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Fran O'Sullivan: NZ Inc Managing Director on the US Business Summit, tariffs · Early Edition with Ryan Bridge

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  Speaker 1: The United States Business Summit is taking place in Auckland
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  Speaker 1: today and boys at timely Trump obviously on his way
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  Speaker 1: in tariff's looming and the US overtaking the Aussies as
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  Speaker 1: our second largest export market worth more than fourteen billion dollars.
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  Speaker 1: Fran O'Sullivan is the US Business Summit co chair. She's
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  Speaker 1: with us this morning. Friend, lovely to have you on
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  Speaker 1: the show.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, thank you.
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  Speaker 1: Tell me what's your pack on this whole tariff business?
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  Speaker 1: Is this a negotiating tactic from Trump? Do you think
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  Speaker 1: he's actually going to go ahead with them in any
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  Speaker 1: know the numbers that they're talking about.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, there will be an element of negotiation about it.
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  Speaker 2: And I think you only have to look to his
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  Speaker 2: pickers Commerce secretary, who is a billionaire, Harold Lutnik, who
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  Speaker 2: was also co chair of his campaign. He has been
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  Speaker 2: on record talking about tariff all the way through the
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  Speaker 2: campaign himself. He's also the boss of brokerage firm Cantor
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  Speaker 2: in the United States, So I mean he is a
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  Speaker 2: man with considerable sway. But what he is also suggested
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  Speaker 2: that there will be an element of negotiation around some
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  Speaker 2: of these and that in fact he is wanting to
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  Speaker 2: get obviously people back into and companies back manufacturing in
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  Speaker 2: the United States. But however, there won't be blanket tariffs
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  Speaker 2: on everything, so punitive language all the rest. But part
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  Speaker 2: of that is, you know, practs the first steps in
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  Speaker 2: a pretty high stakes poker game. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: I saw his comments action in the Wall Street Journal overnight,
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  Speaker 1: and you know he's talking about countries will have to
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  Speaker 1: make concessions. You know, what's correct, What sort of concessions
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  Speaker 1: do we make?
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  Speaker 2: Well, there's probably been a bit of pressure. Well that
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  Speaker 2: may or may not be a priority for the incoming administration.
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  Speaker 2: I mean it's not it wasn't initiated by them. I
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  Speaker 2: think at the moment, you know, we have ponied up
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  Speaker 2: and become much more in tune with the United States,
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  Speaker 2: particularly the Pacific, and I think there'll be an expectation
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  Speaker 2: that we continue to do that. And when you look
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  Speaker 2: at the leverage that's been applied in the past, for
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  Speaker 2: instance by President Trump and Trump one point zero iteration,
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  Speaker 2: I mean at that time he did put considerable pressure
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  Speaker 2: on NATO, for instance, to step up its defense bend.
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  Speaker 2: I think we will come under pressure to do more
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  Speaker 2: of that. But that's happening anyway. The big, big areas
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  Speaker 2: where the government will be wanting to you know, can't
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  Speaker 2: spell out to the administration. And I think some of
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  Speaker 2: this was probably also covered in the conversation that the
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  Speaker 2: Prime Minister had with Donald Trump several days after he
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  Speaker 2: was he became president elect. So you know, there are commonalities,
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  Speaker 2: there are areas where we are working with the United
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  Speaker 2: States strategically, and he will want to keep emphasizing that.
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  Speaker 2: But you know it's going to be interesting. And of course,
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  Speaker 2: of China takes the major hit. That's a major trading
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  Speaker 2: partner of New Zealand, and so if it's a conny
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  Speaker 2: takes a hit, people won't want to pay quite the
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  Speaker 2: same price as they're paying now for New Zealand goods.
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  Speaker 2: So you know, it's the world could get quite a slap,
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  Speaker 2: and that is something that you're seeing, for instance at
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  Speaker 2: the D twenty just in previous days, much more circling
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  Speaker 2: around Jujuenping. He's become a very powerful player as well
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  Speaker 2: in all of this. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Absolutely, and still waiting to see quite how big that
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  Speaker 1: stimulus might be from Beijing as well. Friend, fascinating an
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  Speaker 1: excellent analysis. Has always enjoyed the summit today.
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  Speaker 2: Thank you very much thank you.
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  Speaker 1: Freend O Sullivan who is the New Zealand Business sorry,
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  Speaker 1: the US Business Summit coach. Here that's on in Auckland today.
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