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The Season with Peter Schrager: Chargers OC Kellen Moore · Best of the NFL Podcast Network

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  Speaker 1: The Season with Peter Schreger is a production of the
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  Speaker 1: NFL in partnership with iHeartRadio. What's Up, Everybody, Welcome Back
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  Speaker 1: to the Season with Peter Schreger, a brand new episode.
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  Speaker 1: As we head towards the July fourth weekend, I'm hoping
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  Speaker 1: that a lot of people are off the next few
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  Speaker 1: days and they've got long drives to see friends or
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  Speaker 1: long drives to visit family, and they're just gonna listen
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  Speaker 1: and binge this podcast. So I was debating whether we
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  Speaker 1: do one this week, and I'm like, you know what,
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  Speaker 1: I think that might be the ideal time to do
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  Speaker 1: a podcast heading into the holiday weekend. And we've got
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  Speaker 1: a great guest in Kellen Moore, who's the new offensive
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  Speaker 1: coordinator for the Los Angeles Chargers. I've known Kellen Moore
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  Speaker 1: for many years as a coach, but obviously before then,
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  Speaker 1: he was an NFL player with the Cowboys and the Lions,
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  Speaker 1: and before that he was the quarterback at Boise State,
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  Speaker 1: where he started all his years there and is currently
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  Speaker 1: still still holds the record for most wins as a
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  Speaker 1: quarterback in college football history. Still a young guy in
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  Speaker 1: his early thirties and made a big move whether it
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  Speaker 1: was voluntary or whether it was assumed that this is
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  Speaker 1: what we had. He's no longer in Dallas after being
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  Speaker 1: in Dallas his entire coaching career, and he is now
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  Speaker 1: with the Los Angeles Chargers with Justin Herbert. We're going
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  Speaker 1: to get into a deep conversation with Kellen in a minute.
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  Speaker 1: I just wanted to give a quick preview of what
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  Speaker 1: to look for this weekend, and this is fun. Monday
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  Speaker 1: Night is the party of the year. I will not
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  Speaker 1: be invited. I've never been invited. None of my colleagues
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  Speaker 1: in the media have been invited. But a gentleman named
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  Speaker 1: Michael Rubin, who owns the company Fanatics, throws a massive
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  Speaker 1: banger of a party in Bridgehampton, New York, on the water,
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  Speaker 1: and I would alert everybody now to get ahead of
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  Speaker 1: it now as opposed to on Tuesday morning checking TMZ
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  Speaker 1: and Page six and Doumois and whatever other sites you want.
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  Speaker 1: But this is the party to be at, and I
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  Speaker 1: know several NFL owners will be in attendance. I know
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  Speaker 1: in other years NFL superstars have been there. I gotta
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  Speaker 1: think you're gonna get your Joel Embiid, your jay Z,
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  Speaker 1: Kevin Durant in recent years. Basically Michael has two parties
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  Speaker 1: a year. One of them is the super Bowl party,
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  Speaker 1: which I have been to and I was lucky enough
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  Speaker 1: to be invited to. And I was told straight up,
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  Speaker 1: you will never be invited to the July fourth party.
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  Speaker 1: But the super Bowl party is like where they let
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  Speaker 1: everyone in that you know at least knows Michael or
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  Speaker 1: works with the NFL or fanatics, and I, you know,
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  Speaker 1: it's still a cool party to be at, and it
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  Speaker 1: was amazing this year to go. I basically sat in
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  Speaker 1: the corner talking to Damar Hamlin, Micah Parsons, Jerry Jones,
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  Speaker 1: David Tepper, and you know Rich Eysen, like random, like
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  Speaker 1: you just pick it out of the thing. If you've
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  Speaker 1: seen this guy on TV. Have you seen this person's name?
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  Speaker 1: The headlines they're at the Michael Rubin super Bowl Party.
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  Speaker 1: Then the list like whittles down a lot. And he
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  Speaker 1: was actually on the Barstool podcast part of my take,
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  Speaker 1: and he was explaining it that he only has seventy
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  Speaker 1: five people get invited to this thing, but like it's
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  Speaker 1: the leading influencers, and it's the leading athletes, and it's
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  Speaker 1: the leading owners and sports So I'm curiously who made
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  Speaker 1: the cut this year. I've told Michael in person that
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  Speaker 1: I believe he should stream online on like I don't
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  Speaker 1: know if they have a fanatics dot com, but they
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  Speaker 1: should do an arrival show and have hosts and interview
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  Speaker 1: the people coming in, Like this is a bigger party
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  Speaker 1: than anything at the Oscars. The Oscars. Tom Cruse didn't
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  Speaker 1: even show up to the Oscars this year. Some of
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  Speaker 1: the other bigger stars we're not. I don't know who
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  Speaker 1: the biggest. I guess Colin Ferrell is the biggest A
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  Speaker 1: list star at the Oscars. I would argue that Michael's
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  Speaker 1: party in the Hampton's in the vein of like the
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  Speaker 1: p Diddy White party from years ago, It's going to
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  Speaker 1: have a better guest list. So I'm curiously who got
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  Speaker 1: the cut? Who made the cut, and then we'll see
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  Speaker 1: who and all that, And that's the important stuff you're
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  Speaker 1: listening to in July when it comes to NFL football.
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  Speaker 1: Do we think the other news?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah?
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  Speaker 1: Go on here?
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  Speaker 3: Following up from last week's show, Do we think Victor
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  Speaker 3: Wee Binnana is gonna get an invite?
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  Speaker 1: Ooh? Does Victor go? Does Wemby go?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah?
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  Speaker 2: He was in New York.
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  Speaker 1: He's not anymore, but he could come back. I'm gonna
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  Speaker 1: say no, I'm gonna say Wenby's got to earn those
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  Speaker 1: stripes first. I think we're gonna get EMBIID. I think
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  Speaker 1: we're gonna get hardened. Those guys are like, those guys
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  Speaker 1: are mainstays at all these things, and I think you're
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  Speaker 1: gonna get durant. NFL wise, Michael Parsons has been very
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  Speaker 1: tight with with Michael Rubin. They've been seen out together.
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  Speaker 1: I think that will be a definite. And I'm wondering
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  Speaker 1: if we get the big one. I don't know does
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  Speaker 1: number TV twelve. He's no longer playing, he doesn't have
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  Speaker 1: to be anywhere. He's a single man. From what we know,
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  Speaker 1: is Tom Brady rolling through. We'll see. That's gonna be
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  Speaker 1: the big question for me. Other quick things, the NFLPA
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  Speaker 1: announced a new director. That was a bit of a surprise.
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  Speaker 1: No one saw that coming. They announced their new executive director.
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  Speaker 1: So we'll get into that at another date and we'll
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  Speaker 1: talk about who he is and what he's experiences and
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  Speaker 1: how that all went down. I find it pretty interesting.
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  Speaker 1: And then a much smaller piece of news today in
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  Speaker 1: Tampa Bay. They signed extensions with three of their top
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  Speaker 1: front office people, which I think is interesting. Everyone thinks
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  Speaker 1: the Buccaneers are going to rebuild eventually and this might
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  Speaker 1: be one of those years where that after Brady, I'll go.
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  Speaker 1: They signed big contracts with three different front office executives,
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  Speaker 1: one of them Michael Greenberg known as Greeney around the Leak,
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  Speaker 1: who handles all the salary cap stuff. He's an assistant
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  Speaker 1: general manager. Along with John spy Tech, he's an assistant
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  Speaker 1: general manager. These guys have been there for favorite and
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  Speaker 1: then Jackie Davidson, who came over from the Jets, has
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  Speaker 1: been there for at least five years, and she got
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  Speaker 1: promoted to a new title as well. So very interesting
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  Speaker 1: that the Buccaneers are like, hey, you know what. I
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  Speaker 1: know it was Brady, but we also believe in the
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  Speaker 1: front office we've built. With all that said, we've now
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  Speaker 1: given you our July fourth party preview. And again it's
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  Speaker 1: Monday night, so not July fourth, It's Monday, which is
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  Speaker 1: July third. Keep your eyes on TMZ and the page
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  Speaker 1: six and all that. This is the stuff we live for,
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  Speaker 1: guys fanatics party. We'll see who was in the house,
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  Speaker 1: who made the cut and who didn't, and then other
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  Speaker 1: than that, we'll keep an eye on all the different
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  Speaker 1: adventures from all these players and coaches and owners, all
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  Speaker 1: enjoying their vacations right now because the NFL is shutting
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  Speaker 1: it down for a few weeks before we get to
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  Speaker 1: training camp with no further ado. I'm excited for this one.
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  Speaker 1: Here's Kellen Moore. So excited for our next guest. As
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  Speaker 1: I mentioned in the monologue, covered him as a player
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  Speaker 1: when he was with the Lions, covered him as a
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  Speaker 1: player when he's with the Cowboys. Then of course is
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  Speaker 1: one of the great offensive minds for the Cowboys, and
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  Speaker 1: now he's with the Los Angeles Chargers and he's on
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  Speaker 1: the season with Peter Schriger. Kellen Moore, Welcome to the podcast.
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  Speaker 2: Thanks for having me.
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  Speaker 1: I'm fired up, so excited to have you man, And
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  Speaker 1: it's kind of a cool part of your career right now.
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  Speaker 1: You've left the Nest if you will, You've been in
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  Speaker 1: Dallas all these years and now you're joining the Los
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  Speaker 1: Angeles Chargers. The announcement was made in January or so
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  Speaker 1: tell us what it's been like first six months with
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  Speaker 1: the Chargers and working with Justin Herbert specifically.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, I know, it's been so much fun. I mean, yeah,
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  Speaker 3: we're fortunate. We're in Dallas for eight years, very much
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  Speaker 3: became home, and so all our kids pretty much they
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  Speaker 3: only knew Dallas, and so we loved it.
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  Speaker 2: There, had a ton of fun. Eight years in the NFL.
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  Speaker 3: We know how the cycle of this thing sometimes goes,
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  Speaker 3: and so we're fortunate and it worked out great.
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  Speaker 2: It was awesome.
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  Speaker 3: I was fired up to be able to come down
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  Speaker 3: here to the Chargers to work with Brandon.
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  Speaker 2: We kind of connected last.
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  Speaker 3: Year we did a joint practice with the Dallas Cowboys
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  Speaker 3: and the LA Chargers, and so that was kind of
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  Speaker 3: initial connection there, and so we connected, stayed in contact
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  Speaker 3: like so many people do in this profession, and you know,
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  Speaker 3: it happened fast, but it worked out great, and so
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  Speaker 3: we were fired up to get down here. It was
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  Speaker 3: a fun change of scenery and it's been just a
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  Speaker 3: ton of fun just kind of building this thing from
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  Speaker 3: the ground up with everyone just kind of collaborating and
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  Speaker 3: starting with Justin and the rest of the staff, and
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  Speaker 3: so it's been a ton of fun.
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  Speaker 1: It was fun. I was at the combine in Indianapolis
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  Speaker 1: and you walked by and I recognized your face, of course,
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  Speaker 1: and I knew it was you be all Chargers stuff
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  Speaker 1: on him, like, oh, that's different. Okay, I guess this
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  Speaker 1: is it. And it only feels different for him too.
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  Speaker 1: Is there a big ad justin period? I know, coaches
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  Speaker 1: jump places place, But for someone like you who is
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  Speaker 1: with the Cowboys for the end of your NFL playing
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  Speaker 1: career and then of course all your coaching careers so far,
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  Speaker 1: does it feel like it's a new beginning or does
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  Speaker 1: it feel like, Hey, this is the gig and just
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  Speaker 1: put me wherever I have to be.
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  Speaker 2: It definitely feels new, which is exciting.
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  Speaker 3: When I was in Dallas, I was fortunate I was around,
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  Speaker 3: you know, Jason was the head coach at the time,
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  Speaker 3: and I was fortunate to kind of be able to
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  Speaker 3: transition into the coaching side because of him and Scott,
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  Speaker 3: Lena Hand and those guys who were down there at
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  Speaker 3: the time, and then then to stay through the transition
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  Speaker 3: of Mike and so there's always kind of been an
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  Speaker 3: established situation there, and so you know, it was kind
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  Speaker 3: of a smoother transition, and so this one's been really
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  Speaker 3: exciting just because it's really a you know, Brandon certainly
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  Speaker 3: has runs the defense, and this is kind of a
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  Speaker 3: clean slate on offense, and so it's been a lot
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  Speaker 3: of fun just building it.
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  Speaker 2: You know, taking.
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  Speaker 3: Pieces that were already in place here, things that Justin's
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  Speaker 3: done such a good job with that we want definitely
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  Speaker 3: keep and keep incorporating and don't lose sight on any
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  Speaker 3: of those things.
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  Speaker 2: Bring some Dallas stuff.
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  Speaker 3: And then the third part was just hey, let's go
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  Speaker 3: explore together and let's have fun building this thing.
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  Speaker 1: It's fun because I had Nathaniel Hackett on last week
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  Speaker 1: and it's it's not a similar situation because he's been
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  Speaker 1: with Rogers. And the only thing that I said was, now,
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  Speaker 1: Salah is the defensive head coach, and you've kind of
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  Speaker 1: have the green light. And for years he was with
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  Speaker 1: Marone and then he was of course with Lafleur, who
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  Speaker 1: were offensive coaches. You're similarly in that kind of boat,
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  Speaker 1: which you just referenced that Staley's a defensive mastermind. He's
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  Speaker 1: also a great head coach, but he's not going to
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  Speaker 1: be calling plays over your head or he's not going
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  Speaker 1: to have input on this stuff. This is maybe your
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  Speaker 1: first opportunity where you're the guy to call the plays
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  Speaker 1: around the offense. Without an offensive head coach above you
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  Speaker 1: on the ORG.
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  Speaker 2: Chart, it is a different dynamic.
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  Speaker 3: It is fun just from the standpoint of, you know,
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  Speaker 3: us just building it however we want, you know, it
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  Speaker 3: is fun to kind of do those recap meetings. Brand
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  Speaker 3: and I tend to gravitate to each other towards the
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  Speaker 3: end of the day, just recap, okay, what happened on
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  Speaker 3: each side of the ball, what we meet about, and
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  Speaker 3: those are always really fun conversations. A lot of the
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  Speaker 3: offensive coaches and has rolled their eyes and I'm going
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  Speaker 3: into brands offs because they're like, he might be in
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  Speaker 3: there for fifteen minutes, it might be there for two hours.
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  Speaker 3: We really don't know, you know, And Brandon and I
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  Speaker 3: just kind of start recapping all of a sudden. The
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  Speaker 3: coolest part of it, I think is you get that
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  Speaker 3: perspective of a defensive head coach, you know, and so
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  Speaker 3: when you're talking to him and sharing kind of your
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  Speaker 3: plan or vision, he can spin it from the other
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  Speaker 3: side of you know, just kind of Okay, if we're
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  Speaker 3: on the defensive side, this is how i'd see it,
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  Speaker 3: this is this something you may want to consider, And
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  Speaker 3: so all those conversations been just so much fun.
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  Speaker 1: We have Good Morning Football during the year, and we
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  Speaker 1: do the show five days a week and it's three hours,
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  Speaker 1: and we're always on in the morning, and it's always
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  Speaker 1: talking about the young quarterbacks, and it's like Mahomes, Burrow, Allen,
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  Speaker 1: and I'm always chiming in Herbert Herbert, and it's like,
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  Speaker 1: and Tilly has that big playoff success, and maybe Tilly
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  Speaker 1: has that huge print. He might not be considered the
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  Speaker 1: same way those guys are, But you've had a chance
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  Speaker 1: to watch this young man for a couple of months. Now,
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  Speaker 1: what does he bring to the table, Because I think
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  Speaker 1: there are some throws that he throws at I don't
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  Speaker 1: know if anyone else in the NFL can even attempt.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, no doubt. Justin's been phenomenal.
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  Speaker 3: I think a the person, awesome person, one of the
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  Speaker 3: simplest people I've ever met.
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  Speaker 1: You know this explain that because I kind of know,
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  Speaker 1: but I don't see it day to day.
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  Speaker 3: I just see the one of the simpler people in
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  Speaker 3: the world for his situation and the potential out there
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  Speaker 3: for him as a person off the field.
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  Speaker 2: Very simple person.
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  Speaker 3: I Meanven came in when I got here, I mean,
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  Speaker 3: he just basically did rehab. He'd come in for a
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  Speaker 3: couple hours, do you rehab, you run into him, he'd
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  Speaker 3: head out. Maybe you'd go up to Eugene and you know,
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  Speaker 3: be back in the hometown. And other than that, you know,
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  Speaker 3: he didn't explore a whole lot. And so he's been awesome,
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  Speaker 3: awesome to work with. He's been a ton of fun
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  Speaker 3: just collaborating on this thing. When you step on the field,
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  Speaker 3: certainly you see the physical ability. I laugh, because as
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  Speaker 3: a coach, you teached you know, this is the install
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  Speaker 3: this is the progression. Here's some alerts, you know if
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  Speaker 3: you get these certain looks. And then he just goes
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  Speaker 3: out there and rips a throw and you just.
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  Speaker 2: Kind of look at the back of TBS and say, hey,
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  Speaker 2: first of all, don't try that.
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  Speaker 3: Second of all, I would have never considered throwing that,
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  Speaker 3: but maybe we should start considering that.
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  Speaker 2: So it's pretty awesome.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, And I guess with your offense with him, Like
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  Speaker 1: you guys put up such huge numbers in Dallas for years,
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  Speaker 1: and there was a vertical game and there's a downfield game.
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  Speaker 1: And if you read the Chargers blogs, you listen to
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  Speaker 1: the Chargers podcast, the assumption is like, all right, it's
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  Speaker 1: gonna be bombs away Air Coriel style here with Kellen
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  Speaker 1: and Justin. Just to sneak peek a little bit, like,
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  Speaker 1: what do you hope to unleash in this offense out
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  Speaker 1: of this quarterback who obviously has that canon arm and
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  Speaker 1: the smarts to know when to use it and when
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  Speaker 1: not to.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I think, you know, certainly everyone wants us to
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  Speaker 3: throw it deep every place. So we'll see if that works,
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  Speaker 3: you know, we'll test it out.
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  Speaker 2: But you know, I think what.
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  Speaker 3: It allows us to do is, you know, Justin's such
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  Speaker 3: a smart decision maker. It allows you to really call
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  Speaker 3: it in an aggressive manner, and he does such a
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  Speaker 3: great job. We always say, aggressively take what they give us, Like,
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  Speaker 3: if they give us these shots, they give us something vertical.
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  Speaker 3: We got these skill players that we feel really really
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  Speaker 3: good about. Just take him, just go for it, you know,
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  Speaker 3: and if not, take the completion, take the check down.
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  Speaker 3: Austin is going to catch a check down and get
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  Speaker 3: you another first down, and then we'll call another one.
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  Speaker 3: And so I think the mentality of that has been
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  Speaker 3: the way we've been kind of training at this certain
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  Speaker 3: entire offseason and certainly. I think we got the guys
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  Speaker 3: to be able to execute those things.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I I can hear the excitement in everybodys You
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  Speaker 1: mentioned him being just a simple dude. Like I remember
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  Speaker 1: during the pre draft build up, he goes on he
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  Speaker 1: wins Rose Bowl MVP when Senior Bowl MVP shows up
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  Speaker 1: and like blows everyone away at the combine, competes at
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  Speaker 1: the combine, and the talk was like literally it was
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  Speaker 1: and it was real was is he vocal enough? And
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  Speaker 1: I talked to Staley and he's like vocal enough, Like
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  Speaker 1: he's the leader, He's the outfit in our in our building,
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  Speaker 1: and that that when you're a starter and you're a
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  Speaker 1: husman guy and all this stuff that like you're talking about,
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  Speaker 1: it's hard not to be a leader in the building,
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  Speaker 1: and this guy is that leader. It's just maybe we
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  Speaker 1: don't see it on commercials or on Instagram every day.
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  Speaker 1: Would you agree that's kind of the case.
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  Speaker 2: One hundred percent.
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  Speaker 3: I think, like anyone you grow into leadership, you know,
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  Speaker 3: it gets it gets bigger and bigger, better and better.
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  Speaker 3: However you want to view it each and every year.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, this is fourth year, you know, and based
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  Speaker 3: off everything I've seen experience with and around him. You know,
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  Speaker 3: this year, he's been phenomenal. He's had presence, he's he's
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  Speaker 3: been very open and willing to stand up in front
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  Speaker 3: of the entire room on offense, share his perspective, give
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  Speaker 3: give feedback to players. When he steps on the field,
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  Speaker 3: there's there's no real question who's who's the alpha, who's
• 14:33
  Speaker 3: the leader of this thing? He takes command, takes charge,
• 14:36
  Speaker 3: and it's been really fun to see.
• 14:38
  Speaker 1: They played the Raiders on a Thursday night two years
• 14:40
  Speaker 1: ago and it was the first time Akman and Buck
• 14:42
  Speaker 1: were doing a Chargers game with Herbert and he made
• 14:45
  Speaker 1: a pass across his body and Aikman just like is like,
• 14:47
  Speaker 1: oh my god, he just like laws it. And I'm like,
• 14:51
  Speaker 1: that's what he has the capability of. And then you
• 14:53
  Speaker 1: add in this what I would call just what seems
• 14:56
  Speaker 1: like a professional football team, but also potentially an NBA
• 15:01
  Speaker 1: starting five at receiver with the height that you guys have,
• 15:03
  Speaker 1: it's a really cool mix. Then you add in Quentin Johnson,
• 15:06
  Speaker 1: who a big dude. You got to be excited to
• 15:08
  Speaker 1: have all these tools and these weapons here with this offense.
• 15:11
  Speaker 3: Yeah, com and versatility on the offense, which I think
• 15:13
  Speaker 3: we're really really excited about, you know, use guys in
• 15:15
  Speaker 3: different positions, align them in different ways, and utilize all that.
• 15:19
  Speaker 3: Certainly we'd like to say, like, you know, we got
• 15:22
  Speaker 3: so much height on this team, we're gonna be throwing
• 15:24
  Speaker 3: in a different jet stream, you know, like these guys.
• 15:27
  Speaker 3: You know, we got Q and Keenan and Mike and
• 15:30
  Speaker 3: Gerald and you know, sneak Austin in there from the backfield,
• 15:33
  Speaker 3: and yeah, all these other guys that are our depth guys,
• 15:36
  Speaker 3: and so it's gonna be a lot of fun.
• 15:38
  Speaker 1: And then a great offensive line. We know that Slater
• 15:40
  Speaker 1: goes down and then this kid Seller shows up last year,
• 15:43
  Speaker 1: and then obviously with the rookies, ion like their offensive
• 15:45
  Speaker 1: line was awesome last year despite major injuries.
• 15:48
  Speaker 2: One of my favorite things was the when I first
• 15:51
  Speaker 2: got here.
• 15:51
  Speaker 3: We spent our first week and because the offensive staff
• 15:54
  Speaker 3: was pretty much the same other than the quarterback coach
• 15:56
  Speaker 3: Doug Nasmeyer came from Dallas, it was the same staff
• 15:59
  Speaker 3: that've been here last year. So the first week I
• 16:01
  Speaker 3: basically just sat there and listened to everyone, and so
• 16:04
  Speaker 3: it was a really cool They basically went through the
• 16:05
  Speaker 3: roster and one gave their perspective on every player that
• 16:09
  Speaker 3: was currently on our roster. When we got to the
• 16:11
  Speaker 3: offensive line, it was so much fun to just to
• 16:13
  Speaker 3: hear the journey that all these guys took and you
• 16:16
  Speaker 3: know these uh you know Jamari pop in there and
• 16:19
  Speaker 3: you know, just.
• 16:20
  Speaker 1: Was he six, a sixth round pick and played left
• 16:22
  Speaker 1: tacker in the NFL. Yeah, the rookie, Like that's incredible.
• 16:25
  Speaker 3: And just like from the first snap, just like, okay,
• 16:27
  Speaker 3: I'll take over this left tackle spot. That's nothing big
• 16:29
  Speaker 3: for me. I played at Georgia. I played four years
• 16:31
  Speaker 3: at Georgia. Nothing's that big to me. But it's a
• 16:34
  Speaker 3: really cool group. You know, it's a really young group
• 16:36
  Speaker 3: that's developing and kind of coming together. And then you
• 16:38
  Speaker 3: got Corey in the middle kind of as that veteran
• 16:40
  Speaker 3: anchor center, and so I think it's like this perfect
• 16:43
  Speaker 3: blend for those guys.
• 16:44
  Speaker 1: I love it. Your story is so cool. Take us
• 16:48
  Speaker 1: back to Prosser, Washington. What that town is? How many
• 16:51
  Speaker 1: people and how in the world you made it out
• 16:54
  Speaker 1: of there to be, you know, an NFL offensive coordinator
• 16:57
  Speaker 1: and obviously seem to be a head coach.
• 16:59
  Speaker 3: Yeah, So we were just there this past weeks. Make
• 17:02
  Speaker 3: our rounds through Prosser, Washington. If anyone knows that, you
• 17:05
  Speaker 3: shouldn't he shouldn't know where that is. But it's a
• 17:09
  Speaker 3: town of six thousand people southeastern Washington. It's not the
• 17:12
  Speaker 3: rainy Seattle. It's the desert on the east side. No
• 17:15
  Speaker 3: one knows that. Half the people in the world don't
• 17:17
  Speaker 3: know there's a desert.
• 17:17
  Speaker 1: I did not know there was a desert part of Washington.
• 17:20
  Speaker 1: This is a mission, all right.
• 17:21
  Speaker 3: It's all agriculture and all that good stuff. But small
• 17:24
  Speaker 3: little town. My dad was our high school coach, so
• 17:27
  Speaker 3: he was the head football coach for for really, you know,
• 17:30
  Speaker 3: forever until we got to college. But uh, it kind
• 17:33
  Speaker 3: of had that Friday night lights feel to it, you know,
• 17:35
  Speaker 3: like that's that's how I grew up. I grew up
• 17:37
  Speaker 3: wanting to be a Prosper Mustang all honestly, I didn't
• 17:39
  Speaker 3: really you know, college or something. Yeah, you'd love to
• 17:41
  Speaker 3: do that, you'd love to do the NFL, but like
• 17:43
  Speaker 3: Prosper Mustangs, Like that's the best thing ever. Those are
• 17:45
  Speaker 3: all my idols growing up, you know, and.
• 17:47
  Speaker 1: So made me a couple of legends from the program
• 17:49
  Speaker 1: from before you. I love this stuff.
• 17:51
  Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, well, I'm number eleven because a Dan
• 17:53
  Speaker 3: Marshatt he was, he was number eleven.
• 17:55
  Speaker 2: He's a receiver.
• 17:56
  Speaker 3: I was getting right into the right into the youth
• 17:58
  Speaker 3: football stage. And I was like, Dan's my guy.
• 18:00
  Speaker 1: I want to forget Randy Moss, forget Chris Carter, forget
• 18:05
  Speaker 1: any of the sea. That's my guy.
• 18:06
  Speaker 2: Marsha Yep, yep, damn.
• 18:09
  Speaker 3: So, uh, you know there's all these quarterbacks Tyler Thomas
• 18:12
  Speaker 3: who there weren't a ton of guys who ever like
• 18:15
  Speaker 3: went to like Division one.
• 18:16
  Speaker 2: There was only a couple of us. Tyler Thomas ended
• 18:18
  Speaker 2: up going.
• 18:18
  Speaker 3: To Oregon State. He was a quarterback. Man, I can
• 18:22
  Speaker 3: go on and on, can I give you every single
• 18:24
  Speaker 3: quarterback from But.
• 18:24
  Speaker 1: I love that. And this is a town that I've
• 18:27
  Speaker 1: I've read up on it. Two stoplights right, two traffic lights?
• 18:29
  Speaker 2: Yeah, oh yeah, we upgrade. We got three now three?
• 18:32
  Speaker 1: Okay? Are we talking like an outback? And Applebee's is
• 18:35
  Speaker 1: that even there? Or is it like the general store?
• 18:37
  Speaker 2: No?
• 18:37
  Speaker 3: No, McDonald's, KFC, Taco Bell. It's a it's a hybrid,
• 18:41
  Speaker 3: which is unique.
• 18:43
  Speaker 2: Starbucks.
• 18:44
  Speaker 1: Uh, the Bucks made it there right from stars.
• 18:47
  Speaker 3: Yeah, you gotta have a Starbucks. It's kind of on
• 18:49
  Speaker 3: your way from one place to the other. They snuck
• 18:51
  Speaker 3: a Starbucks in there, but other than that, a couple
• 18:53
  Speaker 3: of local restaurants and that's about it.
• 18:55
  Speaker 1: And I know you would go to these Boise State
• 18:58
  Speaker 1: youth football camps, right, is that part of your childhood?
• 19:00
  Speaker 1: And I guess your father would bring you to the
• 19:04
  Speaker 1: blue field. Like where did that Boise stay thing come from?
• 19:07
  Speaker 3: Yeah, so when I was really young, my dad, uh
• 19:10
  Speaker 3: so he was our obviously our head football coach.
• 19:12
  Speaker 2: They would go to like a team football camp.
• 19:14
  Speaker 3: So they'd bring the entire high school team to these
• 19:15
  Speaker 3: camps and they spend a week there and early it
• 19:18
  Speaker 3: was always at Boise, so they'd always go there. Uh
• 19:21
  Speaker 3: So we always kind of have this uh you know,
• 19:23
  Speaker 3: fondness of Boise. I remember it as a child child.
• 19:26
  Speaker 3: And so as a high school coach's kid, you kind
• 19:29
  Speaker 3: of what your spring breaks are and what your summers
• 19:31
  Speaker 3: are is pretty much hopping around to college's. Uh spring
• 19:34
  Speaker 3: break was usually you know, going to some college practices
• 19:36
  Speaker 3: and just got you know, rolling with all these high
• 19:38
  Speaker 3: school coaches that your dad is around. And so that
• 19:41
  Speaker 3: was my childhood that that was very much normalized football
• 19:44
  Speaker 3: for me and Uh, you know, that's that's what I did.
• 19:47
  Speaker 1: When you got recruited to Boise State. Is this because
• 19:50
  Speaker 1: I don't have the timeline in front of me. So
• 19:52
  Speaker 1: everyone remembers the Fiesta Ball. It's Adrian Peterson and Oklahoma
• 19:55
  Speaker 1: and Jared Zabranski and Ian Johnson and Boise knockoff. Were
• 19:59
  Speaker 1: you on that team? Were you being recruited to be
• 20:01
  Speaker 1: on that team? I know you came after Zabranski, so
• 20:03
  Speaker 1: I'm not sure if you were like a red shirt
• 20:05
  Speaker 1: or your back up or what.
• 20:06
  Speaker 2: No.
• 20:06
  Speaker 3: So I'm a senior in high school. I'm at the game.
• 20:09
  Speaker 3: I'm down in that end zone.
• 20:10
  Speaker 2: Yep.
• 20:11
  Speaker 3: I went to the game. I was already committed to
• 20:12
  Speaker 3: Boise so I was. I was all wrapped up and
• 20:16
  Speaker 3: ready to go. And yeah, I was at the game.
• 20:19
  Speaker 3: It was awesome.
• 20:20
  Speaker 1: Saw the proposal at the end that was in the
• 20:22
  Speaker 1: end zone you were in or.
• 20:23
  Speaker 2: No, yep, I was right down that end zone. Yep.
• 20:25
  Speaker 1: So you get there and then Boise he becomes one
• 20:30
  Speaker 1: of the primitive programs in the country. You guys would
• 20:32
  Speaker 1: roll off the wins for the listeners. You are the
• 20:35
  Speaker 1: all time leader and wins as a quarterback, which is
• 20:38
  Speaker 1: an amazing feat and it comes up anytime a young
• 20:40
  Speaker 1: quarterback like Desmon Rider came out. I think he's third maybe,
• 20:43
  Speaker 1: And I was mentioned literally every time Ridder had anything
• 20:46
  Speaker 1: going on. Every time tell you somebo the Falcons, your
• 20:49
  Speaker 1: experience in Boise, Idaho and playing for for that team,
• 20:53
  Speaker 1: what would say your biggest takeaway was from that whole
• 20:55
  Speaker 1: entire four year span.
• 20:57
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it was just this utopia of a culture. Chris
• 21:01
  Speaker 3: Pierce is the absolute best. He has this perfect blend
• 21:05
  Speaker 3: of you know, he spends so much time, I think
• 21:08
  Speaker 3: on the culture and the environment. He really calls it
• 21:11
  Speaker 3: an environment because everyone needs the word culture, but just
• 21:14
  Speaker 3: just building this environment that allows everyone to kind of blossom.
• 21:17
  Speaker 3: And so I always remember two things there, one being
• 21:21
  Speaker 3: you know, how much time he spent on building the program,
• 21:24
  Speaker 3: building the right kind of people. The you know, every Friday,
• 21:28
  Speaker 3: you know, we'd play on Saturdays, obviously, and every Friday night,
• 21:30
  Speaker 3: you know, you have that team meeting that everyone's supposed
• 21:32
  Speaker 3: to get all jacked up and fired up for a
• 21:34
  Speaker 3: football game on you know, right, and you're all college kids,
• 21:37
  Speaker 3: and we'd spend the whole time and he's talking about life,
• 21:39
  Speaker 3: you know, like that's what the whole means about something
• 21:41
  Speaker 3: different about life. It was called Bronco Magic and I
• 21:44
  Speaker 3: still have the sheets of paper, and it was like,
• 21:46
  Speaker 3: you know, it was one of the coolest things that
• 21:48
  Speaker 3: I thought brought perspective.
• 21:49
  Speaker 1: So Harry got this huge game, huge game against the
• 21:52
  Speaker 1: Vada coming up, and you've got the two ranked teams.
• 21:54
  Speaker 1: Give me on national TV, and he's given you life
• 21:56
  Speaker 1: lessons the night before game.
• 21:57
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, some poem about life. And it was awesome.
• 22:03
  Speaker 3: It was absolutely awesome. It was also a unique team
• 22:06
  Speaker 3: because as most people probably no Boise, Idaho doesn't exactly
• 22:09
  Speaker 3: have twenty Division one players rolling around, you know, the state,
• 22:12
  Speaker 3: and so it was this super diverse team. I mean,
• 22:15
  Speaker 3: we had people from all across the country, all across
• 22:18
  Speaker 3: the world.
• 22:18
  Speaker 2: We had guys from.
• 22:19
  Speaker 3: Netherlands, Canada, Florida, New Jersey, California.
• 22:23
  Speaker 2: You know. I was kind of part of.
• 22:24
  Speaker 3: The little small Northwest crew, and so you have this
• 22:28
  Speaker 3: huge diversity of this team, and so it's a really
• 22:30
  Speaker 3: cool melting pot of just bringing all these guys together.
• 22:32
  Speaker 3: And I think that's one of the things that I
• 22:33
  Speaker 3: always we were talking about as a team as an
• 22:36
  Speaker 3: offense right before we broke about how this football thing
• 22:40
  Speaker 3: brings us to people we never connect with them any
• 22:43
  Speaker 3: other way. And that's one of the coolest things, you know,
• 22:45
  Speaker 3: Like even with the Chargers right now, like the guys
• 22:47
  Speaker 3: that you get to meet, it's like I would have
• 22:49
  Speaker 3: never met this person if I wasn't a part of
• 22:51
  Speaker 3: this cool NFL journey or college football journey, whatever it
• 22:54
  Speaker 3: may be.
• 22:54
  Speaker 2: And so that's what's really fun.
• 22:56
  Speaker 1: It's awesome. I always say that, you know, there's all
• 22:59
  Speaker 1: these issues in the country, and there's divide and division,
• 23:01
  Speaker 1: and that's fine. It exists, it's going to exist. Kind
• 23:04
  Speaker 1: of go in that locker room and you see that
• 23:06
  Speaker 1: they're like there's almost like a glimmer of hope, Like,
• 23:08
  Speaker 1: all right, if that guy can gel with that guy
• 23:10
  Speaker 1: and they could put it all together despite their difference
• 23:13
  Speaker 1: in backgrounds, maybe there's a chance, you know, like and
• 23:15
  Speaker 1: I don't know if that's too pie in the sky,
• 23:17
  Speaker 1: but I think that's what.
• 23:17
  Speaker 2: You're getting at No, we certainly feel that way.
• 23:20
  Speaker 1: All right, left handed quarterback obviously at Boise was that
• 23:25
  Speaker 1: held against you think as you entered the NFL draft
• 23:27
  Speaker 1: as that thing kind of faded away. I think at
• 23:30
  Speaker 1: one point the last couple year before two of there
• 23:32
  Speaker 1: were no left handed quarterbacks.
• 23:34
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 23:35
  Speaker 1: It reminds me of a question, you know, it's like
• 23:36
  Speaker 1: a ridiculous question, like, so you know, what's it like
• 23:39
  Speaker 1: being a left handed quip? But well, I've always been
• 23:40
  Speaker 1: a left handed quarterback obviously.
• 23:42
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 23:43
  Speaker 1: But there were you know, Steve Young, Michael Vick, all
• 23:45
  Speaker 1: those guys probably when you were growing up, and then
• 23:47
  Speaker 1: it kind of faded away.
• 23:49
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, no, it's it's definitely. I think a lot
• 23:51
  Speaker 3: of people got smarter. They went to baseball. You know,
• 23:53
  Speaker 3: you're a left the ls or stuff, spably go play
• 23:54
  Speaker 3: that sport instead. But no, yeah, it's certainly something that
• 23:59
  Speaker 3: I think is a unique dynamic. To be honest, I
• 24:01
  Speaker 3: think there was some feedback going into the NFL that like, hey,
• 24:04
  Speaker 3: if our starter is not a lefty, like we really
• 24:06
  Speaker 3: don't want to have a lefty behind him, you know.
• 24:08
  Speaker 3: And now the game was a lot more under center.
• 24:10
  Speaker 3: The game has become a lot more of a shotgun game,
• 24:12
  Speaker 3: and so it's I think there's more flexibility and it's
• 24:15
  Speaker 3: an easier transition. But uh yeah, when I got in
• 24:18
  Speaker 3: the league, I think there are six or seven lefties.
• 24:21
  Speaker 1: Let's go through them, because I mean it was probably you.
• 24:23
  Speaker 1: And then I'm thinking like Tyler fig Pin or Palco,
• 24:26
  Speaker 1: which one of those one of those things?
• 24:27
  Speaker 3: Left Canfield from Oregon State Sean, Yeah, Sean Canfield, Michael Vick,
• 24:35
  Speaker 3: Tim Tebow, Matt Lionert, Pat White might have been you know,
• 24:41
  Speaker 3: had actually coaches with us.
• 24:43
  Speaker 2: So we got a couple of lefties on the staff.
• 24:44
  Speaker 1: Yeah that's cool.
• 24:45
  Speaker 3: We're fire if we got to keep the lefties together.
• 24:48
  Speaker 3: But uh, there's one or two more. But at one
• 24:51
  Speaker 3: point it was a little bit more normal and lo
• 24:53
  Speaker 3: and behold. Uh we went through a point where I
• 24:55
  Speaker 3: think there's a couple of years, two or three years
• 24:57
  Speaker 3: where we have no lefties.
• 24:59
  Speaker 2: Finally two came and saved the day. So hopefully we
• 25:01
  Speaker 2: get a couple more.
• 25:03
  Speaker 1: Uh yeah, the way that the world moves whatever. So
• 25:05
  Speaker 1: the Dolphin job becomes open after they let go Brian Floora.
• 25:08
  Speaker 1: Do you interviewed for that job? Do you come in
• 25:10
  Speaker 1: with like a PowerPoint deck saying like I am the
• 25:12
  Speaker 1: lefty quarterback guy, Like what are we doing here? I
• 25:15
  Speaker 1: know the job especially goes to Mike McDaniel and it's
• 25:17
  Speaker 1: all going to work out for everyone. But yeah, you
• 25:19
  Speaker 1: gotta think that was your pitch right. Yeah.
• 25:21
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm a lefty. He's a lefty. You know, I'm
• 25:23
  Speaker 2: the one guy I can teach him.
• 25:25
  Speaker 1: I can feel it.
• 25:25
  Speaker 2: This is it.
• 25:27
  Speaker 1: It is interesting though that, like you said, the baseball stuff,
• 25:30
  Speaker 1: and you know, we talk about specialization in sports, and
• 25:34
  Speaker 1: now youths are told, like, you pick this one sport.
• 25:38
  Speaker 1: I've heard you speak on it before. You don't believe
• 25:39
  Speaker 1: in that, right, play all sports.
• 25:41
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm a small town kid.
• 25:43
  Speaker 2: We played every sport. We grew up together. It's the
• 25:46
  Speaker 2: same pack of kids. We went from football to basketball
• 25:49
  Speaker 2: to baseball.
• 25:49
  Speaker 3: At one point, I eventually kind of, you know, didn't
• 25:52
  Speaker 3: do baseball by stuck with football and basketball the way
• 25:54
  Speaker 3: to the end.
• 25:54
  Speaker 2: And so I think it's huge. I think it's so important.
• 25:58
  Speaker 3: I think there's too many examples across our league, across
• 26:00
  Speaker 3: other leagues of guys who played a lot of different
• 26:03
  Speaker 3: things and all those skills kind of translate to something
• 26:05
  Speaker 3: in the.
• 26:05
  Speaker 1: End it works out. One of my favorite men in
• 26:09
  Speaker 1: the NFL, and I know a mentor of yours, is
• 26:10
  Speaker 1: Jim Caldwell. When you were in Detroit, you obviously were
• 26:14
  Speaker 1: under his guys, and he speaks with such a I
• 26:18
  Speaker 1: don't reverence Like I don't even know how to say it.
• 26:21
  Speaker 1: When Jim talks, like everyone listens and he doesn't speak
• 26:23
  Speaker 1: off and he's not yelling, he's not I guess my
• 26:26
  Speaker 1: question is just the Jim Caldwell experience for those who
• 26:28
  Speaker 1: don't know, Like when you play in that offense on
• 26:30
  Speaker 1: that team with him as a head coach, that soothing voice,
• 26:33
  Speaker 1: and yet those life lessons he always gives.
• 26:36
  Speaker 3: Yeah, it was such a cool experience for me because
• 26:39
  Speaker 3: being in the NFL, you think college football NFL like
• 26:42
  Speaker 3: they got They're so different, right, and so you're fortunate
• 26:44
  Speaker 3: to be around this Chris Peterson experience which is second
• 26:47
  Speaker 3: to none. And then you meet Jim in the NFL.
• 26:50
  Speaker 3: And the first time I met him, spent fifteen minutes
• 26:53
  Speaker 3: with him. He knew my name, he knew everything about me.
• 26:55
  Speaker 3: I'm a third string QB, barely hanging out on, hanging
• 26:58
  Speaker 3: on like he has no reason to even know who
• 26:59
  Speaker 3: I am, Like, you know, like I should be the
• 27:01
  Speaker 3: one to introducing myself. He spends fifteen minutes just talking
• 27:04
  Speaker 3: about life, talking about you know, family and all that,
• 27:06
  Speaker 3: so that has nothing to do with football. Knows everything
• 27:08
  Speaker 3: about you, like incredible, And then you get to the
• 27:11
  Speaker 3: point of him just being the leader and the coach.
• 27:13
  Speaker 3: I thought it was really cool for me because at
• 27:16
  Speaker 3: that point I really felt confident that, like, I want
• 27:18
  Speaker 3: to get into coaching, that's kind of the.
• 27:20
  Speaker 2: Part I want to take.
• 27:21
  Speaker 3: At that point, Yeah, I think college was kind of confirmation.
• 27:23
  Speaker 3: But then when you're in the NFL, you know, it's like, Okay,
• 27:27
  Speaker 3: that's a different experience in college football, and can you
• 27:29
  Speaker 3: really do it in a certain way, you know, or
• 27:32
  Speaker 3: does everyone just you know, college and NFL there they're
• 27:34
  Speaker 3: just different beasts and he can't do it that way.
• 27:37
  Speaker 3: His presence and his ability to kind of in a
• 27:39
  Speaker 3: more mild manner, have such command and presence in an
• 27:43
  Speaker 3: NFL locker room on an NFL field. It was really
• 27:46
  Speaker 3: awesome for me to see that, because, you know, I
• 27:48
  Speaker 3: felt like I was a little bit more maybe that
• 27:50
  Speaker 3: personality trait, you know, as far as more of a
• 27:52
  Speaker 3: mild like I'm not a you know, yeller screamer all
• 27:55
  Speaker 3: the time, like you know, but like Jim just had
• 27:57
  Speaker 3: that perfect balance of like he picked and choose his
• 28:00
  Speaker 3: words really wisely, and when he talked, everyone listens, you know,
• 28:04
  Speaker 3: and it was incredible to be a part of it.
• 28:06
  Speaker 1: Was there one piece of advice that you've held onto
• 28:08
  Speaker 1: or one line or one statement or one quote that
• 28:11
  Speaker 1: you kind of brought with you along the way. I
• 28:12
  Speaker 1: hate to put you on the spot.
• 28:14
  Speaker 2: That's a great question.
• 28:16
  Speaker 3: There's so many, you know, or Loski and so you know,
• 28:19
  Speaker 3: when I was there as Matthew, Dan and myself, I
• 28:22
  Speaker 3: just remember these team meetings and I just remember all
• 28:26
  Speaker 3: the informations.
• 28:27
  Speaker 2: I couldn't keep up. You know, I'm sitting there trying
• 28:29
  Speaker 2: to write all these notes of.
• 28:30
  Speaker 3: All these you know, he always called it the charge
• 28:32
  Speaker 3: in the season, and every like Wednesday could have some
• 28:34
  Speaker 3: sort of like piece and it would be something. I'm
• 28:37
  Speaker 3: just sitting there trying to like write these notes quick
• 28:39
  Speaker 3: as possible. Now I'm looking over at Dan, like what
• 28:40
  Speaker 3: did you get? You can catch like I'm trying to
• 28:43
  Speaker 3: piece this whole thing together because I want all this information.
• 28:46
  Speaker 3: But he had a really cool piece. He had a
• 28:48
  Speaker 3: high cost for low living. It was a piece that
• 28:50
  Speaker 3: he utilized. I'm sure a lot of people have heard
• 28:52
  Speaker 3: about it. Just as far as the off the field stuff,
• 28:55
  Speaker 3: the players, you know, have to be aware of in
• 28:57
  Speaker 3: the NFL that there's a high cost for low living
• 28:59
  Speaker 3: and the things that we do off the field that
• 29:01
  Speaker 3: create headlines and can have huge impacts on your career.
• 29:04
  Speaker 3: There's a high cost for those and so he tried
• 29:06
  Speaker 3: to educate everyone in the way that Jim does, which
• 29:08
  Speaker 3: is incredible, just educating those guys on something. Some things
• 29:11
  Speaker 3: are just you know, you got to make smart decisions.
• 29:13
  Speaker 3: We understand right and wrong. There's others that are you know, hey,
• 29:16
  Speaker 3: these are tricky situations. Social media has some really tricky things,
• 29:18
  Speaker 3: and so he tried to educate guys on that, and
• 29:20
  Speaker 3: I thought it was incredible.
• 29:25
  Speaker 1: Your favorite Matthew Stafford throw while you were in Detroit?
• 29:28
  Speaker 1: Is there a game a moment where you can go
• 29:30
  Speaker 1: back and say you're standing on the sidelines, either you're
• 29:33
  Speaker 1: dressed or or not, and you're just like, holy moly,
• 29:35
  Speaker 1: what was that? Because I, as I often say when
• 29:37
  Speaker 1: I interviewed Code, it's like I was a sideline reporter
• 29:40
  Speaker 1: and I was not on the A crew. So I
• 29:41
  Speaker 1: got a lot of Lions games under my belt. I
• 29:43
  Speaker 1: was very there's a lot of Hey, what's up to
• 29:45
  Speaker 1: Sam Martin going on on the sidelines there? So is
• 29:49
  Speaker 1: there a Stafford throw that sticks out? There's one that
• 29:51
  Speaker 1: I'll never forget that. Nickveigh and I still like are
• 29:54
  Speaker 1: giddy over that. When they played Washington and you guys
• 29:57
  Speaker 1: were Detroit. Obviously he threw on in a game winner
• 29:59
  Speaker 1: to Ankwon Bolden. That was just insane, that like, how
• 30:01
  Speaker 1: does he pull it out? But you saw it every
• 30:03
  Speaker 1: game and something that comes to mind just how amazing
• 30:05
  Speaker 1: that arm talent.
• 30:07
  Speaker 3: There are a lot, and I'll give you two. The
• 30:10
  Speaker 3: first one is against the Bengals. I think this is
• 30:14
  Speaker 3: two thousand and thirteen, I'm gonna guess. So it was
• 30:18
  Speaker 3: a half rolls like a sprint out to the right.
• 30:20
  Speaker 3: As we're rolling out and we're just gonna run a
• 30:23
  Speaker 3: double move to Calvin Johnson and he's gonna run a
• 30:25
  Speaker 3: little corner post and we're gonna kind of try and
• 30:28
  Speaker 3: roll out to the right and then throw back to
• 30:29
  Speaker 3: the left. And first of all, to throw is tremendous, Right,
• 30:33
  Speaker 3: he just flicks this thing. He's rolling out to his
• 30:35
  Speaker 3: right and he's throwing it to his left and he's
• 30:37
  Speaker 3: just flicking this thing fifty sixty yards And as you're
• 30:40
  Speaker 3: looking down the field, you're like, that guy doesn't really
• 30:42
  Speaker 3: look open.
• 30:43
  Speaker 2: You know, I'm on the sideline I'm just the backup
• 30:44
  Speaker 2: guy hanging out. It doesn't really look open.
• 30:46
  Speaker 3: It's about three or four Bengals jerseys down there, you know,
• 30:50
  Speaker 3: George I Loka a Boise State Bronco being one of
• 30:53
  Speaker 3: them down there, and he just throws this sucker throws
• 30:56
  Speaker 3: up in the air and you just see Calvin just
• 30:57
  Speaker 3: run right through all these people go up, leap it,
• 31:00
  Speaker 3: grab this ball. I remember talking to George after the game.
• 31:03
  Speaker 3: He's like, I don't know what we can do. I
• 31:05
  Speaker 3: can't stop this guy. And it was a moment of
• 31:08
  Speaker 3: like sometimes like you know what, it's players, not plays,
• 31:10
  Speaker 3: you know, like those two.
• 31:12
  Speaker 1: Guys are super human at what they're doing. It's fun
• 31:14
  Speaker 1: to watch.
• 31:15
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, no doubt.
• 31:16
  Speaker 1: What was the other one?
• 31:17
  Speaker 3: And then the second one I would think of is
• 31:19
  Speaker 3: we played in London in twenty fourteen.
• 31:22
  Speaker 2: Golden tates on the outside.
• 31:23
  Speaker 3: We just ran like three verts, it's like third and forever,
• 31:27
  Speaker 3: and he rips a ball down the sideline.
• 31:30
  Speaker 2: He kind of drops back, it's a little bit of depth.
• 31:32
  Speaker 3: He steps up in the pocketing and just rips this
• 31:34
  Speaker 3: ball down the right sidelines to Golden. I mean, it's
• 31:38
  Speaker 3: gotta be fifty yards frozen rope. I don't think the
• 31:40
  Speaker 3: ball is more than ten twelve feet off the ground
• 31:41
  Speaker 3: the entire time, just rips it right between these cover two,
• 31:44
  Speaker 3: safety and corner. I don't think anyone even considered he'd
• 31:47
  Speaker 3: actually throw that in that situation, and he just rips
• 31:49
  Speaker 3: this thing right in the end zone.
• 31:51
  Speaker 2: It was incredible.
• 31:52
  Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, So then you finish your time with Detroit,
• 31:56
  Speaker 1: you go to Dallas. Scott Lenihan was there, and I
• 31:59
  Speaker 1: imagine that's one of the reasons why it was a
• 32:01
  Speaker 1: natural thing. I don't have it in front of me.
• 32:03
  Speaker 1: I know that Romo was there obviously, and then the
• 32:05
  Speaker 1: year Romo got hurt and Dak goes in, you were
• 32:08
  Speaker 1: hurt also that summer, if I'm not mistaken. So it's
• 32:11
  Speaker 1: like this like sliding doors moment, where like who knows
• 32:13
  Speaker 1: if you had had your opportunity do you do? Do
• 32:15
  Speaker 1: you ever lose sleep on that and say, hey, you know,
• 32:17
  Speaker 1: the starter goes down, but I too, the backup was injured.
• 32:20
  Speaker 1: So then Dak Prescott gets a chance to show a
• 32:22
  Speaker 1: case with skills. How did you cope with that as
• 32:24
  Speaker 1: a player at the time.
• 32:26
  Speaker 3: I don't lose sleep now because I think everything happens
• 32:28
  Speaker 3: for a reason, and it kind of led me to
• 32:30
  Speaker 3: this coaching thing, which I'll get to. But at the time, Yeah,
• 32:33
  Speaker 3: So twenty fifteen, I played a couple games. At the end,
• 32:36
  Speaker 3: we were kind of, you know, we struggled that year.
• 32:38
  Speaker 3: A lot of us end up paying quarterback Matt Castle, Whedon,
• 32:41
  Speaker 3: Tony myself. You know, it was just a rough year
• 32:45
  Speaker 3: for the Cowboys, and so coming back, it was Tony
• 32:48
  Speaker 3: myself and then we end up drafting Dak in the
• 32:50
  Speaker 3: fourth round and I still get a lot of reps
• 32:53
  Speaker 3: as kind of the number two at the time. I
• 32:56
  Speaker 3: have a freak deal at training camp out in Knoxnard.
• 32:58
  Speaker 3: The fourth day, an offense lineman kind of gets pushed
• 33:00
  Speaker 3: back and falls back on my leg.
• 33:02
  Speaker 2: I break my ankle. So I went back to.
• 33:04
  Speaker 3: Dallas, got surgery, kind of sitting there on the couch
• 33:06
  Speaker 3: and I just remember you're watching because Tony was kind
• 33:10
  Speaker 3: of dealing with some maintenance stuff at that point already
• 33:12
  Speaker 3: with the back, and so Dak was taking a ton
• 33:14
  Speaker 3: of reps in practice. He's basically taken ones, twos, and three.
• 33:17
  Speaker 3: He's just going And they played that first game against
• 33:21
  Speaker 3: the Rams and preseasons the first game in the LA Coliseum,
• 33:24
  Speaker 3: and uh, he just goes out there and just is
• 33:26
  Speaker 3: dealing and is incredible.
• 33:28
  Speaker 1: There's two amazing touchdown passes if I remember, Yeah.
• 33:31
  Speaker 3: And then I think, you know, they come back, they
• 33:33
  Speaker 3: playing Dallas and the next week is at Seattle and
• 33:35
  Speaker 3: that's where Tony you know, Tony's back goes out and
• 33:38
  Speaker 3: he gets sacked, you know, just a kind of a
• 33:40
  Speaker 3: freak deal, and Dak rolls out there and deals again.
• 33:43
  Speaker 3: You know, And certainly in the back of your mind,
• 33:45
  Speaker 3: as a competitor, you're kind of like, man like, there's
• 33:48
  Speaker 3: a chance here, and I kind of missed the boat there,
• 33:50
  Speaker 3: you know, And certainly there's a competitive side of you
• 33:53
  Speaker 3: that kind of is challenged by that. But all things
• 33:56
  Speaker 3: happen for a reason. A we figured out that Dak
• 33:59
  Speaker 3: was really, really good. I'm glad we did, because he's
• 34:02
  Speaker 3: turned into such a tremendous he's one of the premier
• 34:04
  Speaker 3: quarterbacks in this league and one of the best guys
• 34:07
  Speaker 3: in this league, and he's phenomenal live and fortunate to
• 34:10
  Speaker 3: be around him for such a long time. But it
• 34:12
  Speaker 3: also led me to the coaching side, you know, because
• 34:14
  Speaker 3: that year I was on ir and Scott and Jason
• 34:17
  Speaker 3: were awesome with me.
• 34:17
  Speaker 2: They allowed me to kind of stay stay in it.
• 34:20
  Speaker 3: I was in the quarterback room trying to be a
• 34:22
  Speaker 3: resource or help in any possible way. Tony was rehabbing,
• 34:26
  Speaker 3: Dak was the starter. Now Sanchez Mark Sanchez being Mark.
• 34:30
  Speaker 3: He got signed like on Tuesday. So there's a lot
• 34:34
  Speaker 3: of movie pieces in this in this room, and so
• 34:36
  Speaker 3: there's an element of, hey, can you just stay in there?
• 34:38
  Speaker 3: So there's at least some commonality there for Scott and
• 34:41
  Speaker 3: for Wade Wilson, who was our quarterback coach at the time.
• 34:44
  Speaker 3: And so it was awesome for me because it let
• 34:46
  Speaker 3: me kind of go on the other side of the thing,
• 34:49
  Speaker 3: be on the coaching side a little bit. I did
• 34:50
  Speaker 3: some projects for them and just kind of helped in
• 34:52
  Speaker 3: any possible way.
• 34:53
  Speaker 2: But I think it.
• 34:54
  Speaker 3: Also gave Jason and Scott a chance to kind of
• 34:56
  Speaker 3: see me from that perspective, which lo and behold allowed
• 34:59
  Speaker 3: me to transition right from player to coach two years later.
• 35:02
  Speaker 3: And so I think without that moment, I don't think
• 35:04
  Speaker 3: I'm doing that. I think, you know, most people would
• 35:06
  Speaker 3: say you're crazy to go from player to coach.
• 35:08
  Speaker 2: To allow that to happen in the NFL.
• 35:10
  Speaker 1: Can you put that then in like a more concise thing,
• 35:12
  Speaker 1: like just as a lesson, because I think of that situation,
• 35:16
  Speaker 1: you've played your entire career waiting for your opportunity. Finally
• 35:19
  Speaker 1: the opportunity arises and you can't physically go, and yet
• 35:21
  Speaker 1: you found a way to pivot and make the most
• 35:23
  Speaker 1: of the opportunity. I think that's a beautiful lesson for
• 35:25
  Speaker 1: anyone in life.
• 35:27
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 35:27
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I think we work our tail off for certain
• 35:30
  Speaker 3: goals and aspirations, and sometimes life pivots and takes you
• 35:34
  Speaker 3: to the path that maybe leads you down something else.
• 35:37
  Speaker 3: And certainly, as a player, you want to play as
• 35:39
  Speaker 3: long as you can. But I always knew I wanted
• 35:41
  Speaker 3: to coach, and so I think the transition that allowed
• 35:45
  Speaker 3: me to go through was tremendous. And sometimes you don't
• 35:48
  Speaker 3: understand it going through it. You don't understand why me,
• 35:50
  Speaker 3: why this situation. It helped us figure out Dak. It
• 35:54
  Speaker 3: helped Dak, It helped myself as my journey went on.
• 35:57
  Speaker 3: Things happened for a reason. I truly believe that it's beautiful.
• 36:00
  Speaker 1: And now I look at it like in Denver and
• 36:02
  Speaker 1: I'm friendly with Sean Payton. He hired Davis Webb, a
• 36:04
  Speaker 1: twenty eight year old, as the quarter best coach. I'm
• 36:07
  Speaker 1: not gonna say you broke down those doors, but you
• 36:09
  Speaker 1: certainly laid the blueprint of Hey, it's possible for these
• 36:12
  Speaker 1: guys to go straight from the playing field to the
• 36:14
  Speaker 1: coaching Yeah.
• 36:15
  Speaker 2: Yeah, And I was fortunate.
• 36:16
  Speaker 3: I basically moved one chair over, you know, instead of
• 36:19
  Speaker 3: being next to the computer, I was running the computer.
• 36:21
  Speaker 3: Other than that, it was the same room, and so
• 36:24
  Speaker 3: you know, I was really fortunate for that. I think
• 36:26
  Speaker 3: it was a lot of fun.
• 36:27
  Speaker 1: You can go as long or as quick as you
• 36:29
  Speaker 1: want on this if I just say the name, and
• 36:30
  Speaker 1: you did say he was one of the great here
• 36:31
  Speaker 1: with Dak Prescott, because I feel like we take it
• 36:35
  Speaker 1: for granted. What a guy is Walter Payton Man of
• 36:36
  Speaker 1: the Year and he goes out there and he's got
• 36:38
  Speaker 1: such consistency when he's on the field and yet hasn't
• 36:41
  Speaker 1: won the big one in There are always critics with it.
• 36:43
  Speaker 1: But as a player and as a man, your experience
• 36:45
  Speaker 1: with Dak Prescott, what would you want listeners to know?
• 36:48
  Speaker 2: The best person?
• 36:50
  Speaker 3: I think the best leader I've ever been around, easily
• 36:54
  Speaker 3: and in all honesty, player or coach or anything. I
• 36:56
  Speaker 3: think his ability to connect with a team and all
• 36:59
  Speaker 3: spectrums is rare and I've never seen it in any
• 37:02
  Speaker 3: other way. His work, ethic, his command, I think he's
• 37:06
  Speaker 3: InCred and so I know, you know, we've all been
• 37:08
  Speaker 3: through that Dallas journey and he has a phenomenal way
• 37:12
  Speaker 3: of being a deal with probably more than your average
• 37:14
  Speaker 3: NFL starting quarterback, and he handled it beautifully. And yeah,
• 37:18
  Speaker 3: he's certainly certainly a guy you.
• 37:20
  Speaker 2: Forever root for.
• 37:21
  Speaker 1: That's awesome, man. All Right, we do rapid fire. I
• 37:23
  Speaker 1: was asked you some quick questions about philosophy, about your
• 37:26
  Speaker 1: history in the NFL, and we we wrap it up.
• 37:28
  Speaker 1: I'm loving this and I appreciate you taking the time,
• 37:31
  Speaker 1: especially during this vacation week from it all. You would
• 37:34
  Speaker 1: say your mentor in football is whom I.
• 37:37
  Speaker 3: Would say My two most prominent ones are my dad
• 37:41
  Speaker 3: across from Mustangs and Chris Peterson, not just those two
• 37:44
  Speaker 3: stops of life. Uh yeah, I think those those were
• 37:47
  Speaker 3: the foundations for who I am.
• 37:49
  Speaker 1: You played with guys like Calvin Johnson, You've also played with, uh,
• 37:55
  Speaker 1: you played with superstars like does Brynt. You play with
• 37:57
  Speaker 1: all these great NFL players. The most freakish athlete that
• 38:02
  Speaker 1: you have played with in NFL is who.
• 38:04
  Speaker 3: Calvin by by far like Calvin I think was just
• 38:08
  Speaker 3: he's just different. And like you know, I remember the
• 38:11
  Speaker 3: first time, so I'm a rookie, I show up to
• 38:15
  Speaker 3: OTA's and they got we're in the red zone for
• 38:18
  Speaker 3: some reason, I think it had a ben a screw up.
• 38:20
  Speaker 3: Calvin's on the field when I'm on the field, which
• 38:22
  Speaker 3: shouldn't be going on on the thirst and QB and
• 38:25
  Speaker 3: we call a red zone play and there's like two
• 38:27
  Speaker 3: guys in the back line and I happened to throw
• 38:30
  Speaker 3: to the guy on the right, who was Titus Young
• 38:31
  Speaker 3: at the.
• 38:32
  Speaker 2: Time that I had played with Poise and.
• 38:36
  Speaker 3: Matthew and Sean Hill be in the backup at the time,
• 38:38
  Speaker 3: who's phenomenal.
• 38:39
  Speaker 2: He just looks at me and.
• 38:40
  Speaker 3: Says, if that other guy's ever on the field, just throw.
• 38:43
  Speaker 1: It to.
• 38:46
  Speaker 3: The rest of the time and for whatever reason that
• 38:48
  Speaker 3: guy's on the field, just throw it to him.
• 38:50
  Speaker 2: And that was like the simplest lesson.
• 38:51
  Speaker 3: Hey, that guy's different than any other human being that
• 38:54
  Speaker 3: you'll ever be around.
• 38:55
  Speaker 1: Yeah, growing up, who is the player? And you mentioned
• 38:58
  Speaker 1: those those mustangs that you liked. But who was the
• 39:00
  Speaker 1: player in the NFL that you aspired to be or
• 39:02
  Speaker 1: that you saw and said, hey, maybe someday.
• 39:05
  Speaker 2: Growing up to the Northwest. So bec was my guy?
• 39:08
  Speaker 1: Really? I love that.
• 39:09
  Speaker 2: I loved his presence, you know that.
• 39:11
  Speaker 1: I think he would really love hearing that. Does he
• 39:13
  Speaker 1: know that? Have you told me?
• 39:13
  Speaker 2: I hope he does.
• 39:14
  Speaker 3: I am a disciple of the Matt Hasselbeck Passing Academy.
• 39:19
  Speaker 1: Okay, so this is a camp that he put on.
• 39:22
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah he put on yep.
• 39:24
  Speaker 3: I think I'm one of like two guys whoever got
• 39:26
  Speaker 3: out of there that you know.
• 39:27
  Speaker 2: Got to the NFL.
• 39:28
  Speaker 3: But I was there, you know, Seneca Wallace was my
• 39:30
  Speaker 3: camp counselor yeah, you know, and that was that was
• 39:34
  Speaker 3: my guy. I loved his command, the way he's played,
• 39:37
  Speaker 3: like the he was always having fun like that was
• 39:40
  Speaker 3: the coolest thing to me. It was like, this is
• 39:41
  Speaker 3: the NFL and this guy's just like smiling, having fun,
• 39:44
  Speaker 3: loving this thing.
• 39:45
  Speaker 1: Who is the biggest personality that you've come across in
• 39:48
  Speaker 1: the NFL.
• 39:49
  Speaker 2: Oh that's interesting.
• 39:51
  Speaker 1: You can take that anywhere you want, the biggest alpha,
• 39:53
  Speaker 1: the most hilarious, whoever it is.
• 39:56
  Speaker 3: Yeah, that is a great question, and I got, Man,
• 40:00
  Speaker 3: you can go a lot of different ways here.
• 40:02
  Speaker 2: I think biggest personality, like Dez was so much fun.
• 40:05
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I think because is you know, he's like a
• 40:08
  Speaker 3: kid in the sense that when he was playing there,
• 40:10
  Speaker 3: and I say that in the most positive way, like
• 40:12
  Speaker 3: he just wanted to throw up, play catch.
• 40:14
  Speaker 1: All day, just pure joy during warm ups. The trainers
• 40:19
  Speaker 1: coming up to me at the Cowboys being like, we
• 40:20
  Speaker 1: have to keep an eye on des because he gets
• 40:22
  Speaker 1: so excited during warm ups. Like I love that there.
• 40:25
  Speaker 3: I mean, he'll he'll grab every equipment guy, every like
• 40:27
  Speaker 3: strength coach. He just wants to play catch the entire
• 40:30
  Speaker 3: pregame and even during practice, like if the defense is
• 40:32
  Speaker 3: going he's over there like hey, hey, come over here
• 40:34
  Speaker 3: to the other field, like I just want I just
• 40:36
  Speaker 3: want to run some routs and catch like and he
• 40:37
  Speaker 3: just wants to catch all day long.
• 40:39
  Speaker 2: And I thought it was so cool, Like it was
• 40:42
  Speaker 2: the most fun. Uh. He truly just loved playing football.
• 40:46
  Speaker 1: I love that. Do you have a good Jerry Jones
• 40:48
  Speaker 1: story that's like I say, safe for but you know
• 40:51
  Speaker 1: it does Jerry Jones story that we could all say
• 40:53
  Speaker 1: that's pretty cool.
• 40:55
  Speaker 3: Oh, I love Jerry I could think of two, probably
• 41:00
  Speaker 3: one being for my first three or four years, he
• 41:02
  Speaker 3: thought I was keeling, but I was the third string QB,
• 41:06
  Speaker 3: so I something else say a word?
• 41:07
  Speaker 2: So why would you even even.
• 41:09
  Speaker 3: When I was first the uh, you know, I first
• 41:11
  Speaker 3: got a chance to be the coordinator, I think I
• 41:12
  Speaker 3: was still keeling at the time, but I wasn't gonna
• 41:14
  Speaker 3: saying things I keeling everyone's while I was calling.
• 41:18
  Speaker 1: Uh.
• 41:18
  Speaker 2: But you know, you just kind of go with it,
• 41:20
  Speaker 2: you know, like, hey, I'm.
• 41:21
  Speaker 1: Going Jerry, Joe, I'm happy, I don't care. Yeah, yeah.
• 41:24
  Speaker 3: And so in Dallas there was there tended to be
• 41:26
  Speaker 3: a little bit of running joke of I was keeling,
• 41:28
  Speaker 3: not killing. But you know, the other one I would
• 41:31
  Speaker 3: think of was when we first got to the Star.
• 41:33
  Speaker 3: This is probably twenty seventeen, they're eighteen, one of those
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  Speaker 3: one of those OTA times, And for people to understand
• 41:39
  Speaker 3: the Star, there's a lot of commercial stuff going on
• 41:41
  Speaker 3: around it as well as the football, right and so anyways,
• 41:45
  Speaker 3: we're going through an OTA practice. Jason was the head
• 41:47
  Speaker 3: coach at the time, and uh, the security officer, you know,
• 41:51
  Speaker 3: the guy who kind of runs security there, Cable Johnson
• 41:53
  Speaker 3: Apps And to come out and he's kind of waving
• 41:54
  Speaker 3: Jason down in the middle of a practice like, hey,
• 41:57
  Speaker 3: we got to move, we got to move and do
• 41:59
  Speaker 3: the football team kind of like, and Jason has that
• 42:02
  Speaker 3: dumb founder look like, what are you talking about? Like,
• 42:05
  Speaker 3: we're in the middle of practices, I can We've got
• 42:06
  Speaker 3: to move. The choppers come. The choppers coming, like straight
• 42:10
  Speaker 3: out straight out of the movie. Everyone's kind of like, wait,
• 42:13
  Speaker 3: so are we supposed to pause practice? And you see
• 42:15
  Speaker 3: this chopper come. We've been around the buildings at the
• 42:19
  Speaker 3: at the Star, and sure enough, here comes to chopper.
• 42:21
  Speaker 3: It's got a lamb, it's got a lamd right on
• 42:23
  Speaker 3: the field, and so everyone kind of cleared off. We
• 42:26
  Speaker 3: had a nice little like extended water break. The chopper
• 42:28
  Speaker 3: came through, got everyone where they needed to be, and
• 42:31
  Speaker 3: then then practice resumed and so it was quite the experience.
• 42:35
  Speaker 1: But that is so good.
• 42:37
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I love it. You know. Jerry's Jerry's the absolute best.
• 42:40
  Speaker 1: The biggest show in town. Man, it is, And I
• 42:43
  Speaker 1: think he's still everyone what he does. The other owners
• 42:45
  Speaker 1: still in a lot of ways still follow He's still
• 42:47
  Speaker 1: the leader of that group, and of course the NFL,
• 42:49
  Speaker 1: he's one of the biggest characters himself. My last question,
• 42:53
  Speaker 1: your message to Chargers fans as we head to twenty
• 42:56
  Speaker 1: twenty three and they're so excited. In fact, I was
• 42:58
  Speaker 1: looking at a podcast. It's like the Lockdown Chargers podcast.
• 43:01
  Speaker 1: It's like, are we too excited for Kellen Moore's offense?
• 43:04
  Speaker 1: Like it's getting to that point. What would be your
• 43:05
  Speaker 1: message for a fan base that is just so hungry
• 43:08
  Speaker 1: for some success.
• 43:09
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think we're just gonna have fun. We're just
• 43:11
  Speaker 2: gonna go for it.
• 43:12
  Speaker 3: I think that's the biggest thing that we're excited for
• 43:14
  Speaker 3: is we got a group who can do do some
• 43:16
  Speaker 3: really good things, and we're excited to build this thing
• 43:18
  Speaker 3: for twenty twenty three. And so whatever that offense ends
• 43:21
  Speaker 3: up looking like as we go through training camp.
• 43:23
  Speaker 2: We'll build it however we need to. But you know,
• 43:26
  Speaker 2: we're gonna be aggressive. We're going to go for it.
• 43:27
  Speaker 1: I said in the monologue that there's an annual party
• 43:30
  Speaker 1: out in the Hamptons in New York and it's thrown
• 43:33
  Speaker 1: by Michael Rubin, who's the CEO of Fanatics, and the
• 43:35
  Speaker 1: biggest stars in music and the biggest stars in the
• 43:38
  Speaker 1: NBA go and every year there's a couple of NBA
• 43:40
  Speaker 1: guys that make it. Would you say, Justin Herbert's probably
• 43:43
  Speaker 1: not going to be at that.
• 43:43
  Speaker 2: Party, probably not, Probably not Gene Oregon.
• 43:48
  Speaker 1: He'll be a Eugene, Oregon watching fireworks from a far
• 43:51
  Speaker 1: distance away thinking about football, which is probably a good thing.
• 43:55
  Speaker 1: Kellen Moore, this was awesome. We appreciate you taking the time.
• 43:58
  Speaker 1: You went forty minutes, went over time with us, and
• 44:00
  Speaker 1: I can't say how excited I am enough for this
• 44:03
  Speaker 1: Chargers offense with you and Herbert together, But I also
• 44:05
  Speaker 1: know Brandon's quite well and thank you. Guys are going
• 44:07
  Speaker 1: to be a great team as far as offensive coordinator
• 44:11
  Speaker 1: slash head coach or offensive coordinator then him as the
• 44:13
  Speaker 1: head coach. But I just thank you for coming on
• 44:15
  Speaker 1: the podcast. It was really cool you're doing this.
• 44:17
  Speaker 2: No appreciate it. Thanks Peter.
• 44:18
  Speaker 1: That was awesome, Kellen Moore. Great if you're a Chargers fan,
• 44:22
  Speaker 1: you got to come away from that thing just feeling
• 44:24
  Speaker 1: confident that you're in competent hands and Justin herbertson a
• 44:28
  Speaker 1: very good situation. To you guys, the listeners, Thanks so much.
• 44:32
  Speaker 1: Enjoy your July fourth weekend. Continue to subscribe. Tell your
• 44:35
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• 44:37
  Speaker 1: the way we are. We're getting these guys that don't
• 44:40
  Speaker 1: have to do it. They're doing it voluntarily. This isn't
• 44:42
  Speaker 1: through an entire booking situation. These are me reaching out
• 44:46
  Speaker 1: to these coaches and these gms and them agreeing to
• 44:48
  Speaker 1: do it, and it's so appreciated. Kellen Moore is a
• 44:52
  Speaker 1: great interview. He's also a great dad and leader of men.
• 44:55
  Speaker 1: So I'm excited to see what they do in LA,
• 44:57
  Speaker 1: but I'm also excited to see who we get up
• 44:59
  Speaker 1: next on this podcast. Enjoy July fourth, everyone, Please be safe,
• 45:04
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• 45:08
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• 45:10
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• 45:18
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• 45:21
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• 45:23
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