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Bonus Episode: Guacamole Fights, Red Hat Retribution, and Supportive Slayer Stans · DISGRACELAND

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Speaker 1: Hey discos, you can listen to an extended version of
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Speaker 1: to Disgraceland, which is brought to you by Double Elvis.
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Speaker 1: This week we have a brand new episode on van
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Speaker 1: to hear that all Right, after Party, here we go,
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Speaker 1: Hey discos, need a little more disgrace Land in your life?
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Speaker 2: Just a touch to get you through? Yeah, me too.
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Speaker 1: This is the podcast that comes after the podcast Welcome
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Speaker 1: to Disgraceland The after Party. Welcome to the Disgraceland bonus episode,
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Speaker 1: a little thing we like to call the after Party.
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Speaker 1: This is the show after the show, the party after
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Speaker 1: the party, the bridge to gave from one full episode
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Speaker 1: of Disgraceland to the other, the backyard to dig into
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Speaker 1: the dirt. On this episode, we are talking about our
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Speaker 1: brand new episode on Van Halen, the sources we use
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Speaker 1: for this episode which helped us uncover a crazy story
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Speaker 1: about how the band partnered with the US Marshals to
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Speaker 1: bust a bootleg merchandise ring. Also another brand new episode
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Speaker 1: this week, an exclusive episode on Lane stately of Alison Chains,
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Speaker 1: available to our All Access members and of course your voicemails,
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Speaker 1: text DM and more and as always, a whole lot
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Speaker 1: of Rosie.
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Speaker 2: All right, disc goes, Let's get into it.
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Speaker 1: I made my parents buy me a knockoff red stratocaster
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Speaker 1: from the Sears catalog just so I could hockey tape
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Speaker 1: the shit out of it. The first riff I ever
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Speaker 1: attempted to play on guitar was you Really Got Me?
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Speaker 1: And it wasn't because of the Kinks. First bong hit
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Speaker 1: I ever took was in the backseat of Richie Hoak's
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Speaker 1: shipbox with eruption bleeding my ears and blowing my mind.
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Speaker 1: Eddie van Halen made his guitar in that song sound
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Speaker 1: like aliens were landing, and his music made me feel
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Speaker 1: something different, older, dangerous, like a card carrying member of
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Speaker 1: teenage Wasteland. Eddie van Halen was everywhere during my youth,
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Speaker 1: and he deserved to be. He was that good, that
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Speaker 1: inventive mind blowing, a fucking beast whose influence is immeasurable.
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Speaker 1: I even secretly like those awful Van hagartoons that came later.
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Speaker 1: I still do, but don't tell anyone. Rest in peace,
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Speaker 1: Eddie van Hallen. I wrote those words back in October
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Speaker 1: twenty twenty when Eddie van Halen passed away, and I
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Speaker 1: went and dug them up this morning before recording this,
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Speaker 1: to remind myself of what Eddie van Halen has meant
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Speaker 1: to me, not just as a musician, which I barely
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Speaker 1: am anymore, but more as a music listener. It's hard
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Speaker 1: to expect anyone who was not a teenager in the
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Speaker 1: nineteen seventies, the nineteen eighties, or the nineteen nineties to
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Speaker 1: understand the actual importance of Eddie Van Halen. Sure you
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Speaker 1: can imagine that the guy had a thing, that he
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Speaker 1: was a thing, that he was a guy. Okay, you
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Speaker 1: can imagine that he even he that he was or
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Speaker 1: is iconic, that sly smile, that that wacko, like I
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Speaker 1: mentioned before, hockey tape guitar design, the red strat with
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Speaker 1: the white stripes may even when you hear him, you
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Speaker 1: start to understand that his sound was unique and that
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Speaker 1: he was this unique player in rock and roll. But
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Speaker 1: to fully understand, I think it's a you had to
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Speaker 1: be there kind of thing. And I'm not trying to
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Speaker 1: sound like the old cool dude nothing that those things
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Speaker 1: can co exist old and cool. Of course they can,
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Speaker 1: but that's not what I'm trying to do. When we
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Speaker 1: were kids, we would argue about who the greatest living
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Speaker 1: guitar player was, and you almost wouldn't even talk about
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Speaker 1: Eddie Van Hallen in the context of that argument because
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Speaker 1: it was a conversation ender. It was just known that
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Speaker 1: he was the best. Sure, you could argue about angs
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Speaker 1: young Steve I or pick your guitar player whoever else
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Speaker 1: was gracing the pages of Hipparader that month, but you
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Speaker 1: couldn't choose Eddie unless you wanted to shut the conversation
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Speaker 1: down and you know, talk about something else, football or
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Speaker 1: maybe steer the hang toward a game and spin the
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Speaker 1: bottle or something. Eddie van Halen was truly the best,
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Speaker 1: and van Halen, the David Lee Roth version and the
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Speaker 1: Sammy Hagar were worthy of Eddie's immense talents. They made
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Speaker 1: great music, and in the here and now, a day
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Speaker 1: after the release of our Van Halen Disgraceland episode, as
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Speaker 1: I walk around the world thinking about the band, I
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Speaker 1: find them to be wildly compelling. Still to this day.
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Speaker 1: They prompt a lot of fucking questions, all right. The
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Speaker 1: obvious one was Eddie van Haleen, the greatest rock and
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Speaker 1: roll guitarist of all time. I put a list of
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Speaker 1: five five guitar players together up on Instagram yesterday and
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Speaker 1: it was like throwing bloody chum into a pool of
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Speaker 1: fucking hammerheads. Everyone has an opinion relative to Eddie's greatness.
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Speaker 1: The five guitarists I listed were Eddie Hendrix, Jimmy Page,
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Speaker 1: Eric Clapton, and Stevie Rayvaughn. Now, of course it's a list,
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Speaker 1: it's subjective. It's just my opinion. Man, Actually it's not
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Speaker 1: even my opinion. I just wanted five guitarists that I
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Speaker 1: thought were universally thought of as being the greatest in
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Speaker 1: rock and roll. Clapton and Stevie Yvaughn wouldn't be on
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Speaker 1: my list, but that's not the point. Eddie would be
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Speaker 1: at worse second, and like I said in the post,
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Speaker 1: I can make an argument as to why he could
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Speaker 1: be first. People, of course were super passionate about their
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Speaker 1: five picks, but almost no one doubted the importance and
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Speaker 1: the placement of Eddie van Halen on the list, and
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Speaker 1: I can't say the same for any of the others
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Speaker 1: except for Hendrix. That makes my point Eddie van Halen
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Speaker 1: totally unique, not just another great guitar player. One of
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Speaker 1: the greatest, may be the greatest, definitely in the top two.
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Speaker 1: That's my opinion. Come at me with Jeff Beck. All
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Speaker 1: you want Eddie van Halen all day, every day over
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Speaker 1: Jeff Beck just saying so. Driving around yesterday admittedly probably
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Speaker 1: a little too fast, and listening to Dreams by Sammy
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Speaker 1: Hagar from the Sammy Hagar version of Van Halen, I
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Speaker 1: should say, a song that I hated growing up but
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Speaker 1: have now somehow found space four Nostalgia will do that,
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Speaker 1: I guess. But anyways, when listening to Dreams and Best
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Speaker 1: of Both Worlds, I can't believe I'm saying this and
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Speaker 1: other Hagar tunes. It prompted another question, this one I've
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Speaker 1: yet to ask, and it's this, is Van Halen the
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Speaker 1: greatest band ever rebound from the departure of the original singer?
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Speaker 1: The contenders ACDC? Of course, Black Sabbath Foreigner. I guess
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Speaker 1: Audio Slave and Velvet Revolver need to be included in
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Speaker 1: this list, even though they changed the names from Arraging
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Speaker 1: Against the Machine and Guns n' Roses, and I know
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Speaker 1: Van Hallen and they prompt this question, and I like that.
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Speaker 1: But HM better than Dio's version of Black Sabbath. I
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Speaker 1: don't know, maybe maybe certainly a bigger impact I think
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Speaker 1: culturally now that I'm thinking about it, But better than
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Speaker 1: ACDC Brian Johnson's ACDC. Not that I'm saying Brian Johnson's
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Speaker 1: ACDC was better than Bond Scott's ACDC, because it definitely
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Speaker 1: was not. But I still think Brian Johnson's ACDC is
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Speaker 1: better than Sammy Hagar's Van Halen. Now do we dock
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Speaker 1: Van Halen for the Gary Sharon era. That is the
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Speaker 1: real question. No, no shade to Gary Sharon. But I mean,
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Speaker 1: come on, all right. Another question, this one prompted also
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Speaker 1: while driving around yesterday and listening to Van Halen but
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Speaker 1: listening to the David Lee Roth era. There are good
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Speaker 1: cover songs and there are great cover songs. To me,
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Speaker 1: good cover songs are fine. There are plenty of them,
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Speaker 1: and sometimes it's just fun to hear a band that
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Speaker 1: you really like mess with the song with another band
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Speaker 1: that you really like. Those are good cover songs. Faith
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Speaker 1: No More covering Warpigs by Black Sabbath, The Beatles covering
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Speaker 1: Anna by Arthur Alexander, The Supersuckers, and Steve Earle covering
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Speaker 1: Keith richards Is before They Make Me Run. These are
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Speaker 1: all perfectly good cover songs. Songs. I love versions, I
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Speaker 1: love covers I actually seek out to listen to. But
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Speaker 1: then there are great cover songs. The difference is any
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Speaker 1: musician can learn someone else's song and learn how to
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Speaker 1: play it and play it well, even even do it
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Speaker 1: in their own style. But it takes a special musician
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Speaker 1: to record someone else's song and make you forget about
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Speaker 1: the original or to be more kind to record someone
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Speaker 1: else's song and completely turn it into their own, into
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Speaker 1: something totally new and unique, something that wouldn't have existed
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Speaker 1: without their hands being on it. Stevie Rayvaughn's version of
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Speaker 1: Little Wing by Jimmy Hendricks is a good cover, but
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Speaker 1: it doesn't take the song anywhere new now Jimmy Hendricks
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Speaker 1: cover of All Along the Watchtower by Bob Dylan made
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Speaker 1: Bob Dylan never want to play his song his way again.
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Speaker 1: He only now plays it Hendrix's way. Okay, that's what
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Speaker 1: I'm talking about. I love Roy Orbison, and I love
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Speaker 1: Roy Orbison's Pretty Woman, but Roy Orbison's Pretty Woman doesn't
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Speaker 1: make me feel like I'm in a deleted scene from
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Speaker 1: Fast Times at Ridgemont High. Roy Orbison's Pretty Woman doesn't
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Speaker 1: make me feel like I want to go pound beers
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Speaker 1: up at the tracks with my friends from high school.
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Speaker 1: Roy Orbison's Pretty Woman doesn't make me want to learn
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Speaker 1: how to play guitar. Eddie Van Halen's version a Pretty
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Speaker 1: Woman makes me want to do all those things and more,
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Speaker 1: and has since the first time I heard it, and
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Speaker 1: hearing it again yesterday when driving around it walloped me
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Speaker 1: that guitar playing that sound in tone, the harmonies from
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Speaker 1: the band, the incredible charisma from David Lee Roth, and
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Speaker 1: light of the greatest guitar player question we're asking, I
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Speaker 1: got to ask ask another super obvious question. Is Pretty
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Speaker 1: Woman the greatest example of a cover being better than
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Speaker 1: the original?
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Speaker 2: If not, let me.
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Speaker 1: Know what is six one seven, nine oh six six
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Speaker 1: six three eight. And while we're at it, also let
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Speaker 1: me know who your number one pick for greatest rock
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Speaker 1: and roll guitar player of all time is? Is it
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Speaker 1: Eddie Van Halen? Is it Jimmy Hendrix? Is it Gulp? There,
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Speaker 1: I say, Tom Morello, Jeff Beck, Jack fucking White, It's not.
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Speaker 2: But I just got to throw it out there.
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Speaker 1: Someone else let me know six one seven, nine oh
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Speaker 1: six six six three eight. I'm gonna take a quick
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Speaker 1: break and I'll be back in the flash to discuss
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Speaker 1: some of the sources behind this episode. And some dude
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Speaker 1: with a red baseball cap. All right, let's talk Van
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Speaker 1: Halen sources. There are two primary books that we use
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Speaker 1: for this episode. And remember this episode focuses entirely on
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Speaker 1: the first incarnation of Van Hallen, with Davidlye Roth as
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Speaker 1: the front man. Will we do a van Hagar episode,
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Speaker 1: Will we get back into the later David Lee Roth
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Speaker 1: Reunited days? We got to do it, all right, I'm
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Speaker 1: just saying it now, even though, like two after parties ago,
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Speaker 1: I said no more two part episodes, But there's so
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Speaker 1: much more to this freaking band story that Yeah, at
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Speaker 1: some point we will do a part two, I'm sure
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Speaker 1: of it. The first book we used for this episode
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Speaker 1: is called Running with the Devil, A backstage Pass to
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Speaker 1: the Wild Times, Loud, Rocking Down and Dirty Truth Beyond
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Speaker 1: the Making of Van Halen.
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Speaker 2: This was written by Noel Monk. Okay, this guy.
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Speaker 1: You might recognize this name if you just listen to
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Speaker 1: the van Halen episode we released. Noel Monk features prominently
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Speaker 1: in that episode. He was at the time van Halen's manager.
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Speaker 1: He was first their tour manager and then he became
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Speaker 1: their actual manager later on. And this book is jam
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Speaker 1: packed with not so not so behavior crazy Shit's where
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Speaker 1: we got all the stuff on van Halen's team going
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Speaker 1: after merch bootleggers with the help of US marshals, The
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Speaker 1: story about smashing the Black Sabbath fan over the head
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Speaker 1: with a beer bottle, the stuff about the Sleezball manager
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Speaker 1: who taped the pornos and played them for the secretaries
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Speaker 1: at Warner Brothers. And I must clarify right now that
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Speaker 1: that was not Noel Monk, who was the manager at
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Speaker 1: the time, who did that. Okay, it was another guy
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Speaker 1: that Monk is writing about. And honestly, there were a
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Speaker 1: lot of people on the payroll with very similar titles
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Speaker 1: at the time, so it's easy to get confused. There's
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Speaker 1: also in the history of van Halen, as I'm sure
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Speaker 1: you know, and I know you know, forgive me, don't
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Speaker 1: forgive me.
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Speaker 2: I just got to address this.
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Speaker 1: There's lots lots of childish rockstar antics in Monk's book
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Speaker 1: in the past, in van Halen's history, which honestly, you know,
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Speaker 1: it's become a bit of a cliche. So we didn't
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Speaker 1: want to make this episode all about guacamole fights and
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Speaker 1: groupies smeared in ketchup and all that fucking brown eminem bullshit. Okay,
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Speaker 1: it's there, if you want it, you can get it elsewhere.
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Speaker 1: Our themes for this episode were a little bit different,
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Speaker 1: themes of innovation, of protecting those innovations, even if it
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Speaker 1: means being ruthless in your defense of your innovation. All
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Speaker 1: that comes from a different book, a book called Eruption,
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Speaker 1: Conversations with Eddie Van Halen that was written by Brad
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Speaker 1: Tlinsky and Chris Gil. Talinsky was the editor in chief
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Speaker 1: at Guitar World magazine. Gill was a regular contributor, and
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Speaker 1: for years decades even the two of them went up
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Speaker 1: to Eddie van Halen's fifty one to fifty studio to
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Speaker 1: hang out and talk. And this book Eruption, stems from
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Speaker 1: over fifty hours of unreleased interviews that they recorded before
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Speaker 1: Eddie's death in twenty twenty. It is a great read.
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Speaker 1: If you're a fan of Van Halen and a fan
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Speaker 1: of Eddie's playing, if you're into the guitar, you want
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Speaker 1: to get inside the head of one of the greatest
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Speaker 1: guitarists to ever do it that I highly recommend. This
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Speaker 1: also sheds light on why, and this is the key thing,
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Speaker 1: why Eddie van Halen innovated the way that he did,
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Speaker 1: not only because he didn't have any money and he
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Speaker 1: literally had to build the guitar, he had to build
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Speaker 1: a thing that he wanted from cheap scraps, but because
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Speaker 1: he was bullied as a kid. Okay, That's something I'm
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Speaker 1: sure we can all of a certain age relate to.
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Speaker 1: When we weren't so protected as chill, and we went
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Speaker 1: out into the neighborhood no matter where we were front,
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Speaker 1: we ventured beyond those neighborhood boundaries. We got our asses kicked.
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Speaker 1: Some of us even got our asses kicked in the neighborhood.
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Speaker 1: Some of us were from other places with hard to
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Speaker 1: pronounce names, and had hard to pronounce names like Eddie
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Speaker 1: van Halen, and they were bullied no matter where the
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Speaker 1: fuck they went. A kid moving from Halland to America,
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Speaker 1: he was bullied and humiliated in the outside world, and
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Speaker 1: that drove him inside into his bedroom where he channeled
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Speaker 1: all of his frustration and complicated feelings into his guitar, playing,
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Speaker 1: into building his guitar, and his guitar sound fascinating stuff,
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Speaker 1: and it comes from this book eruption conversations with eddievan Halen.
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Speaker 1: You're going to want to check that out. I related
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Speaker 1: to this. I know Zeth who wrote this episode related
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Speaker 1: to this. This is something I think we can You
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Speaker 1: know I was driven inside my room all the time
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Speaker 1: for different reasons, basically because I was a little fuck
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Speaker 1: up and my mom was grounding me all the time,
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Speaker 1: but it drove me straight into books, straight into guitar,
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Speaker 1: straight into music, straight into writing, straight in to figure
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Speaker 1: out and making who I am today. So this was
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Speaker 1: very very relatable to me. Not that I'm comparing myself
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Speaker 1: to van Halen. I am, however, comparing myself somewhat to
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Speaker 1: his experiences. I'm sure you guys can as well. I
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Speaker 1: want to know your thoughts on van Halen. Is Eddie
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Speaker 1: van Halen the greatest guitar player of all time? Like
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Speaker 1: I asked before, is Pretty Woman the greatest example of
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Speaker 1: a cover being better exceeding blowing the original.
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Speaker 2: Out of the water?
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Speaker 1: And is van Halen the greatest band to recover from
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Speaker 1: the departure of their lead singer? I don't think so,
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Speaker 1: but I had to ask six one seven nine oh
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Speaker 1: six six six three eight voicemail and text to let
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Speaker 1: me know, just like the nine ozher four with this voicemail.
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Speaker 3: Good morning, Marcello just goes and Jake Man, the van
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Speaker 3: Halen episode is this and you broke it right at
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Speaker 3: the right spot too much the text that I'm driving,
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Speaker 3: but the U you brought up the end and.
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Speaker 4: MS, which is hilarious.
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Speaker 3: Uh, that was on their tour Rider, and they wanted.
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Speaker 4: To make sure that they actually read the tour Rider, so.
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Speaker 3: They put in a ridiculous shit like a bowl full
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Speaker 3: of m and ms with all the brown ones removed.
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Speaker 2: But yeah, man, you broke get.
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Speaker 4: In the right place, you know.
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Speaker 3: Oh who's fo already? Is that that Fammies?
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Speaker 4: Ah and the page turn Van Hayguard is born?
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Speaker 3: Good stuff. Man, can't wait for the part two. Can't
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Speaker 3: wait for Lane Stay and Outs.
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Speaker 1: And Chames keep it going, keep rolling later you got
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Speaker 1: it nine oh four. We can't wait for the part
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Speaker 1: two either. That episode just it just teed up the
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Speaker 1: part two. We weren't even trying to do that, Frankly,
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Speaker 1: it just did it. Glad you picked up on that.
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Speaker 1: Appreciate the call. Drive safe out there? All right, all,
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Speaker 1: let's check out this voicemail from the seven to seventy three.
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Speaker 4: Hey, what's up man? I love the show. I just
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Speaker 4: wanted to put in a word for a show about
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Speaker 4: hr from Bad Brains arrested constantly. I had tickets to
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Speaker 4: see him twice and missed both shows because he was
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Speaker 4: in jail. Recorded Sacred Love from Jail, Alleged rapists, homophobic
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Speaker 4: aggravated assault, you name it, schizophrenic. I think I think
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Speaker 4: it would make a great show. Keep doing what you do,
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Speaker 4: keep on rolling. Love it so much and thanks man.
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Speaker 1: Seven seven three, Thanks for the show, thanks for the
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Speaker 1: excuse me, thanks thanks for the voicemail, and thanks for
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Speaker 1: the episode recommendation. You know, Bad Brains is one of
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Speaker 1: my favorite bands ever and like top five of all time.
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Speaker 1: And I know very little about their history. I've read
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Speaker 1: next to nothing. I've never seen them live. I mean
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Speaker 1: that's not true. I did see them live like ten
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Speaker 1: twelve years ago something like that, but it wasn't you know.
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Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. I've never seen them live,
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Speaker 1: and I don't know a lot about them. Of course,
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Speaker 1: I knew about the homophobia, Don't Blow No Bubbles, that
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Speaker 1: song from with the Quickness from Quickness, excuse me, rapist,
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Speaker 1: never heard that before. I need to look into that
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Speaker 1: see if that's true. I think I knew that Sacred
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Speaker 1: Love was recorded from jail and the schizophrenic thing. Schizophrenia
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Speaker 1: is new to me. This is all shaping up in
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Speaker 1: my head to be an episode I want to write,
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Speaker 1: and I want to write soon, and ZETHLNDI please make
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Speaker 1: a note of that sounds like something we could get
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Speaker 1: into in a really interesting way. So thank you seven
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Speaker 1: seven three. I appreciate that. Plus four to six over
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Speaker 1: in Europe, writes to us Steve McQueen, Hey, listening here
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Speaker 1: from Sweden. Maybe it's just because I'm European, but I
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Speaker 1: more than his native contemporaries, folks like Eas Montagne, Elaine Delon.
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Speaker 2: But just because Alice and Chains.
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Speaker 1: Who were Seattle heavy, they were not Anthrax heavy. They
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Speaker 2: That's aptostrophe capital.
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Speaker 1: En getting trolled by fucking Dave Mustange of all people,
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Speaker 1: that must have stopped, But not as bad as the
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Speaker 2: Fans that did not get a shit for Alice in
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Speaker 1: Known in They helped them with all manners of subterfuge
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Speaker 1: spin on them through the mercilessly Wayne Staley, for one,
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Speaker 1: Slayer fanatics that is, and fanatics being the operative word.
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Speaker 1: These dudes were hard. Lane braced himself did oh for
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Speaker 1: He looked around for some kind of blunt instrument that
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Speaker 1: My number is six one seven, nine oh six, six
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Speaker 1: that you love more than you do, and well that
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Speaker 1: is a disgrace. And now my moment of bliss in
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Speaker 1: honor of this week's episode on Van Halen, me reading
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Speaker 1: you the Pasadena, California phone book from nineteen twenty six,
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Speaker 1: some thirty something years before Eddie, Alex and their parents
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Speaker 1: relocated there from.
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Speaker 2: Their native Holland.
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Speaker 1: Keene F three oh nine West walnut Terrace eight four
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Speaker 1: seven four Dash w keenan Ec, Colorado Dash one six
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