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INTERVIEW: RZA Talks Wu-Tang Final Chamber Tour, Cultural Leaders In Hip-Hop, Time Capsule, Aaliyah + More · The Breakfast Club

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  Speaker 1: Wake that ass up in the morning. The Breakfast Club Morning.
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  Speaker 2: Everybody is the j Envy Jesse, Larry Charlamage, the guy.
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  Speaker 2: We are the Breakfast Club. We got a special guest in.
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  Speaker 1: The building, the legend Rizza. He's your back bound back
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  Speaker 1: in the building. How you feeling, brother, I feel super great.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, everything is lovely. I see you guys are
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  Speaker 2: back on tour.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, indeed, Wu Tang Clan. The Final Chamber.
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  Speaker 2: How difficult was that to put together?
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  Speaker 1: Well, you know, it's uh not as difficult as it
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  Speaker 1: used to be, you know what I mean, but now
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  Speaker 1: this is our last chance to run around the globe together,
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  Speaker 1: and uh yeah, it kind of was. Everybody you know,
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  Speaker 1: agreed that it was the time we started thinking of
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  Speaker 1: a name. Everybody's like this one that that that the
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  Speaker 1: Final Chamber And with that we are Why the Final
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  Speaker 1: Chamber though, Like, how do you know you're putting the
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  Speaker 1: period on this? Is it just for the tour just
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  Speaker 1: Wu Tang in general? Oh? No, for the Wu Tangs's
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  Speaker 1: why that's why we see that. We put that Wu
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  Speaker 1: Tang forever in there, because it's you know, who tank
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  Speaker 1: is beyond just our physical presence of it, you know,
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  Speaker 1: what I mean. But far as us coming together and
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  Speaker 1: coming to your city, all non members on stage, you
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  Speaker 1: know what I mean. You know, when you get your ticket,
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  Speaker 1: you're getting all that. You're getting that, you know what
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  Speaker 1: I mean, because sometimes you go to a Woo show
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  Speaker 1: you might get four five, you know what I mean.
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  Speaker 1: So it's just like now here, we all are clear
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  Speaker 1: your schedule for this, you know what I mean, And
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  Speaker 1: it's running around the globe one more time together. So
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  Speaker 1: we'll start right here in America, give it to you know,
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  Speaker 1: then shoot across the water, you know what I mean,
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  Speaker 1: show some love and just you know, kind of the
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  Speaker 1: best way I can say it is take off that
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  Speaker 1: it's kind of a burden to all come together because
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  Speaker 1: everybody got a life, a job, or something going on
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  Speaker 1: in their lives. And so what we said when that
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  Speaker 1: that sign go up, we all come and the sign
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  Speaker 1: went up, and everybody said, did the Residency make it
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  Speaker 1: easier for everybody to say, Yo, we can do this
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  Speaker 1: the residency health But even at the Residency we have
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  Speaker 1: some absentees, you know what I mean. But it really
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  Speaker 1: helped because it really helped just that consistency of coming together,
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  Speaker 1: the consistency of our brotherhood. Our brotherhood really never never
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  Speaker 1: diminished over the years. And I think for Wu Tang
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  Speaker 1: we represent community unity. You gotta that's that's you know,
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  Speaker 1: so many of us was inspired by Ya the Woo.
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  Speaker 1: It's like, you know, your whole neighborhood on stage, you
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  Speaker 1: know what I mean. And I think that we could
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  Speaker 1: use that right now. I think you know what I mean,
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  Speaker 1: like even autistically for the for the culture, you could
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  Speaker 1: come in and look at the example of the wool. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: so the time is now, you know what I mean.
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  Speaker 2: Does it financially makes sense? And the reason I asked
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  Speaker 2: said all eight members, you got DJs, you got everybody
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  Speaker 2: comes to at least one person security or whatever that means.
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  Speaker 2: So that's a lot of money to put out. But
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  Speaker 2: you know, Wu Tang is always, you know, for the hood.
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  Speaker 2: So I'm sure you guys are not charging astronomical prices.
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  Speaker 2: So financially, was it a financial thing? Is one of
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  Speaker 2: those things? Was like, we just need to do this
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  Speaker 2: regardless of finance.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, the finances. The finance is so beautiful because if
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  Speaker 1: you take a moment right just be and think about
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  Speaker 1: the Wu Tang legacy and think about how many families
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  Speaker 1: it's eating off of that legacy, you know what I mean.
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  Speaker 1: I'm talking about thousands, right. That legacy has went on
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  Speaker 1: from the music to sparking other em c's to figure
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  Speaker 1: out their careers, to inspire other producers and mcs to
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  Speaker 1: and DJs to get up and say, Yo, I'm a DJ.
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  Speaker 1: Now gonna so. And then when you go on a tour,
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  Speaker 1: you know, I mean our tour. You know, I just
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  Speaker 1: saw the tour bus count got about eight buses. That's
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  Speaker 1: crazy to tell you, and then all the trucks. You know,
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  Speaker 1: the production for this tour is crazy. We took time
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  Speaker 1: to really produce something. You know, since the New York
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  Speaker 1: state of mind, we've only kept elevating the level of production.
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  Speaker 1: So it's going to be it's so many families, you know,
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  Speaker 1: union workers, truck drivers, caterers, I mean, the security, it's
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  Speaker 1: a it's a it's a it's a it's a village
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  Speaker 1: that's going to eat off of this. And that's that's
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  Speaker 1: the beauty of it in all reality. What's the differ
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  Speaker 1: between torring has grown men versus when you're always younger. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: that's a good question. I think, like as many you
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  Speaker 1: men right before you trying to get shortage of line
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  Speaker 1: outside your door. You're kind of touring for the experience
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  Speaker 1: of of you know, sex, drugs and rock and roll. Right,
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  Speaker 1: But now you know, you're you're, you're, you're moving with maturity,
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  Speaker 1: and I think you really I can speak for myself
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  Speaker 1: to some of the one talking. I think I really
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  Speaker 1: can understand the impact of what the music do and
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  Speaker 1: what it means. Right when somebody hears I grew up
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  Speaker 1: on the crime side of the New York Times, and
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  Speaker 1: and they they relate that back to their life having
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  Speaker 1: secondhand you know what I mean. Even though a lot
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  Speaker 1: of us is doing better, a lot of us is
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  Speaker 1: doing worse, you know what I mean. So I think
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  Speaker 1: that as a man touring around the world and showing
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  Speaker 1: our culture, it's more meaning meaningful than ever. Now.
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  Speaker 2: I've seen in an interview that you said you went
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  Speaker 2: to each member and said, what do you want to
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  Speaker 2: be on this tour? What do you need? And you
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  Speaker 2: was able to give everybody that. How difficult was that?
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  Speaker 2: And was there anybody that you couldn't give what they wanted?
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  Speaker 1: Now, at the end of the day, you know, you gotta,
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  Speaker 1: you know, be satisfied, right, So we know we do
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  Speaker 1: with mathematics, right, and we know that that when there's dissatisfaction,
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  Speaker 1: it breathes confusion, right. They say, you know, even with
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  Speaker 1: seventy percent of the people were satisfied, the other thirty
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  Speaker 1: percent was dissatisfied, and that other thirty percent winning started
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  Speaker 1: their own shit and now you got competition. So you
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  Speaker 1: got to strive to resatisfaction. And satisfaction is when someone
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  Speaker 1: can say yoh for me. You know, I don't care
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  Speaker 1: if it's just like yo, I just want Banana's every
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  Speaker 1: night and my dressing what he wants. You know what
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  Speaker 1: I mean. It's accommodate that it's accommodate the comfortability because
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  Speaker 1: I think I know I see it different. My brother
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  Speaker 1: de Vne see it different. Our whole management team. We
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  Speaker 1: know that when you are going out on the road,
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  Speaker 1: you leave in your family, you know what I mean,
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  Speaker 1: You're leaving with you your routine of life. And so
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  Speaker 1: we want to make you as comfortable as possible. So
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  Speaker 1: this becomes a moment of joy versus a moment of work.
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  Speaker 1: Are you confident that every single member is going to
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  Speaker 1: show up for the show. I mean I'm confident for
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  Speaker 1: confidence sake, and I mean of course I'm confident, you
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  Speaker 1: know what I mean. But you know, this is life,
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  Speaker 1: you know what I mean. You can make a wrong
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  Speaker 1: turn on the ninety five, end up in a small
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  Speaker 1: town for the night, you know what I mean. But nah,
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  Speaker 1: I mean far as the intention, right, it's all about
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  Speaker 1: intention and the intention. Everybody is intending to be here.
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  Speaker 1: So if there's the glitch in the matrix, you know,
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  Speaker 1: we're deal with it. And then and there's an album
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  Speaker 1: to come with this too. No no, no, I mean
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  Speaker 1: a lot of Mathematics has a new album that he
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  Speaker 1: he's he put together called Black Sansum uh uh. He
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  Speaker 1: got a new song called Mandingo. He took all like
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  Speaker 1: the Black Exploitation and Kung Fu movies and did an
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  Speaker 1: album and got the entire Wu Tang clan MC's on it,
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  Speaker 1: got Benny the Butcher cool g just just one of
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  Speaker 1: those a lot of Mathematics albums. It's that's dope, and
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  Speaker 1: he so that that's just ironically it is coming out
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  Speaker 1: around the same time. But it wasn't like it wasn't
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  Speaker 1: it wasn't like it was a strategy plan. It was
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  Speaker 1: just like he finished it at the time. When the when,
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  Speaker 1: the when the tour is about to happen, so that's
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  Speaker 1: a blessing for him. And then I did hear I
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  Speaker 1: can say this on the air. I did hear some
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  Speaker 1: of Ray Kwan's new album too. He's yeah, yeah, one
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  Speaker 1: of those. Yeah, I'm excited. So hopefully he gets that
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  Speaker 1: album before the tour drops. And and uh, are you
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  Speaker 1: involved in raisonal album? Just you know from the abbot,
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  Speaker 1: you know what I mean, it comes to the temple
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  Speaker 1: and see if the abbot, you know, wanting to add
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  Speaker 1: some flavor to it or get some wisdom or advice,
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  Speaker 1: you know what I mean. But he's the foundation of it.
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  Speaker 1: He came to me right during the holidays when he
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  Speaker 1: felt like he had a nice I just call it
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  Speaker 1: a body of work, your body of work. I was
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  Speaker 1: gonna call it dough like piece of dope, the mold,
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  Speaker 1: that's you know what I mean. But yeah, now and
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  Speaker 1: we vibed out listen to it twice and then say ah,
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  Speaker 1: yeah I had some vision and get shared my vision.
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  Speaker 1: But you know that's it. It's him doing it is
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  Speaker 1: always you know, he's a general always you know know
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  Speaker 1: how to lead hisself. But then it also as a general,
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  Speaker 1: you know, as wise as the check in with the
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  Speaker 1: abbot and be like, yo, your abbot, what's your what's
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  Speaker 1: your two cents? On this? The thing would raise music.
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  Speaker 1: You gotta clean your palate whenever you listen to any
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  Speaker 1: new Red Quorn album. And when I mean clean your palate,
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  Speaker 1: you can't have no purple tape on your mind, because
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  Speaker 1: the purple tap set the ball. It's extremely high. It's
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  Speaker 1: probably it might be the greatest hip hop album of
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  Speaker 1: all time. It's in that conversation, one of those absolutely
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  Speaker 1: just in that conversation. Well, one thing about him, it's
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  Speaker 1: a few MC's right in our in our business that
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  Speaker 1: just when they open their mouth, it sounds like a record.
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  Speaker 1: Nas is one of course, you know the biggie was
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  Speaker 1: one Jay Ray ghost ghosts. But no matter what, like
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  Speaker 1: when you hear them, you hear a record, you snoop,
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  Speaker 1: you hear them, you hear a record, you know what
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  Speaker 1: I mean? And so on on this on this new music,
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  Speaker 1: it's just like he's choosing unique ways, unique tracks. But
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  Speaker 1: as soon as his voice come in, it's like, oh,
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  Speaker 1: it's a record, you know what I mean? Was it difficult?
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  Speaker 2: Who was the most difficult to get to do this?
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  Speaker 2: And not because of them being difficult, but maybe because
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  Speaker 2: of scheduling.
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  Speaker 1: Right, you got Meth.
• 9:48
  Speaker 2: That's acting, you're acting and producing. You got Ray Corn
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  Speaker 2: that owns a bunch of businesses, and these brothers leaving
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  Speaker 2: their families.
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  Speaker 1: Who was the most difficult to get?
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  Speaker 2: It was like, this is gonna be a little tough.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, if anyone, if anyone else, uh, you know,
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  Speaker 1: I won't say difficult, but let's just say. You know,
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  Speaker 1: like you know, who does the most shows out of
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  Speaker 1: all of us who know the who were listen to
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  Speaker 1: Jesus he's like a jazz musician, yo, like his skep.
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  Speaker 1: It's like you call him yo, want to do the
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  Speaker 1: resident Say, oh, I got forty shows I'm going to Europe,
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  Speaker 1: or Yo, I'm going to twenty shows in Canada. Wow,
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  Speaker 1: he just I mean he stays that Liquids Forward album
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  Speaker 1: arguably one of the best hip hop albums of all
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  Speaker 1: time too, it's just go go. So you got to
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  Speaker 1: check his schedule because he's definitely knocking a hundred one
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  Speaker 1: hundred hundred fifty shows out a year, and so we
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  Speaker 1: actually have to pace and wait from it. And I
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  Speaker 1: had to wait for Yeah, I give him a calls
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  Speaker 1: like like, I'll just schedule for this year, like you
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  Speaker 1: know what I mean. He was like, I'm good. I
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  Speaker 1: didn't I need this much time and Bunk Bung me
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  Speaker 1: as well. I want to get back to the tour.
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  Speaker 1: I want to ask you about Liquid So since were
• 11:07
  Speaker 1: on it, because we was having a whole debate last
• 11:09
  Speaker 1: night in the group chat just about Wu Tang songs
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  Speaker 1: Wu Tang music because you know, my guy beat Out
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  Speaker 1: put out a top ten greatest Wu Tang records and
• 11:18
  Speaker 1: and on Liquid Swords Cold World it goes Co World
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  Speaker 1: Labels Fourth Chamber in the shadow boxing. That's probably one
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  Speaker 1: of the greatest sequences on an album. Do you do
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  Speaker 1: you remember arranging that? Yeah, definitely, definitely that was my
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  Speaker 1: That's that's one of my specialties. I think, not knowing then, right,
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  Speaker 1: the natural ability of editor edit editing, or or having
• 11:43
  Speaker 1: a through line of storytelling. Right. But it was always
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  Speaker 1: been my personality and at that time it was only
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  Speaker 1: expressed music. Now was being expressed and I direct films
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  Speaker 1: and TV shows and all that, but it was it
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  Speaker 1: was it was the same type of energy, like I
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  Speaker 1: could feel the way it goes. I can feel like
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  Speaker 1: when the listener is listening. It's like, oh yo, I
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  Speaker 1: want your emotion to rise up, get them up. By
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  Speaker 1: the time you got the Fourth Chamber, you you driving,
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  Speaker 1: you you might get a ticket, you know what I mean?
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  Speaker 1: And I wanted you know, you know you feel that
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  Speaker 1: right here? Yeah, I always strive to get that feeling
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  Speaker 1: to have your spine for that, I said lyrics, I
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  Speaker 1: said mark to the wooden soldier to see cycle punks
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  Speaker 1: ride the hold. It's a thousand and holds to the square.
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  Speaker 1: We stand through like flair escaped from the dragons lair.
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  Speaker 1: In particular, my beats travel like a vortex up your
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  Speaker 1: spine to the top of your That's that's my that's
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  Speaker 1: my goal to hit you bam And I'm good. What
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  Speaker 1: do I time you listening to your verse on Fourth Chamber?
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  Speaker 1: Because it's so relevant to today. That's why I mean, nah,
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  Speaker 1: I mean I've been I'm back into the study of
• 12:54
  Speaker 1: what of everything over right now? You know this tour, folksore,
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  Speaker 1: we got special guests under je Jews and so it's
• 13:02
  Speaker 1: like this is gonna be a lyrical tool, you know
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  Speaker 1: what I mean. It's gonna be one of those tours
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  Speaker 1: that you know you're gonna get your sweat off guarantee
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  Speaker 1: you gonna get your jumps, You're gonna get your your classics.
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  Speaker 1: But it's gonna be those moments you're gonna be like.
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  Speaker 1: I needed that, you know what I mean, because because
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  Speaker 1: you know words in the beginning was the word, and
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  Speaker 1: the word became flesh, you know what I mean. And
• 13:24
  Speaker 1: so those words are healing, you know what I mean.
• 13:26
  Speaker 1: It's like and and you know we needed. I had
• 13:30
  Speaker 1: something I was gonna say to y'all this morning. A
• 13:32
  Speaker 1: law segregation and discrimination is a sickness to any nation.
• 13:36
  Speaker 1: When you deny a portion of the population the chance
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  Speaker 1: to experience the elevation, it will only lead to the
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  Speaker 1: decimation of your system and the next generation will pay
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  Speaker 1: for the mistake that will result in economic inflation, ghetto living,
• 13:51
  Speaker 1: and it's in black Latinos and European immigrants stuffed inside
• 13:54
  Speaker 1: housing tenements, low income recipients. They gotta choose between the
• 13:59
  Speaker 1: food or the rent. Neighborhoods are cramped like pow camps
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  Speaker 1: and X mark the spot where the incitious policies were stamped.
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  Speaker 1: Bad health, increase in bad policing, and the's gentrification that
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  Speaker 1: Michael and Brad is leasing at night. They feel fright
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  Speaker 1: from the dimly lit street lights. My man, gee, he
• 14:18
  Speaker 1: could beef and fight, but he couldn't eat right. Loud
• 14:22
  Speaker 1: sounds echoing gunshots. He couldn't sleep right. While what a
• 14:25
  Speaker 1: life when your life ain't worried for a loaf of
• 14:27
  Speaker 1: bread or a box of white rice. Yeah, blessed be
• 14:31
  Speaker 1: the meek. It's attorney of the cheek. But j Bonde
• 14:35
  Speaker 1: just knocked them out with a sneaky right and put
• 14:37
  Speaker 1: them off his feet. It could come last, it could
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  Speaker 1: come fast. In the blast knock your senses back to
• 14:43
  Speaker 1: the past. It's like old popping sounds, a big brass
• 14:46
  Speaker 1: section you hear from old jazz. Me I stick to
• 14:49
  Speaker 1: a piano key speak from a low a minor to
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  Speaker 1: a soprano. E bob, it's the abodem C. What's different.
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  Speaker 1: That's something just there city money. That's something I was saying,
• 15:04
  Speaker 1: share something here in the in the in the phone,
• 15:06
  Speaker 1: in the phone book.
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  Speaker 2: You're getting back in the booth.
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  Speaker 1: Didn't because it sounds like you you ready, it ain't
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  Speaker 1: you know whether it's in the booth or not. This tour,
• 15:14
  Speaker 1: like I said, this is like this is that moment
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  Speaker 1: for for the WO to that w that wisdom that
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  Speaker 1: you that unpredictability, like let's let's get that back into
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  Speaker 1: the system. You know, I honestly feel that WO is
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  Speaker 1: like a part of hip hop culture that's needed, you
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  Speaker 1: know what I mean. And whether we could be the
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  Speaker 1: ones that continue to physically do it, or some young
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  Speaker 1: brothers are listening, they pick it up and they come
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  Speaker 1: and bring that wave like there's a there's some young
• 15:41
  Speaker 1: brothers I know, Coach Contra, I've been seeing them. Yeah,
• 15:45
  Speaker 1: you know what I mean, good flows, good style, good everything.
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  Speaker 1: If they once they start injecting a little more wisdom
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  Speaker 1: into that, you know what I mean. You know, hip
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  Speaker 1: hop needs that, you know what I mean. It ain't
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  Speaker 1: all just about uh you know, all our money, guns
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  Speaker 1: and sex and drugs, you know what I mean. That's
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  Speaker 1: a portion of it, but it's not the it's not
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  Speaker 1: all of it. I saw you say something recently where
• 16:07
  Speaker 1: you said Hot ninety seven Bannon Wutang's music contributed to
• 16:12
  Speaker 1: I guess, not just the decline of the group, but
• 16:13
  Speaker 1: just the decline of New York sound and every ante.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, you know, we could date that, you know
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  Speaker 1: what I mean, We could look at it and see
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  Speaker 1: it happening. Because when you're dealing with business, right, like
• 16:25
  Speaker 1: all of us, you know, we we got jobs, right,
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  Speaker 1: and so we got to come in and do our job.
• 16:29
  Speaker 1: If the dude say they paint it blue, and you
• 16:32
  Speaker 1: the painter, you got painted blue, right, even though you know,
• 16:36
  Speaker 1: like man, this blue was gonna really turn everybody away,
• 16:39
  Speaker 1: or its really the paint got let in it or whatever,
• 16:42
  Speaker 1: you still got to stick to the job. And I
• 16:44
  Speaker 1: think like at that time, you know, and even maybe
• 16:48
  Speaker 1: people were scared to fight for each other, you know
• 16:51
  Speaker 1: what I mean, And that's been one of our issues
• 16:53
  Speaker 1: I think as our culture, right. You know, there was
• 16:57
  Speaker 1: a point when the culture started because of money, we
• 17:01
  Speaker 1: did started accepting each other. I remember when when like
• 17:04
  Speaker 1: Master peeing them will come to New York and we
• 17:06
  Speaker 1: accepted that, you know what I mean, when Dre and
• 17:09
  Speaker 1: Snoop and Ice Cube, we accepted it. You know, Uh,
• 17:12
  Speaker 1: first we accept it from the music, right, and that
• 17:15
  Speaker 1: be that's private. But then when the money, when somebody's
• 17:17
  Speaker 1: blowing money, then you accept it because of the money.
• 17:20
  Speaker 1: And so now you admire them because of his money,
• 17:22
  Speaker 1: but not because of his skill, because of the culture,
• 17:25
  Speaker 1: you know what I mean. So when that starts happening,
• 17:27
  Speaker 1: it's almost like, uh, now you're you're you're diminished in
• 17:31
  Speaker 1: the culture because of the money. So, yeah, a dude
• 17:34
  Speaker 1: could make a hit at the end of the day,
• 17:36
  Speaker 1: we talk about hip hop hits. Hammer Hammer had hits. Baby, Yeah, okay,
• 17:44
  Speaker 1: he was. He was going diamond, you know what I mean,
• 17:47
  Speaker 1: and and and and people didn't accept that as hip
• 17:49
  Speaker 1: hop for some reason back then, even roasting that, right,
• 17:52
  Speaker 1: even roasting that And I know I was pretty hard
• 17:56
  Speaker 1: on him by myself, so I'm not like I wasn't,
• 17:58
  Speaker 1: you know, because I was on some right, But we
• 18:01
  Speaker 1: don't even give him his accolades. So he opened the
• 18:03
  Speaker 1: door at the end of the day, right for commercials,
• 18:07
  Speaker 1: we did all that. But yeah, yeah you're out Pete
• 18:09
  Speaker 1: like like see, that's why I say a law is
• 18:11
  Speaker 1: motion for he gives. He takes a floor, like like
• 18:16
  Speaker 1: you could take Like, let me give you a quick metaphor.
• 18:19
  Speaker 1: I won't go too deep, but let's look at you
• 18:21
  Speaker 1: of our greatest, our greatest artists, right fifty cents right,
• 18:26
  Speaker 1: and I'm gonna say yay, right, both caught a floor
• 18:33
  Speaker 1: in their jaw. Right, one from a car, some one
• 18:38
  Speaker 1: from a tragic street incident, but both now develop a
• 18:43
  Speaker 1: tone that attracts the world. So from a floor and
• 18:48
  Speaker 1: the jaw, you know what I mean, a lot blesses
• 18:53
  Speaker 1: them more. It's like it's like it's like, nah, now
• 18:55
  Speaker 1: you come back, and it's like this whole swag's whole
• 18:59
  Speaker 1: everything is. It's sharpened without even knowing, so hip hop itself.
• 19:04
  Speaker 1: They say the DJ the dude was like he said
• 19:07
  Speaker 1: he was in his crib, one of the old DJ's right,
• 19:09
  Speaker 1: he's in the crib and and his mom's coming and
• 19:12
  Speaker 1: he holds the record. Huh, and she's like, you know,
• 19:16
  Speaker 1: turn it down, blah blah blah. It's like holding it
• 19:21
  Speaker 1: now the scratch is invented. That's crazy, you know what
• 19:24
  Speaker 1: I mean. From a floor, I remember Easy Mob was
• 19:28
  Speaker 1: talking to was doing a similar siminar. I was there,
• 19:30
  Speaker 1: was gambling Hugh and he was saying like, Yo, how
• 19:35
  Speaker 1: do you guys get that one part of the song
• 19:37
  Speaker 1: that that that high hat? I think, and for the
• 19:39
  Speaker 1: Love of Money or one of their songs like those
• 19:41
  Speaker 1: hard hats, Like when it dropped out right there, I
• 19:43
  Speaker 1: sampled it. I used it in all my beasts, and
• 19:46
  Speaker 1: I think mister Gamble was like, oh that was a mistake. Wow.
• 19:50
  Speaker 1: So even from a mistake, right, we've given a chance
• 19:54
  Speaker 1: to to to to multiply and to make something great.
• 19:59
  Speaker 1: Yeah what was yours? Man? So many? To be quite frank,
• 20:03
  Speaker 1: it's just like sometimes you could go to your to
• 20:07
  Speaker 1: your to your beat machine and it's just glitches out,
• 20:11
  Speaker 1: you know what I mean. I feel like method man.
• 20:13
  Speaker 1: Uh the original drum where it happened was almost like
• 20:17
  Speaker 1: a glitch out. But I liked it. I just like
• 20:20
  Speaker 1: I just did not just immolated it. I immolated the mistake,
• 20:23
  Speaker 1: you know what I mean. But I think it was
• 20:27
  Speaker 1: not that the THEA, thea, like that's the that's the
• 20:31
  Speaker 1: bounce of it. So then so when a guy like
• 20:33
  Speaker 1: him got the gut there on the mic, he he
• 20:35
  Speaker 1: started riding his riding his horse, you know what I mean. So,
• 20:39
  Speaker 1: but there's others too that that that it just happens
• 20:42
  Speaker 1: like that, you know when it will flow, you know,
• 20:46
  Speaker 1: I mean even if you think about Shame right, I
• 20:49
  Speaker 1: mean Dirty came in late to the studio, but he
• 20:55
  Speaker 1: did that verse right one take and things like shame
• 20:59
  Speaker 1: with the bow that was like he just I said no, no, no, no,
• 21:06
  Speaker 1: go through it over soa nah, God, they're gonna love it. Wow.
• 21:10
  Speaker 1: I was like, all right, he was right, he was exactly.
• 21:13
  Speaker 1: I mean I actually actually I learned from that. But
• 21:17
  Speaker 1: one tree through that, but got through all of that.
• 21:21
  Speaker 1: I mean, that's the one thing about Dirty. If you
• 21:23
  Speaker 1: could talk about him for a moment, shout out to
• 21:25
  Speaker 1: y D. B. He'll be on the tour with us.
• 21:27
  Speaker 1: He'll be on Sunday. That's his son, his first born son,
• 21:31
  Speaker 1: bar Son. He'll be on the tour doing his father
• 21:34
  Speaker 1: verses for us. He's been doing it for years and
• 21:36
  Speaker 1: he's been doing a great job. But one thing about
• 21:40
  Speaker 1: Dirty he almost never say the same lyric twice. I mean,
• 21:45
  Speaker 1: say the lyric the same way twice. If he did it,
• 21:50
  Speaker 1: should show me y'all me yeammy yay next time you
• 21:53
  Speaker 1: do it. He's not gonna do it like that. He's
• 21:55
  Speaker 1: almost like a once again, like a jazz musician. He
• 21:58
  Speaker 1: just goes with the berry, you know what I mean,
• 22:01
  Speaker 1: and he'll tell he'll he'll say a rhyme that we
• 22:03
  Speaker 1: wrote when we was fourteen years old, and then he
• 22:06
  Speaker 1: was saying it during the woo era and eating motherfuckers up.
• 22:09
  Speaker 1: Because I'll go out the mic and now damager and
• 22:13
  Speaker 1: listen to his album. That lyric is on the album twice. Yeah, right,
• 22:18
  Speaker 1: because it was more of a performance, more of a
• 22:22
  Speaker 1: energy that he would bring versus just the lyrical content.
• 22:26
  Speaker 1: But he was very special and uh in that uh
• 22:28
  Speaker 1: and I think he helped bring freedom the hip hop expression. Yeah.
• 22:32
  Speaker 1: They used to talk about uh. They said Ji used
• 22:34
  Speaker 1: to write for Dirty sometimes that's true. Yeah, I'm like,
• 22:37
  Speaker 1: how do you write for dirty? Well that's what called
• 22:40
  Speaker 1: because we're cousins, right, so that's always That's like at
• 22:43
  Speaker 1: that table. We used to go to the Jizzer house.
• 22:47
  Speaker 1: You know, this is poverty days, justin may have just
• 22:50
  Speaker 1: you know, one box of old mill and we'll go
• 22:54
  Speaker 1: get some kaiser buns you know New York, that stander Baby,
• 23:01
  Speaker 1: and we're still stay there for three days on oat
• 23:03
  Speaker 1: milon kaiser buns, just making pause tapes and write and
• 23:08
  Speaker 1: writing songs, you know what I mean. Like so even
• 23:10
  Speaker 1: when it says when the MCS came deliver, we made
• 23:13
  Speaker 1: that when we was like fourteen fifteen and what we
• 23:15
  Speaker 1: was doing liquids spars, I was like, yo, let's do
• 23:18
  Speaker 1: that old routine we did at the table and that
• 23:19
  Speaker 1: pause tape and we did it and Bong Bong, you
• 23:23
  Speaker 1: know what do you do you ever.
• 23:26
  Speaker 2: Remember those records that you lost in the flood. Did
• 23:29
  Speaker 2: you ever get any of that or we're able to
• 23:31
  Speaker 2: produce that over or any of that at all?
• 23:34
  Speaker 1: Nothing ever came back like it like it was. Actually,
• 23:37
  Speaker 1: I'm glad you mentioned that, Envy. We're gonna there's a
• 23:40
  Speaker 1: uh we're building this time capsule for the tour, and
• 23:46
  Speaker 1: we're gonna invite our fans, you know, to come out
• 23:49
  Speaker 1: and somebody will win every night where you could take
• 23:51
  Speaker 1: something from your Wu nostalgia or your Woo history and
• 23:56
  Speaker 1: put it in this time capsule and we all know
• 23:58
  Speaker 1: we're gonna put it that it somewhere. I may put
• 24:01
  Speaker 1: it in the museum, but I'm going to collect something
• 24:03
  Speaker 1: from every you know, city, from somebody. But the first
• 24:08
  Speaker 1: thing I'm going to put in there, and I'm not
• 24:11
  Speaker 1: I'm kind of telling you that for the first time
• 24:12
  Speaker 1: because I was gonna surprise. I'm going to take those
• 24:16
  Speaker 1: discs that hadn't inspected Decks album. I'm gonna put it
• 24:19
  Speaker 1: in that time capsule and if somebody find it years
• 24:22
  Speaker 1: later and open it up and figure out that, you know,
• 24:24
  Speaker 1: the technology could get all that or whatever is on it.
• 24:28
  Speaker 1: Shock you don't have that now, there's no technology that
• 24:30
  Speaker 1: can get that now. It hasn't happened. We took uh
• 24:34
  Speaker 1: you know Deck's Matt. You know they they snuck a
• 24:37
  Speaker 1: few out and try to do it. You know what
• 24:39
  Speaker 1: I mean, because uh, it's on floppy disc yo. You
• 24:44
  Speaker 1: know what I mean. They took it to like to
• 24:47
  Speaker 1: the NASA people and then get it, you know what
• 24:49
  Speaker 1: I mean. Yeah, he's the one who suffered the most
• 24:52
  Speaker 1: from that flood, right, I would say autistically, yes, you
• 24:55
  Speaker 1: know what I mean. Economically everybody suffered. You know, it
• 24:58
  Speaker 1: was two floods. Like I don't know, I was just
• 25:02
  Speaker 1: I was. I just took it like noah, you know
• 25:04
  Speaker 1: what I mean, like wash all your shit away. I've
• 25:09
  Speaker 1: lost more in life than than I've shared. I'm out
• 25:13
  Speaker 1: of the lost phase. Got a good wife, you know
• 25:15
  Speaker 1: what I mean, who know how to keep keep life
• 25:18
  Speaker 1: organized for me and keep the balance. But before yeah,
• 25:22
  Speaker 1: I was definitely known for losing a lot of things.
• 25:25
  Speaker 2: Now, that one album I can't remember his name, that
• 25:27
  Speaker 2: the gentleman bought. Did you ever get that album back?
• 25:31
  Speaker 2: Because I know there was a fight to get it
• 25:33
  Speaker 2: back did you ever get it back?
• 25:34
  Speaker 1: Not personally, but it's owned by a group of people
• 25:38
  Speaker 1: called Please to Dial, and it just it continues to
• 25:46
  Speaker 1: increase in value and have his own life. I mean
• 25:49
  Speaker 1: they bought it for like four million. Uh, and now
• 25:52
  Speaker 1: there's people talking about like a whole other thing of
• 25:55
  Speaker 1: what it could be. So it's kind of one of
• 25:57
  Speaker 1: those things to have a life of his own.
• 25:59
  Speaker 2: We ever gonna it or that's part of the deal
• 26:02
  Speaker 2: that they can never play it publicly.
• 26:04
  Speaker 1: Actually, I'm striving now at this phase since since we're
• 26:08
  Speaker 1: you know, at this age and kind of figure out something.
• 26:12
  Speaker 1: I mean, the thing was there was like not to
• 26:14
  Speaker 1: be it can't be commercialized for eighty eight years, you know.
• 26:19
  Speaker 2: I mean, so it can't be sold, it can't be on,
• 26:21
  Speaker 2: can't can't be commercialized streaming service.
• 26:24
  Speaker 1: You could give it away. I told I told missus
• 26:27
  Speaker 1: Courli that in the beginning, I was like, yo, especially
• 26:31
  Speaker 1: just to give you a little backstory on that, I
• 26:33
  Speaker 1: met him before he became the most evilless man in
• 26:37
  Speaker 1: the world. I remember they had like the most evilest
• 26:39
  Speaker 1: man in the world. So I met him before he
• 26:41
  Speaker 1: became lex luthor. You know what I mean, Figure up
• 26:44
  Speaker 1: and you know, we sat down and he was telling me,
• 26:47
  Speaker 1: you know, he you know, I'm a wool fan. I
• 26:49
  Speaker 1: love fifty cent, I love hip hop of May Kwan.
• 26:53
  Speaker 1: You know some of some of his lyrics has made
• 26:56
  Speaker 1: me through business things. And he had a whole plan.
• 26:59
  Speaker 1: He was going to buy this Enigma machine. I don't
• 27:02
  Speaker 1: know if you know what the Enigma machines. Those are
• 27:04
  Speaker 1: the decoding machines they used to make uh in World
• 27:07
  Speaker 1: War Two when they had to figure out in fact
• 27:12
  Speaker 1: it led to the computer. So he wants to the
• 27:15
  Speaker 1: and all the turning papers. Who was the guy who
• 27:17
  Speaker 1: basically invented the computer? He was he was in the
• 27:20
  Speaker 1: WU album. He was like, I'm gonna get all these
• 27:22
  Speaker 1: things and he's gonna do something. I was like, okay,
• 27:26
  Speaker 1: what the you gonna do? But he had a plan.
• 27:28
  Speaker 1: Whatever he was going to do. Boom. And then when
• 27:32
  Speaker 1: he when went negative on him, like maybe a few
• 27:34
  Speaker 1: months later, I saw it on TV. I saw him
• 27:36
  Speaker 1: on the news. I said, I was telling him my wife, Yo,
• 27:38
  Speaker 1: that's the guy that'd be selling the album too. I
• 27:41
  Speaker 1: wouldn't sell it to him. I said, oh no, it's
• 27:43
  Speaker 1: already like a deal. Even though it wasn't the money
• 27:47
  Speaker 1: didn't exchange hands. It was already a deal and was
• 27:49
  Speaker 1: in contract for him. So I was say, nah, I
• 27:52
  Speaker 1: mean I sat down with him, I told him yes
• 27:54
  Speaker 1: and so so now that it's at the day that
• 27:58
  Speaker 1: he gets it and know he got a lot of
• 28:01
  Speaker 1: security everything, you know, and they kind of he had
• 28:03
  Speaker 1: some big dudes with him, and uh, I just said,
• 28:07
  Speaker 1: let me talk to him moment by himself committing kid,
• 28:10
  Speaker 1: He's still a kid to me, And I'm like, yo, listen,
• 28:13
  Speaker 1: if I was you, I was just get us a
• 28:16
  Speaker 1: way to the world, like do something good because people
• 28:19
  Speaker 1: were saying, like you're bad right now. He was like
• 28:23
  Speaker 1: just smiled at me and went worse. Yeah. So but
• 28:29
  Speaker 1: I think that that would be a beautiful thing if
• 28:31
  Speaker 1: if it was a way to give it or you know, yeah,
• 28:36
  Speaker 1: I just think it's it'll be nice to share it.
• 28:39
  Speaker 1: You know. If Wu Tang was starting to day, how
• 28:41
  Speaker 1: do you think the industry would treat a group like
• 28:42
  Speaker 1: Wu Tang. I think we'll still break through one we wasn't,
• 28:48
  Speaker 1: you know, remember we came through also like we would
• 28:50
  Speaker 1: rush in the building too. Now. So even though actually
• 28:53
  Speaker 1: think they built the building security because of Wu tang.
• 28:57
  Speaker 1: I'm sure Remotle, you can walk into a label like
• 29:02
  Speaker 1: get in the elevator.
• 29:04
  Speaker 2: Now before there was no front.
• 29:04
  Speaker 1: You can just go right upstairs.
• 29:06
  Speaker 2: Yeah, man, Now boy, you know what security downstairs and man, you.
• 29:12
  Speaker 1: Got all types of But it's like, you know what
• 29:14
  Speaker 1: I mean, black age, No, but no, no, I think
• 29:18
  Speaker 1: beyond all that, right, I think the talent. Man, look
• 29:22
  Speaker 1: at the kind of talent you got in the world.
• 29:24
  Speaker 1: You can see the talent. The proof of it is
• 29:26
  Speaker 1: just like even method Man's going to go ahead and
• 29:28
  Speaker 1: be a star. Ghost is going to go ahead and
• 29:31
  Speaker 1: be a star, you know what I mean. So it's
• 29:32
  Speaker 1: just like you couldn't I couldn't deny it. Expect the Deck,
• 29:35
  Speaker 1: who's up who don't get the credit as he should?
• 29:38
  Speaker 1: I think far as star level. I mean I won't
• 29:41
  Speaker 1: to say as far as star level because the fans
• 29:43
  Speaker 1: go crazy when he comes on stage, but I mean
• 29:46
  Speaker 1: far as within our industry, separating all those top names
• 29:50
  Speaker 1: we mentioned. Expect the Deck got some of the best
• 29:52
  Speaker 1: verses in hip hop history. It's not even close, you
• 29:54
  Speaker 1: know what I mean. And it's just like, okay, so,
• 29:57
  Speaker 1: but that talent is right there. His talent is what
• 30:01
  Speaker 1: the first thing you hear when you hear woo, the
• 30:03
  Speaker 1: first thing you hear I smoke on the mic, like smoking,
• 30:05
  Speaker 1: Joe freezing you like and your meeting your ears? Oh wow,
• 30:09
  Speaker 1: who's this guy? And then you think it's over. Then
• 30:11
  Speaker 1: another guy comes in he got it going on, like
• 30:14
  Speaker 1: oh wow, who's this guy? So I think the talent
• 30:18
  Speaker 1: will always break through, just like just like when you
• 30:20
  Speaker 1: see other talents, uh in our industry right now that
• 30:24
  Speaker 1: just have something that you know, know, you know, you
• 30:26
  Speaker 1: know Tyler in the our future, Tyler the creator and
• 30:29
  Speaker 1: his whole crew. Like den I couldn't when Frank Ocean
• 30:33
  Speaker 1: album came out. He was like, oh yo, it was
• 30:38
  Speaker 1: just on me, Pete.
• 30:40
  Speaker 2: Now on this tour bus, will there be a studio
• 30:42
  Speaker 2: on the bus? I'm sure with your mind there will
• 30:44
  Speaker 2: be a studio on the bus.
• 30:46
  Speaker 1: Yeah, well, actually there's a bush. So John Lennon, right,
• 30:50
  Speaker 1: John Lennon, his foundation has a bus called the John
• 30:53
  Speaker 1: Lennon Bus, which they use for a lot of education purposes.
• 30:57
  Speaker 1: And I had to travel with us on the last tour,
• 31:00
  Speaker 1: and I'm gonna have a travel in this store. So
• 31:01
  Speaker 1: it's not only a studio, but it's like when you
• 31:04
  Speaker 1: use it. It helps kids in the cities and all that,
• 31:07
  Speaker 1: and they take it around the world and teach music
• 31:10
  Speaker 1: education and continue John Lennon's legacy. You know, imagine all
• 31:16
  Speaker 1: the people living life is one right, Yeah, John Lennon,
• 31:21
  Speaker 1: that was that was crazy. I want to ask you
• 31:23
  Speaker 1: about the Fourth Chamber versus spit okay, because it's so
• 31:26
  Speaker 1: relevant today because you talk about you know, government control,
• 31:29
  Speaker 1: economic inequality, medium manipulation, all of that. Where when you
• 31:33
  Speaker 1: wrote that, was that prophecy or was that what you
• 31:35
  Speaker 1: were seeing at the time? A little bit of both? Right?
• 31:39
  Speaker 1: As an artist, like like, it's easy to say, you
• 31:45
  Speaker 1: know right now, oh yeah, I have some prophecy, but nah,
• 31:48
  Speaker 1: but as an artist you post to tap in right,
• 31:52
  Speaker 1: It's like to be quite frank, everybody is an antenna,
• 31:59
  Speaker 1: you know what I mean. The chemical is a biochemical
• 32:01
  Speaker 1: equation of your physical composition is receiving signals. You could
• 32:06
  Speaker 1: receive a thought right now from your man in la,
• 32:09
  Speaker 1: you know what I mean. Without this, this is kind
• 32:12
  Speaker 1: of a proof of us who grew up without having
• 32:15
  Speaker 1: this much power in our hands, Celliah, right, and that
• 32:19
  Speaker 1: it still sells all in your body, you know what
• 32:21
  Speaker 1: I mean. But as an artist, you get a signal,
• 32:25
  Speaker 1: you feel something. Some people say it woke them out
• 32:27
  Speaker 1: their sleep and they wrote songs. And yesterday heard Paul
• 32:30
  Speaker 1: McCartney say, yesterday he woke up. It was in his
• 32:33
  Speaker 1: dream and that song is forever, right. So I think
• 32:38
  Speaker 1: that I know that myself as an artist, I would
• 32:41
  Speaker 1: always just get hit with a joke of electricity and
• 32:45
  Speaker 1: I would just write. And so of course I was
• 32:48
  Speaker 1: studying at that time as well. You know, a tune
• 32:51
  Speaker 1: with mathematics. Mathematics don't lie, you know what I mean.
• 32:54
  Speaker 1: And it's just like some of the words just you know,
• 32:59
  Speaker 1: just just come to you and you gotta be grateful
• 33:01
  Speaker 1: and you let it out. And sometimes when you hear
• 33:04
  Speaker 1: yourself back, it's not even you're You're actually not. It's
• 33:08
  Speaker 1: like that recording is sometimes it's not you, you feel me.
• 33:13
  Speaker 1: It's almost like third person. That's why experience. That's why
• 33:17
  Speaker 1: I was like Dove Risa, like I mean, it's like
• 33:21
  Speaker 1: it's like it was it's a title, and even even
• 33:24
  Speaker 1: that name it came like that. It was like because
• 33:27
  Speaker 1: I was walking around Prince Rakin, Prince Rakin, it was
• 33:30
  Speaker 1: like the son was like and I might I might
• 33:33
  Speaker 1: have had a good smoke that day. I mean, it
• 33:36
  Speaker 1: was like, yo, dove, risa, what is that? Right? But
• 33:40
  Speaker 1: if you look at my look at the letters, right,
• 33:42
  Speaker 1: the R is why Kim said, it's the eighteenth letter
• 33:46
  Speaker 1: and R is for rule or ruler, So it means
• 33:49
  Speaker 1: you got to start to rule yourself. But a ruler, right,
• 33:54
  Speaker 1: it's not just the action of oh, he's the ruler
• 33:56
  Speaker 1: of the country. You know. A ruler is a measurement
• 33:58
  Speaker 1: device that you much use to measure everything before you
• 34:02
  Speaker 1: get into your square. Right. So now if I measure
• 34:05
  Speaker 1: everything first before I zig, when it's time for me
• 34:10
  Speaker 1: to zag, which could be going in the wrong direction,
• 34:13
  Speaker 1: I know I could always zig back and then that
• 34:15
  Speaker 1: as fa a law and that's that arm leg leg
• 34:20
  Speaker 1: arm head. And so in my life, I was like,
• 34:24
  Speaker 1: it was just time for me to be like I
• 34:25
  Speaker 1: asked to be the rissa. And then then my brother's
• 34:28
  Speaker 1: just like after we started moving, uh, moving our unit,
• 34:34
  Speaker 1: shout out the power, shout out to the vine, shut
• 34:36
  Speaker 1: out to Tarif. Before we start moving our unit, it
• 34:39
  Speaker 1: was like, yo, you the abbot, you know what I mean?
• 34:42
  Speaker 1: All right? That's so that's my title with the who
• 34:45
  Speaker 1: and the Abbot. But the universe gave me that title
• 34:49
  Speaker 1: the Rissa. So I wonder what you see now, like
• 34:52
  Speaker 1: when you see things like like ice raids, and then
• 34:55
  Speaker 1: you think about the Fourth Chamber verse and you was
• 34:57
  Speaker 1: like a hit was sent from the president to raide
• 34:59
  Speaker 1: your residents. You know, when you see stuff like the
• 35:02
  Speaker 1: coronavirus and stuff like that, you say, six million that
• 35:05
  Speaker 1: was just that from the Buboni flu auto bowla virus.
• 35:07
  Speaker 1: You're just speaking about this plague that took over, Like,
• 35:10
  Speaker 1: what do you what do you when you see was
• 35:11
  Speaker 1: what happened over the years and you think about that verse,
• 35:14
  Speaker 1: what do you well, yeah, no, I'd be like yo.
• 35:16
  Speaker 1: At one point, it's like, yeah, the reality is the reality, right,
• 35:20
  Speaker 1: word time time, words take time to materialize, right m
• 35:31
  Speaker 1: so and so we're now we're talking probably listeners talk
• 35:34
  Speaker 1: about Noah. He they said he preached for like three
• 35:38
  Speaker 1: hundred years. It's telling people, y'all, look, we're gonna have
• 35:42
  Speaker 1: to build these arcs and get in the water and go.
• 35:44
  Speaker 1: And they're like, man, first of all, keep in mind
• 35:47
  Speaker 1: he's in the desert talking him I was gonna rain,
• 35:49
  Speaker 1: so nobody they can't believe that. But the time for
• 35:53
  Speaker 1: the world to be materialized. Is the process of going
• 35:59
  Speaker 1: from a thought to a gas, to a liquid to
• 36:04
  Speaker 1: a solid manifestation. Right, So you may say something today
• 36:10
  Speaker 1: that won't manifest hill later. And so some of those
• 36:12
  Speaker 1: lyrics are that. Right. Even more, I think if you
• 36:15
  Speaker 1: go into into this song, impossible, oh my god. So
• 36:20
  Speaker 1: even there, it's like, you know, my verse starts off
• 36:24
  Speaker 1: with fusion of the five elements, right, which is mental
• 36:27
  Speaker 1: and physical. Right, and this is before uh, you know,
• 36:34
  Speaker 1: the strong feminist movement. I was saying that, you know,
• 36:37
  Speaker 1: women are going to be more celibate. H They're not
• 36:41
  Speaker 1: going to be messing with us like that. You know
• 36:42
  Speaker 1: what I'm saying, Ah that something that life will becomes irrelevant.
• 36:46
  Speaker 1: But the benelovent king will communicate to you through your dream, right,
• 36:51
  Speaker 1: so the most how he'll hit you through your dream
• 36:53
  Speaker 1: and give you a mental picture be formed. And then
• 36:56
  Speaker 1: a laws heard it scene everywhere and you're around the
• 36:58
  Speaker 1: atmosphere thermis vest by the fear trappersphere. Can you imagine
• 37:01
  Speaker 1: from one single idea everything appeared here that they're be
• 37:06
  Speaker 1: like that was a single idea, but it took time
• 37:08
  Speaker 1: for all that to grow. Scientists say the Big Bang
• 37:11
  Speaker 1: theory they're talking about I took billions of years. You know,
• 37:14
  Speaker 1: it's been trillions of years for it to grow, right,
• 37:18
  Speaker 1: So a mental picture has been playing a lossow seeing
• 37:21
  Speaker 1: everywhere else. You know, let there be light, and the
• 37:23
  Speaker 1: light is here. So anyway, sometimes you as an artist, right,
• 37:27
  Speaker 1: you know, you go back and look at science fiction,
• 37:30
  Speaker 1: and we watched Genie Roddenberry who created Star Trek, and
• 37:36
  Speaker 1: we're like, yo, wow, he had the flip phone. The
• 37:40
  Speaker 1: next thing, you know, the flip phone is in physical
• 37:43
  Speaker 1: existence versus being an artistic existence. Yeah, you know, it's
• 37:48
  Speaker 1: funny and you're saying impossible because when b Dot did
• 37:50
  Speaker 1: these Summer Reason these top ten best Wu Tang songs,
• 37:53
  Speaker 1: he had number ten Wu Tang and nothing to Fuck
• 37:55
  Speaker 1: With number nine, Win Awards, number eight, Mystery of Chest Boxing,
• 37:58
  Speaker 1: number seven, Reunited, number six, it's your number five, protecting
• 38:01
  Speaker 1: Neck number four? Can it be also simple? Number three?
• 38:03
  Speaker 1: Ice Cream? Number two? Time number one cream. We started
• 38:06
  Speaker 1: flaming them in the group check. We just just just
• 38:08
  Speaker 1: not a good list the list, but they're like very
• 38:13
  Speaker 1: commercialized right there. But we're saying, impossible is one of
• 38:21
  Speaker 1: those songs that should be on there? What do you
• 38:23
  Speaker 1: think of that list. First of all, well, no, the
• 38:25
  Speaker 1: list is up to the to the list maker, you
• 38:27
  Speaker 1: know what I mean.
• 38:28
  Speaker 2: But but he gets that list from online. That's people
• 38:30
  Speaker 2: like that going is online. They hit him while he's
• 38:32
  Speaker 2: doing the live things, not just that.
• 38:33
  Speaker 1: And also that list might be the top ten streamers.
• 38:37
  Speaker 1: At the end of the day, you go and check
• 38:38
  Speaker 1: the top streamers. But those are the commercialized list. Those
• 38:41
  Speaker 1: are the ones that are casual fans. Those are the
• 38:43
  Speaker 1: ones that they Yeah, those are the ones you better perform. Yeah, yeah,
• 38:47
  Speaker 1: you know what I mean. We come there, you better
• 38:49
  Speaker 1: hit us, hit us, and look the beautiful thing is
• 38:51
  Speaker 1: went towards cap came out of nowhere, remember that. I mean,
• 38:56
  Speaker 1: that's some time ago. But once again, talent. Nobody knew
• 38:59
  Speaker 1: that this guy, you know what I mean, We knew him,
• 39:03
  Speaker 1: you know what I mean. I knew that, y'all. He's
• 39:05
  Speaker 1: one of the dopes mcs on it on Staten Island.
• 39:07
  Speaker 1: While we was growing up, me and him always had
• 39:09
  Speaker 1: tapes together, like we had our tapes were circulating before
• 39:12
  Speaker 1: who had tapes, you know what I mean. That's why
• 39:14
  Speaker 1: he's like me and reservoir name punting in the tablet
• 39:18
  Speaker 1: under under under vets. We paid our desks for mad years.
• 39:22
  Speaker 1: He was like, we was already having tapes. The other
• 39:24
  Speaker 1: brothers was doing that thing. But he comes out of
• 39:27
  Speaker 1: the out of the now and uh you God brings
• 39:31
  Speaker 1: them to the crib and you know, boom. I was
• 39:35
  Speaker 1: just happy to see him, you know, because capa Donna
• 39:37
  Speaker 1: is his name at first was original legit, I mean original, right,
• 39:41
  Speaker 1: So I was the original, you know what I mean.
• 39:44
  Speaker 1: And he was like, you know, his slang is ridiculous.
• 39:47
  Speaker 1: I mean he's like, you know Donna. J Bird thinks
• 39:51
  Speaker 1: that capp of Donna. I was like, it wasn't no
• 39:54
  Speaker 1: cap of Donna street on Staten Island. Yet like maybe
• 39:57
  Speaker 1: five years later there's like a cap of Donna name
• 40:00
  Speaker 1: got the I didn't. I didn't know what cap of
• 40:01
  Speaker 1: Donna was. Well, I think it's like it's like the
• 40:07
  Speaker 1: leader of of of of the of the Policethood or
• 40:10
  Speaker 1: something like that, you know what I mean. Yeah, because
• 40:13
  Speaker 1: there's a cap of Donna in the Catholic I think
• 40:16
  Speaker 1: in the Catholic religion there's something that's cap Donna. Yeah,
• 40:22
  Speaker 1: they had no drums, man. It was like a baseline
• 40:24
  Speaker 1: missing from winning war. Like when you turn it. No,
• 40:27
  Speaker 1: the drum, the drum, Yeah, the drums was filtered, was filtered.
• 40:30
  Speaker 1: The drums was filtered out with something. Something caused the
• 40:35
  Speaker 1: filter the phase and I left it. That was one
• 40:38
  Speaker 1: of those mistakes that you were talking about. Yeah, like
• 40:41
  Speaker 1: the filter phased out, and I was just like, I
• 40:43
  Speaker 1: just loved the verses and I love the energy of
• 40:47
  Speaker 1: the vibe of what was happening. But here's a man
• 40:50
  Speaker 1: that comes out, drops his thirty two bars it wasn't
• 40:53
  Speaker 1: a sixteen, and goes on to become a gold artist
• 40:58
  Speaker 1: from one verse. He's just like I would give it
• 41:00
  Speaker 1: expect a z on Nas like he had one verse
• 41:03
  Speaker 1: on nas joint, goes on, goes on to become a
• 41:07
  Speaker 1: yeah yeah it comes on and become a historical hip
• 41:09
  Speaker 1: hop artist. MC Kwamega. He just had to mention no, yeah,
• 41:15
  Speaker 1: one love Love, come come home and got a record deal.
• 41:18
  Speaker 1: That's the that's the power of hip hop. Y'all. How
• 41:21
  Speaker 1: did you what made y'all let Cappadonna go so long?
• 41:23
  Speaker 1: Did he write it or he already have it? He
• 41:25
  Speaker 1: just went in there and did it and just keep it. Yeah,
• 41:27
  Speaker 1: he just eded out. He aired out. I mean, he
• 41:30
  Speaker 1: hit it out you can't when you you know, back
• 41:33
  Speaker 1: in the day when even now, I guess, when you're
• 41:35
  Speaker 1: hearing something and you just hearing it and it's just
• 41:38
  Speaker 1: you can't stop listening. It's like it's like when young
• 41:41
  Speaker 1: Doug and what's like his young Doug Gucci and I
• 41:47
  Speaker 1: think it's Travis on that song Floyd Floyd Mayweather. It's
• 41:52
  Speaker 1: a long song. Yeah, I rocked the whole song all
• 41:54
  Speaker 1: the way through this. They're just they're just going in,
• 41:57
  Speaker 1: They're just going I'm like, yo, I play that, I'm
• 42:00
  Speaker 1: headed home. But I mean I still played as long
• 42:03
  Speaker 1: as probably was five seven years old now, but they
• 42:06
  Speaker 1: aired it out. It's just like that's what it is.
• 42:08
  Speaker 1: When you hear something that airs it out. You can't.
• 42:10
  Speaker 1: You can't, you don't. Don't cut it.
• 42:12
  Speaker 2: Do you remember some of those legendary battles in the studios,
• 42:15
  Speaker 2: some of that you people might not know off that
• 42:17
  Speaker 2: you're there one day and this it might be this
• 42:19
  Speaker 2: ortist and this, and they just going back and forth
• 42:21
  Speaker 2: and it's disgusting but great.
• 42:23
  Speaker 1: I mean yeah, I mean far as Wool competition. One
• 42:28
  Speaker 1: thing I love about my brother is that it could
• 42:30
  Speaker 1: get all the way up to fuck you it could
• 42:35
  Speaker 1: get that tense and and everything's cool.
• 42:40
  Speaker 2: Who's the worst with that?
• 42:41
  Speaker 1: That always gets personal and it I mean you can
• 42:44
  Speaker 1: guess that you got yeah the grouch, the grouch come on,
• 42:52
  Speaker 1: because he's unfiltered. You don't give a fuck, you know
• 42:55
  Speaker 1: what I mean? And you know yeah, you know yeahay,
• 42:59
  Speaker 1: Dirty would have been like that too. Oh dirty, But
• 43:02
  Speaker 1: see what think about? No? The thing about Dirty though, right,
• 43:05
  Speaker 1: because Dirty was like that, you know what I mean.
• 43:08
  Speaker 1: I mean, I mean, man, dirty, yeah, but Dirty. I
• 43:13
  Speaker 1: think with him it was it was it was always
• 43:16
  Speaker 1: like I guess, like he's like like he'll yeo yeo, yell,
• 43:22
  Speaker 1: get you, get you hyped up, and then kiss you
• 43:25
  Speaker 1: on your nose. You see what I mean. That's something
• 43:28
  Speaker 1: magical about that, you know what I mean? And so
• 43:31
  Speaker 1: so so for him, it's always like you can't help,
• 43:34
  Speaker 1: but like that's crazy. I love this dude, yo, you
• 43:37
  Speaker 1: know what I mean? Well, uie, No, it wasn't no kiss.
• 43:42
  Speaker 1: It's like it's like it's like this and ship and
• 43:48
  Speaker 1: actually somebody else does he gotta slot slow it down?
• 43:53
  Speaker 1: You know what I mean? Who's that person? Who's who's
• 43:54
  Speaker 1: the It could be anybody like like I think Master Tiller, Uh,
• 43:59
  Speaker 1: I mean the knife member declinent. I think he's he's
• 44:01
  Speaker 1: he's he's always been, uh a balancer. Yeah, in fact,
• 44:08
  Speaker 1: shout out the Master Killer. He's working on a new
• 44:09
  Speaker 1: album called Balance right now. I think that also. I
• 44:13
  Speaker 1: think another MC once again. He just had those eight
• 44:18
  Speaker 1: balls on chest boxing, you know what I mean? But
• 44:21
  Speaker 1: yet mm hmm built the career. Who's your favorite m and?
• 44:25
  Speaker 1: Who think? I mean the Jizza is the is, the is,
• 44:28
  Speaker 1: the is the head man. You know, I argue with
• 44:32
  Speaker 1: people if you want to argue, you know, and especially
• 44:37
  Speaker 1: at that time, if you go and check the Jius
• 44:40
  Speaker 1: lyrics and his catalog the lyrics, I don't think you're
• 44:41
  Speaker 1: gonna find no other m C. You know that that
• 44:48
  Speaker 1: have given that compared to him lyrically. I mean I
• 44:51
  Speaker 1: put as my favorite MC, and and the way that
• 44:55
  Speaker 1: he approached the mic and and the things that he's done.
• 44:59
  Speaker 1: You think about label back then, Well, he's using every label,
• 45:04
  Speaker 1: but he's telling you a cohesive, clear story, you know
• 45:08
  Speaker 1: what I mean, with metaphors and wit and yeah, and
• 45:12
  Speaker 1: then he goes on to do it again with Fame,
• 45:14
  Speaker 1: and then he goes on and do it with Animal Planet.
• 45:17
  Speaker 1: You know when he did it with Animal Planet, which
• 45:19
  Speaker 1: was crazy because he just use all the football teams
• 45:22
  Speaker 1: and we're talking about how the Jaguars against the Lions,
• 45:25
  Speaker 1: and I was like, yo, that was like justus. He's
• 45:29
  Speaker 1: d but he takes him It might take him like
• 45:33
  Speaker 1: a year to write a verse like that. He won't
• 45:36
  Speaker 1: write it like like ray Hits, you hit the pin
• 45:39
  Speaker 1: and be done in an hour and it shit be
• 45:42
  Speaker 1: fly marvelous, fly shit, you know what I mean. The
• 45:46
  Speaker 1: just it's like he's still working on it, like he
• 45:51
  Speaker 1: got songs he's still been working on for ten years.
• 45:53
  Speaker 1: Because he won't. He won't say it if he done,
• 45:56
  Speaker 1: if he done something quick, he'll do it just because
• 45:59
  Speaker 1: he asked to do it. But that's not that's not
• 46:02
  Speaker 1: his best intention as an His intention as an MC
• 46:06
  Speaker 1: is to make it almost biblical or something like almost
• 46:11
  Speaker 1: like everything is. There's no filler, no words of feeling
• 46:16
  Speaker 1: the ideas.
• 46:16
  Speaker 2: You know, do we need another another Wou Tang type
• 46:20
  Speaker 2: group or person to break the mold? Like you think
• 46:24
  Speaker 2: about when Protecting that came out. That was so unlike
• 46:27
  Speaker 2: the mold that ever came out right. It was it
• 46:28
  Speaker 2: was no real hook. There was just versus. It didn't
• 46:32
  Speaker 2: even start with the verses started what you like, It
• 46:34
  Speaker 2: was just totally left, but it caught. Do you think
• 46:37
  Speaker 2: we need something like that to break the mold because
• 46:39
  Speaker 2: everything is starting to sound monotonous.
• 46:42
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you always need a fresh jold of energy. And
• 46:46
  Speaker 1: I think we're gonna get it. Man. It's MC's or
• 46:48
  Speaker 1: artists right now, just that's in their college dorm, or
• 46:52
  Speaker 1: in their mom's crib or even in the in the projects,
• 46:56
  Speaker 1: you know, with better equipment than we had right with
• 46:58
  Speaker 1: his laptop or whatever, and they and they just they're
• 47:02
  Speaker 1: just cooking and they're gonna come and show us. I
• 47:05
  Speaker 1: also have a small prediction for hip hop, Like I
• 47:10
  Speaker 1: think that hip hop will get us. We'll get the
• 47:14
  Speaker 1: we'll get the it's like before we was. There's been
• 47:18
  Speaker 1: a lot of dratifying of gangsterism, right, I think hip
• 47:24
  Speaker 1: hop will now get artists that they don't they was.
• 47:27
  Speaker 1: They weren't drug dealers, they're not criminals. They've studied this art,
• 47:33
  Speaker 1: they've studied they lived hip hop in their form uh,
• 47:38
  Speaker 1: and they're going to bring a wave that won't feel
• 47:41
  Speaker 1: so threatening. And we had that And I'm not saying
• 47:44
  Speaker 1: that they wasn't from the streets, right, but think of
• 47:46
  Speaker 1: Dayla and Trip right, think of Black Sheep and km
• 47:53
  Speaker 1: D most think of most Death and Tyler, right. But
• 47:57
  Speaker 1: I was even going earlier than them because they come after.
• 48:00
  Speaker 1: It goes like that that they kind of most Definitely, Yeah,
• 48:03
  Speaker 1: you know what I mean. I feel like we just
• 48:04
  Speaker 1: had that though the last fifteen years. Really if you
• 48:06
  Speaker 1: think about it, because you think about the Kendricks, the Drakes,
• 48:09
  Speaker 1: the j Coles, the Willets, the Big Sean, the Chance,
• 48:12
  Speaker 1: the Rappers, the Raps, these like they not on that
• 48:15
  Speaker 1: they've been the top guys. And yeah, I guess you're right,
• 48:20
  Speaker 1: but but I'm still I think it's something else different though,
• 48:22
  Speaker 1: because they they they I still think it's more like,
• 48:26
  Speaker 1: how can I put it that it ain't just that
• 48:31
  Speaker 1: not from the streets, it's it's it's still another spoonful
• 48:35
  Speaker 1: of that's missing, like another spoonful of like the multi
• 48:40
  Speaker 1: layer Okay, the fashion of it. Right, So out of
• 48:45
  Speaker 1: those you name, who has the fashion the fashion I
• 48:49
  Speaker 1: don't know, maybe I guess maybe maybe, maybe, I don't.
• 48:54
  Speaker 2: Know know, I mean, it's big fashion and influential. I
• 48:57
  Speaker 2: don't think any of those guys exactly as far as influence,
• 49:00
  Speaker 2: I don't think.
• 49:00
  Speaker 1: Only maybe a SAP definitely okay, But then a SAP
• 49:06
  Speaker 1: gives you the streets and the fashion, right you see.
• 49:08
  Speaker 1: I mean I'm talking about where it'll be. They can
• 49:13
  Speaker 1: they can fight it because they they've been training their
• 49:16
  Speaker 1: whole life, uh in some some uh some class. They
• 49:20
  Speaker 1: could play the instruments because they've been playing the instruments.
• 49:24
  Speaker 1: They got a college degree because their parents they don't
• 49:26
  Speaker 1: go to college. They love hip hop. They know they
• 49:29
  Speaker 1: could quote Slick Rick, you know what I mean, They
• 49:32
  Speaker 1: could quote Kendrick. You know what I mean, they could
• 49:35
  Speaker 1: do all of that.
• 49:36
  Speaker 2: Artists from the hood, but that's not hood, not not
• 49:38
  Speaker 2: gangs to win to college, got the degree, but study
• 49:40
  Speaker 2: hip and.
• 49:41
  Speaker 1: Maybe not from the hood. Maybe he's from the uh college,
• 49:49
  Speaker 1: that's definitely, that's right, right clods is that uh? But
• 49:54
  Speaker 1: they're not the fashion definitely not the fashion. No, no, no,
• 49:59
  Speaker 1: it's so I'm just saying, I think there's a generation
• 50:01
  Speaker 1: of him that's going to come through that that they
• 50:04
  Speaker 1: could have been as beautiful as an R and B
• 50:07
  Speaker 1: artist this use that right, as witty as a hip
• 50:10
  Speaker 1: hop artist, as focused as a I don't know, it's
• 50:17
  Speaker 1: is called a fashion artist, right and yet physically powerful
• 50:24
  Speaker 1: as ghost Face Killer. There's only one.
• 50:26
  Speaker 2: There's only one like that, Kanye. He's the only one
• 50:29
  Speaker 2: that's not from the hood, very fashionable, very influenced. He
• 50:33
  Speaker 2: was not spitting gangster, but he No, he.
• 50:34
  Speaker 1: Don't got the physical like he's not intimidating, but but
• 50:39
  Speaker 1: he but he is a pioneer of that particular that
• 50:44
  Speaker 1: you gotta like Kendrick though for me, of course. Listen,
• 50:48
  Speaker 1: one of kendricks first samples on his early songs, it
• 50:52
  Speaker 1: was he sampled me and I cleared it for free,
• 50:55
  Speaker 1: you know what I mean? Say I keep that, you
• 50:57
  Speaker 1: know what I mean? Yeah, And that's listen, he was
• 51:00
  Speaker 1: it just before he was about to go to the
• 51:02
  Speaker 1: top of the world. I just heard it. You know
• 51:05
  Speaker 1: he's spending it's the dope m C. Yeah. I gave
• 51:08
  Speaker 1: Kendrick the credit ten years ago. I mean, and uh,
• 51:12
  Speaker 1: and it's only gotten better.
• 51:14
  Speaker 2: Yeah, And Run the Jewels is the perfect fit. But
• 51:17
  Speaker 2: but why did you choose Run the Jewels? Was it
• 51:19
  Speaker 2: something that you had him on the roll before.
• 51:22
  Speaker 1: I was Running jew We did a show with them,
• 51:24
  Speaker 1: We did two shows with them before and and and
• 51:28
  Speaker 1: this this may sound like they're like they're like, to me,
• 51:34
  Speaker 1: running Jewels are like raised against the machine. I think
• 51:38
  Speaker 1: about that for a moment. They are like, you know,
• 51:46
  Speaker 1: their lyrics and they're they're having fun of course, but
• 51:49
  Speaker 1: they're also politically conscious. Their fans are like diehard like
• 51:57
  Speaker 1: diehard Wolf fans. They and the energy we did. We
• 52:02
  Speaker 1: did two shows with him. It was like and we
• 52:04
  Speaker 1: was like, oh, Ship, you know what I mean. It's
• 52:06
  Speaker 1: like it's like it's like I didn't know how big
• 52:09
  Speaker 1: raising the machine was because I'm in my bubble. But
• 52:13
  Speaker 1: when I when when we was in Europe, there was like,
• 52:16
  Speaker 1: you should go see these guys. And I went and
• 52:18
  Speaker 1: saw them. I was like, oh, Ship, that's the energy
• 52:21
  Speaker 1: that I love. Yeah, this put those energies together. It
• 52:25
  Speaker 1: was the same thing with one of the Jewels. They
• 52:27
  Speaker 1: had twenty thousand going crazy, you know what I mean.
• 52:30
  Speaker 1: I was like, oh shit. Even though I know killing
• 52:33
  Speaker 1: Mike for years, you know, from his first gold album.
• 52:36
  Speaker 1: Uh you know, of course everybody loved Michael, but just
• 52:41
  Speaker 1: took Mike on too back in the day. Yeah, yeah, no,
• 52:44
  Speaker 1: Mike said that just a took him on to a game.
• 52:48
  Speaker 1: God by the game. Yeah, he said Jesus, He's he said,
• 52:50
  Speaker 1: just a pioneered them, just one of those dudes that really,
• 52:54
  Speaker 1: you know, sparked In's brand. But yeah, they did. This
• 52:58
  Speaker 1: is a this is a nice like I said, this
• 53:00
  Speaker 1: is a lyrical combination right here, and yeah, we talked
• 53:05
  Speaker 1: about it for almost a year and then bunk here
• 53:08
  Speaker 1: living it. What's the most underrated Wu Tang song that
• 53:11
  Speaker 1: you think deserves more love? And that when y'all performed
• 53:15
  Speaker 1: on tour, everybody just goes crazy. Well depending where you're at, right,
• 53:19
  Speaker 1: But I know one Wu Tang songs that definitely seem
• 53:22
  Speaker 1: like I don't think New York has ever even heard it.
• 53:25
  Speaker 1: Gravel Pit. Oh of course that was with the video y'all.
• 53:29
  Speaker 1: Just like the Flintstones and all that. Yeah, yeah, exactly,
• 53:31
  Speaker 1: all the fur coats and all that. But man, overseas,
• 53:35
  Speaker 1: you could play it twice in the in the concert,
• 53:37
  Speaker 1: I love it, Yeah, but in New York play that,
• 53:43
  Speaker 1: you know what I mean, somebody get mad that come on,
• 53:45
  Speaker 1: like go to somebody stop frowning at you? Like, yo, God,
• 53:47
  Speaker 1: who your math? Like doing my verse? Whether the video
• 53:56
  Speaker 1: or just if you know what it was a it
• 53:58
  Speaker 1: was a I think it was I think I was reaching.
• 54:02
  Speaker 1: I was like, I attempted to make a song in
• 54:05
  Speaker 1: the reserve way that was like poppy commercial radio. Yeah,
• 54:11
  Speaker 1: but we never needed that, I know, but I didn't
• 54:13
  Speaker 1: know what the hi of the backstory of that song
• 54:16
  Speaker 1: real quick, know that song was. It was it was
• 54:18
  Speaker 1: meant for Leah. So Leah, we was in the studio,
• 54:23
  Speaker 1: you know, we talked about it and I said, I
• 54:25
  Speaker 1: wanted to have this whole Flenchtone concept and have you
• 54:27
  Speaker 1: dressed up like like Betty, Yeah, like pebbles, pebbles, but
• 54:33
  Speaker 1: you know, because a little you know, such in great
• 54:35
  Speaker 1: shape and all that. And I just had this whole
• 54:38
  Speaker 1: plan and she was to be like, yeah, we agreed,
• 54:40
  Speaker 1: and it just you know, things went when Yeah, so
• 54:43
  Speaker 1: she was gonna sing over that beat and everything. Wow,
• 54:47
  Speaker 1: and imagine how on it yeah, because it was more
• 54:54
  Speaker 1: dancey and I get what you're saying. Okay.
• 54:57
  Speaker 2: Was there any other artists that you guys worked with
• 54:58
  Speaker 2: that just never came to Fruition.
• 55:01
  Speaker 1: X or not? I think not Wu Tang Clan itself,
• 55:07
  Speaker 1: but I think, you know, all the members then blessed
• 55:09
  Speaker 1: with everybody. But on the album called the On the
• 55:12
  Speaker 1: W's the What's the album where it's the only Wu
• 55:18
  Speaker 1: Tang album that was like, yo, let's let it. Let
• 55:21
  Speaker 1: our brothers in some peers in so Bosters on itg
• 55:25
  Speaker 1: Is on it, Snoopers on it, Batman is on it,
• 55:29
  Speaker 1: you know what I mean? And those is you know
• 55:31
  Speaker 1: Wo Cousins members. Yeah. Yeah. My last question man, you
• 55:36
  Speaker 1: talked about the importance of discipline and self mastery throughout
• 55:40
  Speaker 1: your entire career. Why is that so important for people
• 55:42
  Speaker 1: to have in the industry now, because I feel like
• 55:45
  Speaker 1: it's the lack of it. Yeah, definitely. You know, if
• 55:48
  Speaker 1: you don't know the ledge like knowledge yourself, know the ledge,
• 55:51
  Speaker 1: you're going to fall off the edge. And it's really
• 55:53
  Speaker 1: as simple as that. You know, your health is your wealth,
• 55:58
  Speaker 1: all the things. You know. Being the youngest fun so
• 56:01
  Speaker 1: they come in our coming the industry. You know, they're young.
• 56:03
  Speaker 1: It's exciting, you know, I mean the blue pill, red pill,
• 56:07
  Speaker 1: yellow pill, you know what I mean. And you know
• 56:09
  Speaker 1: and and and you got and live. But you know,
• 56:13
  Speaker 1: since everything is more potent, you know what I mean,
• 56:16
  Speaker 1: And everything is like, uh, before we could take ten
• 56:21
  Speaker 1: years to take you out, could take you out now
• 56:23
  Speaker 1: one year. That's that just like just like the information.
• 56:28
  Speaker 1: Before it took forever to get the information. Now you
• 56:30
  Speaker 1: could just press the button. It's the same thing with negativity,
• 56:33
  Speaker 1: and so I would tell I was just shout out
• 56:36
  Speaker 1: all my young artists out there or even mature artists.
• 56:39
  Speaker 1: Definitely take time to build yourself, build your mind. Don't
• 56:43
  Speaker 1: get too caught up in it, you know what I mean.
• 56:46
  Speaker 1: Look at this as as as as your work as
• 56:49
  Speaker 1: your love, but keep yourself and your family first. We
• 56:53
  Speaker 1: had think you.
• 56:54
  Speaker 2: Appreciate you for joining us. The tickets are on sale
• 56:56
  Speaker 2: right now, get your tickets.
• 57:00
  Speaker 1: Appreciate you, Rizz, appreciate you too, brother. It's the Breakfast Club.
• 57:03
  Speaker 1: It's Rizzo Bong Bong. Wake that ass up Earth in
• 57:06
  Speaker 1: the morning. The Breakfast Club. M hm.