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A Wisconsin Beer??? Vikings Numbers 60-79 & Hanging out with Dustin Baker | TSH Ep. 48 · The Skol Hop

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  All right, Hey Vikings fans, welcome into another episode of the School Hot
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  I'm Evan, I'm Austin. We're just a couple of dudes from Iowa.
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  We like Viking beer talking about the Vikings, Yeah, we do, and
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  to get some beer money. Our show is sponsored. If you're a you
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  You know what I've learned about Big Top What's that they're really good at giving
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  gifts. They really like They really got the nice little sign back here,
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  a little on school hop sign and even just looking around on our set.
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  There's a few other things that they've gotten for us, So thanks, Big
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  Top. Appreciate it. Most notably probably are yeah that one you signed Culpepper
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  Jersey. Oh yeah, I got you a gift. What I did?
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  Yeah, So I went to Wisconsin, which I know, enemy territory.
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  How would you? But I was there this last weekend for a wedding,
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  so okay, all right, and I was a good friend, so you
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  know you gotta go. Okay, But you know what Wisconsin has, right,
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  They got some pretty good beer. They have great beer. As much
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  as I hate to say, they are good at a few things. So
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  Askanie's you've got some good beer. So if you look behind you, I
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  got you some of I think what you've told me is your favorite beer of
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  all time. You're too kind this this might be like, oh my goodness,
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  this is we're doing something new here, like we've never had a Wisconsin
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  beer. Oh. Ever, on screen, I appreciate the gift. If
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  you are not watching us on YouTube or Spotify, jump on take a look.
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  You'll you'll have about five more seconds if you're only listening to not know
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  what this gift is. Evan got me some Moonman from New Glaris. There
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  you go. And I've said before Moonman might be a perfect beer at least
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  for me. It's there's I can't there's nothing to complain about with this beer,
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  Evan, thank you so much. I will not be drinking us on
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  the podcast. We will not have it on the podcast because that would break
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  our rule of only having Iowa beer. But I couldn't go to Wisconsin without
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  getting you some of that. I appreciate it, Thank you, sir.
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  We might have to crack one open post show post show. Yeah, we
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  might have to off air off off the podcast because we we do love beer,
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  we're beer lovers, and just because we have a personal rule that we
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  only drink Iowa brew beer on the podcast. We love all kinds of beer
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  from everywhere. So yeah, we might have to crack one open before the
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  day is done, for sure. For sure. Well, I brought oh
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  Yeah and Iowa beer here and we're gonna continue with our mystery beer series here.
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  I realized when I was at the store buying this beer that I think
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  we're out of breweries. Yeah, we need some help, guys, so
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  either like, we need these breweries that don't distribute to get in touch with
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  us so we can get our hands on more great Iowa beer, or we
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  need some like new breweries just like pop up and start brewing beer in Iowa.
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  But yeah, we're out of breweries at least for the moment. And
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  what's available to us at our favorite Devil's Glenn hy Vey. Yeah, maybe
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  we just need to talk to those guys at the Devil's Glenn Highvey. I
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  did do that. So I did hear of this past weekend. Hear of
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  a newer brewery that I don't know how. They might have been around forever,
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  but I've never heard of them before. But Field Day Brewing Company in
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  like North Liberty area, I've never had anything of theirs. They look kind
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  of newer. I don't know anything about them other than I had never heard
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  of them before a couple of days ago. So might have to keep our
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  eyes peeled for some of their beer. That'd be cool. Field Day Brewing
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  Company, Yeah, we should get in touch with them, But I'm going
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  to guess that's not the brewery that you got this beer from. This is
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  not a field Day Brewing Company beer. No, it is a brewery that
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  we've had, not a beer that we've had. So it's not a double
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  up. We've only doubled up once, I believe in the history of the
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  show. Yeah, maybe twice, definitely, just once that I remember.
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  Yeah. So yeah, let's pour these up and see what we got and
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  see if you can guess. I would be remiss if I didn't mention this
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  amazing tinfoil job that you've got here. You're welcome. All four cans are
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  perfectly tinfoiled. And you didn't even have to use tape like I did.
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  No take no tape. These were pretty cold and the condensation, you know,
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  kind of just sucked it in. All right, all right, we'll
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  crack them open. Oh that was a good, good open here. All
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  right. I will try not to spill everywhere. We do have paper towels.
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  We're prepared if we need it. Good old Austin hard pore. Holy
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  cow. Yeah, that's like ninety percent. Now we'll be all right.
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  You gotta do the hard poor. It's a it's on purpose, is what
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  I will tell everybody. All Right, while your beer is settling, I'll
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  put it up to the camera here and i'll describe for those that are listening.
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  I haven't had this before, so this is new to me. Uh,
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  it's hard to see through, so it's definitely hazy. Yeah, it's
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  similar to last week. I was gonna say, this kind of looks like
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  last week. You got kind of an ambery color. Yeah, I don't
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  know what are you getting? Yeah, I mean that's a good visual description.
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  Is not as hazy as last week. So you couldn't see through last
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  week's at all. But right now holding it up, it's pretty dark,
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  but I can see the lights through it. It does have I did a
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  hard poor but it's got some nice foam. It foamed up pretty good.
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  The aroma is good. It's I don't know. It smells like a lighter
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  beer than it looks like. So that's that's all I guessed before I taste
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  it. But yeah, if if you think you know what this looks or
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  what it is just based off the color so far, give us a comment,
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  let us know. But let's let's try this out and see what we
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  think. School. That's good. You know what this reminds me of?
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  It's not an Iowa beer. What it reminds you, yeah, a fat
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  tire. It reminds me of a New Belgium fat tire. Okay, I
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  could see that. You get that from this. Yeah, so it's kind
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  of It's the only word I can think of right now. It's kind of
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  tangy. Does that make any sense to you? Yeah, yep, it's
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  definitely got some hops to it. Yeah, it's hoppy, tangy. Yeah,
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  it's good, though it's not really citrusy. So I don't I don't
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  really know, man, I'm just gonna make my first guess. Remember,
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  we try to guess the type, the ABV and the brewery. So I'm
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  gonna make my first guess. Just get kinda umbrella guess here. Is it
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  an I p A. It's close to an I p A, but it
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  is not an I p A. All right, all right, well over
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  one, so far change the first letter in the ip A abbreviation. Okay,
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  I mean so a pale ale? Is it like a New England?
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  No? No, okay, all right, New England is a New England
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  I p A? Yeah? Yeah? Well yeah, and I don't know.
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  Maybe this isn't an official beer, but it's what's on the can.
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  It's an American pale ale. Oh okay, well yeah, that's an official
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  type. Okay, so there's still some hoppy, good flavor. Yep,
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  kind of tangy kind of it's not though you're looking. Yeah, definitely got
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  an amber color. I think there's some there's like a maltiness to it a
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  little bit. Yeah, yeah, maybe that's what I'm thinking. Like the
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  the multi I think that's what you sweetness. Yeah, the amber color and
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  I love that and a beer I love that multi flavor. All right,
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  so ABV. So last week I kind of I kind of went a little
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  overboard with the what was it, the tropical burn the eight point five percent
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  delicious but very good. Yeah, that that lets you know it was there.
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  This I'm gonna guess just right at five percent a little higher than that.
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  Okay, it's like five five a little higher than that? Wow?
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  Is it six six percent? Okay? All right? Well over two so
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  far I can't claim any anything there. This is like baseball, Like it's
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  okay, if your batting average is like in the two hundreds, you're still
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  good enough. We should go back and look, I'm not very good at
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  guessing all this. I do have a good funny story for Mexico, but
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  about guessing what what we're drinking, but that's for another time. All right,
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  So I'm over two brewery, have we had you said, we've had
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  this brewery before. It's tough to find a brewery that we haven't had.
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  Yeah, we're getting there. Maybe the maybe the one I talked about earlier.
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  We can try to find some of their stuff. Also, we have
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  like a beer encyclopaedia encyclopedia in our friend Forrest. He could strade direct us
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  to some beers that we haven't had before. Yeah, I was thinking about
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  that. It's been a minute since we've had them on So anyways, I
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  can only I can only delay so long have we have Have we been to
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  this brewery? Not? Have you or I been? I have not.
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  I'm pretty sure you haven't, Okay, but I would be surprised if you
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  have. All Right, we'll put it that way. Is it within an
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  hour of us? Uh? No? Okay, farther away? Is it
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  in the des Moines area? It's not in the immediate des Moines area?
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  Man, all right, it's actually you'll never guess where it's from. It's
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  it's it's closer to des Moines than we are, but it's still probably an
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  hour outside of des Moines. Okay, all right, So smaller town,
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  not a super big area, kind of a one of Iowa's classic hometowns.
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  I would say, okay, is it a brewery We've had more than once?
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  I think, so, yeah, okay, is it? Is it
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  No Coast? It is? Yes, we go all right, I'm going
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  to take the w on that one. One for three. That's you're bad
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  in three thirty three. All right, hey, I'll take it. That's
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  of fame number right there. So all right, we've got a No Coast
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  beer. I totally whiffed on everything else. What are we drinking here?
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  It is No Coasts American Johnny. Ooh, I heard Flying Johnny, Flying
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  Johnny, Flying Johnny. He's got an American flag. Yeah, like an
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  eagle's wings in an American flag. So I can see, uh see why
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  you would think that the Flying Johnny. I can't even say that I've seen
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  this can before. It looked really new to me. Like I spend an
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  unreal amount of time standing in front of the beer shelf at the Devil's Glenn
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  Ivey, Like they probably think I'm weird because I just scan and I'm like,
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  Okay, what haven't we had before? And I pull up my phone
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  and I'm looking through our list and like, now we've had that one before,
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  and this time I was like, I want to find a brewery we
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  haven't had, and I couldn't. Well, No Coast is a good op.
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  I can't think of a nocost beer that I haven't liked so far,
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  and we've had at least two or three of them before. Yeah, and
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  we're just coming off the fourth of July. Yeah, this may be.
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  Just looking at the can, it looks like a Fourth of July can,
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  So I wouldn't be shocked if this was like a special release, a limited
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  run. But nowhere on the can does it say like only for fourth of
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  July. But yeah, this is I mean, this can screams MRCA in
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  the best way possible. There's a guy in a red wagon about to jump
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  through a flaming hoop with a red, white and blue eagle flying above it.
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  That's yeah, that's as Americans as you can get there. Yeah.
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  It definitely stuck out to me when I was scanning the shelves, and I
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  actually I went I was drawn to it, and then I got pulled away
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  by some other stuff and then came back to it and I'm like, no,
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  we're getting that one. You're just gonna do it. And six percent
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  to like. That's that's as important to me as like flavor. Again,
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  if you go too high, I can't. I just can't do too much
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  of it. But if you go too low, I'm not. I mean,
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  I kind of want to feel something when I when I'm having a good
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  beer. So six percent is usually my sweet spots of the beers I looked
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  for. So yeah, good job so far, no coast. We'll give
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  some more opinions of it after a couple more here you go. All right,
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  So we are in what is this now week four of our series of
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  jersey numbers. Yep, that would make sense. Yep. So we've kind
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  of split the canon of jersey numbers into five chunks. This is week four
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  of five, and then next week we'll finish out with the last set of
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  twenty jersey numbers. But this week we've got jerseys sixty to seventy nine.
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  Yeah, and maybe this week as as much as any other week, more
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  than any other week, there are some numbers in here that there's a couple
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  of current players that are not what I would consider currently the best be wearing
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  their jersey number, but they could, you know, by the end of
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  their career or even at the end of their Vikings career, they could etch
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  their name into those numbers. So I'll mention that as we go along.
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  But yeah, I feel like the last the first episode, we tried to
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  do every other and kind of made a game of it. But there's so
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  many we don't know, because we only know less than half of Viking's history
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  just based on what we've watched. So we just want to go down the
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  line and kind of say the numbers and kind of how we feel about these
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  guys. Yeah, how about you list off what you've got here, and
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  then I put together kind of some not necessarily honorable mentions, but like guys
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  that when I look at the list of each player to wear each number,
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  I'm like, yeah, I remember that guy because I was this year's old,
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  this year's old, I was this old, and I remember this was
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  the quarterback, and so on and so forth. So just names that stick
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  out to me throughout my Vikings history, and I think kind of would resonate
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  with you through most of yours as well. Sweet All right, So first
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  off, first one we're going to talk about tonight is number sixty. This
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  one. This is a tough one. Yeah, to start with, aside
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  from one guy who is the clear cut. This number is wide open for
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  anybody else to stamp their name on it. The one guy, Roy Winston,
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  a linebacker from sixty two to seventy six. He and we've mentioned.
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  So we're getting all this information from Pro Football Reference dot com. They have
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  their approximate value score, which kind of ranks people, ranks players in their
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  career. Roy Winston, his approximate value excuse me, is one hundred and
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  nine, which is high, Yeah, quite high, Like I wanted to
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  look up Adrian Peterson's which again he's, you know, a Hall of Fame
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  level player. His approximate value of course, it's going to take me a
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  longer than I wanted it to you to figure this out. Oh no,
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  dead air, that's the best. His approximate value is one hundred and twenty
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  nine. So for Roy Winston to have one hundred and nine, like,
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  that's that's pretty close. So yeah, especially for a guy who I'm sorry,
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  fellow Vikings fans, I've never to my knowledge heard his name before today.
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  So you know, you know who we need to consult on this.
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  We got our stat guy. We got to consult Dennis. Dennis if you're
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  out there listening and watching on YouTube, drop us a comment below, let
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  us know what you know about Roy Winston. We would love to dive into
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  your wealth of knowledge on the Vikings and share that with our community here,
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  because Dennis, we're gonna need a total number of tackles for Roy Winston and
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  his Vikings career. Yeah, that's that's what's interesting about looking at this guy,
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  like he kind of played in an era where especially defensive stats were kind
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  of second thought. Yeah, just stopped the stop the ballcarrier. They didn't
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  even take I can't find any tackle stat for Roy Winston in his career.
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  There's nothing out there for tackles. They do have sacks recorded, which is
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  weird. But when did they start recording sacks? It was like nineteen eighty
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  two or like anything after eighty two whenever that it was right about then when
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  stats became an official or sacks became an official stats. And Roy Winston played
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  his whole career for the Vikings nineteen sixty two to nineteen seventy six. Yeah,
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  as a linebacker and according to that approximate value, a pretty good career.
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  So there's probably a ton of Vikings fans out there that remember this guy's
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  name. Sorry, Roy, you were just before our time. We don't
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  remember you, but glad you're a good Viking. Yeah. So yeah,
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  that was number sixty really not much after Winston. There's one of those numbers
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  that I mean, if you're looking for a number to make your own in
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  the Vikings franchise, that might be one to go after. So all right,
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  what about sixty one? Sixty one was interesting. So the guy that
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  Pro Football Reference has the highest score for was someone named Wes Hamilton. He
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  was a guard that played from seventy six to eighty four with Minnesota. His
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  approximate value is forty seven, at least with the Vikings. I don't remember
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  if he played anywhere else. I think just the Vikings, but this number
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  seems to be a little bit more close of a race. Larry Bowie is
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  second, with a value of thirty five. Another guy from the sixties,
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  Joe Berger, who kind of started off as a backup depth guy and really
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  came in and turned into a starter. And I remember he got like a
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  reupted contract even though he didn't. They didn't have to because he was still
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  under contract for a few more years, just to give him a higher pay
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  raise. He has a value of thirty two after that, though not a
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  whole ton kind of falls after that. But I have Joe as kind of
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  my honorable mention slash like player from our era that kind of stands out at
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  number sixty one. So yeah, he was a guard in the center from
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  twenty eleven to twenty seventeen. I mean, he is noteworthy enough that most
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  Vikings fans from that era would at least know his name. Yeah, Joe
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  Berger kind of took over for John Sullivan towards the end of John Sullivan's Vikings
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  career as a center, and his name may come up here in a couple
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  of numbers, but yeah, Berger has a total av of forty two.
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  Yeah. He played for the Dolphins and the Cowboys kind of back and forth
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  before coming to Minnesota in twenty eleven. Yeah, and he was a nice,
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  you know, solidifying light for the offensive line in a few years where
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  the O line was pretty rough. Berger was a nice surprise and a good,
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  you know, solidifying presence on the line. So yeah, I definitely
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  appreciated his Vikings career. All right, sixty two? Who do we got?
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  Oh man? All Right? Pro Football Reference has guard slash tackle Ed
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  White from sixty nine to seventy seven. He played for the Vikings Avy of
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  fifty nine, so half as much as Roy Winston. Yeah, I've heard
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  his name before, but not anything I'd specifically remember. Can you think of
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  anybody sixty two? So the starting center in the ninety eight season, arguably
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  one of the best seasons in Vikings history. Jeff Christie, Yeah, wore
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  that number and he was not just good in ninety eight, but he was
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  pretty solid as a center for the Vikings from ninety three to ninety eight or
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  ninety nine. Sorry, and then he left and went to Tampa Bay for
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  a couple of seasons after that. But pro bowler, and he's got a
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  similar Christy has a similar av of fifty two, close to that fifty nine,
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  so career avy of seventy four. Yeah, so overall probably a better
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  player maybe than Ed White career wise, but Viking's career wise, it's a
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  little bit different. Do you know what else is significant about the number sixty
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  two today? Oh? Man? What's that? Of today's July eighth?
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  Sixty two days until Vikings football is back. Sixty two days until the first
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  regular season game, Man, until we play it back before that, it's
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  going to feel like it's back before. Well, we're definitely at the bottom
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  of the hill. Yeah, getting ready toke it a way back up.
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  It's it's coming. Well, Dustin Baker has said before July fourth seems to
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  he may even say this later in our episode tonight. July fourth seems to
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  be a good turning point for the season to kind of switch over and lo
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  and behold. We just passed July fourth, So yeah, two months,
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  two months to go. Let's do it. We can, we can make
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  it all right. Sixty three. We gotta keep going because we got a
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  ways to go here. Yeah, we do all right, sixty three.
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  Kirk louder Milk played for the Vikings from eighty five to ninety two, an
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  avy of forty three, which seems to be like, okay, like good
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  enough. Did not watch this guy. He was a center for the Vikings
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  when I was born, so I don't remember him very much at all.
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  The louder Milk name kind of rings a bell. I think there was a
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  Hawkeye Iowa Hawkeye, like a defensive back in the last handful of years that
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  at least his last name was Loudermilk. I don't know if there's any relation
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  there other than him. Sixty three Brandon Fusco, I've pronounced it, Fusco,
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  Fusco, Fusco. I don't know who's right. So I'm gonna go
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  with Fusco because that's how I've always said. There you go. I've got
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  him on my list. Sixty three. He was a good guard for the
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  Vikings, just solid presence there, started quite a few games. And I
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  feel like starting games at that guard position, tackle position, even the center,
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  just anything on the offensive line since there are no stats yeah really,
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  I mean some advanced stats nowadays that you can kind of like, you know,
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  dig into, but the more readily available stats just aren't there for offensive
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  lineman. So I feel like that's a badge of honor. Like if you
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  start games as an offensive lineman and you rack up those starts, the more
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  you rack up, that's a good thing. And Brandon Fusco started sixty four
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  out of sixty seven appearances, yeah, for the Vikings, And importantly he
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  was a starting guard for Adrian Peterson's twenty twelve MVP year, So true,
• 23:33
  that's something to say. I mean, the offensive line is a huge piece
• 23:36
  of a running back. Successful. Yeah, and he started all sixteen games
• 23:41
  that season, so he was there at the right guard position for all of
• 23:45
  those. All. Right, sixty four, who do we got out?
• 23:48
  Oh? Man, that's a tough one. I don't know. How could
• 23:52
  we ever find somebody that's good at the number sixty four? Oh? Wait?
• 23:57
  Random McDaniel. Yeah, maybe the best player in Vikings history, Yeah,
• 24:03
  no doubt. Yeah, from eighty eight to ninety nine, Avy of
• 24:07
  one hundred and fifty eight. Yeah, as compared to the highest AV to
• 24:11
  war sixty three, who had Laudermilk with forty three his av. You could
• 24:17
  take away Laddermilk's Avy and Rydom McDaniel would still have over one hundred and still
• 24:22
  be a Hall of Fame worthy player. But if there was another number that
• 24:26
  the Vikings could consider retiring, sixty four could be on that short list of
• 24:32
  numbers that. I don't know who'd be mad about that. It's just they
• 24:36
  they continue to let people wear it. It didn't even really have too long
• 24:38
  after McDaniel at least left the Vikings before somebody else picked it up. Yeah.
• 24:45
  I think the next one was in O five. Well, Anthony Herrera,
• 24:47
  he was pretty good. Yeah, Herrera wasn't bad. And then Blake
• 24:51
  Brandell. I think it's currently wearing it right, yep, yep. So
• 24:53
  there you go, all right, sixty five sixty five. So before where
• 25:00
  I looked at this list, there's a there's a big name that I'm sure
• 25:03
  most Vikings fans have heard of if you didn't watch this guy before, Gary
• 25:07
  Zimmerman from eighty six to ninety two. But before I looked this list up,
• 25:11
  my best sixty five John Sullivan. I mean he was, like you
• 25:17
  said it earlier, he was Brett Farve's I think it was just Sullivan's rookie
• 25:21
  year or maybe his second year in nine. Yeah, I think he was
• 25:23
  a second year player in nine when he started every game with Brett Favre under
• 25:29
  center, so he was the center. He appeared in sixteen games, but
• 25:34
  didn't start the previous year his rookie year, and then started all sixteen games
• 25:40
  in nine that first year with Brett Farv And yeah, I have him on
• 25:45
  my list as a pretty notable sixty five. It's hard not to note somebody
• 25:51
  that was literally snapping the ball to one of the greatest quarterbacks of all time.
• 25:56
  Yeah, and again not to completely gloss over Zimmerman. Zimmerman's AV was
• 26:02
  seventy two, Sullivan's was forty four, at least with the Vikings. I
• 26:06
  know Sullivan went on to play for two other teams. Yeah, he played
• 26:08
  for Washington and the Rams. Oh yeah, yeah, he went to the
• 26:11
  Super Bowl with the Rams. I think when they lost to I forget who
• 26:15
  they lost to, but it was Jared Goff's Rams Super Bowl. But yeah,
• 26:19
  I mean Sullivan. He was one of my favorite players when he was
• 26:25
  on the Vikings. I think he's just a solid good dude. So yeah,
• 26:29
  he's my favorite. Sixty five A couple of other notable ones. Charlie
• 26:33
  Johnson, Okay, oh, there had actually been two Charlie Johnson's. I
• 26:38
  have Charlie Johnson on here twice. There were two Charlie Johnson's. One that
• 26:42
  wore sixty four from one and were seventy four seventy four. Yeah, so
• 26:48
  sixty four or sixty five. Sorry, it was eighty two to eighty four.
• 26:52
  Different guy. When I saw the name, I was like, oh,
• 26:55
  hey, yeah, I know that guy. Anyways, my mistake pad
• 26:59
  Alf paddle flyne though, yeah, or that number he was so so I
• 27:03
  think he's still kind of bouncing around the league. And Austin Schlotman, Yeah,
• 27:07
  he could have could have been. He still can, he's just not
• 27:11
  on the Vikings anymore. I liked Schlopman a lot. He was a good
• 27:15
  backup center and it was nice to know that we had him in our back
• 27:19
  pocket, especially with Bradbury's back injuries. Yeah, and now he's on the
• 27:23
  Viking or on the Giants, so they've got a good one at least at
• 27:27
  least a good backup, if not somebody that can step in in start games.
• 27:32
  All right, sixty six currently we got dalton Nis. This is one
• 27:37
  of those numbers though, where there's only one other player in Viking's history with
• 27:42
  the av above ten. Yeah, and that's Terry Tausch played for the Vikes
• 27:49
  from eighty two to eighty eight with an AVY of thirty seven. Sorry Terry.
• 27:53
  If somebody wants to come in, if I think the jury saw out,
• 27:57
  even if Reisner wanted to come in and make himself the best sixty six
• 28:02
  in Vikings history, he still can. The door is definitely open. Even
• 28:07
  for Reisner, who's what twenty eight or so years old, he can He
• 28:10
  could still come in and do that. Yeah, So Terry Taush, he
• 28:15
  started sixty eight games for the Vikings. Played for the Niners for one season,
• 28:21
  it looked like didn't start any games for them, So most of his
• 28:23
  career was spent with the Vikes, and those were kind of some rough years
• 28:26
  for the Vikings. The eighties pretty much all of the eighties, yeah,
• 28:30
  were pretty bad. Yeah. So yeah, anyways, Terry Taush, there
• 28:34
  you go, sixty seven sixty seven. We got Grady Alderman from sixty one
• 28:40
  to seventy four. I think he might have been the first sixty seven in
• 28:44
  Vikings history an avy of one hundred and six. Yeah, I don't think
• 28:48
  unless you're a Hall of Famer, sorry ed Ingram, unless you're a Hall
• 28:51
  of Famer, you're not gonna end up being the best sixty seven in Vikings
• 28:55
  history. You got to get past Grady for that. So multiple time Pro
• 28:57
  bowler, won two, three, four, five six time Pro Bowler,
• 29:03
  a couple of All Pro votes. I don't know that he was ever voted
• 29:06
  All Pro. But yeah, some really really good years for the Vikings.
• 29:11
  He started. He was drafted by the Lions actually the year before the Vikings
• 29:17
  started playing saw that earlier, and then made his way to Minnesota for his
• 29:19
  sophomore campaign and was with the Vikings for the rest of his career, mostly
• 29:23
  at left tackle. So again one of those non sexy positions where stats just
• 29:30
  really aren't a thing. But was pretty solid at that left tackle position through
• 29:38
  some really really good years of Vikings football. Oh yeah, you know,
• 29:42
  some of the best years. So Dennis again fill us in if you know
• 29:48
  anything about Grady Alderman. But other than him, you got Dennis Swilly,
• 29:55
  Yeah, from seventy seven to eighty seven, and then Ed Ingram currently wears
• 30:00
  that number. Yeah, I think the jury is still out on Ingram.
• 30:03
  He kind of started off a little slow, stepped on Cousin's foot a couple
• 30:06
  of times more than a few although after what the first four or five games
• 30:10
  last year where he started off a little slow, in his second year he
• 30:14
  started to turn it around. So the jury still out. He's entering his
• 30:18
  third year in the league. Ed Ingram is so he could still I mean,
• 30:22
  he could still turn into something, get a few Pro Bowls under his
• 30:26
  belt. He could I know, I just said you probably won't, but
• 30:30
  he could theoretically take the take the lead above Grady Alderman. But I don't.
• 30:36
  I wouldn't put money on that. Sixty eight. Sixty eight. That's
• 30:40
  another one of those tough ones where it's just like there's not a lot here.
• 30:44
  There are some guys that have been maybe flashes in the pan, But
• 30:51
  I must say sixty eight is my favorite number when I did play football,
• 30:56
  which when I was on the team. I shouldn't say play, because I
• 31:00
  never played. When I was on the team, I wore sixty eight on
• 31:03
  the bench. I bet you looked good in sixty eight. No, I'm
• 31:08
  I have the body type for sixty eight, let's just say that. But
• 31:12
  I have a personalized Vikings jersey for sixty eight. So maybe to me,
• 31:18
  I'm the best Viking. I'm just kidding. I can't say that. But
• 31:22
  sixty eight. Charles Goodrum from seventy three to seventy nine got an avy of
• 31:26
  forty one. So I don't know who currently wears it, if anybody right
• 31:30
  now? This says Henry bird Wart in twenty twenty three. Is he even
• 31:34
  on the team anymore? Yah, I don't. I don't really know.
• 31:37
  We are terrible Vikings fans now, but somebody could could take a run at
• 31:41
  that number. I mean, you get if you were a good, good
• 31:45
  player and get a handful of Pro Bowls. Sorry, Charles, they could,
• 31:49
  they could take sixty eight away from you. So if you're an up
• 31:52
  and coming Viking and you play defensive tackle or you know, offensive line,
• 31:59
  come get it. Gets sixty eight and have a day. Anybody you can
• 32:04
  think of, This list is pretty light, tough. Yeah, there's not
• 32:07
  a lot there, but good room. He was on what was it,
• 32:13
  two super Bowl teams? Yeah, I mean three super Bowl teams, seventy
• 32:15
  four, seventy five, seventy seven, So I mean, yeah, maybe
• 32:20
  he wasn't the greatest, but he started. He started all twelve games in
• 32:25
  seventy four. Oh, this is terrible. I'm sorry. That was way
• 32:29
  louder than I thought it would be. It's all good tinfoil coming off the
• 32:32
  beer. No, no worries. He started every game in his three Super
• 32:42
  Bowl seasons. I'm if I'm counting correctly and I'm looking at the right thing.
• 32:46
  So to start at he was a tackle for his first three seasons and
• 32:52
  then a guard, all on the left side, it looks like. But
• 32:57
  yeah, to to start all of those games and go to three Super Bowls,
• 33:01
  yeah, I mean that's that's a solid career right there for sure.
• 33:06
  All right, sixty nine? Can you think of anybody? I don't know.
• 33:09
  This joke is not even getting old to me. No, we actually
• 33:14
  we were there when he was inducted into the Ring of Honor the Great.
• 33:19
  He rode in on a freaking horse. Yeah, mullet flowing. It was
• 33:22
  az. We have commemorative mullets somewhere, we literally do. It's somewhere right
• 33:27
  here. It's around here. So of course we're talking about future Hall of
• 33:30
  Famer. He's not in yet. I think he's won a few people to
• 33:32
  be a finalist four times and not get in. He will be in.
• 33:37
  If he's not, then stop watching football. But Jared Allen Jared Allen drafted
• 33:42
  by the Chiefs, played for the Vikings and then kind of had a couple
• 33:45
  of weird years with the Bears and a Super Bowl losing year with the Panthers.
• 33:52
  But yeah, Jared Allen av of seventy five with the Vikings. Honestly,
• 33:55
  his career with the Vikings was probably too short. Six seasons five,
• 34:00
  six seasons, yeah, maybe seven. After him, it was Doug Sutherland
• 34:05
  as far as next best player to wear sixty nine and then pretty close after
• 34:10
  you know those guys, is Rashot Hill at sixteen with an avy, So
• 34:15
  he's on my list the just notable names to where other than the obvious Jared
• 34:20
  Allen and Rashad Hill was never a starter. He only had twenty two starts,
• 34:24
  but he appeared in seventy four games. Yeah for the Vikings. So
• 34:30
  and he was on the team from sixteen to twenty one. So just a
• 34:34
  solid presence. I think what mostly at tackle, right tackle, And so
• 34:40
  Jared Allen's another guy like, yeah, he was way better for well,
• 34:44
  he played longer, he was better for the Vikings. But he also could
• 34:50
  be considered one of the best sixty nines for the Kansas City Chiefs just looking
• 34:54
  it up right here, he's second in av for the Chiefs to wear sixty
• 34:59
  nine. The first is a guy that played from sixty to sixty seven,
• 35:02
  Cheryl Hedrick. But we're not a Chiefs podcast, we're Vikings podcast. Jared
• 35:07
  Allen was good. I guess that's my whole point. Moving on to number
• 35:12
  seventy. We could we could probably just gloss over this one because there's only
• 35:19
  ever been one person to wear the number. We can't gloss over we can't
• 35:23
  gloss over this because he's arguably one of the greatest Vikings of all time.
• 35:27
  Yeah, and that's why there's only been one number seventy in Vikings history,
• 35:31
  and that's the Great Jim Marshall, Great Jim Marshall, who it is a
• 35:37
  travesty that he is not in the Hall of Fame, that is true.
• 35:40
  I almost don't care about the Hall of Fame until he gets in. I
• 35:44
  know it just like the Pro Bowl. The Hall of Fame is a major
• 35:46
  popularity contest. But there's guys that you just know, like Brett Favre,
• 35:52
  like I think famously, they the committee, you know, talked for about
• 35:57
  two seconds until they were all like Brett farv in, Yes he's in.
• 36:01
  Jim Marshall. To me, he's in. He's in. He's just you
• 36:06
  don't have to be a diehard Vikings fan to know that he is a Hall
• 36:08
  of Famer. Get him in. Come on, Hall of Fame. What
• 36:10
  are you doing. I'm looking at the stat line for Jim Marshall right now.
• 36:15
  Too long. You have to scroll a couple of times. Yeah,
• 36:19
  it's crazy. So he was drafted by the Browns in nineteen sixty, which
• 36:22
  is a year before the Vikings were in existence. Another one of those players
• 36:25
  that kind of predates the Vikings as a franchise. But once he made his
• 36:30
  way to Minnesota in sixty one, the first year of the franchise's existence,
• 36:35
  he was there until he retired in nineteen seventy nine. Yeah, for the
• 36:38
  better part of two decades. Had two hundred and seventy straight starts. He
• 36:44
  never missed a game, never missed a game. He started every single game
• 36:47
  that he played in. When Brett Favre broke the record for most consecutive starts,
• 36:52
  he broke Jim Marshall's record. Like this, Jim Marshall needs to be
• 36:57
  in the Hall of Fame. And the Hall of Fame was a Jim until
• 37:00
  they let him in. That just just it's crazy. It's crazy that he's
• 37:04
  not in it. But rightfully so, he's got his number retired. Nobody
• 37:07
  can ever wear that number again for the Vikings. And fun fact, Marshall
• 37:14
  on How I Met Your Mother was named after Jim Marshall. Yeah, you
• 37:16
  sent me a really interesting article. Yeah what last week or two weeks ago
• 37:21
  about the connection between Was it a writer on the show, Yeah, so
• 37:27
  I think yeah, so we'll get off on a tangent. We'll link the
• 37:30
  article. The article is written by Matthew Caller, and he was trying to
• 37:37
  get to the bottom of a very famous Vikings gift that's out there on the
• 37:40
  internet. It's the famous one of Marshall ericson what's the what's his uh,
• 37:46
  the actor's name Sigal Patrick Jason something like. It's of him at a Vikings
• 37:54
  bar and the gift is just him pounding the table and saying damn. And
• 38:01
  because he's responding to oh, you're talking about the ninety eight NFC Championship game,
• 38:07
  he's wearing that that number seventy. Jim Marshall jersey, which I learned
• 38:12
  through Matthew Caller's article. That jersey that Jim or that Marshall Erickson Warrew on
• 38:17
  the show How I Met Your Mother was gifted too. Well. It was
• 38:22
  lent to the show from from the Vikings and it was Jim Marshall's jersey.
• 38:27
  Yeah. I don't know if it was like a game warn thing or not.
• 38:29
  That would have been pretty insane for the Vikings to do, but yeah,
• 38:32
  yeah, it's a really good article. We'll link to it. Matthew
• 38:36
  Caller did a really good job getting to the bottom of this. You know,
• 38:39
  zero point two second gift that's out there that I probably sent to Evan
• 38:43
  and he's probably sent to me about a billion times. If you're a Vikings
• 38:46
  fan who is on social media, you have seen this gift. Even if
• 38:50
  you don't like how I Met your mother, Yeah, it's all because of
• 38:52
  Jim Marshall. And if you don't like how I'm at your mother, what
• 38:54
  are you doing with you? Come on? It's watch on. It just
• 38:58
  enriches your life. It's cheap, but it's good. I think it's back
• 39:00
  on Netflix. It might it's somewhere. If you can't, it's somewhere.
• 39:04
  It's on Hulu for sure. And I'm pretty sure it's back on Netflix,
• 39:07
  which means no ads, which is the best. Yeah, there you go.
• 39:10
  So all right, Number seventy Jim Marshall in the Hall of Fame.
• 39:15
  We weren't in alive, but we just know as lifelong Vikings fans. How
• 39:20
  incredible. He was a Purple People leader. He was a Purple People leader.
• 39:22
  And yes, I back you one hundred percent. We should start a
• 39:27
  petition. Let let's get Jim Marshall into the Pro Football Hall of Fame.
• 39:30
  So can I get off on an even less important tangent for half a second?
• 39:36
  Is that? Okay? Madden? If you play Madden, you can
• 39:42
  make somebody wear number seventy for the Vikings. Their whole thing is if it's
• 39:45
  in, if it's on the field, it's in the game. Make retired
• 39:50
  numbers not available for these teams. I don't want to see a number seventy
• 39:52
  for the Vikings from some you know, undrafted guy that won't make the team.
• 39:59
  They can't do it, life, don't let him do it. Madden,
• 40:01
  is there sixty eight on your team? Oh? I don't know.
• 40:05
  I I'd have to look. That's your number? Oh yeah, I don't
• 40:09
  put myself in the We've already gotten too deep into Madden tangent. Right anyways,
• 40:16
  all right, anyways, moving on seventy one, number seventy one.
• 40:22
  Who is the best Viking to wear seventy one? This is a good number.
• 40:25
  There's some good guys at the top of the list, and the current
• 40:30
  guy, Christian darrisaw he's got a chance to own the number outright, so
• 40:35
  he David Dixon. David Dixon from ninety four to four, he was the
• 40:39
  he was the Vikings. I think he was a left tackle, sorry,
• 40:44
  a guard. He was a Viking starting guard when I first started becoming a
• 40:47
  fan. His av is seventy five. He's really good. So Christian Deresaw,
• 40:52
  who currently wears that number, he would have to continue his his tear
• 40:58
  of being a great left tackle to maybe have a chance of taking the outright
• 41:02
  best seventy one in Vikings history. But he could. I could see that
• 41:07
  happening. There's a couple other names on this list of best Vikings to wear
• 41:10
  seventy one. Yeah, so Darisa obviously. Phil Lowtholt was another one that
• 41:16
  stuck out to me. That was a massive giant he was. Yeah,
• 41:21
  he was still is a big, big piece of man. Yes he was
• 41:25
  a chunk, but yeah, in the best way possible. Yeah, in
• 41:30
  exactly what you want at the kind of the corner of the offensive line and
• 41:35
  preventing people from coming after your quarterback. Yeah. I'm pretty sure he played
• 41:38
  right tackle too, which makes it all the more impressive. Riley Reef,
• 41:44
  who played I guess he only played four seasons for the Vikings, which is
• 41:46
  kind of crazy. Reef was one of those guys he's got probably you know,
• 41:52
  a solid careers, Worth spread out between a few different teams, notably
• 41:58
  the Lions and the Vikings, and then he kind of bounced around. Is
• 42:00
  he still in the league. I think he might still be. He might
• 42:02
  be. Yeah. He played for New England last year. Okay, only
• 42:07
  played in one game, but okay with the Patriots, so Reef was good.
• 42:12
  He was the starting what right tackle? Left tackle for the the case
• 42:16
  Keenam NFC Championship. Yere so, and he's in Iowa. Yeah, Brad
• 42:22
  So went to the University of Iowa. He's from South Dakota but played his
• 42:25
  college days right here, just down the road. And yeah, Iowa City,
• 42:30
  So there you go. Also a Culpepper. There's two Culpeppers in Vikings
• 42:35
  history, and one of them is ed. Ed Culpepper played one year the
• 42:37
  first year. Yeah, his av is not too high, but it's a
• 42:43
  fun Vikings name. So all right, seventy two, seventy two. I
• 42:46
  think we'll hear this a little bit later. Is this one of the ones
• 42:49
  that Dustin might mention later? Yeah? He might so. The best ever
• 42:54
  so far as James White for the Vikings, a guy who played from seventy
• 43:00
  six to eighty three, a defensive tackle. His AB is forty two,
• 43:04
  so pretty okay, but not Hall of Fame crazy numbers. Interestingly, tied
• 43:09
  for second for the best ever, at least as far as Pro Football Reference
• 43:14
  goes Ezra Cleveland, who was traded away last year. Yeah, Ezra Cleveland
• 43:17
  is up there and the players to wear seventy two for the Vikings and yeah,
• 43:22
  traded away and that was kind of an interesting storyline to follow last season.
• 43:28
  Yeah, but turned out to be okay for the Vikings. I guess.
• 43:30
  Yeah, a sneaky name for the Vikings. In twenty sixteen, that
• 43:34
  offensive line they were going down like flies. So at one point they had
• 43:37
  to sign Jake Long, who was a former number one overall pick for the
• 43:42
  Dolphins. But by the time he got to the Vikings, I mean he
• 43:46
  was getting to it. That was the end of his career. Was the
• 43:50
  four games he played for Minnesota, and he ended it with a I think
• 43:52
  it was a pretty good knee injury. But yeah, he wore seventy two
• 43:57
  as well, so this is another number he's coming Viking. Interestingly enough,
• 44:01
  he was a four time Pro bowler for Dolphins. Yeah. Long, Yeah,
• 44:05
  he was really good. I think his injury he just got bit by
• 44:07
  the injury bug a little too much, so he could have been great.
• 44:10
  He was just ended up being pretty darn good. I don't know who's currently
• 44:15
  wearing that number, if anybody, but there's a chance if you can get
• 44:20
  a few Pro bowls, you can you can usurp James White for that best
• 44:24
  ever to wear seventy two? What about seventy three? Seventy three? The
• 44:29
  first player that comes to mind I think of seventy three is Sharif Floyd.
• 44:34
  Yeah, one of those three first round picks in what twenty twelve, twenty
• 44:37
  thirteen with Zamber Rhodes and Cordero Patterson, he was on his way. He
• 44:44
  would have ended up being maybe the second or third best Viking to wear seventy
• 44:51
  three. Also, Shrie Floyd wore ninety five his first year because seventy three
• 44:55
  wasn't available. But the best ever was I believe the Vikings only first overall
• 45:01
  pick that they've made ron Yery Yeah, yep, first overall in nineteen sixty
• 45:07
  eight. Yeah, he solidified that offensive line for a long time for the
• 45:12
  Vikings. Played from sixty eight to eighty one for the Vikings. Seven time
• 45:17
  pro bowler and one two three four five, six time All Pro a Vikings
• 45:24
  av of one thirty five, one of the highest we'll see on this list.
• 45:28
  Yep, pretty incredible. Yeah, I had Todd stuci actually at seventy
• 45:37
  three. Just another notable name. He played kind of during that prime era
• 45:40
  of my childhood in ninety eight. That's that's a significant year. And I
• 45:45
  mentioned this earlier, but Todd Steucie had one hundred and eleven sorry, one
• 45:53
  hundred and eleven games appearances for the Vikings and he started all of them.
• 45:59
  That's yeah, that's wild. So to not get to not miss a game
• 46:01
  for injury at all, like, that's crazy, just very consistent. He
• 46:06
  ended up leaving in two thousand after the two thousand season, went to Carolina.
• 46:09
  Looks like he had a couple of good years and then he bounced around
• 46:13
  after that, Tampa Bay, Saint Louis. But yeah, Todd Stucy a
• 46:17
  couple time Pro bowler, got a few All Pro votes in ninety seven ninety
• 46:22
  eight, left tackle during that ninety eight, that historic ninety eight season.
• 46:28
  So yeah, he's definitely a name that stands out to me and one that
• 46:31
  like, when I think back to that era of Vikings football, he definitely
• 46:37
  comes to mind, and he has a really memorable last name. Oh yeah,
• 46:38
  I mean that's not that's one that maybe it's like sneaky more common than
• 46:43
  you think it is. But if I ever heard somebody named Stuci like instantly,
• 46:46
  it'd be like, wait, are you related to Todd all right?
• 46:52
  Seventy four? Yeah, seventy four. So the best one so far by
• 46:57
  a mile is Brian McKinney. Yeah, who he knows Dustin Baker pretty well.
• 47:04
  And Dustin's gonna talk about Brian McKinney at length here in a little bit
• 47:08
  in our interview with him. So yeah, Dustin teaser, Dustin, if
• 47:12
  you happen to be listening back next time we talk, I'm gonna work the
• 47:15
  courage up to see if we can somehow get some kind of an introduction to
• 47:20
  Brian McKinney, because that would be awesome. He is one of the more
• 47:24
  memorable Vikings players in my fan hood years. Really good left tackle, even
• 47:32
  won a Super Bowl towards the end of his career with the Ravens, and
• 47:37
  he shared an offensive line with the Ravens in that Super Bowl win with Matt
• 47:43
  Burke, who we may talk about later. Another form of Vikings, so
• 47:46
  yeah, he's got a a Vikings av of sixty seven. Next up is
• 47:51
  Charlie Johnson, who took over at that left tackle spot and the seventy four
• 47:55
  number the year after Brian McKinney went on to it was just straight to Baltimore.
• 48:02
  So yeah, Charlie Johnson. Next up, he's got a twenty eight
• 48:06
  Avy. So outside of Brian McKinney that number, that number could be had,
• 48:10
  So I think a Hall of Famer could take it over, but it
• 48:15
  would take quite a bit to take it over from Bryant. A couple other
• 48:17
  just minor names, but still contributors to the Vikings in the last handful of
• 48:22
  years. Mike Remmers wore it in seventeen and eighteen and then Oli Udoh wore
• 48:28
  it for four years. Yeah, and he just went on to another team.
• 48:30
  I think he's a Saint now. And currently it's someone named Spencer Roland
• 48:37
  for the Vikings who holds that number, and I don't know anything about him.
• 48:42
  So you know what about seventy five seventy five? This is another number
• 48:47
  that there's some good names and at the top of the list you've got Keith
• 48:52
  Millard played for the Vikings from eighty five to ninety so six seasons an avy
• 48:57
  of sixty and up until a few years ago, had a firm hold of
• 49:02
  that number. Matt Khalil kind of made a run for it until he just
• 49:07
  stopped being able to play good football. But in twenty eighteen, the Vikings
• 49:10
  drafted Brian O'Neil, who is currently number two on the list of best seventy
• 49:15
  five's in Vikings history, and he's still playing and could take over that number.
• 49:22
  So Millard, I think I just said his av is sixty. Brian
• 49:25
  O'Neil currently his av is forty seven, and I mean he's got he's still
• 49:31
  in his twenties of age. I forget how old he is right now,
• 49:35
  but he's got some good years of football left in him. O'Neill could easily
• 49:39
  a decade from now be considered the best seventy five, which is crazy because
• 49:44
  Millard was really good too. And interestingly enough, Matt Burke wore that number
• 49:47
  his first season in Minnesota. Oh yeah, was ninety eight. I think
• 49:51
  I did know that at one point, but obviously had forgotten about it.
• 49:53
  He wasn't obviously the starting center, but he was on the bench as a
• 49:58
  center and wore that number, and he appeared in seven games. Yeah,
• 50:00
  so yeah, Matt Burke wore that number as well. Nice. All right,
• 50:06
  seventy six. We're getting down to the nitty gritty here, Almost done.
• 50:10
  First name I think of is Steve Hutchinson. Yeah, for sure,
• 50:15
  current Hall of Famer. He played for the Vikings, the Seahawks. I
• 50:19
  think he finished off with the Titans. Maybe another team or two, No,
• 50:23
  I think that's it. And he's a guy, Steve Hutchinson is that
• 50:30
  he would have had a solid career if you only looked at his Seahawks numbers
• 50:35
  or only looked at his Vikings numbers, Like if he had only played you
• 50:39
  know, the years that he was on those teams and nothing else, you
• 50:44
  know, he still would have had a solid career. But yeah, really
• 50:47
  good guy. Still not the best to ever wear seventy six apparently, but
• 50:52
  a seven time Pro Bowler and a five time All Pro first team All Pro
• 51:00
  between the Seahawks and the Vikings. So pretty outstanding career. Yeah. The
• 51:05
  best according to Pro Football Reference, though, is Tim Irwin. A tackle
• 51:09
  from eighty one to ninety three. His score was ninety one. I believe
• 51:16
  he played for three teams here, but mostly for the Vikings. So for
• 51:21
  Hutchinson to be to play half of the time of his career that Tim Irwin
• 51:27
  did for the Vikings and to still not be terribly far behind, like that's
• 51:31
  that's pretty good. Another notable name that I had here was Chris Lewinsky.
• 51:37
  Oh yeah, another ninety eight guy on the team in ninety eight. Kind
• 51:42
  of bounced back and forth between tackle and guard. I would say he mostly
• 51:45
  played guard, but he was in his rookie season on that ninety eight team,
• 51:51
  played in a game, so he got a taste of the greatness and
• 51:54
  then went on to kind of bolster that offensive line for what four seasons.
• 52:01
  Looks like maybe he dealt with some injury or lost the starting job at some
• 52:07
  point before being traded away to Arizona. So all right, seventy seven,
• 52:14
  it's a retired Vikings number. Yes, it's retired, and for a good
• 52:17
  reason. Corey Stringer and I'll talk about this later on when we interview Dustin
• 52:25
  Baker, but I referenced this article from the Star Tribune got a little cut
• 52:30
  out here with Randy Moss at Corey Stringer's funeral. He was offensive lineman passed
• 52:38
  away from complications after a heat stroke during Vikings training camp in two thousand.
• 52:45
  Yeah, pretty tragic. Dustin does kind of talk, pretty cool memory how
• 52:49
  he I think he got to meet Corey Stringer a few times really casually too,
• 52:52
  So yeah, again, just to mention tragedy for the Vikings. This
• 52:58
  week's pretty tough too, because it lost Kyrie Jackson, another tragic. I
• 53:04
  feel like this team has been bitten by tragedy a few times in its existence,
• 53:08
  and it kind of sucks, but rightfully so. Seventy seven is retired
• 53:14
  for a guy that would have gone on without question to be the best,
• 53:17
  the best seventy seven in history, but apparently on the field as far as
• 53:22
  stats go, Gary Larson was statistically the best seventy seven in Vikings history with
• 53:30
  an av of eighty five, and he played for the Vikings from sixty five
• 53:35
  to seventy four, so ten seasons. Yeah, yep, there you go,
• 53:39
  all right, a couple more here, seventy eight, seventy eight.
• 53:43
  For me, it's Matt Burke. I don't need to look at any other
• 53:45
  number. There's a couple other names kind of kind of up there too.
• 53:51
  Also, I was wrong earlier, just to kind of back up a little
• 53:54
  bit the number seventy seven. There was a different colepep to wear that number
• 54:00
  in the nineties, three Culpeppers in Viking sister yep So anyway, seventy eight.
• 54:07
  Matt Burke, he is the Pro Football Reference best to ever wear seventy
• 54:10
  seven. Somewhat close behind him, Matt Burke's got a score seventy nine.
• 54:16
  The next up is a score of sixty five. Steve Riley, who played
• 54:21
  for eleven seasons seventy four to eighty four. So I've got Dakota Dozer on
• 54:24
  my list. Yeah, he was a recent Viking. Yeah recent, and
• 54:29
  I mean he started every game in twenty twenty even. Please don't say he
• 54:34
  was good, because he was terrible. And they just didn't leave. They
• 54:37
  didn't go away from him. I know, I know, but he was
• 54:39
  still. He was there. He was there, he was barely there A
• 54:45
  lot of plays he basically was not. He was a turnstile. He was
• 54:50
  there. Again. I'm sure he's a good dude, but man, he
• 54:53
  contributed a lot of sacks against the Vikings in those couple of years. Ibout
• 54:59
  Michael Pearson, how do you feel about him? I don't like that guy.
• 55:04
  He opted out his the COVID year after signing a big free agent contract
• 55:08
  with the Vikings, so a few weeks later opted out for the whole season
• 55:13
  and then never did anything for the Vikings, went back to the Ravens.
• 55:19
  Yeah. So Michael Pierce, again, I'm sure you're a good dude.
• 55:22
  You ended up giving up your number back to Everson Griffin, which I believe
• 55:30
  we'll talk about again later. But you you were a paycheck chaser for the
• 55:36
  Vikings and then you went back to Baltimore. So again, I'm sure you're
• 55:38
  a good dude, but you didn't do my team any good. So seventy
• 55:42
  nine, let's finish out this list. Yeah, all right, seventy nine?
• 55:47
  Was this the other one that this could be one that's still kind of
• 55:51
  very much up for grabs, so come get it. The top one is
• 55:54
  who Doug Martin played for the Vikings from eighty to eighty nine. Defensive end
• 56:00
  and av of fifty six. He's a first round pick in the eighty draft
• 56:05
  for the Vikes. Only ever played for the Vikings. Yeah, defensive end.
• 56:12
  Had eleven and a half sacks in eighty two, arguably his best season.
• 56:16
  Yeah, only played in nine games, only started nine games. Yeah,
• 56:22
  so somebody wants to come and put a stamp on a number. I
• 56:24
  mean, fifty six is respectable, but again Hall of Famer would definitely easily
• 56:30
  take that number over. So come get it. Seventy nine. Yep,
• 56:34
  you said fifty six. Oh I meant if I said fifty six, that
• 56:37
  was Doug Martin's AV score. I see what you're saying. All right.
• 56:42
  Another fun note about that seventy nine number. Former Viking Mike Harris. I
• 56:49
  believe he's the one that ultimately had to retire from football because at some physical
• 56:55
  they found I'm going to get this wrong. It was a a physical something,
• 57:04
  a physical issue. I think it was like a heart defect or something,
• 57:07
  which maybe a neck thing. He had to retire ultimately because it was
• 57:10
  one of those like hey, if you keep playing, this could get you.
• 57:14
  But then he ended up working for the Vikings. He may still work
• 57:16
  for the Vikings. I know for a minute. He was the guy that
• 57:20
  inspected everybody's uniform before they went out on the field for games. So yeah,
• 57:25
  there you go. Well that's going to round out our fourth of five
• 57:30
  weeks in this number series. Yeah, and as we mentioned, a few
• 57:35
  times as we kind of went through that list. We'll chat with Dustin Baker
• 57:39
  here, and at the end of our chat with him, we kind of
• 57:43
  asked him like, hey, what do you think about the best vikings to
• 57:46
  wear some of those numbers from sixty to seventy nine, So he'll give us
• 57:51
  his thoughts on those, and yeah, we had a great time chatting with
• 57:54
  him too, we always do. Yep, you guys will love it.
• 57:57
  It was a good, good chat. So yeah, we're going to transition
• 58:00
  over to that and then we'll catch you on the other side. All right,
• 58:05
  Welcome back to school, hoppers. So we are graced yet again with
• 58:12
  friend of the show, Dustin Baker. Dustin, thanks for coming on again.
• 58:15
  Hell yeah, man, we're less than ten weeks away from the regular
• 58:17
  season. Yeah, I know, we're we're at We're at the room I
• 58:22
  guess, the tail end of the dry spot in the offseason. I always
• 58:24
  consider the fourth of July a symbolic turning of the page too, when kind
• 58:30
  of the NFL site start to put out their their their content for fantasy.
• 58:34
  So as of Friday at least, that's that's when I emotionally am like,
• 58:37
  all right, this is football season from a writing perspective, Yeah, let's
• 58:42
  go especially with like, I mean, what the only sport that's really on
• 58:45
  is baseball? Yeah, I like tennis, so Wimbledon's going on, but
• 58:49
  baseball. Yeah alright, Evans brother in law is a tennis coach in college.
• 58:52
  Sweet, okay, right on, Yeah, all right, Well,
• 58:55
  I guess the w NBA has kind of taken it. Yeah, I rise
• 58:59
  right now. So if you're interested, we're Iowa boys. So we've always
• 59:04
  we've been following the Kaitlyn Clark train for a couple of seasons now, but
• 59:07
  rightfully, so, yeah, yeah, it's been exciting. But we're not
• 59:10
  here to talk about women's basketball. We're here to talk about the Vikings and
• 59:15
  because Dustin has graced us with his presence again and we always love it.
• 59:22
  Thanks again for coming on. Threw some questions at you earlier, and then
• 59:25
  we'll kind of roll you into a segment we've had going the last few weeks,
• 59:30
  and that will have gone I think after this episode, Evan, when
• 59:34
  we got one more after this episode of the jersey number, we got the
• 59:37
  easy one coming up exactly. I'll tell you what the jersey numbers in a
• 59:43
  lot of the thirties and some of the forties that was a pretty dry area.
• 59:47
  Even the fifties. Like to go back, and especially for Evan and
• 59:51
  I were or in the age where the best players to wear a lot of
• 59:54
  those jersey numbers were in like the sixties and seventies. Even you, Dustin,
• 59:59
  you are watching in the six season seventies in there, like none of
• 1:00:01
  us is really we saw we saw names that we've never seen before in some
• 1:00:07
  of those thirties and forties and stuff. So it's a good it's a fun
• 1:00:09
  topic though. We've been having fun with it, all right, so we'll
• 1:00:14
  just dive in. So we got Summer Olympics coming up, and it's not
• 1:00:20
  going to be in this Summer Olympics, but flag football sounds like in twenty
• 1:00:22
  twenty eight is going to be in the Summer Olympics. The next one,
• 1:00:27
  which is kind of interesting, is probably the most I'm not an Olympics guy.
• 1:00:30
  I don't usually watch much, but I'll definitely be watching that. However,
• 1:00:34
  I wanted to get your thoughts if flag football was in the Olympics this
• 1:00:37
  year, who which Viking would be on the team, because it sounds like
• 1:00:42
  NFL players are probably gonna have a shot to be on that team. Yeah.
• 1:00:46
  So the way that I construed this topic is aside from the usual suspects,
• 1:00:52
  I think football is football no matter what. So if you were going
• 1:00:55
  to construct the team, and you know Jefferson wanted to play, of course
• 1:01:00
  you would grab Jefferson and probably Darisol, although I don't know how applicable it
• 1:01:04
  is for a tackle in flag football. So I wanted to look at this
• 1:01:07
  from a different angle, and because I'm a novice at flag football, I
• 1:01:13
  looked at speed. So I would take some of the guys that are on
• 1:01:16
  the naughty list right now for the vikings and transplant them to the flag football
• 1:01:21
  vikings Olympics. So right out of the gate, that would be Jalen Naylor.
• 1:01:24
  Not that he's really on a naughty list, it's just that we don't
• 1:01:27
  know if he's going to win WR three. I had a show last night
• 1:01:30
  on my YouTube show of vikes. Now, I guess Sean Kenner claims Jeila
• 1:01:34
  Naylor's gonna be out right cut. That's what the whole episode was about.
• 1:01:37
  That's his hot take. But I wouldn't do that for these purposes, nor
• 1:01:39
  would I probably cut him for the regular season. Jalen Naylor is built.
• 1:01:45
  His reputation is built upon speed. When he first got drafted, I talked
• 1:01:49
  to him on a different show with Ryan McKinney, and he was a real
• 1:01:51
  cool dude, and he even touted his speed. That's what he's known for.
• 1:01:54
  So I'd be sure to make him the WR two on my flag football
• 1:01:59
  team. Lewis he is an athletic animal, and we're low on him right
• 1:02:04
  now because the Vikings probably won't keep seven safeties. He didn't play much last
• 1:02:07
  year and then he had the injury in his rookie year. But if we're
• 1:02:10
  gonna play flag football, I want a mean guy like that who's also really
• 1:02:15
  fast for a safety. And then if we are going to get really sexy
• 1:02:20
  with the flag football bit, I would take ty Chandler over Aaron Jones because
• 1:02:23
  of you guessed at speed. Ty Chandler is one thing Vikings fans don't talk
• 1:02:29
  about enough because he's just recently risen to semi prominence as ty Chandler as fast
• 1:02:35
  as hell, and I think we're just so used to him being better than
• 1:02:38
  Alexander Madison that we're like, yeah, let's keep him. He's also really
• 1:02:42
  fast. So in the off chance that Aaron Jones gets hurt and we have
• 1:02:45
  to showcase Chandler as an RB one, the guy has the speed and so
• 1:02:50
  on the Olympic flag football, give me Chandler certainly over Aaron Jones, because
• 1:02:54
  Jones is about to hit the dreaded age of thirty in December. Yeah,
• 1:02:58
  yeah, Jones will not be playing age eight when the next Summer Olympics comes
• 1:03:05
  around. Evan, do you have any any guys you can think of off
• 1:03:08
  the top of your head that might be you would be on the team if
• 1:03:10
  it was this year. Definitely on board with speed. I think prioritizing speed
• 1:03:17
  in flag football. I like Brandon Powell maybe because he's small. I think
• 1:03:22
  a smaller, shiftier player might be really beneficial. You can kind of be
• 1:03:27
  more elusive that way, get away from people trying to grab the flags and
• 1:03:30
  make the tackles that way. So yeah, he'd be another one that I'd
• 1:03:35
  add to the list. Didn't we forget any well, so I was going
• 1:03:38
  to go a little little outside the box. I think a guy if we're
• 1:03:45
  just looking at Vikings, I think Nick Mullins would be pretty fun to watch
• 1:03:49
  because he can really I mean, he's a gunslinger. You know, you
• 1:03:52
  can shift around, don't have to worry about too much getting tackled. It
• 1:03:54
  would just be ripping the flag off. But he he was the guy Dustin
• 1:03:59
  you said it before. Or if it's third and twenty and if Nick Mullens
• 1:04:02
  is back there, he got a good chance he's gonna Oh yeah, I
• 1:04:04
  have no fear at all. So I feel like these receivers too, would
• 1:04:10
  be pretty pretty fearless. So if you got Justin Jefferson out there, who's
• 1:04:15
  already gonna jump up a thousand yards in the air and catch any ball that's
• 1:04:17
  around him, I mean, Nick Mullens, there would be other better quarterbacks
• 1:04:21
  in the league. But if we're just looking at Vikings right now, he
• 1:04:26
  gotta be fun because you know, just that guns like in your mindset.
• 1:04:29
  Yeah, and you could, uh, he could, he could be one.
• 1:04:30
  It almost feels like you'd have an expansion draft type of thing. And
• 1:04:33
  we really wouldn't care if Nick Mullens was to go play flag football, where
• 1:04:36
  everybody else we're like, non dose is anything stupid and get hurt? Yeah,
• 1:04:40
  the other the other two guys merchants. While we're on the topic,
• 1:04:44
  really quietly Lucky Jackson is faster than Cheetah too leading up to his I guess
• 1:04:49
  out of college. I don't know if he technically would say lead up to
• 1:04:51
  his draft because he's undrafted. In twenty twenty, he ran a four to
• 1:04:54
  three six and so his speed isn't appreciated by fans. And then Knayan wong
• 1:04:58
  Wu, if there's a killer and earn flight boo ball, you got to
• 1:05:00
  have him on the team. So that's my basically, the all speed team
• 1:05:02
  is mine. Nice all right. So the last couple of days, really
• 1:05:09
  I think yesterday, and since this high quality workout video came out in the
• 1:05:15
  last week or so, Vikings fans have had a lot of fun with like,
• 1:05:17
  oh, what if what if Feeling came back to the team when we
• 1:05:21
  got him back from the Panthers. It's crazy, it won't happen, right,
• 1:05:27
  But how how realistic is that idea? Is it? Is it a
• 1:05:30
  one that will never happen or a ten like we should be pulling out the
• 1:05:34
  nineteens again? What do you think destinh No, it's certainly not a like.
• 1:05:41
  So there's a lot of theories that circulate Viking Twitter and the Viking social
• 1:05:45
  media orbit in general that we're like, really, you're talking about that,
• 1:05:47
  And I'm the first to say, let's be serious people. No, I
• 1:05:49
  don't think this one is ridiculous, But I also don't think it's imminent or
• 1:05:54
  there's really any plan. The Adam Feelin thing is intriguing because, let's face
• 1:05:59
  it, if you followed any Vikings content in the last two weeks, it
• 1:06:02
  seems like he's still on the team. He feels exactly like a player who's
• 1:06:06
  on the team because he's thrown with the rookie quarterback, he's going on k
• 1:06:10
  with PA, he's talking about how great McCarthy is. It feels like he
• 1:06:14
  has never left. So I think that is the intriguing part that says,
• 1:06:17
  you know, this is kind of weird. Is he trying to hint at
• 1:06:19
  something? Well, no, you can't flirt with another team while you're on
• 1:06:24
  another different team. But the reason that I won't rule this one out is
• 1:06:28
  there's a couple of reasons for it. In my opinion, they're decent reasons.
• 1:06:32
  So the Panthers last year, Adam Field was their wr one, their
• 1:06:38
  bel cow, because the only thing they really had otherwise that was established was
• 1:06:41
  DJ Shark and he's pretty mid. But now they got Deontay Johnson, and
• 1:06:45
  at this point Deontay Johnson's career, he's better and more prolific than DeLand currently
• 1:06:50
  is. Maybe not when we compare careers in ten twelve years, but he
• 1:06:55
  is a better asset right now. And then they drafted Xavier Lagett or Lagetti,
• 1:06:59
  however you say his last name. So there are two new wide receivers
• 1:07:01
  for the Panthers on top of what could be considered already a little crowded with
• 1:07:06
  Jonathan Mingo, Terrorist Marshall, Amir Smith Marsett plays there. Ye, so
• 1:07:12
  last year Theelan could waltz onto that team, go three and fourteen or whatever
• 1:07:15
  they finished, and still get his first thousand yard season since twenty eighteen.
• 1:07:19
  Now, however, they've they've beefed up the arsenal like they probably should have
• 1:07:24
  done last year. Therefore, because Stelen is about to be thirty four years
• 1:07:29
  old, he's more expendable now than he was last year. You would like
• 1:07:33
  right now, it's probably perfect for him to be the Panthers WR three,
• 1:07:38
  behind the upside of Lagett or Lagetti and then Deontay Johnson, who should be
• 1:07:42
  the WR one. So there is a chance that somebody like Mingo looks great
• 1:07:45
  in the summer, or the Panthers realize that why do we have this guy
• 1:07:48
  who's thirty four, and that in that sense they'd have to eat about eight
• 1:07:54
  nine million bucks. But they could move on from from him, you know,
• 1:07:57
  in late August, and I would I would bet money the Vikings with
• 1:08:00
  pounds if that would happen, because he's the hometown kid and we think the
• 1:08:03
  team needs a WR three. The other reason is because we need a WR
• 1:08:09
  three, or at least that's the perception among fans, because we have the
• 1:08:11
  big mystery about who's it gonna be. He's really gettable. Let's say the
• 1:08:15
  Panthers have done everything I just said and want to go younger and think that
• 1:08:20
  they have better options. Adam Thielen shouldn't be hard to get via trade.
• 1:08:25
  If the Vikings get into the first week of August and think, shit,
• 1:08:29
  we forgot about WR three this whole off season. Boys, Yeah, what
• 1:08:31
  are we gonna do? You can get feeling for a conditional sixth round or
• 1:08:35
  so because his contract's a little bloated for somebody that old, and then you
• 1:08:42
  know he's just going to continue to get older, obviously, so you balance
• 1:08:45
  the Vikings lack of draft capital for trades plus possibly needing a WR three,
• 1:08:50
  which they have a perceived weakness, and then the hometown angle that says,
• 1:08:55
  hey, you played for the Vikings for almost a decade, why don't you
• 1:08:58
  come back. All of those those figures like to me coagulate to say it's
• 1:09:02
  not unheard of that Felon will be back. And then finally, as a
• 1:09:05
  tidbit, let's say we're this is all just cockamamie. It's not gonna happen.
• 1:09:09
  The Panthers can easily move on from feeling at the end of this year,
• 1:09:13
  and then if Felon wanted to come back at age thirty five and be
• 1:09:16
  the WR four WR three, depending on how he does this year, it
• 1:09:19
  would be very easy to obtain him next offseason. Yeah, it's funny.
• 1:09:25
  You just basically summarized one of your recent Vikings territory Weird how that goes?
• 1:09:30
  Huh it's ready today? Yeah, I only encourage our listeners to go check
• 1:09:34
  out Vikings territory. I think we send we say it a lot. I
• 1:09:39
  don't know how many skullh happers we send your way but thank you Biking's territory.
• 1:09:43
  That one was a good article. There's a ton more. So it's
• 1:09:45
  funny to hear you. You obviously feel you believe the words you're typing out
• 1:09:50
  because you just said said this one. It just it's it's the big part
• 1:09:57
  of the WR three. Like if they had basically if even if they had
• 1:10:02
  like Javon Baker, the rookie on the Patriots, they had a guy like
• 1:10:05
  that, I'd be like, Nah, you don't want to go to a
• 1:10:06
  thirty four year old when you got the guy you already drafted. They just
• 1:10:10
  don't have anybody unless Brandon Powell is the real deal. And then there's just
• 1:10:15
  the sneaking suspension that before it's all said and done, Feelin's probably going to
• 1:10:17
  come back, whether it's for a final season or one of those one day
• 1:10:20
  contracts. And if he's going to be orphaned, it makes all the sense
• 1:10:25
  in the world to go to the team that needs a WR three and with
• 1:10:29
  the guy who happens to love the rookie quarterback already. Yeah, Evan,
• 1:10:33
  purely from a fan, from a heart stance, what would what would you
• 1:10:39
  want? Are you ready just to see what we've got? In DeShawn Jones
• 1:10:44
  and Brandon Powell and Jalen Naylor, Or would you be like, all right,
• 1:10:47
  come back at him. You're my only Vikings jersey. I need to
• 1:10:50
  root for you again. What do you think I mean? Yeah, you're
• 1:10:55
  really talking on my heartstrings there. You bought that jersey for me because you
• 1:11:01
  knew that I had said, and I think I had said on the podcast
• 1:11:05
  at some point that if I wanted to get a jersey, that would be
• 1:11:10
  one of the ones that I would consider, just because Adam Thielen's been just
• 1:11:14
  a staple in the Vikings franchise for most of my adult fanhood. I mean,
• 1:11:19
  I would definitely be excited if he came back. That would be I
• 1:11:24
  think there would be there would be some mixed feelings among the general fan base,
• 1:11:30
  but I think all in all, he'd be welcomed back. I think
• 1:11:32
  a lot of people would say, yuh, it'd be great if he could
• 1:11:36
  retire as a Viking. I think he's done quite a bit for the organization
• 1:11:43
  and for the community of the Twin Cities. I think he's just generally pretty
• 1:11:46
  well liked and respected. I don't think there would be a lot of negative
• 1:11:50
  emotions with that, but the age is certainly a factor in terms of what
• 1:11:58
  you can do on the field. And yeah, he had a pretty decent
• 1:12:01
  season last year, but there wasn't much happening in Carolina to speak up anyways,
• 1:12:05
  So I don't know it would be interesting. I don't know that he
• 1:12:11
  fits that wide receiver three need that the Vikings currently have. I think he'd
• 1:12:17
  be kind of a fringe player at best to fill that role, maybe more
• 1:12:21
  of a wide receiver four. Yeah. The reason that the divorce happened in
• 1:12:27
  general after the twenty twenty two season is because the Vikings, in my opinion,
• 1:12:30
  no longer deemed him worthy of WR two and about a being a couple
• 1:12:34
  months later, about six weeks later, they'd drafted Jordan Adison. There you
• 1:12:38
  go, you have your WR two. So it wasn't a messy split.
• 1:12:41
  It was just that, hey, we don't want to pay you this much
• 1:12:44
  money, ab we don't think that you should be WR two anymore. Well,
• 1:12:47
  that awkward conversation is done. So if the Vikings think that he can
• 1:12:51
  do a bang up job of WR three, there's just a lot of boxes
• 1:12:56
  that are easily checked that I can't rule this one out. Yeah, if
• 1:13:00
  it were Madden, he would already be on the team. You probably would
• 1:13:05
  have got a better free agent or a drafted a guy maybe, Yeah,
• 1:13:10
  that's what I would have done. Yeah. Well, speaking of incoming free
• 1:13:14
  agents, the Vikings signed Andrew Van Ginkle. Right, that's his first name.
• 1:13:17
  Yep, suddenly terrified that I got his first name wrong. Did you
• 1:13:20
  another Iowa guy? Wrong? I know he's uh, that's he's from the
• 1:13:26
  other side of the state. The rock around of the date right now closer
• 1:13:30
  to me. Yeah, that's true. We're gonna ask if you if you
• 1:13:32
  guys have been getting a lot of flooding, you're oh, yeah, my
• 1:13:34
  basement was inundated about a week and a half ago. You know, yeah,
• 1:13:38
  it really man, Well, I'm sorry about that. But anyways,
• 1:13:43
  Andrew Van Ginkle. Another Vikings Territory article I read today kind of talked about
• 1:13:50
  how it's kind of really good that we ended up with Dallas Turner, not
• 1:13:56
  just because you know, he's Dallas Turner. He's a good rookie, good
• 1:13:59
  player, but he's going to be needed probably it looks like he's going to
• 1:14:02
  be needed a lot earlier than we expected, just because Van yinkel a Flores
• 1:14:06
  guy, you know, probably B plus level type free agent, good guy.
• 1:14:14
  He's injured and we're not really too sure when he's going to be coming
• 1:14:17
  in. Is he already kind of entering the free agent bust category before they
• 1:14:24
  even you know, suit up for training camp. Well, I'll say,
• 1:14:28
  because we even have this question, you can tell we have deep scars from
• 1:14:30
  Marcus Davenport. That's for damn sure, No, he's not. So I
• 1:14:34
  think what we realized is why we got him on the affordable deal that we
• 1:14:39
  did, because he basically if he's going to have an injury plagued off season
• 1:14:44
  or a wait and see, it explains why you could get a starting caliber
• 1:14:47
  edge rusher for two years and twenty million. That's that's pretty cheap these days.
• 1:14:51
  So I think that is the first little hint that I remember when I
• 1:14:54
  saw that deal. I think I might even set on the show that was
• 1:14:57
  like my favorite move of the off season because it was an affordable deal for
• 1:15:00
  a starting edge rusher. And then to your point here, getting Dallas Turner
• 1:15:04
  Beninkle turned into gravy. No, there's I guess there's a path for him
• 1:15:10
  to be like Marcus Davenport, but that would really be an indictment on the
• 1:15:13
  front office if they swung and missed two years in a row on their their
• 1:15:15
  free agent edge plan. But no, Van Ginkel is really good. I
• 1:15:19
  don't know if you've peeped his PFF scores last year, it was like otherworldly.
• 1:15:24
  We talk about like Olympians. He had like an Olympic score of like
• 1:15:27
  ninety two or some pf F grade like that. But yeah, he was
• 1:15:30
  hurt down the stretch like almost every Dolphin's edge rusher. I don't know if
• 1:15:33
  you remember that before the playoff game, they were signing like guys who were
• 1:15:38
  good in twenty fourteen to play edge rusher. I think it was like justin
• 1:15:40
  Houston or those types of maybe Melvin Ingram, whoever it was. They were
• 1:15:45
  getting relics off the street. So yeah, it's philz Frank injury. Yeah,
• 1:15:48
  it's an eye roll, I think just right now. And because of
• 1:15:53
  our recent paranoia about an injury permeating the season or Davenport just not coming back
• 1:15:59
  from an ankle stre we tend to be a little there too. Yeah,
• 1:16:02
  we tend to be a little more fragile at this point on the calendar.
• 1:16:05
  But here is the unsung part of the offseason that doesn't get touted enough,
• 1:16:09
  and I'm gonna continue to do it on whatever shows that I'm on. We
• 1:16:12
  went from like March fifteenth or sixteenth, thinking the deal Hunter is gone.
• 1:16:17
  Well, you know, before that, they signed Jonathan Grenard Andrew van Ginkel.
• 1:16:21
  Then by the way, they drafted Dallas Turner. They also still have
• 1:16:24
  Patrick Jones on the roster. They signed jahad Ward. Andre Carter was last
• 1:16:28
  year's UDFA guy, and then this year's UDFA guy is Gabriel Murphy. That's
• 1:16:31
  like seven humans that have a case to play on Sundays and order to make
• 1:16:38
  the active roster. So for the first time and about a deck, but
• 1:16:41
  for the first time since the Neil Hunter started to get good whenever your perception
• 1:16:44
  of that is probably twenty fifteen. The Vikings have a lot of edge rushing
• 1:16:47
  depth, So I would love for Van Ginkle for this thing just to be
• 1:16:51
  a nothing burger. And then by the preseason we're like, yeah, remember
• 1:16:54
  we were paranoid that he wasn't gonna play, but if he has to miss
• 1:16:57
  time for once, the Vikings have a lot of options at edge rusher.
• 1:17:00
  It's not just a Neil Hunter and then somebody else like DJ Wantum, and
• 1:17:05
  then you're down to Nubbins. It's a lot of guys that you can plug
• 1:17:09
  and play, and so much so that I think there's gonna be some awkward
• 1:17:12
  roster cuts because you can't keep seven edge rushers. I don't think so that
• 1:17:16
  means either Patrick Jones got to go, Andre Carter's got to go to practice.
• 1:17:19
  Squad jahad Ward was a really quick one and done or like point zero
• 1:17:24
  two when done. There's a lot of edge rushers on this team, and
• 1:17:28
  that's a good problem to have. Do you think that that crowded room would
• 1:17:31
  kind of affect a decision on maybe like putting him on the pupp list Van
• 1:17:36
  Ginkle, even though maybe he's probably looking at three let's say he was looking
• 1:17:41
  at two, three, four weeks, But maybe they'd edge towards putting him
• 1:17:45
  on the pup list just to get that roster spot, even though it would
• 1:17:48
  mean Van Ginkle would be out what it guaranteed theoretical six weeks, just to
• 1:17:54
  kind of make it prolong that awkward decision on who to get rid of and
• 1:17:58
  who you get to keep. Yeah, I see that as a viable option.
• 1:18:01
  I'm not willing to predict it as outcome yet because it lives frank injury
• 1:18:06
  and Hawkinson's torn acl or two different items, like I understand why Hockinson won't
• 1:18:11
  be back right away, lives Frank thing as usually takes a little less.
• 1:18:15
  So I'm not really that pessimistic. But in defense of what you just stated,
• 1:18:20
  the Vikings under this regime now have a documented track record of being very
• 1:18:26
  cautious with injuries. I don't know if you remember, was it twenty twenty
• 1:18:29
  one when Adam Thielen got hurt and then he came back for a game and
• 1:18:33
  it was very evident that he shouldn't be playing and I don't know how the
• 1:18:36
  trainers clear him. We don't have that shit anymore. We have the other
• 1:18:41
  end of the spectrum, where it takes Justin Jefferson seven weeks to recover from
• 1:18:45
  something that sounded like he was good to go after about a month. They're
• 1:18:47
  ultra cautious. So in that thing, I can see, yeah, you
• 1:18:51
  might as well to throw him on the puff because we already got job war,
• 1:18:54
  we got Gabriel Murphy. That can work. But I don't think it's
• 1:18:58
  that that dire. I don't think quazy a Doppa Mensa and back to back
• 1:19:01
  off seasons would make the same mistake twice by getting into bed with a guy
• 1:19:06
  with injury. I mean Van gel doesn't have like a long injury history.
• 1:19:10
  It's just this one with the Dolphin soul. Yeah, the pup list is
• 1:19:14
  in play, but it's not quite as ironclad as we we think. Hawkinson
• 1:19:17
  is. All right, well, we'll hold that to you. I'll hold
• 1:19:20
  you to that. Yeah, I'll do some Paul work before next month.
• 1:19:23
  I'll talk to a couple of my people and see what they say. Sounds
• 1:19:27
  good. I got a quick interjection here because you wrote another article. While
• 1:19:30
  we're just kind of just riffing off of all the things you've written and published
• 1:19:33
  today, you wrote another article about Aaron Jones possibly being this bust potential.
• 1:19:44
  Who's more likely to be in that category? Are we looking? You know,
• 1:19:47
  in a couple of months down the road from now, Van Ginkel or
• 1:19:53
  Aaron Jones, Who's who's more likely to end up in that category? Do
• 1:19:56
  you think at this point? Let's see Van Ginkle I think just turned twenty
• 1:20:00
  nine, like yesterday, it was his birthday yesterday, so in edge rushers
• 1:20:04
  or maybe it's twenty and I have to look it up real quick. Can
• 1:20:06
  edge rusher speak that isn't very old? So you can't quite assign these twenty
• 1:20:12
  nine Yep, you can't quite assign the injury or the age related fears.
• 1:20:15
  To Van Ginkel that article you mentioned, Dave Ricard from CBS Sports did an
• 1:20:20
  article on fantasy busts, and Aaron Jones made the cut because something we don't
• 1:20:27
  talk about very often in Vikingsville is Aaron Jones's first like part of the season,
• 1:20:32
  almost like first two thirds sucked for the Packers last year. We're talking
• 1:20:36
  like Alexander Madison level of rushing outputs. Now. The Packers fan probably don't
• 1:20:42
  care now, but they would have told you last year, while he's been
• 1:20:44
  hurt, wait till he gets healthy, Bata Bang. He has five wonderful
• 1:20:46
  games to help him get to the postseason and then beat the Cowboys in the
• 1:20:50
  playoffs. If I had to guess a bust, first of all, I
• 1:20:55
  don't think either one of them or like you know, there's got to be
• 1:20:57
  one, But I would say I would agree with Dave reccard at CBS Sports
• 1:21:00
  because Aaron Jones right now, we're in the honeymoon with him, where all
• 1:21:04
  we think about is how good he looked in December and January. But all
• 1:21:09
  running backs get hurt, even ones that are like twenty one, and Jones
• 1:21:13
  is twenty nine. So more likely to be a bus would be Aaron Jones
• 1:21:16
  because running backs simply get hurt more frequently. Even when they're having a great
• 1:21:20
  year and they're durable guys, They're gonna miss a little time. And then
• 1:21:24
  I just don't have a lot of fear about Andrew van Ginkel for the long
• 1:21:30
  term. We just have kind of bolked him together with t J. Hockinson
• 1:21:34
  and said, oh god, they're gonna have the two long haired white guys
• 1:21:38
  are going to miss the start of the season. I don't think. I
• 1:21:40
  don't think that is a necessary fear. But if I had to choose,
• 1:21:43
  I would say it's more likely that Aaron Jones gets hobbled sometime early in the
• 1:21:47
  season, and then we'd really get an audition to see if ty Chandler can
• 1:21:51
  carry the RB one load. Yeah. Yet, to me, Aaron Jones,
• 1:21:56
  I mean anything at all that he does good for the Viking, it's
• 1:22:00
  just icing on the cake. I'm not a huge believer in thinking he's gonna
• 1:22:05
  be this big contributor for the Vikings. I'm not banking on it. Just
• 1:22:11
  very exactly what you just said. He's going to get injured. I mean,
• 1:22:15
  he's gonna be a thirty year old running back at one point in the
• 1:22:17
  season, and it's I think it's just inevitable he's gonna get injured, and
• 1:22:23
  thirty year old running backs, unless your name is Adrian Peterson, don't produce
• 1:22:29
  anymore. It just that position is so thankless a lot of times, and
• 1:22:34
  it gets beat down every single play, and they just they can't keep it
• 1:22:41
  up for year after year after year. So I always say, hashtag don't
• 1:22:45
  pay running backs. Yeah, and that's why I was surprised he did it.
• 1:22:48
  Yeah, I'm glad he's not a twenty million dollars a year guy.
• 1:22:53
  So if he gets one one hundred yard rushing game, I'll be jumping for
• 1:22:58
  joy. Obviously probably gonna do more than that, but I'm not expecting a
• 1:23:01
  whole ton from me. Yeah, I would. I would challenge your viewers
• 1:23:05
  sometime during when they're bored, go look at his game log last year.
• 1:23:10
  He didn't get good until Christmas Eve, and then he was unbelievably blazing hot.
• 1:23:16
  But if you really think Vikings fans are gonna have the patients and tell
• 1:23:20
  Christmas for their running back to get good, you haven't been around too many
• 1:23:24
  Vikings fans. So I guess what we'll hope is that his shitty games were
• 1:23:30
  just a magical bride byproduct of being hobbled for the whole almost whole season,
• 1:23:34
  and we'll hope the change of scenery is different. But I am very enthusiastic
• 1:23:40
  that he became a defector and he's on the Vikings and we have like a
• 1:23:44
  two or three pronged solution to finally fix this ground game. But I am
• 1:23:47
  not quite like gung ho like some of the world's on, like hey,
• 1:23:50
  Prianmaron Jones is gonna tear it up. That would be sweet, but I'm
• 1:23:53
  not banking on it. Yeah, he did look really good in that purple
• 1:23:57
  sombrero though. Yeah, I'm still trying to get over the first time he
• 1:24:02
  took his hat off, like I couldn't believe that he had corn rolls that
• 1:24:08
  started like back here. I was like, I was like, what's going
• 1:24:11
  on here? Why can't he just do what I did and give it up?
• 1:24:14
  But yeah, that's his jam. It looks really sweet coming out of
• 1:24:15
  the helmet. But yeah, when I first saw him take off his hat
• 1:24:19
  to put on the sombrero, I was like, well, what happened there?
• 1:24:23
  No, he just got a unique hairstyle. Yeah, it's interesting.
• 1:24:27
  I'm rooting for him. I'm just me too. I'm not expecting a whole
• 1:24:30
  ton Maybe it's maybe that's my Vikings fan condition coming out in me, Like
• 1:24:33
  I'm just already expecting the worst. So you can't hurt me. I'm already
• 1:24:38
  hurting myself. So go Aaron Jones, go off, have a day,
• 1:24:42
  have a career with the Vikings. But I just I can't put my heart
• 1:24:45
  into that. I don't I can't believe it. So all right, Well,
• 1:24:50
  Evan and I we've been going through the last few weeks a little off
• 1:24:55
  season series. I've said it a few times, this is a this offseason
• 1:24:59
  is going eight so far because we haven't had somebody get arrested. We haven't
• 1:25:03
  had anybody like the Chiefs defensive tackle. They got arrested twice within a few
• 1:25:09
  weeks, and then they've ended up cut at cutting him. This is a
• 1:25:13
  good time to have no headlines for your favorite football team because nothing bad's happening.
• 1:25:18
  So because of that, we're kind of scrounging for topics to have on
• 1:25:23
  a weekly basis. So we've been going through listing out each jersey number about
• 1:25:30
  what have we done about twenty per episode and kind of listing the best players
• 1:25:35
  in Vikings history to have worn that jersey number. So this episode right now,
• 1:25:42
  we are going through number sixty through seventy nine. So there's elite offensive
• 1:25:47
  linemen, Brincklin, a few defensive tackles in there too, But Dustin,
• 1:25:54
  I just I'm interested in that group of numbers, those twenty numbers. What
• 1:26:00
  are a few guys that kind of jump out to you as like, oh,
• 1:26:02
  yeah, he was one of the best Vikings of all time, obviously
• 1:26:05
  the best one to wear whatever number. So not every number, Yeah,
• 1:26:09
  we're doing that separately, but who jumps out at you? Yeah? I
• 1:26:13
  put some homework into this. The first one, beyond the Shadow of Doubt
• 1:26:17
  that belongs on this list with no debates is Randall McDaniel and number sixty four.
• 1:26:23
  It's funny I have Randall McDaniel jersey and I was wearing it for something
• 1:26:27
  and one of my coworkers at Viking's territory saw me in a picture, Who's
• 1:26:30
  like, you wear a Blake Brandal jersey and I'm like, oh no,
• 1:26:31
  no. And this was last year before anything about Brandall was cool man.
• 1:26:35
  Yeah, but no, Randall McDaniel, if you're gonna do one of those
• 1:26:41
  Vikings Mount Rushmore's, it's really hard to leave him off of it. And
• 1:26:45
  I think the only reason that he isn't basically named the greatest Viking of all
• 1:26:50
  time is because he plays guard and you know his job is just to do
• 1:26:54
  this for three hours every Sunday. But the Randall McDaniel has more Pro bowls
• 1:26:59
  than any Viking and Viking and Viking's history. Yeah, that's eleven of him,
• 1:27:02
  and he has more all pros than any Viking and Viking history. And
• 1:27:06
  so if you want to base it off of longevity, longevity, health,
• 1:27:10
  performance, consistency, if you can get over the fact that he was just
• 1:27:14
  a guard, Rydald McDaniel is probably the best Viking of all time if you
• 1:27:16
  want to compare resumes. So if he for sure gets the nod in this
• 1:27:20
  spot, ron Yari, he was number seventy three. He had seven straight
• 1:27:26
  Pro bowls, so at the peak of his powers, he for sure would
• 1:27:29
  get the nod here. And then there was another There was a linebacker named
• 1:27:32
  Roy Winston. He was number sixty. He was kind of like Chad Greenway
• 1:27:38
  of his day. He never had the accolades that would get him to the
• 1:27:40
  Hall of Fame or to consistently get Pro Bowls, But those three guys would
• 1:27:45
  make my all time list between sixty and seventy nine. I can't go without
• 1:27:48
  saying Jared Allen at number sixty nine, he would probably be if we were
• 1:27:53
  doing a show of the top three guys with this jersey range, Jared Allen
• 1:27:57
  would have to be in that three. So that's obvious for me. Gary
• 1:28:00
  Zimmerman he was coming up when I was young. He made three Pro Bowls
• 1:28:05
  and he was number sixty five. Another guard, and then my guy Brian
• 1:28:10
  McKinney one Pro Bowl. He wore number seventy four. And somehow with all
• 1:28:14
  these guys I'm naming off, I got different jersey numbers. So McKenny famously
• 1:28:19
  solidified the left side of the line for a decade before he went to go
• 1:28:23
  win a Super Bowl with the Ravens. He would be up there and I
• 1:28:25
  don't know that there's another better seventy four than him, And then I wanted
• 1:28:29
  to do honorable mention on the current team with Christian Darresaw at seventy one and
• 1:28:32
  Brian O'Neil at seventy five. So the topic or the number range you guys
• 1:28:38
  assigned me was basically a bunch of offensive linemen plus Runs Winston on Jared Allen.
• 1:28:44
  But yeah, it's a real cool subject. Yeah, and go figure.
• 1:28:47
  It didn't occur to me until you said it. You actually have a
• 1:28:49
  working relationship with number seventy four too. Oh yeah, yeah, Brian.
• 1:28:56
  I have been doing the Believe In Viking show now for four years, and
• 1:29:00
  sometimes I look back on that. I remember how new I was when that
• 1:29:04
  came together, and now I now I just can consider him somebody that I
• 1:29:09
  would text to say, Hey, what's going on, buddy. That's how
• 1:29:13
  far that's come. But yeah, he's a wonderful dude, And yeah he'd
• 1:29:15
  have to be on there at number seventy four. Yeah, yeah, that's
• 1:29:17
  super cool. I've never heard like about him personally, like being a dude.
• 1:29:23
  I've never heard a bad thing about Brian. He seems like one of
• 1:29:27
  the coolest form of itsings. Of Alta well that he has so many friends.
• 1:29:30
  It's weird because I can say, hey, like it just name drops
• 1:29:34
  somebody on accident, and he'll be like, oh, yeah, I knew
• 1:29:36
  of him. There was one time where what was it, Oh okay.
• 1:29:43
  So I don't know if you know this, but Brian McKinney is friends with
• 1:29:45
  Serena Williams and Vince Williams. Yeah, they're like lifelong friends from some type
• 1:29:49
  of connection. And a couple of years ago, Bryant was doing the NFL
• 1:29:56
  choir on America's Got Talent and it was like a a men's choir, it
• 1:30:00
  was, and they actually got pretty far in that little tournament. And we
• 1:30:03
  were talking on the show about you know, what are your chances of winning?
• 1:30:08
  And I said, top of my head, I was like, you
• 1:30:11
  should have Serena Williams retweet the America's Got Talent thing, And I was like,
• 1:30:15
  wait a second. I was like. I was like, I was
• 1:30:16
  like, but she knows Lebron. You should have Lebron retweeted, and he
• 1:30:20
  laughed and he goes, oh, I know Lebron and I was like,
• 1:30:23
  oh, yeah, of course you do. And I was trying to like
• 1:30:25
  find him a degree of separation to Lebron. He's like no, He's like,
• 1:30:28
  I'm like, I played in Miami, man, I know Lebron.
• 1:30:30
  So yeah, that's that's one of my mini Brian McKinney stories. I think
• 1:30:33
  one of my favorite is I think you even said it the first time you're
• 1:30:36
  on the school hot you were talking about Brian McKinney, and that you mentioned
• 1:30:42
  something about Randy Moss, like I would be kind of cool to have Randy
• 1:30:45
  Moss or talk. He started texting him next week. Yeah, yeah,
• 1:30:49
  and that that like I didn't know the full theft of mckenny's power at the
• 1:30:55
  time. I was still new and just kind of like beyond my best behavior,
• 1:30:59
  and yeah, yeah, I was like I off handedly I was like,
• 1:31:01
  god, I'd be sweet, you can have him on the show sometime.
• 1:31:03
  And I don't think he said anything in that specific moment, but he
• 1:31:06
  started texting and it would almost be like me and you messaging, where like
• 1:31:11
  I was like, hey, hey, can you want to come on my
• 1:31:13
  show? And that's that's how he and Moss were and yeah, it lined
• 1:31:16
  up within two weeks and same but same thing with Adrian Peterson. I think
• 1:31:21
  Culpepper is going to come on this summer. He just knows all of those
• 1:31:24
  guys. And this isn't limited the Vikings. I mean he knows everybody from
• 1:31:28
  University of Miami. He knows all the players from the Ravens because of the
• 1:31:31
  Ravens days. Yeah, it's really cool. Well, I always have fun
• 1:31:35
  just living vicariously through you, and it's to talk to all these people.
• 1:31:41
  That's awesome. Last thing that kind of popped into me, I mean in
• 1:31:45
  my mind here really quick. As we've been doing this season this series,
• 1:31:48
  Evan and I have noticed there's a few numbers that it's like, hey,
• 1:31:53
  if you're an up and coming Viking and you really want to make your mark,
• 1:31:56
  and maybe you don't care as much about what number you have, you
• 1:31:59
  just want to own a number if you want to, like, if you
• 1:32:02
  get like two Pro Bowls, you'll automatically be the best at that number of
• 1:32:06
  all. Yeah, Vikings, can you can you think of any in that
• 1:32:10
  sixty to seventy nine group that somebody could really come in and own it?
• 1:32:15
  And we won't hold you to this because there's a chance you could say like,
• 1:32:18
  oh, this number and it's like, oh, somebody from the seventies
• 1:32:21
  went to yeah, let's see, yeah, this is this is probably the
• 1:32:26
  most challenging one to do this because who the hell knows what guards number were
• 1:32:30
  in the ninety Probably, let's see, probably seventy two. I don't know
• 1:32:39
  if there is a big name. I'm gonna I'm gonna hate this. If
• 1:32:42
  you guys find like, oh, yeah, this guard seventy two, I'm
• 1:32:45
  woulda say, yeah, probably seventy two, and then oh, man six,
• 1:32:56
  maybe sixty eight two had that Anthony Herrera or somebody oh yeah yeah,
• 1:33:01
  or sixty sixty sevens at Ingram that keeps standing out in my head. No,
• 1:33:05
  sixty yeah, I'm gonna say seventy two, look that one up.
• 1:33:12
  I want to say a lot of the seventies are taken because of decent,
• 1:33:15
  offensive tackles, and then sixty eight standing out to me, but I don't
• 1:33:18
  know if that's for a good reason. So I'm going to bank my reputation
• 1:33:21
  on seventy two. Heavan, did you look it up? Or we're gonna
• 1:33:25
  have to go back and ask our stand guy. That was a good a
• 1:33:29
  good selection. So seventy two just some names that stand out to me.
• 1:33:34
  Ezra Cleveland had that for the three years that he was with the Vikings and
• 1:33:45
  James White. He was prominent in the late seventies early eighties. Oh,
• 1:33:49
  I think I'm doing all right. Other than that, Yeah, seventy two
• 1:33:54
  is pretty good. The other one sixty eight. Yeah, But as I
• 1:33:57
  said that, I started to have like things flashed for my eyes. But
• 1:34:00
  it was just like Jersey numbers of sixty that's when I'm a little school that
• 1:34:04
  might I might have been forgetting somebody ginormous. Nothing notable that stands out to
• 1:34:10
  me at sixty eight either. Good. All right. So there you go
• 1:34:14
  two numbers that if you're an up and coming Viking, either an offensive lineman
• 1:34:17
  or a defensive lineman. I think those are about the only groups that can
• 1:34:21
  fully wear those numbers. Maybe maybe linebackers in the sixties. I don't know.
• 1:34:27
  If you're an up and coming Viking and you really want to own a
• 1:34:30
  number, I just get a couple of pro bowls and wear seventy two or
• 1:34:32
  sixty eight, and you'll be You'll be good as old. There. I
• 1:34:35
  almost there wasn't there one summer where ever, since Griffin came back and he
• 1:34:39
  was like fifty something, we all freaked out. Michael Pierce had come in
• 1:34:44
  as a free agent. He snagged ninety seven, but then it was the
• 1:34:47
  twenty twenty year Michael Pierce sat out. Oh yeah, and then twenty twenty
• 1:34:53
  one Griffin came back and Pierce technically still held ninety seven. But yeah,
• 1:34:58
  he just he just gave it up. Yeah, what was he? What
• 1:35:00
  was Griffin? It was a fifty something? Was it? Like it was
• 1:35:02
  something like that for like a practice, you know, a very show?
• 1:35:05
  It was. It was a game I remember seeing in the game. Yeah,
• 1:35:08
  I remember tweeting about it. That's why. So it was it was
• 1:35:11
  something he came back and it was like fifty. I want to say it
• 1:35:15
  was a fifty because I thought it looked kind of cool, but most of
• 1:35:17
  Twitter it was like, oh, I can't stand seeing this. I want
• 1:35:23
  to say it was like fifty four or something. See that might have been
• 1:35:28
  because Eric Kendricks probably would have been on the team at that point too.
• 1:35:31
  Yeah, it was when he came back. Remember when he went and played
• 1:35:34
  for the Little Cowboys a couple of times, right, he there's a season
• 1:35:40
  he started with the Cowboys and then bounced to the Lions. Maybe it only
• 1:35:44
  came back. Yeah, he only came back the once and I think it
• 1:35:47
  was that time and maybe that's why it stands out because it was actually in
• 1:35:51
  a game. I'll find it after the show, but it was definitely in
• 1:35:55
  the fifties, and yeah it felt weird. Yeah, yeah, doing this
• 1:36:00
  series, the numbers are such a kind of goofy thing because ultimately it doesn't
• 1:36:04
  matter. It's just what the guys do on the field. For fans,
• 1:36:09
  it's like what we see. We know nineteen is cool because of Thiel,
• 1:36:12
  and we know Dante Culpepper will always be number eleven for the Vikings. For
• 1:36:15
  me, so it is it is fun to think about, like, oh,
• 1:36:18
  who wore this number, Pete Burstich. We found out were number fifty
• 1:36:21
  for one year, Yeah, after playing for the Vikings, leaving then coming
• 1:36:27
  back. So yeah, it's interesting to look at these numbers. Oh fifty
• 1:36:30
  eight, I tweeted on August twenty second or August twenty seventh, twenty twenty
• 1:36:34
  one. I happen to like Griffin and number fifty eight. So in a
• 1:36:39
  preseason game he was fifty eight. Well, the schoolhop account, we'll go
• 1:36:44
  back, we'll find that tweet of yours, we'll retweet it. So what
• 1:36:47
  I hear by nominate Eversin Griffin as number fifty eight. Pretty cool in this
• 1:36:53
  section of the episode. There you go, all right, Evan, you
• 1:36:57
  got anything else before we wrap it up? No, I would add one
• 1:37:01
  more number, And I'm sure we'll talk about this when we go through the
• 1:37:04
  full list, but seventy seven Corey Stringer. Absolutely. I have a news
• 1:37:11
  article here that my parents clipped out of the Star Tribune. It's Randy Moss
• 1:37:15
  with his head like this. Pretty powerful moment for me as a young kid
• 1:37:19
  to see a player that you kind of idolize pass away from something as tragic
• 1:37:28
  like that. So I think be remiss if we didn't mention him at that
• 1:37:30
  number. Pretty pretty prominent memory for me and my young Viking fan hood.
• 1:37:38
  Yeah, yeah, shame on me for forgetting him. When I was a
• 1:37:42
  teenager, my first job was bagging groceries and Eden prairie at a grocery store
• 1:37:45
  called Driscolls. And he used to come in and yeah, and he he
• 1:37:50
  was just like McKinny, huge. But he was so cool because let's see,
• 1:37:55
  I was about fifteen. I could go up to him because you knew
• 1:37:58
  in the moment he saw him, he had the the dreads at the time
• 1:38:00
  that weren't crazy popular, he was huge and he always had the I don't
• 1:38:03
  know if you guys listened to rat back then. There was an album called
• 1:38:06
  Ghetto D from Master P and he always had this huge chain on. That
• 1:38:10
  was the album cover of Ghetto D. And so you could go up to
• 1:38:14
  him and just start talking to him like like you played football. You could
• 1:38:16
  be like asking about the team, and he talked right along with you,
• 1:38:19
  and so we're talking like nineteen ninety eight, nineteen ninety nine is when I
• 1:38:24
  got to meet him. Yeah, and he was a really cool guy.
• 1:38:27
  So hell yeah, you got to make sure he's included in the pantheon.
• 1:38:30
  Yeah, that's super cool. And he might be the most recent retired number.
• 1:38:33
  I might be wrong on that, but they, you know, fittingly
• 1:38:38
  retired him pretty soon after all that went down. But yeah, all right,
• 1:38:44
  justin once again, thank you so much for coming on. We will
• 1:38:47
  have you. We'd have you on every episode if you wanted to, but
• 1:38:50
  we love having you on. It's always fun. But I always like to
• 1:38:55
  give you a chance to talk about what you're doing, give you some plug
• 1:38:58
  time. So what can we what can we look out for you as far
• 1:39:01
  as Dustin Baker content. Sure, it is at Viking's Territory, the show
• 1:39:06
  that you guys talked about at nauseum here, which was awesome. And then
• 1:39:10
  our sister side is Purple PTSD. Recently, my good friend et Kart took
• 1:39:15
  over as the editor there and the thing has been going great for him.
• 1:39:17
  Vikes Now we record during the slow season about every other day, four or
• 1:39:21
  five episodes a week, and that's that's the major stuff. And then on
• 1:39:26
  Twitter it's Dus Baker and then things from that account will really start to heat
• 1:39:30
  up when we have meaningful stuff happening, which is about less than three weeks
• 1:39:33
  away. And why don't you, gentlemen, if you, if you think
• 1:39:36
  of it, schedule me for like August sixth or so. I think that
• 1:39:41
  would be an apropo time. I have one more vacation to take the summer,
• 1:39:44
  but that isn't until two days after that. Awesome. Yeah, we'll
• 1:39:46
  plan on it. We'll get all the details nailed down for that, and
• 1:39:51
  then I'm pretty sure cam Akers is on the way back to the team.
• 1:39:55
  By the way, that's that's more than just Charlie Walter's article that sounds like
• 1:39:59
  that one is so Yeah, Vikings. They'll get even deeper at running back.
• 1:40:01
  Yeah, I saw a Viking's territory something come out. I don't know
• 1:40:05
  if it was Twitter or just on the website, but you had sources right
• 1:40:09
  there. Yeah. I went and made sure that that wasn't just something that
• 1:40:12
  had accidentally proliferated the internet. No, that one is eminent, and it
• 1:40:15
  makes all the sense in the world for them to have one more guy there,
• 1:40:20
  especially because they just don't use Canae and Wongu on offense. Yeah.
• 1:40:24
  Interesting, Yeah, that'll be cool. I'm excited for that. Yeah,
• 1:40:28
  all right, Hey, welcome back. He made it through the interview.
• 1:40:31
  And I say that like it's a bad thing, but it's never a bad
• 1:40:35
  thing to have a conversation with Dustin Baker. You always enjoy it. I
• 1:40:40
  would talk to him kind of like you, like, there are some people
• 1:40:44
  that I would just sit down and just hang out all day and talk about
• 1:40:46
  the Vikings. And that's literally what this podcast started off with. Dustin's another
• 1:40:51
  guy. He knows a lot, but he doesn't come off as arrogant,
• 1:40:56
  and it's fun to talk with him about the Vikings. So I hope you
• 1:40:59
  guys enjoyed that. As much as we did. That's kind of turned into
• 1:41:01
  and I'm very happy about it, like a monthly segment for him to come
• 1:41:04
  on. I think I tell him we'd have him on every episode, but
• 1:41:10
  anytime he's he wants to come on, he's welcome to. And Dustin,
• 1:41:14
  I love this monthly thing that we've got going on. So yeah, yeah,
• 1:41:16
  it's definitely been fun. It was fun to kind of pick his brain
• 1:41:20
  on some things. We've got the Olympics coming up, so we kind of
• 1:41:23
  asked him like, well, if football were a thing, and flag football
• 1:41:26
  could become a thing in the near future, you know who would the Viking
• 1:41:30
  Olympians be. I got to ask him an interesting question about Aaron Jones versus
• 1:41:36
  Van Ginkel, two new Vikings acquisitions in the offseason, and which one is
• 1:41:43
  more likely to be a bust kind of coming up. So and on that
• 1:41:46
  note too, I think I was a little hard on Aaron Jones. I
• 1:41:51
  want him to be a two thousand yard rusher. I want him to be
• 1:41:56
  healthy all year and I'm be the first one to jump up for joy in
• 1:42:00
  his first touchdown with the Vikings and every all twenty of them that I hope
• 1:42:03
  he gets but I just realistically, I don't see that happening. But I'm
• 1:42:08
  an Aaron Jones fan. I'm a Viking, span he's a Vikings. It'll
• 1:42:12
  be one of the first to buy a purple sombrero. Well, I saw
• 1:42:15
  umbrella sombreros in Mexico. I didn't see any purple ones though, so I
• 1:42:19
  didn't look too hard. I probably should have looked hard enough. And it
• 1:42:24
  was fun to kind of piggyback off of our series that we've been doing to
• 1:42:28
  and just kind of ask Dustin who stands out to him in that sixty to
• 1:42:33
  seventy nine range as well, so that it was a good conversation as it
• 1:42:38
  always is. And yeah, we're always grateful and always excited to hang out
• 1:42:43
  with him for just a little bit and yeah, yeah, and then it's
• 1:42:46
  become a monthly thing. Yeah. I had totally forgotten that Everson Griffin had
• 1:42:53
  more number fifty eight for the Vikings. Yeah, that was fun for him
• 1:42:57
  to bring that up. And I forgot about that too, But I told
• 1:42:59
  him i'd read tweet it, but I didn't at the time. So we'll
• 1:43:01
  do that. We'll do that soon. All right, Well, what are
• 1:43:05
  your thoughts on the Flying Johnny from No Coast Brewing. So this it's got
• 1:43:14
  the happiness of an ipa in a good way. So if you don't like
• 1:43:17
  I Pas, maybe this wouldn't be your favorite. But for me, I
• 1:43:19
  love the happiness. It's also not a blasting, in your face happiness flavor.
• 1:43:26
  It's like the perfect amount. It's like just right, and it's got
• 1:43:30
  a full flavor. Reminds me of an amber a little bit. Got that
• 1:43:34
  color for sure, so in a really good way. If you ever had
• 1:43:39
  the Arms Race from Big Grove, this one kind of reminds me a little
• 1:43:43
  bit of that. They're different beers, but they could be like cousin beers,
• 1:43:46
  you know, they're they're close enough that they remind me of each other.
• 1:43:50
  Well, and I likened it to a fat tire too. Yeah,
• 1:43:53
  yeah, true, with a full body flavor, but nothing about it is
• 1:43:57
  too in your face, So like, you don't have to kneed extreme flavors
• 1:44:00
  either way to like this beer. It's it's really good. I like it
• 1:44:03
  a lot. I think I like it a little more than you do.
• 1:44:06
  Maybe you got to catch up here, well I didn't. We both poured
• 1:44:10
  a couple here, so but yeah, the can's really fun. It kind
• 1:44:14
  of gives me the feel that maybe it's a limited run just for the Fourth
• 1:44:17
  of July, which would make me a little sad because I want to I
• 1:44:20
  want to have this beer more often, like this would enter my repertoire of
• 1:44:25
  regular beers. Can's really cool, but it very much screams Fourth of July,
• 1:44:30
  which is awesome. I just hope it's not a limited run. I
• 1:44:33
  hope not to. It was a good beer and everything that you said about
• 1:44:39
  it, I would second that. And yeah, I'm going to go back
• 1:44:42
  to Our Devil's Glenn hy Vee and I'm gonna look for this on the shelf
• 1:44:45
  and I might buy another one. Yep, how far is Oscaraloosa? That's
• 1:44:50
  where No Coast is? It's south of A eighty and I think it's kind
• 1:44:56
  of like between here and Des Moines. But south the A eighty is it?
• 1:45:00
  Is it on our list? It's a little too far off. It
• 1:45:03
  is not on our list currently, but hey, No Coast. We're headed
• 1:45:08
  down I eighty towards des Moines from the Quad Cities to des Moines next week.
• 1:45:13
  So if you want us to make a little pit stop out to Oscar,
• 1:45:16
  LUSA, you just let us know we'd be happy to go. Well,
• 1:45:19
  we will go out of our way to go to Oscar, Lisa.
• 1:45:24
  This beer solidifies it. I'll I for sure second that we've had the make
• 1:45:29
  Waves, we've had the van Go. I think the Vango is the first
• 1:45:31
  No Coast beer. I think you're right. Yeah, we've had they were
• 1:45:34
  They were the ones that made those three nitro beers that we had. Yeah,
• 1:45:39
  yeah, so we've actually had the Coast. I forgot about those nitro
• 1:45:44
  beers. Yeah, so they might be the most featured beer on the pod.
• 1:45:47
  They might be. We'll we'll double check and we'll go back and count.
• 1:45:49
  Yeah. But this one, this one's great again. This one's the
• 1:45:54
  Flying Johnny from from No Coast. Try it out if you haven't, try
• 1:45:59
  to find it if you can't in we're a bit of ways from No Coast
• 1:46:01
  and we still could find it locally. So I'm really glad I will have
• 1:46:04
  this again happily. Thank you for bringing up Yeah, you bet all right,
• 1:46:09
  man. Well, good episode, Yeah, best episode yet. School
• 1:46:13
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• 1:46:38
  to say thank you again so much for listening to the school Hop, and
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