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3 Sex Abuse Cases in 2 Countries: Influencer Andrew Tate Busted · Crime Stories with Nancy Grace

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Speaker 1: Crime Stories with Nancy Grace, a notorious misogynist, woman hater,
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Speaker 1: alleged sex trafficker and online influencer with a huge social
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Speaker 1: media following. Don't ask me why people follow this guy.
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Speaker 1: Andrew Tate and his creepy brother detained in Romania and
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Speaker 1: handed a UK arrest warrant. Looks like the Brits did
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Speaker 1: what the US was afraid to do. I mean, is
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Speaker 1: he Grace? This is Crime Stories. Thank you for being
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Speaker 1: with us here at Crime Stories and on serious xem
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Speaker 1: one eleven.
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Speaker 2: That's right.
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Speaker 1: The online influencer Andrew Tate, with literally millions of followers
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Speaker 1: Go figure, was detained and handed an arrest warrant issued
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Speaker 1: by the British government. Tate thirty seven and creepy brother
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Speaker 1: Tristan Tate detained. They were detained on claims of sex aggression.
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Speaker 1: That's what they call it in the UK, in a
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Speaker 1: case dating all the way back to two thousand and fifteen.
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Speaker 1: Now a Romanian court where the two were hiding out
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Speaker 1: has to make a quote pivotal decision whether they're going
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Speaker 1: to execute the warrants issued by the UK Westminster Magistrates Court.
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Speaker 1: They darn well better if they want to keep relations
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Speaker 1: up with the UK. Four women reported Tate. Four women,
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Speaker 1: not one, not two, not three, but four report Tate
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Speaker 1: to authorities for sex violence and physical abuse. For some reason,
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Speaker 1: the crown decided not to prosecute him. These victims had
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Speaker 1: to turn to crowd funding to cover their legal costs.
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Speaker 1: The four female victims handed over their evidence about the
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Speaker 1: horrific acts of violence. They say they endured and just waited,
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Speaker 1: but time passes and they were told the UK authorities
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Speaker 1: would not prosecute them. Now, don't forget Titus charged in
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Speaker 1: a separate case with rape, human trafficking and forming a
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Speaker 1: criminal gang to sexually exploit women. Why does this guy
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Speaker 1: have millions of men followers?
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Speaker 2: Freaks?
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Speaker 1: How did the whole thing begin? Possibly the most misogynistic
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Speaker 1: person I have ever encountered discussing tactics on how to
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Speaker 1: lure sex trafficking victims. These texts, messages and more have
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Speaker 1: now been leaked and it's all spewing from the the
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Speaker 1: empire built by Andrew Tate, a sex trafficker according to
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Speaker 1: Elie Law Enforcement.
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Speaker 2: First of all, take a listen to this.
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Speaker 3: Most people know Andrew Tate for his online content, which
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Speaker 3: has been called misogynistic but what most people don't know
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Speaker 3: is that he also runs this secret of all male society,
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Speaker 3: the warrem which he says is a kind of self
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Speaker 3: help society that helps you become better man. It costs
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Speaker 3: six pounds a year to join. What we uncovered is
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Speaker 3: that actually within the Warreum, they're actually teaching men methods
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Speaker 3: for grooming women into online sex work. And we've identified
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Speaker 3: from the leaked messages you referred to at least forty
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Speaker 3: five potential victims of this grooming method.
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Speaker 4: Breaking news, disgraced influencer Andrew Tate has been indicted and
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Speaker 4: will face charges of rape, human trafficking, and forming a
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Speaker 4: criminal gang to sexually exploit women. According to officials, three
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Speaker 4: others will also be charged in connection to human trafficking,
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Speaker 4: including Andrew's brother, Tristan Hopes. Person for the Tate brothers,
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Speaker 4: confirm their indictment to NBC News. Both brothers deny all allegations.
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Speaker 2: The two were.
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Speaker 4: Amended into custody back in December before being released under
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Speaker 4: house arrest in March.
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Speaker 1: I can't stop someone from being misogynistic, that's within them.
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Speaker 1: But I tell you this much, we can stop sex trafficking.
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Speaker 1: And what's so amazing is he's not trafficking women in secret.
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Speaker 2: They're not in the.
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Speaker 1: Back of massage parlors and nail salons with their papers
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Speaker 1: stolen from them, unless they have sex with strangers.
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Speaker 2: And then they're pimp making the money.
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Speaker 1: This is not some thirteen or fourteen year old girl
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Speaker 1: that has been stolen and she's being hidden in some
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Speaker 1: secret apartment somewhere in La far far away from home,
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Speaker 1: being beaten and drug This is right in our face.
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Speaker 1: This is happening right online.
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Speaker 2: I really don't even know where to start taking Listen.
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Speaker 2: Our friends at.
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Speaker 5: BBC prosecutors have filed formal charges against the controversial influencer
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Speaker 5: Andrew Tate, his brother Tristan, and two associates. The charges
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Speaker 5: include rape, human trafficking, and forming an organized crime group,
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Speaker 5: as well as illegally accessing a computer system and violence
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Speaker 5: against one of the alleged victims. The indictment taught says
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Speaker 5: that at the beginning of twenty twenty one, the four
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Speaker 5: defendants formed an organized criminal group to commit human trafficking
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Speaker 5: in the United States and Britain.
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Speaker 6: We know there are seven alleged victims who are apparently
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Speaker 6: allegedly recruited by false promises of love and marriage by
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Speaker 6: the two Taate brothers.
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Speaker 1: Love and marriage, my rear end, that is not what
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Speaker 1: this is.
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Speaker 2: This is not about love and marriage.
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Speaker 1: You were hearing from our friends at BBC as well
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Speaker 1: as NBC.
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Speaker 2: This is not about love and marriage at all.
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Speaker 1: Guys, before I go to senior investigative reporter for dealmail
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Speaker 1: dot Com, Caitlin Becker, joining us are waning to hear
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Speaker 1: arakat fifteen from the Dangerous Rise of Andrew ta BBC.
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Speaker 2: Listen.
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Speaker 7: In the leaked messages that we got access to, were
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Speaker 7: able to see that up to forty five women were
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Speaker 7: recruited into working on webcam, potentially groomed using this method
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Speaker 7: without their knowledge. We saw specific examples of men grooming
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Speaker 7: specific women, and in the documentary we spoke to two
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Speaker 7: of those women, one in Buenos Ayre's Argentina and one
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Speaker 7: on the West coast of the US, who both alleged
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Speaker 7: that they personally were groomed by senior members of Andrew
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Speaker 7: Tates warrem.
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Speaker 1: That's not all I'll take a loss, Ora cut Tien,
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Speaker 1: Lucia Williamson BBC.
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Speaker 6: The prosecution also says that women were forced by the
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Speaker 6: defendants to make pornographic content online and alleges that some
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Speaker 6: women did not control the money they made and were
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Speaker 6: fined for crying on camera or for not working hard enough.
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Speaker 6: As spokeswoman for the Tate Brothers said that they vehemently
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Speaker 6: denied the serious lations against them.
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Speaker 1: Joining me an all star panel to make sense of
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Speaker 1: what we know right now. Straight out to senior investigative
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Speaker 1: reporter for the Dailymail dot Com, Caitlin Becker, Caitlyn, thank
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Speaker 1: you for being with us. Forty five known alleged victims.
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Speaker 1: There are actually victims in multiple countries. That's not unusual.
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Speaker 1: Do you remember the initial search for Natalie Holloway. We
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Speaker 1: were us, not only US, but many other journalists in
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Speaker 1: law enforcement were looking at the islands nearest to Aruba,
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Speaker 1: including the Netherland Antilles, thinking she had been removed from
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Speaker 1: the island for sex trafficking. That is a part of
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Speaker 1: sex trafficking. You remove the victim from their home, from
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Speaker 1: their money, from their cell phone, from their driver's license,
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Speaker 1: their ID, and they're stuck with you and nowhere to go,
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Speaker 1: and they're being beaten and drugged and they're taken away.
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Speaker 2: From their home.
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Speaker 1: That this conspiracy to sex traffic is in many countries.
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Speaker 1: It's hard for some people to believe, but this is
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Speaker 1: the way sex trafficking works.
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Speaker 2: Who is Andrew Tate, Caitlin Well, Nancy.
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Speaker 8: It's the way sex trafficking work. But it's also the
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Speaker 8: way the Internet works. And Andrew Tate's claim to fame
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Speaker 8: is on the Internet. I mean he had a short
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Speaker 8: lived stint on British Big Brother, but really he became
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Speaker 8: known in online circles for being kind of the king
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Speaker 8: of misogyny and teaching men how to be men, which
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Speaker 8: involved subjugating and harassing women. He had very popular online courses.
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Speaker 8: He had one that called something Hustlers, and that was
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Speaker 8: more of his public one, and then this war Room
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Speaker 8: that you've been hearing about was his private one. But
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Speaker 8: he also had very popular social media account where he
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Speaker 8: propagated this type of bullying and misogyny and as you heard,
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Speaker 8: essentially allegedly grooming, and he garnered thousands and thousands and
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Speaker 8: thousands of followers. And for war Room particularly, you had
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Speaker 8: to pay the equivalent of what is about eight thousand
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Speaker 8: dollars to join, So he's then profiting off of this
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Speaker 8: and thowing like minded men to listen to the types
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Speaker 8: of sort of vile information that he's viewing. So the
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Speaker 8: conspiracy goes far and wide. Do not only have Andrew
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Speaker 8: and Tristan Kate, the brothers who were at ahead of this,
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Speaker 8: that's sort of ahead of the stake, but you also
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Speaker 8: have all of those war room members. You can imagine
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Speaker 8: how far this can go. I mean, we have alleged victims.
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Speaker 8: There are seven in the indictment, and they are from
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Speaker 8: all over the world, several in Europe, at least one
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Speaker 8: in the United States. All of their identities are being protected.
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Speaker 8: We are also hearing potentially forty five others from these
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Speaker 8: lead telegram messages that the BBC obtained. But Nancy, those
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Speaker 8: messages are only for one year, so you have to
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Speaker 8: imagine in one year, if there's forty five potential victims.
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Speaker 8: I can't even fathom how many that could.
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Speaker 1: Be crime stories with Nancy Grace. Believe it or not,
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Speaker 1: this perv Andrew Tate has nearly nine million followers on
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Speaker 1: the social media platform x also known as Twitter. He
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Speaker 1: repeatedly claims prosecutors have no evidence against him and that
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Speaker 1: there is a conspiracy to quote silence him. Okay, when
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Speaker 1: you start talking about conspiracies, you'll lose me. Remember everybody
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Speaker 1: said the LAPD had a conspiracy against OJ Simpsom to
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Speaker 1: frame him for double murder. Bs like you think one
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Speaker 1: of those cops would take a million dollars for a
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Speaker 1: tell all book about the so called conspiracy to frame
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Speaker 1: OJ Simpson. Yeah, it's my understanding and my experience. It's
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Speaker 1: too difficult for people to keep the pyhole shut in
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Speaker 1: a conspiracy. Even social media is shunning him. He's been
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Speaker 1: banned from multiple social media platforms for misogynistic woman hating
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Speaker 1: views and hate speech. What more do we know about
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Speaker 1: Andrew Tate and his freaky brother I know this. They're
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Speaker 1: rolling in money. Remainian authorities sees fifteen luxury cars, fourteen
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Speaker 1: designer watches, and cash in several currencies. That's weird, worth around.
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Speaker 2: Four million dollars.
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Speaker 1: These two women haters and alleged sex traffickers are making
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Speaker 1: a mint online.
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Speaker 2: Look this isn't just a single instance.
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Speaker 1: Over three hundred million dollars.
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Speaker 2: US dollars was seized. That is the tip of the iceberg.
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Speaker 1: With how many people this guy is controlling and how
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Speaker 1: many women are being subjected to sex trafficking, forced pornography,
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Speaker 1: being raped, being beaten. In his chats screenshots purported messages
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Speaker 1: from the quote war Room, Tate describes women as quote
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Speaker 1: targets and assets, and explains how to isolate and manipulate women.
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Speaker 1: In one message, this woman hater describes how he isolated
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Speaker 1: one woman until she quote lost her support networks at home,
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Speaker 1: and he kept her in his compound quote and this
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Speaker 1: tastes like a dirt sandwich to me. The real goal
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Speaker 1: is for her to agree to never go anywhere without me,
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Speaker 1: even her hometown. I need her working. This is from
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Speaker 1: his screenshots. He appears to seek help from his associates
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Speaker 1: to force one woman to post sexually explicit content on
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Speaker 1: only fans. He tells his followers he'll be making the
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Speaker 1: play tonight. Since she moved to his compound, She's been fed,
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Speaker 1: but nothing else. These are his words. She's broke, she
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Speaker 1: can't go home, she can't leave the house. Man, I
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Speaker 1: sound almost evil, guys, this is such a huge operation.
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Speaker 1: Take a listen to our cut too, Lucy Williamson.
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Speaker 6: The charge of human trafficking is an umbrella charge, and
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Speaker 6: within that there are several counts against each of the
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Speaker 6: four defendants. We're also getting some information from the organized
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Speaker 6: crime unit about the assets that have been seized, properties, cars,
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Speaker 6: luxury watches, but also more than three hundred million US
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Speaker 6: dollars in crypto currency. And we're told that there are
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Speaker 6: separate charges that are still under investigation that may be
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Speaker 6: the subjects of a separate indictment in the future.
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Speaker 1: Think about it. How many times have I told a
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Speaker 1: jury don't turn away. Think about what's happening around you.
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Speaker 1: Think about these facts, young women being forced into sex.
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Speaker 2: Rate Think about it.
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Speaker 1: Do you have a daughter, a mother, a sister. Think
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Speaker 1: about her being forced into sex, isolated from her family
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Speaker 1: to the ten of this guy making at least three
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Speaker 1: hundred million dollars.
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Speaker 9: Nancy?
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Speaker 2: May I hear someone jumping at Who is it?
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Speaker 9: Nancy? This is Don Shiller.
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Speaker 1: Hi, guys, this is Don Schiller and joining us training
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Speaker 1: director for the La County Project with Coalition to Abolish
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Speaker 1: Slavery and Trafficking. She's the best selling author of The
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Speaker 1: Road through Wonderland, Surviving John Holmes down.
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Speaker 2: Please jump in, go ahead, thank you, thank you.
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Speaker 9: I also call myself a lived experience expert in and
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Speaker 9: that's what we do when we go out and teach
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Speaker 9: and train around human trafficking. So when I hear the
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Speaker 9: word grooming a lot, What this really applies to is
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Speaker 9: the recruitment. Grooming is recruitment under the umbrella of what
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Speaker 9: is human trafficking. I'm luring somebody in on their vulnerabilities
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Speaker 9: based off of mes for love and attention whatever that is,
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Speaker 9: because they didn't have it at home. It is really
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Speaker 9: a classic form of recruitment into where the victim is
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Speaker 9: then now kept in by force. Fraud and coercion and
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Speaker 9: coersion is all types of things. The fraud is this
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Speaker 9: promise of love that never turns into Love's always like
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Speaker 9: having to force you into doing something.
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Speaker 1: Guys, I'm looking online at Andrew Take's leaked text. Wait
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Speaker 1: a minute, this is about maximum difficulty you experience in
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Speaker 1: the business.
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Speaker 2: If we all.
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Speaker 1: Agree on that, I'll give you a play by play
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Speaker 1: of what I try.
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Speaker 2: I do this for every girl I get to work.
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Speaker 1: If you, guys see the value, you guys can use
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Speaker 1: your bottom bit to do whatever g is doing. You
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Speaker 1: are never going back to your hometown, even to visit
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Speaker 1: without me. You understand that is part of his technique.
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Speaker 1: These are his words, not mine.
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Speaker 2: It goes on and on and on.
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Speaker 1: One defit excused of raping one woman twice, using intimidation,
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Speaker 1: constant surveillance and claims in the victims were in debt.
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Speaker 2: Take a listen at our Cut eight from BBC.
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Speaker 6: Prosecutors outline the testimony and the evidence against Andrew Tate.
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Speaker 6: It includes transcriptions of text and audio messages which appear
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Speaker 6: to show how the alleged trafficking operation was managed and
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Speaker 6: the apparent coercion, control and abuse of women mister Tait
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Speaker 6: and his co defendants. In one transcribed exchange, Andrew Tate
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Speaker 6: appears to coerce and alleged victim into group sex using
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Speaker 6: abusive language. His brother Tristan is also quoted in prosecution
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Speaker 6: transcripts allegedly talking about slaving women for ten to twelve
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Speaker 6: hours a day.
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Speaker 1: Slaving women from ten to twelve hours a day okay
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Speaker 1: to doctor Joni Johnston, forensic psychologist and private investigator, author
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Speaker 1: of Serial Killers. One hundred and one question True crime
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Speaker 1: fans ask doctor Johnny, thank you for being with us.
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Speaker 2: Explain what's happening here?
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Speaker 10: Well, you know, I think this scale or the potential
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Speaker 10: scale of what is going on is mind boggling, But
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Speaker 10: the actual techniques that we're hearing about, I mean how
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Speaker 10: many times do we heard these Nancy, you know, just
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Speaker 10: isolating people from their loved lines, from people they.
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Speaker 11: Care about, the abuse, the coercion.
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Speaker 10: I mean, it's we've heard this in a million different ways.
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Speaker 10: It's the way to isolate and control your victims, and
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Speaker 10: it's you know, it's something we've heard over and over again.
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Speaker 1: Guys, you think this hasn't happened before, It's happened so
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Speaker 1: many times before, sex cults. And it's always women and
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Speaker 1: children who are subjugated, who are raped, who are sodomized,
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Speaker 1: who are forced into pimping out for other guys. Take
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Speaker 1: ust to our cut nineteen. We're talking about Nexium.
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Speaker 2: Listen.
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Speaker 12: Alison Mack is due in court facing sex trafficking charges
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Speaker 12: after being accused of involvement in helping to recruit women
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Speaker 12: as alleged sex slaves for a secret sorority within an
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Speaker 12: organization called Nexium, based out of Albany, New York. Mac
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Speaker 12: gave a testimonial for the group.
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Speaker 2: When I first came, I had on the surface something
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Speaker 2: that seems to be like the perfect life for a
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Speaker 2: pretty good life.
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Speaker 12: Keith Rinieri, the leader of Nexium, is facing charges including
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Speaker 12: sex trafficking and forced labor conspiracy related to that secret sorority.
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Speaker 1: Cheryl McCollum joining me me founder and director of the
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Speaker 1: Cold Case Research Institute. You can find for at coldcasecrimes
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Speaker 1: dot org. Cheryl, thank you for being with us. Nexium
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Speaker 1: is a US based sex cult where people were actually
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Speaker 1: allowed being branded and beaten right here under our nose,
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Speaker 1: including celebrities. The only thing different here with Andrew Tate
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Speaker 1: is he's rubbing our face in it. It's right here
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Speaker 1: on the internet. He's going out to the most expensive
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Speaker 1: restaurant he can and videoing his celebration after getting to
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Speaker 1: walk free on this.
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Speaker 13: Nancy, I think some terminology here is going to be important.
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Speaker 1: Terminology, Lyria end. How is terminology going to put this
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Speaker 1: guy behind bars? Terminology? What does that matter to me?
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Speaker 13: Because they need to understand who he is. They keep
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Speaker 13: using words.
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Speaker 9: Like na who's they today?
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Speaker 13: On the show, people have said grooming If that implies
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Speaker 13: over time? Listen to me very carefully. There are three
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Speaker 13: types of pimps. There's the ceo pimp, there's a robo pimp,
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Speaker 13: and there's the gorilla pimp. The CEO pimp is all
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Speaker 13: about money. He only cares about money. She's an object.
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Speaker 13: He's going to make money.
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Speaker 11: He owns her.
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Speaker 13: The Romeo pimp may tell her, hey, you're my wife,
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Speaker 13: you're my woman, put his name on her neck, tattoo
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Speaker 13: her as property, but she believes they're together. Then you've
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Speaker 13: got the gorilla pimp. He's going to bust you in
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Speaker 13: your face, shoot you up with heroin, and you are
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Speaker 13: a six slave in fifteen minutes. And here's the thing.
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Speaker 13: The gentleman that is doing all of this. He can
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Speaker 13: go from a Ceo pimp to a gorilla pimp, or
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Speaker 13: a Romeo pimp to a gorilla pimp. And that's what
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Speaker 13: you're seeing here. He promised them love and marriage, and
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Speaker 13: the next thing they know, they're beaten, laying on the
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Speaker 13: cement floor, working eight hours a day with no brain.
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Speaker 1: And when you say working eight hours a day, what
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Speaker 1: you mean is in during rape after rape after rape
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Speaker 1: after rape after rape, and the pimp gets the money.
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Speaker 1: Does the arrest of Andrew Tate and his creepy brother
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Speaker 1: spell the end of the so called manosphere? You know,
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Speaker 1: like hemisphere, but manosphere the controversial, that's one way to
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Speaker 1: put it. Influencer Andrew Tate reportedly will be extradited to
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Speaker 1: the UK. This after a grainy footage from police shows
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Speaker 1: a man dubbed the quote King of Toxic Masculinity being
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Speaker 1: arrested in the dead of the night along with his
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Speaker 1: creepy brother and hauled into a Bucharist court in handcuffs.
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Speaker 1: Within hours, a judge approves the extradition of Andrew and
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Speaker 1: Tristan Tate to the UK, where they now face charges
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Speaker 1: of sex aggression in a case that dates back back
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Speaker 1: to two thousand and fifteen, But the judge says the
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Speaker 1: Tate brothers won't actually be sent to the UK until
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Speaker 1: they face trial in Romania on separate charges of human trafficking,
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Speaker 1: rape and forming a criminal group to exploit women. Tate,
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Speaker 1: now thirty seven, describes himself as a misogynist. He's a
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Speaker 1: British American social media influencer, a former professional kickboxer, and
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Speaker 1: has around nine million followers on x formerly Twitter. Of course,
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Speaker 1: many of them are just schoolboys.
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Speaker 9: Hello.
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Speaker 1: Multiple women in multiple countries accuse him of rape, sex
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Speaker 1: assault and trafficking, and I'm bragging about the crimes on
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Speaker 1: social media. Where's the US and all of this? You
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Speaker 1: want to tell me he has not exploited women from
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Speaker 1: the US. Well, let's go back to the beginning. To you,
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Speaker 1: Taitlin Becker, Senior investigator reporter dalimil dot com, could you
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Speaker 1: please explain Obviously I'm not doing a good job, and
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Speaker 1: I accept that you can do much better than me
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Speaker 1: explaining what kind of hate and vitriol Andrew tait spews.
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Speaker 1: What does he say?
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Speaker 8: Well, first and foremost, Nancy, just to sort of put
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Speaker 8: the pimp question to bed, he sorry for the really
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Speaker 8: poorly timed pun.
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Speaker 2: There too.
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Speaker 8: He himself at a course called PhD in the war room.
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Speaker 8: This is where the conversations that you were reading came from.
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Speaker 8: And PhD stands for pimpin hoose degree. So he was
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Speaker 8: doing this very much in plain sight.
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Speaker 2: You know what, you are so polite.
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Speaker 1: I am not PhD pimpin hoose degree. That's what he
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Speaker 1: calls women, ladies, whores, pamping whore's degree.
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Speaker 2: Now, if he were just those are just words.
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Speaker 1: I can't proscie some money for words, un less of
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Speaker 1: terroristic threats. But these aren't just words.
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Speaker 2: Where do you.
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Speaker 1: Think he's getting three hundred million dollars plus more women
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Speaker 1: are being raped and subjugated and trafficked because of Andrew
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Speaker 1: take's cult like members that he creates.
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Speaker 2: Go ahead, please, Taitlin Becker.
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Speaker 8: Well, on top of that, Nancy with the money, he
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Speaker 8: essentially ran a pyramid scheme with his Hustlers University that
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Speaker 8: was his more public platform. It was fifty bucks a month,
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Speaker 8: and they he essentially gave people advice on how to
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Speaker 8: be a better man, and how to get wealthy, and
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Speaker 8: how to control women. And then he would have those
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Speaker 8: members go and recruit other members. So he's running this
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Speaker 8: sort of pyramid scheme on one side that I think
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Speaker 8: at one point had something like over one hundred thousand subscribers,
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Speaker 8: in addition to this other war room, which was certainly
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Speaker 8: more nefarious, and we know from those leaked text messages
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Speaker 8: that they spoke about women in just the most degrading terms,
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Speaker 8: and they spoke about actions with women, about how they
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Speaker 8: wanted to basically enslave them, how they wanted them to
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Speaker 8: not have any control, like you said, very cult like,
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Speaker 8: very much cult like, not have any control over their finances,
25:28
Speaker 8: not be able to control what they did, what they wore,
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Speaker 8: what they eat, who they saw, and also separate them
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Speaker 8: from their families. So those are sort of the actionable
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Speaker 8: things that he's accused of doing. But what it comes
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Speaker 8: down to is he had a lot of these women
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Speaker 8: allegedly performing online on something like OnlyFans, which is another
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Speaker 8: subscription based service, and different kinds of pornography sites which
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Speaker 8: are other subscription based services. So he would allegedly get
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Speaker 8: the money in from that while forcing these women for
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Speaker 8: ten twelve hours hours a day to perform these sex
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Speaker 8: acts against their will. And these can be done anywhere
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Speaker 8: because everything is online.
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Speaker 1: Cheryl McCollum, I need you right now to help me
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Speaker 1: explain that I'm going to go to our other all
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Speaker 1: star guests. First of all, a renowned international attorney is
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Speaker 1: joining us, Greg Algrin and Lee Reber, incredible forensic detective. Cheryl,
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Speaker 1: I'm not making it clear. I don't think I need
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Speaker 1: you to help me. I cannot expect everyone in this
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Speaker 1: room or everyone listening right now to understand the outrage
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Speaker 1: that I'm feeling. I think you have to go, and
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Speaker 1: you have to either be a sex assault victim yourself,
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Speaker 1: which guess what, you'd be really surprised about the people
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Speaker 1: you know that are sex assault victims that have never
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Speaker 1: mentioned it.
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Speaker 2: You'd be very surprised.
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Speaker 1: Unless you are a sex assault victim, or I've worked
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Speaker 1: with sex assault victims, or you have gone and you
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Speaker 1: have seen for yourself the lives of these women in
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Speaker 1: the back of the nail salon, in the back of
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Speaker 1: the massage parlors, in the apartments the houses where they
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Speaker 1: are beaten and drugged and raped by multiple men a day,
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Speaker 1: and their lives are torn apart and they are never
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Speaker 1: the same. The beatings, the humiliations, these women, these girls
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Speaker 1: just go numb. And while I often say, yeah, you
27:39
Speaker 1: can go on, you can go forward in their life,
27:41
Speaker 1: yeah you can, but they are forever wounded. Their psyche
27:48
Speaker 1: is forever messed up. Help me, Cheryl, I can't describe
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Speaker 1: the stench, the smell, the anguish, the numbness that these women.
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Speaker 2: Are living through.
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Speaker 1: Right now, while we're talking about which word to use,
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Speaker 1: they're being ready to sodomize and mean right now.
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Speaker 13: Cheryl Antey, I think you're doing a beautiful job, but
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Speaker 13: I know for us on the street level and law enforcement.
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Speaker 10: It is so difficult.
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Speaker 13: When you find a location and you kick that door
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Speaker 13: in and you see somebody that's about twelve years old
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Speaker 13: and they're scared to death to come to you. They're
28:24
Speaker 13: scared to death to talk. They will not give the
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Speaker 13: person's name up, they will not tell what's been happening.
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Speaker 13: They don't want to be reunited with their families. Everything
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Speaker 13: in their life is upside down. And when you're talking
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Speaker 13: about trying to help somebody and you know, bring them
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Speaker 13: back home and get them to a place where they
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Speaker 13: can maybe even go back to school, it's almost impossible.
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Speaker 1: Yes, Cheryl hold On, I want to talk about grown women. Okay,
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Speaker 1: and yes, everything you just said was right, But these women,
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Speaker 1: it's like the ladies that I work with at the
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Speaker 1: Batter Women's Center. They're so beaten and beaten down and
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Speaker 1: drugged and it's horrible.
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Speaker 2: I mean, think about it.
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Speaker 13: It's not much different for us. Since she's twenty one
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Speaker 13: or thirty five, everything has been flipped for her. The
29:16
Speaker 13: paranoia is real. The drugs they were giving them is real,
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Speaker 13: The beatings are real. So you are so afraid to
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Speaker 13: go against that person. It doesn't matter what somebody in
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Speaker 13: law enforcement says, what somebody in your family says.
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Speaker 11: You believe this person that's.
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Speaker 13: Been beaten you, there's been drugging you, that's been sexually
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Speaker 13: assaulting you, is still in control of you. Even if
29:37
Speaker 13: they've been taken to jam.
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Speaker 9: This is Don Schiller again. I don't think I am
29:41
Speaker 9: a survivor of all of that. That is exactly what
29:44
Speaker 9: I went through. I went through that with John Holmes.
29:46
Speaker 9: I went through that with almost six years of being hidden,
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Speaker 9: being beaten, being addicted to drugs, being forced into prostitution,
29:54
Speaker 9: being forced into crime. I did all of that. I
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Speaker 9: know that trauma is a life sentence. Feel you, and
30:00
Speaker 9: I hear you on that on a big level, on
30:03
Speaker 9: a big level, and I do care about these women,
30:05
Speaker 9: and I understand what they're going through. What he's doing,
30:09
Speaker 9: I agree with you one hundred percent is absolutely egregious.
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Speaker 9: That he's just throwing it in people's faces is even
30:14
Speaker 9: more insulting to survivors, and the victims who are still
30:17
Speaker 9: out there are scared to death to speak up. You
30:19
Speaker 9: don't know you're a victim when you are coming out
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Speaker 9: of that. You've been brainwashed into believe in that you
30:25
Speaker 9: did it to yourself if you consented to all of that.
30:28
Speaker 9: That's part of the tactic that the youth.
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Speaker 1: Crime stories with Nancy Grace Tate actually rose to fame
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Speaker 1: when he was kicked off the British version of our
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Speaker 1: TV show Big Brother back in twenty sixteen. Now, this
30:51
Speaker 1: was after the release of a video that appeared to
30:53
Speaker 1: show him attacking a woman. He climbs, it was edited
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Speaker 1: and then it's a quote lie to make me look bad.
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Speaker 1: Yeah right, I'm gonna believe you and my lion eyes
31:04
Speaker 1: chew on that Tate. He's been banned from other social
31:08
Speaker 1: media platforms like insta, TikTok, Facebook, YouTube. For some reason,
31:13
Speaker 1: he's still on Twitter slash X.
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Speaker 2: Now.
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Speaker 1: Briefly, Twitter aka X did band Tate because he wrote
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Speaker 1: women should bear quote some responsibility quote for being sex assaulted. Okay, yeah,
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Speaker 1: but then he was reinstated. Why why Musk? Why elon Musk?
31:37
Speaker 1: Was he reinstated? Tate has videos with the hashtag Andrew
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Speaker 1: Tate that have been watched literally billions, that's billion, with
31:49
Speaker 1: b as a brother on the TikTok platform, making him
31:54
Speaker 1: one of the most viewed figures spewing his hatred. Mak
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Speaker 1: Augrin is joining us as well as Lee Reeber, greg
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Speaker 1: high profile international lawyer with the US dash Emacs law group.
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Speaker 1: Listen to this more of the messages in the misogynistic
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Speaker 1: hate spewed by this alleged sex trafficker. This is in
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Speaker 1: his wor room. It structs members to quote punish victims
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Speaker 1: that would be women for transgressions by having her get
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Speaker 1: our name tattooed on her. One group leader, called a general,
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Speaker 1: describes how he hit a woman in the head with
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Speaker 1: her own keyboard when she complained about something. The woman
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Speaker 1: who worked for him then went in the room and
32:45
Speaker 1: worked seven hours without a break. It goes on and
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Speaker 1: on and on about how to beat and control women
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Speaker 1: to perform pornographic acts. Group sex, many online mini on screen.
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Speaker 1: Greg Algrin is joining us. Greg, A lot of what
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Speaker 1: I know from these alleged messages of Andrew Tates I
33:14
Speaker 1: can't bring myself to repeat on the air. But let
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Speaker 1: me ask you, what can the US do about it?
33:21
Speaker 1: Because there is there are so many victims here, I believe,
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Speaker 1: including one victim whose name has somehow been linked, and
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Speaker 1: all these a holes working for Tait or working under
33:34
Speaker 1: Tait have actually started trolling her and sending this woman
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Speaker 1: death threats. I mean, what are we going to do
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Speaker 1: about it? And what can we do about it?
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Speaker 11: Sure? So, the situation, it's just it's so outrageous that
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Speaker 11: it cries out for legal accountability. And I think, you know,
33:56
Speaker 11: eventually it has to catch up with all of them
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Speaker 11: in a permanent right, because Andrew Tate is a citizen
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Speaker 11: by birth of the United States, and so he can
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Speaker 11: flee the country, but he can't. He can't lose that citizenship.
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Speaker 11: And that means the US, with his network of mutual
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Speaker 11: legal assistance treaties, is always going to have an interest.
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Speaker 11: Perhaps you know, it's a question of sort of capturing
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Speaker 11: the attention of law enforcement, but the US has the
34:29
Speaker 11: means to catch up with it wherever he is and
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Speaker 11: ensure there's some legal accountability. So it needs to happen
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Speaker 11: a lot of times. It's very, very slow, it's bureaucratic,
34:41
Speaker 11: but it's a process that is it can be virtually
34:45
Speaker 11: impossible to escape from once it gets started. So hopefully
34:50
Speaker 11: we'll see sooner rather than later, that legal accountability. There's
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Speaker 11: a structure for it. It just needs to be engaged.
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Speaker 2: I want you to hear this.
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Speaker 1: Andrew take quote told rape victim he would get her pregnant,
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Speaker 1: lock her away, allegedly find webcam workers that started crying
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Speaker 1: during sex acts on webcam and tried to coerce them
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Speaker 1: into group sex, and then they started crying.
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Speaker 2: And so he punished them.
35:26
Speaker 1: This is his business that is making five million dollars
35:30
Speaker 1: a month. One victim claims Tate tried to force her
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Speaker 1: to have group sex and said shut up her when
35:39
Speaker 1: she tried to object.
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Speaker 2: There are hundreds and hundreds of.
35:45
Speaker 1: Pages of reported testimony and evidence verbally physically abusing these women.
35:52
Speaker 1: One woman tells Prosecutor's tape would rape her while holding
35:56
Speaker 1: her head so as she couldn't move, and threatened to
35:59
Speaker 1: get her pregnant. I mean it goes on and on
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Speaker 1: and on. He would take her clothes and shoes away
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Speaker 1: from her and continue to beat her. Shut up, horror,
36:12
Speaker 1: you will do as I say. I mean, it goes
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Speaker 1: on and on and on, and I'm reading you only
36:17
Speaker 1: portions of what I know. Many of these women, apparently Caitlin,
36:22
Speaker 1: are promised love a marriage, and then they are transported,
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Speaker 1: many of them to Romania, where they are gang raped,
36:31
Speaker 1: sex exploited, and subjected to physical violence. There are hundreds
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Speaker 1: and hundreds and hundreds of pages of reported violence. One
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Speaker 1: victim reports a take coworker, a henchman, threatens to quote
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Speaker 1: break her teeth.
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Speaker 2: That she would end up in the morgue.
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Speaker 1: The women creating porn fortates brothers webcam business allege their
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Speaker 1: income is controlled by the taps. They are fined or
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Speaker 1: punished if they start crying during a sex act, if
37:08
Speaker 1: they wipe their nose, if they take too long on
37:11
Speaker 1: a break.
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Speaker 2: It just goes on and on and on.
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Speaker 1: Book this guy, Try him and put him under the jail.
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Speaker 2: That's just my advice. Goodbye.