Latest / Trojan Marching Banter: The Official Podcast of The Spirit of Troy / Episode 106 · Saturday Night & We in the Spot
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- 0:09SPEAKER_01: Greetings everyone and welcome in.
- 0:11SPEAKER_01: We're back at it.
- 0:12SPEAKER_01: It is now not week one, not week two, three, or four, week one by week five, even.
- 0:18SPEAKER_01: We are now in week six of this absolutely insane TM Marching Man season.
- 0:24SPEAKER_01: And uh man, I'll tell you what, I'm excited.
- 0:26SPEAKER_01: What what a doozy of the five weeks it's been so far.
- 0:30SPEAKER_01: We've already had four home games.
- 0:31SPEAKER_01: We've already had one road game, and now we're entering into week six.
- 0:35SPEAKER_01: We've got yet another home game, the fifth home game.
- 0:39SPEAKER_01: And uh I couldn't do it without my uh my dear friend, my my my hip guy in arms.
- 0:45SPEAKER_01: Please give a big round of applause to Dante Douglas, everybody.
- 0:48SPEAKER_01: Woo!
- 0:49SPEAKER_00: Yo.
- 0:50SPEAKER_01: What's up, man?
- 0:51SPEAKER_01: How are you?
- 0:52SPEAKER_00: You know, surviving.
- 0:54SPEAKER_00: You know, we're we're out here doing the thing.
- 0:56SPEAKER_00: It's getting better week in and week out.
- 0:57SPEAKER_01: What's uh all right, so just as a moment of like reflection, um, how do you feel?
- 1:05SPEAKER_01: How do you feel going into week into week six here?
- 1:09SPEAKER_00: Uh I feel good.
- 1:10SPEAKER_00: Luckily, week six is a lighter load.
- 1:12SPEAKER_00: Um, not a lighter load for us, not a lighter load for KC, but um uh a lighter load uh as far as the show is concerned.
- 1:20SPEAKER_00: And it's a week turnaround.
- 1:22SPEAKER_00: We have three days to pretty much get it together and put it out on the field for another yet another great Saturday.
- 1:27SPEAKER_01: I know it's it's it's gonna be a wild time.
- 1:30SPEAKER_01: I uh I'm excited because we're doing we've got a lot of collaboration coming up uh this upcoming weekend.
- 1:36SPEAKER_01: So we've got this homecoming spectacular.
- 1:39SPEAKER_01: Prior to homecoming, though, we've got SDA joining us for a brief segment at the start of the show.
- 1:45SPEAKER_01: Um and it's so I know I so it's funny, I think these initial conversations, and maybe, maybe next week we'll have to we'll yoink Gabby in here and kind of pick her brain apart on this thing.
- 1:56SPEAKER_01: But um with this this concept, this pink concept that she cooked up, I was not there for like the birthing of this idea.
- 2:04SPEAKER_01: It just came you, you all like, here, here's what we think.
- 2:07SPEAKER_01: And I'm like, it's October, it's uh actually it's October 3rd, right?
- 2:12SPEAKER_01: It's homecoming, it's breast cancer awareness month.
- 2:15SPEAKER_01: So, what what were those initial conversations?
- 2:17SPEAKER_01: And then we'll grill Casey about homecoming after that.
- 2:21SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I think it all linked into starting back, I guess, our bandcamp Wednesday when everyone wears pink.
- 2:26SPEAKER_00: So it kind of went off of that, and then all these all of a lot of our students are legally blonde, um, mean girls.
- 2:34SPEAKER_00: They're just fans of these films and plays, or however they present themselves in that moment.
- 2:39SPEAKER_00: Um, they're really just fans of them, and it all worked well.
- 2:42SPEAKER_00: You know, pink is as we know, a national thing.
- 2:46SPEAKER_00: Um, so with breast cancer, and then the movie leaning on pink and all this stuff that can just be pink.
- 2:52SPEAKER_00: And so here we are, we're presenting pink on October 3rd, which I still don't quite know the significance of because I've never seen the films.
- 3:00SPEAKER_01: Uh well, I'll tell you what, the most significant piece of October 3rd is I am 99% certain that that's the date I asked Jessica out for the first time.
- 3:11SPEAKER_00: Ah, significant.
- 3:13SPEAKER_01: You know the reason I say 99, my my my parents, their anniversary is October 4th.
- 3:20SPEAKER_01: But they're too these dates are too close.
- 3:23SPEAKER_01: So I just I'm constantly in flux, messing this up.
- 3:26SPEAKER_01: But October 3rd, I'm no, I'm confident.
- 3:28SPEAKER_01: I would say it.
- 3:29SPEAKER_01: I would I would lean into it.
- 3:30SPEAKER_01: I would swing at this pitch.
- 3:31SPEAKER_01: You know what I mean?
- 3:32SPEAKER_01: I'd go for it.
- 3:33SPEAKER_01: Um, but no, in the movie Mean Girls, um starring Lindsay Lohan and uh Tina Faye, and amongst oh, and Rachel McAdams, a lot of great actors in this movie.
- 3:44SPEAKER_01: Tim Meadows plays the principal, which is a lot of fun.
- 3:49SPEAKER_01: But this movie um there's a scene in it where her crush looks, you know, she asks him what the date is, or he turns around and asks her, what's the date?
- 3:59SPEAKER_01: She says it's October 3rd.
- 4:01SPEAKER_01: And then um in the movie, the the oh, what do they call themselves?
- 4:05SPEAKER_01: Brett Brett and Casey, I need your help now.
- 4:07SPEAKER_01: What do they what does Regina George and her crew call themselves?
- 4:11SPEAKER_01: You remember?
- 4:12SPEAKER_06: They are the plastics.
- 4:14SPEAKER_01: The plastics, the plastic.
- 4:16SPEAKER_01: They don't call themselves that.
- 4:18SPEAKER_06: No, I think others call them that.
- 4:20SPEAKER_01: So they are the mean girls, and on Wednesdays they wear pink.
- 4:25SPEAKER_01: And so there's kind of like this the two moments have nothing in common in the movie.
- 4:30SPEAKER_01: They're not even kind of close together, but as um as Lindsay Lohan's character gets like embraced into this mean girl, this little clan, right?
- 4:39SPEAKER_01: Um, they tell, you know, on Wednesdays we wear pink and we do this, this, that, and it's just it's it's you know an encapsulation of that earth late 90s, early 2000s, you know, mean girl culture.
- 4:48SPEAKER_01: And that's really what the movie's commentating on.
- 4:51SPEAKER_01: And but the idea of wearing pink on Wednesdays with a band, I think was born of that a little bit.
- 4:55SPEAKER_01: And then this being a game on October 3rd, it's like all those check boxes are there.
- 5:00SPEAKER_01: That's why it made sense to me.
- 5:01SPEAKER_01: That's why when you initially said it, because I knew like I think if I were like you, if I didn't know any of that, I'd have been like, what?
- 5:07SPEAKER_01: No, I don't know what you're saying to me.
- 5:09SPEAKER_01: Get out of here, but at least I knew it.
- 5:11SPEAKER_01: Um, but the uh do you do you know kind of like the the snake eating its own tail of mean girls Dante?
- 5:18SPEAKER_01: Do you know any of that stuff?
- 5:20SPEAKER_01: Nope.
- 5:21SPEAKER_01: So and then Brett, you'll fact check me on this.
- 5:23SPEAKER_01: So it starts as a book, as a novel.
- 5:26SPEAKER_01: Uh like the it's like the Meet Queen Bee or something.
- 5:29SPEAKER_01: I think that's kind of the title of that.
- 5:31SPEAKER_01: Maybe Brett, you can look it up and and chime in what that original novel is.
- 5:36SPEAKER_01: But the novel gets adapted to a screenplay.
- 5:38SPEAKER_01: This movie comes out, Lindsay Lohan, etc.
- 5:41SPEAKER_01: Then that movie gets adapted to a stage musical on Broadway.
- 5:46SPEAKER_01: Then that stage musical gets readapted as a film, and they do a re not or a rehash of the movie in 23, 24, or something like that.
- 5:57SPEAKER_01: They push the film out again, but a film version of the stage musical.
- 6:01SPEAKER_01: So it just it keeps going, it just keeps running, it's never gonna stop.
- 6:04SPEAKER_01: So uh there you go, Dante.
- 6:06SPEAKER_01: There's some uh mean girls mansplaining for you this morning.
- 6:10SPEAKER_00: Now I got it.
- 6:12SPEAKER_01: All right, so that'll be super fun.
- 6:14SPEAKER_01: Excited for SDA to to jump in on that.
- 6:17SPEAKER_01: So KC homecoming.
- 6:20SPEAKER_01: Are you excited, Kenneth?
- 6:24SPEAKER_01: Yay.
- 6:25SPEAKER_01: KC, who do we have this year?
- 6:27SPEAKER_01: Who's who's jamming with us at halftime this year?
- 6:30SPEAKER_06: Well, for the first and only time in history, we have a three-peat.
- 6:35SPEAKER_06: Uh it's the Woodwinds and Silks again.
- 6:37SPEAKER_06: It was the Woodwinds, Silks, and Spirit Alum and Yellow Alum in 2024.
- 6:45SPEAKER_06: And it was full band last year.
- 6:47SPEAKER_06: Right.
- 6:48SPEAKER_06: And this year it's back to Woodwinds and Silks because of our great restructuring as a result of COVID and then bringing in three new sections to the alumni band.
- 6:59SPEAKER_02: Right.
- 7:00SPEAKER_06: Uh so we're we're now, as of right now, we're on the new schedule for halftime for the remaining forever.
- 7:08SPEAKER_06: And this one time only, Woodwins and Silks, it's it's your time again.
- 7:11SPEAKER_06: Yeah.
- 7:12SPEAKER_06: Three years in a row.
- 7:13SPEAKER_01: What a I mean, how what fun though, huh?
- 7:15SPEAKER_01: Come on.
- 7:17SPEAKER_01: We love the Woodwinds and it's gonna be a lot of fun.
- 7:19SPEAKER_06: It's gonna be a lot of fun.
- 7:20SPEAKER_01: And uh play sing.
- 7:23SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
- 7:23SPEAKER_06: And they're gonna play uh another C uh I don't know if I should have given away the first one, so I'm gonna keep the second one closed.
- 7:31SPEAKER_01: No, give it away.
- 7:32SPEAKER_01: Give it away, because I'm certain, I'm positive, there's an alum out there who does not know what we're playing on Saturday, and this is how they're gonna find out what they're playing.
- 7:41SPEAKER_06: Well, I did email them.
- 7:43SPEAKER_06: Doesn't matter.
- 7:44SPEAKER_06: It doesn't matter.
- 7:45SPEAKER_01: Email?
- 7:46SPEAKER_01: No one reads Casey.
- 7:47SPEAKER_01: You tell me no one reads emails.
- 7:49SPEAKER_06: You gotta uh it's you're gonna go far, kid.
- 7:54SPEAKER_01: You're gonna go far, kid.
- 7:55SPEAKER_01: A great, a great woodwind feat.
- 7:58SPEAKER_01: Lots of dancing throughout in the Woodwinds.
- 8:01SPEAKER_01: Um, a lot of fun.
- 8:03SPEAKER_01: I do this in in Catalina's.
- 8:05SPEAKER_01: I'll rip the woodwind, put them right up front, have them dance in front of God and everybody.
- 8:09SPEAKER_01: It's a grand old time.
- 8:10SPEAKER_01: It's kind of become the uh, you know, if I do like a section feature, right?
- 8:14SPEAKER_01: We've got Heartbreaker, you know, Tower of Power.
- 8:17SPEAKER_01: I'll do, you know, I'll hype up the drums and the silks for Sing Sing Sing, and then you know, I'll throw the woodwinds and do you're gonna go far kid.
- 8:23SPEAKER_01: And it's a it's a grand old time.
- 8:25SPEAKER_01: Um, so yeah, sing sing sing with the silks, super excited, legendary choreography.
- 8:30SPEAKER_01: Since 1984, we've had this um, you know, this sort of existence of the silks with sing sing sing this this DNA put together, and then you're gonna go far kid is a new tune.
- 8:42SPEAKER_01: It's funny, I didn't know this.
- 8:43SPEAKER_01: Mrs.
- 8:44SPEAKER_01: Vogel was there when you're gonna go far kid was born.
- 8:46SPEAKER_01: She was there when we first played it.
- 8:48SPEAKER_01: Um so now she's officially an old alum.
- 8:51SPEAKER_01: That's how that goes.
- 8:52SPEAKER_01: Once once the chart is in.
- 8:55SPEAKER_01: Uh, but yeah, she was she was telling me that uh it was handed out.
- 8:59SPEAKER_01: I think it was probably 2007.
- 9:01SPEAKER_01: If that does that sound about right to you, Brett, when that song kind of came to be.
- 9:05SPEAKER_04: Yeah, it sounds correct.
- 9:06SPEAKER_01: Yeah, so 2007, hard to believe.
- 9:09SPEAKER_01: Nineteen years ago with this program.
- 9:13SPEAKER_01: I was not here then.
- 9:14SPEAKER_01: Brett, you were here.
- 9:15SPEAKER_01: What was the band like in 2007, Brett?
- 9:17SPEAKER_04: Give us a little retrospective of what things were uh it was about the same, except there was another guy leading it.
- 9:24SPEAKER_01: Yeah, what was he like?
- 9:27SPEAKER_01: He got angry a lot.
- 9:28SPEAKER_01: He sure did.
- 9:30SPEAKER_01: He sure did.
- 9:30SPEAKER_01: He turned 67 that year.
- 9:33SPEAKER_01: What a what a fun what a fun time.
- 9:35SPEAKER_01: Dr.
- 9:36SPEAKER_01: B, shout out to you.
- 9:37SPEAKER_01: Hope you're doing well.
- 9:38SPEAKER_01: Okay, so homecoming, lots of.
- 9:40SPEAKER_06: And he listens, he listens to the podcast.
- 9:41SPEAKER_01: I know he does.
- 9:42SPEAKER_01: I know.
- 9:43SPEAKER_01: We gotta get him on here.
- 9:45SPEAKER_01: We gotta get a special guest in here, get a history lesson.
- 9:48SPEAKER_04: You know what we better edit out that angry comment then.
- 9:51SPEAKER_01: No, I'll leave it in.
- 9:52SPEAKER_01: You know, you know what we ought to do is um, you know what'd be fun?
- 9:56SPEAKER_01: We should have him like, we should do like a drill cross, right?
- 9:59SPEAKER_01: Like have him dissect a Dante drill and have Dante dissect a Dr.
- 10:02SPEAKER_01: Bart.
- 10:03SPEAKER_01: How do you how's that sound, Dante?
- 10:04SPEAKER_01: Does that sound fun?
- 10:05SPEAKER_01: Let's do it.
- 10:05SPEAKER_01: Let's do it.
- 10:07SPEAKER_01: You know, I don't know if I'd have put the horns on the 30-yard line.
- 10:13SPEAKER_01: It's always the 35.
- 10:14SPEAKER_01: You know, who knows?
- 10:15SPEAKER_01: It'd be great.
- 10:16SPEAKER_01: It'd be awesome.
- 10:17SPEAKER_01: Aye, aye, aye.
- 10:18SPEAKER_01: All right, so let's look back.
- 10:20SPEAKER_01: We just had a game against Oregon.
- 10:22SPEAKER_01: Um, it's kind of a blur.
- 10:24SPEAKER_01: I don't remember what happened uh with the game.
- 10:26SPEAKER_01: I remember I liked the halftime show.
- 10:28SPEAKER_01: And I liked, I liked how that went down.
- 10:31SPEAKER_01: Uh, but what a rough game, huh?
- 10:33SPEAKER_01: We can do a quick, quick commentary on that tough loss on Oregon.
- 10:37SPEAKER_01: Uh Casey Brett, what do you what do you want to say?
- 10:39SPEAKER_01: Or no, Dante, let's hear your take first.
- 10:41SPEAKER_01: What do you what do you think about the game?
- 10:43SPEAKER_00: You know, you win some, you lose some.
- 10:45SPEAKER_00: They gonna I have faith that they'll figure it out.
- 10:48SPEAKER_00: You know, it just was a tough battle.
- 10:50SPEAKER_00: Um that's what film is for.
- 10:53SPEAKER_00: And this weekend should come in with a different mindset.
- 10:58SPEAKER_00: Believe in them, and we'll see a difference.
- 11:01SPEAKER_00: Great.
- 11:01SPEAKER_00: It was it definitely was a bummer, you know, but because we're all into it and we're all in it together, and so we're counting on them to figure it out.
- 11:09SPEAKER_01: And gosh, when's the last time we lost at home?
- 11:13SPEAKER_00: Two years?
- 11:14SPEAKER_01: It's been a minute.
- 11:15SPEAKER_04: It's it's we didn't we didn't lose it at home last year.
- 11:17SPEAKER_01: We didn't lose it at home last year.
- 11:19SPEAKER_00: Last year for sure.
- 11:19SPEAKER_01: So it'd have been the 24 season against I don't does anyone remember?
- 11:25SPEAKER_00: It was it was rare, so it's it's not just at the top of the dome like that.
- 11:29SPEAKER_01: I almost I almost forgot what to do.
- 11:31SPEAKER_01: Like we tricker, like yeah, well, what's like we're getting to the end of postgame, and I'm looking at the clock, I'm like, all right, I gotta do Animal House and then the alma mater and then Tusk and then Conquest.
- 11:41SPEAKER_01: I'm like, wait a minute.
- 11:43SPEAKER_01: And it just it was like I was like, we did an or in Animal House.
- 11:46SPEAKER_01: I'm like, oh wait.
- 11:48SPEAKER_01: Aye, aye, aye.
- 11:49SPEAKER_01: No, I guess I still could have done Conquest.
- 11:52SPEAKER_01: So we could have all yelled beat the Huskies, right?
- 11:55SPEAKER_01: But but I don't know, Brett.
- 11:57SPEAKER_01: I and this is this is funny, like I all my years, it's like we don't lose like we're we're not a lose at home program, so it's like racking my brain.
- 12:04SPEAKER_01: I don't, you know, in 24 did I play conquest at the very, very end is like the final send-off.
- 12:09SPEAKER_01: I don't know if I did.
- 12:11SPEAKER_04: I don't that's a really good point.
- 12:14SPEAKER_04: I don't know.
- 12:15SPEAKER_04: I don't think you do, right?
- 12:16SPEAKER_04: You don't play conquest uh even at the end of the postgame set.
- 12:19SPEAKER_04: Yeah, if we lose.
- 12:21SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
- 12:22SPEAKER_01: Anyway, bummer.
- 12:23unknown: Yeah.
- 12:23SPEAKER_06: It's either tribute or from the top.
- 12:25SPEAKER_01: It was well, this time it was tribute and fight on, but yeah, that's what what's tape is for.
- 12:30SPEAKER_01: KC, how did how was it on uh TV?
- 12:32SPEAKER_01: How is it for you?
- 12:35SPEAKER_06: Uh, you know, the the TV experience once the the game gets out of hand, you know, you kind of have to mute it because ever everybody listening at home knows the commentators start talking about the episode of Family Guy that's airing after this or something else.
- 12:52SPEAKER_06: And you're meanwhile, you're upset.
- 12:54SPEAKER_06: You're upsetti spaghetti, and you could not care less about what variety show is coming on in the next half hour.
- 13:02SPEAKER_06: Uh so most I I would imagine most people mute the broadcast.
- 13:07SPEAKER_06: Uh which is which is what I did.
- 13:10SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I guess maybe that's why maybe we ought to live stream our own um, you know, our own our own audio.
- 13:17SPEAKER_01: So you can just get us just the band feed.
- 13:19SPEAKER_01: So you can just listen.
- 13:20SPEAKER_01: Just listen to the plays, you know, hear the music and and get that going.
- 13:25SPEAKER_01: Maybe we should do that.
- 13:25SPEAKER_01: What do you think, Casey?
- 13:29SPEAKER_06: I I think we we should get some help from that from uh from the Coliseum, and if that happens, then we'd be well equipped to do so.
- 13:38SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
- 13:38SPEAKER_01: All right, Brett, how about you?
- 13:40SPEAKER_01: How was it for you?
- 13:42SPEAKER_04: Uh the game?
- 13:44SPEAKER_04: Yeah.
- 13:45SPEAKER_04: Yeah, it was um it ended.
- 13:51SPEAKER_04: It ended.
- 13:52SPEAKER_04: Yep.
- 13:53SPEAKER_01: Uh yeah.
- 13:55SPEAKER_01: Well, fun, fun atmosphere on campus beforehand, though.
- 13:58SPEAKER_01: Oh my goodness.
- 13:59SPEAKER_01: Yes, right.
- 13:59SPEAKER_01: It's great.
- 14:00SPEAKER_01: Great problems to have.
- 14:01SPEAKER_01: Too many people.
- 14:03SPEAKER_01: Um the the rally at Beauvard, you know, you get there and it's just where do the tubas go?
- 14:09SPEAKER_01: Stand on somebody's shoulders, you know, it's just absolute pandemonium there.
- 14:14SPEAKER_01: But fun, fun environment on campus, uh, no doubt.
- 14:18SPEAKER_01: I uh for me, these cut these the losses are tough, especially when it's kind of you know a slow atrophy, like we had it, like we were trying, but you could just you were we're what just watching it wind down and just keeping the band students in it.
- 14:32SPEAKER_01: You know, that's always the tough part.
- 14:34SPEAKER_01: Um but I think it's important, it's important that we do it, right?
- 14:38SPEAKER_01: It's important that we keep doing what we do and not we can't give up, right?
- 14:43SPEAKER_01: We have to just stay in it and stay after it.
- 14:45SPEAKER_01: But I will say, we mean we were we were climbing back.
- 14:49SPEAKER_01: We we were getting them, we were getting to them, and I was I was and the band was into it, the crowd was into it, and bam, that roughing the passer call.
- 14:58SPEAKER_01: And then I think that was it.
- 15:00SPEAKER_01: That was the that was the big whammy on us on that one.
- 15:03SPEAKER_01: But you know, say Lavi, here we are.
- 15:05SPEAKER_01: We're in a new week.
- 15:06SPEAKER_01: We've got the Huskies this weekend.
- 15:08SPEAKER_01: Oh, yeah, we're gonna beat them, right?
- 15:10SPEAKER_01: Dante, we're gonna beat them for sure.
- 15:13SPEAKER_01: For sure.
- 15:14SPEAKER_01: All right, let's talk halftime show.
- 15:18SPEAKER_01: So, Dante Phillipson, who uh tell us about the show.
- 15:22SPEAKER_01: Like, obviously, it's we did Bruno Mars and and a lot of the music we we've already done, but tell us about the drill, the conception, how that all came to be, and who are who are the integral players in putting the show together?
- 15:33SPEAKER_00: Uh yeah, cool.
- 15:34SPEAKER_00: So this show we did a collab.
- 15:36SPEAKER_00: Um, out of the three movements that we marched on, I opened up the show.
- 15:40SPEAKER_00: Uh, Sammy did the third tune, and then I closed us out.
- 15:44SPEAKER_00: Um, so for those of you who don't know, this is always interesting because you're piggybacking off somebody else's idea.
- 15:51SPEAKER_00: Um, and so wherever I ended my last set, it's the job of the next drill designer to pick up on that and then think about setting me up for success on the closer.
- 16:00SPEAKER_00: Um, so we did have some interactions when he was working to say, hey, I'm thinking about going here.
- 16:05SPEAKER_00: Is it a possibility that you can think about that when you're going to this formation?
- 16:09SPEAKER_00: And so it it's it's a kind of a back and forth, it's a great collaboration.
- 16:13SPEAKER_00: Um, it allows you to get into each other's head and also just piggyback off of each other.
- 16:17SPEAKER_00: So um, the beginning of this drill was really cool.
- 16:20SPEAKER_00: Um, it opens up with the trombones, and so I thought, why not sit them smack data center?
- 16:26SPEAKER_00: They don't have to worry about sliding, no turning goes, they're just pushing forward and just sending the sound straight at the audience.
- 16:32SPEAKER_00: So that was that idea with that design there.
- 16:35SPEAKER_00: Um, the trumpets came in next.
- 16:36SPEAKER_00: So I kind of had the trumpets winged on the side of the trombones, and then they had their moment and they came to the front, and then boom, now we're back to that stack sound that I keep talking about where the trumpets, trombones, tubers, horns are doing their thing.
- 16:49SPEAKER_00: Um, then the whirlwinds, I wrote that backwards.
- 16:52SPEAKER_00: It's pretty cool.
- 16:52SPEAKER_00: Um yeah, I put I put them in that block first, and then I grouped them all together, and then I just did the backwards uh intertwining of the follower the leader out backwards for however many counts it took.
- 17:05SPEAKER_00: And so I think it was 64 counts.
- 17:07SPEAKER_00: So after those 64 counts, they end it back up in that box.
- 17:10SPEAKER_01: All right, so you're talking about so when you all right, hold on.
- 17:13SPEAKER_01: I'm gonna I'm gonna switch up here.
- 17:14SPEAKER_01: Here we go.
- 17:15SPEAKER_01: BLAMO.
- 17:19SPEAKER_01: All right, you know what I'm realizing is um you know what, Brett and KC?
- 17:25SPEAKER_01: I don't have you guys, and you're not, I didn't invite your little widgets to the screen share.
- 17:30SPEAKER_01: Like we're we're looking at the halftime show right now, but no, there's no Brett or KC.
- 17:34SPEAKER_01: You're just voices in the wind.
- 17:35SPEAKER_01: How's that sound, boys?
- 17:36SPEAKER_01: Is that okay?
- 17:36SPEAKER_05: That that's fine.
- 17:37SPEAKER_05: That's fine.
- 17:38SPEAKER_05: I'm not gonna talk if I don't see my let's not tempt fate.
- 17:44SPEAKER_01: Next time, what I'm gonna do, we're uh I'm gonna wear Zwaldo it.
- 17:48SPEAKER_01: And I'm gonna make him real teeny tiny, and then we're gonna we're gonna see if people can find you in the crowd.
- 17:53SPEAKER_01: How's that sound?
- 17:55SPEAKER_01: We'll do that.
- 17:56SPEAKER_01: All right.
- 17:56SPEAKER_01: So what so now that I I've got it, I've got it pulled up.
- 17:59SPEAKER_01: You can't see what I what I'm looking at.
- 18:01SPEAKER_01: But you're talking about you worked backwards.
- 18:02SPEAKER_01: Did you work backwards from the final set or from the dance block?
- 18:05SPEAKER_00: From the dance block.
- 18:06SPEAKER_00: The dance block was my first thing that I laid down.
- 18:09SPEAKER_01: Okay.
- 18:09SPEAKER_01: So we're looking at cool dance block.
- 18:12SPEAKER_01: Um, I really liked it because we've got um, you know, the brass in the center, you know, in that block, but then you've got the woodwinds in these diagonals, right?
- 18:20SPEAKER_01: So we can see a lot of that dancing activity.
- 18:23SPEAKER_01: So now you're saying the follow the leaders ahead of that.
- 18:27SPEAKER_01: You you backwards, basically backwards marched them all the way to the start.
- 18:32SPEAKER_01: Look at you.
- 18:33SPEAKER_01: What a guy.
- 18:34SPEAKER_01: Uh smart.
- 18:35SPEAKER_01: See, I like working backwards.
- 18:37SPEAKER_01: See, when I was in high school, we used to learn our drill for shows.
- 18:39SPEAKER_01: We'd learn the third movement first, which was it.
- 18:43SPEAKER_01: I if I'm being honest, I loved it.
- 18:45SPEAKER_01: And I would still do that now, but I think some of these students would just lose their minds.
- 18:48SPEAKER_01: They just they they couldn't comprehend it.
- 18:50SPEAKER_00: Um was the idea behind that to end strong all the time?
- 18:54SPEAKER_00: Like the the the ending was confident and presenting?
- 18:57SPEAKER_01: Yeah, the the philosophy was all right, you're you're in a competition, and how did my band what did she say?
- 19:03SPEAKER_01: She was so funny.
- 19:04SPEAKER_01: She's like, I know how all you kids are.
- 19:06SPEAKER_01: It's like you're on the bus, and then your friend says some, makes some comment, and now you're mad at them, and then you go to subway and you're still mad at them, and then you you get out there for the comp and you're trying to persevere through it, but you're 17, you don't know how to process your own emotions, and then you're dealing with all that you're you're thinking about all these things, and you get to the end of the show, and the idea was that the deeper you got in the show, the more familiar it was.
- 19:27SPEAKER_01: So then those instincts, you know, would take over in those moments where you would, you know, sort of lose focus.
- 19:34SPEAKER_01: Um, which I I I think there's a strong philosophy there.
- 19:37SPEAKER_01: I we certainly see it a lot, like the beginning, a lot of times the beginning drills are a lot stronger than the ending drills, or vice versa, or you know, or or not.
- 19:44SPEAKER_01: We benefited this time because the last drill um had that music that we had repeated from the week before or two weeks before.
- 19:51SPEAKER_01: So we had that there.
- 19:52SPEAKER_01: Now, here's what's insane, my guy.
- 19:55SPEAKER_01: Uh yeah, you had the the trombones down the middle, but methinks you had the tubas even closer to the sideline than the trombones were.
- 20:03SPEAKER_01: Is that right?
- 20:04SPEAKER_00: Yeah, it was it was all intentional to get that bass sound established, and then whoever wasn't uh important in the beginning, the whole idea was to let them counter the trombone.
- 20:17SPEAKER_00: So push everybody forward, and then they then counter the trombone movement coming to the sideline.
- 20:23SPEAKER_01: So right.
- 20:24SPEAKER_01: And I know it's not because of the nature of audio recording, you know, the mics are up front and they're pointed at the band.
- 20:29SPEAKER_01: They're doing so they're really picking up a lot of the directional sound.
- 20:33SPEAKER_01: Um, but I remember commenting to you the way you have it, because those trombones are jammed in the middle, folks at home, you may not know this.
- 20:39SPEAKER_01: The opening of Uptown Funk, that main melody, yes, the trombones have it, but it is doubled in as many of the woodwinds as can possibly play those notes.
- 20:49SPEAKER_01: So the tenor saxes are playing it, the alto saxes are playing it, and then the clarinets are also playing that melody kind of in the throat tone of the instrument.
- 20:57SPEAKER_01: And so you have all of this reedy, woodwindy sound supporting it.
- 21:02SPEAKER_01: So in the drill, the first thing I notice when we're rehearsing it, yeah, the trombones are at me, but you can hear this woodwind color just coming in over the top of it, uh, especially the higher you get because of the omnidirectional nature of those instruments.
- 21:15SPEAKER_01: So I'm sure all the people in the wings really appreciated having those woodwinds outboard because now you're really hearing that melody all throughout the stadium.
- 21:22SPEAKER_01: Very smart, very smart, Dante.
- 21:24SPEAKER_01: A plus for you, Gold Star.
- 21:26SPEAKER_01: Let's hear some of this uptown funk, shall we?
- 21:28SPEAKER_01: Let's do it.
- 21:29SPEAKER_01: I think you guys are gonna hear it too.
- 21:31SPEAKER_01: Here we go.
- 22:36SPEAKER_01: Now this looks really cool with all of this um this choreography we added in the right, yeah, the left, right?
- 22:43SPEAKER_01: My nerdy band Dr.
- 22:45SPEAKER_01: V choreography.
- 22:46SPEAKER_01: But it you were right.
- 22:48SPEAKER_01: This was you telling them that, and then me knowing they wouldn't do it, so I just had to grab grab it and do it.
- 22:53SPEAKER_01: But it does add a lot to that drill set.
- 22:55SPEAKER_01: And in watching it, um, they actually ended up cleaning the form during that choreography.
- 23:00SPEAKER_01: I don't know if you noticed on game date.
- 23:01SPEAKER_01: Like they they did a little tweaking of it.
- 23:03SPEAKER_01: All right, here we go.
- 23:04SPEAKER_01: Resolving out of the dance routine.
- 23:25SPEAKER_01: Now tell me, what was the the inspiration for this big diamond set you had going on?
- 23:31SPEAKER_00: It's always the same idea there.
- 23:33SPEAKER_00: Um expanding the woodwinds out and going stretching this way.
- 23:40SPEAKER_01: Getting the woodwinds out and then keeping the um Yeah.
- 23:46SPEAKER_00: So I think next time I'm thinking exploring more curvilinear forms now.
- 23:49SPEAKER_00: This time I've kind of kept it very boxy and clean.
- 23:52SPEAKER_00: So I'll kind of explore the next time.
- 23:54SPEAKER_00: Still the same idea going there.
- 23:57SPEAKER_01: Yeah, gotcha.
- 23:58SPEAKER_01: I certainly feel it.
- 23:59SPEAKER_01: I know, and it's um it's very clear when we're on these road games, and if I really have to pack in the woodwinds, it the the the impact of the band doesn't feel the same because that sounds getting sucked up by all the bodies, right?
- 24:12SPEAKER_01: And so the more kind of the air you can get around it, especially, you know, uh and I really say especially these road games because we're in the stands, we're playing so much, like we're just playing constantly just to be a menace to the other team that uh anytime I can kind of, especially the saxophones, it just helps push that trumpet and trombone sound and really, you know, get it out there, get it down.
- 24:32SPEAKER_01: But no, very cool set, very cool drill.
- 24:35SPEAKER_01: Uh looks great, easy to learn.
- 24:37SPEAKER_01: Thank you, Mr.
- 24:38SPEAKER_01: D.
- 24:38SPEAKER_01: Solid stuff.
- 24:39SPEAKER_00: I will note our song and spirit are looking really clean and crisp.
- 24:43SPEAKER_00: Like these white palms that they have on the spirit side, they added so much clut color.
- 24:48SPEAKER_00: Like, I mean, Jesus, it was it was it was just cool to watch.
- 24:53SPEAKER_01: Yeah, really, really neat, really sharp.
- 24:55SPEAKER_01: Um yeah, the the the white, and it's great because you've got white outfits with red and uh cardinal and gold contrasted, and then red outfits with the white.
- 25:04SPEAKER_01: So it was in there, yeah, they're really bringing it.
- 25:06SPEAKER_01: It's really cool.
- 25:07SPEAKER_01: Um, I think all the auxiliaries really, really dug deep for Uptown Funk.
- 25:10SPEAKER_01: It was really neat.
- 25:11SPEAKER_01: I was I was joking this week, it was one of the rehearsals.
- 25:14SPEAKER_01: Uh the silks just nailed whatever this thing they were doing, it was these big moves, they nailed it.
- 25:20SPEAKER_01: And then right at the end, one person kind of fumbled a little bit, and I was about to like hype them up on the mic, and I'm like, no, no, no, no, not this time.
- 25:29SPEAKER_01: Not they'll they'll they'll get their moment, they'll get there.
- 25:32SPEAKER_01: Um, but great.
- 25:32SPEAKER_01: And Runaway Baby, we got to feature, you know, Song and Spirit in the Silks, really let them really let them cut loose on um on that one, and then we step out again, locked out of heaven.
- 25:44SPEAKER_01: Uh this was um this was a great exercise in patience.
- 25:49SPEAKER_01: Uh, we'll talk about patience later.
- 25:51SPEAKER_01: But for me with the band was to keep the tempo down on this one because we were churning real quarter note time.
- 25:58SPEAKER_01: Uh uh tempo was pushing, you know, close to 140.
- 26:01SPEAKER_01: And so I was trying to make sure that they didn't let it creep into that 150 uh uh 156 territory, which as a standstill I probably would because I think it the song can get a little long in the tooth.
- 26:13SPEAKER_01: But we really needed them to uh to hold back a touch so they could actually get their legs through it, chew through it.
- 26:20SPEAKER_01: Uh and this was this was the one you had um Sammy doing, right?
- 26:24SPEAKER_00: Correct.
- 26:24SPEAKER_01: And this this was our first picture we got to a record player on this one.
- 26:28SPEAKER_01: Uh and um actually more of like a flat top turntable, almost like a DJ knobs and kind of a thing, right?
- 26:35SPEAKER_01: Not an old school phonograph as it was.
- 26:37SPEAKER_00: Yeah, his first idea was trying to uh create the trying to go on the nose.
- 26:42SPEAKER_00: Is the album is Unorthodox jukebox?
- 26:44SPEAKER_00: I think is the name of the album.
- 26:45SPEAKER_01: Yep, yep.
- 26:46SPEAKER_00: And so he tried to do a jukebox, but it ended up just looking like a building.
- 26:50SPEAKER_00: Or a tombstone.
- 26:51SPEAKER_00: Yeah, just what it's gonna turn out to be.
- 26:54SPEAKER_00: So he had to pivot and pull an element off of the idea and then make it the larger picture.
- 27:01SPEAKER_01: And and put it together and make it work that way.
- 27:03SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
- 27:04SPEAKER_01: Um, and then but yeah, this was our first kind of at least for this show, this is our picture with animation, right?
- 27:10SPEAKER_01: The first time we got it.
- 27:12SPEAKER_01: So let's, I'm gonna back up a little bit.
- 27:15SPEAKER_01: Let me let me find the animation.
- 27:19SPEAKER_01: Okay, and I'm gonna get ahead of it.
- 27:21SPEAKER_01: All right, we're gonna, I'm gonna run that.
- 27:23SPEAKER_01: We're gonna watch this thing animate.
- 27:24SPEAKER_01: So the needle drops, and then the record spins, huh?
- 27:28SPEAKER_01: So here we go.
- 27:29SPEAKER_01: Let's give it a go.
- 28:01SPEAKER_01: And this one was a lot of fun for me because this is a a song we've done before.
- 28:06SPEAKER_01: It's from the past, uh, and it was a um a great arrangement by Tony.
- 28:11SPEAKER_01: And then I went, because I can't leave well enough alone, I went in and tinkered a little bit.
- 28:15SPEAKER_01: Um, but really what the tinkering was was to like put color changes within it that weren't previously there, and then give, you know, the trumpets trauma, like give each of the big, you know, melodic sections a chance to kind of like breathe and get their life figured out.
- 28:29SPEAKER_01: Although I will say, we, you know, having us put that ripping chair on a on a fast count four in the middle of a quarter note triplet goes poor, we're sorry, uh sorry, trumpets, you know, we'll we'll ask for forgiveness on that one.
- 28:43SPEAKER_01: So so now you talk about um trading off and then picking up the ball from that drill.
- 28:50SPEAKER_01: Um, what was like what was the biggest challenge in in getting yourself set up then for I Just Might at the end of the show?
- 28:56SPEAKER_00: Biggest question.
- 28:58SPEAKER_00: Um the answer is very simple.
- 29:01SPEAKER_00: Anytime we have an animation, there's probably some uh cross-pollination of instruments.
- 29:07SPEAKER_00: So when that needle hit inside of that record, now that puts the trumpets behind the trombones, and that's not typically where we have them all the time.
- 29:15SPEAKER_00: So getting them out of that record in that next set was a bit tricky.
- 29:19SPEAKER_00: Um, and this is where teamwork comes in.
- 29:21SPEAKER_00: Because of the fast turnaround in this drill, I kind of left the transition a little wonky and was like, oh, we can figure it out.
- 29:28SPEAKER_00: And then um our good other in-house drill writer comes the day of rehearsal.
- 29:32SPEAKER_00: It's like, hey, anything we should be.
- 29:34SPEAKER_00: This is Chris Norton, by the way.
- 29:36SPEAKER_00: Uh anything, anything we should know about going into the rehearsal.
- 29:39SPEAKER_00: I was like, Yeah, there's this interaction here, we we'll have to fix it on the spot.
- 29:42SPEAKER_00: And he looked at me, he said, I said, Yes, Chris, I know I was being lazy.
- 29:47SPEAKER_00: I I understand this.
- 29:50SPEAKER_00: And so in that moment, because of technology, I can pull out my laptop literally on that uh rehearsal, yeah, put it right on the soundbox, make that edit in five minutes, and then kind of upload it back and get it figured out.
- 30:02SPEAKER_00: Get it figured out, and so it's less on the students to think about, and it does put more on the designer to figure it out for them, but it does make the rehearsal and the uh reps a little bit more cleaner and efficient.
- 30:13SPEAKER_01: Yeah, for sure.
- 30:14SPEAKER_01: Yeah, no, I know that face you're talking about, that Chris Norton face.
- 30:18SPEAKER_01: Get all the time.
- 30:19SPEAKER_01: Uh but no, is it's cool ending, and I love it's got that that big and talking we talked about patience, right?
- 30:27SPEAKER_01: You've got a big 32 count transition, right?
- 30:31SPEAKER_01: One move, 32 counts, and we are, as long as I remember, even with Dr.
- 30:35SPEAKER_01: Bartner, but we're very much like a 16 count ensemble.
- 30:39SPEAKER_01: Even even if it's it ends up being really the same thing, but just the idea of just this long form arching.
- 30:45SPEAKER_01: So you're teaching them, you're telling them to be patient, but you know, the benefit, you know, as a drill designer, obviously I think it's maybe it benefits you a little bit because it gives you a chance to breathe and not have to do a subset, right?
- 30:55SPEAKER_01: A little bit less creativity.
- 30:57SPEAKER_01: And then I think for us culturally, it's getting the students to realize like, hey, I go from here to here in that many counts, like just relax, just chill.
- 31:05SPEAKER_01: Enjoy the moment, enjoy the moment, get after it.
- 31:07SPEAKER_01: Um, but you also put something in there, you put a big fat mark time in that drill.
- 31:13SPEAKER_01: And I love it.
- 31:14SPEAKER_00: All that was all that was for time.
- 31:16SPEAKER_00: It's yeah, I'm thinking about we're gonna learn this on Thursday.
- 31:20SPEAKER_00: How can I again efficiency is always about efficiency.
- 31:25SPEAKER_00: Um, sometimes I efficiency ends up countering my my intuition or my my creativity.
- 31:31SPEAKER_00: Um, but it's still creativity and figuring out that mathematic problem there.
- 31:34SPEAKER_00: But um it was gonna be Thursday, and I wanted the students to be successful at what they were doing.
- 31:40SPEAKER_00: And so it is uncommon, but we're gonna drop a mark time.
- 31:43SPEAKER_00: So what could have been four moves are turned into three um by adding the mark time.
- 31:48SPEAKER_01: Yeah, and the mark time yeah, turned into three, and then same thing at the end.
- 31:51SPEAKER_01: That big 32 count move, what would have been three moves became two, uh, and really focuses in.
- 31:58SPEAKER_01: This hat, it's a hat and it says Bruno.
- 32:01SPEAKER_01: This I think this has been my favorite set of the year so far.
- 32:03SPEAKER_01: This was this was super cool.
- 32:05SPEAKER_01: And it read, I thought it read really nicely on the field, and they caught it on the camera.
- 32:12SPEAKER_00: That's always the best part when it gets caught on camera.
- 32:14SPEAKER_00: This comes from a breakdown of one of his logos in his tenure.
- 32:18SPEAKER_00: Uh, it really has the hat in the Bruno Mars, but I mean, the double stacking of the words is not necessary.
- 32:24SPEAKER_00: Um, so kind of just breaking that apart.
- 32:28SPEAKER_00: And I've done this set in the past, but you know, as an arranger, you know, sometimes you can do it, but you bring it back and you're like, what the and then you come back and you do the editing.
- 32:37SPEAKER_00: Hence on the rehearsal, I kind of left the letters in true type form as he had it.
- 32:42SPEAKER_00: And then after putting it on the field, I was like, this is not gonna work.
- 32:47SPEAKER_00: And so that's why we made those corrections on Saturday.
- 32:50SPEAKER_00: Um and this is why Ultimate Drill Book is it's heaven for marching bands.
- 32:55SPEAKER_00: You know, you don't have to reprint the coordinates or you don't have to move every individual person.
- 32:58SPEAKER_00: You can just say hit refresh, set that new dot, and Yahtzee, we as you would say, Yachty, we're on to the next thing.
- 33:05SPEAKER_01: So it was Yeah.
- 33:06SPEAKER_01: Hey Josh and Luke Gall, come on, come on on the show.
- 33:08SPEAKER_01: Let's talk UDB, huh?
- 33:10SPEAKER_01: Let's uh let's let's let's hype you up.
- 33:13SPEAKER_01: Um maybe work out, maybe we'll work out a uh sponsorship deal.
- 33:17SPEAKER_01: How's that sound?
- 33:17SPEAKER_01: Let's work them on that angle, yeah.
- 33:19SPEAKER_01: But a great um really cool set um at the end.
- 33:23SPEAKER_01: And I'm always I I think the tricky thing, uh and you can you can tell me that it's always the bass drums and the tubas are always kind of like it's it's tough with these pictures because they themselves bring a lot of visual whatever it is to what's going on.
- 33:37SPEAKER_01: I know this is something we struggled with uh uh years ago.
- 33:40SPEAKER_01: We were doing a big Kermit the frog, and so we were trying to use the tubas and bass drums for his eyes, and it just it was not working.
- 33:47SPEAKER_01: So we ended up uh reintegrating them into the head, and we bought, we did like the Ohio State mission, we bought tarps in Drew and made uh Kermit eyes, which ended up reading really well, but that was still kind of the I was like, What do you do with him?
- 34:00SPEAKER_01: But this this I'm I've got it on the screen right now, just the tubas and it's integrated so it reads so well with the pictures.
- 34:06SPEAKER_00: So kudos to you, congrats to you on on solving that kind of tricky making sure those quads, those quads are like trying to fit an airplane inside of something.
- 34:14SPEAKER_00: It's just this 747 doesn't fit well in curves, and so you have to just make sure they're placed properly, but then you also have to counter where are they, where's the sound, who are they near, who brought part of it?
- 34:26SPEAKER_00: Like it just so much goes into putting pictures.
- 34:29SPEAKER_00: People think it's simple, but the placement and staging is a pain in the in the side with uh placement and and picture drills.
- 34:36SPEAKER_01: And I've seen, I know we've done it in the past, and I've seen other groups where they'll just they'll take the tubas and drums and just put them somewhere else.
- 34:44SPEAKER_01: Like, all right, we've got we've got a beautiful airplane, and then there's a sun, or there's just there's there's a cloud shaped like a square over there with you all just not moving.
- 34:54SPEAKER_01: Uh, but pretty cool.
- 34:55SPEAKER_01: I'm gonna I'm gonna run down just for for kicks.
- 34:59SPEAKER_01: Um, I'm gonna see this, see some of this drill.
- 35:02SPEAKER_01: So let's let's run this bad boy down.
- 35:04SPEAKER_01: I'm rewinding.
- 35:05SPEAKER_01: Here we go.
- 36:22SPEAKER_01: The music is going long, and so it's the music's going long, and then you got to achieve you've got the saxes just driving up the front.
- 36:28SPEAKER_01: Um, and again, it's it you you get a better sense because the brass is backfield, but yes, this great woodwind sound just soaring out of the sides of the band on that cool melody.
- 36:38SPEAKER_01: And here we go.
- 36:39SPEAKER_01: We're getting ourselves into Bruno.
- 36:49SPEAKER_01: Great stuff, great stuff.
- 36:51SPEAKER_01: Round of applause, round of applause for everybody.
- 36:54SPEAKER_01: Um, I'll talk.
- 36:55SPEAKER_01: So in this arrangement, one thing I had Kobe do, um, which I don't I don't really do this a lot.
- 37:02SPEAKER_01: It's risky, but you know, in a lot of these pop songs, you'll get high harmony over an over a melody, right?
- 37:08SPEAKER_01: And um, whenever you get that that high harmony over a melody, um, I know there's a struggle, and I tell young arrangers, it's like you can't just put the harmony in the first trumpet because that that becomes the melody.
- 37:21SPEAKER_01: That's what everybody hears, right?
- 37:22SPEAKER_01: They're just too powerful, they're too strong.
- 37:24SPEAKER_01: Um and so in doing um in in trying to capture that feeling, like there's sometimes an opportunity to put the woodwinds in the melophones higher than the trumpets, a little voice crossing, as they say, yeah.
- 37:40SPEAKER_01: And so in that bridge during that mark time, there was that great opportunity and it worked out, and the band really succeeded.
- 37:46SPEAKER_01: The trumpets were really able to hammer the melody hard enough so that the horns could kind of come over the top and give that kind of cooler temperature texture.
- 37:54SPEAKER_01: Um, which by golly, they did it.
- 37:56SPEAKER_01: We did it, it worked.
- 37:59SPEAKER_00: It all came out nice, man.
- 38:00SPEAKER_00: And you know, for anybody who's out there listening, like marching bands, it's very rare you're gonna get a perfect show because these things are fast turnaround.
- 38:08SPEAKER_00: We're not spending months and months on this these shows.
- 38:11SPEAKER_00: We're spending literally maybe eight hours putting these things together sometimes.
- 38:15SPEAKER_00: And you know, you get what you take, and we just prepare the students to be successful.
- 38:19SPEAKER_00: And week in and week out, they're getting better because we intend we're gonna ramp up, we're gonna get more pictures, we're gonna get more abstract forms, like a lot of stuff is gonna start coming at them that is not so simple, you know, um to set.
- 38:31SPEAKER_00: And so we're kind of just strategically putting it into place, but you know, they're they're they're achieving well.
- 38:37SPEAKER_00: Um I'm really excited to see where the season ends.
- 38:40SPEAKER_00: Like that's the pretty the best part about it.
- 38:42SPEAKER_01: Yeah, and um yeah, to say that I think there's you know, what what's that that Japanese art form where you know you crack a vase and then you refill it with gold so that you see the imperfections, right?
- 38:54SPEAKER_01: And you learn from them and you you strive for it.
- 38:56SPEAKER_01: And it's right, it's true.
- 38:58SPEAKER_01: I'm I'm I'm a big proponent of that.
- 39:00SPEAKER_01: There's a lot to this program other than, you know, the notes, the X's and O's and all of that.
- 39:05SPEAKER_01: And I know it it's that weird dichotomy, right?
- 39:08SPEAKER_01: The students, us as the designers, we put a lot of pride in what it is that we're doing for what is 10 minutes of a day.
- 39:16SPEAKER_01: And I would argue, especially for this particular game, that those 10 minutes were not as important as those 10 or 15 minutes where we were we were marching back up on Oregon and all of that, you know what I mean?
- 39:28SPEAKER_01: And so it's like you kind of you kind of have to like have that.
- 39:32SPEAKER_01: Yes, you want it to be really good.
- 39:33SPEAKER_01: That's the highlight of the day.
- 39:35SPEAKER_01: But there are so many other moments that honestly can be definitive for somebody.
- 39:39SPEAKER_01: You know, it's like my wife says, like she wanted to join the band because she saw it, she saw them on Truesdale.
- 39:46SPEAKER_01: It wasn't a halftime show, it wasn't pregame, it was she's there, the band comes marching by, she sees the saxophones play right in front of her, and she, that's it, that's what I want to do.
- 39:55SPEAKER_01: And so um, there's a lot to it, but I I will say this show a I give this show an A.
- 39:59SPEAKER_01: It was great.
- 40:00SPEAKER_01: Top the students did a really good job.
- 40:02SPEAKER_01: They locked in, they got it done, and uh it was fantastic.
- 40:06SPEAKER_01: It was a it was a fun, a fun two-week show finally.
- 40:08SPEAKER_01: We got some time to spend on it.
- 40:11SPEAKER_01: Two weeks, even though one of those weeks we had uh what two rehearsals, right?
- 40:14SPEAKER_01: Right, so anyway.
- 40:16SPEAKER_01: Um, but cool, a lot of fun.
- 40:18SPEAKER_01: Um, all right.
- 40:19SPEAKER_01: So let's let's get to our B topic for today.
- 40:21SPEAKER_01: Let's bring KC and Brett back.
- 40:23SPEAKER_01: So, Brett, what did uh what did we want to talk about this week?
- 40:26SPEAKER_01: What's our fun in games?
- 40:28SPEAKER_04: I believe you chose uh what sports do you like to watch uh in person and on T on TV, I think is what we were doing.
- 40:37SPEAKER_01: Okay, well, Dante and I have been talking a while, so let's have one of you two go first, huh?
- 40:43SPEAKER_04: Kenneth, kick us off.
- 40:46SPEAKER_06: No, please, after you.
- 40:50SPEAKER_04: Um Okay, so uh my favorite the uh the caveat is these are all this is all counting, not USC sports.
- 41:00SPEAKER_04: So well, of course.
- 41:01SPEAKER_01: Any any USC sport is like yeah, that's our favorite.
- 41:04SPEAKER_04: Correct.
- 41:05SPEAKER_01: Like if someone's like, hey, uh do you want to go to the Dodgers World Series or do you want to see, you know, women's volleyball win a national championship?
- 41:13SPEAKER_01: Like I'm gonna go to women's volleyball at USC.
- 41:15SPEAKER_01: You know what I mean?
- 41:16SPEAKER_01: It's not that true.
- 41:17SPEAKER_01: It has nothing to do with me not being able to afford World Series tickets.
- 41:20SPEAKER_01: That's not that's not what I'm saying.
- 41:21SPEAKER_01: What I'm saying is USC sports.
- 41:23SPEAKER_01: But yeah, go go ahead.
- 41:24SPEAKER_01: Take it away, gentlemen.
- 41:26SPEAKER_04: And also not counting that you don't particularly like uh baseball, right?
- 41:30SPEAKER_01: What are you talking about?
- 41:33SPEAKER_01: What are you trying are you trying to are you trying to get me what are you doing to me?
- 41:38SPEAKER_01: What is this?
- 41:41SPEAKER_01: First of all, how dare you?
- 41:42SPEAKER_01: Second of all, d you know what?
- 41:45SPEAKER_01: I'm removing your sticker.
- 41:46SPEAKER_01: I'm so upset.
- 41:46SPEAKER_01: You're you're you're cut.
- 41:48SPEAKER_06: You're cut from You're thinking of Brett, you're thinking of me in basketball, but you're burying the lead because we gotta do you first before we can get to me.
- 41:55SPEAKER_01: Go ahead, Brett.
- 41:56SPEAKER_01: I brought your sticker back.
- 41:57SPEAKER_01: You're bet you're out of timeout.
- 41:59SPEAKER_04: Uh my favorite uh sport to watch in person is uh minor league baseball, I think.
- 42:07SPEAKER_04: Um I think you know about this.
- 42:10SPEAKER_04: Um but I enjoy I've I in the summers I've gone on week week-long trips or longer going just going to minor league baseball games, and half of it is just the experience of getting to the games and going to different places and seeing different traditions and different places.
- 42:28SPEAKER_04: I've gone to uh 48 of the 50 states really on these minor league trips, and so that's a lot of fun for me just to just to travel and and it's such a great atmosphere, you know, five bucks you're sitting over the dugout.
- 42:40SPEAKER_04: Um favorite uh sport to watch on TV, I would have to say uh March Madness.
- 42:49SPEAKER_04: Watching uh, you know, especially the first two days are the two greatest two days in sports.
- 42:54SPEAKER_04: You've got sixte games going on.
- 42:57SPEAKER_04: Uh it's just amazing.
- 43:00SPEAKER_04: I I'm sorry, is it 32 or 16?
- 43:02SPEAKER_04: Anyway, it's a lot of games.
- 43:04SPEAKER_04: You're the fan, you tell me.
- 43:06SPEAKER_04: Well, let's see, 64 games.
- 43:07SPEAKER_04: There's 64 teams, you play 32 games in the first round, but yeah, split between two days, so 16.
- 43:13SPEAKER_04: Um it I mean, there's just basketball on all day, and it's nothing better than that.
- 43:20SPEAKER_01: That's great.
- 43:20SPEAKER_01: That sounds like a lot of fun.
- 43:22SPEAKER_01: Uh let's we'll we'll do a crissy crossy.
- 43:24SPEAKER_01: Dante, how about you?
- 43:26SPEAKER_00: Um in person?
- 43:32SPEAKER_00: I would say football.
- 43:34SPEAKER_00: Um I'm just kind of torn just because when we're in it so much, it's heavy contact can kind of get a little bit taxing on the brain.
- 43:43SPEAKER_00: Um but uh right now on TV, at least right now, I'm enjoying women's uh professional basketball.
- 43:51SPEAKER_00: Like it's pretty like to see something that has been kind of behind the curtain to come to the fore even more from the the TV contracts.
- 44:00SPEAKER_00: I have more access to it.
- 44:01SPEAKER_00: Um, it's pretty fabulous to watch.
- 44:04SPEAKER_00: Like I watched all four games yesterday.
- 44:06SPEAKER_00: Oh, nice.
- 44:07SPEAKER_00: Um yeah, the playoffs started and it was just it was spectacular.
- 44:11SPEAKER_00: Um TV, I'll probably watch some baseball.
- 44:14SPEAKER_00: Like, cause it's just watching baseball in person sometimes can be a little drawn out if it goes long.
- 44:23SPEAKER_00: But baseball, it's for whatever reason through the tube.
- 44:25SPEAKER_00: It when it happens, it's like it's kind of cool.
- 44:28SPEAKER_00: Um the next experience I'm trying to do is go to Cosm and watch the sports, like immersive sports.
- 44:36SPEAKER_00: Yeah, so I'm looking forward to trying that experience.
- 44:39SPEAKER_01: Yeah, that'll be maybe I should try that.
- 44:41SPEAKER_01: Although it might be sensory overload.
- 44:43SPEAKER_01: I might have a, you know, I might lose my mind in there and never and never recover.
- 44:49SPEAKER_01: Uh yeah, that's that's rad.
- 44:51SPEAKER_01: That's really cool.
- 44:52SPEAKER_01: Um yeah, baseball, especially now with the um the pitch clock they got going on now.
- 44:58SPEAKER_01: It just seems like it really is is tightened up sort of the timing of it on TV, especially.
- 45:04SPEAKER_00: Yeah, I definitely it's it's just baseball's cool.
- 45:07SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
- 45:07SPEAKER_00: Just laid back, laid back sport, and when it happens, it's pretty intense.
- 45:11SPEAKER_01: Yeah, for sure.
- 45:12SPEAKER_01: All right, C, how about you?
- 45:16SPEAKER_06: So, you know, I gotta throw a curve ball.
- 45:18SPEAKER_06: So I'm not a Can you throw a curve?
- 45:20SPEAKER_01: How is your curve?
- 45:21SPEAKER_06: Outside, oh, it's terrible.
- 45:22SPEAKER_06: That's uh as I'm about to say, uh outside of USC athletics, I am not a big sports guy.
- 45:29SPEAKER_06: Right?
- 45:30SPEAKER_06: I would much rather be doing a whole lot of other stuff.
- 45:33SPEAKER_01: Uh I should case I Casey, I gotta stop being so mean to you.
- 45:39SPEAKER_01: It's just it's fun.
- 45:40SPEAKER_06: People people are gonna think you don't like me.
- 45:42SPEAKER_01: I know.
- 45:43SPEAKER_01: I but I do, I love you.
- 45:44SPEAKER_01: That's the thing.
- 45:45SPEAKER_01: I might I might love you the most.
- 45:48SPEAKER_06: So I I I'm gonna take it back to classical music, honest.
- 45:53SPEAKER_06: Uh, you for those of you that are listening at home, there was a big shift in opera uh that happened around about the time that Wagner wrote The Ring Cycle.
- 46:06SPEAKER_06: And it was we we when we went from Baroque opera to romantic opera, as any student of music history will know, uh the the layout of the opera house changed.
- 46:17SPEAKER_06: In Baroque opera, the boxes were stacked vertically on top of each other, and there was a big flat ground.
- 46:25SPEAKER_06: So there were two tiers of coming to the opera.
- 46:28SPEAKER_06: You were either an aristocrat in one of the vertical stack boxes or you were a groundling on the ground.
- 46:34SPEAKER_06: Uh, and the point of going to opera was not to watch the opera.
- 46:38SPEAKER_06: It was to be seen at the opera, and the lights were on full blast, and there were vendors walking around hawking their wares on the floor in the middle of the show.
- 46:49SPEAKER_06: Uh, obviously, when we went to stadium seating, uh and when we get into romantic opera, then the point of going to the opera became to watch the show on stage.
- 46:59SPEAKER_06: So, all of that to say, I prefer in-person baseball, not because I like watching the game of baseball particularly a lot, but because I like being at the game with my friends, which is the the criteria that I need in order to enjoy myself at a ballpark.
- 47:17SPEAKER_06: Uh, watch on TV.
- 47:19SPEAKER_01: Casey, can I compliment what a journey you took us on?
- 47:22SPEAKER_06: Was that a great segue?
- 47:23SPEAKER_01: Good gravy.
- 47:24SPEAKER_01: Like I'm sitting there, like, I'm I'm picturing first, I'm picturing you in like old-timey renaissance attire, like ordering a hot dog at an opera.
- 47:34SPEAKER_01: That's what I'm picturing.
- 47:36SPEAKER_01: Is that the picture you're trying to paint for me, Casey?
- 47:38SPEAKER_06: Sure.
- 47:39SPEAKER_06: Absolutely.
- 47:40SPEAKER_04: You know what the worst part about these stickers on the screen is?
- 47:43SPEAKER_04: What's that?
- 47:44SPEAKER_04: You can't see it rolling its eyes.
- 47:46SPEAKER_01: Oh, I can.
- 47:48SPEAKER_01: If if that sticker rolled its eyes any harder, it would just it would peel right off the off the pixels.
- 47:54SPEAKER_01: Um, Casey, that was what a beautiful I love it.
- 47:58SPEAKER_01: I you put so much thought and care.
- 48:00SPEAKER_01: Congratulations.
- 48:01SPEAKER_06: Thank thank you, thank you.
- 48:02SPEAKER_06: On television, real quick, uh, you don't come for me in the comments.
- 48:07SPEAKER_06: Golf.
- 48:08SPEAKER_06: Uh on television, enjoy watching golf because, again, not because of the game of golf, uh, because of my very fond memories of sitting with my grandmother watching golf with her when I was a child.
- 48:22SPEAKER_01: That you know what?
- 48:24SPEAKER_01: I was not gonna think you were gonna say grandmother.
- 48:27SPEAKER_01: That's cool.
- 48:29SPEAKER_06: She was huge, she was big golf, big golf lady.
- 48:32SPEAKER_01: That's big golf lady.
- 48:33SPEAKER_06: She played she played golf as long as she could before she couldn't play golf anymore.
- 48:37SPEAKER_01: Wow.
- 48:37SPEAKER_01: That's that's spectacular.
- 48:39SPEAKER_01: All right.
- 48:40SPEAKER_01: Um well now I'm gonna take my vengeance against Brett.
- 48:43SPEAKER_01: So watching sports live, um, it cut I have two two options, and um um the real answer is gonna be minor league baseball.
- 48:54SPEAKER_01: I agree.
- 48:54SPEAKER_01: I love a great minor league baseball game.
- 48:57SPEAKER_01: I lose I I can't control myself, I heckle the other team, I start talking trash.
- 49:02SPEAKER_01: I try to volunteer to do as much in the stadium as I can.
- 49:05SPEAKER_01: I've sang um at at Fifth Third Stadium in Grand Rapids, Michigan.
- 49:09SPEAKER_01: I sang Take Me Out to the Ball Game with my friends on top of the dugout.
- 49:13SPEAKER_01: I love it.
- 49:14SPEAKER_01: So, so Brett, you and I have that in common, huh?
- 49:17SPEAKER_04: We do.
- 49:18SPEAKER_04: We've actually been to one together.
- 49:19SPEAKER_01: We have been.
- 49:20SPEAKER_01: And at that game, we were at the uh we're at ranch, it was the Quakes, right?
- 49:24SPEAKER_04: The Quakes, yeah.
- 49:25SPEAKER_01: At the Quakes, and man, I got into it with the first baseman of the other team.
- 49:29SPEAKER_01: Uh because they were we had we were first, we're right there, and they're warming up, like you know, between the innings, just tossing the ball around, and their second baseman whiffed it, and the first baseman missed the ball and it hit the chair like full gas, like right next to Errolyn.
- 49:44SPEAKER_01: And um, and like none of we weren't paying attention because it's between the inning, like we didn't think getting hit by a ball was a risk now.
- 49:51SPEAKER_01: But man, I I was giving this guy the business.
- 49:53SPEAKER_01: I was like, where'd you learn the catch?
- 49:55SPEAKER_01: And you almost killed me.
- 49:56SPEAKER_01: They should send you back to it.
- 49:58SPEAKER_01: Like, I just I don't know.
- 49:59SPEAKER_01: It was a lot of fun.
- 50:00SPEAKER_01: I had a grand old time.
- 50:01SPEAKER_01: Uh, but the second place for watching sports live, and I've only done it once, and the reason it doesn't win is because I don't think I'm ever gonna get to do it again, um, is golf.
- 50:10SPEAKER_01: Is I went to um down in Newport, went with my father-in-law.
- 50:15SPEAKER_01: It was the um, what is it, the senior league, right?
- 50:18SPEAKER_01: The 50 and up league.
- 50:19SPEAKER_01: Um what did they call it?
- 50:21SPEAKER_01: I can't remember what that's called now.
- 50:22SPEAKER_01: I'm brain farting on it.
- 50:24SPEAKER_01: Do you know what it's called, anybody?
- 50:25SPEAKER_01: It's just it's it's there, but um, you know, it's like John Daly.
- 50:28SPEAKER_01: It's like golfers of that ilk, right?
- 50:31SPEAKER_01: But um, we had access to a box at the 18th hole.
- 50:34SPEAKER_01: So it's like we could go there, we could get snacks and watch the action at hole 18.
- 50:39SPEAKER_01: But then what's cool is like you can go, like you can decide to just like go to a hole.
- 50:44SPEAKER_01: And like, so we watched hole 10 for a while.
- 50:47SPEAKER_01: I don't know why.
- 50:48SPEAKER_01: And then there was one guy that we really liked, so we just followed him around.
- 50:52SPEAKER_01: So it's like you have all these options when you're watching golf live because you don't, you're not even if you're there on a GA ticket, you're not strapped into a chair, right?
- 51:00SPEAKER_01: You can kind of go around and see a lot of different things going on.
- 51:04SPEAKER_01: Um, and there's like a there's I think it's the slow pace of it, it's like the breaks and the action is probably what I enjoy.
- 51:10SPEAKER_01: Because like to your point, Dante, when we're in it with call, it's like every every minute, it's just constant bang, bang, bang, bang.
- 51:17SPEAKER_01: Um, and it's fun to be there and watch it and be in it.
- 51:19SPEAKER_01: But I think then if I'm a fan, I like something with a little more cool down on it.
- 51:24SPEAKER_01: Um, sports on TV, um, it's it's college football.
- 51:29SPEAKER_01: I love watching college football on TV.
- 51:31SPEAKER_01: Um, or I'll NFL too, I think, is better on TV.
- 51:34SPEAKER_01: Um, I can't stand going to NFL Games Live.
- 51:37SPEAKER_01: Like it's like they're too good.
- 51:38SPEAKER_01: It's just it's not very exciting.
- 51:40SPEAKER_01: There's no, and I think it's because there's no band.
- 51:42SPEAKER_01: There's no band, there's no like interviewing a fan for a chance to win an in and out, you know, um gift certificate that doesn't ring my chimes at all in between the plays.
- 51:52SPEAKER_01: Um but um obviously going and performing is a lot of fun at you know when we go to the Rams or the Chargers.
- 51:58SPEAKER_01: But anytime I've just on my own, completely disassociated, gone to an NFL game, I haven't had as much fun as college games, but yeah, going to watching college football on TV, I think I think that's it for me.
- 52:08SPEAKER_01: Um that does it.
- 52:09SPEAKER_01: So yeah, that was fun.
- 52:11SPEAKER_01: Good topic, Brett.
- 52:12SPEAKER_01: Good choice.
- 52:14SPEAKER_04: You you chose it.
- 52:16SPEAKER_01: I don't know.
- 52:18SPEAKER_01: I recommended it, but you you said I signed off.
- 52:22SPEAKER_04: Yes.
- 52:23SPEAKER_01: Yeah, I mean you're the you're the producer.
- 52:25SPEAKER_04: That's true.
- 52:26SPEAKER_01: You're the producer.
- 52:26SPEAKER_04: And as producer, I feel like we should uh wrap this one up.
- 52:30SPEAKER_01: Why?
- 52:30SPEAKER_01: What do you mean?
- 52:31SPEAKER_01: We got four minutes.
- 52:32SPEAKER_01: We got four minutes left.
- 52:33SPEAKER_01: Well, and we had some technical difficulties that you're gonna edit out.
- 52:36SPEAKER_01: We we're good.
- 52:36SPEAKER_01: We're right, we're right in the pocket.
- 52:38SPEAKER_01: Uh, but thanks everybody for tuning in, chiming in this week.
- 52:41SPEAKER_01: We're back at uh TM banter once again.
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- 52:47SPEAKER_01: Uh, if you could really get after us on YouTube, we get more ad revenue on YouTube.
- 52:51SPEAKER_01: Is that correct, Brett?
- 52:52SPEAKER_04: That's correct.
- 52:53SPEAKER_01: That's right.
- 52:54SPEAKER_01: So just, you know, just play it.
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- 53:15SPEAKER_01: Go ahead and um add us in the socials.
- 53:17SPEAKER_01: What B-side topic would you like for us to talk about in our next episode?
- 53:21SPEAKER_01: What do you want to hear about?
- 53:22SPEAKER_01: What do you want us to ramble on and offer our opinions on uh out there in the world?
- 53:27SPEAKER_01: Is it is it movies?
- 53:28SPEAKER_01: Is it books?
- 53:29SPEAKER_01: Do you want to know what we're reading?
- 53:30SPEAKER_01: Spoiler alert, I don't read.
- 53:32SPEAKER_01: So we'll have to see what I can come up with there.
- 53:36SPEAKER_01: Uh, but that might be a lot of fun.
- 53:37SPEAKER_01: Let us know what you want us to talk about.
- 53:39SPEAKER_01: As always, I'm Jake.
- 53:40SPEAKER_01: We've got Dante, Casey, and Brett.
- 53:42SPEAKER_01: It's been a pleasure, everybody.
- 53:44SPEAKER_01: Bye on.