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Are the CHIEFS back or still OVERRATED after beating the COLTS? · NY's Sports Loud Mouth (VIDEO)

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They're going to have a ton of money to spend.
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Why not put it in one of the top three offensive players in the
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league? We're going to be looking at
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Aaron George and saying that he can't win the big game, Michael
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Jordan said. I played 82 games.
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You don't see the fun going down a game where you got to go
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before I told you, Giant and Saquon Barkley, at this
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I hope everybody enjoys the time with their family.
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www.worldwidesportsradio.com. If you don't know who I am, well
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My name is Errol Marx. My Co host very soon will be
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joining us, Jabba Chamberlain, Mr. Flamethrower himself.
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He's right now taking some taking care of some family
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stuff. You just heard Mr. Aaron Fish
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Fisherman, our executive producer on the board, Mr. Tommy
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Poops, who's scooping up the poops And then the one and only,
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the one and only. I said it maybe once or twice
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already. Mr. Speedy PD is the Co host,
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producer, pin in the ass confidant of my own.
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But yeah, it's been a crazy, crazy week.
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I've been dealing with my own situations and it's been one of
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those days today that I just don't want to remember.
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I don't. I want to forget.
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I want to forget. Today was Monday.
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Let's move on to Wednesday as we have Thanksgiving.
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Even then Thanksgiving on Thursday and then Black Friday.
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If you're a shopaholic, it's the best time of the year to shop.
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Well, is it I? I don't want to go actually, I
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wouldn't mind going to the mall at 12 midnight.
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I mean that's pretty cool Hang out at the mall with all the
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people at midnight and one O clock, 2O clock in the morning
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as half of the people in the mall can't stand being there.
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Yeah, that's the perfect time, ladies and gentlemen to go to
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the mall when everybody can't stand the people.
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So if you enjoyed Black Friday or whatever you want to call it,
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Mr. Sale of the week or sale of the day or sale of the year.
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Well, I, I don't, that's another thing everybody keeps talking
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about Black Friday being the time to go and get all the
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deals. And honestly, are you really
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getting a deal? That's, that's my question for
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all you fans out there that have ever gone out for Black Friday,
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spend some time with your family shopping and getting ready for
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the holidays. Is that really a time where
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you're going to get the best deals?
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I, I, the honest truth is no. And anybody that knows anything
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about shopping and any fan out there that goes shopping
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religiously knows you're, are you really getting that much of
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A deal? Buy one, get the other one half
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off. When it comes to hats, they have
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that like every month at Lids. So are you really getting a
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deal? And then when you go to Express,
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you get 60% off and anything over, I think anything on the
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clearance rack, you're getting an extra 60% off of 50% or
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whatever it is, 50% already taken off of it.
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Is that really a deal? No, because that's all year
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round. So are you really getting a deal
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on Black Friday? And then if you've gone to Best
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Buy, Best Buy and you're looking for a television, yeah, there
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are TV's for sale, but are they major sales where you're going
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to say, wow, I'm getting some kind of deal, I'm getting $500
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off of television. When you look in the back end of
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it and you look at over the last two or three months when those
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televisions are already on sales sale, they're either 2 or $300
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on sale. What are you getting extra 100
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bucks on it? And usually if you don't go in
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early in the day when the stores open, because sometimes the
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malls open up midnight, I don't know how exactly it works
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anymore, but they do open up really, really early in the
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morning. Are you really going to get a
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deal if those those televisions aren't even there and you can't
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even buy them in the store? Yeah, you can special order it,
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saving 100 bucks. Is that like something that I'm
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going to be jumping for joy? I the answer would probably be
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no. So for all the fans out there
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thinking that they're getting a deal on Black Friday, I think
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you're wrongly being what would be the best way of presenting
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this Speedy? Facetious.
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I you you like using these words, I don't know, I think
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you're being wrongly. I guess misguided.
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Misguided. There you go there.
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See, that's what I've been looking for when it comes to
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Speedy. But Speedy doesn't know how to
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give you straight words. He gives you these paragraphs
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that kind of turn you off for even shopping.
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So I I wouldn't go shopping with Speedy because if I went
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shopping. I wouldn't go shopping at all
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anyway, so don't worry. No, you'll play board games,
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boring board games. Sit there playing board games
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all day and all night, right? That's what you would rather do,
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Sit in front of a board game? I would rather do like 50,000
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other things than shop on black. Friday.
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All right, give me give me 5 five things that you would like
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to do. Five things that I would rather
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do that than shop for Black Friday.
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One thing I would probably. Spit it out.
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OK, one thing I would probably walk outside for about 5 minutes
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and. Oh, so you would rather walk?
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Outside, they'll go shopping. Hold on.
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Makes sense in flip flops like you do.
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Like in your underwear during the winter?
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I do. Yes, I did it today.
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So that would be 1 #2. I would endure squeaking noise
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for about 10 minutes, which I hate.
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I hate squeaky noises. I've done it my whole life.
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Has anybody met a weirder person than speed?
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I'm trying to I'm just trying to tell you how extremely like
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against I would be shopping a black.
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Like squeaky like wheel speed any or like squeaky like you
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open a bag of chips. Or anything, well, not bag of
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chips, not bad, but pretty much anything that I've always just
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been sensitive to it I guess. I'm sensitive just listening to
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you. I mean, this is absolutely
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pathetic. I'd rather walk outside than go
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shopping. I'd rather listen to squeaky
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sounds than go shopping. Who brings this up in a
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conversation? I asked you for five things you
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would rather do, and you bring up those.
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In the most extreme examples of things I don't like, that still
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would probably top Black Friday and.
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What do you like, Speedy? Give me extreme things that you
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like. Extreme things, Yes.
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Yes, because you have all these stupid things that you don't
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like Yes, because there's a lot of things that a lot of things
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you like to play board games, you like to play boring board
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games, right? That's what you're on the.
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Beach. Nope, you're right.
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I'd much rather do that than Black Friday.
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This guy's a weirdo. I'm going to have to do it.
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I'm that's what's going to drag me out Friday.
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I'm going to have to go to Walmart and Target and all these
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places that I, I really don't want to go.
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Errol, I think there are deals, but I don't think they're that
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good that it's worth it to go through this.
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I would agree. I know I'm going to be tortured.
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I, I actually like shopping and I, anybody that knows me, I like
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to go clothing shopping and hats and, and I, I'm a big, you know,
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sneaker fan. I like to do those things, but
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when I'm around people and there are lines out the door and, and
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I'm dealing with these ladies arguing about the prices and,
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and the specific deals that they have.
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Oh well, it says there's 10 percent, 10% off on these
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scarves more than what the prices are.
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I, I, I mean, honestly, I'd stay the hell away from those stores.
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I am not one of those people that enjoy themselves when I
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have to deal with the people that are angry or have their own
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takes on specific things they're looking for and they can't get
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the deals on them. So I that's, that's the worst
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thing. I go to Best Buy every single
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year because I like the new contraction, the contraptions
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that they have out like the new, the new glasses, the Ray Ban
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glasses, the, the virtual reality glasses that they have
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out right now, the Meta threes and all that other stuff.
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And I, and I'm not a video game fan, but whenever I get a chance
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to go to these places, I'm playing the video games.
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I want to see what they have out.
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I'm not a fan and I'll, I'll repeat myself over and over and
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over again. I am not the a fan when the kids
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are running around at midnight or 1:00 in the morning and they
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should be sleeping where you would think I I could get away
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from people. I don't have to deal with the
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kids running around screaming Mommy, mommy, I want this mommy,
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mommy, I want that. No, I, you would think that the
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kids wouldn't be up. No, the parents at Walmart at
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midnight or whatever time they will, they open up.
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And I don't remember the last time I went to Walmart on Black
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Friday at midnight, but I remember over the years that
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Walmart would open up at like midnight.
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And, and these kids are, they're a bunch of kids running around
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and, and acting like animals. And that's something that I do
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not enjoy. So I, I like to stay far, far
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away from those specific things because I don't want to deal
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with the children and I don't want to deal with some of the
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old ladies that are crying about not getting the deals that say,
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you know what, what the, the signs say they're going to get,
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but they don't get them. So that is not what I call fun
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when it comes to going out shopping for Black Friday.
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But All in all it is a holiday and and I do want to go shopping
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for my family and my friends, so it's not all bad.
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On Sunday, the Kansas City Chiefs came back from a from
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down 20 to 9 in the fourth quarter to beat the Indianapolis
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Colts in an overtime 23 to 20. Despite not having a passing
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touch on, Mahomes had 352 passing yards, 141 of those
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yards to Rice and Hunt added 104 total yards and a touchdown.
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While defensively the Chiefs held the NFL leading rusher
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Taylor to 58 yards. Thank you to them because that
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absolutely hurts my team. Fantasy team.
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His second lowest total of the season.
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Stiken was questioned after the game for only giving Taylor one
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total touch in the fourth quarter as the Colts gave up the
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lead to three time Super Bowl champion.
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Jones threw for just 181 yards, his lowest total of the season.
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In the fourth quarter and overtime.
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The Chiefs ran 41 plays to the Colts 12 and had thirteen first
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downs and had 236 yards to the Colts having just 18 with no
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first downs at all. With a six in five record, the
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Chiefs now have a 66% playoff probability.
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If they lost it would have only been under 40%.
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So I guess if you're a Chief fan, you have more likely of a
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chance to make the playoffs in and I know the NFL wanted wants
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this Taylor Swift, obviously Travis Kelsey.
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This could be Travis Kelsey's final year for a Super Bowl run.
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And, and this is an old Chief's team they're going to be looking
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to reboot in the next two or three years, something that Andy
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Reid over the years have been very good at doing, adding
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players in the 4th and 5th in 6th rounds.
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Kareem Hunt, if I'm not mistaken, was 1/4 a third or
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fourth round draft pick. And, and they've done this year
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in and year out. I, I remember Tyree Kill was
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like a sixth round draft pick, a punt returner.
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They transition him into a wide receiver and became one of the
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more dangerous wide receivers in the league with the Kansas City
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Chiefs in such a short time. But the Chiefs are not a Super
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Bowl contending team this year. I've said this for the last
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three seasons now. Last year they went to the Super
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Bowl thanks to the referees. And I think a lot of the reasons
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why they won this game against Indianapolis was because of the
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referees. I, I'm not going to say that
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the, the Chiefs and Patrick Mahomes didn't have a great day.
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He didn't throw any touchdowns and, and, and again, he didn't,
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he wasn't one of those. He didn't have one of those
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games where you would think a quarterback, because he's an
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elite quarterback, having 5 or 6 touchdowns when you're throwing
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352 yards in a game. He didn't have one of those
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days. But Patrick Mahomes is as
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dangerous as any quarterback in the league because not only can
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he throw the ball, he can move outside of the pocket, escape
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search situations, especially against good defenses.
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And he did that as well as we've seen him do this season,
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especially in the third and fourth quarter.
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The Indianapolis Colts, I still think are the best team in the
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AFC right now, a 10 and 2 Patriot team.
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They have the best record in the AFC and they look like they're
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going to get the bye week. And they've been sensational.
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And their quarterback is right now an MVP candidate.
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Thank you, Mikey C, for giving us your take on that before the
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season started. I disagree.
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I think their schedule is one of the easiest in all of the NFL.
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Nevertheless, you play what's in front of you.
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And the Patriots are winning games and they've been
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sensational. And you go back to Kansas City,
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a lot of people thought 6 and 5 or even 5 and five.
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Are the Kansas City Chiefs ever out until they're completely
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out? Are they ever going to be
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eliminated? And with the NFL and the way the
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NFL works, they're never eliminated guys ever, because as
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long as there's referees in the game and they're getting calls
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go their way, which they did in the fourth quarter, really with
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the last five minutes of the game, you have calls that made
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you shake your head. The only call that I would say
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went against them was the Kelsey Kelsey call early in the game.
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Besides that, every single call went to Kansas City.
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And I think the NFL and you can doubt whatever you want to say
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and you're going to say it. You're going to tell me that I,
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I think the NFL is in cahoots with the Kansas City Chiefs.
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I, I just, I've always said this, the NFL wants their stars
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to be in the big game. And right now Patrick Mahomes is
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the biggest star, one of the top three biggest stars right now in
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the NFL. So of course they're going to do
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whatever they can to try to squeak the Kansas City Chiefs
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into the playoffs because with one game, and you only have to
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play one game in each round to get to that AFC title game, to
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get to that Super Bowl, It's not like you have to play
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three-game, best out of three or best out of four or best out of
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seven. It's not like that.
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It's one game and that's it. When you can have a bad day or
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the referees are not on your side, AKA the Kansas City
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Chiefs, as they always have them on their side and you can win
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the game and move on to the next round.
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And and that to me is why football is so wide open every
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single year. The Indianapolis Colts were one
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of the worst teams in the NFL last year, one of the worst.
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They add Daniel Jones. This is practically the really
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the same team. They added a tight end in the
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draft, they added some pieces, but this is practically the same
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team they had last year and they're completely different.
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And why are they completely different?
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Well, obviously the, the way their schedule is set up, some
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people would say their schedule was a little bit easier than
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last year. I I would beg to differ, but
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that's what some people would say.
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And Taylor's had a really good year.
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Jonathan Taylor has been the best running back in all of
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football. You can argue he's argue that
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he's been one of the best offensive weapons in football
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all season long, even though he didn't have such a great day
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against Kansas City on Sunday. To me, the Indianapolis Colts
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are as interesting as any team right now fighting to make the
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playoffs or even a Super Bowl contender.
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Why? Because with Daniel Jones at the
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helm and a lot of questions on the quarterback play.
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They drafted a quarterback in the first round a couple of
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years ago and now he's going to be look to.
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They'll be looking to trade him in the offseason and signed
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Daniel Jones to a long term deal.
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Daniel Jones has been as great of a story the NFL has seen in
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the last five years. And why?
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Because the Giants threw them away.
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They threw them away. And then he went to Minnesota
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for what, a couple of games last year?
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And then he became a free agent. Indianapolis brought him in to
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help Riley Leonard. That's really the truth.
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Riley Leonard, who in the offseason trained with Daniel
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Jones for for the last few few years, Riley Leonard's a Duke, a
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Duke player that eventually changed and went into the portal
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and went to Notre Dame and went to a national championship.
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They brought him in in the sixth round.
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They brought Daniel Jones because he's a a notable
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personality that he knows very, very well that can help him
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transition in the NFL. They're kind of the same player.
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I would say Daniel Jones is a has a better arm, but Riley
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Leonard and him his their style of game is very similar.
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Riley Leonard might never see the field ever for the
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Indianapolis Colts for the season that Daniel Jones has
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had. He won the job and he's just
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completely ran away with it all season long.
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He's probably going to win comeback player of the year.
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I don't think you can argue he's been the comeback player of the
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year. The Indianapolis Colts is one of
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the top three teams in the AFC and one of the favorites are
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coming out of the AFC this year and going against a Kansas City
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Chiefs team that where they're really dominating the game in
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the first half and then completely falling off in the in
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the second-half to a Kansas City Chiefs team that look and have
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looked old. Their defense has looked old.
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Spagnola Blake calling has looked as old as it's it hasn't
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been over the last couple years because if you look at Spagnola,
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he's one of the best defensive coordinators we've seen in the
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NFL in the last 20 years. He comes from that that hard
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nosed Eagles defense. He was obviously under many
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different coaches and and defensive coordinators from the
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Eagles organization before he took over for the Giants as the
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Giants defensive coordinator and then he went to obviously coach
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for. The the Rams, the Saint Louis
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Rams and then lost the job in a couple of years and has never
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gotten a coaching job since then.
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But he's been a successful defensive coordinator and some
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guys work very well as a as a coordinator and and others are
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not very good coaches. So I think he's been a
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successful defensive coordinator and the, and to me, the Kansas
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City Chiefs have had one of the best defense, one of the more
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underrated defenses in the league over the last, I would
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say 10 years and under spec Noel, I think it's been 8.
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He's been sensational and one of the reasons why I believe for I
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think 2 out of the three Super Bowls that they've won, I, I
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think he was the main reason why they're, they've won those Super
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Bowls because his defense and the way their defense plays and
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very aggressively last yesterday, I almost said last
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night, yesterday, I just believe the Kansas City.
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Chiefs were helped by the NFL. And I and I love Andy Reid.
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I want to see Andy Reid in the playoffs because he's one of the
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best play callers we've ever seen.
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You can argue that Andy Reid is one of the great and one of the
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best play callers we've ever seen in NFL history.
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And Spagnola is one of the best defensive play callers we've
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ever seen in NFL history. You got 2 coaches on a roster
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that have been very successful at what they do.
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And again you look at Kansas City, all Kansas City has to do
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is sneak into the playoffs. And when you look at those
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numbers, a 66% chance now to make the playoffs.
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Kansas City knows in any giving Sunday or any giving Saturday,
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they can pull off a win and move on.
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And all it takes is 1 bad play or one fumble or one mistake by
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another team, no matter how much better that team is or home
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field advantage they have, they can win and squeak right in to
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an AFC title game where they match up very well against
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Buffalo or one of these other teams that over the years
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they've matched up very well against.
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And again, I just don't understand.
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And I know everybody's jumping. I know I have a lot of Kansas
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City's Kansas City Chiefs fans that are friends of mine.
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And they, they reached out to me after the game and you said, oh,
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you said this was this game wasn't going to be even close.
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And when I said that, it wasn't really even close until the
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second-half of the game. And then everything started to
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go the Kansas City Chiefs way. And I will say this about the
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Indianapolis Colts. If they play this way, they're
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not going to last because you cannot give guys like Rice, who,
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by the way, had his best game back.
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That was probably his best game back since the suspension.
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Now he's looked good over the last two weeks, but again, he's
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still trying to get his feet under him.
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But you're seeing how dangerous this 1-2 punch they have with
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him, with him and, and, and Patrick Mahomes.
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And if, if Rice is playing at the top, at his top level and
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you get a Travis Kelsey that's open, he's not getting, he's not
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getting double teamed or he's moving in the seam of the the
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defenses and, and there's not many guys that can stop him in
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the open field. You're going to see that Travis
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Kelsey is going to get more touches, more looks and more
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opportunities to put the the ball in the end zone.
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And this has been the problem really over the last two seasons
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for the Kansas City Chiefs. Say whatever you want.
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The Kansas City Chiefs have been trying to figure out who their
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number one guy is. Rice has been up and down,
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healthy stupidity things on and off the field.
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He he doesn't, he hasn't played in a full season.
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When was the last time Rice played in a full season?
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Yeah, that's never been in his career.
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He's a third year receiver. He's suspended last year and are
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hurt last year then suspended this.
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Year so they really haven't had a #1 wide receiver since Tyree
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kill. So they're trying to find that
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guy, their go to guy. If Travis Kelsey is getting
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double teamed and last year slowly but surely at the tail
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end of the season and in the playoffs, he looked like he was
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getting old. He was right, right in front of
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her eyes. Travis Kelsey looked like he was
24:11
getting he was getting older with the last two or three games
24:13
of the season and then throughout the playoffs.
24:15
And now you have a legitimate number one guy like Rice that
24:19
can do so many things that they haven't had all season.
24:22
Now I, I, I like Hollywood Brown.
24:24
He's a good player. He's not a number 1.
24:27
He might be a number 2 on other teams right now.
24:30
He's the number two over there and Xavier worthy.
24:33
One of the most overrated first round picks, right?
24:36
He was the first round, picker second.
24:37
First round pick they made a big deal, the Bills trading with
24:39
them. That's right.
24:40
He everybody thought he was another Tyree kill with the
24:43
speed that he had and breaking records at the Combine and
24:46
everybody thought, oh, this guy is going to be some kind of
24:48
weapon. He really hasn't been that type
24:50
of player and he can't stay healthy.
24:52
So now you add a guy like Rice that opens up the field for a
24:55
Hollywood Brown and opens up the field for an Xavier Worthy or
25:00
Travis Kelce or even a running game, which they've had a lack,
25:03
a lack of all season long where everybody was telling them,
25:07
well, when are you going after a running back?
25:08
They had a chance to go go after Breece Hall and they decided,
25:11
you know what, we didn't want to give up a third round draft
25:13
pick. Could you imagine right now if
25:15
Breece Hall was the starting running back on this team with
25:18
Rice, Kelsey and the weapons that they have right now?
25:21
You're talking about IT team that's completely different
25:23
offensively. They were also in on each end
25:25
too, apparently, and but Miami wasn't trading him.
25:28
I, I don't know who they were in on.
25:30
I know, I know Bruce Hall was the guy that everybody said if
25:34
he was going anywhere, he was going to Kansas City.
25:36
But Kansas City was not willing to give up a third.
25:38
They offered a fourth. And so The Jets decided to hold
25:41
on to him. And I believe they're going to
25:42
hold on to him in the offseason as well as they'll franchise him
25:45
and decide what they're going to do with him with a contract or
25:48
either move him with, you know, a trade.
25:50
The fact here right now is the Chiefs are not the same Kansas
25:54
City Chiefs team they were. They're not even the Kansas City
25:58
Chiefs team they were last year there.
26:00
There's a lot of lack of, you know, parts of their defense
26:04
that you question. Their secondary is not as good
26:06
as it's been over the years. Last year, the secondary took a
26:10
hit because one of their guys that Sneed decided to go to free
26:14
agency and went elsewhere. But they were still a pretty
26:17
good secondary. This year they've went from one
26:20
of the top 10 secondaries in all of football to one of the in the
26:24
20s. I, I would say they're ranked 22
26:26
or 23 right now. I don't know exactly where they
26:28
are, but their, their secretary has not been good this year.
26:31
It's been a big problem of the defense and it's put pressure on
26:34
their front 7. And again, I'm looking at Kansas
26:38
City right now and you're looking at they do have an elite
26:42
quarterback. There's no question they do.
26:45
But if they're going to rest on Patrick Mahomes staying healthy
26:49
and expecting them to make another run for another NFL or
26:53
Super Bowl championship, they're sadly mistaken because they they
26:57
need everything needs to work on all everything's got to move on
27:01
all cylinders. And I think they've really in in
27:04
gear. They've only been in second and
27:05
third. They've really never hit that
27:07
4th or 5th gear. So I'm going to tell you this
27:09
right now, even though they beat Indianapolis and the Colts and,
27:13
and the Colts are one of the best teams in the NFC.
27:15
See, this year, I, I think it was given away by the cults
27:18
because the cults did not play defensively the way we expected
27:23
them to play in the second-half like they did in the first half.
27:25
And I do believe that the referees were making the calls
27:30
that were benefiting the Kansas City Chiefs.
27:32
Speedy. Yeah.
27:33
I definitely also believe like you look at the sense of urgency
27:35
that the Chiefs are needed to like we were saying before, like
27:38
the playoff probability would have fallen to 40%.
27:39
They don't have the tiebreaker on Jacksonville, which is
27:41
currently the last playoff spot in the AFC.
27:44
So it was really kind of a must win for them.
27:45
Plus they're at home. So like it's a must win.
27:47
They have to win at home. And the Colts, they kind of, I
27:50
wouldn't say they're comfortable in division Lee, but enough
27:52
where you were coming off a bye week, there probably was a sense
27:55
of adversity for them too. And the Chiefs, you're, you're
27:59
saying you're trying to find their way with their running
28:01
game. They're trying to find their way
28:02
with their secondary depth. Because I do think obviously
28:04
Mcduffie's still been a good corner.
28:05
Brian Cook's still been good at safety and their coverage
28:07
linebackers have actually been good this year.
28:09
But the secondary depth is not there.
28:11
The edge rushing depth is good, but not where it's been in the
28:14
years past. And Fish, I think you mentioned
28:16
it last week, the offensive line at the tackle position has
28:18
really been rough. Their interior might be the best
28:20
in the league, but their tackle position's been rough this year
28:23
and it's really affected Mahomes.
28:24
It's affected their running game at certain points and the
28:27
receivers, Mahomes actually, it's weird to think they
28:29
actually, Mahomes played better with their receivers hurt at the
28:32
beginning of the year that he's playing now outside of Rice.
28:35
And it's weird to think that maybe there was a little bit of
28:37
sense of. Adverse, but you see the
28:38
difference in the running game. Now that Rice is playing, it's
28:41
opening up. Seems you can see the difference
28:43
in the running game and now if Hunt and and, and Pacheco
28:48
actually have seems to run through, it could be a
28:51
completely different offense. The next 5 weeks could be a
28:54
completely different Kansas City Chiefs team.
28:56
They could go from 5:00 and 5:00 and they can win the next five
29:00
games and go 11 and five for the rest of the season.
29:02
Who would have thought a team that started as bad as the
29:05
Kansas City Chiefs and, and again going back, you keep
29:08
saying their secondary has been all right.
29:09
Mcduffie's the only secondary player that I can say that has
29:14
been half decent. They're not a very good second.
29:17
There's no question there's weaknesses in that secondary and
29:21
teams are they have exploited it all season long and.
29:24
The other thing too, I think is we've seen over the years when
29:27
the Chiefs have had bad run defenses on paper, 2019, a good
29:30
example of that. Their first Super Bowl year,
29:32
Spagnola's first year as a defensive coordinator.
29:34
On paper, I think they were the 24th run defense in the NFL.
29:37
But they still could key in when they need to game plan wise
29:40
against these top running backs too.
29:41
You look at two years ago in the AFC championship game against
29:43
the Ravens. Now, granted, the Ravens kind of
29:44
self-inflicted it on themselves too by not running the ball a
29:47
lot, but still, the Chiefs were able to hold their own when they
29:49
needed to. The Ravens obviously pan at the
29:51
next offseason go grab Derrick Henry because they couldn't run
29:53
the ball, but Lamar couldn't run the ball either and they were
29:55
fumbling a lot. So the Chiefs can hone in on
29:58
these key, these stars when they needed to.
29:59
Now, I mentioned that good teams can overcompensate for that when
30:03
C Spagnolo keys in on it like the Eagles did in the Super
30:05
Bowl. The Eagles, the Chiefs keyed in
30:07
on sake one, Jalen Hurts countered it with running
30:10
himself, and the Eagles are able to win.
30:12
Cincinnati's done that too with Jamar Chase, But the Colts are
30:14
not able to do that in this instance just because they have
30:16
a lot of good wide receivers, but really no stars.
30:18
And then Warren was shut down by those good linebackers.
30:21
So I think that's where the Colts have to really take that
30:23
next step. And the Chiefs, they're still
30:25
going to be there. But I agree with you, Errol,
30:26
they're not the Super Bowl contender yet.
30:28
And our friend Jason Dunn, shout out to even on his show, he was,
30:32
he was posting something about there's still a lot of flaws of
30:35
this team. They have a long way to go and
30:37
it is a wide open AFC because you have the Colts and the
30:39
Broncos and the Patriots at the top of the Colts.
30:41
Still some questions. The Broncos might be the best
30:42
team right now and the Patriots, like you said, cakewalk
30:45
schedule. So it might be one of those
30:47
years like you saw with the Bengals and the Rams, where 24
30:49
seeds make the Super Bowl or four seed makes the Super Bowl
30:51
at this point in the AFC. Biggest problem for this Chiefs
30:55
team is the guy that gave a whole lot of money.
30:58
His name is Chris Jones. Chris Jones is playing like a
31:02
league average defensive lineman this year.
31:05
He's ranked somewhere in the middle of the pack on PFF.
31:08
Good secondary sometimes looks bad because their D line is
31:12
trash and they're making them cover forever.
31:15
The Chiefs are actually rated by advanced analytics.
31:18
Like top ten in secondary play this year.
31:21
Surprising but it's because the D line is ranked second to last.
31:26
They have been such garbage rushing the passer without
31:30
bringing pressure. And that's the thing.
31:32
Spags would like to bring 4 from different angles, but if he's
31:35
forced to bring 5, there's going to be guys wide open.
31:39
And that's been happening because they can't get the
31:41
pressure because their three technique who they paid 20 plus
31:44
$1,000,000 a year to be that anchor for them is doing
31:48
nothing. He in fact, if we, I mean, we
31:51
called him out twice already this season early in the
31:53
seasons, either week one or two, speedy gave up contain.
31:56
I think it was Justin Herbert running and had that nice
31:59
baseball slide to win the game against them.
32:01
And then Trevor Lawrence falls down on a play for the
32:04
game-winning touchdown and Chris Jones just stops playing on that
32:08
play. And that's not even to mention
32:11
just he's getting beat and he's not that good during the game.
32:15
I mean, to me, that's the big issue for the Chiefs.
32:18
They they they're blocking a little bit bit, a little bit
32:21
better inside. Like you said, speedy Juwan
32:23
Taylor. I mean, the fact that guy gets
32:25
paid money to be a starter in the NFL is just unbelievable.
32:28
Their right tackle has been bad for a while.
32:30
I don't get it why he's still out there.
32:32
Simmons has been up and down with his health when he's been
32:34
in there, he's looked good, the rookie from Ohio State.
32:36
But that's been the thing with him.
32:37
That's why he dropped in the draft because of his health.
32:39
So it's really, we don't know what you're going to get with
32:42
the Chiefs, but you know with Andy Reid, Errol, they're going
32:45
to be in the game at the end. I know with Steve Spagnolo,
32:48
they're in the game at the end. I what bothers me and, and again
32:51
I, I didn't know where they were ranked in the secondary, but I
32:53
will say this, they give up almost 293 yards thrown in the
32:58
air every single game, which over the years the Chiefs have
33:01
been very good defensively especially and teams don't want
33:04
to throw against them. Now teams are more open to
33:07
throwing against them, especially on one side of the
33:09
field. And again, I, I will say this,
33:13
Jones has not been the same player.
33:15
There's their their front 7. Has it been the same defense
33:18
that over the years? But they still have George call
33:21
off this. I remember when he was drafted,
33:23
he was a late first round draft pick and everybody thought did
33:25
he play for Vanderbilt or Purdue?
33:28
He was a great pass rusher in college and he's really
33:31
transitioned as an NFL player. But I, I will say that the
33:35
Chiefs defense has been a shell of what they've been and, and
33:39
again, a problem for them and, and this is something that
33:42
they've been strong at and, and why they've won the Super Bowl.
33:46
I remember what was it 3 years ago when they won that Super
33:48
Bowl 2 years ago when they won their last Super Bowl, it wasn't
33:51
because of Patrick Mahomes in their offense.
33:53
It was because of their defense. The pressure that's Bagnola was
33:56
getting from the front 7 and the secondary help that they were
33:59
getting from Sneed and obviously Mcduffie.
34:02
I they don't have have that anymore.
34:04
So they have to depend more on the offensive side of the ball
34:07
going into the playoffs. If they make the playoffs this
34:09
year, which they seem to they probably are.
34:12
And it again, all it takes is Rice being at, you know, being
34:18
at 100% and taking off this year for the last five or six games
34:22
where it opens up opportunities for them to run the ball.
34:25
And if they can run the ball and be able to throw the ball and
34:28
open up seams for guys like Travis Kelski, who's been a
34:31
shell of himself. Well, this is a completely,
34:33
totally different offense and this is going to be a completely
34:35
different team. You don't have to depend on
34:38
anymore on the defensive side of the ball.
34:40
If you could get Patrick Mahomes to throw 300 and 5400 yards
34:44
every single game, and he's going to be they're going to be
34:47
able to run the ball at will because this offense is going to
34:51
have so many ways to beat you. Well, this is a different Kansas
34:54
City Chiefs team in the second-half of the season.
34:56
Yeah. And it's.
34:57
Interesting because it's going to turn into exactly what it was
34:59
kind of the end of the 22 season to where you really had to do a
35:02
game planning type scheme when it came to their past defense
35:06
that year. Because 2022 when they beat the
35:08
Eagles in the Super Bowl, their run defense actually was really
35:10
good and their past defense wasn't that good.
35:12
Then it kind of flip-flopped again in the year you mentioning
35:14
2023, they had even 7th overall past defense, but they were
35:17
suspect against the run and Spagnola was able to game plan
35:20
for that kind of thing. And it's kind of interesting
35:22
when Spagnola came in, they really were a makeshift defense.
35:24
They were a great defense for a while.
35:25
Those Alex Smith teams, they had our friend Tom Mahali, they had
35:28
Justin Houston, they had Jones at the beginning of his career.
35:31
And their defensive coordinator got fired after the Patriots
35:34
like put up 40 something on that AFC championship game.
35:36
And Spagnolo kind of reinvented it with a new defensive style
35:39
all together. And it's tough because, like
35:41
Fish was saying, Spagnola wants to blitz.
35:43
What is their defense ranked right now all together in the
35:46
NFL? Where are they ranked?
35:48
15th I believe. They're 15th right now all
35:50
together in the NFL with defense, front 7 and secondary.
35:54
And like you're saying that not much without the password.
35:57
I like where. Were they ranked last year?
35:58
Last year they were 12th. They again, they had very good,
36:02
very good pass defense at points during last year even without
36:05
Sneed there. The run defense was suspect, but
36:07
it was kind of they. Seem much better than 12th last
36:09
year than they are ranked. Right.
36:11
What it is, it wasn't like a stardom type defense last year.
36:14
You saw it was good at spurts, it was good what it needed to
36:17
be, but it really had some really bad lows too, especially
36:20
in some of those playoff games at the beginning of those
36:22
playoff games. So I think that's where it gets
36:24
a little shifted. And what I was saying was
36:26
Spagnola too. Spagnola likes to blitz but
36:28
can't blitz the linebackers as much because they been their
36:30
best coverage guys and kind of puts the corners as much because
36:33
their linebackers have to help. And that's where you've had
36:35
these voids at certain points of their secondary this year and
36:37
especially in their own defense with Jones not playing as well.
36:40
I if you're a Kansas City Chiefs fan, you're going to probably
36:44
wonder even if they sneak into the playoffs, if if this team
36:47
has enough to beat you in in the offensive side or the defensive
36:52
side. I will say this, if going back
36:55
to the Rice thing, if Rice is 100% and he is, he's all go with
37:01
this team in this offense, They could be very, very dangerous
37:05
offensively going into the playoffs.
37:07
And that means whoever they matched up with, wherever they
37:10
land, if they could still win their division, say whatever you
37:14
want. What is the Broncos record
37:15
Right? Now 9 and 2.
37:16
And and and. Chiefs are six and five so.
37:18
Who do the Broncos have left right now?
37:21
Everyone in their Division One more time.
37:23
So they have to play Kansas City one more time.
37:25
They have to play it one more time.
37:26
The Chiefs play everyone in their division, so that would
37:28
cancel out if they are somehow. Actually, the Chiefs would be
37:31
able to leapfrog them in terms of the division record too all.
37:33
Right. Real quick.
37:34
I just pulled it up, though. The Broncos have left for their
37:36
schedule at Washington, at Las Vegas, the Raiders at against
37:41
the Packers at home, Jaguars at home.
37:43
They go to reverse the Chiefs on Christmas Day at home or at
37:46
their place and then the Chargers at home.
37:48
They finish the season off. So at least two of those games
37:52
are wins. Las Vegas.
37:53
Oh win, the Commanders all win. So the other games, the
37:58
Chargers. Not so sure about that because
38:01
we'll see where the Chargers are at the tail end of the season.
38:04
If they're playoff contending team, we'll see how it all works
38:08
out the. Last four people that the
38:09
Broncos play are over 500 their records right now so.
38:13
Kansas City, I think that would be a very interesting game.
38:17
And where do they play? Kansas City 2nd to last game,
38:19
Third to last. 2nd to last game of the season.
38:21
They play them on Christmas Day at.
38:22
Kansas City So that could mean the division because to me, the
38:26
Broncos are going to win the division.
38:28
But the Broncos have been up and down all season long.
38:31
And you're going to say, well, wait a second, they're 9:00 and
38:33
2:00. There's a lot of games they
38:35
should not have won. They shouldn't have beaten The
38:37
Jets if The Jets didn't choke at the end of the game.
38:39
And Justin Fields can actually move from the 50 yard line to
38:44
the 45 where he had an open pretty much a free open run that
38:49
the Broncos gave him and he decided to stand back and run
38:52
backwards and, and, and obviously got sacked.
38:55
Maybe The Jets win that game. There were a couple of games,
38:58
the Broncos, Raiders. Game Thursday night, that was.
39:00
Ugly as hell. The Giants should have beaten
39:01
them. Yeah, I I mean, the the Broncos
39:04
are probably the worst first place team right now in the NFL,
39:09
Actually not true because the Baltimore Ravens and the
39:11
Pittsburgh Steelers are fighting, But that that's just
39:14
pathetic, too. I mean, that's really bad.
39:16
And by the way, Lamar Jackson and the Baltimore Rivers getting
39:19
booed after the first half of the game was just absolutely
39:22
hilarious. And then they find a way to win
39:24
the game and The Jets find a way to lose the game.
39:26
But that's a whole nother story. We'll talk about that on the
39:28
whip around. But yeah, the Kansas City Chiefs
39:32
are still dangerous because they have a quarterback that can get
39:35
the ball to these guys. And if if Rice is going to be
39:39
healthy and he's going to stay out of trouble off the field,
39:43
you have a number one threat that opens up many possibilities
39:47
on the offensive side of the ball.
39:48
And the Chiefs could definitely put up 3035 points a game if
39:52
they're doing that. And their defense even plays
39:54
half as well as it has been over the last couple of years.
39:57
The Chiefs are absolutely a Super Bowl contender and they
40:00
have the referees on their side. So it all bodes well as a as a
40:04
Jet fan or as an AFC fan, because The Jets never make the
40:08
playoffs. You don't want to see Kansas
40:11
City go to the Super Bowl coming from the AFC and after watching
40:16
that game against Indianapolis, who I think is the favorites and
40:19
I still believe are the favorites are coming out of the
40:21
AFC. It's starting to get you to
40:23
wonder if they meet up in the playoffs, if the game is close,
40:29
who are the referees going to? What side are the referees going
40:33
to take? Are they going to take the
40:35
Indianapolis Colts if the call is very close, or the Kansas
40:38
City Chiefs? The Swifties and I would say
40:40
it'll probably go to the Kansas City Chiefs.
40:42
It was a great. Show I want to wish everybody
40:44
happy Thanksgiving it's it's a holiday to spend with their
40:49
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So there's and then there's New Year's.
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It's been a crazy, crazy year here on job on the mouth.
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And next year is going to be a big year for us.
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So I want the year to end as quick as possible.
41:17
And let's move on to 2026, please.
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42:59
So again, a happy Thanksgiving, have a merry happy Thanksgiving.
43:05
And I'm tired, guys. I, I, I am absolutely drawn out
43:09
and drawn to a whole nother level.
43:12
So we will talk to you next week, Speedy, who we have on it
43:16
all. Right, Nathan getting 2 guests,
43:17
one of which we've had on the show last year.
43:19
Sylvester Williams, defensive tackle at 9:30.
43:22
He will be returning on Monday and then on Wednesday a new
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43:27
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43:29
And Charlie slows. That's right, Charlie Slows will
43:33
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43:35
conversation as the winter meetings are here.
43:38
So I'm sure Charlie has a lot of information that we don't have.
43:44
So it'll be fun getting Charlie on.
43:47
We'll we'll get some. Well, he's a he's a big
43:49
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43:53
So I'm sure he has his own takes to the Yankees and and maybe the
43:56
Mets. So it'll be fun.
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Charlie will be joining us. So it'll be cool.
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Anyways, that's it. Good night, farewell.
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Have a happy Thanksgiving. It's the worldwide sports radio
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network, Radio network.