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- 0:00Speaker 1: Imagine legally purchasing a five hundred and eighty nine dollars
- 0:05piece of tactical equipment online, you know, just sitting down
- 0:09to write a handwritten farewell note to your kids, and
- 0:12then methodically executing three members of your own family. And like,
- 0:16all of this happening while the very systems that are
- 0:19designed to intervene the ones meant to prevent such violence.
- 0:23I've just been flashing red for years. So welcome to
- 0:25this deep dive. Glad to be here today. We are,
- 0:29we're navigating some incredibly dark, really complex waters. Our mission
- 0:34here is to unpack a harrowing, honestly, meticulously documented five
- 0:38thousand word account of a suburban tragedy, one that's come
- 0:41to be known as the Crete Township massacre. And to
- 0:44be entirely clear with you right up front, we are
- 0:46relying exclusively on publicly available court documents, you know, shareff's
- 0:50office statements, and verified news reporting from May of twenty
- 0:53twenty six.
- 0:53Speaker 2: Yeah, and the scope of the material we are analyzing
- 0:56today is just immense. I mean, we have a highly
- 0:58detailed reconstruction of a night left three people dead and
- 1:02two young children orphaned.
- 1:03Speaker 1: It's just devastating it really is.
- 1:06Speaker 2: But our goal here is not simply to walk you
- 1:09through a timeline of a terrible event, because a timeline
- 1:12just tells you what happened. We need to understand the
- 1:15mechanics of the why exactly, Like how did the legal system,
- 1:20you know, family court protocols, interstate firearm regulations, and mental
- 1:24health infrastructures all interact to allow this outcome.
- 1:29Speaker 1: Because true crime media it often fixates on the stranger
- 1:32lurking in the shadows, you know, like the unknown intruder. Oh, totally,
- 1:36the boogeyman, right, the boogeyman. But what we are exploring
- 1:39today is a much more I guess, destabilizing reality. This
- 1:43is an examination of what happens when the threat is
- 1:46entirely internal to the family unit. It's about this collision
- 1:50course of untreated mental health crises, the weaponization of child custody,
- 1:55and fractured familial bonds. When you read through these court documents,
- 1:59it doesn't feel like a sudden, unpredictable lightning strike.
- 2:02Speaker 2: No, not at all.
- 2:03Speaker 1: It feels like a slow moving freight train that multiple
- 2:05institutions just watched approach yet completely failed to derail.
- 2:09Speaker 2: The sources document a very specific progression. I mean we're
- 2:12looking at a system, or rather a patchwork of overlapping
- 2:16decentralized systems that failed to interrupt a fatal trajectory. And
- 2:22to really understand the failure points, we have to look
- 2:24closely at the physical and psychological geography of where this
- 2:28took place.
- 2:28Speaker 1: Yeah, let's set the scene for that. So we are
- 2:31in unincorporated Crete Township, Illinois. And for those unfamiliar, this
- 2:35is a community of roughly ten thousand people. It's located
- 2:38just a short drive south of Chicago. Okay, but being
- 2:41unincorporated is it's actually an important distinction here.
- 2:45Speaker 2: Why is that?
- 2:46Speaker 1: Well, it means you aren't dealing with a dense urban grid.
- 2:50You're looking at spacious, treeline neighborhoods. People move to these
- 2:54areas specifically for the quiet, Yeah, for the safety, for
- 2:58the predictable rhythms of suburb.
- 3:00Speaker 2: Right, they want that piece exactly.
- 3:02Speaker 1: These communities are effectively designed as walled gardens, you know,
- 3:06they're geographically structured to insulate residents from the unpredictability of
- 3:10the city.
- 3:11Speaker 2: And on the night of March twenty second into the
- 3:13early hours of March twenty third, twenty twenty six, the
- 3:16structural illusion of that walled garden was violently dismantled. Yeah, So,
- 3:21at approximately two am, Will County Sheriff's deputies are dispatched
- 3:25to a residence on East Norway Trail. They're responding to
- 3:28a welfare check because neighbors in this extremely quiet, low
- 3:33density area reported hearing the muffled sounds of gunfire.
- 3:37Speaker 1: And I mean, if you are a deputy pulling up
- 3:39to a house in a neighborhood like that at two
- 3:40in the morning, your baseline expectation for a shots fired
- 3:44call is usually pretty low stakes.
- 3:46Speaker 2: Right. You're probably thinking someone is shooting at a coyote
- 3:48or yeah.
- 3:49Speaker 1: Or maybe teenagers are just messing around with firecrackers. At worst,
- 3:52you might anticipate a domestic dispute that got out of hand, exactly.
- 3:56But what the deputies stepped into instantly defies any of
- 3:59those standard operational expectations. I mean, they walk into a
- 4:02dual crime scene that is staggering in its specific calculated brutality.
- 4:07Speaker 2: Yeah, and the geography of the crime scene is split
- 4:09into two distinct locations, which immediately changes how law enforcement
- 4:14processes the event.
- 4:15Speaker 1: Oh for sure.
- 4:16Speaker 2: So inside the home on East Norway trail, deputies locate
- 4:19two victims. Fifty five year old Patrick Ford is found
- 4:22in the dining room. He has been shot seventeen times
- 4:26at close range.
- 4:27Speaker 1: Seventeen times.
- 4:28Speaker 2: Wow, yeah, with the ballistic trauma concentrated entirely in his
- 4:31chest and abdomen.
- 4:32Speaker 1: Guy.
- 4:33Speaker 2: And then on the adjacent staircase they find fifty four
- 4:36year old Stacey Ford. She has been shot three times
- 4:39in the same vital areas, also a close range.
- 4:42Speaker 1: Okay, so seventeen rounds into a single victim. But wait,
- 4:46couldn't a defense attorney argue that seventeen shots is indicative
- 4:49of a panic response.
- 4:51Speaker 2: How do you mean?
- 4:52Speaker 1: Well, say a random burglar breaks in, gets startled by
- 4:55the homeowner, and just empties the magazine in absolute terror.
- 4:58Doesn't that happen?
- 4:59Speaker 2: That is a really common assumption, But forensic analysis reads
- 5:03that entirely differently. Really yeah. Panic fire is almost always scattered.
- 5:07A terrified shooter lacks breath control and stance right, so
- 5:10the rounds will strike the ceiling, the dry wall, the furniture.
- 5:12Oh with placing seventeen rounds tightly into the center mass
- 5:16of a single target requires sustained visual focus, intentional trigger
- 5:21resets and likely a high capacity magazine or a.
- 5:24Speaker 1: Reload, So just deliberate exactly.
- 5:27Speaker 2: In the forensic world, we look at the acoustic and
- 5:29physical mechanics of that kind of violence. It takes physical
- 5:32effort and time to pull a trigger seventeen times. That
- 5:35is not panic, that is overkill. It is the physical
- 5:38manifestation of profound, targeted animosity.
- 5:42Speaker 1: Which completely changes the narrative of the scene, and that
- 5:45brings us to the chilling detail that upends any lingering
- 5:47theory of a home invasion. The deputies find no broken glass,
- 5:52no splintered door frames, the televisions are still on the walls.
- 5:55Valuables are completely untouched.
- 5:57Speaker 2: Yeah, nothing taken.
- 5:58Speaker 1: And then less than a block away and a nearby
- 6:00cul de sac they locate the second half of the
- 6:02crime scene.
- 6:03Speaker 2: Yes, In that cul de sac, investigators find a twenty
- 6:06fourteen Ford fusion titanium and inside the vehicle, slump face
- 6:10down on a reclined passenger seat is thirty two year
- 6:13old Jacob Q. Lambert. He has been shot once, execution
- 6:17style in the back of the head.
- 6:18Speaker 1: The contrast there is what I find so deeply disturbing.
- 6:22I mean, in the dining room, you have an absolute
- 6:24explosion of rage seventeen rounds. But out in the car,
- 6:28you have a single, precise, execution style shot.
- 6:31Speaker 2: Yeah, it's totally different.
- 6:32Speaker 1: How does law enforcement reconcile those two completely different signatures
- 6:36of violence happening within minutes of each other.
- 6:39Speaker 2: They reconcile it by looking at the relationship between the
- 6:42victims and the killer. Okay, the execution in the car
- 6:46implies a chilling level of physical control and deception. You
- 6:50do not get a single shot to the back of
- 6:52the head of an adult male in a replying car
- 6:54seat unless that victim is completely relaxed, right, entirely unaware
- 6:59of the threat, and comfortable with the person sitting right
- 7:01next to them.
- 7:02Speaker 1: Wow.
- 7:03Speaker 2: Yeah. So combine that intimate proximity in the car with
- 7:06the overkill inside a locked home, and investigators know instantly
- 7:10that they're not looking for a stranger.
- 7:12Speaker 1: It's someone they know exactly.
- 7:14Speaker 2: The perpetrator is someone within the family's inner circle, someone
- 7:18who possessed the keys to the house, someone who possessed
- 7:21the trust of the man in the car, and someone
- 7:23harboring a highly specific lethal grievance.
- 7:27Speaker 1: So the immediate question becomes, who are these three victims
- 7:31and what familial dynamic made them the targets of an assassination,
- 7:36because everything in the sorts material indicates these people were
- 7:39the absolute stabilizing center of their family's world.
- 7:42Speaker 2: Let's look at the profiles provided in the court records
- 7:44and the community and reporting.
- 7:45Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 7:46Speaker 2: So, Jacob Lambert, the man found in the vehicle, was
- 7:49a thirty two year old father of two young children,
- 7:51ages three and four. Okay, he has described extensively as
- 7:55a devoted father who is actively working to navigate a
- 7:58highly complex coparentings situation.
- 8:00Speaker 1: And his mother and stepfather, Stacy and Patrick Ford, were
- 8:03essentially the pillars of this family. They were longtime respected
- 8:07residents of the Crete area. Neighbors described them as the
- 8:10kind of grandparents who didn't just show up for holidays,
- 8:13you know, they were deeply involved in the daily logistics
- 8:16of raising those two young grandchildren. When the primary parenting
- 8:20dynamic broked down.
- 8:22Speaker 2: And the sociological impact on the town was immediate and immense,
- 8:26a local vigil drew dozens of mourners, and we really
- 8:30have to place this within the broader context of the
- 8:32town's psychology at that moment.
- 8:34Speaker 1: Oh, that's right.
- 8:35Speaker 2: Yeah, The sources explicitly note the crete township was already
- 8:38dealing with the collective trauma of a completely unrelated fatal
- 8:42house fire on shelle a court that has occurred shortly before.
- 8:45Speaker 1: Just terrible timing.
- 8:47Speaker 2: So the community was already in a state of mourning,
- 8:49and then they are hit with a triple homicide that
- 8:52wipes out multiple generations of a single family.
- 8:54Speaker 1: The dynamic that set this in motions centers entirely around
- 8:58the accused, thirty year old Jenni Struggle. She lived just
- 9:01across the state line in Saint John, Indiana, and she
- 9:04is the mother of the three and four year old children. Right,
- 9:07she and Jacob Lambert had a turbulent on an off
- 9:10romantic relationship. Now, whenever we hear about violence surrounding co parenting,
- 9:15the immediate cultural shorthand is to call it a bitter
- 9:18custody battle. Right, Oh, absolutely, we picture two parents in
- 9:21a family courtroom aggressively fighting for primary custody, neither willing
- 9:25to give an inch. But the sources provided detail that
- 9:29totally shatters that trope, and I want to make sure
- 9:31we don't glide past it. Jenna Strubbleead actually voluntarily relinquished
- 9:36custody to Jacob and his family.
- 9:39Speaker 2: That is perhaps the most psychologically significant detail in the
- 9:42early timeline. According to the filings, she explicitly cited her
- 9:47own ongoing challenges as the reason for voluntarily handing over
- 9:51custody of her children to Jacob, Stacy and Patrick.
- 9:55Speaker 1: But wait, if she voluntarily gave them up because she
- 9:58knew she was struggling, why the violent reversal. That seems
- 10:01entirely contradictory to me.
- 10:02Speaker 2: It does on the surface, you don't hand over.
- 10:04Speaker 1: Your children to a stabilizing force if you view that
- 10:06force as an enemy. So what shifts a grandparent from
- 10:09a necessary, helpful safety net into a mortal threat.
- 10:12Speaker 2: It requires looking at child custody not merely as a
- 10:15legal arrangement, but as a proxy for psychological control.
- 10:18Speaker 1: Okay, go on.
- 10:19Speaker 2: When a parent voluntarily relinquishes custody, it is a profound
- 10:23admission of vulnerability and inadequacy. Initially, the Ford stepping in
- 10:28to provide stability was likely a massive relief. That makes sense,
- 10:32but human psychology, particularly when complicated by severe mental health struggles,
- 10:36is not static. As the accused perhaps attempted to regain
- 10:40her footing or rebuild her identity, the continuous, undeniable stability
- 10:45of the Fords may have transformed into a mirror.
- 10:48Speaker 1: A mirror you mean, like reflecting her own perceived failures.
- 10:52Speaker 2: Ercisely, in clinical terms, this is often related to a
- 10:55narcissistic injury. The competence of the grandparents becomes an active
- 10:59insult to her identity as a mother.
- 11:01Speaker 1: Oh wow.
- 11:02Speaker 2: They transition in her internal narrative, from a supportive safety
- 11:05net into an existential threat to her self worth. The
- 11:08court sources explicitly state her motive. She expressed a deep
- 11:12seated fear that if something happened to her, the Fords
- 11:15would gain permanent custody.
- 11:16Speaker 1: And she viewed that outcome as unacceptable.
- 11:19Speaker 2: Exactly, they were no longer family. They were the ultimate
- 11:21obstacle preventing her from controlling the narrative of her children's destiny.
- 11:25Speaker 1: To really understand how a mind makes that radical shift
- 11:29from voluntarily surrendering toddlers to systematically executing their grandparents, we
- 11:35have to examine Jenna Strubble's internal world. Yeah, we do,
- 11:39because outwardly she presented as a typical suburban mother residing
- 11:42in Indiana, but the court documents reveal a heavily documented,
- 11:47years long battle with her mental health. And I'm not
- 11:50just talking about mild depression here.
- 11:52Speaker 2: No, the filings are explicit she had a long standing
- 11:55history of severe depression and suicidal ideation. Critically, the records
- 12:01indicate a prior involuntary commitment to a psychiatric facility.
- 12:06Speaker 1: And the sources detail specific anecdotes that are genuinely terrifying
- 12:10when viewed in hindsight. There are documented expressions of wanting
- 12:13to harm her own parents, right. There are voiced thoughts
- 12:16of jumping from a window while holding.
- 12:18Speaker 2: Her children, just incredibly dark stuff.
- 12:20Speaker 1: And then there's an incident that feels like it should
- 12:22have stopped everything in its tracks. She actively hit her
- 12:25father's rifle under her bed while voicing unexecuted plans to
- 12:28kill Jacob Lambert.
- 12:29Speaker 2: While she was prescribed medication to manage these conditions. That
- 12:33specific incident with the rifle represents a massive behavioral leap. Definitely,
- 12:38we're no longer talking about passive suicidal ideation. We are
- 12:42talking about active homicidal ideation coupled with physical preparation.
- 12:47Speaker 1: We often hear people use the analogy of a check
- 12:50engine light for these kinds of warning, right, But that
- 12:54analogy feels too passive. For this, a check engine light
- 12:57means something is slowly wearing down. This feels more like
- 13:00the Swiss Cheese model of systemic failure.
- 13:03Speaker 2: Oh, the Swiss Cheese model. Yeah.
- 13:04Speaker 1: You have all these different layers of defense, the medical community,
- 13:07the family, courts, law enforcement, and each layer has holes
- 13:11in it. Usually the holes don't line up. But here
- 13:14you have an involuntary commitment, homicidal ideation involving a firearm,
- 13:18and severe custody.
- 13:20Speaker 2: Ing speities, and somehow the holes aligned perfectly, allowing her
- 13:23to slip right through.
- 13:24Speaker 1: Yes, how does the system legally allow someone with that
- 13:27specific history to regain custody or operate without intense mandatory oversight?
- 13:32Speaker 2: Because the systems operate in fundamentally reactive, isolated silos, the
- 13:37legal and psychiatric frameworks in the United States are largely
- 13:41designed to intervene only during an acute, immediate crisis.
- 13:45Speaker 1: Okay, so like a nine to one one call exactly.
- 13:48Speaker 2: The criteria for an involuntary commitment, often referred to under
- 13:52various state laws like the Baker Act in Florida or
- 13:55similar statutes in Indiana and Illinois, require the individual to
- 14:00present an imminent danger to themselves or others right. Once
- 14:03the acute crisis passes and the patient stabilizes on medication
- 14:07or recants the immediate threat, the legal hold is released.
- 14:11Speaker 1: So when she hides her father's rifle and talks about
- 14:13killing her ex, if she doesn't actually pull the trigger
- 14:15that night, the system just categorizes it as a crisis
- 14:19averted exactly.
- 14:20Speaker 2: The family court might note, the psychiatric facility might document it,
- 14:23but there is rarely a mechanism for continuous preventative surveillance
- 14:27once the individual returns to the comunity.
- 14:29Speaker 1: That's terrifying.
- 14:30Speaker 2: And Furthermore, the privacy protections of HYPA often prevent mental
- 14:34health facilities from actively sharing detailed, ongoing risk assessments with
- 14:39family court judges unless subpoenaed under very specific conditions.
- 14:43Speaker 1: Which means the judge making custody decisions might only be
- 14:46seeing a fraction of the danger. Right, and those systemic
- 14:50blind spots didn't just allow her to regain her footing,
- 14:53they provided the cover for her to design a highly specific,
- 14:56chillingly methodical plan.
- 14:58Speaker 2: Yes, they did.
- 14:59Speaker 1: This brings us to the anatomy of the premeditation. The
- 15:03timeline of how she weaponized her intent is detailed in
- 15:06the sources, and it is methodical. In December of twenty
- 15:09twenty five, she legally purchases a Glock nineteen handgun.
- 15:13Speaker 2: We really need to pause on the word legally, because
- 15:15this exposes the most glaring hole in the Swiss cheese model.
- 15:18Speaker 1: Let's do it.
- 15:18Speaker 2: How does someone with a prior involuntary commitment legally acquire
- 15:22a firearm? The National Instant Criminal Background Check System, or
- 15:26NICs is a federal database. Federal law technically prohibits individuals
- 15:30who have been adjudicated as a mental defective or committed
- 15:33to a mental institution from purchasing firearms.
- 15:36Speaker 1: Right, so, if the federal law prohibits it, how did
- 15:39she walk out of a store with the glock nineteen?
- 15:41Did she buy it on the black market?
- 15:43Speaker 2: No? The sources indicate a legal purchase. The failure point
- 15:47lies in the reporting mechanisms. Of of course, the NICs
- 15:51database relies almost entirely on individual states to voluntarily upload
- 15:55their mental health records.
- 15:57Speaker 1: Voluntarily.
- 15:58Speaker 2: Yes, if it involuntary commitment occurs at a state or
- 16:01county level facility and that specific jurisdiction fails to transmit
- 16:05the paperwork to the federal NICs index, which happens with
- 16:09alarming frequency. Due to underfunding, administrative backlogs, or confusion over
- 16:14privacy laws. The background check simply comes back clean, so.
- 16:18Speaker 1: The federal computer can only search the records that has
- 16:20actually been given. Exactly, So, a clerk at a gun
- 16:23shop runs her name, the computer says proceed, and she
- 16:26is handed a nine milimeter handgun. But she doesn't stop
- 16:29at the gun.
- 16:30Speaker 2: No, she doesn't.
- 16:31Speaker 1: Weeks later, the sources show she goes online and purchases
- 16:34a suppressor a silencer for approximately five hundred and eighty
- 16:37nine dollars. I have to ask, how on earth do
- 16:40you buy a suppressor online? Doesn't the government heavily regulate those?
- 16:44Speaker 2: They do? Suppressors are regulated under the National Firearms Act
- 16:48of nineteen thirty four, or the NFA. Purchasing one is
- 16:52not like buying a standard rifle.
- 16:54Speaker 1: How does it work?
- 16:54Speaker 2: It requires submitting an ATF Form four, providing fingerprints, passport photo,
- 17:00paying a two hundred dollars tax stamp, and waiting for
- 17:03an extensive background check that can take anywhere from six
- 17:06to twelve months to clear.
- 17:07Speaker 1: Wait wait six to twelve months? Yes, so you're telling
- 17:10me she had to navigate a labyrinth of federal paperwork,
- 17:14get fingerprinted, pay hundreds of dollars, and then wait months
- 17:18for this device to arrive.
- 17:19Speaker 2: Yes, and from a psychological and legal standpoint, that administrative
- 17:24burden is exactly what prosecutors will focus on.
- 17:26Speaker 1: Wow.
- 17:27Speaker 2: Navigating the NFA process requires executive function, patience, and long
- 17:31term planning. It completely eviscerates any defense that this violence
- 17:36was a sudden, impulsive snap.
- 17:37Speaker 1: It fundamentally redefines the nature of the crime. I mean,
- 17:40if someone buys a handgun, a defense attorney might argue
- 17:43they felt vulnerable, they wanted it for home protection. But
- 17:46you do not buy a five hundred dollars suppressor for
- 17:48personal self defense. You buy a suppressor because you're planning
- 17:52a tactical operation and you need to control the acoustic
- 17:55environment of your crime scene.
- 17:57Speaker 2: Precisely. You buy a suppressor because you you know you
- 18:01are going to be firing multiple rounds in an environment
- 18:04where the noise would alert neighbors or other victims. And
- 18:08if the suppressor wasn't enough to prove premeditation. The final
- 18:12piece of evidence cements it the note Yes. The night
- 18:15before the killings, she sits down and writes a handwritten
- 18:18note According to the court filings, this note explicitly lists
- 18:23the names of her three children, the two she shared
- 18:25with Lambert, and potentially another child, and it provides instructions
- 18:29asking others to care for them in her absence.
- 18:31Speaker 1: Think about the psychological state required to write that note.
- 18:34She is actively making logistical arrangements for a future where
- 18:38she knows she will no longer be present. She fully
- 18:40comprehends the permanence of what she is about to do, and.
- 18:43Speaker 2: That profound awareness severely complicates any potential insanity defense Under
- 18:49Illinois law. To successfully argue criminal insanity, the defense must
- 18:54prove that the accused lacked the substantial capacity to appreciate
- 18:58the criminality of their conduct at the time of the act. Okay,
- 19:02I see, But if you spend months acquiring stealth equipment
- 19:05and you write a farewell note making arrangements for your children,
- 19:09you are demonstrating a crystal clear understanding that your upcoming
- 19:13actions will result in your permanent removal from society, either
- 19:17through death or life in prison.
- 19:19Speaker 1: She knew exactly what the consequences would be exactly with
- 19:22the suppressor legally acquired attached to the Glock nineteen and
- 19:25the farewell note left behind the trap is officially set.
- 19:30This brings us to the timeline of March twenty second.
- 19:33Speaker 2: Yeah, this is where it gets incredibly grim.
- 19:35Speaker 1: The sequence of events reconstructed through probable cause affidavits and
- 19:39struggles own admissions is an agonizing display of cold deliberation.
- 19:43Speaker 2: The execution of the plan begins with deception. She sends
- 19:46a text message to Jacob Lambert inviting him to simply
- 19:49hang out, and.
- 19:50Speaker 1: He agrees entirely on a way of what is coming.
- 19:54They initially meet near the Plunk Creek Nature Preserve. However,
- 19:58finding the preserve closed, they pull the Ford Fusion over
- 20:01onto the shoulder of Burnham Road in Sock Village, right,
- 20:05and this is where the trap springs. But it happens
- 20:07with a level of intimacy that is frankly horrifying. Struggle
- 20:11offers Jacob a back massage. Yeah. She climbs over and
- 20:14straddles him in the reclined passenger seat, and she proceeds
- 20:17to massage his back for roughly twenty minutes.
- 20:20Speaker 2: Twenty minutes. We really need to pause and analyze that
- 20:24duration in the context of a premeditated homicide. Twenty minutes
- 20:28of physical contact is a vast, almost incomprehensible expanse of time.
- 20:33Speaker 1: How does the human nervous system even handle that you
- 20:36are touching the father of your children. You can feel
- 20:38his chest rising and falling, you can feel his body heat.
- 20:41Speaker 2: It's hard to fathom your own heart.
- 20:43Speaker 1: Must be pounding out of your chest. And yet she
- 20:45doesn't panic, she doesn't break down and confess. After those
- 20:48twenty minutes, she reaches for the suppressed glock nineteen she
- 20:51had hidden under the seat.
- 20:52Speaker 2: And the sources specifically state she holds the muzzle of
- 20:55that weapon to the back of his head for several
- 20:58minutes before pulling the trigger.
- 20:59Speaker 1: The ability to maintain that posture without the autonomic nervous
- 21:03system overwhelming the brain, it just speaks to a psychological
- 21:06state known as predatory detachment. Yes, can you explain the
- 21:09difference there? We usually think of murderers as being completely
- 21:12consumed by rage, right.
- 21:14Speaker 2: We tend to categorize violence into two types, effective and predatory.
- 21:20Effective violence is reactive, it's the bar fight, the sudden
- 21:24crime of passion. The autonomic nervous system spikes adrenaline floods
- 21:28the body, and the violence is chaotic and immediate.
- 21:31Speaker 1: Okay, that makes sense.
- 21:32Speaker 2: Predatory violence, however, is instrumental. It is cold, the perpetrator's
- 21:36heart rate actually lowers. Yeah, they do not view the
- 21:40victim as a human being with an internal life. They
- 21:43view them strictly as an object to be manipulated and
- 21:46eliminated to achieve a goal.
- 21:48Speaker 1: So during those several minutes of holding the gun to
- 21:50his skull, she isn't processing his humanity or their shared history.
- 21:55Speaker 2: No, empathy requires a cognitive recognition of the other person's reality.
- 22:00In a state of predatory detachment, that cognitive bridge is
- 22:04deliberately burned. Wow, he was no longer the father of
- 22:07her children. He was simply step one in the logistical
- 22:10process of preventing the Fords from gaining permanent custody.
- 22:14Speaker 1: He is killed instantly in the vehicle, but the operation
- 22:17doesn't end on Burnham Road. She then takes the wheel
- 22:19of his car, the very car containing his body, and
- 22:23drives it to the Ford's home on East Norway Trail.
- 22:27She parks in the nearby cul de Sac, walks to
- 22:29the house and uses Jacob's own keys to attempt entry.
- 22:33When Patrick Ford opens the door, she doesn't hesitate. She
- 22:37fires seventeen rounds into his chest and abdomen as he
- 22:40stands in his dining room just brutal. Stacy Ford, hearing
- 22:43the sudden commotion, comes downstairs and is met with three
- 22:46shots to the chest and abdomen.
- 22:48Speaker 2: The acoustic environment of that house in those moments is
- 22:51something we have to address. She used a suppressor, but
- 22:54a suppressor does not make a firearm completely silent like
- 22:57in the movies.
- 22:58Speaker 1: It doesn't I always thought it did.
- 23:00Speaker 2: All it reduces the descpel level from deafening to something
- 23:03resembling a loud pneumatic nail gun or a sharp clap.
- 23:07It masks the acoustic signature, so neighbors outside might not
- 23:11immediately recognize it as gunfire. But inside that house, the
- 23:16noise and the concussive pressure of twenty rounds being fired
- 23:19would have been chaotic and terrifying.
- 23:21Speaker 1: And that leads to the most miraculous yet simultaneously devastating
- 23:25fact in these entire documents. Inside that home while twenty
- 23:29rounds are being fired are the three and four year
- 23:31old children.
- 23:32Speaker 2: They were physically present in the environment where their grandparents
- 23:35were being executed.
- 23:36Speaker 1: The sources indicate they were physically unharmed, but to say
- 23:40they were unharmed feels like a massive failure of language.
- 23:43Speaker 2: Physically uninjured is the correct legal term, but the neurobiological
- 23:48trauma inflicted on a developing three and four year old
- 23:50brain in that scenario is catastrophic. Absolutely, whether they visually
- 23:55witness the violence or simply absorbed the chaotic auditory environment
- 23:58and the immediate terrifying app math, their primary zone of
- 24:02safety was violently annihilated while they were inside it.
- 24:05Speaker 1: After executing this incredibly cold, multi stage elimination of three
- 24:10family members, a plan she spent months outfitting herself for.
- 24:14The meticulous tactical nature of the operation just abruptly evaporates, it,
- 24:19really does. The unraveling of Jenna's strubble happens at a
- 24:21surprisingly rapid pace.
- 24:24Speaker 2: She flees the scene in Illinois, leaving the children in
- 24:27the house, and crosses the state line back to her
- 24:30residence in Saint John, Indiana, and almost immediately upon returning
- 24:34to her own jurisdiction, the secrecy she spent months cultivating dissolves.
- 24:39What happens. He makes a phone call to her sister
- 24:41and confesses to the triple murder, and.
- 24:43Speaker 1: The sister does exactly what you pray someone would do
- 24:45in an impossible situation like that, she immediately contacts law enforcement.
- 24:50Right Indiana deputies arrive at Struggles residence, and again the
- 24:53behavior shifts. She doesn't barricade herself, she doesn't attempt to flee.
- 24:57She calmly hands the deputies the loaded suppress next Glock
- 25:00nineteen without offering any physical resistance.
- 25:03Speaker 2: It's just a total one to eighty.
- 25:04Speaker 1: The Ford fusion with Jacob Lambert's body is found abandoned
- 25:08nearby within days. On March twenty seventh, she appears in
- 25:12a Lake County, Indiana court and completely waives her right
- 25:15to fight extradition, allowing authorities to immediately transport her back
- 25:19across the border to Will County, Illinois.
- 25:22Speaker 2: The legal mechanics of extradition between states can sometimes drag
- 25:25on for months if the accused fights it, demanding governor's
- 25:28warrants and evidentiary hearings.
- 25:30Speaker 1: Yeah, I've heard of that dragging out forever.
- 25:32Speaker 2: By waiving extradition, she accelerated her entry into the Illinois
- 25:36justice system, But it is during the subsequent interviews with
- 25:39detectives that the prosecution secures what they view as the
- 25:43final nails in the coffin.
- 25:44Speaker 1: The quotes from the interrogation room provided, and the sources
- 25:47are astonishing in their bluntness. She explicitly admits to investigators
- 25:52that she went to meet Jacob Lambert with an intention
- 25:54to harm him, and then detectives pushed further. They ask
- 25:58her directly if she went to the four home to
- 26:00finish her plan, and her exact response entered into the
- 26:03record was yeah, pretty much.
- 26:06Speaker 2: She essentially articulates the legal definition of first degree premeditated
- 26:11murder directly into a recording device.
- 26:14Speaker 1: It's unbelievable.
- 26:15Speaker 2: She confirms the custody related motive, the forethought, and the
- 26:19intentional execution of the subsequent victims.
- 26:21Speaker 1: But this is where the legal process introduces a jarring
- 26:25contradiction that I need you to explain because it makes
- 26:27no sense to the average person.
- 26:28Speaker 2: Okay, let's get into it.
- 26:29Speaker 1: She buys the suppressor, she leaves the handwritten farewell note.
- 26:34She physically hands the actual murder weapon over to the police.
- 26:38She explicitly tells detectives yeah, pretty much when asked if
- 26:42she was finishing her plan. And then on April tenth,
- 26:46she stands before Judge Amy Brittani Tomzak, represented by her
- 26:49attorney David drunka and she pleads not guilty to nine
- 26:53counts of first degree murder YEA. The judge denies pre
- 26:55trial release, which is obvious. But what is the defense
- 26:58strategy here when the confession is already on tape. Doesn't
- 27:02pleading not guilty just force the surviving family through an
- 27:05agonizing trial process. Why does the system allow a not
- 27:08guilty plea when the evidence is that absolute.
- 27:11Speaker 2: It is a profound point of friction for the public.
- 27:14But we have to dissect how the adversarial justice system
- 27:17operates mechanically. First, let's address the charge structure. Nine counts
- 27:22of murder for three victims can sound.
- 27:24Speaker 1: Confusing, right, It makes it sound like there were nine
- 27:27bodies in Illinois.
- 27:29Speaker 2: First degree murder charges are heavily structured to reflect multiple
- 27:32legal theories of the exact same crime. Nine counts for
- 27:36three victims likely means three distinct counts per victim.
- 27:39Speaker 1: Okay, what are the theories?
- 27:40Speaker 2: Prosecutors will charge the intentional act of killing, They will
- 27:44also charge committing an act knowing it creates a strong
- 27:47probability of death, and finally, they will utilize felony murder enhancements.
- 27:53Speaker 1: How does a felony murder enhancement work.
- 27:55Speaker 2: Felony murder means that if someone dies while you are
- 27:58in the commission of a forcible felon, you're liable for
- 28:01first degree murder, regardless of intent.
- 28:03Speaker 1: So even if it's accidental.
- 28:05Speaker 2: Exactly so, if the prosecution proved she committed residential burglary
- 28:09or home invasion by unlawfully using Jacob's keys to enter
- 28:12the Ford's home, the resulting deaths automatically trigger the felony
- 28:16murder statute. Oh I see it is the prosecution throwing
- 28:19a wide net to ensure that even if a jury
- 28:22doubts one specific theory of intent, the legal framework catches
- 28:27the conviction on another.
- 28:29Speaker 1: Okay, that explains the nine counts. But what about the plea?
- 28:32Why plead not guilty when you've already confessed?
- 28:34Speaker 2: Because a not guilty plea at an arraignment is rarely
- 28:37a declaration of actual innocence. It is a strict procedural mechanism. Interesting,
- 28:42if she pleads guilty at the arraignment, the case immediately
- 28:45proceeds to sentencing, and the defense waives almost all rights
- 28:49to challenge how the evidence was collected. The defense attorney's
- 28:53primary constitutional role at this stage isn't to decide if
- 28:56she did it. It is to relentlessly test the integrity
- 28:59of this state's case.
- 29:00Speaker 1: So they are throwing the brakes on the system to
- 29:02buy time.
- 29:03Speaker 2: Exactly, by entering a not guilty flea, attorney David Dronka
- 29:08forces the state to legally prove every single element beyond
- 29:11a reasonable doubt. It initiates the discovery process. Makes sense.
- 29:15We can expect fierce pre trial motion battles. The defense
- 29:20will file motions to suppress the confession, arguing perhaps that
- 29:23her miranda rights were improperly administered, or that her documented
- 29:27mental health crisis rendered the confession legally involuntary.
- 29:31Speaker 1: Oh, they could argue she wasn't in her right mind
- 29:34when she confessed.
- 29:35Speaker 2: Exactly. They will challenge the admissibility of the interstate gun
- 29:38purchase records. They will scrutinize the search warrants used to
- 29:42recover the handwritten note. The not guilty plea is the
- 29:45only tool that allows the defense to ensure the government
- 29:48played strictly by the rules.
- 29:50Speaker 1: It makes mechanical sense, even if it feels emotionally bankrupt
- 29:53to the victim's families. But while the legal machinery of
- 29:56Will County slowly grinds forward. Bogged down in motions and
- 29:59admissibilit hearings, the real world impact on the surrounding community
- 30:03and those surviving children continues to ripple outward.
- 30:06Speaker 2: Yeah, the sociological implications here are massive. Tell me about
- 30:09that sociologists and criminologists use cases like the Crete Township
- 30:14massacre to examine macro level data. The sources note that
- 30:18researchers classify this specific type of event as a femilicide,
- 30:22a scenario where a perpetrator kills an intimate partner or
- 30:25ex partner along with extended family members.
- 30:28Speaker 1: The data presented in the Sources points out that while
- 30:31familicide is statistically rare compared to standard domestic homicides, when
- 30:36it does occur, it almost universally features the exact elements
- 30:39we are looking at today. It heavily involves firearms, it
- 30:42requires intense premeditation rather than sudden impulse, and it is
- 30:46almost always catalyzed by custody disputes or the perceived total
- 30:50loss of control over the family structure.
- 30:52Speaker 2: Another critical implication highlighted is the logistical challenge of jurisdictional borders.
- 30:58This case brutally exposes the poorest nature of state lines
- 31:01when dealing with domestic violence.
- 31:03Speaker 1: He really does.
- 31:03Speaker 2: You have an accused individual living in Indiana who legally
- 31:07navigates federal and state gun laws, crosses into Illinois to
- 31:10execute a complex triple homicide, and then simply drives back
- 31:13across the border to her home state.
- 31:15Speaker 1: It required immediate cross border law enforcement coordination between Lake County,
- 31:20Indiana and Will County, Illinois, and while the police response
- 31:23in the immediate aftermath was swift, it highlights a terrifying
- 31:27loophole in preventative care. Yeah, if the police can cross
- 31:31borders to arrest you, why can't the mental health and
- 31:33family courts cross borders to stop you? That is the question,
- 31:36and the most agonizing ripple effect of all this systemic
- 31:39failure falls squarely on the shoulders of the three and
- 31:42four year old children. Legally speaking, they are now orphans.
- 31:46Their father is dead, their paternal grandparents, who were their
- 31:49stabilizing force, are dead. Their mother is sitting in a
- 31:53Juliet jail cell, facing the rest of her life in prison.
- 31:57Speaker 2: The court records indicate that emergency temporary placement hearings were
- 32:00immediately scheduled the extended families on both the Lambert and
- 32:04Struggle sides are now forced to navigate an agonizing competition
- 32:08for guardianship.
- 32:09Speaker 1: That sounds like a nightmare.
- 32:11Speaker 2: In the interim, the Department of Children and Family Services
- 32:14DCFS has to step in. They are tasked with managing
- 32:17the immediate physical safety of these children, determining the most
- 32:21stable foster or kin placement, and initiating the incredibly intensive
- 32:26long term neurobiological trauma counseling they are going to require.
- 32:30Speaker 1: I feel a profound sense of urgency about these systemic failures.
- 32:34This tragedy crosses state lines, It wipes out multiple generations
- 32:38of a family, and it managed to slip perfectly through
- 32:41the gaps between our mental health facilities, our federal background
- 32:44check systems, and our family courts.
- 32:47Speaker 2: Yeah, it fell right through the cracks.
- 32:48Speaker 1: If you are a lawmaker, a family court judge, or
- 32:51a social worker analyzing this deep dive, where exactly is
- 32:55the intervention point supposed to be when a mother is
- 32:58involuntarily committed when she hides a rifle under a bed,
- 33:01while when custody is voluntarily surrendered and then aggressively fought
- 33:04over at what exact coordinate does the system have the
- 33:07legal authority to step in and declare stop, this is
- 33:09a lethal situation.
- 33:11Speaker 2: Domestic violence advocates are actively using the Crete Township case
- 33:14to demand an answer to that exact question. They are
- 33:18pushing for mandatory automated information sharing across state.
- 33:22Speaker 1: Lines, which seems so obvious in hindsight.
- 33:25Speaker 2: Right, if an involuntary psychiatric old or a domestic incident
- 33:29report in Indiana does not automatically trigger it alert on
- 33:32the desk of a family court judge handling a custody
- 33:34case in Illinois, you have engineered a lesal blind spot.
- 33:38Speaker 1: And the ultimate irony of this entire tragedy is just sickening.
- 33:42Speaker 2: It is a dark, self fulfilling prophecy. The sources explicitly
- 33:46state that Jenna's troubles, meticulously planned actions were driven by
- 33:49a desperate, consuming, desire to control her children's destiny, to
- 33:53absolutely ensure that the Fords did not raise them. Yet,
- 33:56by executing this extreme violence to maintain that control, I
- 34:00guaranteed the precise opposite outcome. She ensured her children violently
- 34:04lost every single parental and stabilizing figure they had in
- 34:07the world, including herself.
- 34:08Speaker 1: To synthesize everything we've unpacked today from these court documents
- 34:12and reports, we are staring at the catastrophic intersection of
- 34:16inadequately monitored mental health, the absolute weaponization of custody anxieties,
- 34:22and a multi month, meticulously executed tactical plan that completely
- 34:26shattered the quiet walled garden of Crete Township.
- 34:30Speaker 2: We track the timeline from the initial voluntary relinquishment of custody,
- 34:34through the quiet navigation of the federal NFA process to
- 34:37acquire a suppressor, down to the agonizing twenty minute wait
- 34:40in a reclined car seat, culminating in an explosion of
- 34:43violence that left three people dead and altered the neurobiology
- 34:47of two young children forever.
- 34:48Speaker 1: I want to leave you with a final provocative thought
- 34:51to mollover as we close. We have spent this whole
- 34:53time dissecting the intense premeditation of the accused, the tactical suppressor,
- 34:58the handwritten farewell note, the predator detachment. But I want
- 35:01you to consider the blind spots of the system itself.
- 35:04Look closely at the mechanical facts presented in these documents.
- 35:08If a parent with a documented history of involuntary commitment
- 35:11and a documented history of homicidal ideation involving a firearm
- 35:15can legally navigate the federal background check system to purchase
- 35:19a nine millimeter handgun and then wait months to successfully
- 35:22acquire a five hundred dollars suppressor without a single alarm
- 35:25bell ringing Between the mental health facilities, the NICs database,
- 35:29and the family courts are our legal frameworks operating in
- 35:33dangerously isolated silos.
- 35:35Speaker 2: They absolutely are.
- 35:36Speaker 1: We invite you to investigate how your own local jurisdictions
- 35:39and state laws handle this perilous gap. How does your
- 35:43state report to federal databases? Because if these massive institutions
- 35:47don't communicate with each other, that walled garden of suburban
- 35:50safety isn't actually protecting anyone at all.
- 35:52Speaker 2: It is a critical area for public inquiry and legislative reform.
- 35:56And as a final procedural note, we must remind everyone
- 35:59that as of the report in May of twenty twenty six,
- 36:02Jenna's trouble maintains her innocence and is pleaded not guilty
- 36:05to all charges. The legal case remains ongoing and she
- 36:08is presumed innocent until proven guilty in a court of law.
- 36:11Speaker 1: Thank you for joining us as we navigate these difficult
- 36:13muddy waters. Today, stay curious, keep asking the hard questions
- 36:17about the systems that surround us, and keep thinking critically.