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- 0:01OK, we're starting with si EF tet.
- 0:08Just I just did. I looked up to Sholkhanarak
- 0:11Mishnagura. Just as far as the gear in the
- 0:13mikvah with the water, even if it's clear all he has to make a
- 0:17separation if his head's out of water just to make a separation.
- 0:20You just wrap your arms around your your chest.
- 0:24I mean, you can wear a belt. You're below your heart, right
- 0:28between the heart and the Malcolm Erva, and that's good
- 0:32enough, right? OK, to say a bracha also, if we
- 0:38didn't say it. So we don't say it for a gear.
- 0:42We don't say the bracha, the hakaniso berviso.
- 0:46First of all, that happens days or weeks before going to the
- 0:51mikvah and that's set on the the the breath.
- 0:54So that's not said. That's Pfirosh in the Shah and
- 0:57Resh Samh. Hey, see if Kimmel or else he'd
- 1:01be Olmer. OK, I did see again.
- 1:06Bisman is there. We're the concept why we're more
- 1:09strict now, perhaps with lots of details and a more difficult
- 1:14vetting process for the Garrus than in the olden days.
- 1:18At least the way it's brought down in in Ghazal is because
- 1:21then when a when a person converted, he generally would
- 1:26join an isolated close knit community and it'd be easy for
- 1:31him to learn the rest of the mitzvahs.
- 1:32So we don't, we didn't make him learn and keep every single
- 1:35mitzvah before he converted. We assumed he's going to learn
- 1:39and he's going to learn from his friends and his neighbors and
- 1:41he's not going to be influenced. They didn't have they didn't
- 1:44have TV. They didn't have they weren't so
- 1:47as influenced from the non Jews. At least that's perhaps the
- 1:51understanding. OK and one last thing when I
- 1:59don't remember I saw it, but it's either men it's either
- 2:04Sheva de Levi or men Khasidzak quoted in their name.
- 2:08But anyways, then one last thing I wanted to point out.
- 2:15When we see a bracha on a katan, really it's on the gut, but on
- 2:18the katan also, I saw it write down.
- 2:20We're not afraid. He's not going to go through.
- 2:23You're not going to finish off the process when you do the
- 2:26Milo. We say a bracha la mulla
- 2:28tagering, but he could change his mind and stop and never
- 2:30convert. We're not afraid of a bracha la
- 2:32vitala. So #1 Rove people who go through
- 2:37the Mila process are going to finish through also at the time
- 2:41you're doing a Mila. So we have that by Linda Tila
- 2:44Suddai and famous that once you say it's for the the Mila and
- 2:49that you are doing so there's really no issues of brachas and
- 2:52batala. OK, let's do Ted inside some big
- 2:56topics. Goy shabba lahtoch or lahto MI
- 3:00pine maka omi pine shahin shanolad lo BA.
- 3:06So now regular normal case of normal non Jew, he has some kind
- 3:12of lesion, something growing, something on his Orla he wants
- 3:17removed. So we say it's usser for him to
- 3:20do it for a Jew to do it for him, because this is called
- 3:24rufua. So that we learned already is
- 3:26usser. However, if you get if you get
- 3:29paid for it or there's issues of Ava of hatred and anti-Semitism.
- 3:34So then you're allowed to OK, that's not the but the point of
- 3:39this halacha is it's and it's Jew can't cut it in mitzvah
- 3:46because he doesn't have kavana to do it for the mitzvah.
- 3:49He could do it again for Ava or Schar or what?
- 3:52What? What are we about to talk about?
- 3:54What's the mitzvah? Nafika aimit kavana goye all
- 3:57emila. But now he wants to convert.
- 4:00So the conversion process we're calling a mitzvah and therefore
- 4:04that's a mitzvah. And actually it's a mitzvah for
- 4:09the Jew to cut it off because he's doing it.
- 4:11The shame. Garrus Hagah Malcolm Shammutter,
- 4:16as we just explained, when it's a mutter for goem for even
- 4:20though it's for fua, so then it's a mutter bicho inan, then
- 4:23it's it's mutter. It's not an issue.
- 4:25OK, good goy O Goya shabba the Amar ET Kaya.
- 4:32OK, so we have a a non Jew. He shows up and he's and we know
- 4:38he's a non Jew, right? He's a moksa qazi non Jew, the
- 4:41Amar ET kayarti the be Dino shoploni karaoi.
- 4:46And he says right. Or a stranger shows up and says,
- 4:49you know, I converted in his and so and so is based in Eno Neman.
- 4:57We can't believe them Lavoe Bekahal Achiavi adium.
- 5:01So we can't let him become to marry into our faith unless
- 5:06among the right, the the Jewish men and women, unless he brings
- 5:10adium that he actually was converted in that phase them the
- 5:14IM reinum nu hagim, the dark ESL, the osim ko ha mitzvah tare
- 5:20ELO bechascat Garrett sedak. But if we see him, he he's, he
- 5:25behaves just like one of us. Everything about him is the
- 5:27same. He's in kayamal, the mitzvahs.
- 5:29So then we assume he's a Hazaka, that he is actually a proper
- 5:34convert. The alpha piche in sham adim.
- 5:38But there's no idiom here should be idiom should be fenne me and
- 5:41IT Cairo. There's no idiom to testify
- 5:43whatsoever. They what they did convert that
- 5:45they want to obeys them. Who they are we have no idea.
- 5:48The alpha P Kane. Nevertheless, Imbow lead.
- 5:55You can give them an Aaliyah, but not marry him off.
- 5:58Well said the alpha P Kane Imbow lead Arabi Sir El en masino to
- 6:04alchiavi aidi. But we learned we right, we
- 6:08touched upon this before you at least need Adium for this person
- 6:12for this purpose. Adium that he that there were
- 6:15that he had Neela, Tavila and Adium that there was a basin of
- 6:19three, right. Because you do need OK, for the
- 6:23actual Kabbalah, you need Mishpat, you need 3 Ajitavlu.
- 6:29Oh, or you do the whole process all over again is what it means.
- 6:40OK, I think you'd have to do Mila and certainly you have to
- 6:44do Cabela's and mitzvahs because we're in a stage he doesn't
- 6:50have, right. So, but you do have to fast
- 6:52down, breathe, whatever you whatever the case is, I hear.
- 6:58But but that's part of the process.
- 7:01OK, OK, we'll see. I don't know.
- 7:05However, Huksuku Goem because he's a moksuk as a goy.
- 7:10They they came at these these people were known as as right.
- 7:16So now you have to do everything with.
- 7:19Yeah. There's no, there's no there's
- 7:22there's no way to assume that they did anything.
- 7:25What you said next, the next part Eval.
- 7:28Let's read this part MI shabavi Amar a this is talking about a
- 7:33person who we assume was always Jewish.
- 7:37He we he moved into the he he was born here.
- 7:39I don't know, moved into the community and he just was one of
- 7:42us and we always assumed that he was Jewish.
- 7:45Again, how far do you take it? Or whatever that's you need
- 7:49you're based in this is a public matter.
- 7:52It's not up anyways. Avalmi shabavi Amar Shu goi
- 7:57venit gayer be based in he this this person.
- 8:00We assume he's Jewish. Look at the we assume he's
- 8:04Jewish and then he says, wait, I wasn't born Jewish.
- 8:08I was born a non Jew and I converted and I converted so so
- 8:14then Neman, we believe him 100%. Shahapesh Asar who Hapesh
- 8:22Shahitir and we can even marry him off because there's amigo.
- 8:27We assumed he has a khazaka, that he was Jewish.
- 8:29He postled himself and convert and converted himself.
- 8:32Kilo al pet he right Peshi asar peshihita and therefore there's
- 8:37amigo and so we believe him 100%.
- 8:40Now the khat of Harambeam could be we would do this nowadays or
- 8:44not, I don't know. By Medvari memorium, the
- 8:47aretiser Alberto Ma Yamimsha has khatako, Shambak has Khatiso.
- 8:51That's if everyone has a everyone.
- 8:53If that's if it's an heir, it's Israel and everyone's Jewish.
- 8:56Of all the Hutzela Ari, it's but in Hutzel Arts, sorry, Lahavi
- 9:01Raya. I mean, there are banan for
- 9:03yuhus or for marriages. We have to there's an extra
- 9:06komra and you have to bring proof with adieu the Akharka and
- 9:11only afterwards Yisa Yisa elite. Then she can marry Shamala ASU
- 9:17the Yuhasin. But because Khazal made a
- 9:20homeroom, we're not going to go by the, you know, the bare bones
- 9:24halacha. Mika Aydin.
- 9:26OK, fine. Let's this is more of a based in
- 9:28issue anyway, so let's go to Yud Aleph Misha Haya Misha.
- 9:35This is the yeah Misha Haya Musaq B Israel.
- 9:38A person is is known to be Jewish Shamar need kayarti beni
- 9:44levain atsmi the Yeshua banim Eno nahman alabanim.
- 9:52So now this person he says he's a moksak, that he was Jewish and
- 9:58he says by the way, I actually was born as a non Jew and I
- 10:03converted by myself in the previous if you said I converted
- 10:07with the basin. So that was Pesha asar Pesha
- 10:10here he's telling you I converted all by myself.
- 10:14No one converted me. So then what does that mean?
- 10:17It means he wasn't converted well, but he was already a
- 10:20moksaq. But you saw.
- 10:22So what do we say if and he has children.
- 10:27So we say like this, he can well here, let me just keep reading
- 10:34the the Schochen Oracle say so he's not believed on his
- 10:38children. He can't ruin somebody else's
- 10:40life. Aval Neman al Atsmal he could we
- 10:45do believe him for his own sake. But why?
- 10:50In other words, we do hold Aynadas's quoted in the in, in
- 10:53the Shah Rambam Lumar Aynadam may seem at Otsma Russia person
- 10:57cannot make himself a Russian. So on one level we don't, we
- 11:02really don't believe him. However, a person has the power
- 11:06by doing what? By saying what he's saying.
- 11:09But we see this another Allah lashavi nashi khatika de isura.
- 11:14He makes himself asser again. What's the KOA?
- 11:18Is it mithin Nader mithin asser? Whatever it is, it's a whole
- 11:21separate topic, SER Gavra. OK, whatever it is, the point is
- 11:26it does work to make himself asser the asarbhavat Issa he now
- 11:32because he made himself asar, it's asar for him to marry, to
- 11:37marry a girl, a Jewish girl, because he's a goi.
- 11:41He he made himself Ki illu a goi.
- 11:43In other words, halakhi. We're going to treat him as a
- 11:47Jew, but we're also going to say it's in there's an isser that he
- 11:51created for him to marry a Jewish girl.
- 11:58So for sure if he gives Kedushin, if it's if it's not,
- 12:01yeah, as long as it's Kedushin Kal right, then for sure it's
- 12:04100% Kedushin AAD Shahid baubithne betan until he does
- 12:10fila in front of Beisden and the Shahid also adds and if he
- 12:16marries a with a bass coin, what's the case?
- 12:20Whatever it is, he's not, he doesn't apostle her because if
- 12:26she's with a Jew without then it's then she she could become a
- 12:32grusha, but she's not like a khala or zona zona.
- 12:37But if it's he if but if she's with a goy now she can never
- 12:43marry a coin. So this person can't possible
- 12:48her also can't possible anybody else is the is the the point
- 12:54you're saying if they're already married, then it should be they
- 12:58just has to get re go to the mikvah and they don't have to
- 13:01get a new maybe what to do with my It's a good question.
- 13:10That's OK. Let's go on to the next Salah.
- 13:15All right, this is an interesting halacha.
- 13:21OK, Kishiyavo Hagar lid gayer. There's a great Rhonda I'm going
- 13:27to quote. Maybe we'll save it for
- 13:29afterwards. OK, we're doing so.
- 13:32Kishiyavo Hagar lid gayer. Both Kim Akharov.
- 13:36Now Agir comes to convert, so we don't just take anybody and just
- 13:41convert them on the spot. We touched upon this already in
- 13:45I think it was the Ifbeth. So here Bodkin Akharov, we check
- 13:49after him. We for, you know, we have to ask
- 13:51him questions. There needs to be Kabbalah,
- 13:53Summitzvahs and all that we mentioned, but we have to do a
- 13:56little bit of research also, or a lot of research, whatever it
- 13:59is. Bodkin Akharov, we have to do
- 14:01research. Shama biglal mammal Shihito.
- 14:05It could be he's converting for ulterior motives.
- 14:07Maybe he's going to get money out of this or bishvil sarara
- 14:11shiiskala or he's he's going to get some kind of an position.
- 14:16Exactly. And the position is on the
- 14:18condition. He's Jewish, so that's why he's
- 14:20converting. Oh bipinaya pahad or he's afraid
- 14:25pahad balikanis ladat and or he's doing it out of fear for
- 14:30his life. Whatever the case is, the Ish
- 14:33who vote kin Achrav shama enav Natan B Isha Yehudid or this is
- 14:38what's probably the most common is maybe he's converting in
- 14:43order to he's converting because of a of a nice Jewish girl he
- 14:48met in college or on the street and he wants to he wants to
- 14:51marry her. So and then the parents say
- 14:54there's no way unless you convert.
- 14:56So he says, OK, so I'll convert. So he's doing it in order for
- 15:00this woman, Isha. And if we're talking about a
- 15:04woman, same thing he bought, he bought King Akhreya Shama Ina
- 15:09Ina Nathna, the bahure Israel. He found this nice, tall, dark
- 15:14and handsome rich man she wants to marry.
- 15:16And the doctor, whatever it is, is going to save all of his.
- 15:20She's this is going to save all of her financial problems.
- 15:24And so this is whatever he likes this she likes this guy,
- 15:27whatever the case is OK the IM lonim said lehem ila we don't
- 15:32find any suspicious going on they so that seems they seem
- 15:37sincere. The converts Modi imohem COVID O
- 15:41hatara Vitara shiyesh vyasyata al almehar.
- 15:45So today Shia for sure. So again, we remind them of the
- 15:49difficulties of the mitzvahs, whatever anti-Semitism in order
- 15:54to push them away a little bit right to because we don't want
- 15:59non Jews that are going to. We don't want non Jews that are
- 16:02going to convert. We don't want converts that are
- 16:04going to be wishy washy. They're going to go back.
- 16:07They're going to influence us right.
- 16:09We spoke about that. We don't want that in Kibou will
- 16:12appear. So they accept our words and
- 16:14they don't budget. They're like roots.
- 16:17No, they hope Klingon vira U otam shahaz rubia mehava, and we
- 16:21see that they want to become Jewish because they love kalyusa
- 16:24al Quraish, baraku ghanaiden, whatever it is, macablim otam.
- 16:28So then we accept them. Very good.
- 16:32VM lobatku. Now, what happens if they didn't
- 16:35do this vetting process? They had ulterior motives,
- 16:38oshalohidu, scar mitzvahs, the ocean, and we didn't warn them
- 16:43of the reward and the punishment, right?
- 16:45It's supposed to be balanced warning, right?
- 16:47So we don't if we if none of this was done, they came, they
- 16:50said we want to accept the mitzvahs and we want to want to
- 16:53convert, but we didn't do any of this vetting process, OK, and we
- 16:59didn't, right? And now, so they go to the
- 17:09mikvah and they got Mila, the mikvah, Bifinet, Shlosha,
- 17:14Idyatot in front of three regular common guys like
- 17:18ourselves. Because a Bayes, we're assuming
- 17:21a Bayesian can never, would never do such a thing.
- 17:23A Bayesian is only going to check, make sure that they're
- 17:26vetted out. And then if they, if they're
- 17:28sincere, they'll convert them. So we're talking about, I don't,
- 17:32we don't want to assume there's a bad Bayesian.
- 17:35So therefore irresponsible. So we're saying, we're saying
- 17:38that there's three random people who all right, they're going to
- 17:41they're going to take it upon themselves to convert or him.
- 17:45Harezzaguer, this is a convert. It works because there was Mila
- 17:52Tvila in front of three kosher Jews, right?
- 17:56That they're not Suleiman Haid to testify and they.
- 18:00OK, so then Harezzaguer, so this works.
- 18:03Afila Noda should be Shvilda Varhumidkar.
- 18:06Even if it's found out or they know that they're doing it for
- 18:10an ulterior motive, it still works.
- 18:14Oh, it's us. Or to convert them.
- 18:16Now we're talking about 3. Not such good people.
- 18:24Well, that's a whole that's beyond the, IT depends on the
- 18:28situation already. But if it's the Bayesian is only
- 18:33looking for sincere converts, OK, You know, how do you define
- 18:38that, right? Life is dynamic and and
- 18:43complicated and complex, OK. But that's the simple halacha is
- 18:48we push them away and we don't convert them.
- 18:49But here you had three people who did something they weren't
- 18:52supposed to, three naughty men. They came together and they
- 18:55converted such a person when they weren't supposed to.
- 18:58And sometimes it's a basin that does that, unfortunately.
- 19:01So again, I raised Aguirre. The person is a complete 100%
- 19:05Jew convert. There's no there's no
- 19:08percentages. It's all or none.
- 19:11You might have a Suffolk. That's a separate story, but
- 19:13Aguirre is Aguirre. I feel I know that should be
- 19:15shield of our humid galler Hoyo umal Vitabo yachtsa Mikhwala
- 19:19going. He's no longer non Jewish, even
- 19:22though there was an ulterior motive, the Hoshi Shimlow and we
- 19:27worry about him. I should teach Baer Tsitkatto
- 19:32until we know that he is righteous and sincere, right?
- 19:37The shot Koshishin means no matter what he's Jewish.
- 19:42But we're we don't want him. The question is should we let
- 19:46him in the community? Should we give him an Aaliyah?
- 19:48Maybe Whatever the question is, that's what Koshishin is.
- 19:51But Philo, because even Khazar alvad alilin, he does the worst
- 19:57of Eros. He does pure of Odezarra, right?
- 20:00No one argues if this is of Odezarna, he's doing of
- 20:02Odezarra. Hurray who Kyusra.
- 20:04He's still 100% Jewish. He's a Jewish mumar, but she Ki
- 20:10dusha Ki dushin. And if he is makadeh a woman,
- 20:14then she's stuck there. That's a.
- 20:16It's a. It's a binding Ki dushin,
- 20:18binding Eros haga. Right now, the taz also points
- 20:25out that wait, what is this going on?
- 20:30Khazar al is what is that going on?
- 20:34If you look Khazar Alvad al Lilian.
- 20:37Oh, he points out and and in the middle stage when you first
- 20:41convert him, there wasn't, it wasn't clear that he he didn't
- 20:45go back to do Abbatezar the first day.
- 20:47So until he does Avada Zara, until he's established as a
- 20:50Muammar, then all of his wine, for example, is kosher.
- 20:56And because when he first converted, he still has a
- 20:58Cheskas kashrus as a proper convert, you might be
- 21:02suspicious, but he's not considered a Muammar unless you
- 21:05catch him and le Mafreya, We say all of his wine that he touched
- 21:09was kosher. We don't say Le Mafreya.
- 21:11It's a problem doesn't undo his because that's the whole point
- 21:14Ki Dusha of Ki dushin. There's nothing le Mafreya going
- 21:17on if you don't undo now we'll see.
- 21:20There might be a caveat to that. If it's a Qatar smoke, then his
- 21:26mother. I don't know about that.
- 21:30I don't know about I don't. OK, well, we'll see that after
- 21:34show me after I got you sell Muammar Sha ASA chuva Eno Tsari
- 21:41elite ball rock Mederabanand Dharma says that when you sell
- 21:45goes completely off the deep end and he wants to come back.
- 21:49Then we accept him. That's Tavila.
- 21:50There's that's he says that's it's only a Mederabanan.
- 21:54I think Minhag, not sure, I could think so.
- 21:57But anyways, it's only mederabanan.
- 22:00OK, let's keep going. Yeesh.
- 22:03Lo litubo ulakaba Allah divre kaveros, bifinne shlocha and
- 22:09such a person should, I don't know what's done, but should go
- 22:13in front of a baisden. And he doesn't, he doesn't need
- 22:16to convert, he's Jewish, right? That's why it's just don't be
- 22:18the right here whatsoever. But he should accept upon
- 22:21himself divre kaveros, which means to be strictly religious.
- 22:25Exactly what that means I'm not sure.
- 22:26For art context and the mission in De Mai, I think it's Beis
- 22:30Gilmore where there is talking about keeping the Humras of
- 22:35Taras, but it means to be a Hager.
- 22:40Exactly. I mean it's strictly religious,
- 22:42OK. I'm not going to get into
- 22:43politics so you don't. That's OK.
- 22:46Just wanted to point out a couple of things.
- 22:49One of them is we've got a couple minutes and then we'll
- 22:52try and finish on and the next one, the next class.
- 22:56So I really want to just point out from the Ramba, fascinating
- 22:59Ramba Mysuri BA Yudhimlu Alaka, the last three halakhs only you
- 23:05dial it to Ted Zion. So he points out that Shimshon
- 23:09who was the savior of Klaestra, right?
- 23:11He was one of the SHOF team. He's one of the Siddiqui Shlomu
- 23:14Amelak, who's the malek of Klaestra and he was also called
- 23:19Yadid Hashan. But the Pasak says that they
- 23:22married non Jews Nachriot. So then so the Rambam says soda
- 23:28Davarka. What what is going on?
- 23:30He says the Torah is using what's the right word?
- 23:35They're they're using a word that's in it's not accurate to
- 23:39to express something in other words.
- 23:42They they these are these are Don juice perboli.
- 23:49I don't know, blanking on the right word, not euphemism.
- 23:53OK, you can decide whatever it is, you'll understand in a
- 23:56moment very clearly the these were non Jews, right that they
- 24:00converted, but it was 100% kosher conversion Bediyevid,
- 24:07whatever. Yeah, 100% kosher Bediyevid.
- 24:11They're 100% converts, but khatrilla, it was usser to
- 24:15convert them. And that's why the Tara speaks
- 24:20very derogatory in a bad in a bad lush, negatively because of
- 24:25what they did. In other words, they use a word
- 24:27that's not accurate in order to negatively portray what they did
- 24:30because each of them had an ulterior motive.
- 24:32They all had an ulterior. Yeah, they wanted to marry this,
- 24:35this Jewish man or money, power, whatever it is, and they did it.
- 24:40Lechaim Shane Ish, they did it. They converted because they
- 24:45wanted to marry Dafka Shimshon or Shlomo.
- 24:49And that was us. And the the proper Baizdin would
- 24:52never have converted them. So therefore, what do they do?
- 24:56Shimshon and Shlomo? It took three guys off the
- 25:00street and they said, you know, that's at least be kosher, kasha
- 25:03lahaye. And they said let's make them
- 25:06religious. So they said, yeah, you want to
- 25:08be, you want to keep the mitzvahs, You want to be Jewish.
- 25:09Yeah, yeah. OK.
- 25:10So they went to the mitzvah and they're all done.
- 25:12And that was cabal de mitzvahs. And now they're 100% Jewish and
- 25:15you can't go back. And so that is why the Torah
- 25:19refers to them like that. They're not the Garrett Sedek,
- 25:22but they are. But they are he also uses the
- 25:26word hoshi mahim afterwards. Question is should be should we
- 25:29be dokhin otam or not Dokhin Otam his I don't think he talks
- 25:35about it. Those are the two things he says
- 25:36here. OK.
- 25:40And then he says at the end. So we see, even though Hokhiya
- 25:43sofa and Alt he Latan, because we saw that they did do a
- 25:47varezara and they did bring altars.
- 25:50Still they were they were Jewish and fascinating is also a
- 25:54midrash. It's brought down I think in the
- 25:57Kuyakar or I saw it in in a book, I think called Ishay
- 26:01Tanakh. Anyway, the Uriah Kiti, who is
- 26:06Uriah Kiti fascinated Midrash. So he so we know that he was the
- 26:10one who first married Bachava, right.
- 26:13But what's this? What's the story behind that
- 26:16story? So when Davida Malak killed
- 26:20Koliak, he wanted to cut off his his head but he couldn't cut the
- 26:23net because there was armor there.
- 26:26And Uriah Kiti had this special, I don't know key or a way to
- 26:29open up the armor. Only he knew how to do it.
- 26:32He was, he was a non Jew. Uriah Kiti, I don't know Kiti or
- 26:36Plishti or from there. He was friends with Goliad.
- 26:39He was in, he was in the army, he was on Goliad side.
- 26:44And David Amela was trying to get off this helmet so he can
- 26:49cut off his head. And Uriah Kiti was there.
- 26:52Nuriyakiti said, I know how to do it.
- 26:54I'll, I'll open up. I'll take it off on one
- 26:57condition. You let me marry one of the
- 26:59daughters of the Jewish of a Jewish daughter.
- 27:02So David Amelak was like, OK, fine, you open up and I'll find
- 27:04you a girl to marry. No problem.
- 27:06And Koschbark was upset at David Amelak that he was so callous
- 27:10with the Jewish girl that you're just going to take this guy and
- 27:13just, you know, guarantee I'm a Jewish girl.
- 27:16So the punishment is that David Hamelich is going to have a wife
- 27:23and he's not he won't get to her until she is first married to
- 27:27uriahiti. So Uriahiti and so bat shava was
- 27:32meant was destined for David Hamelich, but it had she had to
- 27:35go through uriahiti first as a punishment.
- 27:39And so anyways, so how is this relevant?
- 27:43Why am I mentioning all this? Because it's a question how can
- 27:46because we assume he converted Uriyakhiti, right.
- 27:50I mean, we know it's based on get it and all this and that
- 27:53Gamar is so he converted and that's either it was either
- 27:58inappropriate conversion because it was the shame, but it depends
- 28:04how you understand it could be he wanted to marry a Jewish.
- 28:06See the shame Ishit is a problem when you want this specific
- 28:10girl. You're just she's cute, you like
- 28:13her, you get along and you don't care about the religion here.
- 28:16It could be why did he want a Jewish girl?
- 28:18Because he wanted to convert. It could be he was more sincere
- 28:22than than you think he was. So anyway, so that's that's that
- 28:26and we have to stop. OK.