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Best of Chuck in the Morning 7-27 · Chuck in the Morning

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  Speaker 1: Cogo is fourteenth through the sixteen at the club.
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  Speaker 2: It's don't call me Ridge details at Boeingclassic dot Com.
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  Speaker 2: Now here's Chuck in the Morning on your home for
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  Speaker 2: the Super Bowl Champion twelve man Sports Radio ninety three
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  Speaker 2: point three kJ r FM.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, I liked it.
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  Speaker 3: Good morning, and welcome here to the radio program. It
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  Speaker 3: is Chuck and Buck in the Morning. Sports Radio ninety
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  Speaker 3: three point three kJ R FM. Training camp coverage begins
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  Speaker 3: this morning here on KJAR and we are excited to
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  Speaker 3: have you with us. It is a beautiful morning out
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  Speaker 3: here at the Virginia Mason Athletics Center and Renton, Washington.
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  Speaker 3: Ashley Ryan's back of the studio. My name is Chuck Powell,
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  Speaker 3: and we are happy to have with us. It's like
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  Speaker 3: kicking an old school right from the beginning of the show.
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  Speaker 3: Here Millan is going to be joining us pretty much
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  Speaker 3: all week long here from the Virginia Mason Athletic Center,
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  Speaker 3: and here he is good to see. Yeah, but QB
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  Speaker 3: one is here. Yeah, I love it.
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  Speaker 1: It's uh, you know, bring back some memories of training
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  Speaker 1: camp's past. Yeah, it used to be the fourth of
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  Speaker 1: July when you're watching the fireworks, you just kind of think,
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  Speaker 1: oh boy, it's just right around the corner. Now. They
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  Speaker 1: start a little later in July, but a lot of
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  Speaker 1: excitement here obviously with Hard Knocks and being the defending champions.
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  Speaker 3: So Hard Knocks took our parking spaces. I mean we
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  Speaker 3: got better ones. Don't get me wrong, but that's why
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  Speaker 3: we can't park by the train tracks like we usually do,
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  Speaker 3: because those trailers out there are are all hard no.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, well we're upgraded for the moment.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: So yeah, we're a little closer at a little closer.
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  Speaker 1: It used to be a couple of hundred yard walk
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  Speaker 1: now it's just a hundred. Yeah. So we got our
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  Speaker 1: own spaces, Yeah we are.
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  Speaker 3: I mean we're living fatuck. Greg Bell's got his own space,
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  Speaker 3: got his name on it.
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  Speaker 1: Bell. That's how powerful he's become in this industry. Someday,
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  Speaker 1: if we could just get to Greg's level, Yeah, that's
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  Speaker 1: all I aspire before I draw my last breath. Can
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  Speaker 1: I just have a space next to Greg? Well, even
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  Speaker 1: if it's a four steps farther, that's right. Yeah, I'll
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  Speaker 1: tell you what.
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  Speaker 3: I'm gonna make sure I kiss up to that guy.
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  Speaker 1: He's got the secret sauce right now.
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  Speaker 3: Well, great to have you all with It's great to
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  Speaker 3: have you here. We've got to all sorts of things
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  Speaker 3: that we are going to talk about. But what is
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  Speaker 3: what happens to you as the football player when you
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  Speaker 3: report to training camp, even as a media member these
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  Speaker 3: many years later, when you show up for the first
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  Speaker 3: time here and you see the football field all painted
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  Speaker 3: and you know it's not exactly football weather right now,
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  Speaker 3: but there's there's a taste of it in the air.
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  Speaker 3: What is duty does it it changed your old body complex.
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  Speaker 1: I played twenty five years of football at all levels,
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  Speaker 1: and I think I met I could count on one
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  Speaker 1: hand the guys that I've met that actually like football practice.
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  Speaker 1: And that doesn't mean you don't like football, doesn't mean
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  Speaker 1: down love football, but just football practiced by its nature
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  Speaker 1: is not fun. And and so I think that there's
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  Speaker 1: a excitement. You know, you have to go through this
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  Speaker 1: period of time to get to the regular season. It's
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  Speaker 1: just it's just it's it's a necessary process. You know.
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  Speaker 1: For quarterbacks, you're wearing the red jersey. You're not gonna
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  Speaker 1: be touched, so there's not the physical nature of it.
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  Speaker 1: For the most of the guys. The rest of them. Uh,
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  Speaker 1: there's a physical component to this that can be pretty brutal.
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  Speaker 1: Now you don't hit today like you used to hit.
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  Speaker 1: But but there's a lot of running whenever. I remember
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  Speaker 1: a linebacker one time handing me a Tabasco sauce bottle
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  Speaker 1: and he said, well, you open this, and his hands
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  Speaker 1: were so swollen and he couldn't you know, he couldn't
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  Speaker 1: open a Tabasco sauce bottle. But you know, you don't
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  Speaker 1: even go to you don't even go to the training
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  Speaker 1: room for that. You're just you know, you're gonna hit
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  Speaker 1: in the morning, then you're gonna have a lunch, you're
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  Speaker 1: gonna have a an hour nappen. You get up and
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  Speaker 1: you're gonna go hit in the afternoon. Because the first
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  Speaker 1: two weeks was all pads, double days, hitting all both sessions.
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  Speaker 1: It was just kind of a meek grinder in terms
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  Speaker 1: of of, uh, you know, testing you now. A few
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  Speaker 1: years prior to me, there had been Jack petera and
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  Speaker 1: like they used to not have water, which seems unconstable
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  Speaker 1: and and and that was for me, right, there's no water,
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  Speaker 1: and and so we've evolved a little bit and the
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  Speaker 1: players have realized that they have some levers. So they
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  Speaker 1: have collectively bargained away the two days. They've collectively bargained
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  Speaker 1: away all but I think four U padded practices days.
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  Speaker 1: So they were a long way away from the junction boys,
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  Speaker 1: you know, like I understand that. Okay, uh, the first
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  Speaker 1: segment and now we already got the guy saying my day.
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  Speaker 1: I look, I I freely admit that the players, you know,
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  Speaker 1: they're big, they're stronger. If you had a time machine, Uh,
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  Speaker 1: these teams auld kick our ass from you know, thirty
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  Speaker 1: years ago. I think that's more true in the trench's chuck.
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  Speaker 1: But you know, just look at a size and weight.
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  Speaker 1: All you have to do is look at a size
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  Speaker 1: and wait. But you're gonna have a hard time telling
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  Speaker 1: me that the John Lway and Barry Sanders and Jerry
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  Speaker 1: Rice couldn't play today, Oh, no doubt.
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  Speaker 4: You know.
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  Speaker 1: But I think that when you look at the size
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  Speaker 1: of the lines, where three hundred pounds would be rare,
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  Speaker 1: now under three hundred pounds is very rare, extra, you know.
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  Speaker 1: And so so just if that's all you did is
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  Speaker 1: just did that calculus, you'd you kind of go this
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  Speaker 1: year is probably better than uh, you know, prior years.
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  Speaker 1: All right, Well that I mean that's the beaudeo of
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  Speaker 1: being a.
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  Speaker 3: Sports fan and a sports talk shows and everything else
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  Speaker 3: is the comparing of the eras and understanding that there
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  Speaker 3: are differences. It's like I always said, with Babe Ruth, Yes,
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  Speaker 3: I understand he could not hit today with that giant
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  Speaker 3: hitch in his swing. They throw too hard. But there's
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  Speaker 3: no denying that Babe Ruth had a natural ability to
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  Speaker 3: hit a baseball, and had he lived in an era
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  Speaker 3: of the nutrition and the coaching, I think he would
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  Speaker 3: have figured it out. Yeah, I think he would have
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  Speaker 3: changed it. Yeah, I think there's no doubt. I mean,
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  Speaker 3: you have to, you have to.
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  Speaker 1: You know. It's almost like, hey, Jack Nicholas was hitting
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  Speaker 1: with a person who wood head. You know, there was
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  Speaker 1: probably two hundred and thirty you know CC's and and
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  Speaker 1: with a steel shaft. You know, you give him a
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  Speaker 1: four and sixty cc you know graphight, uh head with
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  Speaker 1: the graphite shaft and whatever they're putting in things now,
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  Speaker 1: and let him have the training. Then Okay, how far
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  Speaker 1: could he hit them? Because because he'd hit a little
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  Speaker 1: lot of ball with that that that wood head, you know,
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  Speaker 1: he he'd just steam this thing, you know, and he
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  Speaker 1: was you know, you can build a house between his
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  Speaker 1: ball and everybody else. That was a blot of ball,
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  Speaker 1: you know, and so you you could assume you puld
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  Speaker 1: give him access to the training, the equipment. I think
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  Speaker 1: that applies a lot of sports, and I think it,
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  Speaker 1: you know, for for Ruth. Yeah, the guy hit three
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  Speaker 1: forty two. You know that's a that's a good way.
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  Speaker 1: You know, you want more home runs than most teams. Yeah, yeah, right, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: but everybody thinks of the power and maybe you think
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  Speaker 1: of the strikeouts. His career batting average three forty two.
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  Speaker 1: So his uh, his ability just God given ability. In
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  Speaker 1: modern times, there's no question he would be an elite.
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  Speaker 3: Hitter and in the words of Ty Cobb, ran pretty
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  Speaker 3: good for a fat man.
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  Speaker 1: Uh.
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  Speaker 3: It's you Millan, Chuck Powell with you here, day number
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  Speaker 3: one of training camp.
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  Speaker 1: Our coverage begins.
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  Speaker 3: He kind of like a fat right, yeah, a little
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  Speaker 3: debutante steps Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's like he he kind of had to go
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  Speaker 1: to the bathroom. Probably let me get around so I
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  Speaker 1: can go number two. It's quickly as man ate.
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  Speaker 3: A lot of hot dogs probably did. They can't knock
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  Speaker 3: it in the fourth. Yeah, you had a beer in
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  Speaker 3: the fourth. All right, Well, let's talk about it from
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  Speaker 3: this standpoint, because I mean, this is my first training camp.
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  Speaker 1: I moved here.
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  Speaker 3: After the one yard line play. I didn't mean to
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  Speaker 3: bring that up this morning, but I was like, how
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  Speaker 3: do I get around this? Uh, that's when I moved
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  Speaker 3: after that. Moved here a week after that Super Bowl.
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  Speaker 3: That was a fun time. Everybody was in a you
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  Speaker 3: were acquitted of that charge. Everybody was in a great
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  Speaker 3: mood when I came to town. I'll tell you that.
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  Speaker 3: So I have not covered a training camp where the
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  Speaker 3: champs are here. The champs are here, and that's what
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  Speaker 3: we've got going on. Uh, we got a training we
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  Speaker 3: got champ camp here today. It's the first season that
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  Speaker 3: I've covered in which a world champion is returning to
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  Speaker 3: uh start defense of their crown. I know you've got
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  Speaker 3: some experience with this, being around a camp where.
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  Speaker 1: That has occurred. What are the differences between a normal
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  Speaker 1: training camp and you're coming back as a champ camp. Well,
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  Speaker 1: I got traded to the Cowboys after they won their
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  Speaker 1: first Super Bowl. In that little mini dynasty they won
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  Speaker 1: three or four called the Jerry Jones Here, I don't
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  Speaker 1: want to say Jimmy Johnson, because Barry Switzer won the
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  Speaker 1: last of those. But you know the Jimmy Johnson, Jerry Jones,
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  Speaker 1: and but Troy Aikman had back surgery in that offseason.
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  Speaker 1: So I came in and for the first three four
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  Speaker 1: weeks of camp I took all the reps with the
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  Speaker 1: number one offense of the defending champions. They had beat
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  Speaker 1: the Bills the year before, and so now I had
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  Speaker 1: not been on the team prior, so I don't have
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  Speaker 1: any comparison from how they had been. But I can
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  Speaker 1: tell you now again, this is a different age that
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  Speaker 1: this is prior to free agency. This is the what
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  Speaker 1: was termed player indemnity, that after your contract was up,
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  Speaker 1: you were still your rights were still held by that team.
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  Speaker 1: Joe Montana doesn't matter if he's a ninth year in
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  Speaker 1: the league. When his contract expires with the forty nine ers,
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  Speaker 1: he is the property of the forty nine ers, no
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  Speaker 1: free agency whatsoever. And so well, how does that impact
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  Speaker 1: that a guy like Jimmy Johnson could be as red
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  Speaker 1: ass as he wanted. There's nothing guys could do right,
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  Speaker 1: And but they also also had this the component that
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  Speaker 1: everybody wanted to be a Dallas Cowboy. Everybody in the
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  Speaker 1: league either want to be a raider or a cowboy.
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  Speaker 1: So once you got to the Cowboys and you experienced
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  Speaker 1: that success and the way the Cowboys culturally impact the
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  Speaker 1: region and what have you, and just the the the
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  Speaker 1: allure of, you know, being a cowboy with the star
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  Speaker 1: in the head. You know, players were dying to be
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  Speaker 1: on that team and to stay on that team. So
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  Speaker 1: Jimmy Johnson could crack whatever whip he wanted. And the
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  Speaker 1: very first meeting, very first meeting, I just expected it
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  Speaker 1: to be like just kind of hey, what's going you know,
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  Speaker 1: like first day of school, you know, on first day
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  Speaker 1: of school, they don't give you any homework. Yeah, you know,
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  Speaker 1: the kind of grab ass And yeah, right, I thought
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  Speaker 1: it was gonna be kind of a grab ass. And
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  Speaker 1: he was just right from the jump. And he had
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  Speaker 1: an industrial psychology major from Arkansas and so he was
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  Speaker 1: into psychology and and he just said, I don't want
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  Speaker 1: to hear anything about Hey, I'll make the play, you know, coach,
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  Speaker 1: I'll make the play on Sunday. He's bull f and
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  Speaker 1: you know s and he said, you make the play
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  Speaker 1: right now today, you know, and that was that was
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  Speaker 1: mini camp practice, the first mini camp practice, and and
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  Speaker 1: then the training camp got elevated even more. And so
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  Speaker 1: so he was he he he just had the temperature
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  Speaker 1: on that team, uh dialed in. He was just screaming
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  Speaker 1: all the time, ferocious hitting. These what's called nine on
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  Speaker 1: seven drills, which is all runs. Both the offense and
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  Speaker 1: the defense knows there's no passing. It's all run. It's
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  Speaker 1: it's just a meeker. It's just like how do you
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  Speaker 1: make hamburger. That's how you make it, Like for twenty
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  Speaker 1: four minute session, all runs, just incredible hitting. So he was, so,
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  Speaker 1: how would that apply to this? I don't I don't
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  Speaker 1: think Mike McDonald is cut in that mold. He's capable,
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  Speaker 1: but I don't know if But if he were to say,
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  Speaker 1: emulate Jimmy Johnson with a modern flare that fits his personality,
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  Speaker 1: then he and I'm just saying he's going to do it,
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  Speaker 1: but he would be he would be like have a
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  Speaker 1: very stern eye on complacency, almost like going to being
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  Speaker 1: more of a red ass than he was twelve months ago.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know if that's his approach, but if Jimmy Johnson,
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  Speaker 1: this is my conjecture, if he were coaching now, he
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  Speaker 1: would still find a way within today's constraints of the hitting.
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  Speaker 1: Within those constraints, he would still find a way to
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  Speaker 1: say I'm looking my eyes, my eyes are wide open,
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  Speaker 1: my intenders are sky high, looking around for even the
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  Speaker 1: slightest shred of complacency, because I'm gonna nip that in
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  Speaker 1: the butt. Yeah. Maybe. And there's and there's some stories
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  Speaker 1: we can get into specifically about some of the drills
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  Speaker 1: that he did. And it's the trade. It was. It
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  Speaker 1: was incredibly intense.
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  Speaker 3: Maybe Mike's not a whip cracker, but I'll say this,
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  Speaker 3: I really like a couple of.
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  Speaker 1: The things he did. This office. He'son number one.
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  Speaker 3: He made sure that we don't use the phrase let's
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  Speaker 3: run it back. Yeah, he got rid of that this office.
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  Speaker 3: I mean that was a message. That was a message like,
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  Speaker 3: first of all, it's a tired ass cliche phrase. Now
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  Speaker 3: I'm sick of hearing it myself. Secondly, he's just gonna
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  Speaker 3: wipe it out because that's everybody's crutch after they won
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  Speaker 3: a championship to say something like that. So he just
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  Speaker 3: lotted that phrase out of camp to the point where
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  Speaker 3: if people say it outside.
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  Speaker 1: The players are like, no, no, no, we don't say that,
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  Speaker 1: you know.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, And then the second thing he did was the
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  Speaker 3: ring ceremony to not let that linger into the season.
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  Speaker 3: We're going to have a ring ceremony, like nobody said,
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  Speaker 3: We're gonna have a big, giant party. We're gonna celebrate,
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  Speaker 3: We're gonna get dressed up, we're gonna invite wives. We're
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  Speaker 3: gonna and have a big party about it. And then
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  Speaker 3: as soon as you get your rings, we're not gonna
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  Speaker 3: think about that. We accomplished something last year that's not
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  Speaker 3: gonna pop up in the middle of our season or
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  Speaker 3: our preparation for our season. Yeah, a couple of couple
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  Speaker 3: of things that are different. But I think that even
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  Speaker 3: though it's not whip cracking, it sort of emulates what
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  Speaker 3: you're talking about, and that is no complacency around here.
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  Speaker 3: As soon as we report to camp, we are about
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  Speaker 3: winning the Super Bowl. I don't care what happened a
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  Speaker 3: year ago. Yeah, I think, Chuck. The ring ceremonies have
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  Speaker 3: kind of come into vogue. I know, you know, the
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  Speaker 3: Patriots and Robert Craft would have these big ceremonies in
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  Speaker 3: the spring and have a big party like that. So
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  Speaker 3: I don't I don't think he's breaking any ground in
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  Speaker 3: any material sense with with the ring ceremony.
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  Speaker 1: But but the the the whole run it back, you know,
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  Speaker 1: you think of like the imagery that wait a minute,
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  Speaker 1: we're trying to We're gonna put the car in reverse
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  Speaker 1: and go back and and try to attain what we
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  Speaker 1: had last year. You know, I think there's some some
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  Speaker 1: the symbolism in the semantics of that, and and so no,
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  Speaker 1: we're running it forward. I mean, if you you take
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  Speaker 1: any any every single club in the NFL has team
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  Speaker 1: photos somewhere, and the Super Bowl champions. There's no Super
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  Speaker 1: Bowl champion in history where you look at the team
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  Speaker 1: photo of the Super Bowl champion and then you look
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  Speaker 1: at the next year and it's the same photo. Even
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  Speaker 1: back in the I I used the term player indemnity
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  Speaker 1: the Packers, they won the first two Super Bowls. I
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  Speaker 1: guarantee you that the second team photo of year two
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  Speaker 1: was different than year one. Now, Bart Starr was in
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  Speaker 1: there and Paul Horning was in there. I'm not saying
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  Speaker 1: that the the nucleus wasn't there, but there were. It
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  Speaker 1: was not the same team. And so you reckon this
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  Speaker 1: isn't the same team, so you have to you know.
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  Speaker 1: Some of the metaphors is, hey, when you drive, what
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  Speaker 1: what is the the number of square inches of the
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  Speaker 1: rear view mirror as a ratio to the windshield. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: there's a purpose for that. You should you should glance
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  Speaker 1: at your rear view mirror. You should look acutely in
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  Speaker 1: the front mirror because it's a lot or in the
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  Speaker 1: front windshield because its a lot bigger, you know, you know,
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  Speaker 1: and there's you know, and and if you think in
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  Speaker 1: those terms, yeah, well glance at the rear view mirror.
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  Speaker 1: There's nothing wrong with looking back, but let's look more
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  Speaker 1: forward and running it forward, like hey, we're a new team.
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  Speaker 1: It's just it's just ways to connect that. Maybe a
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  Speaker 1: switch for a player could go, oh, okay, I get that,
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  Speaker 1: I get that. We're we're you know, we're we're running
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  Speaker 1: it forward. And so I like the the wording and
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  Speaker 1: and the symbolism captured in that phrase. We just like him, right, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: whatever he does. Raise your hand. If you don't like McCone,
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  Speaker 1: like McCone, okay, now if you have your hand up
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  Speaker 1: right now, you're an idiot. You are a fool. Find
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  Speaker 1: a therapist. Now work out your problems, keep your hand
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  Speaker 1: down and get your life squared away.
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  Speaker 3: Training Camp coverage beginning right now. Hugh Mellin's is going
• 17:52
  Speaker 3: to be with us for most of this first week
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  Speaker 3: right here at our set uh uh in the mornings,
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  Speaker 3: and we couldn't.
• 17:58
  Speaker 1: Be happier about that. We got a lot to covered today.
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  Speaker 3: Let's find out what is on tap for the rest
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  Speaker 3: Oh everything just sounds so tidy, nice neat this morning. Well,
• 18:27
  Speaker 3: it is Champ Camp.
• 18:29
  Speaker 1: The Champs are here.
• 18:30
  Speaker 3: As we get things going, and we do have Abe
• 18:33
  Speaker 3: Lucas joining us today at seven forty five. Also, Greg
• 18:36
  Speaker 3: Bell will be with us at seven oh five every single.
• 18:40
  Speaker 1: Day for the rest of his life.
• 18:41
  Speaker 3: So with his new parking spot and everything, they'll probably
• 18:45
  Speaker 3: come in with a big head this year, but we'll
• 18:47
  Speaker 3: try to keep him grounded. We still are waiting on
• 18:50
  Speaker 3: a deal with Devin Witherspoon. We'll find out more from
• 18:53
  Speaker 3: Greg about that. Cooper Cup apparently had a sensational Day
• 18:56
  Speaker 3: number two yesterday of training camp Day number one, Horton
• 19:00
  Speaker 3: seemed to be getting a lot of the attention in
• 19:02
  Speaker 3: the headlines. And really the owners aren't even allowed to
• 19:06
  Speaker 3: be in the building just yet, and so not much
• 19:10
  Speaker 3: of an impact new ownership has had on training camp
• 19:14
  Speaker 3: or anything within the building here, and so we'll talk
• 19:18
  Speaker 3: more about that.
• 19:18
  Speaker 1: Later on as well.
• 19:19
  Speaker 3: And of course hard Knocks. I had to make sure
• 19:22
  Speaker 3: that I, you know, cleaned up a little bit because
• 19:25
  Speaker 3: obviously there's a good chance I'm probably gonna get my
• 19:28
  Speaker 3: own television show out of this, So you know, I
• 19:31
  Speaker 3: didn't want I didn't want to drop the ball at
• 19:33
  Speaker 3: the one yard line here. Outside of the Seahawks, disturbing
• 19:41
  Speaker 3: news from Kyle Shanahan. He was involved in a car
• 19:44
  Speaker 3: accident where he apparently got banged up enough that he's
• 19:48
  Speaker 3: going to miss some time with the San Francisco forty
• 19:51
  Speaker 3: nine Ors, So bad news on that front. Also from
• 19:54
  Speaker 3: the Arizona Cardinals, Jacobi Prissette. Brissette has a brand new deal.
• 19:58
  Speaker 3: He didn't get the big monster, you know, thirty five
• 20:01
  Speaker 3: million dollar deal that I think he was seeking. But
• 20:04
  Speaker 3: he did get a pay raise. He got up to
• 20:05
  Speaker 3: fifteen million to be the starting quarterback for the Arizona Cardinals.
• 20:10
  Speaker 3: Lebron James. That's starting to soak in. I think in
• 20:13
  Speaker 3: Philadelphia that Lebron James is a seventy sixer. We may
• 20:17
  Speaker 3: have some time talk about that a little bit later on. Also,
• 20:21
  Speaker 3: WNBA All Star weekend came to a close. I don't
• 20:24
  Speaker 3: understand how they even choose the teams, but Don Malonga
• 20:28
  Speaker 3: did have twelve points Saturday in the w NBA All
• 20:32
  Speaker 3: Star Game. The MLS, for whatever reason, is on an
• 20:35
  Speaker 3: All Star break this week.
• 20:38
  Speaker 1: Soccer's really strange. Did you not just have a month off?
• 20:43
  Speaker 3: Did we not just have the biggest All Star Game ever,
• 20:47
  Speaker 3: All Star Tournament? And yet they played two matches and
• 20:50
  Speaker 3: go on a week break? What that f is going on? Finally,
• 20:56
  Speaker 3: Mariners went over the Texas Rangers six to four, and
• 21:00
  Speaker 3: my goodness, did they pull one out of the fire.
• 21:02
  Speaker 1: Thank you.
• 21:03
  Speaker 3: Dom can Zone. After losing Friday and Saturday and trailing
• 21:08
  Speaker 3: most Sunday, it felt quite bleak. Dom Canzone hits a
• 21:13
  Speaker 3: three run homer to put him up for good. On Sunday,
• 21:16
  Speaker 3: and so hope remains alive for the Mariners. It was
• 21:20
  Speaker 3: feeling awfully bleak at one point Sunday afternoon, so we'll
• 21:25
  Speaker 3: get into that next Mariners Morning after comes your way
• 21:29
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  Speaker 5: This is fair and it rolls into the corner. Julio
• 21:54
  Speaker 5: is into third, being awave, Tom headed to the plate.
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  Speaker 1: And the Mariners tack on a little insurance.
• 22:00
  Speaker 5: Don Canzone call game here in Texas.
• 22:06
  Speaker 1: Little streaming sure with that call, but.
• 22:08
  Speaker 3: Nonetheless right Aaron Goldsmith on the call Mariners TV, Mariners
• 22:14
  Speaker 3: do pull it out. It was looking rather bleak, two outs,
• 22:18
  Speaker 3: top of the seventh, down to and at risk of
• 22:21
  Speaker 3: losing three straight games to the Texas Rangers in this
• 22:25
  Speaker 3: biggest series of the season so far, and dom Canzone
• 22:30
  Speaker 3: comes through with a three run homer later in RBI
• 22:33
  Speaker 3: double to put the team up two and they go
• 22:35
  Speaker 3: on to a six to four much needed win on
• 22:39
  Speaker 3: Sunday and now have a chance to split this four
• 22:42
  Speaker 3: game series. George Kirby getting the start today at eleven
• 22:45
  Speaker 3: thirty five for the MS against Kumar Rocker, right hander
• 22:49
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• 23:15
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• 23:23
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  Speaker 3: it is Champ Camp day number three. Of Seahawks training
• 23:55
  Speaker 3: camp twenty twenty six. We're still waiting on a Devin Witherspoon,
• 23:59
  Speaker 3: de Cooper Cup and Tory Horton both made a lot
• 24:04
  Speaker 3: of people write about them on Saturday and Sunday here
• 24:07
  Speaker 3: at training camp, and hard Knox is here. They've got
• 24:11
  Speaker 3: three trailers taking up our old parking spots. But that's good, HBO,
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  Speaker 1: Need and so.
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  Speaker 3: That's sort of the buzz here at the training camp.
• 24:25
  Speaker 3: Some other headlines Mariners winning six to four, as I mentioned,
• 24:29
  Speaker 3: over the Texas Rangers, and then we also had over
• 24:33
  Speaker 3: the weekend WNBA All Star Weekend, Don Malonga twelve points
• 24:38
  Speaker 3: in her first ever All Star Game appearance, and now
• 24:42
  Speaker 3: they get ready for the second half. The MLS, for
• 24:45
  Speaker 3: whatever reason, is having an All Star break this week
• 24:47
  Speaker 3: because I know they really need some time off after
• 24:49
  Speaker 3: having a month off in the middle of their season.
• 24:52
  Speaker 3: And Lebron James is now a Philadelphia seventy six er,
• 24:55
  Speaker 3: and so the Lebron James story off season story for
• 25:00
  Speaker 3: the most part, has come to a conclusion. But I
• 25:03
  Speaker 3: think he meets with the press at some point, either
• 25:06
  Speaker 3: today or tomorrow.
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  Speaker 3: I yes, Greg Bell with us pretty much every day
• 25:44
  Speaker 3: at seven oh five for the entire football season. And
• 25:47
  Speaker 3: here we are out here for our first show of
• 25:50
  Speaker 3: training camp and Greg Bell's seat is empty across the table. Um, yeah,
• 25:56
  Speaker 3: it's disappointing.
• 25:57
  Speaker 1: Disappointing. Oh we get up at the crack of dawn
• 26:00
  Speaker 1: where you've been a weekend.
• 26:02
  Speaker 4: Out there all week and two practices.
• 26:08
  Speaker 3: I did see your new parking space out there, Look
• 26:11
  Speaker 3: at you got your name played out there and everything else.
• 26:14
  Speaker 3: I almost parked there just to you know, haze you
• 26:17
  Speaker 3: on day number one of my training camp this year.
• 26:20
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I would have had you, Toad Yeah, they've done
• 26:22
  Speaker 4: that every year for a while for the beat writers,
• 26:25
  Speaker 4: and you see a lot of credit for that because
• 26:27
  Speaker 4: it would be it would be a lot of inconvenience
• 26:31
  Speaker 4: for beat writers who were in and out of there
• 26:33
  Speaker 4: at all hours. Yeah, so yeah, we were.
• 26:36
  Speaker 3: We are always left outside the gate, so I never
• 26:38
  Speaker 3: even got inside to see.
• 26:40
  Speaker 1: Well, yeah, you're living these days.
• 26:44
  Speaker 4: The hard knocks. Dudes are outside the gates. That little
• 26:47
  Speaker 4: grave a lot they've taken over with trailers right outside
• 26:49
  Speaker 4: the gates. Now right away when we're talking about it, Yeah,
• 26:53
  Speaker 4: I was going to say, they are omnipotent everywhere. They're
• 26:59
  Speaker 4: chasing players all over the place. During scrimmages. There's four
• 27:02
  Speaker 4: or five boom microphones in the huddles. Behind the huddles
• 27:06
  Speaker 4: and Manda. They love Devin Witherspoon already. He's as we predicted,
• 27:11
  Speaker 4: He's going to be the personality kid of the show.
• 27:14
  Speaker 4: Even when he ties his shoes, they have a boom
• 27:16
  Speaker 4: mic over his head. He's they they're catching him chirping
• 27:20
  Speaker 4: at the offensive players and just what he always does.
• 27:24
  Speaker 4: He will be a featured star and the rest of
• 27:26
  Speaker 4: the country will get to see what we know out here,
• 27:28
  Speaker 4: what he is in practices, but the guys are saying, well,
• 27:32
  Speaker 4: after a few days, we're probably not going to notice it.
• 27:33
  Speaker 4: I don't know how you won't notice it after a month.
• 27:36
  Speaker 4: It's just.
• 27:38
  Speaker 1: Liking it.
• 27:39
  Speaker 4: Well, I think right now they're hamming up a little bit.
• 27:42
  Speaker 4: I noticed that the team meeting yesterday post practice, the
• 27:46
  Speaker 4: music was louder, the roars are louder. There's a permanent
• 27:50
  Speaker 4: robotic camera in the team meeting room that NFL films
• 27:54
  Speaker 4: they hard Knocks is set up. They've done the same
• 27:56
  Speaker 4: thing for John Schneider's office, Mike McDonald's off. There's gonna
• 28:02
  Speaker 4: be a handheld walking a person walking through the locker
• 28:04
  Speaker 4: room when they do it in the locker. It's not
• 28:06
  Speaker 4: a remote camera in there. But right now I think
• 28:10
  Speaker 4: they're playing a little bit to the cameras. I noticed
• 28:12
  Speaker 4: a lot of guys got haircuts, for instance, to clean
• 28:14
  Speaker 4: themselves up a little bit, as if they're gonna be
• 28:17
  Speaker 4: starring in national television. But it's different. It's noticeable, and
• 28:22
  Speaker 4: the guys, the players, I think, are noticing it too.
• 28:25
  Speaker 1: Yeah, well I did too. I did too.
• 28:27
  Speaker 3: I want to be on the next season of White
• 28:28
  Speaker 3: Lotus and this is my chance.
• 28:30
  Speaker 1: So that's Netflix. I've never even seen the show. Greg
• 28:35
  Speaker 1: Bell is with us here. All right, Well let's get
• 28:38
  Speaker 1: into some news.
• 28:39
  Speaker 4: Then.
• 28:40
  Speaker 1: Where are we with Devin Witherspoon. Since you brought his name.
• 28:43
  Speaker 4: Up, it's imminent that he's going to get a new contract.
• 28:46
  Speaker 4: It's going to be thirty one million or more a year.
• 28:49
  Speaker 4: It's probably going to be eclipsing Trent McDuffie's I think
• 28:51
  Speaker 4: some of the interesting stall play circumstances going on here
• 28:56
  Speaker 4: is that Witherspoon and Christian Gonzale is the other elite
• 29:00
  Speaker 4: cornerback in Green in New England who is also due
• 29:04
  Speaker 4: for an extension. They both have the same agent, same agency,
• 29:08
  Speaker 4: so it wouldn't surprise me that that agency is leveraging
• 29:12
  Speaker 4: those two players off each other to drive each of
• 29:14
  Speaker 4: their price up. Robert Kraft, the Patriots owner, came out
• 29:18
  Speaker 4: this weekend saying, man, we've already given Gonzalez the offer
• 29:21
  Speaker 4: that would make him the highest pid cornerback in the league. Well,
• 29:25
  Speaker 4: Witherspoon's agency knows what that offer is, and if they
• 29:28
  Speaker 4: want to make Witherspoon the highest player in the league,
• 29:30
  Speaker 4: they'll piggyback and leap frog over that. And so I
• 29:35
  Speaker 4: think that's also some of it. I've said it before.
• 29:37
  Speaker 4: It's the guaranteed money when it's due, how much does
• 29:40
  Speaker 4: it do its signing, how much of the total value
• 29:41
  Speaker 4: of the contract is guaranteed. Those are the eleventh and
• 29:44
  Speaker 4: a half hour details that usually hang up the deals
• 29:48
  Speaker 4: type such as this. There's no signs that it won't
• 29:51
  Speaker 4: get done, and it's going to be soon.
• 29:53
  Speaker 1: I know it's a story, and as you suggest there,
• 29:56
  Speaker 1: I don't give any thought to it. I do give
• 29:59
  Speaker 1: a lot of thought nickim and worry and being on
• 30:02
  Speaker 1: the physically unable to perform list. And you were there
• 30:07
  Speaker 1: interviewing Mike McDonald and just kind of repeat what he said,
• 30:12
  Speaker 1: what's the update that we're getting about his injury? But
• 30:17
  Speaker 1: then also Greg kind of share with us any kind
• 30:21
  Speaker 1: of body language or affect that you may have observed
• 30:26
  Speaker 1: from Mike McDonald that might, in your intuition, suggest anything
• 30:32
  Speaker 1: at all about where we are with this injury.
• 30:36
  Speaker 4: Well, he started out by saying that it's not long
• 30:39
  Speaker 4: term that they did it now, because this is better
• 30:43
  Speaker 4: for his long term health and everything will be fine
• 30:45
  Speaker 4: after this surgery left unseaid is why they waited until
• 30:48
  Speaker 4: July to do it. I think they were hoping the
• 30:51
  Speaker 4: rehab would fix it, obviously without the surgery, and that
• 30:55
  Speaker 4: did not happen. So that I press McDonald, Well, you
• 30:58
  Speaker 4: say it's not long term, expect him to be ready
• 31:01
  Speaker 4: for the opener, which is what I've been told by
• 31:03
  Speaker 4: a couple league sources in and around the team. And
• 31:07
  Speaker 4: McDonald's started sounding like Pete Carroll and he started him
• 31:10
  Speaker 4: and and han. He said, well he could play, and
• 31:13
  Speaker 4: the Koy way that Carol used to do it, Well
• 31:16
  Speaker 4: he could plan the opener. I guess it's possible. And
• 31:18
  Speaker 4: he started nervously laughing, and so I asked him, I said, well,
• 31:23
  Speaker 4: sure he could play. Will do you expect him to play?
• 31:27
  Speaker 4: And he, finally, after a couple of him and Hawsen
• 31:29
  Speaker 4: last again said I don't know. And what I took
• 31:32
  Speaker 4: from that, Hugh, is that he doesn't want to add
• 31:34
  Speaker 4: pressure on to the kid, even while he's still only
• 31:37
  Speaker 4: twenty two years old. He's his second year. He's trying
• 31:39
  Speaker 4: to make a big first impression that's lasting from the
• 31:42
  Speaker 4: beginning of last season through now, and he probably feels
• 31:46
  Speaker 4: pressure that. Well, man, I should have taken care of
• 31:48
  Speaker 4: this earlier. I don't want this to drag on too much.
• 31:51
  Speaker 4: I need to get back. And I think McDonald publicly
• 31:54
  Speaker 4: saying I don't know about the opener was his way
• 31:57
  Speaker 4: of saying to the kid the public perction wise, don't
• 32:01
  Speaker 4: rush back. I'm not going to put a timeline on
• 32:03
  Speaker 4: you that would make you the artificial pressure that you
• 32:05
  Speaker 4: don't need. The expectation I'm told is that he will
• 32:09
  Speaker 4: be back for the opener. It's just that his coach
• 32:11
  Speaker 4: doesn't want to add pressure to it.
• 32:12
  Speaker 1: That And it should be noted Greg that this is
• 32:17
  Speaker 1: the same It's the right ankle. He had the high
• 32:19
  Speaker 1: ankle sprain in Week one, you had the low ankle
• 32:22
  Speaker 1: sprain leading up to the Super Bowl. He played through that.
• 32:28
  Speaker 1: It's all the same right ankle. And you know, I
• 32:30
  Speaker 1: guess for me having been a teammate of Shannon Sharp
• 32:33
  Speaker 1: and watched him get injection after injection later in his
• 32:38
  Speaker 1: career in icing and not being able to practice, and
• 32:41
  Speaker 1: you know, I guess there's at least a concern, however improbable,
• 32:46
  Speaker 1: that you want to avoid anything chronic coming to afflict
• 32:51
  Speaker 1: this beautiful athlete exactly.
• 32:54
  Speaker 4: And the fact that it was an arthroscopic, non evasive
• 32:58
  Speaker 4: tensil his scope surgery suggests they don't think it's to
• 33:04
  Speaker 4: that point at all yet. I say yet, only that
• 33:07
  Speaker 4: we'll see how he responds from this and how it
• 33:10
  Speaker 4: goes from here. But it is true it's the same ankle.
• 33:13
  Speaker 4: They are saying. It's two different injuries. The high ankle
• 33:16
  Speaker 4: sprain of course, ligaments that higher up in the end
• 33:18
  Speaker 4: of the shin that happened in the fourth play of
• 33:20
  Speaker 4: his career in early September last year, and then this
• 33:23
  Speaker 4: one four days before the Super Bowl was a hate
• 33:27
  Speaker 4: to use the garden variety spring and it was it
• 33:29
  Speaker 4: was a twisted, inverted ankle that twisted as he was
• 33:32
  Speaker 4: trying to defend the pass. So they consider it two
• 33:36
  Speaker 4: different injuries. But that they say, and McDonald reiterated Saturday
• 33:39
  Speaker 4: that it was the lower ankle spring from the Super
• 33:42
  Speaker 4: Bowl that this surgery was correcting. Mc emon Worri said
• 33:47
  Speaker 4: last month in mini camp that he tested a three
• 33:49
  Speaker 4: game He actually went back to practice a little bit
• 33:52
  Speaker 4: on Friday, two days before the Super Bowl, two days
• 33:54
  Speaker 4: after the injury, and it surprised everybody but that he
• 33:57
  Speaker 4: tested the pregame and tested really hard, maybe more harder
• 34:00
  Speaker 4: than he should have, and it was fine and he
• 34:02
  Speaker 4: placed seventy to seventy two snaps and then he intensely rehabbed.
• 34:06
  Speaker 4: He said, he stayed well. A lot of guys went
• 34:08
  Speaker 4: back to their home areas and in South Carolina. He
• 34:11
  Speaker 4: stayed here and intensely rehabbed in the facility. Then did
• 34:15
  Speaker 4: it rehab that on the East coast, he told at
• 34:18
  Speaker 4: the time. In juney says all good, and then he's
• 34:21
  Speaker 4: starting prepare to show up in July for training camp
• 34:24
  Speaker 4: and says this isn't right. And that's when the team
• 34:25
  Speaker 4: decided to have the surgery.
• 34:27
  Speaker 3: Greg Bell is with us our Seahawks in signer day
• 34:30
  Speaker 3: number one of our training camp covered h Millan, Chuck
• 34:32
  Speaker 3: Powell with you here from the Virginia Mason Athletics Center.
• 34:35
  Speaker 3: And of course I get all of my Seahawks news
• 34:37
  Speaker 3: from Thenewstribune dot com and Greg Bell's writing, but I
• 34:42
  Speaker 3: couldn't help but notice, you know that pretty much everybody
• 34:46
  Speaker 3: that was covering the Seahawks weekend was talking about Cooper
• 34:50
  Speaker 3: Cup and Tory Horton on Saturday and Sunday.
• 34:54
  Speaker 1: Did they stand out just that much?
• 34:55
  Speaker 4: Greg Tory Horton stood out by the fact he was
• 34:59
  Speaker 4: on the practice field, thought he might be a physically
• 35:01
  Speaker 4: able to perform this guy himself. He had not practiced
• 35:04
  Speaker 4: at all in OTA's in mini caamp from the major
• 35:06
  Speaker 4: shin injury in early November. And there he was Day one,
• 35:10
  Speaker 4: full pads, full go catching punts and run around catching
• 35:14
  Speaker 4: passes from Sam Donald. He's running fluidly. They've held him
• 35:18
  Speaker 4: out of eleven on eleven drills so far as a precaution.
• 35:22
  Speaker 4: But all signs really good about Tory Horton being back,
• 35:26
  Speaker 4: and I thought maybe he might not be at to start.
• 35:28
  Speaker 4: Cooper Cup. I mean, we've talked about the fact that
• 35:32
  Speaker 4: he's almost a dozen years in the league now, thirty
• 35:35
  Speaker 4: three years old. Big family, still young family, made two
• 35:39
  Speaker 4: hundred million dollars, been a Super Bowl champion twice. And
• 35:42
  Speaker 4: I asked him whether he considered walking away from the
• 35:45
  Speaker 4: leaving not on top, and he scoffed at me and said, no, way,
• 35:49
  Speaker 4: loved the sport. Well, yesterday he showed why he's still playing.
• 35:52
  Speaker 4: He was down the left sideline against Josh Job and
• 35:56
  Speaker 4: eleven and eleven. Donald's throw was a little too far
• 35:59
  Speaker 4: to the sideline and out in front of him, and
• 36:02
  Speaker 4: Cup just turned on the speed, went past Job and
• 36:05
  Speaker 4: then reached out with his left arm and in the
• 36:07
  Speaker 4: crook of his left arm caught the pass well still,
• 36:10
  Speaker 4: he was flat out superman diving while still keeping himself
• 36:13
  Speaker 4: in bounds. Before Julian Love arrived in Loved, just from
• 36:16
  Speaker 4: the center of the field, just shook his head and
• 36:19
  Speaker 4: looking at Cup. Smith and Jiggbas said after practice, that's
• 36:22
  Speaker 4: who he is. And it's like a coach in the
• 36:25
  Speaker 4: field who can also still play. He can obviously Cooper
• 36:29
  Speaker 4: Cup still play, I will say, And Hugh knows this
• 36:31
  Speaker 4: this time of the training camp, still in shorts and
• 36:35
  Speaker 4: helmets and notepads and defenders not allowed to are not
• 36:39
  Speaker 4: supposed to challenge balls in the air. The receivers and
• 36:42
  Speaker 4: the quarterbacks do tend to look good because they're relatively unchallenged.
• 36:46
  Speaker 4: But that was an exceptional catch. No matter what. If
• 36:49
  Speaker 4: it had full pads in a game, it would have
• 36:50
  Speaker 4: been crazy.
• 36:52
  Speaker 1: Well, the fact that Cup would make a catch like
• 36:54
  Speaker 1: that surprises me zero right. I kind of feel like,
• 36:59
  Speaker 1: I know we're going to get with Cooper Cup. You
• 37:02
  Speaker 1: know he's a declining asset, but let's stick with the
• 37:06
  Speaker 1: wide receivers. You don't pay seventeen million dollars for a
• 37:12
  Speaker 1: return guy in Rashid Shiheed just for returning. And you
• 37:17
  Speaker 1: look at the numbers over twelve games for the Seahawks
• 37:20
  Speaker 1: last year, extrapolate that over a seventeen games. It's it's
• 37:24
  Speaker 1: just a little over three hundred yards. So that's not
• 37:27
  Speaker 1: enough what he did. It has to be improved upon.
• 37:32
  Speaker 1: What sense do you get from the coaching staff and
• 37:36
  Speaker 1: where we are because I feel like for the Seahawks
• 37:39
  Speaker 1: to reach their potential that he's going to be pivotal,
• 37:43
  Speaker 1: that there's there's got to be an uptick in his
• 37:45
  Speaker 1: performance as a wide receiver.
• 37:48
  Speaker 4: Well, you, I can't think there could be any lower
• 37:51
  Speaker 4: production wise a receiver than he could have been last
• 37:53
  Speaker 4: year when he came in midstream to.
• 37:54
  Speaker 1: The middle of the off November fourth.
• 37:56
  Speaker 4: And that he gave him anything offensively would have been
• 38:00
  Speaker 4: a bonus on top of his kick game. Now he's
• 38:03
  Speaker 4: had the whole offseason. He and Sam Donald and everybody else,
• 38:07
  Speaker 4: Cooper cup Jackson's been the digbar are all starting from
• 38:09
  Speaker 4: the same square. With Brian Flurry the new offensive coordinator.
• 38:13
  Speaker 4: That's an advantage for Shhed that he's not behind anyone
• 38:15
  Speaker 4: as far as the offense and the schematics of it.
• 38:19
  Speaker 4: And Donald has made a concerted effort to connect with
• 38:22
  Speaker 4: Shaheed during OTA's mini camps and they started training camp,
• 38:26
  Speaker 4: And what what do you mean by that? When it's
• 38:28
  Speaker 4: his turn in the drill, Shaheed's turn in the drill,
• 38:32
  Speaker 4: Donald jumps in. Whether it's whether Donald had just thrown
• 38:35
  Speaker 4: three in a row between the quarterbacks. The three quarterbacks
• 38:39
  Speaker 4: alternate the two lines of receivers and they just rotate
• 38:42
  Speaker 4: three over two, And when Shaheed turn comes up, doesn't
• 38:45
  Speaker 4: matter where it was in the rotation, Donald jumps up
• 38:48
  Speaker 4: to make sure he's thrown to him. So there is
• 38:51
  Speaker 4: a forced connection that they're trying to forge. They're still
• 38:54
  Speaker 4: in the early stages of it, but I'd have to
• 38:56
  Speaker 4: think it's going to be way way ahead of last year,
• 38:58
  Speaker 4: just purely by time and a familiarity compared to jumping
• 39:02
  Speaker 4: in the middle of season.
• 39:04
  Speaker 3: Well, I got one hundred more questions, but I'm going
• 39:06
  Speaker 3: to have to just stick with the one to conclude
• 39:10
  Speaker 3: our first conversation with you here at training camp. So
• 39:14
  Speaker 3: that means ten o'clock. Man, you can just let fly
• 39:16
  Speaker 3: with all sorts of new material. But I do want
• 39:19
  Speaker 3: to ask you, what's this Michael Jordan connection that's going
• 39:22
  Speaker 3: on with Mike McDonald and the Seahawks.
• 39:26
  Speaker 4: The latest newest twist of messaging by Mike McDonald. Jillian
• 39:29
  Speaker 4: Love shared yesterday he's learning something every day about his
• 39:32
  Speaker 4: new coach. So I said, Okay, what'd you learn today?
• 39:35
  Speaker 4: And he said, Love did Native Chicagoan that McDonald came
• 39:39
  Speaker 4: into the team meeting today and talked about Michael Jordan
• 39:41
  Speaker 4: and ninety one Bulls and how Jordan had been a
• 39:44
  Speaker 4: four time NBA scoring champion, averaging thirty eight points a
• 39:47
  Speaker 4: game for four years, yet the Bulls had one anthing
• 39:49
  Speaker 4: couldn't get past the Pistons. And only after Jordan pulled
• 39:55
  Speaker 4: back on the individual scoring and is exquisite scoring an
• 39:58
  Speaker 4: individual play and involved his teammates. And that's when the
• 40:02
  Speaker 4: Bulls became a team. When he bought into Phil Jackson's
• 40:05
  Speaker 4: team mentality. Of course, the Bulls got better players too
• 40:08
  Speaker 4: around him. But his point, McDonald's point was we win,
• 40:14
  Speaker 4: not one guy, not a couple of our stars, not
• 40:17
  Speaker 4: the veterans. Twelve is one is real? Is what the
• 40:21
  Speaker 4: message was for McDonald yesterday, and Love said, that's a
• 40:24
  Speaker 4: new twist. I highlighted, I led my story for the
• 40:28
  Speaker 4: News Tribune with that, because I think it's fascinating to
• 40:31
  Speaker 4: see how Mike McDonald, at just aged thirty nine and
• 40:34
  Speaker 4: just only his third season as a head coach at
• 40:36
  Speaker 4: any level is basically got to reinvent himself and his approach.
• 40:41
  Speaker 4: Pete Carroll tried to do it, but after fourteen to
• 40:44
  Speaker 4: fifteen years here, McDonald has really challenged himself to how
• 40:48
  Speaker 4: can I perfect the process for a team that's already
• 40:50
  Speaker 4: won the Super Bowl? Now only two years of knew
• 40:53
  Speaker 4: his culture shifting program, They've won the super Bowl, They've
• 40:55
  Speaker 4: already reached the mountain. So how does McDonald, as such
• 40:59
  Speaker 4: an inexperienced to a young coach, keep cracking the whip
• 41:03
  Speaker 4: on these guys to get him to do it again?
• 41:05
  Speaker 4: And that's a huge challenge, leadership challenge for him. It's
• 41:08
  Speaker 4: fascinating for me because his West Point background, his dad's
• 41:11
  Speaker 4: West Point background, and the leadership principles that he's instilled
• 41:14
  Speaker 4: in Mike McDonald. To watch this guy in a leadership
• 41:18
  Speaker 4: lab every day and he is evolving and he is
• 41:21
  Speaker 4: trying to find new messaging and new ways to involve
• 41:24
  Speaker 4: the players in a new, perfected process that we're still
• 41:28
  Speaker 4: only a couple of days into seeing how it works out.
• 41:30
  Speaker 4: But yesterday was an example of that evolution. And it
• 41:34
  Speaker 4: is fascinating because McDonald has succeeded in almost everything he's
• 41:37
  Speaker 4: done since he got here. Can he succeed again and
• 41:40
  Speaker 4: do something that very few coaches and teams can do,
• 41:43
  Speaker 4: and that's went back to back Super Bowls?
• 41:46
  Speaker 3: Well, I'll make sure that I don't know, Dante Fowler
• 41:49
  Speaker 3: Junior doesn't get confused and parking your spot, so I'll
• 41:53
  Speaker 3: keep that open for you.
• 41:54
  Speaker 4: No chance of that.
• 41:56
  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, So we'll be good on that front. We'll
• 42:02
  Speaker 3: see you here at ten o'clock today, how about that?
• 42:05
  Speaker 4: Yes, sir, you will. I'll be out even a few
• 42:07
  Speaker 4: minutes before that. Good to have you guys out there.
• 42:09
  Speaker 1: Thanks, Thanks great a bit. All right, our seax sent
• 42:11
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• 42:12
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• 42:34
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• 42:34
  Speaker 1: All right, we'll.
• 42:35
  Speaker 3: React to some of the things that we learned from Greg,
• 42:39
  Speaker 3: particularly the Nick emon Worri stuff, because I think Hugh
• 42:43
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• 42:54
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• 42:58
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• 43:01
  Speaker 3: of weather, Hugh Millan. And at the end of July
• 43:04
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• 43:09
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• 43:12
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• 43:18
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• 43:23
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• 43:27
  Speaker 1: here at our set here in a moment, we're gonna
• 43:29
  Speaker 1: have abe. Lucas m.
• 43:31
  Speaker 3: Koog is gonna be with us here on the radio program.
• 43:35
  Speaker 3: Is our coverage of training camp. Uh it does get
• 43:38
  Speaker 3: started here this morning. Hugh Millan is here. My name
• 43:41
  Speaker 3: is Chuck Powell, and joining us now is the starting
• 43:44
  Speaker 3: right tackle for your world champion Seattle Seahawks.
• 43:48
  Speaker 1: Ab Lucas is with us. How you doing, man?
• 43:50
  Speaker 6: Great?
• 43:50
  Speaker 1: Great to see you.
• 43:51
  Speaker 3: Yeah, how'd that sound you get to What did it
• 43:53
  Speaker 3: feel like to come to training camp as world champ
• 43:56
  Speaker 3: for the first time in your life?
• 43:58
  Speaker 6: I felt the same as last year?
• 44:00
  Speaker 1: Did it really? Yeah? I mean no different at all.
• 44:02
  Speaker 1: You didn't even get a better parking space anything like that.
• 44:05
  Speaker 6: I mean they moved me one spot closer. I don't
• 44:07
  Speaker 6: know if that was.
• 44:12
  Speaker 1: You're getting up in the world. How is the messaging
• 44:16
  Speaker 1: most different than a year ago?
• 44:19
  Speaker 6: I don't really know if it's too too different. I
• 44:22
  Speaker 6: mean it's I mean, if you guys listen to Mike talk,
• 44:25
  Speaker 6: Mike has been pretty adamant on and it's about the
• 44:27
  Speaker 6: process of everything, and that's kind of where we're staying,
• 44:31
  Speaker 6: you know, just paying attention to our process and what
• 44:33
  Speaker 6: we do as a team and as a collective unit
• 44:36
  Speaker 6: and not listening to any outside noise. So that's what
• 44:39
  Speaker 6: we're trying to build this year personally.
• 44:41
  Speaker 3: I mean, last year, we're waiting for you to get healthy,
• 44:44
  Speaker 3: which you did and then had a terrific season. What
• 44:48
  Speaker 3: was it like to not have as many of those
• 44:51
  Speaker 3: battles to be able to show up this year without
• 44:55
  Speaker 3: having to be in a process where you're trying to
• 44:58
  Speaker 3: get healthy for the start of the season.
• 45:00
  Speaker 1: Rates against the clock.
• 45:01
  Speaker 6: I mean, it's super nice to be able to just
• 45:03
  Speaker 6: focus on, you know, building strength and getting healthy for
• 45:07
  Speaker 6: the season and not worrying about, oh, have this injury
• 45:10
  Speaker 6: to take care of, this injury to take care of,
• 45:11
  Speaker 6: and I mean, regardless, you kind of take what life
• 45:15
  Speaker 6: throws at you and you can't control any of that.
• 45:17
  Speaker 6: But it was nice to just be able to get
• 45:20
  Speaker 6: back and just fully go hit the ground running.
• 45:23
  Speaker 1: Hey, Lucas with us and Abe, if you go back
• 45:25
  Speaker 1: to last season, the first fourteen games, you guys rushed
• 45:29
  Speaker 1: for one hundred and forty yards or more twice out
• 45:33
  Speaker 1: of fourteen, your last six games, including the three playoff games,
• 45:38
  Speaker 1: five out of six times over one hundred and forty
• 45:40
  Speaker 1: yards of market market uptick in the running game. What
• 45:45
  Speaker 1: happened there? That that really was, you know, in all
• 45:49
  Speaker 1: likely the reason why you guys are Super Bowl champs.
• 45:52
  Speaker 6: I mean, I think it was just like a cumulative
• 45:54
  Speaker 6: effect of continuing to work at the craft, learn the offense,
• 45:58
  Speaker 6: and go against the greatest defense, you know. I mean,
• 46:02
  Speaker 6: it's not I've said this time and time and against
• 46:04
  Speaker 6: this softening process, and like you know, as we continue
• 46:07
  Speaker 6: to progress on in the season, from Week one all
• 46:10
  Speaker 6: the way through to the super Bowl, it just steadily
• 46:12
  Speaker 6: got better. And that was the goal and that was
• 46:14
  Speaker 6: kind of the point. So yeah, just continuing to trust
• 46:17
  Speaker 6: the process, trust the offense, continue to learn, communicate, and
• 46:20
  Speaker 6: just dial it in and execute.
• 46:22
  Speaker 1: You had a hell of a season, but week one,
• 46:25
  Speaker 1: fourth quarter, one of the greatest defensive ends who's ever played,
• 46:29
  Speaker 1: Nick Bosa, gets into you a bit and impacts the game.
• 46:34
  Speaker 1: Talk about the challenge for an athlete where you say, Okay,
• 46:40
  Speaker 1: this is not what I trained for to have that
• 46:42
  Speaker 1: play happen to me. And then you're able to turn
• 46:44
  Speaker 1: it around, have the great season, do everything that you did.
• 46:48
  Speaker 1: For those who haven't played at that level, what's the
• 46:51
  Speaker 1: adjustment for you, and how do you go about turning
• 46:54
  Speaker 1: that into a positive.
• 46:56
  Speaker 6: I mean, this may sound bad, I I want to
• 47:00
  Speaker 6: say this effectively, like I didn't it happened. It just
• 47:04
  Speaker 6: is what it is. I didn't really care too much
• 47:06
  Speaker 6: about it. I mean, obviously disappointed that it was me, right,
• 47:10
  Speaker 6: but I just don't ruminate on that stuff too too
• 47:14
  Speaker 6: much because it's a it's part of the game. You know,
• 47:17
  Speaker 6: sometimes you get got and other times you get people,
• 47:20
  Speaker 6: you know, I mean, and as an offensive lineman, like
• 47:22
  Speaker 6: anytime something like that happens, it's like incredibly magnified, right
• 47:25
  Speaker 6: because you know, nobody's supposed touch the quarterback, so and
• 47:29
  Speaker 6: I understand that that's the nature of the position. But
• 47:31
  Speaker 6: like when it happened already kind of after the game,
• 47:33
  Speaker 6: I was just you know, I thought about it a
• 47:35
  Speaker 6: little bit, and I'm just kind of like, Okay, well,
• 47:36
  Speaker 6: it's on to the next you know. I mean, there's
• 47:38
  Speaker 6: no use worrying about it or putting special attention to it,
• 47:41
  Speaker 6: because I don't just keep you in the past.
• 47:43
  Speaker 3: Abe Lucas is with us here at our set here
• 47:46
  Speaker 3: as training camp coverage begins today at KJR Sports Radio
• 47:49
  Speaker 3: ninety three point three KJRFM. You got these hard knocks
• 47:53
  Speaker 3: people following you around. Now, you think this is going
• 47:55
  Speaker 3: to turn into an Abe Lucas TV special going forward?
• 47:59
  Speaker 3: You can really to impress these people with your entertainment skills.
• 48:03
  Speaker 6: Probably not. We'll see what happens though, you know, maybe
• 48:07
  Speaker 6: maybe people will like it. I don't know, I'm not
• 48:08
  Speaker 6: really pay is.
• 48:09
  Speaker 1: It distracting at all.
• 48:11
  Speaker 6: I mean, you just there's just cameras around every corner.
• 48:14
  Speaker 6: That's really it. Other than that, it's just business as usual.
• 48:18
  Speaker 1: Okay, Yeah, good that you're good, that you're got tunnel vision. Yeah.
• 48:22
  Speaker 1: Is everybody else the same way though, I don't know.
• 48:25
  Speaker 6: I mean you'd have to ask them.
• 48:26
  Speaker 1: I'm just not.
• 48:27
  Speaker 6: I'm just like trying to focus on, you know, getting
• 48:30
  Speaker 6: better at practicing, you know, executing. So that's that's my mindset.
• 48:33
  Speaker 1: Hey, lucas with us, And I'm curious from an offensive
• 48:36
  Speaker 1: lineman's perspective, you had Clint Kubiak, he kind of a
• 48:42
  Speaker 1: vall through the season. We can theorize from your perspective,
• 48:48
  Speaker 1: how did how did the offense change? How did Clint
• 48:51
  Speaker 1: Kubiak as a play caller changed or did you notice anything?
• 48:56
  Speaker 1: And then what do you expect from your position now,
• 49:00
  Speaker 1: Brian Floor, he's in here, how how do you expect
• 49:03
  Speaker 1: that to change it all? What have you noticed this
• 49:07
  Speaker 1: this far as has has It's only a couple of
• 49:09
  Speaker 1: days and mini camps and what have you. But do
• 49:12
  Speaker 1: you see any difference there from Clint Kubiak?
• 49:16
  Speaker 6: I mean I don't, I don't know yet. To be
• 49:18
  Speaker 6: honest with you, I'm not and I'm not really comparing
• 49:20
  Speaker 6: the two just because there's no one size fits all
• 49:23
  Speaker 6: to coaching or coordination or anything like that. I mean,
• 49:27
  Speaker 6: what I noticed about Clint last year is that Clinton
• 49:30
  Speaker 6: was really good at setting up plays later in the
• 49:33
  Speaker 6: game to be effective. Like if you look at AJ's
• 49:35
  Speaker 6: touchdown in the Super Bowl, like that was being set
• 49:37
  Speaker 6: up basically the entire game and then it just happened,
• 49:41
  Speaker 6: you know, the when we sold it to the right
• 49:43
  Speaker 6: the linebacker's bit and AJ free release so he was
• 49:45
  Speaker 6: wide open. That was happening throughout the entire game. We
• 49:48
  Speaker 6: were setting that up all the way through to that
• 49:50
  Speaker 6: to that score happening, And I think Clint was really
• 49:52
  Speaker 6: really good at that, And that's just one of the
• 49:53
  Speaker 6: things he was great at. And I know that. I mean,
• 49:55
  Speaker 6: Brian's obviously in the position for a reason, you know,
• 49:58
  Speaker 6: and he's gonna he's gonna do his own thing in
• 50:00
  Speaker 6: the ways that he knows how to. And I have
• 50:02
  Speaker 6: the utmost faith, So I mean, I'm just looking forward
• 50:04
  Speaker 6: to seeing it all kind of develop and open up.
• 50:07
  Speaker 3: I kind of feel like training camp. It kind of
• 50:08
  Speaker 3: reminds me. I was just telling Hugh this earlier of
• 50:11
  Speaker 3: the first day of school in which you always looked
• 50:14
  Speaker 3: for that person that changed the most, or the new
• 50:18
  Speaker 3: girl that moved into town. Yeah, that wasn't wasn't part
• 50:22
  Speaker 3: of the process the previous year. So give me the
• 50:26
  Speaker 3: person that in that facility that looks like, woh wow,
• 50:30
  Speaker 3: that person looks different from a year ago. And then
• 50:32
  Speaker 3: give me the new guy that has stood out thus far.
• 50:36
  Speaker 6: Oh goodness, I might have to give you or you
• 50:39
  Speaker 6: might have to give me a little bit more time
• 50:40
  Speaker 6: on the first part of your question, just because I
• 50:43
  Speaker 6: haven't really been paying so much to that as far
• 50:46
  Speaker 6: as like new guys. I mean, obviously, in our room,
• 50:49
  Speaker 6: we have Bo as a rookie, and so just excited
• 50:51
  Speaker 6: to see what he's gonna do to develop.
• 50:53
  Speaker 4: And then.
• 50:55
  Speaker 6: I mean we got you know, Dante coming off the edge,
• 50:58
  Speaker 6: and you know, I played against Dante for a couple
• 51:00
  Speaker 6: of years, and so I'm just excited to see what
• 51:02
  Speaker 6: he's going to do because I think he's a really dynamite,
• 51:04
  Speaker 6: good rusher and adds a veteran presence to the team.
• 51:09
  Speaker 6: And then you have you know, I don't know too
• 51:10
  Speaker 6: much about the rooks yet, but I mean if Mike
• 51:14
  Speaker 6: picked them. They got to be good, so we'll see
• 51:16
  Speaker 6: how We'll see how they end up doing. I'm excited
• 51:18
  Speaker 6: for them as well.
• 51:19
  Speaker 1: You mentioned Bo and on sports talk radio. We got
• 51:24
  Speaker 1: to have stuff to talk about. And one of the
• 51:27
  Speaker 1: topics that has, uh, we've touched on probably more than
• 51:31
  Speaker 1: once through the years, has been Anthony Bradford. And he's
• 51:38
  Speaker 1: lined up right next to you, just to your left,
• 51:41
  Speaker 1: and there was a feeling like, hey, do we need
• 51:44
  Speaker 1: to upgrade there. I know you're gonna support your teammate,
• 51:49
  Speaker 1: but maybe take us to the listeners into to your
• 51:53
  Speaker 1: perspective about how he may have improved or what it's
• 51:57
  Speaker 1: like working alongside with him. You mentioned and Bo's coming
• 52:00
  Speaker 1: in and what have you. He's been able to stave
• 52:02
  Speaker 1: off competition, but just the relationship you have and what
• 52:05
  Speaker 1: you notice from your compadre there at the right guard.
• 52:08
  Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean I think AB's only gotten better. I
• 52:11
  Speaker 6: think you saw that. I mean, if you really pay attention,
• 52:13
  Speaker 6: you saw that last year progressively, just Ab is just
• 52:16
  Speaker 6: continuing to put his head down, work and do really
• 52:19
  Speaker 6: really great things. I mean, like any other player, like
• 52:22
  Speaker 6: even myself. I mean there's times we can do better. Sure,
• 52:26
  Speaker 6: but I mean it's it's a competitive process. It's I mean,
• 52:30
  Speaker 6: there's a lot of moving parts behind the scenes. It's
• 52:31
  Speaker 6: also that I've said this, I think in the springtime,
• 52:33
  Speaker 6: it's very easy to ignore criticism from you know, outside sources,
• 52:38
  Speaker 6: just because there's so many intricacies to playing a position,
• 52:42
  Speaker 6: a football position that you know, most people don't really
• 52:46
  Speaker 6: understand how complex it actually can be. And so you know,
• 52:52
  Speaker 6: I would just say trust the coaches, you know, Coach Benton,
• 52:55
  Speaker 6: Coach Mike, all these guys who are actively coaching up Ab, myself,
• 53:00
  Speaker 6: off everybody else to be the best that we can be.
• 53:03
  Speaker 6: And I mean, a Aby's a phenomenal player, I think.
• 53:06
  Speaker 6: I mean, I enjoyed playing next one. We have great
• 53:08
  Speaker 6: communication and a great, great relationship. So I'm just excited
• 53:11
  Speaker 6: to see what we can do this year and just
• 53:12
  Speaker 6: continue to get better.
• 53:14
  Speaker 3: Where'd you put your ring in a shoe box or
• 53:16
  Speaker 3: an underground bunker? I mean, what kind of person are
• 53:18
  Speaker 3: you put tech that thing? It's hidden away? Yeah, flocked away?
• 53:21
  Speaker 3: Is that right?
• 53:22
  Speaker 6: Yes?
• 53:23
  Speaker 3: Absolutely, you could probably serve dinner for six on top
• 53:27
  Speaker 3: of it. It's so large, it's crazy. Yeah, Hey man,
• 53:32
  Speaker 3: great to see you have a great camp, have a
• 53:33
  Speaker 3: great year, Abe Lucas always a pleasure to have the
• 53:37
  Speaker 3: right tackle along with us right here on KJAR. Coming
• 53:41
  Speaker 3: up next, we will get back into some Seahawks football,
• 53:45
  Speaker 3: of course, that's what we're here for. We got our
• 53:47
  Speaker 3: camp battle coming up in the eight o'clock hour. But
• 53:50
  Speaker 3: also it was a rather interesting Mariners So weekend, so
• 53:54
  Speaker 3: Hugh and I will discuss that next. Sports Radio ninety
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• 54:05
  Speaker 1: Well, great Monday morning to you all. It's football season,
• 54:09
  Speaker 1: it's back. Do you know what we're looking at right now?
• 54:12
  Speaker 3: And when I say we do, you know who I'm
• 54:13
  Speaker 3: sitting with it's the QB one Hugh Mellon. Who's with
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• 54:52
  Speaker 1: So yes, Seahawks training camp coverage. Abe Lucas looks terrific.
• 54:57
  Speaker 3: You know, I asked him that question about who's ch
• 55:00
  Speaker 3: because you never know, you like, you show up and
• 55:02
  Speaker 3: Sam Donald's got a big beer gut or something, and
• 55:04
  Speaker 3: Anthony Bradford is down to one seventy five. You know,
• 55:08
  Speaker 3: there could be some alarming things that happened over there, a.
• 55:11
  Speaker 1: Series that could be a problem on the bull Rushes side.
• 55:15
  Speaker 1: And Donald doesn't sign.
• 55:16
  Speaker 3: He goes russell O' kung diet, and the next thing
• 55:19
  Speaker 3: you know, he's one sixty five. There in the weight room.
• 55:22
  Speaker 3: Everybody's like, who's that? That's our right guard, Quicker. I
• 55:28
  Speaker 3: just can't win.
• 55:29
  Speaker 1: That doesn't happen anymore, though, does it? In sports?
• 55:32
  Speaker 3: I mean, there was always in spring training you had
• 55:35
  Speaker 3: to worry about the Jesus Montero types. There was always somebody.
• 55:38
  Speaker 3: But it doesn't really happen anymore that somebody just looks
• 55:43
  Speaker 3: grossly different than what they did the last time you
• 55:46
  Speaker 3: saw them.
• 55:47
  Speaker 1: Not. I mean, it's very conspicuous. There might be one
• 55:51
  Speaker 1: guy who shows up out of shape, but I think
• 55:54
  Speaker 1: that you have to go back to the sixties, you know,
• 55:59
  Speaker 1: when guys were selling insurance and smoking cigarettes all off season, and.
• 56:04
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I show up to camp to get in shape.
• 56:07
  Speaker 3: Well I'll go back to the eighties because the other way.
• 56:09
  Speaker 3: When Brady Anderson shows up and he's forty pounds heavier,
• 56:12
  Speaker 3: all muscle, You're like, wait a minute, Oh yeah, yeah,
• 56:16
  Speaker 3: I mean yeah, that ain't creating. Yeah, you're just not
• 56:23
  Speaker 3: protein loading there.
• 56:24
  Speaker 1: What's you going on? How'd you get chicken pox on
• 56:26
  Speaker 1: that little spot on your ass? Oh? Pinpricks? Oh I
• 56:32
  Speaker 1: got it. Yeah you didn't get that, did you? I
• 56:38
  Speaker 1: can see it just wasn't hitting, was it? That plane
• 56:40
  Speaker 1: did not land for you?
• 56:44
  Speaker 3: But yeah, I think those days are over where somebody's
• 56:47
  Speaker 3: drastically looks different. But I don't think anybody's gonna shed
• 56:51
  Speaker 3: it t here. If Anthony Bradford lost fifteen.
• 56:53
  Speaker 1: Pounds in the off season, no, yeah, no, Uh might
• 56:56
  Speaker 1: get a little rice smile. Yeah, but uh a great,
• 57:01
  Speaker 1: he's a he's a sasquatch of a man. He's you know,
• 57:03
  Speaker 1: he's all the six seven. It looks like he could,
• 57:07
  Speaker 1: uh palm the largest pumpkin in the pumpkin patch. Uh
• 57:12
  Speaker 1: and hate that that that's a big you know, not surprisingly.
• 57:15
  Speaker 1: You know, if your business card says NFL offensive tackle, right,
• 57:20
  Speaker 1: probably probably an abnormally large guy. Yeah yeah, but yeah,
• 57:23
  Speaker 1: it looks trim looks great.
• 57:25
  Speaker 3: So good to see him. He's always smart, very always
• 57:28
  Speaker 3: a very good interview, and so we appreciated him.
• 57:32
  Speaker 1: Local Pride Archchistoph Murphy.
• 57:34
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I kept the Koogs out of the conversation this time.
• 57:37
  Speaker 1: That was deliberately to bother ian. Uh so, uh yeah, yeah, yeah,
• 57:47
  Speaker 1: reason just just kind of let that, you know, let
• 57:50
  Speaker 1: him put that behind him, you know, right, everybody makes
• 57:53
  Speaker 1: me straight. He's trying to he's trying to put that
• 57:56
  Speaker 1: in his past, that the Bosa getting forklifted. He handled
• 57:59
  Speaker 1: that well too, right, I did? Am I gonna ask
• 58:02
  Speaker 1: him that you did? You went there? Let me try.
• 58:08
  Speaker 1: He was more he was closer to you. If he
• 58:10
  Speaker 1: was going to swing at somebody, you were more likely
• 58:12
  Speaker 1: to get right. I think it'd probably take a lot
• 58:15
  Speaker 1: for that guy to get angry. But I don't think.
• 58:18
  Speaker 1: I don't want to see it. I do not want
• 58:20
  Speaker 1: to see it.
• 58:21
  Speaker 3: Where we're going to do our first camp battle a
• 58:23
  Speaker 3: little bit later on this hour. Also a lot of
• 58:26
  Speaker 3: things to discuss here on our first day of training
• 58:28
  Speaker 3: camp coverage. And as a matter of fact, there's so
• 58:31
  Speaker 3: much more it's going to be left on the editing
• 58:32
  Speaker 3: room floor that we'll get to. I'm sure as the
• 58:35
  Speaker 3: week goes on. But I got more topics than we
• 58:37
  Speaker 3: have time to discuss it. But I do believe Hugh,
• 58:41
  Speaker 3: it's even though it's training camp day. I mean, it
• 58:44
  Speaker 3: was quite the Mariners weekend, There's no question about it.
• 58:47
  Speaker 3: And for dom can Zone to pull that out of
• 58:50
  Speaker 3: the fire on Sunday and that team to win that game,
• 58:53
  Speaker 3: I mean it felt like uh, I mean Bucky used
• 58:57
  Speaker 3: to We always used Bucky's glossary of terms to try
• 58:59
  Speaker 3: to figure out, you know, when you could use that
• 59:03
  Speaker 3: was a big win because baseball players tend to.
• 59:06
  Speaker 1: Know that's just a regular win. That felt like a
• 59:09
  Speaker 1: big win.
• 59:10
  Speaker 3: It might have felt like a needed win at that point,
• 59:13
  Speaker 3: a necessary win, because man, it was feeling awfully bleak Friday,
• 59:18
  Speaker 3: the lost Saturday, the loss, and there was very flatlined
• 59:21
  Speaker 3: that Saturday performance, and then to be trailing three to
• 59:25
  Speaker 3: one in the seven, it almost felt like you had
• 59:28
  Speaker 3: to have that Dom can Zone home run Sunday.
• 59:31
  Speaker 1: Well, if you don't get it. That doesn't mean you
• 59:34
  Speaker 1: couldn't you know, made it happen in the eighth or ninth,
• 59:37
  Speaker 1: But there's two outs in the seventh and uh and
• 59:40
  Speaker 1: and and let's let's say you lose that game, and
• 59:43
  Speaker 1: now you've lost three straight. Uh, well it would have
• 59:46
  Speaker 1: been five, have been five straight, but three straight to
• 59:49
  Speaker 1: the Rangers, and now you're going to try and just
• 59:53
  Speaker 1: salvage something. Even if you win tonight, you're limping out
• 59:57
  Speaker 1: of there having lost three or four on a flight
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 1: to La to play the Dodgers. Yeah. Like, and all
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 1: of a sudden, that's just feels like as grim as
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 1: it could be for July, no doubt, no doubt, big difference.
• 1:00:12
  Speaker 3: I went into the series kind of expecting I think anything.
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 3: Either team was playing good enough to predict anything more
• 1:00:18
  Speaker 3: than a split, but it was looking like down three
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 3: with one game to go, and all of a sudden,
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 3: we were facing on a Monday morning wondering are we
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 3: really going to get swept in a four game series
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 3: by the Texas Rangers, who their own beat writer told
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 3: me last week they are fully expecting the Mariners to
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 3: pull away from this and are probably gonna sell at
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 3: the trading deadline. I mean, is that really what we're
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 3: looking at at this point? And so, I mean another
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 3: weekend of fire this guy, fire that guy by Mariner
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 3: fans everywhere, and I just wanted to spend a little
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 3: bit of time on that because obviously, with my announcement
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 3: about feeling that Dan Wilson should go a couple of
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 3: weeks ago, it's ended up being a big topic of
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 3: conversation at the station and on our show. And I yet,
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 3: I had a texter on Friday that just pleaded with me, like,
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 3: I get your points about Dan. Can we spend more
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 3: time on the offense, though, please, because that's the issue.
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 3: And I'm like, Okay, you know what, this is a fair,
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 3: fair criticism of Chuck and the Morning Show right now,
• 1:01:26
  Speaker 3: because You're right, the bigger problem is not Dan. It
• 1:01:32
  Speaker 3: has been our offensive production has not been there from
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 3: a roster that I feel should produce. And so as
• 1:01:41
  Speaker 3: I'm thinking about it over the weekend, I mean, I
• 1:01:43
  Speaker 3: still I'm going to be bullish about this. I mean,
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 3: I still put Jerry down the list of people to
• 1:01:53
  Speaker 3: blame because I believe in the roster. Why is the
• 1:01:57
  Speaker 3: roster not producing offensively when and everybody in the Baseball
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 3: World expected it to this year. Well, I think the
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 3: primary blame does not go on Dan Wilson, even though
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 3: I've said the things about Dan and I've been pretty
• 1:02:11
  Speaker 3: hard on him, especially as a blate.
• 1:02:15
  Speaker 1: The problem with.
• 1:02:16
  Speaker 3: The offense, Let's face it, the three best players, it's
• 1:02:20
  Speaker 3: Cal Rawley, Julio Rodriguez, and Josh Naylor. That's where the
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 3: blame on this season and the lack of take anybody's
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 3: three best players, and not only I mean, it's one
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 3: thing to be hurt and not available, it's another thing
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 3: to perform below what your replacement would. If you were
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 3: injured and your replacement came in, we would be in
• 1:02:40
  Speaker 3: a better position of Johnny Parada was catching offensively than
• 1:02:45
  Speaker 3: what we are with Cal. I mean, that's the issue, Hugh,
• 1:02:49
  Speaker 3: is what team can survive it's three best hitters performing
• 1:02:54
  Speaker 3: as poorly as our three best hitters have this year
• 1:02:58
  Speaker 3: and come out smelling like a rose on the other side.
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 3: And so as I carve up the blame pie, yeah,
• 1:03:04
  Speaker 3: I'm gonna blame the players first. That group gonna get
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 3: blamed first for this team's offensive struggles this year. But
• 1:03:10
  Speaker 3: then I'm gonna go coaches, because you're clearly not getting
• 1:03:13
  Speaker 3: the most out of the talent, because we know Cal's
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 3: got talent, we know Julio's got talent, we know Josh's
• 1:03:19
  Speaker 3: got talent, and he had.
• 1:03:19
  Speaker 1: I got two guys out of the three that have negative.
• 1:03:22
  Speaker 3: Wars on the season, for goodness sake, negative wars on
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 3: the season. So I'm not I'm gonna be bullish about it.
• 1:03:30
  Speaker 3: I'm not putting the front office head on the chopping
• 1:03:33
  Speaker 3: block because this team should produce, This lineup should produce,
• 1:03:38
  Speaker 3: this roster should produce. But they are not producing this year.
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 3: So that is my blame. That is players first, managers
• 1:03:47
  Speaker 3: or coaches second, front office third. But you can't fire
• 1:03:52
  Speaker 3: all your players.
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 1: I mean, should Jerry.
• 1:03:54
  Speaker 3: Have traded Cal Raley this offseason because he foresaw that
• 1:03:58
  Speaker 3: Cal was gonna have it terrible year coming off the
• 1:04:01
  Speaker 3: best individual year in Mariner's history. Imagine could you imagine
• 1:04:05
  Speaker 3: how angry people would have been if we didn't re
• 1:04:07
  Speaker 3: sign Josh Naylor. I mean, they have committed to these
• 1:04:10
  Speaker 3: three guys to be sort of the nucleus of this team,
• 1:04:14
  Speaker 3: and they've all underperformed, and two of them have grossly underperformed,
• 1:04:18
  Speaker 3: And so that's that's my blame pie breakdown for you
• 1:04:22
  Speaker 3: for better or worse. And so this isn't about like
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 3: Chuck loves Jerry to Poto. I don't have any personal
• 1:04:31
  Speaker 3: personal feelings towards Jerry to Poto, but I do think
• 1:04:34
  Speaker 3: he's good at his job, not every aspect, and I
• 1:04:38
  Speaker 3: think that he is lower on the things to blame
• 1:04:42
  Speaker 3: this year than players coaches.
• 1:04:45
  Speaker 1: Then we get to front off. I think that's a
• 1:04:47
  Speaker 1: fair argument. I do think there's an argument to be
• 1:04:51
  Speaker 1: made that Depoto deserves a little more criticism than perhaps
• 1:04:56
  Speaker 1: you're willing to give. And I think that argument. First
• 1:05:02
  Speaker 1: of all, you mentioned the three players. Everything is the
• 1:05:04
  Speaker 1: three primary players that you mentioned. Absolutely, you've got it.
• 1:05:10
  Speaker 1: There's no excusing them. But let's take like ref Sneyder
• 1:05:14
  Speaker 1: for example. Yeah, it's we as fans. We the idea
• 1:05:21
  Speaker 1: that we would say, as even radio analysts or fans,
• 1:05:24
  Speaker 1: that we'd say, well, I liked the move when when
• 1:05:27
  Speaker 1: it when it signed, so I can't can't criticize if
• 1:05:30
  Speaker 1: it didn't work out. No, that is not a fair
• 1:05:34
  Speaker 1: take because you and I aren't working ninety hour weeks
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 1: and paid to make sure that you know how that works.
• 1:05:42
  Speaker 1: When you bring a guy in You got to know
• 1:05:45
  Speaker 1: how he fits in the locker room, his personality. You
• 1:05:47
  Speaker 1: got to know how he feels about hitting in the
• 1:05:50
  Speaker 1: marine layer and whether that's gonna get him down and
• 1:05:53
  Speaker 1: what have you.
• 1:05:54
  Speaker 6: Like.
• 1:05:54
  Speaker 1: It's your job to say, does that part fit here?
• 1:05:58
  Speaker 1: And so some of this you you look at the team.
• 1:06:02
  Speaker 1: A couple things that I don't like about how it's constructed.
• 1:06:05
  Speaker 1: You got the saber metrics that they have a turn
• 1:06:09
  Speaker 1: call under the heading range runs above average, and it
• 1:06:16
  Speaker 1: based on the range and the gap of all major
• 1:06:20
  Speaker 1: league teams is the best is thirty five, the worst
• 1:06:23
  Speaker 1: is minus twenty four, and the Mariners are the team
• 1:06:26
  Speaker 1: that's minus twenty four. They are the dead last in
• 1:06:29
  Speaker 1: terms of defensive range that ain't getting better. Like you
• 1:06:32
  Speaker 1: can you can say, I think you might say, I
• 1:06:35
  Speaker 1: think Col's gonna come out of it. He's not gonna
• 1:06:38
  Speaker 1: hit one sixty two for the rest of the year
• 1:06:40
  Speaker 1: and he's not gonna have well, he's got ten homers now,
• 1:06:42
  Speaker 1: he's on a pace for what seventeen eighteen home runs.
• 1:06:45
  Speaker 1: He's you could say, he's gonna have over twenty home
• 1:06:48
  Speaker 1: runs and he's gonna finish at you know, two ten
• 1:06:50
  Speaker 1: or to twenty. That's not an unreasonable take. But the
• 1:06:54
  Speaker 1: idea that all of a sudden their range is gonna
• 1:06:56
  Speaker 1: get better, their range ain't getting better, and the same
• 1:07:01
  Speaker 1: This is not my term. This is the runs above
• 1:07:04
  Speaker 1: average based on the arm defensive arms. They're twenty first
• 1:07:07
  Speaker 1: out of thirtieth that their arms aren't gonna They're not
• 1:07:10
  Speaker 1: gonna start making throws from deep in the hole at
• 1:07:14
  Speaker 1: at shortstop or third or what have you, and the
• 1:07:16
  Speaker 1: arms are gonna, you know, Randy a Resa Rose arena,
• 1:07:19
  Speaker 1: he ain't gonna freaking throw anybody out on on a
• 1:07:22
  Speaker 1: on a on a tag up all of a sudden
• 1:07:25
  Speaker 1: because his arm is gonna be caught up right. So
• 1:07:27
  Speaker 1: so I think there's that component. Jerry Depoto is is
• 1:07:32
  Speaker 1: go ahead, There is a little bit. There is a
• 1:07:34
  Speaker 1: little bit.
• 1:07:34
  Speaker 3: Of you can Number one, we did get better at
• 1:07:36
  Speaker 3: range because we put Emerson at shortstop and got and put.
• 1:07:40
  Speaker 1: JP balls over the weekend too. He looked like he
• 1:07:43
  Speaker 1: he the range is better.
• 1:07:45
  Speaker 3: JP's got the worst range of any shortstop and arguably
• 1:07:48
  Speaker 3: the history of baseball, and does not have a good arm.
• 1:07:51
  Speaker 3: So that's gotten better. And if you do make a trade,
• 1:07:54
  Speaker 3: let's say they get a third basement. That's a way
• 1:07:55
  Speaker 3: to improve that is that is a way to get
• 1:07:58
  Speaker 3: the range better and the defense.
• 1:08:00
  Speaker 1: I I and so, and then I think the best
• 1:08:03
  Speaker 1: part of Jerry Depoto like if he were to get fired.
• 1:08:07
  Speaker 1: And I'm not I'm not saying and by the way,
• 1:08:09
  Speaker 1: I I I agreed with your take on on Dan
• 1:08:13
  Speaker 1: Wilson for what it's worth. I'm just you know, just
• 1:08:16
  Speaker 1: you know, I think there's there was I didn't feel
• 1:08:19
  Speaker 1: strongly about it. I wasn't like slam dunk. Chuck is right,
• 1:08:24
  Speaker 1: but Chuck is more. There's more reasons to fire him
• 1:08:28
  Speaker 1: than than to retain him, in my opinion when you
• 1:08:30
  Speaker 1: laid out that argument. Okay, So having having said that,
• 1:08:34
  Speaker 1: but I look at to Poto, and I say, the
• 1:08:37
  Speaker 1: guy is brilliant at at identifying right hand starting pitching.
• 1:08:42
  Speaker 1: If we want to get real granular, that dude is
• 1:08:45
  Speaker 1: like maybe the best on planet Earth. So there's aspects
• 1:08:50
  Speaker 1: of them that are phenomenal. I mean, because think think
• 1:08:52
  Speaker 1: about it, we've let it. You could say we got
• 1:08:55
  Speaker 1: eight starting freaking pitchers, right, and and what they're all
• 1:09:00
  Speaker 1: eighth they're all right handed, right, and Anderson's left handed.
• 1:09:03
  Speaker 1: That's right. I'm sorry, that's right, Ryan Sloan's right hand
• 1:09:07
  Speaker 1: so so so so you. But then the bullpen compared
• 1:09:17
  Speaker 1: to all but we're.
• 1:09:18
  Speaker 3: Top rank, they're top five statistically, maybe not anymore because
• 1:09:23
  Speaker 3: we had a bad weekend, but they were top five
• 1:09:25
  Speaker 3: going into the week.
• 1:09:26
  Speaker 1: But it seems like and the bull really good. Sometimes
• 1:09:29
  Speaker 1: it feels like we're only as strong as the weakest length,
• 1:09:33
  Speaker 1: like if we've got a seventh inning guy an eighth
• 1:09:35
  Speaker 1: inning guy leveraging.
• 1:09:36
  Speaker 3: And well that gets back to my Dan Wilson argument,
• 1:09:39
  Speaker 3: because that's he's not using them properly.
• 1:09:43
  Speaker 1: Yeah, well, I would say, don't have more than four.
• 1:09:46
  Speaker 1: But every everything, you could say this, every player, every manager, decision,
• 1:09:51
  Speaker 1: everything can be traced back up to Jerry Depoto. Sure, right,
• 1:09:56
  Speaker 1: and so so I think ultimately the guy who's the
• 1:10:01
  Speaker 1: president of baseball operations, pardon me, is in charge of
• 1:10:05
  Speaker 1: everything that happens on the baseball field, because everybody is
• 1:10:09
  Speaker 1: it was hired by him or retained by him, who
• 1:10:13
  Speaker 1: were hired by somebody who he hired, Right, So it
• 1:10:17
  Speaker 1: all paths lead on the ORG chart to Jerry Depoto.
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  Speaker 3: But I would also say five straight winning seasons, two
• 1:10:26
  Speaker 3: playoff appearances in the last three years, UH and a
• 1:10:31
  Speaker 3: top ranked farm system for the second time in six seasons.
• 1:10:36
  Speaker 3: I mean, all of those things also point to Jerry Depoto.
• 1:10:40
  Speaker 3: I mean, it has been a successful run. It has
• 1:10:44
  Speaker 3: not been a championship run, but we seem to be
• 1:10:48
  Speaker 3: at the beginning of what could be ten years of
• 1:10:52
  Speaker 3: tremendous success. That also traces back to him. But you're right,
• 1:10:56
  Speaker 3: he's not out of the four years, haven't made the playoffs.
• 1:10:58
  Speaker 3: He's not excused from right here. I'm not saying that
• 1:11:01
  Speaker 3: he's excused from blame. And he's look, he makes dumb
• 1:11:04
  Speaker 3: statements and press conferences that seem tone deaf to the
• 1:11:08
  Speaker 3: fan base and its interest. He has had a hard
• 1:11:11
  Speaker 3: time keeping good club chemistry. He can't find anybody that
• 1:11:16
  Speaker 3: hits left handed pitching. I mean, there are some weaknesses.
• 1:11:20
  Speaker 3: I'm just saying in the hierarchy. It is hard for
• 1:11:23
  Speaker 3: me to say Jerry Toboto should have seen that Josh
• 1:11:26
  Speaker 3: Naylor wasn't going to be good.
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  Speaker 1: I agree we should have let him go. Three those
• 1:11:31
  Speaker 1: three guys.
• 1:11:31
  Speaker 3: I mean, we we've locked those three guys up to
• 1:11:34
  Speaker 3: be our foundation. It should have been the thing we
• 1:11:37
  Speaker 3: were least concerned about, and yet it's the biggest reason
• 1:11:40
  Speaker 3: why we can't score runs consistently.
• 1:11:42
  Speaker 1: But there's there's still Okay. The team is twenty ninth
• 1:11:50
  Speaker 1: in the league in the thirty team league in doubles,
• 1:11:53
  Speaker 1: well they were twenty ninth last year, so they they're
• 1:11:56
  Speaker 1: they're slugging as a team is reliant disproportion on the
• 1:12:01
  Speaker 1: home run. That can be more impacted by the marine
• 1:12:06
  Speaker 1: layer in the stadium, you know, so like like they're
• 1:12:09
  Speaker 1: dependent on the home runs and they don't manufacture runs.
• 1:12:12
  Speaker 1: They never have. Yeah, I mean, I'm sitting here and
• 1:12:15
  Speaker 1: watch this beautiful squeeze bunt, you know, I'm like, oh wow,
• 1:12:19
  Speaker 1: you know, when do we do that? You know, so.
• 1:12:24
  Speaker 3: Proves something like that there's still value in the bunt.
• 1:12:27
  Speaker 3: Like we knew he was going to do that. He
• 1:12:30
  Speaker 3: tried to do it three times in a row, failed
• 1:12:32
  Speaker 3: the first time, and then he gets it down and
• 1:12:34
  Speaker 3: there was no defense against it. I mean there was
• 1:12:36
  Speaker 3: no defense. Again, There's nothing you could have done about it.
• 1:12:38
  Speaker 3: You had a fast runner at third, he got the
• 1:12:40
  Speaker 3: bunt down, Bizardo. There's no way you could play your
• 1:12:43
  Speaker 3: infield in close enough to cut that off.
• 1:12:45
  Speaker 1: Bizardo got there as fast as he could. I mean, yeah,
• 1:12:50
  Speaker 1: it's literally exactly how it's drawn on the whiteboard. Right,
• 1:12:53
  Speaker 1: it wasn't even a squeeze. It was a safety squeeze.
• 1:12:55
  Speaker 1: It wasn't even a squeeze squeene. Yeah, yeah, So I
• 1:12:59
  Speaker 1: don't know. I feel like there's some holes in the
• 1:13:02
  Speaker 1: roster and everybody has some holes. No, I understand, but
• 1:13:07
  Speaker 1: even the Dodgers have some holes. Okay, but but you're
• 1:13:11
  Speaker 1: you're sitting here, it's a disappointing season, right, how many?
• 1:13:15
  Speaker 1: How much? Now? When you mentioned those three guys that,
• 1:13:20
  Speaker 1: then you're probably on the list if I had to.
• 1:13:22
  Speaker 1: And by the way, i'm I'm I defer to you.
• 1:13:26
  Speaker 1: You you study baseball far more than me. You're the
• 1:13:31
  Speaker 1: top guy in this market for baseball. So so I
• 1:13:35
  Speaker 1: I want to acknowledge that you have a superior knowledge
• 1:13:40
  Speaker 1: on this. I've been a baseball fan my whole life,
• 1:13:43
  Speaker 1: but I don't study in the year twenty twenty six.
• 1:13:46
  Speaker 1: I don't study base lightball like you. So, but I'm
• 1:13:49
  Speaker 1: sitting I'm riding shotgun. You're you're driving the wheel of
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  Speaker 1: this show, and it's my job to push back a
• 1:13:55
  Speaker 1: little on you. Okay, So, but I did want to
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  Speaker 1: I did want to acknowledge that that I I respect
• 1:14:03
  Speaker 1: your knowledge and your opinion. Again, I think you're the
• 1:14:06
  Speaker 1: premier guy in this freaking market for baseball. But that
• 1:14:09
  Speaker 1: doesn't mean I'm gonna sit here and just go oh yeah,
• 1:14:11
  Speaker 1: chuck yah chuck yahcha right, particularly on some areas where
• 1:14:16
  Speaker 1: I genuinely I would do it just to be you know,
• 1:14:19
  Speaker 1: just to present a contrarian view. But I also do
• 1:14:23
  Speaker 1: believe some of the things that I'm saying here, Like
• 1:14:26
  Speaker 1: like I look at the team, and you know, you know,
• 1:14:31
  Speaker 1: it's like, hey, if they're not performing, ultimately, dude, that's
• 1:14:34
  Speaker 1: on you. You know, we were told that there was
• 1:14:36
  Speaker 1: gonna be a building process. He did a rare thing
• 1:14:40
  Speaker 1: on it. I think he was too candid. You know what.
• 1:14:42
  Speaker 1: It was a twenty eighteen nineteen we're gonna we're gonna
• 1:14:44
  Speaker 1: step back. Okay. So now when everything should be all gas,
• 1:14:49
  Speaker 1: no breaks, you made the playoffs two out of four times.
• 1:14:53
  Speaker 1: Last year was seemingly successful. What well, thus far, it's
• 1:14:57
  Speaker 1: been a not an all out dud, But none of
• 1:15:01
  Speaker 1: us thought it would be this disappointing. And there are
• 1:15:03
  Speaker 1: there are aspects of this team sure that he didn't
• 1:15:07
  Speaker 1: construct well the defense that I just mentioned, which.
• 1:15:11
  Speaker 3: I pointed out the beginning of the year, that we're
• 1:15:13
  Speaker 3: not talking enough about how the defense is a concern.
• 1:15:17
  Speaker 1: I pointed that out the beginning of it. And and
• 1:15:19
  Speaker 1: does Jerry Depoto have any of that?
• 1:15:21
  Speaker 3: Yes, yeah, yeah, but primarily it was JP Crawford and
• 1:15:26
  Speaker 3: Randy Rose arena and those are the holes.
• 1:15:28
  Speaker 1: Yeah, so what you know, you think can we just
• 1:15:31
  Speaker 1: d h Randy? I mean like like they're awful and
• 1:15:34
  Speaker 1: left field? Yeah? Right? And so uh uh, let's see
• 1:15:40
  Speaker 1: what he does with the trading deadline. Can't he had
• 1:15:42
  Speaker 1: left handed pitching, can't can't run in the field, can't throw?
• 1:15:46
  Speaker 1: Uh have you know, have a damn good an incredible
• 1:15:50
  Speaker 1: starting pitching? Uh? Bevy you know which which seven of
• 1:15:55
  Speaker 1: eight are right handers? Uh? You know? Are the bullpen
• 1:15:58
  Speaker 1: with brash down right now? There's one or two holes
• 1:16:02
  Speaker 1: that seem to like it. It's like you're only that
• 1:16:06
  Speaker 1: the whole chain is can hold up a bridge. But
• 1:16:08
  Speaker 1: if you have that one link that we're throwing in
• 1:16:11
  Speaker 1: and you're saying that that's to be put on Dan Wilson,
• 1:16:13
  Speaker 1: but we're putting in triple A. Everybody's got those here.
• 1:16:17
  Speaker 1: You can't start and you can't start.
• 1:16:19
  Speaker 3: A season with eleven quality relief major League just it's impossible.
• 1:16:24
  Speaker 1: You can't.
• 1:16:25
  Speaker 3: And some of them are going to get hurt and
• 1:16:26
  Speaker 3: you have to replace them with triple A guys. The
• 1:16:28
  Speaker 3: Dodgers right now have four triple A guys in their
• 1:16:31
  Speaker 3: rotation and that's the premiere organization in sports right now.
• 1:16:34
  Speaker 1: Well, it just seems like we have such a position
• 1:16:37
  Speaker 1: of starting pitching and maybe that's leading to the next
• 1:16:41
  Speaker 1: you know what they should do. But the holes that
• 1:16:45
  Speaker 1: they have, that they have such a position of strength
• 1:16:49
  Speaker 1: with their starting pitching for sure that they it seems
• 1:16:52
  Speaker 1: like to make a real legit run this year and
• 1:16:55
  Speaker 1: get get out of this. They gotta find something else
• 1:16:58
  Speaker 1: to help the team and trade it. I don't care
• 1:17:02
  Speaker 1: if it's one of the young guys or whomever. It
• 1:17:04
  Speaker 1: is probably not gonna get much for castile, So you
• 1:17:07
  Speaker 1: might have to, you know, bite the bullet and let
• 1:17:12
  Speaker 1: a picture that you don't want let go. I think
• 1:17:14
  Speaker 1: they're going to to fill some of the holes.
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  Speaker 3: want me to do that. Mike doesn't want Mike wants
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  Speaker 3: me to look forward.
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  Speaker 1: You know, he doesn't want me to stir that.
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  Speaker 6: I know that.
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  Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, yes, exactly.
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  Speaker 1: He might usher me out. It's kind of got a
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  Speaker 3: And yet here we are on day number one, and
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  Speaker 3: not only are we looking forward, but there is an
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  Speaker 3: off season of activities that we we've dealt with. And
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  Speaker 3: let's face it, Hugh, the Seattle Seahawks as world champs,
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  Speaker 3: have not gotten near the attention as what the Los
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  Speaker 3: Angeles Rams have gotten this offseason. And let's face it,
• 1:20:12
  Speaker 3: for very good reasons. The Rams were not only one
• 1:20:15
  Speaker 3: of the best teams in the National Football League this
• 1:20:18
  Speaker 3: past year, and the Seahawks, i'd believe better but very
• 1:20:23
  Speaker 3: narrowly better than the Los Angeles Rams. And what did
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  Speaker 3: that aggressive organization do this offseason? They're the best defensive
• 1:20:31
  Speaker 3: player on the planet, maybe the best cornerback or at
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  Speaker 3: least one of the best cornerbacks in the National Football League,
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  Speaker 3: a couple of other pieces that they've added. Meanwhile, the
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  Speaker 3: Seahawks sort of banking on we're just going to get
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  Speaker 3: better than what we were a year ago. Those are
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  Speaker 3: in a nutshell the offseasons of these two teams, and
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  Speaker 3: so Vegas and all the pundits Rams, Rams, Rams. Meanwhile,
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  Speaker 3: the Seahawks sitting here as defending champs. I'm gonna try
• 1:21:01
  Speaker 3: to keep on top of the hill despite all of
• 1:21:05
  Speaker 3: those Rams editions this offseason.
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  Speaker 1: What do you make of it? Well, you mentioned Vegas
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  Speaker 1: point fifty to win the Super Bowl. The next coast
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  Speaker 1: team is Buffalo at plus one thousand, So you figure
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  Speaker 1: five and a half to one for for the Rams,
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  Speaker 1: ten to one for uh for the the Bills. The
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  Speaker 1: Seahawks are at eleven plus eleven hundred and plus twelve hundred.
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  Speaker 1: So their thought, at least in the betting world, that
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  Speaker 1: the Rams have essentially, you know, double the chance to
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  Speaker 1: win it. Right, they're five and a half one. See
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  Speaker 1: how about eleven eleven to twelve to one, So they
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  Speaker 1: have a different philosophy. They're they're just obviously all in now.
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  Speaker 1: They did the paradox on that is that they spent
• 1:22:00
  Speaker 1: the thirteenth pick on their quarterback of the future. But
• 1:22:03
  Speaker 1: I think that that impacted their willingness to go get
• 1:22:06
  Speaker 1: Miles Garrett because they didn't. They gave up draft capital.
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  Speaker 1: They gave up Jared Verse and then a first round
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  Speaker 1: draft pick next year in twenty twenty seven, a second
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  Speaker 1: round draft pick the following year, and a third round
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  Speaker 1: pick the following year after that to get a thirty
• 1:22:25
  Speaker 1: year old defensive end. Now that thirty year old defensive end.
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  Speaker 1: If you take all the he has a December thirtieth
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  Speaker 1: first birthday or something, so he technically thirty last year.
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  Speaker 1: But Miles Garrett has the most sacks of anybody in
• 1:22:46
  Speaker 1: history under the age of thirty one hundred and twenty
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  Speaker 1: four and a half. The next closest is Reggie White
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  Speaker 1: at one toweight and there's only two others that are
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  Speaker 1: over one hundred, Jared Allen and TJ. Watt, you know
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  Speaker 1: those names. So that's the impact play they acquired. They
• 1:23:01
  Speaker 1: also get Trent McDuffie, and you know, they basically overhaul
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  Speaker 1: their corner room and get both of the chief starting corners.
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  Speaker 1: They give they give a twenty twenty six where where
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  Speaker 1: let's see, I don't I don't have the what they
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  Speaker 1: gave up, but it was a first rounder and a
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  Speaker 1: fifth rounder and then a six and then ay and
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  Speaker 1: twenty seven a third rounder. So those to me, you know,
• 1:23:34
  Speaker 1: those are Sam Donald. You could make an argument, one
• 1:23:39
  Speaker 1: could make an argument that those are Sam Donald acquisitions
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  Speaker 1: because look at what what the what the Rams did
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  Speaker 1: in their losses. First of all, Sam Donald in the
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  Speaker 1: last two games against the Seahawks, like eight and thirty
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  Speaker 1: one yards, six touchdowns, no interceptions. It's the most amount
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  Speaker 1: of yards that any quarterback has ever had against a
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  Speaker 1: team back to back the same team in consecutive games
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  Speaker 1: with no interceptions. So so it wasn't It wasn't Matthew
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  Speaker 1: Stafford's fault. It wasn't the Kenneth Walker Hill. They only
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  Speaker 1: they Kenneth Walker. The Seals only had sixty five yards
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  Speaker 1: rushing in the NFC Championship game at two point nine
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  Speaker 1: yards per carre. So wasn't Seale's running game. So though
• 1:24:29
  Speaker 1: you get a corner and you get a pass rusher,
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  Speaker 1: Jared Vers arguably is a more versatile player. He certainly
• 1:24:37
  Speaker 1: plays different spots on the on the defensive line. So
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  Speaker 1: if they get Aaron Donald, he'd say, well, he's he's
• 1:24:47
  Speaker 1: a run and pass guy, but he's If you ask
• 1:24:50
  Speaker 1: Sean McVay, he'd say, well, I'm probably more excited about
• 1:24:54
  Speaker 1: him as a pass rusher. So I think this is
• 1:24:56
  Speaker 1: in response to what Sam Donald did at three one
• 1:25:00
  Speaker 1: hundred and forty six yards I think and three touchdowns
• 1:25:03
  Speaker 1: in that NFC Championship game.
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  Speaker 3: Well, it's definitely a response, and I think that's a
• 1:25:08
  Speaker 3: key word to use in this conversation. I think that
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  Speaker 3: I think that Mike McDonald off should feel awfully flattered
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  Speaker 3: because even though the Rams sit there and say, oh
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  Speaker 3: we were, we were a weird two point conversion away
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  Speaker 3: from being the frum mole chamblions that wame argument. I
• 1:25:31
  Speaker 3: do believe it was a reaction, I mean to how
• 1:25:36
  Speaker 3: good a machine Mike McDonald has operating here in Seattle.
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  Speaker 3: I've argued that the Seahawks, their twenty twenty six is
• 1:25:48
  Speaker 3: based off of in twenty twenty four, they were like,
• 1:25:50
  Speaker 3: you know, when we're really gonna be good twenty twenty six.
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  Speaker 3: They just happened to win a Super Bowl along the way,
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  Speaker 3: and so I think what they're thinking. They didn't have
• 1:25:59
  Speaker 3: the big aggressive off season addition, you know, experience that
• 1:26:05
  Speaker 3: the Rams did, and it's because we have anticipated for
• 1:26:10
  Speaker 3: two years that we were going to be much better
• 1:26:12
  Speaker 3: in twenty twenty six that we were in twenty twenty five.
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  Speaker 1: And you know who.
• 1:26:15
  Speaker 3: Else thinks that's true. Sean McVay, Yeah, less need Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, I think they felt in order to stay
• 1:26:24
  Speaker 3: ahead of this, they're going to that Seattle team that
• 1:26:27
  Speaker 3: beat us this year and won the Super Bowl, They're
• 1:26:29
  Speaker 3: going to be even better in twenty twenty six. So
• 1:26:33
  Speaker 3: I think that speaks to why the Rams were so
• 1:26:35
  Speaker 3: aggressive this year to go out and her heart and McDuffie. Yeah,
• 1:26:40
  Speaker 3: and again, what phase, what facet of the football team
• 1:26:45
  Speaker 3: are they? If that's true, if that, if that, if
• 1:26:49
  Speaker 3: the Seahawks are part of their consciousness in those acquisitions,
• 1:26:53
  Speaker 3: what facet is it? It's the Seahawks passing game because.
• 1:26:57
  Speaker 1: And a lot of people about JSN, but you're saying
• 1:27:00
  Speaker 1: Sam Donald like those that's maybe that's just passy, guilty
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  Speaker 1: of of seeing it from a quarterback perspective. Let's just
• 1:27:10
  Speaker 1: agree that it's the passing game, right and so uh Moreover,
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  Speaker 1: if you look at the if you look at the
• 1:27:18
  Speaker 1: guaranteed contracts of the players that Seattle lost, you've got
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  Speaker 1: Reek Wollan, Kobe Bryant, Kenneth Walker, Boy Mafey, and Derek
• 1:27:31
  Speaker 1: Young Thritch throw him in there, and then and then
• 1:27:35
  Speaker 1: you say the net gain or loss, and now this
• 1:27:39
  Speaker 1: is not total contract, this is guaranteed money. Because I
• 1:27:42
  Speaker 1: think that's a more accurate way of defining and and
• 1:27:46
  Speaker 1: you know, if you're gonna throw it in a spreadsheet,
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  Speaker 1: you gotta have a methodology that's my methodology. That's what
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  Speaker 1: I think is the most I'm not cherry picking. I'm
• 1:27:54
  Speaker 1: saying what makes the most sense where you're trying to
• 1:27:57
  Speaker 1: evaluate what left the building went into the building, calculate
• 1:28:02
  Speaker 1: the net and say and then rank all the teams.
• 1:28:05
  Speaker 1: That was my project. And as it turns out, the
• 1:28:10
  Speaker 1: Raiders or they had the best the best net inflow
• 1:28:14
  Speaker 1: in free agency. The Packers had the worst net. But
• 1:28:20
  Speaker 1: there's an asterisk to that because Malik Willis had represented
• 1:28:27
  Speaker 1: forty five million guaranteed money going to Miami. But he's
• 1:28:32
  Speaker 1: not the he's not the Packers quarterback. Jordan Lovesy Packers quarterback.
• 1:28:36
  Speaker 1: So if if you're a Packer fan, or if you're
• 1:28:39
  Speaker 1: if you're saying, as has constituted the way we ideally
• 1:28:44
  Speaker 1: are are are are are formulated with our starters, Malik Willis,
• 1:28:50
  Speaker 1: we can afford it. So, uh, there's an asterisk the
• 1:28:53
  Speaker 1: fact that the Packers are ranked thirty second. Well, the
• 1:28:57
  Speaker 1: team that's ranked thirty first is the Sea Seahawks, so
• 1:29:00
  Speaker 1: that their their net outflows or inflows call it either one.
• 1:29:05
  Speaker 1: But Seattle has the second worst. So because because Emmanuel Wilson,
• 1:29:11
  Speaker 1: you know, was making nothing right, you didn't bring anybody yet, right,
• 1:29:14
  Speaker 1: So it doesn't feel like you lost a lot to
• 1:29:18
  Speaker 1: some people. I think that you lost something more than nothing.
• 1:29:22
  Speaker 1: You lost Kenneth Walker, You lost Kobe Bryant, Yeah, lost
• 1:29:25
  Speaker 1: Reek Wolan. Boy Maffy wasn't a starter, but you know
• 1:29:29
  Speaker 1: he's a pretty good pass rush. You had twenty million dollars,
• 1:29:32
  Speaker 1: somebody liked him. Yeah, right, so, and you lost your
• 1:29:37
  Speaker 1: offensive coordinator. So I think that if we're talking twenty
• 1:29:40
  Speaker 1: twenty six, who had the best offseason? I don't. I don't.
• 1:29:44
  Speaker 1: I don't know how you could say for this season
• 1:29:48
  Speaker 1: that the Rams didn't have a better off season. Now, sure,
• 1:29:50
  Speaker 1: now you could say Seattle was more that. Okay, what's
• 1:29:55
  Speaker 1: the best argument for Seattle? Long they didn't give up
• 1:30:00
  Speaker 1: the expenditures that the Rams have, that the Rams have
• 1:30:03
  Speaker 1: made decisions that that are uh for for the now.
• 1:30:07
  Speaker 1: They're compromising the future. And oh, by the way, don't
• 1:30:11
  Speaker 1: really love their quarterback Ty Simpson, the guy that that
• 1:30:15
  Speaker 1: that is central to their big plan? Yeah? Is he
• 1:30:20
  Speaker 1: worth the thirteenth pick? Overall? That's an odd pick to
• 1:30:24
  Speaker 1: me when you think of Jared Goff was in the
• 1:30:29
  Speaker 1: building for McVeigh and and you know, made Pro Bowls,
• 1:30:33
  Speaker 1: made Super Bowls, but he wasn't enough. So you sent
• 1:30:36
  Speaker 1: him to Detroit for two first rounders and Jared goff
• 1:30:42
  Speaker 1: to get Matthew Stafford. Why because Stafford just has this
• 1:30:47
  Speaker 1: this unique freaky arm talent and ability. Right well, ty
• 1:30:50
  Speaker 1: Sampson doesn't have that. Yeah, you know, so like like
• 1:30:56
  Speaker 1: he he he's a he's a good athlete, moves around,
• 1:30:58
  Speaker 1: but his arm is is kind of Jared goffett ish,
• 1:31:02
  Speaker 1: you know, it's certainly not Matthew stafford ish. So I
• 1:31:06
  Speaker 1: think there's you could say, there's some peculiar things happening
• 1:31:09
  Speaker 1: with him for the future. But if Matthew Stafford can
• 1:31:14
  Speaker 1: can keep his back healthy, because we know last year
• 1:31:17
  Speaker 1: somehow yet you know he couldn't throw in August all
• 1:31:18
  Speaker 1: of a sudden, Now he's the MVP. There's good reason
• 1:31:22
  Speaker 1: why they want to go. Now it's because of Matthew Stafford.
• 1:31:27
  Speaker 1: I take advantage of this dude. Now.
• 1:31:28
  Speaker 3: Yeah, maybe it's because even as a kid, I was
• 1:31:32
  Speaker 3: not like some die hard fan of a team. I
• 1:31:38
  Speaker 3: sort of get that if you did grow up that way,
• 1:31:41
  Speaker 3: like you were in Seahawk diapers and you know you
• 1:31:44
  Speaker 3: had a Sea Hawk bib and you know Sea Hawk
• 1:31:47
  Speaker 3: Pappy and everything else. That when you see an off
• 1:31:51
  Speaker 3: season where another team adds a Miles Garrett, I mean
• 1:31:56
  Speaker 3: there is an element of certain fans that want to
• 1:31:59
  Speaker 3: see the other team have a bus crash on the
• 1:32:01
  Speaker 3: way to the stadium so that the job is easier
• 1:32:05
  Speaker 3: to get a win that day. I'm not really built
• 1:32:08
  Speaker 3: that way. And maybe it's because I didn't grow up
• 1:32:11
  Speaker 3: you know, some die hard fan of any team, much
• 1:32:14
  Speaker 3: less the Seahawks are having not grown up here.
• 1:32:18
  Speaker 1: And maybe I'm sick the other way, but I'm kind
• 1:32:21
  Speaker 1: of excited about this.
• 1:32:23
  Speaker 3: I'm kind of excited about You get as good as
• 1:32:26
  Speaker 3: you need to get on paper, You go ahead and
• 1:32:29
  Speaker 3: do that, because I think the satisfaction of knocking them
• 1:32:34
  Speaker 3: off again after they added Miles Garrett and Trent McDuffie
• 1:32:39
  Speaker 3: and compromise their future. Do you know how demoralizing that's
• 1:32:43
  Speaker 3: going to be to the Los Angeles Rams organization if
• 1:32:46
  Speaker 3: they fall short again. I'm kind of like Gray's Abel,
• 1:32:49
  Speaker 3: right now, bring it on, Let's do it.
• 1:32:53
  Speaker 1: Let's do it. Let's do it. And look, I get
• 1:32:55
  Speaker 1: why they're the favorite. They should be the favorite.
• 1:32:58
  Speaker 3: They they are the favorite, right now going into the season.
• 1:33:01
  Speaker 1: So do you want But I'm all right, you want
• 1:33:03
  Speaker 1: Aaron Donald come back to like how far are we
• 1:33:07
  Speaker 1: going on this? Because because I feel like this is
• 1:33:11
  Speaker 1: like a scale, like like you're you're focused on the
• 1:33:15
  Speaker 1: gratification when you win. Yeah, yeah, and then but all
• 1:33:19
  Speaker 1: these changes are lowering the probability that you do. That's true,
• 1:33:23
  Speaker 1: you know, So, I mean I get it, you're right
• 1:33:28
  Speaker 1: that you would have more gratification, but yeah, I don't know.
• 1:33:32
  Speaker 1: So you're not so well carry out that logics. So
• 1:33:36
  Speaker 1: that if if it was reported that Matthew Stafford, you
• 1:33:40
  Speaker 1: know that his back was just too painful and he's
• 1:33:44
  Speaker 1: decided to retire.
• 1:33:45
  Speaker 3: Whatever you disappointed, No, not disappointed, No, whatever whatever comes come,
• 1:33:51
  Speaker 3: what may you know? Not disappointed. It's more of Okay,
• 1:33:57
  Speaker 3: you won the off season, now win the championship, and
• 1:34:03
  Speaker 3: you still got to come through the champs.
• 1:34:05
  Speaker 1: Well, there's no question that it would be more gratifying
• 1:34:09
  Speaker 1: to beat the Rams and go to the Super Bowl again.
• 1:34:13
  Speaker 1: Knowing that they clearly they went pot committed to twenty
• 1:34:18
  Speaker 1: twenty six. They shubbed all their chips in I mean
• 1:34:23
  Speaker 1: most all their chips. As we said, they did draft
• 1:34:27
  Speaker 1: a quarterback for the future. So I mean they couldn't
• 1:34:29
  Speaker 1: take Kenyon Sadik or yeah with that that pick with
• 1:34:33
  Speaker 1: the third he was still available, right.
• 1:34:37
  Speaker 6: Uh.
• 1:34:38
  Speaker 1: You know there's a couple who's the defensive end for
• 1:34:40
  Speaker 1: for Miami the the oh yeah short, yeah. Bain was
• 1:34:45
  Speaker 1: a like, there's some guys you'd say, whoa they did.
• 1:34:49
  Speaker 1: They got Miles Garrett, they got Trent McDuffie, and in
• 1:34:52
  Speaker 1: the first round, we're gonna have to do with you know,
• 1:34:54
  Speaker 1: they play all those tight ends. Uh. And and they
• 1:34:56
  Speaker 1: added Kenyon Sadik to that bevy or No, I'm not
• 1:35:00
  Speaker 1: a Reuben bain Is coming off the edge on the
• 1:35:04
  Speaker 1: opposite side of Miles Garrett like you know whoa. Yeah,
• 1:35:08
  Speaker 1: I'm not rooting.
• 1:35:09
  Speaker 3: For them to have a yellow brick road experience this year.
• 1:35:12
  Speaker 3: I know, I'm not rooting for Matt's Oh yeah, I
• 1:35:14
  Speaker 3: go ahead, throw forty six touchdown passes again, I'll see
• 1:35:19
  Speaker 3: who wins in the end. No, I want Miles Garrett
• 1:35:22
  Speaker 3: to have three and a half sacks in seventeen games.
• 1:35:24
  Speaker 3: So that's what that that Now I can root the
• 1:35:26
  Speaker 3: other way. Yeah, I want the house to drop on it. Yeah,
• 1:35:29
  Speaker 3: And I didn't root for them to get Miles Garrett.
• 1:35:31
  Speaker 3: But now that they've got it and they're winning the
• 1:35:33
  Speaker 3: off season and everybody's picking them, I'm kind of.
• 1:35:36
  Speaker 1: Excited about it.
• 1:35:37
  Speaker 3: I'm kind of excited to see how this goes down. Yeah,
• 1:35:41
  Speaker 3: I hope Aaron Donald decides, you know what, I just.
• 1:35:45
  Speaker 1: Want it eat. I don't want to play anymore. Well,
• 1:35:49
  Speaker 1: I if Aaron Dahl were to come back, you know,
• 1:35:58
  Speaker 1: one would assume that that makes the job even more difficult. Yeah,
• 1:36:02
  Speaker 1: he's thirty five years old, you know, missed two seasons.
• 1:36:06
  Speaker 1: But yeah, but uh, it's Aaron freaking Donald. I know.
• 1:36:11
  Speaker 1: I would say, there's an interesting I can't I'm going
• 1:36:15
  Speaker 1: to detach this emotionally and then kind of intellectually emotionally,
• 1:36:22
  Speaker 1: you know, I want the Seahawks to win. The intellectual
• 1:36:25
  Speaker 1: part of me. I can't wait to see what Mike
• 1:36:30
  Speaker 1: McDonald does. You know, in reaction, this is year three
• 1:36:36
  Speaker 1: for his defense. Assuming Emon Worri is gonna be fine
• 1:36:39
  Speaker 1: health wise, you know, even worries on the incline. Devin
• 1:36:44
  Speaker 1: Worerspoon is on the incline. Sam Donald, I think is
• 1:36:48
  Speaker 1: still on Sam Sam, But you know, and then you
• 1:36:50
  Speaker 1: got Brian Florey. You know that's that's a big X factor.
• 1:36:53
  Speaker 1: I know we're going to spend some time an all
• 1:36:54
  Speaker 1: a few days line together for the first time, and
• 1:36:57
  Speaker 1: how long from one year to the next. I'm yeah,
• 1:37:01
  Speaker 1: but I think Mike McDonald, you know, Mozart coaches the defense, right,
• 1:37:07
  Speaker 1: so I you know, I theater saying, so I'm more
• 1:37:11
  Speaker 1: interested in him. I want to hear him at the
• 1:37:14
  Speaker 1: harpsichord and what he can create on them. You know,
• 1:37:17
  Speaker 1: give give him a little time to to compose another
• 1:37:20
  Speaker 1: masterpiece because he's because he's a boy genius.
• 1:37:25
  Speaker 3: I'm just and my response to that is, that's not the.
• 1:37:35
  Speaker 1: Symphony I was looking for. That's that's my response to that. Yeah,
• 1:37:44
  Speaker 1: if that's what he supposed, you would have never heard
• 1:37:46
  Speaker 1: of him. That's true. That's a really bad song. O.
• 1:37:54
  Speaker 1: It has terrible medley, no harmony, no rhythm, and no
• 1:37:58
  Speaker 1: tone color. It's beautiful.
• 1:38:00
  Speaker 3: Imagine like you're sitting there and you're in the eighties
• 1:38:02
  Speaker 3: and you're like, how do I pay tribute to the
• 1:38:04
  Speaker 3: greatest musician of all time?
• 1:38:06
  Speaker 5: Oh?
• 1:38:06
  Speaker 1: I know, A really crappy song?
• 1:38:11
  Speaker 3: Annoying ABC THEMS, Next Sports Radio ninety three point three
• 1:38:18
  Speaker 3: kJ r f M to do the ABC's I figured.
• 1:38:21
  Speaker 1: He was like, can we start at the beginning of
• 1:38:22
  Speaker 1: the alphabet please? Yeah, he wanted to do letters, Yeah, A, A,
• 1:38:29
  Speaker 1: two z's. Yeah.
• 1:38:30
  Speaker 3: Well, I appreciate your enthusiasm for the bit, but we're
• 1:38:35
  Speaker 3: gonna probably get two or three in.
• 1:38:37
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, sorry, So that's the standard operating season usually. Yeah,
• 1:38:42
  Speaker 1: we'll see, all right, let's get into it. We'll start
• 1:38:45
  Speaker 1: with a letter g.
• 1:38:46
  Speaker 3: G is for Gabe, And my goodness, it was so
• 1:38:50
  Speaker 3: good because we were all so concerned that if Gabe
• 1:38:53
  Speaker 3: threw to one batter and then sat down for a
• 1:38:56
  Speaker 3: half an inning, because no picture ever does that, right,
• 1:39:02
  Speaker 3: could he possibly would he go back to the mound
• 1:39:05
  Speaker 3: and I don't know, forget that he was left handed.
• 1:39:08
  Speaker 3: Would he throw twenty two miles per hour? Would he
• 1:39:12
  Speaker 3: just disintegrate into ash and float away on the mound?
• 1:39:16
  Speaker 1: No.
• 1:39:17
  Speaker 3: Turns out, Dan Jerry decided it's time that Gabe Spire
• 1:39:22
  Speaker 3: can go out after a third of an inning and
• 1:39:25
  Speaker 3: pitch the next inning. And you know something, he was
• 1:39:28
  Speaker 3: even better. To the surprise of all, it turns out
• 1:39:31
  Speaker 3: Gabe Spire will not die if he pitches and then
• 1:39:37
  Speaker 3: goes back out for another inning.
• 1:39:40
  Speaker 1: Not only that, he will thrive. What would the what
• 1:39:45
  Speaker 1: precipitated that? Did he have a more lefties coming up? Well?
• 1:39:51
  Speaker 1: Why the change?
• 1:39:52
  Speaker 3: I think they're a little concerned about his longevity durability.
• 1:39:57
  Speaker 3: Same with Brash. I there are different with all of
• 1:40:01
  Speaker 3: the relief pitchers, and I think there was a strict
• 1:40:05
  Speaker 3: Brash does not go down and back up again. A
• 1:40:09
  Speaker 3: lot of teams do this now, But it was getting
• 1:40:13
  Speaker 3: to the point where we were hearing how beat up
• 1:40:16
  Speaker 3: the bullpen is and how thin it is, and.
• 1:40:19
  Speaker 1: Yet Dan still will use.
• 1:40:22
  Speaker 3: Brash for a third of an inning or Gabe Spire
• 1:40:24
  Speaker 3: for a third of an inning. Well, what a terrible
• 1:40:27
  Speaker 3: use of your resources at that stage if you're saying
• 1:40:31
  Speaker 3: that your bullpen's thin and you can only trust three
• 1:40:35
  Speaker 3: or four guys and then you're only using him for
• 1:40:38
  Speaker 3: a third of an inning here and there.
• 1:40:39
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 1:40:40
  Speaker 3: Well, we finally saw over the weekend for the first
• 1:40:42
  Speaker 3: time this year that they used Gabe Spire to close
• 1:40:45
  Speaker 3: an inning, sat him, let him pitch the next inning,
• 1:40:49
  Speaker 3: and he cried, no, I got.
• 1:40:51
  Speaker 1: That, But yeah, why why this game? What was it
• 1:40:56
  Speaker 1: that they felt like, hey, we don't I don't like
• 1:41:00
  Speaker 1: the alternative, or was it the lineup that was coming
• 1:41:03
  Speaker 1: in in the next inning.
• 1:41:05
  Speaker 3: I think that was favorable for a combination. If that's
• 1:41:09
  Speaker 3: I think he's a little bit removed from the injury list,
• 1:41:11
  Speaker 3: so they're feeling better about his health. Number two, we're
• 1:41:15
  Speaker 3: in the second half of the season, so I mean
• 1:41:18
  Speaker 3: we probably are going to see at some point of
• 1:41:20
  Speaker 3: Munyo six out saves, so they're you know, I think
• 1:41:23
  Speaker 3: that's part of it as well. And I think there's
• 1:41:26
  Speaker 3: he didn't pitch for six days, so that's part of
• 1:41:29
  Speaker 3: it as well, because you know, you can't just sit
• 1:41:32
  Speaker 3: around and wait for the perfect situations to throw your
• 1:41:35
  Speaker 3: top two guys out of your bullpen. So I think
• 1:41:37
  Speaker 3: it was a combination of things. But it was good
• 1:41:39
  Speaker 3: to see, especially for somebody that has been harping on
• 1:41:42
  Speaker 3: this so much as of late, that Gabe didn't die
• 1:41:46
  Speaker 3: because he pitched an inning and a third.
• 1:41:49
  Speaker 1: Yeah. It was touch and go there for a little bit. Yeah, Yeah,
• 1:41:52
  Speaker 1: I was really worried. Is with the Hail Marys the
• 1:41:57
  Speaker 1: rosary beats be thankful on him, like this.
• 1:42:02
  Speaker 3: H is for hitter and the Mariners are looking for
• 1:42:07
  Speaker 3: a hitter. At the trading deadline, we got a little
• 1:42:09
  Speaker 3: bit of information over the week, and we had our
• 1:42:12
  Speaker 3: first substantial trade of the trading deadline, and it's taken
• 1:42:15
  Speaker 3: a while. The Boston Red Sox and the Washington Nationals.
• 1:42:20
  Speaker 1: Pulled off a trade.
• 1:42:21
  Speaker 3: And if this is any indication of what the market
• 1:42:25
  Speaker 3: is saying is the value of a right handed hitter
• 1:42:28
  Speaker 3: who it might be very difficult for Jerry to grab somebody.
• 1:42:32
  Speaker 3: The Boston Red Sox gave up a guy by the
• 1:42:35
  Speaker 3: name of Conley Early, who is got six years of
• 1:42:38
  Speaker 3: control left and has been sensational since he became a
• 1:42:42
  Speaker 3: major leaguer and looks like he's going to be like
• 1:42:45
  Speaker 3: a legitimate number two, number three starter in a rotation,
• 1:42:50
  Speaker 3: and they just traded him. The Red Sox are in contention,
• 1:42:54
  Speaker 3: but they wanted a bat and they had to give
• 1:42:56
  Speaker 3: up Conley Early apparently to the Washington Nationals to get
• 1:43:00
  Speaker 3: a guy in Curtis Mead who is finally having a
• 1:43:04
  Speaker 3: good season this year, but not a great season. This
• 1:43:06
  Speaker 3: is not like a top player. This is not like
• 1:43:08
  Speaker 3: adding Byron Buxton or Vladimir Guerrero Junior to your lineup.
• 1:43:13
  Speaker 3: It's Curtis Mead for goodness sake, and it costs them
• 1:43:16
  Speaker 3: in essence like an Emerson Hancock type just to get
• 1:43:20
  Speaker 3: a decent veteran right handed hitter to add to their lineup.
• 1:43:24
  Speaker 3: So if I don't know if this is an indication
• 1:43:27
  Speaker 3: of what the market's going to look like, but if
• 1:43:29
  Speaker 3: it is, you can understand why it's been so difficult
• 1:43:34
  Speaker 3: for Jerry to pull off a trade to bring up
• 1:43:37
  Speaker 3: a hitter, because apparently whoever is selling right handed hitting
• 1:43:41
  Speaker 3: is asking.
• 1:43:42
  Speaker 1: For a fortune in red. Yeah, well sounds like the
• 1:43:45
  Speaker 1: Red Sox gave up early on that prospers that I
• 1:43:49
  Speaker 1: don't know, I don't want.
• 1:43:51
  Speaker 3: To wasn't exactly an early bird special, was it, But well, uh,
• 1:43:58
  Speaker 3: we'll see how it plays out. But got to get
• 1:43:59
  Speaker 3: up early in the morning to pull one over on.
• 1:44:03
  Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, yeah, that just kind of empty net. You know,
• 1:44:07
  Speaker 1: sometimes you got to shoot, But uh, I don't know, Yeah, yeah,
• 1:44:13
  Speaker 1: it makes sense. I don't know who Seattle's in in
• 1:44:15
  Speaker 1: the market for. I thought Buxton has been he's he's
• 1:44:20
  Speaker 1: got a no trade clause, Yes he does, and has
• 1:44:23
  Speaker 1: the indicated he's not gonna wave it.
• 1:44:25
  Speaker 3: Been pretty firm about it. Maybe he would for the
• 1:44:27
  Speaker 3: right team, but it's not looking like he's going to
• 1:44:31
  Speaker 3: I'm gonna throw out a name though today something that
• 1:44:33
  Speaker 3: has not been tossed around here in this market, but
• 1:44:36
  Speaker 3: is somebody that I brought up in the off season
• 1:44:38
  Speaker 3: for the Mariners, Washington shortstop CJ. Abrams, who apparently they
• 1:44:44
  Speaker 3: don't really like. But he's having like an MVP type season,
• 1:44:48
  Speaker 3: and apparently the Nationals don't believe that they're in the
• 1:44:52
  Speaker 3: race and are shopping him around. He's got two years
• 1:44:56
  Speaker 3: of control. He's a switch hitter. He's better from the
• 1:44:58
  Speaker 3: left side than he is from the right side. He
• 1:45:01
  Speaker 3: plays shortstop, not well he is. He is about the
• 1:45:05
  Speaker 3: only shortstop in the game that has worse metrics than
• 1:45:08
  Speaker 3: what JP had at shortstop, and but he's crushing the
• 1:45:14
  Speaker 3: baseball this year. If he's available, I got to believe
• 1:45:17
  Speaker 3: that the Mariners should be interested, if nothing else. Hugh
• 1:45:20
  Speaker 3: put him as a d h this year if you
• 1:45:22
  Speaker 3: don't trust his defense, and then next year he's such
• 1:45:26
  Speaker 3: a good young athlete at age twenty five, turn him
• 1:45:29
  Speaker 3: into an outfielder. By by next season he replaces Randi
• 1:45:33
  Speaker 3: or Rose Arena and left field, and.
• 1:45:35
  Speaker 1: You know it's a Colt. Colt stand that short stop,
• 1:45:38
  Speaker 1: no matter what.
• 1:45:39
  Speaker 3: Maybe not, I don't say no matter what, I don't
• 1:45:42
  Speaker 3: say no matter what, but I think so he's he's
• 1:45:44
  Speaker 3: blow them and those alone two now, isn't he. I
• 1:45:47
  Speaker 3: think he got well, he might have dipped back below Sunday.
• 1:45:51
  Speaker 3: He got over it at some point this weekend. I
• 1:45:53
  Speaker 3: haven't checked this morning. Yeah, but so would this this
• 1:45:59
  Speaker 3: this guy be a third baseman. I suppose you could
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  Speaker 3: try it. I mean, what do you got to lose.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, Donovan's not exactly been great guns over there,
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  Speaker 3: and I don't think JP's you know, Greg Nettles, So yeah,
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  Speaker 3: maybe maybe you could do that. He's played some second
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  Speaker 3: base in the past. We don't need one of those.
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  Speaker 3: But the point is, if this team needs a hitter,
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  Speaker 3: this guy can hit, and he's young, and he's controllable,
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  Speaker 3: and if you're gonna have to give up a fortune,
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  Speaker 3: I know there are a lot of people that don't
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  Speaker 3: want the Spencer Steers and Elliott ramos is.
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  Speaker 1: They don't even want to see that trade for the
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  Speaker 1: Mariners between now and the deadline.
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  Speaker 3: This would excite the fan base because he is having
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  Speaker 3: like an MVP type season this show.
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  Speaker 1: What did you think of them? Dan Wilson pulling in
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  Speaker 1: the infield in the second inning on Saturday. Do you
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  Speaker 1: have a reaction to that? And then and then a
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  Speaker 1: double gets slapped down the line that that JP can't
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  Speaker 1: get to it.
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  Speaker 3: Third, don't trust the offense to score any run. You're
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  Speaker 3: already down. Yeah, they were down to run. Yeah, yeah,
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  Speaker 3: they don't trust the offense.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, a lot more teams have been doing that lately.
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  Speaker 1: But uh yeah, uh finally changing. Finally eyes for Italia because.
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  Speaker 3: Dom Can Zone has done it, big hit yesterday for
• 1:47:28
  Speaker 3: dom Can Zone. A little funny thing about dom Can Zone.
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  Speaker 3: He's really embraced this Italy thing. He actually is feels
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  Speaker 3: more Spanish than he does. His mom's Spanish. Oh yeah,
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  Speaker 3: and mom, his dad's Italian, but there's like more Spanish
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  Speaker 3: blood in in the Italian blood and the okay.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, but he's really embraced. But we had an eye,
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  Speaker 1: so we couldn't wait for us. Yeah it was an eye. Yeah, yeah,
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  Speaker 1: we couldn't wait for Spanish or any Espanya. Right, like
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  Speaker 1: we've already passed the East, right, that's right, we had
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  Speaker 1: an eye. Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: I don't choose this, the alphabet chooses it. You didn't
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  Speaker 3: even want to talk about this stuff, right, Yeah, I
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  Speaker 3: don't bring up the topics. The alphabet does it for us?
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  Speaker 1: Uh, Well, that was that was a hell of a
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  Speaker 1: bomb that he hit. That You didn't comment much about
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  Speaker 1: my my thought about how he threw the barrel out
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  Speaker 1: and like that. That was not you would not want
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  Speaker 1: to teach a hitting class on that swing. That he
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  Speaker 1: right because he threw the barrel out of the ball.
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  Speaker 1: You know, he had to go down and get it
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  Speaker 1: as the bottom strike sound, but it was he didn't.
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  Speaker 1: He didn't you know, most great hits, you know, the
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  Speaker 1: you're pulling the butt of the bat through and then
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  Speaker 1: the bat waits on the back foot the barrel trails man.
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  Speaker 1: He he stopped his hands and and and and threw
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  Speaker 1: the barrel at the ball. And unbelievable forum strength to
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  Speaker 1: be able to jacket that far. I mean, there's a
• 1:49:02
  Speaker 1: home runs and then there's home runs like there's no doubters. Oh,
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  Speaker 1: he's got power with a slot with with uh less
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  Speaker 1: than ideal mechanics, he was able to just kind of
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  Speaker 1: flip that thing. Well, and I'll give a miss because.
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  Speaker 3: He battled for a double earlier in the weekend and
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  Speaker 3: then he had the double down the right hiel line.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, I'd like to kind of see more of
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  Speaker 3: that even I mean, that's just battling, that's just trying
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  Speaker 3: to put the ball in play. But when you have
• 1:49:27
  Speaker 3: that kind of power, you're just trying to not strike out.
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  Speaker 3: And let I got fooled. I'm out in front and
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  Speaker 3: now I gotta do something.
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  Speaker 1: At least he put barrel on ball. And look how
• 1:49:37
  Speaker 1: far dom con Zone can. While we're on the topic,
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  Speaker 1: I could look it up, but tell me he was
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  Speaker 1: initially a hey, you're just a platoon guy. Then he
• 1:49:47
  Speaker 1: earned the right to uh to see both sides or
• 1:49:51
  Speaker 1: just to see both pictures. What's the update in that regard?
• 1:49:54
  Speaker 1: Is he's every day I know he's I know he is.
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  Speaker 1: But what are the numbers saying as the number? Or
• 1:50:00
  Speaker 1: is this is like cement this guy? Is Is it
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  Speaker 1: like like it's a done to faded like he's the guy?
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  Speaker 1: Or or is there still some numbers.
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  Speaker 3: I'm sure they would still like Juliocal and Josh to
• 1:50:12
  Speaker 3: be the guy and then cam z own hits sixth
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  Speaker 3: for you and provides power. But right now he is
• 1:50:18
  Speaker 3: the most reliable guy in the middle of your order
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  Speaker 3: and should be hitting third. You know, we were talking
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  Speaker 3: about the uh we gotta we gotta bounce. Yeah, all right, yeah,
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  Speaker 3: all right, One last thing. Next Sports Radio ninety three
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