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Pit Stop: Big Cars & Highway Bullies! · BREAK/FIX the Motorsports & Vehicle Enthusiast Variety Show

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  We always have a blast chatting with our guests about all sorts of
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  different topics, but sometimes we go off the rails and dig deeper into
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  their automotive and motorsports pasts.
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  As a bonus, let's go behind the scenes with this pit stop mini sode
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  for some extra content that didn't quite fit in the main episode.
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  Sit back, enjoy, and remember to like, subscribe, and
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  support Brake Fix on Patreon.
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  So, two quick things.
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  One, the five car deal.
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  I had more than five cars by the time I was out of high school.
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  Well, we already covered that in a whole nother episode.
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  We're all different, I think, is the goal of that.
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  It's the average person, not us people.
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  Yeah, the average person over their lifetime has more than five cars.
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  Yeah, I have more than five cars now.
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  Yeah, well, don't even get me started.
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  Other than that I noticed numerous times tonight that the
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  Toyota FJ Cruiser was mentioned.
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  I'm curious, am I the only person that when they see the one that's
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  yellow with the white top on it thinks really, really small bus?
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  No, I can see that.
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  They came in another color but blue?
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  Oh yeah, they came in a bunch of colors.
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  I've never seen them other than blue.
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  I've seen the yellow, I've seen the blue, I've seen there's a green one too.
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  I like the red one.
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  Yeah.
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  They had a bright red, it looked really good in bright red.
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  They're good looking cars, actually.
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  They're pretty sharp, I think.
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  About a year ago, I saw one that was yellow and it had a tire cover
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  over a spare tire on the back.
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  It had a picture of Big Bird and it said Big Bird Short Bus.
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  Nice.
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  That's awesome.
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  Those are harder to get into the back seat than the Elements are by a long shot.
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  Oh, I bet.
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  Doesn't the element have kind of a little suicide door?
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  Only on one side though.
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  Only on the passenger side?
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  Yeah.
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  The RX 8 had that too.
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  Well, better than the RX 8, but similar to the RX 8.
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  Yeah.
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  That's kind of like the Pacer.
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  You'll remember the Pacer's right hand door was a little longer than
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  the Pacer's left hand door for easier ingress and egress to the rear.
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  That sounds like a weird commercial.
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  Rob, you're, you're not one of the town car fan, are you?
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  I don't mind.
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  Like I take a Caprice all day and I'd love a nice, you know, a Donker, a low rider,
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  I'm a big fan of all that kind of stuff.
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  I grew up in a family of German cars and then my buddies would have Mustangs
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  and Trans Ams and stuff, but they were all more sort of svelte than they
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  were sort of the bigger body cars.
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  Yeah.
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  You know, my grandmother had a Dodge Aries.
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  One of the, uh, old K car, which was literally the worst car I've ever
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  driven in my life, and I've driven some doozies, and that thing, like,
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  you're like, oh, I'm gonna take a left.
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  It's like driving a snowmobile, like, maybe it'll go left,
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  maybe it won't go left.
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  We'll find out later and see what it does.
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  You floor it, and while it's floored, you can get out, walk alongside, and
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  catch up to it if you wanted to, like, It was a POS, and so that experience
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  sort of made me, going bigger to the Caprices, the Caprice Classics,
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  et cetera, were less of a thing.
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  I mean, I, like every one of us, I'm sure, like, you know, a Taurus SHO
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  came out, and I was like, huh, that sounds pretty spectacular, and the
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  bigger GTOs or Holdens, whatever, like, I think those are awesome.
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  Here's a little trivia thing I've learned.
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  I've never verified it, but I've learned.
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  The Crown Victoria.
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  was the first police vehicle to implement steel shields in the
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  driver and front passenger doors.
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  Exactly what are they?
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  4.
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  0 bullet resistance.
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  That was Ford that did that.
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  Nobody else did it.
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  You know, Chevy, Plymouth, they're all out there building their little police cars.
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  All they are is a performance package with a sway bar and quick ratio steering.
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  That's it.
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  Ford is the only one who's actually really taken that a lot, lot further.
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  They're amazing cars.
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  They really are.
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  I mean, you can still get like this couple of F one fifties and stuff in that price
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  range and that world too, if you want to go big truck, but I feel like, and your
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  kids are different, they get more space.
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  Like around here, I do not want our two trips.
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  The last two years have been over to Europe where they've gotten
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  an idea of like how small roads get and how big cars should be.
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  And so the idea of like larger, wider car is not something that.
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  Sort of endears me to being a first time driver's car.
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  I think we've already got the car.
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  It's in the garage.
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  Can't miss the opportunity to build the ultimate donk Caprice classic.
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  You take that 10 grand, you put it in the rims, double dubs, baby.
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  And there you go.
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  You're off to the race.
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  She's the coolest cat at school.
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  I'm telling you, man, that's what you need to do.
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  Dubs and spinners and lights got to be lights.
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  Under carriage lights.
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  Don't light the wheels, that's carriage.
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  Just under carriage.
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  100%.
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  Dubs.
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  24s!
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  Yeah.
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  Nobody, nobody uses dubs anymore.
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  You gotta get 24s.
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  24s on that thing.
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  When you go to high school, you pull in, it's still, it's dark out in the morning
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  all through the uh, the winter months.
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  You need to have like, the lights so they know you're coming in, just on the wheels.
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  Get the Spreewell spinners with the lights.
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  Uh huh.
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  Gotta do it.
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  Guaranteed.
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  I'm telling you man, yes.
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  Spreewell spinners.
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  This is every white girl's first car dream, a hundred percent.
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  Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
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  Underglow lights is a big thing with young kids in the local area lately, so.
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  It comes around.
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  So when I was, when I first had my first car, my buddy down the street had a 25th
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  anniversary edition Trans Am with full neon underneath it so it looked like it
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  floated with the 18 inch subs in the back.
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  We had four of them in there, I think, just basically
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  bounced its way down the road.
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  Had to have the windows open or looking for the hatch window out.
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  Yup.
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  Yup.
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  Exactly.
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  What's that car group?
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  Is it in Houston or whatever down there by town where they got those things?
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  They stick out like they're speed.
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  Not a boat of Sierra spikes.
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  Real huge down there in Texas.
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  They tried making them illegal.
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  Yeah.
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  They also have the wire wheels that stick way, way out.
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  They've got those things.
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  Yeah.
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  Actually, I'll tell you a little silly story.
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  Oh boy.
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  I know Eric, just pull my leash when you need to, but I love low riders.
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  I really do.
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  If for no other reason, paint, paint that goes into some of these low
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  riders is just absolutely mind blowing.
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  Hand applied a lot of the detail.
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  I'll hand pinstripe all that stuff.
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  You watch an artist do that, it's spectacular.
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  It's like, holy crap, the skill.
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  Oh yeah, what's funny is for me, this is kind of weird, Eric already knows my
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  obsession with, and I don't know if you guys know this guy, Bhagwan, the Rolls
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  Royce guru, have you ever heard of him?
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  So Bhagwan, the great big guru up in Oregon, he had 93, I
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  think it was, Rolls Royces.
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  And not all of them, but a good number of them were custom painted to the nines.
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  It was just incredible.
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  I had the chance to talk to painter.
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  His name is Peter.
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  His background was hot rods and speedboats.
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  Well, if you know speedboats of the seventies, they look like
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  bowling balls with designs.
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  I mean, they were incredible.
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  So that was his background.
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  Bhagwan.
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  And he started showing Bhagwan what else could be done.
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  Because Bhagwan just said, painted a different color.
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  I don't want them black.
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  I don't want them silver.
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  I just want them to look heavenly.
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  Not heavenly, that wasn't his word.
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  But he wanted them to look surreal.
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  So a few of them were painted solid colors.
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  And then he started showing the Bhagwan what can be done.
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  And that's where the really, really cool Rolls Royces came from.
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  Anyway, I got to attend the auction where those cars were sold.
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  When Bhagwan was Kicked out of the country and everything was seized as a
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  car guy from birth, those Rolls Royces.
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  I mean, they did everything to me emotionally.
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  One side of me was saying, what sacrilege son of a gun would
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  paint a Rolls Royce like this?
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  Who would do this?
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  But then another side of me, more of the hot rod DNA from my dad was
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  saying, these things are awesome.
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  This is so cool.
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  And then where I was sold stupid little.
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  However old I was, I don't know, 10 years old, nine years old.
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  Cars are all lined up at this auction site.
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  Bright sun, Newport beach, incredible day.
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  I still remember very vividly.
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  I remember taking my hand, not knowing it was really against the rules.
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  And just running it across the hood.
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  Two things struck me.
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  One, there were no hitches.
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  You weren't feeling where one coat of paint met the other coat of paint.
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  You weren't feeling it was all one sheet of glass.
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  And number two, despite sitting in the hot beach sun, they weren't that hot.
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  There was a coolness to them.
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  Very, very interesting.
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  Well, 40 years later, getting to talk to Peter, the guy who painted
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  them, I told him about that.
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  He said it had to do with the thickness, the paint.
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  He said the paint on those Rolls Royces, if you were to pull those off,
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  you're probably looking at about 40 pounds worth of paint all by itself.
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  It was incredible.
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  Actually, maybe that wasn't Peter who said that.
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  Maybe that was somebody else.
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  But anyway, that I guess helped absorb the, okay, Eric, I'll shut up anyway.
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  So yeah, custom paints, all this stuff, low riders going to William's
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  point of those wire wheels.
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  Okay.
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  I'll shut up.
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  I know, Eric, you can thank me later for not continuing.
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  Yeah.
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  So refresh me on it.
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  Cause I got a little bit sidetracked.
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  Was your choice of getting her, like having her get into the truck first?
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  Was that.
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  Like, in an automatic, was that based on how you started driving,
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  or was it something different?
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  That's okay.
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  So, other than the whole being bullied around type thing, this is something
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  I learned with my daughter, especially since she started out driving the truck,
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  is the fact that her learning to drive something big, I thought it would be
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  easier for her to go somewhere small.
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  But for her like going to something small kind of figure out because like the whole
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  judgment of everything was different.
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  It's good in the fact that she can judge because she has so much more space on
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  each side and behind her in front of her in the car compared to the truck.
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  But I hate to imagine the reverse of her if she was started out in
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  the car and then went to the truck.
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  Of what you may have possibly hit.
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  So that is one good thing with a new driver.
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  If you start them out in something bigger, then if they go down to
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  something smaller, then I think they're going to have a better awareness
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  of their surroundings and size.
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  If you can learn to parallel park one of those trucks and navigate through parking
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  lots, like then when you get something smaller, it's easy, but vice versa is
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  where you see people get into all those little fender benders for no reason.
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  I mean, that's actually a similar to like my thought of let's
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  get a manual and not automatic.
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  Cause you can't go the other way.
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  It doesn't work.
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  But I think you're right.
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  Going big to small is easier than small to big.
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  Same way.
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  Well, look at how many drivers are out there who went from small to big.
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  You know, how many drivers out there started out in Honda Prelude, then they
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  got married, then they had a family.
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  Bam.
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  Now they've got an Escalade.
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  It's mind boggling to go from one to the other.
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  Now, was there a car in between that was maybe a midsize that kind
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  of trained you up to the Escalade?
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  I don't know.
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  But I think there's a lot of drivers out there who are driving
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  big vehicles, but they were.
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  Brained on, taught on a little car.
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  And, and I, I see that a lot to a degree.
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  I disagree.
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  Like I've seen my wife go from a Honda odyssey to a full size frame on SUV.
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  And she definitely drives differently as a result of that.
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  She's not going to listen to this podcast.
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  So I don't have to worry about any fallout from these comments.
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  And she has kind of classic little person syndrome, maybe.
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  And so, you know, gets in a giant SUV, drives differently.
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  Yeah.
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  I mean, I think the number one thing I keep going to these cars get bullied.
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  Let's face it.
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  It's not the cars.
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  Bullying the cars.
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  It's the drivers.
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  Yeah, and that's one thing I've always tried to impress upon
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  Caitlin is I mean, she's seen it even the flex once in a while.
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  You get a big enough F 350 or big enough Silverado or Ram and I'm just
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  not going fast enough in the fast lane.
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  You know, 90 is just not fast enough.
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  So you have a choice if you can pull to the right.
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  And that's one thing Texans take very seriously is get out of the fast lane.
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  They take it real seriously out here.
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  So yeah, move to the right.
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  Get out of the fast lane.
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  Give this person road.
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  If you can't, there's another way to do it, which is back off throttle.
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  Force the guy behind you.
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  You follow your rules because you're in the lead.
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  They don't pay for your insurance.
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  They don't pay for your car repairs.
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  They don't pay for your hospital bills, back them off.
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  We've done it in the Honda.
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  I've done it in the Fiat.
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  I think my greatest achievement in doing this was when I first got it.
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  Convertible top window was completely round out.
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  You could not see through that thing and there was no right hand side view mirror.
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  So the trick I learned was if I need to make that lane change,
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  how do I know when it's safe?
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  Well, the thing was, I found the car that was ahead of me and pass it.
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  Now I know there's nothing behind me except that guy and
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  I should be able to move over.
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  So use your signals, slowly start easing over.
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  What he didn't tell you is it was at 86, 000 RPM in second gear, trying to
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  get that Fiat to move, but that's okay.
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  Nothing ever happens fast in a Fiat, really nothing.
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  But if you can get past that car fast enough to where you see it in your left
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  hand rear view mirror, now you can move over, but in that time, Did somebody
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  sneak up on their right and come in?
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  You see what I'm saying?
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  So you've always got to be aware of that.
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  That's why I always made that lane change really slow.
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  I got to tell you, I was so proud of myself for figuring that out.
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  That was one of those moments where, wow, they did something cool.
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  And as long as you're in control of that, as long as you maintain
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  your mentality, you're going to tick that guy off behind you.
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  But that's fine.
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  I don't care about them.
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  I care about me.
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  I care about not getting into a wreck.
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  So that's one thing I've been trying to teach Caitlin from the beginning.
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  So whether she ends up with a Fiat or she ends up with an Element or she ends
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  up with, you know, an F 350, whatever, she has that mentality of, you know
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  what, you're bullying me and I can't do anything to help you right now.
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  So I'm going to back off.
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  I'm going to force you a little bit to cool down.
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  I do think of that as, like, as a legitimate concern.
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  Honda Elements not gonna do that, but maybe one of the other cars does.
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  I don't know.
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  And I don't know if any of this rambling makes sense.
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  I can see you guys starting to snore non stop.
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  All that being said, Dan, you want to add to it?
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  Go ahead.
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  Real quick thing Don was talking about is driving that
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  truck that time he floored it.
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  We mentioned earlier with cars getting out on the highway and stuff.
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  My daughter was, when she did finally start driving, she was so set on not
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  taking the highway unless I was with her, and I didn't know this until afterwards.
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  Everywhere she went, when she put in the GPS, she had a void highway.
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  So everywhere she was going, I was wondering why it was taking
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  her so long to get places.
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  And then one day, I was driving her down to Gaithersburg to Children's
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  Hospital for an appointment.
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  I would tell her, I was like, throw the address in your phone and we're going.
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  And she's like, Dad, it's going to take us like two and a half hours to get there.
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  And I was like, it should only take us 45.
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  I was like, why is it's then I realized she had it set to avoid highway and it
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  had a zigzagging all the way down through Maryland to get there and I'm like, it
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  should not take that long, but it's one of those things where hopefully your
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  daughter will encounter something that freaks her out like it did my daughter
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  and it'll be something where you just taught you to respect the vehicle.
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  And you eased into it.
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  Believe me, for a long time, I was the king of no freeways.
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  I didn't want to go on the freeways.
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  I wanted to do surface.
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  It served a purpose, which was I was fantastic at getting around
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  town without the freeways.
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  So in LA, freeways jam up real easy and real, you know, you sit there.
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  So in a way, my 16, 17 year old self who didn't like going on
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  freeways, it worked out really well because I learned how to get around
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  Southern California without them.
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  But I don't think, you know, an element, I don't think she'll have
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  that floor in it But it's the issue of some other idiot driver out there.
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  And sadly, as a society, our driver abilities went
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  downhill in the past decade.
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  Horribly, in my opinion.
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  Having just driven in Ireland for a bunch of days with my kids.
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  Last year, I drove in Scotland as well.
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  Do your point, the quality of driving over there, you're on these roads
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  that are like one lane roads here and they're two full size sedans
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  and they don't slow down at all.
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  I mean, they're doing 60, 70 miles an hour and they're just like,
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  yeah, we just trust that, you know, the exact width of your car.
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  Put it right up where your mirror is just touching the grass.
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  It's over here that the height, you know, things, and I'll do the same.
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  And right by, and it's like the level of pure trust in your own ability and
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  the person of your approachings ability at all times, I was amazed by, and
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  my kids were noticing it too, like.
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  Because I'll yell in D.
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  C.
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  when it's obvious, like, two cars can pass and I'll watch somebody stop,
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  and I'm like, Why are you an idiot?
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  Like, there's plenty of room for two cars.
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  My car's twice as wide as yours, because I'm driving my wife's Ascent.
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  There's more than enough room for your little car to get by here next to mine.
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  Like, why can't you figure this out?
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  And so my kids have heard me say that, and they see the driving
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  in Europe, and they're like, We first got back, and they're just
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  like, Dad, this road is so wide!
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  To your point, it's that realization of like, there's so many idiots out
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  there, but it's an American thing.
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  You go over and about over to Europe and it's not that way.
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  Right.
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  I mean, those, those folks have that sort of understanding of knowing
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  your own widths of cars and such.
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  And it's funny you bring that up.
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  Cause coming from LA, not that the roads are comparable to Ireland or
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  England or any of that stuff, but they are smaller than here in Texas.
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  Even the lanes on the freeway are wider here in Texas than they
• 15:56
  are back in Southern California or just California in general.
• 15:59
  And it is amazing to watch somebody in a little Nissan Sentra need the entire
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  road to make a right hand turn off of one road onto the other and you're coming
• 16:08
  the opposite direction, they're coming around that corner and you're like, which
• 16:11
  road do you need for that stupid car?
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  I mean, I hate to be the bully here, but I'll tell you when I start seeing
• 16:17
  that when they're on my side of the road, I do what your Irish friends do.
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  I snuzzle right up next to him.
• 16:22
  I got to tell you, when you see the eyes of the driver of a
• 16:25
  Sentra coming head on with a flex.
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  No, I'm not an F 350, but I'm still scary compared to that Sentra.
• 16:32
  But you're right.
• 16:32
  And it goes back to what I've been saying, but it's a losing battle.
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  I'm sure.
• 16:37
  But try to train the drivers around you.
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  Try to get them to learn a little bit of patience.
• 16:41
  Try to get them to rein in that right hand turn.
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  You don't need the whole road to come around the right hand turn.
• 16:47
  And if you do slow down, you're probably going too fast.
• 16:50
  And that's why you need all that space.
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  True story here.
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  And it was actually with the Honda, not the flex, which may have been a good
• 16:56
  thing 'cause it's a little more athletic.
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  Same right hand turn.
• 16:59
  I'm thinking of Guy came so far around, I went to the left, I
• 17:03
  went on his side of the road.
• 17:04
  'cause he had so much of my road, there was nowhere for me to go.
• 17:08
  So it was either smack him almost perfectly head on or take over his side
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  of the road 'cause he is taken over mine.
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  And this is what I'm talking about with these people down here.
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  They are just out of their mind.
• 17:19
  They really are.
• 17:19
  And maybe, you know, a lot of people have brought this up to me.
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  Maybe COVID had a lot to do with this.
• 17:24
  You know, we had our lockdown, and for some reason we come
• 17:27
  out, now we're all impatient.
• 17:28
  Now we're all in a hurry.
• 17:30
  Why that is what happened psychologically to some of us, I don't know.
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  I really don't.
• 17:34
  Maybe that did play a part in how some of us are driving.
• 17:38
  I don't know.
• 17:38
  But I see your point, though.
• 17:40
  I do.
• 17:40
  And you're right.
• 17:41
  I don't think that Honda's gonna terrify her.
• 17:43
  You know, it's funny being a car guy, I'm sure all of you probably experienced this
• 17:49
  once in a while, sometimes you feel kind of alone, you know, that you're the only
• 17:53
  one in the family, or you're the only one in the house who really likes these cars.
• 17:57
  And maybe you start to question yourself, what am I doing?
• 18:00
  Why do I have these cars?
• 18:01
  This is insane.
• 18:02
  Nobody else likes them.
• 18:03
  Nobody else blah, blah, blah.
• 18:05
  My wife is very supportive of them.
• 18:07
  She doesn't care for them.
• 18:08
  She doesn't like them.
• 18:09
  She's not a car gal.
• 18:10
  She has the accord, point A, point B, no problems, drama free, she loves it.
• 18:15
  But I don't understand her obsession with Disney.
• 18:17
  I like Disney too, but then she takes it to a whole other level.
• 18:20
  But we support each other in, in what we like.
• 18:22
  And I think Caitlin's of that genre where she, when I get out there and
• 18:26
  start polishing on the Caprice, it surprises the hell out of me still
• 18:30
  that I'll look up and there's Caitlin standing there with a rag saying, do
• 18:33
  you want me to buff while you polish?
• 18:35
  Sure, go for it, you know, then she wants to learn how to polish, then she
• 18:38
  wants to learn what are you doing with that blue tape, what are you doing, you
• 18:40
  know, and so you're slowly starting to show her these things, and I think just
• 18:44
  the fact that she likes that brings back around that element in that this
• 18:49
  is a car she can probably have fun with.
• 18:51
  Well, oddly enough, my little girl's I think my eldest is
• 18:55
  infatuated with my station wagon.
• 18:57
  She loves going out in that thing.
• 18:58
  She's big enough to sit in the front seat now, which we did that
• 19:00
  a couple of times on some B roads, and she thought it was fantastic.
• 19:03
  She loves the way it sounds.
• 19:04
  You can throw it in a corner and, you know, 200 horsepower, who cares, right?
• 19:08
  All day long.
• 19:08
  My little one, though, she told me even the other day, she's like, Dad, do you
• 19:12
  remember the yellow car that we had?
• 19:14
  Like, what happened to the yellow car?
• 19:15
  This is, by the way, for fans of the show, this is the Aztec that
• 19:18
  we were fostering for a year.
• 19:20
  Because I didn't own it, I just want to be very clear that I didn't own it.
• 19:22
  Yes, you did.
• 19:23
  Don't deny it.
• 19:24
  I agree with Dan.
• 19:25
  You never signed the title.
• 19:26
  It wasn't mine.
• 19:26
  Doesn't matter.
• 19:28
  You owned it.
• 19:28
  Possession is not an offensive law.
• 19:30
  It was a common law marriage.
• 19:31
  It was a common law marriage.
• 19:33
  Common law car.
• 19:34
  It was common law.
• 19:35
  You owned it.
• 19:35
  So anyway, but my little one really liked that car because she's like,
• 19:41
  Dad, and it had the seats in the back and the way it looked and she liked
• 19:44
  the yellow and She wants to cook meth.
• 19:47
  Well, I guess, but she was really attracted to it.
• 19:49
  So it's really funny to see them already establishing their
• 19:53
  preferences at 10 and seven.
• 19:55
  And that's pretty cool.
• 19:56
  Right.
• 19:56
  But how is that going to play out to Dan's point where his daughter was
• 20:00
  at 12 and 13, where she is today?
• 20:01
  You know, those kinds of things again, though, remember the yellow truck, Dan,
• 20:05
  you brought up the word gun shy, which is really interesting because my father.
• 20:10
  Was very, very, very big gun enthusiast.
• 20:12
  And one of the first guns I shot, I was five or six years old.
• 20:16
  Gave me such a kick in the shoulder.
• 20:18
  I literally cried.
• 20:19
  I was so scared of that gun.
• 20:20
  And to this day, I have so much respect for guns.
• 20:23
  You have no idea.
• 20:24
  Little 22 piece shooter.
• 20:26
  I have so much respect for that thing because of that little boy
• 20:29
  in me who learned on a 30 06.
• 20:31
  You're going to learn baptism by fire.
• 20:34
  So it is kind of funny you brought that up.
• 20:35
  I constantly think the same thing.
• 20:37
  First gun I fired.
• 20:38
  Damn near broke my little shoulder.
• 20:40
  First car that I drove on my own as my own with my license scared the hell out of me.
• 20:46
  And I had more respect for that thing through our life together until it was
• 20:50
  sold to my brother in law and my sister.
• 20:52
  So maybe the Z28 would have, you know, the same effect.
• 20:55
  I had a 94 Z28 when I was a teenager.
• 20:58
  I I've spent too much money on cars my entire life.
• 21:01
  I've always owned cars that had far more capability than I had talent.
• 21:06
  And it's never scared me enough.
• 21:08
  I'll just put it that way.
• 21:09
  Nice.
• 21:10
  All right, Don, 10 grand.
• 21:12
  What are you buying?
• 21:13
  Um, yeah, and there's so many great cards out there.
• 21:17
  I mean, I'll tell you one that I really like, I'm not going to go
• 21:21
  Chrysler TC by Maserati, although that is a wonderful option and you
• 21:25
  can get a wonderful car for 10, 000.
• 21:27
  That'll serve you very well.
• 21:28
  But that aside, you know, any of the, uh, The F 150s, you know, and I'm thinking
• 21:33
  of the short bed single cab, similar to the Chevys, similar to, and the Dodges
• 21:39
  for some reason are always a little bit more expensive, and I don't know why that
• 21:42
  is, because I don't think they're as well built as the Ford or the Chevy, like the
• 21:45
  yellow truck, you've got a lot of power.
• 21:47
  You're going to have a lot of fun.
• 21:49
  It's a car you can mess around with, bang up a little bit.
• 21:52
  You're not going to worry too much about it.
• 21:54
  It's a truck.
• 21:54
  It can take it.
• 21:55
  It's a truck.
• 21:56
  You can abuse it if you're that mindset and yeah, you can move furniture when
• 22:01
  you need to move furniture, you know?
• 22:03
  So it's kind of hard to go wrong with a truck, but there's so many options
• 22:07
  out there, but honestly, Four grand.
• 22:09
  Yeah.
• 22:09
  That's a lot of money to spend on a water pump.
• 22:12
  And I, I have a feeling just, I'm a member of a, I don't know, he
• 22:15
  called him flex group on Facebook.
• 22:17
  Great group of people.
• 22:18
  Most of them.
• 22:19
  Aren't you president?
• 22:21
  Yeah, that's it.
• 22:22
  I know.
• 22:22
  Right.
• 22:22
  Everybody thinks I'm the president of the Aztec club now.
• 22:25
  51 percent 51%.
• 22:27
  Yeah.
• 22:27
  Well, here's the sick thing.
• 22:28
  I've had two flexes in my life.
• 22:30
  There's a guy up there who's had nine.
• 22:32
  I'm like, wow, you just blew my mind.
• 22:34
  But anyway, what I'm getting at is a lot of these guys do their own work.
• 22:37
  I mean, I've seen pictures.
• 22:39
  They got the whole front end off the car.
• 22:40
  They got the engine apart.
• 22:41
  They do.
• 22:42
  I'm thinking that is the biggest nightmare in the world to me to see.
• 22:45
  I can't.
• 22:45
  No, I don't want to see any of that stuff.
• 22:47
  And my second black car, which you can also surprisingly get for under
• 22:51
  10 grand is the Cadillac ATS two liter turbo, which was shared with the Camaro.
• 22:56
  Which comes in a manual.
• 22:58
  So, chew on that one for a while.
• 23:01
  Plenty of performance options, despite the 2 liter turbo Camaro
• 23:04
  not being that exciting, compared to let's say the EcoBoost Mustang.
• 23:07
  But there's a lot of play space with the Cadillac ATS, because there's
• 23:11
  a lot of things that can be swapped in for the ATS V, even though they
• 23:14
  don't have the same power plant.
• 23:15
  So, and it's a very good looking car.
• 23:18
  It's handsome, if you want something a little bit more
• 23:20
  understated than the Genesis Coupe.
• 23:21
  But both of those would be my choice, you know, as an enthusiast.
• 23:25
  All right.
• 23:26
  I'm just waiting for the outtakes where all I see is
• 23:27
  pictures of Eric going, Uh huh.
• 23:30
  Yeah.
• 23:31
  He did it three times in that sequence.
• 23:33
  It was really impressive each time.
• 23:34
  It was like a big, the middle one was definitely like a full on like, Oh, crap,
• 23:39
  I didn't get my It's pretty well done.
• 23:41
  No, it's okay, it's okay.
• 23:41
  I think Don with those small silences is just for that reaction.
• 23:44
  I think so too, it's so well done.
• 23:46
  I just need an outtake.
• 23:47
  Brad, I'll take care of that for us later.
• 23:48
  We'll get the outtakes of that.
• 23:49
  Uh huh.
• 23:50
  Now that we've gotten our pit stop out of the way, let's get back on track.
• 23:54
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• 23:55
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• 23:58
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• 24:00
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• 24:04
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• 24:07
  Oh my, I'm fucking this up all over the place.
• 24:09
  You know, he's supposed to proofread this stuff before he does it.
• 24:12
  Go ahead.
• 24:13
  I proofread the intro, not the outro.
• 24:15
  I like the break slash fix.
• 24:17
  Well, cause I thought I was reading the web address like I do in the drive thru.
• 24:22
  He's Ron Burgundy.
• 24:24
  Like, seriously.
• 24:27
  Rob, we can't hear you.
• 24:29
  Matt can't hear you now.
• 24:30
  You disappeared.
• 24:31
  We still can give you the tow rig.
• 24:33
  What should I buy it?
• 24:34
  Yeah, we got a lot of them still to do.
• 24:35
  Yeah.
• 24:36
  I think we should do a show dedicated all to the Chrysler TC.
• 24:39
  Nope, that's not gonna happen.
• 24:41
  That's it.
• 24:41
  Well, I wrote it down.
• 24:42
  It's at the very, very bottom of the list.
• 24:45
  Eric, I'm not sure I can talk anymore.
• 24:51
  I know how annoyed you get when I talk and I think I should just shut
• 24:54
  up and sit over here in the corner.
• 24:56
  My opinion doesn't matter.
• 24:57
  Thanks guys.
• 24:58
  Very cool.
• 24:59
  Well, thank you guys.
• 25:00
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• 25:01
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