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Trekcast 422: Star Trek Now with Daddy Issues · Star Trek Podcast: Trekcast

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  Speaker 1: The Galaxy's most Unpredictable Star Trek podcast.
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  Speaker 2: There is a way it's going on.
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  Speaker 3: It's going going.
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  Speaker 2: Welcome to track cast, everybody.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, welcome to track Cast. We are missing somebody, we
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  Speaker 1: are Yes.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, Dan is on assignment this week.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, he's got a special mission that's classified.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, very classified. Yes, secrets just make it even scarier sounding.
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  Speaker 2: Just everythiing we talk about it.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, it's it's a Section thirty one thing.
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  Speaker 2: So that's right, right, Section thirty one and a half.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, only only we know about it, and Captain Cisco
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  Speaker 1: has clearance, that special clearance.
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  Speaker 2: So mhmm, yep, right, that's right. But how you doing, man,
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  Speaker 2: I'm I'm a little tired, like I was telling you,
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  Speaker 2: uh yeah, recording kind of power outage last night.
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  Speaker 1: We got some crazy wind going on in the Midwest,
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  Speaker 1: and yeah, about midnight power went out, and you know,
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  Speaker 1: we got we got a lot of camping supplies, we
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  Speaker 1: got power outage supplies, you know, so you know, we
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  Speaker 1: got lights and stuff like that and things to charge bones.
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  Speaker 1: But it's still annoying and the dog's freaking out because
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  Speaker 1: the the smoke detectors are beeping and yeah, so it's
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  Speaker 1: just a lot of rigormarole. And so we got power
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  Speaker 1: back on about an hour and a half, two hours ago.
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  Speaker 2: So yeah, people are saying they know the mission dan
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  Speaker 2: is gone to rescue Chad from the basement.
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  Speaker 1: Well, I can't really talk about it that much, but
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  Speaker 1: I mean the power he got that much clearance.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, I was gonna say the power went out just
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  Speaker 2: as the rescue mission might do.
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  Speaker 1: Uh the basement. I'm just saying, computers a holding cell
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  Speaker 1: number one.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, wells do you have?
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  Speaker 1: Well number one is the main one, So I've got one,
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  Speaker 1: and I've already said too much. Oh we have we
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  Speaker 1: have battery backups for the for the power for the
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  Speaker 1: force field generators, and I'm not worried about that. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: we had the power came back on. We had you know,
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  Speaker 1: they had to realign the the EPs conduits and they
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  Speaker 1: had to they had to reinstall the phase inducers. So
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  Speaker 1: but we're finally going, We're finally good. So yeah, I
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  Speaker 1: was your weekend.
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  Speaker 2: Oh she's better than that. I went over to my
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  Speaker 2: sister's house last night and played board games with her
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  Speaker 2: family and the kids and her husband and her and yeah, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: I got the kids some of their favorite snacks and
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  Speaker 2: they were all excited.
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  Speaker 1: Awesome.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, it was a good time.
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  Speaker 1: So what are we doing today? What's going on?
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  Speaker 2: So I thought, with we've been talking a lot about Paramount, right,
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  Speaker 2: so I figured, why not let's review the Kelvin Universe films, right, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: for the next three episodes. So we're gonna start with
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  Speaker 2: the first film, the two thousand and nine Star Trek. Yep,
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  Speaker 2: that's the one. Yeah, yeah, so we'll be talking about that.
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  Speaker 2: We're gonna give our thoughts, you know, it's been a while.
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  Speaker 2: I also thought it was kind of interesting in now
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  Speaker 2: with the perspective of what we've had with new New
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  Speaker 2: Star Trek. Completly yeah, yeah, yeah, there's definitely some things
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  Speaker 2: to take away, especially with it's a lot of the
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  Speaker 2: same people behind the two thousand and nine Star Trek
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  Speaker 2: and new current Star Trek. So yes, yes, it's kind
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  Speaker 2: of interesting. So yep, yeah, Jesus, those daylight savings sucks.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I you know, I'm people ask me all the time.
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  Speaker 1: Some people, you know, they're like, man, how does day
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  Speaker 1: like saving time affect you? And I'm like, about six
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  Speaker 1: hours after I get up that following Sunday, that Sunday,
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  Speaker 1: I forget about it. Yeah, it doesn't really bother an
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  Speaker 1: hour difference, I can't tell, right.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, in the same way, it doesn't really bother me
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  Speaker 2: one way or the other. But we should we start
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  Speaker 2: with the news. Yeah, let's get to it Star Trek News,
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  Speaker 2: so our first news story, because you know, I did
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  Speaker 2: mention para a mount, So we've got to play the
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  Speaker 2: stinger that the circus continues. We have some more developments
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  Speaker 2: now in the start in the Paramounts buyout case or
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  Speaker 2: deal that's going on right now, and it is it
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  Speaker 2: is getting to be quite the drawn out process and
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  Speaker 2: will be even more drawn out because now there's a lawsuit.
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  Speaker 1: Baby oh boy.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. So what's been the hold up lately, apparently is
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  Speaker 2: another competitive bid has come So sky Dance Media is
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  Speaker 2: offering eight billion dollars to purchase Paramount, right, but this
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  Speaker 2: other investment group called Project Rise and their partners have
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  Speaker 2: given a bid of thirteen point five billion, thirteen and
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  Speaker 2: a half is far more than eight and.
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  Speaker 1: Thirteen. Yes, you're right, you're right.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, yes, yes, the scientists say it checks out.
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  Speaker 1: It's much gooder money.
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  Speaker 2: It's much gooder money. Yes, yes, And so now they're
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  Speaker 2: fighting over does Project Rise really have the financing for this?
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  Speaker 2: So that is what Skydance is a legend that it's
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  Speaker 2: made up that they don't have the money really not
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  Speaker 2: nearly as much as they say they do, and so
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  Speaker 2: it's not a legitimate bid. And so now they're fighting
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  Speaker 2: it in court. Oh how long will that take? I
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  Speaker 2: don't know, Probably not really that long because it's just
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  Speaker 2: figuring out the financing. But it's in court right now, which,
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  Speaker 2: as you know, the legal system moves so fast.
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  Speaker 1: I mean it's gonna be next year before we get
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  Speaker 1: right right there could be anyways.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: So yeah, so that's where we're at with that, and
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  Speaker 2: you know, we like to track what's going on with Paramount.
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  Speaker 2: So there you go. More delays.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, well you heard it here first, folks.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, more delays. Our next news story comes to us
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  Speaker 2: from uh, what is this I film? Yeah, oh, slash
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  Speaker 2: film dot com. And uh, you know, it's kind of funny.
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  Speaker 2: I found this story and I thought it was interesting.
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  Speaker 2: But basically Anson Mountain made Kevin fig cry. Kevin Fige
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  Speaker 2: is who runs the mc U.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, and so.
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  Speaker 2: Basically what had happened was when Anson mount spoilers if
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  Speaker 2: you haven't seen Doctor Strange and Multiverse Madness, but Anton
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  Speaker 2: Mount is in that movie. He plays black Bolt, and
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  Speaker 2: he had played black Bolt in a very badly received
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  Speaker 2: in Human show. Yeah, yeah, that's why he played the character.
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  Speaker 1: I forget that. Yeah, yeah, he was in because I
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  Speaker 1: haven't seen.
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  Speaker 2: It, right, right, this was before Strange New Worlds anyways,
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  Speaker 2: So when they brought him back for Doctor Strange, he
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  Speaker 2: got to meet with Kevin Fige. They talked a while
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  Speaker 2: and he learned that Kevin Figi was a major treky
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  Speaker 2: and at the time, you know, still Anson Mount is
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  Speaker 2: the captain of the Enterprise, right, So in between their meetings,
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  Speaker 2: Anson Mount went to the props department at Paramount and
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  Speaker 2: he's like, hey, can we do something special for Kevin
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  Speaker 2: Figy And so they made him like a plaque and
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  Speaker 2: a patch and made him an honorary Lieutenant Commander of
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  Speaker 2: the USS Enterprise. Yeah, and and kve Kevin Figi was
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  Speaker 2: very touched by this. And it's framed up and it
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  Speaker 2: looks really good apparently, and Kevin fig said that he
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  Speaker 2: cried when he opened the gift.
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  Speaker 3: He was so excited.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, he, I mean, he's a major major treky. I
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  Speaker 2: remember when when End Game came out, they talked about
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  Speaker 2: how that was based off the series finale of TG. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: so that that was kind and yeah yeah yeah. Okay,
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  Speaker 2: so there you go. You know, we're all nerdy here,
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  Speaker 2: so when I know we like the Marvel films.
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  Speaker 1: So absolutely, I'll watch every one of them.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, and then are yeah, same, same, except I have
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  Speaker 2: not seen uh, what's that one, Craven the Hunter.
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  Speaker 1: I okay, well, yeah I haven't seen that one either.
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  Speaker 2: So yeah, fair enough. And then our last news story
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  Speaker 2: comes from from Star Trek dot com. And uh, I
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  Speaker 2: know we kind of mentioned this last episode, but I
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  Speaker 2: thought I would just bring it up for real for
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  Speaker 2: you guys. Uh Nascell has opened up pre sales of
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  Speaker 2: their upcoming Star Trek action figure line. So we did
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  Speaker 2: that interview a while back with the c no Cell.
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  Speaker 2: These are the uh one twelfth scale figures about like
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  Speaker 2: six inches six to seven inches depending on the character.
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  Speaker 2: But they are now for sale or the pre releases
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  Speaker 2: or yeah, pre release sales are going right now. You
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  Speaker 2: can go to the Cell shop Michelle's store dot com
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  Speaker 2: and get them. They are running about like twenty nine dollars. Okay,
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  Speaker 2: there's even a bundle where you can get all the
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  Speaker 2: figures in one, you know, like the first Wave. Right, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: but see if I go.
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  Speaker 1: Maybe I'll snag one up so we can do a review.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, so okay, cool, oh declaim. So here we are,
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  Speaker 2: look at it in the cell store. That's kind of
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  Speaker 2: them all put together. I like my two viks, this
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  Speaker 2: chilling trying to live his best life man, right, But
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  Speaker 2: we also got to look at the packaging. So there
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  Speaker 2: you go. You can get the first Wave for two
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  Speaker 2: hundred and twenty five. Each figure is about twenty nine dollars.
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  Speaker 2: But I kind of like this packaging.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, and packaging is kind of important.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, because some of us don't open them.
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  Speaker 4: Right.
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  Speaker 1: It's a display, you know. So yeah, you know how
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  Speaker 1: you hang him on the wall or on the shelf
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  Speaker 1: or whatever you know.
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  Speaker 2: Oh high trick reviewer, hell reviewer. Yeah. Yeah. So and
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  Speaker 2: as you can see, there's like a lot of accessories,
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  Speaker 2: just like they said there would be, you know faces.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, comes with a flowering orchid and apparently two different faces.
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  Speaker 2: That's right. The orchid is the one that that binded
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  Speaker 2: him with a nelix and dubac.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, it looks like it comes with he comes with
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  Speaker 1: a phaser and a tricorder.
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  Speaker 2: Yep, and a little container. That blue thing is a
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  Speaker 2: little container. Oh okay, yeah, but one of my favorite ones.
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  Speaker 2: Let me see if I can find it here. Yeah. Uh.
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  Speaker 2: Val Chris comes with the Genesis device.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, So for those who don't know, Val Chris is
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  Speaker 1: the female. She was the one that was subordinate to
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  Speaker 1: Christopher h m hm Doc Brown's klingon character in Star Trek.
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  Speaker 1: It's right, mm hmm. So she was the one that,
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  Speaker 1: you know, not so nobly had to sacrifice herself because
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  Speaker 1: she knew right. Yeah, but yeah, the Genesis device is cool.
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  Speaker 2: And she's got a batlet.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: I couldn't care less about her character.
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  Speaker 2: But I know the accessors of this one is pretty cool.
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  Speaker 1: And and she got a decent klingon boob window.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah a little bit. But the other great one is Jellico,
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  Speaker 2: who comes with Livingston's little bull.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. Oh Living's this bawl. Yeah, one more thing, get
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  Speaker 1: that fish out of the ready room.
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  Speaker 2: That's right, and it's empty. The fish is gone.
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  Speaker 1: Do you know why he had that line?
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  Speaker 2: Because they wanted to get rid of it.
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  Speaker 1: For real, they wanted to get rid of it.
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  Speaker 3: Yep.
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  Speaker 1: And it never came back after that. Yeah, I would
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  Speaker 1: use that character as target practice with my Daisy Red Rider.
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  Speaker 1: Oh really, I mean, is there any I don't like Jelico?
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  Speaker 1: Nobody likes Jellico. I mean he, to be fair, he
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  Speaker 1: was exactly what a starfleet officer would be in real life.
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  Speaker 2: Right.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, I've I've served with I've known a dozen
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  Speaker 1: lieutenant colonels exactly like him, and he was exactly right
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  Speaker 1: in just about everything he did. Stanley guy right, Right.
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  Speaker 2: So I also liked that he comes with the Captain
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  Speaker 2: of card Day drawings.
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  Speaker 1: Oh you know, I think they're taking characters that, Okay,
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  Speaker 1: we want to make a Jellico, and that's what they're saying. Okay,
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  Speaker 1: but nobody's gonna want to buy Jellico. So what do
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  Speaker 1: we put him with? What accessories can we give him?
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  Speaker 2: Right?
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  Speaker 1: It'll make people want to buy Jellico? Like, right, I'll
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  Speaker 1: buy it just for the limits of the empty Livingston
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  Speaker 1: fish container.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, Chas, butause he's my favorite get out of here
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  Speaker 2: chances biz. He's a great actor.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, Oh, he is a great actor. I loved him
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  Speaker 1: in RoboCop.
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  Speaker 2: So yeah, so you can go to the cell store
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  Speaker 2: dot com and they've got all sorts of stuff. The
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  Speaker 2: way you un is pretty great too, So.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, what accessories all? He comes with it a catcher
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  Speaker 1: cell why container?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, and I think that's half a pizza.
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  Speaker 2: I don't know what.
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  Speaker 1: I think. You're right. I think that's half a pizza.
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  Speaker 2: That's a I think it's like the hosparad or whatever.
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  Speaker 1: That no if if that is pizza. That's a reference
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  Speaker 1: to the episode where he decides to defect and tells
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  Speaker 1: uh Odo all of the secrets. Oh okay, okay, and
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  Speaker 1: then he sacrifices himself at the end of the episode
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  Speaker 1: so that Odo will be safe.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, but yeah, I remember that episode, but I don't
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  Speaker 2: remember him having a pizza.
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  Speaker 1: He samples like one of everything from the replicator he takes,
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  Speaker 1: he takes the pepperoni, takes a bite of the pepperoni
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  Speaker 1: and said that was filling, and Odo's like, well it
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  Speaker 1: should be. You sampled everything from the.
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  Speaker 2: Replicators, fair enough, all right, Well, the toys are for
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  Speaker 2: sale or pre sale, so.
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  Speaker 1: I might maybe I'll buy one and maybe we can
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  Speaker 1: do a little review on the show.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, that would be great. But yeah, so
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  Speaker 2: that's what's going on. All right, any other news stories
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  Speaker 2: that you want to bring up or yeah, okay, power
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  Speaker 2: outage in the Midwest, right, fair enough? Yeah, all right,
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  Speaker 2: well let's get to the main topic.
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  Speaker 3: Fun will now comment.
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  Speaker 1: I'm getting reports in that it was red Squad that
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  Speaker 1: affected the power grid.
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  Speaker 2: Oh no, yeah, we'll have before too.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, we'll have more on that later.
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  Speaker 2: Yes, more on that later, news at eleven. Yeah, yeah,
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  Speaker 2: but uh yeah, so our our our main topic. We
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  Speaker 2: are reviewing two thousand and nine Star Trek what used
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  Speaker 2: to be called New Trek before, right, yeah, and now
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  Speaker 2: no longer New Trek the Kelvin Universe. When was the
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  Speaker 2: last time you've seen this movie before we reviewed it.
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  Speaker 1: It's been a couple of years. I've watched you know, clips,
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  Speaker 1: you know, over the last couple of years of some
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  Speaker 1: of my favorite scenes. I watched it again last night.
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  Speaker 1: I watched the director's commentary. Okay, so yeah, so that
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  Speaker 1: was interesting. The director's commentary is with I can only
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  Speaker 1: pull it up here. Uh, the director J. J. Abrams
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  Speaker 1: and producers Brian Burke and Damon h Lynn and Alex
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  Speaker 1: Kirtzman and Roberto what how do he pronounce his last name? For?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah?
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  Speaker 1: Okay, so it was with the five of them. So
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  Speaker 1: if you haven't seen the uh the commentary, I suggest
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  Speaker 1: you check it out.
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  Speaker 2: It was a lot of.
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  Speaker 1: Cool insights of you know, behind the stuff. They talked
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  Speaker 1: a lot about, you know, the They talked a lot
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  Speaker 1: about Spot and Leonard d moy and just getting the
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  Speaker 1: different cast members together. They talked about how some names
• 17:52
  Speaker 1: were like Calvin, where did Kelvin come from? That's J. J.
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  Speaker 1: Abrams grandfather's name, right right.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. I wish all these day spoilers if you have
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  Speaker 2: not seen this movie, but if you're watching this show,
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  Speaker 2: it's gonna say, yeah, it's the Internet.
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  Speaker 3: Man.
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  Speaker 2: People get mad for the dumbest reasons.
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  Speaker 1: I get it.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah. So anyways, so the movie came out in
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  Speaker 2: two thousand and nine. It was released by Paramount. Came
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  Speaker 2: out April seventh, two thousand and nine. It had a
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  Speaker 2: budget of one hundred and fifty million dollars and had
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  Speaker 2: a box office of three hundred and eighty five million dollars.
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  Speaker 2: So it made money, yes, it did. It was. It
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  Speaker 2: was the first Star Trek film in a long time
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  Speaker 2: at that point. With the complete reboot, it was. It
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  Speaker 2: brought in that new Kelvin Universe as opposed to the
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  Speaker 2: Prime Universe, which looking back, I think was a smart move. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: it basically rebooted it t os the original series. We
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  Speaker 2: had a new Kirk, a new Spock, all new characters
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  Speaker 2: for everybody. Yeah, Chris Pine was brought in as Kirk Uh,
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  Speaker 2: Carl Urban for Bones, and Sarah Crequenteou for Spock. Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, great cast Simon Pegg as Scottie. They they said
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  Speaker 1: in the commentary that was the only person that they
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  Speaker 1: considered for Scotty. Eric Banner as NERO an unrecognized almost
• 19:35
  Speaker 1: an unrecognizable Eric Banner. The department did a fantastic job.
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  Speaker 1: I also wanted to talk a little bit about comparing
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  Speaker 1: and contrasting the two Christopher Pikes that we've seen recently.
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  Speaker 2: I wanted to do that too.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah. Also we had a i think his first film
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  Speaker 2: role for Chris Sumsworth.
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  Speaker 1: Yep. It was also Zachary Quinto's first feature film role
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  Speaker 1: he had done. Yeah, he'd done some television. Most recently
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  Speaker 1: he had done Heroes.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, yes, I remember that, yep. So he was Silar
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  Speaker 2: and Heroes.
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  Speaker 1: He was Silent and Heroes Zoe uh.
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  Speaker 2: Academy Awarding Actresses.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, yes, John John Cho as Sulu. Now John Cho
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  Speaker 1: is a Korean American playing a Japanese American character, and
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  Speaker 1: he felt, h he didn't feel like he should take
• 20:38
  Speaker 1: on that role because he felt it was a Japanese
• 20:40
  Speaker 1: American character. And it was actually the original Sulu himself
• 20:46
  Speaker 1: who convinced him, Oh yeah, you should. George de Kay
• 20:51
  Speaker 1: actually told him, yeah, you should pursue this because Sulu,
• 20:54
  Speaker 1: George K said, represents all of Asian Americans.
• 20:59
  Speaker 2: Oh cool.
• 21:00
  Speaker 1: Yeah, so he was convinced. And then of course the
• 21:04
  Speaker 1: late Antony Yelchin as a check off who did played
• 21:07
  Speaker 1: the role. I just loved his character in.
• 21:10
  Speaker 2: This perfect plucky young Ye know what did they say?
• 21:16
  Speaker 2: He's a seventeen year old genius?
• 21:17
  Speaker 1: Yeah wait wait, waste the kid? How old are you seventeen? So?
• 21:20
  Speaker 1: Oh perfect, he's seventeen.
• 21:23
  Speaker 2: I love it a great bad accent.
• 21:27
  Speaker 1: Yeah, he's like there's that one scene where he has
• 21:30
  Speaker 1: to do the ship wide announcement. He's trying to enter
• 21:32
  Speaker 1: his personal code here nine five week two authors not recognized,
• 21:39
  Speaker 1: authorization not recognized. That voice was done by the late
• 21:43
  Speaker 1: Majel Barrett, who recorded her lines from home two weeks
• 21:48
  Speaker 1: before she passed away.
• 21:50
  Speaker 2: Wow.
• 21:51
  Speaker 1: Yeah, wow, yeah, so that was her last Star Trek Audi.
• 21:59
  Speaker 2: Well, let me bring up the Rotten Tomato score because
• 22:03
  Speaker 2: I thought this was interesting because I remember at the
• 22:05
  Speaker 2: time people Trekys were not happy with it, you know.
• 22:10
  Speaker 1: Right, it was a very divisive movie.
• 22:12
  Speaker 2: Yeah, they said it was not their Star Trek. But
• 22:16
  Speaker 2: the Rotten Tomato scores. Critics gave it a ninety four
• 22:19
  Speaker 2: percent and fans gave it a ninety one percent. So like,
• 22:23
  Speaker 2: people liked it.
• 22:24
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 22:25
  Speaker 2: I know people do this day who don't watch Star Trenk,
• 22:27
  Speaker 2: but like this movie.
• 22:29
  Speaker 1: I wonder if those scores have changed since it came
• 22:32
  Speaker 1: out in O nine, I would imagine, so I bet
• 22:36
  Speaker 1: the audience score has gone up. Yeah, and I think
• 22:40
  Speaker 1: see One of the things too, is that the Kelvin
• 22:44
  Speaker 1: it At first we thought that it was completely redoing
• 22:48
  Speaker 1: the timeline, and then they got some backlash, and then
• 22:51
  Speaker 1: we found out, well, it didn't really erase the previous timeline.
• 22:55
  Speaker 1: It diverged the timeline. So now you have the Kelvin
• 22:58
  Speaker 1: timeline and you have the the Prime Home line, and
• 23:02
  Speaker 1: and they've they've referenced each other in both timelines. You know,
• 23:07
  Speaker 1: we've we've seen evidence of the prime timeline, or at
• 23:10
  Speaker 1: least elements of what we've seen in the prime timeline
• 23:13
  Speaker 1: in the JJ films, you know, with with section thirty one,
• 23:18
  Speaker 1: and we've seen Enterprise era uh and Spock showed up
• 23:26
  Speaker 1: and what's.
• 23:28
  Speaker 2: That original recip original?
• 23:31
  Speaker 1: Yes, yes, the original recipe all all original nine flavors,
• 23:36
  Speaker 1: herbs and spaces.
• 23:37
  Speaker 3: Uh.
• 23:38
  Speaker 1: And then they've referenced they have referenced the the prime
• 23:42
  Speaker 1: or the what the offense in this in the Calvin timeline,
• 23:46
  Speaker 1: you know, with with Romulus being destroyed and things like
• 23:49
  Speaker 1: that in the car. So yeah, yeah, we else, we got.
• 23:56
  Speaker 1: We got a couple other notable actors and actresses. Ben
• 24:00
  Speaker 1: Cross as Sarah fantastic job, one of my favorite actresses,
• 24:06
  Speaker 1: Winona Ryder as Amanda, Spock's mother, Right, And I thought
• 24:14
  Speaker 1: there was a there was a deleted scene. There was
• 24:16
  Speaker 1: actually a scene involving Spock's birth that was deleted. That's
• 24:22
  Speaker 1: on the the DVD special features. But I understand the
• 24:29
  Speaker 1: way they did it because uh uh, Spock is older
• 24:33
  Speaker 1: than Kirk in in in Cannon, So the way that
• 24:37
  Speaker 1: they filmed it, in the way that they wanted to
• 24:39
  Speaker 1: sort of do it. They didn't want people to think
• 24:41
  Speaker 1: that Kirk was born first and then Spock, and but
• 24:44
  Speaker 1: I thought the way that they edited together was actually
• 24:46
  Speaker 1: really really well. Yeah, good Jennifer Morrison as h as
• 24:52
  Speaker 1: Kirk's mother, That's true, very brief, but I thought, very
• 24:57
  Speaker 1: good perform.
• 24:59
  Speaker 2: She did job.
• 25:00
  Speaker 3: Yep.
• 25:01
  Speaker 1: And yeah, you mentioned earlier Chris Hemsworth that scene at
• 25:06
  Speaker 1: the beginning of the movie. I remember, if I may,
• 25:10
  Speaker 1: I'd like to tell a real quick story about the
• 25:12
  Speaker 1: first Time film. So the film came out in spring
• 25:18
  Speaker 1: of two thousand and nine, and at the time, I
• 25:22
  Speaker 1: was overseas in Iraq, and I actually tried to get
• 25:25
  Speaker 1: my leave, my two weeks leave to coincide with the film,
• 25:28
  Speaker 1: and I missed it. So they played it. They played
• 25:34
  Speaker 1: the we got there was an advanced copy that was
• 25:36
  Speaker 1: sent to the MWR over there Morale Wellness of the
• 25:39
  Speaker 1: Recreation Center, and so we got a DVD copy of
• 25:44
  Speaker 1: the movie when it was still in theaters, and we
• 25:47
  Speaker 1: played it on this like you know, twenty five inch
• 25:51
  Speaker 1: thirty two inch TV at the MWR, and I just
• 25:54
  Speaker 1: remember it was like thirty of us gathered around this
• 25:57
  Speaker 1: TV with me in the sitting in the center. Because
• 26:00
  Speaker 1: everybody knew I was the biggest Star Trek fan, you know,
• 26:04
  Speaker 1: by far, and so everybody was like, yeah, we're gonna
• 26:06
  Speaker 1: go watch Scott watch this movie.
• 26:08
  Speaker 2: Okay, okay.
• 26:10
  Speaker 1: So I got to watch it in Iraq while it
• 26:12
  Speaker 1: was still in theaters on TV, so that was really cool.
• 26:15
  Speaker 1: But the scene, I remember, the scene where George Kirk
• 26:21
  Speaker 1: sacrifices himself. Yeah, everything about that scene was I thought amazing.
• 26:29
  Speaker 1: You know, I don't think there was a dry eye
• 26:31
  Speaker 1: in the house.
• 26:32
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it was a great scene.
• 26:33
  Speaker 1: The way they put that together with the music and
• 26:35
  Speaker 1: everything was just.
• 26:38
  Speaker 2: According to Wikipedia, Matt Damon was concerned for George Kirk.
• 26:45
  Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, okay, that makes sense. Yeah, because I heard
• 26:51
  Speaker 1: a rumor. There was a rumor floating around a long
• 26:54
  Speaker 1: time ago, like back in the early two thousands of
• 26:57
  Speaker 1: Matt Damion playing Jim Kirk. And he actually called j.
• 27:04
  Speaker 1: J Abrams and said, is there any truth to this rumor?
• 27:08
  Speaker 1: And JJ Abrams told him, Uh, you're a little too
• 27:11
  Speaker 1: old for the.
• 27:13
  Speaker 2: What we're doing.
• 27:14
  Speaker 1: Yeah, so.
• 27:17
  Speaker 2: That's interesting.
• 27:18
  Speaker 1: Would have made a great Kirk back in like two thousand.
• 27:20
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, but could you imagine him like showing up
• 27:23
  Speaker 2: as George Kirk at the beginning of that movie, all
• 27:25
  Speaker 2: a sudden, Matt Damon's.
• 27:26
  Speaker 1: There right right, yeah, and Chris Hemsworth like it can't
• 27:33
  Speaker 1: believe that that guy is the same guy that Clay Thor.
• 27:36
  Speaker 2: Right, he looks like a normal guy there right exactly.
• 27:40
  Speaker 2: Now he's just like a monster just right.
• 27:43
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 27:44
  Speaker 2: But what's really weird is I remember at the time,
• 27:47
  Speaker 2: like when the movie came out and I saw it
• 27:48
  Speaker 2: in theaters, I remember looking at George Kirk and then thinking,
• 27:52
  Speaker 2: is that the new Kirk because to me he looks
• 27:56
  Speaker 2: so much like Chris Pine at the time.
• 27:59
  Speaker 1: Yes. Yeah, In fact, they mentioned that in the commentary
• 28:03
  Speaker 1: that they were kind of trying to do a little
• 28:06
  Speaker 1: bait and switch on you. They were trying to Yeah,
• 28:07
  Speaker 1: they're trying to trick you up a little bit. You know,
• 28:10
  Speaker 1: you're now You're now the captain, mister Kirk, is what
• 28:13
  Speaker 1: the captain said, And they kind of wanted to confuse
• 28:16
  Speaker 1: you a little bit. And okay, because they yeah, they
• 28:19
  Speaker 1: do in the in the movie they kind of look alike.
• 28:22
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I mean I guess they were going for
• 28:25
  Speaker 2: that also, family resemblance, that kind of thing. But yeah,
• 28:30
  Speaker 2: at the time, like now they're completely different, Like I
• 28:33
  Speaker 2: can tell them apart.
• 28:35
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 28:36
  Speaker 2: But yeah, but the fact that that Chris Hemsworth, you know,
• 28:40
  Speaker 2: was a no name actor, so I didn't really know
• 28:42
  Speaker 2: his face, you know, like yeah that yeah, So yeah,
• 28:49
  Speaker 2: I guess we should kind of go over the the
• 28:51
  Speaker 2: premise of the film. Basically, they're in the Prime universe.
• 28:59
  Speaker 2: They're is going to be a cataclysmic event where a
• 29:04
  Speaker 2: star will go supernova and destroy Romulus, and so to
• 29:09
  Speaker 2: try to save it, Spock comes up with this special
• 29:12
  Speaker 2: ship full of red matter, which, when never explain what
• 29:15
  Speaker 2: the red matter is, is somehow going to save that
• 29:20
  Speaker 2: star or stop the star from exploding, because it'll create
• 29:23
  Speaker 2: a singularity, a black hole and eat up the star
• 29:27
  Speaker 2: and that'll save Romulus. It doesn't work out, and Nero,
• 29:31
  Speaker 2: being a Romulan, gets really pissed and goes to chase
• 29:34
  Speaker 2: Spock and they go through that black hole and into
• 29:38
  Speaker 2: the Kelvin timeline, and so that's what starts our new timeline,
• 29:43
  Speaker 2: and from there Nero is just on a rampage and
• 29:48
  Speaker 2: so they got to stop them. It's interesting that they
• 29:52
  Speaker 2: take out two planets, Romulus and Vulcan. Vulcan in the
• 29:56
  Speaker 2: Kelvin timeline, Romulus in the Prime that was later played
• 29:59
  Speaker 2: on in Card season one and two. Mm hmm, yeah,
• 30:04
  Speaker 2: they talk about the destruction of Romulus. So that's interesting.
• 30:10
  Speaker 2: That Carried Over film was written by Kurtzman, Alex Kurtzman
• 30:15
  Speaker 2: and Roberto or Resi or I forget unpronounced it, but yeah,
• 30:21
  Speaker 2: they wrote the script. It's so different compared to like
• 30:26
  Speaker 2: Discovery or you can see a little bit of The
• 30:29
  Speaker 2: Stranger World's DNA in it a little bit. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
• 30:34
  Speaker 2: you get that vibe. But yeah, especially compared to Discovery,
• 30:37
  Speaker 2: it's it's vastly different.
• 30:39
  Speaker 1: Oh, absolutely absolutely. A lot of people have said it's
• 30:43
  Speaker 1: Star Trek meets and I like an Apple store.
• 30:47
  Speaker 2: Yeah, because of the enterprise. The enterprise looks very Apple
• 30:50
  Speaker 2: Store like. It's very clean, very bright. The uh the
• 30:58
  Speaker 2: enter or engineering looked like a factory, just a series
• 31:02
  Speaker 2: of tubes and.
• 31:03
  Speaker 1: It was a yeah, the one with the giant bats,
• 31:06
  Speaker 1: the giant silver vats that was actually filmed in a
• 31:08
  Speaker 1: Budweiser factory are full of beer. Nice.
• 31:15
  Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, that's funny, that's funny.
• 31:21
  Speaker 5: Uh.
• 31:21
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 31:21
  Speaker 2: I remember the first time I watched, I was like,
• 31:23
  Speaker 2: what are what the hell are all these tubes for.
• 31:27
  Speaker 1: ARCO?
• 31:28
  Speaker 2: I guess I guess it just got to go everywhere.
• 31:32
  Speaker 1: Yeah, the scene where they beam beam were Scotty and
• 31:35
  Speaker 1: Kirk beam ont of the ship the transport beam and
• 31:38
  Speaker 1: Scotty ends up in one of the tubes. It's like, well,
• 31:41
  Speaker 1: I hope that's just water. Yeah, yeah, because if that's
• 31:45
  Speaker 1: warped plasma coolan, then he'd be dead in one second.
• 31:48
  Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, no kidding, no kidding, or very drunk. And
• 31:53
  Speaker 2: I like that they had like the escape valve near
• 31:56
  Speaker 2: the death machine as it was you have.
• 31:59
  Speaker 1: Near the blunder of Yeah, every starships a war plant
• 32:04
  Speaker 1: conduit blender.
• 32:07
  Speaker 3: It was the.
• 32:07
  Speaker 2: Injury look cheap. I didn't think so. I didn't think
• 32:10
  Speaker 2: that was.
• 32:10
  Speaker 1: More expensive engineer on the history of the plant.
• 32:16
  Speaker 2: Yes, I remember when it came out, people were mad
• 32:19
  Speaker 2: about the the redesign of the Enterprise, that it looked
• 32:22
  Speaker 2: too bulky. Honestly, I think it looks great.
• 32:27
  Speaker 1: Well, there's another explanation for this. The Enterprise is much
• 32:32
  Speaker 1: much larger in in this universe than in the prime universe,
• 32:37
  Speaker 1: and there's an explanation for that starfleet because of what
• 32:41
  Speaker 1: happened to the Kelvin started designing larger, more powerful ships, right,
• 32:47
  Speaker 1: and so that's why this enterprise is larger than the
• 32:51
  Speaker 1: prime enterprise.
• 32:54
  Speaker 2: So there are a few plot holes throughout it. Throughout
• 32:58
  Speaker 2: the beer, just a few, Yeah, One big one is
• 33:03
  Speaker 2: the neuro attacks and then is just nowhere for twenty
• 33:08
  Speaker 2: five years and then pops back up. There were deleted
• 33:12
  Speaker 2: scenes that he was captured by the Klingons and and
• 33:15
  Speaker 2: broke out of prison. They kind of touched on that,
• 33:18
  Speaker 2: with Jura mentioning that she picked up some distress calls
• 33:22
  Speaker 2: from from uh Klingon sources. Yeah, but that's that's about it.
• 33:30
  Speaker 2: One thing I thought that was a plot hole that
• 33:31
  Speaker 2: I haven't seen anyone discuss though, was every time Neuroship
• 33:35
  Speaker 2: pops up, that that black hole the lightning s farm
• 33:39
  Speaker 2: in space also follows it, like that shows up and
• 33:42
  Speaker 2: then Neuroship comes out of it, right, Like, yeah.
• 33:47
  Speaker 1: That's only happened the first time when he.
• 33:49
  Speaker 2: Right right, But every time his ship pops up, that happens. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 33:57
  Speaker 1: I never thought about that one.
• 33:58
  Speaker 2: Yeah. The other the one I too that that I
• 34:01
  Speaker 2: thought was a little bit weird is as Spock. So
• 34:05
  Speaker 2: later they meet uh uh Leonard nee moy Spock, right,
• 34:10
  Speaker 2: and he's he's telling, not telling, he's doing a mind
• 34:13
  Speaker 2: meld with Kirk. But they're telling the story. They're letting
• 34:16
  Speaker 2: you know why he's there, right, And one of the
• 34:19
  Speaker 2: things he mentioned is we created the fastest ship to
• 34:22
  Speaker 2: go and take care of the the the protostar, the
• 34:27
  Speaker 2: star blowing up, right. But then he says, but I
• 34:31
  Speaker 2: got there too late, so the fastest ship wasn't fast
• 34:34
  Speaker 2: enough apparently. Yeah, Yeah, that I thought was funny. And
• 34:38
  Speaker 2: then in that in that scene when he's preparing the
• 34:41
  Speaker 2: red matter, it's like he runs over, he goes like,
• 34:44
  Speaker 2: there's this giant red ball. They inject it with something
• 34:48
  Speaker 2: and pull out some of the red matter, and then
• 34:50
  Speaker 2: they put that into.
• 34:51
  Speaker 1: Some sort of hypodermic evil.
• 34:53
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Right, but it's like, okay, you're in the fastest
• 34:58
  Speaker 2: ship ever. Why didn't you prep the red matter on
• 35:00
  Speaker 2: your way and just to have it locked and ready
• 35:04
  Speaker 2: to go?
• 35:05
  Speaker 1: Yeah?
• 35:06
  Speaker 2: Yeah, is there a reason, like you can't break that
• 35:09
  Speaker 2: force until it's time? Like does that substance automatically start
• 35:12
  Speaker 2: to decay when it's out and so you need to
• 35:16
  Speaker 2: keep it maintained for as long as possible? Like I
• 35:18
  Speaker 2: don't know.
• 35:20
  Speaker 1: Yeah, the red matter thing was completely out of left field.
• 35:23
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it was just a thing they made up, you know.
• 35:26
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean I don't know why they didn't go
• 35:28
  Speaker 1: with something that we understood, you know, antimatter or some
• 35:32
  Speaker 1: sort of you know, subspace antimatter sort of device that,
• 35:37
  Speaker 1: but yeah, that would have made sense to Star Trek fans,
• 35:42
  Speaker 1: right right.
• 35:43
  Speaker 2: They could have said, our top engineer, miles of Brian
• 35:45
  Speaker 2: created this thing, and absolutely.
• 35:48
  Speaker 1: Yeah, so I'm sorry, did you have anything else before?
• 35:57
  Speaker 3: Okay?
• 35:58
  Speaker 1: Uh, there is a ton if you want to go
• 36:01
  Speaker 1: into IMDb, there is a ton of trivia and nitpicks
• 36:05
  Speaker 1: for this movie. People love to bash this movie. People
• 36:10
  Speaker 1: love to give you know, different their different perspectives.
• 36:14
  Speaker 3: On this movie.
• 36:15
  Speaker 1: And there are a ton of trivia items. Just a
• 36:18
  Speaker 1: couple that I highlighted. The first time that Zachary Quinto
• 36:21
  Speaker 1: met Leonard Nimoy at Comic Con, Nimoy pulled them aside
• 36:25
  Speaker 1: and said, you have no idea what you've gotten yourself into. Yeah, everybody,
• 36:35
  Speaker 1: all the original casts seem to be very supportive of
• 36:38
  Speaker 1: the new cast. Even William Shatner sent Crispine letters and
• 36:41
  Speaker 1: you know.
• 36:41
  Speaker 4: Yeah, you know, uh uh, Alex Kirtzman, JJ Abrams and
• 36:50
  Speaker 4: Roberto Orcie or yeah, all personally.
• 36:54
  Speaker 1: Called Leonardimoy and Leonard Nimoy, you know, basically had to
• 37:00
  Speaker 1: think about it. Do I want to do this role
• 37:02
  Speaker 1: again that I said goodbye to in Star Trek The
• 37:05
  Speaker 1: Undiscovered Country.
• 37:07
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 37:07
  Speaker 1: He had not done a Star Trek movie since ninety one, right,
• 37:14
  Speaker 1: and and he had said goodbye to the character years. Yeah,
• 37:18
  Speaker 1: and he did. He did Star Trek The Next Generation.
• 37:22
  Speaker 1: He did Unification one and two. It's about the same
• 37:24
  Speaker 1: time as Yeah, but his wife convinced him. Yeah. They
• 37:29
  Speaker 1: they looked at the script and his wife convinced him, Yeah,
• 37:31
  Speaker 1: this is the story worthy of, you know, bringing back
• 37:34
  Speaker 1: Leonard Nimoy one last time or what we thought was
• 37:37
  Speaker 1: one last time. So yeah. Oh, Zachary Quinto too. Zachary
• 37:46
  Speaker 1: Quinto could not do the Vulcan salute with his right hand.
• 37:50
  Speaker 1: Oh really, at the end of the film, he had
• 37:52
  Speaker 1: to have his finger glued together in order to do
• 37:55
  Speaker 1: the Vulcan salute, like, yeah, you gotta see it's fingers
• 38:00
  Speaker 1: sort of like yeah, because when he you know, usually
• 38:03
  Speaker 1: we do the Balkan slute and you're done, you kind
• 38:05
  Speaker 1: of separate your fingers. When he when he's done, he
• 38:08
  Speaker 1: just kind of goes.
• 38:08
  Speaker 2: Like this, Yeah, can you do it.
• 38:12
  Speaker 1: I can do it with both hands.
• 38:14
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I can do it. I can do it both hands. Yeah.
• 38:20
  Speaker 1: So where were we in the synopsis?
• 38:23
  Speaker 2: So basically what ends up happening is Nero captures u
• 38:33
  Speaker 2: Pine or Pike, and then it becomes that Spock is
• 38:41
  Speaker 2: the captain because he's the first officer, and Spock and
• 38:45
  Speaker 2: Kirk don't get along because they don't know each other.
• 38:48
  Speaker 2: And and from there, Kirk is marooned on a ice
• 38:52
  Speaker 2: planet where he meets Yeah.
• 38:53
  Speaker 1: They get in a fight and he's like, skip the
• 38:56
  Speaker 1: brig his ass off the ship.
• 38:58
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't want to deal with you.
• 39:01
  Speaker 1: See that Class L planet down there, Yeah, yeah, knock
• 39:05
  Speaker 1: his ass.
• 39:07
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Well they specifically say it's a Class M planet,
• 39:11
  Speaker 2: which doesn't look Class M to me. It's very frozen over,
• 39:16
  Speaker 2: full of Cloverfield monsters.
• 39:19
  Speaker 1: But very yeah, Cloverfield monsters.
• 39:23
  Speaker 2: Full of Cloverfield monsters. But they they somehow, you know,
• 39:26
  Speaker 2: they they meet originals to Spock, and from there they
• 39:30
  Speaker 2: meet Scottie and Spot goes, oh, here's a because they
• 39:35
  Speaker 2: need to transport it back onto the Enterprise. But the
• 39:38
  Speaker 2: Enterprise is traveling at warp speed and it's getting further
• 39:42
  Speaker 2: away and it's not possible, you know, from from the
• 39:46
  Speaker 2: distance that they're at. But Spock's like, no, no, no,
• 39:49
  Speaker 2: you you created this formula that allows us to transport,
• 39:53
  Speaker 2: you know, while in in warp and basically shows him
• 40:00
  Speaker 2: this invention that he created in the other universe. But yeah, uh,
• 40:07
  Speaker 2: so they get on the Enterprise. From there, they have
• 40:11
  Speaker 2: to show that that Zachary Quinto's Spock is. Yeah. Yeah,
• 40:18
  Speaker 2: they have to show that Zachary Quinto is emotionally compromised,
• 40:21
  Speaker 2: which they end up doing. And then from there here
• 40:25
  Speaker 2: we'll just do that, okay, So they show that he's
• 40:31
  Speaker 2: emotionally compromised. Crickets take takes over the Enterprise as captain
• 40:35
  Speaker 2: because he had been made first officer from uh Pike,
• 40:40
  Speaker 2: And from there they decide to instead of regrouping with
• 40:44
  Speaker 2: the Starfleet Armada, they are going to straight on take
• 40:49
  Speaker 2: on Nero because Nero is threatening Earth. Nero had already
• 40:53
  Speaker 2: blown up Vulcan and he was on his way to
• 40:57
  Speaker 2: do the same thing to Earth.
• 41:00
  Speaker 1: Hm.
• 41:01
  Speaker 2: I thought it was a great finale.
• 41:03
  Speaker 1: Uh.
• 41:04
  Speaker 2: Kirk and And and Spock end up going on neuro
• 41:07
  Speaker 2: Ship and they attack it and it is a big
• 41:11
  Speaker 2: long fight with all these giant platforms. There is, yes,
• 41:17
  Speaker 2: there are. So I'm just getting to the finale. They're
• 41:20
  Speaker 2: they're jumping around on the ship, which clearly has no
• 41:23
  Speaker 2: ocean regulations.
• 41:25
  Speaker 1: No no, no.
• 41:26
  Speaker 2: No safety handles, no, no, no ladders, no, just platforms
• 41:33
  Speaker 2: just you could. Yeah. A lot of guns for a
• 41:41
  Speaker 2: mining vessel, which is interesting.
• 41:43
  Speaker 1: A lot of guns, yep.
• 41:45
  Speaker 2: Yeah, a lot of really angry miners.
• 41:49
  Speaker 1: Yeah. And I like how they you know, they don't
• 41:52
  Speaker 1: do this with the romulins that often, but romulins are
• 41:55
  Speaker 1: an offshoot of vulcans, and romulins are three times as
• 41:58
  Speaker 1: strong as humans. Yeah, they're able to man handle, uh kirk.
• 42:04
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, Yeah. I do like that every character had
• 42:10
  Speaker 2: their moment to shine like a whor with with figuring
• 42:14
  Speaker 2: out some of the the codes, and Sulu with his
• 42:20
  Speaker 2: fencing even though that sword was not a fencing sword.
• 42:25
  Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, whatever.
• 42:27
  Speaker 1: Yeah, oh who ah. I you know, I was gonna say.
• 42:32
  Speaker 1: One of the things that they do on on the
• 42:35
  Speaker 1: Delta Flyers podcast is after they review an episode, they
• 42:38
  Speaker 1: talk about the winners and losers of the episode, you know,
• 42:42
  Speaker 1: and and I wanted to talk about the winners and
• 42:45
  Speaker 1: losers of of this episode, and I think the loser.
• 42:50
  Speaker 1: The biggest loser of this episode was then officer or
• 42:54
  Speaker 1: the communications officer aboard the Enterprise and Pike is like, uh,
• 42:59
  Speaker 1: I need you to you know, translate or whatever, blah
• 43:02
  Speaker 1: blah blah Romulin. He's like, I don't think I can
• 43:06
  Speaker 1: distinguish Romulin from Bulkan, and Pike's looks at Horas, how
• 43:10
  Speaker 1: about you ensign, how about you cadet ensign whatever, and
• 43:14
  Speaker 1: She's like, h yes, sir, all three dialects take over
• 43:18
  Speaker 1: for the lieutenant. Lieutenant dude, right, he's the biggest loser.
• 43:26
  Speaker 1: Aura is the biggest winner. Actually, the biggest winner in
• 43:29
  Speaker 1: this movie is Kirk, who went from a disgraced cadet
• 43:34
  Speaker 1: to captain of the Federation flagship in what three days?
• 43:39
  Speaker 2: Yeah, something like that.
• 43:41
  Speaker 1: That's the biggest plot point to be in the entire movie.
• 43:44
  Speaker 1: He went from a cadet to a quotified commissioned captain
• 43:50
  Speaker 1: in three days.
• 43:53
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's kind of insane.
• 43:55
  Speaker 1: Uh. Starfleet would have been all over that like, hey,
• 44:00
  Speaker 1: good job kid, congratulations, We're gonna fast track YouTube.
• 44:04
  Speaker 2: And said yeah, yeah, yeah, I I do like that.
• 44:09
  Speaker 2: Tyler Perry randomly shows up. We had Tyler Perry's star Trek.
• 44:16
  Speaker 1: Yeah, they made a big deal about talking about him
• 44:18
  Speaker 1: in the commentary. This was the first non Tyler Perry
• 44:23
  Speaker 1: thing he's ever been a part of, apparently, so I
• 44:27
  Speaker 1: don't even know how he got his start in Hollywood
• 44:29
  Speaker 1: if he's never been to anything else.
• 44:31
  Speaker 2: He's kind of made his own his own way. Okay, yeah,
• 44:37
  Speaker 2: but yeah, so so he was in there. I'm trying
• 44:40
  Speaker 2: to think what else was kind of funny to me? Oh,
• 44:42
  Speaker 2: we were gonna talk about the difference between the.
• 44:43
  Speaker 1: Pikes, Yes, yeah it is. Yeah, Uh I think I
• 44:53
  Speaker 1: love both of them. Do you bring something, you know
• 44:58
  Speaker 1: to the table? You know one one's gonna punch it,
• 45:01
  Speaker 1: one's gonna hit it, and uh I think uh I
• 45:07
  Speaker 1: think is more serious, Yes, I think. Uh. I think
• 45:12
  Speaker 1: Anson Mount is a little more whimsical. But they both
• 45:16
  Speaker 1: have kind of witty banter.
• 45:19
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 45:20
  Speaker 1: They both seem extremely capable, extremely confident, smart officers. You know.
• 45:27
  Speaker 1: Bruce Greenwood is great. I thought he did a fantastic
• 45:30
  Speaker 1: job in this. I love the scene even when he's
• 45:33
  Speaker 1: being rescued and he's paralyzed, he sees the romulents come
• 45:36
  Speaker 1: from around the corner and he grabs Kirk's face. Both
• 45:40
  Speaker 1: of them that that was great. The scene the end
• 45:44
  Speaker 1: scene in the movie when uh, when Kirk gets commanded
• 45:47
  Speaker 1: the enterprise and he walks over to Bike and he says,
• 45:51
  Speaker 1: I relieve you, sir, and and and and and Pike says,
• 45:57
  Speaker 1: I am relieved. And it was just you could tell
• 46:00
  Speaker 1: that it was it was both Bruce be Wood and
• 46:03
  Speaker 1: Pike saying that, Yeah, just you know, and the facial
• 46:08
  Speaker 1: expressions and everything just did a fantastic job.
• 46:11
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I think so. I think so too. Bronson says, Uh,
• 46:15
  Speaker 2: Jeffrey Hunter was also was great.
• 46:17
  Speaker 1: Also, Yeah, yeah, yeah, there was another person that played
• 46:22
  Speaker 1: Jeffrey Hunter wasn't available for There was another episode that
• 46:26
  Speaker 1: Pike was in in the chair and the makeup. Oh yeah, yeah,
• 46:31
  Speaker 1: so that was another character.
• 46:35
  Speaker 2: Yeah, another actor, right, Yeah. I Comparatively, which which style
• 46:44
  Speaker 2: of Pike do you like better?
• 46:48
  Speaker 1: Boy?
• 46:48
  Speaker 2: That's a it's tough, right.
• 46:51
  Speaker 1: That's a tough one. I feel like I enjoy watching
• 46:59
  Speaker 1: Anson mounts Pike, but I but I also feel like
• 47:04
  Speaker 1: Bruce Greenwood's was more authentic.
• 47:08
  Speaker 3: Yeah, so it's.
• 47:11
  Speaker 1: It's it was more fun to watch Anson Mount, but
• 47:13
  Speaker 1: Bruce Greenwood seems like he was more Pike ish.
• 47:17
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's kind of how I feel about it.
• 47:20
  Speaker 1: Okay, m yeah, both are fantastic actors, and both have
• 47:26
  Speaker 1: have brought you know, have done done good to thee Yeah.
• 47:32
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah. Yeah. It makes me, uh, it makes me
• 47:39
  Speaker 2: sad that we don't get much more of that Pike.
• 47:42
  Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, yeah, but uh but still it's a very
• 47:46
  Speaker 2: great characterization, very well done. I thought Nero was a
• 47:50
  Speaker 2: great villain, especially for an original villain. You know. Yeah,
• 47:57
  Speaker 2: Broughton's Anson Mount is his favorite bike. Okay, cool, Yeah,
• 48:02
  Speaker 2: it's not a bad answer.
• 48:03
  Speaker 1: They're both great, No, they are, They are both great.
• 48:06
  Speaker 1: How about Redos? Is there anything you would have redone
• 48:09
  Speaker 1: in the movie?
• 48:11
  Speaker 2: Yeah? I was thinking about this, so I think because
• 48:16
  Speaker 2: I'm so focused on screenwriting right now. Typically your main
• 48:20
  Speaker 2: character needs to have an arc, meaning how they change, right,
• 48:24
  Speaker 2: they go from uh, I'm afraid of swimming to now
• 48:28
  Speaker 2: I can swim anytime I want, right, right, some sort
• 48:31
  Speaker 2: of change, right. Kirk doesn't really go through one. He
• 48:35
  Speaker 2: is the same kind of snotty, you know, smart alecky
• 48:40
  Speaker 2: guy that he was in the beginning that he is
• 48:43
  Speaker 2: at the end. Right. He may have he may have
• 48:46
  Speaker 2: a little bit more confidence behind that. But but he
• 48:51
  Speaker 2: really doesn't change, you know.
• 48:53
  Speaker 1: So much so that spoiler alert for the next movie,
• 48:57
  Speaker 1: he gets demoted for that very reason. He's too cocky,
• 49:00
  Speaker 1: way over confident. So he doesn't change. Not only does
• 49:03
  Speaker 1: he not change in this movie, he doesn't change from
• 49:05
  Speaker 1: movie to.
• 49:05
  Speaker 2: Movie, right, Right, he doesn't really have an arc. The
• 49:10
  Speaker 2: one that you could argue that does have an arc,
• 49:12
  Speaker 2: and even then not really is Spock. Yeah, Spock more
• 49:19
  Speaker 2: or less has the arc. But and he's the only
• 49:23
  Speaker 2: one that does. Yeah, none of them have anything else
• 49:27
  Speaker 2: to change, right, That's the one thing. Otherwise, I think
• 49:32
  Speaker 2: it's a great movie, especially looking back at it now,
• 49:35
  Speaker 2: I think it's a lot of fun. Is it the
• 49:37
  Speaker 2: best Star Trek movie? I don't know. I put that
• 49:41
  Speaker 2: question out to a bunch of Star Trek groups, put
• 49:43
  Speaker 2: all the movies on a image and said which was
• 49:46
  Speaker 2: your favorite, including Section thirty one? Hands down? There was
• 49:50
  Speaker 2: no clear answer. It was either Rathacon, it was First Contact,
• 49:57
  Speaker 2: or The Voyage Home. Those were the three top one
• 50:00
  Speaker 2: I said.
• 50:01
  Speaker 1: In mind, I said, it's a toss up between Section
• 50:03
  Speaker 1: thirty one and The Final Frontier. Nice. My two favorite
• 50:08
  Speaker 1: Star Trek movies actually are the Undiscovered Country and first contact.
• 50:14
  Speaker 2: Okay, there you go, there you go. I think it
• 50:18
  Speaker 2: may be two thousand and nine Star Trek for me.
• 50:21
  Speaker 1: It's good. It's my favorite JJ.
• 50:23
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 50:24
  Speaker 1: Yeah, they did talk about the other thing that they
• 50:27
  Speaker 1: talked about JJ Star Trek was the lens flares. They
• 50:31
  Speaker 1: talked about how they did it, which is basically aiming
• 50:34
  Speaker 1: a flashlight just off camera at the lens. They talked
• 50:37
  Speaker 1: about camera shaking that JJ Abrams has a very specific
• 50:42
  Speaker 1: way of he actually goes to the camera and does this.
• 50:45
  Speaker 1: I mean he's doing that any and only he does it.
• 50:51
  Speaker 1: He only trusts like one other director to like shake
• 50:55
  Speaker 1: the camera, So that's sort of his thing. Okay, what
• 51:00
  Speaker 1: about other changes they made, Like what specifically, what did
• 51:04
  Speaker 1: you think about the out of left field relationship between
• 51:08
  Speaker 1: Aura and Spot.
• 51:10
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that was a choice.
• 51:14
  Speaker 1: People had opinions on that.
• 51:16
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I remember people did not. We're not happy about that.
• 51:20
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's well, I think it feels weird now because
• 51:26
  Speaker 1: now we know in the prime timeline we see Ahura
• 51:31
  Speaker 1: on strange new worlds, and it's a different dynamic. She
• 51:35
  Speaker 1: is a much less developed character, much less confident character.
• 51:40
  Speaker 1: She's much younger, she or at least she appears to be,
• 51:44
  Speaker 1: you know, and so now it's just now it would
• 51:46
  Speaker 1: just be like icky.
• 51:49
  Speaker 2: That's true. So it's completely different characterizations too.
• 51:54
  Speaker 1: I like the aura of strange new world better. Yeah,
• 51:59
  Speaker 1: and and not be because because of how they decided
• 52:02
  Speaker 1: to portray her, she should be somebody fresh out of
• 52:05
  Speaker 1: the academy, somebody who's not very confident yet, somebody who
• 52:09
  Speaker 1: hasn't had a five year mission, you know, who hasn't
• 52:11
  Speaker 1: done all these things. Because the arror that we see
• 52:13
  Speaker 1: saying in the Star Trek movies is she's confident because
• 52:18
  Speaker 1: she's done all these things.
• 52:21
  Speaker 2: You know. Action Saru would fit in this movie. Yes
• 52:25
  Speaker 2: he would. He would.
• 52:32
  Speaker 1: Hip pop it out.
• 52:33
  Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah. How do we feel
• 52:39
  Speaker 2: about that relationship? I I don't feel like it was needed.
• 52:44
  Speaker 2: I see why they put it in there, because you
• 52:47
  Speaker 2: needed a reason for Spot to vent his emotions and
• 52:51
  Speaker 2: to have that that emotional outlet. But oh no, we lost,
• 52:57
  Speaker 2: we lost Scott. I will take him off for now.
• 53:02
  Speaker 2: In the meantime. Uh yeah, you needed that that outlet
• 53:05
  Speaker 2: for him to to be uh explaining his feelings and
• 53:10
  Speaker 2: so having that relationship someone that he can fide in.
• 53:14
  Speaker 2: Let you have that storyline reason to do that, because
• 53:17
  Speaker 2: otherwise you just have a vulcan who doesn't want to
• 53:20
  Speaker 2: show emotions and so you never get that inner, that
• 53:24
  Speaker 2: inner depth of what he has going on. So it
• 53:26
  Speaker 2: definitely made sense. But as it continues through the series,
• 53:32
  Speaker 2: I guess we'll see how it turns out. I remember
• 53:35
  Speaker 2: not really carrying one way or the other, but it
• 53:38
  Speaker 2: just kind of depended on what people thought. Well, since
• 53:43
  Speaker 2: Scott is currently frozen and we'll hopefully come back soon
• 53:48
  Speaker 2: in the meantime, let's go to your guys's thoughts on
• 53:51
  Speaker 2: the on the movie, and we'll go to listener feedback
• 53:54
  Speaker 2: and then we'll bring Scott back in. So here's let's
• 53:57
  Speaker 2: go to listener feedback. Listener feedback, so if you want
• 54:05
  Speaker 2: to join us, Oh there is Scott. Okay, here we go.
• 54:07
  Speaker 1: Sorry about that, Like, I think the power outage knocked
• 54:09
  Speaker 1: out some cell towers and I'm I'm I run this
• 54:12
  Speaker 1: off my cellphone, so oh for.
• 54:13
  Speaker 2: Sure, Yeah it's fine. So I was inviting listener feedback,
• 54:18
  Speaker 2: so let me Uh, Chaz Busin is wanting to come on,
• 54:21
  Speaker 2: so let me put that.
• 54:22
  Speaker 1: I've got some emails too.
• 54:24
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, go for it. Go for it.
• 54:26
  Speaker 1: So I got one that was a Facebook message. I'll
• 54:33
  Speaker 1: have to.
• 54:35
  Speaker 3: See if I can.
• 54:37
  Speaker 1: Did I just lose you?
• 54:39
  Speaker 2: No, I'm here?
• 54:40
  Speaker 1: Hello, okay, good?
• 54:42
  Speaker 2: Yeah? Oh no, he froze again. Oh no, all right,
• 54:52
  Speaker 2: Well let's let's see if he comes back in the meantime.
• 54:55
  Speaker 2: Chaz business there, So I'm gonna bring him on so
• 54:57
  Speaker 2: that way I'm not alone. It's scary on the internet.
• 55:00
  Speaker 3: It's scary on the internet alone.
• 55:02
  Speaker 2: Huh, that's right. What's going on? Man?
• 55:04
  Speaker 3: Not much?
• 55:05
  Speaker 2: Did you did you watch the movie in preparation for this?
• 55:08
  Speaker 3: Well, I didn't know which ones two guys were gonna
• 55:10
  Speaker 3: start with.
• 55:11
  Speaker 2: So oh, we'll start with the person. We're just gonna
• 55:13
  Speaker 2: go in order O three episodes.
• 55:15
  Speaker 3: Yeah, so you're gonna do dness next, okay and the
• 55:20
  Speaker 3: last one? Yeah okay, yeah, Well I've seen this one enough.
• 55:25
  Speaker 2: I figured. Yeah, all right, Scott's back to.
• 55:30
  Speaker 1: The person who sent me the the Facebook messenger one.
• 55:33
  Speaker 1: I can't look at it read it at the same
• 55:35
  Speaker 1: time as being on the on the show. So go ahead.
• 55:38
  Speaker 1: And I know you said you forgot the email. My
• 55:40
  Speaker 1: email address is strong Beard one seven o one at
• 55:45
  Speaker 1: gmail dot com. Strong Beard one seven one at gmail
• 55:49
  Speaker 1: dot com. Resend that to me at my email address
• 55:51
  Speaker 1: and I'll read it next week. I do have another
• 55:55
  Speaker 1: one that I got, uh, I think I got this
• 55:58
  Speaker 1: last week during or just after the show. If I
• 56:01
  Speaker 1: can read it.
• 56:02
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, go for it.
• 56:05
  Speaker 1: So this one was Kevin, I can't pronounce your last
• 56:12
  Speaker 1: name l E U N G okay, and he says,
• 56:20
  Speaker 1: I think you guys kind of took a different tact
• 56:22
  Speaker 1: on the Renegadees YouTube fan made movie. Nah, not that
• 56:26
  Speaker 1: the opinion was wrong, just that in context, I think
• 56:29
  Speaker 1: it was good for a Trek theme show, and the
• 56:31
  Speaker 1: effort made was much better than Section thirty one. Give
• 56:34
  Speaker 1: them paramount. It's due ridicule for the shit movie it
• 56:37
  Speaker 1: was that it will do. They spent twenty times of
• 56:40
  Speaker 1: money and own the IP and have vast resources. The
• 56:43
  Speaker 1: fan made flick managed to get previous Trek actors and
• 56:46
  Speaker 1: a much better plot and accomplished a lot more for
• 56:48
  Speaker 1: much less. The acting sucked, yes, but you can't pay
• 56:52
  Speaker 1: a guy that gets three times that or more and
• 56:54
  Speaker 1: expect the same performance. Scal and income go hand in hand.
• 56:57
  Speaker 1: Just my two cents. The movie was crap, but it
• 57:00
  Speaker 1: needed to be said. It was good for the amount,
• 57:02
  Speaker 1: and how much better effort than Paramount has made from
• 57:06
  Speaker 1: Kevin Kevin's Kevin's trecky PSU. He said, I won't call
• 57:12
  Speaker 1: in because my voice isn't worthy of being broadcast, nor
• 57:15
  Speaker 1: is my face for that matter. That's something you and
• 57:17
  Speaker 1: I have in common. Maybe if I can find a
• 57:20
  Speaker 1: talking gift, I might consider. Well, thank you for the email,
• 57:24
  Speaker 1: number one. I appreciate that.
• 57:25
  Speaker 2: Thank you.
• 57:26
  Speaker 1: Yeah, And then he did send me another email. Watched
• 57:29
  Speaker 1: this one by Renegade's I think is a bit better.
• 57:32
  Speaker 1: Give him the chance, and it's a link. Maybe we'll
• 57:35
  Speaker 1: post in the show notes. I'll send you a link
• 57:37
  Speaker 1: to another fan made movie. So thank you for sending
• 57:40
  Speaker 1: me that email. Appreciate it very much.
• 57:42
  Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, thank you.
• 57:44
  Speaker 1: All Right, what's up, Chad Viz?
• 57:46
  Speaker 3: What's up?
• 57:47
  Speaker 2: You don't tell us his thoughts on the movie?
• 57:49
  Speaker 3: Okay, Yeah, I mean it was awesome to see it
• 57:54
  Speaker 3: back in the day. Yeah, because did you like it
• 57:57
  Speaker 3: back then? Or yeah, yeah, I loved it. I was
• 58:00
  Speaker 3: super excited. I was like, at first, I was skeptical
• 58:04
  Speaker 3: because I was like, they shouldn't reboot it. It was
• 58:08
  Speaker 3: my first thoughts and I walked out in the movie
• 58:10
  Speaker 3: theater just smiling. I was like, that was fun. Okay,
• 58:14
  Speaker 3: It's like that was actually a really fun movie, and
• 58:16
  Speaker 3: there's hope for Star Trek. Yeah, and then it kind
• 58:20
  Speaker 3: of went downhill from there.
• 58:22
  Speaker 2: So I I do remember that uniform was a fairly
• 58:27
  Speaker 2: popular Halloween costume.
• 58:29
  Speaker 3: It was cool. Yeah, yeah, about the only thing I
• 58:33
  Speaker 3: didn't like about the movie was the enterprise m I
• 58:37
  Speaker 3: wasn't a fan of that enter Reid like.
• 58:38
  Speaker 2: The you didn't like it.
• 58:40
  Speaker 3: It was like it looked like the Apple Story. And
• 58:43
  Speaker 3: I thought the engine room just looked like you just
• 58:45
  Speaker 3: went out.
• 58:46
  Speaker 2: On the engine room.
• 58:47
  Speaker 3: What you could tell it was like you went to
• 58:49
  Speaker 3: a warehouse and went to a brewery and it doesn't
• 58:52
  Speaker 3: look like an engine room. Yeah, it's like you guys
• 58:56
  Speaker 3: were cheap and didn't want to make a set, so
• 58:58
  Speaker 3: you're just like, hey, we're gonna make this the dream here.
• 59:01
  Speaker 3: So yeah, and then you're like, well, how big is
• 59:06
  Speaker 3: this thing? Because if you're on a ship, you're in
• 59:10
  Speaker 3: confined spaces, right, I mean real estate on the ship
• 59:14
  Speaker 3: is worth a lot.
• 59:16
  Speaker 2: That's huge, Yeah, a lot of open spaces and.
• 59:22
  Speaker 3: You don't waste you don't waste space on a ship
• 59:24
  Speaker 3: everything has to be precisely done.
• 59:28
  Speaker 2: You need vaulted ceilings here, yeahesthetic.
• 59:32
  Speaker 3: And that's my complain about Strange New Worlds is the
• 59:34
  Speaker 3: enterprise is too big.
• 59:36
  Speaker 2: Mhmm.
• 59:37
  Speaker 3: It's like, you know, Pike's rooms, Giant has the kitchen
• 59:40
  Speaker 3: all this. It's like, no, you would have smaller quarters,
• 59:46
  Speaker 3: especially after coming off a cruise ship because you see,
• 59:49
  Speaker 3: like you see your cabin room and you pay a
• 59:52
  Speaker 3: lot for your cabin room and it's.
• 59:56
  Speaker 2: Tiny. Yeah yeah, fair enough, fair enough and all right.
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 3: I don't know, it's like but I besides that, you know,
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 3: the actors were great.
• 1:00:07
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 3: I thought Bones was my favorite character on there. I
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 3: thought he did a great job. Oh what's what's the
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 3: flactor's name?
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 2: Yeah, he's gonna be Johnny Cage.
• 1:00:24
  Speaker 3: Oh is he?
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah yeah, it's like that. It's weird not hearing
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 2: him yell at hueye yeah yeah, yeah, absolutely.
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 3: Yeah.
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 2: Don't you know in my head that shows Boimler and Bones.
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 1: Spheres, Yes, yes, yeah, I love the Boys.
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 3: What's funny because it looks so different in the Boys
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 3: because he's the butcher and he's just a jerk, you know. Yeah,
• 1:00:56
  Speaker 3: it's kind of like he's really the bad guys. Is
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 3: it the boys or is the other.
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 2: That's the whole point of the Boys?
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 3: Yeah?
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 1: Right, yeah, but the other one, I mean Bolen and
• 1:01:08
  Speaker 1: the other guy he plays kind of the same you know, yeah,
• 1:01:12
  Speaker 1: he plays the same character.
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 2: Does does rewatching this Scott make you want a fourth
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 2: Kelvin film or not?
• 1:01:20
  Speaker 3: I wanted one?
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 1: No?
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 3: No?
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 1: And I know why they I mean, you know, every
• 1:01:26
  Speaker 1: time you say fourth Kelvin film, all I think about
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 1: is Antony Elson, right yeah, you know, in the tragic
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 1: way that he died, the freak way that he died,
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 1: And I just I don't think that's a great way
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 1: to to deal with that. You recast him? Do you
• 1:01:41
  Speaker 1: say that he died? What do you do? Well, they
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 1: told their story. The Kelvin timeline story has been told, right, yeah,
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 1: so reference it, sure, you know, do maybe a slight
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 1: crossover where one character, you know, maybe, But no, I
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 1: need a fourth film.
• 1:01:59
  Speaker 3: Will they be older if they remake or make another Kilvin?
• 1:02:04
  Speaker 3: Then the Star Trek cast was when they first Oh.
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I think so, yeah, enough time has passed. They're
• 1:02:14
  Speaker 1: past their five year mission now, yeah, yeah, they're almost
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 1: I mean they're in they're venturing into the motion picture territory.
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 3: Why they're getting close to that when you think about.
• 1:02:26
  Speaker 1: It, I think they're past They might even be past
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 1: the motion picture age wise. Yeah, Chris Ban has got
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 1: to be in his what late thirties?
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 2: I think he's in his.
• 1:02:35
  Speaker 3: All right, she's like forty five six.
• 1:02:38
  Speaker 1: Well then how old was William?
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 3: Okay, so how.
• 1:02:42
  Speaker 1: Old was William Shatner in nineteen seventy seven?
• 1:02:46
  Speaker 3: For he's born in what thirty thirty or something like that.
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 3: Let's see math Hurts.
• 1:02:57
  Speaker 2: In Star Trek the Motion picture he was forty eight.
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 1: Okay, Well there you go. So yeah, pretty close.
• 1:03:04
  Speaker 3: So the motion picture age when you think about it.
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 2: So, yeah, well then they can fight the Genesis device.
• 1:03:11
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I think you could do it, right, But you
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 3: know one thing about Checkof, Like he wasn't even in
• 1:03:19
  Speaker 3: the first season so right of the series, and you know,
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 3: he kind of have limited screen time. I know it's
• 1:03:27
  Speaker 3: sad he passed, but you could you can still do
• 1:03:31
  Speaker 3: the movie without Checkoff And.
• 1:03:33
  Speaker 2: You could you could, yeah, but you know, so, but
• 1:03:39
  Speaker 2: he is, I mean he was.
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 3: Checkof.
• 1:03:42
  Speaker 2: So yeah, Like they introduced that one character in the
• 1:03:47
  Speaker 2: third film, I forget her name. The the girl they
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 2: meet on the planet.
• 1:03:54
  Speaker 3: Uh with the black and white.
• 1:03:56
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I mean, oh there goes.
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 1: I wouldn't mind seeing more more of her.
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 2: She was cool, yeah, but I mean she could fill
• 1:04:05
  Speaker 2: that checkof rule, like not the genius, but she was
• 1:04:08
  Speaker 2: a good mechanic.
• 1:04:09
  Speaker 1: And yeah, yeah that's true.
• 1:04:12
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I went to I made the mistake try to
• 1:04:15
  Speaker 3: Google on my phone, and when I did that, it
• 1:04:18
  Speaker 3: made you I was.
• 1:04:18
  Speaker 1: Looking for her name, and then I went that, I've
• 1:04:22
  Speaker 1: had to actually get another phone, and plus I've got
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 1: a tablet in case I need to Yeah.
• 1:04:29
  Speaker 3: Well, you usually have my computer here, I have the
• 1:04:32
  Speaker 3: cleaning lady in the house.
• 1:04:33
  Speaker 2: So you could do it with an older lookke person.
• 1:04:37
  Speaker 2: I don't think so, maybe, like if he's just in
• 1:04:39
  Speaker 2: the background of a scene, but.
• 1:04:42
  Speaker 1: Or they could, you know, they could just I don't know.
• 1:04:45
  Speaker 1: Would you want to talk to the family about it.
• 1:04:47
  Speaker 1: You don't want to see the ie it, No, but
• 1:04:51
  Speaker 1: they could do something like you know that you you
• 1:04:53
  Speaker 1: start the movie out at his memorial service. Yeah, and
• 1:04:58
  Speaker 1: and as long as you got Yelton's Family's approval of that,
• 1:05:03
  Speaker 1: you know, say that he died violently saving the planet
• 1:05:08
  Speaker 1: against you know, the vodka marauders or something.
• 1:05:12
  Speaker 2: You know, I think you could do like just me
• 1:05:19
  Speaker 2: spitballing here. Right, you don't start with the whole crew.
• 1:05:24
  Speaker 2: You start with maybe like Kirk and Spock, right, And
• 1:05:28
  Speaker 2: and it is Kirk's retirement or Kirk's because it's been
• 1:05:33
  Speaker 2: so much time, right, So, so Kirk is leaving the Enterprise,
• 1:05:36
  Speaker 2: this is it, right, And some two of them are
• 1:05:38
  Speaker 2: just hanging out, you know, it's a last trip and
• 1:05:42
  Speaker 2: they need to to go somewhere for the big ceremony
• 1:05:46
  Speaker 2: or something like that, and on their way they get
• 1:05:49
  Speaker 2: intercepted with the emergency distress from maybe Ahora, who's now
• 1:05:53
  Speaker 2: serving on another ship because it's been so long, right,
• 1:05:57
  Speaker 2: And so throughout the story, you're collecting members of the
• 1:06:01
  Speaker 2: crew to fight whatever problem it is. Right, So you
• 1:06:06
  Speaker 2: give each character their moment to shine, but you're collecting them.
• 1:06:11
  Speaker 2: And then you could even do like, oh, we gotta
• 1:06:12
  Speaker 2: go get check off. You could either he's over here
• 1:06:17
  Speaker 2: and he's busy and we can't get a hold of him,
• 1:06:19
  Speaker 2: or or the ship that he's on gets attacked and
• 1:06:23
  Speaker 2: maybe he perished.
• 1:06:24
  Speaker 3: Is this pick card season thirty now?
• 1:06:27
  Speaker 2: Basically yeah, yeah, but no, but that kind of technical.
• 1:06:30
  Speaker 3: Right, yeah, picking up the crew.
• 1:06:32
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you're picking up the crew. You go fight the
• 1:06:34
  Speaker 2: threat and then you come.
• 1:06:35
  Speaker 3: Back and then something happens. Boom, he dies, you know,
• 1:06:39
  Speaker 3: sad part. Yeah, so you see check off boom, ship
• 1:06:43
  Speaker 3: blows up. Yeah, they're like stunned. Now they got to
• 1:06:46
  Speaker 3: get their events.
• 1:06:47
  Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, like he comes on the screen for just
• 1:06:50
  Speaker 2: a hot second, boom explodes, you know. Yeah, something you know.
• 1:06:55
  Speaker 1: I'm telling you hashtag Daniel riz as a new Star
• 1:06:58
  Speaker 1: Trek writer.
• 1:07:01
  Speaker 3: But they.
• 1:07:03
  Speaker 2: It's very it's it's very just string together that you
• 1:07:07
  Speaker 2: need more to it than that. But yeah, it's the framework.
• 1:07:10
  Speaker 3: So yeah, you can ride in the crying emotions scenes.
• 1:07:15
  Speaker 2: That's right. That's right, all the crime.
• 1:07:17
  Speaker 3: Now, yes, please do that.
• 1:07:21
  Speaker 2: I wonder if they would add that in.
• 1:07:25
  Speaker 3: And the Dan could add all the race.
• 1:07:28
  Speaker 2: I wonder, yeah, I wonder from because of Discovery they
• 1:07:31
  Speaker 2: would be like, okay, now we'd interject some crying. Yes, yeah, jeez,
• 1:07:40
  Speaker 2: we're crying. Yeah.
• 1:07:42
  Speaker 3: So since you're Gonnet ref you and all the movies,
• 1:07:45
  Speaker 3: well you re review section thirty one.
• 1:07:48
  Speaker 2: Now all the movies. We're doing the Kelvin ones.
• 1:07:55
  Speaker 1: Yeah, we're just doing just Kelvin next next week we're
• 1:07:58
  Speaker 1: gonna do Star Trek, the regrigeration of Khan. That's right.
• 1:08:04
  Speaker 3: So I just thinking, you know, they're old enough to
• 1:08:09
  Speaker 3: do the Wratha con almost right.
• 1:08:13
  Speaker 2: They did it.
• 1:08:14
  Speaker 3: They did yeah, but but they already did it. So
• 1:08:16
  Speaker 3: I was like, you do Ratha khn, but you could
• 1:08:18
  Speaker 3: do it in the Kelvin Tomeline where yeah or check
• 1:08:21
  Speaker 3: Off dies with the ear worm.
• 1:08:24
  Speaker 1: I would like to see a Kelvin say the whales.
• 1:08:29
  Speaker 1: I would like to see a voyage. I think that
• 1:08:32
  Speaker 1: would be hilarious set in twenty twenty five.
• 1:08:36
  Speaker 2: Chris Pinney is hilarious, man, it would be past. Yeah.
• 1:08:42
  Speaker 3: I'm surprised he hasn't been in more movies.
• 1:08:45
  Speaker 2: I mean, okay, if you're going to do the whales,
• 1:08:49
  Speaker 2: you need to do a scene where they can actually
• 1:08:51
  Speaker 2: communicate with the whales, and you get William Shatner to
• 1:08:54
  Speaker 2: voice one of the whales.
• 1:08:58
  Speaker 1: Or Ellen's degenerous. Oh Ellen doing the whale boys?
• 1:09:02
  Speaker 2: Yes, yes, right, and and then and then and then
• 1:09:14
  Speaker 2: Shatner sitting there going why are you talking like a moron?
• 1:09:17
  Speaker 2: Just talk? Why are you doing that? Oh? Grandpa's mad,
• 1:09:23
  Speaker 2: Grandma just anoid?
• 1:09:25
  Speaker 1: Yeah, And I'm George and I will help you with
• 1:09:28
  Speaker 1: your planet.
• 1:09:29
  Speaker 3: Yes, yes, planet.
• 1:09:33
  Speaker 2: So he's not Kirk, he's just one of the whale voices.
• 1:09:35
  Speaker 1: This is one of the whale voices. Yeah so and
• 1:09:42
  Speaker 1: Ellen de Generes as George and Gracie.
• 1:09:46
  Speaker 5: Yes.
• 1:09:46
  Speaker 3: You know what cracks me up is like, what was
• 1:09:48
  Speaker 3: the device that stopped the planet, that killed all the
• 1:09:52
  Speaker 3: power in the planet.
• 1:09:54
  Speaker 1: Oh that was yeah, the probe?
• 1:09:57
  Speaker 3: Yeah, the probe. Yeah, it was like they never found
• 1:10:00
  Speaker 3: out who brought the pope probe. Nope, like nothing, No,
• 1:10:05
  Speaker 3: it's like just fague. It's like there's some alien stops
• 1:10:09
  Speaker 3: the planet, kills all the power, and yeah, everybody's gonna
• 1:10:13
  Speaker 3: die if we don't say the wills.
• 1:10:15
  Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, Grobe was sent by the founders.
• 1:10:18
  Speaker 3: Yes, that'd be cool.
• 1:10:21
  Speaker 1: Yeah, because they don't like going out and exploring themselves.
• 1:10:24
  Speaker 1: They have they kind of have this history of sending
• 1:10:27
  Speaker 1: other their own out or whatever to.
• 1:10:29
  Speaker 3: The Founders have whales swimming.
• 1:10:31
  Speaker 2: In What was the name of those guys from Voyager,
• 1:10:35
  Speaker 2: the the first series of bad guys they meet the Yeah,
• 1:10:42
  Speaker 2: the Kason.
• 1:10:45
  Speaker 3: Stupid.
• 1:10:46
  Speaker 1: Yes, yes, we can't hear the will sounds anymore.
• 1:10:52
  Speaker 3: Let's say the Kason. Well, they dumped the Kason so
• 1:10:56
  Speaker 3: they hated that storyline on Voyage.
• 1:10:59
  Speaker 2: Yeah, those guys came and went real fast.
• 1:11:01
  Speaker 1: Yes, I'm doing The Boys rewatch and I'm like two
• 1:11:05
  Speaker 1: or three episodes into season four. So seven of nine
• 1:11:08
  Speaker 1: just came on Jennifer Lean.
• 1:11:10
  Speaker 3: Just last So that was such a good season.
• 1:11:13
  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I listened to it with my my boys,
• 1:11:16
  Speaker 1: Garrett and Robbie.
• 1:11:18
  Speaker 3: Nice.
• 1:11:21
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you know. Yeah, all right, Well, if I.
• 1:11:24
  Speaker 3: Ever met him in public, would you call him Robbie
• 1:11:26
  Speaker 3: or would you er?
• 1:11:29
  Speaker 1: I just say, what's up Robbie, Robbie?
• 1:11:32
  Speaker 2: Hey, guys, you know.
• 1:11:34
  Speaker 1: What's up our man?
• 1:11:42
  Speaker 2: All right, On that note, we should be wrapping it
• 1:11:44
  Speaker 2: up because that's ridiculous.
• 1:11:51
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• 1:11:53
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