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RHOBH: "Only Spams" · Drama, Darling: A Real Housewives Comedy Podcast

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Drama Darling, Drama Darling, Drama Darling. Hey, everybody, what's up?
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Welcome back to Drama Darling. It's me and me Phillips. Emily Desis
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is joining me from Maryland. I AM's good day to everyone. Good day.
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I don't know what time it is when you're listening to this. I
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know, have a great one, have a great one. And it is
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the holidays. And god, I just opened up a gorgeous gift from well
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we call him my your bish graphic artist over on Patreon. He is a
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darling. He's a friend of mine. He's also an ambassador of the show
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Mike CISERI. He sent me a gift and they are like the bracelets he
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made these, Okay, one for each of uslet they're friendship bracelets. That's
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awesome. This one says drama Darling. I'm wearing it right now. Very
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cool. He made one for Maddie that says hab a dah yes and catching
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one. It is catching on. And he made one for Brett, who
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is a huge Jimmy Buffet fan. And it's called and it says it's five
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o'clock somewhere. I mean, can you even right now? I'm dead like
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I got a little tear in my eye, mic you are so sweet.
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I thank you so much. And also his Housewives tagline is right here in
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my queue, so let's listen to it. My past may have had some
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unexpected twists, but my future is mine to design. That's right, baby.
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Also, Amy Powers special shout out to her. She is a darling,
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also an ambassador of the show over on Patreon, and she sent me
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a huge gift, a huge bottle of wine that says Happy Holidays, darlings,
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and all this cheese, all this cheese like and crackers you would not
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even believe. And so thank you for that amazing, so spoiled, so
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spoiled, and a gorgeous card, a gorgeous Christmas card from her and her
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family. So Amy, you know I love you. Also, Emily.
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Before we get into our Beverly Hills recap today, I just want to make
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an announcement that we are doing several different shows between Christmas and New Year's and
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those are some very special episodes because we're doing a bad Mormon book. Bravo
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book Club review Heather Gay's new book. So Emily and I reread it,
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we listened to it, and we get into it. We're also doing a
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Parison Love season two recap and that has a, as Emily said before,
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a companion piece of the of Paris's memoir because she also read that. So
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we discussed that accidental companion piece because I couldn't stop talking about the book when
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we're recapping the show. Yeah, I mean they're they're connected. And also
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Real Housewives, Ultimate Girls Trip Legacy, as well as a very special episode
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with Emily, myself and Deanna Chang where we are discussing the forty most powerful
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women on reality TV based on varieties article. So tune in over to patreon
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guys, if you do yourself a favor. If you haven't subscribed to the
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into a new year. You're not going to want to miss these. Thank
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you guys. Yes, I have some definite thoughts on that list. Definite
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oh thoughts, oh, major thoughts and uh and we're all going to be
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coming in hot for that, so check us out on that. Also.
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Thank you so much, you guys who've been so loyal listening and subscribing to
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my podcast wherever you listen to podcasts. So thank you for being there for
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me. If you can, please leave a wonderful review if you've got the
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time over the break, people can be real savage. So I need to
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get some good reviews. Oh yeah, I was able to catch one or
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two of those on the old iTunes. Oh god, please don't tell people
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like the show has gone through. You know, it's what we were getting
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there. We're we're getting there, and leave. Leave you know, if
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you don't want to leave a good review, like just give it five or
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Life Life Stores, this American Life or something. They can handle it.
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They they've got a million great reviews. I love that show, but don't
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pop up, don't pop on and be like I can't believe you said this
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on this one episode, you know. I mean that's rough because it's just
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one episode. It's one thought and then it really brings things down. So
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look, and you know everyone's mother says it. If you don't have anything
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nice to say, don't say it at all, that's right. Just leaves.
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Here's the thing too, I actually and the people who message me and
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give me constructive criticism coming from a place of love that I I'm here for
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and that I love like because everybody knows. And even when I was on
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Serious Look I got I got plenty of that on Serious as well. Trust
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me, it's not just this podcast. But I'm always open to hearing people,
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you know, chime in and give me their their two cents because you
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know, it takes a village. And I also really love building a show
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that works for us all. Obviously it's gonna the buck will stop at what
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makes me happy and what entertains me. But at the end of the day,
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you guys are what makes this work. So I want to be able
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to deliver a product that entertains you. And so if something is really bothering
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you speak up. Also, if you leave it in the review, I
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know, I don't really check those off. I'm not gonna be for other
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people. It's for other people. Well, I'm saying if there's a note
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that they were like, oh, Amy, I wish this message because yeah,
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message, because because it's just too much it yeah. Oh all right,
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Well and that being said. The Darling Drama The Drama Darling Hotline has
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been open to people leaving their wishes their housewives wishes. So we have a
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ton of those to listen to, but I'm just gonna give you a few
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right now, Emily, let's take a listen. Hello, this is Alex
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from Oh My God, Baby Gorgeous. Stop Stop it's okay. Hey,
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Hey, hey, hey, hey, it's okay, okay, let me
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continue. Sorry about that, my house what you guys, my housewives wish
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with the let's stop trying to make the New New York cast happen. It's
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not going to happen. And anyone who says that they love it, they're
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lying to themselves and to all of us. So that is my wish.
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Maybe let's keep Jessel Drid that's about it. Hey, thank you, buye
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Hey Darling, this is Andrea A. Mahoney from Saint Louis. Listen.
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I don't know if it's ever got any airtime from you, but I feel
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like it got lost in the fog of war. But it's one of the
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best Housewives a Mixed metaphors ever, And it was last year Kathy Hilton in
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a confessional when she said that was the straw that broke the camel's toe.
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So my Christmas wish is that that. Somehow she used to Light to Day
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again because it's so good and I think there was a lot of drama right
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after that, and it kind of got lost in the drama and the fog
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of war at the time. So anyway, that's my Christmas wish. Happy
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Holidays. This right. You want to know what I want for Christmas,
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so I'm gonna name them. I want the new esophagus for Denise to come
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back permanently. Hi Annie, this is romonic, Okay. You know what
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I want for two my sixty closest friends to have a season two of Crappy
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Laces. Okay, Hi Amy, this is mayretis besides the feather blazer in
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the new bathtub. I want my good friend Mary and Consby to be a
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regular and be invited to all events. How do you sneel? This is
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Marisolo. I want to be a housewif again and I don't know so much.
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Oh in a copy? Hi Ami is Alison in Chicago. I have
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a controversial one that is going to get me torn to shrubs, but I
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think it would be best for everyone. My holiday wish is for Teresa and
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her children and that man she married to get their own spin off show and
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get off of the Real Housewives of New Jersey. That will make her fans
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happy, and that will make the rest of us who cannot watch another season
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of the nonsense happy. I have already deleted my recording for the upcoming season.
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I have already muted everything on Twitter. I cannot take another season of
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her not taking accountability and the back and forth, and it's not going to
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be fun to watch when groups of people on the same cast are not speaking
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to each other. So let's please give her a spinoff so her fans can
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watch her there. Okay, love you bye. I gotta say I love
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I love this hotline, and I love all the takes love I love the
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Sutton calling in so funny. Okay, so listen, we we've got a
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little bit of serving dish to do today. Serving dish. First of all,
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as we know Jack, Jack, Lisa Barlow's son, did go to
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his do his mission, and he's in the hospital right now. He's been
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in the hospital for three days, and so this is like killing Lisa.
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She posted She's like, I miss Jack every day. He's been in the
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hospital for three days and it's killing me. Not to make light of that.
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But I hope he's Okay, we are sending him good healthy wishes.
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I don't know what's wrong, but this is the problem with like having your
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kids overseas and you know you can't be there with them if they're in the
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hospital. And I hope that he's okay. Yeah, might be too in
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times, okay. Also speaking of people being sick, Luanne Dala Septs the
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Countess, she has the flu. Darling, she's Lou has the flu.
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And she took to Instagram. She took her socials and said, drawlings,
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I can't do my show at fifty four below. I'm so angry, I'm
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upset. The flu is the bitch and drawlings. I'm just using this time
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to write new material and write stuff and gosh darn it, if the flu
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isn't just a son of a bitch. Uh And and she is livid.
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She is. She's like Vicky. She wants to work, she wants to
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work, and she's sick, but she's still working. She's still working,
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So I got to hand it to her. But you, guys, I'm
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so sorry that you're gonna miss your holiday show with Lou. What a bummer.
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But yeah, the flu is going around. It always is uh,
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one of the biggest. Here's the thing. I don't even like reporting this,
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but whatever, here we go. Us US is reporting that Mauricio and
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Kyle are enjoying separate, you know, holiday vacations right now as we've garnered
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from social Yeah, and Mauricio is now on the slopes with ley Ley Ponds
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and Anita. Anita, I don't know who these people are. Their social
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media people. They're skiing in towels with Champagne Mauricio. He's on Instagram.
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Basically, these are youtubersh And he's saying that. Yeah, he's saying that
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he's Anita's referring to Mariso is the best video maker when she shared an Instagram
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video of her and Ponds changing out of their towels in the snow, and
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he, oh god, this is just hard to hard to report. This
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is him like having fun and saying like, uh, the agency. No,
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I'm kidding, I'm kidding. He does say anthing about the agency,
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but he's just like, you gotta see. If you want to see what
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they're doing, you gotta go watch their YouTube. This is very much like
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PR stunts to me. He's now out with all of these quote unquote influencers.
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How convenient. I it bothers me, like he's getting used. I
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think he's getting used by by their PR people for his platform. They're using
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each other and I don't believe in each other. Yeah. Yeah, So
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I mean it's still like no because I think like it bothers me because I'm
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like, buddy, like this is not the look, Like this is not
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I know what you're doing, but this is not. Your audience does not
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appreciate this. But you know what, I don't know who his audience is
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now, because like it's definitely not going to be a housewives audience. But
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that's what I'm saying. It's us, right, it's us, And now
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we're going to turn on him and what he's I guess he's looking for a
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whole new audience. Look, I think that as a nation, we aren't
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quite sure what happened with him and Kyle, and I'm kind of thinking,
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at the end of the day, he did her pretty dirty. This is
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going to be a bad look once and if and once if there is that
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in some scandalous tale, if that once that hits us, and then we're
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just like he's out on the slopes with girls and towels. It's that's gonna
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be a hard thing for you and the agency to dig out of. Like
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once we have that information, with this news story, with him showing his
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ass all over, we're gonna have a hard time. Even though initially I
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was on board, Now I'm starting to be like, quit showing your ass,
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Quit your ass. His post says some fun shenanigans about to occur.
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You'll have to go to their gram to see what they're they are up to.
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Nadad, take it down, take it down, take your Graham down.
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After that atrocity, Instagram needs to to what do they do? Shut
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people down? Shadow ban him? I don't know whatever. He needs to
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be like scolded, yeah, but you can't put that up there. It's
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also him like using like we know, Mauricio, like let's not go let's
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like, let's not start talking like that. Let's not start saying things in
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abbreviations when we're not doing that. We're not doing that, Mauricio. What
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we're not going to do. What we're not gonna do is what you just
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did, and that is referring to Instagram as the ground. That's what we're
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not word and then shuttling people over to some YouTuber's YouTube and Instagram social media
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pages. We're not going to do that. Meanwhile, Kyle did take to
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her page saying something like, I've never had so much support in my life.
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I just want to thank everybody. I want to thank Babby and Storm
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and we're all me out and get down from there. And basically it's like
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you know, and she posted this unbelievable like a couple of shots of her
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in Punta Mita, Mexico. Oh yeah, right, did you see that
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bikini shot? Oh I didn't see that. I just saw the white dress.
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The white dress in front of the tree. Yeah, there's a couple.
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So any who, that's where we are with that, and we will
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move on from there. We have Beverly Hills to discuss. Yes, well,
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no, is that on the gram where Kyle posted on the Gram?
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Yeah, it is on the ground. Okay, see we'll be able to
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say it. But Mariicio, don't do that, don't. I'm offended.
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I'm quite frankly offended. You know that he had someone do that for him
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also, and he was like, say the gram, No, say the
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gram. Yes, that's what the kids call it. Yeah, Porscha said
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that the other day, so say that, Oh my gosh, Oh my
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gosh, you're really going to take your tails off. Towels, towel,
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Oh my god. If he called them love bean, oh love beans,
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it would be over. Oh my god. I didn't appreciate it. It's
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Kyle's name, and you don't call other people that dirty. Don't do that.
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Okay, all right, well let's get into the episode. We've got
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a lot to discuss on Beverly Hill. Duh, thank you baby doorter woo.
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Wow. All right, well boy, this is a Sutton era,
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isn't it. I would say Derete's kind of going from, Oh, Darita
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is having a rough season. It's Sutton's era, but it is Darite is
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really not having a good time. It's her. It's her snare. She's
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getting caught up in a snare. You know, you know, no one
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knows. Emily, thank you, you're welcome, thank you, thank you,
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you are welcome. What it was something that Sutton? You know,
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Sutton is repeating things like that's her thing. Now. I guess I guess
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she's just like, it's not bad, No, it's hilarious. Do you
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think that it's because a producer said, wow, that name of thing was
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amazing. So then the next week she was like, why did you bring
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it up? Why did you bring it up? Why did you? Why
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did you? Why did you? I mean, this is wild. I
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don't think that the producers coached her could be wrong. I think she thinks
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that she's landed on something. Yeah, and she's right, okay, yeah,
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yeah, and she is, we're gonna get mugs. We're gonna get
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Yeah, we're gonna Why did you the repeating annoying thing? It's gonna it
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drives everybody crazy. I mean, well, it's it is a horrible way
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to be in an argument. And for me, I'm like, okay,
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this is what you do when you know you're wrong and you're cornered. So
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as the audience, I don't know if it's effective in her getting her point
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across, but it's very entertaining when you're not on the other side of it.
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But yeah, you have to make you go great. No, it's
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entertaining to observe it at a distance months in the future from when it happened.
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But to be in that room, oh my god, I would have
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come on glued and there was an audience over I mean, Crystal had her
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big moment at least her house was here's the thing, it's at Crystal's house,
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but she's nowhere to be fucking found. I realized that she and Denise
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are gone. They have this couchful of extras. Yeah, except for Mia,
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who is Bill Burr's wife, who has had more compelling scenes than Crystal
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has since this season has started. I know. And thank you. That's
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the thing that we can say. Thank you, you're welcome to Crystal.
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Thank you for bringing Mia on the scene, bill Burr's wife. Thank you
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for that. She's great. Just's keep her in the mix. I would
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really like her to be in the mix. I was like, whoa Bilburr's
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Why? I was like, I had no idea that was going to happen
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and no, And I got the feeling that Dared had no idea who she
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was. Do you think that Dared has any idea who Bi? No?
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Absolutely no. Yeah, and she doesn't she doesn't know what comedy is.
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Yeah, I mean yeah, right right, I mean he's I don't think
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that Mia will be on the show permanently. I'd be really surprised, but
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who knows. Maybe, I don't know. She seemed like she was game
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for it, although that the peanut gallery of the ladies that were just laughing
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at everything going on as fans of the show was quite funny. Yes,
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yeah, and it was funny to me. I don't think. I don't
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think that. I mean, I don't know them or anything. I just
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don't get the idea that Bill Burr would want to have be connected to the
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show in that way. That would be my thought, unless he's trying to
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frasier her like like a Camille. It was funny. She was like,
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yeah, my husband was doing you know there, did you see Magic Mike?
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And she was like, oh yeah twice and she's like, my husband
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was doing a show with the Cosmopolitan And Kyle's like, oh, y'are on
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like so quickly. So I'm thinking she must have known that who she was
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in order to set her up like that. You know, do you think
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or do you think Kyle genuinely did not know who her husband was. I
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think no one genuinely knew. I think like you and I and probably some
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of our listeners here would know Bilberg. He's like a household name in a
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lot of places. And I remember saying I remember seeing her like on red
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Carpets I remember knowing who she was. I just didn't put it. I
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wouldn't have put it together. I wouldn't have recognized her in that right.
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But when she said I think that that Kyle in jury just didn't know.
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Yeah, but Kyle did seem like she knew and she was impressed. But
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Durate's like, oh great, anyway, this fool left Magic Mike and she
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just boy, she has it out for Sutton, and then she has the
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nerve to be like, I feel like Crystal is trying to stare the pot
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with me and Sutton. I'm like, babe, you're doing a fine job
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by yourself. Crystal's nowhere to be found. You're doing this all on your
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own. I think Jerry's getting nervous. I think her, yeah, mate,
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what is what is going on? Break it down because something's happening here.
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Yeah. I think her calling card on the show was always scenes with
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Kyle, and she has told us many times that she's not getting scenes with
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Kyle. And she's already kind of riffed with Sutton HM in terms of being
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someone that can have shoot fun scenes together. So I think she's going the
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opposite way. Yes, just picking fights. I think you are one hundred
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percent right. It didn't dawn on me until the end when Dury was like,
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I'm being replaced by Morgan that I realized, oh right, You're like,
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Kyle is the kingpin, a queen pin, if you will, of
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this entire show. And you were besties with her. We've all known you
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and Pique and Mauricio, you all used to travel together. You were locked
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and loaded, and now that is all gone. So what is your place?
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There's nothing else going on. You and pk are in a tough position.
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You know, the honeymoon phase is over, and so yes, you're
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left with having to scramble for being a part of the show. And so
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you're being messy with Kyle in the sense that you're calling her out in the
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car by being like, oh, I guess I have to have a tattoo
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of k on my body for you to pay attention to me, you know,
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just kind of low blows like that. But it became very clear that
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Kyle is really holding something against her, which was the reunion last year when
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she didn't have her back with Kathy Hilton, and I thought, wow,
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that's what it is. Kyle. I thought, holy shit, Okay,
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I get it. Though with that, because again we're not that far out
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of the reunion when they're filming. This is somebody that is Kyle. Duritch
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should have Kyle's back no matter what in that sitution, in that situation and
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in the at the reunion, she kind of gave it a false equivalency and
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she neutralized Kyle's feelings by equating it to basically being like, well, everyone's
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at fault here, Kyle. And it's like, if that was my best
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friend and we were in that situation, or my closest friend of the cast,
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I would be like, that would have cut so deep, and it
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sure did. And I think you're right. I just thought that she cleaned
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up that mess when they went to the dressing rooms at the reunion, because
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when they were in the dressing room after that, Dree seemed to say everything
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right. She was comforting Kyle, she was talking her down, she was
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talking about her friendship with her and that she wouldn't ever go against her and
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she was just trying to make it right with Kathy and she doesn't want to
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see them hurt anym were So I felt like, still neutralizing what Kyle.
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I know that moment, Yeah, I agree, I just felt like I
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wish they could have it seems like they could have bounced back from that based
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on Deret's empathy in the dressing room after is all I'm saying, and and
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and apparently know and what you're saying is you really you're co signing for Kyle,
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which is that it really you just can't come back from that. And
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I suppose it did shock me because it wasn't really it was discussed and Kyle
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did keep alluding to how certain people weren't there for her at the reunion,
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But like the fact that they were able to like coexist. The fact that
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Kyle can coexist with Deurite and pull back from their relationship after being so close
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is kind of wild to me that they can do that on a show and
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like that it wouldn't be so incredibly weird, but it is. Well,
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there's also like Kyle's not drinking anymore, the husband's that afore sum kind of
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having a change. You know, she's going through like a horribly difficult grief
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situation and she's not allowing DA to be there for her at all. So
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it's really weird because what is for you, I know, like like what
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is that when Kyle needed to read to be there for her. She wasn't
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there for her. She needed to read to be there on that couch that
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in that moment. Yeah, yeah, so I can see Kyle's just like
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blowing it all up and walking away. She sticks and seeing what sticks,
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and it's Morgan's tattoo, and that's what's stuck. It is wild to watch,
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though, like, because they really did have such a thing going with
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the whole couples traveling twice twice a year, if not more. That's a
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lot, that's a lot of bonding, that's you know. So, but
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Durita is spiraling and she is just for anything. Oh my gosh, her
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head was spiraling in that room, in that Crystal's living room. I mean
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she was just like it was like the Exorcist just taking out whoever, like
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then like setting people up with their own feuds. I was just like,
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what is Deriy, what are you doing? Oh my god? Well,
27:19
because let's just will continue to land there. But like, first of all,
27:25
can we just say it was freezing outside, Let's let's make a choice
27:30
to not even bother going out there. But it was funny that they were
27:34
all complaining about it and then Sutton shows up in a sun dress and they're
27:41
like, Sutton loves the sun dress. Well in fairness, the sudden it
27:47
gets hot in those rooms, I bet. And so if you're like when
27:52
like when we were at Kyle's dinner that night, it was so cramped when
27:55
we the audience when we were watching it, I was like, I bet
27:59
that room that is really warm. Yes, because you're also dealing with lighting.
28:04
I just so I kind of get why she would always wear sun dresses.
28:08
But you know who got it right, Kim in that scarf, the
28:15
tissue, that fucking scar When she walked up and we saw a shot of
28:21
this lady from behind on the steps with the long hair, I was like,
28:26
who the hell is this lady? And I was like is this I
28:30
just could I was like, is that Fay? Is this? No?
28:33
She would never show up for herself, like did you? And then I'm
28:34
like, no, Fay does not walk like that, you know, and
28:37
she's like bobbing, weaving, and it's like then it's like she is just
28:42
so funny to watch. She's just so cute. You just want to I
28:48
don't just want to have a doll of Kim and just play with her.
28:51
But that was the second time I thought Fay was showing up. You thought
28:53
it was Faye also, yeah, because also I thought that was face showing
28:57
up at Garcel and Eric is drinking me too, because Sutton's hair was so
29:03
different, and I was like, what I thought I would. I was
29:07
thinking, yeah, why wouldn't surprise. So yeah, So Kim pops in
29:14
and she's got this scarf, but like, god, lover, I mean,
29:17
she's gonna wear that scarf hot or cold. So she was fine.
29:19
She's like, I don't know you guys, but I'm fine. And then
29:23
to find this, Kyle's like, what's the one is in your scarf?
29:26
What do we have here? And she's finding little treasures of Kleenex, and
29:30
I'm like, you know what, when you get older, you're like,
29:33
fuck it, I'm putting Kleenex in here because my nose is gonna run and
29:36
I don't care what anybody thinks, and I'm fine with that. It's kind
29:37
of like people put Kleenex in their bra why not put it in your scarf?
29:41
Well, I think it's gonna fall out a little faster and it's up
29:45
by your face. That might be. That's just one thought I had Oh,
29:48
it's fine. Best case scenario, people are gonna be like, she
29:52
has a corsage on her scarf, big, like a look at that blossom.
29:59
Well, Kim shows up, and then we get Denise showing up.
30:02
She's like, what the fever? When I got home? So she says
30:07
she has a fever one hundred and two degree fever. When she left that
30:11
party, she should have been calling people and warning them like I was very
30:15
sick, just so you know, well, I mean at this point,
30:21
at this point, if it's COVID, you call people, I'd say,
30:25
I would say, there's pretty much an agreement across I would say the United
30:30
States that people don't call like I have a flu. Okay, let me
30:36
just put this caveat if I was acting crazy like yeah, like she had
30:40
cats scratch fever's what she has. If I'm walking around in my clothes up
30:45
side down and starting ten year old fights with people, my face is going
30:51
east to west at any given time, not get a phone call. Okay.
30:55
If there's a matching heat index in my body matched my elevated in lack
31:03
of impulse control, I maybe like, hey, I have this thing.
31:08
It would also help to clear the air a little bit, and I maybe
31:11
asked my doctor to make those calls. All right, well, or I
31:21
was just gonna say maybe Henri could do that. And she's like, there's
31:23
nothing wrong with you. This isn't a medical problem diagnosis. This is just
31:30
an uh, it's just a symptom of COVID. Okay. So yeah,
31:37
so she's like, I had a fever when I got home. Okay,
31:40
sure whatever. Uh. Now we get to the point where Yeah Sudden was
31:49
saying talking about how she didn't like magic Mike, She's like, some people
31:53
don't like mustard, but basically I ruined the whole night. Thank you for
31:59
bringing that up to Mia Billburr's wife. And then durit'said, but you mean
32:05
you had dollar bills with you. I mean you say you don't want to
32:07
be there, but you had dollar bills. And by the way, you
32:09
made out with your driver in front of everybody, And that was tacky as
32:15
hell. And I love the fact that Garcel swooped in. It was like,
32:19
come on, like that was an inside thing, even though we all
32:23
know you. Now here's the hypocrisy, even though we all know that you
32:28
said it and the world is going to see it. The world is going
32:30
to see it because Garcel said it, yeah on TV. She said it
32:35
on TV. Yeah, so the world is going to see it. So
32:37
when she says that was between you, me and Erica at the end of
32:43
the day, it really isn't because we're going to see it. However,
32:46
in that moment, I didn't like the way that dere was I hate to
32:52
use this word because it's so triny, but like weaponizing it or using it
32:57
as an attack to make fun of Sutton and to make a like humiliate her
33:01
in front of everybody at that party. So I do usually I would like
33:07
take a housewife to task by saying like, well, she didn't do anything
33:10
that different than you did, because you're the one who brought it up on
33:13
camera. But it's the way that they brought it up and the way that
33:15
Durit brought it up was wrong. And I agree with Garcel that I did
33:21
not like the way that she was trying to embarrass dedreite I'm sorry Sutton in
33:23
front of everybody. Would you agree with that? Yeah? Also, I
33:28
would argue that that driver line was a throwaway line that probably wouldn't have been
33:32
in if Deit didn't bring it up. Later, like maybe they would have
33:37
included it, but because it became relevant, I think then now they're like,
33:42
oh, well now this is definitely going to be in the show.
33:45
Yes, yeah, because there's a lot that they cut out from that night
33:47
of drinks and that bar looked so great. I want to go to that
33:51
bar, yes, yeah, and get Leechy Martiniz all night long. Yes,
33:55
they they have a lot of drinks. They really did, and they
33:59
had so much fun. There was a moment when Erica did something funny.
34:01
I was like, oh my god, you seem like you're so fun for
34:05
a second. I was like, you're like a real person for a second.
34:07
You know. It was nice to see them in that Erica. I
34:13
do think that Erica, Yes she she's getting back to herself, but there
34:17
I mean, I always think that Erica could throw down and be a fun
34:22
person to hang. Yeah, we just haven't seen it in so long that
34:24
it was refreshing to see. Yeah, Like Dery, I don't know if
34:29
that character ever fully breaks, and I would always be like I would be.
34:34
I couldn't like let my guard down with Erica. I don't know if
34:36
I could do that with Derey agree yeah, or I don't know if she
34:39
would follow suit, so you'd be just kind of throwing pearls to swine if
34:44
you will. So Sutton is basically saying like you're, well, okay,
34:52
you're trying. Garcel says you're trying to embarrass her, and then Dorry it's
34:57
kind of like, no, I'm just like we're having fun and and and
35:01
I'm also mentioning the whole thing about Vegas, and Sutton's point being like the
35:06
two are not the same, like me leaving Magic Mike and me making out
35:10
with my driver are not like you can't equate them. So it really was
35:15
like Durrett's reaching, she's doing everything she can. And and then of course
35:20
we get the whole why did you bring it up? Why did you bring
35:22
it up? Why did you bring it up? Answer my question? And
35:27
then why did you bring it up? Why did you bring it up?
35:30
Oh my god, I'm sure I have some music. Oh I got some
35:34
I got a drum line? Why did you bring it up? Why did
35:37
you bring it up? Waw waw waw why did you bring it up?
35:49
I answered my question, and Durre it's like, stop asking a question and
35:52
not waiting for an answer, and I'm like, oh, yes, that's
35:54
exactly what's happening. So that felt good too, to like tell Sutton to
35:59
shut up up. Yes, but Kyle tried to shut her up too.
36:06
It's not Yeah, the whole thing, deurit's super desperate, and I think
36:15
she was, like, I think she hit a wall with Sutton in that.
36:19
I think she thought that was going to be a bigger thing in sudden
36:22
she wasn't ready for that form of attack from Sutton. Yeah, you know,
36:28
Sutton's like knee jerk reaction to get someone back is to just provoke them
36:32
to the point of losing their shit. Stop using me. And you know
36:37
what I got to say, I when d kept saying you're attacking me to
36:43
Garcel and not getting it and not understanding and having a total lack of awareness
36:52
everything. Yeah, of the microaggression, And that is exactly what it was.
36:55
It was a microaggression the dere is not aware of. And that scene
37:01
made my heart sink and I just felt like, here we are going from
37:06
just petty stuff, caddy stuff and doing our housewives thing and then we enter
37:10
into this world of ignorance and it just it lives. You know, I
37:16
will say I think dereat you know, she did after she did that microaggression
37:24
and not realizing it, trying to at that point realize, Okay, I
37:29
must have done something. She's trying to catch on, she's trying to figure
37:32
it out, and then she quickly says, like I am. She quickly
37:37
apologizes. She quickly says, I've offended you, I've upset you. I
37:42
would love to talk about this more. I think was the right thing to
37:45
do in that at that point, because there was nothing else left for her
37:49
to do. The damage was done. She can't there's nothing she can do
37:52
about it. So the only thing she can do is just apologize. And
37:55
I think that was the best thing she could have done at that point.
38:00
The damage was done. And Garcel, Yeah, but what I read from
38:05
her too was like like exactly what Garcel said, I don't want to educate
38:10
you, Like it's not you know what I mean, Like thank god Erica
38:14
was there to kind of be like dirt Yeah no, and yeah, you
38:20
know what I mean. Like I just I don't know how dread is so
38:24
in pop culture and aware of the world in some ways and so out of
38:30
it. But I don't think that she is all I don't think that she
38:32
is aware of pop culture. And I don't think that she is aware of
38:36
the world, you know, I mean, I really don't. I don't
38:38
think that she ever has been. That's just that to me, that's just
38:43
facts. I mean, you're talking about somebody who's from Connecticut who has an
38:45
accent like this, this is that that's the headline, you know. I
38:51
mean, I'm sorry, but the cover of the book actually matches what's inside
38:55
of the book. And I'm not saying that that's across the board for her
39:00
every single side of her personality, but that's a big broad stroke there,
39:06
and that being is like she's in pop culture. Like I don't understand how
39:13
you aren't aware when you are on a reality TV show. I just don't
39:19
understand how you're not kind of aware of And I will also say on that
39:27
to that point that there's been a movement, you know, a huge movement
39:30
happened and it's called Black Lives Matter, and and so it's on you know,
39:37
people who are not of color to take things away from this movement to
39:43
understand that we're in a different place. And so now it's exhausting. When
39:47
so when Garcela says I'm good, like I don't want to have that conversation
39:52
like I, I'm not here to educate you. I hear exhaustion. I
39:58
hear Garcel, We're tired. Yeah, we're tired of having to explain this
40:01
over and over again. Educate. It's on you at this point, Like
40:06
you know, she had that conversation with Kyle about you. Remember when it
40:10
was the fundraiser and Garcels there was an administrative error where Garcel's donation wasn't made
40:19
and so that that came down to, you know, all kinds of things
40:23
that are that that that Garcel had to explain to Kyle that Kyle didn't understand,
40:29
and quite frankly, I wouldn't have understood either. You know, I
40:31
have taken away You know, I can only speak for my own self,
40:35
and that is I've taken away a lot from the Black Lives Matter movement.
40:38
I've taken away a tremendous amount, and I still feel like I continue to
40:43
learn. I am ignorant in so many ways, but I I try to
40:46
do my best at understanding these things. And when it comes down to that's
40:52
why when it comes down to Durte saying she's sorry, I feel like it's
40:55
a lot of people, it's a lot of people in her shoes and people
41:00
who are watching that that would have said like, I don't know what happened,
41:02
like Durit did. And so in many ways, you know, this
41:07
is a teachable moment and I'm sorry that we're still here as a society,
41:09
but you know, we have some people that are in the slow lane or
41:15
are just not as educated and just aren't there yet. And that's it's not
41:17
that it's okay, it's just the reality. And like so for Durit to
41:22
immediately say I'm sorry and like like what, you know what, I know,
41:24
I triggered you. I'm so sorry. What's a better word? And
41:28
to want to do better, I think is the important takeaway from this.
41:30
And so I will give that to Durit and I give it to Erica to
41:35
have shown up there and to have you know, filled in the blanks where
41:38
Garcel was not going to do that. And I don't blame her in any
41:42
way. So and for us as viewers to take away from this, like,
41:45
look, we are going to make mistakes. You know, mistakes happen,
41:52
Ignorance happens, and that's the reality. And Unfortunately, it's a sad
41:55
reality. And and I'm no better than any person, and I'm not infallible,
42:00
and so I'm not going to get on my woke high horse and say
42:04
that couldn't be me, because it could be me tomorrow. Or I'll say
42:07
something so fucking stupid and i won't realize it and I'll be like, oh
42:09
my god, I'm sorry, you know. I mean, I remember,
42:13
like God, it was like and this has to do with like LGBTQ,
42:16
but oh God, probably like I want to say, I was in Chicago,
42:22
it was like two thousand and seven, two thousand, Yeah, I
42:25
had to have in two thousand and seven, and I remember saying something that
42:30
like, you use the term gay. Okay, we know what gay is,
42:36
but back in the eighties we were using that as like your stupid.
42:40
You know, that word came across as like that is so stupid gay,
42:45
as you're so stupid, not what gay is, so you're using that word
42:51
in a different context. And growing up, I did not know what that
42:54
meant. And I remember in two thousand and seven that out of my mouth
43:00
in the same way I would have referenced it if I was like thirty twelve
43:05
years old and being like, holy shit, I can't believe that just came
43:07
out of my mouth, Like that's not right, but that happened. That
43:12
totally happened, and I knew better, and yet like that's it. That
43:16
shit happens, and we put our feet in our mouths like we're just not
43:22
perfect people. So again, this is a scene that I think is again
43:28
a teachable moment for society. I hate that it has to be, but
43:31
it is. And that's just the takeaway. And oh, I don't think
43:36
rock on Garcel to do the teaching. No, No, I completely exhausted.
43:42
I know. It's not you exhausted. It's no, are Garcells exhausted?
43:45
That's yet if I didn't make that clear, That's what I mean is
43:49
that and she should be, you know, as a culture, people of
43:55
color should be exhausted at this point that we're not getting it and that what
44:00
is disappointing. And I understand that. So and and maybe Garcel later on
44:05
in another scene will be able to like entertain Dury's apology and accept it again
44:12
yeah again, you know so yeah, but what a what a wild scene?
44:17
You know, what a wild? What a wild? Again? Again,
44:22
I think Dery was so manically trying to get into it with somebody,
44:28
and and I mean she was just not even picking up signals like nope.
44:31
And then her exit was crazy. Her exit was so wild. It was
44:36
just like, well, pks home, I haven't seen him in a while.
44:38
Bye, and yeah a sadness. I thought for sure it would be
44:42
like her collecting her thoughts in the car or something. It was like bye
44:45
everybody. I thought for sure if she was going to leave. I thought
44:50
she was going to leave right after that Garcel thing with her head held no
44:53
and humiliated, like being like oh my god, I can't believe what I
44:57
did, or like I really screwed up. I need to, you know.
45:00
Instead, she tried to stir up with Denise. Yeah, hey,
45:05
er, can you don't don't you guys have something? Pulls the pin out
45:07
of the hand grenade and walks out. Yeah that was boy, oh boy.
45:10
What a zig and a zag? What a zig and what a zag?
45:16
I mean? So yeah, So that's after after that scene with Garcel
45:23
and Durte. I think they do a shift of seating or the camera does
45:28
a shift, because then like the friends of Crystal, like Denise and Crystal
45:35
come in I'm like, what were you guys doing? Dishes, like really
45:37
like, what were you guys doing? And they're like, can you download
45:40
us on what happened? And and Dury It's like, well, you know,
45:45
I tried to make a joke about like Sutton and it didn't land and
45:49
all that stuff. So then then Crystal, Crystal doesn't want to get it
45:55
wrong what Durite said, Oh yeah, And I'm like, just get it
46:00
wrong, Crystal, like anything, like say something, and then we cut
46:02
away from her and then we never come back to her. So I'm like,
46:05
okay, well there's that. And then we have Suddon making a speech
46:10
and doing a monologue which was that do you remember that? My friends?
46:15
If you are going to say that, I get it made no sens.
46:21
I know what my life has accomplished and what I'm going to accomplish. I'm
46:25
like, are you running for governor? Are you? What is half speech?
46:31
I don't know that speech. I feel like it needs to be used
46:35
as an audition piece. But Kyle was laughing, and then then she continues,
46:43
I was like, continue your little chatter. Well I take off and
46:46
y'all are way back here. That's what's gonna happen because I'm moving forward at
46:53
a very rapid speed, dramatic pause, that's what what's happening? What happened?
47:05
I don't know what happened. I don't know. And then Drut's like
47:08
I apologize. She's like, that's your apology, and then Denise was like,
47:13
well in my office, Jodge made and then Doriet it's like, all
47:16
right, would you like to clear things up with Erka? Have you had
47:21
a chat with Eka? Oh? You haven't, don't you think you should?
47:24
And I'm like this is just getting fucking bonkers. So then she leaves
47:30
as we talked about, and then Erica Erka says like uh calls Deita pot
47:37
stir and then oh yeah. Denise gets so mad at Durit for trying to
47:44
like bring it up when I'm like, also also, Denise, like slow
47:49
your role. You do have something to say. We know you're poised to
47:52
do this scene with Erka, so why don't you just do it instead?
47:57
You're like, what's going on? Jesus brand Jonah not just drinking that hot,
48:05
steaming muled cider. I mean, I've never seen steam on a drink
48:10
in my life on shows? Have you yet? No? No, No,
48:15
that's a great point. That is a great point with steaming. I
48:20
know that I have not even thought of that, but yeah I haven't,
48:24
not even when they're an aspen. No, I mean that must have been
48:28
what Chrystal was doing in there. It's gotta be hot, it's gotta be
48:30
hotter hot, turn it up hot. I don't know what she was doing
48:35
in there except for steaming those drinks. I mean, was that dry ice?
48:42
Curses? I get the dry ice. What's her husband's name again,
48:46
Rob Rob? Yes? Rob Rob's like, we got to make this look
48:51
more realistic. I'm in the film business, Okay, we need dry ice.
48:54
Personal, we need dry ice. Yeah, I don't know. I
49:00
think with Denise too, it's like I can't get a read on what she
49:06
because I gotta do this Bethany well, the Bethany podcast that she does.
49:09
She's saying that she wasn't. I have to listen to the whole thing.
49:13
I just started it. But oh she was Bethany's podcast. Yeah, she
49:17
wasn't paid to be at Kyle's that night or like she's just a friend of
49:22
But I'm like, surely she's been paid. I got to listen to it.
49:28
But like, I don't know how much she was paid to be on
49:30
any of this stuff, as if she's not a friend of or she is.
49:35
And I'm like, you are working too hard. What'd she say?
49:39
She doesn't know? I mean, I'm sure she was told. I'm sure
49:43
it's in writing, but she still doesn't know. Okay, okay, I
49:46
think that the check is coming. I think the check probably arrived, and
49:52
it's all mixed in with her OnlyFans money and she can't tell it, tell
49:55
one from the other. It's sitting on Kyle's counter with all Kyle's mail yet.
50:01
Yeah, okay, fair uh, fair enough, you'll accept that?
50:07
All right? Well, Denise and Erica go at it. And Erica is
50:13
like, len Elena, am this commsasion? You had your chance at Kyle's
50:16
buddy, you came in with an agenda. You call me a bitch.
50:20
I apologize to you. Sin Celia. I was stoned as hell and you
50:23
called me. Oh, she called her a dumb bot fuck that's what she
50:28
thinks she called her. And the fact that this telephone game and we have
50:30
the footage that she really did just call her an acceptable horrible name, which
50:36
is a dick, fucking asshole. Yeah, not a dumb bot fuck.
50:39
So Kyle was dead wrong. I like, where did that even come from?
50:45
Kyle, Like, I don't know, and for her to spread bat
50:50
and they're like, She's like, what is a dumb batfuck? That was
50:57
so funny. I don't know, I don't know. It's what she said.
51:01
I don't know, a dumb mood fog, I don't know. Yeah.
51:07
Well, in fairness, they were all even Kyle, pretty high,
51:12
although Denise still says she just had one drink before she got there. Oh
51:19
sure, and she had a fever, right, right, of course,
51:24
Denise, Okay, I have a lot to say about the scene, but
51:28
I just want to go through the bullet points about what happened. So Denise
51:32
talks about why she's mad at Erica still, and that's because she insinuated that
51:37
her daughter at fourteen years old, would have had a threesome, and she
51:39
said that's beyond inappropriate. Agree. I mean, I do think, like
51:44
I think that Erica was very weird about that back then, and I think
51:46
it should have been off limits in terms of what she said. She should
51:49
have apologized. I don't even remember if she did, but my takeaway was
51:53
Erica was talking generally about that about kids, right, But she did say
52:00
no, she did say like she probably knows what a threesome is if she
52:04
hasn't already had one. I'm pretty sure she said it. Yeah, she
52:07
did say that. Yeah, so that is seems it does seem inappropriate to
52:10
me to say that on camera about someone else's child. I think that's gross.
52:14
Okay, I do think that's gross. And she's fourteen years old.
52:16
Totally unacceptable. She deserved to give Denise an apology for that. Ricca keeps
52:23
fucking with people's kids in the worst way. Wait, who else is kids?
52:28
Did she garcels? Oh right, Oh my god, like Erica,
52:35
she doesn't have a boundary really stepping in it. Well, no, she
52:37
doesn't, especially at the end of this episode. Keep going. So then
52:44
Erica is like, well, it's not about she says, it's not.
52:47
It wasn't about that. It was about the kids just have access to everything.
52:52
And I see that point. I see what Erica's point is. Yeah,
52:55
in that moment, But the way that she said it later, when
53:00
she doubled down on it and said that thing when Denise wasn't around, I
53:01
thought was really inappropriate. So that being said, yes, of course,
53:06
Erica has a point that kids know everything and why, but it still doesn't
53:09
mean that you can't act like a respectable adult when there's children at the next
53:14
table, and if you say something inappropriate, you shouldn't be like, ohit
53:17
sorry, because like that happens all the time. I mean, you know
53:20
what I'm saying, Like you're with adults, kids are in the room,
53:22
and you're like fuckballs and you're like, I'm sorry, you know what I
53:24
mean, Like, just own the fact that it's like, oh, I
53:28
said something a little bit too blue, and like that's it and then just
53:30
move on. But Erica could never do that, which was always strange to
53:35
me. I don't think she did. It's also strange because with Tom Girardi
53:42
and Erica's son, if there's even I'm talking about before, if there was
53:45
even a whiff of somebody saying something bad about either one of those, it
53:52
would be like she would pop off like nobody's seen before. And so the
53:58
fact that she can be so casual with other people's families in these ways and
54:04
think like somebody's overreacting, like there is a bit of a coypacrisy contradiction.
54:12
Indeed, I completely agree, and so her saying like, it's not about
54:16
that, it's about the kids have access to everything. In Denise's point is
54:20
it's about my kids though, and I think that that's where she does have
54:23
the ability to hone in and actually explain what she's talking about, which was
54:28
great. And then Erica was like, okay, but your oldest daughter is
54:32
not OnlyFans, so doesn't she know? Then that's where we cross the old
54:37
line. And there is where we cross the line. However, however,
54:44
what no, okay, all right? So I think where didn't where Erica
54:49
went wrong was this happened two to three years ago. She should have just
54:52
apologized when Sammy or whomever at that table was not of age to be even
54:59
be on only fans. Okay, because it's been years, so she should
55:01
have said, I shouldn't have said that they were they were kids, right,
55:07
But instead she went to ariasands dot period period dot. Now she goes
55:12
into the only fans thing. Okay, my, however is this I had
55:17
this wild thought that Erica is setting up Denise to do her a favor and
55:25
to do her daughter a favor by promoting OnlyFans. Am I not insaying,
55:30
oh, that's Wow, No, I like, that's crazy. I don't
55:36
know. I think I'm I might be in left field about this. I
55:38
think I might be in left field. But my thought was, Lisa,
55:42
Rinna and Denise, we know. I think at some point they may have
55:49
made up at some point, like they may have exchanged some sort of information
55:52
towards each other recently and be like in an okay place. And I think
55:59
maybe Renna, you know, Renna and Erica are besties. And I think
56:04
if we go deep into the world of like what we don't see behind the
56:08
scenes, Renna doing Denise a favor, Denise is all of a sudden back
56:14
on Real Housewives. Why she doesn't need to do it? Why is she
56:19
there? Oh, Denise, I'm sorry, No, I'm sorry. You're
56:22
right. I completely apologize for that. She does need to do it,
56:25
So she's there, But for what purpose? To promote her only fans,
56:32
to promote her daughter's only fans. So how can you make it right if
56:36
you've hurt her daughter, make it up to her by using one of the
56:40
biggest platforms out there, which is to promote her only fans. And by
56:45
doing that, we're dealing with two great actresses. Erica and Denise, And
56:49
when I look at the way they're acting at each other in this scene,
56:53
Denise is like, that's a low blow to bring up my daughters. Only
57:00
fans Interesting Sammy dot OnlyFans dot com and Erica being like and her being like,
57:10
you're a mean woman, and Erica's like, because you asked for it.
57:16
You shouldn't have come in acting like a fucking bitch. Then we wouldn't
57:21
be here. You shouldn't have acted like a fucking bitch. What four years
57:27
ago when nobody remembers you are mean? I think it's great. Who's more
57:35
profitable you or Sammy on OnlyFans Dot Denise Richards dot com and OnlyFans Dot Sammy
57:44
dot com. You know what I mean. That's where my head went because
57:47
I was like, this scene is giving soap opera slash undertones of acting slash.
57:57
There might be a payback here, and Erica's doing she's taking a fall
58:01
for Denise and they're working together. I don't know, I could be insane.
58:07
Please weigh in, Darlings, Emily, Yeah, weigh in, because
58:10
we are. Also I could see Erica doing this in a different season,
58:15
but not the season where she's trying to rebuild her brand, which she go
58:19
after the kids so hard. Good point, good point. And but Sammy's
58:23
of age now, she's of age and she is on OnlyFans, And she
58:28
has a point like, you don't just go from normal childhood and not knowing
58:34
about threesomes to being on OnlyFans two years later, you know what I'm saying.
58:38
So her point about well no, because Sammy was like, how old
58:43
is Sammy? Then? Fourteen? Now she's like twenty, right, or
58:46
we couldn't be that. I don't know who how old is sam I don't
58:50
know, but it could it was only two or three years ago. So
58:54
if she's twenty now, then she would have been sixteen or But to Erica's
58:59
point, Eric was saying every child, every normal child, could because the
59:06
act if you have a cell phone, you can see whatever you want to
59:10
see. So I think to Eric's point, it was a weird thing where
59:15
I was like, well, are you talking generally or are you talking about
59:19
Denise's kids. She did it, She did both both. I think she
59:22
did both. And she's not owning up to the time that she did speak
59:23
directly to Denise's kid, which she should have apologized for. Right, And
59:29
I don't think that that's any I do think, like I don't want to
59:32
go too hard in on Denise's kids upbringing, because we know, like Charlie
59:38
Sheen is maybe a difficult person to the kids with absolutely it's not even like,
59:45
yeah, it's not even fair. It's not even fair. Yeah.
59:49
And also like in terms of like only fans, I mean, I don't
59:52
know, I just don't know much about that whole vibe. But I think
59:57
there's no problem with being a sex worker, and she calls herself a sex
1:00:00
worker and there is no issue with that. So that being said, yeah,
1:00:05
well, I just think like the way Erica her tone and going after
1:00:12
the kids and having a real shameful tone to it, I just don't think
1:00:16
in Erica's rebrand of Erica, she's going to do that. Okay, well
1:00:21
that's a really good point, and so this could be as real as real
1:00:23
guts then, you know, I mean. And then in Erica saying like
1:00:30
when she said you're mean, you know, and she's like, of course
1:00:31
I'm going to go low. Have you met me? Like was kind of
1:00:36
one of the more iconic lines I've ever heard in the Housewives history, because
1:00:42
that encapsulates somebody who is owning their shit right there, and they are unapologetic
1:00:50
and they know who they are. And I was proud of her for that
1:00:52
moment. So that being said, bravo for that. However, I'm not
1:00:55
saying I don't like going after the kids. Yeah, I don't know.
1:01:04
I'm really on the fence because and I felt this way about the scene with
1:01:07
Renna and Denise when when she was like, ooh, you're so angry.
1:01:12
It was like Renna was throwing the bone to Denise, like let's let's play,
1:01:17
you know, let's act. You know, we've got our backgrounds.
1:01:22
Let's turn it up a notch. You and I can do this. Let's
1:01:25
get messy. Let's give these people the show of a lifetime. And Denise
1:01:30
wasn't here for it because she didn't get it. She didn't understand it.
1:01:35
She didn't understand it back then. But I feel like now she does and
1:01:38
that's why she's equipped to come back. I think a Denise, I think,
1:01:45
well, let's not forget. Denise was a huge fan of the show.
1:01:51
She was like the celebrity fan that they couldn't believe that they landed as
1:01:54
a housewise right, But when she got on. She was like, Oh,
1:01:58
this is real, Like you really are going to exploit me, you
1:02:00
really are going to go go for the you know, jugular. She thought
1:02:07
that she could do it with boundaries, and you can't do it like that.
1:02:08
You can't do with boundaries. I man, interesting theory. I don't
1:02:15
know. I mean, honestly, I'm probably completely wrong, but I'm just
1:02:21
telling you a little theory, a little theory for you guys to think about
1:02:23
over the holiday season. But I loved it. I mean, I love
1:02:30
the scene. I really liked Erica in this scene, but I don't think
1:02:36
she ever like But this is so on brand for her. She's never owned
1:02:38
up to anything. She never owns up to anything, so that's on brand
1:02:42
for her. So I gotta take it where well, I have to correct
1:02:46
you there, because this season she is owning up to things in a very
1:02:51
emotional way, like her big crime scene at Eagle Fest whatever that was,
1:02:59
and then when she's talking to her PR person, M Yeah, I mean
1:03:05
it's a surface level thing. I don't think it goes very deep with her,
1:03:08
but there's at least the optics are that she's correcting things. The optics,
1:03:14
Yes, thank you for that. Trend setting word. Yes, the
1:03:16
optics are there, and I think your point is good about like, why
1:03:21
would she go in this direction if she's trying to rebuild, you know,
1:03:27
go in this direction in terms of housewives the code of ethics. You went
1:03:31
for the kids. You don't go for the kids if you're trying to be
1:03:36
on a redemption arc. Yeah, and she went hard. Yeah, but
1:03:44
maybe she would take that hit if it was for the benefit of actually supporting
1:03:49
Sammy in the long run. I don't think she's that altruistic. And I
1:03:52
think that she will claim it at the reunion when Denise comes on the couch
1:03:57
and she said, oh please, I no one helped your only fans more
1:04:01
than I did by giving you the spotlight. Yeah, So I don't know.
1:04:13
Maybe maybe it will retroactively be what you're saying, right, but not
1:04:17
like she'll back into it. But it's not what I'm saying. I think
1:04:21
what you just did is gave her her redemption out of that scene. So
1:04:27
maybe, yeah, but that would be like, but that would that would
1:04:30
expose the underbelly of the planning and that wouldn't be good either. No,
1:04:35
but Erica will say she was doing it without Denise's knowledge. Okay, all
1:04:43
right, Yeah, that's a good point. Well, anything else, I
1:04:46
mean we went right to that dinner party, but is there anything else like
1:04:51
Taco Tuesday? Anything else you want to Oh something joined Denise's only fans to
1:04:56
see. Yeah, that was great. And that dude at the top of
1:05:00
the show soal that some went on a date with He's sweating profusely telling stories
1:05:04
about his mom. That was rough. That was really rough, and they
1:05:11
dedicated a lot of time to him, which I am grateful for. Yeah,
1:05:15
he was really putting it on. Yeah, but yeah, I thought
1:05:19
it was a great episode. Oh we did get that line that we've been
1:05:24
seeing for so long, which is Erica at drink saying, did you know
1:05:26
it's seven dollars for a naked bundle of the knees on only vans? Yes,
1:05:30
yes, which that was prior to her Las Vegas show which everyone destroyed
1:05:36
her for. Yeah. Remember the trailer came out and that was when Eric's
1:05:40
tickets were really cheap and they were like, oh dare you. Yeah.
1:05:44
I like that the fans have the backs of, you know, the underdog.
1:05:47
When a housewife says something that ends up backfiring because her tickets were being
1:05:54
given out for a dollar or sold for a dollar or something like that.
1:05:57
I don't know. Yeah, h they'll come for you, they sure will.
1:06:03
All right, Well, that was really fun. Listen. We are
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1:06:15
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