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Buttigieg slams Trump, Hegseths Iran war approach · THE DAILY BRIEF

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  Speaker 1: Secretary Hegseth went so far as to say that the
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  Speaker 1: strait of horror moves is open. Other than the fact
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  Speaker 1: that there would be fire against vehicles transiting the strait,
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  Speaker 1: this is clearly amateur hour.
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  Speaker 2: As the war in.
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  Speaker 3: The Middle East escalates, my next guest says that we've
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  Speaker 3: seen this movie before joining us now former Transportation Secretary
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  Speaker 3: and Afghan war veteran Pete Buddha Jeddge. I want to
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  Speaker 3: play something that Defense Secretary Pete Hegsath said earlier this
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  Speaker 3: week about how this war differs from the wars in
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  Speaker 3: Iraq and Afghanistan.
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  Speaker 4: Take a listen, this is not two thousand and three.
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  Speaker 4: This is not endless nation building under those types of
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  Speaker 4: quagmires we saw under Bush or Obama. It's not even close.
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  Speaker 4: Our generation of soldier will not let that happen again.
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  Speaker 3: You're also a part of that generation, a soldier. What's
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  Speaker 3: your take?
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  Speaker 1: What I'm worried about is not the soldiers and the
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  Speaker 1: people who are serving. What I'm worried about is their
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  Speaker 1: political leadership, like Pete Haggs than Donald Trump. You know,
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  Speaker 1: we lived through a war that was sold to us
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  Speaker 1: on false pretenses. When I was younger. This war has
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  Speaker 1: not been sold on any pretense. The President just went
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  Speaker 1: ahead and did it. Here's the biggest thing that has
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  Speaker 1: not changed since the war in Afghanistan or the war
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  Speaker 1: in Iraq. The biggest thing that has not changed is
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  Speaker 1: who pays the price. We have now seen thirteen American
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  Speaker 1: service members killed. And when you prepare to go to war,
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  Speaker 1: the thing you think about, the thing you most dread
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  Speaker 1: is your family being the ones to get that knock
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  Speaker 1: on the door. More than a dozen American families have
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  Speaker 1: now gotten that knock on the door, and the President
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  Speaker 1: has basically assured us that there will be more where
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  Speaker 1: that came from. And while they're paying the ultimate price,
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  Speaker 1: every American is paying some price right now. Mortgage rates
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  Speaker 1: are up because of this war. Food is going to
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  Speaker 1: be more expensive because of this war. And of course
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  Speaker 1: the price of gas that we're paying at the pump
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  Speaker 1: is more expensive because of this war.
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  Speaker 3: So the Trump administration argues that they needed to take
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  Speaker 3: action to take out Iran's nuclear weapons program and Iran's
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  Speaker 3: ballistic missile because when they came into office, the Biden administration,
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  Speaker 3: your administration had done nothing in four years to stop
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  Speaker 3: and run from building a nuclear weapon, developing ballistic missiles,
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  Speaker 3: funding terrorism around the world. Are they wrong, Yes, of
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  Speaker 3: course they're wrong.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, for one thing, the president assured us that
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  Speaker 1: the nuclear program. President Trump assured us that the nuclear
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  Speaker 1: program was, in his words, obliterated just a few months ago.
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  Speaker 1: And let's also remember that in the past, Iran's nuclear
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  Speaker 1: program was contained without a shot being fired. I think
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  Speaker 1: President Trump thought he could get a better deal than
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  Speaker 1: the Obama administration did. He failed to get that better deal,
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  Speaker 1: and he went off and launched a war without planning,
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  Speaker 1: without being ready for even some of the most basic things.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, it is a certainty that the military would
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  Speaker 1: have advised him that the straits of Horrmus would have
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  Speaker 1: been closed, that that was a likely scenario. And yet
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  Speaker 1: they're talking about this and clearly acting as though they
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  Speaker 1: didn't think this would happen. The Secretary of Hegseth went
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  Speaker 1: so far as to say that the Strait of Horrmus
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  Speaker 1: is open, other than the fact that there would be
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  Speaker 1: fire against vehicles transiting the strait. This is clearly amateur
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  Speaker 1: hour at the Pentagon and in the White House. And
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  Speaker 1: again the price is being paid by all of us.
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  Speaker 1: You can also just tell from the administration's attitude towards
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  Speaker 1: this war, the fact that they're putting out videos treating
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  Speaker 1: this like a video game. It's not a video game
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  Speaker 1: for the families of the fallen. And then just this
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  Speaker 1: week we saw fund campaign fundraising materials being put out
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  Speaker 1: emails where the President's committee, the President's political operation, was
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  Speaker 1: raising money off of images of him at a dignified transfer.
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  Speaker 1: Any politician who does that has no business leading American
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  Speaker 1: troops in the war. If the President is willing to
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  Speaker 1: raise campaign funds over the bodies of America's war dead,
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  Speaker 1: he is unfit to be the commander in chief.
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  Speaker 3: Let's talk about the status of the war. My panel
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  Speaker 3: joins me. Now, Congressman, I mean, President Trump just said
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  Speaker 3: a few hours ago on social media that Iran has
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  Speaker 3: been beaten, So why are we still there?
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  Speaker 5: Right?
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  Speaker 6: Yeah, this is this has been the big mistake of
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  Speaker 6: the administration. You could argue we never should have done
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  Speaker 6: anything with the war, but I would say the biggest
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  Speaker 6: mistake is just not preparing the American people for it.
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  Speaker 6: And then when you realize this is going to take
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  Speaker 6: a few days longer than you think. Right now, a
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  Speaker 6: couple of weeks longer. Then it's just constantly Oh, that's
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  Speaker 6: all right, we already won though, don't worry. Tomorrow it'll
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  Speaker 6: be better. And I think the President, in his own way,
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  Speaker 6: we've seen this before, is panicking because the market takes
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  Speaker 6: a hit, because people are turning against him, and he
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  Speaker 6: wants to live in this world where we're right on one,
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  Speaker 6: you know, being successful in one day. I just think
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  Speaker 6: he needs to level with people and say what the
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  Speaker 6: truth is. Hey, we may be done tomorrow, this may
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  Speaker 6: go on for a few more weeks. The straight of
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  Speaker 6: horror moves is going to matter.
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  Speaker 3: That's the leveling with the American people. Right about the
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  Speaker 3: Iranian people, because in January, President Trump was saying help
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  Speaker 3: is on the way, right, and now it seems pretty
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  Speaker 3: clear that regime change is not necessarily in the cards.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, and the Iranian people are squeezed between the air
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  Speaker 5: strikes and a regime that is extremely brutal. I mean,
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  Speaker 5: people tell me that there are roadblocks everywhere in the
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  Speaker 5: country and eighty eight year old was telling me that
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  Speaker 5: he was made forced to get off his car to
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  Speaker 5: open up his trunk at a gunpoint. So yeah, it's
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  Speaker 5: not a good situation. Tehran was under intense bombing last night,
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  Speaker 5: and so was the city of Esfahan, And people are
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  Speaker 5: just waiting, waiting to see what's going to happen.
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  Speaker 2: Where are we in the war, Well, I think the
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  Speaker 2: president's face. The reason you're hearing some uncertain or mixed
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  Speaker 2: signals is because they have two choices. The first choice
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  Speaker 2: has already been made. We're going to end Iron's military
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  Speaker 2: capabilities and in their ability to project terror and force abroad.
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  Speaker 2: The second choice, whether you take their oil infrastructure out.
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  Speaker 2: They're all export infrastructure. You don't take it out. If
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  Speaker 2: it looks like there's going to be a regime that
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  Speaker 2: rises in place in Iran that we could deal with
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  Speaker 2: and it would be peaceful for the region, you'd leave
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  Speaker 2: that in infrastructure intact. If that's going to happen. If
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  Speaker 2: it's not going to happen, it's not going to happen,
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  Speaker 2: then we have to take out their role life.
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  Speaker 3: I'm just telling you it's not going to happen, Like
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  Speaker 3: I mean, I don't sense at least at this point,
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  Speaker 3: any notion that there's going to be some sort of
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  Speaker 3: reasonable government.
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  Speaker 2: Well, but then in that case, we have to leave
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  Speaker 2: it decapitated militarily and unable to export oil to China
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  Speaker 2: and Russia.
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  Speaker 3: You've been out there talking to people in the field
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  Speaker 3: about the midterms. Are is this coming up at all?
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  Speaker 3: Are the American people engaged in the war.
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  Speaker 7: It's really interesting. So I did spend a couple of
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  Speaker 7: days with these are you know, organizers who are in
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  Speaker 7: community and you would think it's housing, it's healthcare, and
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  Speaker 7: those are concerns. The war is coming up. It's percolating
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  Speaker 7: in a couple of ways. Young people who are angry
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  Speaker 7: and similar to our own polling, angry that he broke
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  Speaker 7: his promise, worried that they could.
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  Speaker 3: Be focus promise about taking about taking.
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  Speaker 7: The country to war. And I should mention that these
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  Speaker 7: are like black and brown young people, some of whom
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  Speaker 7: are in the military or come from families that have
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  Speaker 7: military service, and parents are worried about their kids being
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  Speaker 7: sent and they're not buying it. They know it's a war.
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  Speaker 7: They're not buying you know. Politically, the president is trying
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  Speaker 7: to and Republicans are trying to not say it's a war,
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  Speaker 7: but they know it's a war and they know our
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  Speaker 7: troops are in danger. And so it's just interesting that
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  Speaker 7: in a time in communities where you would think these
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  Speaker 7: cost issues would be top issues that actually people are.
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  Speaker 7: I mean they even asked one of the senators this
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  Speaker 7: week about the War Powers Resolution, which you know, really yes,
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  Speaker 7: I mean they know it was like, oh, this housing
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  Speaker 7: bill is great, but wait, we want to talk about
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  Speaker 7: the War Powers Act, Which when did you ever hear
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  Speaker 7: that from activists on the front line?
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  Speaker 3: Red Do you disagree with Congressman Cansinger that there wasn't
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  Speaker 3: enough preparation in terms of communications to the American people
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  Speaker 3: about why this is happening, how long it's going to take,
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  Speaker 3: et cetera.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, I think I wish the President had talked
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  Speaker 2: about it in the State of the Union address, but
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  Speaker 2: he has spent seven months telling Americans that we have
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  Speaker 2: to take out Iron's ability to project power abroad. And
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  Speaker 2: for Frankly, this is seven presidents too late. He's the
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  Speaker 2: first president who's the guts to take out the force
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  Speaker 2: that has caused chaos and mayhem and killed Americans almost
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  Speaker 2: every administration going all the way back to Jimmy Carter.
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  Speaker 3: And we're seeing in a different thread environment right now.
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  Speaker 3: I mean attacks on the synagogue at Old Dominion University.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, there is I'm not blaming it on President Trump,
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  Speaker 3: but there is now this cost at home.
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  Speaker 6: Yeah there is. And you know this is I don't
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  Speaker 6: think this is necessarily iron projecting its power. But you know,
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  Speaker 6: anytime you have a big thing that is religiously could
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  Speaker 6: be interpreted as religious, you have, you know, a chance
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  Speaker 6: that somebody gets radicalized. And I think that's what you're seeing,
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  Speaker 6: these low wolf radicalizations. And I'll also say what Brad
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  Speaker 6: was saying makes sense, and the administration should actually hire
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  Speaker 6: you to come out and lay that out, which is,
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  Speaker 6: we'll take out your oil. If you're gonna be bad,
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  Speaker 6: we'll leave it if you're gonna be good. Uh, that's
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  Speaker 6: I think Americans need to hear that. You know, are
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  Speaker 6: we gonna are we gonna occupy carg Island or not?
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  Speaker 6: Are we gonna hold it hostage? While we'll kind of
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  Speaker 6: figured out.
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  Speaker 3: What happened in Iran if the US takes out.
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  Speaker 5: The oil hark Islands specifically is the economic lifeline of
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  Speaker 5: the Islamic Republic and of Iran. Just to make the threat,
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  Speaker 5: it has a psychological impact on the Iranian regime. Let's
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  Speaker 5: not forget that hark was under intense bombing during the
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  Speaker 5: war with Iraq and ultimately was one of the key
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  Speaker 5: reasons that Iran surrendered and agreed to assign a piece
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  Speaker 5: deal with Iraq of Iran's oil is exported from that island,
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  Speaker 5: and if it comes under attack, it will retaliate.