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S1E8 - 'Pandora's Box' · Dished at Birth

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Hey, we had a little tech issue at first, but
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we're good now, hopefully. Let's talk about Deafula.
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Let's talk about Deafula, which we did not do
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the first time. So, for those of you who don’t
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know, Deafula, not Dracula, Deafula, is a 1975
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horror movie, black and white, and it was directed
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by a deaf person, and it was filmed with deaf
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people as actors, for deaf people. It's entirely
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in sign language in the original film. Had no
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voiceover. But then I think the releases after
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do have voiceover. But I heard about it a couple
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months back. And I was like, wait a second. I
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absolutely need to see this. And also because
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it reminded me of Daphne's obsession with Deafenstein
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in Switched at Birth, which I found out was just
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a ripoff of that. But I guess they didn't use Deafula
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because of the copyright. Anyways, I go on eBay
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immediately and I type in Deafula. And I find
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the DVD for Deafula that says, rare hearing impaired
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DVD. And I say, okay, sure. Buy it for 15 bucks.
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And then I had a little screening at the apartment
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last weekend. What a score. I know. It was a
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blast. And the movie is odd. Odd, but in a really
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iconic way. I had so much fun. It's so fun.
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The plot is impossible to follow. And it's not
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because we couldn't hear or we couldn't understand
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the signing. No, the signing was overall pretty
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clear. Yeah, for 1975, it has not changed that
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much. Not changed that much. There were some
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weird filming choices, I would say. Yeah, they
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did Switched at Birth -core, where they filmed some
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people from behind the back and whatnot. They
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did a lot of fingerspelling. They did do a lot
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of fingerspelling. Like very Rochester Method.
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Rochester Method was like an old version of signing
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where people just fingerspelled everything. Ooh,
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that's Paolo's nightmare. There were a lot
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of bellbottoms. Fantastic outfits. Yeah, great
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hair. Beautiful hair. A prosthetic nose. A prosthetic
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nose that was bordering on the verge of being anti
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-Semitic but I think the director is Jewish so
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that's fine. It was camp. It was very camp and
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you were saying before like we should have a
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shadow cast, a deaf shadow cast of this movie,
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and I could not agree more. You should make that
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happen. You should produce that. I should. I would
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love that. Yeah okay. Yeah um go see Deafula, it's
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also on YouTube for free with the voiceover,
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and if you want captions, I'm pretty sure YouTube
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could auto-generate them. I don't know how good
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they'll be. The voiceover was pretty easy to
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understand. Yeah, the voiceover was very clear.
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Yeah, I think they did a pretty decent job. The
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quality is an old black and white horror film,
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and I don't think it was ever released, so whatever
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it was being distributed was taken somehow, and
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the quality is kind of shitty. Yeah, but it's
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not too distracting. Yeah, it's not unwatchable.
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But just a warning. Anyway, I've got to tell
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you about this Target ad I keep getting. Oh,
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from watching Switched at Birth? Yes. So I'm watching
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with ads, but I keep getting distracted because
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this ad that's playing, and this episode will
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come out in December, so I'm sure it'll be playing
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even more. Okay. Is like a woman is on a date
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with a man who is clearly Santa, but she doesn't
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notice that he's Santa. But he's like being very
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forthcoming about the fact that he's Santa. But
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they're on a date and he's like, so what kind
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of stuff is on your list? And she's like, my
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list? And he's like, yeah, like, what do you
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want? And she's like, oh, I don't really know.
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Thinking they're on a date. And he's like, well,
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I've already started my list. I'm checking it
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twice. And she's like, you have a list? And he's
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like, yeah. And he pulls it out. And then he's
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like, hold on. And he like goes to the other
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side of the room and she opens the list and she's
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like, Owala water bottle. He's hydrated.
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And then he comes back and he's like, sorry,
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I had to add someone to the naughty list. And
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she goes, the naughty list? How do I get on there?
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And he's like, you want to be on the naughty
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list? You want coal? And then I think it clicks
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for her that he's Santa. But I just like, why
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would you do that to Santa? Is he hot Santa?
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He's like younger, like mid-40s, kind of trim.
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Okay. With like a much cleaned up beard Santa.
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Why did they do that to Santa? I don't know, it's really
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disturbing to me. You don't need to yassify him.
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Every break. Every ad break, I just get that ad.
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So I have to see it every time. This sounds like
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the longest ad ever. It's actually so short, too.
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So much happens in so little time, but it's really
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disturbing. I gotta find this ad after. Do you
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want to get to the show? Yeah, let's get to the
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show. Cue music. All right. Switched at Birth
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Season 1, Episode 8, Pandora's Box, released
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July 25, 2011. Oh my god, I did not look up the
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painting. Me neither, actually. I was just like,
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oh, Pandora's Box. That makes sense. I'm sure
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there's many paintings with that name. There's
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so many paintings. Okay. It's not that deep.
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The box is the guitar case. Yeah. Curiosity leads
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Daphne to open a container. Releasing curses
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upon mankind. We pick up right where we left
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off. Daphne's in that bedroom looking at the
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pictures in the guitar case. Yeah. And Regina
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walks in and is like, oh. This is just a side
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note, and it's not important for the emotional
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moment, but she's wearing shoes in her bedroom,
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and I hated that. Oh, I mention it later on.
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She wears shoes on the bed. When she's listening
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to her angry rock music, her feet are on the
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bed. Her dirty purple Converse are on the bed.
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Do you still wear Converse? No, not really. Okay,
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then I feel good slandering them. I hate Converse
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so much. And I also think they're kind of ugly.
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And I think the fact that they take like 10 minutes
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to put on and take off is just like abysmal.
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I know it's not actually that long. I like them.
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This sounds old. I sound like an old lady now.
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But my complaint is that they just don't have
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a lot of support for my feet. No, I have terrible
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feet. So I agree. That's one of the reasons I
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never wore them. I loved them in middle school
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and high school. I always wore the flat. Not
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the high tops, but the low top black Converse,
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always. Those were also the ones I had. But I
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just feel like they're not, especially in New
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York, where you're going into people's apartments
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and taking off your shoes, typically. Paolo's
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brother, whenever he visits us, he like only
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wears Converse. Okay. And so every time we're
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exiting and entering the home, he takes like
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five minutes extra time. It was also the same
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growing up with friends who wore Doc Martens.
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Yes. With the laces. Yeah. 10 minutes to put
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those on and off. Yeah. They were always like, I
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have a blister, it's like yeah, because of those
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damn shoes. Where are their socks? I had a pair of Doc
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Martens that I bought off of eBay. Vintage, red
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leather Doc Martens that were like a size and
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a half too big, so I had to wear double socks
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with them, and like one pair had to be those
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like really fluffy socks. Yep. And because they
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were a size and a half too big they were also
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fucking heavy. So I was just like clomping around
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in these big shoes. That's awful. I know. Anyways,
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yeah. Regina steps into the bedroom and is like,
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uh-oh, just got caught. Not sure why she brought
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this to the apartment. That seems like that was
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a stupid idea. It's so risky. So risky. She probably
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should have gotten rid of it. Just put it in
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storage. Not even Melody's garage. You're getting
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paid so well now with the Mission Hills tippers
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at your hair salon. Yeah, rent your own storage
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unit. Then no one can see that. Anyways, yeah.
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We know that now Regina knew about the switch
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a long time ago and the two of them are about
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to talk about it until Kathryn interrupts wielding
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a scarf for Regina. The scarf was so funny. It's
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a symbol of her friendship. It is. She said we're
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friends now. She decided they're friends in like
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the last episode. And that's going to be destroyed
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soon. She brings her a scarf and she's like prattling
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on about how she's found it and not reading
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the room at all. At one point, she's like, did
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I interrupt something? And Daphne's like, no,
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I'm fine. Only after Daphne does the most obvious,
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like, upset, she, like, stomps to get her mom's
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attention. Oh, yeah. And she's like, are you
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gonna tell her? Obviously, it doubles as just,
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like, that is a way to get someone's attention.
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Yeah. But also, she's being a moody teenager.
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It was very fun to see Daphne, like, act out
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a little bit. I know. She does a lot of acting
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out this episode. Yeah. And thank God. She's
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earned it. But they're signing and Kathryn's
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there and Kathryn is on her ASL journey. So
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she probably has a couple of little basics down
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and they are being so obvious. Regina literally,
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she does the more of the common universal one.
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Like the pointer finger to the lips, like shush.
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Yeah, that means hush. Don't talk about it in,
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I think, universally, like pretty much every
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language. If you do that, people are going to
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be quiet. Kathryn's watching this interaction
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and then being like, huh, I wonder what's wrong.
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I was like, you can pick up some cues. Yeah.
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Again, you can read the room a little, but she
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barely gets there. And also, Daphne's talking
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about Kathryn in front of Kathryn because
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she's like, are you going to tell her? And she
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points to Kathryn and Kathryn is like, huh,
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I don't know if they're talking about me or not.
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Yeah, wonder. Yeah, but Kathryn's just like,
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anyway, do you want to go get an ice blended?
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What's an ice blended? Like a frappuccino. Oh,
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okay. I think they weren't, they couldn't call
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it a frappuccino because that's, I think, trademarked
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by Starbucks. I thought it was a slushie. I mean,
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if they make it wrong, it's basically a slushie.
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And then Regina's left standing there with her
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sad little scarf wrapped around her. I do also
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want to circle back to when they first try to
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have a conversation and Daphne's like, what the
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fuck? And Regina's like, well, I kind of knew.
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And then Kathryn interrupts. They're already
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simcomming. Yeah. So I had a question for you
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about that. Go on. Or I guess more of a, a proposed-
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I've imagined a backstory in my head. As to why
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she simcoms? As to why she simcoms. Okay. And it's
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related to us talking about her language deprivation.
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Daphne's language deprivation period and also
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her learning sign late and her mom learning sign
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late. I wonder if they simcom because for Daphne
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and Regina, like the foundational years of their
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relationship took place in spoken English. And
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so, even though they both sign now like, I do won-
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I think- I mean, it's for us obviously, but I'm
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gonna, I'm proposing- You're trying to justify
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why on earth are they doing this. Yes, especially
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when Daphne's like incredibly upset, I would think
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that your brain would default to one language
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because simcomming is so difficult. And more
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of a strain. I would think that you would- Why
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do serious conversation? Yeah, pick one and I would
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think she would pick ASL. Yes. But instead she's
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simcomming and Regina's simcomming, and again
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I do wonder if it's because they were presumably
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Daphne had some English. Right, she has some English
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because you know, the critical period to learn
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a language is before the age of five. Yeah. So
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she went deaf at three. So she definitely has
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three years of exposure to English. Yeah. But
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then five years of nothing. Hmm. I don't know.
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So you're saying because Regina learned late
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when Daphne was, what, seven or eight? Not
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just because of that, but because they had their
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first eight years of a relationship. Maybe that's
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how they started. They communicated in English.
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I do wonder if that's how they started communicating
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together, is that they simcommed to learn the
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language. And maybe that's just what they always
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do together. And I think, again, this is a way
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of justifying it. And obviously, the reason they're
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doing it is because it's for a hearing audience.
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But yeah, and maybe it was Regina's way of trying
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to learn. Because I'm sure Daphne was picking
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up much faster. She was young and a child. And
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then I assume she went to a deaf school very
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quickly. Yeah. And she picked up the language
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very fast. And maybe that was what, their way of
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learning was simcomming and then picking up the
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pieces in between and being- and maybe saying
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English when she didn't know the sign. Yeah.
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And then maybe Daphne would signed when she didn't
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know the words in English. I don't know. Anyway,
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that's just like a security blanket for me so
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that I don't keep getting annoyed about it. I
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know. Yeah. John confronts Regina and he says,
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so the deposition is tomorrow. The lawyers apparently
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have something, like a fun little secret. Do
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you have any idea what it is? And she's like,
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nope, sorry, no idea. That's a crazy choice.
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For Regina not to share? I mean, what did she
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think was going to happen? Do you think she was
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just hoping it was something else? Well, she
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said it's probably my DUIs. Yeah, but you know
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she's lying. Yeah. I think she's just cornered
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and probably doesn't know what to do yet. She's
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still in shock. Oh, my God. Yeah, the entire
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episode is her panicking and trying to hide everything.
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Yeah, I was stressed for her this episode. It
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was stressful to watch. And then Daphne is at
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Buckner for her cooking class, and she bumps
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straight into Wilke. And she's like, I hate
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my mom. Wanna ditch school? And he's so cute,
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and he says, yeah. Yeah, he's suspended from
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school, too. That's true. So he's like, yeah,
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I can't even be here anyway, so let's ditch.
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And where do they go? East Riverside. What I was
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really distracted by is that Daphne breaks into-
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she like hops over a fence. Yes, it's her moment
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to be like, look I'm from here. She like very skillfully
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scales a fence and hops over onto the river. It's
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just like a bridge over a canal. So this- they
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filmed in LA, this is just the LA river. Oh, great.
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Which was like really weird for me to see. And
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also I was like, I would personally never walk
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down there, but love that for you guys. Okay,
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great. Yeah, they hop the fence and she calls
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him veal. Yeah, she compares him to veal, sheltered
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and raised in a box because he's being uncomfortable
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about being in East Riverside and he's worried
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about his car getting stolen. And this is funny
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because she's vegetarian. Very funny sentence
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to say. And then Bay shows up at Carlton. Yeah,
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she's waiting for Emmett at Carlton. And she
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said, hey, why'd you kiss me? Yeah, she really,
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she unloads on him. He responds by kissing her
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again and she reciprocates. It's so cute. And
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then they decide to ditch school. Well, first
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of all, she brings up Ty, who she hasn't brought
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up since he left. Yeah, that's true. I was going
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to pine for Ty and listen to Adele and make art.
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And now you've just like thrown that whole plan
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off. I had a whole plan. Yeah. And she's talking
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at him so fast. Meanwhile. He's not hearing any
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of this. No, but he's looking gorgeous. He looks
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so cute. He's just like smizing at her. And then
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when she stops talking, he's like, are you finished?
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And then he kisses her again. And then they go
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to like some random public park. Yeah, making
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out in the park. Really bold of them. John and
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Kathryn are practicing for their deposition
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tomorrow. Yes. With the lawyer. I feel like the
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day before is very late to practice for something
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that important. Agreed. And also they're not
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doing too well at it. I don't think I would do
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well at this either. Absolutely not. People attacking
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me and my beliefs and everything I thought. Yeah,
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they basically just rage bait you. That's exactly
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what being a lawyer is. You're rage baiting people.
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So it seems bad. And then Kathryn's trying.
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She's struggling. And then John's kind of scoffing
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at her. And she's like, well, you try. And then
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the lawyer goes, okay, you want to talk about
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Sarah Lazar? Who's that, oh my god. One of the
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things I noticed is that the lawyer asked why
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didn't you notice your baby lost weight? And then
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I want to drop a little fact and that is that
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newborn babies can lose five to ten percent of
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their body weight during the first three days.
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Kara, the way I said that out loud at the TV watching
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it last night, at like one in the morning. I was
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like newborns lose a lot of their body weight
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right after birth. Duh. That's like a famous thing.
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They lose a lot of water weight and then they
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also may not feed immediately, which is exactly
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what Kathryn said. She said, I had trouble
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feeding. And then Regina's outside of her salon
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and she's calling someone. I was like, oh my
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God, is she calling Angelo this early? That's
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crazy. But it's just the private investigator's
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office. She said, didn't you ever hear the word
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private in private investigator? What's up with
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that? I don't think she realizes how the law
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works though. There's no like private investigator-
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client privilege. No, there is not. If they pay
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you or they subpoena you, yeah. And then just
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one note there is that as she's like outside,
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Geraldo comes out and is like, okay, see you
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at 8 a.m. tomorrow. That's crazy. That's very
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early. That's so early for a salon. I've never
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gotten my hair cut before like 11 a.m. Maybe
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some people want cuts before they go to work.
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I feel that Regina is cutting the hair of Mission
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Hills women who don't have jobs. So I don't know
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why they're. Yeah, you're right. Why they would
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be up that early. 10 a.m. at the earliest. Yeah,
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and then Daphne and Wilke are drinking by the
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side of the river. And Wilke tells Daphne, so
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you know Emmett is clearly in love with you,
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right? But he doesn't know Emmett's name, which
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I thought was interesting. Yeah, he should. He
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was like, Edward, Eddie. Yes, and then Twilight
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mentioned, Twilight alert, Daphne's like, Emmett?
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And he goes, see? I knew it was a name from Twilight.
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I was thinking, how does he not know Emmett's
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name? But I guess they only met once when they
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played in that band. Doesn't Wilke introduce
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Emmett to his poker buddies like this is Guitar
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Face's new drummer? But Wilke doesn't care like
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that. Wilke's just like self -absorbed. He only
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really cares a little bit about Daphne and that's
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it. And then himself. And then Toby like 1%.
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And now we are back at the park with Emmett and
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Bay. Oh yeah. They're making out in public. It's
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kind of gross, but also, I guess, cute. Were
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you a, you're not really a PDA person, huh? No,
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not really. I was a big, like, shameless PDA
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person in high school, like a typical teenager.
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Like, I would have seen no problem with this.
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She's lying down on the blanket. I'm like, get
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up. It's a lot. Still now, like, to see teenagers
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doing that, my reaction is like, aw, to be young.
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Yeah, I guess. When it's adults doing it now,
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I'm like, okay. But yeah, when it's teenagers,
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I'm like, oh, to be young and in love. It's sweet.
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That's true. They're really going at it. They're
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really going at it. And Bay keeps interrupting
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to ask ASL questions. And she goes, how do you sign
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kiss? And he teaches her. And then she goes,
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wait, how do you sign laugh? And he teaches her. And
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then she interrupts again. He's like, ugh I just
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wanna makeout. And she asks him, do you ever use
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your voice? And what if you change for me? And
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you spoke? This was rough to watch. Yeah. And
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he rightfully says, girl, you gotta learn ASL.
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Sorry. And then she says, I'm on three different
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sites and I have my private lessons with you.
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I would love to suggest to Bay, take a class
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in person. Yeah. Take a class with someone you
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don't want to kiss. I'm sure there's- Carlton
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probably offers classes. Probably. Yeah. Hey,
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Daphne's taking a cooking class at Buckner. Bay
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can go take an ASL class at Carlton. Literally.
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I think all of them, I think it's really odd
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that they're all like self -taught. The fact
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that Katherine Kennish wasn't like, and we're
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all going to take a class together as a family
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now. Right, Kansas City is a large city with
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a sizable deaf population, especially because
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Carlton is there. Surely they must have some
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sort of class. Then Bay and Emmett go back to
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Emmett's house and Bay finds that his bedroom
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is just a shrine to Daphne. It's pretty bad.
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It's... Like, some are not even pictures of,
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like, Daphne and Emmett. Some are, like, school
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photos of Daphne when she was, like, 12 years
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old. It's a little odd. There's not much to defend
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here. It's pretty bad. Yeah, she's rightfully
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weirded out. Yeah, you can see the trepidation
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in her face, for sure. Yeah, and this will continue.
20:21
Yeah. Emmett, maybe you should have cleared the
20:24
shrine. He probably didn't know she was coming
20:26
over, but... I do think this does speak to, like...
20:30
He does love Daphne, but I don't know that he
20:34
is, like, super active in his, like, and intentional
20:38
in his crush on her, if that makes sense. What
20:41
do you mean by that? The fact that Bay is like,
20:43
you have all these pictures, this is weird, and
20:45
he's like, it's not weird. She's my best friend.
20:48
I don't think he, yeah, I don't think it
20:49
even occurs to him. Yeah, I don't think he thinks
20:51
about it like that. In his defense. Sorry to
20:54
defend a man, but, like, I will defend Emmett.
20:57
Where are his other deaf friends? I also want
21:00
to know that. We see him being like, when she
21:02
shows up at Carlton, we get a shot of Emmett
21:05
being like a cool guy, like with his motorcycle
21:07
jacket and he's signing to his friends that are
21:09
off camera. Show us the friends. I know. They
21:13
didn't have the budget yet. I guess not. Now
21:15
we're back in East Riverside and Wilke's car
21:18
is booted. Aw, man. He had nine unpaid parking
21:22
tickets. That's a lot. A lot. But it's okay because
21:25
he has a boot guy. So they end up making out
21:28
in the back of his Audi, I guess. Daphne's a
21:31
little drunk, and this is the first time we've
21:34
seen drunk Daphne. Yes. And this will go on to
21:37
be a trend. It turns out drunk Daphne is, like,
21:39
she's interested in kissing. Like, she loves
21:42
to get a little bit drunk and then kiss a boy
21:44
she probably shouldn't. Yeah, that's fair. I
21:46
don't know. Wilke, you, full permission. Oh,
21:49
yeah, I would kiss him sober. I don't think she
21:51
needed the encouragement. There's so much making
21:53
out in this episode. There is a lot of making
21:55
out. They, yeah, they get into his car. I do
21:59
love that it's like daylight out still when they
22:02
start making out. And then when we see them in
22:03
the car later in the back of the car, pitch black.
22:06
How long do we think they've been in there? Maybe
22:08
like two hours. I would have had to pee. And
22:11
nothing has changed. Clothes are still on. Clothes
22:14
are kind of coming off though. She has some buttons
22:16
off. Yeah, she's got some buttons off. She's
22:19
like ready to, she's like, yeah, I'm going to
22:21
have sex with Wilke in the back of his booted
22:23
car. Yeah. This is great. But then Wilke brings
22:27
up the switch. Why does he do this? Boner killer.
22:30
Yeah, not smooth, dude. Yeah, he brings up the
22:33
switched at birth thing while they're making out,
22:35
which would also not turn me on. She also says
22:38
he's trying to talk to her and she's like, I
22:40
can't see your lips and I don't want to. Yeah,
22:43
continue making out with me. Yeah. And then he
22:45
goes, but I want to talk about your traumatic
22:48
thing that just happened to you. And then she's
22:50
like, well, you just killed it. Yeah, he's cock
22:53
-blocked himself. So yeah, she's like, I'm gonna
22:56
go get a ride. And then she cock -blocks Emmett
22:59
as well. Yeah, Bay is about to tell Emmett that
23:03
she's Axe Girl. Huge moment. Huge moment. But
23:06
then Daphne cock -blocks. Yeah, she texts him
23:08
several times. And Bay is pissed. They're like
23:11
laying on their bed, kicking their feet one minute.
23:14
And then she is... Storming. She's storming out.
23:17
This does start a trend that I really... don't
23:20
like in Bay and Emmett's relationship where when
23:23
she's upset and Emmett's trying to talk to her
23:26
she'll be like I don't understand what you're
23:29
saying. Even though she does. She just like doesn't
23:33
want to hear him. For some- if you don't have sign
23:35
he's still clearly very easy to understand. He's
23:39
like basically doing mime work for her. His lip reading
23:43
is very easy. Yeah. And she's like, I don't understand
23:46
you and I don't want to. Yeah. It's basically,
23:49
she doesn't want to hear it. And in the future,
23:52
whenever they fight, she does, she falls back
23:54
to that a lot being even when she's like fluent.
23:57
She'll be like, what are you saying? And turn
23:59
away from him and that is very frustrating.
24:02
I would be furious if someone did that to me.
24:05
Yeah. Fuming. So she storms out and she pulls
24:09
down the blanket off the Daphne shrine as she
24:12
leaves. And then they put the blanket up in the
24:14
first place to just cover it. But yeah. Oh my
24:16
God. And then we get a Toby sighting. Yeah, Toby
24:20
is barely in this. He's just looking through
24:23
boxes for some reason. And he finds a pic of
24:26
John in underwear. And I guess an old Sports
24:29
Illustrated ad? It's like a Calvin Klein ad.
24:32
He was holding something in his hand. I think
24:34
he was holding a, wasn't it? He's holding a baseball.
24:36
Oh that makes sense. I posted the photo up close
24:39
on our Instagram story today because it was so
24:42
funny to me. But yeah we just, he just finds that
24:45
and it like brings him so much joy and then he's
24:48
gonna spend the rest of the episode showing- Looking
24:50
for more. Looking for more and then showing every
24:53
single person that's like in crisis in this episode.
24:56
He pops up to be like, look at this, look at this
24:59
funny photo for like two seconds. So question. Was
25:03
this photoshopped or is this an old picture of
25:06
DW Moffett? It looks kind of photoshopped to me
25:08
because his head, no offense DW, but his head
25:12
feels like small for his body or like the proportions
25:16
seem wrong. The head seems disproportionate to
25:20
the rest of the body. Yeah. And it's like a short
25:22
curly haircut. But his hair is straight now.
25:26
It's kind of odd. And it's so funny because we've
25:28
just settled on, I think he's very sexy. I've
25:31
decided, the actor. But he looks, yeah, he looks
25:34
not cute at all. No, it's much younger photo.
25:37
Not for me. Anyway, Emmett picks Daphne up and
25:40
Wilke's like, girl, you're such a liar. You
25:43
are. And then. Bay tries to call the Army? Bay
25:47
like goes home. Calls the Army. Yeah she just- she
25:50
must just like call the training base or whatever,
25:53
and she's like can I speak to Ty? And they're
25:56
like no. No. She's like what if I'm pregnant, can
25:58
I speak to him then? And they hang up on her. Yeah.
26:01
And then she's like what if I call Liam now? My
26:05
jaw dropped when Liam's name came out of her
26:07
mouth. Get a grip. Liam mentioned. And Toby says
26:10
the same thing, basically. He's like, why are
26:12
you doing this to yourself? He's like, why are
26:14
you doing this? Look at this ad. Why don't you
26:16
look at this old picture of your father instead?
26:19
And then she's like, you're right, that does
26:20
cheer me up. And then Regina's outside. Exterior
26:23
driveway. Exterior driveway. She's trying to put
26:26
this guitar case in her car. It's taking her a very
26:29
long time to figure out how to put- the car is
26:31
not that small. I know she's frazzled but yeah
26:34
the guitar case also is not that big. There's
26:36
not that much stuff in her car. Just do the
26:38
back seat. She tries to put it through the driver's
26:41
side first, and then she tries to put it in the
26:43
back seat, but she like barely tries and then
26:46
she goes and opens her trunk which looks like
26:48
the smallest place of all to put it. Apparently
26:50
that fits. Apparently it fits there. It's like
26:52
she's trying to do like a square peg in a round
26:54
hole like the entire time. Just a mess. But yeah,
26:57
literally everyone crawls out. Every family member
27:00
crawls out of the woodwork to watch her do this
27:04
and be like, hey, what you doing? What you doing
27:06
with the guitar case? It's kind of late to donate
27:08
it. Yeah. Goodwill's not open. Bay's like, let
27:10
me make art with it. But Bay knows something
27:13
suspicious with that. Oh, for sure. And Regina
27:15
is panicking, panicking, running. And she does
27:19
end up driving to some dumpster to dump the guitar
27:22
case, but then she can't. There's too many memories.
27:25
Yeah. Yikes. That was a waste of a trip. And
27:28
you also just brought so much attention to yourself.
27:30
I know. Now everyone's going to be like... Why'd
27:33
you do that? What's the deal with the guitar
27:34
case? And Bay, in fact, texts Daphne, what's
27:38
the deal with the guitar case? And Daphne ignores
27:40
her while her and Emmett are outside her old
27:43
house in East Riverside. Which I guess is vacant?
27:45
They never rented it out. She's spiraling about
27:48
how she misses her old life. And Emmett's like,
27:51
but now you have a pool. Daphne and that damn
27:54
pool. Goddamn pool again. Yeah. And then she
27:57
reveals to Emmett that Regina knew. And the first
28:00
thing he says is you need to tell Bay and she's
28:03
like I don't give a shit about Bay right now.
28:05
You need to support me. Yeah it's- tough choice
28:08
Emmett to be like, and does Bay know? Like maybe
28:12
we wait, maybe ask like two or three follow -up
28:15
questions first before doing that. So, yeah,
28:18
that obviously sends Daphne into a spiral. And
28:21
then she gets that text with the flip phone with
28:23
the iPhone interface. And it says, what was in
28:25
the guitar case? And she's like, I'm going to
28:28
ignore this because now I'm clocking that something's
28:31
going on with Bay and Emmett even more and I'm
28:32
mad about it. And she signs when they're talking
28:37
and Emmett's like, well, you need to tell Bay.
28:39
Daphne signs like, I need your support. Yes. But
28:43
the captions say I need you on my side right
28:45
now. Yes I did notice that. Which was interesting
28:48
to me like the captions or the script clearly
28:50
wants it to be more of like a me versus Bay thing.
28:54
With the way it was interpreted. But she just signs
28:57
like I just need your support which is not as
28:59
opposing. Yeah. I did notice that too, I didn't
29:02
write that down but I'm glad you caught that.
29:04
I just thought it was a little huh. I wrote another
29:07
one later of like a mismatch between the sign
29:09
and the captions which I'll get to. Anyway, they
29:12
go back to Emmett's and she decides to crash
29:15
at Emmett's house. She crashes at Emmett's house
29:17
and we know she slept there because they have
29:19
Daphne on the couch with all of her hair, like
29:23
pushed over her face. Yes. Like she's been rolling
29:27
in her sleep, I guess. It was an odd choice to
29:31
me. I can't sleep like that. No. My hair is always
29:34
up. Yeah, I need my hair not on my face at all.
29:38
Did you, did you notice the shirt she's wearing?
29:40
No. She's wearing a shirt that says Pah, like P
29:44
A H. Yeah. Which is ASL slang that means like
29:47
finally, success, eureka. So I was like, did she-
29:51
she didn't wear that shirt before. Did she borrow Emmett's
29:54
shirt? Oh my god. Or did she just happen to have
29:57
a t -shirt on her? Not clear. Could be. Or maybe
30:00
it's Melody's. Probably Melody's. Because it did
30:02
look like a woman's cut. Yeah, or I don't know
30:05
Daphne might have clothes at Emmett's place. I
30:08
don't know how, I don't know if they're friends
30:10
like that. But I did think it was a missed opportunity
30:13
on the showrunners to not create like a gag moment
30:17
where we see Daphne waking up in Emmett's bed.
30:20
And then we see the reveal that like she slept
30:23
there but he slept on the couch kind of thing.
30:26
And I felt it was sort of not on brand for Emmett
30:30
to let her take the couch. Like I feel like he'd
30:34
be like- he would offer the bed. I feel like he
30:35
would yeah. Yeah. But they won't explain that. Maybe
30:38
he's kind of like, Bay is not gonna like it if
30:41
Daphne sleeps in my bed. I don't know. That could
30:44
also be true. Maybe he's thinking more about
30:45
what Bay would want. But he wakes Daphne up
30:48
so sweetly. I know. He does a little gentle tap
30:50
on the arm, which is the correct way to wake
30:52
up a deaf person. Yeah, but it's also just like
30:54
really cute. It is. This is the part where I
30:58
noticed a mismatch between the captions and the
31:01
signing because he's like, are you going to
31:03
go back and talk to your mom? And Daphne signs,
31:07
I guess we'll discuss it later. But the captions
31:09
say, I guess I'll find out the rest tonight.
31:12
I guess I'll find out the rest tonight instead
31:14
of, like, we'll discuss it later. I don't know.
31:16
I just thought it was, like, an interesting,
31:18
like, finding out versus talking about it. I'm
31:21
really curious, yeah, to the process that they
31:26
used. If it was, if the script was, I guess I'll
31:30
find out tonight. And then that's how, I mean,
31:32
I don't think Katie Leclerc was doing her own
31:34
interpretations. I think the sign language interpreter
31:37
was helping. That translation? Yeah. One of the
31:41
coaches. But so yeah I guess I wonder. I really
31:44
want to know, like how that comes about. I don't
31:48
know. Yeah. And then she finds printed out photos
31:51
of Bay and Emmett like on the coffee table. Specifically
31:54
from Bay and Emmett's day in the junkyard and
31:57
she's not happy about it. Yeah. What were those
31:59
doing out? They were just like random. On the coffee
32:02
table? Put them in your room. Swap some Daphne
32:04
pics out. This is like the last thing she wants
32:06
to see. I get it. So she's- she's crashing out a
32:10
little. Also just ties into like, big theme this
32:13
episode is photos of Bay and Daphne. Yeah. Like
32:16
physical printed out photos of Bay and Daphne.
32:18
Physical media is a big one out here. It's time
32:21
to get ready for the deposition. Yeah. Dress
32:23
up time. There's so rarely moments, like sweet
32:27
tender mother-daughter moments between Bay and
32:29
Kathryn. Yeah Kathryn's trying on blazers
32:32
and then they talk a little bit about why they're
32:34
doing the deposition. Toby is digging through
32:37
one of the many garages looking for more pictures
32:40
of his dad. He's got nothing else going on. Well,
32:42
he's suspended. Oh, that's right. He's suspended.
32:45
So he's like killing time. So he shows the ad
32:48
to Regina. Remember, he's showing it to everyone.
32:50
And there's a fun metaphor from Regina because
32:54
she says, some things are better left in the
32:56
past and you're better off not digging around.
32:59
Well, Regina, it's too late. I know. We already
33:01
dug. And then she makes one more passive aggressive
33:04
dig at John and Kathryn before they leave for
33:06
the deposition. She says, break a leg. And when
33:09
you do, you can sue the hospital again. What
33:11
the fuck is your problem? Yeah. This affected
33:13
you too. All eyes are on you right now. This
33:16
is not the time to be... A dick. Be a dick. Yeah.
33:20
And then we're at the deposition. Deposition
33:22
time. And John and Kathryn are actually doing
33:25
a really good job at first. They are. They're
33:27
remaining very calm, giving good answers. But
33:30
then. Duh duh. The opposition gives them a DNA test to
33:34
read. And then he's like, look at the date, 98.
33:37
So two years after the girls were born. Obviously,
33:41
they flip out. So they're rightfully furious
33:44
and very confused and hurt. So they're driving
33:47
home and exterior driveway. Everyone is converging
33:51
in and ambushing Regina. She's cornered. She's
33:55
backed into a corner. It's time to confess. There's
33:58
a big family meeting where Regina's basically
34:01
on trial. But Toby. Yeah notably Toby is missing.
34:05
He's not in this room. They fill him in off-screen,
34:08
I guess. But she's like, she's very flustered, she
34:12
said Angelo accused me of having an affair and
34:15
then Daphne's- she brings up how traumatic the
34:18
meningitis was. Right. That she was in the ICU
34:21
for eight days and then while she was in the
34:24
ICU, Angelo took a swab of her DNA and had it
34:28
tested against his and then was like, I'm leaving.
34:32
And he says, this proves that Daphne is not
34:34
related to me. So therefore you cheated. And Regina
34:37
said, no way. Yeah. She has Daphne tested again.
34:40
And I assume this is where the DNA test that
34:43
Kathryn and John read at the deposition comes
34:45
from. But yeah, the results come back the same
34:48
that the two aren't related. She was like, she
34:50
was mine at that point. It's been three years.
34:52
And I think she was scared. She says she was
34:55
scared because she was a single parent and an
34:58
alcoholic. Right. Unemployed. Yeah, unemployed.
35:01
She'd already had one or multiple DUIs at this
35:05
point. And she was like, I was going to lose
35:06
custody of my baby. And she was probably right. Absolutely.
35:09
Because the Kennishes have already tried once
35:12
to petition for full custody. I mean, they never
35:14
took it to court, but they were talking amongst
35:16
themselves about doing it when the girls are
35:18
16 or almost 16. So, definitely when she was three,
35:23
they totally would have done that. I have no
35:26
doubt that they would have done that. So I do
35:28
see where Regina's coming from there. Like she
35:31
was in a no-win situation. Exactly. I do like
35:34
that even though Daphne is obviously very upset,
35:37
she does yell at John when he keeps interrupting
35:41
Regina. And that was nice. But yeah, and then
35:44
she's like, after I found out, I got my life
35:46
together. I got sober. This doesn't really track
35:49
with the story she told Toby. In the poker episode.
35:52
What did she tell Toby? She said it took her like-
35:55
Oh like being accountable to other people? Of
35:57
time yeah a bunch of times and like it only happened
36:01
once CPS threatened to take Daphne away from
36:03
her and I'm like how long after the meningitis
36:06
situation did CPS threaten to take her away? But
36:10
whatever, she's giving a summarized sort of, it's
36:12
a TLDR version. Oh my god, we know nothing from
36:16
the ages between 3 and 8. It drives me crazy.
36:19
When did CPS? We don't know. We have no idea.
36:21
Why wasn't CPS like, hey, your deaf child doesn't
36:24
have access to any language? I don't know. That's
36:27
not CPS's problem. That's- CPS is more like abuse
36:30
and neglect. I guess that is. That's abuse and
36:32
neglect. Right? Like, hey, here's a pamphlet.
36:35
Yeah, here's a pamphlet. Some access to educational
36:38
materials. How about we help you take a class?
36:41
Yeah. But Bay, rightfully, at this point is like,
36:44
You kept Daphne, great, but what about me? You
36:47
robbed me of the experience of getting to know
36:49
my bio parents. And Regina's like, well, I hired
36:52
a private investigator to tail you. It's okay,
36:54
I followed you all the time. Yeah. Not helpful.
36:56
I was always watching. Creepy. That's also terrifying
37:00
to know that you were being watched all through
37:03
your childhood. For sure. Terrifying. She storms
37:06
off and Kathryn follows. Kathryn is being
37:10
more empathetic, she's giving her tissues. I think
37:12
also she's doing like the mother bear thing of
37:14
like I think I get it. That makes sense as the
37:17
other mother in the situation, like, that Kathryn
37:20
would understand the most but yeah John is fuming
37:24
and is basically like, we're going to get custody.
37:27
He goes and tells Kathryn he wants custody.
37:29
Bay runs off to Emmett and she's sobbing and
37:33
he's saying, you've got to slow down. Yeah, he's
37:36
not understanding any of this. She's word vomiting.
37:39
And she's like, this can't work. And then he
37:41
grabs her arm and pulls her back and turns out
37:43
it can work because sobbing into someone's shoulder
37:46
is kind of... It's universal. It's universal.
37:48
Aww. Yeah, and then here come the shoes on the
37:52
bed. Purple Converse on the bed, tapping her
37:54
feet, angrily listening to music. Time for simcom
37:57
again. Regina comes in and she says, I made a
38:00
choice that I thought was best for everyone.
38:02
And that is tough because throughout this whole
38:05
thing, she does say like, I did what I thought
38:07
was best, but it's kind of like she made the
38:09
choice for everyone. But is it really a choice
38:12
if no one else had a say in it? She becomes really
38:15
defensive with Daphne. In a way that she doesn't
38:19
with anyone else who's like upset about this.
38:21
Yeah and she does say that here. She's like I
38:25
raised you and I did a good job, so you shouldn't
38:28
be mad at me. If you had grown up here it would
38:30
have been all different. And she, I think she implies
38:32
that like you wouldn't have learned sign. You
38:34
would not have been- Okay well with you she didn't
38:37
get to learn sign until she was eight you asshole
38:39
so like I don't know. I genuinely I don't know.
38:43
Right. And neither does Daphne. Daphne says I- We'll
38:46
never know now. Right. Because you robbed me
38:49
of that experience. Regina just goes about it
38:51
all wrong. I don't know why. She basically starts
38:54
yelling at Daphne like any of this is Daphne's
38:56
fault. She should be begging for Daphne's forgiveness
38:59
and understanding. And also she should be okay
39:02
with not getting those things because that's
39:05
a 15 year old. Also, she just found out five
39:08
minutes ago. Yeah. Give her a second. Give her
39:10
some space. Give her some time. Give her some
39:11
perspective. And which they do. John is like,
39:14
you gotta leave. And Daphne is also like, I need
39:18
some space from you. Yeah. How do you feel about
39:20
this? Like, I'm kind of, I don't think that John
39:23
should be like, we're going to get custody. But
39:25
I think it's totally in his rights to be like,
39:28
I do not want you on my property right now. I
39:30
think that's fair to need some space from someone
39:32
you're angry with. Yeah. So you don't do anything
39:35
stupid or say anything stupid. Gives you time
39:37
to think. Yeah. Yeah. Take a walk. Or just like as
39:41
a parent I don't want you near the kids for a
39:44
while because your actions upset them so much.
39:46
Yeah it's tough because Daphne is legally not
39:49
their child so they- John wants to change that.
39:52
Yeah John wants to change that but also I think
39:54
Daphne is old enough now to say when she wants
39:57
space. Another thing that made me mad and I wanted
40:00
to know your opinion is, she turns Daphne's music
40:04
off. That was annoying. And like has her take
40:06
the headphones off. And it's like, girl, what?
40:08
So you can simcom? Maybe just fucking sign. I
40:11
guess the music is probably distracting and it
40:14
was really loud for Daphne. Whatever. But yeah,
40:17
I'd be furious. That's like part of the beauty
40:19
of sign language. If my partner or my parents
40:22
took the headphones off my head. I would lose
40:24
it. I would lose it. I'm already mad. Right.
40:27
And she's already so pissed. And Regina comes
40:29
in like on this high horse. Yeah. So high and
40:32
mighty about the way that she raised Daphne.
40:35
I know. She's just forgotten about those five
40:38
fucking years, I guess. I don't know. I'm mad
40:40
about those five years. I think we're always
40:41
going to be mad about them. Yeah. And I'm going
40:43
to hold them against Regina forever. No, we should
40:46
continue talking about. Yeah. The dark years.
40:49
It's worse than her not telling anyone about
40:52
the switch, I think. Yes. Yeah. So Daphne says,
40:55
get out. Yeah. She says, get out. Where is Adriana?
40:58
Who's to say? Where is she? When Daphne's like,
41:01
please leave. I'm like, well, it's fine because
41:03
there's still an adult there. No, there isn't.
41:05
Where is she? Where the hell is she? So yeah,
41:08
she's like, please leave. Does she know? She
41:11
doesn't know either, right? I think that's Daphne's
41:13
first question. Like, did grandma know? Because
41:15
for Daphne, she's like, oh my God, my mom's been
41:18
lying to me my entire life. And she's like, oh,
41:20
it's just my mom. It's just my mom, not my mom
41:22
and my grandma, which I think would make me feel
41:24
better. Yeah. And then Regina is leaving and
41:28
Toby comes out and comforts her. Toby and Regina's
41:32
relationship is like very random to me. It's
41:34
only because of that poker episode that they
41:37
have somewhat of a decent relationship. And it's
41:39
just like, I don't know what happened. I heard
41:41
some screaming and whatever. But whatever you
41:43
did, I'm sure it'll be fine. Toby, maybe don't
41:45
speak so soon. Yeah. Toby, you know nothing.
41:49
I would walk right to Bay and maybe comfort my
41:51
sister and be like, what's going on? That would
41:53
have been a good idea. Yeah. And then is that
41:55
the end of the episode? Yeah. Regina drives away.
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She goes to Melody, and Daphne looks out the window.
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That's the end of the episode. Good episode.
42:04
This was a great episode too. Drama filled. I
42:07
can't believe how much shoes on the bed we get.
42:09
Because then Emmett and Bay, when they're in
42:12
his room, they're also their feet are up, but
42:15
their- Shoes are also on in the house, and on the
42:18
bed. Do we think it's like a thing about not
42:21
showing actors' feet? I think it's just a thing
42:23
like you're on set and you don't really walk around
42:26
with barefoot or just socks on. Yeah, but like
42:30
there's so much attention to detail to so many
42:33
things on set. And I've worn- I used to be a background
42:36
actor for reference. I've worn so much like uncomfortable
42:39
wardrobe that did not make sense for the setting
42:42
we were in because that's what the scene called
42:44
for. So it doesn't feel like they'd be like,
42:47
feel free to leave your shoes on, guys. Interesting.
42:50
I don't know. I think this is such a common thing
42:52
in TV shows and movies. Is it common in real
42:55
life? Do you think it's common in real life and
42:58
we just aren't seeing these people? My parents
43:00
are shoes in the house people. We're not shoes
43:02
on the bed, God forbid, but they are shoes in
43:05
the house people. I personally am not. Like their
43:07
outside shoes? Yeah. Like everywhere or just
43:10
downstairs? Everywhere. That's crazy because
43:13
when I was at your house, I was taking off my
43:15
shoes. That's because I take off my shoes. Yeah.
43:18
That's I just think like my default. Yeah. Unless
43:21
someone tells me I'm going to take off my shoes.
43:23
The second I got to college, I was like shoes
43:25
off. But when you were growing up, were you shoes
43:28
off or were you shoes on? I was always shoes
43:30
on. Always. So like when you would wake up in
43:34
the morning and get dressed? The shoes were downstairs.
43:37
Okay. I usually took them off to go in, but like
43:39
if I was like stomping around, I could wear them.
43:43
I wasn't being scolded. That's so funny. But
43:46
like they're not a shoes on the couch. You have
43:47
like a beautiful white couch. Yeah, but no, we
43:51
don't do shoes on the couch. So then it's feet
43:53
on the floor if your shoes are on. Yeah. It's
43:57
just not something that's been a problem since
43:59
I was like seven. Yeah, it really horrifies me
44:02
in TV shows. It's such a, yeah, it's such a pet
44:06
peeve. And, like, shoes on the coffee table.
44:09
Gross. Yeah, gross. A won't let me put my feet
44:12
on the coffee table at all, even with socks on.
44:14
I think that a coffee table is, like, half of
44:17
its purpose is just for you to put your feet
44:20
on. A won't let me. Can you put, like, a pillow
44:23
on the coffee table and then put your feet on
44:25
that? I think it's... The problem is we do have
44:28
a cat and she sheds and the hair sticks to her
44:31
feet and then I put my feet on the table and
44:33
then I think she's like, no. Yeah, but like,
44:36
can't Piper get on that table? Yeah, she can
44:38
get everywhere. Wait, so Piper's allowed to put
44:40
her feet on the coffee table, but you're not?
44:43
You're right. I'm fighting with A tonight.