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EP 1 | La morgue de Paris (The Paris Morgue) · The Learn French With Alexa Podcast

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  Oh my gosh. So we're showing the picture of
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  exactly... That's actually really horrible.
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  So sorry. Bonjour et bienvenue à notre
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  podcast, the Learn French with Alexa podcast.
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  Now, today I am joined with two extraordinary people.
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  So you can introduce yourself. My name is Satie, student of
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  Alexa. Okay.
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  And my name is Liam, and I work here at Learn French with Alexa.
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  Yes, and I thought it would be funny to do a new series where
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  people come to my podcast, and they do not know what we are
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  going to talk about. Yep.
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  Yeah. I have no idea what's- We are
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  completely unaware- Yeah ... as to the topic of this podcast.
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  So, as you know, I'm a French teacher, so there will be a tint
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  of teaching French. However, there will be a tint of
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  discussions as well, based on whatever I'm going to read to
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  you. So this is the way it's going to
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  go, and if you're listening to me, please concentrate on what's
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  going to be said, and especially the questions I'm going to ask
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  you based on this very topic. Okay?
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  I'm going to read you the text once and ask you a couple of
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  questions, which I would like you to try to answer.
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  I will read it again, so don't worry, and then I will quiz you
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  on that specific topic that we are about to listen to.
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  Is it going to be a difficult topic?
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  No. Well, it depends how difficult
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  in terms of traumatising. It could be quite traumatising.
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  Traumatising? Yes.
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  Okay. We weren't promised that.
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  Yeah. I didn't sign up for that.
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  It's not. But it's very interesting.
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  So this series is all about fun facts, a bit like Horrible
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  History of France. Oh.
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  Yeah. Okay.
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  And I think you are going to learn a lot.
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  I know that I'm learning a lot with my content creators who are
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  helping me write the subjects. If you don't know Horrible
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  Histories in the UK, it's extraordinary.
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  I do invite you to check it out because- Amazing, yeah ... it's
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  really cool. Yeah.
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  One of my favourite shows growing up.
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  Yeah, I grew up watching it too. Yeah.
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  Well, you would have. It's your generation, guys.
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  Yeah. Actually, not mine, but
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  certainly my children's generation.
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  Yeah. Anyways, are we ready?
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  I'm not going to tell you what it's about.
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  I'm going to read the text and ask you one question, okay?
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  We will jump, by the way, between English and French.
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  You can speak in French if you want to.
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  D'accord. Vous parlez un peu français ?
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  Oui. Un peu.
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  Un peu. And this is the reason why I've
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  chosen Satie and Liam into my podcast today.
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  Okay, here we go. Au 19e siècle, la morgue de
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  Paris, qui se trouvait à l'époque sur l'île de la Cité,
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  près de la cathédrale Notre-Dame, était presque
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  considérée comme une attraction touristique.
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  En effet, le lieu était ouvert au public dans le but
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  d'identifier les corps inconnus retrouvés dans la rue ou dans la
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  Seine. Les employés exposaient donc les
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  cadavres derrière une grande vitre, et des milliers de
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  personnes de tout âge, même les enfants, venaient visiter cette
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  morgue comme on visite un musée. En 1907, la ville a décidé de
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  fermer cet endroit à cause des critiques, mais aussi des
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  problèmes d'hygiène qu'il pouvait provoquer.
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  Okay. Wow.
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  So how much of it did you understand, guys?
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  La plupart. Oui, la plupart du texte, tu as
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  compris ? Oui.
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  Oui. Liam?
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  Yeah, 80, 90%. 80, 90%. Yeah.
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  By the way, this is of B1 level, in case you're wondering what
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  level this is. And as you know, we've got other
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  levels: A1, A2, B1, B2, C1, C2, C2 being able to speak fluently,
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  know all idioms, understand even the slang or le verlan in
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  French. Here's the first question.
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  Quelle était l'attraction touristique au 19e siècle sur
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  l'île de la Cité ? Quelle était l'attraction
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  touristique au 19e siècle sur l'île de la Cité ?
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  I can read the text again. That's my first question.
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  I will read it anyway at some point.
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  La morgue de Paris. La morgue de Paris.
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  So this is Paris morgue. It was that or something like
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  that. C'est ça.
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  La morgue de Paris était l'attraction touristique au 19e
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  siècle sur l'île de la Cité. Par exemple, tu avais la Tour
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  Eiffel. The Eiffel Tower was one.
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  As you know, that was 1889, so much later on than la morgue de
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  Paris, which started back in the early 1800s.
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  But la morgue de Paris was one of the attractions, tourist
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  attractions. Big, it was very big.
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  And I'm going to give you some facts on it at some point.
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  Deuxième question : en quelle année a cessé l'attraction
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  touristique de Paris, c'est-à-dire la morgue de Paris
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  ? En quelle année ça a été arrêté
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  ? En quelle année on a dit : "Hmm,
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  peut-être qu'on devrait fermer cette attraction touristique."
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  I didn't hear that. I didn't hear the year.
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  I think it was 1906. Okay, 1906.
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  Out of my memory. Did you hear that?
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  I'm going to read it one more time.
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  Okay? But it was ...
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  I'm pretty close, no? Je vais tout lire.
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  All right. Okay, so here we go.
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  Au 19e siècle, la morgue de Paris, qui se trouvait à
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  l'époque sur l'île de la Cité, près de la cathédrale
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  Notre-Dame, était presque considérée comme une attraction
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  touristique. En effet, le lieu était ouvert
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  au public dans le but d'identifier les corps inconnus
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  retrouvés dans les rues ou dans la Seine.
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  Les employés exposaient donc les cadavres derrière une grande
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  vitre et des milliers de personnes de tous âges, même les
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  enfants, venaient visiter cette morgue comme on visite un musée.
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  En 1907, la ville a décidé de fermer cet endroit à cause de
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  critiques, mais aussi des problèmes d'hygiène qu'il
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  pouvait provoquer. Deuxième question : en quelle
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  année ça s'est arrêté ? 1907. 1907.
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  Just before the First World War, then. 1907. 1914.
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  Yeah. Not far off.
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  Yeah, we are not far off. The Titanic, in 1911. 1912.
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  1912. Oui, je pense.
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  En avril 1912, je crois. We can check this one out.
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  So we're saying the Eiffel Tower had already opened by this
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  point, and it was still open as an attraction.
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  Yes. That is crazy.
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  They overlapped. The Morgue of Paris overlapped
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  with the Eiffel Tower attraction, as well as Le
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  Louvre, which was already open at that time.
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  But we'll talk about it in a minute.
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  Yes? No, that's not the craziest
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  thing, right? To have a morgue, because the
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  idea was for people to identify the cadavers, right?
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  That's exactly what it is. In the text, we do say: "Il
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  était ouvert au public dans le but d'identifier les corps
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  inconnus". Inconnus, unknown.
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  "Retrouvés dans la rue ou dans la Seine".
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  So where were these bodies recovered?
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  The streets and the river. Exactly.
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  The River Seine. La Seine.
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  So sad. Hence why the morgue was built
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  so close to the Seine River, because it was easier to get
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  them out and transport them, and then have them behind a window,
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  because that's exactly what it looked like.
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  La Morgue de Paris was an attraction touristique.
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  People queued to see the cadavers, which were exposed,
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  exhibited behind a very big window.
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  So you had the bodies on their bed like that.
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  Of course, if you're listening, you can't see what I'm doing.
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  But you can imagine the people passing by the window, a bit
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  like in a zoo, I'm imagining. That is actually horrible.
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  Yeah. Yes, that's it.
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  They didn't go to identify the bodies.
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  They went to look. They went to be nosy.
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  Yeah. At the time, I'm going to give
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  you some facts here. I want to say, on average, per
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  week, 40,000 people a day came sometimes to see the Morgue de
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  Paris. And at one point, you had
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  150,000 people going to see the body of a little girl.
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  Blimey. Talking about voyeurism and
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  wanting to see cadaver and getting scared.
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  The more gruesome the death, the more people there were.
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  I'm so glad I wasn't born back then.
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  Am I traumatising you? If you are- No I did say at the
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  beginning, watch out, it can be a little bit...
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  Sorry about that. You didn't know what we were
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  going to talk about. Yeah, things were crazy back
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  then. That's the idea.
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  The idea is that often the bodies, we didn't know who they
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  were. And hoping that by putting the
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  people behind the window, the dead bodies behind the window,
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  people would actually be able to recognise them.
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  I guess that was the only way you could do it, really.
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  They could have done it... In the papers or something, I
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  don't know. Instead of putting them behind a
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  window, they could have done it a bit more discreetly, saying:
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  "Come in and see ...come in and see if you recognise this
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  person. Am you missing someone?".
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  Yeah, because those 40,000 people a day, they probably
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  weren't all looking for... But how do you know?
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  What if they said they were and they just wanted to...
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  Yeah, I think it was just morbid curiosity at that point.
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  I think so, too. Would you have gone in the time?
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  Probably, I would have had the mindset that that was a normal
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  thing to do then. Yeah.
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  Exactly. Yeah.
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  Remember that executions were live to anybody to see back
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  then. I'm not an historian, but I can
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  imagine it's always been a thing.
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  Yeah. But then again, nowadays, we're
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  so sensitised to death and we don't want to approach the
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  subject, we don't want to think about it, but back then, it's
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  just part of life, like such an in your face part of life.
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  Yeah. Maybe that was better, but I
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  don't know. Maybe not.
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  Are we not more desensitised to it, though, because we don't
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  have public executions anymore or anything like that.
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  It used to be a town event, this thing...
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  It was ...people would go and watch.
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  Yeah. It's weird to think about it
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  today. Yeah.
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  Anyway, just to give you a visual, because of course, this
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  is a podcast, the beds were slightly inclined, and they had
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  water dripping under their heads, because of decomposition,
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  in order to keep the cadaver as fresh as possible.
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  And above the corpse, you had their clothes.
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  So you could identify the person by maybe the clothes that they
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  were wearing. I don't think we did that in
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  England. No, it was Such a French thing
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  ... it was actually such a French thing that people from
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  all over Europe knew of this attraction.
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  Wow ... And used to come to see this
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  attraction. So, I know, guys, you're
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  listening to me, but I'm going to show a picture to Satie and
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  Liam. There you go, so.
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  Oh my gosh. So we- Wow ... we're showing the
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  picture of exactly... That's very weird ... the
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  window. It's a big window as well.
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  It's a big window as well, yes. That's actually really horrible.
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  So sorry. I think there's a coffee shop
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  there now. How times have changed.
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  And l'Île de la Cité, by the way, is where Notre Dame is.
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  Mm. It's an island.
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  If you don't know Paris, Satie knows Paris quite well, and so
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  does Liam actually. Yeah, we got the world's biggest
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  croissant from Île de la Cité. Yeah, in March.
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  The picture. In March.
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  Uh. Yeah, that's me...
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  Yes ... holding a pain au chocolat.
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  Oh, pain au chocolat. That's not the world's biggest
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  croissant. Uh.
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  World's biggest pain au chocolat.
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  Well, that I've ever held. Ah, you've ever held.
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  So if you're not familiar with what I do, uh, yeah.
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  We'll put a picture up on screen- We, yeah ... for anyone
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  watching on Spotify or YouTube. Of me holding a big pain au
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  chocolat, and Liam, my producer, and Agnès went to Paris just to
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  film that. Yeah.
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  Carrying around a large pain au chocolat all day.
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  Yeah, no, to do some collaboration with famous
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  influencers as well. Yeah.
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  So, that was... Anyway, I'm going to ask you a
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  few questions. Are you ready?
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  Yes. Ready.
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  In English, I'm going to do that.
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  If the corpse was too far advanced in decomposition, what
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  did the morgue do? What did the workers at the
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  morgue do? Donc, en fait, si le cadavre
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  était trop décomposé, qu'est-ce que [les employés] faisaient ?
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  Well, la chose avec l'eau, que tu as décrit, ou non ?
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  Mais si c'était trop [décomposé] ?
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  Oh. If it was far gone- Oh, je veux
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  dire quelque chose comme like an early version of what they do
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  nowadays, like- Mm ... I don't know, taking out all the
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  stuff inside and... Do you know what I mean?
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  Embalming. Oh.
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  Ah. Embalming.
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  Embalming. Ah.
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  Uh, not quite. Okay.
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  Not quite. Did they just show the clothes?
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  Or maybe did- Uh ... did a drawing?
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  No. Okay.
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  Think Madame Tussauds. Oh.
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  Oh. Yeah, so like embalming.
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  Like stuffing. Uh, no.
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  Wax? What do you think Madame
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  Tussauds is? Wax.
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  Well, no, I know it's wax, but...
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  Yes, but they don't stuff- No. Okay, so- Wait, Madame Tussauds,
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  isn't that real people? They replaced the face with a
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  wax replica. Oh.
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  Ah. That's what they did.
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  Just the face? Yes.
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  Oh. They could've done that with all
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  of the people rather than putting them just on display
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  like that. Well, yes.
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  I don't think it was a thing. If you're enjoying learning
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  Anyway, here is a vrai ou faux question.
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  Vrai. Vrai ou faux.
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  No, but you haven't heard the question yet.
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  Oh. Alors, vrai ou faux?
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  À la fin du 19e siècle, la morgue attirait plus de
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  visiteurs que Le Louvre, et quatre fois plus que la Tour
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  Eiffel, pourtant toute nouvelle à cette époque.
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  Donc, à la fin du 19e siècle, at the end of the 19th century, La
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  Morgue, the mortuary, the morgue, attracted more visitors
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  than The Louvre, and four times more than the Eiffel Tower.
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  Est-ce que c'est vrai ou faux ? I feel like it is going to be
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  vrai, but the Eiffel Tower was quite new then, so I'm imagining
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  maybe the word hadn't got out about it yet.
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  It was huge. I know it was created for the
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  World's Fair in, I can't remember the year. 1889. 1889.
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  So vrai ou faux? I would just say vrai.
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  Vrai. Yeah.
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  Mm. It is vrai, absolutely.
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  So vrai, la morgue attirait plus de visiteurs que Le Louvre, more
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  than The Louvre. I didn't realise The Louvre was
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  that old. It is that old.
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  Et quatre fois plus que la Tour Eiffel, and four times more
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  people were seeing the dead bodies than the Eiffel Tower.
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  And like you say, it was fairly new...
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  Mm ... at the time. Now, you can't even get into the
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  Eiffel Tower... Yeah ... without queuing for
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  hours. It was only meant to be
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  temporary as well, wasn't it? Well, yeah.
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  It was. Yeah.
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  Yes. And then...
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  Yeah ... they decided to leave it up.
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  Yeah. Where was it going to go?
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  It's huge. Well, they assembled it, and
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  then they were going to disassemble it.
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  Yeah. What's the point?
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  Because it was for the World's Fair.
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  Oh, it was going to go around the world?
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  Maybe, I don't know. Mm.
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  I don't know. I don't know.
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  Because it was made by America, no?
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  Was that made by America? Uh, non, pas du tout.
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  C'était... I'm thinking the Statue of
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  Liberty... You're thinking of the... ...
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  which was made by France ... and given to America.
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  And given to America. Gustave Eiffel, c'était un
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  ingénieur qui a construit l'intérieur- Oh, he named it
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  after himself? Oui.
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  Gustave Eiffel. Typical man.
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  Typical man. C'est un ingénieur qui a aussi
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  dessiné la structure de... Uh, the Statue of Liberty ... la
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  Statue de la Liberté. Voilà, so yeah.
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  Oh, he did both of them. I'm going like that, by the way,
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  I'm holding the flame ... you can't see, I'm holding the flame
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  at the minute. Anyway, Voici la dernière
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  question que j'ai pour vous. I'm going to give you three
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  choices. So, what is the French word
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  coined to represent a fresh news item, like more to do with
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  murders and accidents? Mm.
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  So, in the news, you would have these, like an easy read thing,
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  things you want to read, like you would find in...
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  You watch a lot of murder things, whatever it's called.
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  True crime. True crime- True crime ... and
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  things like that. So would we call that, if we
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  were to write an article on a newspaper journal, would we call
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  that a "fait divers", "fait accompli", ou "fait peur"?
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  I feel like I've heard fait accompli before.
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  I feel like I've heard it too. I think I've heard all three.
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  Yeah. Well, fait divers is part of
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  winter, right? Ah, no, you don't spell it like
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  that. Fait, F-A-I-T, and then divers,
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  as in divers. D-I-V-E-R-S.
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  Wow. Fait divers.
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  I thought you meant "de hiver". Yeah.
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  Yeah. All right.
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  Can you say it again, please? Alors, fait divers, fait
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  accompli, ou fait peur ? I feel like it's B.
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  I think you want us to say fait peur but it's not fait peur.
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  Yeah, that's too obvious. It's too obvious.
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  Fait peur means to... Make scared ... scare.
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  Make scared, yeah. Yeah, I'll go with A, option A
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  then. Okay.
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  Just then we're splitting our answers up.
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  Just to have a little bit of competition.
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  I'll go with B, yeah. Alors, so the answer is A.
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  Oh, yes. Fait divers.
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  So un fait divers, c'est un événement de la vie quotidienne
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  qui ne relève ni de la politique ni de l'économie.
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  So it's not about politics, it's not about economy.
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  En fait, c'est une rubrique dans le journal qui regroupe des
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  petits récits, so small talk or small article, d'accidents, de
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  crimes, de vols, ou d'événements insolites.
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  What's d'événements insolites? "Insolite" means unusual events.
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  Yeah. Oh.
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  So this is what we call a fait divers.
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  What's that got to do with divers?
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  Divers. Oh, divers.
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  It's a faux ami. It is "divers".
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  D-I-V-E-R-S. Right.
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  Not water-based stories. Not of water.
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  Well, the bodies were sometimes found in the water.
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  Divers. What did you think divers ...
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  Ah, as in the dive. That's what you said.
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  No, I... You said divers.
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  So we thought it was winter, then we thought it was...
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  Divers ... divers. But it happened to be divers.
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  I think the word of the episode is: divers.
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  Divers. Okay.
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  Yeah. So we've learned that fait
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  divers is a rubric... Okay ... an article that you
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  would find in the newspaper based on something "insolite".
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  Do you understand the word insolite?
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  Strange happenings. Something insolite.
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  Insolite, how do you spell that? Insolite, I-N-S-O-L-I-T-E.
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  Okay. Insolite, I've never heard that.
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  Insolite. Insolite is something that is
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  unusual. Insolite, unusual, something you
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  would not expect. Strange occurrences.
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  Okay. It's strange.
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  And this is the kind of thing you would want to read.
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  Yeah. A fait divers.
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  It's not political, it's not about the economy.
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  It's something insolite. Yeah.
• 21:45
  C'est un fait insolite. Yeah.
• 21:47
  D'accord ? So that's pretty much it that I
• 21:51
  would like to tell you about La Morgue de Paris.
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  We've learned that it stopped in 1907 for obvious reason.
• 22:00
  Health and safety. At some point, I suppose, people
• 22:05
  must have thought, "Hmm, maybe." Like I say in the text: "Ils ont
• 22:09
  décidé de fermer cet endroit à cause des critiques, mais aussi
• 22:14
  des problèmes d'hygiène qu'il pouvait provoquer."
• 22:18
  "D'hygiène?" Hygiene.
• 22:20
  Ah. So they decided to stop it
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  because of criticism, which is fair enough, but also because of
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  hygiene problems. So it was health and safety.
• 22:30
  Yeah. Very good.
• 22:35
  It's cool. I think I would go.
• 22:38
  But if you think about it, in Paris, you can go to the
• 22:42
  catacombs. Do you know what I mean?
• 22:43
  Yeah. It's not averse to showing
• 22:46
  death. Where...
• 22:46
  One of its most famous attractions now is still a
• 22:48
  graveyard. Do you know what I mean?
• 22:49
  Père Lachaise. True. ... 595 00:22:30.324
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  --> 00:22:34.244 Where people go to see all these famous dead
• 22:51
  bodies, well, not the actual dead bodies, but their
• 22:57
  coffins... Mm ... and their mausoleums.
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  Ash and things. Have you been to the Catacombe
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  de Paris? I've been to the catacombs and
• 23:04
  Père Lachaise, yeah. Yeah.
• 23:06
  So again, for the same reason. Yeah.
• 23:08
  It's morbid curiosity. Fascination of death.
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  Yeah. "La curiosité morbide".
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  Absolutely. I think that was the worst place
• 23:16
  I've ever been, the catacombs. Oh, scary.
• 23:19
  It's real human bones, the walls are built out of.
• 23:23
  Humans. It is horrifying.
• 23:25
  Even if you touch a wall, you're like, "Wow, I'm literally
• 23:29
  putting my hand on five dead people".
• 23:32
  That's mental, yeah. It is crazy.
• 23:34
  Wow, this is becoming really... Wow.
• 23:36
  This series is going to be dark. Yeah.
• 23:40
  Anyway, if you enjoyed this particular episode, and we are
• 23:45
  going to do a few more in that specific series that we are
• 23:49
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  London. If you're in London and you
• 23:58
  speak French, and you're learning French as well, come,
• 24:03
  and we can do some podcasts together.
• 24:07
  Yeah? Hell yeah.
• 24:09
  I'm already here. Yeah.
• 24:09
  Will you come back? Yeah.
• 24:12
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• 24:13
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• 24:45
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