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The Legacy Of Dolores Huerta | Capítulo 290 · Locatora Radio [A Radiophonic Novela]

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Speaker 1: So Supervisor Hilda Solis's office released a statement with regards
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Speaker 1: to the legacy of Dolores Huerta. And in her statement,
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Speaker 1: Supervisor Solis said, Her call, Si Se Puede, became a
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Speaker 1: rallying cry for people fighting for a better future, and
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Speaker 1: I saw firsthand the resolve behind those words. She spent
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Speaker 1: her life reminding us that progress takes persistence, and that
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Speaker 1: lasting change comes when people stand together. Locatora Radio!
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Speaker 2: Hola, hola, Locamores. I'm Viosa.
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Speaker 1: And I'm Mala.
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Speaker 2: We are here in the studio today on a rather
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Speaker 2: somber day that really shifted everything today for Locatora Radio.
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Speaker 2: Because news just broke that Dolores Huerta, co-founder of United
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Speaker 2: Farm Workers, died today, Wednesday, October 28th, at her home
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Speaker 2: in Bakersfield. She was 96 years old.
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Speaker 1: We were on our way to the studio when Diosa
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Speaker 1: texted me, and we had actually been struggling to figure
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Speaker 1: out what we were going to talk about on today's recording,
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Speaker 1: today's episode of Locatora Radio. And we said this changes everything.
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Speaker 1: Emergency episode. Let's let's talk about the life and legacy
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Speaker 1: of Dolores Huerta.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, it's been I think she has been in the
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Speaker 2: in the news, in the spotlight in a very different
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Speaker 2: way this year when she came forward as a survivor
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Speaker 2: of rape. at the hands of Cesar Chavez, her longtime
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Speaker 2: co-organizer and co-founder and a figure in the Chicano and
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Speaker 2: Mexican-American community, especially here in California. And she came forward
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Speaker 2: after the New York Times did an extensive seven-year investigative
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Speaker 2: report and two allegations of abuse of young girls and
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Speaker 2: women by Cesar Chavez. And she came forward as a
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Speaker 2: survivor and that I think that is one of the
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Speaker 2: ways she has been in conversation in a new way,
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Speaker 2: in addition to the decades of legacy and work that
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Speaker 2: she's done for our community.
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Speaker 1: And even as of this year, so she passed away
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Speaker 1: at 96 years old. She was still hitting the pavement
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Speaker 1: and showing up to events and speaking and advocating and
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Speaker 1: and pushing legislation. And she was just at the premiere
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Speaker 1: for American Pachuco, which we covered here on the podcast
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Speaker 1: about the legacy of Luis Valdez, who started El Teatro Campesino. And,
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Speaker 1: you know, so in that film, we learned that she
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Speaker 1: was also part of the birth of Chicano theater and
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Speaker 1: cinema because she provided a stage for Luis Valdez and
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Speaker 1: El Teatro Campesino to take off and to write and
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Speaker 1: to perform. And she was at Vidiot's on the red
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Speaker 1: carpet and conducting interviews. And this was just a few
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Speaker 1: months ago. And then last week, I was at a
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Speaker 1: sneaker gala for the Boyle Heights YMCA. And the YMCA
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Speaker 1: presented Dolores Huerta with and honor to recognize her work
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Speaker 1: and her legacy. And she wasn't there, although she, I think,
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Speaker 1: tends to go to all of her events in person
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Speaker 1: and show face. But one of her daughters, Lupita, was
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Speaker 1: there in person to accept the honor on her behalf.
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Speaker 1: So this is all to say that up until just recently,
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Speaker 1: this woman has been nonstop, has been energetic and present
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Speaker 1: and vocal for decades.
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Speaker 2: Mm-hmm.
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Speaker 1: In defense of human labor and civil rights and the arts.
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Speaker 1: She's done it all.
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Speaker 2: Champion of the arts, yeah. Yeah, I found myself really
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Speaker 2: moved when my friend texted me the breaking news about
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Speaker 2: Dolores Huerta's passing. And I just found myself completely moved
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Speaker 2: that this year she was able to publicly come forward
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Speaker 2: with her story. And it just really made me think
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Speaker 2: of all of the survivors who don't get to come
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Speaker 2: forward and have to die with their secrets and the
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Speaker 2: shame that they're forced to carry. And so I just
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Speaker 2: feel really moved that she was able to really share
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Speaker 2: her truth before she passed. And I hope that there
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Speaker 2: was a lot of peace in that.
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Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah. And something that she said when she did
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Speaker 1: come out and share her survivor story was that she
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Speaker 1: didn't want to come forward decades ago at the height
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Speaker 1: of her organizing. And when the farmworkers movement was really
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Speaker 1: picking up steam and organizing the great boycott and pushing
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Speaker 1: for fair working conditions for farmworkers. And she said that
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Speaker 1: she didn't want to hurt the movement. She didn't want
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Speaker 1: to hurt the labor movement. She didn't want— the movement
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Speaker 1: to be torn down because of the sins of this man,
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Speaker 1: Cesar Chavez, and the violences that she suffered because of him.
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Speaker 1: She was prioritizing the movement work and labor and civil rights.
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Speaker 1: And like you're saying, at 96 years old, a woman—
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Speaker 1: Don't go anywhere, Locamores.
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Speaker 2: We'll be right back.
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Speaker 1: Of her age, I think we would all want a
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Speaker 1: 96 year old woman who's been working nonstop to be
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Speaker 1: able to rest. Right. I don't know if she ever
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Speaker 1: has ever rested. If what we know of her, I mean,
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Speaker 1: it's if from from what we know of her. it
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Speaker 1: seems that she has had no rest. And that this
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Speaker 1: secret of sexual violence that she suffered during her organizing years,
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Speaker 1: she's been carrying it, she had been carrying it for decades.
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Speaker 1: The news that two of her children were the products
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Speaker 1: of sexual encounters with Mr. Chavez, including the rape, baby
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Speaker 1: girls who by her arrangement were raised by others, she
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Speaker 1: said she had not been aware of his abuse of
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Speaker 1: underage girls. So I think this was another piece was
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Speaker 1: we learned, and I think her family also learned, of
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Speaker 1: two other children that Dolores had that were adopted out
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Speaker 1: and raised by other families. And so that's another layer
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Speaker 1: to the secrets that she was carrying, that these two babies,
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Speaker 1: you know, these other siblings to her kids were out there.
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Speaker 1: And what a weight for someone to carry for so
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Speaker 1: many decades. Yeah.
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Speaker 2: I mean, in so many ways, she was like mythical,
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Speaker 2: you know, to the point of like dehumanization, right? To
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Speaker 2: the point of her unable to speak her truth, to rest,
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Speaker 2: because she became this like right, in the community for years.
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Speaker 2: Because not only did she start as a labor organizer,
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Speaker 2: she continued to be a civic leader for decades, right,
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Speaker 2: rallying people to vote behind prominent Democratic candidates like Barack Obama, right?
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Speaker 2: And she, to your point, that she was just always going, right?
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Speaker 2: She continued to work. And she continued to organize, it seems,
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Speaker 2: up until her final days.
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Speaker 1: So Supervisor Hilda Solis's office released a statement with regards
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Speaker 1: to the legacy of Dolores Huerta. And in her statement,
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Speaker 1: Supervisor Solis said, Dolores's influence reached far beyond the labor movement.
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Speaker 1: She inspired generations to organize, speak out, and believe they
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Speaker 1: could change their circumstances. Her call, Si Se Puede, became
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Speaker 1: a rallying cry for people fighting for a better future,
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Speaker 1: and I saw firsthand the resolve behind those words. She
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Speaker 1: spent her life reminding us that progress takes persistence, and
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Speaker 1: that lasting change comes when people stand together.
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Speaker 2: When we were at the Imakin Awards last year, Supervisor
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Speaker 2: Solis said, and the founder of the Imagen Awards, Helen Fernandez,
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Speaker 2: and Danny Trejo walked the red carpet and we got
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Speaker 2: to interview them. And we were asking folks, and we
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Speaker 2: asked Supervisor Solis in particular, if there is a Latino artist,
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Speaker 2: activist who still needs to get their flowers and should
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Speaker 2: have maybe a film made about them, right? Whose story
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Speaker 2: still needs to be told. Supervisor Solis named Dolores Huerta
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Speaker 2: as that figure, as that person who's been championing the
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Speaker 2: community and whose story needed to be told in a
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Speaker 2: very prominent way in the way that at that time
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Speaker 2: Cesar Chavez had been really the figure and the person
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Speaker 2: whose name was on every street building and That was
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Speaker 2: on streets and buildings and foundations named after him.
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Speaker 1: Right.
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Speaker 2: And so she really positioned Dolores Huerta, who was also
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Speaker 2: her friend and I think lifetime lifelong collaborator in so
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Speaker 2: many ways as a champion of the arts. And she
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Speaker 2: was positioning her that way as a as a someone
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Speaker 2: whose story still needed to be told. And I think
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Speaker 2: that we'll still continue to learn more about Dolores Huerta
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Speaker 2: in the coming years.
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Speaker 1: Days, weeks, years. Oh yeah. What was the, there was
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Speaker 1: a film that was made and it really centered Cesar
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Speaker 1: Chavez and the farm workers movement. And Dolores Huerta was
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Speaker 1: played by Rosario Dawson, but she was more of a
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Speaker 1: supporting character. Yes. So I agree that works that really
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Speaker 1: center and celebrate the life of Dolores Huerta need to
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Speaker 1: be made. And hopefully. will get made and are in
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Speaker 1: the works.
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Speaker 2: Yeah. And also they really capture the complexity of who
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Speaker 2: she was, right? Over the years, there have been critiques
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Speaker 2: about her politics, right? About, I think it's also really
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Speaker 2: important that any work or representation or depiction of Dolores
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Speaker 2: Huertas as a person really captures the complexity of who
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Speaker 2: she was, right? And the complexity of politics, right, of
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Speaker 2: our perspectives, of our values, because she, I think, had
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Speaker 2: been critiqued over the years for her stance on the
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Speaker 2: undocumented community and, in particular, their advocacy, especially during, like, elections,
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Speaker 2: campaign season. And she, in some ways— you know, felt
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Speaker 2: like that was not the priority. That should not be
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Speaker 2: the issue that is number one. And there had been
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Speaker 2: critique over the years, right? But I think that, again,
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Speaker 2: that shows like the complexity of people, of that we
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Speaker 2: don't always get it right. We can get it wrong
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Speaker 2: a lot of the times, but that also doesn't erase
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Speaker 2: the good work that we do do as humans, as people,
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Speaker 2: as someone as complex as Dolores Huerta.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's very interesting. I was having a conversation with
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Speaker 1: a friend recently about how I personally feel that if
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Speaker 1: we look at American history, the last century at least
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Speaker 1: of United States history, that Dolores Huerta is probably like
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Speaker 1: the single most most prominent Latina in our history, who
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Speaker 1: has had the longest public career and the longest life
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Speaker 1: and the longest life and the most material impact with
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Speaker 1: regards to legislation, labor and civil rights. I mean, culturally,
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Speaker 1: the CISEP WEDES slogan that has become, you know, just
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Speaker 1: this really like root and foundation and like It's the animal,
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Speaker 1: you know, behind so much of what I think our
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Speaker 1: communities have. Like, I don't know. It's just she she
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Speaker 1: gave us like a heartbeat and a pulse. Yes. With
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Speaker 1: that slogan, what's he said? Whether that has just persisted
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Speaker 1: and lived on and it's not going anywhere. You know,
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Speaker 1: and I think that it's really incredible to think about
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Speaker 1: the impact that she's had. And I don't think that
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Speaker 1: anyone else currently is comparable. Like, she's it for the
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Speaker 1: past hundred years, I think. And I had the chance
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Speaker 1: to share that idea with Dolores's daughter, Lupita. And Lupita said, well,
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Speaker 1: you know, that her mother had not been recognized really
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Speaker 1: for in a substantial way until Dolores was in her 60s.
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Speaker 1: But she had already been working and organizing for decades
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Speaker 1: before that. And what Lupita said was that next figure,
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Speaker 1: that next person is working right now behind the scenes
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Speaker 1: is unknown or is relatively unknown. And that next figure
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Speaker 1: probably also won't be recognized or celebrated. for decades or
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Speaker 1: until they're in their 60s or 70s. But that woman
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Speaker 1: is out there, you know, grinding currently to make changes.
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Speaker 1: And we can look at people that we've talked about
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Speaker 1: on the show, like a Eunice Hernandez or an AOC
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Speaker 1: or a Sasha Renee Perez, whoever it might be, who
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Speaker 1: is hitting the pavement and and making changes in a
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Speaker 1: real impactful way. So, I don't know, I just think
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Speaker 1: it's really profound. Also that Dolores Huerta, right, by many definitions,
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Speaker 1: was this, like you're saying, not only complex, but deeply
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Speaker 1: imperfect person. Yeah. And when the news of her survivor
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Speaker 1: story broke, and the sexual assault that she suffered at
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Speaker 1: the hands of Cesar Chavez, you know, reading the comment
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Speaker 1: section was really.
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Speaker 1: Like a horrific experience. Of course. Because there were a
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Speaker 1: lot of Latinos, a lot of men that I saw
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Speaker 1: in the comment section who were making a lot of
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Speaker 1: horrible comments about Dolores and the type of woman that
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Speaker 1: she was. Of course. Because of the number of children
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Speaker 1: that she had, out of wedlock, and the number of
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Speaker 1: partners that she had, what have you. And these really
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Speaker 1: nasty attacks on her personhood and her womanhood and her
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Speaker 1: character were And I feel like Dolores Huerta is one
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Speaker 1: of those figures who really brings to life that saying
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Speaker 1: that well-behaved women rarely make history. She spent her life
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Speaker 1: in a state of protest.
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Speaker 2: Yeah.
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Speaker 1: Yeah.
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Speaker 2: I mean, I think her narrative in particular really highlights
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Speaker 2: the perfect victim, right? Concept that there is no perfect
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Speaker 2: victim right there. She made a huge sacrifice. for the
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Speaker 2: quote greater good by not naming her abuser decades ago.
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Speaker 2: That's a huge sacrifice like that. I don't think just
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Speaker 2: anyone can fathom the type of sacrifice that she made
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Speaker 2: that I think is, of course, is embedded in our culture. Right.
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Speaker 2: To be self-sacrificing for the greater good. And I think
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Speaker 2: more on the micro level, like for our families, let
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Speaker 2: us be self-sacrificing as women for our families. And she
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Speaker 2: was self-sacrificing for the, quote, greater good, for the movement.
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Speaker 1: Don't go anywhere, Locamores. We'll be right back.
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Speaker 2: And that is so common, not only in movement spaces,
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Speaker 2: but within our community, in our little families, in our
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Speaker 2: maybe broader communities. But this concept, which we know is
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Speaker 2: Marianismo of the way women can be so self-sacrificing that
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Speaker 2: it's detrimental to their own well-being, whether that's their health,
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Speaker 2: their emotional well-being, all of the above.
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Speaker 1: Right.
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Speaker 2: And I don't think that it's. It's fathomable the type
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Speaker 2: of sacrifice that she made that I don't think just
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Speaker 2: anybody could make.
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Speaker 1: No. Or should make.
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Speaker 2: She shouldn't have had to make that sacrifice, but she
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Speaker 2: made a choice. And considering the time, considering the time
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Speaker 2: that it was, even now, even now after everything that
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Speaker 2: we know, post Me Too movement, there's still so much
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Speaker 2: doubt about her story and survivor stories in general.
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Speaker 1: And I think it's important to remind folks that The
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Speaker 1: news about Cesar Chavez broke after a very extensive— Seven
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Speaker 1: years of reporting. Yes, very extensive investigation from The New
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Speaker 1: York Times. And there are records, you know, from the UFW.
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Speaker 1: There are writings and testimonials and letters and witnesses. I mean,
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Speaker 1: the amount of evidence was extensive. Yes. And I think
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Speaker 1: that's really important. Not that anybody should have to come
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Speaker 1: up with that amount of documentation, but The records are there,
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Speaker 1: you know, and Dolores is one voice among many who
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Speaker 1: are confirming what all of the evidence is indicating, that
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Speaker 1: he was abusing women in the movement. And she didn't have.
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Speaker 1: I think when we think about like survivor stories and
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Speaker 1: telling your story, a lot of it has to do
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Speaker 1: with the survivor reclaiming their narrative and reclaiming their power,
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Speaker 1: which is so much of the power of telling one story.
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Speaker 1: You know, this is my experience and I'm taking back
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Speaker 1: my own narrative and taking back my own story and
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Speaker 1: reclaiming my power. And she didn't do that for herself.
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Speaker 1: She didn't give herself her own story back for her
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Speaker 1: own peace of mind. You know, it was about keeping
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Speaker 1: the power and the attention, again, on the movement and
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Speaker 1: on the laws they were trying to get passed.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, on the needs of the farm workers and the
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Speaker 2: labor movement.
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Speaker 1: Yeah.
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Speaker 2: As opposed to her own survival, her own needs, her
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Speaker 2: own justice. And I think it goes also... back to
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Speaker 2: consider the time, right? This was the 60s, the 70s.
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Speaker 2: If it's hard for survivors now to get justice, I mean,
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Speaker 2: consider what that must have been like for her in
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Speaker 2: the 60s, and not just her, but all girls and women, right,
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Speaker 2: in the 60s and 70s. Because even now, it's still challenging.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely. So, It's a very— and I'm always a little
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Speaker 1: bit torn when someone of her age passes away because
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Speaker 1: she lived a very long life. 96 years old. She
18:45
Speaker 1: did so much. She saw so much. And it's a
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Speaker 1: sad day, but in some ways it's also, I think,
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Speaker 1: a day that we can celebrate her and thank her.
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Speaker 1: And I know that there's likely going to be a
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Speaker 1: lot of— about her in her life that contain a
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Speaker 1: lot of critique. And I think that there are going
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Speaker 1: to be plenty of people that will not necessarily have
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Speaker 1: kind words at this point because of disagreements over her
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Speaker 1: politics or her approaches or what she prioritized in her life.
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Speaker 1: But I think that at least here in this space,
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Speaker 1: it's important for us to say, like, thank you. And
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Speaker 1: to acknowledge her for who she was and what she did.
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Speaker 1: A trailblazer. Yeah.
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Speaker 2: So many of so many of us would not be
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Speaker 2: where we are without a Dolores Huerta, without the trailblazers
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Speaker 2: that came before us, not just as organizers, but as. policymakers, legislators.
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Speaker 2: And I think that cannot be forgotten, that we can
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Speaker 2: have our critiques and our opinions about our leaders and
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Speaker 2: now historical figures, of course, but also really giving people
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Speaker 2: the dignity of humanity, of their complexities, I think is
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Speaker 2: really important. And they cannot, we as people and women
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Speaker 2: in particular, should not be reduced to a critique either. Yeah.
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Speaker 1: We have no perfect heroes either. No. And looking for
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Speaker 1: that is deeply unfair to us, you know, and to
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Speaker 1: the people who stick their necks out to try and
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Speaker 1: make life better for us. And Dolores being one of
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Speaker 1: those people. And, you know, there was a moment when I,
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Speaker 1: so I, in speaking with Lupita because she accepted the
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Speaker 1: Heart of the Family Award on behalf of her mom,
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Speaker 1: Dolores was not there. But after the awards ceremony, I
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Speaker 1: was there talking to Lupita and Alicia Del Valle was
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Speaker 1: there and Ophelia Zuniga. And all three of us were
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Speaker 1: sharing about how literally all three of us have fathers
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Speaker 1: who were farm workers, who picked oranges, who picked cotton,
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Speaker 1: who picked peaches. And all three of us were there
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Speaker 1: at this event. And all of us have our careers
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Speaker 1: in farming. The arts and entertainment and Ophelia now is
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Speaker 1: is back working in a space with farm workers doing
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Speaker 1: organizing work. But we have this direct connection to the
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Speaker 1: Central Valley and and to farm work through our dads.
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Speaker 1: And I know that all of our dads and our
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Speaker 1: families were deeply impacted by the work of Dolores Huerta
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Speaker 1: and the United Farm Workers Movement. And that work very
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Speaker 1: much has had this result that we are able to thrive.
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Speaker 1: in our lives and pursue the work that we want
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Speaker 1: to do and live our dreams and have autonomy over
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Speaker 1: our time and our labor. And it was really an
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Speaker 1: incredible moment to realize like, oh my God, all three
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Speaker 1: of us, like we're in this media space, but we have,
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Speaker 1: we're one generation removed from Kern County and from farm
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Speaker 1: work and Dolores's role in our own our own families
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Speaker 1: and the way we've been able to to thrive in
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Speaker 1: a lot of ways because of like her lifelong sacrifices,
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Speaker 1: you know, and then just and keeping it going, you know,
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Speaker 1: keeping it going. So, yeah, she I think that there's
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Speaker 1: probably a lot of folks out there whose lives have
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Speaker 1: been positively impacted. Without necessarily seeing it or knowing it
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Speaker 1: or reflecting on it. But I think it's an important
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Speaker 1: moment for each of us to say, like, what impact
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Speaker 1: did she have on my life? Because there's probably a
22:53
Speaker 1: connection there if you haven't yet connected those dots.
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Speaker 2: Absolutely. Absolutely. Thank you for sharing that story. That's beautiful.
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Speaker 2: I think that's a really touching way to end this episode.
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Speaker 2: and this emergency tribute to Dolores Huerta because when the
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Speaker 2: news broke this morning, we told ourselves, well, what else
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Speaker 2: can we talk about?
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Speaker 1: This is what we have to talk about today.
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Speaker 2: So here we are. We hope you take some time
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Speaker 2: to reflect on Dolores Huerta's lasting impact, legacy, and a
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Speaker 2: really great reminder to always give the women in your
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Speaker 2: life their flowers while they're still here. the women in
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Speaker 2: your life who support you, who advocate for you, and
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Speaker 2: also like the folks doing the work. Give them their
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Speaker 2: flowers while they're still here. And I think that that
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Speaker 2: is something that we as a community did get to
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Speaker 2: do for Dolores Huerta. I think in the last decade
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Speaker 2: in particular, she really did get her flowers. And I
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Speaker 2: hope she felt some peace in her final days.
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Speaker 1: And giving flowers to the imperfect women in our lives.
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Speaker 2: Yes. Give them their flowers.
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Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah. It's, I think, very easy to be hypercritical
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Speaker 1: when women make mistakes.
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Speaker 2: No seas criticona. Okay.
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Speaker 1: It's not cute. It's not cute. It's an ugly quality.
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Speaker 2: To end on just like a little dicho that I
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Speaker 2: thought about while you were talking, Mala, about, you know,
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Speaker 2: there's always something to critique in some way. There's no
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Speaker 2: imperfect figure or hero. There's this saying in Spanish that
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Speaker 2: I feel like applies for, you could apply it for anything.
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Speaker 2: And it's like, no le buscas cinco pies al gato.
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Speaker 2: If you look for something to be wrong, you'll find something.
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Speaker 1: Oh, yeah.
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Speaker 2: You know, and that could apply for anything. Relationships, friendships, jobs, people, anything.
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Speaker 2: And I think that if we're really looking to find
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Speaker 2: something wrong, we'll find it. So just consider that.
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Speaker 1: Just think about it. That's great.
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Speaker 2: All right, Locamores. We will catch you next time. Besitos. Besitos.
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Speaker 1: Lokalandia!