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Jaguars Happy Hour: Thursday, February 7 · The Jacksonville Jaguars Official Podcast Network

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Speaker 1: Thursday, February seventh. This is Jaguars Happy Hour and now
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Speaker 1: that guy who was hiding inside the cake during the
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Speaker 1: NFL commercial j P. Welcome in Jaguars Happy Hour. The
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Speaker 1: offseason officially here. Now. Welcome in j P, Shadrick, Jeff Logaman,
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Speaker 1: Tony Boselli in studio of Full House tonight and plenty
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Speaker 1: to get to quarterback options coming up? What will the
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Speaker 1: We're gonna get some answers from these two tonight. What
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Speaker 1: will the Jaguars do at the quarterback position? Jalen Ramsey
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Speaker 1: will hear from the Jaguars cornerback. He sat down with
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Speaker 1: Ashlyn Sullivan for an in depth sit down. It's on
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Speaker 1: Jaguars dot Com. We'll here from the Jags corner coming up.
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Speaker 1: What are the coaches doing right now? They're back in
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Speaker 1: the office this week. Then we'll review the Super Bowl
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Speaker 1: and look at our picks and go around the national
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Speaker 1: football That's what's coming up. By the way, did not
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Speaker 1: know that you were hiding in the cake of the
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Speaker 1: years celebrations left. That was an awesome commercial. But he
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Speaker 1: did a great job. That was what was this? Because
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Speaker 1: oh I could see it in the stadium. I didn't
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Speaker 1: hear the sound was it was? It was a two
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Speaker 1: minute long commercial that featured some of today. Was there
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Speaker 1: any sound behind it? Was? Oh yeah, oh yeah. Everybody
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Speaker 1: headlines it was. The thing is that Commissioner Goodell is
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Speaker 1: there and then all of a sudden you got beast
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Speaker 1: mode Marshawn Lynch reaching back to get a little bit
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Speaker 1: of icing off the cake, and he falls and knocks
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Speaker 1: the cake backwards a little bit. The ball top falls
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Speaker 1: off and hits the ground and was rolling around, and
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Speaker 1: all of a sudden, Mike Singletary takes his glasses off
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Speaker 1: and goes and everybody starts going after it, and the
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Speaker 1: ball is going all over the place. It was one
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Speaker 1: of the greatest NFL commercials that I've ever seen. They
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Speaker 1: did a good job. It was watching it in the
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Speaker 1: stadium on the big board of the year campaign. Yes,
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Speaker 1: Joe Fortunate. Okay, you guys saw it. You only saw it,
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Speaker 1: didn't hear it, Tony, But do you remember um Terry
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Speaker 1: Bradshaw throwing the ball his pass? Who blocked it? Yeah,
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Speaker 1: Jalen Frankoe Harris made the catch like Jalen Ramsey was
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Speaker 1: in it a couple of times, and uh, I think
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Speaker 1: one of the cool things for kids of today. I
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Speaker 1: don't know if you saw this or not, but probably
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Speaker 1: the most world famous gamer of all time was in
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Speaker 1: the commercial, the guy that had the diet hair. He
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Speaker 1: was at the honors to Ninja. Ninja was in it,
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Speaker 1: and only because he was at the honor then my
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Speaker 1: son is a gamer, and so I mean he was like,
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Speaker 1: that's Ninja. You know, it's pretty cool kind world popular
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Speaker 1: they're actually having growing up like video games like what
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Speaker 1: you did and you like yelled at did you know?
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Speaker 1: Did you know? Kid outside? Did you know that they
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Speaker 1: now are offering scholarships at universities for gaming. No, I
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Speaker 1: don't understand it. I don't mean they are. I'm not.
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Speaker 1: I'm not. That's nothing to do with our football show.
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Speaker 1: But I don't get. I don't get how people like
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Speaker 1: watching other people playing video games. What was your favorite
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Speaker 1: part of the of the commercial? The Ramsey part and
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Speaker 1: that at the end was really cool. I did like
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Speaker 1: the Tom Brady Baker Mayfield thing. Here hold these and
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Speaker 1: there's that that was one of the coolest I thought
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Speaker 1: that was. I didn't hear the audio, but when he
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Speaker 1: takes all the rings off and Joe Montana wouldn't throw
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Speaker 1: it to Michael Irvin. He's like, no, no, cowboy somewhere.
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Speaker 1: It was pretty neat. Well, it was good. How about
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Speaker 1: the fact that Troy Aikman was asked to be in
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Speaker 1: it and he turned it down because he didn't want
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Speaker 1: to spend an extra forty eight hours in Los Angeles?
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Speaker 1: How do you do that? And he there's a big
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Speaker 1: article on it, and how he said he didn't think
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Speaker 1: it was that big a deal and he thought was
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Speaker 1: something playing next year and then he saw it and
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Speaker 1: guarantee he had a huge regrets for that. Sure. I mean,
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Speaker 1: it's one of the greatest NFL commercials that they've ever done.
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Speaker 1: There there's a two minute version online. Well that's the
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Speaker 1: one day played in in the Super Not everything is ever.
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Speaker 1: At the very end, you got Larry's not sitting there
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Speaker 1: with a bottle of champagne. He's got one hand, he's
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Speaker 1: trying to pop it and he just can't do it,
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Speaker 1: and he goes, I can't pop this and they bleep them.
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Speaker 1: The only thing I was just about because and maybe
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Speaker 1: I missed it, there was no offensive linement in it,
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Speaker 1: like where's Anthi Monos or something like that. Blocking of course,
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Speaker 1: see there's yeah, that's true. There wasn't there was none.
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Speaker 1: There was defensive lineman, there was linebackers or skill guys.
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Speaker 1: Where are the offensive linement? They don't really matter obviously not.
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Speaker 1: Hey guys, let's tall a quarterback today. We'll get some
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Speaker 1: answers out of YouTube. On February seventh, let's start with
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Speaker 1: the Nick Foles news this week that the Eagles are
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Speaker 1: exercising the option full set. He's buying his way out
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Speaker 1: of it, though the team can still franchise tag him,
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Speaker 1: which would be against c b A if they are
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Speaker 1: not allowed to. Technically, you're not supposed to accord the
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Speaker 1: c b A franchise a player with the intent of
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Speaker 1: trading him. I see, it goes against the spirit. So
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Speaker 1: it will be interesting to see because it's the kind
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Speaker 1: of same thing applies for what is being talked about
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Speaker 1: now about Levian Bell could get the transition tag with
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Speaker 1: Pittsburgh Steelers. That's the same purpose of having a transition
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Speaker 1: tag as well as to resign a player. So will
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Speaker 1: the NFL p A file some type of an appeal
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Speaker 1: in advance for both of these players, and if the
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Speaker 1: union is doing its job, they will And I don't
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Speaker 1: know if they can until it's actually done by the clubs,
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Speaker 1: but it would be I think it would be nice
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Speaker 1: if the union were to be proactive in some way
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Speaker 1: so that this doesn't kind of the process doesn't get
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Speaker 1: slowed up for either one of these two players, because
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Speaker 1: that's not the spirit of what the transition tag and
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Speaker 1: the franchise tags were all about. Well, it does bring
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Speaker 1: up the you know, it's kind of the start of
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Speaker 1: the bad blood between the I mean not that it's
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Speaker 1: good blood, but you know, the lockouts coming unless something
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Speaker 1: changes after this year because the cb A is it
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Speaker 1: after this year, after twenty yeah, so in the next
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Speaker 1: two years. Um. You know, it just makes you think
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Speaker 1: of if all of a sudden, it's just gonna add
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Speaker 1: another thing in the in the player's mind of you know,
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Speaker 1: another reason if if ownership was smart, that they would
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Speaker 1: they would try to do something positively, because I think
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Speaker 1: the owners widely they have embraced the c BA the
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Speaker 1: way it is. I think it's more it's disliked from
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Speaker 1: from some players standpoint, and I think the ownership though,
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Speaker 1: would like to renew it for another ten of fifteen years.
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Speaker 1: So uh so, maybe this is something that the I
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Speaker 1: don't want to say it would be an olive branch,
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Speaker 1: but it's something that the league could say, Hey, look,
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Speaker 1: you know that's the way we needed to go about
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Speaker 1: things is let's not make let's not make something out
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Speaker 1: of nothing, because that's kind of what it is. I mean,
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Speaker 1: the players clearly aren't gonna go back. Maybe I was
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Speaker 1: not going back to Pittsburgh, and Nick Foles is not
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Speaker 1: going to go back to the Philadelphia Eagles to play.
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Speaker 1: So I mean, come on, let them be free. I mean,
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Speaker 1: let them let them be free, because that's what the
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Speaker 1: spirit of that of those things were. I don't know,
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Speaker 1: we'll see if he's free and out there, do you
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Speaker 1: make a run at him? If you're the Jags all
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Speaker 1: day long? A price tag matters, but yeah, price always matters.
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Speaker 1: But absolutely, I mean we say absolutely, and I say absolutely,
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Speaker 1: and I look, if it gets you know, twenties sn million,
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Speaker 1: I don't think. I don't think it's absolutely at all,
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Speaker 1: you know, I mean you never know, though, you never know.
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Speaker 1: I mean, it just takes two. I mean, if you've
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Speaker 1: got two teams. I mean, because look, that's the reality.
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Speaker 1: That's why you as a player, you always wanted to
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Speaker 1: get a free agency because it didn't take thirty two
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Speaker 1: teams to like its couple. It takes in some instances,
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Speaker 1: it takes one. I mean, I mean look at this team.
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Speaker 1: For example, they gave a ton of money to Alan
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Speaker 1: Hearns without any competition. In that case, it took one
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Speaker 1: team that loved Alan Hearns. I can't think his name,
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Speaker 1: the wide receiver. We paid nine million dollars for one year,
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Speaker 1: oh gosh, from the Raiders from the Raiders, from from Indiana.
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Speaker 1: There was a big market out there for other people.
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Speaker 1: And I don't know if he had any competition for
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Speaker 1: anybody else, but you know what I'm saying, It just
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Speaker 1: takes one. Yeah, it takes one. Um and in the
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Speaker 1: perfect world, if you're a player, it takes two. And
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Speaker 1: if it's if you got to then you can ramp
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Speaker 1: it up. Here comes I mean, you know where where
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Speaker 1: is nick falls market is where somebody is willing to
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Speaker 1: go is um? Are we convinced that he's the franchise
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Speaker 1: franchise corp back? No, why are you gonna paying franchise money?
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Speaker 1: Coming convinced he's better than Okay, okay, let me get
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Speaker 1: a couple of money for money, doesn't matter I know
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Speaker 1: what matters, but I mean, just for for our purposes here,
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Speaker 1: out of all the quarterbacks that are expected to be available,
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Speaker 1: who would you take. Well, I'm gonna say differently. If
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Speaker 1: you like, uh, let's say there's a couple of quarterbacks
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Speaker 1: you like in the draft, would you be better? So
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Speaker 1: let's assume that's the assumption. There's a couple of quarterbacks
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Speaker 1: you like, whoever they are. Are you gonna pay Nick
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Speaker 1: Foles twenty five million dollars for the next three years
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Speaker 1: or two years whatever, what's a big boatload of that's
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Speaker 1: gonna be guaranteed? So he's your guy to tie you
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Speaker 1: up sary cap wise this year, especially because of Blake
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Speaker 1: Um or you better off going let's go get rant
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Speaker 1: Tanny Hill for instance, he's gonna get cut. A guy
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Speaker 1: like that or a Flacco goes to my original question
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Speaker 1: and ignore what else is happening. Which quarterback do you like?
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Speaker 1: But my point is would you rather have that guy
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Speaker 1: with a one year deal and an option team option
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Speaker 1: and draft a guy you like? Well, here's the deal,
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Speaker 1: Tony Bosella. You're the head coach, general manager, and and
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Speaker 1: executive vice president. You're all three wrapped in a one,
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Speaker 1: guess what you need to win? Based you need to
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Speaker 1: win well, then I mean based on that I'm not owner.
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Speaker 1: You need to win. If you're looking at this group show,
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Speaker 1: you're gonna go get Nick Foles. If you're this, if
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Speaker 1: you're playing for the today tomorrow, you're gonna go get
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Speaker 1: Nick Foles and say, I didn't say. My My thing
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Speaker 1: is is that Nick Fole's any draft one. But it's
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Speaker 1: not gonna happen because Nick Foles. What do you draft
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Speaker 1: one later in the draft. You're not gonna draft a
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Speaker 1: first round quarter Why the hell not? Okay, but hold
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Speaker 1: on now. If you're gonna if because I'm gonna go
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Speaker 1: back to what you just said, you just told me
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Speaker 1: winning right now is most important. So I'm gonna draft
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Speaker 1: Nick Foles, and I'm gonna go fill the other positions
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Speaker 1: on the offensive line. I gotta fill. So I have
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Speaker 1: because if I'm going all in pay twenty five million
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Speaker 1: dollars for the quarterback, then I'm going to draft a
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Speaker 1: playmaker and or an offensive lineman whatever the best player
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Speaker 1: at offensive player at seven is. That's why I'm drafting
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Speaker 1: a quarterback. Because you're taking a quarterback both you just
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Speaker 1: paid you you're locked in fold for the next two years.
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Speaker 1: That way I got blocked for I got two years
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Speaker 1: to develop my own Rodgers. If I've got a guy
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Speaker 1: that I left seven and I've already signed Nick Foles
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Speaker 1: in free agency, I don't care. I'm taking the quarterback.
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Speaker 1: Not if you're trying to win tomorrow. Yeah, I am.
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Speaker 1: I'll find I'll find a way. We're just gonna look
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Speaker 1: like last year. There I'll draft. I'll just make sure
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Speaker 1: i'll do a better job drafting rounds two, three, four,
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Speaker 1: because a lot of seven rounders make a big difference.
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Speaker 1: You never know they've been they've done it before. Undrafted
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Speaker 1: guys have done it before. True was Lindsay drafted by
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Speaker 1: the Denver Brown comes this past year. There's one. Okay,
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Speaker 1: I'm saying that the last receiver that was drafted in
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Speaker 1: the fifth, six, seventh round that made a big impact
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Speaker 1: on your Antonio Brown was four. You're one need to
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Speaker 1: make a big deal. He wasn't impact player. Yere one.
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Speaker 1: You can't have it both ways. You just told me
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Speaker 1: that you have to win next year. That's why you're
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Speaker 1: getting Nick Foles. You're going down my path. I'd rather
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Speaker 1: go get a guy with this defense that I think
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Speaker 1: I can still compete for the division and go draft
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Speaker 1: a quarterback that they can set me up for the Teddy.
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Speaker 1: Lets let me change the question. Let me change, let
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Speaker 1: me change the question. If you're the owner of the
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Speaker 1: team and you're Jerry Jones, you own the team, and
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Speaker 1: you're a draft team and you're building this team's roster,
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Speaker 1: what would you do. I'll go get a Bridgewater or
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Speaker 1: Tanny Hill or not. You're not number one Nick Foles. Listen,
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Speaker 1: he's done some good things. He's also been cut multiple
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Speaker 1: times and teams I think the important weren't crazy about him.
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Speaker 1: I think the important thing that we're all in agreement
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Speaker 1: is is number one is that you don't pass up
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Speaker 1: an opportunity to get your own franchise quarterback, and then
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Speaker 1: what you do with that. From a veteran standpoint, this
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Speaker 1: is whatever you can do money wise. That makes sense.
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Speaker 1: Why I just look at the overall roster offensively, tell
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Speaker 1: me whether you got just make plays? Tell me the
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Speaker 1: will give me one player? Well, that's a great question. Okay,
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Speaker 1: I'll give you don't have you don't have a lot
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Speaker 1: of playmakers on offense right now? Like this, I'll give
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Speaker 1: you three guys. I'm I'm I feel pretty good about
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Speaker 1: going next year with Yeah, one will surprise you. Okay, Um, Winder, Okay,
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Speaker 1: I'm assuming they're healthy. I think they'll be fine. I
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Speaker 1: actually ben fine with Parnell coming back at right tackle. Um,
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Speaker 1: those are the three. Next on the list is Cam Robinson. Mhmm.
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Speaker 1: Because but I have questions because if he didn't have
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Speaker 1: a great beginning of the year, he was hurt come
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Speaker 1: back from an A C O. But he's a talented kid, Okay, Yeah,
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Speaker 1: and he's got the right mindset. He has the right mindset,
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Speaker 1: and he looked like he looks in shape, you know,
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Speaker 1: but he has the athletic of Bill. You can fix
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Speaker 1: the footwork didn't get fixed last two years. I'm hoping
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Speaker 1: there was a wake up call. Okay, Um after that,
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Speaker 1: After that, you said you were hoping. That's why I
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Speaker 1: said I only said three. Remember d D would be
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Speaker 1: the next guy. You didn't have d D. And that's
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Speaker 1: the first skill guy, and he's fourth on your list. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: you could you could talk me into putting my head
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Speaker 1: of Cam. Yeah, I would think so. Yeah, if I
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Speaker 1: thought about it, I would put you. Okay, so he's fourth.
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Speaker 1: Then the confidence drops off a cliff. No tight ends
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Speaker 1: to speak up that have a lot of true success, nope.
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Speaker 1: Wide receivers haven't proven a nope. No running backs nope,
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Speaker 1: we've talked that today. No nothing going on there. Quarterback Nope, nope.
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Speaker 1: So my point is, you throw Nick Foles out there
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Speaker 1: and all of a sudden like whoh now we're ready
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Speaker 1: to roll. Makes you better? It makes you better. But
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Speaker 1: Nick Foles talking to people around the league, nick Foles
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Speaker 1: is a he's a solid player. Yeah he's not. He
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Speaker 1: has not proven he's a franchise quarterback. You know, now,
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Speaker 1: maybe maybe you can be an affordable number. Tony Boselli owner,
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Speaker 1: general manager, seventeen seventeen to twenty one million. And as
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Speaker 1: an owner, you would still draft a quarterback in the
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Speaker 1: draft and then pay Nick Foles seventeen one? Would you
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Speaker 1: would draft him later in the draft. You wouldn't draft
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Speaker 1: him first seventeen seventeen because like Bridgewater, you're playing fifteen thirteen, fifteen,
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Speaker 1: you're paying Tanny Hill, you know, twelve to I mean
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Speaker 1: you're gonna pay those guys. I mean to get any
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Speaker 1: quarterback you're paying plush fifteen probably, And so if I
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Speaker 1: would go to Nick Foles seventeen twenty, as long as
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Speaker 1: I didn't kill myself for a future years out a
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Speaker 1: two year deal where I can get rid of him
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Speaker 1: after year one if it's a complete disaster and uh,
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Speaker 1: and then I draft a quarterback at seven at seven, Yes,
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Speaker 1: but I wouldn't pay Nick Foles million dollars with big
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Speaker 1: guarantees over that's gonna that I am stuck for two
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Speaker 1: years possibly three. Would you pay him a two year
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Speaker 1: I'm in the same position I am right now with Blake.
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Speaker 1: We're gonna eat a bunch of dead money. What would
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Speaker 1: you would you pay him? I'm I'm I'm folds of
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Speaker 1: his agent. We want two years, fully guaranteed at not
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Speaker 1: guaranteeing the full amount. I'm not guaranteeing year two us
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Speaker 1: a guarantee. Well, I've got I've got the Mommie Dolphins
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Speaker 1: that are willing to pay. That's my point. I think
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Speaker 1: the market Nick Foles is going to get more expensive,
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Speaker 1: and I'm willing to pay. That's what I mean. If
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Speaker 1: I'm the fair enough let's come back now, I could
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Speaker 1: be dead wrong. No, see, I would I would ask
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Speaker 1: JP some of those same questions, but JPN forking over
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Speaker 1: no money j p any partner with his money, if
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Speaker 1: he's the owner. Now, the only thing that I would
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Speaker 1: add to that, The only thing I'd add to it
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Speaker 1: is which I have not done. I would also be
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Speaker 1: evaluating next year's quarterback class. M hmm. I like that
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Speaker 1: because that would now so if it's a if it's
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Speaker 1: a strong class like this past year, where they're like
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Speaker 1: three or four guys that you're like I can get
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Speaker 1: excited about, then I would look at that and I say, Okay,
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Speaker 1: you know what, maybe I'll go pay Nick Foles more
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Speaker 1: over a two year period. I'll draft skilled players at
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Speaker 1: seven and then go quarterback, you know, the following year.
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Speaker 1: I mean, so you have to I don't think. I
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Speaker 1: think good gms are looking now and in the future.
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Speaker 1: Now the question is the Jeff point. If you got
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Speaker 1: a group here who's thinking I gotta win this year.
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Speaker 1: Otherwise we're on the street looking for jobs, and it's
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Speaker 1: human nature. At that point. I'm making decisions for tomorrow
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Speaker 1: and I'm I'm drafted. I'm going to get Nick Foles.
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Speaker 1: I think he is the best quarterback, and I'm going
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Speaker 1: to draft. I'm not drafting a quarterback to develop I'm
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Speaker 1: going to get somewhere off seventh pick. Let's come back.
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Speaker 1: interview was I didn't think it was gonna like that
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22:11
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22:13
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22:16
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22:19
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Speaker 1: out just for people to get the context of everything.
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Speaker 1: It wasn't as serious as uh, certain people read it
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22:37
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Speaker 1: last season interviews he did with g Q and ESPN
23:00
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23:02
Speaker 1: heard from him before. Welcome back, j P Shadrick, Tony
23:06
Speaker 1: was Sully. Jeff Logan, Yes, Tony, I thought that was
23:09
Speaker 1: mature the way he said. You know, he didn't come
23:14
Speaker 1: out and say I was completely taking out a context,
23:16
Speaker 1: but he basically I was joking. But I've learned from it.
23:18
Speaker 1: And I need to take a different uh, handle it
23:21
Speaker 1: differently in the future. I'm okay, I'm fine with that.
23:24
Speaker 1: I mean, he's a young guy. He learned from it.
23:26
Speaker 1: It didn't go the way he thought he was. And
23:29
Speaker 1: this is the danger because you start talking to a
23:31
Speaker 1: reporter and you're joking around and and then they write it.
23:35
Speaker 1: And he joked around for a long time. No, but
23:37
Speaker 1: I'm saying, but you say things. You know, we all
23:39
Speaker 1: do it though. You say things in conversation, and then
23:42
Speaker 1: when someone writes it down and there's no context or
23:45
Speaker 1: body language or voice inflection, and it's just words, black
23:49
Speaker 1: words on a white piece of paper, then you're like,
23:53
Speaker 1: that doesn't sound that doesn't really read. I love But
23:59
Speaker 1: I'm not saying when said was okay, by the way,
24:01
Speaker 1: sure he did. We need to see body language on
24:05
Speaker 1: the comments that he made about all the quarterbacks. Yeah,
24:07
Speaker 1: But here's the difference. If I say, um, if we're
24:11
Speaker 1: talking junk, I said, oh, I mean you're trash, yeah,
24:15
Speaker 1: and it writes yeah, but I'm saying quote it was
24:22
Speaker 1: quote was saying Jeff Lockman is trash. But me and
24:25
Speaker 1: you were talking. I understand that. But the first people
24:28
Speaker 1: reading the article of that written down is viewed much
24:33
Speaker 1: differently than the conversation we were having back and forth.
24:37
Speaker 1: But he went through like twenty quarterbacks in national I
24:40
Speaker 1: don't like I understand that. My point what I might
24:42
Speaker 1: have been part of the count in the car, whatever
24:44
Speaker 1: he said, what I appreciate about what he said there.
24:46
Speaker 1: He learned a lot, he learned from it, and he
24:48
Speaker 1: should take a different path of course next time in
24:51
Speaker 1: doing it. And learned not a lot, but but also
24:53
Speaker 1: part of I think what he learned is is that
24:56
Speaker 1: body language isn't all of what he learned either. I
24:58
Speaker 1: didn't say by language, but how you communicate, how you
25:02
Speaker 1: communicating what you say, because you know, what all he
25:06
Speaker 1: did was provide motivation to every quarterback that they faced.
25:11
Speaker 1: And you can't do that to your team. That's not
25:13
Speaker 1: being a team guy. And I think he's learned from that,
25:15
Speaker 1: hopefully he has, if he hasn't, Like I. First of all,
25:18
Speaker 1: I think Jeralen Ramsey's a smart guy, very smart. I
25:22
Speaker 1: I think I know he is a very bright individual.
25:26
Speaker 1: So there you have a full interview available Jaguars dot
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Speaker 1: Com got to hear from let's go back to the quarterback,
25:31
Speaker 1: Let's go back to that right now in this well,
25:34
Speaker 1: I think it's because as fans and even as us
25:37
Speaker 1: in the media, as we just kind of sit back
25:38
Speaker 1: and it's easy for us to say, oh, yeah, I
25:40
Speaker 1: go do this, go do that. You know, this is
25:41
Speaker 1: what you need to do. Um, but I think you
25:44
Speaker 1: have to look at the bigger You have to It
25:46
Speaker 1: has to be a part of your overall plan of
25:49
Speaker 1: who you're gonna draft and how you're gonna draft it,
25:51
Speaker 1: what you're gonna do in free agency. And it's so
25:53
Speaker 1: and I think the offseason always starts with the free
25:55
Speaker 1: agency and as we were talking about it, and it's
25:59
Speaker 1: also conversations understanding Warriors organization, what the desires of the
26:04
Speaker 1: ownership is and and and looking at the big picture.
26:08
Speaker 1: And so you and where we are person are overall
26:12
Speaker 1: team is we have a very good defense. It's gonna
26:14
Speaker 1: be very good next year. Again, there's no reason. I mean,
26:19
Speaker 1: they were top five in scoring yards this year. They're
26:21
Speaker 1: gonna be top five next year as well. I'm not
26:22
Speaker 1: saying they're gonna be with their two years ago where
26:24
Speaker 1: they were scoring points, and but they're gonna be very
26:26
Speaker 1: good good defense. And so with that, you say, okay,
26:29
Speaker 1: we have a window of one at least next year,
26:32
Speaker 1: maybe longer than that with this defense as it is
26:35
Speaker 1: that I'm not saying. Let me actually just wrote one
26:36
Speaker 1: quick question about this defense, because it's widely believed that
26:41
Speaker 1: and I think I almost say it's a done deal.
26:43
Speaker 1: But Lake Jackson is not gonna be back. The next
26:45
Speaker 1: two that are going to be question marks. Or to
26:47
Speaker 1: Shaun Gibson, he's gone. Okay, uh, Jared Wilson stepped into
26:53
Speaker 1: his Ronne Harrison will be your too safety, and I
26:56
Speaker 1: think they'll do a good job. Actually, I think it'd
26:59
Speaker 1: be more athletic at the st position this year than
27:00
Speaker 1: you were last. I'm not saying you would be better,
27:02
Speaker 1: because veteran presence and experience matters, okay, but I think
27:06
Speaker 1: you'd be more. Let me just bring this this up
27:08
Speaker 1: because for for many games that you played when you
27:12
Speaker 1: featured a premier tight end, you had to Shaun Gibson
27:17
Speaker 1: on end, and he played extremely well, very well, the
27:21
Speaker 1: tight end whisper they called him, or he called himself. Yes,
27:23
Speaker 1: I thought he played very well. So I think I
27:25
Speaker 1: think it's a little bit of a stretch to say that, Okay,
27:29
Speaker 1: we can release to Shaun Gibson and put Jared Wilson
27:31
Speaker 1: in that role will be fine. I'm talking overalls a
27:36
Speaker 1: defense that might change how you defend and you might
27:39
Speaker 1: not be able to play as much. Man's to tight ends.
27:43
Speaker 1: By the way, a bunch of teams have safeties that
27:46
Speaker 1: are not great. But that's that's what makes to Shaun
27:49
Speaker 1: Gibson a good player. I'm not saying you missed my point.
27:51
Speaker 1: I don't think they're gonn bringing back for the number, Yes, Marcella,
27:55
Speaker 1: I'm not he's a good player. If you could bring
27:57
Speaker 1: him back at a different number, because that's always a possibility.
28:01
Speaker 1: What's the number that would you would be? I would
28:03
Speaker 1: have to look market. Mean, it's not great market, it's
28:07
Speaker 1: very soft. Listen. This is where you have to have
28:10
Speaker 1: the bigger context of the overall cap situation, which I
28:12
Speaker 1: don't have with my hands around for our team. Alright,
28:14
Speaker 1: So cap number estimated to be around twelve for marcel Um,
28:21
Speaker 1: I think you need him back because I think he
28:23
Speaker 1: help makes you a much better run defense team. UM.
28:26
Speaker 1: I think you can probably get him at it. I
28:28
Speaker 1: think you can go to him and restructure it. That's
28:31
Speaker 1: an interesting thing. That's I might be dead wrong. Marcella
28:34
Speaker 1: might be like, no, But my guess is, if Marcella
28:36
Speaker 1: goes out in the free agency right now, what's he
28:38
Speaker 1: gonna get paid? That's that's a great question. And he
28:42
Speaker 1: likes it here and he likes you, So I think
28:44
Speaker 1: you can go to and say, listen, let's find a
28:45
Speaker 1: deal that you're happy with and we're happy with. And
28:47
Speaker 1: so that's one of the first things I would do.
28:49
Speaker 1: Could you do that with two sean? Uh? Yeah, I
28:53
Speaker 1: think if you try to, But you it goes into
28:55
Speaker 1: the overall picture. You have to cut some people for
28:57
Speaker 1: cap space. You have interest team. What is the start?
29:01
Speaker 1: When is what is the March nine? First league years?
29:06
Speaker 1: There's a window that week where teams can negotiate for
29:09
Speaker 1: a couple of days. Is the first day of four
29:15
Speaker 1: o'clock Eastern. So but you have to look at the
29:17
Speaker 1: whole thing. So we go back to the quarterback in
29:19
Speaker 1: the offenses, because I think this defense will be good.
29:21
Speaker 1: So you're like, listen, we want to like if you
29:23
Speaker 1: just look at this past year, if we could have
29:24
Speaker 1: just got one or two more stops on defense and
29:26
Speaker 1: scored just a handful more points, you're probably fighting for
29:30
Speaker 1: the division in December which is a whole different story. Um,
29:34
Speaker 1: I mean, I'll go back to that Chief's game. This
29:38
Speaker 1: team allowed the least amount of points to the Chiefs
29:40
Speaker 1: offense all year. That's a fact. Yeah, no, it's trust me,
29:47
Speaker 1: it's a I get it. I get it, and I
29:50
Speaker 1: realized that. But still it was one of those things
29:52
Speaker 1: where did they stop the Chiefs? Jeff it was Jeff nothing.
29:59
Speaker 1: We get a turn and over and we have the
30:00
Speaker 1: ball inside their territory. We got down there thirteen nothing
30:05
Speaker 1: and couldn't score, went out on downs. Jacks were over
30:09
Speaker 1: five in the red zone. We were over five in
30:10
Speaker 1: the red zone. I'm just telling you right now, and
30:12
Speaker 1: we threw a pick six. If you have any offense,
30:16
Speaker 1: it's a different game. That was one of the worst
30:19
Speaker 1: offensive game plans I've ever seen. Agreed, and so um
30:24
Speaker 1: and so with that said, now you have to help
30:26
Speaker 1: on the edges. She's kidding me. So you start looking
30:30
Speaker 1: at you said, all right, defensively, not that we can
30:33
Speaker 1: just stay status quo. We need to We need the
30:34
Speaker 1: restruction when you do some things need some depthit, linebacker.
30:37
Speaker 1: There's things we need to do, no doubt about it.
30:39
Speaker 1: By the way, and you do that in the secondary
30:41
Speaker 1: free agent market. Did did we did? I think we did.
30:44
Speaker 1: But it was amazing watching the Patriots play the Kansas
30:48
Speaker 1: City Chiefs, and the Patriots game plan against the Chiefs
30:53
Speaker 1: sifted every every snap. They helped on the edges every play.
30:57
Speaker 1: I was there. It was very Obviously we were kind
31:00
Speaker 1: of expecting that in week three, Jeff, you're on the
31:04
Speaker 1: bus ride. What I tell you? On the bus ride? Yeah,
31:06
Speaker 1: what do we talk about? We talked about it all ways.
31:07
Speaker 1: I said, we said better, but on the bus ride
31:09
Speaker 1: we said we better. Chick didn't do it anyways. So
31:12
Speaker 1: then you are looking at it. So and now that
31:15
Speaker 1: this is where Nick Foles becomes interesting, because he's clearly
31:17
Speaker 1: the best quarterback in the market. And you say, and
31:21
Speaker 1: it starts with are we in love with any of
31:23
Speaker 1: the rookies? And let's say we're lukewarm. We're not sure.
31:26
Speaker 1: I think there's a lot of unknowns of that group
31:28
Speaker 1: always is sure. I mean unless there's an Andrew lock
31:31
Speaker 1: or something like that. But there's a lot of unknowns.
31:34
Speaker 1: And so you look at and say, then you have
31:35
Speaker 1: to go to free but we need playmakers. So if
31:37
Speaker 1: we get Nick Foles, we just can't do anything and
31:40
Speaker 1: so now I start the evaluation process. Let me look
31:42
Speaker 1: into free agency. What is it? What is going to
31:44
Speaker 1: become available in free agency? Not much on the offense side.
31:47
Speaker 1: There there's a lot of names on lists right now,
31:51
Speaker 1: might not be there fair enough. What is the list?
31:55
Speaker 1: Let's start with wide receivers. Golden Tape could be out there,
31:59
Speaker 1: Larry for Gerald's getting up there, Adam Humphries, Tyrelle Williams,
32:05
Speaker 1: donte moncreased number five. Okay, Tyrolle Williams a good player.
32:11
Speaker 1: Not much, but Tyro Williams a good player. He's the
32:13
Speaker 1: third receiver, second third receiver in UH with the Chargers.
32:20
Speaker 1: Get Randall Cobb try to get him a couple of
32:22
Speaker 1: years ago, and like a guy like that. My point
32:25
Speaker 1: is you have to look at it and say, can
32:27
Speaker 1: we can we can we add enough weapons? And then
32:30
Speaker 1: also in the draft tight end on that list, JP
32:33
Speaker 1: you what do you have from tight ends? Tyler Eifford
32:36
Speaker 1: hurt all the time, Jared Cooks a good player, Max Williams,
32:41
Speaker 1: Jeff Herman, No, I mean, they're okay, there's guys. But
32:45
Speaker 1: the way it is, that's to be free agency. So
32:47
Speaker 1: you have to look at it and say, then you
32:49
Speaker 1: have to go to the draft and say, what are
32:50
Speaker 1: the what's what? What can we draft at the skill position,
32:53
Speaker 1: the offensive line because I'm not gonna go pay fifty
32:57
Speaker 1: million dollars or forty five million guaranteed over two years
33:00
Speaker 1: if I can't build around Nick Foles and give him
33:03
Speaker 1: the opportunity of success. And so you have to you
33:09
Speaker 1: have to lay out your entire game plan before you
33:11
Speaker 1: get into free agency and say what are we And
33:13
Speaker 1: that's it. Now with the coaches understanding what are we
33:16
Speaker 1: gonna do? What? What do we are? Let me let
33:19
Speaker 1: me say this, the roster is what it was last year.
33:24
Speaker 1: Then there is a belief that this roster is good
33:27
Speaker 1: enough to win with. Okay, but Jeff, I'm just saying
33:31
Speaker 1: I'm not okay, but stop saying that. Is that I mean?
33:34
Speaker 1: Is that something you believe? Look if last year that
33:38
Speaker 1: you go into the season, which the Jaguars did with
33:41
Speaker 1: black Portals at quarterback and with the receiver group that
33:45
Speaker 1: they had and the tiding group that they had, they
33:48
Speaker 1: believed that they could win with that group. So let's
33:51
Speaker 1: let's review that. Let's go through that, Okay, because I'm
33:55
Speaker 1: not gonna be a hypocrite. So did. I but based
33:58
Speaker 1: on this, based on we thought Blake Bortles were gonna
34:02
Speaker 1: getting better, he did not. We thought Keelan Cole was
34:05
Speaker 1: gonna pick up where he left off as a rookie
34:07
Speaker 1: and get better. He was worse the second year. You
34:09
Speaker 1: expect the biggest improvement from a first year player to
34:12
Speaker 1: the second year always the big job did not happen.
34:15
Speaker 1: We thought the tight end position, we disagreed with getting
34:17
Speaker 1: rid of Mercedes, but we thought Safari and Jenkins was
34:20
Speaker 1: going to be a dual threat guy. In in early
34:22
Speaker 1: No t A, it looked good. He got hurt. We
34:25
Speaker 1: thought the offensive line would be really good addition to Orl.
34:28
Speaker 1: We thought Cam would take the next step and improve.
34:32
Speaker 1: He didn't, and then he got hurt, and then he
34:35
Speaker 1: got hurt. We thought we had Marquis Lee make this,
34:39
Speaker 1: and I don't know if he's gonna be what's he
34:42
Speaker 1: gonna be. He had a major knee injury. I don't
34:44
Speaker 1: know if he's gonna be ready. Well, he's gonna be back,
34:45
Speaker 1: and that's a big question. But the running back situation, um,
34:49
Speaker 1: I thought there was cruiser. I mean, I think we
34:51
Speaker 1: had some concerns going in, but I certainly thought we'd
34:53
Speaker 1: get more production out of that group than we did.
34:56
Speaker 1: You think, and then you had injuries on top of that. So, Jeff,
34:59
Speaker 1: it's fit. It's always easy play, you know, armchair carrot
35:02
Speaker 1: quarterback and kill the front office. But it's not fair
35:05
Speaker 1: because all of us sat here thinking that was the case.
35:08
Speaker 1: But now you have to look back. But but now,
35:11
Speaker 1: but Jeff, now you have to look back and say,
35:13
Speaker 1: wait a second. Okay, now this roster Marquis Lee major
35:17
Speaker 1: knee injury. Not sure we're gonna get We can't count
35:19
Speaker 1: on that. Keelan Cole proved showed us that he did
35:23
Speaker 1: not get better. He's not a guy we can count on.
35:25
Speaker 1: We now don't have a tight end because Farren Jenkins
35:28
Speaker 1: got hurt and didn't work out the way he did. Okay,
35:30
Speaker 1: that's an issue. We know we have major issues at
35:34
Speaker 1: the running back position. And so do you do you
35:39
Speaker 1: have major issues at the running back? I mean, I
35:41
Speaker 1: think we do. What do you go? Corey Grant had
35:45
Speaker 1: an injury foot injury, right foot injuries and running backs
35:50
Speaker 1: you worry about. I don't know the extent of it,
35:52
Speaker 1: and listen, but there is a there is a I
35:58
Speaker 1: don't want to say there's a if you it down
36:00
Speaker 1: there s no. I mean, they're their opinion as changed
36:03
Speaker 1: as it does obviously from year to year, but I
36:05
Speaker 1: think there's also a belief that, look, there is something
36:09
Speaker 1: there with someone. I'm not so I'm not even killing
36:11
Speaker 1: the front office, by the way, I'm not saying, but
36:13
Speaker 1: I'm not being critical with them at all, because it
36:15
Speaker 1: be unfair because we all sat here going into the
36:17
Speaker 1: preseason feeling pretty good about this team. But it was
36:20
Speaker 1: based on the quarterback getting better he didn't, and the
36:23
Speaker 1: other players taking a step and other players taken a
36:25
Speaker 1: step forward they didn't, and then injuries on top of that.
36:28
Speaker 1: So you have to scrap and now you have to
36:30
Speaker 1: read about everything and you look at this team now
36:32
Speaker 1: and I don't think offensively that we have very many
36:35
Speaker 1: strong opinions about very many players, And because that you
36:38
Speaker 1: have to build. And if you're gonna spend the money
36:41
Speaker 1: on Nick Foles because we feel like there's a window
36:43
Speaker 1: because of his defense, then you go you better figure
36:45
Speaker 1: out how to draft guys in those first three or
36:48
Speaker 1: four rounds are gonna be starters on this team this
36:50
Speaker 1: year on offense, and that's a bad position. But this
36:54
Speaker 1: is this I mean, but that's where you are. Let's
36:56
Speaker 1: come back. The assistant coaches are back in this. Let's
36:59
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Speaker 1: When you look around, you might feel pride is in
37:27
Speaker 1: short supply. Of these days, everything is being disrupted. But
37:31
Speaker 1: Ford has been around for a hundred and fifteen years
37:34
Speaker 1: and we know the only constant is changed. So disruption, Yeah,
37:38
Speaker 1: it's what we do every day. You see. We still
37:41
Speaker 1: take pride in what we build and how we build.
37:44
Speaker 1: We even take pride in taking pride, and the world
37:47
Speaker 1: could use more of that right now, because if you
37:49
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Speaker 1: That's great. Assistant coaches back, Jeff, you want you won
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Speaker 1: the fantasy football this year? I did? I want the picks?
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Speaker 1: Would you win? JP? Nothing? Oh you? Oh? I want
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41:42
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41:55
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Speaker 1: And here's here's my question. And this is interesting because
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Speaker 1: that already understood a terminology. Do you know you change
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Speaker 1: it all you get a new quarterback, change the whole thing,
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Speaker 1: the whole thing, so all the players, everybody's got to learn,
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Speaker 1: three and new offensive coaches. I'm I'm with you. Part
42:40
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42:44
Speaker 1: then evaluating college players and also the veteran guys. You
42:48
Speaker 1: gotta have the book and all that ready, I mean
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42:55
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43:35
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43:38
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43:43
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43:44
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43:51
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43:56
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43:58
Speaker 1: back together and the time think they had. I think
44:01
Speaker 1: the Jaguars sentence had a little bit of time off
44:04
Speaker 1: two weeks. I think, so good for them. I mean
44:06
Speaker 1: that they work hard. Yeah, they work, work a lot
44:08
Speaker 1: of hours. The number one thing they're doing is find
44:11
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44:13
Speaker 1: that because he's offensive coordinare I mean, that is the
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44:19
Speaker 1: coach you're gonna have together. I mean, that is the
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44:40
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44:43
Speaker 1: again next year. I mean, that's that's I mean, and
44:46
Speaker 1: I don't want that to happen to anyone. I mean,
44:49
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44:53
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44:54
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Speaker 1: three Patriots with a thirteen to three win over the Rams.
49:55
Speaker 1: A defensive gem by the Patriots, but you were there. Um,
50:00
Speaker 1: I thought that the difference in this football game. For
50:03
Speaker 1: let me stay talking about the losing team. First, Wade
50:06
Speaker 1: Phillips had a great game play defense. They did a
50:09
Speaker 1: really good job. I made a really good job. Um,
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50:14
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50:16
Speaker 1: plays was just a huge difference in favor of the Rams,
50:20
Speaker 1: which I think went a long way to determined this game.
50:21
Speaker 1: Because I think I don't want to say Sean. He
50:23
Speaker 1: didn't panic, but I think he got impatient because they
50:27
Speaker 1: had so few opportunities that they got away from the
50:29
Speaker 1: run game. And because of that, um, the the front
50:35
Speaker 1: seven or let's say the front four, uh of the Patriots,
50:40
Speaker 1: the game plan they had to pressure Golf was outstanding.
50:43
Speaker 1: They they twisted, they moved, they moved Vanoy and High
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Speaker 1: Tower all over the place. They got a lot of
50:50
Speaker 1: free rushes. It wasn't because I mean some were beating
50:53
Speaker 1: guys one on one, but a lot of it was
50:54
Speaker 1: the twist game. And Golf got hit almost every play
50:58
Speaker 1: and it's hard and everyone's critic fool of him, and
51:01
Speaker 1: yes he could have played better, but man, when you
51:03
Speaker 1: getta hit like that, I mean it was almost every
51:04
Speaker 1: players in the field of like, my goodness. And that
51:08
Speaker 1: was as good of a defensive game plan by the
51:10
Speaker 1: Patriots I've seen. And here, and here's the thing, it
51:13
Speaker 1: wasn't just something that came out of the blue. Throughout
51:15
Speaker 1: the playoffs. I mean they did that look good as
51:18
Speaker 1: you get well. During the playoffs, they did a bunch
51:20
Speaker 1: of stuff where they were twisting, they used the game's
51:23
Speaker 1: a ton of it tells you how good Patrick ma
51:25
Speaker 1: Holmes is here one of the one of the most
51:27
Speaker 1: amazing stats after doing the game, THEFT Championship game. So
51:31
Speaker 1: they were shut out in the first half and the
51:33
Speaker 1: play differential was ninety four to forty seven Patriots to
51:36
Speaker 1: the in the game. In the game in the second
51:39
Speaker 1: half the page the Chiefs had twenty eight plays. They
51:42
Speaker 1: scored thirty one, pays more than a point of play.
51:46
Speaker 1: I mean, I mean, which is crazy. That's how good
51:49
Speaker 1: that kid is and that almost won the football game.
51:51
Speaker 1: Um uh, but yeah, I thought the defensive game was great,
51:55
Speaker 1: and I think and McVeigh said it afterwards he didn't
51:58
Speaker 1: do a great job calm that it wasn't a great
51:59
Speaker 1: game called by him. I really thought they should have
52:02
Speaker 1: stuck with Gurly and c. J. Anderson earlier running. They
52:05
Speaker 1: should have tried to with with either one of them,
52:07
Speaker 1: because you know what, Tony, I've been hearing all this
52:09
Speaker 1: stuff and talk about, oh you god, they should have
52:11
Speaker 1: given Gurley the ball more. You either want show well,
52:14
Speaker 1: here's the thing, show me what Gurle did that was
52:16
Speaker 1: so good in the playoffs that would warrant you wanting
52:18
Speaker 1: to give him more touches. Anyway, Well, he had one
52:20
Speaker 1: real run the start of the second half, they ran inside.
52:23
Speaker 1: But but you have to go to it Gurley in
52:25
Speaker 1: the playoffs, not the Todd Gurley of the first eight
52:28
Speaker 1: weeks of the season. Forget the name of whoever running.
52:32
Speaker 1: They had to run the ball more. And I said
52:34
Speaker 1: that it was actually one of the keys in the game,
52:36
Speaker 1: is like, if the Rams can't run the ball, they're
52:38
Speaker 1: gonna lose. Because everything is built off the playoffstion pass
52:41
Speaker 1: for them. And I don't know if they're great on
52:45
Speaker 1: a great individual offensive linement, but they're a really good
52:48
Speaker 1: unit together and the water and it's really good off
52:51
Speaker 1: the play action passed and they couldn't get that going,
52:53
Speaker 1: so I made it made it difficult. And the everything
52:56
Speaker 1: that Patriots did is they ran a true overfront with
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Speaker 1: one linebacker and both the will and the sand walked.
53:02
Speaker 1: It was like old school, and they dropped its safety
53:05
Speaker 1: in the box. And what they did is they forced
53:07
Speaker 1: one on one blocks the two gaps and forced one
53:10
Speaker 1: on one situations with the offensive line of the Rams,
53:14
Speaker 1: and the Patriots won those one of once and that
53:16
Speaker 1: was a big difference. I thought it was really well
53:18
Speaker 1: done um and and the Rams did not win down
53:23
Speaker 1: field enough because there was a couple opportunities that Brandon
53:27
Speaker 1: Cooks had plays that he cooed he didn't make well,
53:29
Speaker 1: he missed him. But then he also he dropped some opportunity.
53:32
Speaker 1: But the big one was I mean in the third quarter,
53:34
Speaker 1: they run a lot over route with a post a
53:36
Speaker 1: lot on top of it, and both guys run after
53:38
Speaker 1: the overroute and Brandon Cooks is sitting by itself and
53:41
Speaker 1: it was an unbelievable play by Jason McCardy because he's
53:43
Speaker 1: the backside corner covering somebody and which was not his
53:47
Speaker 1: responsibility to the ball in the air and takes off
53:50
Speaker 1: and makes an amazing play. But if Goff sees it
53:53
Speaker 1: through his progression on time, it's easy touchdown. Maybe that
53:58
Speaker 1: seven three at that point to that that that they showed. Uh,
54:02
Speaker 1: Tony Romo pointed out, I thought very astute lee and
54:06
Speaker 1: he got a deep end that Jared Goff had didn't
54:09
Speaker 1: even take a look. But part of it was he's
54:11
Speaker 1: getting hit. He's getting hit every play. He's a young quarterback.
54:15
Speaker 1: I don't care, I listen, I will go down now.
54:17
Speaker 1: It's just reality down to stretch anyway. I don't disagree
54:20
Speaker 1: with that, but you guess what we've seen. Super Bowls
54:22
Speaker 1: were the greatest of all time. Tom Brady lost two
54:24
Speaker 1: games against the Giants, and the big reason they lost
54:26
Speaker 1: is because he was getting hit every play and all
54:28
Speaker 1: of a sudden, it's hard to be effective when you'
54:30
Speaker 1: getting hit all the time, and tom Brady wasn't at
54:32
Speaker 1: his best, but boy, when it counted, he he was
54:34
Speaker 1: able to do it. And credit Josh McDaniels for the
54:36
Speaker 1: slight change of the game plan there at the end.
54:39
Speaker 1: But the difference of that game personnel. Yeah, but the
54:41
Speaker 1: difference that game was the offensive lines, because the Patriots
54:44
Speaker 1: offensive line was outstanding running the ball, their physical and
54:48
Speaker 1: one of my favorite players that no one will talk about.
54:50
Speaker 1: When I went up to the Joe Tuney after the
54:52
Speaker 1: game and told him how impressed that was. On the
54:55
Speaker 1: past to ground, like most of the game, they doubled
54:58
Speaker 1: Aaron Donald, but they didn't double every player like a
55:01
Speaker 1: lot of teams do. And on the biggest play of
55:04
Speaker 1: the game, when they threw the seam route to gron
55:07
Speaker 1: there's a great throw and a great by the way,
55:10
Speaker 1: just real quick before you go into what he did
55:13
Speaker 1: up front, it was it was big personnel, but it
55:16
Speaker 1: was spread. So when you definitely it was twenty one
55:19
Speaker 1: personel spread out. Yeah, so when you go spread, you
55:21
Speaker 1: really are limited on how much you can double with
55:25
Speaker 1: your with your offensive line on the inside. And so
55:28
Speaker 1: and so I was watching Aaron Donald most of the
55:30
Speaker 1: game just because he's fascinating. He's such a good player.
55:32
Speaker 1: And on that play, Tuney is one on one and
55:36
Speaker 1: Donald has a two waygo and it was I mean
55:41
Speaker 1: it was. It was textbook technique and execution. And and
55:47
Speaker 1: I went up to I said, man, no one's gonna
55:49
Speaker 1: talk about this, but just so you know, one offensive
55:51
Speaker 1: to another one, I was watching you. And the reason
55:54
Speaker 1: that play was successful as you block the best defensive
55:56
Speaker 1: linement football one on one. And that's not easy. Because
56:00
Speaker 1: watched Aaron Donalds at the year when he got one
56:01
Speaker 1: on one, he was winning about clip at least and
56:05
Speaker 1: tune He did a great job. I thought, Jack Mason,
56:07
Speaker 1: they had probably each a handful of one of ones.
56:09
Speaker 1: Now out of the eighties snaps wherever they had seventy snaps,
56:12
Speaker 1: majority of time Aaron Donald was double team. I mean
56:15
Speaker 1: SCARNECKI other offensive line coaches and is mart Manning. But
56:21
Speaker 1: I give those guys credit man. They won and uh
56:24
Speaker 1: they really nified the best. But I mean he wasn't
56:26
Speaker 1: a factor in that game. Get a couple of pressures,
56:29
Speaker 1: but not a factor. Let's get to our pick results
56:31
Speaker 1: this season. Shocker, we all picked the Patriots and shocker,
56:35
Speaker 1: Tony Boselli is the regular season and the postseason that
56:39
Speaker 1: was domination. Bo was seven and four in playoff fixed
56:44
Speaker 1: logs six and five. I was awful forward seven. Why
56:47
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56:51
Speaker 1: I picked? Still, because didn't you like ten points or
56:53
Speaker 1: something for the playoffs? Yeah? You know, but I knew
56:56
Speaker 1: the Rams were gonna win. Yeah, that's why I picked
56:59
Speaker 1: the Patriots. Well, I mean, I thought the Patriots are
57:01
Speaker 1: gonna win still games here, but the uh, you know
57:06
Speaker 1: the I thought it was a high scoring game. I
57:08
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Speaker 1: super Bowl in the history ever game which is But
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Speaker 1: didn't I mean, did anyone see that coming after the
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Speaker 1: way the Patriots are scoring? No, no, no, no, no no.
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Speaker 1: But the Rams are capable. But I will say this,
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Speaker 1: I'm a I'm a defensive guy. And I like good
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Speaker 1: defensive battles, but that was just kind of boring. So
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Speaker 1: it was a boring on the side. Anything different on
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Speaker 1: the I was on the sidelines and at one point
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Speaker 1: my producer looked at me, it's like, what do you think.
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Speaker 1: I'm like, I think I needed a cup of coffee
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Speaker 1: and sleep. Yeah. It was like there was It wasn't
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Speaker 1: just a defensive There was no big place, because a
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Speaker 1: good defensive matchups will have big places, bigfense and defense something.
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Speaker 1: There wasn't even a replay, there was like nothing happened
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Speaker 1: kind you know what it looked like. It honestly, it
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Speaker 1: looked like almost an early season game between two teams
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Speaker 1: that really haven't found something like that. But I'll say
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Speaker 1: this overall, how much time to uh? I thought it
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Speaker 1: was a great NFL season. Oh yeah, I thought that
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Speaker 1: one of the best, great matchups, very entertaining, and I
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Speaker 1: was really worried about it. And we go back in
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Speaker 1: the preseason because this new tackling rule, I thought they
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Speaker 1: were going to ruin the game. I mean, I'm seriously
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Speaker 1: was like, this is gonna be awful, a flag fest.
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Speaker 1: We're gonna falling. You guys were worried about it. I
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Speaker 1: mean I was worried. He was a minute. Let's just
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Speaker 1: see all and you know what. I was wrong? And
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Speaker 1: it was a great season. It was a fabulous season.
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Speaker 1: Um for football. Final thought here, Alliance of American Football
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Speaker 1: starts this weekend. Will you guys watch what is that?
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Speaker 1: What channels it on? It's on CBS Saturday night. Who's
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Speaker 1: in that? There's eight teams? It's like a do we
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Speaker 1: have any any is there anyone I'll know? Like players
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Speaker 1: I've been since playing for Atlanta? Let me let me
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Speaker 1: ask you this. I will probably how many players on
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Speaker 1: an NFL roster right now? Uh? With practice squad? I
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Speaker 1: think that's over sixt Okay, right now? No, you can
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Speaker 1: have a diney right now, right now? Okay, okay, So
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Speaker 1: if there's ninety on an NFL team, who's playing in
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Speaker 1: this Bernardo Robins, Well, now there's the excess a lot
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Speaker 1: of I will talk that as a no, I'll watch it.
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Speaker 1: I'll watch. I'll watch, uh seven go to the same
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Speaker 1: chance of me watching that as I will me watching
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Speaker 1: the Pro Bowl? Him the silly. Next week, it's Jaguars
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