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What The AP Top-25 Says About The Dominance Of The SEC And Big Ten · Buckeyes TomOrrow Morning

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  Speaker 1: Welcome to Buckeyes Tomorrow Morning for Wednesday, August nineteenth, time
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  Speaker 1: on today's show, we're going to take a look at
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  Speaker 1: the preseason AP Top twenty five and what that might
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  Speaker 1: tell us about what people are expecting for the college
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  Speaker 1: football Playoff this year. And boy, it might look a
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  Speaker 1: little different and a whole lot of leagues might not
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  Speaker 1: have a lot of participation if they are if things
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  Speaker 1: play out the way the AP voters are joining or
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  Speaker 1: are expecting.
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  Speaker 2: Tony Gurdaman of Buckeye Insiders joins me.
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  Speaker 1: Today, Tony, we did a show kind of breaking down
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  Speaker 1: on the Buckeye Weekly Feed, breaking down some of the
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  Speaker 1: AP Top twenty five.
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  Speaker 2: But I'll throw this up this graphic real quick.
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  Speaker 1: For people just to just so they can see what
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  Speaker 1: we're working with here in terms of the AP top
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  Speaker 1: twenty five, number one, Ohio State, number two, Oregon number three, Georgia,
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  Speaker 1: number four, Notre Dame number five, Texas, number six, Indiana
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  Speaker 1: number seven, Miami, number eight, Texas A and m number nine, Ole,
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  Speaker 1: miss number ten Oklahoma. Here's where the cut line is
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  Speaker 1: because number eleven LSU spoiler alert, not going to make
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  Speaker 1: the playoff. Because number twelve Texas Tech. They are the
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  Speaker 1: top Big twelve teams, so they would make the playoff.
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  Speaker 1: Here also missing the cut number thirteen Alabama, USC BYU, Michigan, Washington,
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  Speaker 1: Penn State, SMU, Tennessee, Utah, Iowa, Houston, Louisville, and Missouri.
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  Speaker 1: The last team that would be making it here is
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  Speaker 1: Boise State. They would be the non power group of
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  Speaker 1: the group of five or group of six, whatever it
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  Speaker 1: is right now representative here. And you look at the
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  Speaker 1: whole bracket now and it's just it really jumps out
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  Speaker 1: to you that number eleven Texas Tech, number seven, Miami,
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  Speaker 1: number twelve, Boise State.
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  Speaker 2: That's it.
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  Speaker 1: Nine of the twelve teams in the playoff from the
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  Speaker 1: Big ten and the SEC.
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  Speaker 2: And Notre Dame.
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  Speaker 3: But yeah, but your point still remains, there is a
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  Speaker 3: big time lack of representation from conferences that consider themselves
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  Speaker 3: powerful conferences. And you look at this and it's it's
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  Speaker 3: almost SEC versus Big Ten. The Super League is already
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  Speaker 3: here and you can't avoid matchups between conference foes in
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  Speaker 3: this and yeah, it's it is what it is with
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  Speaker 3: the Big twelve. Frankly, you would expect more from the ACC,
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  Speaker 3: but they've been down as well, and it is it
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  Speaker 3: is alarming, like the ACC needs to get needs to
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  Speaker 3: get Notre Dame now if they want to remain have
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  Speaker 3: any kind of relevance, because hanging all of your hopes
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  Speaker 3: on Miami kind of dangerous.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, it is. It is kind of dangerous.
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  Speaker 1: And I think the other thing that really jumps out
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  Speaker 1: is it's not like the ACC and Big twelve have
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  Speaker 1: a bunch of teams that are right on the cusp
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  Speaker 1: and oh they just missed this year. Because the top
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  Speaker 1: teams that missed are number eleven, LSU SEC team, number thirteen,
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  Speaker 1: Alabama SEC team, number fourteen, USC Big ten team. They
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  Speaker 1: are tied with number fourteen BYU that is a Big
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  Speaker 1: twelve team. But then behind them Michigan, Washington, Penn State.
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  Speaker 1: The first ACC team to miss out is SMU. They're nineteenth.
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  Speaker 1: They are not just barely missing the cut. They are
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  Speaker 1: probably not showing up on those graphics on those Tuesday
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  Speaker 1: evening ESPN College Football playoff shows. And then behind them
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  Speaker 1: Tennessee and then Utah and Iowa and Houston and Louisville, Missouri.
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  Speaker 1: Like you've got some representation at the very bottom of
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  Speaker 1: the pole. But those are not teams that are just
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  Speaker 1: barely missing. The other thing that's a little weird here is,
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  Speaker 1: unless I am miscounting something, there are three Big Ten
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  Speaker 1: teams in the field Ohio State number one, Oregon, number two,
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  Speaker 1: Indiana and number six, but then a bunch of Big
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  Speaker 1: Ten teams just missing out on the field. So you know,
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  Speaker 1: if the Big Ten only gets three teams into the
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  Speaker 1: field this year, but it gets number one and number two,
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  Speaker 1: is that a good season for the Big Ten? Does
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  Speaker 1: that prove what everyone says about the Big Ten that
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  Speaker 1: they're great at the top and not very good below that? Like,
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  Speaker 1: what's the what's the takeaway if it plays out like this?
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  Speaker 3: Well, I guess if your hope is that Dan Landing
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  Speaker 3: runs through the playoffs, you might be a little disappointed.
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  Speaker 3: But if the Big Ten, if they get three in
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  Speaker 3: and those three teams win as many as the SEC
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  Speaker 3: has been doing like or as many as the SEC
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  Speaker 3: wins in this, then I think it further can you know,
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  Speaker 3: further proves the the Big ten's top heavy power right now?
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  Speaker 3: But also shouldn't that where's the trickle down for the
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  Speaker 3: Big Ten? They're like they have in the SEC, where
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  Speaker 3: the top of the SEC has always been so good,
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  Speaker 3: and so that just means everybody else below them is
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  Speaker 3: good as well, because the top teams would also play
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  Speaker 3: good close games against the middle teams. And you look
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  Speaker 3: at this and as we know, preseason rankings on the
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  Speaker 3: SEC are chocolate and peanut butter. They go together so well.
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  Speaker 3: You don't want to have too much of it though,
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  Speaker 3: And this one I think is going to call for
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  Speaker 3: a little bit of an upset stomach. When you're talking
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  Speaker 3: about A and M and ol Miss and Oklahoma. I
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  Speaker 3: can see all three of those teams missing out on
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  Speaker 3: the playoffs because they'll have three or four losses. This
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  Speaker 3: to me comes down to which of the conferences will
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  Speaker 3: have more three loss teams in and which conference is
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  Speaker 3: viewed as being better, because then that benefit of the
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  Speaker 3: doubt is going to benefit one or two or three
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  Speaker 3: of those three loss teams I think this year.
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  Speaker 1: One other thing that's fascinating about this year is if
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  Speaker 1: you look at the ap pole, there are lots of
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  Speaker 1: SEC teams in the top ten Georgia, Texas, Texas A
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  Speaker 1: and m Ole, miss Oklahoma LSU's eleven. So that's six
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  Speaker 1: of the top eleven teams in the poll are from
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  Speaker 1: the SEC cumulatively total, including them including every other SEC
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  Speaker 1: team including Mississippi state zero first place votes this year,
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  Speaker 1: it just it is wild how much it feels like
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  Speaker 1: there is a sense that the balance of power at
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  Speaker 1: the very very top of the sport has swung away
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  Speaker 1: from the SEC. And boy, given that, and given the
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  Speaker 1: fact that I'm sure Greg Sank would sure love that
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  Speaker 1: not to be the narrative again at the start of
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  Speaker 1: next season, and she would love for Tony Petiti to
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  Speaker 1: not be standing next to four consecutive national championship trophies
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  Speaker 1: at Big ten media Days in twenty twenty seven, Boy,
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  Speaker 1: you look at the Texas versus Notre Dame potential quarterfinal match,
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  Speaker 1: or the Texas A and m versus Ole Miss winner
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  Speaker 1: playing Ohio State or Oklahoma potentially playing Oregon or Indiana,
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  Speaker 1: potentially playing Georgia. And it's like, boy, oh boy, that
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  Speaker 1: New Year's Eve, New Year's Day would go a long, long,
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  Speaker 1: long way towards shaping the narrative of conference superiority for
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  Speaker 1: the next twelve or so months.
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  Speaker 3: And I think that's one of the more entertaining things
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  Speaker 3: of the twelve team playoff is you you can have
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  Speaker 3: more of a legitimate narrative because when it's just the
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  Speaker 3: bowl games, it's when the SEC wins, it's because well,
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  Speaker 3: that just tells you how much better the SEC is.
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  Speaker 3: When they lose, it's because they weren't interested. You could
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  Speaker 3: tell they just they didn't care because it wasn't it's
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  Speaker 3: just a ballgame, and the interest wasn't there. The interest
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  Speaker 3: for the playoffs are here, and so there are no
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  Speaker 3: excuses other than who is the better team that day.
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  Speaker 3: And I'm looking at this and I think eventually, if
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  Speaker 3: say the Big Ten wins it again this year and
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  Speaker 3: wins it again next year, the narrative from the SEC
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  Speaker 3: will be they'll be measuring like, well, look how many
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  Speaker 3: teams we've the SEC has had more teams in the
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  Speaker 3: playoffs than anybody else. And even with those more those teams,
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  Speaker 3: the Big Ten, I think it's still way out pacing
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  Speaker 3: them in playoff wins, certainly of the twelve team era.
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  Speaker 3: But yeah, if the Big Ten wins it again this year, frankly,
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  Speaker 3: you're going to see some what other metrics? What other
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  Speaker 3: statistics can we use to show that the SEC is
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  Speaker 3: certainly still the best conference? And of course you do
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  Speaker 3: that by measuring all of the middle of the conference.
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  Speaker 3: As we know, it's the best way to know which
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  Speaker 3: conference's best by choosing and comparing the ninth place team
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  Speaker 3: in each conference.
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  Speaker 1: Well, unless I'm forgetting something, can you tell me the
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  Speaker 1: last time an SEC team beat a Big Ten team
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  Speaker 1: in the College football Playoff?
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  Speaker 3: Is it going to be Georgia over Ohio State.
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  Speaker 1: That's the last one I can think of, because I
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  Speaker 1: know they didn't do it in twenty twenty three, And
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  Speaker 1: if you take the current Big Ten roster, the Big
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  Speaker 1: Ten went to a zero against the SEC in the
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  Speaker 1: semi finals that year because it was Michigan and Washington,
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  Speaker 1: and then Ohio State stomped a couple, stumped Tennessee and
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  Speaker 1: beat Texas.
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  Speaker 2: In twenty twenty.
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  Speaker 1: Four, and yeah, even last year, you look at the
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  Speaker 1: teams the SEC's beaten, they've either beaten other SEC teams,
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  Speaker 1: or they've beaten nonpower teams, or they beat you know, congratulations,
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  Speaker 1: you beat Arizona State in overtime in the Peach Bowl
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  Speaker 1: one year.
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  Speaker 2: But yeah, there's there's.
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  Speaker 1: Been a lot of thirty eight to three Indiana over
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  Speaker 1: Alabama in the monitors the last few years between those conferences.
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