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6 Things We Learned Talking To Ryan Day And Chip Kelly · Buckeyes TomOrrow Morning

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  Speaker 1: Hello, and welcome to a very special live episode of
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  Speaker 1: Buckeyes Tomorrow Morning for Wednesday, September eighteenth.
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  Speaker 2: I'm your host Tom Moore.
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  Speaker 1: The Marshall Game in just three days, the gam against
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  Speaker 1: Michigan in seventy three days. Joined by Tony Gurdham Here
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  Speaker 1: inside de Wite Hayes Athletic Center. Tony just got a
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  Speaker 1: chance to talk to Ohiosted head coach Ryan Day, Ohsted
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  Speaker 1: offensive cordator Trip Kelly, Ohistate quarterback Will Howard, and Ohistate
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  Speaker 1: women's hockey coach Nadie Mausrol. That will probably be a
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  Speaker 1: separate show, but if we're going to get a chance
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  Speaker 1: to talk too much about that here, But buck guys
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  Speaker 1: had their improvement week next last week now shifting back
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  Speaker 1: into game week mode, sounds like improvement week resulted in
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  Speaker 1: a bunch of improvements, including the prognosis for Ohio State
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  Speaker 1: offensive lineman Donovan Jackson.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, Donovan Jackson, good to go, uh pending anything else
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  Speaker 3: happening this week, which is true of all of us.
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  Speaker 3: That's the key there. But he said they wanted him
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  Speaker 3: to have a full week last week, which he did,
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  Speaker 3: full week this week, and now they consider fullgo, ready
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  Speaker 3: to go. Don't need to ease him in there. Obviously,
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  Speaker 3: he's a two year starter. He's experienced, set it and
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  Speaker 3: forget it, and I just find find a way to
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  Speaker 3: also play Austin Siraveld, which is going to be a
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  Speaker 3: process that do you think it happens in the course
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  Speaker 3: of the first half or something like that, or do
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  Speaker 3: you how do you what's the best way to do this,
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  Speaker 3: because they still need to do it the right way.
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  Speaker 3: You can't just do it willy.
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  Speaker 1: Nilly right, and they have to get Donovan Jackson reps too.
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  Speaker 1: I think that's something that's going to be very important.
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  Speaker 1: You don't want to just give Donovan Jackson two drives
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  Speaker 1: and then say hey, you're fine, like you. You want
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  Speaker 1: to get him really in and in sync with the
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  Speaker 1: other guys. Someone brought up the idea of putting Austin
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  Speaker 1: Serveld in the Bison package, which is the sixth offensive
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  Speaker 1: lineman package.
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  Speaker 2: And over the years we've seen Donovan Jackson.
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  Speaker 1: Actually ironically started his career in the Bison package. Is
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  Speaker 1: that sixth offensive lineman. In twenty twenty one, we've seen
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  Speaker 1: Enig from Mahi in that role. We've seen Josh Fryer
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  Speaker 1: in that role, so you gery in that role last year. Yeah,
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  Speaker 1: so you've seen a bunch of different guys who ended
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  Speaker 1: up playing varying different roles in the offensive line later.
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  Speaker 1: That seems like the most logical approach to me, because
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  Speaker 1: you want to get You don't want to pull Donovan
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  Speaker 1: Jackson off the field for more reps because we know
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  Speaker 1: he was sort of limited throughout.
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  Speaker 2: Camp with this with this issue, and then missed a
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  Speaker 2: couple of weeks.
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  Speaker 1: He had a full week of practice last week, had
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  Speaker 1: you know, on track to have a full week of
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  Speaker 1: practice this week, so we should be fine. But still
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  Speaker 1: I don't think pulling him off the field makes a
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  Speaker 1: whole heck of a lot of sense right now.
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  Speaker 3: No, it will be interesting to see how they continue
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  Speaker 3: to develop this running game. We've seen the three tight
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  Speaker 3: ends last week. Do we see six offensive linemen this week?
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  Speaker 3: I think Michigan rand like seventeen plays of jumbo personnel.
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  Speaker 3: It's six offensive linemen this past week.
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  Speaker 2: How'd that go? Was it great? Was it amazing?
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  Speaker 3: There was first three hundred yards? So must but as
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  Speaker 3: this running game progresses and Chip Kelly adds new things
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  Speaker 3: to it, I wouldn't be shocked to see this become
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  Speaker 3: a new thing as well. But some point, Chip, I'm
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  Speaker 3: not trying to run the show for you. Chip Kelly
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  Speaker 3: was asked about you know, when do you know that
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  Speaker 3: the offense is set and like what you do? And
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  Speaker 3: he's like, you never want to just be okay, we're
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  Speaker 3: done right.
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  Speaker 2: This is not Ronco No.
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  Speaker 1: No.
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  Speaker 3: You keep developing and your opponent's change that changes what
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  Speaker 3: you do. Injuries, development, all of these things change. And
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  Speaker 3: I'm interested to see what the next step is for
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  Speaker 3: this running game because it's progressed each week. They were
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  Speaker 3: off last week kind of slowed things down. So what
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  Speaker 3: does it look like this week? Is it is there
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  Speaker 3: anything new or is it just more of what we've seen?
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  Speaker 1: You figure they're going to continue to iterate off of
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  Speaker 1: what you've seen, because you've seen a lot.
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  Speaker 2: But there's you're gonna just keep putting stuff on film.
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  Speaker 1: This is not this is not an opponent where they
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  Speaker 1: can just walk out there and just you're just going
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  Speaker 1: to run inside zone forty two times and that's gonna
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  Speaker 1: be fine. You're going to keep putting different stuff on film,
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  Speaker 1: keep showing different looks, keep coming up with different variations
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  Speaker 1: of the same looks, running the same play out of
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  Speaker 1: different formations. All that kind of stuff that's just sort
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  Speaker 1: of a natural part of the football season. One thing
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  Speaker 1: that I did want to ask you about, does well
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  Speaker 1: have you explained Ryan day he had his day off
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  Speaker 1: on Saturday. I thought this was I thought this was
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  Speaker 1: really interesting. You know, what does a head football code
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  Speaker 1: do on a Saturday when his team's not playing.
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  Speaker 3: He well, first he gets up and has some breakfast
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  Speaker 3: with the family, quality time. He's talked about work life balance.
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  Speaker 3: He told us all his players as well have some balance,
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  Speaker 3: spend some time with the family, and then it's time
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  Speaker 3: for the important stuff. The twelve pm game start. You
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  Speaker 3: start watching football, and the great thing nowadays is you
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  Speaker 3: can watch multiple games at once. So I'm guessing maybe
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  Speaker 3: they wheeled in the kitchen TV into the living room,
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  Speaker 3: you know, or something.
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  Speaker 2: Like the gym teacher wheeled the cart, yes, with the
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  Speaker 2: backup TV.
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  Speaker 3: And maybe they put a television on top of their
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  Speaker 3: giant console television two something like that. You get two
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  Speaker 3: TVs going, but you watch these And then he says,
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  Speaker 3: whenever he watching the game doesn't matter like college, high school,
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  Speaker 3: NFL or whatever. He's just always like running through in
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  Speaker 3: his mind what he would do in these different situations,
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  Speaker 3: and then he says, and I do it out loud too,
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  Speaker 3: so Nina and our Jay and the kids. I'll have
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  Speaker 3: to hear him doing this as well. But you look
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  Speaker 3: at all these week question coaches all the time. Everybody does,
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  Speaker 3: we all do, Yeah, and it turns out so of coaches.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I would love to think that Ryan Day was
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  Speaker 1: typing the exact same things. Watching Mark Stuke's game management
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  Speaker 1: during that Kentucky Toorgia game.
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  Speaker 2: I was yeah, yeah, you know, he's got a good burner.
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  Speaker 1: But yeah, he he was asked sort of vaguely about
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  Speaker 1: that and then more specifically as the question went along,
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  Speaker 1: and you know, said, yeah, you're looking at you, you're.
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  Speaker 2: Looking and you're questioning things and all that kind of stuff.
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  Speaker 1: But yeah, that was That's always interesting to me because
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  Speaker 1: we have heard about that in the past in terms
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  Speaker 1: of him watching the Michigan State Gaming twenty twenty, for example,
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  Speaker 1: where he was stuck at home because of COVID, and
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  Speaker 1: Jim Harbaugh has talked about games where he was uninvited
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  Speaker 1: from the stadium as I don't know, various reasons, but
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  Speaker 1: ye know, right, and Day just watching watching football games
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  Speaker 1: during the playwek I do love the idea of him
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  Speaker 1: just yelling at the TV, throwing topcor and just what
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  Speaker 1: are you doing well?
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  Speaker 3: And now that he's gotten the customs of yelling at
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  Speaker 3: reps more on the sidelines, it's not doing it more
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  Speaker 3: on TV as well. But he also told his team
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  Speaker 3: go watch some football and kind of do what he's doing, Like,
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  Speaker 3: just watch these different situations, see what comes up. Imagine
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  Speaker 3: yourself and those you know, how would you react look
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  Speaker 3: at Basically, I think you wanted to, like watch go
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  Speaker 3: watch players screw up, yeah, and make sure that doesn't
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  Speaker 3: that doesn't happen to you.
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  Speaker 2: Well, it's mental reps.
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  Speaker 1: I mean do they talk about that in terms of
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  Speaker 1: practice all the time, where if you're if you're hurt
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  Speaker 1: or you're the fourth string guy and you're not you're
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  Speaker 1: not taking part in practice mental reps. Hear the play call,
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  Speaker 1: look at it and go okay, hey, what would I
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  Speaker 1: have done there? As they got quarterbacks dropping back? Where
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  Speaker 1: should he throw the ball?
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  Speaker 2: Okay?
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  Speaker 1: Is that where he threw the ball was at the
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  Speaker 1: right decision? I'm sure guys are doing the same thing.
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  Speaker 1: And when is the best way to learn from a
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  Speaker 1: mistake when it's someone else's mistake. So, hey, this offensive
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  Speaker 1: lineman didn't you know, the tight end, it didn't get
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  Speaker 1: a good seal block on the edge. You know what,
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  Speaker 1: It's a better better chance for an Ohio State offensive
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  Speaker 1: line or a tackle or a tight end to learn
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  Speaker 1: that lesson watching a Michigan guy not do it rather
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  Speaker 1: than having to do make that mistake themselves. So that
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  Speaker 1: was some of the o Highest States week off. You
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  Speaker 1: asked him a little bit of a question, right, he
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  Speaker 1: talked about Will Howard feeling much more comfortable. Will Howard
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  Speaker 1: talked about feeling much more comfortable. You asked Ryan David,
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  Speaker 1: question about what about you know, how much credit do
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  Speaker 1: the wide receivers get for making Will Howard feel much
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  Speaker 1: more comfortable?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, and he immediately credits everybody. It's like, no, no, no,
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  Speaker 3: my question is about the receivers. Stick to the topic
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  Speaker 3: at hand. But he's like, you know, it's the protection,
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  Speaker 3: it's the running game, Like, sir, the question is.
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  Speaker 1: About the receivers, Sir, this is a Wendy's let's talk
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  Speaker 1: about the wide receive exactly.
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  Speaker 3: But you know, I just wanted him to talk about
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  Speaker 3: the luxury of that when you've got a new guy
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  Speaker 3: coming in and imagine how comfortable you'd feel if you
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  Speaker 3: have nobody to throw to. Like, we won't need to
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  Speaker 3: go on into the Michigan story this week, but there
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  Speaker 3: are different levels of this. Is this is a nice
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  Speaker 3: place to be for a quarterback and when you have
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  Speaker 3: the opportunity to just you've got guys in one on
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  Speaker 3: one coverage that means they're open, go ahead and throw it,
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  Speaker 3: and it's like, well, which but which one?
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  Speaker 2: Yeah?
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  Speaker 3: Which one? And it's a luxury to have. But also
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  Speaker 3: the culture that has been created here to be able
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  Speaker 3: to bring in a quarterback, a center, and there's a
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  Speaker 3: lot of talking about Seth and Claughlin as well, like
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  Speaker 3: guys who are leading the offense from another school wouldn't
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  Speaker 3: be possible without the guys that are already here welcoming
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  Speaker 3: them in. And the receivers were certainly did that for
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  Speaker 3: uh Will Howard.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, and and Will Howard obviously feeling very comfortable. Seth
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  Speaker 1: Claughlin has been a big, big part of the team
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  Speaker 1: and he was asked day was asked about quinch On
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  Speaker 1: Jerkins adjustment as well, and that felt like one where yeah,
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  Speaker 1: he's you know, he talked about how he you know,
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  Speaker 1: there's some different things from where he came from.
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  Speaker 2: Where at Ohio State.
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  Speaker 1: It was like, tell me more, tell me more about
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  Speaker 1: the differences between Ole miss and Ohio State. That's one
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  Speaker 1: of those great questions that will never ever get answered, honestly.
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  Speaker 1: But you talked about the adjustment he made and how
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  Speaker 1: Carlos Laughlin has done a great job incorporating him, and
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  Speaker 1: how Travan Henderson is really embraced having quinch On Judkins
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  Speaker 1: there and being able to sort of spread that load
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  Speaker 1: a little bit.
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  Speaker 3: And that running back, and it's going to be interesting
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  Speaker 3: to watch because we're two games in and he's been
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  Speaker 3: here since Judkins has been here since January. He there
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  Speaker 3: were people from the Mississippi. Mississippi side of things will
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  Speaker 3: mention the words like locker room cancer or Delane Kiffin
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  Speaker 3: was happy to be rid of this guy. Everybody we've
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  Speaker 3: talked to Ohio State is drilled to have him. Jim
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  Speaker 3: Kelly is thrilled to have him here and is talking
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  Speaker 3: about how he's getting better and better. When you've got
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  Speaker 3: somebody two hundred and twenty pounds that can make people
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  Speaker 3: miss like him, can run people over, create his own hole.
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  Speaker 3: Like nothing that we've seen to this point has lived
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  Speaker 3: up to any of the the I don't know seller's
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  Speaker 3: remorse that came from the seller's lack of remorse.
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  Speaker 2: Really. Yeah, there was another another guy who we have.
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  Speaker 1: We've talked in the past about the fact that the
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  Speaker 1: coaches sometimes speak to the players through us, and one
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  Speaker 1: of the guys who they were definitely doing that with
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  Speaker 1: earlier in the year, earlier in the summer was Jelantie
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  Speaker 1: Thurman and just talking about how you know, hey, that
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  Speaker 1: the physical ability is there, but just it's not there yet,
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  Speaker 1: the consistency's not there yet, all of that kind of stuff.
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  Speaker 1: He has definitely taken a significant step forward. He's played
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  Speaker 1: as many snaps basically as Wilca as American g Scott
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  Speaker 1: last week, and it feels like, based on what Brian
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  Speaker 1: Day said today, feels like the message that he was
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  Speaker 1: not so subtly sending through the media about a month
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  Speaker 1: ago seems to have gotten through.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, we should be used more often, frankly, but.
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  Speaker 2: Imagine how much they could use this if we went
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  Speaker 2: to practice all the time.
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  Speaker 3: There you go. I believe he's leading the tight ends
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  Speaker 3: by two snaps in the overall snapcount. But a guy
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  Speaker 3: that Day said can take hard coaching and can take
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  Speaker 3: clearly when you can take some criticism in the media.
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  Speaker 3: Because when when Ryan Day said that stuff about Joloannny
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  Speaker 3: we came on the show, We're like, he doesn't talk
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  Speaker 3: about players like this as as openly and as critically
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  Speaker 3: as he just just did here. And it's he wouldn't
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  Speaker 3: have done it if he couldn't handle it, or he
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  Speaker 3: would have done it if he wanted him out here,
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  Speaker 3: and we know he doesn't want him out here, and
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  Speaker 3: he's taking that taking it to heart, Jelannie Thurman has
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  Speaker 3: And you're seeing the play the receiving production, will you
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  Speaker 3: know it'll be whatever it is because we're talking about
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  Speaker 3: tight ends and it is to the year of the
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  Speaker 3: tight end. But when you've got three or four tight
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  Speaker 3: ends to feed, you know, not everybody's going to get
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  Speaker 3: their pill. But this is a guy that is thriving
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  Speaker 3: at this point with this role, and he has the
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  Speaker 3: opportunity to eventually be the one guy this season. I
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  Speaker 3: don't know that it will be him, but everybody's got
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  Speaker 3: that opportunity right now, and for a lot of a
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  Speaker 3: lot of these guys, if you just give them an opportunity,
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  Speaker 3: Arvel reeves. Look the way he has responded to his opportunity.
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  Speaker 3: I think Jolani Fairman is doing some of that as well.
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  Speaker 1: And another guy who's doing that is James People's. Chip
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  Speaker 1: Kelly was asked about him. Chip Kelly had a couple
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  Speaker 1: of real good one liners today. One of them was
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  Speaker 1: about James Peoples. He started talking about People's and talked
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  Speaker 1: about the fact that football players, Tony, this is a
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  Speaker 1: little bit of a life, is like a box of chocolates.
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  Speaker 2: Football players are like a tea bag. Tony explain that.
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  Speaker 3: I'm not a tea drinker, but basically all tea bags,
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  Speaker 3: you know, you can't basically look the same. You don't
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  Speaker 3: know what flavor it is until you've you know, soaked
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  Speaker 3: it then and then sipped.
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  Speaker 1: It hot water. Tony, Yes, you have to tea bags.
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  Speaker 1: Football players are like tea bags. You don't know what
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  Speaker 1: they truly are until they're in some hot water. Oh interesting,
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  Speaker 1: that was really Really the point was you can see
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  Speaker 1: it in practice with a running back, but until you
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  Speaker 1: see it in a game, you don't really know. And
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  Speaker 1: they have been he was very impressed with what they
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  Speaker 1: have seen out of James People's. So I'm gonna give
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  Speaker 1: you a C minus on that one. Let's see how
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  Speaker 1: you do with this one, Tony. Okay, most defenses are
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  Speaker 1: lactose intolerant. Oh yes, Tony, can you explain chip Kelly's
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  Speaker 1: philosophy on my toast intolerant defenses?
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  Speaker 3: Lactose intolerance in regards to some of the play action stuff,
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  Speaker 3: some of the the RPO stuff, They don't you don't
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  Speaker 3: want your defense biting on the cheese. Correct, They're gonna
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  Speaker 3: show you some cheese with the play action. Don't bite
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  Speaker 3: on that you'll become And the follow up then was like, well,
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  Speaker 3: like what happens you know if the cheese is bitten on?
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  Speaker 3: You know that sort of thing. He didn't go into that.
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  Speaker 3: It was understood, but yes, don't bite on the cheese.
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  Speaker 3: That was another one that he was He was throwing
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  Speaker 3: some good ones out there, saw Tim May make taking
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  Speaker 3: some notes. I like this one. This is a good one.
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  Speaker 3: I'm gonna use this one later. What was the uh
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  Speaker 3: what was the Tim May line that that Chip Kelly
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  Speaker 3: wrote down a while back? It was like your your wheelhouse,
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  Speaker 3: not the wheelhouse, but the other thing. I should just
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  Speaker 3: ask him you should just ask him, sorry, this is
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  Speaker 3: your shot. I didn't.
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  Speaker 1: The other thing I did want to talk about that
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  Speaker 1: I thought was a great line was Will Howard. He
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  Speaker 1: was asked about being a film junkie, and the answer,
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  Speaker 1: the answer in a roundabout way, was yes. And Will
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  Speaker 1: Howard is sometimes watching film at times that we both
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  Speaker 1: Howard probably should not be watching film.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, he said, don't tell my professors, but I have
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  Speaker 3: classes at night and sometimes I'm watching film there. And
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  Speaker 3: I figure you're in college to learn, you know. And
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  Speaker 3: he's certainly spending his time in class learning and whether
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  Speaker 3: that is art history or martial history doesn't really matter.
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  Speaker 3: I think you're you're preparing. And then he talks about
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  Speaker 3: the the practice, the the result of learning, and when
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  Speaker 3: you come up against an opponent and you you see
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  Speaker 3: on the field everything that you've prepared for and justifies
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  Speaker 3: all of the time that you spent, makes you more
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  Speaker 3: confident players. So you know, these professors nowadays, they want
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  Speaker 3: to get in people's faces about learning. He's learning. It's
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  Speaker 3: just it's football. And plus he's a graduate student at
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  Speaker 3: this point. I kind of some slash.
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  Speaker 1: If you haven't gotten through college in five years either
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  Speaker 1: either it's not going to happen, or you've already got
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  Speaker 1: your degree, so it should be.
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  Speaker 2: Should be fine.
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  Speaker 3: I don't. I do wonder if are these I assume
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  Speaker 3: these are classes at home online learning.
• 15:17
  Speaker 1: You would think at night, probably, but I did. I
• 15:20
  Speaker 1: did think. You know, boy, you think about the the
• 15:23
  Speaker 1: backlash that you got after the Justin Fields taking all
• 15:25
  Speaker 1: of his classes online thing.
• 15:27
  Speaker 2: I'm like, oh, boy, here that was going to be.
• 15:28
  Speaker 2: That was pre that was yes, pre covid.
• 15:31
  Speaker 3: I remember my night classes at Ohio State. I would
• 15:34
  Speaker 3: have to run back on Thursdays to get back in
• 15:35
  Speaker 3: time for friends.
• 15:38
  Speaker 2: So that was all I had, and not to derail
• 15:41
  Speaker 2: the show. Not to derail the show. I was thinking
• 15:43
  Speaker 2: I could go any number of different ways with that.
• 15:45
  Speaker 1: But instead, Tony, we're going to pivot, pivot to your
• 15:49
  Speaker 1: anything else you have, and then we are going to
• 15:51
  Speaker 1: pivot again to listener questions.
• 15:53
  Speaker 3: No, I'm good. It was all offense today. What did
• 15:58
  Speaker 3: I ask Chip Kelly? Yeah, I don't recall Will Howard
• 16:03
  Speaker 3: asking about No, No, Kevin, don't give reel the show please.
• 16:07
  Speaker 3: I asked Tim Kelly about last week being improvement week.
• 16:11
  Speaker 3: What did you and Will Howard work on? He said
• 16:14
  Speaker 3: some little things, some footwork things, some recognition things, and
• 16:18
  Speaker 3: so I think it's it, you know, he said, well,
• 16:21
  Speaker 3: you know, everybody player, every player had their own things
• 16:23
  Speaker 3: to work on, which we talked about, and I was
• 16:25
  Speaker 3: just wondering what what did Will Howard work on? And
• 16:28
  Speaker 3: it was some footwork stuff, because I think you look
• 16:30
  Speaker 3: at the short past, the deep past that was short
• 16:33
  Speaker 3: to Jeremiah Smith, he had the one that was just
• 16:36
  Speaker 3: kind of came out of his hand, slipped out of
• 16:38
  Speaker 3: his hand on. So there are some things that they
• 16:40
  Speaker 3: were working on, and you know, all of the decision
• 16:43
  Speaker 3: making stuff seems to be doing really really well for him.
• 16:45
  Speaker 3: Will Will Howard said the same thing, making making the
• 16:48
  Speaker 3: right reads with his RPOs and things like that. So
• 16:52
  Speaker 3: I think they seem really really happy with Will Howard
• 16:55
  Speaker 3: right now, a lot happier than some coaches are with
• 16:57
  Speaker 3: their quarterbacks.
• 16:58
  Speaker 1: Yeah, for sure, it feels like the there's not a
• 17:00
  Speaker 1: lot of quarterback drama at Ohio State, which given some
• 17:03
  Speaker 1: of the injury situation, in some of the crappy play
• 17:05
  Speaker 1: situation and other schools. That is probably when I did
• 17:09
  Speaker 1: ask Ryan Day about Matt Ruhle on Monday, talking about
• 17:13
  Speaker 1: the fact that there was a Big ten coaches group
• 17:15
  Speaker 1: chat or group text, and asked him, you know, what
• 17:18
  Speaker 1: are you guys talking about in there? And also, who's
• 17:20
  Speaker 1: who's the funny? You know, who's the funny? There's always
• 17:22
  Speaker 1: in every group text, Tony. We know there's always the
• 17:24
  Speaker 1: guy with like the great reaction gifts or the funny
• 17:27
  Speaker 1: one liners. Kevin's pointing to himself or I assume pointing
• 17:30
  Speaker 1: to someone behind him, because I don't think he's pointing
• 17:32
  Speaker 1: to himself. Ryan Day did not want to dive into
• 17:37
  Speaker 1: the funny person. I know Brett Bielamo is the one
• 17:39
  Speaker 1: who sort of organized that that came out during the
• 17:41
  Speaker 1: answered that question one hundred percent. Would have to beat Illinois.
• 17:45
  Speaker 1: Not on the schedule this year. They people get him
• 17:46
  Speaker 1: a big ten media days next year, big championship game,
• 17:48
  Speaker 1: Big ten championship game.
• 17:49
  Speaker 2: Always possibility, Tony, always a possibility.
• 17:52
  Speaker 1: But Ryan said that was more it's more of an
• 17:54
  Speaker 1: off season, you know, sort of big picture rule changes
• 17:57
  Speaker 1: that kind of stuff. So you know, it is not
• 18:00
  Speaker 1: it does not sound like it is a roast marks
• 18:02
  Speaker 1: dude for his terrible fourth down decision making kind of
• 18:05
  Speaker 1: a group text, which you know, hey, some of us
• 18:08
  Speaker 1: can be in that some of us, some of us don't.
• 18:10
  Speaker 3: Have to make it feels like opportunity.
• 18:11
  Speaker 2: It sure does, all right, Kevin, we have any questions?
• 18:14
  Speaker 4: Sure Steve says that Kayden Curry should be starting over JT.
• 18:21
  Speaker 1: So Steve says that Kayden Curry should be starting over
• 18:23
  Speaker 1: j T two Moloa. I haven't looked at snap counts,
• 18:26
  Speaker 1: but it feels like that's they're they're spreading the snaps
• 18:30
  Speaker 1: relatively evenly between the ones and the two's on that
• 18:34
  Speaker 1: defensive line. And I don't really have any complaints about
• 18:39
  Speaker 1: j T.
• 18:39
  Speaker 2: Twoey Moloaw's play.
• 18:41
  Speaker 1: And I don't know that I think that Kayden Curry's
• 18:43
  Speaker 1: been Kayten Curry's been very good, but I don't think
• 18:45
  Speaker 1: Kayden Curry has been absolutely incredible making a million plays.
• 18:50
  Speaker 1: It feels like Jack Sawyer has been the best player
• 18:52
  Speaker 1: at the defensive end position.
• 18:54
  Speaker 2: And then really then j T.
• 18:55
  Speaker 1: Twey Molall, Kayden Curry, Ken Yetta Jackson have all had
• 18:58
  Speaker 1: some really good moments.
• 19:00
  Speaker 3: And I don't know that anybody's playing poorly that somebody
• 19:02
  Speaker 3: needs to do something else. And I don't know, like
• 19:05
  Speaker 3: you said, Cayden Curry, like we can reference Rvell Reese again,
• 19:09
  Speaker 3: who has elevated himself and has moved his way into
• 19:13
  Speaker 3: more playing time. I don't see that happening for anybody
• 19:15
  Speaker 3: behind the top two defensive ends. And I think JT.
• 19:18
  Speaker 3: Tu Moloa also has asked to do a lot of
• 19:21
  Speaker 3: things that don't don't just show up in numbers and statistics,
• 19:25
  Speaker 3: But I don't have any they're gonna all roll in there.
• 19:29
  Speaker 3: They consider all four of those guys starters anyway, essentially,
• 19:32
  Speaker 3: so you know, you might see you might see Kiting
• 19:36
  Speaker 3: Curry get more snaps this week just because of the
• 19:38
  Speaker 3: game is out of hands.
• 19:39
  Speaker 1: Well, and I go back a year probably basically a
• 19:42
  Speaker 1: year to the week where last year against Notre Dame,
• 19:46
  Speaker 1: it was JTA and George Sawyer to hit every snap
• 19:49
  Speaker 1: at defensive end. I don't think Kayden Curry and Kenya
• 19:52
  Speaker 1: out of Jackson played a single snap on defense. If
• 19:55
  Speaker 1: those guys, if you know, if they're playing Notre Dame
• 19:58
  Speaker 1: this week or Oregon this week, guy are absolutely playing
• 20:01
  Speaker 1: I don't know if it's a fifty to fifty distribution,
• 20:03
  Speaker 1: but those guys are absolutely playing a sixty to forty
• 20:05
  Speaker 1: kind of distribution of snap something like that, because they
• 20:09
  Speaker 1: have both I think they have. Both of those guys,
• 20:10
  Speaker 1: Curry and Kenyana Jackson have come a long way in
• 20:13
  Speaker 1: the last year because Kuyumolowew and Sawyer have also improved,
• 20:16
  Speaker 1: and yet they have continued to take the bigger, bigger,
• 20:19
  Speaker 1: bigger and bigger roles there. So yeah, I don't I
• 20:23
  Speaker 1: don't think that there's anyone there that I think, oh boy,
• 20:25
  Speaker 1: they've got to get that guy off the field. I
• 20:26
  Speaker 1: think it's just more just roll those guys. Keep them
• 20:30
  Speaker 1: fresh for the game, keep them fresh for the season.
• 20:32
  Speaker 3: Yep.
• 20:32
  Speaker 4: The next one is from Florida. But guy, just wondering
• 20:36
  Speaker 4: how many tickets counter Stallions has purchased since last October.
• 20:40
  Speaker 4: Since last October, football is a harder game when you
• 20:42
  Speaker 4: don't have the other teams play calls.
• 20:44
  Speaker 3: You know, it's interesting. Sorry, don't mean to interrupt to
• 20:46
  Speaker 3: asking about how many tickets counter Stallions has purchased since
• 20:50
  Speaker 3: he was found out in October. If Tom, if we
• 20:53
  Speaker 3: are to believe that he just always buys tickets for
• 20:55
  Speaker 3: family and for friends, that's true. That the purchases did
• 20:58
  Speaker 3: have continued.
• 21:00
  Speaker 2: That's true.
• 21:00
  Speaker 1: Yeah, the the Connor Stallions, you know, his version of
• 21:04
  Speaker 1: Scott's Todds basically just you know, buy buying tickets for
• 21:07
  Speaker 1: the for the poor, the poor orphans of the Greater
• 21:10
  Speaker 1: ann Arbor area. Yeah, some we'll workshop that. That's yeah,
• 21:16
  Speaker 1: that I I think that perhaps that has not happened,
• 21:22
  Speaker 1: that that has not perhaps carried over in the way
• 21:24
  Speaker 1: that you might expect based on the you know, the
• 21:26
  Speaker 1: Prawford explanation, much in the same way that they have
• 21:30
  Speaker 1: lost a combined what one hundred and fifty one to
• 21:33
  Speaker 1: nothing or something like that in the first two games
• 21:35
  Speaker 1: of his high school coaching career. He's at Mumford High
• 21:39
  Speaker 1: School in Detroit, and he was at interim high school
• 21:41
  Speaker 1: and this is an interim coach because the other the
• 21:42
  Speaker 1: head coach had a health issue, and so this is,
• 21:46
  Speaker 1: you know, this is a team that he was terrible
• 21:48
  Speaker 1: last year is terrible this year. But you know, the
• 21:51
  Speaker 1: proffered explanation that he can just sort of like do
• 21:55
  Speaker 1: the like psych thing and just put his hands to
• 21:57
  Speaker 1: his head and just decipher what the signals are across
• 22:00
  Speaker 1: the field, that doesn't seem to have translated to a
• 22:02
  Speaker 1: high school level. For whatever reason.
• 22:04
  Speaker 3: Well, high school is more advanced in college, as we know,
• 22:07
  Speaker 3: because high schools have always allowed the iPads, and college
• 22:09
  Speaker 3: is just starting to do that this year, so it'll
• 22:13
  Speaker 3: take him a little while to catch up to the
• 22:15
  Speaker 3: high school.
• 22:15
  Speaker 4: Football Crowsey Dragon, Are we going to see a tight
• 22:20
  Speaker 4: end merge eventually?
• 22:23
  Speaker 3: Are we going to see a tight end to merge eventually? Tom,
• 22:25
  Speaker 3: That's the question that I have. Because they've got three
• 22:27
  Speaker 3: that they like, and you saw the four Bennett Christian
• 22:29
  Speaker 3: going for fifty five yards in the last game. So
• 22:32
  Speaker 3: Chip Kelly said, they've got four they like. But I
• 22:35
  Speaker 3: am interested to see if one of g Scott wilkas
• 22:38
  Speaker 3: America Gilani Thurman becomes the guy that gets thirty five
• 22:42
  Speaker 3: snaps and the other two get the other thirty five.
• 22:45
  Speaker 1: Yeah, And I think if I was going to guess
• 22:47
  Speaker 1: right now, Will Kasmeric is probably at the head of
• 22:50
  Speaker 1: the line, and I think that's just his blocking might
• 22:52
  Speaker 1: be the best of anyone there, and that's what they probably.
• 22:55
  Speaker 2: Value the most out of that position.
• 22:57
  Speaker 1: So I think the first guy to get thirty five
• 22:59
  Speaker 1: snaps in a meaningful game is probably gonna be him.
• 23:02
  Speaker 1: But if he's playing well and the other guys are
• 23:06
  Speaker 1: playing well and you can continue to spread, I don't
• 23:10
  Speaker 1: think that's a bad thing. But what you need to
• 23:12
  Speaker 1: have is you need to have guys who are well rounded.
• 23:14
  Speaker 1: Will Kosmerck has to be able to block and catch
• 23:16
  Speaker 1: the ball. Gee Scott has to be able to block
• 23:18
  Speaker 1: and catch the ball. All the way down that line,
• 23:20
  Speaker 1: Jolannie Thurman, with Bennett Christian, all those guys, it feels
• 23:24
  Speaker 1: like they're sort of coming along there. That's just it's
• 23:27
  Speaker 1: just not a very star studded position compared to the
• 23:30
  Speaker 1: running back room or the wide receiver room. And those
• 23:33
  Speaker 1: are the ones where you know, you have your you
• 23:36
  Speaker 1: have your your six non.
• 23:39
  Speaker 2: Offensive linemen on the field during every play.
• 23:41
  Speaker 1: You're one who's gonna be quarterbacks, so you get your
• 23:42
  Speaker 1: other five and I don't know, you know, are you
• 23:46
  Speaker 1: going to take both running.
• 23:47
  Speaker 2: Backs off the field.
• 23:48
  Speaker 1: Are you going to take one of your three starting
• 23:50
  Speaker 1: offensive wide receivers off the field to put a second
• 23:53
  Speaker 1: tight end on there.
• 23:53
  Speaker 2: I just I think that's a hard sell for me
• 23:56
  Speaker 2: right now.
• 23:57
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and when you do have multiple tight ends out there,
• 24:00
  Speaker 3: because you mostly you want to run sure, and so
• 24:03
  Speaker 3: that's part of that process. But two, then you know, now,
• 24:08
  Speaker 3: let's just throw four times in a row out of
• 24:10
  Speaker 3: twelve or thirteen personnelity like you're missing out on some
• 24:13
  Speaker 3: opportunities to throw to the receiver's net.
• 24:15
  Speaker 2: Case.
• 24:16
  Speaker 4: Next one is from Steve Big Noon at Ohio State
• 24:20
  Speaker 4: for Marshall, but a primetime game versus Party is on Peacock.
• 24:23
  Speaker 1: Make it make sense, So Big Noon kickoff at Ohio
• 24:27
  Speaker 1: State against Marshall this week, and then Michigan State against
• 24:31
  Speaker 1: Sparty again, sorry, Michigan State next week on Peacock in primetime.
• 24:37
  Speaker 1: So this week there is one really interesting Big ten game,
• 24:41
  Speaker 1: and that is Michigan versus USC. And so CBS had
• 24:45
  Speaker 1: the first pick this week and took that one, and
• 24:47
  Speaker 1: then after that it's kind of a bunch of like, yeah,
• 24:50
  Speaker 1: there's not a great second game. And if Fox had
• 24:54
  Speaker 1: the second pick this week, they are looking at that
• 24:57
  Speaker 1: and going, well, we can get the Ohio State eyeballs,
• 24:59
  Speaker 1: and that's you're pretty much guaranteed to get a million
• 25:03
  Speaker 1: and a half views something like that, two million visions,
• 25:05
  Speaker 1: no matter how boring the game is, no matter who
• 25:07
  Speaker 1: the opponent is, Ohio State is going to bring a
• 25:09
  Speaker 1: bunch of eyeballs to the TV. And so that's that's
• 25:12
  Speaker 1: why they're higher on the list this week than you
• 25:13
  Speaker 1: might think.
• 25:14
  Speaker 3: And then next week, I believe it's like Kansas State
• 25:16
  Speaker 3: and Oklahoma State is probably the big neon.
• 25:18
  Speaker 1: They haven't Yeah, they haven't actually announced yet. They're taking
• 25:21
  Speaker 1: what's called a six day window or a six day
• 25:24
  Speaker 1: option on that. And Kansas State, Oklahoma State, Michigan, Minnesota,
• 25:28
  Speaker 1: and there's a couple other Big ten games that haven't
• 25:30
  Speaker 1: been announced yet, and so Michigan will play either they'll
• 25:35
  Speaker 1: be the big noon game or they'll be like a
• 25:36
  Speaker 1: four o'clock game or something like that. And probably Kansas
• 25:40
  Speaker 1: State Oklahoma State probably for Big noon next week. But
• 25:45
  Speaker 1: I think they're just gonna wait and see. Okay, what
• 25:47
  Speaker 1: does if Michigan beats USC this week? Well, guess what,
• 25:49
  Speaker 1: Michigan's probably did a big noon I think no one
• 25:52
  Speaker 1: is necessarily expecting that to happen, so therefore Michigan's probably not.
• 25:55
  Speaker 2: But so there's a lot of factors that go into it.
• 26:00
  Speaker 1: In conclusion, the TV networks selection process as a land
• 26:03
  Speaker 1: of contrast.
• 26:03
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and then we see doesn't mind having High of
• 26:05
  Speaker 3: State on Peacock at all.
• 26:07
  Speaker 1: Right, Well, the whole goal of that is, Hey, remember
• 26:10
  Speaker 1: when you had to subscribe for this last year?
• 26:12
  Speaker 2: Guess what?
• 26:12
  Speaker 1: Get that credit card out again? And maybe you'll forget
• 26:15
  Speaker 1: to unsubscribe.
• 26:16
  Speaker 3: And generally you can find a deal of for like
• 26:17
  Speaker 3: twenty dollars for the entire year.
• 26:19
  Speaker 1: Right, so they get you their twenty bucks out of you,
• 26:22
  Speaker 1: and then we'll see you next year. It's probably going
• 26:24
  Speaker 1: to be the only time Ohio State's on peacock this year, probably,
• 26:28
  Speaker 1: So you can go to a friend's house or find
• 26:32
  Speaker 1: a sports bar or whatever if you don't want to,
• 26:33
  Speaker 1: but they would, They would like their six dollars a
• 26:36
  Speaker 1: month or twenty dollars a year.
• 26:37
  Speaker 2: Whatever it is.
• 26:38
  Speaker 4: Rosie Dragon. You know Ryan Day was smiling while watching
• 26:41
  Speaker 4: the team up north.
• 26:43
  Speaker 1: Yeah, No one asked Ryan specifically about what he thought
• 26:46
  Speaker 1: about the Arkansas State game.
• 26:49
  Speaker 2: I'm sure.
• 26:50
  Speaker 1: I'm sure he's not devastated to see Michigan really struggling
• 26:53
  Speaker 1: to do much of.
• 26:53
  Speaker 2: Anything on offense. That's I'm sure he would.
• 26:57
  Speaker 1: He would, if given the opportunity, take an aggressive approach
• 27:03
  Speaker 1: to that game this year. But yeah, I don't you know,
• 27:06
  Speaker 1: Michigan looking like Michigan did the last really all three weeks,
• 27:11
  Speaker 1: struggling against Fresno State, getting thumped by Texas and not
• 27:15
  Speaker 1: struggling against Arkansas State but not putting Arkansas State away either.
• 27:19
  Speaker 1: I think Ryan Day probably is looking at a lot
• 27:21
  Speaker 1: of that in the same way that a lot of
• 27:24
  Speaker 1: Ohio State fans are watching that game. And you know,
• 27:27
  Speaker 1: I don't know if he's sitting at home intent tenting
• 27:29
  Speaker 1: his fingers and cackling with glee, but he's probably not
• 27:32
  Speaker 1: devastated to see them looking like that.
• 27:34
  Speaker 3: No, And as I was writing Michigan Monday this week,
• 27:36
  Speaker 3: that was as I'm writing it, literally Saran Moore comes
• 27:40
  Speaker 3: out and says, Alex and Orgy is going to be
• 27:41
  Speaker 3: the starter. I don't know why you felt the need
• 27:43
  Speaker 3: to break that kind of news.
• 27:44
  Speaker 2: Yes, I mean crazy to me.
• 27:46
  Speaker 1: I think you sort of assumed he probably would because
• 27:49
  Speaker 1: Davis Warren was not very good and the current status
• 27:52
  Speaker 1: quo is not working at all. But you know, why
• 27:55
  Speaker 1: would you put that out there if against a defense
• 27:59
  Speaker 1: that Yeah, I mean, I'm sure USC was going to
• 28:02
  Speaker 1: prepare for that anyway, but.
• 28:04
  Speaker 2: Now they're going to prepare for it more. That just
• 28:06
  Speaker 2: felt like, why would you put that out there?
• 28:08
  Speaker 1: Yeah?
• 28:08
  Speaker 3: And so now Michigan is turning to an offense that
• 28:12
  Speaker 3: they didn't want to run before the season, which is
• 28:15
  Speaker 3: why they went with Davis forhre and so now we
• 28:17
  Speaker 3: get to see why they didn't want to run it
• 28:19
  Speaker 3: and how well Kirk Campbell does with it when it's
• 28:22
  Speaker 3: not his preferred style of offense. He's their offensive coordinator
• 28:25
  Speaker 3: and quarterbacks coach. So get ready to see a lot
• 28:28
  Speaker 3: of six offensive linemen and try to find some passes
• 28:32
  Speaker 3: that alex Orgy is comfortable with. Sharan Morris says he
• 28:34
  Speaker 3: could throw, but through none of the play calling this
• 28:38
  Speaker 3: season have we seen the evidence that the coaches actually
• 28:42
  Speaker 3: believe that.
• 28:42
  Speaker 2: Right.
• 28:43
  Speaker 1: This is the difference between what the coaches saying with
• 28:45
  Speaker 1: the coaches, you know, watching the coaches do, not what
• 28:47
  Speaker 1: the coaches say. Everything the coaches are doing, and everything
• 28:50
  Speaker 1: alex Orgy is doing with what the coaches are doing
• 28:52
  Speaker 1: is telling you he probably can't throw the football downfield much,
• 28:55
  Speaker 1: if at all, outside of really like a trick play
• 28:58
  Speaker 1: kind of situation. So I look at that game as
• 29:03
  Speaker 1: I don't think the final score is going to be
• 29:04
  Speaker 1: quite what it was in the game. I'm going to
• 29:05
  Speaker 1: reference here, but do you remember when Terrell Pryor came
• 29:07
  Speaker 1: in against USC in two thousand and eight and he
• 29:11
  Speaker 1: ripped off a long twenty or thirty yard run and
• 29:13
  Speaker 1: it was like, oh, oh, look at that.
• 29:15
  Speaker 2: Maybe they found something.
• 29:16
  Speaker 1: And then if you were one dimensional offense, the defense
• 29:19
  Speaker 1: figures that out relatively quickly quickly and adjusted that and
• 29:21
  Speaker 1: then that stops working, and then what and you know,
• 29:25
  Speaker 1: then what is sort of an open question?
• 29:27
  Speaker 3: Do you remember I think it was probably two thousand
• 29:29
  Speaker 3: and seven, Charlie Weiss, They're done with Brady Quinn and
• 29:32
  Speaker 3: the Dimitro Jones. Demetris Jones comes in and he's the
• 29:37
  Speaker 3: running of the quarterbacks, and Charlie Weis just thought I
• 29:40
  Speaker 3: could just run left and right with the quarterback and
• 29:42
  Speaker 3: I'm gonna be fine.
• 29:42
  Speaker 1: They lost with thirty three to three something. Look at
• 29:45
  Speaker 1: they scored three points in that game.
• 29:46
  Speaker 3: Yes, And it's like he was completely full mixed. The
• 29:49
  Speaker 3: people had caught on to the fact that they're just
• 29:51
  Speaker 3: going to run the quarterback. And why didn't it work? Because,
• 29:54
  Speaker 3: I mean, his NFL decided scheme out of advantages that
• 29:57
  Speaker 3: he had, he went away from it. That was the problem.
• 30:00
  Speaker 1: First, we're gonna pass up, then we're gonna pass up,
• 30:02
  Speaker 1: then we're gonna pass down, then we're gonna pass down.
• 30:04
  Speaker 2: They're gonna pass left. Right there to pass.
• 30:06
  Speaker 1: Left, the pass right, They're gonna hit the B back,
• 30:08
  Speaker 1: the A back and start thirty points.
• 30:10
  Speaker 3: Boom.
• 30:13
  Speaker 4: Doug Shepherd, Will Johnson's not playing at an All American
• 30:16
  Speaker 4: Honorable mention at this point. Harder to play defense when
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  Speaker 4: you don't know what the other team is doing ahead
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  Speaker 4: of time.
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  Speaker 1: So Doug Sheppard noting that Will Johnson not playing up
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  Speaker 1: to his usual standard. And I don't know if I
• 30:31
  Speaker 1: look at that as this is a direct result of
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  Speaker 1: the Connor Stallion's not being in there anymore. This might
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  Speaker 1: just be, Hey, the talent around him is not quite
• 30:40
  Speaker 1: as good as it was in previous years. He may
• 30:43
  Speaker 1: just be trying to do too much in certain circumstances.
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  Speaker 1: He's still a good football player, but he's gotten beaten
• 30:48
  Speaker 1: and he's been gotten. He's been in the neighborhood of
• 30:51
  Speaker 1: guys who've caught a lot of passes, and it feels
• 30:55
  Speaker 1: like sometimes that's you're you recognize, Hey, the offense isn't
• 30:59
  Speaker 1: gonna be able to do anything, and the corner on
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  Speaker 1: the other side of the field, it turns out, is
• 31:03
  Speaker 1: not nearly as good as I am. So I have
• 31:05
  Speaker 1: to try and do a little bit more. I get
• 31:07
  Speaker 1: to make the plays of like a player and a
• 31:09
  Speaker 1: half and then when you try and do that, then
• 31:12
  Speaker 1: you make the plays of about three quarters a player.
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  Speaker 3: Well, I remember Denzel Burke in twenty twenty two, after
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  Speaker 3: starting as a freshman his sophomore year, he took a
• 31:19
  Speaker 3: step back. Yeah, and you know, for for whatever any
• 31:23
  Speaker 3: of those reasons, and you know he's not played up
• 31:26
  Speaker 3: to that level. But you know, Quinn Yours didn't even
• 31:28
  Speaker 3: look at it. Look his way didn't go out of
• 31:29
  Speaker 3: the hall, So clearly they're still concerned about him. But
• 31:34
  Speaker 3: the way that he was attacked last week was pretty
• 31:37
  Speaker 3: eye opening. And not that he gave up a bunch
• 31:39
  Speaker 3: of yards, but he gave up you know, like I
• 31:41
  Speaker 3: think six or seven completions for like sixty or seventy yards.
• 31:43
  Speaker 3: So nobody's getting like downfield. But we did see in
• 31:47
  Speaker 3: the season opener he was getting beaten downfield. They just
• 31:49
  Speaker 3: can't necessarily connect. So I would expect him to step
• 31:54
  Speaker 3: it up. But this is going to be a significant
• 31:56
  Speaker 3: test this weekend.
• 31:57
  Speaker 1: And I am really looking forward to a head to
• 32:00
  Speaker 1: head matchup potentially of him and Jeremiah Smith later on
• 32:03
  Speaker 1: this year. We'll see who he gets match up with
• 32:05
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