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Trek, the Galaxy's Most Unpredictable Star Trek podcast. Oh and live from my
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Mom's apartment. This is Trek Cast, the Galaxy's most Unpredictable Star Trek podcast.
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Today we're going to talk about Star Trek Discovery Season five, the final
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season episode seven entitled Erica. Plus we've got Star Trek News and your listener
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feedback. I'm Scott Bouders. That's Dan Lombardo and now move over, Oprah.
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There's a new celebrity interviewer. Sheriff in town, Daniel Rees and Scott,
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if you could just apologize to your mom, I didn't mean to keep
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my shoes on when we first house. That's right, everybody doing today.
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We're all at Scott's mom's apartment, Yes we are. We're all at Scott's
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mom's Apartment's day to the mom's out there happy mother. Speaking of which,
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to my mother, my wife, and to Sam Jackson, who's the baddest
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mother I know. Speaking of which, I have somebody who would like to
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say hello to everybody at Trek cat Hello, Hello, Hi there. I
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just wanted to Hi. I just wanted to tell you that you guys do
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a fabulous job, including my son. I watch it every every week and
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it's amazing. But you guys work so well together. Thank you. That's
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what's so. That's so cool. And your guests and your guests are wonderful
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too. That's all I want to do. I don't want to take any
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more of your time. Have a great day. Thank you. It's nice
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meeting you. Thank you. Okay, that's thanks for the indulgence. Yeah,
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she's always talking talking about the group and you guys, and she loves
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the show. So she tells everyone about my famous son. Yeah that's right.
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Tens of people talk about him every day, that's right, almost dozens.
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As what do you guys, what do you guys got played with Mom?
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Today? We're gonna do a little bit of gift opening. I got
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a couple of surprises for her, and then we're going to go out to
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lunch, me and my my youngest son and her. So nice it Uh,
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well, Mother's Day is always awkward for me. Yeah, yeah,
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it's okay, But we're gonna go hang out at my sister's house and uh
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do some Mother's Day stuff for her. So all right, that's awesome,
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that's awesome. It'll be good. But yeah, how's your guys. This
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week bend it was raining. Okay, I don't know. The universe does
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not want me to mow this lawn. Every time I plan to mow it,
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it rains. Oh no, it gets a long. It's you know,
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when it passes the point where you're like, huh, not going to
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be able to use the bagger this week? Yeah, we're we're way past
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that. We are way past that. Yeah, and you're standing a little
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bit of a little crinkly there. I'm sounding crinkly. Yeah, now you
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know how I feel? That's right? Sound at all creakly? That's right?
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Is that any better? No? Oh lord, try try and plug
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in your your thing and plugging it back in like a like a any S
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cartridge. Yeah, oh no, okay, if you're if you're listening to
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the show, do not watch it? Yea or due do? Yeah?
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Any any better? Welcome to Trek Cast after Dark everyone, I don't know.
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This is the new this is the new set that you sent me a
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few months ago. I can trust this now too. You know something I
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noticed when we recorded Daniel the the the after After track, the Quick Quick
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Reaction. I noticed that when I didn't hear any of the pops on the
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on the podcast. Yeah, from from my headset. So I'm wondering if
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the listeners can even hear that. I don't know. I don't know if
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there's anyone listening live. How do I sound? Yeah? Let us know.
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I wonder if it's an issue with the stream yard could be. I
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wonder if yeah, could t Bear or Chasbiz or yeah, whoever's in the
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chat. Let us whoever's in the chat, let us know. Does Dan
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sound as horrible ass as he sounds to us? We can hear it?
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Awesome, we can hear it. Oh, my wife says, we can.
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Okay, yeah, okay, all right, well why he's doing that?
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I want to show everybody my T shirt. It's a T shirt of
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the week. All right, So this is a T shirt that I got
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from my wife. It's right, yeah, it's it's Riker and Picard and
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Admiral Akbar and uh, somebody's shouting. There are four aces. And this
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is the shirt that I get the most comments on whenever I go to a
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comic con or a whatever. Everybody always stops and wants to look at the
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T shirt. It's a good shirt. I like it, Yeah, everybody,
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it's it's it's a little out there. It's got Star Wars and Star
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Trek and you got Darth Vader saying no, and the cards saying there are
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four aces and Admir Akbar saying it's a trap. It's somebody somebody just posted
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doing it live? Who posted that? Chas biz? Is that? Is
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that a bill? O'Reilly reference? I'm just curious. I yeah, Hey,
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Dan, I think it's your connection. I don't think it's the the
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headset because it's still trankly alright, I'll see you next week. Okay,
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good, Well, we'll interview Coats. Tell then. I wonder if it
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is a stream your thing. I'll have to look it up after the show,
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okay, okay, or else little Torpedo my time. And yeah.
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Otherwise this is a good pod, you know. Yeah, that's right.
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This is yeah, welcome to Technical cast everyone. That's right. Yeah,
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I'll tell you what. Why don't we get into Star Trek News while we're
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waiting for Dan? That sounds great, okay, Star Trek News. All
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right, So our first new story comes to us from the New York Times.
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Prisingly, and we're learning a little bit more about the potential breakup of
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Paramount. This is, of course as their way. What yeah, if
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Sony and Apollo are able to purchase Paramount, the plan is according to The
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New York Times, and apparently they spoke to multiple insiders that Sony's and Apollo's
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plan is to completely break Paramounts. They will apparently sell off CBS MTV.
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The Paramount Plus streaming service would also be sold off. The plan is potentially
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to incorporate a bunch of Paramounts franchises Mission Impossible in Ninja Turtles and Star Trek
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into uh Sony. So those would all be under the Sony banner. That
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a crossover. Yeah, I can't wait for the Ninja Turtles and Star Trek
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to be to be one. So so that is the potential. Yeah,
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so yeah, so they basically want to just take it apart. Now what's
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cool is you know, I've been able to to interview a lot of people
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like you were saying, Scott, and I was able to get on tape
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a response from a Paramount spokesperson about the potential breakup of Paramount. So let's
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let's play that right now, that tad. So there you go. Apparently
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they are not disassemble, No disassemble, nobody under thirty knew what the hell
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that was, but according to the numbers, that's our target demos. That
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was uh, that was number five or Johnny five from a short circuit.
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It's right alive. Yep. Oh boy. So what do you guys think
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about the potential breakup of Paramount and selling it for parts. I don't care
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anymore. Yeah, uh yeah, it doesn't matter. Yeah, I don't
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care anymore. We talked about this like, well, no, we didn't
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talk about this last week. We talked about this last week and the week
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before and the week before and the week before. And the reason why we
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talked about it is because it's just been in limbo for so long. Paramount
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is a dying company and we're just waiting for this dying company that happens on
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the rights to our favorite franchise figure out what the hell to do with each
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other, to do with itself. And I apologize for all the cursing,
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but I'm angry at Paramount for you know, nobody seems to care about some
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of these franchises that are owned by these networks and has nobody? Yeah,
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think of poor Tom Cruise, He's got dues to pay. Okay, Scientology
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isn't cheap. Sorry, I just got all of his cancel. I just
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I just you know, hold on, there's a knock at the door.
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Somebody with a I have to read this prepared statement that I just got.
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Dear Trek cast listeners, I apologize for saying the disparaged remarks. Yeah,
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who cares? All right, our next news story. So they need to
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name they need to name drop. They need to name drop like some Starfleet
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admiral Admiral Pete Mitchell the seventh and then that would make top gun, uh
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Star Trek cannon like tradition and there you go, right, that was the
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same Pep Pete Mitchell, wasn't that Yeah, or something like that. That's
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a great have like the USS Maverick. Now I want that now, Now
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I want that it's got like flames on the side of it. Red squad
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to be the top gun. Yeah, or like if they do like a
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Star Trek Academy series, they can go they can like walk down the halls
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of like oh and this is where our you know, flight academy is and
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we can see like a top gun maybe a picture of you know, Val
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Kilmer or whatever. They're like they're like Neil Armstrong, Pete Mitchell. Yeah,
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yeah, that's awesome. All right. So our next news story comes
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to us from trekmovie dot com and surprise, surprise, for the first time,
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Star Trek Discovery has broken into the top ten streaming services or streaming shows.
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Now, the thing about this is this is for the week of April
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eighth through the fourteenth. We just are now getting the numbers. So if
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you look back at a calendar, this would have been just a few days
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after Discovery premiered for season five. Yeah, except I've never even heard of
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the nine shows above it Fallout I heard of. That's good. Yeah,
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all right, Showgun is A is a pretty big show right now, Ripley,
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Is that is that an alien prequel? I have no idea. Man,
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I don't know most of these three Body my Nose is sci fi thing.
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Yeah, that's what I'm saying. It's like, oh, it's number
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it's number ten in the top ten list of shows you've never heard of,
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right right? Yeah? Uh huh yeah, So who knows if it'll be
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in there next week that that'll kind of be the uh the real telling thing.
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I could see it being, you know, the first week that it
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was out. Oh, Jasmin says, it's the talented mister Ripley. That's
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what Ripley is like a remake of that. I'm aware that that's a thing.
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I don't know what it is. Yeah, I've never never seen that.
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Is it cake? Beat it Out? Is it? That's a show?
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That's a show? That's a show? Is it gig? I thought
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that was Is it cake? I thought was a series of tiktoks? That's
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what I thought. That is. No, it's a show. It's a
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picture of an old telephone and you're like, it's a tone and then they
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cut it and it's cake. They're doing a horrible paramounts doing a horrible job
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of advertising these shows. Nobody's a lot of people I've talked to you,
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they're like a perfect example. I'd like to talk about that late later.
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Uh. Guess who hadn't heard that there was new star trek out? Who's
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that? William Sadler? Oh that's right. Yeah, we'll get into that
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after the news. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, I didn't get to watch
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that yet, but I'm looking forwards to it. Real quick tidbit from a
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collider. If you guys have seen the or have not yet seen the New
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Doctor Who. It just premiered. You can watch the episodes on Disney Plus.
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But apparently there is a reference to Star Trek in one of the episodes,
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to the so much to the point that the Doctor mentions that they can
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go visit Star Trek if they want to. So Star Trek is now real
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in the Doctor Who universe. I guess I'm a Doctor Who fan. Now
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you have to Yeah, they can go visit Star Trek, that's what he
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says. Like, but he calls it Star Trek. Yeah, it's okay.
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Well then that that doesn't imply that it's the same universe. I mean,
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if you can visit him. I don't know what show it was.
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I but he's naming the show. So he's not saying we can go visit
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the twenty fourth century. He's saying we can go visit this sci fi franchise,
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which that says to me, Star Trek is a show in that universe
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that yes, yes, But I just oh, it was an article that
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I read. I don't remember where, but they were talking about the idea
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that you know, the multiverse, right, and the different quantum universes,
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and if there's so many of them that maybe there's a universe. In fact,
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there's almost a certainty there's a universe out there. If there's infinite universes,
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that the things that we know as TV shows and movies and franchises and
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comic books almost has to exist on another universe. So, because of the
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laws of probability, because there's infinite if there is a multiverse, there's an
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infinite number of them, there has to be a universe out there where there
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is a federation, there is an enterprise, there is a cut Scott,
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how much would you smoking? Exactly? So? Doctor who just could be
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they could just be aware of this entire multiverse? That's right, man.
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So what the multiverse says is and what the theory of multiple timelines says is
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that anything that can happen will happen or has happened, right, Okay,
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But it hinges on the word can m hm Okay, Can something that I
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think of as a piece of fiction exists in a real place somewhere else.
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No, what you're allowing that limitation of can? That doesn't break the statement
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anything that can happen will happen. Perhaps there's a universe outre see you're you're
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basing that on choices that we make, and and that's the only difference between
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one universe and another. So franchises could be real in some sort of multiverse.
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Does that mean there's somewhere there's a Paddington universe. Oh, it's exciting.
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But on the flip side of that coin, there's also a universe where
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Ted exists. So I'm gonna I'm gonna break this for you right now.
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Okay, good by that logic. By that logic, there is a universe
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where this podcast has more subscribers than Joe Rogan, and there is it doesn't
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work falls apart now streaming live from my mother's pet house in New York.
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Some other quick tidbits that they came across the really wonderful story, but I
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just thought i'd mention it. Uh. For next week's X Men ninety seven
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finale, the showrunner Bo Demilo has said, for extra credit homework, watch
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the TNG episode Cause and Effect. Apparently that is going to have some sort
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of connective tissue to the next X Men show. So that's the that's the
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Fraser one, right, Yes, that is there. Yeah, So,
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and Scott, if you could hold up your Tumblr again for a minute when
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it was half in frame and I couldn't see that it was m I thought
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you had a Charlie Brown humble. Yeah, I'm like, man, it's
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our franchise. This guy doesn't like That's right. I dig the Peanuts.
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So yeah, that's and then the other news story is, uh, recently,
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the Star Trek franchise won a Peabody Award for shedding a light on stories
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that matter. So that's kind of neat that. It's like a Lifetime Achievement
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Award basically for Star Trek. So that's kind of cool. Okay, oh,
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you were asking the real questions. Is there a Stargate a Stargate universe
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for Daniel is part of SG one? No, No, that would be
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called there isn't even the universe where we watched that show. That's right,
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that's right. I could see a universe where Discovery is real and Dan is
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the first officer. What is God? What is that line from Doctor Sir
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Injuries, like I love you in every universe? It's like met you in
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every un Yeah exactly? Oh boy? Yeah, so oh a waitning game
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unrelated, But I'm very interested to hear Scott's take on the new Superman suit.
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Okay, yeah, well my take, and I don't. Dan is
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a huge Superman fan too, so much so that he actually has a tattoo
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of the Superman emblem on him, and so yeah, we're both big,
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big Superman. So I'm interested in Dan's take too. So they're in the
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shadow, but you can make out that he's got the red trunks. I
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am. I am happy for that. I know it's old fashioned, but
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I don't care. Superman is old fashioned. That's fine, wing too,
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and I'm glad those are there. I think the collar is a little too
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high. I don't like the the high collar little New fifty two for young
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uniform style high collar New fifty two. I could do without that. I
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like the I like the low cut with the with the the cape tucked in.
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But overall it doesn't look bad. Not crazy about the Superman emblem,
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the ass on his chest. I would have liked something a little more traditional.
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Yeah, it's a little kingdom come. Yeah, but you know what,
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I'll give it a fair shake. I give everything a fair shake,
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and I and I check it out. I mean, I went to see
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I hated Man of Steel. Yeah, I went. I went to see
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it opening night. M me too. I gave it a chance. When
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Batman Versus Superman came out, I said, all right, maybe they you
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know, maybe they fixed some stuff. It was horrible. When Justice League
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came out, I was like, all right, you know, third time
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a charm, that's right? Yeah, no good. When they released it
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again as a five hour extravaganza, I subscribed to HBO Max so did I
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just and they got me because I kept that turd service for like two years
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after that, just because it was too lazy to cancel it. Yeah,
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yeah, it was no good. I can cut you know, the Snyder
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Verse. It's gone by. Yeah, I'm not going to miss. The
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problem was saying goodbye to the Snyder Verse. Is it's like any like terrible
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overall story. There was some great moments in that. Gal Gadot as Wonder
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Woman is I think fantastic. There were a few decent moments in Man of
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Steel and a couple of decent moments in Justice League, just like you know,
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uh, they went the just like in Superman Returns. You know,
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Superman Returns as an overall movie was a little underwhelming when you think about it.
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He did throw a single punch in that movie, where in the Snyder
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verse. That's all he does is punch. I mean, he's a that's
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it. But if you look at Superman Returns, it's a much more nuanced
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movie and he plays a much better Clark Kent. It's the same issue that
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Star Trek has. It's the same issue that Star Wars has. Every time
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they try to deviate from the source material, the fans don't like it.
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Sure, there are some people who do, but overall, the majority of
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people do not like the new interpretations. So then they have to reboot,
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go back to the original. But people wanted it originally. So with Star
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Trek you're getting Star Wars, you're getting stuff like the Mandalorian that's more in
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line with what we originally enjoyed. And now that's more popular and people are
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starting to like it, and that seems to be where they're going to go
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now. Right with with DC, you're getting that with the James Gunn universe,
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Right, that's what it appears it's going to do. And now with
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Star Trek even that, the most popular stuff that's been around recently has been
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the reboot of the old stuff. You know, Percards season three and probably
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Strange in the Worlds. Yeah, it's more in line. So same idea.
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It's just people want the shows they want. Yeah. So so I'm
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looking forward to the James Gunn version of Superman. I like. I like
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a lot of the castings so far. So we'll see, you know,
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I'll lap anything up that's got the Man of Steel in it. I'll you
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know, I even watched super Pets because Superman's did it for like five minutes.
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Yeah. Well, should we get to our main topic? Yeah?
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Can we talk? Can we talk a little bit about your interview? Oh?
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Yeah, yeah, you had two interviews. I had two interviews this
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week. Yeah, yep, and I listened to both of them. Well
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done. Yeah, what was he talking? Oh? I thought you said
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you were losing us, and I was like, we can hear you.
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Yeah, I don't know. You guys were all frozen and garbly there from
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a minute. I think we came out of it. Okay, okay,
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okay, all right, all right. Yeah, so I just uh,
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the one that's most fresh in my mind. I just listened to it today
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was the one with William Sadler. Yeah, and that was an amazing interview.
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That was. Uh. The one thing I'd like to mention about that
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is there was a very vulnerable emotional part of it for you where you mentioned
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your mom passing and you were relating that to a part of the movie.
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He just did and I just thought that was that that that really tugged at
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my heart string. So I just thought it was a well done interview,
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and I just thank you for that, and yeah, yeah, thanks,
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really good. Yeah, that was a fun interview to do. I mean,
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they're they're very easy to work with. He was very personable, very
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I just could keep talking. It was great. Yeah, you guys,
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he say, pretty comfortable doing it. You guys seem pretty comfortable talk to
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each other. And the part that I kind of alluded to earlier was you're
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like, you're talking about a co star of his in a New Star Trek
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and he's like, oh, they're making New Star Trek. I know,
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he's like completely unaware of it. No, I get it. He's you
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know, he's Hollywood and probably doesn't. You know, Hollywood, you're either
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really up on what's new, or you you know, you haven't been in
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anything big in a while, or you don't care about what's around you,
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you know, right, And we did ask him if he's going to be
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in the section thirty one movie that's in the interview. He does talk quite
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a bit about it. He also talks about being basically the foundation of Section
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thirty one, which is kind of cool. So if you haven't heard it,
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I definitely recommend all of our listeners checking that out on the podcast feed
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or on YouTube. And then the other the interview did Adele Shepherd. Yeah,
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yeah, yep, she was in Star Trek Picards season two. Correct,
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she was the Helmes of officer. She was in the first episode.
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In the last episode, Helm's Officer of the Tight correct. Yeah, okay,
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Yeah, that was a great interview. She she seemed very cool and
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yeah, she's really She's going to be at the convention that Dan and I
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are going to that Trek Long Island, so we'll get to meet her in
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person. She's got a background in ballet and still does that to this day,
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but also is acting. She was very excited to talk about that she's
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going to be in a Amazon Prime show, but she doesn't know one that's
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going to be released and really can't mention anything else other than it's on Amazon
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right on. Yeah, but yeah, both interviews were a lot of fun
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to do. Both were very cool people so die J back when section thirty
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one in school? Yeah, yeah, yeah, all right, so yeah,
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awesome job that was. That was really fun to watch. Yeah,
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So anything else you wanted to bring up or so I heard her rumor?
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Yeah, yeah, And I don't know. I don't know. I didn't
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I didn't research it all. I don't know. I don't know what to
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make of it yet. But I saw it in a couple different places that
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Disney Plus is planning a Captain America limited series with Chris Evans, basically showing
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him returning the Infinity Stones to the timeline. I'm wondering if you guys,
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if you've heard about it, if from two different sources, yeah, if
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there's anything to back it up. And I heard it from two different sources,
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which doesn't mean an but and I bring it up because what you were
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talking about a minute ago, where these franchises they try to go a different
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route sometimes and there's fan backlash and people don't like it, and what do
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they end up doing. They end up returning to the source material at some
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point. And I have to point out that in America four, which Chris
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Evans is not in, it stars Anthony Mackie as Captain Falcon America. That
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thing is in its like third round of reshoots, yeah, something like that.
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And it's and it's been pushed back multiple times to the point where it's
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affecting the marketing and the merchandising because these things, these movies are planned on
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a timeline. You know, my daughter spent the spent the day with her
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grandfather the other day and she came home with a happy meal, hm,
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and the happy meal was a Captain America Brave New World Happy Meal. And
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I'm like, when is like when is this movie coming out? And I
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looked it up and it's not coming out until next summer, right or or
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or it was supposed to be this summer, and now it's coming out in
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February. But that's like the third time it's been pushed back. And I'm
28:57
thinking about it. And it got to the point where McDonald's had a warehouse
29:02
full of this crop and they're like, we're not holding on to this an
29:06
we don't care when the movies come out. Yeah, the toys and the
29:08
happy meal boxes are are are going yep. So yeah, I don't know.
29:15
I have a suggestion for the people who are if they make a happy
29:22
people suggestion. I have a suggestion for the people that make that Captain America,
29:29
not the movie, the one with Chris Evans. People suggested it six
29:33
episodes. That that makes sense. I get it. I'm saying make it
29:37
seven episodes and make it. This is gonna sound crazy, but make each
29:44
episode actually about returning each stone. Don't turn it into some sort of deconstructed
29:51
crazy storyline that ties into fifteen different things. Just go stone by stone.
29:56
Each one is like an episode of them leap Okay, episode six you return
30:03
the final Stone, and then episode seven is about his decision about whether or
30:11
not to go back or to go seek out Haley Atwell. And so the
30:18
Stone show that has not been confirmed anywhere. It's been a long rumor for
30:22
years and years that they should do a show about that. That's what they
30:26
do. I'm not saying the skipping rocks the show. But but we don't
30:33
know, right, we don't know. It could be an idea, right.
30:37
A lot of times these big companies will leak out stories, see what
30:41
sticks, and then all of a sudden, that's the show, right,
30:45
So we don't know the thing about with the Captain of America movie, Yeah,
30:51
I think there could be some issues with it, but also we have
30:53
to remember they are completely rechanging everything they're doing in the wake of of Jonathan
31:00
Majors and King. Right, yeah, yeah, so we don't know what
31:04
the original script, how much it was tied to King, because there were
31:07
some rumors of that as well, so if they got to go back and
31:11
change everything. There have also been reports of bad uh screenings for the captin
31:18
American movie, so there could be changes for that. So that could explain
31:23
a lot of these Okay, third you know, third round of reshoots to
31:27
make it all work. So what did what did they decide with the Jonathan
31:32
Majors thing? Are they recasting King or are they restructuring the story so he's
31:37
not a major character. Well, i've heard no, they have not said
31:42
that they're gonna recast him. They have not said that they're gonna go think,
31:47
you know, put things in line. What they're saying is go watch
31:49
Deadpool three and you'll see where of where we're gonna go. So that's what
31:55
they're saying. Okay, yeah, all right, they kind of wrote them
32:00
out in Loki season two, like they really did, just kind of leave
32:05
them there and you don't really need to go with them. I think they
32:08
gave themselves an out. So yeah, yeah, because at that point that
32:14
the troubles were just starting to happen, so they they wrote them out.
32:20
Mouse knows what to do, So the mouse knows what to do. I
32:24
don't know, maybe you haven't watched the Star Wars movie lately. That's right,
32:28
that's right. I wouldn't say the mouse knows what to do. Hey,
32:31
the mouse doesn't know about space, but the mouse knows about Earth.
32:34
Yeah, all right, all right, Well we're thirty four minutes and we
32:38
should probably talk about Yeah, let's get to the main topic. Fun will
32:43
now come out, all right. Our main topic is a review of Discovery
32:52
season five, episodes seven. Iar Guy, Mall and Locke only are custody
33:00
the Federation into a diplomatic and ethical firestorm. When the book looks at ways
33:09
to help Tilly, Adira and Reno as they worked the skiper the latest clue
33:15
who's singing was me? Must be someone at the Bowder's Uh hell yeah,
33:25
he's muting his mic signed to someone off camera. Yeah, who's singing?
33:31
That was my son, To be fair to him, he just got done
33:36
finishing his first musical at school. So I did a little volunteer work with
33:40
it. Yesterday they did a musical production of Cinderella. Okay, so they
33:46
did a fantastic job, by the way, like the fairy Tale or like
33:51
the eighties hairband. Yeah, like like the fairy Tale. What are we
34:01
talking about? Sort of star trek things? Yeah, I don't even were
34:06
you even done with your tagline? No? What? Oh? That I
34:09
already read it. Yeah, I'm done. Okay. Yeah. So yeah,
34:15
this episode, this episode, the Greens show up. They're they're pretty
34:20
pissed and that should be the title of this show. And they're pretty shut
34:28
up. Yeah, that they are holding their lunchbox of doom or something.
34:35
I don't know. No, that's the Captain America happy meal, right,
34:38
that is what it is. Okay, Like he's always making no sense.
34:43
Movies not out yet. We will destroy you. We will destroy So here's
34:51
the thing. I kind of like the Breen in this episode. Yeah,
35:00
I kind of liked them, I know, I know, I kind of
35:01
cringed that the whole were liquid people thing that they that they announced a few
35:07
weeks ago. That's that's growing on me. It kind of makes sense with
35:13
their uh if you look back at Deep Space nine. When it was whenever
35:16
it was the Founders, the Breen and the Cardassians in the room together,
35:22
it was it was always the Breen and the and the Founders, and you
35:29
know, the Cardassians would open their mouth and they'd be shushed and pushed to
35:31
the side. Yeah, so the whole, you know, kindred spirits.
35:37
Hey, we're both we're both Plato people, as Shaw calls them. I
35:42
you know, I kinda I'm kind of enjoying that. I think a great
35:47
link, Like great link. Yeah, I think there's a link between the
35:52
Brain and the Founders. I'm not quite sure why they put themselves in these
35:59
suits. I'm not quite sure the whole. They're definitely not all furry.
36:06
I can become a solid, but it's an abomination. I don't quite understand
36:09
all that. But the super aggressive, super powerful, we don't care what
36:15
the Federation says, Breen and the power struggle. I'm kind of enjoying that.
36:22
But at the same time, it got me thinking the Dominion War is
36:29
what like four hundred years ago at this point, right like seven hundred years
36:35
ago. Okay. It kind of got me thinking, how much cooler would
36:40
this storyline be if it took place in the twenty fifth century instead of here,
36:49
including even though I wasn't crazy about the whole progenitor story arc, but
36:55
even if you transplanted that to the twenty fifth century tree where because the Dominion
37:00
War would mean something where Picard is still around. People who fought in the
37:06
Dominion War are still around at this point in history. They keep referring to
37:09
the Dominion War. But at this point in history, you know, that's
37:15
like us talking about stuff that happened in the Middle Ages, like like it
37:19
like it affects us personally, right, right, we don't have any emotions
37:23
about, you know, any of that stuff. The Crusades, even the
37:28
Revolutionary War, we didn't, you know. Yeah, so you understand what
37:34
it got. But something Dad said was interesting, Liquid people. Is that
37:38
how they're doing the brain now? Yes? Liquid people? Happy hour,
37:45
jumpy be happy hour. Yeah. So this lady's pissed off because, uh,
37:55
what's his name? Is dead right lot. I still don't feel any
38:01
connection between the two of them. I still don't get it, get it,
38:06
there's no chemistry, Yeah, nope. I mean when they kissed each
38:12
other, it was like watching Kira kiss Odo. Yeah, at least I
38:16
mean there, at least with kiaren Odo, there was a personality connection.
38:22
There was a little bit of chemistry personality wise, but well, at that
38:24
point, we had five years to care about both of those people, right
38:29
or three years whatever it was. I don't remember when it when it started,
38:32
But there was no physical chemistry between any of these characters. Yeah,
38:37
I mean, I suffer for the people. And they had both actors on
38:39
The wil Wheaton Show, and personally it seemed like they really enjoyed each other's
38:45
company and they were friendly and all that. That just doesn't translate to the
38:47
show as the issue. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I feel like this
38:57
episode was kind of a placeholder in some respects. Yeah, a little bit
39:00
of filler. Did we say that about the episode last week? Yeah?
39:05
Yes, yes. And when you only have ten episodes in a season,
39:07
that's a little bit weird. What do we got left? We got like
39:10
three three? Yeah, hopefully we get more jet Reno all together. So
39:21
jet Reno, who's a who's a uh uh what she's like a book expert
39:27
or something? Yeah, yeah, she's an ancient text Yeah, she's an
39:30
ancient text expert. Yeah, except like that she's from eight hundred years ago,
39:37
so all of her expertise is incredibly dated. And then not only they're
39:42
asking her about twenty fifth century stuff. She doesn't know any more than you
39:45
do, right, And then she's like, yeah, not really, I'm
39:49
not really an expert and that was eight hundred years ago. So yeah,
39:51
yeah, but watch me help anyway. Yeah, she said, I've added
39:54
my resume, but watched me help anyways. Because they said that she was
39:59
a smuggler, So now she's on solo. Yeah, she's a little bit
40:04
of whatever they need anyone. For anyone who has kids and watches Pepa Pig,
40:07
she's missus Rabbit. Oh, they'll get that reference in missus Rabbit does
40:14
everything every time. They're like, oh, we're going to the store,
40:15
missus Rabbit works there. We're going to the post office, she delivers the
40:19
mail. We're gonna file. Fly a plane. She's a pilot. Yeah,
40:22
okay, so that's jet reno. Yeah fair enough. Oh come on,
40:31
if you can talk about Paddington, I can talk about Peppa Pig.
40:34
No no, no, no, no, just like, is he done
40:37
talking about Peppa Pig yet? Miss Rabbit's Rabbit? Three more episodes? Sound
40:49
like you're in prison counting down the days. Yeah, unfortunately I have not
40:54
had good behaviors, so I have to serve all of that's right, Yeah,
41:00
what is this abomination? T Bear Pig is better than Paddington. I've
41:06
never seen Pepa Pig, so no, I I still have to see Paddington
41:10
too. No you don't, No one does. Is it good? It's
41:19
Paddington won it was? It's it's what I call it's my definition of a
41:22
perfect movie. It's it's it's it's the storyline flows perfectly that there's a beginning,
41:30
middle, and end. It's it's it's a perfect movie. So tell
41:37
me more about Peppa Pig? Is that like? Is that animated? It's
41:42
an animated it's a British tyler. Do you know what Peppa Pig is?
41:45
You do? He's like yeah, like, which which is funny because a
41:50
lot of American kids watch it, so you have a lot of American toddlers
41:53
now developing British accents, which is kind of kind of funny. Okay,
41:59
so it's a pritty Okay, British said has record for the shortest recap.
42:02
Y no, no, no, we're still we're still talking. So let's
42:07
do our let's let's do our our one nice thing because I actually have I
42:12
actually have one. No when I when I I can't remember her name,
42:21
but when the President of Navarre is like, yeah, I speak Breen,
42:25
sucker. Yeah that was a good uh yeah, I mean it was kind
42:32
of a trope with that. She's like, I think blah blah blah blah
42:43
is the more precise translation. That was a good Yeah, yeah it is.
42:47
It is a bit of a trope, but Breen is so different than
42:53
everything we've heard that it's still kind of worked in that situation. Yeah,
43:01
no, that was that was a great bull But that was a great bullet.
43:07
See. I just like Superman. It's it's it's just like Man of
43:08
Steel, Start Star Trek, Discovery. It's it's a lot of it's crap,
43:14
but there are some great moments, you know. That's why I can
43:19
still watch Discovery. I can still watch Bad of Steel. M schnyder cut.
43:27
I will say, for my for my good moment, I really like
43:30
the idea of feuding houses within the Breen Empire and they're all vine for control.
43:36
I think that's really interesting and I think you could do way more cool
43:38
stuff with that. I'm sure. Yeah, if you had two or three
43:42
more seasons that would be great to flesh that out. And yeah, you
43:45
know, have like a Kason thing going on, or or like a Romulin
43:50
Greemus thing going on. Yeah, love, I would love it if the
43:54
brain was sort of like the dominion of you know, discover. But they
44:01
they never were able to have anything kind of coalesce and become like a centralized
44:07
thing, you know, right, And you could you could argue that that
44:09
because they're always internally fighting. So yeah that yeah, So what else where
44:20
where are we at in this episode? Like? What what where we got
44:23
the last clue? No, we didn't get the last clue. We're looking
44:27
for the last clue. They're going to that library for the last clue.
44:30
That's right, the floating the floating space library. So they've got floating space
44:36
seed places. They've got floating library places. Okay, I'm just gonna I'm
44:43
gonna call it the I'm gonna call it Wikipedia Station, Wikipedia Station. We're
44:50
gonna go to Wikipedia Station for sure. Yeah, hell, Wikipedia Station.
44:55
So they got the Wikipedia Station and the Farm and Fleet Station. Okay,
45:02
nobody navigates the Muddy Bottle like Captain Peppin. Yep, exactly there's mud in
45:08
that nebula. There's mud in that nebula. I don't know what any of
45:13
that means. I don't either. It's funny though, you know, there
45:20
are no uh on on IMDb. There are no like goofs or or interesting
45:28
facts or anything. And I noticed that when the episodes are good and a
45:30
lot of people watch them, people scramble to get online that are members of
45:35
IMDb so they can write down their interesting facts. There are no interesting facts
45:39
about this episode. So that means that nobody cared enough to log onto IMDb
45:46
and write them down, because there's a lot of stuff they could do.
45:51
You know, they mentioned the Dominion Wars. Stuff like that. They they'll
45:53
usually write down, you know, in their interesting facts. Oh, they
45:58
mentioned the Dominion War from face. Well, here's the Rotten Tomato score of
46:01
season five so far. It's an eight with the critics, but only eighteen
46:06
reviews from critics, and it's a twenty percent from the audience score with hundreds
46:09
of ratings from the audio tracks that tracks. It's artistically, you know,
46:15
from a all we talked about before a visual standpoint, it's it's beautiful.
46:20
They they they touched on storylines that Hollywood loves so action critics here, Yeah,
46:28
what's up with Saru man? They keep writing them off every episode,
46:31
like, oh, SARU's busy over here, now, Sreu's busy over there.
46:34
Now. You take the best characters of Discovery and you give them the
46:37
least amount of screen time. I mean, we everybody loves Srew, I
46:39
love Chilli, we all, we all love He's going to save the day
46:45
in the in the last episode or the second to last episode, or or
46:50
something. They made. They made a point early in this season of building
46:53
him up as you know, Action Action. This is the fifth year no
46:59
one's ever you know, talked about him like that. But they they put
47:02
it in our heads in the beginning of the season that there's this that they
47:07
think of him this this, they think of him this way. So yeah,
47:13
I hit my cable. The belts full of bullets that you wear across
47:15
her chest like band yeah, vandalier. Yeah, he's gonna have a couple
47:20
of those on at the very last minute of you, I'm sorry, he's
47:28
gonna have He's gonna just pop it at the last minute, just be like
47:30
Action through with his little neck needle things bad. He's gonna save the day
47:37
I'll kill those breed. He's gonna have You know, you can't come in.
47:42
It's it's a he's coming in with with with two pistols. Now he's
47:45
coming in with twelve twelve replicators on his heart like go go gadget now,
47:52
yeah, go go gadget replicator hand cannons yep, yeah, yeah, they'll
47:59
still irk me. So Rus steps in with some cool shades and mini gun
48:04
smoking a cigar. Oh boy, yeah, looking like Duke nukemb Welcome to
48:17
Trek Cast, the Star Trek podcast for people over forty. There you go,
48:22
Duke. Yeah, Scott, you didn't say you're you're positive thing for
48:30
the episode? Yeah, I did. Jet Janet Reno okay, yeah,
48:36
Janet Reno, she's amazing and I I uh, I still love Tilly.
48:43
I think she's great. Well she had this. I can't even I don't
48:45
even remember that it all blood together now, Oh my god, darn,
48:49
I have actually Drew Drew fe my tiny pricks. God. Oh no,
49:00
o oh boy, that man Brooks got good job. It's not just what
49:12
he said, it's also your delivery. Oh I caught it easter egg.
49:19
Yeah. When they talked about they talked they talked about a beta z or
49:27
a betazoid uh something or other with the uh the yeah mentioned they were telepassed.
49:37
Yeah, and the the betas said character betazoid character that they mentioned,
49:45
uh the name was Marina, which is obviously a reference to the first betazoid
49:52
we've ever met in Star Trek, played by Marina Servis. Yeah. I'm
50:00
now they're gone from Duke Seru. It's time to shoot needles and chew bubble
50:04
gum and I'm a let of com Oh boy, all right, well,
50:12
uh, there are a lot of there's a lot of one star reviews on
50:20
IMDb and there're one star out of ten, Like one says, seriously,
50:25
where would Star Trek no, sorry, the world no scrap that. Where
50:29
would the universe universe be if it didn't have Michael like uh uh Like they're
50:37
so over her already? Yeah, yeah, once again to the rescue Captain
50:45
Burnham. Yeah. Yeah, you know what. What what cracks me up
50:51
is she gets really irritated by Rainer m hm because he's just like her.
51:00
Yeah yeah, absolutely, he's just like her. I don't care how many
51:05
pips are on your collar. I'm gonna tell you that you're wrong and this
51:08
is how it should be done. And he's just like her. Yeah,
51:13
Rainer acts like some old master sergeant that just does not care anymore. Like
51:19
he doesn't care about rank, he doesn't care about his position. He just
51:22
you know, he And it's not like he was a captain of a starship
51:30
so he knows how to act, especially if you're sitting in a room with
51:34
your you know, other captains and ambassadors and admirals. But he just gives
51:37
zero f's and you know, I don't know. It's says, why is
51:44
there so much wisch spreing in this show? You can't hear crap? Yeah,
51:49
I don't know. Yeah, well they did. They also mentioned they
51:52
did mention there specifically the Breen attack. They said, uh, you know,
51:59
Earth has been attacked four by the Breen. They're talking about that episode
52:01
where the Breen makes it all the way to Earth and destroys half of San
52:07
Francisco, right, you know there's that wide shot of like it was during
52:12
the Dominion War on d phase nine. Yeah, how do I not remember
52:16
that? So there was They didn't show the attack on screen. They just
52:22
said Earth has been attacked. They reached the defenses. No Dominion or Breen
52:28
ships survived the attack, but they just wanted to deal a psychological morale blow
52:34
to the Federation. And they did this wide shot where they showed the Golden
52:38
gate Bridge like half half falling apart. Yeah. Yeah, And it was
52:44
supposed to be a demoralizing you know. And there was a conversation between Wayoun
52:49
and the founder and and and the Brain commander about you know, the They
52:54
were saying, oh, it was a good you know, morale strike.
52:57
And yes they lost half the ships, but or most of their ships.
53:00
So yeah, yeah, it's up on Memory Alpha. There's the image that
53:08
Scott's talking about. I think it was just before the episode or during the
53:13
episode where Cisco goes back to Starfleet headquarters and they want to declare martial law
53:19
and and they're they're you know, they're they're paranoid that everybody's change lane and
53:25
you know, yeah, is like you know this is BS and yeah,
53:30
yeah, but you know again, this is eight hundred years ago. It's
53:37
not real. It's not relevant at this point. No, no, the
53:42
are you know, the United States, the United States strongest ally of the
53:50
last sixty years is Great Britain, right, Okay, And two hundred years
53:55
ago, they burned the White House and the Capitol to the ground, right,
54:00
So yeah, this is four times this long ago, right, and
54:06
you think in the future things are even more fast paced. So yeah,
54:08
yeah, yeah, Well should we get to a listener feedback? Sure?
54:15
Yeah, listener feedback? All right, we have some people who have already
54:25
xed up and are waiting for us. So got Chas Biz and t Bar
54:30
waiting, So let's get to Chazbis and we'll get to te Bear there is
54:34
hello, welcome back. I got value. Man. You you you gotta
54:40
stop molesting statues, at least if you're gonna if you're gonna molest them,
54:46
you can't post pictures because I can't tell you how many comments I had to
54:52
not approve. Really yeah, really yeah, yeah. People were not happy
55:00
our our tear guide said it was lucky to touch it. Yeah, well
55:07
that's what they said. And she she said it, and so everybody else
55:09
is like, okay, so that's why. But you have to remove smooth
55:15
right there. That's why it's all polished on her breast. What you have
55:19
to remember is that the trek cast Facebook group is a is a public group.
55:25
So that picture that picture is is viewable by literally anyone with a Facebook
55:30
account in the world. There are some nasty a holes out there that.
55:39
Yeah, so your tour guide said it provides luck. So I mean you
55:45
must hear the character Jinks from Deadpool. I mean you must be the luckiest
55:50
man on the planet. Now. There it is there, and that's why
55:53
it's so smooth right there, like it's all polished on that area. So
55:59
why here's the thing. It was all one color before Chas Biz got there.
56:02
Yeah, it was a solid it was all patina. Yeah. Then
56:10
right after that, that's when I got cold and got sick, sod.
56:15
So that's always well at least, I mean, you didn't start feeling bad
56:19
till you got back right or was it right there? I got it there.
56:22
It was all being sick on vacation sucks. But overall, how was
56:27
across the pond? I have another picture where these two actually it's three Icelandic
56:35
ladies gave me. It was like Jaegermeister or something like that, and it
56:43
was weird. I said by and they're like, are you American? And
56:45
I said, yes, I'm American. You know, of course, because
56:47
I got my big trick cash shirt on and it's like, well, we're
56:52
you know, we're teachers, and we had to have somebody drink car local
56:58
drink from Iceland, right, what is it. It's like this weird yeggermeister
57:01
type thing. So I had to drink it. It was like and then
57:05
the next thing we gotta do is pick some one up, hold them in
57:08
the air, and then we got to find a no. And I'm like,
57:13
well, you're not picking my ass up, oh way too much.
57:15
So I was waiting for you to say you woke up in the tub full
57:20
of ice. But it was weird. I was like, sitting there,
57:29
do you get the sausage roll? No? I didn't. I did not
57:32
get a sausage troll. I had English breakfast, I had you know,
57:37
I had a bunch of French food. Had a went on the Paddington bus.
57:43
Yeah that was cool. Okay, they pitched you on a seat about
57:50
all of them that wide right, So two people are on that seat.
57:53
I'm a big guy, and my wife's on that seat. And so we're
57:57
riding around England, you know, all around London for about an hour and
58:00
a half of his tiny seat in front of the bus. You got to
58:04
ask for an American size seat. Yeah, this was a bad idea.
58:14
That's awesome, But you watch this week's episode. Yes, I watched this
58:21
week's episode, watched the last week's and I had a hard time staying up
58:24
for this week's episode because my time change and everything. Yeah yeah, yeah,
58:30
the time change change. And like do I really care about a lot?
58:36
And why is starfullet security so bad? Yea, even in this century?
58:43
Why is like, you guys have all this technology, you let this
58:46
girl like run around your ship take take it over? Crazy idea, crazy
58:53
idea. Lock the door? Yeah, put do they have door locks?
58:59
I mean security sale because she's a criminal and I have him by lock the
59:05
mid bay and yeah, keep her informed and say like, hey, he's
59:08
doing all right, he's recovering. And I don't know, I don't know.
59:15
I mean they was able to lock down an entire ship by himself.
59:19
I keep everybody on board at bay and they couldn't keep Yeah, I can't.
59:24
They have force fields and can moves now like they have like all this
59:31
other crap just in the transporters has nothing to do with the technology. It's
59:37
it's the procedures. I don't know if any of you have ever been inside
59:40
a correctional facility, but no two doors are open at the same time.
59:45
Correct, So if you're moving through the facility, you get to this door,
59:50
you buzz it gets buzzed open, you open the door, you close
59:53
it behind you. You go to the next door, and if there's another
59:57
door open anywhere in the area, you gotta wait that one doesn't open.
1:00:01
So that's just simple procedure. You let the force go down and sick Bay,
1:00:06
well you put one up at the door. Yeah, you can't get
1:00:08
out, right, you know. Speaking of procedures, another thing that bugs
1:00:13
me, not only Star Trek but everywhere else is they always handcuffed the people
1:00:16
in front of them with handcuffs that let them pretty much do whatever they want
1:00:22
to do, you know. I mean, she's like handcuff front of her.
1:00:25
Stever says, it's the bumbling security guard trope. Yeah. Yeah,
1:00:30
the Keystone cops of Patrick and then walk pretty much you know, he kills
1:00:35
himself like in Jackson right all that I was like, that didn't make any
1:00:37
sense either, No, I know, yeah, I know, he's a
1:00:44
patient, but he's still a prisoner. He should not be able to access
1:00:47
his own medication. That's just still that's ridiculous. Yeah, I know.
1:00:53
Yeah, you know she's a prisoner too, but you know she's going to
1:00:58
be right by his bedsides. Just yeah, just stop. That doesn't happen.
1:01:05
But it was. I don't know, Like, I don't know what
1:01:07
they're leading up to, Like we have three episodes left. I don't think
1:01:10
they know. Yeah, I don't. I'm telling you, man, then
1:01:15
that friendship is the magic power that they all could yet by friendship. I
1:01:22
know supposedly they wrote and and and filmed this months ago, but part of
1:01:28
me, in the back of my body is thinking, like today they're like,
1:01:30
Okay, I guess we have to put the finishing touches on the last
1:01:34
So can can the Breen not turned back into a liquid? Is he solid
1:01:39
now? And that's it, He's just stuck as a solid. I don't
1:01:43
know, man, because you know they had Colbert said he he had damage
1:01:50
to some internal organ but I don't know enough about it. So we need
1:01:52
a Breen medic or whatever. Well, if he turns back into goo,
1:02:01
I don't buy that. I don't know. Okay, that's another thing.
1:02:05
I don't buy the I don't know enough about his physiology, you know,
1:02:08
Uh, doctor McCoy bull crap. Scan the organ, figure out what it
1:02:13
does, and then stitch it back together. That's what Scott does. That's
1:02:19
what I do. That's what I do. Just scan the organ, figure
1:02:22
out what it does. Yeah, you use your AI to say, Okay,
1:02:27
well it looks like it does this and it helps that, so let's
1:02:30
just make it undamaged. Right, it's a it's a it's a mcguffin gland.
1:02:36
Yeah, if you could give Neelix holographic lungs, why not just give
1:02:44
him a holographic organ. There you go, scan it, figure out what
1:02:46
it does. Yeah, I bet they could in the future you have a
1:02:50
holographic organ, like yeah, you have to wear a holo mitter or something
1:02:54
just to keep it going temporarily and then get exactly Actually, that would be
1:03:00
pretty cool. That's a good idea. Yeah. Yeah, I'm going to
1:03:05
write my surgeon in general right now. It's a holographic organs for everybody.
1:03:08
Yeah, all right, And then interview with William Sadler, Right, yeah,
1:03:17
why didn't you ask him about his ass and die Hard too? Was
1:03:22
that really his ass? It was right there Because you're working out really hard
1:03:30
doing TAI at the getting in that movie. I want to know, is
1:03:35
that really your ass? You remember? Do you remember, Daniel, do
1:03:39
you remember back in the day, like you named the shows before we filmed
1:03:44
them. Now, but back in the day, we used to name the
1:03:45
shows afterwards, and it would be some obscure thing that happened on the show.
1:03:52
If we still did that, like the name of this episodeould be treck
1:03:54
cast number whatever, whatever, William Sadler's ass. I'd like it, maybe
1:03:59
because they do that again. The only problem with that is it made it
1:04:01
really hard to follow what episode we were watching. Yeah, you know,
1:04:09
I'd be trying to find like Discovery season one episode whatever and all. It
1:04:13
is like, I think hellas a Double Dog. I think that's William Sadler's
1:04:16
ass. I think I remember being ten years old seeing the movie in the
1:04:21
theater with my dad and my dad looking ever like, oh my god,
1:04:26
it's like, what did I pick this kid to? It's ever since I've
1:04:31
seen die Hard too, So I didn't remember during the interview he didn't mention
1:04:38
die Hard to. Yeah, he didn't got to read that. You got
1:04:40
to read that last uh Yeah, asking the tough questions, asking asking the
1:04:47
tough answer. That's awesome. That'd be the first thing I'd ask him because
1:04:56
it's like that's like imprinted on my head as a little kid seeing that in
1:04:59
the theater and William Sadler's as imprinted on your head like die hard to Uh,
1:05:10
all right, jazz is well, thanks for being on. We got
1:05:13
a lot of other people, So all right, you say, buddy,
1:05:16
yeah, all right, we got a t bear also waiting to let's bring
1:05:19
him on. There he is, who's uh, who's asked you want to
1:05:26
talk about? Go ahead? Is that Taylor? That is Taylor? Oh
1:05:33
yeah, it's a record. It's funny because uh, it was a it
1:05:39
was a Christmas gag gift. It also came along with the Kelsey Oh yeah,
1:05:45
great football. That's great. My kids don't really care for her music,
1:05:49
so I've been keeping it there and threatening them if they don't do well,
1:05:54
they're behaving badly, I'm going to play that likely excuse is a gag
1:05:58
gift. You're probably the biggest twifty out there. Probably let us see your
1:06:04
tailor swift tattoo. Yeah, let me hide the posters. Well, actually,
1:06:13
I just want to mention the shirt from the experience, so like twice,
1:06:21
so it's one of those where I'm probably preserving these shirts more than wearing
1:06:25
them. Oh wow, very cool. But I wanted to talk about,
1:06:30
you know, season six, season five, episode six. You know,
1:06:35
it's that episode where Gerald Giraffe was a new kid in the school and all
1:06:41
the other kids out. It takes me like half a beat that I'm like,
1:06:49
I don't think he's talking about Star Trek. I think I remember how
1:06:54
this one ends. Does he doesn't know anybody, but he's since he's super
1:06:58
tall, he's able to help them. Isn't that this episode? God,
1:07:01
yep, yep. Yeah. I think they got the turtle or something out
1:07:06
of the tree. Yeah. Yeah, I'm gonna have to post on the
1:07:17
I'm gonna have to post on our Facebook group because my mom's in the background
1:07:21
taking photos of me looking like an idiot. So I'm gonna post those pictures
1:07:28
on Facebook. Oh god, all right, pepper cast Yeah, because even
1:07:39
my mom's like, what the hell are you guys talking about? Yeah,
1:07:45
okay, let me check that one off my list here. It's funny.
1:07:50
Every time I watched the show, I end up coming up. Well,
1:07:53
I think you said, someone said last week was I watched the show and
1:07:58
it's not that bad. And then I come down the Trek cast and I
1:08:00
realized, oh man, I missed all those issues with the writing or the
1:08:04
plot holes. But so the lesson is, no, one, don't don't
1:08:09
watch casts. We're all so excited to watch these episodes because it's Star Trek,
1:08:15
It's it's Dan and I watching Justice League, going, god, I
1:08:19
really want this to be good. I really hope this is good. This
1:08:23
is my favorite character, my favorite franchise. This has to be good.
1:08:28
Ah it sucked. Yeah. Yeah, it's not the characters, it's not
1:08:32
Star Trek, it's the it's the writing. But it's all like one could
1:08:41
be good, Like it's all the elements are there, they're just little tweaks
1:08:45
and it would be great. It's that potential. I think that that's the
1:08:48
most courting. Yeah, I'm I'm convinced that tig Nataro writes our own lines.
1:08:54
Oh, I'm sure, because they're good. They're all good. Yeah,
1:08:58
No one caught seven of lines. Yeah what did I miss? She
1:09:05
called a drink seven of limes. Yeah yeah, I wasn't sure what to
1:09:11
make of that, but I did to which I was wondering, though,
1:09:15
how does she know about seventh and she's pre she basically skipped over next gym
1:09:21
or I'm sorry, voyager, I'm sure everybody took a crash course on twenty
1:09:26
fifth through thirty second century, whatever century they're in, you know, that
1:09:31
would be a that would be a really great thing to do, is fill
1:09:34
in that gap of what happened in that timeframe, so we really know why
1:09:39
they made a seven of Lime's joke, and maybe when she was captain of
1:09:42
some kind of starship maybe maybe like a legacy kind of episode or show.
1:09:46
Yeah, maybe seven saved the planet of Limes and or there was a Lime
1:09:50
shortage and she was able to save all. We could explore that whole time
1:09:59
era, like a twenty fifth century. I do know that somewhere somebody made
1:10:04
a graphic that was how to make a seven of Limes drink, So yeah,
1:10:11
okay, I look for that. Yeah, but the waiting Game Star
1:10:15
drink fan is starting to feel like being in a Milwaukee Brewers fan. Every
1:10:19
year we saw that this is our year only ends in disappointment. That's like,
1:10:23
yeah, that's like being a right Lions fan. Yeah every year,
1:10:30
yeah, every year, every episode. Yeah, Yeah, my one good
1:10:35
thing, I guess it was nice to see Commander non back. Yeah so
1:10:40
that. Yeah, she's cool. I like her. Yeah, yeah,
1:10:44
she's better security guards. But yeah, it was great to see her.
1:10:48
Everyone who works for her is horrible. But they got rid of her,
1:10:55
her thing, her metal. They explained that in the last episode she was
1:10:59
in. Oh yeah, they said something about either a she doesn't need them
1:11:03
or be their internal I don't remember which one, but she still has because
1:11:09
you also noticed that her eyes are different too, Yeah, and that was
1:11:13
from spending time on her homeworld or something the Bizarre and home world. Yeah,
1:11:19
so don't worry. Only three episodes left. Yeah, and they'll be
1:11:24
ending the program at the very last episode, and like we'll come out of
1:11:27
the holidck with uh Deanna and we'll be fine. Yeah. Anything else you
1:11:39
want to bring up? T Bear, No other than you know, my
1:11:44
favorite character is miss Rabbit. I mean absolutely absolutely. I thought I ended
1:11:51
on that fantastic. Thanks, all right, hold on, my mom just
1:11:58
handed me and no, she says her up, I'm getting hungry. Stop
1:12:00
talking about this credit. I'm just kidding. She goes, I did not
1:12:10
just called me a brat, as you should be. Yeah, she's not
1:12:15
wrong, and then we also have hipster Spot coming on. Hey Heyboddy,
1:12:19
Hey, yeah, are you okay cool? I haven't been on for a
1:12:25
very long time, so I thought i'd drop in and say hello to you
1:12:28
guys, and you No, Trek is still sort of part of my life.
1:12:34
I still have all my all my like ships, and I still own
1:12:39
the DVDs and stuff I've been them. And in fact, I think there's
1:12:45
something to be said about owning like physical like you know, physical media like
1:12:51
for sure, because I mean, if you when I signed up for Netflix,
1:13:00
I start to realize that some of the TS episodes look different because they
1:13:06
did all types of digital stuff on it. And then that got me thinking
1:13:11
if they can do that too, Like a lot of the episodes, they
1:13:15
can change it whenever they want, and they could take scenes out and all
1:13:19
that stuff. So it's better to have the physical media and you can just
1:13:26
make sure that you have all the scenes and all the parts that you remember.
1:13:31
Yeah. Yeah, it's a very good point of something Star Wars fans
1:13:34
have been struggling with, and so that's one of the things that you know,
1:13:43
you got to defend your right to have like physical media, like if
1:13:48
you have the chance to get DVDs. I mean at a really good deal,
1:13:54
you should get it. What was it in France a few years ago
1:13:59
they had a streaming service that went out of business where people could buy like
1:14:02
digital files, you know, like a movie or whatever. But then when
1:14:06
they shut it down, they said, well technically you never owned it.
1:14:10
There's a long term rental. So yeah, yeah, I will be slowly
1:14:15
collecting all the star trek uh Blu rays and DVDs, not Discovery, but
1:14:21
everything else you know. Uh yeah, that's all the lower Decks stuff Lower
1:14:26
Decks and Picard and yeah and Strange New Worlds first, Yeah, that's yeah.
1:14:38
Well it's like you can't get a copy of ET anymore with them carrying
1:14:42
with the FBI agents carrying guns. That's true. So yeah, that's that's
1:14:48
the one thing. And I mean, like I said, the or I
1:14:53
mentioned a few episodes ago, whatever, I haven't been watching. I don't
1:14:58
even do the torrent thing because you know, so I just follow along as
1:15:03
you guys follow along. Yeah that's my homework there, and so you know,
1:15:13
I thank you guys for your sacrifice. We are the real heroes,
1:15:18
aren't we. Daniel say it. We suffer for the people and all those
1:15:25
dead brain cells did not go in vain. There you go, there you
1:15:30
go. Yeah, I just thought I stop by and say hello, and
1:15:33
you know, keep up the good work. And uh yeah I posted something
1:15:38
about Pepa peg On on the Facebook group. Yeah so great, that's it
1:15:46
nice, thank you? All right. I want to write a song called
1:15:51
the Heroes of Trek Cast that is done in the style of the Heroes of
1:15:56
Canton from Firefly. What's that? Don't even get me started? Dan greatest.
1:16:10
Yeah, it's one of the greatest sci fi shows of all time.
1:16:13
It's one of the stargates. I forgot no starget Firefly got it. I'm
1:16:17
so glad I'm not going to Long Island? Or is that one of the
1:16:19
Doctor doctor what? Yeah, it's a one of the doctor doctor when that's
1:16:25
doctor when got it? You know. It's funny because when like four years
1:16:29
ago, when you guys were talking about uh sci fi stuff and somebody mentioned
1:16:32
Firefly, I think both at least Daniel was like, oh, yeah,
1:16:36
great show, great show, loved it. Yeah, I've never seen the
1:16:41
show. I saw the you watched it, Yeah you watched it out of
1:16:45
order? Yeah, no, I just I just watched the one the one
1:16:48
movie there's fire Fly and it's available on Netflix, so it's it's one of
1:16:55
the greatest sci fi shows of all time. I love. I watched the
1:16:58
movie first and then I watched the show. Yeah, Nathan Fillian's awesome,
1:17:01
Marina Bakron Summer Glau, It's uh. Mike Medina did have a question for
1:17:09
us, and it was, if you have your phaser sets to stunt,
1:17:13
why would you feel compelled to warn your target to drop the weapon? Why
1:17:16
not just shoot them right there? Yeah, that's a good point. Tactics
1:17:21
haven't been a See. That's the thing. There are no real world tactics
1:17:26
for them to draw upon for phasers on stun as effectively as they work in
1:17:30
Star Trek, like if you can, you know, I would imagine law
1:17:33
enforcement or even the military wud be a lot different tactically if they had a
1:17:38
uh, you know, completely non lethal effective every time stun setting. Yeah.
1:17:44
Yeah, that's true, you know, and not like you know,
1:17:46
tasers, because I've I've seen video of like tasers just pissing the guy off.
1:17:51
So it's true. I've been tastes. I ever tell you guys that
1:17:57
no is that is that for space? Yes, okay, I was.
1:18:03
I was actually a taser instructor for uh okay, yeah, some time.
1:18:08
And it's cool. Part of that is they don't they don't. They don't
1:18:14
make you get taste. They strongly suggest that you volunteer to be taste and
1:18:19
this, and there's a bit of hazing that occurs if you don't. So
1:18:24
you know the kind of bake you do it? Yeah? I do?
1:18:28
Yeah, it was uh I do it. It was excruciatingly painful. I
1:18:32
bet, I bet A waiting game's got a good question. Never thought about
1:18:39
this, but if vaser is set to kill, does shot placement matter or
1:18:43
you always dead? I've always thought it was a nervous system thing. Yeah,
1:18:47
that's because they could just vaporize you and that you know that that doesn't
1:18:53
matter. But I think that, well, vaporize this when you don't want
1:18:55
evidence, right, you want to kill this guy or do we want to
1:19:00
completely erase him from the timeline, right, why not simply vaporize him?
1:19:05
Yeah? Yeah, yeah, I don't know. I mean they've also talked
1:19:11
about, you know, having phasers with a stunt setting but a wide dispersal,
1:19:17
right, so you know, oh, we can stun everybody in the
1:19:20
room. Well, you kind of just wrote yourself into a corner there,
1:19:23
because why would you Why wouldn't you always stun everyone in the room. If
1:19:30
you ever, if you have a room full of if you have a room
1:19:32
full of enemies, and you also have unarmed civilians or your own people scattered
1:19:40
throughout the room, stun everybody. Level three wide beam boom with stun everybody.
1:19:45
Then you go through and you and you, you know, take care
1:19:49
of the bad people and offer medical attention to everyone else. Yeah, you
1:19:55
pick up the alix, you dust them off, you say sorry, buddy,
1:19:58
you're in the spot after dinner last night. You kind of had that
1:20:02
coming. Yeah, come up, you dust them off, you say sorry,
1:20:09
You shoot him again, like oops, oh my bad buddy. They
1:20:15
painted themselves in the corner with that, and they painted themselves in the corner
1:20:17
with a continuous beam as opposed to a pulse action den action action. Dad,
1:20:26
it's just phaser. I got all you mother efforts. Awesome. Yeah,
1:20:36
well I think that pretty much wraps it up. Well. Like I
1:20:42
was saying, I will not be here next weekend. So okay, I'm
1:20:46
going up to the Blessing of the bikes on my motorcycle and so it will
1:20:53
be out of reach. Sounds good, Well, Dan and I will figure
1:20:57
it out. Yeah, we'll see you guys. All right, take care,
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