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Skye Wheatley & Lachy Waugh Call It Quits · Outspoken the Podcast

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  Speaker 1: Hello and welcome to Outspoken. It's your dose of the
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  Speaker 1: hottest influencer.
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  Speaker 2: And pop culture news twice a week.
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  Speaker 1: I'm Kate Torber and coming up on today's show, Ashley
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  Speaker 1: Bynes abruptly cancels her podcast tour and Tammy Hembrough and
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  Speaker 1: the Brownlow snub. But first, after seven years together, Sky
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  Speaker 1: Wheatley and baby daddy Lockie Waugh have called it quits.
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  Speaker 1: The former Big Brother star made the admission during an
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  Speaker 1: Instagram live Now, Soph, Skye appeared to be quite.
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  Speaker 2: Intoxicated throughout the live.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, it seemed like she had had quite a bit
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  Speaker 1: to drink when she jumped on the live. She is
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  Speaker 1: currently holidaying at an Airbnb on the Sunshine Coast with
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  Speaker 1: her two kids, Forrest and Bear, and Lockie has been
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  Speaker 1: notably absent from the trip. Now, for weeks, speculation has
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  Speaker 1: been growing that Skye and Lockie are no longer together,
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  Speaker 1: but nothing had been confirmed until now. And these sort
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  Speaker 1: of breakup rumors have plagued the couple for years now.
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  Speaker 1: Often they'll go... often Lockie will be MIA from Sky
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  Speaker 1: Socials and then appear again, and they don't really discuss
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  Speaker 1: what's happened.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, they sort of touched on the fact that
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  Speaker 2: they went on a break a while ago.
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  Speaker 1: I think a lot of the speculation also comes from
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  Speaker 1: the fact that they're very honest.
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  Speaker 2: About their relationship.
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  Speaker 1: They air a lot of their arguments, which they've been
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  Speaker 1: having through their renovation process of their house, which has
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  Speaker 1: been going on for a very long time now. Now,
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  Speaker 1: Sky confirmed the split during this live, and she responded
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  Speaker 1: to a follower who asked if Lockie had cheated on her.
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  Speaker 1: She said, I don't know, maybe. Now, funnily enough, it
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  Speaker 1: was actually her sister Kayla who went into bat for
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  Speaker 1: Lockie in the comment section saying, from a sister's point
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  Speaker 1: of view, looking into their relationship, I don't think Lockie
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  Speaker 1: would cheat. I think we probably have to take Sky's
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  Speaker 1: comment with a grain of salt because As you mentioned, Sophie,
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  Speaker 1: she did appear to be quite intoxicated during the live. So,
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  Speaker 1: you know, she might just be saying, well, who knows?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Well, as soon as I heard this news, all I
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  Speaker 1: could think about again was their house because they've been
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  Speaker 1: renovating it for about six years now. It's this rundown
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  Speaker 1: mansion that they got for a really good price and
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  Speaker 1: they seem to be quite close to finishing it now.
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  Speaker 2: It's this incredible property.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, I've been invested for years now in this
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  Speaker 1: process that I'll be really disappointed if they don't finish it. Well,
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  Speaker 1: Sky confirmed in this live that they're both going to
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  Speaker 1: continue with the renovations. I mean, I don't know how
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  Speaker 1: that would work. They need to get a reality TV
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  Speaker 1: crew down there ASAP. Yeah, I was going to say,
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  Speaker 1: as long as she keeps filming the vlogs and includes Lockie,
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  Speaker 1: it should be some entertaining vision. I think her viewership
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  Speaker 1: will go up Lockie has also taken a bit of
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  Speaker 1: swipe at Sky. So on Tuesday, he uploaded a screenshot
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  Speaker 1: of Sky taking part in a TikTok live with two
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  Speaker 1: creators called Wise Gentleman and Ryan J.
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  Speaker 2: Stewart.
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  Speaker 1: The video was captioned, Wise Gentleman and Ryan J. Stewart
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  Speaker 1: chat up Sky Wheatley. And Lockie captioned the story, classic,
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  Speaker 1: doesn't take long, with three laughing face emojis. Some people
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  Speaker 1: think this is his way of confirming the split. But
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  Speaker 1: as someone who has followed Lockie for quite some time now,
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  Speaker 1: I just think it was a joke. Like I think
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  Speaker 1: it's a piss take. Do you remember that whole, was
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  Speaker 1: it sauna and sausages thing?
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  Speaker 2: That was hilarious.
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  Speaker 1: I really hope that if they are broken up that
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  Speaker 1: some good comes from it and he does go a
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  Speaker 1: bit rogue on his socials. Because he was doing that
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  Speaker 1: whilst he was staying at his parents' house. His parents
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  Speaker 1: seemed to be quite wealthy. I'm a big fan of Lockie.
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  Speaker 1: He's an absolute crack up. Despite all of the controversy
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  Speaker 1: Sky has been involved in, I can't help but have
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  Speaker 1: a soft spot for both her and Lockie because they're
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  Speaker 1: just so entertaining. The thing that is quite confusing about
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  Speaker 1: this breakup is that just two weeks ago, Sky was
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  Speaker 1: trying to water down the rumors and avoid answering any questions.
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  Speaker 1: So she put up a Q & A and of course,
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  Speaker 1: everyone kept inundating her with questions about whether she and
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  Speaker 1: Lockie were still together. One follower wrote, but the question
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  Speaker 1: everyone wants to ask, you won't answer, but I do
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  Speaker 1: hope you're okay. And she responded saying, believe it or not,
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  Speaker 1: I actually do have a personal life outside of Instagram
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  Speaker 1: and some things I do keep to myself. Gotten better
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  Speaker 1: at this with age. I'm definitely always an oversharer, but
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  Speaker 1: some things are better left unsaid. But thank you, my love.
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  Speaker 2: I am okay. Some days I'm not, but that's all
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  Speaker 2: part of the journey.
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  Speaker 1: The photo she chose to upload with this answer says,
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  Speaker 1: was a very wholesome shot of her on a swing
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  Speaker 1: with one of her sons. And it was taken from behind.
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  Speaker 1: It was sort of a nonchalant photo, but it looked
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  Speaker 1: like she was thinking about things. Well, the picture paints
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  Speaker 1: a thousand words. And I think we can read between
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  Speaker 1: the lines and she was saying, oh, I've been parenting
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  Speaker 1: by myself.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Well, presumably she received a lot more questions about the
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  Speaker 1: state of their relationship because She finally responded with a
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  Speaker 1: cute family selfie and in it she and Lockie were
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  Speaker 1: pulling funny faces and she wrote, everything you read on
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  Speaker 1: the Daily Mail is always 100% true. They are a
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  Speaker 1: very reputable source, especially when it comes to my life,
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  Speaker 1: with laughing face emojis. She then pointed out, this is sarcasm,
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  Speaker 1: and continued, I can't imagine how actual famous people deal
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  Speaker 1: with all of the online shit that.
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  Speaker 2: Gets written said about them. It's actually wild.
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  Speaker 1: God, I'm scared for my children's future. I've been thinking lately,
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  Speaker 1: I'm so unsure if I want to keep posting them,
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  Speaker 1: but I love sharing my life with you guys. It's
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  Speaker 1: just worrying as a mother. I hope my online presence
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  Speaker 1: doesn't affect my kids. Yeah, that seems to be a
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  Speaker 1: common worry online at the moment. I think these updates
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  Speaker 1: just reflect how turbulent their relationship is though, because they
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  Speaker 1: seem to be a couple that get back together and
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  Speaker 1: then break up and get back together again. It's been
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  Speaker 1: happening throughout their whole relationship. So I wouldn't be surprised
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  Speaker 1: if they do get back together.
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  Speaker 2: In a couple of weeks time. Well, it was actually a.
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  Speaker 1: Post from her good friend, Tori, which got tongues wagging
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  Speaker 1: even further because she uploaded a TikTok appearing to throw
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  Speaker 1: some shade at Lockie. So she wrote, when you're a
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  Speaker 1: girl's girl, so now I've got more beef with her
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  Speaker 1: ex than she ever did.
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  Speaker 2: And then in the.
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  Speaker 1: Caption, she wrote, he really thought he could talk to
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  Speaker 1: her crazy, but forgot her besties from the West and
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  Speaker 1: I don't.
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  Speaker 2: Let shit slide.
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  Speaker 1: She then hashtagged it breakup humor. Now Sky even replied
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  Speaker 1: in the comment section writing, that's my girl.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, that's not a good sign. It was quite.
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  Speaker 1: Confusing though, because Tori also jumped on a live recently
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  Speaker 1: and she said, oh no, Lockie and Sky are still together.
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  Speaker 1: So again, as you say, I think it is just
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  Speaker 1: painting a picture of how turbulent this relationship really is.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, I want what's best for everyone involved, but
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  Speaker 1: I personally hope they get back together. I mean, I'm
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  Speaker 1: still obsessed with that video that they put up of
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  Speaker 1: a McDonald's mukbang at home. And they had this massive
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  Speaker 1: fight over the sweet and sour sauce because it wasn't
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  Speaker 1: put in the bag. And apparently it was like Lockie's
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  Speaker 1: fault because he didn't double check. They always forget the
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  Speaker 1: sweet and sour sauce. I don't know what it is
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  Speaker 1: with that. One thing that made me think perhaps they
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  Speaker 1: weren't endgame is that we've never had a proposal. Even
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  Speaker 1: though Sky had a sponsorship deal with a ring brand
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  Speaker 1: and she kept uploading things potential engagement rings, Lockie has
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  Speaker 1: never got down on one knee. And I wonder if
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  Speaker 1: he was a bit hesitant to do so. But he's
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  Speaker 1: had two children with her. I mean, I would say
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  Speaker 1: that that sort of bonds them for life a lot
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  Speaker 1: more than an engagement ring. Well, and they've got the
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  Speaker 1: house together. But I mean, it's quite interesting to think
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  Speaker 1: that they were only together for a couple of months
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  Speaker 1: when Skye found out she was pregnant with Forrest. Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Do you remember her other boyfriend beforehand, Cam? Oh, he
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  Speaker 2: was a douchebag.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. I think Lockie was a definite upgrade. But yeah,
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  Speaker 1: I think they've always seemed to clash a bit.
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  Speaker 4: So no Tammy at the day. Who are you taking?
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  Speaker 3: I'm taking my Jiu-Jitsu coach.
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  Speaker 1: Tammy Hembrough was a notable absentee from the Brownlow red
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  Speaker 1: carpet on Monday night, despite going Instagram official with AFL.
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  Speaker 2: Player Bailey Smith.
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  Speaker 1: Ever since the couple were papped together in August, rumours
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  Speaker 1: have been swirling that Australia's biggest influencer would steal the show.
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  Speaker 2: At footies night of nights.
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  Speaker 1: However, days leading into the Brownlow, reports emerged that things.
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  Speaker 2: Had cooled off between the pear gate.
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  Speaker 1: Now, of course, those reports coincided with Bailey's team Geelong
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  Speaker 1: getting into the grand final. Reading between the lines, it
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  Speaker 1: seems like Bailey has been advised by his footy club
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  Speaker 1: to squash the relationship with Tammy for now and focus
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  Speaker 1: on football. Or at least appear like he's squashing the things.
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  Speaker 1: And I mean, that all makes sense to me. But
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  Speaker 1: what I found really confusing as a former sports media
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  Speaker 1: manager is why Geelong's media manager... would allow Bailey to
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  Speaker 1: be interviewed before the brown low on the Kyle and.
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  Speaker 2: Jackie O show. Because obviously the focus of the interview
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  Speaker 2: was going to be Tammy.
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  Speaker 1: All that appearance has done is actually create more headlines
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  Speaker 1: and distractions. Yeah, but maybe they saw it as an
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  Speaker 1: opportunity for him to say, hey, I'm not with her.
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  Speaker 1: She's not attending the brown low. Everyone can calm down.
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  Speaker 2: Well, it got me thinking.
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  Speaker 1: Bailey Smith, he is a brand in himself. So he
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  Speaker 1: actually has more Instagram followers than Geelong Football Club. He's
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  Speaker 1: got 403,000 followers while Geelong has 271,000. So I wonder
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  Speaker 1: if he's just too big now for the club. Like
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  Speaker 1: he doesn't have to abide by the club rules and
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  Speaker 1: his manager possibly set this interview up. I don't think
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  Speaker 1: Bailey Smith really gives a fuck what anyone tells him
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  Speaker 1: to do. I think he just does what he wants
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  Speaker 1: to do. But I think it's clear that he has
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  Speaker 1: been told by his coach that he needs to focus
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  Speaker 1: on footy and rein it in a little bit. Now,
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  Speaker 1: we spoke about the interview briefly on Tuesday's show, but
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  Speaker 1: I want to go more into it now that we
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  Speaker 1: have the time, Kate. To refresh everyone's memories, this is
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  Speaker 1: how Bailey broke the news that he wouldn't be taking
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  Speaker 1: Tammy to the Brownlow.
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  Speaker 4: Are you taking Tammy tonight or no?
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  Speaker 3: No, I'm not, no. No, I didn't want to. Bore
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  Speaker 3: her with, you know, footy all night. So, yeah, she's
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  Speaker 3: not a big footy fan. And, no, we're just mates. So, no,
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  Speaker 3: leave her.
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  Speaker 2: So you guys aren't, like, exclusive or boyfriend-girlfriend?
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  Speaker 3: No, we're just mates.
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  Speaker 4: Jackie, it's not 1985, Jackie. No, I love it. Jackie
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  Speaker 4: loves exclusivity. I do. I love relationships.
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  Speaker 1: Bailey went on to say that he was taking his
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  Speaker 1: jiu-jitsu coach, who is one of his best mates.
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  Speaker 2: How random is that?
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  Speaker 1: He also said his mate would be getting blind all
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  Speaker 1: night and was planning on having a big one. My
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  Speaker 1: blood absolutely boiled for Tammy when he kept referring to her.
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  Speaker 2: As a mate. Like what an absolute slap. in the face.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, do you take your mate Sophie to romantic
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  Speaker 1: restaurants and pose for photos with your hand on their knee? Well, no,
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  Speaker 1: I don't really have any male mates that I would
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  Speaker 1: do that with.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, and do you make out with them in bars?
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  Speaker 2: Definitely not if Brandon's listening.
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  Speaker 1: So like the whole mate thing, it's like, yeah, okay,
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  Speaker 1: like whatever. Like we're not stupid. I mean, the thing
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  Speaker 1: I think I find most offensive is by putting the
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  Speaker 1: term mate on it, it kind of sounds.
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  Speaker 2: Like fuck buddies.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. I mean, or as we touched on on Tuesday's show,
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  Speaker 1: that they were only doing it to make Matt Zukowski
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  Speaker 1: jealous and to get attention. Well, Jackie O was just
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  Speaker 1: as confused as the rest of us and asked Bailey
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  Speaker 1: if he was a relationship type of guy or just
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  Speaker 1: likes to keep things casual. And Bailey admitted he was
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  Speaker 1: a relationship guy up until a year and a half ago,
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  Speaker 1: but said he is now single and enjoying it. He
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  Speaker 1: did concede, though, that he's keen for a missus eventually.
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  Speaker 2: Oh, isn't that such footy speak, a missus? It makes
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  Speaker 2: me feel sick.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I hate it if my partner ever refers to
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  Speaker 1: me as his missus.
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  Speaker 2: Or the missus. I think that's even more offensive.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, in terms of his relationship timeline, his last
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  Speaker 1: girlfriend was Gemma Dawkins, and they kept their relationship pretty
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  Speaker 1: low key. They didn't post much online together. They attended
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  Speaker 1: the Grand Prix and Derby Day together, but that was
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  Speaker 1: kind of it. Those were the only photos that we
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  Speaker 1: saw of them. So it seems like this is the
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  Speaker 1: relationship that's.
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  Speaker 2: Made him want to be single for a while.
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  Speaker 1: For guys, it's always this one girl that sort of
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  Speaker 1: ruins them for everyone else. They need that time off
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  Speaker 1: to be a dickhead and get over them.
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  Speaker 2: I don't think we should be blaming Gemma. Oh, not
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  Speaker 2: that it's her fault.
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  Speaker 1: No, I'm just saying, but there always seems to be
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  Speaker 1: that one girl that either got away. Or it's an
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  Speaker 1: excuse for them to. I mean, we need to remember
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  Speaker 1: that Bailey Smith is only 24 years old.
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  Speaker 2: That blows my mind.
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  Speaker 1: Mind.
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  Speaker 3: I know.
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  Speaker 2: It freaks me out.
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  Speaker 1: Now, Kyle jumped in after Jackie O's comments and asked
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  Speaker 1: if Bailey's Tinder ambassador role involved going on lots of dates.
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  Speaker 2: And this is what Bailey said.
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  Speaker 3: I go on a few dates. Don't mind that. But yeah,
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  Speaker 3: I don't know. I'm out trying to find a missus,
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  Speaker 3: that's for sure. But not actively searching. I just want
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  Speaker 3: to win Saturday and then we'll see how we go.
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  Speaker 4: So priorities.
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  Speaker 1: Now to me, That last bit confirms that this whole
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  Speaker 1: cooling down of the relationship with Tammy is all to
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  Speaker 1: do with footy. And I think it will be back
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  Speaker 1: on with Tammy after the grand final. I don't necessarily
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  Speaker 1: think it is going to be all back on with Tammy.
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  Speaker 1: I think that things were pretty casual and it's just
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  Speaker 1: a rebound for her. See, I think if this was legit,
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  Speaker 1: she might have made a few pot shots online already
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  Speaker 1: about it. So your theory is that they're still dating.
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  Speaker 1: That's why she hasn't been throwing any shade at him
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  Speaker 1: on TikTok because she's like, oh, I better respect that.
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  Speaker 2: This is his work and his profession. I mean, I
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  Speaker 2: think it's clearly that.
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  Speaker 1: We've got to understand how serious a grand final campaign is. Like,
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  Speaker 1: he would have been sat down by his coaching staff
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  Speaker 1: and said, you need to focus on footy. You can't
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  Speaker 1: be going out on all these public dates with Tammy Hembrough,
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  Speaker 1: having paparazzi following you about, posting all this shit on
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  Speaker 1: social media. He has been very brave speaking publicly about
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  Speaker 1: his mental health and how doing his ACL really brought
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  Speaker 1: him to a dark place. And a couple of days ago,
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  Speaker 1: he shared an Instagram post showing his rehab and him
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  Speaker 1: getting back into footy and talking about how huge it
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  Speaker 1: is that he's now playing in a grand final. And,
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  Speaker 1: you know, as you said, Kate, no one can question
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  Speaker 1: how big this is in an AFL player's life. This
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  Speaker 1: isn't Bailey's first grand final. So when he was playing
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  Speaker 1: for the Western Bulldogs, he played in the 2021 grand
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  Speaker 1: final and they lost. So it's probably made him hungrier
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  Speaker 1: for the win this weekend. Getting back to this interview,
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  Speaker 1: it was quite funny because they had callers ring in
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  Speaker 1: with questions and one asked this.
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  Speaker 4: So quick question regarding you and Tammy.
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  Speaker 3: Who reached out to you first?
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  Speaker 4: Did you slide in her inbox on Insta or like
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  Speaker 4: how did it work? See, that's a good question because
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  Speaker 4: a lot of us want to know.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, how'd that come to be?
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  Speaker 4: How'd that box slide?
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  Speaker 3: I knew you were going to go. No, I slid.
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  Speaker 3: In her inbox, yeah. And what did you say?
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  Speaker 1: No, no.
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  Speaker 4: Hey, hey, hey.
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  Speaker 3: Hey, hey.
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  Speaker 4: Come on.
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  Speaker 3: Nah. Nah, nothing.
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  Speaker 4: We don't want him to give away his, you know,
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  Speaker 4: all the gold here.
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  Speaker 2: Were you surprised that he slid into her DMs? It
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  Speaker 2: did surprise me.
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  Speaker 1: But then again, I've got to remind myself that I
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  Speaker 1: don't have the brain of a 24-year-old man.
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  Speaker 2: Or think with your penis. No, because if I heard... that.
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  Speaker 1: Someone I was interested in was going through a divorce,
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  Speaker 1: I'd probably steer clear of them for a couple of
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  Speaker 1: months at least. Doesn't that show his intentions from there?
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  Speaker 1: Like obviously a bit of a rebound. I mean, I
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  Speaker 1: was surprised, but then when I heard him speak more
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  Speaker 1: about his DMs, it sort of made more sense because
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  Speaker 1: he said he doesn't actually look at his DMs and
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  Speaker 1: that he gets so many unsolicited dick pics.
• 14:41
  Speaker 2: All the time from men.
• 14:43
  Speaker 4: Wow.
• 14:44
  Speaker 1: It appears that Bailey and Tammy's ex-husband, Matt Zukowski, have
• 14:48
  Speaker 1: more things in common than we thought because We have,
• 14:51
  Speaker 1: of course, learnt now that Bailey does jujitsu and boxing
• 14:55
  Speaker 1: and he said that he wants to do an MMA fight.
• 14:57
  Speaker 1: So could we get Matt Zukowski and Bailey Smith in
• 15:00
  Speaker 1: the ring? Can we host it? We can do a
• 15:03
  Speaker 1: little podcast live from down there. Wouldn't that be funny?
• 15:06
  Speaker 2: Oh, my God. It would be excellent. Fighting for Tammy's love. Oh,
• 15:09
  Speaker 2: my God.
• 15:09
  Speaker 1: This is very reminiscent of Jordan Simi fighting for Sammy Robinson.
• 15:15
  Speaker 2: Oh, can you imagine the views on YouTube? This would
• 15:17
  Speaker 2: earn a lot of money. Lads, if you're listening to
• 15:19
  Speaker 2: the podcast, reach out. We're happy to organize it.
• 15:21
  Speaker 1: Now over to Camp Tammy, we have touched on how
• 15:24
  Speaker 1: she's trying to play it pretty cool. And as though
• 15:27
  Speaker 1: she doesn't care about this Brownlow snub, even though I
• 15:29
  Speaker 1: feel like she would be dying inside and slightly embarrassed.
• 15:32
  Speaker 1: Particularly spending all that time at her sister's skin clinic
• 15:34
  Speaker 1: leading into the event and.
• 15:36
  Speaker 2: Dropping that you had this big event on.
• 15:38
  Speaker 1: And then we've seen no said big event now. Over
• 15:41
  Speaker 1: the weekend, she holidayed in Byron Bay with her kids
• 15:44
  Speaker 1: who are on school holidays at the moment. She appeared
• 15:46
  Speaker 1: to be there with her best friend, Isabel Laws. I
• 15:49
  Speaker 1: would love to know if this trip was pre-booked or
• 15:53
  Speaker 1: booked after she got the news.
• 15:54
  Speaker 2: About the Brownlow. It kind of gave me the vibe.
• 15:56
  Speaker 1: It's something that you're like, oh my God, I'm so
• 15:58
  Speaker 1: disappointed that I don't get to go to this event,
• 16:00
  Speaker 1: that we've got to book something in to make.
• 16:02
  Speaker 2: Up for it.
• 16:02
  Speaker 1: Or it was a cover because it's like, I've always
• 16:04
  Speaker 1: had this trip planned. I was never going to the
• 16:05
  Speaker 1: Brownlow medal.
• 16:06
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that is true. I mean, it's very clever.
• 16:09
  Speaker 1: As someone who grew up as a footy fan, Whenever
• 16:11
  Speaker 1: I used to watch the Brownlow as a young girl,
• 16:13
  Speaker 1: I always used to feel that like, oh, I wish
• 16:15
  Speaker 1: I could.
• 16:15
  Speaker 2: Go, like that burning feeling. Imagine actually dating one of
• 16:18
  Speaker 2: the players and not being invited. Like the absolute burn. Well,
• 16:21
  Speaker 2: they've only been dating for a few weeks.
• 16:23
  Speaker 1: I feel like most of the wives and girlfriends have
• 16:26
  Speaker 1: to be around for potentially a year before getting the invite.
• 16:29
  Speaker 2: That's usually how these footy guys work.
• 16:31
  Speaker 1: I feel like the Brownlow is such a difficult event
• 16:34
  Speaker 1: for footy players to navigate because there'd be so many
• 16:36
  Speaker 1: of them dating multiple women.
• 16:38
  Speaker 2: I mean, just look at Travis Boak.
• 16:40
  Speaker 1: Side note, it's quite interesting because he kind of fits
• 16:43
  Speaker 1: into this whole space because he is good friends with
• 16:46
  Speaker 1: Matt Paul. Matt Paul went over.
• 16:48
  Speaker 2: To Adelaide to watch Travis Boak's last game. I was like,
• 16:50
  Speaker 2: how do they know each other? Is it through Iron Man? Yeah.
• 16:53
  Speaker 1: Well, I think Travis is into all of that sort
• 16:56
  Speaker 1: of stuff, so potentially. But anyway, Travis Spoke is known
• 17:00
  Speaker 1: for being- Well.
• 17:01
  Speaker 2: The most eligible bachelor in Adelaide.
• 17:03
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 17:04
  Speaker 1: I mean, he's a very good looking guy and he
• 17:06
  Speaker 1: has barely ever taken a date to any of these
• 17:08
  Speaker 1: footy functions. They always bring their mum and look like
• 17:11
  Speaker 1: the nice guy. Oh, they've got their mum there, their sister.
• 17:13
  Speaker 1: It's not because they've been tuning all these other girls
• 17:15
  Speaker 1: behind the scenes. But then on his final best and
• 17:18
  Speaker 1: fairest report, he brought his girlfriend.
• 17:20
  Speaker 2: Yeah. It's kind of like, well, I've hung up the boots.
• 17:23
  Speaker 2: I'm retired now. Here's my girlfriend.
• 17:26
  Speaker 1: Before we wrap this up, we have to talk about
• 17:28
  Speaker 1: what Bailey Smith wore on the red car, but he
• 17:31
  Speaker 1: was wearing a pair of Speed Dealer Sunnies. I was
• 17:36
  Speaker 1: almost relieved for Tammy that she didn't have to stand
• 17:39
  Speaker 1: next to that because it was very embarrassing. It's kind
• 17:42
  Speaker 1: of that tripe where it seems like young men these days,
• 17:45
  Speaker 1: and I say that sounding so old at 36, but
• 17:47
  Speaker 1: It seems like they're trying to make themselves look.
• 17:50
  Speaker 2: The ugliest as possible. Like I was watching the footage
• 17:52
  Speaker 2: the other day. I'm like, well, their haircuts look so
• 17:55
  Speaker 2: fucking stupid. What is with the sideburns? It reminds me
• 17:57
  Speaker 2: of the Simpsons when. It's lack of sideburns. Well, that's
• 17:59
  Speaker 2: what I mean. It's like when Mr. Burns is like,
• 18:01
  Speaker 2: get rid of those sideburns.
• 18:02
  Speaker 1: Strawberries.
• 18:03
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 18:03
  Speaker 1: And he gets rid of the whole thing because he's like,
• 18:04
  Speaker 1: I don't even have any sideburns. I have to say,
• 18:06
  Speaker 1: I'm not a fan of an all black ensemble. Like
• 18:09
  Speaker 1: I hated the fact that the shirt was black.
• 18:11
  Speaker 2: The jacket was black. The tie was black. He's a
• 18:14
  Speaker 2: very good-looking man.
• 18:16
  Speaker 1: Like the thing is he still pulled it off. He
• 18:17
  Speaker 1: had to wear something different, didn't he? It's a whole
• 18:19
  Speaker 1: Gen Z thing. It was funny because I heard– I
• 18:22
  Speaker 1: saw these memes where he's like.
• 18:24
  Speaker 2: Everyone stop talking about me.
• 18:25
  Speaker 1: The media, get off my back, and then rocks up
• 18:28
  Speaker 1: with these stupid sunglasses on that's just going to.
• 18:29
  Speaker 2: Get all his attention.
• 18:32
  Speaker 1: I mean, also the photos that he was posting beforehand
• 18:34
  Speaker 1: of him lying on one of the beds at Crown.
• 18:37
  Speaker 2: Oh, it's just all a bit of a laugh, isn't it?
• 18:39
  Speaker 1: Did you notice he posed alongside the AFL CEO, Andrew Dillon,
• 18:43
  Speaker 1: and it was only a few weeks ago that Andrew
• 18:45
  Speaker 1: Dillon was making cracks at a Geelong event about Tammy
• 18:48
  Speaker 1: Hembrough coming to the Brownlow.
• 18:50
  Speaker 2: I've got some new clothes, so let's do a try
• 18:52
  Speaker 2: on haul.
• 18:53
  Speaker 1: Ashley Bynes has announced she's expanding her podcast team despite
• 18:58
  Speaker 1: abruptly cancelling her podcast live tour. The OG fitness influencer
• 19:02
  Speaker 1: advertised for the position across her social media channels, but
• 19:06
  Speaker 1: the job description left people shocked. Before we get into that, Kate,
• 19:10
  Speaker 1: can you tell us more about Ashi's podcast? So Ashi
• 19:13
  Speaker 1: co-hosts a self-improvement podcast called She Rises alongside her latest
• 19:17
  Speaker 1: best friend, Tiana Bundelow. They release four episodes a week
• 19:21
  Speaker 1: and back in May announced that they would be hosting
• 19:23
  Speaker 1: retreats in Bali for listeners. Now, Ashi was forced to
• 19:27
  Speaker 1: relaunch the podcast under a new name at the start
• 19:30
  Speaker 1: of this year after a public friendship breakdown with her co-host,
• 19:33
  Speaker 1: Kiara Dorough. At the time, followers speculated that Kiara had
• 19:38
  Speaker 1: been gagged, but she actually ended up dropping a few
• 19:40
  Speaker 1: details about what went down. Reading between the lines, it
• 19:44
  Speaker 1: seems like Ashi put a lot of pressure on Kiara
• 19:47
  Speaker 1: when it came to the podcast. So, Kiara said the
• 19:49
  Speaker 1: podcast was meant to be a bit of a fun
• 19:51
  Speaker 1: side project, but Ashi took it way more seriously. Kiara
• 19:55
  Speaker 1: even labeled her friendship with Ashi full on. So when
• 19:58
  Speaker 1: Ashi promoted that she was expanding the podcast team, people
• 20:02
  Speaker 1: started speculating that her co-host Tiana must also be struggling
• 20:06
  Speaker 1: with the workload. Listeners have been picking up on a
• 20:08
  Speaker 1: bit of a vibe that Tiana has been left to
• 20:10
  Speaker 1: do the majority of the heavy lifting with this podcast.
• 20:13
  Speaker 1: And that seemed to be confirmed when both Ashley and
• 20:16
  Speaker 1: Tiana shared on social media what their roles were for
• 20:19
  Speaker 1: the podcast. And Tiana definitely takes care of the majority
• 20:23
  Speaker 1: of the back-end work from the finances to the editing.
• 20:26
  Speaker 2: Oh, my God.
• 20:26
  Speaker 1: What about when Ashley claimed that she couldn't do the
• 20:29
  Speaker 1: more technical edits because her fingers were chubbier than Tiana?
• 20:32
  Speaker 1: She said she can't really zoom in. As for what
• 20:35
  Speaker 1: Ashley does, she said she prints off the script and
• 20:38
  Speaker 1: sticks them onto card and also uploads the TikToks and
• 20:41
  Speaker 1: sends out a newsletter that In terms of actually coming
• 20:44
  Speaker 1: up with the content, I got a little bit confused
• 20:46
  Speaker 1: because Ashi was like, oh yeah, you're much better at structure, Tiana.
• 20:49
  Speaker 1: You come up with the structure and then I go
• 20:51
  Speaker 1: in there and sort of add the content. But it
• 20:54
  Speaker 1: kind of seems to me that Tiana comes up with
• 20:56
  Speaker 1: the idea of the episode and then Ashi will sort
• 20:59
  Speaker 1: of write in a few little dot points underneath headlines.
• 21:02
  Speaker 2: It is a lot of.
• 21:03
  Speaker 1: Content for Tiana to come up with because as you
• 21:05
  Speaker 1: touched on, Kate, they release four episodes a week.
• 21:08
  Speaker 2: That is a big effort.
• 21:09
  Speaker 1: And I found it pretty fascinating learning more about behind
• 21:11
  Speaker 1: the scenes of their podcast because they actually bulk record
• 21:15
  Speaker 1: all of those episodes. So once a month, they drive
• 21:18
  Speaker 1: from the Gold Coast up to Brisbane. They book in
• 21:20
  Speaker 1: a recording studio. They stay there overnight and they record
• 21:24
  Speaker 1: 16 episodes. Now getting back to this job advertisement, Ashi
• 21:29
  Speaker 1: wrote on Instagram that they're looking for an assistant role.
• 21:31
  Speaker 1: So they want someone to work five to six plus
• 21:34
  Speaker 1: hours a week. And They said that there's potential growth
• 21:38
  Speaker 1: in the role. She wrote, we're looking for a high vibe, creative,
• 21:41
  Speaker 1: ridiculously organized and self-led assistant to join the She Rises team.
• 21:46
  Speaker 1: This role starts at around five hours a week with
• 21:49
  Speaker 1: opportunity to expand into more hours as the brand continues
• 21:53
  Speaker 1: to grow. We're looking for someone who can keep up
• 21:56
  Speaker 1: with the rapid growth and stay organized when it comes
• 21:58
  Speaker 1: to our project planning and evolving brand. This is a
• 22:01
  Speaker 1: flexible work from home role with the potential for in-office
• 22:05
  Speaker 1: work in the future. Could it be more clear that
• 22:07
  Speaker 1: ChatGPT wrote that job advertisement? Now, despite saying that they
• 22:12
  Speaker 1: wanted someone to work five to six hours a week,
• 22:14
  Speaker 1: the list of responsibilities was so big that they had
• 22:17
  Speaker 1: to divide it into weekly and monthly tasks.
• 22:20
  Speaker 2: Let's run through them.
• 22:21
  Speaker 1: So they want someone to upload podcast snippets to TikTok
• 22:25
  Speaker 1: and Instagram three times a day on each platform, write
• 22:30
  Speaker 1: captions for all of the uploads, set up many chat
• 22:33
  Speaker 1: keyword automatics, Manage customer care for retreats. Manage SheRises Instagram DMs.
• 22:39
  Speaker 1: Manage customer service for the SheRises subscription. Reach out to
• 22:43
  Speaker 1: potential podcast guests. Send out weekly newsletter. Brainstorm creative content ideas.
• 22:49
  Speaker 1: Plan and organize trending weekly content in Google Docs. Now,
• 22:53
  Speaker 1: as for the monthly responsibilities, they included project planning and
• 22:56
  Speaker 1: organizing brand initiatives, printing and preparing speaking point cards for filming.
• 23:02
  Speaker 1: Ashley's obviously fed up doing that. Yeah. assist at photo shoots,
• 23:06
  Speaker 1: run errands when required, track monthly revenue, follow up invoices
• 23:10
  Speaker 1: and subscriptions for retreats and provide ongoing customer service for
• 23:14
  Speaker 1: She Rises retreat. So there's an awful lot on someone's
• 23:17
  Speaker 1: plate for someone who works five to six hours a week.
• 23:19
  Speaker 1: I mean, I'm sorry, that is a full-time gig. Like
• 23:22
  Speaker 1: I don't understand how that is being advertised as five
• 23:24
  Speaker 1: to six hours a week.
• 23:25
  Speaker 2: That is absolutely ridiculous.
• 23:27
  Speaker 1: Well, they obviously didn't have trouble finding someone because on Wednesday,
• 23:30
  Speaker 1: Ashi and Tiana announced that they'd interviewed their first PA.
• 23:34
  Speaker 1: They teased their audience that it was someone they may
• 23:37
  Speaker 1: already know. And hours later, they confirmed that they had
• 23:40
  Speaker 1: hired her.
• 23:41
  Speaker 2: I love that they hired the first person they interviewed.
• 23:43
  Speaker 1: Like to me, the fact that it was someone they
• 23:44
  Speaker 1: know makes it sound like no one actually applied.
• 23:47
  Speaker 2: For the job.
• 23:48
  Speaker 1: So they had to go in-house and go, you know,
• 23:50
  Speaker 1: because Ashley's got her other business hideaway. I'm guessing it's
• 23:53
  Speaker 1: someone from the hideaway team. It's interesting because from the outside,
• 23:56
  Speaker 1: it looks like this podcast is absolutely flourishing since the rebrand.
• 24:00
  Speaker 1: And When Ashley announced the rebrand, she made it very
• 24:03
  Speaker 1: clear that this podcast is a top priority of hers.
• 24:06
  Speaker 1: And in terms of success on the charts, last month
• 24:09
  Speaker 1: the podcast ranked number 285 with 21,000 monthly listeners and
• 24:15
  Speaker 1: 46,000 downloads across 23 episodes. So that means roughly each
• 24:19
  Speaker 1: episode is averaging around 2,000 downloads. Look, not to shit
• 24:23
  Speaker 1: on anyone, but that's actually not very much considering the
• 24:26
  Speaker 1: the large Instagram following that she has. And it's quite
• 24:29
  Speaker 1: clear why their strategy is to release four episodes a
• 24:32
  Speaker 1: week because they're trying to bolster up their total download numbers.
• 24:35
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 24:36
  Speaker 1: I mean, that was obvious to me looking at it
• 24:38
  Speaker 1: as well. And again, I mean, 2000 downloads is good
• 24:41
  Speaker 1: for a podcast, but not when you have, you know,
• 24:43
  Speaker 1: a million followers on Instagram. Like it's quite clear that
• 24:46
  Speaker 1: your followers aren't listening to your podcast. It's good for
• 24:49
  Speaker 1: a startup podcast of people who have no profile whatsoever.
• 24:52
  Speaker 1: But for someone of her status, that's pretty disappointing.
• 24:57
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 24:58
  Speaker 1: I mean, it's quite clear that they're very focused on
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: creating revenue from their podcast. They have ads running on it.
• 25:03
  Speaker 1: So they would be creating some revenue through the ad stream,
• 25:06
  Speaker 1: but they've also now set up this additional revenue stream
• 25:09
  Speaker 1: of the retreats. So they announced that they sold out
• 25:13
  Speaker 1: of their May 2026 retreats in eight hours. I was like,
• 25:16
  Speaker 1: oh wow, that's a lot. But then to put that
• 25:18
  Speaker 1: into perspective, there are only 24 spots available on the trip. Yeah,
• 25:22
  Speaker 1: but this is what all influencers do. We've sold out
• 25:24
  Speaker 1: of everything, but we have very limited spots. Yeah, it
• 25:27
  Speaker 1: was weird because then they launched this other retreat for
• 25:29
  Speaker 1: September 2026 off the back of Selling Out and they
• 25:32
  Speaker 1: kept claiming, oh, but we've got hundreds of people on.
• 25:35
  Speaker 2: The waiting list.
• 25:36
  Speaker 1: But then the way it was set up was so
• 25:38
  Speaker 1: unprofessional because people had to DM them saying that they
• 25:41
  Speaker 1: were interested and then they sent them the brochure with
• 25:45
  Speaker 1: the details and then they were like, oh, but you
• 25:48
  Speaker 1: can pay for it in full or we can do
• 25:50
  Speaker 1: a payment plan, but we have to get back to
• 25:52
  Speaker 1: our hotel in Bali because they were over in Bali
• 25:55
  Speaker 1: to do that.
• 25:57
  Speaker 2: It was just so unprofessional. I was like, you can't
• 25:59
  Speaker 2: run a business like that.
• 26:00
  Speaker 1: Well, another sign that things aren't going so well for
• 26:03
  Speaker 1: this podcast comes down to their live tour. So they
• 26:06
  Speaker 1: have been spruiking since the start of the year that
• 26:09
  Speaker 1: they are holding live tours around the country. And in
• 26:12
  Speaker 1: late April, they announced this tour and claimed they had
• 26:14
  Speaker 1: already sold out of VIP tickets and general admissions were
• 26:18
  Speaker 1: flying off the shelves. Yeah. So when I was doing
• 26:21
  Speaker 1: research for this topic, I was like, oh, I didn't
• 26:23
  Speaker 1: even know they had a live show on. And I
• 26:25
  Speaker 1: clicked on the link that they provided in one of
• 26:27
  Speaker 1: their highlighted Instagram stories. And it came up with like
• 26:31
  Speaker 1: an error. And I was like, oh, that's weird. So
• 26:32
  Speaker 1: I started Googling and I came across a ticket page.
• 26:36
  Speaker 2: And to my surprise, it was listed as cancelled.
• 26:39
  Speaker 1: So on the page, it said, due to unforeseen circumstances,
• 26:41
  Speaker 1: She Rises Live with Ashi and Tiana has unfortunately been cancelled.
• 26:46
  Speaker 1: Affected ticket holders will receive an email advising of the
• 26:48
  Speaker 1: cancellation and next steps. Please check your inbox and spam
• 26:52
  Speaker 1: junk folders.
• 26:53
  Speaker 2: Well, there's a job for the assistant.
• 26:54
  Speaker 1: Please email the handful of people who have secured tickets
• 26:58
  Speaker 1: to your live show.
• 26:59
  Speaker 2: Please give them their money back.
• 27:00
  Speaker 1: Now, this led me to do some further digging because
• 27:03
  Speaker 1: I was like, oh, surely Ashley and Tiana have publicly
• 27:05
  Speaker 1: announced that this tour was cancelled somewhere. And I spent
• 27:09
  Speaker 1: ages trawling through the She Rises Instagram account. In the end,
• 27:12
  Speaker 1: I ended up putting a call out on Outspoken's Facebook
• 27:15
  Speaker 1: community asking if anyone had heard anything. Now, everyone was like, oh,
• 27:19
  Speaker 1: I wonder if it's another friendship bust up. Now, off
• 27:22
  Speaker 1: the back of my post in the Facebook community, the
• 27:24
  Speaker 1: news spread to Tattle Life and someone ended up sharing
• 27:27
  Speaker 1: a message that Tiana sent them about.
• 27:30
  Speaker 2: The live show. So she wrote, that's right.
• 27:33
  Speaker 1: Unfortunately, we made the decision to pause She Rises live.
• 27:36
  Speaker 1: We were navigating a lot of changes slash difficulties and
• 27:39
  Speaker 1: with getting this event up and running, and it just
• 27:42
  Speaker 1: felt extremely forceful. It wasn't lining up in the way
• 27:45
  Speaker 1: we originally wanted it to when we first launched. We
• 27:48
  Speaker 1: tossed up for a long time with this decision because
• 27:50
  Speaker 1: we only ever wanted to deliver the best experience for
• 27:53
  Speaker 1: you ladies, and with venue issues and some internal challenges,
• 27:56
  Speaker 1: we just decided to pause it until we can deliver 100%.
• 28:00
  Speaker 1: Refunds were the easiest way we could support all the
• 28:02
  Speaker 1: women who bought tickets instead of giving credits and leaving
• 28:05
  Speaker 1: it open-ended, etc. But we are building something right now
• 28:09
  Speaker 1: that we know you'll love. Thank you for understanding and
• 28:11
  Speaker 1: we're excited for the day we can get up on
• 28:13
  Speaker 1: the stage and have you join us. Look, I don't
• 28:15
  Speaker 1: mean to be that person, but it's quite clear that
• 28:18
  Speaker 1: they just didn't get the numbers. Yeah, I mean... It's
• 28:21
  Speaker 1: nothing to do with the venue falling through. I just
• 28:24
  Speaker 1: find it very unprofessional that they didn't publicly announce that
• 28:26
  Speaker 1: this tour wasn't happening. Like if there was a legitimate
• 28:28
  Speaker 1: reason like, oh, we're having... issues because the venue's not
• 28:31
  Speaker 1: big enough to hold everyone or, you know, because they
• 28:35
  Speaker 1: claimed they had sold out of VIP tickets and, you know,
• 28:38
  Speaker 1: the other tickets were selling like hotcakes. Well, if you
• 28:40
  Speaker 1: are a diehard fan of this podcast, you're buying the
• 28:43
  Speaker 1: VIP tickets. So maybe they thought, wow, those have sold
• 28:45
  Speaker 1: so quickly. There's going to be an outpouring of interest
• 28:48
  Speaker 1: in our general admission.
• 28:50
  Speaker 2: Tickets, but there just wasn't.
• 28:51
  Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, it seems pretty obvious that there were
• 28:53
  Speaker 1: a lack of ticket sales. But I think if you
• 28:56
  Speaker 1: really care about the community that you're building and there
• 28:59
  Speaker 1: were people that bought tickets, you need to publicly address
• 29:02
  Speaker 1: it and say, look, I'm sorry, we're actually rescheduling the show.
• 29:06
  Speaker 1: Like just say that there's a schedule clash or something.
• 29:09
  Speaker 2: It's because they.
• 29:10
  Speaker 1: Don't want to go into the real reason that they're
• 29:11
  Speaker 1: cancelling this tour.
• 29:13
  Speaker 2: So they would rather hide it.
• 29:14
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 29:14
  Speaker 1: I mean, in that message, Tiana dropped that they're bringing
• 29:17
  Speaker 1: something else out. And they have been teasing it, which
• 29:20
  Speaker 1: was giving me flashbacks to when Kiara and Ashley were
• 29:23
  Speaker 1: teasing a product and then suddenly there was radio silence
• 29:26
  Speaker 1: and they were no longer friends nor hosting the podcast together.
• 29:29
  Speaker 1: So I'm wondering if this product will ever see the
• 29:31
  Speaker 1: light of day. A lot of people were guessing what
• 29:33
  Speaker 1: it was in the comment section. They have revealed it's
• 29:35
  Speaker 1: not a dildo, which was one of the guesses. And
• 29:37
  Speaker 1: then a couple of other people asked if it was
• 29:39
  Speaker 1: a planner or a journal. It is not either of
• 29:42
  Speaker 1: those things.
• 29:42
  Speaker 2: I love how different it is. A dildo or a journal?
• 29:46
  Speaker 1: Well, we know that Ashley has been selling natural lube. So,
• 29:49
  Speaker 1: I mean, there's a variety of products that it could be.
• 29:52
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 29:53
  Speaker 1: I was actually going back over the run sheet that
• 29:55
  Speaker 1: we did back in January when we discussed the relaunch
• 29:58
  Speaker 1: of this podcast. And it seems like Ashley Bynes kind
• 30:00
  Speaker 1: of has already ruined her surprise because she spoke about
• 30:03
  Speaker 1: how they want to do a four-week self-improvement course. So
• 30:05
  Speaker 1: I'm guessing the product has to do with that. Let's
• 30:10
  Speaker 1: get into our Friday debrief. And I'm coming with a
• 30:11
  Speaker 1: recommendation that has really surprised me because I scrolled past
• 30:15
  Speaker 1: it so many times on Netflix and I'm like, I
• 30:18
  Speaker 1: am not.
• 30:18
  Speaker 2: Interested in Charlie Sheen.
• 30:20
  Speaker 1: I grew up with dad watching Two and a Half Men.
• 30:23
  Speaker 1: I despise the show. I never really got it. I
• 30:25
  Speaker 1: never even understood that Charlie Sheen was a big actor
• 30:29
  Speaker 1: before then.
• 30:30
  Speaker 2: No, I had no idea. Well, he sort of was
• 30:32
  Speaker 2: playing himself.
• 30:34
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 30:34
  Speaker 2: So he was sort of a bit of a joke
• 30:36
  Speaker 2: on that show. Man, man, man, man, man, man, man.
• 30:39
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I always just viewed him as this washed up actor. Anyway,
• 30:42
  Speaker 1: there wasn't much on Netflix. I'm like, let's just watch it.
• 30:45
  Speaker 1: I love a celebrity documentary as well.
• 30:48
  Speaker 2: And I was like, oh, okay.
• 30:49
  Speaker 1: I'm guessing that they haven't spoken to him. Like it
• 30:51
  Speaker 1: must be everyone else speaking about him.
• 30:53
  Speaker 4: No, no.
• 30:54
  Speaker 2: He was there. absolutely telling everything. It was amazing.
• 30:59
  Speaker 1: Yeah, I was a bit sceptical at first and thought,
• 31:01
  Speaker 1: I'm not going to enjoy this, but it really hooked
• 31:03
  Speaker 1: me in with the first story he told about being
• 31:07
  Speaker 1: on an aeroplane on the way to his honeymoon with
• 31:09
  Speaker 1: his wife or one of his wives.
• 31:11
  Speaker 2: He had three wives.
• 31:12
  Speaker 1: And basically he got invited into the cockpit because the
• 31:16
  Speaker 1: captain was a big fan of him. And he said, hey, mate,
• 31:18
  Speaker 1: could I put on your captain's jacket? I think you're
• 31:20
  Speaker 1: forgetting the fact that he had just downed four shots
• 31:23
  Speaker 1: prior to entering the cockpit. And also he'd been drinking
• 31:26
  Speaker 1: throughout the whole flight. He was very intoxicated.
• 31:28
  Speaker 4: Yeah.
• 31:29
  Speaker 1: So he was off his face at this point, off
• 31:31
  Speaker 1: his chops. And he said, yeah, could I also put
• 31:33
  Speaker 1: your captain's hat on? And the guy's like, okay. Okay.
• 31:36
  Speaker 1: And then they took a photo and then he said, oh,
• 31:38
  Speaker 1: can I sit behind the wheel?
• 31:40
  Speaker 2: And the pilot's like, all right.
• 31:41
  Speaker 1: So the co-pilot gets up and the pilot actually flicked.
• 31:44
  Speaker 2: Over the controls.
• 31:46
  Speaker 1: So Charlie Sheen was flying the fucking plane.
• 31:49
  Speaker 2: And this is a passenger jet with like 400 people
• 31:51
  Speaker 2: on it.
• 31:52
  Speaker 1: And he said he started to sort of turn it
• 31:54
  Speaker 1: slightly and the plane started tilting. And that's when the
• 31:57
  Speaker 1: pilot decided, hey, this isn't a good idea.
• 32:00
  Speaker 2: Let's flick this off.
• 32:01
  Speaker 1: So it was the perfect way to portray the power
• 32:05
  Speaker 1: of and celebrity that Charlie Sheen had at that point
• 32:08
  Speaker 1: in time and how he could basically get away with anything. Yeah, well,
• 32:11
  Speaker 1: it was a great introduction to the doco because the
• 32:13
  Speaker 1: interviewer is like, was it at this point that you
• 32:16
  Speaker 1: thought you could get away with anything?
• 32:17
  Speaker 2: And he's like, yeah.
• 32:18
  Speaker 1: I've never been a fan of the guy because there's
• 32:20
  Speaker 1: always been these stories in the background about alleged domestic
• 32:24
  Speaker 1: violence with his partners. And two of his partners actually
• 32:27
  Speaker 1: did appear in the documentary. And it was quite interesting
• 32:30
  Speaker 1: because although it was quite clear that they had a
• 32:33
  Speaker 1: tumultuous relationship with him, They still remained in his life
• 32:36
  Speaker 1: because they shared children together. I was shocked about how
• 32:39
  Speaker 1: much Denise Richards did for Charlie Sheen particularly. I mean,
• 32:42
  Speaker 1: I don't want to ruin the doco, but the fact
• 32:44
  Speaker 1: that she took in his twins with his new wife
• 32:47
  Speaker 1: when they were going to be taken into care. And
• 32:50
  Speaker 1: that's the thing. Even though he was such a jerk,
• 32:55
  Speaker 1: there was still a likable quality to him. Maybe it
• 32:58
  Speaker 1: was because he's actually being so honest now. Well, he
• 33:01
  Speaker 1: has a lot of charisma as well. Like he– Like
• 33:05
  Speaker 1: I've never found him attractive, but I'm like, oh, he
• 33:06
  Speaker 1: was a really good looking young guy. It is a
• 33:09
  Speaker 1: fascinating documentary. If you were looking for something to watch
• 33:12
  Speaker 1: with your partner on the weekend, I would definitely tune in.
• 33:15
  Speaker 1: It had me hooked for like the three or four
• 33:17
  Speaker 1: hours that it went for. I've just been desperately looking
• 33:19
  Speaker 1: for something to get into after the Summer I Turn
• 33:22
  Speaker 1: Pretty finale. I've been living for that show ever. You
• 33:24
  Speaker 1: guys have not watched it. I feel like it's the
• 33:26
  Speaker 1: biggest show in the world at the moment. And I
• 33:29
  Speaker 1: don't know what I can convince you to get into it.
• 33:32
  Speaker 1: I've watched one series and I did kind of like
• 33:34
  Speaker 1: it like years ago.
• 33:35
  Speaker 2: So I feel like it's a bit of a commitment
• 33:36
  Speaker 2: that I have to rewatch it.
• 33:38
  Speaker 1: No, you don't have to rewatch it. Don't bother watching
• 33:40
  Speaker 1: the second series. That was disappointing. Go straight to the third.
• 33:44
  Speaker 2: It was so good.
• 33:46
  Speaker 1: We've been watching the poor man's version of The Summer
• 33:48
  Speaker 1: I Turned Pretty. We were watching at home with the
• 33:50
  Speaker 1: Walter boys.
• 33:51
  Speaker 2: What the fuck is that? It's got Donna from Suits
• 33:54
  Speaker 2: in it. It's kind of the same teenage purpose.
• 33:56
  Speaker 1: You guys need to watch something that's actually trending at
• 33:59
  Speaker 1: the moment. You and Rhys have been watching The Block.
• 34:01
  Speaker 1: I'm like, are you guys just middle-aged now? I will
• 34:04
  Speaker 1: not have you say a bad thing against that show anymore.
• 34:07
  Speaker 1: The Block is my comfort show at the moment. You
• 34:09
  Speaker 1: guys are fucking tragic. I don't know who watches free-to-air
• 34:12
  Speaker 1: TV anymore.
• 34:13
  Speaker 2: Get on Netflix.
• 34:13
  Speaker 1: Hey, I was listening to the Baby Talk podcast with
• 34:17
  Speaker 1: Taylor Broad and Lana Murphy, and they both love The Block.
• 34:20
  Speaker 2: So I think you need to get around it.
• 34:21
  Speaker 4: All right.
• 34:22
  Speaker 1: Well, can someone please convince Kate to watch the third
• 34:25
  Speaker 1: series of the summer?
• 34:26
  Speaker 2: I will watch it if you watch The Block. I'm
• 34:28
  Speaker 2: not watching The Block. I've missed it all. It's on free-to-air.
• 34:30
  Speaker 2: I've missed it. It's on catch-up.
• 34:32
  Speaker 4: I'm not.
• 34:32
  Speaker 2: Well, okay. I'll give it a go.
• 34:34
  Speaker 1: Just watch Summer I Turn Pretty and I want to
• 34:35
  Speaker 1: know if you're Team Conrad or Team Jeremiah.
• 34:37
  Speaker 4: All right.
• 34:38
  Speaker 1: Well, I think that's where we're going to leave things today.
• 34:40
  Speaker 1: If you do want to hear more content from us,
• 34:42
  Speaker 1: we drop a subscription-only episode every Thursday. It's basically an
• 34:46
  Speaker 1: extension of this show. If you want to subscribe, all
• 34:49
  Speaker 1: the details are in the notes. It's available now on
• 34:51
  Speaker 1: Spotify and on Apple Podcasts. If you do enjoy the show,
• 34:55
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• 34:58
  Speaker 1: If you do enjoy the podcast, we would really appreciate
• 35:00
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• 35:02
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• 35:05
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• 35:08
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