Latest / Sid & Friends In The Morning / Victoria Coates | Former Deputy National Security Advisor & Current VP of The Heritage Foundation | 06-12-26
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- 0:25Speaker 2: Here's a Victoria coach Victoria, Good morning sweeth on Hawaii.
- 0:30Speaker 3: Good morning fit. I'm great, like I'm hearing a good mood.
- 0:34Speaker 2: I like when you come on lambing. That makes me happy.
- 0:36Speaker 2: That's good. That means I'm doing my job. Hi, So,
- 0:39Speaker 2: are you going to be in a show with me
- 0:41Speaker 2: next week? Right?
- 0:42Speaker 3: Uh huh, we'll all be in the hole, Islan. That's
- 0:44Speaker 3: why we're in a good mood. Go back.
- 0:46Speaker 2: I think you're right. That's why subconsciously I think you're
- 0:50Speaker 2: Are you going to speak that same block on that
- 0:52Speaker 2: TUESDA night like last time?
- 0:54Speaker 3: I think so? And then I've got a couple of
- 0:56Speaker 3: these policy forums that we've been working on. So, so
- 1:01Speaker 3: I think I've got three things that I have to do,
- 1:04Speaker 3: and I think that Tuesday night is one of them.
- 1:06Speaker 3: That's either the first night or the last night.
- 1:08Speaker 2: But the first night they've got Hukabe and Bibie, so
- 1:11Speaker 2: you can't go wrong there either. But three things. That's
- 1:14Speaker 2: that's such impressive. You go back all the time. How
- 1:17Speaker 2: many times have you been back to Israel since the
- 1:18Speaker 2: war started?
- 1:20Speaker 3: Since the Iran War?
- 1:21Speaker 2: This will be a modi no, no, since I'm sorry,
- 1:24Speaker 2: since October seventh.
- 1:26Speaker 3: I don't know. I don't know, maybe half dos them.
- 1:29Speaker 3: It's not it's been less frequent, I mean, because people
- 1:32Speaker 3: frequently ask me how many times I've been to Israel
- 1:35Speaker 3: and I say, I have no idea. Maybe some number
- 1:39Speaker 3: of times, but it's you know, it's been a little
- 1:43Speaker 3: bit camped down, just because it's hard to get a
- 1:45Speaker 3: plane ticket at this point.
- 1:46Speaker 2: Oh and so hard. Let me tell you how hard
- 1:48Speaker 2: it is. I'm actually taking an airline I've never heard of,
- 1:50Speaker 2: but I guess for the last two years they've been
- 1:52Speaker 2: going non stop from Kennedy to Tel Aviv. They're called
- 1:55Speaker 2: Archaia Airlines. Have you hear them?
- 1:57Speaker 3: Huh? No, I'm taking one for the team and flying Emirates.
- 2:01Speaker 2: Oh, oh, I love him. Oh I flew back. I'm
- 2:05Speaker 2: going to tell you something right now. I flew back
- 2:08Speaker 2: from Greece last year after a Cypress trip on Emirates,
- 2:12Speaker 2: and I'm going to say this at the risk of
- 2:13Speaker 2: pissing off l Aal, it was the best flight I
- 2:16Speaker 2: ever took. The best.
- 2:18Speaker 3: Oh, it's not even close, right, I mean, and I
- 2:21Speaker 3: know everyone has their reviews on Qatar, but cutar error
- 2:24Speaker 3: and Emirates and Ada had are just a cut above.
- 2:27Speaker 2: I agree. I can't believe on the green, but I
- 2:30Speaker 2: agree with you. It's like it's a complete cut above.
- 2:33Speaker 2: It's not not even close. They figured it out, Yeah,
- 2:37Speaker 2: they really did.
- 2:37Speaker 3: Well.
- 2:38Speaker 2: I'll ask you this, and then we'll get to the
- 2:39Speaker 2: Iran war because I mentioned this column they wrote about
- 2:42Speaker 2: me today and how I opened up about all my
- 2:44Speaker 2: Israel visits. I'm going back, and one of the questions
- 2:47Speaker 2: the writer Garrett asked me was what is it about Israel?
- 2:51Speaker 2: Why do you keep going back? So if I asked
- 2:53Speaker 2: Victoria Coats, above the obvious above and beyond which is
- 2:56Speaker 2: they were in the news, there's a war, there's Lebanon
- 2:59Speaker 2: above them, me on that. What does Victoria quotes? Keep
- 3:02Speaker 2: going back?
- 3:05Speaker 3: I think I keep going back because it reminds me
- 3:07Speaker 3: of America. You know, we have these countries that were
- 3:11Speaker 3: based on concepts, on ideas, and that there is a
- 3:17Speaker 3: very intense sense of patriotism and of commitment to something
- 3:24Speaker 3: bigger than ourselves individually. And so you know, I just
- 3:28Speaker 3: I think you get that sort of rough and tumble,
- 3:31Speaker 3: startup nation kind of vibe that was so present here
- 3:35Speaker 3: two hundred and fifty years ago and is still here.
- 3:38Speaker 3: All I have to do is scratch the service. You
- 3:39Speaker 3: don't even have to scratch the surface. Look what's happening
- 3:42Speaker 3: with Elon today. That's not happening anywhere else in the world.
- 3:45Speaker 3: It's happening here in the United States. We're going to
- 3:47Speaker 3: mint our first trillionaire. Can the Chinese do that? No?
- 3:51Speaker 3: Can the Europeans do it? No? The Americans can do it.
- 3:54Speaker 3: And you know who would probably be next in line
- 3:56Speaker 3: would be the Israelis.
- 3:57Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 3:58Speaker 3: So, I just the spirit of the place just gives
- 4:02Speaker 3: me chills every time I land. And you know, I'm
- 4:04Speaker 3: a Christian. I love being in the Holyland.
- 4:07Speaker 2: Boy, you you just that was perfect. I gotta tell you. Victoria.
- 4:11Speaker 2: That was really perfect, That was very well done. So
- 4:14Speaker 2: let's get to the big story to here today, though,
- 4:16Speaker 2: that is the Iran deal. I've already had Katie mcfalland
- 4:20Speaker 2: on the show. I suppoke to Brian kill Mead earlier.
- 4:22Speaker 2: I had Mike Huckabee Life on Israel on the show today,
- 4:24Speaker 2: and I keep saying the same thing. I don't like
- 4:27Speaker 2: the deal no matter what it is, because no matter
- 4:29Speaker 2: how Trump and you know how much I love the President,
- 4:31Speaker 2: I love him, he loves me, I love him. No
- 4:33Speaker 2: matter how he presents this deal, it's gonna be very
- 4:35Speaker 2: similar to Obama and carry did. There's no choice, and
- 4:38Speaker 2: they're never gonna comply ever, ever, ever. And we can't
- 4:41Speaker 2: give them money because if we loosen restrictions and sanctions,
- 4:44Speaker 2: you know where that money go. So a deal for
- 4:47Speaker 2: me is blow them to Smithereens and then let's rebuild
- 4:52Speaker 2: and see what happens down the road. But to give
- 4:54Speaker 2: these people anything anything, to me is insane. What are
- 4:58Speaker 2: your thoughts?
- 5:00Speaker 3: Well, I hear you said, and you know I have,
- 5:02Speaker 3: as we've discussed, no fondness for the Iranian regime. And
- 5:05Speaker 3: nothing makes me happier than when somebody's dropping bombs on them.
- 5:08Speaker 3: So I don't really want that to stop. But at
- 5:11Speaker 3: the same time, you know, as you look at this
- 5:14Speaker 3: from for that policy making perspective, what we don't want
- 5:19Speaker 3: to see is Iran collapse into sort of factional violence.
- 5:25Speaker 3: And bear in mind, you know, you've got a Persian
- 5:27Speaker 3: majority in Iran, but then you've got very large sort
- 5:31Speaker 3: of minority populations, the largest of which is these areas.
- 5:35Speaker 3: Then you've got the Blues, You've got the Kurds. There
- 5:37Speaker 3: are all these groups, and what I think the President
- 5:40Speaker 3: wants to see is an orderly transition. So I've been
- 5:44Speaker 3: thinking about this a little bit like the collapse of
- 5:46Speaker 3: the Soviet Union, which could have been a complete catastrophe
- 5:50Speaker 3: resulting in a whole bunch of little nuclear armed states,
- 5:54Speaker 3: and instead Reagan was able to manage towards what he
- 5:57Speaker 3: can call a Gorbachev moment, where because of what we
- 6:02Speaker 3: were doing to the Soviet Union economically and there in mind,
- 6:05Speaker 3: the Saudis were a great partner in that. Because of that,
- 6:09Speaker 3: Gorbachev was forced to make some concessions that baked in
- 6:12Speaker 3: the collapse of the Soviet Union, but it could be managed.
- 6:16Speaker 3: So I think what the President has done to Iran
- 6:19Speaker 3: militarily over the last three months, and nobody else has
- 6:22Speaker 3: done anything even remotely like that to the Iranians. I
- 6:25Speaker 3: think they're still reeling from what has happened to them.
- 6:28Speaker 3: I don't even think they know entirely. And then on
- 6:30Speaker 3: top of it, what's been done economically, and Secretary Bessant
- 6:34Speaker 3: has just been a warrior on this. I'm so impressed
- 6:37Speaker 3: with him and with his team, and that they believe
- 6:41Speaker 3: that if they could get some meaningful concessions in this deal,
- 6:45Speaker 3: then we're going to have this kind of slow, train
- 6:48Speaker 3: wrecked failure in Iran, but it'll be something we can manage.
- 6:51Speaker 3: We can help make sure that that is at least
- 6:54Speaker 3: somewhat orderly transitioned to a better Iran for the region
- 6:58Speaker 3: and for the United States.
- 7:00Speaker 2: This Ukraine Russia war, I believe, is now almost sixteen
- 7:06Speaker 2: hundred days old. It's some crazy number. And President Trump
- 7:12Speaker 2: twenty won, he said on this show. In many places,
- 7:14Speaker 2: he said, Sit, I gotta tell you I've solved eight
- 7:17Speaker 2: orw complicts. Maybe he's able to really produce east piece
- 7:21Speaker 2: in the Middle East. He's trying, certainly trying, he said.
- 7:23Speaker 2: The one I thought would be the easiest I really
- 7:25Speaker 2: did was Russia Ukraine. He goes, you know, he and Zelenski,
- 7:29Speaker 2: you know, he pulls me around like a puppet. He
- 7:32Speaker 2: and Putin likes him. He said, I really thought that
- 7:34Speaker 2: would be the easiest one. Is that thing anywhere near
- 7:39Speaker 2: ever coming to an end?
- 7:42Speaker 3: Well, it's your lucky day, said, because just about two
- 7:44Speaker 3: hours ago, I have an op ed on Fox that
- 7:47Speaker 3: just dropped on this topic as titled something something like that.
- 7:51Speaker 3: Look now that President Trump may have just saved Ukraine,
- 7:55Speaker 3: asked the Russians. So you know, look I've been looking
- 7:59Speaker 3: at this. You know, we had that Oval Office meeting.
- 8:02Speaker 3: Everybody rang their hands and clutched their pearls and called
- 8:05Speaker 3: for their ou declone. The president had upset the apple
- 8:08Speaker 3: karte with Ukraine, that Putin was going to seize the country.
- 8:11Speaker 3: You know, we're now in year five, as you were
- 8:13Speaker 3: just saying, of his three day war. I don't think
- 8:15Speaker 3: that's a big metric of success personally, but if you
- 8:19Speaker 3: look at what's happening in Ukraine after that Oval Office meetings,
- 8:22Speaker 3: ze Lensky went back and said, you know those drones
- 8:25Speaker 3: were making we got to make ten times as many.
- 8:27Speaker 3: We got to make them go ten times through and
- 8:29Speaker 3: they wound up with these incredible long range and attack
- 8:33Speaker 3: drones that they're now selling all around the world. They're
- 8:36Speaker 3: cranking those things out. They're making their own one fifty rounds.
- 8:40Speaker 3: Remember it's two three years ago. Oh my gosh, the
- 8:43Speaker 3: United States is pulling the one fifty rounds out of
- 8:45Speaker 3: our stockpile in Israel to give them to Ukraine. It
- 8:48Speaker 3: was a terrible situation. Now Ukraine's making their own and
- 8:51Speaker 3: exporting them, and so you know, this is the President's
- 8:55Speaker 3: tough love and the other thing they're asking for, and
- 8:58Speaker 3: I think we need to look at this very careful.
- 9:00Speaker 3: Are the licenses for them to manufacture the pack three
- 9:04Speaker 3: interceptors for the patriots, and we make about sixty of
- 9:08Speaker 3: those a month. Ukraine is currently firing about seventy a month.
- 9:12Speaker 3: That mass doesn't work. I'm all for by American but
- 9:16Speaker 3: we make sixty for everyone, including ourselves, and they need seventy.
- 9:22Speaker 3: And so you know, maybe it's not the Pack three
- 9:24Speaker 3: because they are sensitive, but we should take a good
- 9:26Speaker 3: look at it. Biden was too timid to do it,
- 9:29Speaker 3: but it's the kind of thing that allows Ukraine to
- 9:32Speaker 3: help itself. And then they can help allies. If Israel
- 9:35Speaker 3: needs more pack threes and Ukraine's cranking them out, they
- 9:38Speaker 3: can give them to Israel if we need ours for
- 9:40Speaker 3: something in the Pacific. This is a much better model
- 9:43Speaker 3: going forward. It's all because the President broke with the
- 9:46Speaker 3: stupid as much as it takes, as long as it
- 9:48Speaker 3: takes Biden approach, which was just building dependency and debt.
- 9:53Speaker 3: And the really shameful thing is the idiots in Congress
- 9:57Speaker 3: are now trying to stuff that genie back in the bottle.
- 10:00Speaker 3: They're trying to pass another Ukraine appropriations and a bunch
- 10:04Speaker 3: of Republicans in the House who should have known better
- 10:06Speaker 3: voted with the Democrats. It's gone to the Senate. It's
- 10:09Speaker 3: another ten billion dollars for Ukraine that I don't know
- 10:12Speaker 3: that they need it right now. I mean, let's look
- 10:14Speaker 3: at what they actually need. Let's not just go back
- 10:17Speaker 3: to this mindless check writing. And if they can make
- 10:20Speaker 3: more progress, they can threaten Putent's logistic lines with these drones. Great,
- 10:25Speaker 3: let's get Putin to the table and not feeling like
- 10:27Speaker 3: he's king of the universe and that maybe he's going
- 10:29Speaker 3: to have to make a bunch of concessions too. If
- 10:31Speaker 3: he wants to wrap this thing up.
- 10:32Speaker 2: And now where is this otpit? He said on box
- 10:34Speaker 2: news right now.
- 10:36Speaker 3: Apparently it's number two. A maybe it's to number one,
- 10:39Speaker 3: so everyone click on it.
- 10:40Speaker 2: Oh no, it's got to be number one. That was
- 10:42Speaker 2: just a brilliant, brilliant way to handle this this conflict
- 10:47Speaker 2: from a bunch of country standpoints. So Victoria Coats quota
- 10:51Speaker 2: boxnews dot com and make sure that the herro op
- 10:53Speaker 2: ed is number one. And I'll see you Victoria in
- 10:56Speaker 2: the Holy Land next weekend. Thank you so much.
- 10:59Speaker 3: Great job, next time in jurisalem sit all.
- 11:02Speaker 2: Right, they're that's really gonna happen. Actually, Victoria, you have
- 11:05Speaker 2: a safe trip and b well, I can't wait to
- 11:07Speaker 2: see you. That's a great job, folks. Check her out
- 11:09Speaker 2: boxnews dot com her new op ed. Victoria Coats happens
- 11:13Speaker 2: to be the vice president of the Heritage Foundation. She's great.
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