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Seattle WINS the "Big Game", Patriots STRUGGLE, NFL Awards · 3 and Out with John Middlekauff

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Speaker 1: The volume. What is going on everybody? John Middlecoff Three
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Speaker 1: and Out Podcast, Super Bowl Sunday. Well, it's great if
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Speaker 1: you're a Sam Donald, a Seattle Seahawks fan. It is
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Speaker 1: not good if you're a New England Patriot fan, because
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Speaker 1: that at one point it was nine to nothing and
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Speaker 1: it felt like a blowout, so the Patriots got overwhelmed.
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Speaker 1: I actually just had a buddy send me a tweet
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Speaker 1: about Will Campbell saying that Will Campbell allowed more pressures
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Speaker 1: in this game than any player did all season in
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Speaker 1: an individual game, so it did not go well for
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Speaker 1: the left tackle. We'll talk for Super Bowl. We'll talk
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Speaker 1: Sam Donald, We'll talk Mike McDonald, we'll talk to Seattle Seahawks,
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Speaker 1: we'll talk to Atriots. Uh, we're gonna have to dust
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Speaker 1: themselves off, improve their team, and come back swinging. I
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Speaker 1: also recorded before the Super Bowl some stuff on uh
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Speaker 1: Stafford winning the MVP, the Hall of Fame guys pierced,
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Speaker 1: the Atlanta Falcons pass rusher who got in some trouble,
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Speaker 1: and what was the other thing, Oh, the quarterback schefter
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Speaker 1: about Tua and Kyler Murray. We're gonna those guys are
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Speaker 1: gonna teams are gonna try to trade them. Derek Carr's
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Speaker 1: gonna return potentially, we'll see, So we'll just be a
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Speaker 1: lot a lot of football going on. I before recorded
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Speaker 1: this went on with Colin who was just you know,
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Speaker 1: beaming year to year about Sam Darnold winning the uh
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Speaker 1: winning the Super Bowl. So I mean, it was a
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Speaker 1: cool moment, very very genuine cool moment, which we will
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Speaker 1: dive into. But listen, I need to subscribe if you
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Speaker 1: go check that out on Netflix. Appreciate everyone who came
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Speaker 1: along the ride for the sea and it's been a
2:01
Speaker 1: long season. So probably do a couple more podcasts this
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Speaker 1: week and then maybe take like a week off before
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Speaker 1: the combine. Also, need to help my wife. We have
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Speaker 1: a four year old that kind of beats to his
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Speaker 1: own drum, so we'll dive into that later on the
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Speaker 1: Dad Diaries. But we're gonna talk football to night, so
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Speaker 1: let's just dive right in. Let's just I want to
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Speaker 1: read a tweet that was forwarded me from Logan Swain,
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Speaker 1: one of our big wigs here at the volume. He
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Speaker 1: put me on a on a group text with with
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Speaker 1: Colin and here was the tweet. After Sam Darnold won
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Speaker 1: his first game as the Jets quarterback, Todd Bowles had
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Speaker 1: this to say, trying to calm the fans down. We
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Speaker 1: won one game. I can tell you after about one
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Speaker 1: hundred more of them whether we have the guy or not.
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Speaker 1: Right now, it's a little early. The super Bowl was
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Speaker 1: Sam Darnold's one hundred first game. And I think part
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Speaker 1: of any good organization is the ability to sustain winning,
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Speaker 1: regardless of players, coaches and general managers. Can you sustain
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Speaker 1: and elevate players from other teams that did not have success?
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Speaker 1: Obviously you have to hit on like a Cooper Cup,
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Speaker 1: get a guy who was a really excellent player getting
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Speaker 1: a little older you can get for cheap. That's part
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Speaker 1: of the NFL business, right The Packers, the Ravens, the Steelers,
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Speaker 1: all the good teams do that. But can you take
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Speaker 1: players who are viewed as distressed assets, as viewed as
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Speaker 1: not good enough to play the role in which you're
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Speaker 1: gonna ask them to do, and then have them excel?
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Speaker 1: Because we all you gotta hit on draft picks, right,
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Speaker 1: you got to hit on the right coach but to
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Speaker 1: be really good at the NFL, can you find distressed
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Speaker 1: assets and make them contributing players. What they did was
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Speaker 1: Sam Donald, and really the last couple of years was
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Speaker 1: Sam Donald. I said this coming into the game. It's
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Speaker 1: one of the more genuine stories I can remember. It's
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Speaker 1: like kind of a human interest story. I just recorded
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Speaker 1: with Coward and I completely agreed with him that there
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Speaker 1: is a lot of life lessons to be learned when
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Speaker 1: it comes to the way Sam Donald handled his career.
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Speaker 1: I've been fired a couple times. It sucked, and it's
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Speaker 1: hard for people in my life to relate.
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Speaker 2: My dad was a farmer.
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Speaker 1: If you got fired, it was because you like show
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Speaker 1: up late or not working hard. Certain industries, coaching, the
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Speaker 1: NFL radio, crazy shit happens. You almost get hired to
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Speaker 1: get fired. And there is a level in anyone listening
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Speaker 1: to this that are in competitive. Whatever field you work
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Speaker 1: in that is highly competitive, You're not always gonna win.
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Speaker 1: You are going to take some l's. Anyone listening to
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Speaker 1: this in sales, you are gonna hear no way more
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Speaker 1: than you ever hear. Yes, anyone tried to find their
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Speaker 1: future wife, you know you're gonna have some bad dates.
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Speaker 1: You're gonna have some people stand you up, You're gonna
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Speaker 1: have some people ghost you. Guess what part of life
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Speaker 1: dusting yourself off, getting yourself up off the mat, having
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Speaker 1: a good positive outlook on the future, because optimism and
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Speaker 1: hope and a positive mindset does matter. And one thing
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Speaker 1: was evidently clear about Sam Darnold the way every player
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Speaker 1: that played with them, going back to the Jets, but
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Speaker 1: definitely in Carolina, the forty nine ers in Minnesota, the
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Speaker 1: way they talked about the guy. I'm guilty of this.
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Speaker 1: I'm sure many of you listening are guilty of this.
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Speaker 1: It's easy to be negative, honestly, it's easy to not
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Speaker 1: take account of it. And trust listen, I've gone through
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Speaker 1: about four weeks now of not sleeping much. It's easy
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Speaker 1: to get in some contentious fights in your own home.
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Speaker 1: No one had any sleep, and to point the finger
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Speaker 1: and to put the blame on someone else instead of
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Speaker 1: taking accountability and pointing the finger at yourself and saying,
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Speaker 1: what can I do better? What did I do wrong?
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Speaker 1: How do I get better? And when you do that,
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Speaker 1: I do think it opens up the ability to improve
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Speaker 1: and to get better. Now, Sam was a third pick
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Speaker 1: in the draft part of the field. He has physical attributes.
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Speaker 1: He's six', five you can, move he's got a big.
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Speaker 1: Arm but when you've watched him conduct these, interviews when
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Speaker 1: he was asked during The Super bowl about the jet,
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Speaker 1: situation he never mf. Them he never did what most
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Speaker 1: of us would have. Done i'm SURE i probably would
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Speaker 1: have done, that taking some shots at the organization it
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Speaker 1: was lowing. Fruit no one would have blamed. Him his
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Speaker 1: comments would have gone viral and everyone would have. Agreed,
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Speaker 1: instead he did the. Opposite he, SAID i thank them
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Speaker 1: for the. OPPORTUNITIES i aspired to be AN nfl, quarterback
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Speaker 1: and they made me AN nfl quarterback and they gave
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Speaker 1: me an opportunity to. Start and do you know what
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Speaker 1: good organizations do they see that in the? Guy because
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Speaker 1: football like, tonight you, know talking TO schrm at The
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Speaker 1: Super bowl, party who obviously played For Pete carroll and
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Speaker 1: the great teams In seattle and then for The Super
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Speaker 1: bowl team with the forty nine, ers it's not just
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Speaker 1: evaluating like obviously certain guys are bad, guys but they're great.
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Speaker 1: Players this pro sports you're gonna need them most. Though
7:43
Speaker 1: of the really really good, teams they're great players are
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Speaker 1: also their hardest workers and best, teammates even some of
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Speaker 1: their crazy. Guys i've told this story. Before Bobby april
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Speaker 1: was our special teams coach WHEN i was with The.
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Speaker 1: Eagles his, Son Bobby april the, third just became the
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Speaker 1: linebacker coach for The Buffalo, bills and he was the
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Speaker 1: special teams coach in the early nineties for The Atlanta.
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Speaker 1: Falcons AND i used to pick his, brain, like what
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Speaker 1: was it like Coaching Deon sanders like the prime of his?
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Speaker 1: Career he, said you, know the funny part is everyone
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Speaker 1: talked about Dionn he's making like rat, Videos he's wearing you,
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Speaker 1: know crazy, clothes and he had all the. Dances he
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Speaker 1: always sat in the front of the. Meeting he always
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Speaker 1: took the best. Notes he always knew exactly what we were.
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Speaker 1: Doing like football, Character obviously personal character treating people well
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Speaker 1: and being a good guy. Matter but football character shows
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Speaker 1: when you watch a team. Play it shows when you
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Speaker 1: Watch sam dermald. Play and Obviously John snyder's ability to
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Speaker 1: pick these type, players going back fifteen years to The
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Speaker 1: Earl thomas Cam, Chancellor Richard, Sherman Bobby, wagner kJ, wright
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Speaker 1: that Whole crew to the way these guys, play it
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Speaker 1: looks the. Same they fly around the field and they
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Speaker 1: just destroy. People their football character on that football, team
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Speaker 1: From Sam darnold to all the guys on defense is.
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Speaker 1: Elite it's just evident when you watch them, play their
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Speaker 1: physicality on defense and part of being a good, organization you,
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Speaker 1: Know seattle Wins Super. Bowl John schneider came From Green
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Speaker 1: bay where they have been. Winning my entire, life, well
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Speaker 1: WHEN i came into my own in the mid nineties
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Speaker 1: watching THE, nfl it Was Mike, Holmgren Ron, Wolf Brett.
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Speaker 1: Fath last TIME i checked this year when they had
9:28
Speaker 1: made the, playoffs, again none of those guys are. Around
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Speaker 1: it Was Matt, Lafor Brian goodikins And Jordan. Love previously
9:37
Speaker 1: it Was Ted, Thompson mike McCarthy And Aaron. Rodgers it's,
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Speaker 1: like can you st to stay in as an organization
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Speaker 1: as you change in and out different personnel because the
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Speaker 1: standard within the organization has kind of been set now
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Speaker 1: in a weird, way THE gm has stayed, consistent AND
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Speaker 1: i Think John schneider has brought like This Green bay
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Speaker 1: sustainability to seat which is now kind of like a
10:02
Speaker 1: Coastal packers Or Pittsburgh. Steelers WHEN i was in, College
10:06
Speaker 1: Bill cower, quit they Hired Mike. Tomlin they didn't skip
10:09
Speaker 1: a freaking. Beat more than likely The Pittsburgh steelers are
10:13
Speaker 1: going to be competitive With mike. McCarthy The Baltimore, Ravens
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Speaker 1: John harbaugh gets, FIRED i would imagine they'll be good next.
10:21
Speaker 1: Year you know, why because it's an organizational. Mentality and
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Speaker 1: even As seattle went into a little bit of a
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Speaker 1: lull during the end of The Pete carroll kind Of
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Speaker 1: Russell Wilson Gino smith, years they were still going like
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Speaker 1: ten and, seven nine and. Eight it's not like they
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Speaker 1: were two and three. Wins it's not like they were The.
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Speaker 1: Titans it's not like they were The. Raiders it's not
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Speaker 1: like they turned into The New York. Giants they were extremely.
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Speaker 1: Competitive they just were missed some pieces and their ceiling
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Speaker 1: wasn't that. High but they were, building they were adding good,
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Speaker 1: players and they made incredible personnel.
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Speaker 2: Moves they really, did.
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Speaker 1: Starting with the, coach which is the most important person
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Speaker 1: to go. For Pete, carroll whose resume IS i mean pretty.
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Speaker 1: Unique he's coached like five DIFFERENT nfl, Teams he's won
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Speaker 1: national championships in, college he's won Super bowl in the. Pros,
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Speaker 1: like there ain't many people with that. Resume so even
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Speaker 1: if it was time to, end it's not easy to replace.
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Speaker 1: Him Ask New York giants fans how hard it was
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Speaker 1: to Replace Tom. Coughlin hiring coaches is like drafting. Players
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Speaker 1: it is really really. Difficult and they Hired mike, McDonald
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Speaker 1: who by a second. YEAR i, mean at one point
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Speaker 1: in time to, NIGHT i think we would all agree
11:35
Speaker 1: you could have just given him THE. Mvp it's, like you,
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Speaker 1: Know Kenneth walker's numbers were, good but they weren't like
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Speaker 1: all time.
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Speaker 2: Great you're not gonna.
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Speaker 1: Give it to the field goal. Kicker donald was just
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Speaker 1: doing a solid. JOB i was, Like i'd give THE.
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Speaker 2: Mvp To mike.
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Speaker 1: McDonald i really. Would he is Destroying Drake, may who
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Speaker 1: finished second in THE mvp, award And josh, McDaniels who's
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Speaker 1: been an offensive coordinator in like Ten Super, bowls fifty playoff,
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Speaker 1: games and he's just taking him behind the Woodshed ben
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Speaker 1: and him. Over josh is saying, uncle and he's not.
12:06
Speaker 1: Stopping it was, like this is an. Ask they got no,
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Speaker 1: clue what's going? On you Got Drake macy And. Ghosts
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Speaker 1: you Got Will campbell who can't do anything on the,
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Speaker 1: outside the rest of their offensive line or. Swimming you
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Speaker 1: got pressures coming from all. Over they are just working,
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Speaker 1: them and every single play kind of looked the same
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Speaker 1: Pressure DB's flying. Around it had some parallels to that.
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Speaker 1: Team what was that twenty thirteen. FOURTEEN i mean we're
12:33
Speaker 1: talking over a decade. Ago wasn't quite the, same but
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Speaker 1: had some similarities of just absolutely overwhelming the opponent and
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Speaker 1: that's what they. Did and to, me it was an
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Speaker 1: organizational dominant, performance starting From schneider to McDonald To Sam,
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Speaker 1: darnold to the entire, defense to all the personnel. MOVES
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Speaker 1: i mean they Traded Russell, wilson which at the, Time
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Speaker 1: i'm not gonna. LIE i gotta take a huge. L
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Speaker 1: i thought it was. Insane, NOW i wasn't on a.
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Speaker 1: TECH i didn't Have John schneider's number at the, time
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Speaker 1: SO i didn't get all the. Reasoning BUT i disagreed
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Speaker 1: BECAUSE i was, like you don't have a. QUARTERBACK i,
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Speaker 1: mean they Had, geno but at the, time no one
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Speaker 1: Thought gino was gonna be as good As gino turned
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Speaker 1: out to. Be but you're gonna Trade Russell wilson To.
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Speaker 1: Denver you got no. Quarterback this is gonna be a.
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Speaker 1: Problem he goes To denver resident. History they. Suck they
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Speaker 1: get the fifth. Pick they Take, witherspoon who looked like
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Speaker 1: Fucking Ronnie lott. Tonight over the next couple of, years
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Speaker 1: they're TAKING, jsn they're taking a stud, guard they're Taking Emon,
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Speaker 1: warry they're signing Sam. Donold teams just. AWESOME i, mean
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Speaker 1: if it wasn't For, stafford who was kind of like
13:38
Speaker 1: The Rogers Peyton brady right now in the league in
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Speaker 1: terms of he's got like fifteen eighteen years of, Experience
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Speaker 1: he's seen it. All he still has the big. Arm
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Speaker 1: he's kind of mastered the position, mentally so even though
13:51
Speaker 1: he's playing the best defense in the best defensive coordinator
13:53
Speaker 1: in the, league he could have. Success also, helps he's
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Speaker 1: Got Pooka, nakula who's Like Adrian peterson mixed With Jerry. Rice,
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Speaker 1: Like i've never a wide receiver coach in the league
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Speaker 1: said no wide receiver plays. Harder he's, like that's one
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Speaker 1: of his. Superpowers how Hard pooka plays. Clear he just
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Speaker 1: kind of Owned seattle And. Devonte you know future to
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Speaker 1: Me hall Of fame. Player so you got two wide receivers,
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Speaker 1: McVeigh that's just a batchup that they were able to Handle.
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Speaker 1: Seattle no one else. CAN i mean he's. Played Even
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Speaker 1: Kyle shanahan today said in the pre game like you're
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Speaker 1: asking me for. TIPS i, MEAN i haven't scored touchdown
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Speaker 1: on him last couple. Weeks he's dominated that he's owned.
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Speaker 1: THEM i, mean this guy was listen week in debate
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Speaker 1: like To drake may have been in THE mvp. Mix
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Speaker 1: he did have a good. Season he was playing you, know,
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Speaker 1: nobody but he was still kicking their. Ass made him
14:43
Speaker 1: look like A jv. Player tonight absolutely punked. Him so
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Speaker 1: congrats To. Seattle just a complete ass kicking validation of
14:52
Speaker 1: just an unreal. SEASON i, MEAN I i thought they
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Speaker 1: were undervalued coming into the season to win the. Division
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Speaker 1: not in a million years WOULD i have guessed that
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Speaker 1: they would win. This and you, know you, know a
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Speaker 1: lot's gonna be saying where Does donald? Rank he's a
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Speaker 1: really good. PLAYER i MEAN i Saw Jimmy garoppolo lead
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Speaker 1: the forty nine ers to A Super, bowl to AN
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Speaker 1: nfc championship game and just be an incredible. Game. MANAGER
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Speaker 1: i Saw Alex smith With john Or Jim harbaugh and
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Speaker 1: then and Then Andy reid have like a six to
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Speaker 1: seven year run where he was just a really really good, player,
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Speaker 1: Right and both of those guys had a big, Time
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Speaker 1: like their ceiling wasn't that. High that's the thing With.
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Speaker 1: Sam he can play games where it's floor is solid
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Speaker 1: and just be a game. Manager but he has a
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Speaker 1: high ceiling because he can, move and he's got a huge,
15:39
Speaker 1: arm and he will fucking throw some. Bombs so and
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Speaker 1: he's under a very very team friendly. Contract and let's face,
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Speaker 1: it once you win the ring takes a little pressure off.
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Speaker 1: You you're not trying to prove it to everybody week,
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Speaker 1: in week. Out and back to The donald mindset of
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Speaker 1: that's not the way he's wired. Anyway he's not really
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Speaker 1: a chip on his shoulder, guy Like Tom brady's a
16:06
Speaker 1: chip on his shoulder. Guy Aaron rodgers is.
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Speaker 2: A chip on his shoulder.
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Speaker 1: Guy AND i think that goes back for both those.
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Speaker 1: Guys you, Know rogers plummeted in the first, Round brady
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Speaker 1: didn't go till pick one ninety. Nine Sam donald won pick.
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Speaker 1: Three Sam donald's LIKE i was drafted in my own
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Speaker 1: class Above Josh, Allen Lamar. Jackson like that was the
16:24
Speaker 1: thing that. Happened sam donald was drafted Before Josh allen
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Speaker 1: And Lamar.
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Speaker 2: Jackson think about.
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Speaker 1: THAT i, mean those guys have made a combined five
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Speaker 1: hundred million. Dollars they've won three. MVPs Sam donalds was
16:35
Speaker 1: drafted ahead of. Him and, now unlike those, guys he's
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Speaker 1: a Super bowl. Champion and this is, Weird like he's
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Speaker 1: not a Super bowl champion where this guy's a first
16:43
Speaker 1: Bout hall Of famer Like brady Or mahomes or you,
16:46
Speaker 1: Know Peyton. Manning but he's not a Super bowl champion
16:49
Speaker 1: Like Brad johnson Or Trent. Dilfer he's kind of in
16:54
Speaker 1: this weird middle. Ground like he's twenty eight to twenty
16:58
Speaker 1: nine years. Old he's just in his stride these last
17:01
Speaker 1: couple of. YEARS i think if he was a, STOCK
17:05
Speaker 1: i would invest more money into. HIM i don't know
17:08
Speaker 1: why this can't just. Maintain how do things typically maintain
17:13
Speaker 1: when you're in good? Places back to The, ravens back
17:17
Speaker 1: to The, steelers back to The. Packers what the chiefs? Are?
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Speaker 1: Now these good organizations just sustain. It they are well.
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Speaker 1: Run we saw it this year with the hiring, CYCLE
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Speaker 1: i mean there were some some of these teams are.
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Speaker 1: Terrible we'll talk about it a little bit. Later but
17:35
Speaker 1: The Atlanta, falcons, now these guys all got, fired traded
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Speaker 1: a first round pick to trade up to pick twenty
17:41
Speaker 1: six for a major red flag. Guy you might want
17:45
Speaker 1: to google some of the details coming out About James.
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Speaker 1: Pearce pretty, ugly like bad organizations just too dumb shit
17:52
Speaker 1: over and over and over. Again the good ones kind
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Speaker 1: of know what they're. Doing and when you got A
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Speaker 1: hall Of FAME gm And John schneider And mike. McDonald
18:01
Speaker 1: this is a league in a. SPORT i guess in,
18:04
Speaker 1: college you Know Sabin, Kirby, Smart Dan. Lanning we talk
18:08
Speaker 1: about defensive. Guys you could be a star in college
18:11
Speaker 1: as a defensive. Guy in THE, nfl we kind of
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Speaker 1: hold offensive guys to a different level of a.
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Speaker 2: Steam we just. DO i, mean look at the league this.
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Speaker 1: Year andy was kind of the king coming into the
18:22
Speaker 1: season right five out elastic super. Bowls Sean, payton even
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Speaker 1: though his offense sucks like, well A Super bowl. Champion
18:28
Speaker 1: Drew brees was his. Quarterback from McVeigh To kyle To
18:32
Speaker 1: lafloor To kevin O'Connell to kind of To Liam, Cohen
18:35
Speaker 1: like this whole crew of like young offensive guys we
18:38
Speaker 1: just we talk a lot about because we quarterbacks are
18:43
Speaker 1: like the movie stars of this whole reality television. Show
18:47
Speaker 1: and all of a, sudden this, Guy mike, McDonald it's, like,
18:49
Speaker 1: well was he like a college Football, no he didn't
18:50
Speaker 1: play A. Georgia he was like coaching high school and
18:53
Speaker 1: he became A ga For Mark richt and then he
18:55
Speaker 1: just shot up like a rocket, ship got an internship
18:58
Speaker 1: With Baltimore ravens and never look. Back And John harbaugh
19:02
Speaker 1: took that guy on a ride to the moon and
19:05
Speaker 1: put him in a position and he kicked everyone's. Ass
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Speaker 1: and now two years later as a head, coach he's
19:11
Speaker 1: putting together these game plans again Besides, stafford no one
19:15
Speaker 1: can touch this. Guy he is Dominating Kyle. Shanahan he
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Speaker 1: has owned. Him going back To. Baltimore he Took josh
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Speaker 1: McDaniels And Drake may made it look, like you, know
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Speaker 1: like when you anyone that follows or watches high school,
19:31
Speaker 1: football guess happens in college sometimes. Too when it's Like
19:33
Speaker 1: Ohio state's Playing rutgers and you look up at like
19:37
Speaker 1: the ticker and it's like thirty to, nothing and at
19:38
Speaker 1: halftime you're, like that game is probably not even that.
19:40
Speaker 1: Close it doesn't happen that often in THE. Nfl and
19:44
Speaker 1: that's what it felt like tonight from a, schematic a physical,
19:47
Speaker 1: standpoint from a game plan, standpoint, like it's not even
19:50
Speaker 1: fair and we could, nitpick like you know where they
19:54
Speaker 1: trying to Drop drake may back and throw. Back that's
19:56
Speaker 1: kind of their. Offense they more from what they were With,
20:01
Speaker 1: tom which this is gonna sound. Like i'm, like this
20:05
Speaker 1: isn't supposed to be a like more of a dink
20:07
Speaker 1: and Dunk tom and dink And dunky to. Death throw
20:11
Speaker 1: to the tight ends, obviously throw to the backs. Constantly
20:14
Speaker 1: you just get rid of the, ball get it out
20:15
Speaker 1: of his. Hand this is like Led drake kind of drop,
20:18
Speaker 1: back make scramble, around throw some. BOMPS i, mean he
20:21
Speaker 1: throws a great deep. Ball that's not gonna work when
20:23
Speaker 1: you couldn't block these. Guys AND i got a, newsflash
20:26
Speaker 1: you can't really block these guys because it feels like
20:28
Speaker 1: all their defensive linemen are sweet and if their dbs
20:32
Speaker 1: see any daylight on a. Blitz it's a rap because
20:36
Speaker 1: they're going like ninety miles an. HOUR i, Mean witherspoon
20:38
Speaker 1: To night looked like he was Ed reed in his.
20:40
Speaker 1: Prime Ronnie, Lott Troy. PAULAMLU i, mean the way he's
20:45
Speaker 1: avoiding guards and tackles and just chasing his ass down
20:50
Speaker 1: was incredible to. Watch and it gets back To mike
20:53
Speaker 1: and how good he is with these. Dbs it's like
20:55
Speaker 1: that a couple of years ago when he was in
20:57
Speaker 1: with The ravens With Kyle hamilton and kind of that whole.
21:00
Speaker 1: Unit they were the number one defense in the. League
21:02
Speaker 1: they were an unstoppable. Unit it's like they had THE
21:05
Speaker 1: mvp at. Quarterback they had the number one. Defense is
21:07
Speaker 1: why guys like me putting five thousand dollars on them
21:10
Speaker 1: to beat The chiefs and then they. Didn't but it
21:13
Speaker 1: wasn't his. Fault if you can go, back the final
21:15
Speaker 1: score that game was seventeen to. Ten he left seventeen.
21:19
Speaker 1: Points in AN afc championsh, game you allowed seventeen, points
21:21
Speaker 1: teams have a pretty good chance to, win and tonight
21:24
Speaker 1: they scored.
21:25
Speaker 2: Thirteen, yeah it's kind of fake. Thirteen LIKE i, MEAN
21:29
Speaker 2: i WAS i mean they scored thirteen in the fourth.
21:32
Speaker 1: Quarter so it's that game felt LIKE i, mean at
21:37
Speaker 1: one point in time THAT i was a. SCORE i
21:41
Speaker 1: mean it was nineteen. Nothing it was nineteen nothing in
21:44
Speaker 1: the fourth, quarter and it didn't even feel that. Close
21:47
Speaker 1: part of it Is, meyers the field goal kicker For,
21:49
Speaker 1: seattle doesn't. Miss but Now seattle's a. Champion, Uh LIKE i,
21:54
Speaker 1: MENTIONED i mean there's only two other guys in THE.
21:56
Speaker 1: NFL i Told colin, This Howie roseman not knew some
22:00
Speaker 1: have won multiple rings with two different coaches and two different.
22:04
Speaker 2: Quarterbacks that's really hard to.
22:05
Speaker 1: Do that's really really difficult to do because you have
22:09
Speaker 1: to rehaul the. Organization you got the personnel, standpoint from
22:13
Speaker 1: a coaching standpoint like, that that's a major, channel and
22:16
Speaker 1: that's that speaks to an organization, mindset philosophical from the top.
22:21
Speaker 1: Down AND i just Think, SEATTLE i have so much
22:25
Speaker 1: respect for the way they've. Operated going back to The
22:28
Speaker 1: Richard sherman. TEAMS i remember seeing those teams in person
22:32
Speaker 1: WHEN i WHEN i used to live in The Bay
22:33
Speaker 1: area and there was a period Post Jim harbaugh where
22:37
Speaker 1: they went To Tom sula And Chip, kelly those games
22:41
Speaker 1: were really really ugly in the sense That seattle used
22:45
Speaker 1: to murder the forty nine. Ers Russell wilson owned, them
22:49
Speaker 1: and the physical they used to just it wasn't a
22:52
Speaker 1: safe environment forty nine er. Players they would get. Killed
22:55
Speaker 1: and that's how it kind of feels with This seattle.
22:57
Speaker 1: Team if you're not fully healthy and you don't have
23:00
Speaker 1: like A hall Of fame level quarterback playing at a
23:02
Speaker 1: high level and some sweet wide, receivers these guys will murder.
23:05
Speaker 1: You and that's what it felt like happened the night
23:08
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23:12
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23:15
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23:19
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23:22
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23:26
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23:29
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23:33
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23:35
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23:36
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23:37
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23:41
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23:46
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23:48
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23:51
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26:11
Speaker 1: he's just the Next Josh, Allen, like, okay let's just
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Speaker 1: as he plays better. Team he's a really good. Player
26:16
Speaker 1: he's got a ton of. Talent long way to, go young,
26:19
Speaker 1: guy high. Ceiling but like it's it's hard to become
26:23
Speaker 1: a superstar when you talk About mahomes Or josh or
26:27
Speaker 1: Lamar let, alone The, brady's The, mannings The Drew, breeses That.
26:31
Speaker 1: Rogers these guys do it for again decades, straight fifteen years,
26:36
Speaker 1: straight In brady's, case twenty years. Straight it's. HARD a
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26:43
Speaker 1: there have been some one or two Time All. Stars
26:45
Speaker 1: there aren't that many guys, that, like for a decade,
26:47
Speaker 1: STRAIGHT i was the second best center in the. League you,
26:50
Speaker 1: know it's really really difficult to be an elite player
26:54
Speaker 1: year in year. Out everyone's gunning for. You and this
26:59
Speaker 1: was a humbling moment for him because he got punked
27:03
Speaker 1: tonight By mike in that. DEFENSE i mean. PUNKED i
27:07
Speaker 1: was gonna guess he threw for one hundred and thirty.
27:09
Speaker 1: Yards he threw two hundred and ninety five, yards two
27:14
Speaker 1: hundred ninety five. YARDS i kind of stop paying attention
27:16
Speaker 1: to the last five. Minutes they gotta be some hall
27:18
Speaker 1: of fucking yards in those last couple of drives two
27:19
Speaker 1: hundred ninety five. Yards his stat line does not Reflect
27:23
Speaker 1: wie twenty seven to forty three for two hundred ninety five,
27:25
Speaker 1: yards sacks six, times not all his. FAULT i mean
27:29
Speaker 1: his left tackle is not a left. Tackle it's just
27:32
Speaker 1: not a left tackle right. There there are certain things
27:36
Speaker 1: you could get away with in, sports, right like uh,
27:41
Speaker 1: Like draymond's a good, example not this, version but like
27:44
Speaker 1: in his, heyday he's like sixty five sixty. Six draymond's
27:47
Speaker 1: not very, tall but he's got elite, instincts he's got
27:50
Speaker 1: long ass, arms and he's fucking very. Physical so historically
27:55
Speaker 1: he's been able to play defense against guys that just
27:58
Speaker 1: from a height, standpoint does it make that much. Sense
28:01
Speaker 1: but when he gets the right guy who is big
28:04
Speaker 1: and is also tough and really, skilled there's not Much
28:06
Speaker 1: draymond can do right And pitcher, right if you do
28:11
Speaker 1: not throw a great, fastball but you throw off, speed
28:14
Speaker 1: you gotta be locate at an elite. Level if your
28:18
Speaker 1: location and you, can't you, know throw the ball right
28:20
Speaker 1: where you want to throw, it you're gonna give up some.
28:22
Speaker 1: Bombs well as an offensive, lineman as a left, tackle
28:27
Speaker 1: WHEN i have short arms which the combines right around
28:30
Speaker 1: the corner and you know our operation might be. There
28:35
Speaker 1: people always, forgot like why do we care so much
28:37
Speaker 1: about hand? SIZE i don't know what kind of. Matters
28:40
Speaker 1: have you ever been into driving? Rainstorm trying to hold
28:43
Speaker 1: the football While Will anderson Or Miles garrett is chasing?
28:47
Speaker 1: You like being able to grip the. Ball Remember Michael
28:50
Speaker 1: jordan when he used to palm the ball and put
28:51
Speaker 1: a like it kind of, helps you. Know AND i
28:55
Speaker 1: just think you Watch Will campbell seems like a great.
28:57
Speaker 1: GUY I will my cousin played With Logan mankins At Fresno.
29:02
Speaker 1: State by the TIME i got To, Fresno logan was
29:04
Speaker 1: already in The. Patriots But logan was a Great All
29:09
Speaker 1: Mountain west Or whack whatever the conference was at the
29:11
Speaker 1: time left tackle in THE. Nfl when The patriots drafted,
29:15
Speaker 1: him they moved him to. Guard, now in, fairness it's
29:17
Speaker 1: not like The patriots have other options to put it left.
29:20
Speaker 1: Tackle BUT i think we all have to. Agree when
29:22
Speaker 1: you watch just good tackles in THE. Nfl he is
29:26
Speaker 1: not going to be one of. Them it's not going
29:29
Speaker 1: to work your functional. Strength i'm not talking about like
29:33
Speaker 1: how much you bench. Press like let's say he benches
29:35
Speaker 1: three fifty and in five years he'll be able to
29:37
Speaker 1: bench four to twenty five or whatever he, squats that
29:40
Speaker 1: number will go up twenty five percent over the course
29:42
Speaker 1: of his. CAREER i was taught your functional, strength meaning
29:46
Speaker 1: when you run into me as an offensive. Lineman the
29:49
Speaker 1: strength THAT i can show, you really in, college but
29:51
Speaker 1: definitely early on in my career never. Changes your. Strength
29:55
Speaker 1: the weight room can, change but your functional strength on
29:58
Speaker 1: the field stays the. Same when it comes to kind
30:02
Speaker 1: of holding the point against a defensive, lineman anchoring down
30:07
Speaker 1: and just stoning them and physically he is completely outmanned
30:12
Speaker 1: in THE, nfl and you'd be, like, wow he played
30:14
Speaker 1: in THE sec. PLAY i get. It he's, smart he tries.
30:17
Speaker 1: Hard but there is certain. Positions if you're a man
30:22
Speaker 1: demand corner and you're, slow you got no.
30:24
Speaker 2: Shot all these.
30:26
Speaker 1: Wide receivers can. Run if you are a left tackle
30:29
Speaker 1: or a right tackle and you are not strong from
30:32
Speaker 1: a functional, standpoint these guys are gonna run through. You
30:36
Speaker 1: because the one thing you would. Say in THE nfl
30:38
Speaker 1: over the course of the last however many, years six,
30:40
Speaker 1: seven the amount of defensive linemen who can play that
30:43
Speaker 1: have come into the league is pretty. Crazy and a
30:47
Speaker 1: lot of these guys are very. Versatile you can line
30:49
Speaker 1: them up really over over the. Center you can put
30:51
Speaker 1: the guy over the. Tackle Aaron donald used to line
30:54
Speaker 1: up when he played the forty Nine. Ers their right tackle,
30:55
Speaker 1: suck they put him over the right, tackle or if
30:57
Speaker 1: their left tackle is, injured it wouldn't. MATTER i can
31:00
Speaker 1: Put Jalen carter at a nine, TECHNIQUE i mean he's
31:04
Speaker 1: facing like over the tight, end OR i can put
31:07
Speaker 1: him over the. CENTER a lot of the versatility in
31:09
Speaker 1: all these players is you, know pretty it's just very
31:16
Speaker 1: versatile players in THE nfl on the defensive. Line and
31:20
Speaker 1: you Watch Will, campbell he felt completely, overwhelmed which again
31:24
Speaker 1: it's not his. Fault he's playing out a, position SO
31:27
Speaker 1: i think you're gonna have to move him into guard
31:29
Speaker 1: and try.
31:30
Speaker 2: To figure that.
31:30
Speaker 1: Out and let's face, it, Like i'm not trying to
31:33
Speaker 1: be A Debbie downer BECAUSE i, ALWAYS i honestly feel
31:36
Speaker 1: LIKE i Defend. BELICHICK i, Mean coward's like saying that
31:40
Speaker 1: he doesn't even belong in The hall Of fame or
31:42
Speaker 1: it's not that big a. DEAL i think that's. Insane
31:44
Speaker 1: but the one thing you say For bill And tom
31:47
Speaker 1: and The Bill belichick, operation when they got to The Super,
31:49
Speaker 1: bowl they never got their ask. Kicked they, Lost they
31:53
Speaker 1: lost Some eli manning a couple of times in some
31:55
Speaker 1: batshit crazy. Games they lost to The eagles when they
31:58
Speaker 1: Ran Philly special And tom through for five hundred yards
32:02
Speaker 1: and for whatever, reason building Play Malcolm. Butler but they
32:05
Speaker 1: didn't get that because that was a. Beatdown that wasn't ass.
32:10
Speaker 1: Kicking and The patriots got a long way to go
32:13
Speaker 1: because THE, afc like Mahomes Lamar, josh like they're gonna
32:18
Speaker 1: factor into. This and you didn't have to play any
32:19
Speaker 1: of those. Guys got to Play, stidham you got to
32:22
Speaker 1: play whatever the hell was going on WITH. Cj. Stroud
32:25
Speaker 1: AND i am A herbert, defender but as his playoff
32:28
Speaker 1: resume right now. Sucks So i'm not trying to diminish
32:32
Speaker 1: they made The Super. Bowl i'm not, trying but you
32:34
Speaker 1: get that's what you. SHOW i just it's hard for
32:38
Speaker 1: me to take you. Seriously you get your brakes blown
32:41
Speaker 1: off By Sam darnold And. SEATTLE i mean they killed.
32:45
Speaker 1: You it was nine to nothing and the gap felt
32:47
Speaker 1: like wider than The Grand. Canyon so props To. Seattle
32:52
Speaker 1: congratulations Super bowl. Champions kind of a crazy, season it really.
32:57
Speaker 2: Was you, KNOW.
32:59
Speaker 1: I think we'll get some more stability next year where
33:05
Speaker 1: Because seattle now will just be taken very. Seriously SO
33:09
Speaker 1: i think, they in a weird, way kind of came
33:10
Speaker 1: out of. Nowhere New england kind of came out of.
33:13
Speaker 2: NOWHERE i think both of them are clearly here to.
33:14
Speaker 2: Stay The chiefs will be.
33:16
Speaker 1: Back and you, know the bad teams are gonna stay
33:20
Speaker 1: bad and the good teams are gonna say The dolphins
33:23
Speaker 1: are gonna be bad next. Year you, know The cardinals
33:26
Speaker 1: are gonna be bad next. Year The titans are gonna
33:28
Speaker 1: be bad next. Year The jets are gonna. Stink The
33:32
Speaker 1: Atlanta falcons aren't gonna be good next. YEAR a lot
33:35
Speaker 1: of these teams are gonna stay. Bad so maybe you
33:38
Speaker 1: get hardball turns them around a little, bit but we
33:41
Speaker 1: still got some question marks.
33:42
Speaker 2: With the young quarterback.
33:43
Speaker 1: THERE i think we're gonna see the similar same cast
33:47
Speaker 1: of characters next, year And seattle is gonna come in
33:50
Speaker 1: as clearly one of the heavy favorites to you know
33:53
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35:05
Speaker 1: stuff that happened before The Super bowl in THE uh
35:09
Speaker 1: in the football world and THE nfl HONORS i think
35:14
Speaker 1: was On thursday night and we found out That Matt
35:17
Speaker 1: stafford won THE, mvp was The Most Valuable player of THE.
35:22
Speaker 1: Nfl AND i think anytime we talk a lot about
35:27
Speaker 1: this with young, quarterbacks guys that go to places that
35:32
Speaker 1: are just. Bad and you, Know kevin O'Connell ironically set
35:36
Speaker 1: this a couple of years ago that organizations let down
35:39
Speaker 1: quarterbacks more than quarterbacks let down. Organizations now we'll see
35:44
Speaker 1: what THE jj McCarthy. Situation that might not EVEN i,
35:47
Speaker 1: mean some guys aren't good, enough, Right But Matt, stafford
35:50
Speaker 1: who was the number one overall, pick who everyone in
35:53
Speaker 1: the league, said this guy can really, play was part
35:56
Speaker 1: of one of the worst run organizations in the. LEAGUE
35:59
Speaker 1: i mean they were really bad for really most of
36:02
Speaker 1: my life and definitely The internet, age right Post Barry
36:05
Speaker 1: sanders and even When barry was. THERE i, mean they're
36:07
Speaker 1: two best players of all time retired to thirty years, old,
36:10
Speaker 1: Right barry just. Quit, now, Granted Calvin johnson had, injuries
36:14
Speaker 1: but he's like this ain't worth it and just. Left
36:17
Speaker 1: and sometimes you get a guy Like Peyton manning who's been,
36:20
Speaker 1: injured right Or brady who's really really, Old Aaron rodgers
36:25
Speaker 1: kind of same. Thing they were just kind of ready
36:27
Speaker 1: to move, on did go to a new. Place And,
36:29
Speaker 1: rogers you, know post packer career obviously did not go
36:32
Speaker 1: well Post. ACHILLES i guess he was pretty impressive year In,
36:36
Speaker 1: pittsburgh right from a just respect, standpoint like playing through
36:39
Speaker 1: a broken bone in his left, hand but most people
36:42
Speaker 1: thought like Could Peyton manning still play with the messed up?
36:45
Speaker 1: Neck then he wins THE. Mvp leeds his, team you,
36:48
Speaker 1: know was major key to one of Their Super. Bowls
36:51
Speaker 1: they didn't win, it but he got. There his last
36:54
Speaker 1: year they won The Super. Bowl though he wasn't as
36:56
Speaker 1: good of a, player but it kind of validated, like, hey,
36:58
Speaker 1: GUYS i can still. Play same thing With tom went
37:01
Speaker 1: When bill moved, on like kind of won the, argument
37:04
Speaker 1: like you should have kept. Me the thing Was. Stafford
37:06
Speaker 1: it was like this thing is just run its. Course
37:08
Speaker 1: give him a new. Place and it was between two.
37:11
Speaker 1: Places sean McVay And Kyle shanahan And sean, McVay they
37:14
Speaker 1: Had Jared. Goff they were offering the same. Trade one
37:17
Speaker 1: just Included Jared goff and the other Include Jimmy. Garoppolo news,
37:21
Speaker 1: flash The Detroit lions made the right decision to go
37:24
Speaker 1: With Jared. Goff BUT i Thought Matt stafford was an
37:28
Speaker 1: under five hundred quarterback who most people would have said really.
37:32
Speaker 1: Talented but is he that? Good and, listen you look
37:34
Speaker 1: at the, numbers you look at the wins and, losses
37:37
Speaker 1: and you can tell me winning and losing isn't a
37:39
Speaker 1: quarterback Stat, like if you're a really good, player gonna
37:41
Speaker 1: win a lot of, games unless you're at a place Like.
37:44
Speaker 1: Detroit and by no means he was. Perfect but in
37:47
Speaker 1: his five years with The La, rams he's a Super bowl,
37:51
Speaker 1: Champion he's won AN. Mvp his record as a starter
37:55
Speaker 1: is forty six and twenty. EIGHT i mean this year
37:58
Speaker 1: he threw forty six touchdowns night. Interceptions he was just.
38:02
Speaker 1: Dominant and Like brady, said AND i Think manning has
38:05
Speaker 1: said this, too by the, end the game is kind
38:07
Speaker 1: of easy because your mind is as good as it's ever.
38:12
Speaker 1: Been and when you play the quarterback, position you know
38:15
Speaker 1: your advantage upstairs is a, huge huge. Advantage the longer you,
38:20
Speaker 1: play the more experiences you've, had you've seen. Everything So
38:24
Speaker 1: stafford now physically his arms still, good but he used
38:27
Speaker 1: to be a pretty good. Athlete he can't move around at,
38:29
Speaker 1: all but his ability to manipulate and dominate from an
38:33
Speaker 1: intellectual standpoint when it comes to football is a plus
38:37
Speaker 1: at this. Point and he announces that he's coming, back
38:39
Speaker 1: which is huge for The rams because they don't really
38:41
Speaker 1: have any sort of replacement on. Hand they're kind of
38:45
Speaker 1: desperate in a weird way for him to come, back
38:47
Speaker 1: BECAUSE i don't really see their options unless they kind
38:50
Speaker 1: of strike oil in the in the mid rounds with
38:53
Speaker 1: some random. Quarterback BUT i think The stafford resurrection and
38:58
Speaker 1: kind of validation is just really really. Cool and whether
39:02
Speaker 1: he gets The hall Of fame or, not LIKE i
39:04
Speaker 1: personally think he's A hall Of fame level player now
39:07
Speaker 1: Once belichick doesn't go, in who fucking, knows you. Know
39:10
Speaker 1: Tony dungee's on the pregame show refusing to say if
39:14
Speaker 1: he voted or, Not, Like, tony we get, it you
39:16
Speaker 1: didn't vote for, Him, like just just admit. It you
39:18
Speaker 1: don't need to lie here all the elephant in the.
39:20
Speaker 1: Room we all know the. Truth you don't need, to you,
39:23
Speaker 1: know hide from. This we get. It, bro you hate,
39:26
Speaker 1: Him your career as a coach would have been a
39:29
Speaker 1: lot better if you Think bill who was? Cheating you
39:33
Speaker 1: think you know most people in football go everyone will seeing.
39:36
Speaker 1: Signs but regardless Once bill doesn't get it on a
39:41
Speaker 1: yearly based, side have no. Clue unless your name's Like Tom,
39:44
Speaker 1: brady it's just coin. Flip but to, me The STAFFORD,
39:48
Speaker 1: MVP i thought he earned. IT i thought he deserved
39:51
Speaker 1: it and really kind of stamped his career as like
39:55
Speaker 1: it was The.
39:56
Speaker 2: Lions it wasn't.
39:56
Speaker 1: Me, guys look at me With. Sean i'm a, Winner
40:00
Speaker 1: i'm a, Champion i'm AN, mvp And i'm a stone
40:03
Speaker 1: cold ass kicker BECAUSE i definitely didn't lose that game
40:05
Speaker 1: up In seattle defense. Coverage that's on, you, Guys Chris,
40:09
Speaker 1: Jula come, on.
40:10
Speaker 2: Guys we need to be a little.
40:12
Speaker 1: BETTER i did my, Job so congrats To Matt. Stafford
40:16
Speaker 1: The hall Of fame CLASS i thought was really really.
40:18
Speaker 2: Good you, know.
40:19
Speaker 1: Sometimes there are some guys that go in you're, LIKE
40:23
Speaker 1: i don't, KNOW i, mean there have been some Guys
40:26
Speaker 1: i've always, said, like to, me The hall Of fame
40:28
Speaker 1: should be you shouldn't even have to, think, right just
40:31
Speaker 1: say a, Name Deon Sanders hall Of, Famer Joe Montana
40:34
Speaker 1: hall Of, Famer, Right Lawrence, Taylor Jerry, rice like It's Tom,
40:39
Speaker 1: Brady Peyton. Manning it should be very black and. White
40:42
Speaker 1: if we got to go to a room and debate,
40:44
Speaker 1: you you're probably in The hall of really good and
40:46
Speaker 1: there's nothing wrong with. That and now if you're in the,
40:48
Speaker 1: hall like what If Matt stafford doesn't go, in you
40:50
Speaker 1: know what he'll. Say i'm a, Champion i'm AN, mvp
40:52
Speaker 1: AND i made four h and fifty million dollars playing.
40:54
Speaker 1: FOOTBALL i, won, Right So i'm not getting caught up
40:59
Speaker 1: on this objective nature now of The hall Of. Fame
41:02
Speaker 1: but this class to me felt like these are no.
41:05
Speaker 1: BRAINERS i, mean Obviously Drew, brees who set records for
41:08
Speaker 1: years in The superdome With Sean, payton who helped resurrect
41:13
Speaker 1: like The, lions a joke. FRANCHISE i, mean their nickname
41:17
Speaker 1: was The, aints and they were one of the key
41:20
Speaker 1: franchises over the course of his. Run obviously the year
41:23
Speaker 1: that they won The Super bowl but just countless big playoff,
41:26
Speaker 1: games they just really really. Mattered and, like, listen is
41:32
Speaker 1: it easier to play in a? Dome of, course Is
41:35
Speaker 1: Drew brees the most talented player to ever lace him
41:38
Speaker 1: up in THE? Nfl? No but is he everything you
41:41
Speaker 1: want in a franchise quarterback in terms of, production, durability,
41:46
Speaker 1: leadership give a shit? Factor like to me that one
41:50
Speaker 1: you even need to get up and start listening out of.
41:52
Speaker 1: Stats keithley is a guy that to, me there's like
41:56
Speaker 1: A Terrell davis component to. Him it's like he was
42:01
Speaker 1: clearly one of the best players in the, league and
42:04
Speaker 1: when he was, young it was pretty obvious he was
42:06
Speaker 1: going to go down as one of the greatest defensive
42:09
Speaker 1: players to ever. Play like it was evident immediately and
42:13
Speaker 1: in the peak of his. Powers he's as good of
42:16
Speaker 1: a linebacker in my, lifetime not named Like Ray lewis
42:20
Speaker 1: as you will ever. Find but he started getting, concussions
42:23
Speaker 1: and he started getting, injured and he just couldn't stay
42:25
Speaker 1: on the. Field but, LIKE i don't think anyone with
42:28
Speaker 1: a brain would argue That Luke keikley isn't one of
42:33
Speaker 1: the most talented and dominant football. Players when he was
42:36
Speaker 1: on the field that has ever left and definitely of his,
42:40
Speaker 1: Generation so to, me no issues with that. One and
42:43
Speaker 1: THEN i Think Larry fitzgerald kind kind of almost symbolizes
42:48
Speaker 1: everything that it is to be A hall Of. Famer
42:50
Speaker 1: he's honestly everything you would want in a top. Pick
42:54
Speaker 1: like when you draft a, guy especially a non, quarterback, second, third,
42:58
Speaker 1: fourth like really really, high you're looking to get a
43:01
Speaker 1: Cornerstone hall Of fame level. PLAYER i mean that's best,
43:05
Speaker 1: case but you're just looking to get a guy that's
43:07
Speaker 1: gonna be In Pro bowls and be a guy that's
43:09
Speaker 1: giving multiple contracts for your franchise and basically check every.
43:13
Speaker 1: Box and he did. Right obviously an elite, talent a,
43:17
Speaker 1: dominant dominant, player a durable. Player go to His wikipedia,
43:22
Speaker 1: Page look how many games he. Missed he didn't miss that.
43:24
Speaker 1: Many here's the other. Thing he was an all in.
43:28
Speaker 1: Guy his character is. Pristine he did not play for
43:31
Speaker 1: The Green Bay. Packers The Pittsburgh steelers kind of played
43:34
Speaker 1: for a joke organization that for a lot of it
43:36
Speaker 1: had a quarterback disastrous. Situation he wasn't exactly playing With
43:41
Speaker 1: montana And brady never said, anything kept his bouth shut
43:45
Speaker 1: and just grind. It but here's the other thing THAT
43:47
Speaker 1: i respect most About Larry, Fitzgerald AND i would say
43:50
Speaker 1: this about any. Athlete when the lights are the brightest
43:53
Speaker 1: and the games are the, biggest do you play your?
43:56
Speaker 1: Best and you could make the argument That Larry fitzgerald
44:00
Speaker 1: is one of the greatest, playoff big game performances or
44:04
Speaker 1: performers THE nfl has ever. Seen he was elite in big.
44:09
Speaker 1: Games and he also showed like through the course of
44:12
Speaker 1: his career as his speed diminished a little bit once
44:15
Speaker 1: arians got there With Carson palmer's, like, Yeah i'll move
44:17
Speaker 1: to slot. Receiver what do you need me to do to?
44:19
Speaker 1: Win WHEN i Think Larry, FITZGERALD i just think. WINNER
44:24
Speaker 1: i think a guy that everyone who's ever coached or
44:28
Speaker 1: ran a franchise would, GO i want to be in
44:30
Speaker 1: the trenches with that. Guy he, is to, me personifies
44:36
Speaker 1: what it means to be A hall Of. Famer and you,
44:38
Speaker 1: know there's a loyalty element that he had that maybe
44:44
Speaker 1: in this world that we live in now in the twenty,
44:46
Speaker 1: twenties would a guy like that play his whole career
44:49
Speaker 1: for a franchise like The. Cardinals probably. NOT i mean
44:52
Speaker 1: we're kind of seeing it With Max. Crosby i'm not
44:55
Speaker 1: saying they're apples to apples, comparisons but you, know imagine
44:58
Speaker 1: If larry would have got like three or four good
45:01
Speaker 1: years with a top six or seven quarterback in THE.
45:04
Speaker 1: Nfl he had moments With carson when he was, older
45:07
Speaker 1: and the one year with Kurtin, warner but for the most,
45:10
Speaker 1: part he play just in situations that aren't exactly conducive
45:15
Speaker 1: to dominating at that. Position because wide, receiver more than
45:19
Speaker 1: any other, position is by far the most.
45:21
Speaker 2: Dependent.
45:22
Speaker 1: Right you need the guy to throw you the, ball
45:24
Speaker 1: you need the person on the sideline to call the,
45:26
Speaker 1: place you need the five guys blocking for the quarterback
45:29
Speaker 1: to hold. UP i, mean you need all this stuff
45:32
Speaker 1: that's out of your. Control and the one thing you
45:34
Speaker 1: always felt like when you threw it To larry he
45:36
Speaker 1: was going to catch the. Ball you could make the,
45:38
Speaker 1: argument you, KNOW i think most people consider the top
45:41
Speaker 1: three wide receivers of all time in terms of just
45:44
Speaker 1: talent production everything to Be Jerry, Rice Randy, Bossin Turell.
45:48
Speaker 1: Owens you, KNOW i Think Larry fitzgerald is much closer
45:52
Speaker 1: to that than like the second and third group of
45:55
Speaker 1: guys that we consider Like hall of. Famers to, me
45:58
Speaker 1: he is just a certified. Badass and when you draft,
46:02
Speaker 1: high and some teams are this year that aren't going
46:03
Speaker 1: to be drafting, quarterbacks you you're praying to get A
46:08
Speaker 1: Larry fitzgerald type because you, know you build franchises around
46:12
Speaker 1: guys like, this and The Cardinal cardinals literally did. Right
46:16
Speaker 1: he was the poster child of their franchise for you,
46:20
Speaker 1: know ALMOST i think well over fifteen years so and
46:24
Speaker 1: FAMOUSLY i think Didn't Lane Kiffen wanham and they ended
46:28
Speaker 1: up TAKING i guess he Wanted calvin JOHN i got
46:31
Speaker 1: it Was Calvin Johnson JaMarcus. Russell So larry was a
46:34
Speaker 1: draft or two. BEFORE a couple other news and notes
46:37
Speaker 1: from this. Weekend schefter put out this morning that a
46:41
Speaker 1: couple of quarterback situations that their teams are ready to
46:46
Speaker 1: trade these, guys and that would Be Tua TONGA I
46:50
Speaker 1: loa And Kyler. Murray here's the problem and anyone that,
46:54
Speaker 1: follows like THE nba trade, DEADLINE i think there are some.
46:58
Speaker 1: Parallels there were some play in THE, nba Like Anthony
47:02
Speaker 1: davis gonna be A hall Of famer one, Day Trey
47:04
Speaker 1: young who's you, know a relatively famous player in THE
47:07
Speaker 1: nba were traded for nothing that they Had John. Morant
47:11
Speaker 1: memphis couldn't give him. AWAY i think there's an element
47:15
Speaker 1: with these two. GUYS i think The Miami dolphins are completely.
47:18
Speaker 1: Screwed schefter put in his report that they're willing to
47:22
Speaker 1: buy down some of the. Salary here's the problem for The.
47:25
Speaker 1: Dolphins if they cut, him it's kind of like A Russell.
47:28
Speaker 2: Wilson they would.
47:28
Speaker 1: Eat ninety nine million dollars in dead cap. Space so
47:32
Speaker 1: ideally you don't want to do. THAT i don't think
47:35
Speaker 1: you could give him.
47:36
Speaker 2: AWAY i really.
47:37
Speaker 1: DON'T i, MEAN i do not think you could give
47:40
Speaker 1: two away if you ate the money so much that
47:42
Speaker 1: the other team only had to pay four or five million.
47:44
Speaker 1: DOLLARS i think the only way someone would sign to
47:47
Speaker 1: a would basically be for a veteran minimum. Deal and
47:51
Speaker 1: let's face, it it's not LIKE i respect. Him after
47:54
Speaker 1: that big hit that he took In, Buffalo he's never
47:56
Speaker 1: been the. Same and this year the player was simply.
48:00
Speaker 1: Rocious he really. Was and then there's the, factor even
48:03
Speaker 1: before the, concussions he could never play in inclement. Weather
48:06
Speaker 1: so you look at some of these, teams you, know The,
48:08
Speaker 1: browns The, jets some of these, teams they're gonna be
48:11
Speaker 1: sniffing around for quarterbacks like he doesn't fit. Them so
48:15
Speaker 1: my guess is it would not shock me at all
48:18
Speaker 1: if The dolphins kind of take a big picture of
48:21
Speaker 1: view and just nuke this bad boy and kind of
48:23
Speaker 1: Pull Sean payton and just cut him and eat the,
48:26
Speaker 1: money BECAUSE i don't think he's.
48:27
Speaker 2: Tradable.
48:28
Speaker 1: Now Kyler murray is to me a little more tradable
48:31
Speaker 1: because he's more physically. Gifted right, now he's o thirty
48:35
Speaker 1: six point eight million dollars this, year and Unlike, tua
48:38
Speaker 1: it's not quite as. High but if they were to
48:40
Speaker 1: cut him same type, thing it's like fifty five million
48:42
Speaker 1: dollars in dead. MONEY i do think that they could
48:45
Speaker 1: eat a large substantial portion of a salary and get
48:49
Speaker 1: him to somewhere like around ten million dollars and someone
48:53
Speaker 1: might give, you like a like The Cleveland, Browns i'll
48:55
Speaker 1: give you a six round pick for this. Guy Todd
48:58
Speaker 1: munkin just played With lamar ja, Right so there are
49:02
Speaker 1: Some Obviously kyler is nowhere near as good As Lamar,
49:05
Speaker 1: jackson but some similarities in terms of his. Mobility he's
49:08
Speaker 1: got a big. Arm, AGAIN i gotta get on the.
49:11
Speaker 1: CHEAP i gotta buy as like a distressed asset, here
49:15
Speaker 1: and to, Me kyler would have more value just because
49:18
Speaker 1: he's more physically. Gifted BUT i think both guys would
49:21
Speaker 1: be viewed as pretty major liabilities based on their. MONEY
49:26
Speaker 1: i think they're gonna have to get very. CREATIVE i
49:28
Speaker 1: think there is a chance that maybe you could find
49:30
Speaker 1: a TEAM i attached like a third round, pick WHICH
49:33
Speaker 1: i think legally you're not supposed to do because that's
49:36
Speaker 1: like the equivalent of teams buying a. Player remember, THAT
49:39
Speaker 1: i think the was It The browns did it to
49:41
Speaker 1: The texans With austweiler that they took a salary and
49:45
Speaker 1: The texans included a second round. Pick that's allowed in THE.
49:49
Speaker 1: Nba it's it's technically not allowed in THE, nfl though
49:52
Speaker 1: they don't really hold you to those. Standards it's not
49:56
Speaker 1: like there are you're punished if it, happens at least
49:59
Speaker 1: there hasn't been in the. Past BUT i think both
50:01
Speaker 1: those two guys are pretty toxic when you factor in their.
50:05
Speaker 1: Contract Rap sheet reported That Derek, carr who took this
50:09
Speaker 1: year off he had a bum. Shoulder he also didn't
50:12
Speaker 1: want to force like The saints to cut him or
50:15
Speaker 1: put him on injured reserve and basically pay him thirty
50:18
Speaker 1: million to do. Nothing, honestly kind of took the high
50:21
Speaker 1: Road lake that, Like i'm ready to come, BACK i will.
50:24
Speaker 1: Play and the first THING i thought of is Because
50:27
Speaker 1: schefter or rap sheet or one of these guys put
50:29
Speaker 1: out that The niners aren't going to trade Mac. JONES
50:31
Speaker 1: i do think they would trade, him but it'd be
50:33
Speaker 1: like pick. FORTY i don't think any team in the
50:35
Speaker 1: league is like giving you pick forty for Mac. Jones
50:37
Speaker 1: but to the forty Nine, ers Mac jones has way
50:39
Speaker 1: more value than like you just giving them a fourth round,
50:42
Speaker 1: Pick like they are just better off having Mac jones
50:45
Speaker 1: on their, team especially With perdy who just missed a
50:47
Speaker 1: bunch of games this. Year he's a great insurance. Policy
50:51
Speaker 1: so WHEN i View Derek, CARR i Got Minnesota vikings
50:56
Speaker 1: BECAUSE i can't See kevin O'Connell going With. TUA i
51:00
Speaker 1: can't See kevin O'Connell going With Kyler. Murray, Well Derek,
51:03
Speaker 1: carr who has played in different offenses over the course
51:06
Speaker 1: of his, career there are some. Similarities you, know he
51:09
Speaker 1: played For kubiak a couple of years. Ago into the
51:11
Speaker 1: offense That kevin O'Connell, wants he's a little more pass.
51:14
Speaker 1: Heavy but to, me IF i can Get Derek, carr
51:16
Speaker 1: COULD i get him for like one, year five or
51:18
Speaker 1: six million dollars and just have, him you, know play
51:21
Speaker 1: the role of What Sam darnold did a couple of years.
51:23
Speaker 1: Ago but if you did, that LIKE i would BE
51:26
Speaker 1: jj McCarthy couldn't beat beat him, Out and THEN i
51:29
Speaker 1: think we would just have to acknowledge THAT jj McCarthy
51:31
Speaker 1: would go down as one of the bigger whiffs in recent.
51:34
Speaker 1: Memory but to, me WHEN i see The derek's gonna come.
51:36
Speaker 1: Back And derek ACTUALLY i was with him At Fresnel
51:40
Speaker 1: state WHEN i was With. COLIN i think it was
51:43
Speaker 1: In august during training. Camp he was at his house working.
51:47
Speaker 1: Out he said he was watching the. Herd so he's
51:49
Speaker 1: always you, know he's an, optimistic positive. Guy he's got
51:52
Speaker 1: a good, arm he's. ACCURATE i think he's definitely an
51:56
Speaker 1: upgrade OVER jj. McCarthy so to, Me, Minnesota kevin, O'Connell
52:01
Speaker 1: i would keep an eye If derek actually does. Play
52:05
Speaker 1: that one would make a lot of sense to, me
52:07
Speaker 1: because If I'm, DEREK i wouldn't just come back to
52:09
Speaker 1: be like the bridge quarterback for The cardinals or The
52:12
Speaker 1: browns or Anything minnesota in a. DOME i think THAT
52:17
Speaker 1: i can see that one coming from a mile, away
52:19
Speaker 1: and Then i'll end on this. One. Character, guys this
52:24
Speaker 1: happens in THE, nfl right every single year there are
52:28
Speaker 1: guys drafted pretty high that other teams, go are you kidding?
52:32
Speaker 1: Me because that player was off the draft. Board and it.
52:37
Speaker 1: Happens it happens a lot with defensive, linemen running. BACKS i,
52:39
Speaker 1: mean it happens with all, positions but it happens a
52:41
Speaker 1: lot with defensive. Linemen and in, fairness like play defensive,
52:44
Speaker 1: line you gotta be a little, nuts like you're not
52:47
Speaker 1: exactly looking for choir boys. There you gotta be a little.
52:49
Speaker 1: Crazy look at The hall Of, fame a lot of nut.
52:51
Speaker 1: Jobs not Everyone's Reggie white going to church On sunday
52:53
Speaker 1: morning before the. Game so last year when The arizona
52:58
Speaker 1: or The Atlanta falcons traded a first round pick to
53:02
Speaker 1: move up from the second round to pick twenty six
53:04
Speaker 1: to Take James, pearce, ONE i thought it was insane
53:07
Speaker 1: because you never trade a first round pick to get
53:10
Speaker 1: into the. Twenties but there was no Disputing pierce's talent
53:13
Speaker 1: from The university Of. Tennessee most would agree just on
53:16
Speaker 1: talent alone that he would have been a top ten
53:19
Speaker 1: pick in that. Draft but there were red flags around.
53:22
Speaker 1: Him he was off draft. Boards and here's the. Thing
53:25
Speaker 1: when you take guys off draft, boards whether it's for
53:27
Speaker 1: character or whether it's for, medical you might look like an.
53:30
Speaker 1: Idiot sometimes guys character guys completely turn around their. Life
53:34
Speaker 1: you're dealing with human. Beings this is why it's so
53:37
Speaker 1: difficult to. Draft you're not dealing with. Widgets you're not
53:40
Speaker 1: dealing with. iPhones you're not dealing With, Stanley's you're not
53:42
Speaker 1: dealing with you, know studio. Sheds these are. Humans they're
53:46
Speaker 1: all wired. Differently i'm wired differently than. You you're wired
53:50
Speaker 1: differently than the next. Guy we all beat to our
53:52
Speaker 1: own trump and we all mature at different. Rates some
53:56
Speaker 1: of us grow up, fast some of us don't grow
53:59
Speaker 1: up till it's two. Late and when The Atlanta falcons did,
54:02
Speaker 1: that people went that is. Insane one for the value
54:06
Speaker 1: in which they. Did The rams have the thirteenth pick
54:08
Speaker 1: in the draft because of that, trade and two because
54:11
Speaker 1: you're drafting a major wild card and then he plays
54:14
Speaker 1: the season and anyone who watch The, falcons the fucker
54:16
Speaker 1: can play ten and a half sacks easily could have
54:19
Speaker 1: won The rookie of The. Year he is a, powerful
54:23
Speaker 1: FAST i, mean he's a big time. Talent if he
54:26
Speaker 1: had his head on, straight he could be a pro
54:29
Speaker 1: bowler for a long time in THE. Nfl here's the.
54:31
Speaker 1: Problem On saturday, night he was arrested for five different.
54:34
Speaker 1: Felonies i'm not going to go through. Him you could google,
54:37
Speaker 1: him but INVOLVES i don't know if his girlfriend or
54:39
Speaker 1: his ex girlfriend who plays in THE. Wnba it does
54:41
Speaker 1: not look good and there's probably a lot of general
54:44
Speaker 1: managers and a lot of personnel people that their owner
54:47
Speaker 1: looked at him like we really passing this guy and
54:50
Speaker 1: might have taken some shit throughout the course of the,
54:52
Speaker 1: season might have taken some shit when their teams played
54:55
Speaker 1: this guy and he caused havoc off the. Edge promise
55:00
Speaker 1: you last, night when that news, broke there were a
55:02
Speaker 1: lot of people in the league forwarding that information to
55:05
Speaker 1: the either their, owners their, presidents to whoever that. Matters
55:08
Speaker 1: and here's the THING i will always say about guys
55:10
Speaker 1: Like Matt, ryan AND i saw a firsthand With John.
55:13
Speaker 1: Lynch anytime you have made a ton of money playing
55:17
Speaker 1: the sport of, football, basketball you name, it and then
55:20
Speaker 1: you go INTO tv and you're making seven figures and
55:23
Speaker 1: life is good for you to have the desire and
55:28
Speaker 1: the burning itch deep in your soul LIKE i need
55:32
Speaker 1: the wins and. LOSSES i want to get back into the.
55:34
Speaker 1: FIGHT i want to be in the. TRENCHES i respect
55:37
Speaker 1: the shit out of that because you don't need to do.
55:39
Speaker 1: That and that job isn't just like drafting. Players On
55:44
Speaker 1: april twenty, eighth that job is This Matt ryan's probably
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Speaker 1: home last, night maybe watching a movie with his, boys
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Speaker 1: and gets a text that we got a problem.
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Speaker 2: At, well what's the.
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Speaker 1: Problem, well our star young pass rusher just got arrested
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Speaker 1: on five different fill in the accounts and it does
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Speaker 1: not look. Good, now in fairness Of, matt he didn't
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Speaker 1: draft this, Guy Terry, fautino, right morrise that all these
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Speaker 1: guys that were, fired what's his, name The Ryan, pace
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Speaker 1: the Former BEARS gm who's also just, fired they did.
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Speaker 1: This but when you take the, job these are now your.
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Speaker 1: Players this is now your. Problem it's like what do you.
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Speaker 1: Do there's no right or wrong. Answer it's, like if
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Speaker 1: it is, true do you just cut? Him, well THE
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Speaker 1: nfl you're not really teaching life. Lessons and here's the,
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Speaker 1: thing is a Quarterback matt seems some crazy shit as a.
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Speaker 1: Quarterback if you play that, long you've been part of
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Speaker 1: teammates who've gotten in. Trouble it's not your. Problem you
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Speaker 1: might have to answer for it in a press conference
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Speaker 1: in the sense that's you, know a reporter asks you a,
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Speaker 1: question but it's not on you to make the decision of, like,
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Speaker 1: yeah we're gonna cut him or, yeah we're gonna suspend.
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Speaker 1: Him in definitely that all falls on your lap. Now
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Speaker 1: and this is Why Arthur, Blank i'm Sure matt's making
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Speaker 1: five six seven million dollars to do whatever technically his job.
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Speaker 1: Is but he's the grand hoobat now he's the. Boss
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Speaker 1: and in the middle of the night or late on
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Speaker 1: A saturday, night when he's probably just chilling in his
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Speaker 1: big ass, house you, know just getting ready to go
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Speaker 1: to work in a couple of, days not even thinking,
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Speaker 1: anything he gets this and then he's got to get
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Speaker 1: with the pr. Guy they got to put out some
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Speaker 1: kind OF bs statement and they got to deal with this.
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Speaker 1: Problem and this job is, really really hard because that
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Speaker 1: is the. JOB i say this all the time about
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Speaker 1: these head. Coaches being a head coach is so much
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Speaker 1: more about LIKE i got this great play on third and.
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Speaker 1: Seven it's, like, well, yeah what happens when you're a
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Speaker 1: twenty four year old star defensive tackle gets a dui
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Speaker 1: and he blows a two point zero and wraps his
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Speaker 1: car around a telephone pole and has a broken. Leg
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Speaker 1: how do you handle that? Situation how do you handle
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Speaker 1: when your linebacker coach gets cancer and has to leave
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Speaker 1: the team for the year and go to radiation. Treatment
57:51
Speaker 1: how do you handle that like? That that's why this
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Speaker 1: job is so, hard because your entire business is based
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Speaker 1: on human, capital your coaching, staff your, personnel's your, players
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Speaker 1: and these character guys you just never. Know it's why
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Speaker 1: some teams, Go i'm not even gonna risk. IT i
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Speaker 1: don't have the appetite to deal with the wild card
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Speaker 1: that doesn't go either, way because some guys flipping around
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Speaker 1: and become A hall Of famer and some guys have this.
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Speaker 1: Happen NOW i see see some people on the internet,
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Speaker 1: go he'll never play in THE nfl. Again if you
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Speaker 1: guys watched THE, nfl never play in THE nfl. Again
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Speaker 1: he's got ten and a half sacks as a, rookie
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Speaker 1: he will play.
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Speaker 2: In THE nfl.
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Speaker 1: Again So i'm not making any. STATEMENTS i say all
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Speaker 1: the TIME i watch. FOOTBALL i got taught life lessons
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Speaker 1: by my. PARENTS i don't look to celebrities to football
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Speaker 1: coaches to teach to teach me life. Lessons if you're
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Speaker 1: looking at THE nfl to set the tone for, SOCIETY
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Speaker 1: i might need to do some reevaluation. Right SO i
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Speaker 1: don't care one way or the. Other but there's a.
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Speaker 1: Nightmare if You're Matt. Ryan this is a major problem
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Speaker 1: and it's now on you to deal with, it fix,
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Speaker 1: it map a path, forward which is not gonna be,
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Speaker 1: easy because it's. Easy when it happens to a guy
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Speaker 1: that's not any. Good you cut him the next, day
59:08
Speaker 1: you don't give a, shit treat him like a. Widget
59:09
Speaker 1: see you pack your. Shit what do you do when
59:12
Speaker 1: the guy's got ten and a half sacks as a
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Speaker 1: rookie and you, also like you could say it's you,
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Speaker 1: know it's water under the. Bridge it's you, know we
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Speaker 1: already we already paid for. It you did give up
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Speaker 1: a first round pick for this guy for a, REASON i,
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Speaker 1: mean is he is. Talented but there was also a
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Speaker 1: reason he was a pick twenty six because a lot
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Speaker 1: of the teams didn't even have the guy in the draft.
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Speaker 1: Board AND i love this, too like we found, value
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Speaker 1: found this guy way later than he should have. Gone,
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Speaker 1: yeah why is he there just because you get him
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Speaker 1: at pick twenty six or pick forty seven when he
59:40
Speaker 1: could have gone picked. Seven that doesn't change the human. Being,
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Speaker 1: now maybe sometimes a light goes, off but in this
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Speaker 1: day and, AGE i don't, know these guys are already.
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Speaker 1: Rich so it's not like he needed to get this.
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Speaker 1: Money he's probably making seven figures at The universe Of
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Speaker 1: tennessee the year. Before so, YEAH i, mean it's just crazy.
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Speaker 1: Situation god speed To Matt. Ryan the other Thing i'll
1:00:02
Speaker 1: get out of here on This Lindsey, vaughn who tore
1:00:05
Speaker 1: acl in The Olympic, trials was that a couple of weeks,
1:00:10
Speaker 1: ago attempted to race this.
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Speaker 2: Morning in The.
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Speaker 1: Olympics you, know part of the reason the, guy, like
1:00:18
Speaker 1: unlike a Rold ankle or a bad shoulder can like
1:00:21
Speaker 1: play through. It if you don't have AN, acl you
1:00:24
Speaker 1: do not have. Stability AND i retired from skiing in my.
1:00:28
Speaker 1: Twenties Like i'm not tearing AN acl or breaking a
1:00:30
Speaker 1: leg IF i go to the, Mountain i'm just drinking the.
1:00:33
Speaker 1: Bar i'm hanging. OUT i don't play pickup, basketball AND
1:00:36
Speaker 1: i do not ski. ANYMORE i want no part of
1:00:39
Speaker 1: a lower extremity injury Where i'm in a wheelchair on.
1:00:42
Speaker 2: Crutches no thank.
1:00:43
Speaker 1: You AND i grew up loving TO i skied a
1:00:46
Speaker 1: lot WHEN i was probably in junior, high high. School
1:00:48
Speaker 1: haven't really skied much, since but had the opportunity a
1:00:51
Speaker 1: couple of times over the last. Decades like it's no
1:00:53
Speaker 1: interest to, me but like what she, does she's clearly
1:00:57
Speaker 1: an all time great. TALENT i just have no clue
1:01:01
Speaker 1: how you could, have even WHICH i respect the shit
1:01:03
Speaker 1: out of her for. Trying there's gonna be her Last,
1:01:05
Speaker 1: olympics but it's kind of felt inevitable what. Happened because
1:01:10
Speaker 1: you have NO, acl you have no stability in your.
1:01:13
Speaker 1: Knee it's part of the reason when, basketball, football, whatever
1:01:17
Speaker 1: once they heard, it like it's, over you can't there's
1:01:20
Speaker 1: no change in. Direction how could you ski at the
1:01:24
Speaker 1: speed in which it was. Skiing so when you see
1:01:27
Speaker 1: the video of her tumbling and getting like not life
1:01:30
Speaker 1: flighted but helicoptered, out you went.
1:01:33
Speaker 2: GEEZ i, mean that.
1:01:35
Speaker 1: Sucks but was It this probably the most likely thing to.
1:01:39
Speaker 1: HAPPEN i, mean there had to be some people in her,
1:01:41
Speaker 1: camp like, lindsay we respect the hell out of you
1:01:43
Speaker 1: for wanting to do. This for you, know there's The.
1:01:46
Speaker 1: Olympics it only happens every four. Years you train your
1:01:49
Speaker 1: whole life for, these you, know specific, runs but YOUR
1:01:53
Speaker 1: acl doesn't. Work there is zero in the. Speed you're
1:01:57
Speaker 1: going sixty seventy eighty miles an. Hour these crazy, turns
1:02:00
Speaker 1: these runs are like. ICE i don't think this is
1:02:03
Speaker 1: a good. Idea you just took a crazy fall when
1:02:06
Speaker 1: you had AN. Acl the risk reward here seems like
1:02:10
Speaker 1: the ratio is like a zero to one, hundred and
1:02:14
Speaker 1: clearly the worst thing possible. HAPPENED i don't think she
1:02:16
Speaker 1: lasted fifteen seconds before in the mid air she kind
1:02:19
Speaker 1: of took a, Tumble so props to her for, Trying
1:02:22
Speaker 1: but holy, shit the volume