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Credlin | 3 January · Credlin

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Speaker 1: Peter Kredland live on Sky News Australia.
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Speaker 2: Well good evening, I'm James Macpherson filling in for Peter Kredlin,
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Speaker 2: coming up tonight. Confirmation today that the New Orleans terror
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Speaker 2: attacker was an ISIS convert acting alone, Why Australia needs
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Speaker 2: to wake up before something happens here. Plus, while Labour
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Speaker 2: vows to bring back medi scare to trash the coalition,
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Speaker 2: new data reveals the scary truth about their own healthcare
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Speaker 2: record and Clive Palmer's back stirring the political pot. I'll
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Speaker 2: explain shortly why he's got tel MPs up in arms,
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Speaker 2: but first, the Albanezi government has issued fresh warnings today
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Speaker 2: that a terror attack on Australian shores is probable. The
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Speaker 2: warning comes after a Muslim convert flying in Islamic state
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Speaker 2: flag from the back of his pickup truck mowed down
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Speaker 2: dozens of US citizens in New Orleans, killing fifteen. The jihadist,
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Speaker 2: Shamsad ding Jabbar, said in the video posted online before
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Speaker 2: the attack that he wanted to kill non Muslims.
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Speaker 3: Jabbar explains he originally planned to harm his family and friends,
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Speaker 3: but was concerned the news headlines would not focus on
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Speaker 3: the quote war between the believers and the disbelievers end quote. Additionally,
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Speaker 3: he stated he had joined ISIS before this summer, so let's.
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Speaker 2: Not have any more equivocation on the motive. Oh, but
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Speaker 2: Jabbar was in financial trouble, Jabbar had been through a
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Speaker 2: couple of divorces, Jabba was somehow disenfranchised. While all of
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Speaker 2: that may have been true, by his own testimony, Jabbar
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Speaker 2: was a Muslim convert who wanted to kill non Muslims.
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Speaker 2: If that's offensive, take it up with him, except you
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Speaker 2: can't because he's in paradise. Apparently, better take it up
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Speaker 2: with the loved ones of those he went full jihad on.
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Speaker 2: For those of you who haven't been paying attention up
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Speaker 2: the back, the FBI reported they found a Quran in
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Speaker 2: the center of the terrorist's living room, opened to a
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Speaker 2: passage that read, and I quote Allah has indeed purchased
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Speaker 2: from the believers their lives and wealth in exchange for paradise.
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Speaker 2: They fight in the cause of Allah and kill or
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Speaker 2: are killed. This is the true promise binding on him.
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Speaker 2: That's Allah in the tour of the Gospel and the Koran,
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Speaker 2: and whose promise is truer than others. So rejoice in
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Speaker 2: the exchange you have made with him. That is truly
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Speaker 2: the ultimate triumph. Now, if that's not an incitement to violence,
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Speaker 2: well I don't know what is. The bodies of the
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Speaker 2: dead were still being collected from Bourbon Street as cultural elites,
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Speaker 2: and what will we do without cultural elites? Urged Americans
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Speaker 2: not to be too bothered by any of this. You know,
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Speaker 2: trucks go rogue from time to time. Here's the CEO
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Speaker 2: of All State Insurance with a message for the people
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Speaker 2: of New Orleans. Wednesday, tragedy struck the New Orleans community.
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Speaker 2: Our prayers are with the victims and their families.
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Speaker 4: We also need to be stronger together by overcoming an
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Speaker 4: addiction to divisiveness and negativity.
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Speaker 2: Working in local communities all across to America to amplify
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Speaker 2: the positive, increase trust, and accept people's imperfections and differences.
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Speaker 2: Together we win. So an Islamic jee Hartist kills and
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Speaker 2: names dozens of American citizens in a murderous rampage fueled
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Speaker 2: by religious ideology, and Tim Wilson of All State Insurance
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Speaker 2: thinks the public need to overcome an addiction to divisiveness
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Speaker 2: and negativity. Well, sorry, but I think the divisiveness happened
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Speaker 2: when Jabbar ran over fifteen people with his truck while
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Speaker 2: waving an Islamic state flag. And seeing your family members
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Speaker 2: all run over does tend to result in negativity. Decent
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Speaker 2: people don't overcome negativity towards terrorists all the ideology that
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Speaker 2: inspires them. Decent people hate evil, and it's indecent to
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Speaker 2: suggest that a good person is one who isn't too
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Speaker 2: riled up by a terror attack. The problem is not
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Speaker 2: that the public is addicted to negativity about Islamic terrorism.
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Speaker 2: The problem is that our political class is addicted to
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Speaker 2: tolerating things they ought not tolerate, and when tolerance is
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Speaker 2: applied to evil, tolerance itself becomes evil. Back home, this morning,
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Speaker 2: Assistant Minister to the PM Patrick Gorman came on this
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Speaker 2: network to warn that the terror threat to Australians was real.
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Speaker 5: Our terrorism alert level is probable. That is not where
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Speaker 5: you'd ever want us to be.
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Speaker 2: Well indeed, but it begs the question, doesn't it, Assistant
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Speaker 2: Minister to the PM. If you don't want the terrorism
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Speaker 2: level at probable, why have you imported almost three thousand
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Speaker 2: people from a highly radicalized Gaza strip don't come on
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Speaker 2: TV and warn us that the terror threat is higher
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Speaker 2: than you would like it to be when you've actively
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Speaker 2: done things that blind Freddie knows only serve to heighten
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Speaker 2: the terror threat. Jeez, these people make me so damn angry.
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Speaker 2: He went on like this.
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Speaker 5: I don't have anything I can share with your viewers
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Speaker 5: now other than that we all have a responsibility to
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Speaker 5: be on the lookout for potential things that don't seem
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Speaker 5: quite right.
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Speaker 2: So I have a responsibility to look out for potential
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Speaker 2: things that don't seem quite right. Newsflash, I'm not the government.
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Speaker 2: It's your job, mister Gorman, to look out for things
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Speaker 2: that don't seem quite right. But since you're obviously blind
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Speaker 2: to reality, can I make a couple of observations, you know,
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Speaker 2: just off the cuff. It doesn't seem quite right to
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Speaker 2: import Gazans without adequate security checks. It doesn't seem quite
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Speaker 2: right to allow anti Semitism to run rampant on our
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Speaker 2: streets every weekend for fourteen months, stirring up hatred not
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Speaker 2: just against Israel and the Jews, but against Australia and Australians.
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Speaker 2: It doesn't seem quite right to have a foreign minister
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Speaker 2: spewing anti Israel Retrick that everybody knows will stir up
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Speaker 2: radical elements here and it doesn't seem quite right to
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Speaker 2: import people into our country who, while not radicals, have,
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Speaker 2: in my opinion, a foundational worldview that is susceptible to radicalization.
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Speaker 2: But what would I know. I'm just a person with eyes.
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Speaker 2: Mister Gorman Eschews assured Sky News viewers that despite all
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Speaker 2: evidence to the contrary, the government does have a planned
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Speaker 2: to keep us safe. Have a listened to that.
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Speaker 5: There are phone numbers that people can call if they
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Speaker 5: see things that they think needs to be investigated.
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Speaker 2: Further, Oh, there's a phone number. There's a phone number
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Speaker 2: we can call if we see something that might need
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Speaker 2: to be investigated. You know, like a radicalized pickup truck
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Speaker 2: coming at high speed for you and your family as
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Speaker 2: you wander down the mall. That truck with the ISIS
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Speaker 2: flag does seem to be traveling at high speed, sweetheart,
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Speaker 2: on the footpath toward us. Does that seem quite right
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Speaker 2: to you?
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Speaker 4: No?
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Speaker 2: What's that government number?
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Speaker 6: Again?
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Speaker 2: Oop's too late? Do you feel safe?
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Speaker 5: And of course we'll continue to do everything we can
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Speaker 5: as an Australian government to keep Australians safe. At home.
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Speaker 5: That is of course so important. But we all have
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Speaker 5: a role to play in making sure that we see
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Speaker 5: things that maybe aren't quite right, that we do report
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Speaker 5: that to authorities.
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Speaker 2: The Albanezi government, so far as I can see, has
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Speaker 2: done very little to keep Australians safe at home, unless
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Speaker 2: releasing dangerous non citizens into the community with barely any
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Speaker 2: monitoring has some safety divid end. I'm just not seeing.
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Speaker 2: Ask seventy three year old woman from Perth, Nnette Simon's
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Speaker 2: how she feels about mister Gorman's assurances that this government
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Speaker 2: does everything it can to keep Australian safe at home.
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Speaker 2: She was beaten black and blue in her home by
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Speaker 2: a Kuwaiti bloke the alban Ezy government released into the community.
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Speaker 2: You see, this is the thing that really annoys me.
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Speaker 2: They allow stuff like that and then have the hide
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Speaker 2: to come on TV and tell us we can trust
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Speaker 2: them to keep us safe. They might as well come
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Speaker 2: on television and tell us up is down. Former Australian
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Speaker 2: Home Affairs Department Secretary Mike Paluzzo wasn't mincing words this morning.
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Speaker 2: He told The Australian that Islamic terror groups quote will
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Speaker 2: look for opportunities to exploit sentiment within large Muslim populations
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Speaker 2: in Western countries that the treatment of Palestine and Palestinians
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Speaker 2: is evidence of purportedly deep anti Muslim antagonism in the West.
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Speaker 2: Like mister Gorman said, the governments provided a phone number. Still,
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Speaker 2: it could be worse, couldn't it. Believe it or not,
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Speaker 2: We've got the alban easy government. Americans at least for
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Speaker 2: three more weeks. Well, they're stuck with Joe Biden.
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Speaker 7: People in New Orleans are sending a unmistakeable message they
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Speaker 7: will not let his attack or the attackers deluded ideology
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Speaker 7: overcome us. None of us should fear little he overcomers.
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Speaker 7: We're going to continue to relentlessly pursue ISIS and other
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Speaker 7: terrorist organizations where they are, and they'll find no stay
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Speaker 7: farther here. I'll continue to provide updates in New Orleans
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Speaker 7: and Las Vegas as a fact developer.
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Speaker 2: Where do we even begin? First, when talking about the
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Speaker 2: death of US citizens at the hands of Islamic terrorist,
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Speaker 2: the US President sounds like he might as well be
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Speaker 2: reading from the phone book. Listening to this doddering old
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Speaker 2: man is unbearable, especially when America is under attack. It's
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Speaker 2: like he doesn't even want to be there. In fact, incredibly,
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Speaker 2: he admitted that he didn't want to be there.
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Speaker 7: The sugar is back on. Kickoff is going to take
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Speaker 7: off very shortly. If I don't get this damn thing done,
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Speaker 7: we're going to be in real trouble.
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Speaker 8: Ah.
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Speaker 2: There's nothing more annoying than when an Islamic terror attack
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Speaker 2: interrupts your plans for Nutchos and football. Imagine being a
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Speaker 2: family member of one of those killed. The President just
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Speaker 2: wants to finish talk about this damn thing so he
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Speaker 2: can get back to the sports channel. What a disgrace,
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Speaker 2: and the media laughed. But back to what Biden mumbled
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Speaker 2: from the teleprompter. He spoke about the attacker's deluded ideology
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Speaker 2: quote unquote. Again, the attacker named his ideology, But like
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Speaker 2: Elbanezi yesterday, Biden won't like the guy from All State
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Speaker 2: Insurance said, you don't want to be all negative when
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Speaker 2: citizens die ergy herty attack. Did you hear Biden promise
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Speaker 2: to quote continue to relentlessly pursue ISIS and terror organizations. Well,
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Speaker 2: he funded terrorists all over the Middle East via the
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Speaker 2: billions he made available to Iran. But now now he'll
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Speaker 2: relentlessly pursue isis for the next eighteen days. The only
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Speaker 2: thing Joe Biden has relentlessly pursued during his term in office,
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Speaker 2: there's been the Delaware Beach. He spent five hundred and
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Speaker 2: seventy days on vacation since becoming leader of the free world.
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Speaker 2: But don't worry, in his last eighteen days, he's going
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Speaker 2: to get on with pursuing terrorists wherever they are. Well,
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Speaker 2: we know where they are, don't we. They're in America.
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Speaker 2: Biden and Harris let them in. As Donald Trump's incoming borders.
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Speaker 2: Our Tom Holman explained, over two.
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Speaker 4: Million people enter this country. We don't know who they are,
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Speaker 4: or where they came from, or what their purpose come
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Speaker 4: to this country. They weren't vetted, they weren't screened, they
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Speaker 4: weren't fangerprinted. We don't know who they are.
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Speaker 2: I wonder how many of those two million people who
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Speaker 2: escaped vetting but were provided with free hotel rooms, free food,
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Speaker 2: and free phones by the Biden administration. I wonder how
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Speaker 2: many of them came from countries that sponsor terror. The
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Speaker 2: fact is no one knows. Like our government here, the
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Speaker 2: Biden administration promises they're prioritizing the safety of citizens or
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Speaker 2: doing the very things that jeopardize the safety citizens.
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Speaker 4: Despite what's happened the last two days in Las Vegas
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Speaker 4: and in New Orleans, this administration is not stopping. There's
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Speaker 4: still really some thousands of people every week through the
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Speaker 4: CBP one app, the ACHMV program, and borbitual continues to
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Speaker 4: release people in this country without proper vetting. This is
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Speaker 4: not a good thing. And I can't wait for the
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Speaker 4: new administration to take power and secure this border and
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Speaker 4: protect our national security.
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Speaker 2: Even Democrat mouthpiece MSNBC was forced to admit almost that
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Speaker 2: Biden's lacks immigration policies had endangered Americans.
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Speaker 9: The border was not Biden's finest moment. Frankly, you can
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Speaker 9: see what happened here. And Trump is not wrong when
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Speaker 9: he talks about how border crossings were quite low. They
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Speaker 9: were running about seventy four thousand a month when he
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Speaker 9: left office, and they in fact did shoot up some
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Speaker 9: of it with some things. Biden said in some ways
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Speaker 9: that they put a moratorium, for example, on deportations, but
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Speaker 9: in fact we did get up here almost.
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Speaker 2: A three hundred thousand a month.
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Speaker 9: But what maybe people don't entirely know as a border
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Speaker 9: cross yourself come back on almost to where they were
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Speaker 9: under Trump. They're running at about one hundred thousand at
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Speaker 9: the moment. So we went up the hill and we
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Speaker 9: went down the hill, but unfortunately that was pretty costly.
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Speaker 2: I had to laugh when they said the border was
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Speaker 2: not Biden's finest moment, as if Biden had any fine moments.
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Speaker 2: But the left wing media haven't had many fine moments either.
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Speaker 2: They spent the past four years defending Biden's open border policy,
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Speaker 2: and they failed to mention that border crossings only came
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Speaker 2: down when it became a polling issue close to the election. Now,
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Speaker 2: it's true that the New Orleans isamust was home grown,
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Speaker 2: but the ideology he embraced was not. Islamic extremism didn't
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Speaker 2: arrive in America with the Pilgrims on the Mayflower, just
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Speaker 2: like it didn't arrive in Australia with the first Fleet.
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Speaker 2: So how did it get here? Well that's a great mystery,
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Speaker 2: isn't it, Which brings me back to the Albanesi government.
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Speaker 2: We don't care for politicians like mister Gorman to come
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Speaker 2: on television telling us the Islamic terror threat is elevated
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Speaker 2: and here's a number to call in the event you
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Speaker 2: spot the ji artist you've let into the country, or
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Speaker 2: a homegrown jietist inspired by on ideology that they've continued
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Speaker 2: to coddle. Nor do we care for media who continually
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Speaker 2: gaslight us every time there's a terror attack. Have listened
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Speaker 2: to see an end. Commentators discussing the explosion of a
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Speaker 2: Tesla cybertruck out front of the Trump Hotel in Vegas.
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Speaker 10: Well, it's all speculation at this point, and we don't
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Speaker 10: know whether this person was, you know, pro Trump, anti Trump,
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Speaker 10: maybe some kind of Islamic connection, although I don't think.
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Speaker 2: That honestly, she should have stopped it. We don't know,
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Speaker 2: because that's the only true thing she said. She actually
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Speaker 2: suggested that perhaps the guy who blew up a Tesla
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Speaker 2: cyber truck in front of the Trump Tower was a
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Speaker 2: Trump supporter. Well, of course, a Trump supporter got so
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Speaker 2: excited about Trump coming back to the White House that
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Speaker 2: he went and blew himself up in front of a
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Speaker 2: Trump hotel as a way of showing his support for Trump.
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Speaker 2: I know it's early, but that could be the stupidest
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Speaker 2: take of the entire year, Or maybe the stupidest take
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Speaker 2: is this.
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Speaker 7: We're also continuing to investigate whether or not there's any
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Speaker 7: connection between the New Orleans attack and the exposure in
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Speaker 7: Las Vegas as of now. As of now, they've just
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Speaker 7: been briefed, they have not found any evidence of such
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Speaker 7: a connection thus far.
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Speaker 2: So there's no evidence of any connection apart from the
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Speaker 2: fact both men were in the military, both men served
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Speaker 2: on the same military base, both men were in Afghanistan
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Speaker 2: at the same time, both men used the same company
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Speaker 2: to hire cars on the same day, and both men
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Speaker 2: committed terror attacks on January first. But outside of everything
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Speaker 2: pointing to a connection, there's absolutely no connection. The fact is,
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Speaker 2: no one is sure whether it's all an amazing coincidence
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Speaker 2: or a sinister connection at this point, So Joe Biden
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Speaker 2: should have said that. My point is, do you believe
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Speaker 2: there's any connection between what Western leaders say about Islamic
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Speaker 2: terror attacks and the truth? Left Americans with this promise.
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Speaker 7: I directed my team to accelerate these investigations so we
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Speaker 7: have answers to our unanswered questions. They're making every single
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Speaker 7: resource available to get the job done, and we're going
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Speaker 7: to share the facts as soon as I learn them,
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Speaker 7: so American public doesn't have to wonder.
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Speaker 2: Which means he'll get back to us sometime around his
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Speaker 2: third nap of the day. That's a joke, but it's
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Speaker 2: kind of apt. The West has been napping for far
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Speaker 2: too long when it comes to Islamic extremism, and if
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Speaker 2: we don't wake up soon, well it's already too late
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Speaker 2: for those poor souls in New Orleans. Well, as I said,
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Speaker 2: Former Home Affairs Department Secretary Mike Pizzulo has warned that
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Speaker 2: a revitalized Islamic state could seek to exploit anger over
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Speaker 2: Palestine within Muslim communities in Western countries, and his warning
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Speaker 2: comes as the Coalition warns that the Albenezer government's migration
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Speaker 2: policies may have left Australia open to similar vulnerabilities as
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Speaker 2: we've seen and as I just talked about in the US.
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Speaker 2: For more on this, I'm joined by One Nation Chief
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Speaker 2: of Staff James Ashby, and a Dony media is Lisa Goddard.
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Speaker 2: Welcome to you both, James, First, let me go to you.
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Speaker 2: Labor allowed a large cohort of Palestinians into the country
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Speaker 2: on tourist visas we're little to no vetting, and yet
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Speaker 2: assure us that safety is top of mind. Do you
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Speaker 2: believe them.
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Speaker 11: No, well, it certainly isn't because the vetting process was
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Speaker 11: merely skipped, and so here we have almost three thousand
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Speaker 11: now that have vented Australia. We have to be the
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Speaker 11: biggest intake of any Western country of these Palestinians from
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Speaker 11: the Gaza war torn area and no vetting. We are
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Speaker 11: setting ourselves up for danger here. And every Australian should
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Speaker 11: be concerned about the alban Easy governments why they brought
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Speaker 11: these people in. What concerns me most is that I
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Speaker 11: haven't heard one Palestinian come forward and say that the
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Speaker 11: terrorism attack that occurred on Israel on the eighth volt
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Speaker 11: of twenty three was just unnecessary, inhumane, terrible, should never
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Speaker 11: have occurred. I've not heard one Palestinian say that. But
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Speaker 11: instead we have been served lip service from this government
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Speaker 11: saying we've got to take in these poor Palestinians. They're
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Speaker 11: the ones that conducted the terrorism attack in the first place,
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Speaker 11: and Israel simply retaliated.
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Speaker 12: We have got probable.
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Speaker 11: Terrorism, which makes we've got more than a fifty percent
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Speaker 11: chance that a terrorism attack will occur in this country
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Speaker 11: in the next six months.
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Speaker 12: Not a good sign.
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Speaker 11: Australians should be concerned and I'm sick to death every
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Speaker 11: time you raise this you're simply called islamophobic. It's time
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Speaker 11: we have a proper debate about certain religions in this country.
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Speaker 2: Lisa Anthony Alberaneesi released a statement yesterday talking about the attack.
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Speaker 2: Of course he didn't mention Islam or the terror aspect
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Speaker 2: of it. Do you think the government is taking this
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Speaker 2: as seriously as they should? Well, James, it goes back
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Speaker 2: a few days ago.
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Speaker 8: You were talking about how there has been no up
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Speaker 8: on what the investigation, how the investigation is traveling in
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Speaker 8: relation to the synagogue bombing. Right, So we don't have
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Speaker 8: any deterrent in this country at the moment. There's a
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Speaker 8: prime minister who was using very weak language. He doesn't
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Speaker 8: go out and say yes, this is a pure act
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Speaker 8: of evil like we've seen Trump do. There is no
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Speaker 8: deterrent there. And we know very well when you do
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Speaker 8: these crisis calm statements, and look, I do that for
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Speaker 8: a livy. Every word that is said, every word that
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Speaker 8: is written, is deliberately chosen for a reason. Now he
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Speaker 8: is not putting words in terror in Islam into those
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Speaker 8: statements at all. They've been very deliberate and it's sending
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Speaker 8: a very clear message to people who do want to act.
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Speaker 8: Like we saw on the steps of the Opera House
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Speaker 8: on October seven, there is nothing in this country at
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Speaker 8: the moment that is shutting that down.
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Speaker 2: You're exactly right, and this is the thing that annoys me,
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Speaker 2: and I mentioned it at the outset of the program.
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Speaker 2: When government ministers come on television and tell us safety
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Speaker 2: as top of mind, but everything they do seems to
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Speaker 2: be to the contrary, It really just infuriates you. I
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Speaker 2: want to move on from all of that, because we've
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Speaker 2: got plenty of news happening here in other aspects. Queensland's
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Speaker 2: new LNP government has ordered a review of federal Environment
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Speaker 2: Minister Tanya plipus X move to nominate large parts of
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Speaker 2: the Cape York Peninsula for World Heritage listing. Now, local
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Speaker 2: indigenous leaders say the move could actually hinder future business
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Speaker 2: development in their communities. So you've got this clash between
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Speaker 2: the government's commitment to the environment and to indigenous welfare.
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Speaker 2: James is the LNP right to review tenua plis X
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Speaker 2: World Heritage move. She reckons it'll boost tourism to the
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Speaker 2: region and help the indigenous.
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Speaker 11: Oh look tourism's flourishing in the cape. And if people
19:36
Speaker 11: aren't fully aware the size of the cape. It starts
19:39
Speaker 11: at Innisfahl, goes up past Cans through Wheep, all that area,
19:43
Speaker 11: the Cooktown area, all the way to the very tip
19:45
Speaker 11: of Bammiger and put it into perspective, it's over a
19:47
Speaker 11: thousand kilometers in the car Mate, so.
19:50
Speaker 12: It's a big land mass.
19:52
Speaker 11: It's basically the entire tip of Australia and they want
19:56
Speaker 11: to shut this down. Look, we've got national parks there,
19:59
Speaker 11: they're well respected. Anyone who travels up there have been
20:02
Speaker 11: to the cape so many times. What you bring in
20:04
Speaker 11: you take out with you. And all this will mean
20:08
Speaker 11: is World Heritage. Means that a lot of the cape
20:11
Speaker 11: will be shut down. It'll mean that some of the
20:13
Speaker 11: mining prospects there and Weeper will be shut down. Any
20:16
Speaker 11: future ones will be shut down. Any idea of being
20:19
Speaker 11: able to take the telegraph track in the future is
20:22
Speaker 11: probably likely to be shut down. So tourism will be impacted,
20:26
Speaker 11: it won't benefit from it. And what tourism does go
20:29
Speaker 11: up there, it's a very unique experience.
20:31
Speaker 12: While you get the chance get up there.
20:33
Speaker 11: I say to anybody it is the last frontier of
20:36
Speaker 11: Australia that hasn't been developed.
20:38
Speaker 12: Go and see it.
20:39
Speaker 11: I encourage people, but we do not need this Underworld
20:43
Speaker 11: Heritage listing.
20:46
Speaker 2: Well listen, if we're serious about helping indigenous communities, we
20:49
Speaker 2: want to encourage economic development rather than lock up huge
20:52
Speaker 2: tracts of land basically as museums, don't we.
20:54
Speaker 8: Yeah, Well, if this dates back fifteen years when Peter
20:57
Speaker 8: Garrett was another, think pink bats. Now I think Peter Garrett.
20:59
Speaker 8: This was his grand idea. He pushed it through, he
21:01
Speaker 8: had the backing of the Labor government here in Queensland,
21:04
Speaker 8: wanted it federally. And now it's good to see the
21:06
Speaker 8: l and p here is actually really looking at that
21:08
Speaker 8: and say well is it the best thing? Because when
21:10
Speaker 8: you look at consultation, their own indigenous groups who are
21:13
Speaker 8: against this. And further to what James said, yes, you've
21:16
Speaker 8: got a lot of tourism up in that part of Queensland,
21:18
Speaker 8: but you've also got silicon mining. For example, there's at
21:21
Speaker 8: least two minds that are sitting there waiting to go
21:23
Speaker 8: through the approvals process. If they get through, that's a
21:25
Speaker 8: lot of money. It's a lot of money in royalties.
21:27
Speaker 8: That's a lot of jobs and that's the sort of
21:29
Speaker 8: thing that's at risk if you do put this blanket,
21:32
Speaker 8: sort of exclusion zone around that area.
21:34
Speaker 2: All Right, before I let both of you go, I
21:36
Speaker 2: have to talk about billionaire Clive Palmer stirring the political pot.
21:40
Speaker 2: He's applied to trademark the terms Teal Teals, the Teal
21:45
Speaker 2: Party and oz Teal. Now, I'm not sure fellow billionaire
21:49
Speaker 2: Simon Holmes a Court will be too impressed at that.
21:52
Speaker 2: I want to ask Lisa about all of that in
21:53
Speaker 2: a moment. But James Ashby, Clive Palmer's also wanting to
21:57
Speaker 2: trademark the name the Clive and a Lean Party. I'm intrigued.
22:01
Speaker 2: What's going on.
22:04
Speaker 11: Well, Clive Palmer did make an approach to One Nation
22:07
Speaker 11: in November. Obviously he thought that we would accept his deal,
22:12
Speaker 11: but One Nation's not for sale, James. Look, I respect Clive,
22:16
Speaker 11: he's a good businessman, but look he's been unsuccessful numerous
22:19
Speaker 11: times in the political arena of late. And look, we've
22:24
Speaker 11: got some tremendous members of Parliament, whether it be Sarah
22:27
Speaker 11: Game in South Australia, Malcolm Roberts, Pauline Hansen, Ricky Lee, Tyrrell,
22:33
Speaker 11: they're not interested in renaming one nation. We've already got
22:37
Speaker 11: elected members in most states across the mainland and we.
22:39
Speaker 12: Hope to increase those numbers. So all the best to Clive.
22:42
Speaker 11: I think he wasted his money on trademarking the Clive
22:45
Speaker 11: and Pauline Hanson party. It's not happening and I can
22:48
Speaker 11: assure Australians we've got Australia's best interests at heart.
22:51
Speaker 12: We're not interested in being brought out.
22:55
Speaker 2: And Lisa just quickly, what does Clive Palmer have to
22:58
Speaker 2: gain from trademarking the tea? I reckon he's just creating
23:02
Speaker 2: a bit of mischief. But Simon Holmes, a court shouldn't
23:04
Speaker 2: be upset. After all, the teals aren't to political party,
23:06
Speaker 2: are they.
23:07
Speaker 8: Well, you would think some of homes of Court would
23:08
Speaker 8: have planned ahead and actually done this himself, because I
23:11
Speaker 8: just I'm searching before we came on air. The real
23:13
Speaker 8: property that he should be buying right now is the
23:15
Speaker 8: domains because if you look at it, and here's the
23:17
Speaker 8: tip last night you said about keep you five cent
23:19
Speaker 8: pieces and that's will be worth a fortune in the future.
23:21
Speaker 8: The domains are up for grabs. So while they may
23:24
Speaker 8: be out there fighting about the trademarking the name of
23:26
Speaker 8: Teals or Teal or.
23:27
Speaker 2: The Teal Party.
23:28
Speaker 8: It's actually actually the dot com do you and the
23:30
Speaker 8: dot com that I think would be valuable in all
23:32
Speaker 8: of this.
23:33
Speaker 6: There you go.
23:33
Speaker 2: Straight after the show, I'm going to run out and
23:36
Speaker 2: make arrangements. James ashby Lisa Godard. Thanks for joining me.
23:39
Speaker 2: I appreciate your time tonight. Well, let's head to the
23:42
Speaker 2: US now, where authorities continue to investigate the role Islamic
23:45
Speaker 2: State played in the New Orleans terror attack on New
23:48
Speaker 2: Year's Eve. An ISIS flag, as I said, was on
23:51
Speaker 2: display when Shamsad didn Jabbar ramed his trucking to the
23:54
Speaker 2: crowd on Bourbon Street, killing fifteen and injuring dozens more.
23:58
Speaker 2: I want to talk about some of the detail that
24:00
Speaker 2: have just come to light around this. I'm joined by
24:02
Speaker 2: sky News contributor Kosha Gada Kosher. Thanks for joining me tonight.
24:07
Speaker 2: One of the things that stood out to me was
24:08
Speaker 2: the response of the FBI. I mean, trust is already
24:12
Speaker 2: at a pretty low EBB when it comes to the FBI,
24:14
Speaker 2: but it wasn't helped when hours after the attack, the
24:17
Speaker 2: FBI's special agent told the public it wasn't a terror attack.
24:21
Speaker 2: The FBI said that they were searching for three people.
24:24
Speaker 2: Then they backtracked and said no, no, there was no
24:26
Speaker 2: one else involved. It was just Jabbar acting on his own.
24:30
Speaker 2: The FBI really are not exactly covering themselves in glory
24:34
Speaker 2: and it's only early days.
24:37
Speaker 13: To put it mildly, to see the least, they're not
24:40
Speaker 13: covering themselves in glory games. And just to give a
24:42
Speaker 13: little bit more context, their budget post nine to eleven
24:45
Speaker 13: has doubled from where it was than it was round
24:47
Speaker 13: five billion dollar US dollars a year now it's more
24:49
Speaker 13: than eleven billion dollars a year in this intervening twenty
24:52
Speaker 13: year period. And the results just aren't there, but in
24:55
Speaker 13: terms of what they have failed to investigate, such as
24:58
Speaker 13: this unfolding story Stephen Paddock, the person carried out the
25:02
Speaker 13: biggest mass shooting in US history at the country music
25:06
Speaker 13: goers back in Las Vegas some years ago, to the
25:09
Speaker 13: Pulse night club shooting, to I would remind everybody the
25:12
Speaker 13: two assassins to President Trump, they had red flags in
25:15
Speaker 13: their profile and were not caught in time. And those
25:18
Speaker 13: are just off the top of my head. And then
25:19
Speaker 13: on the flip side, of course, this is the same
25:21
Speaker 13: FBI that has had many Americans angry for the political
25:25
Speaker 13: investigations that they've done, starting with the Crossfower Hurricane also
25:29
Speaker 13: known as the Russia collusion hoax, to raiding the president,
25:32
Speaker 13: to going after American civilians, to DEI and other things
25:35
Speaker 13: that they've been focused on. So it is not a
25:38
Speaker 13: good look. This is going to be one of the
25:40
Speaker 13: more controversial picks of Trump coming into the new cabinet.
25:44
Speaker 13: But clearly in general people want reform and really are
25:47
Speaker 13: taking a sharper look at the FBI, and the events
25:49
Speaker 13: of the last forty eight hours just really really bring
25:51
Speaker 13: that point home even more loudly.
25:55
Speaker 2: Yeah, you'd absolutely think support for Trump performing the FBI
25:58
Speaker 2: would be in an all time high. The other major
26:01
Speaker 2: story out of the US has been the cyber truck
26:03
Speaker 2: explosion outside the Trump hotel in Vegas. The New York Post,
26:08
Speaker 2: just as we were coming on air, is reporting that
26:10
Speaker 2: the soldier who shot himself in the head just before
26:13
Speaker 2: his cyber truck exploded outside the hotel had broken up
26:17
Speaker 2: with his wife six days prior, but that still doesn't
26:20
Speaker 2: explain why he would then choose to take his own
26:23
Speaker 2: life inside a tesla outside the Trump Hotel. The whole
26:28
Speaker 2: thing just gets more and more strange, doesn't it.
26:32
Speaker 13: It really is strange. You know, this is a developing story,
26:35
Speaker 13: but it is clear that there is more that meets
26:38
Speaker 13: the eye to what's happening here. As you mentioned earlier
26:41
Speaker 13: in the previous segment about how those connections between this
26:45
Speaker 13: one and the New Orleans thing just seemed too close
26:47
Speaker 13: for comfort, even though the official words that they weren't connected,
26:50
Speaker 13: the connections are many. Also the fact that he was
26:53
Speaker 13: a Green Beret. This is one of the most elite
26:56
Speaker 13: divisions of the Special Forces in the United States Army,
26:59
Speaker 13: and so I wonder what his objective was because the
27:02
Speaker 13: mission failure rate for that division is pretty close to zero.
27:05
Speaker 13: Was his objective to actually take out a large number
27:08
Speaker 13: of civilians thankfully that did not happen, or was his
27:11
Speaker 13: objective more symbolic that it was a tesla in front
27:14
Speaker 13: of a Trump Hotel. I don't know. I don't want
27:16
Speaker 13: to read too much into it, but the whole thing
27:18
Speaker 13: just doesn't make sense why somebody of that stature, in
27:21
Speaker 13: that caliber would be activated in this way or turned
27:24
Speaker 13: in this way, and then the way the mission was
27:27
Speaker 13: scoped and carried out also doesn't make sense on top
27:29
Speaker 13: of a whole host of other things. So hopefully we
27:32
Speaker 13: learn more soon. Back to the earlier topic, with the
27:34
Speaker 13: FBI helping figure this out. In addition to the military,
27:37
Speaker 13: there is institutional failure at every level. So I'm not
27:40
Speaker 13: getting my hopes up that we're going to get lots
27:42
Speaker 13: of clarity soon, but the American people are demanding it,
27:44
Speaker 13: so hopefully something changes.
27:48
Speaker 6: Yeah.
27:48
Speaker 2: Absolutely well. Of course, he was in a tesla owned
27:51
Speaker 2: by Elon Musk. Let's talk about Musk for a moment.
27:53
Speaker 2: He played a major part in Donald Trump's election campaign,
27:56
Speaker 2: and he's starting to shape up as a major player
27:59
Speaker 2: in the new administration as well. But help me understand
28:02
Speaker 2: the relationship between Trump and Musk, because it's reported that
28:05
Speaker 2: Musk has actually moved into mary Lago Yes.
28:10
Speaker 13: Now, mar Lagua, of course is a resort and a
28:13
Speaker 13: membership club, and it has something like one hundred and
28:15
Speaker 13: twenty six guest rooms that members can can book out,
28:18
Speaker 13: and he's decided to camp out there. He seems to
28:20
Speaker 13: be having the time of his life, joining all sorts
28:22
Speaker 13: of meetings with high profile people domestic and foreign. In
28:25
Speaker 13: terms of the relationship, you know it's new. Clearly he
28:28
Speaker 13: did play a pivotal role in the election, specifically Pennsylvania,
28:31
Speaker 13: which was the keystone to the whole victory. And I
28:35
Speaker 13: would just look at it as you know, these are
28:36
Speaker 13: two people that are different yet similar in terms of
28:40
Speaker 13: their success. They're the two most powerful men in the world,
28:43
Speaker 13: if not you know, up there among very powerful people
28:47
Speaker 13: in the business world as well as politics, and they
28:49
Speaker 13: found common cause where they just want to make America
28:52
Speaker 13: great again. And it's their aspirational people, whether it be
28:56
Speaker 13: to unleash peace and prosperity in a new golden era
28:59
Speaker 13: or in must case, he's talked about going to Mars,
29:02
Speaker 13: and he genuinely believes that America will be able to
29:04
Speaker 13: do that in his lifetime. Whatever the reasons are, I
29:07
Speaker 13: think they're in this for that aspracial goal of making
29:11
Speaker 13: the country great again.
29:14
Speaker 2: It's a really interesting relationship. I mean, Trump is accused
29:16
Speaker 2: of wanting to be a dictator and he's a narcissist.
29:20
Speaker 2: But typically those sort of people can't stand anyone else
29:23
Speaker 2: in the room who is approaching their stature. So for
29:27
Speaker 2: the two big guns to both be able to work
29:29
Speaker 2: together actually says good things about them. I think anyway,
29:33
Speaker 2: we'll see how that relationship develops. Kosher Garda, thanks for
29:35
Speaker 2: joining me, appreciate your time. We're going to go to
29:38
Speaker 2: a break, but when we come back, Labour turns to
29:40
Speaker 2: healthcare as a shining beacon for their election campaign, although
29:44
Speaker 2: it's looking increasingly like smoke and mirrors. More on that
29:47
Speaker 2: with Terry Barnes in just a moment, Welcome back well.
29:53
Speaker 2: Health Minister Mark Butler recently signaled changes to Medicare and
29:57
Speaker 2: urgent care clinics as part of Labour's election pitch in
30:00
Speaker 2: the lead up to this year's federal poll. It comes
30:02
Speaker 2: as new data reveals working Australians are paying more to
30:05
Speaker 2: see a GP than they were twelve months ago. Surprise, surprise.
30:09
Speaker 2: They're also being hit with higher gap fees and fewer
30:12
Speaker 2: appointments are now fully covered. For more on this, I'm
30:15
Speaker 2: joined by the Spectator contributor Terry Barnes. Terry was only
30:19
Speaker 2: days ago I was talking about Labor resurrecting the Meny
30:22
Speaker 2: Scare campaign against Peter Dutton, but it seems like the
30:25
Speaker 2: real horror story here is their own track record.
30:30
Speaker 6: Yes, Yes, and happy New Year, James.
30:32
Speaker 14: Look, I think the Labor government, Mark Butler's Health Minister
30:37
Speaker 14: are really doing the smoke and mirrors thing, focusing on
30:40
Speaker 14: bolk billing, focusing on their urgent care clinics, which really
30:44
Speaker 14: cut the lunch of general practitioners and general practices across
30:48
Speaker 14: the country in terms of viability in terms of getting
30:51
Speaker 14: gps to actually do the.
30:52
Speaker 6: Job on a day to day basis.
30:55
Speaker 14: But certainly I think if you look at what Labour's
30:57
Speaker 14: done over the last three years, they haven't really done
30:59
Speaker 14: much at all. They've tinkered here, they've tinkered there, they've
31:02
Speaker 14: trod water, they haven't actually really done much to reform
31:05
Speaker 14: the system, both public and private, and they haven't really
31:08
Speaker 14: done much.
31:09
Speaker 6: Except deal with the politics of bolk billing. And I think.
31:13
Speaker 14: The longer that goes on, the longer that both sides
31:16
Speaker 14: of politics think that bulk billing is the nirvana. Getting
31:19
Speaker 14: the bulk filling rate up as the nirvana. We're not
31:22
Speaker 14: catually going to get serious reform anywhere else. And we
31:24
Speaker 14: do have problems through hospitals, we do have problems with
31:27
Speaker 14: general practice and primary care, and as some of the
31:31
Speaker 14: well the AMA and other health groups have been pointing out,
31:33
Speaker 14: we don't do enough in terms of prevention, and I
31:35
Speaker 14: think dollars fed on prevention, say thousands even millions of
31:40
Speaker 14: dollars down the track in terms of other care. But
31:42
Speaker 14: on the other hand, I mean it's the nanny state
31:44
Speaker 14: wanting to tell us what to do, so I think
31:45
Speaker 14: we're going to get the balance right there.
31:47
Speaker 6: But in terms of the.
31:48
Speaker 14: Politics, I think Labor is dressing it up in terms
31:52
Speaker 14: of the other side. Though in terms of the coalition,
31:54
Speaker 14: where have they been for the last three years, I
31:56
Speaker 14: haven't seen anything of any note from the Shadow Minister
31:59
Speaker 14: and Ruster. I think it's important that the Coalition actually
32:02
Speaker 14: lays down where it wants to go with health and
32:05
Speaker 14: health care if it wants to actually win the next election, it.
32:10
Speaker 2: Will as well as health, obviously, energy is going to
32:13
Speaker 2: be a big issue come the next election. Power company
32:17
Speaker 2: bosses say investors are pulling out of Australia in favor
32:21
Speaker 2: of countries with more stable and supportive policies, which is
32:24
Speaker 2: just an incredible thing to think that businesses now see
32:28
Speaker 2: Australia as a risk terry. Things are pretty bad now
32:32
Speaker 2: when even the power companies are calling for the government
32:34
Speaker 2: to come in and do something, even as far as regulation,
32:37
Speaker 2: to make things more stable.
32:41
Speaker 6: Well, that's right.
32:42
Speaker 14: I mean, basically, the government, for all that's commitment to
32:46
Speaker 14: net zero by twenty fifty and everything else, it seems
32:49
Speaker 14: to do not know whether.
32:51
Speaker 6: It's Arthur or Martha when it comes to actually how
32:52
Speaker 6: it's going to get there.
32:54
Speaker 14: And certainly energy providers and companies and investors who want
32:58
Speaker 14: to operate in this space to have some clarity, they
33:01
Speaker 14: want regulation. Well, but then again, I see that all
33:04
Speaker 14: of those of commoned have really taken the net zero
33:07
Speaker 14: by twenty fifty kool aid, haven't they. I mean, they
33:09
Speaker 14: have treated that as a bit of a nirvana in itself.
33:13
Speaker 14: And certainly, I think the one thing I did notice
33:16
Speaker 14: about all those whining operators and investors is that they
33:21
Speaker 14: did not mention nuclear at any stage, or traditional fossil
33:25
Speaker 14: fuels and how they fit into the overall scheme of things.
33:27
Speaker 14: And I think really what they need to do is
33:31
Speaker 14: except that there's not just one narrow band of future
33:36
Speaker 14: energy source. There is a broad band, and we haven't
33:39
Speaker 14: seen that from them because they're still decided to stick
33:41
Speaker 14: with the labor government, not actually opened their minds to
33:44
Speaker 14: anything else. And really, again I think the best way
33:47
Speaker 14: to sort out this regulatory issue they're complaining about is
33:51
Speaker 14: to actually have an election on one side or another
33:53
Speaker 14: gets the mandate.
33:56
Speaker 2: Well, the other big issue when it comes to energy,
33:58
Speaker 2: of course, is the kind of vehicles we drive. Labour
34:01
Speaker 2: have just introduced a vehicle efficiency standard which is going
34:05
Speaker 2: to jack up the cost of cars in all likelihood,
34:08
Speaker 2: But the federal government at the same time says it
34:10
Speaker 2: will help finance low interest loans to help people get
34:14
Speaker 2: into electric vehicles. So the Commonwealth Bank is reportedly receiving
34:18
Speaker 2: one hundred and fifty million dollars from the federal government
34:20
Speaker 2: to offer low interest loans for workers earning less than
34:23
Speaker 2: one hundred grand a year, as well as essential workers
34:25
Speaker 2: including police officers, teachers, firefighters and nurses. Terry. This whole
34:31
Speaker 2: EV industry is essentially bankrolled on subsidies.
34:37
Speaker 6: EV or not EV that is the question, Jent.
34:41
Speaker 14: But certainly look in terms of the first one, David
34:43
Speaker 14: little Prout, the National Party leader, is right. I mean,
34:46
Speaker 14: if the government imposes these missions penalties on manufacturers, it's
34:52
Speaker 14: not them who's going to pay it. Ultimately, it's going
34:54
Speaker 14: to be the consumers who buy their product or don't
34:57
Speaker 14: buy their product. In terms of the in terms of
35:00
Speaker 14: of the EV loans. I just think, did Henry Ford
35:03
Speaker 14: get to the government to subsidize the Model T and
35:06
Speaker 14: how that rolled out? I mean it came down to
35:08
Speaker 14: private enterprise and doing it right and actually working out
35:11
Speaker 14: what the market wanted and what consumers wanted. With electric vehicles,
35:16
Speaker 14: they're expensive to buy relative to internal combustion vehicles. They
35:22
Speaker 14: say they're cheaper to run over time, but really, if
35:26
Speaker 14: you're going to make them worthwhile, you don't subsidize them.
35:29
Speaker 14: You don't subsidize loans. You actually make them cheaper to
35:31
Speaker 14: buy by making them more efficient and in terms of production,
35:34
Speaker 14: in terms of distribution, and really I think Elon musk
35:39
Speaker 14: if Tesla or any other EV operators should actually get
35:43
Speaker 14: on with the job of making sure that those vehicles
35:46
Speaker 14: are cheap and accessible to consumers. But the infrastructure behind
35:50
Speaker 14: them is a factor here as well. I mean, if
35:53
Speaker 14: people on lower incomes can't afford to be able to
35:56
Speaker 14: plug in those electric vehicles that they buy with thy
36:00
Speaker 14: subsidized loans, what's the port of doing in the first place.
36:05
Speaker 2: The thing that scares me, Terry is when you've got
36:06
Speaker 2: the Albanezy government picking winners and losers, do you really
36:10
Speaker 2: trust them to get that right. I'm not so sure.
36:14
Speaker 2: Terry Barnes. Thanks for joining me tonight. We're going to
36:16
Speaker 2: go to a break, but stick around. Coming up. Donald
36:19
Speaker 2: Trump warns there'll be hell to pay without the Middle
36:21
Speaker 2: East hostage deal by the time he returns to the
36:24
Speaker 2: White House. But what exactly does that mean? We'll find
36:27
Speaker 2: out with Michael Danby in just a moment welcome back well.
36:34
Speaker 2: Donald Trump has preempted his return to the White House,
36:36
Speaker 2: issuing a warning to Harmas on New Year's Eve. He's
36:39
Speaker 2: warned that quote, the hostages better come back soon. Recent
36:43
Speaker 2: negotiations between Hamas and Israel have stalled, with the deal
36:47
Speaker 2: unlikely before Trump's inauguration on January twenty. To talk about
36:51
Speaker 2: more on this sum joined by former Chairman of the
36:53
Speaker 2: Joint Standing Committee on Foreign Affairs, Defense and Trade, Michael Danby. Michael,
36:58
Speaker 2: great to have your company. Donald Trump says there will
37:01
Speaker 2: be all hell to pay in the Middle East if
37:04
Speaker 2: the hostages aren't released by the time he takes office,
37:06
Speaker 2: that's just about eighteen days away. What do you think
37:09
Speaker 2: he means by that?
37:12
Speaker 1: I think Trump will talk Turkey literally. The leaders of
37:18
Speaker 1: a must have fled from Qatar to Ankara. In Turkey,
37:22
Speaker 1: they're captives of a pretty hardline man, mister Erduwan. I
37:28
Speaker 1: think Allah the film Midnight Express. We all know that
37:34
Speaker 1: Turkish regime can be a pretty tough regime and that
37:38
Speaker 1: deterred tourism.
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Speaker 12: From Turkey for twenty years.
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Speaker 1: I think Donald Trump will Alah Tony Soprano asked mister
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Speaker 1: Urduwan to get those Hamas leaders to disgorge the hostages
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Speaker 1: and they'll be hell to pay with them in Turkey.
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Speaker 12: If not, Donald Trump will trade other things with the
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Speaker 12: Turks for them. Also, I suspect.
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Speaker 1: He'll unleash the Israelis to capture Mohammed Sinhwar and other people.
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Speaker 1: Sinwa's brother who's turned out to be the hardliner who's
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Speaker 1: changed conditions, demanded more political prisoners and changed the number
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Speaker 1: of hostages to.
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Speaker 12: Be released from thirty five to include twelve dead bodies.
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Speaker 1: Let me explain this for the people at the ABC
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Speaker 1: who are doing soft propaganda for Armas the White House,
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Speaker 1: Mister Blincoln and mister Kelly at the Pentagon say it
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Speaker 1: is a mus who are blocking the deal. The Israelis
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Speaker 1: are probably willing to let out too many of these
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Speaker 1: prisoners have been convicted in Israeli courts of murder, but
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Speaker 1: the Israelis stand willing to make the deal, and Nataniel
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Speaker 1: has just sent another delegation to Doha.
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Speaker 2: That's one of the things I can't understand about the
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Speaker 2: way this has reported these prisoner exchanges, because they're not
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Speaker 2: really prisoner exchanges. You're exchanging prisoners for innocent civilians, people
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Speaker 2: who are charged with terrorism offences, for people who committed
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Speaker 2: only a crime of being in bed at night when
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Speaker 2: Hamas raided. It just does not seem right at all,
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Speaker 2: and yet it shows you the links to which Israel
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Speaker 2: will go in order to save just one life. I
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Speaker 2: want to talk to you about another big issue around
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Speaker 2: the world right now, which is the rupture of vital
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Speaker 2: undersea cables, which of course provide connectivity with the Internet
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Speaker 2: around the world. There's a cable between Finland and Estonia
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Speaker 2: that has potential to be the start of new geopolitical tensions.
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Speaker 2: It's been cut and there are claims that Russia was involved.
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Speaker 2: What can you tell us about that, Michael.
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Speaker 1: Our Kremlin fleck friends call this full spectrum warfare, so
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Speaker 1: they're not only just involved in kinetic warfare and Ukraine
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Speaker 1: bombing Ukraine in cities with the Iranian drones every night
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Speaker 1: and killing thousands of.
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Speaker 12: Poor Ukrainian civilians.
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Speaker 1: What they're doing is they're putting pressure on the West
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Speaker 1: by disrupting our crucial cables for telephonic communication and internet.
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Speaker 12: So the cable between Finland and.
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Speaker 1: Estonia was cut by a ship that the Finns have arrested.
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Speaker 1: How's that Floodimir putn for a great success for your
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Speaker 1: attack on Ukraine. Finland has joined, like Sweden, the Natal Alliance,
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Speaker 1: and they are arresting ships that appear to be working
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Speaker 1: for the Russians, and that the Finns say cut this
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Speaker 1: power cable and internet.
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Speaker 2: Well, the Finns say one of these Russian ships dragged
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Speaker 2: its anchor for sixty three kilometers that ended up cutting
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Speaker 2: the cable. It seems a little suspicious that a ship
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Speaker 2: dragged its anchor for that long, and I think there's
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Speaker 2: a good reason to suspect that the Russian are involved
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Speaker 2: in these acts. Michael Danby, thanks for joining me this evening.
41:04
Speaker 2: I really appreciate it. We're going to go to a break,
41:07
Speaker 2: but when we come back, which country no longer wants
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Speaker 2: Ozsi tourists and the fans who paid three hundred and
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Speaker 2: fifty dollars for a five minute concert. Details on that
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Speaker 2: in just a moment. Welcome back.
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Speaker 10: Well.
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Speaker 2: With many countries scrambling to reboot their tourism industries after
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Speaker 2: the pandemic, one major destination wants Ozzy's to stay away.
41:31
Speaker 2: With more than six hundred thousand Australians visiting last year,
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Speaker 2: Japan says hot spots like Tokyo, Kyoto and the Golden
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Speaker 2: Root can't handle the influx of Australian tourists. For more
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Speaker 2: on this, I'm joined by the Daily Telegraphs Tim Blair. Tim,
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Speaker 2: I know many people who have been to Japan recently.
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Speaker 2: What's our fascination with Japan? And what do you think
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Speaker 2: of the Japanese government saying we've got too many Australians.
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Speaker 15: Well, you know the timing isn't good, James, because I'm
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Speaker 15: going there in March and I expecting a great welcome.
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Speaker 15: I don't think the problem is so much the number
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Speaker 15: of tourists that Japan is getting.
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Speaker 6: You know.
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Speaker 15: Obviously a place like Turkyo, I think population there is
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Speaker 15: south of fourteen millions, so it can probably absorb one
42:14
Speaker 15: or two non Japanese. But I think the issue is
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Speaker 15: that Japan. The Japanese culture is one of respect, quietness,
42:23
Speaker 15: solemnity even and that doesn't mesh well with a lot
42:27
Speaker 15: of Western behavioral trends. Let's just say, I mean, there's
42:31
Speaker 15: beautiful online footage of retail stores there James, where you know,
42:36
Speaker 15: iPhones and so on are just on display. They're not
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Speaker 15: tied to anything, they're not behind boxes, they're not in cages.
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Speaker 15: Japan doesn't have theft. So when they get a few yobs,
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Speaker 15: and I don't mean that just in the terms of
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Speaker 15: Australias that yobs generally loving there, they might get a
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Speaker 15: bit concerned. It might be a bit a bit of
42:52
Speaker 15: a clash.
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Speaker 2: Tim Are you saying that the Ballei crowd or to
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Speaker 2: stick to Bali and not go to Japan.
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Speaker 15: I think they should go to Japan, but more to
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Speaker 15: study than to inflict themselves. Let's play it diplomatically there.
43:08
Speaker 15: How about that.
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Speaker 2: That's very diplomatic of you. Hey, speaking of diplomacy, there's
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Speaker 2: nothing diplomatic about Meghan Markel. After returning to Instagram for
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Speaker 2: the first time in five years, she's now dropped the
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Speaker 2: trailer of her new Netflix show I'm sure you'll be
43:25
Speaker 2: watching this Tim. It's called With Love Meghan. It's set
43:28
Speaker 2: for release on January fifteen. The show consists of eight
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Speaker 2: episodes featuring Meghan and some of her remaining Hollywood friends
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Speaker 2: cooking and eating quote simple yet elevated food. Tim. The
43:40
Speaker 2: trailer has already been mocked online. Netflix spent one hundred
43:44
Speaker 2: million dollars on Meghan, I reckon. The best they can
43:46
Speaker 2: hope for is that people will I don't know, hate
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Speaker 2: to watch it.
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Speaker 15: Absolutely. That's the last sort of role of the list
43:54
Speaker 15: on this sort of stuff. We're actually right now in
43:57
Speaker 15: a very fascinating period of time because the whole era
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Speaker 15: of celebrity, especially fake celebrity that sort of posed you know,
44:06
Speaker 15: the Megan market era, I guess for one of a
44:08
Speaker 15: better term where you just know they're banging on an act,
44:11
Speaker 15: you know, it's not the genuine article. That era has
44:14
Speaker 15: kind of gone away, But we still have a lot.
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Speaker 12: Of contracts to play out.
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Speaker 15: We still have a lot of people who like Netflix
44:21
Speaker 15: who've invested a lot in their fake personas and hope
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Speaker 15: it's going to pay off. It's going to be intriguing
44:26
Speaker 15: to see if they can ever revive that kind of
44:30
Speaker 15: you know, bogus celebrity era where you just know, as
44:32
Speaker 15: soon as the camera's turned off, Megan's gone. The Megan
44:35
Speaker 15: that you and I see on the screens or phones
44:37
Speaker 15: or whatever, that Megan doesn't exist in reality, and she's
44:40
Speaker 15: just gone away. I'd also add this, why is she
44:43
Speaker 15: doing a cooking show? She hasn't eaten in about seven years.
44:46
Speaker 15: Always trust a fat cook, not Megan Market.
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Speaker 2: Tim, I am staying right away from that one. You're
44:55
Speaker 2: on your own with that. I make no comment whatsoever.
44:58
Speaker 2: We'll just look at that one there. Let's talk about
45:01
Speaker 2: the cost of living for a second, because obviously it's
45:04
Speaker 2: biting many householders. New research from Compare the Market has
45:08
Speaker 2: found that more than three quarters of Australians are looking
45:10
Speaker 2: to cut back on spending and boost savings in the
45:13
Speaker 2: new year. I would suggest that's not a bad idea,
45:16
Speaker 2: but I was curious about what people intend to cut
45:19
Speaker 2: back on. People listened to things like takeaway meals, clothing, holidays,
45:24
Speaker 2: streaming services. I guess no need to watch Netflix and coffee.
45:29
Speaker 2: I'm not so sure that that should be cut back on.
45:32
Speaker 2: I was curious, what are you going to cut back
45:34
Speaker 2: on this year to save some dollars?
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Speaker 15: I don't think I've got anything left to cut back on, mate.
45:39
Speaker 15: I think actually today yesterday might be the two year
45:42
Speaker 15: anniversary of me cutting back completely on alcohol and cigarettes.
45:47
Speaker 15: They're gone, so I don't need to add that to
45:51
Speaker 15: my cutback list. I might have to cut back on,
45:54
Speaker 15: I don't know, some of the weaker forms of tea
45:57
Speaker 15: that I'm now mildly addicted to.
45:59
Speaker 6: It's not really hell.
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Speaker 15: Of a lot of options. I can cut back on books. Look,
46:02
Speaker 15: I've got too many of them. Let's get rid of those.
46:04
Speaker 15: We don't need words.
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Speaker 2: If you've cut back on cigarettes and alcohol, you can
46:09
Speaker 2: probably take out a second mortgage on an investment property.
46:12
Speaker 2: The amount of money you pay for that kind of
46:13
Speaker 2: stuff for the tax that the government inflicts Up. Yeah,
46:21
Speaker 2: I want to talk about US rapper Ice Spice, so
46:23
Speaker 2: I'm sure you're a big fan of the rapper has
46:26
Speaker 2: been slammed by Brisbane fans after she showed up twenty
46:29
Speaker 2: five minutes late for her New Year's Eve festival set,
46:33
Speaker 2: which then left her only five minutes to actually perform
46:36
Speaker 2: because the venue would hit curfew. So a whole lot
46:39
Speaker 2: of fans who paid three hundred and fifty dollars for
46:42
Speaker 2: a ticket to see her perform. Effectively paid three hundred
46:45
Speaker 2: and fifty bucks for a five minute concert. You'd be
46:49
Speaker 2: pretty ticked off about that, wouldn't you.
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Speaker 15: Well, it depends. I mean I would pay double that
46:54
Speaker 15: for half the amount of time. From my spye, She's
46:56
Speaker 15: not in my top ten rappers. I'm familiar one song
47:00
Speaker 15: of his, I think she did a duet with some
47:03
Speaker 15: girl named Swift, was a big deal in the concert
47:08
Speaker 15: world a year or so ago, and so I'm aware
47:11
Speaker 15: of that aspect of the uber, if you will. But
47:15
Speaker 15: even that was pretty lackluster, and I'm not convinced that
47:19
Speaker 15: paying that much for five minutes you would pay more
47:22
Speaker 15: for less. I think just to get out of there
47:24
Speaker 15: in a bit of a hurry, I wasn't even where
47:25
Speaker 15: she was in the country. I'm surprised she hasn't called
47:28
Speaker 15: a little bit upset mane.
47:31
Speaker 2: Indeed, in the time we've got left, we've only got
47:33
Speaker 2: about one minute. But I just wanted to ask you
47:35
Speaker 2: about research from JWS that found this massive gender divide
47:40
Speaker 2: when it comes to different government policies. So one I
47:43
Speaker 2: wanted to ask you about was it found support for
47:46
Speaker 2: nuclear power was twenty three points lower amongst women as
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Speaker 2: compared to men. Do you think that's just an anomaly
47:53
Speaker 2: or is there something to that? Why according to the research,
47:56
Speaker 2: do you think women seem so averse to nuclear power
48:00
Speaker 2: more men just more gung ho? What's what do you
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Speaker 2: thinks behind that?
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Speaker 15: Well that this is a weird one because nuclear is
48:06
Speaker 15: actually the safest form of energy in terms of lives
48:10
Speaker 15: lost and health impacts per amount of energy generated. So
48:14
Speaker 15: in this case, the women are like, let's go crazy
48:17
Speaker 15: with that dangerous you know, wind farming, crazy soul of stuff.
48:20
Speaker 15: While men, you know ourselves, we're the whims we're saying,
48:24
Speaker 15: you know, plants safe, you know, like nuclear is the
48:26
Speaker 15: only way to go if you want to protect our
48:28
Speaker 15: children and also you know, keep the houses powered and
48:31
Speaker 15: to keep hospitals running, you know, men as usual. Like
48:35
Speaker 15: it's a bit of a change of pattern, isn't it.
48:36
Speaker 15: I think I think we're being the bosses in this regard,
48:38
Speaker 15: and good for us, mate.
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Speaker 2: Tim Blair. This is why I like speaking to you.
48:44
Speaker 2: Always explain the world to me, and after talking to you,
48:46
Speaker 2: I understand things much more clearly. Appreciate your time tonight.
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Speaker 2: Thanks for a good week, and enjoy your weekend, and
48:54
Speaker 2: thank you to everyone watching tonight. I appreciate your company,
48:57
Speaker 2: but don't go anywhere. Coming right up in just a
48:59
Speaker 2: moment is the Bolt Report with of course Danika Digiorgio.
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Speaker 2: That's coming up now. Goodnight, MHM.