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152. Rachel’s Journey Out of Hustle Culture · The Shift Podcast

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OK. I'm really excited.
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I have Rachel on with us today. She's actually been one of my
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long time clients. And so let's just start out,
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introduce yourself, start there. All right, Hi everyone.
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I'm Rachel. As she just said, I'm, I guess
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one of her long time clients and I'm so grateful to have been
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with her since for a couple of years.
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Oh, my goodness. Yeah, lots of growth in between
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and and all around. I am a critical care transport
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nurse as well as a neuro oncology clinical researcher
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nurse. The next 4 weeks mainly I'm I'm
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a critical care and critical care transport nurse.
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And I also would love if you don't mind telling them where
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you're from, because I feel like it's so interesting 'cause I
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actually have a lot of clients that are from back East and it's
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so interesting, like how busy it is both in your EMS system and
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in your hospital systems there. It's just like, so like to
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compare it with the West Coast. It's just so different.
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Oh my gosh, yes. So I am from New Jersey.
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I am a dual, I guess licensed nurse, New Jersey and New York,
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so very busy areas. Yeah, yeah.
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And one thing that I really wanted to talk about with you on
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this episode is, you know, especially you're joining us
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inside the new program, the shift, too.
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But one thing with you is you have made a lot of shifts in
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your life, career shifts, job shifts, and I feel like you've
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done them pretty confidently. There wasn't a lot of
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vacillating. Like even early on when you went
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to transport, you'd only been an ICU nurse for what, like a year?
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A year, yeah, I wasn't. I was an ICU nurse for a year,
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but had I was an EMT. Oh, I still am an EMT for since
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I was 17, so my gosh. So for many, many years.
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But yeah, I seen his for a year and ER for I think less than
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that. So, yeah, yeah.
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And lots of people that I work with, like we're coaching on how
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do we just get the confidence to make a shift, to make a change.
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And with you, it's like you're just not afraid to shift into a
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different job, a different department.
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Like we coach on it and we talk about it, but you also step into
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it very well and very quickly. So I'm curious like for you, how
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have you like how have you been able to do that?
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One thing I would like I, I, I definitely have a little bit of
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an impulsive side. So I, I guess I'm like, Oh yeah,
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I can definitely do that. Like I'm going to make this
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transition and just figure it out as I go along type of thing.
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And I just think that what, what I really am.
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But after I make those decisions, what I am pretty good
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at is I'm, I'm pretty good at kind of finding or using my
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fundamentals and kind of using my fundamentals to my advantage
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and building off of that and, and really learning as I go
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along and really building on my core fundamental knowledge on
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things, especially going into CCT, which was a completely
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different environment than what I was used to.
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I would like to say that I'm, I'm, I'm pretty happy that I
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started my nursing career in a medical ICU where I, I didn't
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have exposure to like, you know, neuro ICU, you know, medical ICU
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or I had dabbled in a little bit of like cardiac and stuff like
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that. So how exposure of like a little
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bit of different things that I could build my fundamentals on
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and build up later, but I did not have any any exposure to
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like peeds or OB. So those were two ginormous
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hurdles when I was doing starting off CCT for sure.
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Well, and I'm curious for you because a lot of people when
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they make those job changes, especially, you know, like you
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said, like impulsively, they have a lot of fear afterwards.
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And I do think a lot of the things that we've coached on is
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like, wait, OK, how do we confidently step into this next
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role? But not of like fear of like,
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did I make the wrong decision or not?
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I, I don't, I, I don't see that with you.
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So for, and that's common. So like for people who had maybe
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have that fear, like, what do you think was different for you
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to not be like, kind of like holding on to the past of like,
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did I make the wrong decision? And you were, we were just like
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confidently always coaching on like, OK, well, how do I
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transition confidently now into this new thing?
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But I guess what was really helpful was I definitely made
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like that pros and cons list. I know we talked about that
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quite often. I know I had a couple of
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periods, especially when I was transitioning from ICUCCT world
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to my most recent job of the clinical research job because
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that was something completely new to me.
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And I'm like, I don't even know if I'm making the right decision
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here. So definitely making out that
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pros and cons list was definitely something very
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helpful. And at the time, just really
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kind of delving into what my, I guess, like my boundaries are
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what my, what, what I, you know, expect out of a workplace, out
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of a job and kind of really delving into those things where
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it was really, really, really helpful.
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And it helped me really make it really helped me make that
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decision a little bit easier. Yeah.
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Yeah. This is my why?
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Yeah, yeah, I remember that. Because we do.
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We have done that like pros and cons, but also something you're
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really good at is giving yourself permission to ask those
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questions of yourself. Like giving yourself permission
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to like dream big and be like, no, wait, this is what I want,
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this is what I don't want. And then going into each job
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interview seeing if it's a match.
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Which is so funny. This is so relatable right now
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because I definitely made a big decision for myself.
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I decided to put it my 4 weeks notice at my current job and I
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was able to do that confidently, not out of impulse.
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I can say that for sure. I definitely thought it through
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and I I definitely looked to what my future self looked like
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and what she would tolerate and what she doesn't tolerate and
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how I can mold my future further.
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And this definitely was the best move for me, even in my personal
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life as well as in my career. So I guess, yeah, yeah, you can
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say that I do make these these transitions kind of confidently.
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Yeah. And something that you just said
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was another thing I was going to bring up is that we, what we've
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also really done is talked about like pulling from your future.
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Like if you gave yourself permission to dream about what
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you really want, what would that be?
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And then getting the wisdom from her, like pulling, you know, the
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wisdom from her as you're making some of these big decisions
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about transitioning or leaving or starting something new.
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And I know that's always been helpful with your pros and cons
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list too. Oh my gosh, honestly, like
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putting into perspective that that future Rachel has been one
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of like the biggest game changers.
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It's like, yeah, what would Rachel, what would future Rachel
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tolerate? Like, no, no, she wouldn't
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tolerate XY and Z. No, no, no.
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This is how we're going to rebuild this.
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This is how we're going to deal with these issues that arise and
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how we're going to fix our current situation to build that
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future. And that has definitely over the
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years has made me feel a lot more confident in my decisions
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and how I am in my workplace as well.
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It's just like, well, no, these are my boundaries and here we
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are. Or that's it.
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Yeah, it's super helpful. Looking to future self for sure.
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One thing that I was thinking about talking about because I
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think it would be so interesting to talk about.
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Is. You and I are both recovering
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hustlers and overworkers. Oh my gosh.
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And I think like a lot of the people listening to this and
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that I work with are too. And honestly, like, I don't know
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how you feel, so it'd be interesting to ask you, but I
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don't notice this out of you anymore.
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And maybe it's that you, it's not that you don't overwork, but
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it's now you recognize it quicker and you pull back
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quicker. So I'm curious like for you, how
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are you feeling about your hustling, overworking your
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relationship with IT and all those things?
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So, so funny you brought this up because I have, it's like a tug
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of war within myself with this hustle culture.
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And the perfect example that I can give right now is studying
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from for my nurse practitioner boards.
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I had finished nurse practitioner school after like
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maybe 5-6 years of working full time, maybe 2 jobs doing 2
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master's degrees and NP school and clinical Nonstop nonstop
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nonstop for. Not Maybe you weren't doing all.
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Those things, I was, yeah, it's not, it's a fact for like 4
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years, five years. And it was just so tiring and,
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and now I'm at the point where I'm like, you know what, I
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finished my schooling in October and I'm like, this is prime time
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holidays. I'm like, I have a choice of
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just continuing to hustle for the next like month or couple
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months or so to study sports and takes, or I can just take a
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breather, take a break because my brain needs a break and enjoy
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time with my family and my friends that I really haven't
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had the chance to do in like 4 or five years, which is really
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sad actually. And I just chose myself.
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I chose to take a break. I chose to relax and, and, and
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just kind of let my mind rest and just be very present in the
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moment with myself, my family and my friends.
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And I just learned that there's always going to be a time to
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hustle. There's always going to be a
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time to get after what I want, but there's not going to be all
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the time in the world for family, for friends, for myself.
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Everything is so, you know, it can be cut short anytime.
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So that really to find what really matters in life for me, I
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guess at this point now is just like, I really just want to live
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in the moment with with what matters most to me.
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And that's family, friends and traveling and all kinds of fun
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stuff. So that kind of took a
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transition for me. But I still battle with it
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myself. I'm like, no, no, no, this is
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horrible. Like I really need to like do
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this now. Now.
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Now. Yeah, I need to do this for now
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mindset. It's just like, no, Rachel, you
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don't have to. It's OK.
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You're giving yourself a made-up timeline.
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It's an imaginary timeline. No one is ticking off A to do
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list for you besides yourself in your own head.
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There's no reason to make yourself sick all the time.
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I would get sick all the time. I remember that.
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I remember that. And that's like something that
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I've learned over the last year. And it like kind of sounds like
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it's similar to you is we work in this job where you have to
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make decisions on urgency. It's like you need to urgently
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make the decision because this will urgently save their life or
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whatever it is. And then for me, when I was at
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home, I would make decisions like that too.
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And then everything felt urgent, like I got to do this now.
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I got to make this decision now and now as I'm recovering from
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hustling and overworking, it's like when there's an urgent
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decision, then I know that I need to not make it.
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I know like that's me trying to hustle to like feeling.
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And the only reason why we do it is because we want to feel a
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certain way after we make it so we can clear it off our plate.
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Yeah, that's me. Yeah, yeah.
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So now I'm like, oh, this is this is this feels urgent.
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OK, well, I'm going to like pull back and not make the decision
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out of urgency. And that's when I'm like, OK, I
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don't need to make this right now.
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And, and and I tell myself like I'm physically pulling back.
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Yeah. And and I honestly, I feel the
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same way too. Like kind of taking a, a break
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from that hustle culture. It, it helped me take a step
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back and not make decisions out of impulsivity.
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Like, yeah, for example, put in my 4 weeks and like I can
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confidently say that I did not make that decision out of
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impulse, out of me wanting to just leave a really bad
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situation. And it just thought something I
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didn't think through first. I can honestly say I really
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thought through this and I'm like, this just no longer serves
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myself in the present self and it also will not serve future
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Rachel's self. So we're going to make changes
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on how we're going to do, like we're going to get after future
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Rachel's self. But it not being so impulsive
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and taking a step back from that sense of urgency all the time.
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I actually feel so good in my sensation.
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I was like, oh, I feel like a mature person.
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I actually think that's why you don't live in regret after you
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make big decisions like that. Yeah, I think before, before
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starting my my journey with you, I would make a lot, a lot more
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decisions out of impulse. Like, Oh my gosh, I'm so
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uncomfortable in situation. I don't care.
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I'm going to do this and think of the consequences later.
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And I would do that a lot. But after working with you for,
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for as long as I have been, I no longer feel like that.
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Like I, I now really take steps into fixing a situation or
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fixing my mindset and really, you know, thinking things
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through. And then I'm like, no, I'm going
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to make my decision. Not out of impulse, not out of
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wanting to get out of a situation, but I need to just
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what no longer serves me. Yeah, because if we do that,
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then we basically give all the power to the situation because
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we're like, oh, this situation's making me feel like this.
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If I keep changing situations, then I'm going to feel better.
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But it's really more power comes from if we can just change the
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way that we think about the situation, about the
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circumstances, get to a more neutral spot, then make the
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decision from there, then we know we're making a powerful
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decision because then it's based on what we truly want, not just
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trying to get out of a feeling. Or.
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Trying to think it's going to make it better.
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And that was exactly this decision.
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I'm like, wow, this was the first time that I really in a
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while that I really felt like I made the right choice.
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And it was, it's an, it's an amazing feeling, like it's like
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a weight off my shoulders rather than, OK, I made this, now I
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have to think of a Plan B and scurry around and now think of
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something to pick up the pieces with because I made an impulsive
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decision. Yeah, yeah.
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And I really think that that is the direct result of also giving
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your brain space and time to study for this NP exam.
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That was so necessary. I'm very, I'm very, very happy
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that I took the time because I, I'm like when I study for these
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boards, like I'm not just studying to pass an exam.
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I'm studying to take care of somebody's life.
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And, and to me like that, that deserves the time full time,
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full energy and, and just full just comprehension.
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Like I'm not just trying to pass a test.
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I'm really studying to try to treat a person and their life.
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Yeah. And I think that comes from just
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tapping into like, what do you really need?
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Like what are the spots and beliefs that you really need to
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be successful on this and giving yourself that space to do it?
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Yeah, I I can confidently say I do not regret taking that time
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to rest, to recover from hustle culture and to just be very to
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be present in the moment with my family and friends and for
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myself. And it was just probably the
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best decision. Yeah, something along this
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conversation that's like coming up for me too, is this is
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actually something I was talking to my coach about earlier today,
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is we create so much safety as doers and overworkers and
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overachievers in our work, in our profession.
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We're like this, this feels safe to do this.
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It feels good. It's like we get a dopamine hit
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off of like creating that type of work and like not hustling,
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but like really wanting and desiring our profession and what
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we do. And then it's almost like
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anything that we want to do with outside of our work, It's like
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we don't feel safe. Like we don't feel safe or give
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ourselves permission to take a full day off and maybe not do
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anything and maybe sit and watch TV all day or maybe allow
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ourselves to be bored or explore what our hobbies are.
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It's like almost like it's safe to be a professional and want
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all and desire this profession and all these things with it,
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but it maybe isn't as safe to give myself permission to be
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bored. Yeah, And for me, being bored
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was just the hardest. I remember there were the time
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I, I remember, Oh my gosh, we had a session one time.
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And I remember telling you I was so proud of myself because I
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took maybe like 20 minutes to paint my nails.
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Like instead of studying for an exam, like for the umpteenth
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time, I'm like, no, I just, I put my material away.
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I studied it for the past like 2 weeks and I'm like I finally
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just put it down and painted my nails for 20 minutes before I
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worked and I and that was like the biggest success of the month
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for me. Yeah, it's like creating that
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desire to want something else besides just our work.
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Yeah, I, I remember with being really stuck in whistle culture,
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I, I really forgot about things that that made me happy.
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And I remember having to write down in a journal things that
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made me happy, like throughout the days or I'm like, Oh yeah, I
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love, I remember, I love looking at art or I love looking at like
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certain things or, you know, this certain things that made me
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happy. And it took me a while to
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revisit those things again. And it just, it really made me
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sad. I'm like wow, like I really have
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to. Revisit myself.
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I lost myself within the hustle culture and when you really take
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a step back and and rediscover yourself, it's really profound.
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Yeah, yeah. And that, and that's kind of
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like where I am right now, where it's like I can have the desire,
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I can give myself permission to have the desire for the
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profession or the work that I'm doing.
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But now it's also like giving myself permission to desire
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other things too, Which right now it's like, you know, I've
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always had a profession or I've always worked full time with my
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kids. And now it's like shifting a
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little bit where I want to be spending more time with my kids
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and kind of, you know, desire that.
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Whereas I've always told myself, well, I like me working is
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showing them like an example of like what's possible, which I've
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loved that. But now, like what I want is
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kind of shifting and I'm wanting to desire to spend more time
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with them and it's finding safety in that cause safety for
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me was always getting to where I wanted to be professionally.
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Now it's like, OK, I need to find safety and desiring
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something different too. Yes, that's a big one too.
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Like now that you mentioned it, it's it's the same thing for me.
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Like, I guess I found I also found safety and getting the
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next degree or getting the next career type, you know, career
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stuff and everything. Like that was my safety for the
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longest. And now I guess, I guess I'm
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still trying to find my safety. And now that I've like, am
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breaking free from postal culture, like I'm still
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rediscovering myself and everything and getting used to
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not overworking myself. I still feel guilty.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah. This, this really feels weird.
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I should be doing some things, but now I can at least catch
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myself having those thoughts. I'm like no like it's OK to just
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sit down and brain rot like what this is.
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Fine. Yeah.
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So my question for you is like, how have now being on the other
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side of it? But you know, I think we're
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always going to have this tug and this pole because if it's
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like we are in high integrity of like what we want and it's it's
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changing that identity is difficult.
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So we meet resistance with it. But how for you?
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Like, I know people are listening and they're like, oh,
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yeah, yeah, that's me. I do that exact same thing when
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I'm thinking about work or I'm hustling or I'm doing something.
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But how would you say that you have cultivated getting out of
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that and cultivated finding what else you desire outside of it?
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Because I know we've coached on it a lot too.
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So maybe you could like explain to them maybe coaching concepts
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or anything that has helped you personally cultivate that?
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Honestly, a lot of it was was journaling.
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Like I remember journaling things that that made me happy
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or that was like, Oh yeah, this really sparked something in me.
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I remember just, you know, I, I, I was going through like a
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bookstore or something and I, and I read like a little poem
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and I was like, Oh yeah, I remember reading that when I was
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in high school. And I'm like, and that really
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brought me joy. I was like, wow, that really
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brought me joy. And it's like little tiny things
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like that. And I wrote it down in my
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journal and I'm like reminding myself.
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I'm like, Oh yeah, this is, these are the things that
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brought me joy. And then it just kind of
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snowballed into bigger things, bigger concepts of what brought
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me joy and kind of brought me back to like who I was.
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And I'm like to break that identity away from like hustle
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Rachel or critical care Rachel or CCT Rachel, NP Rachel, Lenny
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and whatever Rachel. I'm like, I just want to
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rediscover Rachel and these things in my journal.
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I'm like, yeah, these are these are also me, you know, And I
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remember we were going like going over these concepts
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together. And it's like just really
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rediscovering myself and what makes me happy.
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And, and also just sitting with. I guess at the time it was it
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was, it was feeling curious about being bored.
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Yeah. And, and doing something that,
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that brought me joy, I wasn't comfortable with that for the
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longest time. Like what do you mean just to
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sit here and do nothing? I can't just sit down and do
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not, I have an exam or I have a paper.
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I have, you know, whatever I'm like, I can't just sit and do
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nothing. And you're like, and we started
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at small intervals. It was like just take 5 minutes
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to sit down and and do nothing. Yeah, I remember that.
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Now as you're saying that, I remember asking you the question
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because I said I asked you like when we can get past this, no
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more being in school and you're done with your masters and you
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finally found that balance of not hustling anymore.
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What do you think that's going to feel like when you get to her
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and you're like peace and joy? I remember you saying that.
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And I remember saying we do not want to wait to get to her now.
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We want to wait till then. We want to get to her now.
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So how can you start cultivating peace and joy now and having
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that throughout the process of becoming her?
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And we started out with just being curious with boredom.
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Like if I just allow myself, we set the timer for 5 minutes and
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we're bored. Like how can we be curious about
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that? And then how can we just like
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cultivate peace and joy right now as you're going through the
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hard. Remember that?
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I remember actually putting on a timer for 5 minutes.
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Yeah, talking about that. I did.
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Oh my gosh. I had like a meditation app too.
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I still use it, but at the time it was like a 5 minute
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meditation app. And I would tell you like, yeah,
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I did my little meditation thing for 5 minutes.
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Yes. And just kind of like what I,
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what I, what that felt like for me at the time.
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And it felt great. It felt good.
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Yeah, yeah. And that is like the thought air
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most people have is like, I'm going to wait to feel that once
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I get there. And it's like, no, like, start
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cultivating that and feeling that now because it's not going
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to get better when you get there.
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That was that was a humongous concept for me, was that, oh, I,
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I will be happy once I get this degree.
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I will be calm and peaceful and happy once I get to where I want
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to be. But you showed me and you know
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that with this type of mindset and this type of hustle culture,
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I'm never going to be satisfied. There's always going to be the
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next thing to get the next thing to get after the next one, the
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next one, the next 1. So it's like, you know, if you
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where's, where is the, and where are you going to, where is the
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happiness and peace and, and everything that you want?
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If, if it's just an endless cycle.
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And that was so profound for me because I'm like, you know what?
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You're right. I'm like, I don't have to wait
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until I get all these things to be happy.
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I can be happy now. And here's a whole notebook list
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full of things that makes me happy and makes me happy now and
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brings me peace and joy. Why can't I just do that?
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Yeah, yeah. And I know that some people are
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thinking right now, well, how is it possible to think about the
27:42
future and enjoy the present at the same time?
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And I always say it's because you just allow yourself to, to
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navigate both and, and enjoy the journey of it, enjoy the
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becoming while also enjoying where you are and where you're
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going. It's like enjoying that both.
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I remember that too. I remember kind of like, I
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remember we, we were talking about this in one of our
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sessions too. And it was like that transition
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for me mentally to instead of being like, I have to like get
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this, I have to, you know, go through these exams to get by.
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And if you have to do this, I have to do that.
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It became a transition of like, no, we can not quite enjoy the
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process. It's not an enjoyable process,
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but at least be, you know, open and curious to, you know,
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transitioning is to like, here is here's my why and here's me
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like trying to be excited about it and join at least a little
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bit of this process. And that really helped me too.
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Instead of like trudging along and like, oh gosh, I have to
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like get this done to like, hey, I'm getting excited and pumped
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as to why I'm getting this done. Like I want to, you know, serve
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my patients and in a totally, you know, different manner and
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very excited about the knowledge that I'm getting.
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And I remember kind of like having that transition and
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getting really excited and seeing like, really that future,
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Rachel, when I was transitioning into like trudging my feet to
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like, Oh yeah. Wait, yeah, we can.
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We can low key kind at the same time.
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Yeah, yeah. And I always like tell people
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it's like you look back at the hardest moments and you think,
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man, that was such a good time. Like I think about when I first
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got married and we're so poor and we would eat rice and
29:33
chicken every night and have like 1 meal a day.
29:36
But I just, I would love to have those times back because things
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were so fun and it was a challenge.
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And it's like, I wish I would have enjoyed it more, you know?
29:45
And I think about that with nursing school too.
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It was so hard. And I tell nursing students,
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like, enjoy this time because you're never going to have that
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back. Yeah, Oh my gosh, you're right.
29:55
I remember in nursing school, like, having groups, like group
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study sessions with friends, and it was really fun.
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We'd have stacks and like, you know, quiz each other.
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I'm an NP school and I'm like studying by myself and like,
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man, I kind of wish I had that. But those are fun.
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Like, no, I'm just like, whatever, but that is done, you
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know, but. So good.
30:19
So I. Loved everything that we have
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talked about today. I think that this is so apparent
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to people who might be stuck kind of in this repeat cycle of
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like overworking and hustling. And here's the thing, like if
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you hustle and work to get there, you're going to keep
30:35
hustling and working to get to the next thing.
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And it's never going to be peace and enjoyment.
30:39
So I love. No definitely finding find your
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now. Even if it's 5 minutes worth of
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it. It's 5 minutes.
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It'll turn to 10/15/30. It'll become your lifestyle.
30:52
Yeah, yeah. And something else that we did
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work on too was like just growing the capacity to be the
30:56
person in that moment to take all those things on because you
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had to. You.
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Know and you and because you wanted to and it was like also
31:04
finding the choice and I chose this like I chose to do this
31:08
degree and I chose to do this next degree and I'm choosing
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this hard right now. Like I think when we give
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ourselves, when we put that back in like this is my choice.
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It gives us like so much power back too.
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I remember so many and I still say this.
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I'm like, Yep, I did this to myself.
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I chose this, but remembering my why?
31:29
And I'm like, yeah, let's get excited again.
31:30
And. Yeah, I love it.
31:33
Well, I know we talked about a lot of different topics today,
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but was there anything that you wanted to talk about or bring on
31:41
today that we didn't already cover or anything that you think
31:44
might be helpful to anybody listening over anything that
31:47
we've covered today? That's a that's a solid
31:52
question. I definitely, I definitely
31:56
really enjoyed that. We touched on the hustle culture
31:59
as a recovering hustle culture person well.
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I mean, I would say if there's someone in it who's thinking
32:04
about this, because I know there's people listening,
32:06
they're like, oh, this is me right now, but how?
32:09
Like, how do I get through it? Like maybe what is one piece of
32:12
advice you would give them for that?
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Oh man, you will. You will get through it for
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sure, 100%. But it it definitely, definitely
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think about your future self and really envision what your future
32:27
self looks like and what you want out of your future self.
32:32
And that would really help you get through the hard times.
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But and to also start just 5 minutes a day, just finding your
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joy, like just find yourself, even if it's just 5 minutes,
32:50
just find who you are. Like, it's so easy to lose
32:54
yourself, your identity and your job and your position in school
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and whatever that you're doing. But you know, even if it's just
33:05
5 minutes a day to to just rediscover who you truly are and
33:08
your own identity. Like that's so important.
33:12
Yeah. And I think like finding the
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desire to cultivate that and find it.
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Yeah, even just to be curious about it too.
33:18
Like I think curiosity is definitely the first step
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because I feel like, yeah, really thinking about it is like
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some for some people is a really big step for me that that was a
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big step. But it's you always start me off
33:35
with just being curious with something and that's more,
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that's more like palatable for me.
33:42
Like I can do that. Yeah, Like neutrality or
33:45
curiosity about it. What do you think would say
33:48
would be the result for you now being kind of on the other side
33:51
of it? Like I know it's still a push
33:52
and pull, but like, what do you think is the, what would you be
33:56
able to tell someone who's like, well, what's available to me on
33:58
the other side of this? Oh man, you get, you get like
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number one, I'm not as sick as much anymore.
34:06
Yeah, at all. Like I, I hardly get ill, which
34:10
is really nice. My stress levels have definitely
34:12
come down. My autoimmune issues have also
34:18
come down. What else?
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I'm I'm much happier and I have a lot more clarity in my
34:25
decisions. Like, I'm a lot less of an
34:27
impulsive person, and I feel like I can step into different
34:36
decisions a lot more confidently.
34:39
It was a lot more clarity. And I get to just enjoy my
34:44
moments. Like, I haven't had that in such
34:46
a long time. Like, yeah, I can actually go do
34:49
something fun or spend time with family, spend time with friends
34:53
and not feel guilty about it. And that's just an incredible
34:58
feeling to not feel guilty. Yeah.
35:02
Life is so much more enjoyable when you don't have a rain cloud
35:07
of guilt behind you all the time.
35:09
Yeah. And I think like for you, Step 1
35:12
was just allowing feeling the guilt because that's what the
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product of like just choosing for yourself and what you
35:17
desired it. It did come with guilt at first.
35:21
And then it was like as you allowed that to play out, then
35:23
it was like so much empowerment to like, OK, it's OK that I felt
35:27
guilty. Now I'm not starting to feel
35:29
guilty because it is really what I desire.
35:32
Yes, and it's also if that's too much of a big stop, it's it's I
35:37
remember for me it was just allowing guilt to take like the
35:40
passenger seat of the car and to not drive the car.
35:44
Like that was a big one for me. Like, you can still live with
35:46
the guilt, but you don't have to let it drive you.
35:51
Yeah. So good.
35:53
Yeah, that was a big one, too. That was a nice, nice small
35:57
step. But I still use that today so.
35:59
No, same same. Well, Rachel, thank you for
36:03
being on and being willing to be on after a long work day and and
36:06
week so far. I really appreciate having you
36:09
in this conversation about urgency and hustle culture.
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Like, I just think it's so relative in what's in healthcare
36:17
and most of the people who are listening.
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Absolutely, absolutely. Thank you so much for having me.
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I really enjoy it. And we're glad you'll be joining
36:26
us inside the shift, so we'll continue on there.
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Oh, it's so good, it's so good. It's so helpful.
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I love it. I love having you in there.
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OK, Rachel, we'll see you on the next call.
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Sounds good. Thank you so much.
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