Latest / Chatting with The Experts with Paula Okonneh / Transforming Pain to Purpose Part 1
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- 0:35Hello everyone, and welcome to another episode of chatting with the experts
- 0:41TV show hosted by me, Paula Okonneh.
- 0:45Every week I bring to you an incredible woman.
- 0:48A woman that fascinates me and I know you with her story.
- 0:54But even more so...
- 0:57she fascinates you by what she brings to the table.
- 1:01The mission of this show is to inspire, is to empower, and is to educate each one of
- 1:08you that tune in or listen, because I do have a podcast, and today is no exception.
- 1:18I have an incredible guest and I'll tell you a bit about her.
- 1:23Her name is Dr.
- 1:26Irene Olumese and she's an author, an inspirational speaker, she's a
- 1:32Bible study teacher and a certified faith informed professional
- 1:37transformational trauma coach.
- 1:40She is the founder and executive director of the Feet To grace Foundation.
- 1:48As the founder and executive director of the Feet To Grace Foundation,
- 1:52which is a charity organization that provides prosthetic rehabilitation
- 1:57services for amputees in Nigeria.
- 2:02Irene facilitates amputees emotional well-being and empowerment.
- 2:08She is the author of Grace In The Storm, a living proof, and she's
- 2:15driven by a desire to help people live victorious lives, irrespective
- 2:21of the storms they face, and to make their pain count as gain for others.
- 2:27Her book, fifty five chapters of God's grace is a compendium of God inspired
- 2:34lessons that Christians must imbibe to take full delivery of God's promises
- 2:40and manifest His purpose here on earth.
- 2:44Our topic is going to be Transforming Pain to Purpose, Power, and Profit.
- 2:53And with that, I welcome my guest, Dr.
- 2:58Irene Olumese
- 3:02thank you very much, Paula.
- 3:05Thank you.
- 3:05It's a pleasure and a honor to be with you this evening.
- 3:09Thank you.
- 3:10I am honored that you are my guest because you inspire me and that's
- 3:17one of the reasons I wanted to have you on because if you inspire
- 3:20me, I know you can inspire others.
- 3:25So, as you, my listeners and viewers, the topic is on Transforming
- 3:32Pain to Purpose Power and Pain.
- 3:35There's a reason that we have that as the topic.
- 3:38So I'm going to ask Irene, if she's willing to share her story with us.
- 3:46Okay.
- 3:48Yes, of course.
- 3:49And thank you once again, Paula.
- 3:51I will try to do a mother of all summary of my story.
- 3:56I'm a lung transplant survivor and a bilateral amputee now.
- 4:02How did we get to that?
- 4:04So, I lived for 20 years with a chronic respiratory disease
- 4:07called myasthenia gravis.
- 4:09Mm-Hmm.
- 4:09Uh, sorry, . I lived with a chronic respiratory disease
- 4:15called bronch metastasis and a debilitating neuromuscular
- 4:19disease called myasthenia gravis.
- 4:22And we got the indication that something was wrong at 1993, when I started coughing
- 4:28and fast forward to June, 1993, I had to have the first surgery on my lungs and
- 4:35my chest tracheotomy and fist assist.
- 4:39The size of my fist was sticking out from between my heart and my lungs.
- 4:44And we thought that was the end of the story, but no, that just opened up a
- 4:49new, a complex syndrome that kept me coughing nonstop for the next 20 years.
- 4:57Oh my word.
- 4:57I mean, it was literally coughing every day and with everything
- 5:03else that came with it.
- 5:05We did not quite know what we were dealing with.
- 5:09What was all of this?
- 5:10I got a diagnosis in 1997 when my doctors actually gave a name to it in UCH
- 5:17Nigeria, and I needed a second opinion, so I went to Ohio Medical Center in U.
- 5:21S., and I got a second opinion, and it was exactly what my doctors in Nigeria
- 5:26had told me, and the added information was that depending on the progression
- 5:32of the two combined diseases that I may end up in the wheelchair within
- 5:35the next five years, unable to do my basic daily care, even of myself.
- 5:41But in the midst of all of this, I had two sons.
- 5:45I also completed my doctorate and I was working with an
- 5:48international organization.
- 5:50And so when we got this diagnosis all my friends asked me, you need
- 5:54to stay back in the United States.
- 5:56And I said, no, not without my family, I have good job.
- 5:59I have medical insurance.
- 6:00I get my medications and I'm going back home.
- 6:03And that was exactly what I did, because for me I did not want this
- 6:07situation to redefine my identity.
- 6:10Or to define how we're going to live as a family.
- 6:13And I was not ready to be in any country where I couldn't have my family with me.
- 6:18I had two young sons.
- 6:20And so I went back home to Nigeria at that time and continued working.
- 6:26And in 2001, I got an international appointment with my organization
- 6:31and I was transferred to Ghana.
- 6:34And while I was working in Ghana, another region of Ghana that lungs collapsed.
- 6:40And so I was in a place where there was no medical facilities to take care of
- 6:44me and I could not be flown anywhere because of the state of my lungs.
- 6:50And so, my organization tried to get me to Burkina Faso, which is five hours drive.
- 6:55They said, no, don't bring her because we don't have facility to take care of her.
- 7:00So they put me in an ambulance.
- 7:02No oxygen, no air conditioner, 10 and a half hours from Tamale to Accra.
- 7:11It's still a miracle how I made it alive.
- 7:15And after spending about six weeks in a hospital in Accra, having the poor
- 7:20effusion drained and all of that, I had a tube inserted in my, on my side and
- 7:26things were not making any difference.
- 7:28I had to be medevacked to Switzerland.
- 7:30My husband was already working here with WHO and it just made sense
- 7:34that I should be brought here.
- 7:36And so I came here in 2003, exactly 10 years after the first surgery and
- 7:41had the second surgery on my lungs.
- 7:44At this time, I was in a managerial position in my organization and I was
- 7:51looking at breaking into management and it wasn't quote unquote an ideal
- 7:57time for a woman, a professional woman to be coming out of work.
- 8:01And I thought I'd always run with this policy that a woman has a multiple
- 8:07role of reproduction and production.
- 8:10And she should be able to manage both.
- 8:12And she should have an enabling environment to manage both.
- 8:15I should not have to sacrifice one for the other.
- 8:18But at this point in my life, I had to make a critical life changing decision
- 8:23to come out of work, to take care of myself and relocate my children
- 8:27to Switzerland and settle them here.
- 8:29And it was now not only having to deal with my medical situation, I
- 8:34also had to deal with significant financial challenges as well.
- 8:38Yes,
- 8:38I think that we had made plans on the basis of our two salaries.
- 8:43We bought a house, took a mortgage, took a loan to pay the 20 percent that is
- 8:48required by Switzerland, which you have to bring from outside as a foreigner.
- 8:52And all of this was happening in the midst of raising my
- 8:56young boys, managing my house.
- 9:00And just try to find a balance, where do I go from here?
- 9:05I had put so much into my career, it was a dream career,
- 9:08and I really wanted to excel.
- 9:11And I knew I was doing a real good job, but where do I go from here?
- 9:17Well, I came out of work and spent the next couple, three years literally, having
- 9:24hot palpitations at the end of each month, you know, when the bill starts running in.
- 9:31So the financial challenges was really intense.
- 9:34I mean, it was as bad as the bank declaring my account delinquent because
- 9:40I couldn't make my payment as it was due.
- 9:43I mean, I did everything that I could possibly do.
- 9:46I sold salad masterparts.
- 9:49I tried Hubble Live.
- 9:51I tried Mirka.
- 9:52I mean, just to keep something coming in.
- 9:56Because it was huge bill.
- 9:58We had huge bills coming in.
- 10:00Yes.
- 10:01I fast forward to three years later, 2006.
- 10:05Uh, got provoked a recommendation for me and I was recommended
- 10:09for a position in Cairo.
- 10:12So I packed my bags.
- 10:13Yes.
- 10:13In Cairo, in Egypt.
- 10:15Okay.
- 10:15Packed my bags, left my sons here in Switzerland and went to Cairo.
- 10:21What I was doing was to come home one long weekend every month to, check in on the
- 10:26family and make sure they're doing great.
- 10:29And did that for a year.
- 10:32And then again, I had another relapse in my lungs
- 10:35while you were in Cairo?
- 10:37While I was in Cairo,
- 10:38woah.
- 10:38While I was in Cairo, I was actually flying back into Switzerland
- 10:43for my usual one long weekend.
- 10:45And it became very difficult to breathe mid air.
- 10:48And as soon as we landed, I had to be taken straight to the hospital.
- 10:52And then my doctors told me that my lungs were no longer holding
- 10:58sufficient air to give me the amount of oxygen that I needed.
- 11:03So my oxygen saturation was incredibly low.
- 11:07And for them, the only solution was for me to be on oxygen
- 11:10supplementation, 24 hours a day.
- 11:13They were like, okay, how are we going to operationalize this?
- 11:17I have a job to finish in Cairo.
- 11:20I mean, they looked at me and said, are you crazy?
- 11:23What are you talking about here?
- 11:24For me, it's I have a life to live one.
- 11:27And two, I have a policy of when I start something, I need to finish it.
- 11:34Because, I mean, that's something that I've been struggling with all my life.
- 11:38Not having uncompleted projects.
- 11:40And it was also a strategic project I was working on.
- 11:45I couldn't just walk out of it.
- 11:48And it was one that has also been incredibly challenged.
- 11:52And as a Christian, I believe that he who set his hands on the plow and look back
- 11:56is not fit for the Kingdom of God, that one side too, and a Christian and the
- 12:02only Christian in that group, you know, leading that that team and the interesting
- 12:08thing is that all the focus for us.
- 12:10Leading that project, I as an international officer and two other
- 12:15uh, three national office specialists, all of us had significant life
- 12:21threatening challenges in that season.
- 12:24Wow.
- 12:24Oh my God.
- 12:25So for me, it was no longer this was not just
- 12:30natural.
- 12:31Something else was at play.
- 12:33I mean, how could the four of fours, excuse me, How come that
- 12:38one had a fire outbreak at home and sustained a secondary degree burn.
- 12:44One had an accident and broke a limb.
- 12:46And another, you know, an elderly lady who two sisters live
- 12:51together, one died and they've been living together all their lives.
- 12:54And I couldn't come back from Switzerland.
- 12:57So for me, there was more at play.
- 12:59And I had to bring in my Christian perspective here and also had
- 13:04a conversation with my doctors.
- 13:06Look, I need, even if I'm not going to continue to work in Cairo.
- 13:10I must finish this project.
- 13:11I must see it to a logical conclusion.
- 13:14What you need to tell me is what do I have to do to make this happen.
- 13:19But not going back to Cairo to finish is not one of the
- 13:22options I was ready to take.
- 13:24So my doctors looked at me and they definitely thought this woman has lost it.
- 13:31Yes.
- 13:35One of them is an elderly professor and he said to me, look, our
- 13:40treatment that when we relate to the patient, it's always holistic.
- 13:44We know you, we know your passion, we know the way you work and the high
- 13:49premium you put on your profession.
- 13:51We will give you the conditions.
- 13:54And if you can meet all these conditions, we'll allow you to go back and finish
- 13:57and say, give me the conditions.
- 13:59One, I was to have oxygen in my office, oxygen cylinder in my office.
- 14:03Two, I was to have an oxygen cylinder or concentrator in my apartment.
- 14:09Three, I have to have a mobile.
- 14:11And then, there was not a lot of options.
- 14:13And so there was this little canister that I could just spray
- 14:17on, you know, to give me oxygen.
- 14:20And so I, they gave me the three conditions.
- 14:22I sent a message to my friends in back in Cairo to my office
- 14:25that this is my situation.
- 14:27The office agreed for me to have, because I had to have a permission for that.
- 14:31The office agreed for me to have an oxygen canister and a cylinder in the office.
- 14:36And my friend said, look, we're not going to let you stay alone.
- 14:39We will get the oxygen concentrator.
- 14:42We're moving it into our apartment, our own home.
- 14:44And they moved me into their home.
- 14:49It was just, they were just strategically located there to be God's hand supporting
- 14:54me in that challenging season of my life.
- 14:56And they put their driver and car at my disposal.
- 15:00So I could go to work in the morning with my canister sprayed on.
- 15:04I get into the office, I link with my candelor, and I was running my
- 15:09work under the circumstances with literally walking around the clock.
- 15:14And to the glory of God, we were able to complete that
- 15:18project in about seven weeks.
- 15:21And I recall that when we prepared the presentation to the government.
- 15:26Because I'm an international partner supporting the first presentation has
- 15:31to be made by the national partner.
- 15:33So there are two of us lead, and then the supporting specialist.
- 15:38And when the lady, the national coordinator was going to make a
- 15:41presentation, and she said something that has remained with me till today.
- 15:47She said it was by the grace of God and the perseverance of Irene that we
- 15:53have been able to finish this project.
- 15:56And I'm sitting down there and I'm stunned, and all I could say is that
- 16:04God, there is a purpose for this.
- 16:08I don't know why we have to go through all of this, but this is good to leave
- 16:12a lasting impression of this woman, and I pray that will be the turning
- 16:17point for her to become a Christian.
- 16:20And we made the presentation, I made mine, it was applauded, it was well
- 16:24received, submitted the report, I packed my bags at the end of 2007.
- 16:30January 2008, I returned back to Geneva and now I'm coming
- 16:38back to a snow blank agenda.
- 16:44All I had as to take care of myself, nebulize, medicate, respirate.
- 16:54That was it.
- 16:55Just medicating and nebulizing to keep my chest free.
- 16:59And I was doing all of this.
- 17:02All the way to to that towards the end of 2008, I was really bad and I ended up
- 17:07in the ICU and I just couldn't even, I didn't know how we made it through that.
- 17:14Fast forward to and that was too much for me.
- 17:22That was too much.
- 17:24How do you pray?
- 17:27How do you pray?
- 17:28What do you do?
- 17:32And the interesting thing was that this is the same doctor who's been managing
- 17:35me since I got into Switzerland.
- 17:38And he's just been strategically located at the right place at
- 17:42the right time to push my case.
- 17:44He told us that he actually had presented me for lung transplant in
- 17:482008, and it was thrown out that I had complicated medical history, and
- 17:57they raised tons of questions, and he spent two years going from one
- 18:03respiratory conference to another.
- 18:07Presented my case to get an answer to those questions and it was after
- 18:10he had done that and represented my case that he informed us.
- 18:15So he had done a lot of work on my behalf that we had no clue about.
- 18:22And of course we had to go through the whole Walk up to, to see
- 18:26if I was a suitable candidate.
- 18:29Now, it has to the way Switzerland work, this is specialized center for each
- 18:34different kind of transplant, and the doctors in the other hospital, we're
- 18:39not impressed with my history and didn't think I could be a suitable candidate.
- 18:45So now I had this battle to fight a, well, not me fighting.
- 18:50My doctor's fighting to justify why I should be on a waiting list.
- 18:56No, for saying you didn't think you were a suitable candidate.
- 18:59Did they think that you weren't going to make the surgery?
- 19:03What was the reason?
- 19:04That said that I've had too too many surgeries on my chest.
- 19:08And the fear that there will be attrition.
- 19:12The fear that the process of taking out the old lungs if there is an adhesion,
- 19:17I will bleed to death on the table.
- 19:19And well, that was the main reason they gave me, I don't know what
- 19:23else was going on behind their mind.
- 19:25But it was a struggle because the way that was delivered through really,
- 19:30you know, stripped me of hope, but I refused to give up on hope and
- 19:35I refused to give up on the fight.
- 19:37So my doctors were fighting for me and I was fighting as well.
- 19:41And so I got on the waiting list and waited three years.
- 19:45That's from 2000 and.
- 19:47From 2010 to 2013.
- 19:51And then January, 2013.
- 19:53You know, every time my friends called me, we had a group of
- 19:56friends who were praying along.
- 19:58We just, as soon as I got on the waiting list, we just called up a few friends and
- 20:02told them, this is what we are facing.
- 20:04And we needed them to pray along with us.
- 20:06And all we were asking them to pray is for God to keep me alive until
- 20:11a suitable candidate is found for me, because I simply could not
- 20:16pray that somebody should die.
- 20:18And while I was struggling with that, God led me to Isaiah 43, and it was
- 20:24like because you're precious to me, and I love you, I give Egypt for your
- 20:29ransom and Seba for your sake, and I give men in exchange for your life.
- 20:36When I read that, I mean, if floored me, this is how precious I am to God
- 20:43that he's willing to give a life for me.
- 20:46And so my only prayers throughout that period was that the person who is going to
- 20:51be the candidate that's going to provide me with the lungs that will keep me alive
- 20:56will also be a candidate for heaven.