Latest / The Bootleg Kev Podcast / #693 - P-Lo Talks Drake’s “Iceman” Placement, Out The Box, Mac Dre, E-40 & Possible HBK Reunion 👀
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- 0:48Speaker 2: We got a special guest in here. His new album,
- 0:50Speaker 2: Out the Box, just dropped.
- 0:52Speaker 3: Yeah.
- 0:52Speaker 2: Just like his balls.
- 0:54Speaker 3: Yep.
- 0:54Speaker 2: Exactly. Friend of the show, P-Lo.
- 0:58Speaker 3: Come on. Come on. Return, return guest. Return guest.
- 1:02Speaker 2: Yeah, multiple times.
- 1:03Speaker 3: Multiple times.
- 1:04Speaker 2: Okay, so this album, to me, is your best body
- 1:06Speaker 2: of work that you've ever released.
- 1:08Speaker 3: Oh, wow, thank you.
- 1:09Speaker 2: I feel like you got the most range on this album.
- 1:11Speaker 3: Thank you, thank you, man.
- 1:11Speaker 2: Is this why it's called Out the Box? You want
- 1:13Speaker 2: to show people, like, I know, because you know people
- 1:15Speaker 2: put you in the pillow box.
- 1:16Speaker 3: Yes, for sure. Yeah, and that was kind of, you know,
- 1:21Speaker 3: what I wanted to show, like, you know, getting out
- 1:24Speaker 3: the box of what people think of me, and also.
- 1:26Speaker 2: But by the way, there's some good pillow shit on there, too. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
- 1:28Speaker 3: You know. But also, yeah, even for me, getting out
- 1:31Speaker 3: the box of what I think of myself.
- 1:33Speaker 1: Right.
- 1:34Speaker 3: So that was, like, the whole kind of like.
- 1:35Speaker 2: Well, what do you think of yourself? That's deep.
- 1:37Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah. Yeah, it's like, man, I feel like I'm
- 1:39Speaker 3: limitless now.
- 1:41Speaker 2: But what did you think of yourself before?
- 1:43Speaker 3: Like, shit, I don't know. Like, I feel like.
- 1:46Speaker 2: Did you be, like, down on yourself?
- 1:47Speaker 3: No, no, no, no, no. No. Not just, like, that
- 1:50Speaker 3: I could only, like, do this. You feel me? This
- 1:53Speaker 3: certain thing.
- 1:54Speaker 2: Right, right, right.
- 1:54Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying? But it's, like, more so, like, doing... everything,
- 1:58Speaker 3: you know, doing everything that I fuck with.
- 2:00Speaker 2: Do you feel like, um, did you, cause obviously we like,
- 2:03Speaker 2: obviously we know what you were influenced by growing up.
- 2:04Speaker 2: You have a Mac Dre tattoo.
- 2:05Speaker 1: Yeah. But was there like a side of you that
- 2:07Speaker 1: was also kind of like into any other like sub
- 2:11Speaker 1: genres of hip hop that why we might be surprised by? Like,
- 2:14Speaker 1: were you listening to fucking any Wu Tang or anything
- 2:15Speaker 1: crazy like that?
- 2:16Speaker 3: Um, I mean, bro, I mean, uh, I definitely loved
- 2:19Speaker 3: like little brother.
- 2:21Speaker 2: Shit. I love the minstrel shows.
- 2:23Speaker 3: Minstrel shows. Fucking classic.
- 2:25Speaker 2: The listening's my shit, but the minstrel show's the one.
- 2:28Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, yeah, like, but also, like, yeah, like, even, like,
- 2:31Speaker 3: Andre Nicotino.
- 2:33Speaker 2: Who was obviously incredible with the bars out of the bay. Yeah.
- 2:37Speaker 2: Don't get enough love, either. Let me tell you, I'm
- 2:39Speaker 2: a rude host. My phone is off. There you go.
- 2:43Speaker 2: There you go. But, yeah. Yeah.
- 2:45Speaker 3: But, like, I mean, like, yeah, like, I mean, I
- 2:48Speaker 3: love everything.
- 2:49Speaker 2: Obviously, the high-row shit was cracking.
- 2:50Speaker 3: The high-row shit.
- 2:51Speaker 2: Dell.
- 2:51Speaker 3: Dell, like, yeah. Man, it's crazy. I just, I was
- 2:54Speaker 3: just with Dan, the automator guy. not too long ago. And, um,
- 2:58Speaker 3: I actually like did a verse on, on Adele song.
- 3:00Speaker 3: So really, yeah.
- 3:01Speaker 2: Are they working on a new album together?
- 3:03Speaker 3: Who knows?
- 3:04Speaker 2: Shout out to this guy coming on here and spilling
- 3:06Speaker 2: the beans.
- 3:07Speaker 3: Shout out Dan. I made her man. That's my, that's
- 3:09Speaker 3: my guy. But yeah, he's a legend legend for sure.
- 3:12Speaker 2: Um, man, talk to me.
- 3:13Speaker 1: Cause I feel like, uh, you have been on like
- 3:17Speaker 1: a pretty underrated run in terms of just like being
- 3:21Speaker 1: very relevant.
- 3:22Speaker 2: Always kind of having a slap every year to like,
- 3:25Speaker 2: How do you kind of.
- 3:26Speaker 1: Like, because at this point, you're kind of, like, you
- 3:28Speaker 1: went from being, like, the.
- 3:31Speaker 2: Young and out of the bay, and now you're, like,
- 3:33Speaker 2: an OG.
- 3:34Speaker 3: Yeah. I mean, I'll fuck with that. Like, you know,
- 3:36Speaker 3: I love that. Like, I mean, I think.
- 3:39Speaker 1: Because, like, the Going to Work record was, like, what, 2014?
- 3:41Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, around there. Around there. I mean, you were
- 3:44Speaker 3: one of the first people on that.
- 3:46Speaker 2: That was my shit, dog.
- 3:47Speaker 3: Yeah, you were the one of the first people.
- 3:48Speaker 2: What was the album called when you were, like, a
- 3:50Speaker 2: baby on that?
- 3:50Speaker 3: More Bitches, More Gold Chains.
- 3:51Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 3:52Speaker 3: Yeah, you were one of the first people supporting that.
- 3:55Speaker 2: Shout out to the whole HBK, man.
- 3:56Speaker 3: Yeah, shout out to the whole gang, man. But, yeah, like,
- 4:00Speaker 3: I mean, to me it's, like, it's a blessing, like,
- 4:03Speaker 3: to be able to still be rocking. Because, like, I
- 4:06Speaker 3: feel like there's a lot of people that, you know,
- 4:09Speaker 3: that was, like, doing music when I first started. Like,
- 4:13Speaker 3: you know, they're not necessarily doing that. So for me to, like,
- 4:18Speaker 3: still be here and still be, you know, just– in
- 4:22Speaker 3: some type of conversation it's to me it's.
- 4:25Speaker 1: Do you see yourself as an OG now because I
- 4:27Speaker 1: feel like sometimes it's hard to be self-aware like.
- 4:29Speaker 3: No I yeah like I mean I feel like I've
- 4:32Speaker 3: just I've been in it you know.
- 4:33Speaker 2: Yeah you're living it so it's like you don't really
- 4:35Speaker 2: I wonder if like you ever reflect like damn I've
- 4:37Speaker 2: been really.
- 4:38Speaker 3: No I mean I don't know 13 years yeah no
- 4:40Speaker 3: I definitely be like damn man you know it's like
- 4:42Speaker 3: really been in this shit for hella long and um
- 4:46Speaker 3: now like uh I feel like I feel, I wouldn't say, like,
- 4:51Speaker 3: I know a lot, like, I know everything, but, like,
- 4:53Speaker 3: you feel me? I've experienced some things. So, like, now
- 4:56Speaker 3: I could be able to, like, share my experiences with,
- 5:00Speaker 3: you know, the people that are coming up in the
- 5:02Speaker 3: next generation and helping them move in a certain direction and,
- 5:06Speaker 3: you know, just helping them out.
- 5:07Speaker 2: For sure.
- 5:08Speaker 1: Do you, because this record on here, with Killer Mike
- 5:13Speaker 1: fucking hater record yeah shout out Killer Mike it is
- 5:15Speaker 1: a very like un-pilo type of record yes.
- 5:18Speaker 2: The beat is it's like I don't want to say
- 5:20Speaker 2: boom bap but it's boom bap-ish it's very very it's
- 5:23Speaker 2: like a hard joint like a hard rap joint yeah yeah.
- 5:25Speaker 1: Was that like do you make that record and then
- 5:28Speaker 1: send it to Killer Mike because I feel like I'd
- 5:30Speaker 1: be a little intimidated to like get on a record
- 5:32Speaker 1: with Killer Mike just because he's like one of the
- 5:34Speaker 1: greatest of.
- 5:34Speaker 3: All time no for sure definitely one of the greatest
- 5:36Speaker 3: of all time yeah like it was just like it
- 5:39Speaker 3: was like a I just create you feel me like
- 5:42Speaker 3: I don't necessarily, like, be like, oh, I wanted to
- 5:45Speaker 3: do this song with Killer Mike. Like, I was like, oh,
- 5:46Speaker 3: I was just, like, creating. I was just making shit.
- 5:48Speaker 3: And I was like, oh, damn.
- 5:49Speaker 2: You might sound good on this.
- 5:50Speaker 3: I was like, oh, the Killer Mike might go crazy
- 5:51Speaker 3: on this. And then, you know, he sent it over.
- 5:53Speaker 3: He came to the studio and, like, knocked it out.
- 5:55Speaker 1: You guys have mutual people. So it's, like, almost like
- 5:57Speaker 1: the record has to find you. It's like, yo, when
- 6:00Speaker 1: you hear it, you're like, oh, yo, this is the one.
- 6:02Speaker 2: It makes sense.
- 6:02Speaker 3: Yeah, it makes sense.
- 6:03Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 6:03Speaker 3: And, you know, I've known Mike for a hell of
- 6:07Speaker 3: a long. You know what I'm saying?
- 6:08Speaker 2: So, like.
- 6:09Speaker 3: And I feel like I really love that song, too. So, like,
- 6:12Speaker 3: I wanted to, like, somehow, like, get him on something
- 6:15Speaker 3: for this album, too. And I feel like that was
- 6:17Speaker 3: something that people necessarily didn't expect. So that's even, you know,
- 6:21Speaker 3: that's out the box, you know, in itself.
- 6:24Speaker 2: On this album, you have a certain era of Bay
- 6:27Speaker 2: Area and a little, I mean, kind of a couple of,
- 6:29Speaker 2: I mean, like, definitely like three or four eras.
- 6:31Speaker 3: Of Bay Area music.
- 6:32Speaker 2: But you were able to put Cray Sean on something.
- 6:36Speaker 2: And we haven't heard from Cray Sean in a while.
- 6:37Speaker 3: Yeah, man, shout out to Cray. Cray's a legend. Like,
- 6:43Speaker 3: even that, like, that was, like, just a song, like,
- 6:46Speaker 3: I created. And then, like, I had the hook, and
- 6:51Speaker 3: I had my verse, and I was like, man, Cray would, like,
- 6:55Speaker 3: sound super dope on the hook. Like, just, like, kind of, like,
- 6:58Speaker 3: as in, she's, like, I used her kind of, like,
- 7:00Speaker 3: as a, like, a texture. Right. More so. And, like,
- 7:05Speaker 3: her voice just sounds hella, like, dope like her voice
- 7:09Speaker 3: in general is just hella tight and i and i
- 7:12Speaker 3: think what she's like done for like i think people
- 7:16Speaker 3: don't necessarily give her credit for a lot i met
- 7:19Speaker 3: her and she was the video person for bobby brackens yeah.
- 7:23Speaker 1: So she was shooting the young and hungover tour with
- 7:26Speaker 1: bobby brackens and yg and ty dollas and she was
- 7:29Speaker 1: like the videographer and then like two years later she
- 7:31Speaker 1: she had the She fucking.
- 7:32Speaker 3: Yeah, like, you know, and then she was, like, one
- 7:34Speaker 3: of those first, like, viral, viral.
- 7:37Speaker 1: For sure.
- 7:38Speaker 3: Like, and, like.
- 7:39Speaker 2: Yeah, like, if TikTok was around back then, oh, fuck,
- 7:41Speaker 2: forget about it.
- 7:42Speaker 3: Yeah, she had, like, she was, she's, like, the, you know,
- 7:44Speaker 3: the big, I mean, even when she did go off,
- 7:48Speaker 3: she was, like, the biggest thing, you know?
- 7:49Speaker 2: 100%, yeah.
- 7:49Speaker 3: So, like, she was, like, I feel like a lot
- 7:51Speaker 3: of people don't give her the credit for, like, that, like,
- 7:55Speaker 3: internet kind of, like, blog era that she kind of, like, jump-started,
- 8:01Speaker 3: you know?
- 8:02Speaker 2: You have, like, two of the biggest crews right now.
- 8:04Speaker 1: I mean, obviously, SOBRB is one of the most legendary
- 8:06Speaker 1: groups out of the West Coast, let alone the Bay,
- 8:08Speaker 1: but you put them on with One Umbrella, which is, like,
- 8:11Speaker 1: the new posse group that, you know, everybody's a part of.
- 8:15Speaker 1: Shout out to the Empire gang.
- 8:16Speaker 3: Yes, yes. Shout out to Umbrella.
- 8:17Speaker 1: I feel like Ghazi constructed that thing in a lab, like, in, like,
- 8:22Speaker 1: in the Mission District in San Francisco while eating a pupusa.
- 8:26Speaker 2: You know, for sure.
- 8:27Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, yeah, like, I mean, like, all those
- 8:29Speaker 3: guys have, you know, they're all established.
- 8:33Speaker 2: No, great solo artists on their own.
- 8:35Speaker 3: Yeah, great solo artists on their own, but I feel
- 8:37Speaker 3: like people, like, loved what, what they represented and, like,
- 8:42Speaker 3: them just coming together and doing something, you know, doing
- 8:46Speaker 3: something dope and showing unity and I think everybody can
- 8:50Speaker 3: fuck with that. Right. You know, and, you know, I've
- 8:53Speaker 3: worked with all, all with those guys, like, individually and
- 8:56Speaker 3: I think, um, for the moment that they're having and, like,
- 9:01Speaker 3: I wanted to And then S.O.B., like, reuniting. I wanted
- 9:04Speaker 3: to do something, you know, uniting everyone. So that's really
- 9:08Speaker 3: how that song came about.
- 9:09Speaker 2: The way I look at it is if S.O.B., RBE
- 9:11Speaker 2: can reunite, right, and do these shows.
- 9:13Speaker 1: And, dude, they got a new record out. They got
- 9:15Speaker 1: a new album on the way. Everyone's getting along.
- 9:17Speaker 2: Yeah. I mean, I.M. Suze on this album. Yes, of course.
- 9:22Speaker 1: Why don't you guys do, like, a HBK gang, like,
- 9:24Speaker 1: reunion show album?
- 9:27Speaker 3: Man, who says... Oh, it's in the works. Who says
- 9:30Speaker 3: it's not happening?
- 9:32Speaker 2: Hey, it's in the works.
- 9:33Speaker 3: Who says it's not happening?
- 9:34Speaker 2: I see that shitty grin on that couch over there.
- 9:37Speaker 3: Who says it's not happening?
- 9:38Speaker 2: Oh, it is happening. Your answer just told me it's happening.
- 9:41Speaker 2: I don't know.
- 9:41Speaker 3: Who knows? Who knows?
- 9:43Speaker 2: Is it easy to figure that out? It's like, okay,
- 9:45Speaker 2: obviously you and Cool John have fucking just an amazing
- 9:49Speaker 2: track record together. So Cool John's in. Yeah. I am Susan.
- 9:53Speaker 2: He says I'm fishing. I am fishing.
- 9:56Speaker 1: Hypothetically speaking, would Kehlani be the hardest person to get
- 9:59Speaker 1: a hook from?
- 10:00Speaker 2: For the HBK reunion album?
- 10:01Speaker 1: I mean.
- 10:03Speaker 3: There's a guy that we know. That we both know.
- 10:05Speaker 2: David Ali.
- 10:07Speaker 3: We know him.
- 10:07Speaker 2: He started with you guys.
- 10:09Speaker 3: We know him.
- 10:10Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
- 10:11Speaker 3: We know him.
- 10:12Speaker 2: Wow.
- 10:12Speaker 3: We know him.
- 10:13Speaker 1: I just want you to know, if you guys did
- 10:15Speaker 1: that and then paired it with bringing back one of
- 10:18Speaker 1: the concerts in the Bay, it would go crazy.
- 10:22Speaker 2: And then you could do the vinyl.
- 10:25Speaker 4: Wow Forget about it Someone tell Will Bronson Someone take
- 10:30Speaker 4: fucking notes.
- 10:31Speaker 2: Tell him we have low hanging fruit over.
- 10:33Speaker 3: Here Low hanging fruit is still fruit Yeah it is
- 10:37Speaker 3: That'd be awesome Low hanging fruit is still fruit.
- 10:41Speaker 1: Let's be honest though In a world in which that
- 10:45Speaker 1: could happen What would be the biggest I'm sure you
- 10:48Speaker 1: guys already got over this Because it is happening But
- 10:50Speaker 1: what was the biggest, like, hurdle to get over to make,
- 10:53Speaker 1: to bring a lot of people together, you know?
- 10:57Speaker 3: I mean, I think just life in general. Like, everyone's got, like,
- 11:00Speaker 3: hella shit going on.
- 11:01Speaker 2: Right.
- 11:01Speaker 3: You know, like, with their own careers and their own
- 11:04Speaker 3: personal things. Like, even someone like Kehlani. She's, like, fucking.
- 11:07Speaker 2: I mean, this is.
- 11:08Speaker 3: Like, I just seen Kehlani. She just sold out Barclays.
- 11:12Speaker 2: Yeah, it's crazy.
- 11:12Speaker 3: Like, it's fucking nuts.
- 11:14Speaker 2: I think the first time I met Kehlani, she opened
- 11:15Speaker 2: up for G-Eazy. Yeah. Which was... You know, a time. Yeah, yeah.
- 11:19Speaker 3: A time.
- 11:19Speaker 2: I feel like everybody from the Bay ever has opened
- 11:22Speaker 2: up for G. 1000%.
- 11:23Speaker 3: Shout out to G, man. Go get his new record, too, man.
- 11:27Speaker 2: He got a new song out, right? Go get that.
- 11:29Speaker 2: It's black and white?
- 11:29Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah.
- 11:30Speaker 2: Looks like some vintage, you.
- 11:31Speaker 3: Know, Gerald? Yeah, we helped produce that, man. Big slide.
- 11:35Speaker 2: Did you make the beat? Yeah. Well.
- 11:37Speaker 3: Me, Nick Nack, and Kenny, man. I heard Nick's doing
- 11:41Speaker 3: a lot.
- 11:42Speaker 2: I think is Nick doing most of the G shit?
- 11:43Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, yeah. He's doing pretty much the whole Nick's project.
- 11:47Speaker 2: Nice, nice.
- 11:48Speaker 3: So pretty much me and Nick partnered, and we started
- 11:52Speaker 3: our own publishing company.
- 11:53Speaker 2: Was it called Big Slide?
- 11:54Speaker 3: Big Slide. Big Slide Publishing.
- 11:56Speaker 2: Wow. When's the last time you went down a slide?
- 11:58Speaker 3: We go down the slide every night. Every day.
- 12:03Speaker 2: You have a slide at your house? No, no, no.
- 12:04Speaker 2: It's like one of those things where you built a
- 12:05Speaker 2: slide from upstairs to downstairs?
- 12:07Speaker 3: No, we're big sliding every day.
- 12:09Speaker 2: Yeah, but when's the last time you went down a slide?
- 12:12Speaker 3: Not so long ago, actually.
- 12:13Speaker 2: Water park?
- 12:13Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah.
- 12:14Speaker 3: Oh, no, no, not a water park.
- 12:15Speaker 2: Not at a playground, right?
- 12:16Speaker 3: Not at a playground. At a playground. You just hang
- 12:19Speaker 3: it out at a playground? Yeah, just hanging out.
- 12:21Speaker 2: You going to the suites?
- 12:22Speaker 3: I mean, yeah, you know, if you just hit a park,
- 12:25Speaker 3: you feel me?
- 12:25Speaker 2: You just have to kill. We're at the park.
- 12:26Speaker 1: Let's go.
- 12:27Speaker 3: I was, you know, I was with my lady and
- 12:29Speaker 3: my nephews.
- 12:30Speaker 2: Oh, that's good.
- 12:31Speaker 1: Okay.
- 12:31Speaker 2: There was kids there.
- 12:32Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 12:32Speaker 2: That's okay.
- 12:32Speaker 3: That's my nephews, bro.
- 12:34Speaker 2: Come on, bro.
- 12:36Speaker 3: Come on.
- 12:36Speaker 2: As long as you weren't there with Brian Sampson. Whoa.
- 12:39Speaker 3: Whoa. He probably have, he probably have baby oil involved.
- 12:45Speaker 2: Different kind of slide? It'd be a slipping slide. He'd
- 12:48Speaker 2: have baby love involved. It'd just be a bunch of
- 12:50Speaker 2: cut up trash bags on the floor of a Hotel Six.
- 12:54Speaker 3: Shout out brian sampson we love you we.
- 12:57Speaker 2: Love you bro potato with eyes just glazed.
- 12:59Speaker 3: Up we love you brian sampson we love you brian
- 13:04Speaker 3: sampson you.
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- 14:22Speaker 1: interview does it ever get old working with the legends
- 14:26Speaker 1: because you have so many joints with 40 too short
- 14:28Speaker 1: and like it's like it's like at a certain point
- 14:31Speaker 1: it's it's like kind of like normal for you but
- 14:32Speaker 1: it's got to be cool to just.
- 14:33Speaker 3: Be like you know man dude i like man i
- 14:37Speaker 3: still like Till this day, I still get, like, starstruck
- 14:41Speaker 3: when I see 40. Like, you know, those are, like,
- 14:47Speaker 3: my legends. And for them to, like, always show love
- 14:52Speaker 3: and recognize what I've been able to do and, you know,
- 14:55Speaker 3: recognize my work, like, that's never going to get old
- 14:58Speaker 3: to me. Like, I have so much, like. deep respect
- 15:04Speaker 3: for them and what they've brought and what they've showed
- 15:06Speaker 3: us and what they've like been able to continue to
- 15:09Speaker 3: do especially in today still today you know it's not
- 15:12Speaker 3: like they they're older but they're they're.
- 15:15Speaker 4: Not washed no I mean 40 just dropped 40 songs
- 15:19Speaker 4: he just dropped 40 songs and it's 40 songs all
- 15:22Speaker 4: gas no brakes right no filler no filler all gas
- 15:26Speaker 4: you feel me so.
- 15:29Speaker 3: I got a deep respect for them and like especially
- 15:32Speaker 3: like being able to build, have a relationship with someone
- 15:36Speaker 3: like 40, like sometimes he'll, he'll call me and you know, he'll,
- 15:40Speaker 3: sometimes he'll ask me some shit like, Hey, what'd you
- 15:42Speaker 3: think about this? Or, you know, like, and to me,
- 15:47Speaker 3: that's still crazy. Cause it's like, man, like I, like
- 15:50Speaker 3: I grew up, you know, listening to you and you know,
- 15:53Speaker 3: you taught me hella shit.
- 15:54Speaker 1: What has been for you, you have some really big
- 15:57Speaker 1: sync records and like sometimes I'll turn on the TV
- 16:00Speaker 1: and I'll be like, Oh shit. What's the craziest sink
- 16:03Speaker 1: you've seen, like, same squad? Like, you've got joints that, like,
- 16:07Speaker 1: you'll just turn on, like, an A-Mex.
- 16:09Speaker 2: I don't know. Obviously, I'm just... Yeah. But you've had
- 16:11Speaker 2: some crazy sink opportunities.
- 16:12Speaker 3: I mean, yeah. I mean, we just got another one
- 16:14Speaker 3: with Hard Rock Casino.
- 16:19Speaker 2: It's better than Hard Cock Casino. Yeah, it's better. Yeah.
- 16:22Speaker 2: So that's a Hard Rock.
- 16:23Speaker 3: But, yeah, we just got a new one, Hard Rock Casino.
- 16:27Speaker 3: It's like their betting.
- 16:28Speaker 2: Oh, their betting app?
- 16:28Speaker 3: Yeah, it's like their betting app.
- 16:30Speaker 1: Fire.
- 16:31Speaker 3: And it was for a song, Going Off.
- 16:35Speaker 1: Oh, shit.
- 16:36Speaker 3: Going Off is like, oh, that shit sinks all the time.
- 16:40Speaker 1: Right.
- 16:40Speaker 2: Well, was there one that you were kind of tripped
- 16:42Speaker 2: out about?
- 16:43Speaker 3: I mean, for me, the dopest, I think to me,
- 16:45Speaker 3: still the dopest one was the Wingstop one.
- 16:47Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 16:48Speaker 3: The Wingstop one was pretty clean. It was like, bro,
- 16:51Speaker 3: hidden donuts, and it was like, put me on something.
- 16:53Speaker 2: Do you get any Wingstop gift cards when something like
- 16:55Speaker 2: that happens, or do you just take the money?
- 16:57Speaker 3: I'll just take the money. I like the money. I
- 16:59Speaker 3: like the symphony.
- 17:00Speaker 2: The licensing, yeah. You obviously super influenced by Mac Dre.
- 17:05Speaker 2: Would you say Mac Dre's your GOAT?
- 17:08Speaker 3: He's one of my GOATs.
- 17:09Speaker 2: He's one of them. He's one of them.
- 17:10Speaker 3: One of my GOATs.
- 17:12Speaker 1: It's got to be kind of cool to be a
- 17:14Speaker 1: part of the production of helping a record like Too
- 17:18Speaker 1: Hard for the Radio come back with the biggest rapper
- 17:22Speaker 1: in the world and go number one.
- 17:23Speaker 3: Man, that shit was amazing.
- 17:25Speaker 2: In two formats at radio, yeah.
- 17:26Speaker 3: Amazing. Amazing. Amazing, like, for me, like, I know how
- 17:34Speaker 3: much Mag Dre means to the Bay. Right. And, like,
- 17:40Speaker 3: I know how much he means to me. And I know, like,
- 17:43Speaker 3: Drake has always shown hella love to Mag Dre.
- 17:47Speaker 2: For sure. I mean, the motto was.
- 17:49Speaker 3: Yeah, since the jump, you know. And I feel like just, like,
- 17:53Speaker 3: people want to, like, have, like, a hard time remembering that.
- 17:59Speaker 3: just because of whatever happened.
- 18:01Speaker 1: Right.
- 18:02Speaker 2: Are you talking about the Kendrick thing?
- 18:03Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 18:03Speaker 2: Yeah. I didn't know what you were talking about. I
- 18:06Speaker 2: had no idea.
- 18:08Speaker 3: But, you know, but, like, yeah, like.
- 18:10Speaker 2: It's like he died the way you said it. The
- 18:12Speaker 2: way you.
- 18:12Speaker 3: Said it was like he just died. Nah, nah, it's just.
- 18:15Speaker 2: You're like, because of what happened.
- 18:17Speaker 3: Nah, like, but, like, yeah, like, I feel like to
- 18:23Speaker 3: be a part of that, like, that was, like, everything
- 18:26Speaker 3: to me because, like, I feel like Mag J is
- 18:28Speaker 3: one of those people... that necessarily didn't get all the flowers.
- 18:33Speaker 2: Still doesn't.
- 18:33Speaker 3: Still doesn't get all the flowers that he got while
- 18:37Speaker 3: he was here.
- 18:37Speaker 2: He's still like an if-you-know-you-know legend.
- 18:39Speaker 3: He's like folklore. Folklore.
- 18:42Speaker 2: And it's like if you're from the West Coast, you
- 18:45Speaker 2: get it. If you're from the Bay, you really get it. Yeah, yeah.
- 18:48Speaker 2: You really get it.
- 18:49Speaker 3: But yeah, he's kind of like this folklore figure to
- 18:53Speaker 3: people who don't necessarily know what he brought to the game.
- 18:59Speaker 3: and for someone like Drake to bring that to pretty
- 19:04Speaker 3: much the biggest stage in music.
- 19:07Speaker 2: For sure. I mean, he's the biggest artist.
- 19:08Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 19:09Speaker 3: I mean, he's one of the biggest artists. I mean,
- 19:12Speaker 3: his album, that was the biggest stage. That's what people
- 19:14Speaker 3: were waiting for pretty.
- 19:15Speaker 2: Much all year. Yeah, Iceman was a great project, too.
- 19:18Speaker 3: Yeah, great project. And to be a part of that
- 19:21Speaker 3: and to put Mac Dre on that platform, that meant everything.
- 19:25Speaker 2: So break that down for me, because... Obviously, you make
- 19:30Speaker 2: a ton of production. You have the big shots of
- 19:33Speaker 2: the big sliders.
- 19:33Speaker 3: Yeah, shot the big slides.
- 19:36Speaker 1: So do you have a folder you send to Drake?
- 19:38Speaker 1: Does he reach out to you for beats? Like, how
- 19:42Speaker 1: does this like start? Like, are you sending stuff out?
- 19:44Speaker 2: Is he reaching out because he needs some West Coast bangers?
- 19:47Speaker 1: And then like, do you also know then to? he's
- 19:50Speaker 1: going to redo the Mac Dre record? And when did
- 19:52Speaker 1: you find out that was what was happening?
- 19:53Speaker 3: Yeah. I mean, because pretty much it all really stemmed
- 19:57Speaker 3: from Kari. Okay. Kari was like.
- 19:59Speaker 2: Who's dope.
- 19:59Speaker 3: Kari, yeah, yeah, yeah. Shout out to Kari. He's, so
- 20:03Speaker 3: he's with Chubbs.
- 20:05Speaker 2: Okay.
- 20:06Speaker 3: And they were working on some shit.
- 20:09Speaker 2: And.
- 20:10Speaker 3: And drake was like yo like i want to do
- 20:12Speaker 3: some like bay shit like could you give me some
- 20:14Speaker 3: like pilo beats like just just we could just see
- 20:17Speaker 3: what's up right so pretty much we just started sending
- 20:20Speaker 3: like spamming like yeah just shooting them off like i
- 20:24Speaker 3: pretty much had like a hell of people that were
- 20:28Speaker 3: like out here in in la from the bay we
- 20:30Speaker 3: were just like shooting off there like everybody was just
- 20:33Speaker 3: coming to the studio like getting like throwing shit off
- 20:36Speaker 3: we probably sent like 20 some beats None of it landed.
- 20:40Speaker 3: None of them landed. None of them.
- 20:42Speaker 2: Oh, for 20.
- 20:43Speaker 3: Oh, for like, yeah, like over. So this is like
- 20:47Speaker 3: the week before Superbowl. Okay. And I was like driving up.
- 20:51Speaker 3: It was like hella early in the morning, like maybe
- 20:53Speaker 3: like seven, eight in the morning. And I get a
- 20:55Speaker 3: text from car. He was like, yo, um, Drake's like Drake,
- 20:58Speaker 3: like this sample. And it was already like, uh, it
- 21:01Speaker 3: was a beat from like OZ that he had, that
- 21:04Speaker 3: he had, uh, that he liked the sample from. So
- 21:06Speaker 3: pretty much like, He was like, yo, take this sample.
- 21:08Speaker 3: Can you put some drums on it? So literally, I
- 21:11Speaker 3: pull my car over. My homie Nick's with me. And
- 21:14Speaker 3: I'm like, Nick, yo, take over the wheel.
- 21:16Speaker 2: Drive.
- 21:17Speaker 1: Drive.
- 21:18Speaker 3: I got to make this beat.
- 21:19Speaker 2: You have your laptop?
- 21:19Speaker 3: Yeah, I have my laptop. So I'm making the beat
- 21:22Speaker 3: with my laptop connected to my Tesla Bluetooth speakers.
- 21:26Speaker 1: Nice.
- 21:27Speaker 3: And then pretty much, I made the beat, sent it
- 21:30Speaker 3: over to the homies. And then they touched it up.
- 21:34Speaker 3: And then by the time I got to the bay,
- 21:37Speaker 3: It was like the first part of the song was recorded.
- 21:40Speaker 2: And you were like, oh, shit.
- 21:41Speaker 3: I was like, oh, shit. But I think Kari knew
- 21:47Speaker 3: that Drake wanted to flip too hard for the radio.
- 21:50Speaker 3: So he was just like, man, we just got to
- 21:51Speaker 3: find the right beat.
- 21:53Speaker 2: So that was something he was like, he loved that
- 21:55Speaker 2: record and wanted to do.
- 21:56Speaker 3: No, for sure. I think he always knew he wanted
- 22:00Speaker 3: to flip that. So he was like, we just got
- 22:02Speaker 3: to find the right beat. Once we find the right beat,
- 22:03Speaker 3: it's going to be good.
- 22:06Speaker 2: Has there been any talk to him? I don't think he's, like,
- 22:08Speaker 2: are we going to get another Bay Area classic video
- 22:11Speaker 2: from Drake?
- 22:13Speaker 3: I mean, I think he already shot a video for it. Like,
- 22:16Speaker 3: it was, like, the one that came out on the stream.
- 22:19Speaker 1: Oh, yeah, yeah.
- 22:19Speaker 2: He shot, like, a four-hour, like, yeah.
- 22:21Speaker 3: Yeah, it was, like, the stream shit.
- 22:22Speaker 2: I got too much shit going on to watch four
- 22:23Speaker 2: hours of Drake videos. But, no, no, but you're right.
- 22:25Speaker 2: He shot visuals for everything. And they were all cool.
- 22:27Speaker 2: They all had the same aesthetic.
- 22:28Speaker 3: Yeah, it was pretty cool. Like, I mean, for us, like,
- 22:31Speaker 3: we were, like, in the studio, like, waiting like we
- 22:34Speaker 3: were oh i'm sure we were watching the whole stream
- 22:36Speaker 3: because we didn't necessarily like when it was like speculations
- 22:41Speaker 3: like there were there was.
- 22:43Speaker 1: Did you know you were on the album waiting because
- 22:45Speaker 1: sometimes it's like that close to.
- 22:47Speaker 3: The no no it was like all that shit was
- 22:49Speaker 3: like down to the wire like we didn't necessarily didn't
- 22:52Speaker 3: know like um we knew they were like clearing the
- 22:55Speaker 3: sample like the two hour for the radio shit right
- 22:59Speaker 3: but we didn't necessarily know if it was gonna actually
- 23:01Speaker 3: be on there because you know, sometimes they clear shit
- 23:04Speaker 3: and it don't necessarily make it, but, like, and then
- 23:07Speaker 3: we were starting seeing, like, the fake track.
- 23:09Speaker 2: List of, like... Yeah, there were so many.
- 23:11Speaker 3: Yeah, there was, like, right, there was, like, hella fake
- 23:13Speaker 3: track lists and we were, like, oh, shit, maybe we
- 23:16Speaker 3: are on there, maybe we're not. So we're literally at
- 23:19Speaker 3: the studio watching the stream.
- 23:21Speaker 2: And you're, like, oh, shit.
- 23:22Speaker 3: And then, like, they're watching all the videos, like, oh, shit,
- 23:25Speaker 3: this is going crazy. And then when it, like, when
- 23:28Speaker 3: the sample played and it, like, it was, like, the
- 23:31Speaker 3: pan of, like, Toronto, we were like, we were like, oh, fuck.
- 23:36Speaker 3: That shit, like, we own this bitch. Like, that shit
- 23:39Speaker 3: was nuts. Like, everyone's like, just started like jumping up
- 23:42Speaker 3: and down and shit. It was crazy.
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- 25:29Speaker 1: Do you feel like because I feel like it's kind
- 25:31Speaker 1: of like producers in general. I feel like sometimes like
- 25:35Speaker 1: producers can get in weird situations when they work with
- 25:39Speaker 1: like one side of somebody who's got beef with another side.
- 25:41Speaker 3: Mm hmm.
- 25:43Speaker 1: Is that anything that goes through your mind where you're like, ah, fuck,
- 25:46Speaker 1: maybe it might be hard for me to get a
- 25:47Speaker 1: TD placement now? I mean, obviously, you don't give a
- 25:49Speaker 1: fuck because you're pretty low. You got all the placements
- 25:51Speaker 1: in the world. But is that something that you think about?
- 25:54Speaker 3: I mean, at the end of the day, bro, I'm
- 25:57Speaker 3: not in nobody beef, bro. You feel me? I make music, bro.
- 26:01Speaker 3: I'm here to make music. You feel me? Whatever people
- 26:04Speaker 3: got going on, you feel me? That's on them.
- 26:06Speaker 2: My name's Paul. That's between y'all.
- 26:08Speaker 3: And my name is actually Paul O.
- 26:11Speaker 2: My name's Paul Lowe, and that's between y'all, yo.
- 26:13Speaker 3: Yes.
- 26:14Speaker 2: There you go. Yeah, fucking right.
- 26:16Speaker 3: There you go. Fucking right. But yeah, I mean, at
- 26:18Speaker 3: the end of the day, man, we making music, bro.
- 26:21Speaker 3: I'm not in no beef.
- 26:24Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it's unfair. I mean, I talked to
- 26:27Speaker 2: our boy Glasses.
- 26:28Speaker 3: Hey, Glasses.
- 26:29Speaker 2: Glasses says he loves you, but he's like, I love B-Lo, man.
- 26:32Speaker 2: That's my guy.
- 26:32Speaker 3: That's my guy, Glasses.
- 26:33Speaker 2: That's why I had to say something.
- 26:35Speaker 3: Glasses, come on.
- 26:36Speaker 2: But I just feel like it's unfair, especially knowing you.
- 26:40Speaker 3: Yeah, like, come on, bro.
- 26:41Speaker 2: I'm like, come on, man. Like, take the fucking joint.
- 26:44Speaker 2: And you're paying homage to Mac Dre. Helping Mac Dre's
- 26:47Speaker 2: family get a number one record.
- 26:48Speaker 3: Yeah, like, bro, like, end of the day, like, Mac Dre, like, as, like,
- 26:55Speaker 3: big as he is to us, like, he never was
- 26:59Speaker 3: able to get no, like, plaques. Like, you know what
- 27:04Speaker 3: I'm saying? Like, these are his, like, you know, first plaque. Like,
- 27:08Speaker 3: he's a double platinum songwriter now. Gold, gold, gold single songwriter.
- 27:15Speaker 2: Facts.
- 27:16Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying? Like, the, like, the shit
- 27:19Speaker 3: just went double, the album went double platinum yesterday. And then,
- 27:22Speaker 3: 2R is gold now.
- 27:24Speaker 2: Is that your biggest record that you produced? Um, no, no.
- 27:30Speaker 3: Not yet?
- 27:31Speaker 2: Not yet. Maybe over time.
- 27:32Speaker 3: Maybe over time. Yeah, maybe over time.
- 27:34Speaker 2: What's the biggest record?
- 27:36Speaker 3: Um, That I've been a part of?
- 27:39Speaker 1: Yeah, like.
- 27:39Speaker 2: You produced them. Damn.
- 27:44Speaker 3: I mean, the Flo Rida song is, like, maybe, like.
- 27:46Speaker 2: Going down for real?
- 27:47Speaker 3: Yeah, that shit's probably, like.
- 27:49Speaker 2: Six times. That is one of them ones that I'd
- 27:52Speaker 2: be forgetting about. Flo Rida got so many joints.
- 27:54Speaker 3: That shit's, like, seven.
- 27:56Speaker 2: And that was kind of, like, the last one he had. No,
- 27:59Speaker 2: real shit. It was, like, peak Sage era.
- 28:00Speaker 3: No, that shit was going crazy.
- 28:01Speaker 2: You know what I mean? Like.
- 28:02Speaker 3: Yeah, and that shit happened, like, quick, too. Like.
- 28:05Speaker 2: Yeah, that joint. Yeah, that's probably the one for sure. Yeah, that.
- 28:11Speaker 3: Was my first top ten record.
- 28:14Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 28:15Speaker 1: Was the CMG guys the first guys to fuck with.
- 28:18Speaker 2: You that weren't necessarily from the West Coast?
- 28:20Speaker 3: Wiz.
- 28:22Speaker 2: Wiz. The Khalifa man.
- 28:24Speaker 3: The Khalifa man. Shout out to, I just seen Khalifa.
- 28:27Speaker 2: Wiz is LA adjacent now, let's be clear.
- 28:29Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah.
- 28:29Speaker 2: He's been out here so fucking long.
- 28:31Speaker 3: Yeah, Wiz came to see me in Vegas.
- 28:33Speaker 2: I saw that.
- 28:34Speaker 1: You guys did the dinner with the Aussie man at
- 28:37Speaker 1: the old Hakkasan over there. Yeah.
- 28:39Speaker 3: Shout out to Wizzle, man. He came through. Shout out
- 28:40Speaker 3: to Bonix, too, man.
- 28:41Speaker 2: Bonix is an all-time Filipino just like you.
- 28:44Speaker 3: Yes, man.
- 28:45Speaker 2: Legend. Do you guys have a group chat of important Filipinos?
- 28:48Speaker 3: Maybe we should.
- 28:49Speaker 2: I feel like that'd be legit.
- 28:51Speaker 3: Okay, I'm starting it.
- 28:53Speaker 2: Who's in the group chat, by the way?
- 28:55Speaker 3: Bonix, me. Gotta be Guabdad. Guabdad's in there. We gotta put.
- 29:04Speaker 2: Sweetie for aesthetics.
- 29:05Speaker 3: Sweetie. Gotta put her in there.
- 29:08Speaker 2: Dude from the Black Eyed Peas. Yes. Apple D app.
- 29:11Speaker 2: I fucked his name up.
- 29:12Speaker 3: Apple D app.
- 29:13Speaker 2: Apple D app, yes, yes, yes.
- 29:14Speaker 3: Hopefully we get Manny Pacquiao. I'm trying to think. We
- 29:19Speaker 3: gotta get Rufio in there.
- 29:20Speaker 2: Okay. There's some great DJs. Yeah. Some of the greatest DJs.
- 29:26Speaker 3: Some of the greatest DJs. Invisible Scratch Pickles. Got to
- 29:30Speaker 3: get all those guys in there.
- 29:32Speaker 2: Is Mixmaster Mike? He's not Filipino. Yeah, he is. Oh,
- 29:34Speaker 2: he is?
- 29:35Speaker 3: I think so. Yeah, I believe so.
- 29:36Speaker 2: The whole Invisible Scratch Pickles. Yeah. Not Samson, though.
- 29:42Speaker 3: Samson's in there. Samson's in there.
- 29:44Speaker 2: Does Nico Blitz make the cut? You went to his wedding.
- 29:46Speaker 3: Yes, Nico Blitz makes the cut.
- 29:48Speaker 2: Okay, okay.
- 29:49Speaker 3: Yeah, Nico's a legend.
- 29:50Speaker 2: I love it. So is this going to be your
- 29:53Speaker 2: last project of the year? What are you working on?
- 29:56Speaker 2: I mean, obviously, I'm sure you've still got visuals to drop.
- 29:59Speaker 3: Yeah, no, man. I'm working, man. It's nonstop.
- 30:02Speaker 2: Got to get the HBK album out. Feels like Sage
- 30:05Speaker 2: is back outside.
- 30:07Speaker 3: Who knows?
- 30:09Speaker 2: We know.
- 30:10Speaker 3: Who fucking knows?
- 30:11Speaker 2: This interview established that we know.
- 30:13Speaker 3: Who fucking knows?
- 30:14Speaker 2: Will's fucking terrible looks over here.
- 30:16Speaker 3: Yeah. It's going to be a movie.
- 30:19Speaker 2: Whenever you guys announce it, I'm going to be so excited.
- 30:22Speaker 3: Yes, come on. We got to make another call to
- 30:25Speaker 3: the other big guy.
- 30:28Speaker 2: Which big guy?
- 30:29Speaker 3: The one that manages the big girl.
- 30:33Speaker 2: Oh, you're talking about David Ali.
- 30:34Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 30:35Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
- 30:36Speaker 3: So just applying pressure.
- 30:38Speaker 2: Well, listen, go get the album. Is there a song
- 30:40Speaker 2: on this album that you're wanting me to play on
- 30:42Speaker 2: the radio? Um.
- 30:45Speaker 3: All right.
- 30:45Speaker 2: Did you have it clean? Because don't fucking introduce something
- 30:48Speaker 2: that isn't clean.
- 30:48Speaker 1: Yes.
- 30:48Speaker 3: No, it's clean.
- 30:50Speaker 2: You guys are professionals.
- 30:51Speaker 3: We're professionals.
- 30:52Speaker 1: Okay.
- 30:52Speaker 3: Okay.
- 30:52Speaker 1: Listen, we're going to end the interview because this is
- 30:54Speaker 1: going to go all over the radio, all over the country.
- 30:57Speaker 1: I'm going to have you introduce the single with S-O-B-R-B-E
- 31:00Speaker 1: and One Umbrella.
- 31:01Speaker 3: Yeah. It's that new pillow. All right. Featuring S-O-B and
- 31:06Speaker 3: One Umbrella. Let's get it.
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