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Walter Masterson and MAGA Trolling 101 · Brief Recess: A Legal Podcast with Michael Foote & Mélissa Malebranche

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  Speaker 1: Welcome to Brief Recess.
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  Speaker 2: I'm Michael Foot Melissa Albrand.
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  Speaker 1: Today we're going to be talking about malaria pills, the
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  Speaker 1: movies we watched this past week. My favorite murder live
• 0:15
  Speaker 1: show was Fierce. We're going to be talking about that
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  Speaker 1: one gay bar in Maine. You know who you are,
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  Speaker 1: and we have our favorite guest, Walter Masterson. It's on
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  Speaker 1: the show today, So stick around, sit your butt down.
• 0:28
  Speaker 1: It's very mad, Max, I guess, or a little bit
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  Speaker 1: like a cranberry sauce, like a string of cranberry garland.
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  Speaker 2: You just went in my purse.
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  Speaker 1: I didn't go in your person. Person was wide open.
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  Speaker 1: It was a ma and but there was a tissue,
• 0:50
  Speaker 1: as you said, you want a tissue. And I look
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  Speaker 1: over purses, open tissue sitting right on top.
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  Speaker 2: But you went in it.
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  Speaker 1: My mother raised me, right, I know, not to ever
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  Speaker 1: go in a woman's purse.
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  Speaker 2: But you she written, I mean did she There was
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  Speaker 2: a This was.
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  Speaker 1: Not this was not being any This wasn't breaking and entering.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, you weren't digging in the bag, but you.
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  Speaker 1: Wasn't rooting around.
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  Speaker 3: Weren't rooting around, but you reached into my purse. So
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  Speaker 3: I want to tell you something. So, do you remember
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  Speaker 3: a couple of weeks ago, So after the podcast dropped
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  Speaker 3: and everybody, so I told my friends, I told my family,
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  Speaker 3: and you made the Haitian family group chat.
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  Speaker 2: Do you remember this?
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  Speaker 1: This has been the goal of my entire fund as
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  Speaker 1: well it should be because Okay, what people need to
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  Speaker 1: understand Melissa's phone it looks like like a cluster of
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  Speaker 1: grapes of all the fucking group chat she has. Like
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  Speaker 1: I'm not kidding, I don't think she has normal I
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  Speaker 1: don't think she has person one to one chats. It's
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  Speaker 1: it's all group chats.
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  Speaker 3: No, no, no, there's definitely because here's the thing. When you
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  Speaker 3: have a large extended family. I have a huge extended family.
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  Speaker 3: There's like the main group chat, and then they're like
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  Speaker 3: the subgroup chat, yes, right, because they're little offshoots. And
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  Speaker 3: then there's like there's like the talking shit group chats.
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  Speaker 1: Like I was gonna say, there's got to be a
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  Speaker 1: group chat to talk about the.
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  Speaker 2: About the wayward cousin or something.
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  Speaker 1: If you're not in if you're in a group chat
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  Speaker 1: and you're not in the subgroup chat, it's because the
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  Speaker 1: subgroup chat is about well, I.
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  Speaker 3: Am certain that there is also a subgroup chat right
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  Speaker 3: because I am.
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  Speaker 2: There has to be.
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  Speaker 1: I'm sure there's a subgroup chat of like did you
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  Speaker 1: see Melissa's got that podcast with that white boy?
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  Speaker 3: Or or you maybe, But I also think that there's
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  Speaker 3: like a subgroup chat about because I am I'm bossy.
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  Speaker 3: I'm bossy and opinionated. It's listen, you have to know
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  Speaker 3: who you And I'm also the I told you so cousin.
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  Speaker 3: But I'm also let the record reflect, fuck off is
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  Speaker 3: that I'm also the cousin that people tell their secrets
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  Speaker 3: to because they know what I want.
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  Speaker 2: They know that I won't know anybody.
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  Speaker 3: However, I will say, and I have a bone to
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  Speaker 3: pick with my brother and a lot of my cousins
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  Speaker 3: is they will tell me things in confidence and they
• 3:02
  Speaker 3: will say, don't say anything to anybody.
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  Speaker 1: I am laughing so hard because Melissa is that person
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  Speaker 1: for me. She knows all of my secrets. And I
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  Speaker 1: always say, I'm not saying this because I don't trust you.
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  Speaker 1: I'm saying this because I need to say it for myself.
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  Speaker 1: Please don't share this with anyone.
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  Speaker 2: And I don't.
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  Speaker 1: And but you get upset when I say you don't
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  Speaker 1: tell anyone.
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  Speaker 2: You're like, uh, well, because have I ever.
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  Speaker 1: No, But I still am saying it for me. It's
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  Speaker 1: for my guilt. It's soone. I'm at that at night
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  Speaker 1: in my sarcophagus at four in the morning and my
• 3:33
  Speaker 1: eyes are still wide fucking open. I'm like, I know,
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  Speaker 1: Melissa's not going to say anything because I said something, right.
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  Speaker 3: So, but the problem with my family is that they
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  Speaker 3: will tell me things and say don't say anything, and
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  Speaker 3: then when the thing comes out, like if like one
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  Speaker 3: of my cousins is pregnant, they just didn't want to.
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  Speaker 2: Say anything to anybody.
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  Speaker 3: They will say, oh, but Melissa new and then now
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  Speaker 3: my aunts, so mom is looking at me.
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  Speaker 2: My brother went away.
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  Speaker 3: When my brother was in college, he did study abroad
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  Speaker 3: in Molly and while he was there, he got malaria.
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  Speaker 1: I did Molly and study abroad continue.
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  Speaker 2: Did you really know? Oh? I was like, no, you
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  Speaker 2: couldn't have.
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  Speaker 3: And he called me and he said this is like
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  Speaker 3: early two thousands, and he was just like, don't say anything.
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  Speaker 3: I'm okay, but I'm in the hospital and I have malaria.
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  Speaker 3: And I was like, oh my god, are you okay, yes, yes, yes,
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  Speaker 3: And he was like don't tell mom and dad.
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  Speaker 4: All right.
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  Speaker 1: We have a rule in my family if anyone's in
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  Speaker 1: the hospital, Yeah, you have to tell my mother because
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  Speaker 1: whatever happened to you that landed you in the hospital,
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  Speaker 1: you'll be there an extra week because she'll fuck you
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  Speaker 1: up if you don't tell her that you're in the hospital.
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  Speaker 1: I'm seriou. It's like whatever, though, that was like the
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  Speaker 1: rule growing up. Yeah, if you are in the hospital,
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  Speaker 1: you have to call your mother, no matter even if
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  Speaker 1: it's the most embarrassing sex related thing, you have to
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  Speaker 1: call and tell her or else because she will mess
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  Speaker 1: she will rock your shite.
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  Speaker 2: Tipsy, I love.
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  Speaker 1: She's out there, she's out here, fan of the pod.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: But he gets home and then he says, while I
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  Speaker 3: was in MOLLI I got malaria.
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  Speaker 2: But don't worry.
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  Speaker 3: I told Melissa, and then my parents looking at me.
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  Speaker 3: This happens to me constantly. It is so enraging, Melissa. Melissa,
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  Speaker 3: you didn't tell me your son, my own son.
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  Speaker 2: He told me to tell you.
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  Speaker 1: When when I was traveling abroad and there was a
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  Speaker 1: malaria risk where I was going, it was possible that
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  Speaker 1: you could get malaria. It was a school trip and
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  Speaker 1: we all had to take the like preventative malaria.
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  Speaker 2: Medication bad dreams. Did you know that? Yeah?
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  Speaker 1: So I was taking them and I was like, guys,
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  Speaker 1: this is fucking me up, like this is r yeah,
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  Speaker 1: like really messing with my life. And for some reason,
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  Speaker 1: I'm talking to my friend about it. And I had
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  Speaker 1: the medication with me and I was showing her and
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  Speaker 1: I was like, and the pills are huge, and I
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  Speaker 1: was just like describing it, and I was like, they
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  Speaker 1: only gave me like so many. I had been taking
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  Speaker 1: the pills you take when you get malaria. I had been.
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  Speaker 2: You weren't preventeding. You were yourself that you did not.
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  Speaker 1: Have malaria age sixteen. My doctor and probably my parents.
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  Speaker 2: That's the doctor's problem.
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  Speaker 1: And now they did. There's a big ice cream scoop
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  Speaker 1: out of my brain.
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  Speaker 3: So anyway, so you you made the family group chat
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  Speaker 3: what I said, yea, And they were.
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  Speaker 2: Like yeah, the tattis and the uncles and uncle and
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  Speaker 2: Tati Tatsy is.
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  Speaker 3: Aunt and uncle is uncle. Remember a nice green shot
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  Speaker 3: at it. I'll give it to see I've been and
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  Speaker 3: you were no, no, no, but you your response to
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  Speaker 3: me was like, oh, this is going to be great
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  Speaker 3: because I am going to get all the Haitian vanilla.
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  Speaker 1: Oh do you have some? Oh my god, sorry to.
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  Speaker 3: The sound guy, I bequeath you, Oh my god.
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  Speaker 1: Perry essence of Vanilla. That's what they call me in
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  Speaker 1: the group chat, Essence of Vanilla. Michael, Oh my god,
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  Speaker 1: everyone's favorite blong screaming in the studio. I'm sorry.
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  Speaker 3: Store for weeks and I've been waiting to give this time.
• 7:23
  Speaker 1: I'm so excited because okay, so for Christmas, ear muffs
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  Speaker 1: everyone in the studio because you're getting this for Christmas.
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  Speaker 1: I make Panatoni and I need a lot of vanilla
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  Speaker 1: for it. My recipe calls for a lot, and I'm
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  Speaker 1: going to spend all next week and weekend baking. Oh
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  Speaker 1: my god. So okay, So backstory. For years, I want
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  Speaker 1: to say, like at least five years, Melissa has been
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  Speaker 1: her family has been maybe illegally importing vanilla from Haiti
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  Speaker 1: for me and what can only be described as an
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  Speaker 1: underground smuggling operation. But it does make my baked goods
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  Speaker 1: so much better. There's nothing like it. Ana, watch your.
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  Speaker 2: Fucking back once you go Hayitian vanilla.
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  Speaker 1: You know it is going to leave your ass for me.
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  Speaker 2: Okay, so great, Thank you so much.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, I'm going to put directly in here. It's a baking.
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  Speaker 2: It's a baking.
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  Speaker 1: This is sidebar. This is where we sort of talk
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  Speaker 1: about all the weird things happening in court, things happening
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  Speaker 1: in the judiciary, things happening in our personal lives. Anything
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  Speaker 1: you want to talk about right now that's going on.
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  Speaker 1: I mean, court has been Court's been wild. We we
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  Speaker 1: were out on Thanksgiving break.
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  Speaker 5: I can talk about that.
• 8:32
  Speaker 1: We could talk. I want to hear about your Thanksgiving
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  Speaker 1: Miss Cranberry necklace. But oh, this was fun. All the
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  Speaker 1: fucking clerks at the courthouse submitted their rejections right before
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  Speaker 1: four fifty nine pm on Wednesday night before Thanksgiving.
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  Speaker 2: That was methodical and climbed out.
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  Speaker 1: Yes, it was cruel and unusual punishment. Eighth Amendment violation.
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  Speaker 2: Well is it really?
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  Speaker 1: No? But okay, gay people were allowed to be a
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  Speaker 1: little dramatic.
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  Speaker 5: It's a crutch.
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  Speaker 2: Using it as a crutch.
• 9:02
  Speaker 1: I saw I saw the what is that the bird catch?
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  Speaker 2: Which version?
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  Speaker 1: William there's one you can see Robin Williams breaking in
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  Speaker 1: that show where he just like starts losing a ship,
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  Speaker 1: laughing like that movie. No, it's because you just don't
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  Speaker 1: like gay people, or do you want to go on
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  Speaker 1: the record, maybe straight to camera.
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  Speaker 2: I'll tell you what I didn't like about it.
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  Speaker 3: What I didn't like about that movie was that the
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  Speaker 3: sun comes back and he's basically asking his dad to
• 9:33
  Speaker 3: not be himself so that he can get in good
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  Speaker 3: with this senator.
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  Speaker 1: The plot is.
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  Speaker 2: That's what I didn't like about it. I was like,
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  Speaker 2: that's shitty.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I.
• 9:43
  Speaker 2: Took it too seriously, I suppose, but that was prob.
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  Speaker 3: I was just like, what kind of a fucked up
• 9:49
  Speaker 3: kid is that you're fucking ingreat like me while you're
• 9:52
  Speaker 3: a straight mother.
• 9:54
  Speaker 1: Gone, just just hit the bricks. Yeah fo No. I
• 9:58
  Speaker 1: get hung up on certain and things in movies where
• 10:01
  Speaker 1: I'm like, we just watched Bogonia Bagunya. It's like it's
• 10:04
  Speaker 1: got Emma Stone, said Watson. There is something about it
• 10:10
  Speaker 1: that really was bugging me the whole movie, and I
• 10:12
  Speaker 1: was like, I can't wait for this to be over
• 10:14
  Speaker 1: so I can scream about it. And it was like
• 10:16
  Speaker 1: it was sort of like the gender power dynamic, like
• 10:18
  Speaker 1: we're sort of asked, is this woman sort of being
• 10:20
  Speaker 1: held hostage? And I won't I won't reveal anything about
• 10:22
  Speaker 1: it because it just came out, but she's sort of
• 10:24
  Speaker 1: being held hostage and she's like a corporate CEO of
• 10:28
  Speaker 1: a tech company. And it's very much like a tongue
• 10:30
  Speaker 1: in cheek like jokey kind of movie. Okay, and like
• 10:34
  Speaker 1: a lot of the punchlines and jokes. I was like, Oh,
• 10:36
  Speaker 1: we're kind of being asked to laugh at a woman
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  Speaker 1: being held hostage, Like I don't love this, Like this
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  Speaker 1: makes me feel weird and I couldn't get past it
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  Speaker 1: and enjoy the movie because we don't take this seriously
• 10:48
  Speaker 1: enough in society, women be held hostage, murdered, killed right like.
• 10:52
  Speaker 2: And now it's the punchline.
• 10:53
  Speaker 1: And it's It wasn't like the punchline, but the fact
• 10:57
  Speaker 1: that she was such an abrasive, like uh, Elizabeth Holme
• 11:01
  Speaker 1: ceo kind of type, that was very much what they
• 11:03
  Speaker 1: were trying to go for this like tech ceo and
• 11:07
  Speaker 1: how she was sort of like unflinching in the face
• 11:10
  Speaker 1: of this hostage situation. I was like, we're being asked
• 11:15
  Speaker 1: to sympathize a lot with like the hostage holder, Like
• 11:18
  Speaker 1: we got his entire backstory, we got like why.
• 11:20
  Speaker 2: And all the reasons why this is justified.
• 11:23
  Speaker 1: And then it's her being like I'm a bitch, like
• 11:26
  Speaker 1: I'm not nice about to my hostage holder, and like
• 11:29
  Speaker 1: that was the joke. And I was like, okay, no,
• 11:33
  Speaker 1: this is I don't like this. This was it was bothering.
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  Speaker 5: That's right.
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  Speaker 2: It's weird.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, and there there are there are twists in the movie.
• 11:41
  Speaker 1: I won't give them away, but I don't think the
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  Speaker 1: twists justified. I couldn't get over that. Maybe it's because
• 11:48
  Speaker 1: I do work in the criminal laws space, or I'm
• 11:51
  Speaker 1: on like my favorite murder network. We're like we're always
• 11:54
  Speaker 1: talking about like women getting murdered, but right, and it's
• 11:58
  Speaker 1: just yeah, it's I was just like I can't laugh
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  Speaker 1: at this, and like I don't really like the idea
• 12:03
  Speaker 1: that people are being asked to that's even if they're
• 12:06
  Speaker 1: cool laughing at it.
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  Speaker 2: I was just like, yeah, that's okay to not like that.
• 12:09
  Speaker 1: We went to my favorite murder live, The King's.
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  Speaker 2: It was so amazing.
• 12:15
  Speaker 3: It was so good and so you bought Brad. I
• 12:19
  Speaker 3: bought Andre and my brother and sister in law. We
• 12:22
  Speaker 3: had a great time, so fun, and I think it
• 12:27
  Speaker 3: gave me like a perspective is to their fan base,
• 12:30
  Speaker 3: which is these people are dedicated.
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  Speaker 2: It was so cool, so so good.
• 12:35
  Speaker 1: It was like the colest part for me was like
• 12:37
  Speaker 1: everyone's emotionally.
• 12:39
  Speaker 2: Following along very much said and.
• 12:41
  Speaker 1: Like a really committed yes way, and I was too.
• 12:45
  Speaker 1: It was just it was just like very cool to
• 12:48
  Speaker 1: watch the storytelling unfold. It was it was really nice.
• 12:51
  Speaker 5: It was really good.
• 12:52
  Speaker 2: I was so excited to be Partian.
• 12:54
  Speaker 1: And we were in a part of Brooklyn that Melissa
• 12:55
  Speaker 1: described as the dark meat of the chicken.
• 12:59
  Speaker 2: Melissa did not say, yeah.
• 13:01
  Speaker 1: You were like, this is the thigh meyt. I was like,
• 13:04
  Speaker 1: I've never been to this part of Brooklyn.
• 13:06
  Speaker 2: You know what I did say that.
• 13:10
  Speaker 1: I was like, I've never been to this part of
• 13:12
  Speaker 1: Brooklyn before.
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  Speaker 2: You're used you're used to, Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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  Speaker 1: The Chickensham Park, Slow and over.
• 13:22
  Speaker 3: What's at that hisstory place, Williams Williamsburg used to being that.
• 13:27
  Speaker 1: I used to this closet.
• 13:28
  Speaker 3: I used to live over there. And I'll tell you
• 13:30
  Speaker 3: when I lived in Flatbush, the King's Theater was.
• 13:34
  Speaker 2: Wooded up and it hadn't been renovated.
• 13:38
  Speaker 3: It was like on the chopping block, and I can't
• 13:40
  Speaker 3: remember what happened, people were just like, you can't get
• 13:42
  Speaker 3: rid of this theater and now it's like a site. Yeah,
• 13:47
  Speaker 3: I've never met a man who loves himself more than you.
• 13:49
  Speaker 1: I don't know what you're talking about. I've got six
• 13:50
  Speaker 1: cameras on me right now and it's all my design.
• 13:54
  Speaker 2: You insisted. You were just like, where's the light?
• 13:58
  Speaker 1: Can we add another? I don't think we're.
• 14:01
  Speaker 2: Gonna be while.
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  Speaker 3: The girl is like whatever, but you are like, I
• 14:05
  Speaker 3: need more lights.
• 14:06
  Speaker 2: I need more lights.
• 14:08
  Speaker 1: Karen Kilgarv said something to me when I was having
• 14:10
  Speaker 1: dinner with her. She was like, your tiktoks are really
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  Speaker 1: close up on your face.
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  Speaker 5: Man.
• 14:16
  Speaker 1: It's like, yeah, it is about an inch away when
• 14:18
  Speaker 1: I'm filming. It started out a little further away.
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  Speaker 2: And that's what this all began for you mine, you know.
• 14:24
  Speaker 1: What, I do want to take it through a quick genesis.
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  Speaker 2: What happened, what was happening in the further way.
• 14:29
  Speaker 1: And then as I was filming on the street this,
• 14:32
  Speaker 1: I was saying more and more and making more and
• 14:33
  Speaker 1: more videos. So the camera got closer and closer to
• 14:36
  Speaker 1: my face. As the more and more I was filming
• 14:40
  Speaker 1: in crowded public streets, I couldn't be like out here
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  Speaker 1: like this and with a lot of people around me.
• 14:48
  Speaker 1: So it just got it just got a lot closer.
• 14:50
  Speaker 2: I like what I see on behalf of the people.
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  Speaker 1: We don't believe you, she said, we the people.
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  Speaker 3: We the people don't believe you. This is about this
• 14:59
  Speaker 3: is about you. I mean, listen, if nobody should love
• 15:02
  Speaker 3: your face more than you.
• 15:03
  Speaker 1: You know what I had that little speech in middle school, yourself,
• 15:08
  Speaker 1: love yourself. I really took it to heart.
• 15:10
  Speaker 3: I mean, I think that we should take a book
• 15:12
  Speaker 3: from the page of the lovely Anna Snap And Okay, Anna,
• 15:19
  Speaker 3: who's always talking about self love?
• 15:21
  Speaker 1: Oh my god? Right, So I listened to her interview.
• 15:25
  Speaker 1: She's and she really is. She's she's so great, but
• 15:28
  Speaker 1: it really is. It is true. Wait, I didn't actually
• 15:31
  Speaker 1: heard about your Thanksgiving. I'm sorry. I haven't seen Melissa
• 15:34
  Speaker 1: in like many weeks.
• 15:35
  Speaker 2: I know my Thanksgiving was fine. I think we did
• 15:38
  Speaker 2: too much.
• 15:39
  Speaker 3: Oh and I got to tell you, so my friends
• 15:42
  Speaker 3: were coming for you a little bit.
• 15:44
  Speaker 2: And let me tell you why, because I accept the
• 15:47
  Speaker 2: challenge because and I will and I will tell you
• 15:50
  Speaker 2: exactly why. And I get it.
• 15:52
  Speaker 3: You went on al Gore and Beyonce Nohls's internet talking
• 15:56
  Speaker 3: about how not stressful Thanksgiving.
• 15:59
  Speaker 1: I did not.
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  Speaker 5: Oh.
• 16:00
  Speaker 1: I was like, what did I say about al Gore?
• 16:02
  Speaker 2: Got nothing? Nothing? Yeah, but you were out here on
• 16:07
  Speaker 2: these internets.
• 16:08
  Speaker 1: It's not stressful. And I'm gonna double down. I don't
• 16:13
  Speaker 1: find it stressful. Okay, what we're what were your friends saying?
• 16:16
  Speaker 5: Well?
• 16:16
  Speaker 3: People, First of all, people will come sliding into my
• 16:18
  Speaker 3: DM asking me about this Michael person, where do you
• 16:22
  Speaker 3: even fucking know this guy from?
• 16:24
  Speaker 2: And I will also say that what did you make
• 16:27
  Speaker 2: for Thanksgiving this year?
• 16:29
  Speaker 1: Okay?
• 16:29
  Speaker 3: So wait, because that's the problem.
• 16:32
  Speaker 2: We're not stressful. It's not stressful. You weren't hosted for me.
• 16:39
  Speaker 2: You made mashed potatoes, Michael.
• 16:41
  Speaker 1: So I went out to a drag show the night
• 16:43
  Speaker 1: before because it was thanks Thanksgiving eve.
• 16:45
  Speaker 2: A choice was made and I was.
• 16:47
  Speaker 1: Up in Portland main where the gay bars are a
• 16:50
  Speaker 1: little bit. There's there's just a lot happening there.
• 16:55
  Speaker 2: There's a lot happening there, or not enough happening there.
• 16:57
  Speaker 1: How do I say this? Like, culturally, the gay scene
• 17:00
  Speaker 1: in Maine is like very different from New York. I
• 17:03
  Speaker 1: would say New York. It's like there was a crust
• 17:06
  Speaker 1: to the gay bars. There was a certain genes qua to.
• 17:09
  Speaker 2: The uh uh it was.
• 17:15
  Speaker 1: The gay bars in the gay I want to say bars,
• 17:18
  Speaker 1: it's one, it's one bar. It was a little bit
• 17:21
  Speaker 1: more of a die bar than I think I'm used
• 17:23
  Speaker 1: to trying to It was that the drinks were made
• 17:27
  Speaker 1: with pane and demarole. So what I'm saying is the
• 17:31
  Speaker 1: next day I was a little under the weather for Thanksgiving.
• 17:34
  Speaker 2: We don't care.
• 17:35
  Speaker 1: So we got home from the bar. Brad's asleep on
• 17:38
  Speaker 1: the sofa. I am now experiencing the polyurethane, the demarole,
• 17:46
  Speaker 1: trying to prep the food that I have that I've
• 17:49
  Speaker 1: promised everyone I was.
• 17:50
  Speaker 2: Going to bring the next day, mashed potatoes.
• 17:51
  Speaker 1: I'm mashing. I'm trying to mash potatoes and abriated. I
• 17:55
  Speaker 1: had to make two pies, and I like with crust.
• 17:58
  Speaker 1: I had made the crust previously. I mean, how Roman stuffing,
• 18:01
  Speaker 1: Alison Roman girlies? You know who you are, Okay? And
• 18:04
  Speaker 1: I also made something else that I was too drunk
• 18:06
  Speaker 1: to remember, so I think it was so sweet? Was
• 18:09
  Speaker 1: it savory?
• 18:10
  Speaker 2: It doesn't matter, It doesn't matter.
• 18:13
  Speaker 1: So the next day we were so tired, We're driving
• 18:16
  Speaker 1: to my aunts my Auntie's hat.
• 18:19
  Speaker 2: I need you to stop. I need you to stop.
• 18:21
  Speaker 2: Nobody cares.
• 18:22
  Speaker 1: I made like four or five things right.
• 18:24
  Speaker 3: But I think what what the people are feeling is
• 18:27
  Speaker 3: that for somebody who's not hosting people, the people people
• 18:33
  Speaker 3: you weren't hosting when you host we hosted this weekend.
• 18:37
  Speaker 2: You were invited, he was invited.
• 18:40
  Speaker 3: He was invited and opted not to come, which is fine,
• 18:44
  Speaker 3: but again, choices are being made.
• 18:46
  Speaker 2: And I was very stressed out.
• 18:48
  Speaker 1: I called you to like shoot the ship while you
• 18:51
  Speaker 1: were in the middle of hosting a party that I
• 18:54
  Speaker 1: have been invited.
• 18:56
  Speaker 3: And you said no, which is I was like, what's
• 18:59
  Speaker 3: listener today, I'm gonna call her.
• 19:00
  Speaker 2: I was like, I don't have time for you.
• 19:02
  Speaker 1: It's like, what's going on? And you answered and you
• 19:05
  Speaker 1: were you were entertaining it. And then two minutes and
• 19:07
  Speaker 1: you were like, you know, I'm hosting that party that
• 19:09
  Speaker 1: I literally fucking invited your ass to and you didn't.
• 19:12
  Speaker 1: You said you could have come.
• 19:15
  Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 19:17
  Speaker 3: But like when you are hosting people, you are stressed out.
• 19:21
  Speaker 3: And I will say that there is not a time
• 19:23
  Speaker 3: where I have hosted where Andre does not tell me
• 19:26
  Speaker 3: to go get take a xanax and.
• 19:28
  Speaker 2: That do you No, I don't.
• 19:30
  Speaker 1: You don't do you don't do aware of my Dolly's moment,
• 19:32
  Speaker 1: just pop in a sandy bar and well, I wouldn't
• 19:35
  Speaker 1: be able.
• 19:35
  Speaker 2: To do anything. Yeah, no, I can't. You co wouldn't
• 19:38
  Speaker 2: be able to like I am be able to function.
• 19:40
  Speaker 1: Oh I can. I can panic my way clear through
• 19:43
  Speaker 1: a Klana pin. No, I can't easily.
• 19:45
  Speaker 2: No, I can't do that.
• 19:46
  Speaker 1: I took a. Well, we should probably talk about the headlines.
• 19:48
  Speaker 3: A little bit, right and we haven't talked about my Thanksgiving,
• 19:51
  Speaker 3: but it doesn't matter.
• 19:51
  Speaker 1: Talk about taking a Let's talk about what's going on
• 19:54
  Speaker 1: in the news right now. Okay, this is your algorithm
• 19:58
  Speaker 1: is show, and we're going to talk about what's going
• 19:59
  Speaker 1: on on in the headlines. We're going to be talking
• 20:01
  Speaker 1: about what's happening right now, Diva boots on the ground,
• 20:04
  Speaker 1: what's happening on your phone, what's popping up on the notifications?
• 20:08
  Speaker 1: Today was all about the ice block app. For me,
• 20:10
  Speaker 1: I couldn't get honestly, couldn't get away from it. Basically
• 20:14
  Speaker 1: what happened was like there was this app. It was
• 20:16
  Speaker 1: sort of like you could report ice presence in your neighborhood.
• 20:20
  Speaker 1: We talked to Robert Garcia about this a little bit.
• 20:23
  Speaker 1: He's doing something similar, but like on the congressional level.
• 20:28
  Speaker 1: But you could report like ICE activity. You know, I'm
• 20:30
  Speaker 1: on such and such a corner in Queen's this is
• 20:33
  Speaker 1: what's going on. And you could sign up for it
• 20:36
  Speaker 1: as a user and then be aware of where ICE
• 20:39
  Speaker 1: is in your neighborhood. And basically what happened was the
• 20:44
  Speaker 1: Trump administration. Pam Bondi pressured Apple to take it out
• 20:49
  Speaker 1: of the Apple store because it was interfering with their and.
• 20:53
  Speaker 2: They did, and they're folding. People are full. I feel like.
• 20:56
  Speaker 1: And Apple did it. I think they capitulated instantly. I
• 20:58
  Speaker 1: don't even think there was like public discourse, just.
• 21:02
  Speaker 2: Folding like a cheap suit, like a wet paper bag.
• 21:04
  Speaker 1: Yep, yep. I don't have to come for my suit
• 21:06
  Speaker 1: like that.
• 21:06
  Speaker 2: But I mean, but see you a lot.
• 21:10
  Speaker 1: And so now there's a lawsuit. Ice Block is suing
• 21:15
  Speaker 1: the government. Get a girl, And Pam Bondi admitted she
• 21:19
  Speaker 1: was like, yeah, I did it, She like admitted it
• 21:21
  Speaker 1: in the press briefing.
• 21:22
  Speaker 3: Well they don't, okay, they no longer care, right right,
• 21:26
  Speaker 3: they no longer care I mean, I keep on thinking
• 21:28
  Speaker 3: about the President sitting there and saying Somali people are
• 21:33
  Speaker 3: garbage and doubling down on that stuff, like there is
• 21:37
  Speaker 3: no good send decorum, nothing has left. Yes, we are
• 21:44
  Speaker 3: out here raw dogging it and it's it's no, I mean,
• 21:48
  Speaker 3: it's really.
• 21:48
  Speaker 1: It's true.
• 21:49
  Speaker 2: No, it's true, fans lube just out here.
• 21:52
  Speaker 1: It is. And it's crazy because we're admitting to things
• 21:56
  Speaker 1: that are now going to be used in court. Like
• 21:58
  Speaker 1: when we talked to Rubert Garcia, he talked about this
• 22:00
  Speaker 1: a lot of just like we're papering the record, like
• 22:03
  Speaker 1: we're filling up the record of what we're gonna then
• 22:05
  Speaker 1: sue for later. And that's what Iceblock is doing. They're
• 22:07
  Speaker 1: taking Pam Bondi's statement and it's right there, it's quoted
• 22:12
  Speaker 1: directly in the lawsuit.
• 22:13
  Speaker 3: But I think they don't care because so far they're
• 22:16
  Speaker 3: they have been able to get away with it, right,
• 22:18
  Speaker 3: and they think that we can do whatever we want.
• 22:20
  Speaker 1: We own this, yes exactly, and like you know we've
• 22:23
  Speaker 1: got we'll just we'll just get pardoned later. George Santo's
• 22:27
  Speaker 1: style that I mess, I know, mess it is, it
• 22:34
  Speaker 1: is getting it's.
• 22:35
  Speaker 3: Well, it's also just you know, I am I'm embarrassed. Yeah, right,
• 22:40
  Speaker 3: I'm embarrassed. I'm yes, I'm anxious. Yes I'm angry. But
• 22:44
  Speaker 3: also there's a lot of like headholding.
• 22:47
  Speaker 2: Like what is going on?
• 22:49
  Speaker 3: Where are we? Why is this happening? Yeah? And I
• 22:52
  Speaker 3: mean and I think this is something I know. We
• 22:54
  Speaker 3: keep on sort of circling around this but trying to
• 22:57
  Speaker 3: figure out, well, what am I supposed to do?
• 22:59
  Speaker 2: Right?
• 22:59
  Speaker 3: So, like I was really hopeful about this ice block
• 23:02
  Speaker 3: app right because I want to know when ice is
• 23:05
  Speaker 3: in my neighborhood or near my workplace or even just
• 23:09
  Speaker 3: where I happen to be.
• 23:10
  Speaker 2: Because I want to help, right, I want to help.
• 23:13
  Speaker 3: I want to be sort of the town crier because
• 23:15
  Speaker 3: I that I those are the.
• 23:17
  Speaker 2: Things that I know that I can do.
• 23:18
  Speaker 1: Right, we can go through right now, I could do
• 23:20
  Speaker 1: a checklist of what you can do. You could be that,
• 23:23
  Speaker 1: you could be the town crier. Yeah, you just can't
• 23:25
  Speaker 1: obstruct justice. So like that's a very subjective thing. But
• 23:29
  Speaker 1: like so if the so if okay, wait.
• 23:33
  Speaker 3: Wait, wait hold on, But I think what I think
• 23:35
  Speaker 3: would be really helpful is what does that look like?
• 23:38
  Speaker 2: What does it look like by obstruct justice?
• 23:40
  Speaker 1: So ice is chasing some migrants in your neighborhood. Your
• 23:46
  Speaker 1: home door happens to be open and they run inside.
• 23:49
  Speaker 1: You can't like be like, guys, get in here, like
• 23:53
  Speaker 1: I'm going to help. You have to be. There has
• 23:54
  Speaker 1: to be a sort of if your door is open
• 23:57
  Speaker 1: and they happen to go inside, and you happen to
• 23:58
  Speaker 1: close it after, then you can deny the entry. You
• 24:02
  Speaker 1: can say this is my private home. You need to
• 24:03
  Speaker 1: have assigned judicial warrant in order to search the premises.
• 24:06
  Speaker 2: But if I were to say that, then.
• 24:09
  Speaker 1: You are committing a crime. I am, yes, I.
• 24:12
  Speaker 2: Don't see that, but I mean, I'm wondering if the.
• 24:15
  Speaker 1: Same thing goes for your business. So if you so,
• 24:17
  Speaker 1: like if you run a seven eleven and you have
• 24:20
  Speaker 1: a back room a private area, the police can search that. Right,
• 24:24
  Speaker 1: So if people had a whiting.
• 24:25
  Speaker 2: In there without a warrant, right without a warrant.
• 24:27
  Speaker 1: The warrant has to have like a signature on it.
• 24:29
  Speaker 1: It has to say honorable so and so at their signature. Okay, yeah,
• 24:33
  Speaker 1: but yeah, it's crazy. I mean, and then you know,
• 24:35
  Speaker 1: we do all this stuff and then I think I
• 24:37
  Speaker 1: made a video about filing a G twenty eight of
• 24:39
  Speaker 1: how people can file this form in order to get
• 24:42
  Speaker 1: a lawyer to help you. And then there's like new
• 24:45
  Speaker 1: precedent that says that you can't get bonded out if
• 24:49
  Speaker 1: you weren't crossing a border and being inspected by a
• 24:52
  Speaker 1: border agent or an asylum officer. Yeah, it's crazy, and
• 24:55
  Speaker 1: like we, you know, we come up with these rules
• 24:58
  Speaker 1: and then they change.
• 24:59
  Speaker 3: Well that's the thing is that they're changing so quickly,
• 25:01
  Speaker 3: and it's it's like we're changing the tires on the
• 25:05
  Speaker 3: car as the car is moving, right, Like that's what
• 25:08
  Speaker 3: it feels like. You don't know what to do because
• 25:12
  Speaker 3: it's happening so quickly and they're making it up as
• 25:14
  Speaker 3: they go along.
• 25:15
  Speaker 1: They are, They are, They very much are. I was
• 25:18
  Speaker 1: remember that client who was texting me. He just texted
• 25:20
  Speaker 1: me and said Jew.
• 25:21
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah that guy.
• 25:22
  Speaker 1: Yeah, no, God bless him. Kid. Okay, so just for
• 25:27
  Speaker 1: those who don't know the law, I represent a child.
• 25:31
  Speaker 2: And he texted me, well, he texts you, he texts.
• 25:35
  Speaker 1: Me this way. He's learning English. And at one point
• 25:39
  Speaker 1: he just texted me and said Jew. And I was like,
• 25:43
  Speaker 1: we gotta do. We have to get into identity politics
• 25:45
  Speaker 1: and trying to like help him learn English a.
• 25:47
  Speaker 2: Little bit and education and educate him a little bit.
• 25:49
  Speaker 1: So I'm like I'm pulling out more information, like what's
• 25:52
  Speaker 1: going on with you? And turns out he was working
• 25:55
  Speaker 1: at a Jewish summer camp. So it was like just
• 25:56
  Speaker 1: like a surprise. I was like, oh yeah, it's just
• 25:58
  Speaker 1: like a very strange thing. He just love it.
• 26:02
  Speaker 2: Just didn't know any better, Yeah, exactly.
• 26:03
  Speaker 1: And so we got past that. But anyway, active case
• 26:08
  Speaker 1: right now, we're like we're in the middle of getting
• 26:10
  Speaker 1: him a green card and I've got all the judges approvals.
• 26:13
  Speaker 1: I've been working the case for years, and they just
• 26:16
  Speaker 1: detained him. He's like a kid, just detain it. And
• 26:19
  Speaker 1: it's like, okay, I literally have four judges who have
• 26:22
  Speaker 1: signed off on this and they no one gives a shit.
• 26:25
  Speaker 2: What can you tell without telling us?
• 26:27
  Speaker 4: Right?
• 26:27
  Speaker 2: Like, was he.
• 26:28
  Speaker 1: Just just rounded up? There was no like instance, there
• 26:33
  Speaker 1: was no like there was There wasn't a crime that
• 26:35
  Speaker 1: was committed. It was just like you know, being ground
• 26:37
  Speaker 1: in the wrong place. So then so then it becomes
• 26:41
  Speaker 1: like you know, what do I have to jump in
• 26:44
  Speaker 1: and like I have to figure out how to like
• 26:45
  Speaker 1: bond this person out. It's like where wait, we have
• 26:48
  Speaker 1: to wait years in order to get him citizenship, right,
• 26:52
  Speaker 1: so for all those years, he's just did this high risk,
• 26:54
  Speaker 1: potentially detained situation. Back to the checklist. I mean I
• 26:59
  Speaker 1: made a video today about like what white people can do,
• 27:01
  Speaker 1: because I we we have to think about it this way,
• 27:04
  Speaker 1: like what can white people do to help? Like how
• 27:06
  Speaker 1: do you flect your white privilege? And like I think
• 27:09
  Speaker 1: and I've seen it done really well online, especially with
• 27:12
  Speaker 1: the Portland raids, right to assembly, right to protest, and
• 27:17
  Speaker 1: right to record, especially in New York City too. I
• 27:20
  Speaker 1: mean those are our new mayor mom. Donnie was talking
• 27:23
  Speaker 1: a bit about in a video about how those rights
• 27:26
  Speaker 1: are especially protected in New York. So those are really
• 27:29
  Speaker 1: important rights to remember as you're thinking about supporting. And
• 27:34
  Speaker 1: we talked about it with Georgia and Karen too, like
• 27:36
  Speaker 1: how do you how do you help from your sofa
• 27:39
  Speaker 1: right right? Like how do you not like those of
• 27:42
  Speaker 1: us who are maybe less confrontational, we're talking to the
• 27:45
  Speaker 1: king of confrontation. In this episode, Walter Masters said a
• 27:49
  Speaker 1: little bit where he's coming to the studio, but maybe
• 27:52
  Speaker 1: not all of us are. Walter, No, I think you
• 27:57
  Speaker 1: want to do something from home, right.
• 27:59
  Speaker 3: I think the other though is that and I am
• 28:01
  Speaker 3: sort of guilty of this as well, is I feel
• 28:05
  Speaker 3: like I have to be careful not just sort of
• 28:08
  Speaker 3: just wish this stuff away, right, and be willing to
• 28:13
  Speaker 3: sort of do the thing. So are you willing to
• 28:15
  Speaker 3: go out? Like you could be upset at the situation,
• 28:18
  Speaker 3: but what are you willing to do? What are you
• 28:19
  Speaker 3: willing to risk?
• 28:20
  Speaker 1: Right?
• 28:20
  Speaker 3: And I'm not just anybody like risk their lives or
• 28:23
  Speaker 3: their livelihoods or anything like that, but like, are you
• 28:26
  Speaker 3: willing to go out to take it to the streets
• 28:28
  Speaker 3: and protests?
• 28:29
  Speaker 2: Are you willing to call people out? Do you actually
• 28:32
  Speaker 2: I mean, and I know we get.
• 28:33
  Speaker 3: So tired of hearing this kind of thing, but are
• 28:35
  Speaker 3: you actually willing to write your congressman? Are you actually
• 28:38
  Speaker 3: willing to do those things? Are you willing to get
• 28:40
  Speaker 3: involved in sort of grasproots organizations? And you have to
• 28:44
  Speaker 3: hold the mirror up to yourself and be like do
• 28:46
  Speaker 3: you really want to do those things or do you
• 28:48
  Speaker 3: wish that other people would do it and make the
• 28:51
  Speaker 3: problem go?
• 28:52
  Speaker 1: And I'm going to make it easy for you, because
• 28:54
  Speaker 1: you know what, I am that person who will pay
• 28:56
  Speaker 1: the forty dollars delivery fee for the seamless thing that's
• 28:58
  Speaker 1: right down the street. So if you are one of
• 29:01
  Speaker 1: those people and you just want to support without actually
• 29:05
  Speaker 1: doing anything other than throw money at the problem, that's okay.
• 29:09
  Speaker 1: There is like a very real place for you. Yeah,
• 29:11
  Speaker 1: there is the fight for justice for sure. My friend
• 29:13
  Speaker 1: runs a nonprofit. She represents people who are deemed mentally
• 29:18
  Speaker 1: unsound to stand trial by themselves. You don't have a
• 29:21
  Speaker 1: right to a lawyer in immigration court. You have a
• 29:24
  Speaker 1: right to consult a lawyer, but one will not be
• 29:26
  Speaker 1: provided for you like in criminal court. So basically what
• 29:30
  Speaker 1: she does is she's a defense attorney for those people
• 29:32
  Speaker 1: who are not mentally sound to stand trial themselves. So
• 29:35
  Speaker 1: you can go to the link in my link tree
• 29:37
  Speaker 1: and you can make a tax deductible gift to her
• 29:40
  Speaker 1: nonprofit where she does this defense work. She's incredible. But
• 29:44
  Speaker 1: these legal defense funds really are a great venue for you.
• 29:47
  Speaker 1: Maybe you don't feel like protesting, or you aren't a
• 29:50
  Speaker 1: lawyer who can go do something.
• 29:51
  Speaker 3: So somebody like your friend who has this nonprofit and
• 29:54
  Speaker 3: she's an attorney, so she has a very sort of
• 29:56
  Speaker 3: a very specific skill set. Organizations like that need volunteers,
• 30:02
  Speaker 3: people who do like people with a certain language skill.
• 30:05
  Speaker 3: Maybe it's maybe if it's somebody with a mental health issue,
• 30:08
  Speaker 3: like a social worker, like somebody go.
• 30:11
  Speaker 1: To immigration justice campaign. I've done a lot of work
• 30:15
  Speaker 1: for them in my life. They always need people with
• 30:20
  Speaker 1: a language skill or a volunteer or support or like
• 30:25
  Speaker 1: they have incredible resources. They've supported my entire immigration career,
• 30:30
  Speaker 1: uh with just like people helping write briefs, people like.
• 30:34
  Speaker 1: It is this extraordinary network of people.
• 30:37
  Speaker 2: Are you a good editor? Like can you help in
• 30:39
  Speaker 2: that way? Right?
• 30:40
  Speaker 1: And non lawyer support.
• 30:41
  Speaker 5: Right.
• 30:42
  Speaker 3: I think there are a lot of people and you know,
• 30:43
  Speaker 3: and I think a lot about you know.
• 30:46
  Speaker 2: I have this language skill. How can I you know?
• 30:50
  Speaker 3: And it's one of those things that you know, I
• 30:52
  Speaker 3: didn't go to school to learn how to speak frustration carell.
• 30:55
  Speaker 3: It just happened in my house. So I have it already.
• 30:57
  Speaker 3: And I know Haitian people very well, and I understand
• 30:59
  Speaker 3: the community, and I think that what can I do
• 31:02
  Speaker 3: to help my community?
• 31:04
  Speaker 2: Exactly?
• 31:05
  Speaker 3: So if you are somebody you've got those language skills
• 31:08
  Speaker 3: and you had the desire to be helpful, there is
• 31:11
  Speaker 3: a way to do that.
• 31:12
  Speaker 1: Yeah, we're your girls. We're here every week. We got you.
• 31:16
  Speaker 1: We'll be thinking this through with you, especially as like
• 31:18
  Speaker 1: Melissa says, we're changing the tires on the car while
• 31:21
  Speaker 1: the car's emotion unbelievable to me. Yeah, this will change
• 31:24
  Speaker 1: every week. But we're also here to support each other.
• 31:26
  Speaker 1: We got a fierce network of people we do, and
• 31:29
  Speaker 1: we're here to support you.
• 31:30
  Speaker 3: Interested in sort of like bringing more people into that network, right,
• 31:34
  Speaker 3: And like you know, if there's something that I don't know,
• 31:37
  Speaker 3: you tell me, I'll tell somebody else DM it to me.
• 31:40
  Speaker 1: Like you guys know, I probably overshare in my stories.
• 31:43
  Speaker 1: So if there is info that I can quickly screenshot
• 31:46
  Speaker 1: and just reshare, please please do us.
• 31:48
  Speaker 2: Michael loves a good oversharing moment, happy.
• 31:50
  Speaker 1: To do it. And y'all know I post without thinking.
• 31:53
  Speaker 1: So anyway, Walter's here, So we're going to go ahead
• 31:56
  Speaker 1: and reset. We'll take a quick break and we'll be
• 31:58
  Speaker 1: right back with Walter Master Center. We're so excited we're
• 32:03
  Speaker 1: here with Walter Masterson. He creates satirical social street interviews
• 32:07
  Speaker 1: and political pranks. His appearances have included rallies, protests, school
• 32:11
  Speaker 1: board meetings. He sometimes adopts right wing personas such as Maga,
• 32:15
  Speaker 1: Republican or supporter of Donald Trump. Welcome to the show.
• 32:21
  Speaker 5: Thank you so happy that.
• 32:22
  Speaker 2: Yeah, we're really excited to have you on.
• 32:24
  Speaker 3: All right, so I'm going to ask you a question
• 32:26
  Speaker 3: right away because sorry do it.
• 32:30
  Speaker 5: So.
• 32:31
  Speaker 3: I've been paying attention to your social media for a
• 32:33
  Speaker 3: really long time. I really appreciate the work that you're doing.
• 32:37
  Speaker 3: I have to tell you, Walter, you go into these
• 32:40
  Speaker 3: situations and you're speaking with these people and I legitimately
• 32:46
  Speaker 3: have anxiety on your behalf, and I get worried about
• 32:50
  Speaker 3: your personal safety.
• 32:51
  Speaker 1: Do people say that a lot that they have anxiety?
• 32:55
  Speaker 4: People have said that I I have a problem with.
• 32:59
  Speaker 4: That's sort of thing of I usually tell people that
• 33:02
  Speaker 4: tag along. It's like, if you see me start to worry,
• 33:06
  Speaker 4: then it's a huge issue. Shouldn't panick because I sort
• 33:11
  Speaker 4: of have this very weird like, oh, everything's fine, yeah,
• 33:15
  Speaker 4: and then when it's when it's bad, I'm like, all right,
• 33:18
  Speaker 4: you got to go. If you've see me worrying, just
• 33:21
  Speaker 4: runs the safety for the people you ever.
• 33:24
  Speaker 2: Though, because because here's the thing, I think that when
• 33:27
  Speaker 2: we are talking about mega people, a lot of them
• 33:31
  Speaker 2: come across to me anyway, as absolutely unhinged and a
• 33:35
  Speaker 2: little on the wrong.
• 33:36
  Speaker 3: Side of crazy and sort of quick to violence, right,
• 33:42
  Speaker 3: and you are out there putting a mirror in front
• 33:44
  Speaker 3: of them if they get it right away, because sometimes
• 33:47
  Speaker 3: they're too stupid to understand what you're doing. But when
• 33:50
  Speaker 3: they finally maybe get an idea that you're coming for them,
• 33:55
  Speaker 3: what like, what is the because we're seeing a couple
• 33:58
  Speaker 3: of clips on social media, right, so we don't have
• 34:00
  Speaker 3: the big picture of what's happening. What is their reaction,
• 34:03
  Speaker 3: what do they say to you? What do they want
• 34:06
  Speaker 3: to do to you? Do you feel like do you
• 34:07
  Speaker 3: ever feel it?
• 34:08
  Speaker 5: Like?
• 34:08
  Speaker 2: Our shit?
• 34:09
  Speaker 4: There's been a few times when I've said, okay, Like,
• 34:13
  Speaker 4: there's been time one time I was getting kicked out
• 34:15
  Speaker 4: of a city hall. I was getting kicked out of
• 34:19
  Speaker 4: a town hall in Springfield, Ohio. That was remember that
• 34:24
  Speaker 4: they're eating the dogs count.
• 34:26
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Rush, and I remember that very well.
• 34:28
  Speaker 4: My producing partner and I went there and spoke at
• 34:31
  Speaker 4: the town hall as members of the JD Vance campaign.
• 34:36
  Speaker 5: We believe in the.
• 34:37
  Speaker 4: American dream over at the JD Vance Campaign, and in
• 34:41
  Speaker 4: order to achieve that dream, we need to stop other
• 34:46
  Speaker 4: people from that dream.
• 34:48
  Speaker 5: Oh God, and we like leaned all the way into it.
• 34:54
  Speaker 1: How did you prepare for that? Did you dress a
• 34:55
  Speaker 1: certain way? Were you?
• 34:56
  Speaker 4: I had on my Heritage Foundation hat? And we came
• 35:01
  Speaker 4: there and it was it was actually pretty funny. So
• 35:04
  Speaker 4: like the funny. The part that went wrong was I
• 35:07
  Speaker 4: was supposed to give a speech. Then I produced the
• 35:09
  Speaker 4: partner was supposed to give a speech. Right, I was
• 35:12
  Speaker 4: a primer. His was absurd, so like over the way,
• 35:16
  Speaker 4: over the top, right, just absolute nonsense. So then they
• 35:22
  Speaker 4: switched the order so that he went first. Then I went,
• 35:25
  Speaker 4: oh no, and so right af right on top of
• 35:28
  Speaker 4: each other, and I go, oh wow, okay, this kind
• 35:30
  Speaker 4: of screws things up, but okay, roll with it. Yeah,
• 35:34
  Speaker 4: and they they tossed us after our speeches, and I
• 35:39
  Speaker 4: remember telling the police officer, I said, I mean, since
• 35:43
  Speaker 4: you're since you're throwing me out, can you just walk
• 35:47
  Speaker 4: us to our car? I mean, I mean, you're you're
• 35:51
  Speaker 4: you're going to escort me out of the building anyway, you.
• 35:53
  Speaker 5: Know, the car is fifty feet.
• 35:56
  Speaker 4: I remember the police officer was like sure, because we
• 36:00
  Speaker 4: people were like people were like and it was and
• 36:03
  Speaker 4: it was the perfect storm of furious because I had
• 36:07
  Speaker 4: maggot people that knew I was making fun of them,
• 36:11
  Speaker 4: absolutely furious at me. Then I had people that were
• 36:15
  Speaker 4: somewhat progressive that thought I was from the shady Vans
• 36:19
  Speaker 4: camp and they were furious with me. And then I
• 36:22
  Speaker 4: had people that they were just like, hey, you know what,
• 36:26
  Speaker 4: you know, you're coming here just mad because everyone's mad.
• 36:28
  Speaker 4: You're mocking our town. You don't live here, You're coming
• 36:30
  Speaker 4: here in fun of us. And I had just managed
• 36:34
  Speaker 4: to upset every demographic in that town simultaneously. I remember
• 36:41
  Speaker 4: we get in the car, We get in the car
• 36:44
  Speaker 4: and my reducing partners like, I'm like, so anyway, He's like,
• 36:47
  Speaker 4: go come on, come on, He's like, and then we're
• 36:50
  Speaker 4: like running red lights, like just like, do not take
• 36:53
  Speaker 4: your foot off the gas until.
• 36:55
  Speaker 1: To get out of dodge. Walter, you're often like behind
• 36:59
  Speaker 1: enemy lines. I love about all your videos is that
• 37:04
  Speaker 1: you always have a backup, like you have like three
• 37:07
  Speaker 1: or four. You do it in waves, like you start
• 37:09
  Speaker 1: making a toast, then someone else makes a toast. It's
• 37:12
  Speaker 1: never just one person. Yes, exactly, so like the Lee's
• 37:15
  Speaker 1: Eldon video. I'd like to to.
• 37:18
  Speaker 4: Lee Elton for destroying our access to clean air and
• 37:22
  Speaker 4: clean water.
• 37:24
  Speaker 1: What's next, just laying Max Well for the women's empowerments
• 37:28
  Speaker 1: on it. I'm from Long Island, that was my former representative.
• 37:32
  Speaker 4: Yeah, and it was so ironic. They the New York
• 37:35
  Speaker 4: Cancer Society, which, for the love they do great work. Yes,
• 37:39
  Speaker 4: they they're curing cancer. They have a person speaking at
• 37:43
  Speaker 4: their charity function that is going to be responsible forgiving
• 37:49
  Speaker 4: thousands of people cancer. Unequivocally, that is not the biggest opening.
• 37:55
  Speaker 4: Coal plants, you know, derailating, deregulating air restrictions, water restrictions.
• 38:01
  Speaker 4: I mean you can put you know, feces in water
• 38:03
  Speaker 4: now thanks to him, I mean just across the board.
• 38:06
  Speaker 4: And he is speaking at the New York Cancer Society
• 38:09
  Speaker 4: on ironical.
• 38:10
  Speaker 5: And ironically and I'm like, so, yeah, I was through cancer.
• 38:14
  Speaker 4: That was through Climate Defiance. We bought out a bunch
• 38:18
  Speaker 4: of those seats and planned it out. If anyone wants
• 38:21
  Speaker 4: to do what you see on that in that video,
• 38:24
  Speaker 4: just contact Climate Defiance. You can get in with them.
• 38:27
  Speaker 1: Wow.
• 38:28
  Speaker 5: So they're always looking quick.
• 38:30
  Speaker 1: Shout out to Climate Defiance if you want to get involved.
• 38:33
  Speaker 1: We were just talking before this segment about like what
• 38:35
  Speaker 1: people can actually do to get involved because you are
• 38:38
  Speaker 1: probably the all the way at this end of the
• 38:41
  Speaker 1: spectrum of involvement, and there's a lot of people who
• 38:44
  Speaker 1: are at the opposite end of the spectrum who are
• 38:46
  Speaker 1: not involved at all.
• 38:47
  Speaker 5: Getting involved makes it feels better.
• 38:50
  Speaker 1: It does, I will say as someone as people who
• 38:53
  Speaker 1: are involved, it feels great.
• 38:57
  Speaker 3: I think that the danger not really but for me,
• 39:01
  Speaker 3: like you get involved, but am I involved enough?
• 39:04
  Speaker 1: Right?
• 39:04
  Speaker 3: Like what's enough? What's enough for Walter? Is enough for Michael?
• 39:08
  Speaker 5: I go through that all the time, like could I
• 39:10
  Speaker 5: be doing more?
• 39:11
  Speaker 4: You've been doing more? And then to the to the
• 39:13
  Speaker 4: average person, it's it's a lot. But to my peer
• 39:17
  Speaker 4: group it's like, I mean, are we you know, what
• 39:20
  Speaker 4: more is there to do? And am I doing enough?
• 39:24
  Speaker 4: Am I making a difference? Or am I just shit
• 39:27
  Speaker 4: posting on the internet?
• 39:30
  Speaker 1: I go through that too, like especially as like immigration
• 39:33
  Speaker 1: law cases get overturned or people get deported. Cases I've
• 39:36
  Speaker 1: worked on for years, the person ends up getting deported
• 39:39
  Speaker 1: anyway I get. I go through the cycle of like
• 39:42
  Speaker 1: did I actually make a difference? At a Klein who
• 39:44
  Speaker 1: I worked with him for I think like a year.
• 39:48
  Speaker 1: It was the trial and after we won, he odeed
• 39:53
  Speaker 1: and died within a month. And I was like, did
• 39:57
  Speaker 1: I fucking do anything? Like did I actually like make
• 39:59
  Speaker 1: a difference here? And it's like it was just like
• 40:02
  Speaker 1: something that I had to go through as I was.
• 40:04
  Speaker 2: Trying to I think you did.
• 40:05
  Speaker 3: I mean, it's it's tragedy obviously that he died that way,
• 40:10
  Speaker 3: but you did really good work for him that that
• 40:13
  Speaker 3: part of it is not on you.
• 40:15
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you know what I mean.
• 40:16
  Speaker 1: Yeah. I wasn't like, oh, this is on me. I
• 40:18
  Speaker 1: was like, this is for me. I came away from
• 40:21
  Speaker 1: it and I was like, I did this thing. I
• 40:23
  Speaker 1: was swinging hard for someone who no one ever swung
• 40:26
  Speaker 1: for him before, so that I came away for him
• 40:29
  Speaker 1: and I was like, Okay, we went down swinging. I
• 40:32
  Speaker 1: gave him what probably very few people I've given him
• 40:36
  Speaker 1: in his life, which is like a second chance or
• 40:39
  Speaker 1: third or whatever. I don't know. I still have like
• 40:43
  Speaker 1: complicated emotions around.
• 40:44
  Speaker 4: It, but like that hits me because I'm sober. I've
• 40:46
  Speaker 4: been sober for over a decade. While I don't congrats, Yeah,
• 40:51
  Speaker 4: and there's probably a good reason then. Yeah, I don't
• 40:53
  Speaker 4: do it. I don't drink or drug and I used to,
• 40:55
  Speaker 4: so you know, I'm reformed. Yeah, And that's part of
• 41:00
  Speaker 4: what radicalized me is So that.
• 41:02
  Speaker 3: I was going to ask you, so, you know, what
• 41:05
  Speaker 3: made you turn into this person, like who were you before?
• 41:08
  Speaker 4: Just seeing how the criminal justice system treated me versus
• 41:13
  Speaker 4: someone else. Seeing the documentary about the Central Park five
• 41:18
  Speaker 4: and great doctor, I lived not probably twenty maybe twenty
• 41:23
  Speaker 4: five blocks from the Central Park five people. I grew
• 41:27
  Speaker 4: up twenty five blocks away. That's not far. However, I
• 41:32
  Speaker 4: thought about the differences. I am white, come from a
• 41:35
  Speaker 4: middle class family. The cops treated me and I did
• 41:39
  Speaker 4: the same nasty stuff that they did. You know, you
• 41:45
  Speaker 4: accused them of being hooligans and doing this and that.
• 41:48
  Speaker 4: I looked at all that and said, this is nothing
• 41:51
  Speaker 4: compared to what my friends and I did and would
• 41:55
  Speaker 4: get arrested by the police.
• 41:57
  Speaker 5: You know, like we earned it.
• 42:00
  Speaker 4: Marriage through marriage to arrest so white merit, you know,
• 42:06
  Speaker 4: we got there through merriage, and this is like, you know,
• 42:09
  Speaker 4: this is as kids and this it was very inconsequential
• 42:13
  Speaker 4: type of trouble. Then I saw what they went through
• 42:16
  Speaker 4: versus myself, and that like flipped a switch.
• 42:19
  Speaker 1: I was going to say, was that your primary experience
• 42:21
  Speaker 1: with the criminal justice system, just as a lawyer who
• 42:24
  Speaker 1: does a lot of defense work. Like what was your
• 42:26
  Speaker 1: experience like was it mostly through policing or was it
• 42:29
  Speaker 1: the DA or was it with sentencing, Like what was
• 42:32
  Speaker 1: your sort of relationship to it as.
• 42:34
  Speaker 4: You I could just see, well, first off, my family
• 42:38
  Speaker 4: had means to support me.
• 42:40
  Speaker 5: Yeah, that's huge.
• 42:42
  Speaker 4: I saw the difference when I would hang out and
• 42:46
  Speaker 4: get in trouble with my friends that were not white.
• 42:50
  Speaker 4: They were They always went like, were like this around
• 42:52
  Speaker 4: the cops, like yes officer, yes, officer, and I would
• 42:55
  Speaker 4: always mouthed off. I remember walking through the park one
• 42:58
  Speaker 4: time and I was just being mouthy. Cops are there
• 43:03
  Speaker 4: like hey, parks closed, and my black friends are like yes, sorry, officer, sorry,
• 43:08
  Speaker 4: and I'm like it's okay, officer there with me. And
• 43:11
  Speaker 4: then I remember the cop car like just full speed
• 43:15
  Speaker 4: or throws everyone against the car and the cops like,
• 43:20
  Speaker 4: oh do you I'm sorry, I didn't hear you correctly. Meanwhile,
• 43:23
  Speaker 4: like my friends are getting cuffed and they're like, bro,
• 43:26
  Speaker 4: you've gotta dial that back, Like yeah, you know.
• 43:30
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 43:31
  Speaker 3: It's really interesting though. So obviously I grew up as
• 43:34
  Speaker 3: a black woman, but I remember being in high school
• 43:38
  Speaker 3: with some white friends and we were going into the
• 43:41
  Speaker 3: Genevies and my friend decided to shoplift and I and
• 43:46
  Speaker 3: immediately I was like, I cannot be a part of
• 43:49
  Speaker 3: this at all.
• 43:50
  Speaker 1: What's your friend Wayne? Yes?
• 43:51
  Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, and you know how I know the first
• 43:54
  Speaker 3: and the last name, but I won't say.
• 43:55
  Speaker 1: It, but but Genevie's was already a deep cut to
• 43:58
  Speaker 1: the nineties Bring her back, loved You.
• 44:01
  Speaker 3: But I mean, but there was this feeling of like,
• 44:05
  Speaker 3: I'm gonna just leave because I can't be anywhere near
• 44:08
  Speaker 3: you because I know that they are You'll be the
• 44:11
  Speaker 3: one who they're watching me. They're watching me. You know,
• 44:14
  Speaker 3: there's this feeling and you're like, you know what I'm
• 44:15
  Speaker 3: gonna go. You go ahead and shoplift your right, So.
• 44:20
  Speaker 2: No, no, no, I left, No, no, no.
• 44:22
  Speaker 4: It's it's actually funny because I remember one time I
• 44:26
  Speaker 4: was accused of shoplifting when I was not.
• 44:30
  Speaker 1: Meanwhile, every other time you were, and I.
• 44:32
  Speaker 4: Was like, yeah, every other time, like the one time
• 44:35
  Speaker 4: that I was not doing crime, And I remember just
• 44:38
  Speaker 4: being furious, and I was like, if that happened to
• 44:42
  Speaker 4: me more than once, damn it like something I paid
• 44:46
  Speaker 4: for that. They were like, you did not pay for them.
• 44:48
  Speaker 4: I was like, excuse me.
• 44:49
  Speaker 5: They like ran up on me and everything. And I
• 44:51
  Speaker 5: was like, and I'm like, how dare you?
• 44:53
  Speaker 4: And I was like, I am imagine if this happened
• 44:56
  Speaker 4: to me more than once it's just a regular occurrence,
• 44:58
  Speaker 4: I would because I was like I was a ten
• 45:02
  Speaker 4: at that moment.
• 45:02
  Speaker 1: Right, the way that we sort of relate to crime,
• 45:07
  Speaker 1: I just think it's just like so interesting to me
• 45:09
  Speaker 1: as someone who just like studies it, and then I
• 45:11
  Speaker 1: have to be in like the world around it. What
• 45:13
  Speaker 1: gets policed and what doesn't get policed? Right, We're constantly
• 45:16
  Speaker 1: talking about that on this show, and what I get
• 45:18
  Speaker 1: away with as a white man and a sue walking
• 45:20
  Speaker 1: past a security guard that other people don't. As you're
• 45:24
  Speaker 1: sort of approaching this, I mean, you're creating these videos,
• 45:27
  Speaker 1: you touched on it a little bit, What is the
• 45:30
  Speaker 1: positive outcome that you have seen? Like, I think it's
• 45:33
  Speaker 1: important for people to see. We're trying to give like
• 45:35
  Speaker 1: hopeful messages on the show any opportunity we can where
• 45:40
  Speaker 1: you do this what I find to be hilarious work.
• 45:42
  Speaker 1: You're a stand up comic, like you've got an improv background.
• 45:46
  Speaker 1: You go into these situations, you create these videos that
• 45:48
  Speaker 1: are just very entertaining to watch. What has there been
• 45:52
  Speaker 1: like a changed mind or a shift that you've witnessed,
• 45:55
  Speaker 1: or something that you have seen from doing this work
• 45:59
  Speaker 1: that you you've come away with us as being like
• 46:02
  Speaker 1: a positive experience for you. Yeah.
• 46:05
  Speaker 4: I think it's more like people are brought into the
• 46:09
  Speaker 4: fold and they I try to do something very sensational.
• 46:16
  Speaker 4: It's very sensational. It makes funny, Yeah, I try to
• 46:19
  Speaker 4: be funny. It's something and it's and it's something that
• 46:23
  Speaker 4: there are people that contact me saying that they've gotten
• 46:25
  Speaker 4: more involved because I this, you know, sort of made
• 46:29
  Speaker 4: it humorous. Yes, made it and they weren't really paying
• 46:33
  Speaker 4: attention prior, and then so that was that was the
• 46:36
  Speaker 4: hope of I mean, most people aren't really paying attention,
• 46:39
  Speaker 4: or most people are sort of overloaded, and there's I
• 46:42
  Speaker 4: always look for like what's the new medium to sort
• 46:45
  Speaker 4: of deliver this information. And so it's like, all right,
• 46:50
  Speaker 4: I could say that David Rubinstein is a climate criminal,
• 46:54
  Speaker 4: or I could say it at a charity benefit where
• 46:58
  Speaker 4: he's the main guest of honor, and I say it
• 47:00
  Speaker 4: to a room of three to four hundred people amidst
• 47:05
  Speaker 4: dead silence, right, and then and I film it and
• 47:09
  Speaker 4: then people are like, oh, David Rubinstein, climate criminal, private equity,
• 47:14
  Speaker 4: public anime, got it right. And then it's versus me
• 47:19
  Speaker 4: just saying that's a camera, right. Other people are very
• 47:22
  Speaker 4: eloquent with that and can make an impact. I tried
• 47:26
  Speaker 4: to you better in that in that.
• 47:28
  Speaker 3: Regard, right, I mean it's I think we're Michael and
• 47:31
  Speaker 3: I were talking about this before. It's like, you have
• 47:33
  Speaker 3: this certain skill set, right, this is what you're really
• 47:36
  Speaker 3: good at, and this is something that you are passionate about.
• 47:39
  Speaker 2: You worry about it.
• 47:40
  Speaker 3: So you're taking your skill set, you're taking your talent,
• 47:42
  Speaker 3: and you're making it so that now other people are
• 47:45
  Speaker 3: become aware of it, right, and they'll figure out what
• 47:48
  Speaker 3: they can do. But this is what you do.
• 47:50
  Speaker 5: Yeah.
• 47:51
  Speaker 4: Yeah, So I'd had someone that came up to me
• 47:54
  Speaker 4: and told me that they were radicalized by my video
• 47:58
  Speaker 4: where my friends and I I disrupted and shut down
• 48:02
  Speaker 4: Andrew Cuomo's press event.
• 48:04
  Speaker 1: It felt good for you that I saw I saw
• 48:07
  Speaker 1: that video. I love that.
• 48:08
  Speaker 4: I'm such a Cuomo water so please Oh yeah, no,
• 48:10
  Speaker 4: that was that was lovely. It was just we showed up,
• 48:13
  Speaker 4: we outnumbered him. We outnumbered his staff, We outnumbered his supporters,
• 48:18
  Speaker 4: we outnumbered the press.
• 48:19
  Speaker 1: That it was a really small event. It was like this,
• 48:22
  Speaker 1: like in New York. If you're not if you're watching this,
• 48:24
  Speaker 1: then you're not. In New York, they do these little
• 48:26
  Speaker 1: like pop up, Oh, I'm out of school. I think
• 48:28
  Speaker 1: it was at a library or something.
• 48:29
  Speaker 5: In front of a school.
• 48:31
  Speaker 4: Yes, and I showed up with a print out from
• 48:33
  Speaker 4: the Board of Education saying that he did not have
• 48:36
  Speaker 4: consent to use this school the school to.
• 48:40
  Speaker 1: The camp ahead.
• 48:40
  Speaker 4: Then this is the email from the Department of Education
• 48:47
  Speaker 4: saying they don't have a mission.
• 48:50
  Speaker 1: To be in front of the school or inside the school.
• 48:55
  Speaker 4: And they grabbed his campaign grabbed me first. And then
• 48:59
  Speaker 4: meanwhile there's six seven, eight people already in front of
• 49:03
  Speaker 4: him that they didn't recognize that.
• 49:05
  Speaker 1: They were like, I remember that, you really outnumbered like
• 49:12
  Speaker 1: his staffers.
• 49:13
  Speaker 4: And it was live on Fox Now. So for just
• 49:17
  Speaker 4: ten minutes, he was just getting dogged mercilessly. The thing
• 49:21
  Speaker 4: that he came there to talk about didn't get addressed
• 49:25
  Speaker 4: at all, and I was not at all. That's great,
• 49:27
  Speaker 4: that's a way he was there to He was there
• 49:30
  Speaker 4: to talk about defunding public education. That didn't get talked about.
• 49:35
  Speaker 4: I was happy. I'm like, great, but you talked to
• 49:38
  Speaker 4: the winner of that race. You talked to mom TONI recently.
• 49:41
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I talked to him. Yeah.
• 49:43
  Speaker 4: It was It's funny I got to interview him right
• 49:46
  Speaker 4: before he became a phenomenon. It was it was really
• 49:49
  Speaker 4: kind of this kind of inside baseball where I'm like,
• 49:52
  Speaker 4: I interviewed him. I posted the video and didn't go anywhere.
• 49:55
  Speaker 4: People were like, yeah, whatever, bro like.
• 49:57
  Speaker 1: But then then it comes back later. There's always that
• 50:00
  Speaker 1: like resuscitation on the internet.
• 50:02
  Speaker 4: Then he became becomes a phenomenon a month later, and
• 50:06
  Speaker 4: I was like, oh cool, I got I got that
• 50:09
  Speaker 4: of this.
• 50:09
  Speaker 5: I felt good. I was like, okay, you know what,
• 50:11
  Speaker 5: I'm not just riding the way I was.
• 50:14
  Speaker 1: There before the d L.
• 50:18
  Speaker 4: Yeah that was That was nice, and that is it is.
• 50:22
  Speaker 4: It has been refreshing to speak to him to where
• 50:24
  Speaker 4: he's actually He gives clear, concise answers.
• 50:28
  Speaker 5: To address what you ask.
• 50:31
  Speaker 4: He's not afraid of his own ideas, whereas I feel
• 50:34
  Speaker 4: like most the Democratic Party at large is terrified of
• 50:39
  Speaker 4: their own ideas.
• 50:41
  Speaker 5: Like think about it. They healthcare of housing as a
• 50:46
  Speaker 5: human right, water is a human right.
• 50:49
  Speaker 4: Environment and you know, education, education, all this stuff, and
• 50:54
  Speaker 4: they are terrified of their own platform.
• 50:58
  Speaker 1: Actually implementing that platform. Right. We see Governor Hokel all
• 51:01
  Speaker 1: the time just sort of, oh, I'm going to do
• 51:02
  Speaker 1: this big bold thing and then dials it back a
• 51:07
  Speaker 1: couple of weeks.
• 51:08
  Speaker 4: Ago, yeah, and then just says something very milk toast.
• 51:13
  Speaker 4: And then meanwhile you get Trump and his crew coming
• 51:17
  Speaker 4: in saying we should deport every Somali, not Somali immigrants,
• 51:22
  Speaker 4: just smalog just and there's.
• 51:26
  Speaker 5: There is a level to it. You're like, you know what,
• 51:29
  Speaker 5: nothing matters anymore. We're going to call you it, just
• 51:31
  Speaker 5: just say what you but you believe they're going to
• 51:33
  Speaker 5: call your communists.
• 51:34
  Speaker 4: They're going to accuse you of trying to make everyone
• 51:37
  Speaker 4: trans and you know you're Soorrows backed and they're going
• 51:40
  Speaker 4: to say this anyway. Uh, you know, you know, you're
• 51:44
  Speaker 4: you're all you're automatically and Israel hating Palestinian loving communists
• 51:51
  Speaker 4: that wants to open our borders and you know, just
• 51:54
  Speaker 4: just lean into it.
• 51:56
  Speaker 1: Do you see like a ripple effect of that, the
• 51:59
  Speaker 1: fact that he did not back down from his platform
• 52:03
  Speaker 1: and full chested was like you know what, These are
• 52:06
  Speaker 1: the three things I'm going to do no matter what
• 52:08
  Speaker 1: anyone says. And he stuck with that, and he's still
• 52:10
  Speaker 1: sticking with it.
• 52:11
  Speaker 5: I think and think about this, So think about if
• 52:16
  Speaker 5: he had lost, Right, if he had lost, what would
• 52:21
  Speaker 5: be happening right now? Forget the fact that yes, Cuomo
• 52:25
  Speaker 5: would be the mayor. If he had lost, the entire
• 52:29
  Speaker 5: Democratic Party would take a harder right turn.
• 52:36
  Speaker 6: And it would be a aggressive ideal. Yes, it would
• 52:39
  Speaker 6: be a mandate. It would basically the mandate would be
• 52:43
  Speaker 6: progressive pism loses elections, you will, You'll even lose in
• 52:48
  Speaker 6: New York.
• 52:48
  Speaker 1: But if he did lose, it would mean right that
• 52:52
  Speaker 1: any progressive ideal is a campaign killer, that we have
• 52:56
  Speaker 1: to stay centrist, that we have to in their narrative
• 52:59
  Speaker 1: party line, Yes exactly, because oh look, well it didn't
• 53:02
  Speaker 1: work with Therefore.
• 53:04
  Speaker 4: They run to go further and they run these very
• 53:07
  Speaker 4: establishment campaigns, very uninspiring campaigns. Everyone else has to do
• 53:13
  Speaker 4: the work of spreading the message because they're just terrible
• 53:16
  Speaker 4: at this. And then when they lose the number one
• 53:20
  Speaker 4: talking point as well, they were too progressive, and they're
• 53:23
  Speaker 4: saying this about people that are It's like hurts my
• 53:28
  Speaker 4: brain to call Biden a communists, to hold the communists,
• 53:33
  Speaker 4: And I'm like, I'm like, you know.
• 53:34
  Speaker 3: What was a prosecutor right, the sort of establishment Joe
• 53:38
  Speaker 3: Biden who's like been part of.
• 53:39
  Speaker 4: The government's famous Marxist Yeah, you know, yeah, famous Marxists,
• 53:45
  Speaker 4: Joe Biden, stuff like that, And so that is that
• 53:49
  Speaker 4: to me is in the past year. I mean I
• 53:51
  Speaker 4: used to be like, yes, oh, we hate Maggot, we
• 53:53
  Speaker 4: hate Trump. In the past year, I'm like, you know what,
• 53:56
  Speaker 4: I can open that tent to the Democratic Party, you know,
• 53:59
  Speaker 4: my truly, you know I can. I can fit the
• 54:03
  Speaker 4: Democratic Party in that tent. Too big tent.
• 54:06
  Speaker 2: It's a big tent, and they're so big tech. We're disappointing.
• 54:10
  Speaker 3: They're so disappointing. It's it's actually, it's like kind of sickening.
• 54:14
  Speaker 3: It's like you you.
• 54:17
  Speaker 2: Guys aren't standing for.
• 54:18
  Speaker 4: Agg And just for the record, it's the off season.
• 54:21
  Speaker 4: I mean, if there was an election two weeks from now,
• 54:24
  Speaker 4: I would be saying, hey, my god, have you seen
• 54:27
  Speaker 4: Gavin Newsom's new meme? He just released a new meme. God,
• 54:31
  Speaker 4: it's a new meme. Nancy Pelosi, Oh man, that's Queen Hillary.
• 54:41
  Speaker 1: Hillary is back on the scene. Oh my god. Yeah, bus,
• 54:46
  Speaker 1: Now that we are in the.
• 54:49
  Speaker 4: Now, yeah, when the elections two weeks from now, you'll
• 54:54
  Speaker 4: be like, oh my god, yes, we'll have you.
• 54:56
  Speaker 1: Back on right before the Oh my god, we love
• 54:59
  Speaker 1: the Democrat establishment. Chuck Schumer, get any your honey, Jeffries,
• 55:07
  Speaker 1: Oh my god, Jeffries.
• 55:08
  Speaker 4: You see that picture with him, He's holding a baseball
• 55:11
  Speaker 4: bat baseball is holding the batiful.
• 55:16
  Speaker 5: It was just oh my god.
• 55:19
  Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, So was there anything in the news cycle
• 55:21
  Speaker 1: where we're sort of trying to cover a little bit
• 55:23
  Speaker 1: more of like the the news cycle as we come
• 55:25
  Speaker 1: into the studio. We were talking.
• 55:27
  Speaker 5: About Puffy before the documentary.
• 55:31
  Speaker 1: Documentary this weekend. Oh man, okay, so.
• 55:34
  Speaker 4: Just some random t this is unverified and stuff like that.
• 55:40
  Speaker 4: But it's like my own personal experience is if you're
• 55:43
  Speaker 4: part of the club scene in the aughts, country club
• 55:47
  Speaker 4: or the teens, the nightclub scene in New York City
• 55:53
  Speaker 4: during that time, anyone that I would meet would talk
• 55:58
  Speaker 4: about how did he loved to get filated by men?
• 56:05
  Speaker 4: And it was a power thing. Anyone would explain that
• 56:08
  Speaker 4: to you, and it was such a pervasive thing that
• 56:12
  Speaker 4: I ignored it. I hate these like black rumors of like
• 56:16
  Speaker 4: black men. They're all d l right, and it was
• 56:18
  Speaker 4: something like a stop it like right, because it would
• 56:21
  Speaker 4: always come with other stuff. However, everyone that like went
• 56:25
  Speaker 4: out regularly to clubs had some connection with Diddy.
• 56:29
  Speaker 5: They all repeated this. They were like, oh.
• 56:31
  Speaker 4: Yeah no, and they all would were very clear that
• 56:33
  Speaker 4: it wasn't about uh sexuality, It was about power. It
• 56:38
  Speaker 4: was power based, and we liked big men to like
• 56:42
  Speaker 4: get on their knees and submit to him.
• 56:44
  Speaker 5: That was a very you know, it was like it
• 56:47
  Speaker 5: was like almost like an open secret.
• 56:49
  Speaker 1: It was yeah, well, I mean like the Cosby rumors
• 56:52
  Speaker 1: were around for forever, actual core.
• 56:57
  Speaker 5: Cases, open secret stuff like that.
• 57:00
  Speaker 1: But the documentary is out now, Yeah, and fifty cent
• 57:05
  Speaker 1: is out on the media circuit.
• 57:07
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, he's on that junket and the.
• 57:09
  Speaker 1: Rector doing interviews on ABC.
• 57:12
  Speaker 5: We don't like, this is a guy is not he's maga.
• 57:16
  Speaker 4: He probably has really awful opinions about the Me Too
• 57:19
  Speaker 4: movement and he's doing a documentary talking about his nemesis. Yeah,
• 57:25
  Speaker 4: but like interering people that came forward with essay allegations
• 57:30
  Speaker 4: and how we should believe them and I guarantee you
• 57:33
  Speaker 4: if did he wasn't his nemesis, he wouldn't be believing
• 57:37
  Speaker 4: any of these people.
• 57:38
  Speaker 5: So let's just get that. Let's just get that out
• 57:40
  Speaker 5: of the way.
• 57:40
  Speaker 3: Yeah, this is this is not somebody who's doing this
• 57:43
  Speaker 3: for the greater good to put the information out there.
• 57:45
  Speaker 3: It's because he hates him, and he's just like, you
• 57:48
  Speaker 3: know what, I'm going to take the step that we
• 57:50
  Speaker 3: already know and I'm going to fan the flame of
• 57:52
  Speaker 3: this right and also like.
• 57:54
  Speaker 2: His career isn't like what do we have heard about
• 57:56
  Speaker 2: the radio?
• 57:57
  Speaker 1: But what do we what do we think about this though?
• 57:59
  Speaker 1: Because there's this is like an ethical conundrum, right because
• 58:01
  Speaker 1: ultimately these essays survivors are getting facetimed, their stories are
• 58:06
  Speaker 1: being told. It's being told by a hater. He's playing
• 58:09
  Speaker 1: it on ABC, so that did he can watch it
• 58:10
  Speaker 1: in prison because ABC plays on prison televisions. Like there
• 58:15
  Speaker 1: is that piece right of Like fifty cent is a
• 58:19
  Speaker 1: hater and a MAGA supporter and doing this for all
• 58:23
  Speaker 1: the wrong reasons, but the outcome is actually supporting Zanes right,
• 58:29
  Speaker 1: Like I'm yeah, I'm like I'll take the win where
• 58:33
  Speaker 1: I can get it. I guess you know, if we're
• 58:35
  Speaker 1: just like, when are we gonna it's never gonna be perfect, right.
• 58:38
  Speaker 3: If we're waiting for the perfect methode right there, there
• 58:43
  Speaker 3: is no personal messages, and this is information that's it's
• 58:48
  Speaker 3: important and people are interested in if it's coming from CDJ.
• 58:55
  Speaker 1: Just throw up a photo of fifty cent, just his
• 58:58
  Speaker 1: wide smile, and the ABC interview is because he's absolutely
• 59:01
  Speaker 1: delighted to talk on camera where he knows almost.
• 59:06
  Speaker 3: But it's almost what's the word, like it's so unseemly
• 59:09
  Speaker 3: His joy at this is like unseemly, right, Like, ye,
• 59:13
  Speaker 3: we all know that they hated each other, right, So
• 59:16
  Speaker 3: this is not somebody who's just like I just thought
• 59:17
  Speaker 3: it was really.
• 59:18
  Speaker 5: Important that everybody knows.
• 59:19
  Speaker 3: Oh, this is just like I hate this motherfucker and
• 59:22
  Speaker 3: and that's because that's what it is. It's like I
• 59:26
  Speaker 3: I hate him, and I want him to know that
• 59:29
  Speaker 3: I hate him, and I want everybody else to know.
• 59:31
  Speaker 2: This is how much I hate you. I hate you
• 59:33
  Speaker 2: so much that I am willing to invest my own
• 59:36
  Speaker 2: time and resources into this documentary that is going to
• 59:40
  Speaker 2: sort of further chop you up into bits. But the
• 59:43
  Speaker 2: flip side about it is he deserves it right, So
• 59:45
  Speaker 2: it's like this weird place.
• 59:47
  Speaker 4: And it's and it's a shame because prior to these
• 59:51
  Speaker 4: essay allegations, this is gonna sound very weird. Just I
• 59:56
  Speaker 4: am not condoning his essay allegations. I don't like Diddy, okay,
• 1:00:01
  Speaker 4: And this is a very left handed compliment to him.
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 4: Let's just say left handed compliment is that he was
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 4: an inspirational figure because he was an incredibly mediocre person
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 4: that was hugely successful. I mean, not the best music producer, No,
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 4: not the best rapper, new horrendous actor, horrendous. However, this
• 1:00:30
  Speaker 4: is a man who had multiple hit records, owned his
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 4: own label, terrible clothing designer, owned his own successful clothing line,
• 1:00:39
  Speaker 4: and he was the lead on.
• 1:00:42
  Speaker 5: A Broadway show.
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 1: God.
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 4: I looked at that and I thought, I mean, you
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 4: could be anything. This is a mediocre human being.
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 1: Let that inspire you that you could do that. Reba
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 1: McIntyre can have a lip glass line with no upper
• 1:00:58
  Speaker 1: lip like you. Let these things stop you from succeeding from.
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 4: Mac famous for not essaying Anyoneba, this one goes out
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 4: to you.
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 5: Yeah, just you can have all the lip here's your
• 1:01:14
  Speaker 5: last chance.
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 2: Fancy, don't let.
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 4: Yeah, like, oh my god, but yeah, incredibly mediocre driven
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 4: human being that just.
• 1:01:25
  Speaker 1: Reached don't let mediocrity stand in your dream.
• 1:01:29
  Speaker 5: Yeah, just I think that's what we should should show
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 5: that the.
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 1: Cake, No, it's stitched onto it like a cross stitch
• 1:01:34
  Speaker 1: on the pillow at my therapist off.
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 5: Like listen, don't listen. You can you know, go for
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 5: your dreams. Kids. I mean, if this mediocre may.
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 3: It can also be countless and you too could become
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 3: presidents of.
• 1:01:49
  Speaker 1: All sorts of conspiracy.
• 1:01:50
  Speaker 4: And just for the record, Diddy helped Elon Musk by Twitter,
• 1:01:56
  Speaker 4: So I feel like people.
• 1:01:57
  Speaker 1: Famously good for society.
• 1:01:59
  Speaker 4: Yeah, so Owning if you're thinking, I mean, what good
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 4: did did he do? I mean he helped Elon Musk
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 4: President Musk by Twitter, and it was just so I mean,
• 1:02:09
  Speaker 4: let's not let's you know. I think we need to
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 4: all remember just good friends with Trump, good friends with Elon,
• 1:02:17
  Speaker 4: friends with the worst people we had.
• 1:02:19
  Speaker 1: I just remember that first day of Twitter when just
• 1:02:23
  Speaker 1: every slur was back, Oh yeah, all over Twitter. Do
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 1: you have a favorite conspiracy theory?
• 1:02:29
  Speaker 3: Is?
• 1:02:29
  Speaker 1: Is there like a conspiracy theory that you're like this one?
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 4: There?
• 1:02:35
  Speaker 1: I think I think Luigi didn't do it. That's my conspiracy.
• 1:02:39
  Speaker 1: I don't mean that's not him at McDonald's.
• 1:02:44
  Speaker 4: I mean, we don't even know what happened that day, really,
• 1:02:47
  Speaker 4: and if.
• 1:02:47
  Speaker 1: You look at the photos, I'm like, this is not
• 1:02:49
  Speaker 1: the same person. Like what do we even care?
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 5: I mean, yeah, I mean, I just yeah.
• 1:02:57
  Speaker 4: My My favorite conspiracy is the bullet diary that Cash
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 4: Patel f Cash Betel's FBI leaves behind every active murder scene.
• 1:03:09
  Speaker 4: I mean, we all remember, I've heard about that episode
• 1:03:12
  Speaker 4: of Law and Order where they go to an active
• 1:03:15
  Speaker 4: crime scene and they tweet out all of the evidence
• 1:03:21
  Speaker 4: confirmed and unconfirmed on I don't remember, And there's bullets
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 4: with just bullet diaries everywhere. I did it, Nancy Pelosi,
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 4: we love her, Chuck Schumer king king right on the bullet,
• 1:03:38
  Speaker 4: right on the bullet and then with a text message
• 1:03:41
  Speaker 4: to thanks to Cash Patel's FBI.
• 1:03:44
  Speaker 1: Tweeted that out.
• 1:03:45
  Speaker 5: Yeah, and they just yeah, it goes, it goes out immediately.
• 1:03:48
  Speaker 4: Forget waiting for detectives to corroborate, violate, or even to
• 1:03:56
  Speaker 4: fiolate and log it into evidence.
• 1:03:59
  Speaker 5: I mean, and who needs that?
• 1:04:01
  Speaker 1: Are you a Law and Order fan? There's a show
• 1:04:03
  Speaker 1: on this network that does recaps of that was.
• 1:04:06
  Speaker 4: Actually fun fact. I was actually online Order SVU.
• 1:04:11
  Speaker 2: Were you a victim? Were you the perpetrator? Were you
• 1:04:13
  Speaker 2: a witness?
• 1:04:14
  Speaker 1: I was on the show.
• 1:04:15
  Speaker 4: Please be clear, I'm not in real life on the
• 1:04:18
  Speaker 4: show on s Yes.
• 1:04:20
  Speaker 5: Not I r L. It's one of these things.
• 1:04:23
  Speaker 4: It's one of those things where they happened upon someone
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 4: who's doing something questionable, but this is not the actual criminal.
• 1:04:32
  Speaker 4: So the cops just sort of go, like, you know what,
• 1:04:35
  Speaker 4: whatever you're doing this is, but you know what, like
• 1:04:39
  Speaker 4: we have an essay crime to solve here, but you're
• 1:04:44
  Speaker 4: an asshole.
• 1:04:45
  Speaker 5: You know one of those scenes Season ten, episode one,
• 1:04:49
  Speaker 5: it was with.
• 1:04:50
  Speaker 1: That paycheck hit hard. I love it.
• 1:04:53
  Speaker 4: Oh this is back those back before streaming was pervasive.
• 1:04:58
  Speaker 1: Are you still getting check?
• 1:05:00
  Speaker 4: I got royalty checks, tons of them. When there's more syndication,
• 1:05:06
  Speaker 4: because people would say, oh, I saw you on Loan Order,
• 1:05:08
  Speaker 4: and I'd.
• 1:05:08
  Speaker 5: Go what channel, what network? And they go NBC and I.
• 1:05:13
  Speaker 2: Go, oh yeah, give me that.
• 1:05:17
  Speaker 4: I'm getting old days pay again verse. Then they'd say
• 1:05:22
  Speaker 4: oh I saw on Netflix and I go, good away from.
• 1:05:25
  Speaker 1: Why did you even watch it? Come stream it on YouTube?
• 1:05:29
  Speaker 4: I knew I would get like something like maybe like
• 1:05:32
  Speaker 4: you know, a few several hundred dollars. If it was
• 1:05:34
  Speaker 4: a USA T and T well in Marathon versus Netflix Netflix,
• 1:05:40
  Speaker 4: I'd be like, Oh god, damn.
• 1:05:41
  Speaker 1: It is there something you want to plug on the show.
• 1:05:44
  Speaker 4: Come join me on my stand up tour. I'm going
• 1:05:47
  Speaker 4: through d C, Boston, Phoenix, Colorado, San Francisco, San Diego,
• 1:05:56
  Speaker 4: and yeah, join me see me.
• 1:05:59
  Speaker 5: I r L I'm really funny.
• 1:06:01
  Speaker 2: Oh you are hystor I'm really funny.
• 1:06:03
  Speaker 1: I make people laugh. Funny people famously have to beg
• 1:06:07
  Speaker 1: you to believe they're funny.
• 1:06:08
  Speaker 4: Yeah, that's you know, the same comedy is that you
• 1:06:11
  Speaker 4: have is good comedy is when you have to explain
• 1:06:14
  Speaker 4: the joke right afterwards.
• 1:06:17
  Speaker 1: It's beautiful because.
• 1:06:18
  Speaker 5: It went over everyone's head.
• 1:06:19
  Speaker 1: Yeah, there's a lawsuit we covered in law school, just
• 1:06:21
  Speaker 1: real quick shout out uh, where there was a joke
• 1:06:25
  Speaker 1: about a contract where you like got a plane if
• 1:06:28
  Speaker 1: you got enough PepsiCo tickets. It's like a famous lawsuit
• 1:06:31
  Speaker 1: and the judge and the clerk had to explain the
• 1:06:34
  Speaker 1: joke of the commercial. It just ruined the whole thing.
• 1:06:39
  Speaker 1: Oh god, it was. It was great anyway, Oh my god, wait,
• 1:06:42
  Speaker 1: I want to know that. I'll send you. I'll send
• 1:06:44
  Speaker 1: it to you.
• 1:06:44
  Speaker 3: Yeah, Walter, you have a website, right, yes, yeah, so
• 1:06:49
  Speaker 3: we'll plug it where you ticket, you'll signed, where you
• 1:06:52
  Speaker 3: can get tickets and everything on your website.
• 1:06:53
  Speaker 2: Amazing.
• 1:06:54
  Speaker 1: But you were in Chicago and Portland are just going.
• 1:06:58
  Speaker 4: Crazy a comedy tour before Trump decided to send National
• 1:07:04
  Speaker 4: Guard into all of these cities and ice, And so
• 1:07:08
  Speaker 4: I went to Chicago, Portland. Yeah, I went to Philly
• 1:07:15
  Speaker 4: and then also Seattle. And while I was there, I
• 1:07:19
  Speaker 4: went to the ICE facilities and spoke to activists and basically,
• 1:07:25
  Speaker 4: Chicago I think has it the worst because it's not
• 1:07:29
  Speaker 4: targeted in I mean, listen, the white supremacist playbook is
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  Speaker 4: to put it in certain areas and disperse it in
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  Speaker 4: certain areas so that the neoliberals can go like what
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  Speaker 4: what like we're not So it's not like that in Chicago.
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  Speaker 4: It's everywhere all the time, and it is just a
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  Speaker 4: hellhole with regards to that, because parents do not feel
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  Speaker 4: safe letting their children walk alone to school if they're black,
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  Speaker 4: if they're even if they're walking next to someone that
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  Speaker 4: is not white. It's like Hey, you know what, You're
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  Speaker 4: going to be stopped, you might be kidnapped, you'll be
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  Speaker 4: swept up with someone else. So they don't let children
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  Speaker 4: walk to school. There's tons of organizations that walk children
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  Speaker 4: to school and stand there during pick up. Portland's very
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  Speaker 4: similar to We're going.
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  Speaker 1: To list those organizations so that you can support them. Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, Like there's very small Mutual Aid, Pilsen, Community Defense,
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  Speaker 4: and great ones that just are very they're only known
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  Speaker 4: in the community. Portland is insane as well. Yeah, and
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  Speaker 4: they are like that ICE facility has snipers standing on
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  Speaker 4: the roof at night, purely for intimidation. No one is
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  Speaker 4: trying to break into this facility. They are nasty and
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  Speaker 4: they just behave like they're completely above the law. And
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  Speaker 4: I'm saying this. You know, any Democrat that wants to
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  Speaker 4: run for office says that they're going to reform ICE
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  Speaker 4: under this, I'm like, no, this is an agency that
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  Speaker 4: needs to be completely eradicated, right, you cannot reform these people.
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  Speaker 4: These people are joined to behave.
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  Speaker 3: Like yeah, and it thugs and it does seem to me,
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  Speaker 3: like you know, when you're sort of like getting a
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  Speaker 3: picture of the kind of person who's like all right,
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  Speaker 3: this is what I'm going this is my calling, right,
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  Speaker 3: I'm going to be a part of ICE. It's when
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  Speaker 3: I think about it, it is the person that you
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  Speaker 3: went to high school or elementary school who was like
• 1:09:30
  Speaker 3: the bully, who like never really amounted to anything.
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  Speaker 2: And it's like, and this is their.
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  Speaker 3: Opportunity to shine, right because they're they're not really good
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  Speaker 3: at anything. So I'm gonna do this and it gives
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  Speaker 3: me an opportunity to be a bully. I'm a professional bully.
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  Speaker 3: I'm getting paid for it. And it's like it sort
• 1:09:50
  Speaker 3: of amps themselves up when they were like probably like that, yeah,
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  Speaker 3: and it's probably they were probably living in their mother's
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  Speaker 3: basement and not doing anything.
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  Speaker 2: And now they're like important, you know what I mean.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, they're getting a signing bone, they're getting a full salary.
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  Speaker 4: None of that signing bonus is going towards child support
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  Speaker 4: payments at.
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  Speaker 6: All, right, and just you know, confirmed, fact check it confirmed.
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  Speaker 5: I mean, come on, you know put that you know,
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  Speaker 5: signing bonus towards child.
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  Speaker 2: Support payments ye live twenty nine, Yeah, come on.
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  Speaker 4: But that was that was the case when I had
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  Speaker 4: visited ICE facilities and spoken to people on the ground
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  Speaker 4: in the communities there, I mean, Chicago, Portland I think
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  Speaker 4: are the absolute worst. Yeah, in terms of and on
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  Speaker 4: top of that, you have tons of MAGA grifters showing
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  Speaker 4: up to those facilities.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. I saw you talking to some of them.
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  Speaker 5: I saw make content and be like, look at you know.
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  Speaker 1: This, look at how great this is.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, and they show up with don't tread on me hats.
• 1:10:52
  Speaker 4: So the only people with it don't tread on me
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  Speaker 4: flags are counter protesting.
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  Speaker 5: You haven't gat since I saw it.
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  Speaker 4: They don't tread on me should be on the other side,
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  Speaker 4: you're counter protesting with a Gadston flag. There's one video
• 1:11:04
  Speaker 4: I'm speaking to a guy. I'm like, you're wearing a
• 1:11:07
  Speaker 4: Gadsden flag hat. They just you cannot This is there's
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  Speaker 4: literally states rights, states rights, states rights. Don't tread on me,
• 1:11:17
  Speaker 4: you know, let the states decide. This is the opposite
• 1:11:20
  Speaker 4: of letting the states exactly. This is the you don't
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  Speaker 4: know what that means. You're just like the snake chopped
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  Speaker 4: up image. You don't know what that actually means, or.
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  Speaker 2: Don't know what it means. They don't know what it means.
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  Speaker 3: And I mean, and I wonder do they do they
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  Speaker 3: even realize how stupid they are?
• 1:11:36
  Speaker 4: I or I honestly think that it's more of like,
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  Speaker 4: we voted for this, this is exactly what we want,
• 1:11:42
  Speaker 4: and they're made interested in debating or being consistent. They're
• 1:11:46
  Speaker 4: in a position right now where they can say, listen,
• 1:11:49
  Speaker 4: this is what I want. I don't care, and I'm
• 1:11:51
  Speaker 4: not trying to, you know, play into some consistency with
• 1:11:55
  Speaker 4: you about this. This is exactly what I want. I
• 1:11:58
  Speaker 4: don't care that I have rights and they don't. I
• 1:12:01
  Speaker 4: want the fifth and fourteenth Amendment to apply to myself, yep,
• 1:12:07
  Speaker 4: and only.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, and there's such there's so many blind spots with that, right,
• 1:12:11
  Speaker 1: Like they voted for all of this, But did you
• 1:12:14
  Speaker 1: vote for higher cost for groceries? Like did you vote
• 1:12:18
  Speaker 1: for gas prices to go up? Like? Did you vote
• 1:12:21
  Speaker 1: for tariffs to increase everything? For cost of living is
• 1:12:26
  Speaker 1: going did you vote for the lowest job numbers in
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  Speaker 1: almost a decade?
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  Speaker 4: Well, but listen, you're losing sight of the big picture here,
• 1:12:35
  Speaker 4: which is okay, you can now say gay retard at work? Yeah, right,
• 1:12:39
  Speaker 4: there are two trans players is all over. Yeah, there's
• 1:12:44
  Speaker 4: two trans volleyball players nationwide that won't get to play
• 1:12:49
  Speaker 4: volleyball this year, and that's it's worse than the decimation
• 1:12:53
  Speaker 4: of the lands.
• 1:12:55
  Speaker 1: Yeah, this is the comedy you're going to get on
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  Speaker 1: Walter's tour. Get in there, get tickets. Waltermasterson dot com.
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  Speaker 1: Thank you for joining us. We got a chance to
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  Speaker 1: chat today. I mean, Walter was just so great and incredible.
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  Speaker 2: I did not take hilarious to be anything other than what.
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  Speaker 1: We got to go to his show. If he's got
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  Speaker 1: dates in New York, we should go. We'll take a selfie,
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  Speaker 1: we will, Okay, Just quick YouTube comment, Michael, does your
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  Speaker 1: husband near your bagel order? Yes, he does. I have
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  Speaker 1: a couple of different bagel orders and he knows all
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  Speaker 1: of them based off my mood and what happened the
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  Speaker 1: night before because I can't eat locks. If I was
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  Speaker 1: drinking hard liquor the night before, I get nash. Thank
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  Speaker 1: you so much for watching. I'm Michael Foot, I'm Melissa
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  Speaker 2: Not me. I don't go to court.
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