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Patriots Unfiltered 2/6: Final Coaching Staff Updates, Super Bowl Predictions, Draft Prospects · Patriots Unfiltered

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  Speaker 3: Welcome to Patriot's Unfiltered.
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  Speaker 2: They had media night last night down in New Orleans,
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  Speaker 2: and it doesn't have the organic nature it used to have.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, maybe I'm just jelly because I'm not down there.
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  Speaker 4: With Myles Garrett. It's the same situation, like he obviously
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  Speaker 4: wants out of Cleveland.
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  Speaker 5: I heard it might go to the Lakers exactly if
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  Speaker 2: Paul doesn't like the Celtics and Evan done.
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  Speaker 2: I don't I get Why do they want to trade
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  Speaker 2: him just to offload the salary. He's not toast. He
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  Speaker 2: might be injured, but when he's out there, he's done
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  Speaker 2: okay lately, but he's okay. He toasts.
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  Speaker 4: He's in the toaster, like I don't know if he's done,
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  Speaker 4: but warming.
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  Speaker 2: All right, welcome the Patriots Unfiltered. It is Thursday here
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  Speaker 2: at Jillette Stadium, cold and snowy, and we're expecting even
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  Speaker 2: more snow for Super Bowl Sunday. So if you've got plans,
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  Speaker 2: you might want to get there early and don't plan
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  Speaker 2: on leaving because at least you're in this area. Because
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  Speaker 2: it's supposed to we're supposed to get dumped on anyway.
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  Speaker 2: I'll be warm and cozy in the house watching Super Bowl.
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  Speaker 2: I watch all the pregame stuff. Do you guys watch
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  Speaker 2: the previews? Oh?
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, you get into that.
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  Speaker 6: I put it on so I like to have the atmosphere.
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  Speaker 2: That's not watch I'm with my So what I'll do,
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  Speaker 2: I'll put on ESPN early and then as soon as
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  Speaker 2: the network that's covering the game starts their coverage, then
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  Speaker 2: I turned to that and all the way through.
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  Speaker 6: I like that. I like that.
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  Speaker 2: That's my plan.
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  Speaker 5: I just like watching pre game stuff.
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  Speaker 4: No, because usually got a lot of ball knowing we're
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  Speaker 4: in transit to wherever we're going to be watching the game.
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  Speaker 4: So I wouldn't say that, but the Puppy Bowl. Probably
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  Speaker 4: watch that in the morning.
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  Speaker 6: Very cute.
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  Speaker 4: Yep ye catch a little bit of that.
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  Speaker 2: So at seven, it's Paul, it's Deuce. It's still a
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  Speaker 2: well tanned Alex And yeah, Tanorama, is that what you're doing? No, okay,
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  Speaker 2: it's all natural. So we're talking Patriots and everything else
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  Speaker 2: for the next two hours. We did have a big
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  Speaker 2: announcement from the Patriots, you know, not breaking news, but
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  Speaker 2: it firmed up all the reports that we've been talking
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  Speaker 2: about in terms of who are the coaches going to be.
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  Speaker 2: And Paul, you have that list in front of you.
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  Speaker 2: Wanted to go down the list and let us know
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  Speaker 2: the twenty twenty five new England Patriots coaching staff.
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  Speaker 5: So we can now no longer have to say that
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  Speaker 5: these aren't official. These are now official. So offensively we
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  Speaker 5: have Josh McDaniel's defensive coordinator obviously, Thomas Brown tight ends
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  Speaker 5: passing game coordinator, Doug Maron. Offensive line Jason Hodeling, I
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  Speaker 5: do that right, perfect, assistant offensive line, Robert Coogler assistant
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  Speaker 5: offensive line. So again, two assistant offensive line coaches. I
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  Speaker 5: guess that's a new We got more on that in
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  Speaker 5: the moment. Todd downing wide receivers, Tony Dues, running backs
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  Speaker 5: Ashton Grant, quarterbacks, Riley Larkin and Chucky Keaton. Offensive assistants Okay,
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  Speaker 5: Jeremy Springer and Tom Quinn will handle the special teams.
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  Speaker 5: Springer is the special teams coordinator, Tom Quinn as he
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  Speaker 5: was last year assistant special teams on the defensive side,
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  Speaker 5: Terrell Williams. We talked about him a little bit last week.
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  Speaker 5: Defensive coordinator inside linebackers, Zach Kerr said, Mike, you can
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  Speaker 5: correct correct my pronunciations, please. Scott Booker, the safety's coach.
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  Speaker 5: Justin Hamilton will handle the cornerbacks. Clint McMillan defensive line.
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  Speaker 5: This is the newest one that I just heard about yesterday.
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  Speaker 5: I think Mike Smith outside linebackers, UH, Vinnie DePalma, not
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  Speaker 5: to be confused with Louis defensive assistant, Kevin Richardson defensive assistant,
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  Speaker 5: Milton Patterson defensive assistant, and Ben McAdoo senior defensive assistant.
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  Speaker 5: So also Doron Mayo is the special Uh. I mean
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  Speaker 5: the strength and conditioning coach, which I found fascinating. I
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  Speaker 5: did too, so he stays as the special strength. I
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  Speaker 5: keep saying special teams, strength and conditioning and Brian McDonough
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  Speaker 5: will be his assistant, so he stays too. John Stryker
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  Speaker 5: Stretch vice president of Football ops in strategy, and Frank
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  Speaker 5: Perno is the director of Sports Performance.
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  Speaker 4: So he's the real Yeah, that's my strength and conditioning coach,
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  Speaker 4: Frank Frank.
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  Speaker 6: A little maybe kind of a demotion for Deromeo or
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  Speaker 6: is he still I don't know how that divvy's up there.
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  Speaker 4: It's like there was somebody hired above him. I would
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  Speaker 4: say than the demotion necessarily, but it's.
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  Speaker 2: A new position. I don't think they had that position.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, Frank Frank the tank was with with Mike Rabel
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  Speaker 4: in Tennessee and so he's uh, he's a lot of
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  Speaker 4: a lot of the stuff that he does too, is
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  Speaker 4: in the sports science realm, not just strength and conditioning,
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  Speaker 4: but also some of the new you know, injury prevention
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  Speaker 4: and all that cool stuff as well.
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  Speaker 2: Yep. So there it is.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, that's uh now, all made official late yesterday by
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  Speaker 5: the Patriots.
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  Speaker 2: Now you said you had something on Dante.
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  Speaker 5: Uh Now, these gentlemen went back and heard his He
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  Speaker 5: appeared on wee I this morning, Dante Scarneccia. There's a
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  Speaker 5: report yesterday, well. Greg. Earlier in the week, Greg Badard
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  Speaker 5: wrote that he had been it was his understanding that
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  Speaker 5: Dante would be involved on an as needed basis as
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  Speaker 5: a consultant with the offensive line. Bill O'Brien, uh the
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  Speaker 5: now Boston College head coach, yesterday, indicated on his podcast
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  Speaker 5: that that was a done deal. He was working already
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  Speaker 5: and you guys have updates on then.
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  Speaker 6: So I let Mike and Dante was on Greg Hill
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  Speaker 6: this morning. Greg Hill asked him directly and he said, no,
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  Speaker 6: I'm not I haven't been and I won't so what Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: But what was it? What was the exact question, because
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  Speaker 2: what was he answering?
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  Speaker 6: Well, it was, I mean, asked him directly about the
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  Speaker 6: reports that you're going to be helping out there. He said, no,
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  Speaker 6: that's not true. And then Courtney Cox said, well, he
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  Speaker 6: kind of walked it back a little bit this morning,
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  Speaker 6: just said you've been consulting and you've been around a
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  Speaker 6: little bit, and he said, no, I haven't been. I've
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  Speaker 6: been playing pickleball. That was essentially what his response was. So,
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  Speaker 6: I don't know, So I don't know what, but I
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  Speaker 6: think they got three coaches. I mean, I don't I
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  Speaker 6: don't know. I mean I kind of said a Tuesday like,
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  Speaker 6: not that I didn't want Dante, but at a certain
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  Speaker 6: point you got to move on. And they've got not
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  Speaker 6: only a very experienced offensive line coach now, but to
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  Speaker 6: offense of line assistance, and one of whom was here
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  Speaker 6: last year. So how many I mean, I get we
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  Speaker 6: got to fix the offensive line, but how many coaches
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  Speaker 6: do you need? I mean that seems like a lot,
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  Speaker 6: So I don't I would hopefully trust that the moron
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  Speaker 6: and his two assistants can get the job done without.
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  Speaker 6: You know, I love Dante, would be cool if he
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  Speaker 6: was coming back, but at a certain point you got
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  Speaker 6: to move on and find someone else.
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  Speaker 2: Well, but even just someone who's a phone call away.
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  Speaker 2: I think I look at that as an advantage, like
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  Speaker 2: just to be able to call him up and say, hey,
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  Speaker 2: how did you do such and such? You know, we're
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  Speaker 2: we got an issue here, We're trying to figure this out.
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  Speaker 2: You know, how did you deal with this when you
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  Speaker 2: were the like I think, you know, if you can
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  Speaker 2: have that type of expertise at a phone call away,
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  Speaker 2: take advantage of it.
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  Speaker 4: If it sounded to me based off of listening to
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  Speaker 4: O'Brien that it was more about Doug Moron maybe getting
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  Speaker 4: to know Josh in his system a little bit and
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  Speaker 4: trying to help him with that transition, then it was
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  Speaker 4: going to be anything more in depth in that, And
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  Speaker 4: uh it was. It was like he was kind of
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  Speaker 4: just around BC, around you know, the facility and stuff,
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  Speaker 4: and maybe they had kind of chatted and tok some
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  Speaker 4: ball here and there. But I can understand why Scar
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  Speaker 4: would be but pushed back on it being like a
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  Speaker 4: true consulting job, like, I don't think it's that. It
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  Speaker 4: was ever that in said.
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  Speaker 2: In any event, the staff is now official, it's been released.
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  Speaker 2: You can get that on Patriots dot com. I know
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  Speaker 2: it's a lot of new names, so if you want
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  Speaker 2: to get up to date with their backgrounds and what
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  Speaker 2: connection they do or don't have with Mike Rabel, it's
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  Speaker 2: all on Patriots dot com.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah.
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  Speaker 6: I haven't wrote up in an analysis as well, yep of it.
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  Speaker 6: So yeah, off we go. I guess that's uh waiting
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  Speaker 6: for this moment for them to round things out. So yeah,
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  Speaker 6: big piece of the pie, and I guess we'll leave
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  Speaker 6: the combine a couple.
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  Speaker 2: Of years now. There is another part of you know
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  Speaker 2: the football administration, which is the scouting and personnel, and
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  Speaker 2: you know, we know Elliot Wolf is there, we know
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  Speaker 2: Ryan Cowden is there. But there's a whole bunch of
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  Speaker 2: scouts and personnel people. I don't know who's left over
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  Speaker 2: from last year, who's new. There could be a lot
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  Speaker 2: of new faces there as well. I just I we
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  Speaker 2: don't know that.
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  Speaker 6: I think after the draft maybe, yeah, there might be
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  Speaker 6: some changes.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, probably.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah. It sounds like just based off of the people
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  Speaker 4: that were at the Senior Bowl, that a lot of
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  Speaker 4: those faces are going to stick around through the cycle
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  Speaker 4: and then maybe some changes after the draft. I'm just
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  Speaker 4: speculating on that, but it just the people that were
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  Speaker 4: at the Senior Bowl are people that I recognized or
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  Speaker 4: been here in the past.
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  Speaker 6: Ye, yeah, I know who I'm interested in. Fred and
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  Speaker 6: I got to witness a little bit of their interaction.
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  Speaker 6: I know Evnant did too. Is stretch and he just
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  Speaker 6: like he's a he's a tower like variable.
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  Speaker 2: Is Yeah, he's probably what six seven, I mean he's yeah, I.
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  Speaker 6: Guess he was stretched out at some point. But just
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  Speaker 6: witnessing a little bit of their interaction, it's just I'm
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  Speaker 6: not sure exactly what the comparison I like was initially
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  Speaker 6: Consolo Chewbacca, but they just seem like two peas in
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  Speaker 6: a pod, Like they seem like kind of the same
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  Speaker 6: guy to me. You can see, like now I kind
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  Speaker 6: of understand why Stretch was with the Rams, and everyone
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  Speaker 6: was just like, no, he's definitely going to Vrabel, like
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  Speaker 6: with New England. You know, they just I don't know
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  Speaker 6: what you saw of them, Evan down there, but they
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  Speaker 6: seem like two guys were very much on the same wavelength.
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  Speaker 6: And it seems like Rabel goes right to him with everything,
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  Speaker 6: and you know, as we've been talking, it seems like
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  Speaker 6: he's a little bit bear, She's a little bit you know,
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  Speaker 6: Ernie Adams. I guess he's a little bit of everything.
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  Speaker 6: So it's an interesting new relations So we talked about it.
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  Speaker 2: On this show, like you know, the brain drain that
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  Speaker 2: the Patriots had, and a lot of people often forget
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  Speaker 2: Ernie Adams leaving, and I think that affected Bill. I
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  Speaker 2: think he used Ernie Adams the way we hope Rabel's
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  Speaker 2: going to be able to use Stretch. They were just
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  Speaker 2: on the same wavelength and they could talk without even
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  Speaker 2: speaking words, you know, and that's that's really valuable to
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  Speaker 2: a head coach because there's so much that they have
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  Speaker 2: to do and keep their eye on, and to have
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  Speaker 2: that second in command that can handle a lot of
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  Speaker 2: that for you and give good advice. Uh, it's priceless.
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  Speaker 6: Well, the title's interesting to me because I think he
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  Speaker 6: was like what game management?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, he didn't have the operational responsibilities. It didn't sound
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  Speaker 4: like with the rams that he's going to have with
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  Speaker 4: here like the Burgonajerian side. I don't think that he
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  Speaker 4: was doing as much of that stuff in Los Angeles.
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  Speaker 4: But he's like a little bit different to than Ernie,
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  Speaker 4: I would say, because Ernie was a football guy like
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  Speaker 4: Ernie was, you know, he could like scout players and
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  Speaker 4: like do all that stuff. I don't think Stretch is
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  Speaker 4: going to be doing as much of that as he
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  Speaker 4: is going to be helping Rabel manage the clock.
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  Speaker 2: Situational football.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, did he.
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  Speaker 6: Go to your school? Poll? Was he graduate?
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  Speaker 5: He has not taken the mauld was not taking the course.
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  Speaker 5: So we'll see Jerry's out on him.
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  Speaker 2: Pause the negotiations. He might be one of his professors.
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  Speaker 6: So he's got to go through the test.
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  Speaker 5: Though I do wonder though, because he gets a title
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  Speaker 5: with with VP in the front of it. Yeah, you know,
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  Speaker 5: and I wonder if maybe they had to sort of
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  Speaker 5: do something that was a step up. Sure, yep, could
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  Speaker 5: be thinking him out of LA Yeah, and I have
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  Speaker 5: no idea. Maybe his contract was up. Maybe, Yeah, it
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  Speaker 5: doesn't really matter what.
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  Speaker 1: You know. I don't know.
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  Speaker 6: It feels to me like, I mean, I'm just speculating,
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  Speaker 6: but it feels like Rabel is like this guy has
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  Speaker 6: we're getting him like whatever, we have to call him,
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  Speaker 6: but he's coming here.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah.
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  Speaker 4: That was my takeaway with a lot of the guys
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  Speaker 4: on the staff that they hired. These this staff had
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  Speaker 4: to take some work. I mean, this was not a
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  Speaker 4: Uh there's some big name coaches on the staff that
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  Speaker 4: have been head coaches. There's four former head coaches. There's
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  Speaker 4: five former offensive coordinators or play callers. Uh, there's a
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  Speaker 4: lot of guys on here. Like Doug Maroon's a veteran
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  Speaker 4: coach in this league. I don't think that you just
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  Speaker 4: get Doug Maroon for peanuts, you know, Like I think
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  Speaker 4: you had you paid for a staff like this is
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  Speaker 4: a pretty significant staff. There's not a ton of coaches though,
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  Speaker 4: you know, twenty two. Girod had twenty nine last year,
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  Speaker 4: so it's a little bit smaller than what they had
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  Speaker 4: last year. But some of these guys were tied to
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  Speaker 4: contractually to other places or had pretty good titles, you know.
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  Speaker 4: Scott Booker was a senior defensive assistant for Buffalo last
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  Speaker 4: year and comes over to coach safety's year with the Patriots,
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  Speaker 4: So there there's a you know, pretty penny spent on
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  Speaker 4: this staff.
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  Speaker 8: I would think, Yeah, probably a better problem to have
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  Speaker 8: than we had last year. Though, Like, even though it
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  Speaker 8: was a bigger staff, it just felt like the hiring
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  Speaker 8: process took. It took so much just to get guys
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  Speaker 8: in the door to come even interview. Yeah, it just
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  Speaker 8: wasn't as appealing, you know.
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  Speaker 2: And it just seemed like Mayo was handed the people
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  Speaker 2: like because he had no clue, right, he didn't have
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  Speaker 2: a network, so he was just given these people, right like,
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  Speaker 2: this is who we got, Yeah, this is who we.
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  Speaker 8: Could get based on advice and trust.
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  Speaker 2: This seems like there was more thought and into this,
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  Speaker 2: and Rabel had people in mind who he wanted, who
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  Speaker 2: he was familiar with, and you have a lot more
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  Speaker 2: confidence for sure. Yeah, going into twenty twenty five, one.
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  Speaker 6: Thing that's just interesting to me with the quote from
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  Speaker 6: the press release was Rabel saying the goal and filling
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  Speaker 6: out the twenty twenty five Patriots coaching staff was to
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  Speaker 6: identify to identify loyal, trustworthy coaches who are diverse and back.
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  Speaker 6: I just I thought loy oil and trustworthy. Just it
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  Speaker 6: was interesting to me that those were two of the
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  Speaker 6: first words they used to describe. Not that I don't know,
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  Speaker 6: I didn't really read into anything in the past that
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  Speaker 6: made me think, like, I don't know, maybe I very
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  Speaker 6: able to deal with guys who weren't loyal or trustworthy,
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  Speaker 6: but clearly he has an element of a lot of
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  Speaker 6: guys that were in Tennessee or you know, Josh, he
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  Speaker 6: obviously knows very well. But those those two words stood
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  Speaker 6: out to me.
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  Speaker 4: I think.
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  Speaker 2: I think going back to Parcells, who was the first
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  Speaker 2: coach I was familiar with here, having loyal coaches on
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  Speaker 2: your staff who you can trust is a big part
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  Speaker 2: of the of the game for these head coaches because
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  Speaker 2: you see it. Even with you have staff that you
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  Speaker 2: deem loyal and trustworthy, stuff gets out there, yeah, and
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  Speaker 2: nothing gets, you know, up the skin of a coach
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  Speaker 2: of having this stuff out there when you thought, hey,
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  Speaker 2: this was supposed to be internal. Why is some one
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  Speaker 2: talking about this stuff? And loyal and trustworthy I think
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  Speaker 2: has always been on everybody's mind, but it is. I
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  Speaker 2: think it is interesting that those are the first two
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  Speaker 2: descriptors in in in the staff.
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  Speaker 6: Maybe maybe this is a stretch, but stretch, But you
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  Speaker 6: noticed a lot of these coaching moves got announced by
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  Speaker 6: random bloggers. It wasn't the usual suspect pitching. I don't
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  Speaker 6: know two things are connected, but a lot of guys
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  Speaker 6: that I've never even seen on Patriots Twitter before in
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  Speaker 6: my life were breaking these stories. So I don't know
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  Speaker 6: if those two things are connected, but it's it definitely
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  Speaker 6: is an interesting kind of shift from what we're used to.
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  Speaker 5: I'm interested in that.
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  Speaker 6: Ye I tickled your fancy with that bar.
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  Speaker 5: Now I don't have an answer. I have nothing, not
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  Speaker 5: even a speculation.
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  Speaker 6: The season gets its interesting, you know, trades, I mean
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  Speaker 6: maybe their trades coming up, or free agent deals. Who's
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  Speaker 6: going to break those? I mean, I'm sure the big ones.
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  Speaker 6: We know it'll be the shifters and the rap reports.
• 15:54
  Speaker 6: But but that was kind of a key story over
• 15:57
  Speaker 6: those first couple of weeks where these other Guysically.
• 16:00
  Speaker 4: There's a there's a leak that the league closes very
• 16:05
  Speaker 4: quickly when that type of stuff happens, Like maybe they
• 16:08
  Speaker 4: have access to a database or an onboarding like database.
• 16:14
  Speaker 4: In particular with one of the guys, I think is
• 16:16
  Speaker 4: how he's getting access. You know, he's got a password
• 16:19
  Speaker 4: from somebody.
• 16:20
  Speaker 2: Well, there is a thing called the Management Council dat dashboard. Yeah,
• 16:25
  Speaker 2: and certain you have to be at a certain level
• 16:27
  Speaker 2: of the team. But once you have access to that,
• 16:30
  Speaker 2: you know everybody's contract, you know, coaches, you know, like
• 16:33
  Speaker 2: every financial thing and transaction that's being considered from every
• 16:39
  Speaker 2: other team.
• 16:39
  Speaker 6: Wow, So somebody could hack into that.
• 16:42
  Speaker 4: That was the That was the the scuttle butt was
• 16:46
  Speaker 4: that that was one of the people might have access
• 16:48
  Speaker 4: to that. And my guess is that will get closed eventually.
• 16:52
  Speaker 4: You know, they'll they'll figure out.
• 16:54
  Speaker 5: He has access to the council. I don't have that, right.
• 16:59
  Speaker 5: That's what that's going is why he's getting Well.
• 17:01
  Speaker 2: No, it's supposed to have that, yeah, right.
• 17:03
  Speaker 4: My point is that it's not like they're talking to
• 17:06
  Speaker 4: people and getting this information directly from a reliable source.
• 17:11
  Speaker 4: They've kind of cheated the system.
• 17:13
  Speaker 5: So I wondered because a lot of these guys have
• 17:16
  Speaker 5: ties to the Titans, right, they were they were with
• 17:19
  Speaker 5: Mike with and I thought, maybe there's a young guy
• 17:22
  Speaker 5: who maybe had ties with Tennessee, right, and that's how
• 17:26
  Speaker 5: he was finding out all these guys were going. But
• 17:29
  Speaker 5: Evans theory makes some sense.
• 17:31
  Speaker 2: It could be Yeah, just as credible.
• 17:33
  Speaker 6: So you have access to that system?
• 17:35
  Speaker 5: Hell no, hell don't you send us that.
• 17:41
  Speaker 2: My only experience with it is there were a couple
• 17:44
  Speaker 2: of times where we had job openings and we wanted
• 17:46
  Speaker 2: to well, somebody from another team would reach out, and
• 17:50
  Speaker 2: before we actually talked to them, because they're another NFL team,
• 17:53
  Speaker 2: we'd have to get permission. And the way you do
• 17:55
  Speaker 2: that is you have to have somebody here who has
• 17:57
  Speaker 2: access put in the request through that dashboard to the
• 18:01
  Speaker 2: other team, and then they answer via that dashboard, like
• 18:05
  Speaker 2: it's okay to talk to Alex. But the reason so
• 18:09
  Speaker 2: it's all recorded, you know what I mean. So there's
• 18:13
  Speaker 2: no question did they ask for permission, did they not?
• 18:15
  Speaker 2: Did they reply? Did it? It's all in the dashboard
• 18:19
  Speaker 2: and so it's complete visibility to all the teams.
• 18:22
  Speaker 6: Yeah, what information, though, I'd be.
• 18:25
  Speaker 2: In the wrong hands Yeah, that's a that's a very
• 18:28
  Speaker 2: powerful and dangerous platform.
• 18:30
  Speaker 6: Do you ever get like the book in your town
• 18:32
  Speaker 6: where it lists like all the government like teachers, everybody
• 18:34
  Speaker 6: in your town what they get paid. I find that
• 18:36
  Speaker 6: kind of interesting too, right, Like this teacher is making
• 18:39
  Speaker 6: like two hundred k.
• 18:40
  Speaker 8: Well that's the thing you see with like public universities,
• 18:43
  Speaker 8: and people go crazy about how much the football coaches make.
• 18:46
  Speaker 2: Well with those universities, you have to right, you have.
• 18:48
  Speaker 4: To contract is public.
• 18:50
  Speaker 2: Yeah, so the first time in his life, probably the
• 18:53
  Speaker 2: state schools.
• 18:54
  Speaker 4: Yeah, you can request Bill Belichick's contract and they have
• 18:56
  Speaker 4: to give it to you.
• 18:57
  Speaker 9: Ye.
• 18:58
  Speaker 2: All right, So what else do we got? We got
• 19:00
  Speaker 2: the Super Bowl coming up. Drake won the ping pong
• 19:03
  Speaker 2: championship last night, did he? Yeah?
• 19:05
  Speaker 6: He beat uh Parsons.
• 19:09
  Speaker 2: He's a.
• 19:14
  Speaker 6: Kind of funny. I mean, you would expect the youngest
• 19:16
  Speaker 6: brother of four boys probably pretty good at ping pong.
• 19:20
  Speaker 2: Anything you could play in the basement of living, really
• 19:23
  Speaker 2: good at.
• 19:24
  Speaker 4: I was not surprised to hear that he won, because
• 19:26
  Speaker 4: when I wrote the feature about when the Patriots drafted
• 19:29
  Speaker 4: Drake May, one of his coaches down in North Carolina
• 19:32
  Speaker 4: told me about him playing ping pong and their facility
• 19:35
  Speaker 4: against and he's he's quite good and quite intense, takes
• 19:40
  Speaker 4: it very.
• 19:41
  Speaker 6: Does does he have no, he's got not for the
• 19:43
  Speaker 6: Forrest gump cript. I think no.
• 19:45
  Speaker 10: I don't know.
• 19:45
  Speaker 6: I didn't see it. Didn't look like they were.
• 19:46
  Speaker 4: Too he was he apparently when he would lose, he
• 19:53
  Speaker 4: would not take it.
• 19:54
  Speaker 6: Well, I love it.
• 19:56
  Speaker 8: The ping pong table every couple of months.
• 19:58
  Speaker 4: Yeah, that was the story that he told. It was
• 20:00
  Speaker 4: exactly for that purpose. Mic was to kind of show
• 20:03
  Speaker 4: his competitiveness, and he's like, he doesn't want to lose
• 20:05
  Speaker 4: it anything, even ping pong. You know.
• 20:07
  Speaker 2: Good.
• 20:08
  Speaker 6: Yeah, after that performance in the Pro Bowl games, I
• 20:10
  Speaker 6: like it though, Yeah.
• 20:11
  Speaker 4: But this is more important.
• 20:12
  Speaker 6: I feel great now we're on track.
• 20:16
  Speaker 5: A little ping pong more important than throwing.
• 20:19
  Speaker 4: Especially something, you know.
• 20:24
  Speaker 2: So, So next up for the football staff is I
• 20:27
  Speaker 2: guess getting ready for the combine.
• 20:28
  Speaker 6: Yeah right, yeah, yeah.
• 20:30
  Speaker 4: They usually do their February draft prep meetings over the
• 20:34
  Speaker 4: next couple of weeks where they do start to stack
• 20:37
  Speaker 4: a little bit and start to to get the board.
• 20:40
  Speaker 2: Vertically and horizoned exactly.
• 20:42
  Speaker 4: Okay, they start to get the board at least a
• 20:45
  Speaker 4: general idea of who you know, because you can only
• 20:48
  Speaker 4: technically request so many interviews at the combine, so you
• 20:50
  Speaker 4: have to get that list together and and sort of
• 20:54
  Speaker 4: put a close to the in person scouting. Now that
• 20:57
  Speaker 4: the All Star Games are over and get into this part.
• 21:00
  Speaker 2: Can you ask guys to show up at your facility
• 21:02
  Speaker 2: and do private workouts.
• 21:05
  Speaker 4: I don't know the actual date, but I think it's
• 21:07
  Speaker 4: it's definitely after the com after the combin Yeah, okay.
• 21:09
  Speaker 2: Yeah, you can't get an early look at somebody, I
• 21:12
  Speaker 2: don't think so no, no, and thereby not having to
• 21:16
  Speaker 2: interview that many at the combine.
• 21:18
  Speaker 4: Oh, I see, I don't believe so no, But you
• 21:20
  Speaker 4: can go to their campus as many times as you.
• 21:23
  Speaker 2: Want, starting one now, No, after I think it's after
• 21:26
  Speaker 2: the combat, after the combine. Right, you can go, right,
• 21:28
  Speaker 2: you can go anywhere you want. It's just you're limited
• 21:30
  Speaker 2: to how many you can bring here.
• 21:32
  Speaker 4: Correct, yep.
• 21:33
  Speaker 2: Okay, So that we'll look forward to that. We'll have
• 21:35
  Speaker 2: a full contingent down at the Combine producing content and reports.
• 21:40
  Speaker 2: So looking forward to that number five, number five.
• 21:43
  Speaker 5: Fred, you and I will anchor coverage from Yep, we'll.
• 21:46
  Speaker 2: Be here, correct, yep.
• 21:48
  Speaker 6: Check in with you guys, give you the move.
• 21:49
  Speaker 2: Has that any word any word about Barth? Have they
• 21:53
  Speaker 2: opened up the purse strings to allow him to go?
• 21:55
  Speaker 4: He told me that he was going to play your
• 21:57
  Speaker 4: your rant for his bosses.
• 22:00
  Speaker 6: There you go.
• 22:00
  Speaker 2: That's why I did. That's why I did.
• 22:02
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I told him we could get him a cot,
• 22:04
  Speaker 4: you know, I'll put him in the hallway or something.
• 22:09
  Speaker 8: It was like a divider wall. Maybe you sleep on
• 22:13
  Speaker 8: one side his heads.
• 22:15
  Speaker 4: Next year, I will admit we have shared a hotel
• 22:18
  Speaker 4: room together, but ahead him on the other side of
• 22:24
  Speaker 4: the queen And yeah, that's fine. And in a couple
• 22:29
  Speaker 4: of places Buffalo.
• 22:31
  Speaker 6: Imagine you guys, just like, who are you thinking about?
• 22:34
  Speaker 4: Mason?
• 22:38
  Speaker 5: Nice thoughts.
• 22:40
  Speaker 2: Barth talks into sleep, so Evan stays up.
• 22:42
  Speaker 4: And it's been a while. So it's been since the
• 22:44
  Speaker 4: Clintons days since we've done that. So it's been a minute.
• 22:48
  Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, what else? What else? We're going to do
• 22:53
  Speaker 2: their super Bowl We're going to do our super Bowl
• 22:57
  Speaker 2: picks later in the show. Got some props there, you
• 23:00
  Speaker 2: have some props.
• 23:01
  Speaker 5: I did a few, not not a ton, but I
• 23:04
  Speaker 5: just did some straightforward stuff like like Matt usually does
• 23:07
  Speaker 5: for the weekly stuff, you know, Barkley rushing yards and
• 23:12
  Speaker 5: my homes passing and all that kind.
• 23:15
  Speaker 2: So if you want to call in and give us
• 23:16
  Speaker 2: your super Bowl pick, maybe Paul will keep a poll
• 23:19
  Speaker 2: and we'll see what put a little pole to get
• 23:21
  Speaker 2: a little poll together. Chiefs of Eagles.
• 23:24
  Speaker 5: If I do have some over unders for the newsletter
• 23:27
  Speaker 5: coming up, I got to answer those.
• 23:29
  Speaker 2: Yeah, eight five five pass five hundred is the TPX
• 23:32
  Speaker 2: Outline podcast at Patriots dot com. Is the email address.
• 23:36
  Speaker 2: Got a lot of emails coming in.
• 23:38
  Speaker 5: So a bunch of reads.
• 23:39
  Speaker 2: Thank you for that. I just want to make sure
• 23:41
  Speaker 2: that we got everything on the table before we get
• 23:43
  Speaker 2: into our listeners.
• 23:44
  Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, I think that's that's about.
• 23:47
  Speaker 2: Anything happened down the super Bowl.
• 23:48
  Speaker 5: So how about this for the Super Bowl? I would say,
• 23:52
  Speaker 5: if you guys disagree, you can let me know. But
• 23:55
  Speaker 5: I would say it's been kind of quiet. Yeah, I
• 23:57
  Speaker 5: would you say, this is not necessarily uh.
• 24:00
  Speaker 6: The Miles Scares superquesting a trade. I feel like it's
• 24:02
  Speaker 6: one of the Yeah.
• 24:04
  Speaker 4: But I'm talking about the super Trade.
• 24:06
  Speaker 5: That's where I was going to get.
• 24:07
  Speaker 8: Yeah, you're right.
• 24:08
  Speaker 5: They kind of kind of they kind of hijacked the
• 24:11
  Speaker 5: super Bowl week.
• 24:12
  Speaker 2: No, a little bit. Yeah.
• 24:14
  Speaker 4: I mean the Luca Do trade is one of the
• 24:16
  Speaker 4: most surprising trades of my lifetime.
• 24:18
  Speaker 8: Videos were like DJ's were in a club and they
• 24:20
  Speaker 8: stocked their set to announce the trade.
• 24:23
  Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, no, there's been some really big shocking trade.
• 24:27
  Speaker 8: I can remember it, but.
• 24:28
  Speaker 5: That's obviously the biggest. But there's other like the Jimmy
• 24:32
  Speaker 5: Butler trade is big too. There was even.
• 24:35
  Speaker 8: Fans breaking for the trade. Chris Loved sitting on the
• 24:38
  Speaker 8: bench was kind of wild. Kevin Love. That's I love
• 24:43
  Speaker 8: Kevin Love, like.
• 24:44
  Speaker 4: We know maybe yeah, we really.
• 24:50
  Speaker 8: He did some great some great modeling. He had a
• 24:53
  Speaker 8: Banana Republic campaign. I really enjoyed. His wife is a
• 24:58
  Speaker 8: great model that I like her too.
• 25:00
  Speaker 4: We got it. They all love Kevin.
• 25:02
  Speaker 6: Isn't he really old? Yeah, but I just feel like
• 25:08
  Speaker 6: he's been.
• 25:09
  Speaker 4: Around NBA talk for you, getting back to football.
• 25:14
  Speaker 2: Your show tried to make some news yesterday. They weren't successful,
• 25:19
  Speaker 2: but they had Malcolm Butler on Felger and Mas and
• 25:22
  Speaker 2: they peppered him trying again. You know, you know, Malcolm
• 25:27
  Speaker 2: was sticking to the coach's decision answer.
• 25:31
  Speaker 6: What was that like for you guys when you were
• 25:33
  Speaker 6: you guys went to that Super Bowl, right, you actually
• 25:34
  Speaker 6: got to watch it from the building in the.
• 25:37
  Speaker 5: Side top some more of my Facebook memories that have
• 25:39
  Speaker 5: just been peppering me all week.
• 25:42
  Speaker 6: What was that because I don't know. I mean I
• 25:44
  Speaker 6: remember on TV they were talking about it, but it
• 25:46
  Speaker 6: was not just out of nowhere. I mean, I know
• 25:48
  Speaker 6: there was reports that he like came late, was sick, like.
• 25:51
  Speaker 5: Reports before the game.
• 25:52
  Speaker 6: There was nothing about it. It was just Malcolm Butler
• 25:55
  Speaker 6: crying on the sidelines during the game.
• 25:57
  Speaker 5: Andy and I and we didn't know that, like the
• 26:00
  Speaker 5: whole crying on the sideline because you know, we're in
• 26:03
  Speaker 5: the auxiliary press box, just not the same as spots
• 26:06
  Speaker 5: where Fred is so Andy and I are sitting there
• 26:10
  Speaker 5: and it was like maybe the second series and it
• 26:13
  Speaker 5: kind of dawned on us and I go, hey, did
• 26:15
  Speaker 5: you see he goes Butler? And I go, yeah, he
• 26:18
  Speaker 5: goes no. And it was like the second series before
• 26:21
  Speaker 5: we realized this is a guy who plays like every
• 26:23
  Speaker 5: play and he hasn't been on the field yet. And
• 26:25
  Speaker 5: then we didn't realize that, you know, al Michaels would
• 26:28
  Speaker 5: you know they had talked about it and they showed
• 26:31
  Speaker 5: that clip that's now sort of iconic.
• 26:34
  Speaker 2: Well, there wasn't.
• 26:35
  Speaker 5: No, we had no idea.
• 26:36
  Speaker 2: There was a report that was kind of circulating in
• 26:40
  Speaker 2: Minneapolis about the week before they got there that he
• 26:43
  Speaker 2: was either sick or he was late.
• 26:45
  Speaker 5: Later he came, he came late. But that a lot
• 26:48
  Speaker 5: of this stuff came out after.
• 26:49
  Speaker 2: I thought that. I thought that was going around before,
• 26:52
  Speaker 2: like Malcolm was in trouble.
• 26:53
  Speaker 5: Or maybe maybe maybe I just didn't know about it,
• 26:57
  Speaker 5: But I think I think that was afterwards. But you
• 27:00
  Speaker 5: could be right, that was before.
• 27:02
  Speaker 2: But they tried like hell to get him to open up,
• 27:04
  Speaker 2: and he didn't do it.
• 27:07
  Speaker 6: Nothing often go to his grave with it.
• 27:09
  Speaker 4: Yeah, he's going to go to his grave with it.
• 27:13
  Speaker 4: They're going to profit big lely off of like some
• 27:15
  Speaker 4: tell all books.
• 27:17
  Speaker 8: Say he was going to write a book last year.
• 27:19
  Speaker 4: I think he was making fun of people. Yeah, but
• 27:23
  Speaker 4: that's like the kind of where it's going now kind
• 27:25
  Speaker 4: of makes me feel like they're waiting for the right
• 27:27
  Speaker 4: moment to like strike on on announcing this or revealing
• 27:33
  Speaker 4: this to.
• 27:37
  Speaker 2: My all I can guess is that the answer doesn't
• 27:44
  Speaker 2: benefit either side. There's in other words, there's incentive for
• 27:47
  Speaker 2: both sides to remain quiet.
• 27:49
  Speaker 6: I agree, right, Yeah, it doesn't make Malcolm look good
• 27:53
  Speaker 6: and it does doesn't make Bill look good either.
• 27:56
  Speaker 5: So there was there was a story and I told
• 27:58
  Speaker 5: you about this. Mike the Ringer had a pretty i
• 28:02
  Speaker 5: mean pretty lengthy feature on Malcolm Butler in the play,
• 28:05
  Speaker 5: you know, sort of his his rising, you know, you know,
• 28:09
  Speaker 5: quick exit from the league. And it was it wasn't
• 28:13
  Speaker 5: really anything newsworthy. It was no noteworthy items that we
• 28:17
  Speaker 5: all didn't already know. But I did think it was
• 28:20
  Speaker 5: it was funny and they had they had a lot
• 28:23
  Speaker 5: of quotes from Logan Ryan, from Devin mccordy in the piece,
• 28:28
  Speaker 5: and at one point Devin said that they were like,
• 28:31
  Speaker 5: you know, come on, you know, why is he not playing?
• 28:34
  Speaker 5: Why is he not playing? And they went to I
• 28:36
  Speaker 5: think it was Boyer, Josh Boyer, and said, come on,
• 28:40
  Speaker 5: you gotta put you gotta put Malcolm in the game.
• 28:42
  Speaker 5: And Boyer just said to him that it's not my call,
• 28:47
  Speaker 5: it's the head that's that's the head coach. The head
• 28:50
  Speaker 5: coach won't let me, I think was the quote that
• 28:52
  Speaker 5: Boyer had. So I did find it's kind of interesting
• 28:57
  Speaker 5: that you came down.
• 28:59
  Speaker 2: The only interesting thing I thought that maybe shed a
• 29:02
  Speaker 2: little light on it that Malcolm said yesterday is they're
• 29:06
  Speaker 2: asking him like, what about like just getting in the
• 29:08
  Speaker 2: second half, and he's like, well, maybe they thought it.
• 29:10
  Speaker 2: I'd it'd be even worse if I was in there.
• 29:13
  Speaker 6: How could it be worse? Definitely the right right Jonathan
• 29:17
  Speaker 6: badam Mos remember.
• 29:18
  Speaker 5: Him, Johnson Johnson remember her respect on the name.
• 29:25
  Speaker 2: Yeah, so it was.
• 29:29
  Speaker 11: I did.
• 29:29
  Speaker 5: I did think it was funny when I think Felger
• 29:34
  Speaker 5: tried to sort of get into it. He's like, so,
• 29:36
  Speaker 5: you know, like there's been a lot of a lot
• 29:37
  Speaker 5: of rumors, a lot of stories about that, and he
• 29:40
  Speaker 5: goes like, well what stories, And he goes, well, what
• 29:42
  Speaker 5: did you hear? And he goes that you got in
• 29:44
  Speaker 5: a fight with Seve Buch. He was like right, and
• 29:49
  Speaker 5: you know, he wouldn't budge. He's like, coach decision. That
• 29:53
  Speaker 5: was it.
• 29:53
  Speaker 2: You know, watching that game, it was so frustrating because
• 29:56
  Speaker 2: Brady is having historical and historical Super Bowl offensive game.
• 30:01
  Speaker 2: You know, we ends up with over five hundred yards
• 30:04
  Speaker 2: up and down the field, but we just couldn't get
• 30:07
  Speaker 2: a stop, couldn't get a stop, and at some point,
• 30:11
  Speaker 2: you know, one of the greatest defensive minds in football
• 30:15
  Speaker 2: history has to say I gotta try something, but he
• 30:18
  Speaker 2: refused to do it. And that's something obviously was Malcolm Butler.
• 30:23
  Speaker 2: It just watched Philadelphia go up and down with Nick
• 30:26
  Speaker 2: Foles was so damn frustrating.
• 30:28
  Speaker 6: Do you look at it anything different now? After that
• 30:30
  Speaker 6: Dynasty doc where it really seemed like they painted the
• 30:33
  Speaker 6: picture that in twenty seventeen was where it felt like
• 30:36
  Speaker 6: Bill kind of started to there were some cracks in
• 30:38
  Speaker 6: the foundation of him having the team. And I don't know,
• 30:41
  Speaker 6: I mean if that was a symptom or one of
• 30:44
  Speaker 6: the reasons why, But I guess in hindsight now it
• 30:47
  Speaker 6: makes a little bit more sense to me of things
• 30:50
  Speaker 6: were starting to well, I could go great now.
• 30:53
  Speaker 2: Listen. I don't know if what the Dynasty was saying
• 30:56
  Speaker 2: is accurate or not, but I thought that they they
• 31:00
  Speaker 2: were trying to tell us that Belichick himself started to
• 31:04
  Speaker 2: change a little bit after Spygate, where he's like he
• 31:07
  Speaker 2: could trust even less. Like he was always a distrustful person,
• 31:11
  Speaker 2: you know, close loop of people, but after that he
• 31:15
  Speaker 2: trust even less people and became even more insular. And
• 31:20
  Speaker 2: after Spygate, because you know, people around the league who
• 31:23
  Speaker 2: we thought like he was in a fraternity with like
• 31:26
  Speaker 2: we're saying stuff about him, and so he started to
• 31:30
  Speaker 2: change after that. That's what I thought the documentary was
• 31:33
  Speaker 2: trying to tell us. I don't know if it's true
• 31:35
  Speaker 2: or not, but that's a message that I got from it.
• 31:38
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I get Mike's point, though to me, it makes
• 31:43
  Speaker 5: it more amazing that they were able to come back
• 31:46
  Speaker 5: and win it in eighteen. Now, I think that most
• 31:51
  Speaker 5: Patriots fans would say that that was a team that
• 31:53
  Speaker 5: maybe out of that era, you know, the least likely.
• 31:59
  Speaker 5: I mean, when you were getting into December and losing
• 32:01
  Speaker 5: those games to Miami and Pittsburgh, I don't think a
• 32:04
  Speaker 5: lot of people are like, yeah, yeah, yes, we're gonna
• 32:07
  Speaker 5: go and they're gonna win number six. Even though you know,
• 32:10
  Speaker 5: there was confidence that you know, as long as you
• 32:12
  Speaker 5: got Brady and Belichick, you got a shot that kind
• 32:14
  Speaker 5: of stuff. But they did not look good. That team
• 32:18
  Speaker 5: was not playing great, and they ended up winning the
• 32:22
  Speaker 5: Super Bowl anyway. But I think the part of what
• 32:24
  Speaker 5: Mike is saying, like the cracks, but I can't believe
• 32:28
  Speaker 5: the play Miami happened even now, like a Bill Belichick
• 32:33
  Speaker 5: coach team allowed that play to happen. Still kind of
• 32:36
  Speaker 5: every time I see it, I'm almost as much astounded
• 32:40
  Speaker 5: by it as I was when it happened in real time.
• 32:42
  Speaker 5: So you can kind of understand what Mike's talking about
• 32:45
  Speaker 5: the cracks that were starting to show eighteen.
• 32:47
  Speaker 4: Definitely in the regular season I covered that team and
• 32:50
  Speaker 4: that that offense was already.
• 32:52
  Speaker 2: Well on the eighteen offense, Does like take a step back?
• 32:59
  Speaker 5: All, No, we're time.
• 33:00
  Speaker 2: No, But I can ask all of you obviously, But
• 33:03
  Speaker 2: does Josh McDaniels not get enough credit for the way
• 33:06
  Speaker 2: the offense kind of changed up gears toward the end
• 33:10
  Speaker 2: of the season.
• 33:12
  Speaker 4: You can make that argument. Yeah, I mean, definitely those
• 33:14
  Speaker 4: last two weeks of the season, they said we're gonna,
• 33:17
  Speaker 4: as they like to call it a regular team, We're
• 33:19
  Speaker 4: gonna put the full back in the backfield, we're gonna
• 33:21
  Speaker 4: run the ball, and we're gonna do that sort of thing.
• 33:24
  Speaker 4: And they kind of warmed up to it those last
• 33:26
  Speaker 4: two weeks of the year against the Bills and the Jets,
• 33:28
  Speaker 4: I think it was, and then that carried over into
• 33:32
  Speaker 4: the playoffs. But really, to me, like Edelman in particular,
• 33:37
  Speaker 4: like turned another gear on in the postseason. I he
• 33:40
  Speaker 4: was great throughout that entire postseason run. So he sort
• 33:44
  Speaker 4: of flipped the switch. And then they had just enough
• 33:46
  Speaker 4: Gronk still that he made some big plays, you know,
• 33:50
  Speaker 4: in overtime against Case and the Super Bowl to get
• 33:53
  Speaker 4: them over the top. But I mean they were relying
• 33:55
  Speaker 4: on Josh Gordon to be an impact player for them
• 33:58
  Speaker 4: in eighteen during the regular season, and you could tell
• 34:02
  Speaker 4: already that the attrition out wide receiver and at the
• 34:04
  Speaker 4: pass catcher positions was was already catching up to them,
• 34:07
  Speaker 4: and especially because Gronk just wasn't the same guy. Like
• 34:10
  Speaker 4: Gronk was clearly slowed by injuries and things like that.
• 34:14
  Speaker 2: Remember at the beginning of that season, was it that
• 34:16
  Speaker 2: at the beginning of the season where for an instant
• 34:19
  Speaker 2: you had Antonio Brown and that was nineteen oh that
• 34:23
  Speaker 2: was the year after, and you're like, oh my god,
• 34:26
  Speaker 2: we're gonna have this, Like yeah.
• 34:27
  Speaker 6: I mean, that was the Thomas for a minute too,
• 34:31
  Speaker 6: Like I've cut him, I think.
• 34:31
  Speaker 8: But Littleman was selling T shirts with all the receivers
• 34:34
  Speaker 8: like this, like they were like the Avenger receivers and stuff.
• 34:37
  Speaker 8: And then like three days later he had to be like,
• 34:40
  Speaker 8: all right, sorry about that, guys. If you bought the shirt, right.
• 34:42
  Speaker 6: I mean, I remember I started here in twenty nineteen.
• 34:44
  Speaker 6: My first game in this job was at Pittsburgh opener
• 34:48
  Speaker 6: and they had acquired Antonio Brown I think earlier in
• 34:50
  Speaker 6: the day maybe or the day before Iron, and they
• 34:53
  Speaker 6: just rocked the Steelers and then you're like, this team's
• 34:55
  Speaker 6: gonna add Antonio Brown. I just remember that feeling up
• 34:58
  Speaker 6: there of like this thing ain't gonna stop, like you know,
• 35:00
  Speaker 6: and now you know, I get to see it firsthand,
• 35:02
  Speaker 6: and then you know, that team obviously just completely fell apart.
• 35:05
  Speaker 4: After that, there was a lot of signs of nineteen
• 35:09
  Speaker 4: and eighteen, and then Brady, Edelman and Gronk just turned
• 35:13
  Speaker 4: back the clock one more time for the playoff run
• 35:16
  Speaker 4: and we're able to do it. But it was already
• 35:19
  Speaker 4: kind of showing, and I think the relationships were. Looking
• 35:23
  Speaker 4: back on it, you could kind of tell that Brady
• 35:25
  Speaker 4: and Belichick were already icy.
• 35:27
  Speaker 8: And remember when Danny m and Dola left. I remember
• 35:29
  Speaker 8: Gronk writing like on his Instagram like You're finally free,
• 35:32
  Speaker 8: be free. Yeah, And that's when you were like, wait,
• 35:36
  Speaker 8: At least for me, that was the first time I
• 35:37
  Speaker 8: was like, wait, this isn't all like rainbows and kittens, and.
• 35:41
  Speaker 5: So we're all say that because that's the perspective of
• 35:45
  Speaker 5: someone that's still a fan, right still, for lack of
• 35:48
  Speaker 5: a better word, innocent. Yeah, Like we were talking on
• 35:52
  Speaker 5: this show, Fred, Mike and I and like talking about
• 35:55
  Speaker 5: a lot of these things, and remember how much pushback
• 35:57
  Speaker 5: we would get. This is around the time with a
• 35:59
  Speaker 5: Wickersham story started to happen, and you know, and not
• 36:02
  Speaker 5: to play my buddy Feldger's role, but you're making it up.
• 36:05
  Speaker 5: But they made fun of us all the time. Why
• 36:08
  Speaker 5: are you talking about this stuff? This is nonsense. This
• 36:11
  Speaker 5: is not like enemy number one, And it's like, no,
• 36:15
  Speaker 5: it was all happening, and it's probably way worse than
• 36:18
  Speaker 5: even we said at the time, and.
• 36:21
  Speaker 2: Still know yeah, yeah, still we.
• 36:24
  Speaker 5: Probably don't know the half of it, how bad it was.
• 36:26
  Speaker 6: Well, hearing Devin's reaction, I just wonder, as a coach,
• 36:29
  Speaker 6: how do you get that trust back? Like you feel
• 36:32
  Speaker 6: like you're one of your best players in one of
• 36:36
  Speaker 6: the biggest moments is kind of being punished and you
• 36:38
  Speaker 6: don't maybe they know why, I don't know. I mean
• 36:40
  Speaker 6: this has ever come out? Does everyone know? Or is
• 36:42
  Speaker 6: this like a bill and Malcolm thing and no one
• 36:43
  Speaker 6: else has any idea.
• 36:45
  Speaker 8: I think it's got it. Like Fred said, I think
• 36:48
  Speaker 8: it has to be that bad where no one looks good.
• 36:51
  Speaker 8: And I can only understand that, and out of respect
• 36:54
  Speaker 8: for everyone involved, they've kept quiet.
• 36:55
  Speaker 5: If they do know, I can only know how many
• 36:57
  Speaker 5: people know, Yeah, I do. I wonder how many different
• 37:01
  Speaker 5: people know.
• 37:01
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 37:02
  Speaker 6: Well the way they cover it too, Now you have
• 37:04
  Speaker 6: to think that it's not just he had a bad
• 37:06
  Speaker 6: week of practice and we mentioned him like that. It's
• 37:09
  Speaker 6: not something simple like that. There's something juicy is the word,
• 37:14
  Speaker 6: but there's something there.
• 37:15
  Speaker 2: I can only imagine what the people on that team, offense, defense,
• 37:19
  Speaker 2: and coaches were thinking going into that second half, and
• 37:23
  Speaker 2: as a key as Philadelphia is still moving the ball
• 37:27
  Speaker 2: and another drive goes by and he doesn't play, and
• 37:30
  Speaker 2: another series goes by, it's like, what's going on?
• 37:33
  Speaker 4: Especially like surprise wasn't a cop a revolt on like
• 37:38
  Speaker 4: where like you know he's going he's going back, just
• 37:41
  Speaker 4: like you know, like a guy like Devin who has
• 37:43
  Speaker 4: a lot of cachet with Bill going up to Bill
• 37:45
  Speaker 4: and being like you need we are in trouble, Like
• 37:49
  Speaker 4: you need to put this guy in.
• 37:50
  Speaker 5: That's kind of why I asked that question. I wonder
• 37:52
  Speaker 5: how many people actually know.
• 37:53
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but I also wonder, like by the third quarter
• 37:57
  Speaker 2: or something, if people didn't actually go up to mountain
• 38:00
  Speaker 2: him and then like, no's he's jelly, he's he can't function,
• 38:04
  Speaker 2: He's it's too late, we've lost him. I don't know.
• 38:07
  Speaker 11: I don't know.
• 38:08
  Speaker 4: It's a good point.
• 38:09
  Speaker 5: That's a possibility.
• 38:09
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't know.
• 38:11
  Speaker 5: It's cold, he hasn't done anything all day. It's just
• 38:14
  Speaker 5: silay specialty.
• 38:17
  Speaker 6: Three super bowls ago. Yeah, he was the hero three
• 38:20
  Speaker 6: super bowls. You know, at that point, like not that
• 38:23
  Speaker 6: it's connected, but still it's you know, this guy won
• 38:27
  Speaker 6: on a Super Bowl with a play. We need him please,
• 38:29
  Speaker 6: you know.
• 38:30
  Speaker 4: It was the the trickle down effect too, is just
• 38:34
  Speaker 4: they didn't have a They didn't have anybody to play
• 38:36
  Speaker 4: the slot, so like Patrick Chung was playing this a
• 38:38
  Speaker 4: slot corner role on Nelson freaking Aguilar, who they couldn't
• 38:42
  Speaker 4: cover because he's played, you know, he's they have a
• 38:45
  Speaker 4: safety covering a wide receiver because Eric Rowe had to
• 38:48
  Speaker 4: play on the outside because Malcolm Butler wasn't playing. So
• 38:51
  Speaker 4: it was like everybody blames Johnson Bademosi, that poor guy.
• 38:55
  Speaker 4: But really it was it was bigger than that, Like,
• 38:58
  Speaker 4: it was a whole trickle down effect in the secondary.
• 39:02
  Speaker 4: Jordan Richard, Jordan Richard.
• 39:05
  Speaker 5: Everybody except for Steph. Yeah, like you know, I think
• 39:08
  Speaker 5: it was Jeffrey gave him problems early and then they
• 39:10
  Speaker 5: put Steph on him. That kind of eliminated Jeffrey and
• 39:13
  Speaker 5: then they couldn't stop anybody else.
• 39:16
  Speaker 4: Yeah, they tried to. You know, let put what's put
• 39:18
  Speaker 4: step on the number two.
• 39:20
  Speaker 2: And doesn't imagine what you know, Brady wins that game
• 39:24
  Speaker 2: all the all the yards, record number of yards for
• 39:27
  Speaker 2: an offense quarterback.
• 39:30
  Speaker 5: I still can make it. You can make an argument.
• 39:33
  Speaker 5: I don't think it's flawed, but you can make an
• 39:35
  Speaker 5: argument if they win that game, it's a.
• 39:36
  Speaker 2: Three beats yeah, and well, yeah.
• 39:38
  Speaker 5: It's flawed because you don't know what happens the next year.
• 39:41
  Speaker 5: Everything changes.
• 39:42
  Speaker 2: I still think that he might have retired after that game.
• 39:45
  Speaker 5: Yeah, that's one thing that could have happened. Yeah, like
• 39:48
  Speaker 5: you remember that that was the year that he had
• 39:50
  Speaker 5: the whole Facebook series, right, the documentary series.
• 39:53
  Speaker 2: And I think they had that last episode in the
• 39:55
  Speaker 2: can you know, or at least written and they had
• 39:58
  Speaker 2: to rewrite it.
• 39:59
  Speaker 6: He would have come if he retired after that, I
• 40:01
  Speaker 6: bet he would have come back. He would have like
• 40:02
  Speaker 6: it would have been a whole thing, and he would
• 40:04
  Speaker 6: have gotten into eighteen and he would have been like no.
• 40:06
  Speaker 5: But I'm just saying like just because like I think
• 40:08
  Speaker 5: a lot of people just say, well, they won in sixteen,
• 40:10
  Speaker 5: they won in eighteen. They could have won in seventeen.
• 40:12
  Speaker 5: That would have been a three peat. I think Fred's right.
• 40:14
  Speaker 5: You don't know what would have happened had they won
• 40:16
  Speaker 5: that game instead of lost it, right, And that's a
• 40:19
  Speaker 5: big part of it. Tom could have retired.
• 40:21
  Speaker 6: Yeah, would we still be talking about Malcolm Butler if
• 40:24
  Speaker 6: they had won that game, you know.
• 40:26
  Speaker 5: We'd be talking about He'll be a mystery.
• 40:28
  Speaker 6: But they got that what they had a fourth down stop, right,
• 40:30
  Speaker 6: Like they had a chance to kind of seal that game.
• 40:32
  Speaker 6: If I think if they had a fourth down stop.
• 40:33
  Speaker 6: There was one fourth down stop and I think Bata
• 40:34
  Speaker 6: Mosi gave up a catch.
• 40:36
  Speaker 4: Actually getting mashed.
• 40:37
  Speaker 5: It was actually it was actually death on zach Ertz
• 40:41
  Speaker 5: caught like fourth and two.
• 40:43
  Speaker 4: That one too.
• 40:44
  Speaker 6: Yeah, but Brady could.
• 40:46
  Speaker 5: Just be just a correct The game wouldn't have been
• 40:47
  Speaker 5: over maybe right right, but they did have a chance
• 40:51
  Speaker 5: to get off They did have a chance to get
• 40:52
  Speaker 5: off the field on that last drive.
• 40:55
  Speaker 6: Yep, Nick Foles, everybody he played, I mean he played.
• 41:00
  Speaker 6: I mean, what is it about? Like just dopey white
• 41:02
  Speaker 6: guys like him and Eli Manning, like the Patriots.
• 41:05
  Speaker 4: Like that's what it is.
• 41:08
  Speaker 2: Let's see get to the emails at podcasts at Patriots
• 41:11
  Speaker 2: dot com. Aspin isn't reading. He says, I hope you're
• 41:14
  Speaker 2: doing well. Just need to say that every time Paul
• 41:17
  Speaker 2: sings it's gonna be may When you talk about Drake
• 41:19
  Speaker 2: may it makes me so happy. That was my exact
• 41:22
  Speaker 2: reaction when we drafted him. Anyway, looking at the coaching staff,
• 41:26
  Speaker 2: I'm wondering what your overall impressions are, of course, but
• 41:29
  Speaker 2: also why you think Matthew Slater will not be returning.
• 41:32
  Speaker 2: Was he only involved last year because of his relationship
• 41:35
  Speaker 2: that he and Mayo had and maybe he and Vrabel
• 41:37
  Speaker 2: do not have that same relationship. Regardless, it's a little
• 41:40
  Speaker 2: sad to lose him, as he had good relationship with
• 41:43
  Speaker 2: so much of the team. Another non coaching question, Jacoby
• 41:47
  Speaker 2: Brissett will be a free agent this year. And I
• 41:49
  Speaker 2: haven't heard you mentioned him much so far. What do
• 41:52
  Speaker 2: you speculate he'll do stay with us for one more year,
• 41:55
  Speaker 2: join another struggling team, retire, Thank you, you're welcome.
• 42:00
  Speaker 6: I don't think he'll stay.
• 42:00
  Speaker 5: I think he'll join a struggling team. Yeah.
• 42:03
  Speaker 4: I can't imagine he'll stay us to see what options
• 42:06
  Speaker 4: are out there.
• 42:07
  Speaker 8: I'm not signing back up.
• 42:08
  Speaker 5: And I don't know the Slater part of that. I
• 42:10
  Speaker 5: don't have any information on.
• 42:13
  Speaker 6: Kind of assistance to that coach, right.
• 42:15
  Speaker 5: And he doesn't. I mean, he wouldn't have that relationship
• 42:18
  Speaker 5: he played. I think you might have overlapped with one eight. Yeah,
• 42:22
  Speaker 5: so he wouldn't necessarily have that, you know, certainly not
• 42:26
  Speaker 5: as much experience with Rabel as he did with Mayo.
• 42:30
  Speaker 6: Troy Brown too. I mean a couple of guys that
• 42:31
  Speaker 6: have been.
• 42:32
  Speaker 2: Haven't heard his name. Jeff and Melbourne. Big news coming
• 42:37
  Speaker 2: out of the NFL having to do with Australia, he says.
• 42:41
  Speaker 2: So it's happening the NFL is coming to Melbourne and
• 42:44
  Speaker 2: there's a slim chance that the New England Patriots could
• 42:46
  Speaker 2: be the opponents for the Rams.
• 42:48
  Speaker 6: Please, I don't think you don't want to go to Australia.
• 42:52
  Speaker 5: Norah, I love that trip Chargers.
• 42:58
  Speaker 2: It's going to be two West Coast teams.
• 43:00
  Speaker 6: Yeah yeah, twenty six Oh.
• 43:02
  Speaker 5: I would go to Australia.
• 43:03
  Speaker 4: I do want to say there is a lot.
• 43:05
  Speaker 8: Of Patriots in Australia.
• 43:07
  Speaker 6: There's a small chance if the Patriots were to finish
• 43:10
  Speaker 6: the same slot the Rams this year, so EC West.
• 43:14
  Speaker 5: And we played that, we played that one one random
• 43:18
  Speaker 5: game yep.
• 43:19
  Speaker 6: Is an NFC West team in.
• 43:20
  Speaker 5: NFC West that falls in the same position, yep, So
• 43:23
  Speaker 5: if we finished same as a chance there.
• 43:24
  Speaker 2: Is if the Patriots and Rams finish in the same
• 43:27
  Speaker 2: position in the Division of twenty twenty five, ninth away
• 43:30
  Speaker 2: game for the Patriots or corresponding NFC West opponent. I'm
• 43:34
  Speaker 2: obviously getting ahead of myself, but given the hypothetical possibility,
• 43:38
  Speaker 2: could we also have a PU down under Oh jeez.
• 43:42
  Speaker 5: I guess that probably wouldn't happen, Like it'd be more
• 43:46
  Speaker 5: like London this year. I would think road game not
• 43:49
  Speaker 5: in our market, blah blah blah blah.
• 43:51
  Speaker 6: Especially you feel like the Patriots will have a Brazil
• 43:53
  Speaker 6: game soon.
• 43:53
  Speaker 2: I think, well, it's going to get to the point
• 43:55
  Speaker 2: that every team is going to have one international game
• 43:58
  Speaker 2: every year, every year, every year.
• 43:59
  Speaker 5: That's Fred's it's theory, sixteen international games.
• 44:01
  Speaker 4: Why do they do this to me?
• 44:03
  Speaker 2: I know.
• 44:04
  Speaker 4: Flight I have no desire to fly eighteen hours to
• 44:08
  Speaker 4: australia'll but the only way you.
• 44:11
  Speaker 2: Could do it for is whoever's playing place there is Well,
• 44:15
  Speaker 2: you can't do both, but you need a lot of time.
• 44:19
  Speaker 2: It's like from the East Coast, I do think it's
• 44:22
  Speaker 2: an eighteen hour flight. Yeah, yeah, yeah, in Australia, it's crazy.
• 44:27
  Speaker 4: I just I mean, you definitely have to have to buy, definitely.
• 44:30
  Speaker 2: Community to buy.
• 44:31
  Speaker 8: You need to be out there all week at least.
• 44:34
  Speaker 6: And that's I mean with the team, send the whole party,
• 44:38
  Speaker 6: you know, the whole Germany party, you know, everybody were
• 44:40
  Speaker 6: I'm saying that's probably more rams thing than like like.
• 44:43
  Speaker 5: Last year, like London, it was just a just a
• 44:46
  Speaker 5: road game.
• 44:46
  Speaker 6: That's why I say Brazil, like Brazil was probably you know,
• 44:49
  Speaker 6: we'll probably do it where it's a home market and
• 44:51
  Speaker 6: market for US now in international market that but I
• 44:54
  Speaker 6: don't know, if it was an away game, you're probably
• 44:55
  Speaker 6: just gonna send like last year, right, that is what
• 44:57
  Speaker 6: I would think.
• 44:58
  Speaker 4: It's actually a twenty one hour, twenty hours playing.
• 45:01
  Speaker 6: For that long without you got to get one of those.
• 45:04
  Speaker 5: You got to get one of those, like inflatable doughnuts.
• 45:07
  Speaker 5: I don't want I don't want to change.
• 45:11
  Speaker 8: That's a first class upgrade.
• 45:13
  Speaker 5: I got that. I got that for London once.
• 45:17
  Speaker 2: Bill in San Diego. Two quick questions, Why does it
• 45:21
  Speaker 2: appear that no one is concerned about all these former
• 45:23
  Speaker 2: head coaches who took jobs. They are clearly overqualified for
• 45:27
  Speaker 2: jumping ship after one season for better positions. So, in
• 45:30
  Speaker 2: other words, how long will these this staff stay to
• 45:33
  Speaker 2: gain us?
• 45:33
  Speaker 6: I think I trust that Rabel has full control of
• 45:36
  Speaker 6: the team, and I don't think he's so I don't
• 45:39
  Speaker 6: worry about him.
• 45:40
  Speaker 5: I think this is one of those This is kind
• 45:42
  Speaker 5: of like an s I d stat to me that
• 45:43
  Speaker 5: they have four head coaches, like Thomas Brown was ninterim
• 45:48
  Speaker 5: coach for like five games. He wasn't even an offensive
• 45:52
  Speaker 5: coordinator until someone lost their job, Like he never even
• 45:55
  Speaker 5: called plays until Frank Wright got fired, relinquish play calling
• 45:59
  Speaker 5: and then got fired like Doug Maroon. To me, at
• 46:03
  Speaker 5: this point it is probably he's probably not going to
• 46:05
  Speaker 5: be a head coach somewhere else Josh Ben McAdoo. I
• 46:08
  Speaker 5: don't think he's going to be a head coach somewhere. Josh,
• 46:12
  Speaker 5: I think is comfortable here in New England, and I
• 46:16
  Speaker 5: think he's had two chances. Now, you want to say
• 46:19
  Speaker 5: that you're worried about too many cooks in the kitchen,
• 46:22
  Speaker 5: maybe you know, with the amount of head coaches and
• 46:25
  Speaker 5: maybe you know, I don't know. It's just Doug Moron
• 46:28
  Speaker 5: and Thomas Brown think they maybe know how to run
• 46:30
  Speaker 5: the offense better than Josh McDaniels and this butting heads that.
• 46:34
  Speaker 5: I think that's always a concern on a coaching staff.
• 46:37
  Speaker 5: But I don't worry about these guys are going to
• 46:39
  Speaker 5: be head coaches and they're gonna leave in a year.
• 46:41
  Speaker 5: I don't worry about it that way.
• 46:42
  Speaker 4: I would worry more about I don't count Thomas Brown either. Yeah,
• 46:48
  Speaker 4: I would worry more about those types of guys though.
• 46:51
  Speaker 4: Thomas Brown, Ashton Grant, Scott Booker, like, those guys have
• 46:55
  Speaker 4: all been sort of on the rise, if you will,
• 46:58
  Speaker 4: in terms of on that co ordinator track, uh and
• 47:01
  Speaker 4: Thomas Brown like I could easily see Thomas Brown jumping
• 47:05
  Speaker 4: ship next year for an offensive coordinator job because that
• 47:08
  Speaker 4: that's the title pass game coordinator and tight ends coach
• 47:11
  Speaker 4: is like the new title to be on that that pipeline.
• 47:15
  Speaker 5: So I don't worry about it any more than I
• 47:17
  Speaker 5: normally would with my position coaches.
• 47:19
  Speaker 4: No, And I think the and I think they've built
• 47:21
  Speaker 4: in expectation that that might happen, Like a guy like
• 47:24
  Speaker 4: Riley Larkin for example, is probably the next Ashton Grant
• 47:28
  Speaker 4: for them. And you know, I think they have tried
• 47:30
  Speaker 4: to build in with some of those assistants with expectation
• 47:35
  Speaker 4: that some of these guys might lead.
• 47:36
  Speaker 5: So and Chuckie Keaton on paper are Josh McDaniels and
• 47:41
  Speaker 5: Brian Dable in two thousand.
• 47:42
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's the way to do it.
• 47:45
  Speaker 5: And that's I think that's Evan's point is YEA, hopefully
• 47:48
  Speaker 5: you have them and you you train them, and then
• 47:50
  Speaker 5: when you start to have some attrition, you have somebody
• 47:53
  Speaker 5: who can step into a positional coach.
• 47:55
  Speaker 2: At your bench strength. Everyone thought Josh mcdanzis was a
• 48:00
  Speaker 2: safe higher. Why does no one think there is no
• 48:02
  Speaker 2: chance that if a head coaching job at Ohio State, Oregon, Georgia,
• 48:05
  Speaker 2: et cetera, opened up, he wouldn't jump ship to take
• 48:07
  Speaker 2: a job there after one season.
• 48:09
  Speaker 5: Josh McDaniels, Yeah, college. I don't think he'd be offered it.
• 48:14
  Speaker 5: Mike Rabel. I'd worry a little bit about something like
• 48:16
  Speaker 5: that if Ohio State. I have no idea before anybody
• 48:20
  Speaker 5: get Day literally.
• 48:21
  Speaker 4: Just signed an extension to No, no.
• 48:23
  Speaker 5: No, I understand that, And he could get fired next
• 48:26
  Speaker 5: year easily.
• 48:27
  Speaker 4: Well, he won a national championships.
• 48:28
  Speaker 5: Right, and he could get fired next year if he
• 48:30
  Speaker 5: loses to Michigan again. So I have no idea that
• 48:34
  Speaker 5: Mike would be more interested in Ohio State than you know,
• 48:38
  Speaker 5: prefer Ohio State over the Patriots. But I could see
• 48:40
  Speaker 5: that argument. If that were the case, I'd much more
• 48:43
  Speaker 5: worried about Mike Rabel coaches for two years and then
• 48:47
  Speaker 5: goes and replaces Ryan Day at Ohio State, then I
• 48:49
  Speaker 5: would Josh McDaniels is getting a college job. Do you
• 48:53
  Speaker 5: guys think that Josh McDaniels is going to be like
• 48:56
  Speaker 5: a candidate for Oregon?
• 48:57
  Speaker 6: No?
• 48:57
  Speaker 2: No, no, All right, my food's here. Oh good, So
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• 50:10
  Speaker 11: So of course it's gonna snow.
• 50:12
  Speaker 9: Of course, I think the forecast said spotty little bit, maybe.
• 50:16
  Speaker 11: Not eight inches of snow all day long? Right, and
• 50:19
  Speaker 11: so we get there.
• 50:20
  Speaker 9: I don't think it's snow and yet it's overcast like
• 50:22
  Speaker 9: it is most every day, you know, in the fall
• 50:24
  Speaker 9: and the winter time. But it starts to snow when
• 50:27
  Speaker 9: we go out there in like pregame warm up, like
• 50:30
  Speaker 9: checking out the field and checking out everything, and what
• 50:33
  Speaker 9: I remember is like the biggest snowflakes you've ever seen.
• 50:35
  Speaker 9: I mean, gigantic, super cool cinematography wise, you know, if
• 50:40
  Speaker 9: you're taking a camera, you're taking pictures.
• 50:41
  Speaker 11: It's awesome.
• 50:42
  Speaker 9: But to play in it sucks. You know, starts snowing
• 50:44
  Speaker 9: hard and harder and harder. Now you can't even really
• 50:47
  Speaker 9: see across the field to the other sideline. I'm like,
• 50:50
  Speaker 9: this is gonna be absolutely miserable. But I'm thinking this
• 50:53
  Speaker 9: team from California, Oakland, they can't handle this. We're gonna
• 50:56
  Speaker 9: whoop their butts in this stuff. And they come out
• 50:58
  Speaker 9: and play really solid game most of the game. They're
• 51:01
  Speaker 9: they're sticking it to us, right, They're playing really well.
• 51:03
  Speaker 9: So and as a game progresses on, it just gets
• 51:07
  Speaker 9: more and more and more, and you know, it was
• 51:10
  Speaker 9: it was interesting going out there watching the whole tuck
• 51:14
  Speaker 9: rule stuff and all that. You know, when when Woodson
• 51:17
  Speaker 9: goes around the corner, and you know, hits Tom's arm strip,
• 51:21
  Speaker 9: sack or arm coming forward whatever. I'm sitting there thinking, ah, Jesus,
• 51:25
  Speaker 9: cleaning out our locker tomorrow, right. I'm like, cause it
• 51:27
  Speaker 9: looked like a fumble to me, right. And then all
• 51:30
  Speaker 9: of a sudden the referees all right, we're under review,
• 51:32
  Speaker 9: and I'm like, okay, well.
• 51:35
  Speaker 11: Thank goodness. The rule at that time was what it is.
• 51:37
  Speaker 11: I get it. And they change the rule after that,
• 51:39
  Speaker 11: I get it.
• 51:40
  Speaker 9: But the way they they judged it that way was
• 51:43
  Speaker 9: the right call. And I'm thinking to myself as I'm
• 51:46
  Speaker 9: watching that, I'm thinking, man, we're cleaning out of the locker.
• 51:48
  Speaker 9: And then all of a sudden, the realism comes on
• 51:50
  Speaker 9: to me, is like, you're gonna have to kick the
• 51:52
  Speaker 9: hardest kick in your entire life, probably to give us
• 51:57
  Speaker 9: a chance after that. So Kenny Walter is my whole
• 52:00
  Speaker 9: old comes up to me and he says, hey, Adam,
• 52:03
  Speaker 9: all the snow, all this stuff, he said, I'm not
• 52:05
  Speaker 9: going to even try to spin it, he said, I'm
• 52:06
  Speaker 9: just gonna put it down and wherever the laces are,
• 52:09
  Speaker 9: the laces are. And I'm like, you're building it to
• 52:11
  Speaker 9: a confidence for me right now, Bud, thanks a lot
• 52:13
  Speaker 9: for this, but so literally we went out there, it's
• 52:16
  Speaker 9: forty five yards. Try to get a quick sweep off
• 52:21
  Speaker 9: of the ground. And I'm thinking to myself, listen, you
• 52:23
  Speaker 9: got to think like three things. Slow steps to it,
• 52:27
  Speaker 9: and I've got like as long as cleats in my
• 52:29
  Speaker 9: plant foot as I can to get a little bit
• 52:31
  Speaker 9: of traction and stuff like that. But I'm thinking they're
• 52:33
  Speaker 9: not going to be able to rush fast, so my
• 52:35
  Speaker 9: timing can be a little bit slower because they're not
• 52:38
  Speaker 9: going to be as fast either, So don't worry about
• 52:40
  Speaker 9: that necessarily. But you're thinking, like you're trying to run
• 52:45
  Speaker 9: on ice, right, you can't take big long strides. You're
• 52:47
  Speaker 9: going to slide and fall on your button. So I'm
• 52:49
  Speaker 9: thinking shorter steps, try to just try to get your
• 52:52
  Speaker 9: foot in place. Try to get the ball above the
• 52:55
  Speaker 9: line of scrimmage. I didn't want to smack my center
• 52:58
  Speaker 9: in the butt. You know that didn't work out very good.
• 53:00
  Speaker 9: So I'm like, get it above the line of scrimmage.
• 53:02
  Speaker 9: They're not going to be able to get a good push,
• 53:04
  Speaker 9: so it's not you know, not as imperative to get
• 53:06
  Speaker 9: it as high. If you can think of all this
• 53:08
  Speaker 9: stuff as you're going out there. But I'm just thinking,
• 53:10
  Speaker 9: you have to get it online and give yourself a chance, right, So.
• 53:15
  Speaker 11: Get to the ball, kick it. You know.
• 53:18
  Speaker 9: I look up, I'm like, okay, I didn't fall down,
• 53:20
  Speaker 9: got it above the line of scrimmage. It looks like
• 53:22
  Speaker 9: it's going fairly straight, but it still got to go
• 53:25
  Speaker 9: forty five yards and in a blizzard's not an easy kick.
• 53:28
  Speaker 11: And honest to God, as it's leaving, I'm like, got
• 53:31
  Speaker 11: a chance. You're right.
• 53:32
  Speaker 9: I'm like, okay, maybe, but but when it got to
• 53:35
  Speaker 9: the uprights, it's snowing so hard. I wasn't sure. I
• 53:38
  Speaker 9: couldn't really tell until the referees went forward and raise
• 53:40
  Speaker 9: their hand.
• 53:41
  Speaker 11: I'm like, oh my god, I made this kick.
• 53:42
  Speaker 2: Like I know.
• 53:43
  Speaker 9: The reporters said, you know, after the game, like, oh,
• 53:46
  Speaker 9: you know, what's the percentage?
• 53:47
  Speaker 11: I'm like, I don't know, you know. I'm like I
• 53:50
  Speaker 11: look back at that and go, that's two percent.
• 53:52
  Speaker 12: You know.
• 53:52
  Speaker 9: I like, honest to God, I don't know how many
• 53:54
  Speaker 9: times you can make that. But made it when I
• 53:57
  Speaker 9: needed to, you know, kind of had had a plan,
• 54:00
  Speaker 9: kind of executed the plan. You know, I didn't want
• 54:02
  Speaker 9: it to come off like a two iron super low.
• 54:04
  Speaker 9: But that's the best I could do at the time,
• 54:06
  Speaker 9: and it was.
• 54:07
  Speaker 11: It was good enough.
• 54:08
  Speaker 5: And then you get you know that it unfolds into
• 54:10
  Speaker 5: overtime and I know, Matt, you know, we were talking
• 54:13
  Speaker 5: about this a little bit almost anti climatic because there
• 54:15
  Speaker 5: was so much shorter, but there's still all that snow
• 54:17
  Speaker 5: on the field. Oh no, more than it was before.
• 54:20
  Speaker 5: Same mindset.
• 54:21
  Speaker 9: The only good thing, if you could say a good thing,
• 54:24
  Speaker 9: is yes, it was twenty three, twenty four years whatever, shorter, shorter,
• 54:29
  Speaker 9: but we call time out. Our guys are trying to
• 54:31
  Speaker 9: clear off as much snow as possible, and then Gruden
• 54:35
  Speaker 9: maybe the only time that you should maybe not try
• 54:38
  Speaker 9: to ice the kicker, if you will, because it gave
• 54:39
  Speaker 9: us another thirty seconds. We cleared a little bit more snow,
• 54:43
  Speaker 9: wasn't completely clear, but it was way way more clear,
• 54:46
  Speaker 9: way easier. That one was one of those like yeah,
• 54:49
  Speaker 9: you're gonna make this, Like like I had all the
• 54:51
  Speaker 9: confidence the world that I was gonna make that and
• 54:53
  Speaker 9: kick it a look up.
• 54:54
  Speaker 11: I'm like, thank god, So yeah, it was, it was.
• 54:58
  Speaker 11: It was. It was a wild day.
• 55:00
  Speaker 9: I'm happy that it happened that way, never would want
• 55:03
  Speaker 9: to do it again just because, but no, it was
• 55:07
  Speaker 9: pretty awesome. I've played in a few crazy games in
• 55:10
  Speaker 9: Buffalo and stuff, but that one is, that forty five
• 55:14
  Speaker 9: yarder to tie the game is by far my favorite
• 55:18
  Speaker 9: kick I've ever made, even Super Bowl kicks and all that,
• 55:21
  Speaker 9: just because the difficulty level was as hard as you
• 55:25
  Speaker 9: could get.
• 55:26
  Speaker 11: You miss it, the season's over.
• 55:28
  Speaker 9: I mean like you couldn't stack any more negative or
• 55:32
  Speaker 9: potential stressful situations on top of that kick, and to
• 55:36
  Speaker 9: make that thing was pretty awesome.
• 55:38
  Speaker 14: It's really interesting to hear the way you say that,
• 55:40
  Speaker 14: because there's so many people that it would be, oh,
• 55:43
  Speaker 14: you know, that's my job and a deflect. When you
• 55:46
  Speaker 14: hear somebody like Bill Belichick, who's said it many times
• 55:50
  Speaker 14: and other great historians of the game call it the
• 55:52
  Speaker 14: single greatest kick in the history of the National Football League,
• 55:56
  Speaker 14: how does that make you feel?
• 55:59
  Speaker 11: Well, it's a huge impliment. It's awesome to think that. Whatever.
• 56:03
  Speaker 9: But as I look at other kicks and other things,
• 56:06
  Speaker 9: I haven't watched every kick from everything. I know the
• 56:08
  Speaker 9: Pat summer On one and some of those ones awesome too,
• 56:11
  Speaker 9: but by far, the most difficult kick I've ever had
• 56:14
  Speaker 9: to think and or or attempt and yeah, you'd have to,
• 56:18
  Speaker 9: you'd have to. I'd be hard pressed to find another
• 56:21
  Speaker 9: one that stacks up to that. But you know, thank goodness,
• 56:25
  Speaker 9: my team gave me an opportunity to try.
• 56:26
  Speaker 5: It, and a couple of weeks later, yeah, that's that's nothing.
• 56:31
  Speaker 5: Indoors tie games.
• 56:34
  Speaker 9: That was pretty awesome too, because I just you know,
• 56:36
  Speaker 9: that game kind of back and forth and then the
• 56:38
  Speaker 9: Rams catch up and oh my gosh, you know, and
• 56:41
  Speaker 9: I remember I remember the commentator John Madden saying, ah,
• 56:47
  Speaker 9: you know, she'd probably just take a knee, and thank goodness.
• 56:50
  Speaker 11: We didn't. We had enough time.
• 56:51
  Speaker 9: And you know, our philosophy, or at least Charlie Weis's philosophy, is,
• 56:55
  Speaker 9: you know, let's see if we get a couple first downs,
• 56:56
  Speaker 9: if we can, if we can get in range.
• 56:59
  Speaker 11: In that year, I think we had I think I
• 57:01
  Speaker 11: had five game winners, including that.
• 57:03
  Speaker 9: One in the one and so we were blowing teams out,
• 57:07
  Speaker 9: but we were winning games. And that's the cool thing
• 57:09
  Speaker 9: about our team that particular year is we lost to
• 57:12
  Speaker 9: the Rams earlier in the year, but it was a
• 57:14
  Speaker 9: good game, came right down to the end, and we
• 57:16
  Speaker 9: built a lot of confidence in that game, and knowing
• 57:19
  Speaker 9: that every close game we were just.
• 57:22
  Speaker 11: Building more confidence and more confidence.
• 57:24
  Speaker 9: And I literally remember them kicking off to us and
• 57:27
  Speaker 9: I go, we got a minute and a half left.
• 57:28
  Speaker 9: I've seen Tom do it all year long, Like, hell yeah,
• 57:31
  Speaker 9: we're gonna do it again, right, j R. Edmund Troy
• 57:33
  Speaker 9: Brown and bing dinking, you know, Jermaine Wiggins has one,
• 57:38
  Speaker 9: just a couple of places, bang bang bang bang all
• 57:40
  Speaker 9: the way down the field, and I'm just thinking, hell yeah,
• 57:43
  Speaker 9: you know. And so the feeling for that kick is
• 57:45
  Speaker 9: never It's a game you dream about it your entire life.
• 57:48
  Speaker 11: You know, as a little kid, You're like, what's as
• 57:51
  Speaker 11: a kicker?
• 57:52
  Speaker 9: That's the dream, right, kicking a game winner in a
• 57:55
  Speaker 9: Super Bowl. I mean, that's exactly what you think about.
• 57:58
  Speaker 9: So I'm over in the net and I'm watching, you know,
• 58:01
  Speaker 9: and I kind of have a routine like, hey, when
• 58:03
  Speaker 9: we get to a certain yard line, I start to
• 58:05
  Speaker 9: warm up a little bit, and everything's sped up a
• 58:08
  Speaker 9: little bit, so you start a little earlier. And it's
• 58:10
  Speaker 9: funny because in my entire career, when you get ready
• 58:13
  Speaker 9: for game winners, everybody kind of treats you like you've
• 58:16
  Speaker 9: got some rare contagiousness.
• 58:18
  Speaker 11: You gotta letp proceiver. Yeah, nobody wants to talk to you,
• 58:22
  Speaker 11: touch you say anything to you.
• 58:24
  Speaker 5: Two guys in my.
• 58:25
  Speaker 9: Entire career in twenty four years, two guys Willy and lawyer.
• 58:29
  Speaker 9: Lawyer and my lawyer, the two guys that would say
• 58:31
  Speaker 9: something to me. And Willy comes up to me as
• 58:33
  Speaker 9: I'm walking in and he gives me a wuck right
• 58:35
  Speaker 9: on the book. Come on, man, we hit this second.
• 58:37
  Speaker 9: I'm like, I can't feels cheek right now, but thank
• 58:40
  Speaker 9: you for that.
• 58:40
  Speaker 11: But okay, good, you know.
• 58:42
  Speaker 2: But and and.
• 58:45
  Speaker 11: Johnny Rotten, our equipment guy at the time, Johnny hillbrand
• 58:47
  Speaker 11: And was like, you hit it, I'll get it.
• 58:49
  Speaker 9: And he takes off down the sideline. So the funny
• 58:52
  Speaker 9: things that you remember because everything's happening fast but slow
• 58:56
  Speaker 9: everything slow motion kind of sort of and you know,
• 58:59
  Speaker 9: we finally you know, dinking and dunkin and dinking and
• 59:01
  Speaker 9: duncan and Tom spikes the ball and it's all right,
• 59:03
  Speaker 9: get out there and kick this thing. I'm thinking to myself,
• 59:05
  Speaker 9: I'm like, forty eight yarder. It's not a chip shot
• 59:08
  Speaker 9: by any means. It's a long kick. But I'm like,
• 59:11
  Speaker 9: this is like like I everything's calm and quiet, lots
• 59:17
  Speaker 9: of stuff is going on, but it just kind of
• 59:18
  Speaker 9: your world just kind of shrinks to a little bit here.
• 59:22
  Speaker 11: The only thing that I.
• 59:22
  Speaker 9: Do remember is Rod Rutledge was my left wing and
• 59:26
  Speaker 9: dre blies on the other side.
• 59:28
  Speaker 11: And Rod is talking mad trash to him. Yeah, yeah,
• 59:32
  Speaker 11: talking all just just talk. I can see it too.
• 59:36
  Speaker 9: It's like just yesterday, right, And and I'm the kind
• 59:39
  Speaker 9: of guy that I like to get everybody set because
• 59:41
  Speaker 9: I don't want to take my steps back and wait
• 59:43
  Speaker 9: back there for a long time. And so Rod's over here,
• 59:46
  Speaker 9: just John, just talking trash and I and Kenny's like
• 59:49
  Speaker 9: waiting for me to get set, and I go, Kenny, make.
• 59:53
  Speaker 11: Him stop, and he goes.
• 59:54
  Speaker 15: Rod gets set, you know, and Rod's like, oh, you know,
• 59:57
  Speaker 15: he gets down right, And so the biggest kick of
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 15: your life, and this stupid crap is going on in
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 15: front of you, right, like the stuff that's happening in
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 15: front of you.
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 11: And so I take my steps back and Kenny gives
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 11: a set.
• 1:00:09
  Speaker 9: Call comes boom boom boom, and it's like that golf
• 1:00:13
  Speaker 9: shot that you don't even feel hit your club, right
• 1:00:15
  Speaker 9: like it's just just nutted right, perfect, right, and and
• 1:00:19
  Speaker 9: I feel it leave my foot and without even looking up,
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 9: I'm like, oh, that felt really good.
• 1:00:23
  Speaker 11: And I look up it's dead center and I'm like, oh, yeah,
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 11: you know.
• 1:00:26
  Speaker 9: And at that point I turn and I'm jumping around
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 9: and whatever, and Kenny's grabbing me in the confetti starts
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 9: and all that stuff, and and it was just just yeah,
• 1:00:37
  Speaker 9: I don't know, you know, it's just amazing at that point.
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 11: And now, great moments in.
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 6: History they had. She had one where she was talking
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 6: smack about your blood cells.
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 2: Whoa, oh now it's on.
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 4: Now it's wild.
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 5: Now it's well, it's definitely no. But all I saw,
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 5: I mean I saw like Megan had like one hundred
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 5: scream screaming, but they.
• 1:01:02
  Speaker 2: Had just won.
• 1:01:03
  Speaker 5: Like what is she supposed to put in the library?
• 1:01:06
  Speaker 5: Face face.
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 6: Like just sh Freud.
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 5: I just wanted to I'm sorry, what was that working?
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 4: Shading?
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 2: Not the life, as I said, shoden.
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 5: Freud because he went over to he said in two
• 1:01:19
  Speaker 5: different ways, neither one of them was correct.
• 1:01:22
  Speaker 2: Shot him fucking all right.
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 1: All right, that's another great moment from.
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• 1:01:39
  Speaker 2: in while not exactly one to one, Barkley's impact in
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 2: the playoffs is Terrell Davis esque, and there's no amount
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 2: of scouting or practice the Chiefs can do to prepare
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 2: for his mix of speed and elusiveness. Eagles thirty seven,
• 1:01:51
  Speaker 2: Chefs twenty eight, So put one down for the Eagles.
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 6: I don't see it.
• 1:01:56
  Speaker 5: So I think that that leads to an interesting stat
• 1:01:59
  Speaker 5: that I saw today. The Eagles have rushed for more
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 5: yards this season than they've thrown four. If they win
• 1:02:06
  Speaker 5: the Super Bowl, it'll be the first time in thirty
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 5: plus years that that has been the case. It's seventy two,
• 1:02:14
  Speaker 5: seventy three, seventy four, you know something like that. Miami, Pittsburgh,
• 1:02:19
  Speaker 5: Pittsburgh last teams to rush for more yards than they
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 5: threw fourth to win the Super Bowl. So, yeah, it
• 1:02:25
  Speaker 5: could happen. It could be a one off, but I
• 1:02:27
  Speaker 5: think you've sort of seen how you need to win.
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:02:32
  Speaker 6: I just think it's going to be a game about
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 6: possessions and long possessions, and you got to finish with
• 1:02:39
  Speaker 6: touchdowns Like that's how I kind of see it stacking up.
• 1:02:42
  Speaker 6: And as much as they want to run Barkley or
• 1:02:45
  Speaker 6: the Chiefs want to throw short passes like, it's just
• 1:02:47
  Speaker 6: gonna come down to who scores touchdowns, I think. I
• 1:02:49
  Speaker 6: mean that's I don't think it's going to be a
• 1:02:51
  Speaker 6: high scoring game. I think it's going to be a long,
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 6: drawn out eight nine, ten minute possession eight nine. You know,
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 6: those that kind of game, back and forth with long
• 1:02:59
  Speaker 6: sustain drives that if you get stopped on fourth down
• 1:03:02
  Speaker 6: or you missed the field goal, those things will add
• 1:03:04
  Speaker 6: up and that's gonna be the difference.
• 1:03:06
  Speaker 2: Rusty and Arland says. The Hall of Fame will be
• 1:03:08
  Speaker 2: announced soon and I wanted to get your opinion on it.
• 1:03:12
  Speaker 2: Obviously we have one player who we can talk about.
• 1:03:15
  Speaker 2: I think sug Steve Smith, Regy Wayne are probably ahead
• 1:03:17
  Speaker 2: of Vinitary or Vinittieri. Which is it?
• 1:03:22
  Speaker 7: I do?
• 1:03:22
  Speaker 6: I do Tierry that I'm wrong.
• 1:03:24
  Speaker 5: I think it's tyranny, But it used to be put
• 1:03:26
  Speaker 5: in the media Guide as Terry.
• 1:03:28
  Speaker 2: Terry Terry that's right. Uh do you think he gets
• 1:03:31
  Speaker 2: in on the first ballot? Uh?
• 1:03:34
  Speaker 5: Yeah, all got a shot.
• 1:03:36
  Speaker 2: Also I want to ask about when Vinitari left, since
• 1:03:38
  Speaker 2: I was still youngish when it happened. What was the reaction?
• 1:03:41
  Speaker 2: Was it mainly just money? It was all about money?
• 1:03:44
  Speaker 2: Is it weird that he had all these iconic moments
• 1:03:46
  Speaker 2: with the Patriots then played basically a second full career
• 1:03:49
  Speaker 2: with another team that was terrible.
• 1:03:51
  Speaker 11: I hated it.
• 1:03:52
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I hated it too.
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 4: It was one of my first like him and Johnny
• 1:03:55
  Speaker 4: Damon right there you go the same time, and I
• 1:03:59
  Speaker 4: remember being dead stated about both of them and not understanding.
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 4: But I was so Bill could do no wrong at
• 1:04:06
  Speaker 4: that point that I just I explained it away.
• 1:04:09
  Speaker 5: I was like, I was so mad, But I mean
• 1:04:11
  Speaker 5: it was this is Carlton Fisk for me as a kid,
• 1:04:14
  Speaker 5: and the same kind of thing you think of him
• 1:04:17
  Speaker 5: as a Red Sox. Played longer with the White Sox,
• 1:04:20
  Speaker 5: same with that, played longer with the Colts, but he
• 1:04:24
  Speaker 5: didn't do.
• 1:04:24
  Speaker 2: As much with him.
• 1:04:26
  Speaker 5: Well, what's going on?
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 2: All right?
• 1:04:29
  Speaker 6: I want to get into my thought food for thought?
• 1:04:34
  Speaker 6: So is Eli meaning getting in? I mean what if
• 1:04:36
  Speaker 6: he got in?
• 1:04:37
  Speaker 2: Would it first ballot? I would be disgusted?
• 1:04:39
  Speaker 6: I mean, is it?
• 1:04:40
  Speaker 4: But is it too?
• 1:04:41
  Speaker 16: Is it?
• 1:04:41
  Speaker 4: Two?
• 1:04:41
  Speaker 5: Super Bowl runs.
• 1:04:42
  Speaker 6: Is that is that what gets him in?
• 1:04:43
  Speaker 10: There?
• 1:04:43
  Speaker 6: Is there any other kind of.
• 1:04:45
  Speaker 8: It's who he be.
• 1:04:48
  Speaker 4: In New York, the voters have Pat and Manning.
• 1:04:52
  Speaker 6: So my my food for thought was just you know,
• 1:04:54
  Speaker 6: what would a could a defensive player ever do?
• 1:04:56
  Speaker 12: That?
• 1:04:56
  Speaker 6: Could a defensive player ever get in onto you know,
• 1:05:00
  Speaker 6: super Bowl titles where they had an exceptional run and
• 1:05:03
  Speaker 6: this one particular player, I mean, I'm just going to
• 1:05:05
  Speaker 6: throw it out there, in two super Bowl runs six games.
• 1:05:08
  Speaker 6: This player had played six games, six interceptions, an interception,
• 1:05:13
  Speaker 6: td UH, five passes, defense, two forced fumbles, two sacks
• 1:05:18
  Speaker 6: and UH and had almost fifty tackles in those two
• 1:05:21
  Speaker 6: Super Bowl runs for a defensive player. That's those pretty
• 1:05:24
  Speaker 6: good stats. I just thought, you know, Rodney Harrison had
• 1:05:28
  Speaker 6: two really good super Bowl runs, even hugely productive. And
• 1:05:32
  Speaker 6: so if you want to say, you know, Eli Manning
• 1:05:33
  Speaker 6: could get in off a two runs, I know everything
• 1:05:35
  Speaker 6: else you're saying. I just thought it was interesting food
• 1:05:36
  Speaker 6: that you're talking about two playoff runs like Rodney in
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 6: those two playoff runs, I mean, that's crazy, like six interceptions.
• 1:05:43
  Speaker 2: And I would even think the case that forget about
• 1:05:45
  Speaker 2: the runs, he had a better career at his position.
• 1:05:49
  Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean I think that's sure, like maybe overall back,
• 1:05:53
  Speaker 6: but I just thought an interesting kind of com here's
• 1:05:55
  Speaker 6: my favorite Patriots.
• 1:05:56
  Speaker 5: So I'm not exactly the most unbiased there, but.
• 1:05:58
  Speaker 6: I just was I would would jump out to me
• 1:06:00
  Speaker 6: as I thought of that, and then I'm like, what
• 1:06:01
  Speaker 6: I mean. Eli Manning stats in those two runs were great.
• 1:06:04
  Speaker 6: I mean he had like one one interception and either
• 1:06:07
  Speaker 6: of the two runs, maybe two. But but Rodney, my god,
• 1:06:10
  Speaker 6: I mean, and especially as I've gone back through these games,
• 1:06:12
  Speaker 6: like he's just constantly popping up with big picks and
• 1:06:15
  Speaker 6: obviously sealed Super Bowl thirty nine, which was twenty years
• 1:06:18
  Speaker 6: ago today. Hey, so that was my little food for
• 1:06:22
  Speaker 6: thought of just even get on, even get on.
• 1:06:24
  Speaker 4: Yeah, that's that's an anti Patriots, it is.
• 1:06:28
  Speaker 2: It is the voters don't like the Patriots.
• 1:06:30
  Speaker 5: Is there ever going to be a time that we
• 1:06:31
  Speaker 5: stopped with that?
• 1:06:32
  Speaker 12: No?
• 1:06:33
  Speaker 4: No, when they treat us like every other dynasty that's
• 1:06:36
  Speaker 4: ever lived, and they can stop with that, right when
• 1:06:38
  Speaker 4: they have seventeen Pittsburgh Steelers in.
• 1:06:40
  Speaker 2: The stop trying to diminish our accomplishments, and maybe we'll
• 1:06:43
  Speaker 2: back off.
• 1:06:44
  Speaker 4: One hundred forty forty nine ers, but the Patriots defend
• 1:06:48
  Speaker 4: the wall. We have to We have to scrap and
• 1:06:50
  Speaker 4: claw to get The greatest dynasty in the history is
• 1:06:53
  Speaker 4: Sports Hall of Fame.
• 1:06:55
  Speaker 2: We don't get no respect. You know what. They hate us,
• 1:07:00
  Speaker 2: they hate it.
• 1:07:00
  Speaker 6: They don't care about us anymore. I hope so come on,
• 1:07:05
  Speaker 6: irrelevant last year, But what are we going to do?
• 1:07:07
  Speaker 4: I'm kidding, not really.
• 1:07:10
  Speaker 2: Ryan in situate says, Paul is a national hero, national treasure,
• 1:07:17
  Speaker 2: national treasure. That my new favorite thing in the show is,
• 1:07:21
  Speaker 2: to nobody's surprise, one of Paul's quirks. Whenever an email
• 1:07:25
  Speaker 2: or a caller chimes in and Paul doesn't agree, always
• 1:07:27
  Speaker 2: turns to Evan, where they have a quiet conversation amongst
• 1:07:30
  Speaker 2: the two of them where they take subtle shots at
• 1:07:33
  Speaker 2: the opinion. To add on to that, I also love
• 1:07:35
  Speaker 2: when Fred says something and Paul responds with something that
• 1:07:38
  Speaker 2: completely contradicts what Fred just said. Fred simply replies with, yeah,
• 1:07:42
  Speaker 2: never changed. Love the show. She's thirty one, Eagles twenty.
• 1:07:46
  Speaker 4: Four so high scorers.
• 1:07:51
  Speaker 2: Yep, let's see Stephen and Iron in right, sin just
• 1:07:57
  Speaker 2: in reference to the twenty eighteen Super Bowl against the Eagles.
• 1:07:59
  Speaker 2: Something I've never really heard spoken, but I've always felt
• 1:08:03
  Speaker 2: myself Malcolm Butler being out wasn't as big of a
• 1:08:06
  Speaker 2: loss to the team as High Tower being out was.
• 1:08:09
  Speaker 2: In the three Super Bowls he played, he played and
• 1:08:12
  Speaker 2: he made plays to get a stop turnover in each one.
• 1:08:15
  Speaker 2: If if High Tower was healthy, I believe we win
• 1:08:18
  Speaker 2: that game with or without Butler. I also think Butler
• 1:08:22
  Speaker 2: in the AFC Championship game was not great, so maybe
• 1:08:24
  Speaker 2: it added to what unfolded that led to the benching.
• 1:08:28
  Speaker 4: Well, High Tower was out for most of the season,
• 1:08:30
  Speaker 4: so it's a little bit different. Like Hi Tower played
• 1:08:32
  Speaker 4: five games in twenty seventeen, so it's I mean, they weren't.
• 1:08:36
  Speaker 4: They were never gonna have High Tower, is my point.
• 1:08:38
  Speaker 4: Like you know, he was on injured reserve, he was out.
• 1:08:40
  Speaker 4: They had Malcolm Butler healthy and available and didn't play him.
• 1:08:44
  Speaker 6: It's a good point though he was a huge I
• 1:08:45
  Speaker 6: mean I always referenced that twenty fifteen game in Denver
• 1:08:48
  Speaker 6: when when he went out and then all of a sudden,
• 1:08:50
  Speaker 6: they just started running all I mean, I think even
• 1:08:52
  Speaker 6: the game winning touchdown in overtime was like them just
• 1:08:54
  Speaker 6: running wide zone like rope right through the right through
• 1:08:57
  Speaker 6: the Patriots defense.
• 1:08:58
  Speaker 5: But yeah, not the Hopper's muff game Poppers muff.
• 1:09:01
  Speaker 6: That's the one. That's the one.
• 1:09:04
  Speaker 2: Jeff in Canada. I know this is probably not something
• 1:09:06
  Speaker 2: the team would announce publicly, but do you have any
• 1:09:09
  Speaker 2: inside baseball knowledge on any additions to the analytics department?
• 1:09:14
  Speaker 2: Rabel said the a word in his introductory introductory press conference,
• 1:09:19
  Speaker 2: and we hear anything about that.
• 1:09:21
  Speaker 4: There is one guy that name is excaving me. I'll
• 1:09:24
  Speaker 4: look it up that came over from the Red Sox. Actually,
• 1:09:28
  Speaker 4: but this happened in December, so it happened actually under
• 1:09:32
  Speaker 4: Gerrod technically and more of like probably an Elliot Gerad move.
• 1:09:37
  Speaker 4: But there was a guy that came over from the
• 1:09:39
  Speaker 4: Red Sox and he is now working in the Patriots
• 1:09:42
  Speaker 4: front office in the analytics department. So we now have
• 1:09:46
  Speaker 4: two analytics staffers. We went from one to two. We
• 1:09:48
  Speaker 4: doubled in size.
• 1:09:49
  Speaker 2: Teddy Bruski on with one of Paul's shows at the
• 1:09:52
  Speaker 2: Super Bowl. That hair, it's unbelievable, It's unbelievable for the
• 1:09:57
  Speaker 2: super Bowl.
• 1:09:58
  Speaker 6: This is tell us more kill your hand through it.
• 1:10:00
  Speaker 6: I mean wonderful.
• 1:10:02
  Speaker 2: This is still as are the most talented team the
• 1:10:08
  Speaker 2: Chiefs have played all year by a lot, and they're
• 1:10:11
  Speaker 2: not ready for them for this reason, thirty one twenty
• 1:10:13
  Speaker 2: three Eagles.
• 1:10:16
  Speaker 6: Okay, I don't know.
• 1:10:17
  Speaker 2: So the Chiefs haven't had enough good competition, is what
• 1:10:20
  Speaker 2: he's saying.
• 1:10:21
  Speaker 5: Which I'm not arguing with his his premise that the
• 1:10:23
  Speaker 5: Eagles are the most talented team. I think the Eagles
• 1:10:26
  Speaker 5: are the most talented team in football, and they haven't
• 1:10:28
  Speaker 5: played them, so this will be the most talented team
• 1:10:30
  Speaker 5: they play. But like they're not ready for them. They
• 1:10:32
  Speaker 5: lose by a touchdown, you know what I mean. It's
• 1:10:37
  Speaker 5: like they're not ready for them. They lose forty one.
• 1:10:40
  Speaker 5: That makes sense, They're not ready for this step up
• 1:10:43
  Speaker 5: in competition, not thirty one twenty three.
• 1:10:46
  Speaker 2: Like that, You could go either way, Isaac writes in
• 1:10:49
  Speaker 2: do you think Drake May's experience in the Pro Bowl
• 1:10:51
  Speaker 2: and rubbing elbows with other stars helps the Patriots in
• 1:10:54
  Speaker 2: free agency?
• 1:10:55
  Speaker 12: No?
• 1:10:57
  Speaker 6: Not really, but I do.
• 1:10:58
  Speaker 13: I do.
• 1:10:58
  Speaker 6: I think more about just him being around these guys
• 1:11:01
  Speaker 6: and you know, just being more comfortable being in a
• 1:11:04
  Speaker 6: face of an NFL franchise, and I just think it's
• 1:11:07
  Speaker 6: good for his confidence. You know, I don't really care
• 1:11:09
  Speaker 6: about playing in the Pro Bowl, getting named to the
• 1:11:11
  Speaker 6: Pro Bowl, but just being there and being a part
• 1:11:13
  Speaker 6: of it, being around these guys, getting to talk to
• 1:11:16
  Speaker 6: some of the other quarterbacks, maybe picked their mind a
• 1:11:17
  Speaker 6: little bit about their process and how they do it.
• 1:11:20
  Speaker 6: Although those are things to me that I think are
• 1:11:21
  Speaker 6: most valuable to Drake from.
• 1:11:22
  Speaker 5: Is it acceptable to just sort of say, like, I
• 1:11:24
  Speaker 5: don't really think it has much impact either way? Yes, like,
• 1:11:28
  Speaker 5: I don't think it. Certainly don't think. I think everything
• 1:11:31
  Speaker 5: Mike said makes a lot of sense, and I don't
• 1:11:34
  Speaker 5: necessarily think you need to go to the Pro Bowl
• 1:11:36
  Speaker 5: to do any of that. So I can you just
• 1:11:38
  Speaker 5: sort of say that's great for him if he enjoyed it.
• 1:11:40
  Speaker 5: I hope he embraced it and enjoyed it. But if
• 1:11:43
  Speaker 5: he didn't do it, I don't I wouldn't think any less.
• 1:11:46
  Speaker 4: That was the one takeaway I had, And granted he
• 1:11:48
  Speaker 4: could have just been putting on a good face for
• 1:11:50
  Speaker 4: the cameras, but it did genuinely seem like he enjoyed
• 1:11:53
  Speaker 4: his time there. I hope he did, and I think
• 1:11:55
  Speaker 4: that that could be potentially something, but I think it's
• 1:12:00
  Speaker 4: a little overblown that al he's talking to Jamar Chase,
• 1:12:03
  Speaker 4: like cool, tell me when the Bengals give up work out.
• 1:12:07
  Speaker 5: Together to you know, and I'm sure that he'll do
• 1:12:10
  Speaker 5: that in the off season and be with you know.
• 1:12:12
  Speaker 5: Like I don't know. I think sometimes we try to
• 1:12:15
  Speaker 5: attach value to everything.
• 1:12:18
  Speaker 8: And with social media, they all know each other already.
• 1:12:20
  Speaker 8: They're talking if they want to be talking, Like.
• 1:12:24
  Speaker 5: Who's the who's the quarterbacks that were with the in
• 1:12:27
  Speaker 5: the National CHAMPI was that Riley Leonard and Will Howard
• 1:12:31
  Speaker 5: that were like roommates at the Manning camp or something
• 1:12:34
  Speaker 5: like that? Is that the one or my confusion that
• 1:12:37
  Speaker 5: with two different.
• 1:12:37
  Speaker 4: Guys that could be right?
• 1:12:38
  Speaker 5: But Drake is also they know each other, is my point.
• 1:12:41
  Speaker 2: Drake is also at the Super Bowl. He's been walking around.
• 1:12:44
  Speaker 2: I don't know, like if there's a reason he's down there,
• 1:12:47
  Speaker 2: I just Christian Kyle. I don't know if he's down
• 1:12:50
  Speaker 2: there like usually guys that are down there as sponsored.
• 1:12:53
  Speaker 6: Ye, I think he was doing a thing, okay.
• 1:12:56
  Speaker 4: So, but I don't think it hurts.
• 1:12:58
  Speaker 2: I don't think it hurts for him to be exposed
• 1:13:01
  Speaker 2: to as many other players as possible, because you never
• 1:13:03
  Speaker 2: know a guy's like, yeah, I met him, he's a
• 1:13:05
  Speaker 2: pretty good guy. I wouldn't mind playing with him. Yeah, sure,
• 1:13:09
  Speaker 2: can't hurt, can't hurt. Let's see who's this this is Mike.
• 1:13:14
  Speaker 2: He says, you can tell a lot by the way
• 1:13:16
  Speaker 2: a person sits and placement of their legs and feet.
• 1:13:20
  Speaker 2: Fred and Paul sit with two feet firm on the ground.
• 1:13:22
  Speaker 2: Fred being in charge, Paul thinking he is plus plus
• 1:13:26
  Speaker 2: it's good plus. It's an old man thing. Evan sits
• 1:13:29
  Speaker 2: with one leg folded over the other straight form, basically
• 1:13:33
  Speaker 2: claiming his superiority and someday thinking I'll be the boss.
• 1:13:37
  Speaker 2: Mike sits with one leg folding over the other at
• 1:13:41
  Speaker 2: the knee, flopping the leg. He's contemplating if Paul will
• 1:13:46
  Speaker 2: ever let him finish his second and questioning his manhood.
• 1:13:50
  Speaker 2: Don't overthink it, gentlemen, It'll drive you crazed.
• 1:13:55
  Speaker 4: I kind of agree with you.
• 1:13:59
  Speaker 6: Well, those new chairs got it. Really, your legs are
• 1:14:01
  Speaker 6: on display. I mean, I don't have to tell Alex
• 1:14:03
  Speaker 6: about that. I think our first show you.
• 1:14:04
  Speaker 8: Were Yeah, it came like a spur or shorts or
• 1:14:08
  Speaker 8: a dress or something that is not going to work.
• 1:14:10
  Speaker 8: We raise that camera a little bit like you mention
• 1:14:12
  Speaker 8: the chairs are so deep that I look like a
• 1:14:14
  Speaker 8: toddler sitting in it because my feet are just like
• 1:14:16
  Speaker 8: the inglish like bring.
• 1:14:17
  Speaker 2: Your legs up and get like really cozy?
• 1:14:19
  Speaker 4: Are you not owning?
• 1:14:20
  Speaker 5: You're not owning the chair?
• 1:14:22
  Speaker 8: Well, when I do get cozy in it, I'm like
• 1:14:24
  Speaker 8: sitting cross legged in it because it's so big.
• 1:14:26
  Speaker 5: It's very uncomfortable.
• 1:14:28
  Speaker 4: I try to own the chair and then I'm like
• 1:14:31
  Speaker 4: my posture shut.
• 1:14:32
  Speaker 8: Jerry look too comfortable?
• 1:14:34
  Speaker 6: You see Edelman? Edelman always he's got kind of the
• 1:14:35
  Speaker 6: thing he does where he's leg He's got a nice
• 1:14:39
  Speaker 6: kind kind of like yeah, a little bit, a little bit. Yeah,
• 1:14:43
  Speaker 6: he's always got like the short short he wants like
• 1:14:45
  Speaker 6: hamstrings and the eyes out he wants to.
• 1:14:49
  Speaker 2: Let's go to the tp x houtline. Nathan's in LA.
• 1:14:52
  Speaker 2: What's up, Nathan Nelson?
• 1:14:54
  Speaker 5: That's Nelson.
• 1:14:54
  Speaker 2: Oh Nelson, Nelson Nelson with sorry, I just don't swear.
• 1:15:05
  Speaker 10: People are gonna win it thirty one or twenty four,
• 1:15:08
  Speaker 10: you know, like us, we won the Eagles the first
• 1:15:10
  Speaker 10: time when the Super Bowl and then they came out
• 1:15:12
  Speaker 10: to beat us. Had it did he beat him the
• 1:15:14
  Speaker 10: first time in the Super Bowl? And I think the
• 1:15:16
  Speaker 10: Eagles are gonna come back hungry and Barker's gonna take
• 1:15:19
  Speaker 10: it all the way.
• 1:15:20
  Speaker 2: Okay, Yeah, so Eagles put another one down for Eagles.
• 1:15:24
  Speaker 2: I'm supposed to be doing all to one Eagle so
• 1:15:26
  Speaker 2: far a.
• 1:15:27
  Speaker 4: Little time, I do like five Eagles. Five.
• 1:15:29
  Speaker 5: I didn't remember anything. It's it's a good.
• 1:15:31
  Speaker 2: Yeah. One person.
• 1:15:32
  Speaker 5: One person picked the cheeky.
• 1:15:34
  Speaker 2: Eldred in North Carolina. What's up, Eldred? Hey?
• 1:15:38
  Speaker 17: So say, lady, how y'all are doing today?
• 1:15:40
  Speaker 2: All right?
• 1:15:41
  Speaker 5: Lady?
• 1:15:42
  Speaker 10: All right?
• 1:15:43
  Speaker 4: Uh excuse me? Love it?
• 1:15:48
  Speaker 2: Okay?
• 1:15:49
  Speaker 17: About to receives in the draft, Uh.
• 1:15:51
  Speaker 4: Huh, Okay, it's gonna be game.
• 1:15:54
  Speaker 13: Okay.
• 1:15:55
  Speaker 17: Sure, one receiver ninety six steps, don't care, one hundred
• 1:15:59
  Speaker 17: one yeah, thirteen point one average, one hundred twenty five
• 1:16:05
  Speaker 17: one thofty eight yards, fifteen touchdown.
• 1:16:09
  Speaker 4: Okay.
• 1:16:09
  Speaker 17: The other receiver at eighty four reception thirty one hundred
• 1:16:13
  Speaker 17: and thirty targets, fifteen point seven yards per average, thirteen
• 1:16:19
  Speaker 17: nineteen yards. Which one would you take?
• 1:16:25
  Speaker 6: See?
• 1:16:27
  Speaker 4: I'm trying to fall plays on the outside.
• 1:16:31
  Speaker 5: Which one place on the outside?
• 1:16:33
  Speaker 17: They're both outside the outside.
• 1:16:35
  Speaker 4: I'm gonna say the second one. I couldn't keep tracking.
• 1:16:40
  Speaker 17: Okay, good. The circle is t MAC, the one you
• 1:16:43
  Speaker 17: said you wouldn't take.
• 1:16:44
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I wanted to get picked the wrong Who is
• 1:16:46
  Speaker 4: the first one?
• 1:16:48
  Speaker 5: Who was the first one?
• 1:16:49
  Speaker 17: Big e fav of counter fab counter? Yeah, i would
• 1:16:53
  Speaker 17: take t MAC at four, But then again, I'd rather
• 1:16:56
  Speaker 17: have the left tack or protectmate.
• 1:16:58
  Speaker 2: Wow, that's gross, Wow, Eldred taking the tackle over the.
• 1:17:05
  Speaker 5: Tackle over the receiver.
• 1:17:07
  Speaker 17: Wow, we ain't got no line.
• 1:17:09
  Speaker 2: What happened?
• 1:17:09
  Speaker 4: You hit your head or something you saw down alder?
• 1:17:11
  Speaker 4: That's big of you man, that's growth.
• 1:17:14
  Speaker 17: Okay, yeah, no, no, But but like I said, I'd
• 1:17:17
  Speaker 17: rather have t MAC if what you call. But I
• 1:17:20
  Speaker 17: know what we need more, and.
• 1:17:21
  Speaker 10: That's some protection.
• 1:17:23
  Speaker 17: And if they if they go ahead and get your DK,
• 1:17:27
  Speaker 17: because they're not gonna get here, diggers ain't leave it.
• 1:17:29
  Speaker 17: They get DK DK, I'll be had. But I'd rather
• 1:17:33
  Speaker 17: have t MAC on the other side with DK. And
• 1:17:37
  Speaker 17: you got a force with what you called it, with
• 1:17:39
  Speaker 17: with what you called in the middle, so you know
• 1:17:42
  Speaker 17: you got that and the guy does. He might not
• 1:17:44
  Speaker 17: have top speed, but he is fast and he does
• 1:17:47
  Speaker 17: get over top of the route, middle of the route,
• 1:17:49
  Speaker 17: and he's protest catches and once you get the hand
• 1:17:52
  Speaker 17: on the ball, he's gone gone all right, So I
• 1:17:55
  Speaker 17: rather have him too, But I really have a tack.
• 1:17:57
  Speaker 2: Who do you have in the Super Bowl?
• 1:17:59
  Speaker 4: Who do you like?
• 1:17:59
  Speaker 5: Sign down?
• 1:18:03
  Speaker 2: Eagles? Iggles? Okay, wow, hold him down all right, Aldred, thanks,
• 1:18:08
  Speaker 2: have a good one.
• 1:18:09
  Speaker 5: Thanks, Biggie, Thank you. Love to stack him at the stem.
• 1:18:12
  Speaker 4: Yeah he had.
• 1:18:13
  Speaker 5: He had a lot of your buzzwords. You had to
• 1:18:14
  Speaker 5: like that call.
• 1:18:15
  Speaker 4: I loved that call from Eldrid and that was some
• 1:18:17
  Speaker 4: real growth picking the tackle over the receiver. I know
• 1:18:19
  Speaker 4: that's difficult for people stunning, but I will say this
• 1:18:23
  Speaker 4: about Eldrid. Him liking Teed McMillan's the most predictable thing ever.
• 1:18:26
  Speaker 4: I told you, receiver, I actually you know he read
• 1:18:30
  Speaker 4: all those numbers. I often don't even look at the numbers. Uh.
• 1:18:34
  Speaker 4: In college, I don't really think that that trans Like
• 1:18:37
  Speaker 4: Nikhil Harry had three monster seasons in college at production.
• 1:18:41
  Speaker 4: But I hear what he said. He's he's a good player.
• 1:18:43
  Speaker 4: I just think it's a little rich at four.
• 1:18:45
  Speaker 2: That's all. Diana in New Hampshire. I read an article
• 1:18:48
  Speaker 2: today that Adam van Terry wanted to stay as a Patriot,
• 1:18:51
  Speaker 2: but they wouldn't give him multiple years and Colts wanted
• 1:18:53
  Speaker 2: him more and gave him what he wanted. Yet and
• 1:18:55
  Speaker 2: all to do with money, And it all to do
• 1:18:57
  Speaker 2: with money. I'm rooting for the Eagles to win. Absolutely
• 1:19:00
  Speaker 2: don't want Chiefs to repeat as I'm sick of people
• 1:19:04
  Speaker 2: saying Mahomes is as good or better than Brady. No
• 1:19:07
  Speaker 2: way is he even close yet? Prediction Eagles twenty seven,
• 1:19:11
  Speaker 2: Chiefs twenty four. So close game.
• 1:19:14
  Speaker 6: I just think everybody's picking with their hearts and they
• 1:19:17
  Speaker 6: don't want my homes sont make.
• 1:19:18
  Speaker 5: An argument for the Eagles.
• 1:19:19
  Speaker 4: They're the better team.
• 1:19:20
  Speaker 10: No.
• 1:19:20
  Speaker 6: I mean, I'm saying some of the talent, sure, but
• 1:19:24
  Speaker 6: I feel like a lot of I.
• 1:19:25
  Speaker 5: Don't think they're the better team because I think it's
• 1:19:27
  Speaker 5: just too big of a difference in the quarterbacks. But
• 1:19:29
  Speaker 5: I think you can make an argument at the top
• 1:19:30
  Speaker 5: to bottom they have better talent.
• 1:19:31
  Speaker 2: I guess yeah, we're saying the same Mike and Charlotte
• 1:19:34
  Speaker 2: Eagles thirty five, Chiefs twenty one. A lot of points
• 1:19:38
  Speaker 2: over forty eight and a half.
• 1:19:39
  Speaker 4: Yeah, better go get those points.
• 1:19:42
  Speaker 5: Oh I missed that.
• 1:19:43
  Speaker 2: Eagles.
• 1:19:45
  Speaker 4: I'm with do somethink A lot of people picking with
• 1:19:46
  Speaker 4: their hearts, not with their heads on this.
• 1:19:49
  Speaker 2: Martin out of Kansas says my pick is Chiefs thirty six,
• 1:19:53
  Speaker 2: Eagles thirty in an overtime win, Chiefs three, pete and food.
• 1:19:57
  Speaker 2: I'll be grilling some marinated skirts st to make tacos, beans,
• 1:20:01
  Speaker 2: rice with homemade sALS.
• 1:20:03
  Speaker 4: Nice.
• 1:20:04
  Speaker 6: That sounds good. I think I'm gonna do a roast.
• 1:20:05
  Speaker 6: I'm gonna try to do a roast.
• 1:20:06
  Speaker 2: You gonna do a roast roast? It seems a little
• 1:20:09
  Speaker 2: aggressive for Super Bowl, but it would be nice if
• 1:20:14
  Speaker 2: holiday roast. It seems like too much work for you.
• 1:20:17
  Speaker 2: Just get the meat, roast roast.
• 1:20:22
  Speaker 5: I just think it's kind of odd super Bowl fair.
• 1:20:24
  Speaker 5: I don't think it's all.
• 1:20:25
  Speaker 2: That baking oysters rocke fell.
• 1:20:29
  Speaker 6: Id I have ever since I went to my sisters
• 1:20:32
  Speaker 6: for Christmas. They made a roast that I just was like,
• 1:20:34
  Speaker 6: oh my god, I had the horse radish you'll never met.
• 1:20:37
  Speaker 6: You're probably right, but I'm gonna try.
• 1:20:40
  Speaker 4: All right, that's a good pick.
• 1:20:42
  Speaker 6: Don't let them, don't let them talk mashed potato.
• 1:20:45
  Speaker 5: It's going to be the snow like the Super Bowl
• 1:20:48
  Speaker 5: to me is sort of like.
• 1:20:50
  Speaker 8: Buffalo chicken dip rings.
• 1:20:53
  Speaker 2: Easy stuff, easy stuff you can pick at because it's
• 1:20:56
  Speaker 2: a long day something.
• 1:20:58
  Speaker 8: You're right, the picking us gradually, like.
• 1:21:02
  Speaker 2: You've got a pre game, you got off game, you
• 1:21:04
  Speaker 2: got halftime, you got second half.
• 1:21:06
  Speaker 6: I'm not having a party though, Like it's just my family.
• 1:21:08
  Speaker 6: So I'm like, let's have dinner and then we'll have
• 1:21:10
  Speaker 6: some picking snacks too, but the focus is going to
• 1:21:12
  Speaker 6: be my roast, with my food.
• 1:21:15
  Speaker 4: You have one big meal because like, I don't want
• 1:21:16
  Speaker 4: to be distracted by having.
• 1:21:18
  Speaker 8: To like what if you're in a food can you
• 1:21:21
  Speaker 8: fall asleep?
• 1:21:21
  Speaker 2: I can see Mikey makes this beautiful roast and everybody
• 1:21:25
  Speaker 2: eats all the other stuff and nobody eats the roasts.
• 1:21:29
  Speaker 6: And my kids were no party. I mean, we're gonna
• 1:21:31
  Speaker 6: be in the snow. I'm not going to run into
• 1:21:32
  Speaker 6: a problem, like you know, Paul's got to figure out
• 1:21:34
  Speaker 6: how to get grandparents to and from through a blizzard,
• 1:21:36
  Speaker 6: and you know it's.
• 1:21:37
  Speaker 4: I'm worried about the snow.
• 1:21:38
  Speaker 1: I am.
• 1:21:39
  Speaker 5: I'm a little worried about the snow, but the food
• 1:21:41
  Speaker 5: I'm not worried about.
• 1:21:42
  Speaker 4: I think I might have to cancel my plans like mac.
• 1:21:44
  Speaker 5: And cheese, wings, dip, absolutely nachos. Yeah, I'm pizza, apps,
• 1:21:52
  Speaker 5: it's Super Bowl is a day of apps.
• 1:21:55
  Speaker 6: Yeah, day of farting all day and all that.
• 1:21:57
  Speaker 8: But I like your family.
• 1:22:02
  Speaker 4: If you have a roasted potatoes cheese.
• 1:22:04
  Speaker 6: You gonna have cheese and then some more cheese and
• 1:22:06
  Speaker 6: probably some cheese in there, some beans.
• 1:22:12
  Speaker 2: That's going on?
• 1:22:14
  Speaker 5: What is going on in the bullpen?
• 1:22:16
  Speaker 6: Worried about.
• 1:22:19
  Speaker 2: Those things?
• 1:22:20
  Speaker 8: Plug into the wall and let's have the glade pluggings.
• 1:22:26
  Speaker 2: Holy macro.
• 1:22:27
  Speaker 6: What's the cheese sticks?
• 1:22:30
  Speaker 5: Another the other solid option. I won't have cheese. I
• 1:22:34
  Speaker 5: think we'll have potato skins. I think we got like
• 1:22:38
  Speaker 5: a way it's wings sticks and in skins.
• 1:22:43
  Speaker 6: Like the wings, I like them.
• 1:22:44
  Speaker 4: I'm not surprised that your potato skins, guy, that right
• 1:22:46
  Speaker 4: up here.
• 1:22:47
  Speaker 5: Not my favorite really, I mean, I mean I like them.
• 1:22:49
  Speaker 5: But if I have like the buffalo stuff, not I
• 1:22:55
  Speaker 5: would go to those first. Okay, wings, wings are my face.
• 1:23:00
  Speaker 5: Buffalo fread's burn out with me, and we ever gone
• 1:23:03
  Speaker 5: out with and I didn't get buffalo wings.
• 1:23:05
  Speaker 2: You gotta get wings.
• 1:23:06
  Speaker 5: You got to get the adam and not the tenders
• 1:23:09
  Speaker 5: with no bone.
• 1:23:10
  Speaker 4: That's called a boneless chicken wing.
• 1:23:14
  Speaker 5: It's a tender.
• 1:23:15
  Speaker 2: No, it's a tender.
• 1:23:15
  Speaker 4: It's a.
• 1:23:18
  Speaker 2: Boneless chicken tender, No boneless chicken wing.
• 1:23:20
  Speaker 8: They just called a boneless wing to make you feel better.
• 1:23:22
  Speaker 2: A boneless wings.
• 1:23:23
  Speaker 4: Generous there is. That's what it is.
• 1:23:25
  Speaker 8: It's not what part of the chicken does it come from?
• 1:23:27
  Speaker 4: I don't care.
• 1:23:28
  Speaker 2: Not the wings exactly exactly, good, good, Alex. Why do
• 1:23:34
  Speaker 2: you have to be stubborn.
• 1:23:36
  Speaker 4: Because when you go to a wings place, they're called
• 1:23:41
  Speaker 4: boneless wings.
• 1:23:42
  Speaker 2: Very few do that anymore. They've been corrected, correct real
• 1:23:46
  Speaker 2: establishment tender.
• 1:23:48
  Speaker 4: But I think the biggest, the biggest way separating tenders
• 1:23:52
  Speaker 4: are not sauce tenders are dry and you dip in sauce.
• 1:23:56
  Speaker 5: Buffalo tenders.
• 1:23:58
  Speaker 4: Boneless wings are right on the menu, are sauce. They're
• 1:24:01
  Speaker 4: tossed in the sauce.
• 1:24:02
  Speaker 5: Sauce, but not milky sauce.
• 1:24:05
  Speaker 4: Not the tenders. Those are dipping, you dip those.
• 1:24:08
  Speaker 2: Okay.
• 1:24:09
  Speaker 8: So the windy spicy nuggets, Oh yes, it's not. That's
• 1:24:14
  Speaker 8: not a boneless wing in your mind because it's a nugget.
• 1:24:17
  Speaker 8: It has sauce on it.
• 1:24:18
  Speaker 4: But it's but it's hot nuggets shaped.
• 1:24:22
  Speaker 8: See where going It's just the shape though boneless.
• 1:24:25
  Speaker 2: Your boneless wings aren't shaped like wings.
• 1:24:27
  Speaker 4: E shape shapes a factor.
• 1:24:29
  Speaker 2: Yeah, but they're not shaped like wings. You're boneless things things.
• 1:24:37
  Speaker 6: They broke ground on the Chick fil A?
• 1:24:38
  Speaker 2: People, Is that what that is?
• 1:24:41
  Speaker 4: You should are all in?
• 1:24:44
  Speaker 6: Should no? I know that that was on the it
• 1:24:47
  Speaker 6: was on the stadium. We just got a Chick fil
• 1:24:51
  Speaker 6: A and walpole about three miles that way.
• 1:24:54
  Speaker 5: Excited about it and got fifteen times.
• 1:24:57
  Speaker 6: I got kids and they like it.
• 1:24:58
  Speaker 5: I just like, back to what Mike.
• 1:25:02
  Speaker 6: Least twice, no question about it.
• 1:25:05
  Speaker 4: You like, what do you get a Chick fil A?
• 1:25:07
  Speaker 6: I'll get a chicken. I'll do I grilled chicken sandwich
• 1:25:10
  Speaker 6: a couple of times. They're pretty good.
• 1:25:14
  Speaker 8: They don't do anything.
• 1:25:15
  Speaker 6: I always get some of those nuggets though. I always
• 1:25:17
  Speaker 6: got to get a little the little wing dang things
• 1:25:19
  Speaker 6: they got there though, too.
• 1:25:20
  Speaker 2: Adam and Louisiana. That's good, he says fred. I have
• 1:25:23
  Speaker 2: a gripe with the Patriots Pro shop. Why can't I
• 1:25:27
  Speaker 2: buy a Tom Brady jersey in the old two thousand style.
• 1:25:30
  Speaker 2: I went through my collection of jerseys and realized I
• 1:25:32
  Speaker 2: don't fit the clothes I wore fifteen years ago. Shocker,
• 1:25:35
  Speaker 2: I know, but I was looking to buy a new one.
• 1:25:37
  Speaker 2: And all they have are the new blueberries. I want
• 1:25:41
  Speaker 2: the nostalgia. I don't want to buy a jersey in
• 1:25:44
  Speaker 2: the new style for players that hardly or never wore them. Also,
• 1:25:47
  Speaker 2: I don't want to buy them because I don't think
• 1:25:49
  Speaker 2: they'll be around much longer. Any hints on that freat I.
• 1:25:53
  Speaker 6: Think that's a great email. I think those those unions
• 1:25:55
  Speaker 6: got to come back some capacity, especially in the pro shop.
• 1:25:58
  Speaker 6: I mean, come on, leave money on the table.
• 1:26:00
  Speaker 8: When did they switch from Reebok to Nike twenty twelve
• 1:26:05
  Speaker 8: or was it that? So that's probably why you can't
• 1:26:07
  Speaker 8: find the early two thousands ones.
• 1:26:09
  Speaker 4: Yeah, you can't do the custom ones.
• 1:26:12
  Speaker 6: And I think it's just the blueberries.
• 1:26:14
  Speaker 4: Oh thought I thought you could pick though, maybe it's
• 1:26:17
  Speaker 4: just the throwbacks that they So.
• 1:26:19
  Speaker 12: What is what?
• 1:26:20
  Speaker 4: What do you?
• 1:26:20
  Speaker 2: What is the blueberries?
• 1:26:22
  Speaker 5: That's the current?
• 1:26:23
  Speaker 8: The current, that's the current uniform, the color rush that
• 1:26:25
  Speaker 8: turned in.
• 1:26:26
  Speaker 5: They're mockingly described as blueberries.
• 1:26:28
  Speaker 2: And what were the ones before that?
• 1:26:31
  Speaker 6: They called them the dynasty uniforms.
• 1:26:32
  Speaker 2: The dynasty unit how about that?
• 1:26:34
  Speaker 6: They want six super Bowls on them?
• 1:26:35
  Speaker 12: Right?
• 1:26:35
  Speaker 2: Okay, but what how do you refer to that color blue?
• 1:26:39
  Speaker 2: Wasn't it the same blue.
• 1:26:43
  Speaker 6: I think I had. That's a good question for I
• 1:26:45
  Speaker 6: think maybe the pants. When they switched to the plants and.
• 1:26:50
  Speaker 8: Change the modern style with the stripes, it looked like
• 1:26:53
  Speaker 8: the red throwbacks, but meat blue for color Rush.
• 1:26:56
  Speaker 2: I don't I don't care for him, okay, one writes
• 1:27:01
  Speaker 2: in this whole debate of TB twelve verse, Mahomes seems
• 1:27:04
  Speaker 2: silly until Mahomes does the following. I'm not willing to
• 1:27:07
  Speaker 2: consider the whole discussion. One Mahomes leaves and wins a
• 1:27:10
  Speaker 2: super Bowl with another team out from under red. Two
• 1:27:14
  Speaker 2: Mahomes wins a Super Bowl without Kelsey Brady did it
• 1:27:17
  Speaker 2: without Gronka, the most amazing comeback ever. Also, Fred asked
• 1:27:20
  Speaker 2: the question, who doesn't like Andy Reid? That's easy. Go
• 1:27:24
  Speaker 2: watch the corniest commercial ever made, the old Bundaruski, and
• 1:27:28
  Speaker 2: you'll change your mind.
• 1:27:29
  Speaker 4: I make.
• 1:28:30
  Speaker 16: Us.
• 1:29:23
  Speaker 2: What would your ideas be for a new uniform with
• 1:29:26
  Speaker 2: a new era of quarterback and head coach?
• 1:29:28
  Speaker 5: Fred?
• 1:29:28
  Speaker 2: Do you think do you know of anything in the work?
• 1:29:31
  Speaker 2: Since we're eligible for a UNI change this season, there
• 1:29:35
  Speaker 2: might be some information.
• 1:29:36
  Speaker 6: I like Paul's. I think your favorites are They did
• 1:29:38
  Speaker 6: the white shirt with the red pants. I think I
• 1:29:41
  Speaker 6: like that that's something that's been kind of lost a
• 1:29:43
  Speaker 6: little bit, that they haven't really worn.
• 1:29:45
  Speaker 5: I don't think there's a lot of that color combination
• 1:29:48
  Speaker 5: in the league. I feel like there's a lot of
• 1:29:50
  Speaker 5: very similar colors.
• 1:29:52
  Speaker 6: Buffalo, Yes, I mean Buffalo. I mean that those colors
• 1:29:55
  Speaker 6: are kind of buffalo. I mean if it wasn't that
• 1:29:56
  Speaker 6: you're wearing right.
• 1:29:57
  Speaker 5: And I've always had I like this hoodie because it's
• 1:30:01
  Speaker 5: very comfortable, but I always I am kind of curious
• 1:30:03
  Speaker 5: about the color of it.
• 1:30:04
  Speaker 2: Yeah, Matt, it seems audio has been lost.
• 1:30:08
  Speaker 5: Right back. We're back up.
• 1:30:09
  Speaker 2: We're back up. We're audioboard.
• 1:30:10
  Speaker 11: Glitchen shut down. You guys were off for two minutes.
• 1:30:12
  Speaker 2: Two minutes. That's an eternity.
• 1:30:14
  Speaker 5: Let me recap what we have said.
• 1:30:16
  Speaker 18: Oh my god, I f bombs around left, right, Buffalo
• 1:30:23
  Speaker 18: and congo, God quickly.
• 1:30:26
  Speaker 5: If the Chiefs win, it's only because of the crooked
• 1:30:29
  Speaker 5: refs uh and the Eagles will win. Instinks and everybody
• 1:30:34
  Speaker 5: hates Andy.
• 1:30:34
  Speaker 6: Reid thing scene.
• 1:30:35
  Speaker 2: Chad says, the other blue was called nautical blue. Nautical blue.
• 1:30:39
  Speaker 6: Okay, Dynasty, remember the hex code of it. You know,
• 1:30:42
  Speaker 6: they get like the hex code that tells you exactly
• 1:30:44
  Speaker 6: what blue was, and then you could right, and then
• 1:30:46
  Speaker 6: you could you know, if you're a t shirt making person,
• 1:30:49
  Speaker 6: we want the right blues.
• 1:30:50
  Speaker 8: They don't know how to code. They don't know what
• 1:30:52
  Speaker 8: we're talking about.
• 1:30:53
  Speaker 4: Me I do. How's it my fault?
• 1:30:55
  Speaker 2: You should be talking more ball back there, Eric, Eric
• 1:30:59
  Speaker 2: seems to think he has the answer about tenders versus wings.
• 1:31:03
  Speaker 2: A tender is a whole tenderloin uncut. A boneless wing
• 1:31:09
  Speaker 2: is a tender that has been cut. A nugget is
• 1:31:13
  Speaker 2: a ground mixture or a cut that has been pressed
• 1:31:15
  Speaker 2: and shaped.
• 1:31:16
  Speaker 6: I think he nailed it. I think he nailed it.
• 1:31:17
  Speaker 5: Some boneless wings do exist boneless because it's not from
• 1:31:21
  Speaker 5: the wing, like he said, boneless wings actual tenders.
• 1:31:26
  Speaker 6: What Either way, they're delicious.
• 1:31:28
  Speaker 2: I like them too. If it's chicken and it's fried,
• 1:31:31
  Speaker 2: I want to try anything, right, Todd says, Seeing it's
• 1:31:35
  Speaker 2: the off season for US Patriots fans and somewhat boring,
• 1:31:37
  Speaker 2: Oh thanks a lot. My son, Tyler, and I were
• 1:31:41
  Speaker 2: wondering what Fred gets for lunch when he says his
• 1:31:43
  Speaker 2: food is here before going to break Any local places
• 1:31:46
  Speaker 2: that stand out in the Foxborough area. My lunch choice
• 1:31:52
  Speaker 2: has to do with what I think I'm going to
• 1:31:53
  Speaker 2: be eating for dinner A lot of times, so if
• 1:31:56
  Speaker 2: I think I'm gonna have a lot of food for dinner,
• 1:31:58
  Speaker 2: I try to scale back.
• 1:32:00
  Speaker 9: Uh.
• 1:32:00
  Speaker 6: You know what you got on the tap tonight? You
• 1:32:02
  Speaker 6: gotta what a sandwich today?
• 1:32:03
  Speaker 5: Evidently you're not going to have much for dinner. A
• 1:32:07
  Speaker 5: small one that looked by the way, fantastic and it
• 1:32:11
  Speaker 5: smelled good and it was really good.
• 1:32:14
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, let's play a piece of time pizza.
• 1:32:17
  Speaker 6: I've heard of that.
• 1:32:18
  Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what we go there. Sometimes we haven't.
• 1:32:21
  Speaker 5: Heard about it. We gave it a shot. We'll see
• 1:32:24
  Speaker 5: if we continue.
• 1:32:24
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 1:32:25
  Speaker 6: Yeah, they're mad at Paulo.
• 1:32:27
  Speaker 4: I think some establishments the street they really are mad
• 1:32:31
  Speaker 4: at paul Every day I ordered, he says, that's it, Matthew,
• 1:32:33
  Speaker 4: come on.
• 1:32:37
  Speaker 11: Us.
• 1:32:37
  Speaker 5: I might have to step up my game, but I
• 1:32:39
  Speaker 5: need more money. I just can't small pep can't afford it.
• 1:32:42
  Speaker 2: The delivery driver calls me, Kevin Still Robin san Diego.
• 1:32:47
  Speaker 2: My wife listened to the last few shows and really
• 1:32:50
  Speaker 2: enjoyed the doughnut debate and the Taylor Swift discussion. I
• 1:32:53
  Speaker 2: told her about Mike's story of getting off the bus
• 1:32:56
  Speaker 2: in Bridgeport, Connecticut to play hockey, and she agreed Mike
• 1:32:59
  Speaker 2: was right to be apprehensive. She's from Bridgeport, and honestly,
• 1:33:02
  Speaker 2: I'm scared of her on a daily basis. That brings
• 1:33:07
  Speaker 2: me to my off season question, what's the sketchiest stadium
• 1:33:10
  Speaker 2: you've ever been to football or otherwise, whether because of
• 1:33:14
  Speaker 2: the neighborhood or something else for me, while you're thinking,
• 1:33:19
  Speaker 2: For me, it was watching the Rams play at the
• 1:33:21
  Speaker 2: LA Memorial Coliseum. I parked far away, and I'm about
• 1:33:25
  Speaker 2: ninety nine percent sure I walked through skid road to
• 1:33:27
  Speaker 2: get to the former New Haven Coliseum is a close second.
• 1:33:30
  Speaker 2: For hl Hot, Yeah, I've.
• 1:33:32
  Speaker 6: Been to the coliseum. That's pretty accurate.
• 1:33:34
  Speaker 4: I was about to say the costume.
• 1:33:35
  Speaker 6: You're parking in crappy territory right, walk right through New
• 1:33:40
  Speaker 6: havenl NO in l l a USC stadium that was
• 1:33:45
  Speaker 6: pretty bad. I mean that the old Chargers one was
• 1:33:47
  Speaker 6: pretty crummy.
• 1:33:48
  Speaker 5: Like share in terms of bad stadiums, the Oakland one,
• 1:33:54
  Speaker 5: San Diego one, Jack Murphy, I know it wasn't bad.
• 1:33:57
  Speaker 2: Veterans Stadium was the vet was a dump. You got
• 1:34:00
  Speaker 2: a hamstring pull just walking on the field's.
• 1:34:02
  Speaker 4: Terrible in Washington, right, that's dump is really at the
• 1:34:05
  Speaker 4: bottom of the league. And they're building or we're just
• 1:34:09
  Speaker 4: the build just got just got approved. Yeah, but nothing
• 1:34:12
  Speaker 4: beats the Coliseum.
• 1:34:14
  Speaker 5: And I've never been the.
• 1:34:15
  Speaker 2: Only parking lot that I've walked through that I said
• 1:34:18
  Speaker 2: things could get if he here was Oakland. Yeah, like
• 1:34:22
  Speaker 2: there was like some stuff.
• 1:34:23
  Speaker 5: Going on now I don't don't remember any of that.
• 1:34:26
  Speaker 2: The bills could be crazy, but it's in a good way.
• 1:34:29
  Speaker 2: Like they'll throw a beer can at the bus and
• 1:34:31
  Speaker 2: stuff like.
• 1:34:31
  Speaker 8: That, but in a good way.
• 1:34:33
  Speaker 2: It's all the fun.
• 1:34:34
  Speaker 6: I mean, it's all for I meant the old Patriots
• 1:34:39
  Speaker 6: Stadium that was a little skin when I was a kid.
• 1:34:42
  Speaker 5: I mean, that's probably.
• 1:34:44
  Speaker 2: You're right, and I was pretty right.
• 1:34:47
  Speaker 5: I mean had a lot of new words in my
• 1:34:49
  Speaker 5: first game nineteen seventy six.
• 1:34:51
  Speaker 8: That shout out to that emailer's wife for not calling
• 1:34:54
  Speaker 8: me a mean girl.
• 1:34:54
  Speaker 6: Oh yeah, you doesn't care for killers.
• 1:34:57
  Speaker 5: Was was not I'm not happy.
• 1:35:01
  Speaker 6: What did you think of her grammy outfit?
• 1:35:03
  Speaker 8: Alex, It wasn't that bad. She must have heard our discussion.
• 1:35:06
  Speaker 8: But I don't think it's a mean girl of me.
• 1:35:08
  Speaker 8: To one, I'm a Taylor Swift fan, paid my good
• 1:35:11
  Speaker 8: money to go to those concerts. And two, like, she's
• 1:35:13
  Speaker 8: a billion dollar entity. That's not like pitting two women
• 1:35:17
  Speaker 8: against each other. That's all I'll say.
• 1:35:22
  Speaker 6: Dropped the mic said a lot more than that off
• 1:35:24
  Speaker 6: the ear? Did she have like a chain with a
• 1:35:26
  Speaker 6: t on her thigh too?
• 1:35:27
  Speaker 8: Like call me a mean girl? If like if me
• 1:35:29
  Speaker 8: and Tamara had beef. That's one thing we're on like
• 1:35:32
  Speaker 8: similar level. Taylor Swift is a billion dollar entity that's
• 1:35:35
  Speaker 8: criticizing a corporation.
• 1:35:38
  Speaker 2: Right, A big word. Right?
• 1:35:39
  Speaker 4: The question though, Deuce was the tea for Taylor or
• 1:35:43
  Speaker 4: for Travis? That was the controversy.
• 1:35:46
  Speaker 8: It's probably because she has a song. It's a corny lyric.
• 1:35:54
  Speaker 6: To be honest.
• 1:35:55
  Speaker 8: What if he's written mine on my upper thigh so
• 1:35:58
  Speaker 8: it was falling on her upper thigh.
• 1:36:00
  Speaker 4: That's you know, Relax.
• 1:36:04
  Speaker 2: Jake and Melbourne, Australia. Right, sint just looking for some
• 1:36:06
  Speaker 2: clarification and why a quarter or a half inch of
• 1:36:09
  Speaker 2: arm leg seems to be a pretty big defining factor
• 1:36:12
  Speaker 2: on why Campbell could be as high as four to
• 1:36:14
  Speaker 2: the Patriots or some mocks having him around ten also
• 1:36:18
  Speaker 2: would Nick s Gorton be worth the assets to get
• 1:36:20
  Speaker 2: into the fifteen to twenties range and picking.
• 1:36:22
  Speaker 6: Him, that's welcome to the craziness of the combine. Baby,
• 1:36:26
  Speaker 6: it's a good question.
• 1:36:27
  Speaker 4: And the threshold used to be thirty four inches and
• 1:36:30
  Speaker 4: then Rashaun Slater came around. Now it's thirty three inches.
• 1:36:34
  Speaker 4: So really it's just a matter of the old cliche like,
• 1:36:39
  Speaker 4: it's really not any more complicated than that. Obviously, you know,
• 1:36:43
  Speaker 4: you want to be able to keep guys at arm's
• 1:36:45
  Speaker 4: length and at your fingertips, and the longer that you are,
• 1:36:48
  Speaker 4: the easier that is to do, just from a technique standpoint.
• 1:36:52
  Speaker 4: But there will be a day where a guy with
• 1:36:54
  Speaker 4: thirty two inch arms is an elite tackle because he's
• 1:36:57
  Speaker 4: just that good. And maybe that's Will Campbell. Don't know,
• 1:37:00
  Speaker 4: maybe it is, maybe it isn't. But there have been
• 1:37:03
  Speaker 4: guys that have been on the lower end of the spectrum.
• 1:37:06
  Speaker 4: You know, we had one here, Matt Light was on
• 1:37:09
  Speaker 4: the lower end of the spectrum and was a great
• 1:37:10
  Speaker 4: player for a long time. Right now, it's for Shan Slater.
• 1:37:14
  Speaker 4: Joe Thomas wasn't particularly long in the arm, so it's
• 1:37:18
  Speaker 4: not like you can't do it. But that's the old
• 1:37:21
  Speaker 4: adage is that you know, the longer that you are,
• 1:37:24
  Speaker 4: the easier it is to keep guys at bay and
• 1:37:27
  Speaker 4: pass protection especially yeap.
• 1:37:28
  Speaker 5: So can I just I just say one thing to
• 1:37:31
  Speaker 5: add to this, And I think Evan just perfectly gave
• 1:37:34
  Speaker 5: you a million examples of guys that didn't fit the
• 1:37:37
  Speaker 5: bolts that would. But I know that it sounds silly
• 1:37:40
  Speaker 5: on the surface, like, well, his arms are thirty two
• 1:37:43
  Speaker 5: out of thirty one and then whatever, But it's not
• 1:37:46
  Speaker 5: all that different as to like why a wide receiver
• 1:37:50
  Speaker 5: might be a candidate if he runs a four to
• 1:37:52
  Speaker 5: three forty as opposed to a full four to forty. Now,
• 1:37:55
  Speaker 5: like one is fast and one is not, you know,
• 1:37:58
  Speaker 5: and that can be the difffference between being elite and
• 1:38:01
  Speaker 5: just being okay. And it's the same thing for a tackle.
• 1:38:06
  Speaker 5: And again, there were plenty of wide receivers who ended
• 1:38:10
  Speaker 5: up being great that didn't run explosive speeds. Larry Fitzgerald
• 1:38:13
  Speaker 5: was never considered one of the fastest. Play Jerry recele
• 1:38:16
  Speaker 5: Jerry Rice, you know, was not considered one of the
• 1:38:18
  Speaker 5: fast So you can succeed anyway. But it's the same thing.
• 1:38:23
  Speaker 5: It sounds silly, like the length of his arm, but
• 1:38:28
  Speaker 5: it matters. It does matter. It's a reason why it's
• 1:38:31
  Speaker 5: always been considered like that.
• 1:38:33
  Speaker 4: It's interesting, I think, because it's almost like you have
• 1:38:38
  Speaker 4: to have the kahones to play a guy with shorter
• 1:38:41
  Speaker 4: arms at tackle, because so many teams just moved them
• 1:38:44
  Speaker 4: automatically inside, Like Peter Skoronsky was a All Conference offensive
• 1:38:49
  Speaker 4: tackle left tackle at Northwestern for multiple years and automatically
• 1:38:54
  Speaker 4: just got moved inside because his arms are below thirty
• 1:38:57
  Speaker 4: three inches yeah, by the Titans. And so all it
• 1:39:03
  Speaker 4: could take is that one team has the gumption to say, nope,
• 1:39:08
  Speaker 4: we think this thirty two inch guy can play tackle,
• 1:39:10
  Speaker 4: and then all of a sudden the threshold changes again,
• 1:39:13
  Speaker 4: you know. So it all depends on your preference.
• 1:39:16
  Speaker 2: Does Marcus Allen ever get old?
• 1:39:19
  Speaker 5: So it's funny. I'm watching on TV my show is
• 1:39:22
  Speaker 5: Marcus Allen is on, and people just keep coming up
• 1:39:24
  Speaker 5: to him in the middle of the show, interrupted the
• 1:39:27
  Speaker 5: mayor and you know, former teammates and whatnot, and they're
• 1:39:30
  Speaker 5: just like, in the middle of the show. I can
• 1:39:32
  Speaker 5: only gague what it sounds like.
• 1:39:34
  Speaker 6: I was going to say a thing to watch two
• 1:39:35
  Speaker 6: with the arm link a little bit. Is Joe Toney
• 1:39:37
  Speaker 6: playing left tackle in this game? And how does he
• 1:39:40
  Speaker 6: do against the Josh Swtz of the world. And I
• 1:39:42
  Speaker 6: think you might see some of that some of why
• 1:39:44
  Speaker 6: length is important at that position.
• 1:39:47
  Speaker 2: Tony says, this is going to be a tough game.
• 1:39:49
  Speaker 2: Hate the Eagles for beating us, hate the Chiefs for
• 1:39:52
  Speaker 2: being good. Plus I've hated Kelsey ever since the playoff
• 1:39:54
  Speaker 2: game in New England where he mocked Brady doing his
• 1:39:57
  Speaker 2: let go, let's go pregame. Saquan is the only person
• 1:40:01
  Speaker 2: I can cheer for, So I guess I'm picking the
• 1:40:03
  Speaker 2: Eagles ten six sugfest because it's what the NFL deserves
• 1:40:07
  Speaker 2: for giving us a rematch. Do any of you have
• 1:40:09
  Speaker 2: any personal grievances with players or coaches in this game?
• 1:40:14
  Speaker 6: Personal grievances, but players are coaches.
• 1:40:16
  Speaker 2: No, I don't know. I don't know.
• 1:40:18
  Speaker 6: I don't really and I know exactly what he was
• 1:40:20
  Speaker 6: talking about with with Kelsey, But I think those guys
• 1:40:23
  Speaker 6: are just so good. I'm like beyond the fandom of
• 1:40:26
  Speaker 6: like they were taunting us, like you know, like I
• 1:40:29
  Speaker 6: just at a certain point you just have to accept
• 1:40:30
  Speaker 6: how good these guys are. And how consistent they've been.
• 1:40:34
  Speaker 6: But I really, I mean, I'm really I really like
• 1:40:36
  Speaker 6: Philly's defense. I really like watching those guys. I mean,
• 1:40:38
  Speaker 6: Jalen Carter, there aren't a lot of defensive linemen in
• 1:40:40
  Speaker 6: the league that are actually fun to watch, and he's won.
• 1:40:43
  Speaker 6: Chris Jones is one like to see that.
• 1:40:45
  Speaker 5: I mean, I definitely have those kinds of grudges, though
• 1:40:47
  Speaker 5: I don't know necessarily on these two teams. I don't
• 1:40:50
  Speaker 5: like Travis Kelcey. I don't like the personality I have
• 1:40:53
  Speaker 5: a problem with. He's kind of a bore to.
• 1:40:54
  Speaker 8: Yeah, he's kind of a tool a little bit, but
• 1:40:56
  Speaker 8: also like I don't not enough that I would hate him.
• 1:40:58
  Speaker 5: Yeah, and it has nothing at all to do with
• 1:41:01
  Speaker 5: Taylor Sweat before. I think he's just that typical bro
• 1:41:05
  Speaker 5: that I just kind of don't like.
• 1:41:06
  Speaker 8: But he's a guy that if he was on your team,
• 1:41:08
  Speaker 8: you'd probably like love him.
• 1:41:09
  Speaker 5: Well, he's a great player, so yeah, yeah, but the personality,
• 1:41:12
  Speaker 5: like Baker Mayfield, I've always disliked Baker Mayfield. I think
• 1:41:15
  Speaker 5: he has great personality. Like the commercials and stuff. Because
• 1:41:21
  Speaker 5: this is how it starts, This is how this all started,
• 1:41:24
  Speaker 5: You guys, don't know all You guys don't know all
• 1:41:25
  Speaker 5: the history. That's why we had to let Baker.
• 1:41:30
  Speaker 2: Bake h Dana, Virginia and Michigan. The NFL finally got
• 1:41:35
  Speaker 2: something right. It was announced yesterday the NFL will be
• 1:41:38
  Speaker 2: playing a regular game in Australia. The city they have
• 1:41:41
  Speaker 2: chosen for this game is my hometown of Melbourne. The
• 1:41:44
  Speaker 2: NFL picked the right city to host the game. It
• 1:41:46
  Speaker 2: is the most sports mad city in Australia and it's
• 1:41:49
  Speaker 2: the best place for sports in a country where sports
• 1:41:52
  Speaker 2: are prominent in our identity and culture. Also, Melbourne is
• 1:41:56
  Speaker 2: like Australia's Boston for a number of reasons. Bad traffic,
• 1:42:00
  Speaker 2: like another.
• 1:42:03
  Speaker 5: Funny Australian accents.
• 1:42:05
  Speaker 6: They're gonna have all like the stereotypes of the game,
• 1:42:07
  Speaker 6: like the guy playing Digi Redo, like with the national
• 1:42:09
  Speaker 6: anthems or something.
• 1:42:11
  Speaker 8: He's right though. I went to college with a kid
• 1:42:13
  Speaker 8: who studied abroad for a semester at U mass He
• 1:42:16
  Speaker 8: came to you, mass only because it was in Massachusetts
• 1:42:19
  Speaker 8: and close to the Patriots and he could go to
• 1:42:21
  Speaker 8: Patriots games.
• 1:42:22
  Speaker 2: But like of all the places in the world to visit,
• 1:42:25
  Speaker 2: like Australia is not even on my list.
• 1:42:27
  Speaker 5: Really, it's just if it wasn't.
• 1:42:30
  Speaker 8: So far, there's nothing Australia and New Zealand are in
• 1:42:32
  Speaker 8: my other than being.
• 1:42:34
  Speaker 2: In another hemisphere. Like there's nothing like historical about it.
• 1:42:38
  Speaker 2: True animals have animals.
• 1:42:42
  Speaker 6: Yeah, well I don't know that that likely.
• 1:42:47
  Speaker 2: So he got in Europe for Asia and like there's
• 1:42:50
  Speaker 2: there's like a different culture and a different history and
• 1:42:53
  Speaker 2: things to look at that And I don't know what's
• 1:42:55
  Speaker 2: different about Australia to America.
• 1:42:58
  Speaker 6: And you're gonna get some emails here in the second fil.
• 1:43:00
  Speaker 2: It's like US even shaped the same, except it's upside down. Really,
• 1:43:06
  Speaker 2: it's like us.
• 1:43:08
  Speaker 6: It's just for me overwhelming thinking about the flight. That's
• 1:43:11
  Speaker 6: me and that's the killer.
• 1:43:13
  Speaker 5: Yeah, twenty four hours on a plane.
• 1:43:15
  Speaker 6: I don't even like flying to California and it's like six.
• 1:43:17
  Speaker 4: And that's all I'm thinking about. In the amount of
• 1:43:20
  Speaker 4: time that you're gonna have to.
• 1:43:21
  Speaker 6: Go, we get over ten we get over ten hours.
• 1:43:23
  Speaker 6: I think I'm out.
• 1:43:24
  Speaker 8: I would break it up. It would have to be
• 1:43:25
  Speaker 8: like a month long trip.
• 1:43:26
  Speaker 4: Where Hawaii first US can take a month long I.
• 1:43:31
  Speaker 8: Certainly can't sol I was thinking about doing it.
• 1:43:34
  Speaker 6: Hypothetical Look at this. Marcus Allen's now handing over to
• 1:43:37
  Speaker 6: some random lady.
• 1:43:38
  Speaker 5: I don't know exactly where with huge coke poddle glasses.
• 1:43:42
  Speaker 8: And her eye glasses are Oh my god, that's a
• 1:43:44
  Speaker 8: thick prescription.
• 1:43:46
  Speaker 2: Earlier, is that his handler?
• 1:43:49
  Speaker 4: What is going that's probably his hands?
• 1:43:51
  Speaker 8: Mad radio?
• 1:43:52
  Speaker 2: Oh, they're having technical issues.
• 1:43:54
  Speaker 5: What is going on here?
• 1:43:56
  Speaker 2: The Marcus Allen is it's bad radio. We're talking about
• 1:43:58
  Speaker 2: something people can't see. All right, let's talk about the
• 1:44:01
  Speaker 2: Super Bowl. Let's get into it.
• 1:44:03
  Speaker 5: Oh should we?
• 1:44:04
  Speaker 6: Yeah?
• 1:44:04
  Speaker 2: All right, so we've got the uh Eagles and Chiefs.
• 1:44:08
  Speaker 2: What times the game start?
• 1:44:10
  Speaker 4: Three?
• 1:44:10
  Speaker 5: Six thirty.
• 1:44:13
  Speaker 4: Twelve?
• 1:44:14
  Speaker 6: About the pregamey on the West coast? That was great.
• 1:44:18
  Speaker 5: It hasn't been that, my god, since we were kids.
• 1:44:21
  Speaker 5: We were kids, forget about. They weren't evenna twinkle on
• 1:44:26
  Speaker 5: anyone's eye.
• 1:44:27
  Speaker 2: So what happened last Well, do we already go over?
• 1:44:30
  Speaker 12: No?
• 1:44:30
  Speaker 5: We didn't.
• 1:44:31
  Speaker 6: Yeah, so.
• 1:44:33
  Speaker 5: Evan was the only one that went to and oh
• 1:44:37
  Speaker 5: with the at the championship weekend, the rest of us
• 1:44:40
  Speaker 5: were all one and one. Good job, good job, Evan.
• 1:44:44
  Speaker 2: Uh So.
• 1:44:46
  Speaker 5: With the spread, Evan and Fred went one and one.
• 1:44:51
  Speaker 5: The rest of us went on to poop emoji. So
• 1:44:56
  Speaker 5: here are the updated stats. Overall winners. Mike and Paul
• 1:45:01
  Speaker 5: are nine and three. Evan is seven and five, Fred
• 1:45:04
  Speaker 5: is five and seven, Alex is six and two. Did
• 1:45:07
  Speaker 5: not participate in Division round.
• 1:45:09
  Speaker 8: When did I? How did I not participate? I texted you.
• 1:45:12
  Speaker 5: I did not receive the answered me.
• 1:45:16
  Speaker 8: And you also a couple of weeks ago, told me
• 1:45:18
  Speaker 8: I had an incomplete. It was the week the first
• 1:45:21
  Speaker 8: week I was gone. You said I had an incomplete.
• 1:45:23
  Speaker 8: But I was on that show. It was a setup
• 1:45:25
  Speaker 8: of four. I sat on the Ottoman and we did
• 1:45:28
  Speaker 8: the College National Championship.
• 1:45:30
  Speaker 5: The only one that I missed was the division round games.
• 1:45:33
  Speaker 5: I didn't get anything on the air though.
• 1:45:35
  Speaker 8: Two weeks ago you said I had an incomplete.
• 1:45:38
  Speaker 5: I was listening, Yeah, Paul, come on, because you didn't
• 1:45:41
  Speaker 5: give us picks for the division round. Now, if you
• 1:45:43
  Speaker 5: gave them to me and I did not see them,
• 1:45:45
  Speaker 5: then my apologize. As Rob Bradford would say, on Wei,
• 1:45:48
  Speaker 5: I remember I sent you.
• 1:45:49
  Speaker 8: The picture of a volcano two and you said pretty cool.
• 1:45:53
  Speaker 6: I didn't.
• 1:45:57
  Speaker 10: I have all the.
• 1:45:58
  Speaker 8: Games listened, and then it is a picture of the volcano.
• 1:46:02
  Speaker 8: I said, look, it's a volcano eruption.
• 1:46:05
  Speaker 5: So that is the polus thing. Ever, I will cool,
• 1:46:08
  Speaker 5: I will I will add, I will add those if
• 1:46:11
  Speaker 5: I can find them anyway, you cut up. No one
• 1:46:19
  Speaker 5: likes you. Mike with the spread is leading at seven
• 1:46:23
  Speaker 5: four and one, followed by Paul at five six and one,
• 1:46:29
  Speaker 5: then Fred at four seven and one, and poopamoj Evan
• 1:46:32
  Speaker 5: at three eight and one. That serves your right from
• 1:46:33
  Speaker 5: making in front of my eyes.
• 1:46:35
  Speaker 4: Now that's your four and.
• 1:46:36
  Speaker 5: Four with ante.
• 1:46:37
  Speaker 6: Pretty cool.
• 1:46:39
  Speaker 5: It's all right, so we got we got. It was
• 1:46:46
  Speaker 5: a cool volcano like I never I.
• 1:46:49
  Speaker 6: Didn't see the rest, not wicked. Pretty cool.
• 1:46:51
  Speaker 5: So Fred, you can now.
• 1:46:54
  Speaker 2: Do what you do.
• 1:46:56
  Speaker 5: Okay, So volcano, we know that's what I saw.
• 1:47:02
  Speaker 6: I did not see this up here, however, please, so
• 1:47:08
  Speaker 6: let's see.
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  Speaker 5: They didn't cover, they didn't cover, They pushed and.
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  Speaker 6: We're working out.
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  Speaker 5: Are you Are you not aware of who's playing in
• 1:47:23
  Speaker 5: the game.
• 1:47:25
  Speaker 2: I'm waiting for you to I said, I'm all set.
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  Speaker 5: We're ready for you to introduce the game.
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  Speaker 2: All right, So the games at six thirty that's Eastern time.
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  Speaker 5: Thanks.
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  Speaker 2: It's on Fox to be, Fox Deportes and Telemundo to B.
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  Speaker 6: I'm watching on t B.
• 1:47:40
  Speaker 2: Yeah, it's the fifteen and two Chiefs against the fourteen
• 1:47:46
  Speaker 2: and three Eagles, the Eagles of the home team, that
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  Speaker 2: is correct.
• 1:47:49
  Speaker 5: Yeah, the Eagles will be wearing green U and Casey
• 1:47:54
  Speaker 5: back in white. K C by one and a half.
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  Speaker 4: That line has not moved, right, I have Casey by
• 1:48:00
  Speaker 4: one on ESPN.
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  Speaker 5: But I had DraftKings this morning said one and a
• 1:48:03
  Speaker 5: half ahead. We go by draft Draft, we go by
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  Speaker 6: Paul, thank you. So I guess I'll kick it off.
• 1:48:12
  Speaker 6: I kind of hinted out a little bit. I think
• 1:48:15
  Speaker 6: it's game with a lot of long possessions back and forth.
• 1:48:18
  Speaker 6: But I like a low scoring game. I just I
• 1:48:19
  Speaker 6: don't all these people saying like in the thirties verse thirties,
• 1:48:22
  Speaker 6: I don't. I don't see that. I think this is
• 1:48:24
  Speaker 6: a game in the mid twenties to low twenties. I'm
• 1:48:26
  Speaker 6: gonna thak Kansas City. I'll say, kind of a weird game,
• 1:48:29
  Speaker 6: like twenty seven to twenty one Kansas City.
• 1:48:35
  Speaker 8: I'm not gonna win anyway. So I'm going with my heart,
• 1:48:37
  Speaker 8: go birds. FI he goes five, Philly twenty four, Kansas
• 1:48:43
  Speaker 8: City twenty one. That's a good squad, close game.
• 1:48:48
  Speaker 4: There is a lot of things I like about Philly
• 1:48:50
  Speaker 4: in this matchup, pressure on the quarterback Saquon Barkley. But
• 1:48:54
  Speaker 4: what I can't get out of my head is that
• 1:48:56
  Speaker 4: eventually the game is going to be and Jalen hurts
• 1:48:58
  Speaker 4: his hands against Steve Spagna in the Chiefs defense, and
• 1:49:02
  Speaker 4: the Chiefs defense, just like they did to Josh Allen
• 1:49:04
  Speaker 4: makes a play late and make sure that they get
• 1:49:07
  Speaker 4: over the top. So I'm taking Kansas City twenty seven,
• 1:49:10
  Speaker 4: twenty four and a thriller classic.
• 1:49:16
  Speaker 5: I too, am gonna take Kansas City. I just think
• 1:49:19
  Speaker 5: the Eagles this is a bad cop out. If the
• 1:49:22
  Speaker 5: Eagles can somehow throw the ball the way they did
• 1:49:25
  Speaker 5: in the NFC Championship Game, I think the Eagles win.
• 1:49:27
  Speaker 5: I don't think that Hurts can do that again. So
• 1:49:30
  Speaker 5: for that reason, I'm taking Kansas City. I think they
• 1:49:32
  Speaker 5: have enough defensively to make sure that doesn't happen. And
• 1:49:36
  Speaker 5: I don't think they'll let Barkley, you know, have three
• 1:49:39
  Speaker 5: seventy yard touchdown runs. I mean, if he continues to
• 1:49:42
  Speaker 5: do that, he does, more power to him. I'm gonna
• 1:49:45
  Speaker 5: take the Chiefs, and I'm gonna say thirty one, thirty one,
• 1:49:50
  Speaker 5: twenty three.
• 1:49:52
  Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, I mean everyone's talking about the Chiefs defense
• 1:50:00
  Speaker 2: in the Eagles front line, and they should and Spagnolo
• 1:50:03
  Speaker 2: in the coaching matchup, which Andy Reid probably you know,
• 1:50:07
  Speaker 2: has the edge. But the end of the day, because
• 1:50:10
  Speaker 2: I think the defenses both are good, I think it
• 1:50:13
  Speaker 2: is lower. I think it's gonna be under the forty
• 1:50:16
  Speaker 2: eight and a half, And at the end of the day,
• 1:50:19
  Speaker 2: one team has Mahomes and the other dozen and I
• 1:50:23
  Speaker 2: like him having the ball with the chance to win
• 1:50:27
  Speaker 2: the game. I think the Chiefs win the game twenty
• 1:50:30
  Speaker 2: four to twenty three.
• 1:50:32
  Speaker 5: Oh yeah, that's not a cover.
• 1:50:34
  Speaker 2: Twenty four to twenty three. It's it's gonna be a
• 1:50:38
  Speaker 2: great game. It's gonna be a great game. But the
• 1:50:40
  Speaker 2: end of the day, it's Patrick Mahomes. After all a
• 1:50:42
  Speaker 2: sudden done, Taylor Swift and Kelsey and the coach and
• 1:50:48
  Speaker 2: all that stuff and everything else going on, Chris Jones
• 1:50:51
  Speaker 2: and the front you know, the front line for the Eagles,
• 1:50:56
  Speaker 2: it's Patrick Mahomes. Yeah, it's Patrick Mahomes.
• 1:51:00
  Speaker 5: Red talked about briefly the over under that's set at
• 1:51:03
  Speaker 5: forty eight and a half.
• 1:51:04
  Speaker 6: Forty and a half twenty seven.
• 1:51:07
  Speaker 5: So based on this year, think, yeah, you picked one,
• 1:51:12
  Speaker 5: you picked, you picked.
• 1:51:13
  Speaker 6: Forty eight, that would be under right numbers.
• 1:51:16
  Speaker 2: Do you want to go over?
• 1:51:17
  Speaker 12: No?
• 1:51:17
  Speaker 6: No, no, no, I liked under Alex.
• 1:51:20
  Speaker 5: You picked forty five, you would take the under.
• 1:51:23
  Speaker 4: I'm taking the over. Kick goes over?
• 1:51:27
  Speaker 2: Yeah, over is a good bet also because you know
• 1:51:30
  Speaker 2: when these games, typically the defenses get tired at the
• 1:51:33
  Speaker 2: end and fourth quarter they start going up field.
• 1:51:36
  Speaker 5: You were also forty seven.
• 1:51:38
  Speaker 6: Yeah, So what I's gonna say? Though, You're right, and
• 1:51:41
  Speaker 6: I just these are two really good, talented defenses.
• 1:51:43
  Speaker 2: Are they going to get tired? They know?
• 1:51:44
  Speaker 6: Like does that happen to every defense? Or could this
• 1:51:46
  Speaker 6: be a year where the defenses play well down to
• 1:51:48
  Speaker 6: the end. I don't know. I just I think there.
• 1:51:50
  Speaker 6: I just have a lot of respect for both defenses.
• 1:51:52
  Speaker 6: Some game it's hard to say, like, oh, the Eagles
• 1:51:54
  Speaker 6: are just going to roll over at the end of.
• 1:51:55
  Speaker 5: The pick it pretty high scoring you pick forty eight points.
• 1:51:59
  Speaker 4: It's also so you get into the chess match and
• 1:52:02
  Speaker 4: usually with the great offensive coaches, they kind of figure
• 1:52:05
  Speaker 4: it out by the fourth quarter of like what the
• 1:52:07
  Speaker 4: defenses are doing to them, and they have some answer,
• 1:52:10
  Speaker 4: especially guy like Andy Reid. You know, once he kind
• 1:52:12
  Speaker 4: of the game declares, they'll have some things for found you.
• 1:52:15
  Speaker 5: You know, I think the AFC Championship game, in the
• 1:52:18
  Speaker 5: game that Kansas City lost, Yeah, you know, it took
• 1:52:20
  Speaker 5: him a while to figured it out and then they couldn't.
• 1:52:22
  Speaker 9: Ye.
• 1:52:23
  Speaker 5: Yeah, okay, so that's.
• 1:52:24
  Speaker 4: The over under of a legal picks.
• 1:52:26
  Speaker 5: But yeah, Barkley rushing total one eleven and a half eleven.
• 1:52:31
  Speaker 6: And a half m. That's a good number. Ah shoot,
• 1:52:36
  Speaker 6: I'm gonna say over, but it's just it's just not enough.
• 1:52:42
  Speaker 4: Over. I'm gonna pick under. I think they're gonna go
• 1:52:49
  Speaker 4: into this game Kansas City and say we have to
• 1:52:51
  Speaker 4: get this game in the third and pass and have
• 1:52:53
  Speaker 4: to get it and Jaalen hurts his hands and we'll
• 1:52:56
  Speaker 4: load up to stop the run. So I'm gonna take
• 1:52:58
  Speaker 4: the under.
• 1:52:59
  Speaker 5: I'm gonna take the old over just because I feel
• 1:53:02
  Speaker 5: like Kansas City will make sure that the passing game
• 1:53:06
  Speaker 5: doesn't hurt them, and they'll say, go ahead, try to
• 1:53:09
  Speaker 5: do with five yards at a time. I don't think
• 1:53:10
  Speaker 5: you can, but I think you'll. I think you'll rack
• 1:53:13
  Speaker 5: up some yardage. Barkley. So I'll take the over.
• 1:53:17
  Speaker 2: I am going to take the under. I am going
• 1:53:19
  Speaker 2: to take the under part of taking the under overall.
• 1:53:24
  Speaker 5: So, okay, this is uh. I have a couple of
• 1:53:27
  Speaker 5: regular ones, but this was a little quirky one. Xavier're
• 1:53:30
  Speaker 5: Worthy rushing yards oh six and a half, six and
• 1:53:34
  Speaker 5: a half. These are official from draft things. By the way,
• 1:53:37
  Speaker 5: I didn't just make these numbers up. I didn't pull
• 1:53:38
  Speaker 5: them morell and I just put up any number I wanted.
• 1:53:41
  Speaker 2: I like it.
• 1:53:41
  Speaker 6: I'm gonna go I'm gonna go over on that one.
• 1:53:42
  Speaker 6: I think that's a good one. I think that could
• 1:53:44
  Speaker 6: be part of the plan.
• 1:53:45
  Speaker 5: Try to, you know, get outside, and basically you're asking
• 1:53:48
  Speaker 5: you they're going to hand the ball off to Xavi
• 1:53:50
  Speaker 5: you're worthy or not.
• 1:53:51
  Speaker 6: I'm going to say yes, yeah, over.
• 1:53:55
  Speaker 4: I'm gonna go over too. I think if there's one
• 1:53:57
  Speaker 4: thing you want to do against a Fangio defense is
• 1:54:00
  Speaker 4: try to use emotion and try to get outside if
• 1:54:04
  Speaker 4: you can. And so I'm gonna go over.
• 1:54:05
  Speaker 5: Yeah, me too. I think they'll they'll give the ball
• 1:54:08
  Speaker 5: to Worthy a couple of times in this game. He's
• 1:54:09
  Speaker 5: probably the most dynamic. He is the most dynamic player.
• 1:54:13
  Speaker 5: Get the ball in his hands.
• 1:54:14
  Speaker 2: I think they'll get the ball in his hands, but
• 1:54:16
  Speaker 2: not as a rushing play. So I'm gonna say under.
• 1:54:20
  Speaker 5: Okay, My next one is Travis Kelcey receiving yards sixty
• 1:54:25
  Speaker 5: one and a half.
• 1:54:27
  Speaker 6: Well, I think this might be his last game, possibly,
• 1:54:29
  Speaker 6: and I think he'll go out with a good performance.
• 1:54:32
  Speaker 6: And I'm gonna go over on the one under Taylor
• 1:54:40
  Speaker 6: Swift hater.
• 1:54:40
  Speaker 4: My god, Yeah, I'm gonna go over as well.
• 1:54:44
  Speaker 5: Fellow women, I guess I'm gonna go over as well.
• 1:54:48
  Speaker 4: I just feel like in this game of this magnitude,
• 1:54:50
  Speaker 4: Mahomes is gonna look for his most reliable guy.
• 1:54:55
  Speaker 5: I'm gonna take the under because I think that they're
• 1:54:59
  Speaker 5: good enough defense massively to make them do it a
• 1:55:01
  Speaker 5: different way. Can't do what like Houston did and just
• 1:55:04
  Speaker 5: say go ahead, keep doing it to Kelsey. You gotta
• 1:55:06
  Speaker 5: make him do something different.
• 1:55:08
  Speaker 2: I'm gonna say over. I'm gonna say over. I think
• 1:55:11
  Speaker 2: that the Eagles get aggressive up front, and I think
• 1:55:16
  Speaker 2: he's gonna slip out a few times and and get over.
• 1:55:20
  Speaker 2: What is it, sixty one and a half?
• 1:55:21
  Speaker 5: Sixty one and a half.
• 1:55:22
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm gonna say over, not by a lot.
• 1:55:24
  Speaker 5: Aj Brown, who was next up seventy and a half.
• 1:55:30
  Speaker 6: I'm gonna say under on that one. I got a
• 1:55:32
  Speaker 6: lot of respect for Trent mcduffee. I think he's sticky
• 1:55:35
  Speaker 6: and that's where i'd be putting him, so yeah, I
• 1:55:38
  Speaker 6: think I think he'll do a good job.
• 1:55:40
  Speaker 4: Also under, I'm gonna go under as well. But I
• 1:55:44
  Speaker 4: do think Adrian Brown has a big catch. But it's
• 1:55:47
  Speaker 4: like one for forty or something like that. So I'm
• 1:55:49
  Speaker 4: gonna go under.
• 1:55:50
  Speaker 5: So I'm gonna take the under.
• 1:55:51
  Speaker 2: Two.
• 1:55:52
  Speaker 5: You think it'll be McDuffie on him, not Smith.
• 1:55:54
  Speaker 4: I don't know, I think so. I agree with Mike.
• 1:55:57
  Speaker 4: I think McDuffie Brown.
• 1:56:00
  Speaker 5: Just wondering about the size.
• 1:56:01
  Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, that's fair.
• 1:56:03
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I have the under as well. I'm going to
• 1:56:05
  Speaker 5: I don't think they can throw it like they did.
• 1:56:07
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm gonna take the under on that as well.
• 1:56:10
  Speaker 5: Yep uh sorry, Patrick Mahomes Mayholmes, as Gronk calls him,
• 1:56:16
  Speaker 5: Mayholmes two and fifty one and a half yards passing fashion, No,
• 1:56:22
  Speaker 5: not rushing, Mike. You're waiting.
• 1:56:24
  Speaker 6: You're waiting for that clarification.
• 1:56:27
  Speaker 2: I could tell.
• 1:56:30
  Speaker 6: Shoot, I'll go I'll go over on this one. It's
• 1:56:31
  Speaker 6: just it's hard to bet against Mahomes, you know, being underproductive,
• 1:56:35
  Speaker 6: and I just think I'll have a good game.
• 1:56:38
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm gonna go over to.
• 1:56:41
  Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm not a big believer in the secondary. I
• 1:56:46
  Speaker 5: for the Eagles, I know that they've played, like Kunyan
• 1:56:48
  Speaker 5: Mitchell played really really well. You know, Sleigh is still
• 1:56:53
  Speaker 5: you know, a pros pro. But I'm going to take
• 1:56:57
  Speaker 5: the over. I think Mahomes will will figure secondary out.
• 1:57:00
  Speaker 2: I'm gonna take the over. Two and sixty of those
• 1:57:03
  Speaker 2: yards might come in the last possession.
• 1:57:06
  Speaker 6: That's I agree, Like, don't you just feel like that's
• 1:57:08
  Speaker 6: where it's hit.
• 1:57:09
  Speaker 5: I think pencil in another one of these shortly. But
• 1:57:11
  Speaker 5: the last one, last prop bet I have is Jalen
• 1:57:14
  Speaker 5: Hurts is passing total two twelve and a half.
• 1:57:19
  Speaker 6: That's a good number. Ah, I'm gonna say under on
• 1:57:22
  Speaker 6: that one. I think that's where the game is lost.
• 1:57:26
  Speaker 4: Under I'm gonna go over. If I'm gonna go under
• 1:57:33
  Speaker 4: on Barkley, he's got they gotta get some yards somewhere,
• 1:57:35
  Speaker 4: So I'm gonna go over.
• 1:57:39
  Speaker 5: I'm gonna take the under again. I just don't think
• 1:57:42
  Speaker 5: it's the kind of passing game I think the Chiefs
• 1:57:44
  Speaker 5: will get enough pressure on him, and I think that's
• 1:57:46
  Speaker 5: the kryptonite for Hurts. He can't really it's ironic because
• 1:57:51
  Speaker 5: he's such a great runner, but he's not good off platform.
• 1:57:53
  Speaker 2: No, well, think about that number. That's a low number
• 1:57:57
  Speaker 2: for a quarterback in the modern era. So if he
• 1:58:00
  Speaker 2: gets to thirteen and you pick the over, you win.
• 1:58:03
  Speaker 2: So I'm gonna pick the over, but not by a lot.
• 1:58:05
  Speaker 5: To thirteen is more than to twelve and a half,
• 1:58:08
  Speaker 5: I can argue.
• 1:58:09
  Speaker 2: My point is you can go over and it's still
• 1:58:12
  Speaker 2: not a great game.
• 1:58:13
  Speaker 5: Right, Yeah, that's kind of what But these numbers are established,
• 1:58:17
  Speaker 5: I know, based on performances in the past, right in
• 1:58:20
  Speaker 5: the past. The season. Yeah, I just the last thing
• 1:58:25
  Speaker 5: was just MVP, MVP my homes.
• 1:58:30
  Speaker 2: Everybody going with Mahomes.
• 1:58:32
  Speaker 8: Well, I picked the Eagles to it. I have somebody
• 1:58:34
  Speaker 8: I guess I'd go with Hurts. Okay, actually Saquon.
• 1:58:40
  Speaker 5: Okay, okay, all right, suggar ahead, friend, you're talking about
• 1:58:44
  Speaker 5: co MVP.
• 1:58:46
  Speaker 2: No, I'm going to go with Mahomes.
• 1:58:48
  Speaker 6: I just I feel like it's it has to come down,
• 1:58:51
  Speaker 6: like you think the Eagles, man, I think they might
• 1:58:53
  Speaker 6: get them. They might get them, and then it's going
• 1:58:54
  Speaker 6: to be like every minute thirty lefts and Patrick Mahoery
• 1:58:57
  Speaker 6: comes and you know it's like Brady, I mean, it's
• 1:59:00
  Speaker 6: it's what it is right now. I mean, unless I
• 1:59:01
  Speaker 6: would just say, we talked a lot about Super Bowl
• 1:59:04
  Speaker 6: fifty two, you know, like, is it that kind of
• 1:59:06
  Speaker 6: game where yes, Mahomes and Kelsey they go off, but
• 1:59:10
  Speaker 6: Philly goes off to you know, like is that a possibility?
• 1:59:14
  Speaker 4: Yeah?
• 1:59:15
  Speaker 5: So is there a missed field goal in this game?
• 1:59:18
  Speaker 6: That's a good one.
• 1:59:19
  Speaker 4: No, I'm gonna say yes, usually there's a myst kick.
• 1:59:23
  Speaker 5: The Eagles have been shaky kicking ones all year. Yeah,
• 1:59:28
  Speaker 5: I say no, how about a defensive score?
• 1:59:32
  Speaker 4: There wasn't the last one right?
• 1:59:33
  Speaker 5: Yeah?
• 1:59:35
  Speaker 2: You mean the matchup? Yeah, it's fumbled. Yeah, yeah, I'm
• 1:59:38
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