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S4 100. Best Buddy Basil – Canary Cry Radio, Welcome to 💯 · Millennial Mustard Seed

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  Hello folks. This is Princess.
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  You are listening to the Millennial Mustard Seed Podcast.
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  Thanks for listening. Don't forget to share with your
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  friends. That's tough.
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  We're in a very tough spot. I think that what we're doing
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  right now is a great benefit and virtue because it's an end
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  around between this whole corrupt informational system,
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  media system. We claim to believe in a God who
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  spoke the universe into existence and literally raised
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  himself from the dead, and yet we are not going to believe that
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  anything else exists in the spirit realm, even though his
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  word tells us that they do. Their bodies weren't permitted
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  to go to sleep like humans do, and they weren't permitted to go
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  to heaven, so they wander the earth.
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  You know, I've seen the eyes turn black to unknown tongues
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  being spoken. These giants would live way up
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  in the Highland. The young Braves, the young men
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  would hide up in the trees and wait for one of these 12 footers
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  to come walking down the path. And they would jump on them and
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  kill them, drag them back to the village and the village would
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  feast on the body freedom. Then people start to get
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  weapons, they start to get armor, they start to build
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  cities, they start to fortify their cities.
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  Now God looks down and there's violence everywhere.
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  The battle, this war that we are at, is not against each other.
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  It's against these principalities and these rulers
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  and these archons in the high places.
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  It's really worthwhile to read the Bible yourself.
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  Fear is one of the primary drivers of mind control, because
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  we have to take every thought captive and resist fear.
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  You're going to have a testimony that is a justice case against
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  the Kingdom of Darkness. Welcome back to the Millennial
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  Mustard Seed Podcast. I am your host, Rod, and thank
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  you for being here with me for another awesome episode.
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  But this isn't just any episode. This is episode 100 and it's
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  very special because I am joined by the one and only Basil
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  Rosewater from Canary Cry Radio. Many of you may know him from
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  Canary Cry News Talk. This episode is a big deal for
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  me because it was Basil and Gonz who encouraged me, strangely
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  enough in 2017, through listening to their podcast
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  Canary Cry Radio, to take a step of faith and start my own
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  podcast. And this is kind of full circle.
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  Sir Basil and I have a really cool conversation.
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  I ask him some questions. We talk a little bit of like
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  podcast shop talk. Basil shares with us advice,
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  oversight, you know, just climactical points of
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  podcasting, how it started, the content that they're covering
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  now, warning what to look out for.
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  And towards the end of the episode, he shares a
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  supernatural encounter that he had that he's never shared
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  anywhere else on air before. Gonz will be on in the near
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  future, but for right now I want you guys to enjoy episode 100
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  here on the Mustard Seed with Sir Basil And you guys don't
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  forget to leave me that five star rating and review that
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  helps the show grow in the details.
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  In the show notes. You guys want to help us in our
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  time of need? You can donate right there.
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  We appreciate you guys praying for us, all of the
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  encouragement. And for taking this journey with
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  me here on the Millennium Mustard C podcast.
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  But I won't waste any more time because we have basil here from
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  Canary Cry Radio and I'm ready to jump into this episode.
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  Are you guys ready? Let's go.
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  Hey everybody, your best buddy Basil here from Canary Cry News
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  Talk. And I want to welcome you to the
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  Millennial Mustard Seed Podcast. Basil, what is going on, man?
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  That was an epic introduction, and it is a honor to be with you
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  here on the Mustard Seed, bro. Thank you very much, Rod.
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  I'm happy to be here, man. Uniquely, you and Gonz.
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  Inspired me to take the step to start podcasting while listening
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  to you guys in 2017. Yes, I love.
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  It. I love that.
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  I love hearing that. And yeah, you know, there's a
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  lot of people out there that want to start podcasting and it
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  takes a big leap. It takes, you know, some serious
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  inspiration. You know, I don't know if you
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  being inspired by us means that, you know, we made it look easy.
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  Or something. Or like, Oh my gosh, if these
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  guys can do it, I can certainly do it.
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  So in a nutshell, what was happening is in my mind, I'm
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  wrestling through all this stuff.
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  I had a supernatural life. I have all these questions.
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  I kind of always felt like the enemy was trying to get me to
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  keep my mouth shut, if you will, you know, through like physical
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  trauma to my face all the way to, you know, having trouble
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  talking as a kid and just like all this stuff over the course
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  of my life. So I'm like in my mid 20s and.
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  I'm listening to you guys at work at the factory, and I'm
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  feeling like the burning down in the gut like this is true that
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  you know Doctor Chuck Missler at the time, I'm listening to him
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  like falling out of my chair and I'm going, nobody else is
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  talking about this like, like this is like a phenomenon to
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  find you and guns. And I'm like, OK, so here's.
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  You know, something for me to kind of cling on to and be like,
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  well, there's other voices out there and I remember wrestling
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  through like day by day as I'm kind of like listening to your
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  guys shows at that time on Canary Cry radio and then
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  finally just being like, you know what?
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  Well, I'm going to take a step of faith and I'm going to start
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  talking about what's in my mind, what I'm thinking, the puzzle
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  pieces I'm putting together and I'm going to be unashamed about
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  it. So you guys like kind of like
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  lead in that way and we're demonstrating you can do this
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  and I. You know, I was listening like
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  Sasquatch Chronicles at the time and like between just nobody
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  else, really like being bold and courageous and bringing that
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  stuff out. I'm like, man, you and Gonz were
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  like, you guys were it, man. I'm like, these guys are doing
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  it. You know what I mean?
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  I'm like, I want to. I want to do what they're doing.
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  So yeah, that that really pushed me into starting the first show.
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  That's great man. I'm very humbled to hear that.
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  Yeah, you know, it was a weird time.
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  When we started back in 2012, there was no sort of new guard
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  coming up in in that kind of space.
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  The Fringy Space and Future Quake had just done their last
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  show and that's when Gonz and I had.
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  We were Co workers for a long time and we kind of worked in
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  the same room but literally never spoke to each other.
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  Right around the time when future quake shut down, that's
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  when we kind of met and we're like oh you're weird too.
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  I'm weird too. And we were working at a mega
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  church at the at the time in the tech department and so suddenly,
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  you know we are two quiet guys working in the same department
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  who really never talked about anything to just really getting
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  into it on the company dime. In fact we got in trouble for
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  using church property to record our first podcast.
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  But yeah it's it's been very interesting since we started to
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  see the, I mean not even just in the fringy Christian space,
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  although that is a a big part of it, but just the whole world.
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  You know, we often joke Gonz and I like, oh jeez, if, you know,
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  if this is a simulation, like they're running it off of our
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  podcast, Like they're, you know, it's like all the craziest stuff
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  that we could talk about. Whether it was, you know, aliens
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  in a biblical worldview or cryptozoology or the government
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  or, you know, secret society, whatever it was, year after
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  year, it just kept coming true, just one thing after another.
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  We're like, oh, my goodness. And thankfully the, you know,
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  the next generation of people talking about this have grown up
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  and you're definitely a part of that.
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  And we're we're just stoked. We're always stoked to hear that
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  somebody was inspired to start a podcast because of us.
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  Because here's the thing, we had no idea what we were doing when
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  we started. It was a slow moving train,
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  folks. It was, you know, it took us a
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  year to get to 100 listeners. Now, of course, podcasts was
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  totally different back then. Nobody knew what it is.
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  You know, it was not the sort of cultural phenomenon that it is
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  now. So a lot of our sort of struggle
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  was just trying to teach people what a podcast is.
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  And you know, there we got to give credit to sort of the the
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  fathers of the genre. Of course there's been, you
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  know, the generation before us has been talking about stuff
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  like this for a long time. They've been doing it for a lot
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  longer than we have. But you know, they're retiring.
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  I hope they're retiring, although you can't assume that
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  with podcasters and fringe researchers and stuff, you know,
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  there's no quality retirement plan there.
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  But yeah, it's been really fun to a continue podcasting, which
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  is the hardest part about podcasting for anybody out there
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  listening. I've walked, you know, a dozen
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  people or so through starting a podcast previously.
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  I've started many myself and it is really not hard to start.
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  But what is extremely difficult is to keep going because you'll
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  go a year and not see a lot of, you know, a lot of growth.
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  You'll go two years. And I this is almost down to a
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  science. I have it here around between 40
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  and 60 episodes, and I this might not be what you wanted to
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  talk about, but just to try to inspire other people between
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  four episode 40 and episode 60, that's the danger zone.
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  That means you've been doing it for about a year and it starts
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  to feel like work. You really kind of, you know, 40
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  to 60 episodes, you can pretty much cover everything that
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  inspired you to start podcasting.
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  And somewhere between 40 and 60, you kind of look around and
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  you're like, oh gosh, I interviewed everybody who I
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  could. I talked about every topic that
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  I could. I'm a year in and I'm not like
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  seeing any growth or anything. And it really becomes a slog.
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  So I tell every person trying to get into podcasting, it's easy
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  to start, roll with it, use that momentum, but be prepared.
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  Because between episode 40 and 60, that is the danger zone
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  where most podcasts sort of drop off.
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  And I'm speaking from experience as well.
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  I have two other podcasts, Rabble and The Joy Spearcy
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  Theory, which both made it to about 60 episodes.
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  Until you know the IT just, you know, you get a year in.
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  Your schedule is different, your life is different, your it, it
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  it becomes work at that point. So have fun with it for a year.
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  After that year, consider it your purpose.
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  It must be your job. It must be your purpose.
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  And when I mean job, I mean, of course make money.
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  However, you need to make money. The chances of making money
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  podcasting are extremely slim. But you know, after 4060
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  episodes, that's when the rubber meets the road and you gotta dig
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  in. You gotta dig in, keep your
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  schedule, and just keep petitioning the Lord for
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  inspiration 'cause it gets rough.
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  Yeah, wow, Wise words, man. And yeah, there's a lot of new
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  podcasts that that I talk with that are right at that year
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  marker. You know, we talk kind of like
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  privately and and I've been doing this for just a few years.
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  So it's like there's kind of like, hey, is there any hope at
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  the 3rd and 4th year marker? And I'm like personally passion,
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  like you know, it's like drive. There's always hope, But you
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  know, it's really when you, and this is a good thing to learn in
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  life in general, which is, you know, external gratification can
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  only get you so far. But then after that, around
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  episode 40, you have to start going into some internal
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  motivation. You you have to remember why
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  you're doing it. You need to, you know, set goals
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  and work towards those goals. And it really does.
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  It turns into really just like anything in the world, you know,
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  you gotta have that internal motivation and my goodness, just
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  pray that the Lord keeps you inspired 'cause that's the
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  biggest part of it. Very interesting.
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  Well I mean for you, you've you guys are O GS in the podcast
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  game like you and Gonz have been doing this.
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  Like I think you guys were like the second podcast I really ever
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  listened to. It was like sounds about
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  Chronicles and then you guys. And then once, you know, like
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  I'm like Christian weird, I'm like I'm hooked.
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  Like I I just, I'm in. So give us some like a 30,000
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  foot view of what things have looked like, you know, since you
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  turned to Canary Cry news talk. I know that started around the
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  2020 marker. Just give us like a real quick
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  brief overview of that. And because that was birthed out
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  of Canary Cry radio, Yes. And it actually started a little
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  bit sooner. It's funny because 20 is when we
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  sort of blew up in the way that we have.
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  But again, another testament to the requirement that you just
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  stick with it. So we started Canary Cry Radio
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  in 2012 and we did that for about four years and we kind of
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  became very inconsistent. I we are still making great
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  content, but you know, life changes a lot after four years.
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  The consistency had gone down, some stuff like that and we
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  really started kinnary crying news talk simply as a practice
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  inconsistency. We said what can we do to
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  guarantee that we can do something long lasting.
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  We can do it consistently. It won't burn us out.
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  It won't take away from what we already got going on in life.
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  It really started as sort of a, you know, a self improvement
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  project. And so you know, we started News
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  talk in 2016 and it was a 29 minute show once a week.
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  And again we kind of made these rules because of course once you
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  get podcasting, you know, the app, the the episode starts
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  reaching out to like three and four hours if you're not
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  careful. You know, if you're not careful
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  you can really let it kind of take too much time.
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  So we very specifically said, OK, we're going to do it.
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  The one goal is to keep doing it every week.
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  So we did a 29 minute episode, once a week, no more, no less.
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  And we did that from 2016 to 2020, just every week.
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  And we were surprising ourselves.
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  We're like, Oh my gosh, look at us go, man.
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  By that time, you know, we were basically had reached the same
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  amount of time that we had been doing Canary Cry radio before we
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  started. And we're like, OK, we did it.
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  And keeping it short, like that was great because we weren't
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  taking up people, too much of people's time.
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  We weren't taking too much of our time.
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  It was a practice and editing a practice and making things
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  shorter. And that was really sort of a
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  revolution for us. Now somebody out there may be
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  hearing me ramble on and say it doesn't seem like you learned
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  the lesson to keep things short, but that's what it really was
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  about. And with that, you know, trying
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  to pack as much production quality and as much quality
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  content. And for us, you know, we're we
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  just are not gonna do something if we're not having fun.
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  We're that's just our temperament.
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  Like if something isn't fun anymore, it just kind of loses
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  our interest. So since we're making these 29
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  minute episodes, we put a lot of jingles and work into keeping
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  the pace, covering stories that we thought were important and
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  building upon sort of the Canary cry radio world view that we had
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  laid down for about four years. And you know, it's a little bit
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  cheating because we did carry over a percentage of our Canary
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  Cry radio listeners to Canary Cry news talk.
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  So we got a little bit of a boost, which not a lot of people
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  get. And I recognize that that is a a
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  big part of what can make a podcast work is you know having
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  a built in audience. So we did that.
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  We did it for four years. We're like this is incredible,
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  we've never done anything this consistently And then boom,
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  COVID hit and you know I had always, I had always had another
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  job. I, you know, I was always
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  working. We were not sort of
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  professionally podcasting wasn't paying the bills the whole time.
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  I mean, thankfully we had some really generous listeners who
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  want wanted to help out and that built very slowly, but it was,
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  it was not enough to live off of.
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  But then COVID hit and all my other job prospects disappeared.
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  There was nothing I could do, you know, instantly sort of
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  money problems. And so guns.
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  And I said, hey, you know what, We've done this show this long.
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  Let's just see what else we can do.
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  Let's keep it rolling. We are very inspired by a show
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  called No Agenda with Adam Curry and John C Dvorak is a big
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  career professional highlight of mine.
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  To get Adam Curry on Kinnar Crying News Talk a couple
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  episodes ago is huge, kind of a fun full circle thing.
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  So that in the sort of storyline of our podcasting career is very
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  cool. But Long story short, we
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  basically lifted their model and you know, we're not, you know,
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  somebody has criticism of that. That's fine.
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  We have no shame that, you know, we had a show, it was working
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  COVID hit, we had no money and we switched over to the value
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  for value model, switched over to, I mean, man, early COVID,
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  some of those episodes were regularly going 4 hours three
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  times a week. We go from once a week, a 129
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  minute episode, once a week to 3/4 hour episodes a week.
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  I mean, that gives you kind of the idea of what those early
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  days of lockdowns, you know, the kind of time we had on our hands
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  and really somehow by the grace of God.
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  And by the foundation that we laid with our practice and
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  consistency beforehand, somehow we have pretty much been able to
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  do 3 episodes a week, hopefully not a full full 4 hours without
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  fail. And you know, we have failed a
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  couple times, but we're still doing it, we're still doing it,
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  and it's still working. And man, am I just like, I don't
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  know. I don't have the words to truly
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  express how absolutely blown away I am.
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  I mean, I tell people all the time in in my life, online,
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  whatever. I literally think that I am the
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  luckiest human alive. I mean, I take stock of the
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  blessings that God's given me and given guns and everything.
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  And like, I don't know, man, I would pretty much put up the
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  blessings God has given me up against anybody who thinks
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  they're the luckiest person alive, whether that's true or
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  not, you know, whatever. But it feels nice to live in
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  that space of gratitude, because, you know, I can barely
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  believe it. And the only thing we can do is
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  just keep going. Perspective is everything, man,
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  and it's so fascinating to like, Come to hear.
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  You know, just like where your heart's at with it after all
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  this time, You know, to like all these years of like hearing your
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  voice. Like I remember being in the
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  factory and just like it's like grueling.
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  And like when COVID hit for me, it was like I was an essential
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  worker. So like, we were like I was
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  working mandatory Fridays on 2nd shift at the time, like it was
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  crazy. And so I worked probably the
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  most through 2020 and like the rest of the world, was on
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  Paul's. So there was like a lot of stuff
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  where it was like just hearing your voice all those years now
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  sitting in front of you and seeing the googly eyes and like
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  getting to hear like, you know, you're hard on this.
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  And like, you know, I know for me like one of these rewards
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  that I've just kind of been seeing is like messages and like
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  audio messages from other people being like.
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  Thanks for creating this content.
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  You know, like we did some episodes with Doctor Robert
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  Rodich on like you know frequency and different
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  different. We get really fringe on the
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  mustard seed, but we also talk about just faith and just basic
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  things like miracles still happen.
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  God is still in the move. So it's a really wide spectrum.
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  But hearing people say, hey, thank you for creating that like
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  and then just being like man, I remember that felt like.
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  When I listen to you and God's like those first like, you know,
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  six months and being like there's somebody else out there
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  and like I'm like little, you know, soldiers are rising up,
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  the boldness comes forth, you know, and it's like this is
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  great. And so there I call it the
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  ripple effect. I love the ripple effect, you
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  know, and just seeing, you know, the scriptures say we plant and
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  we water seeds, the wage is good.
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  You know, we're going to get a good reward for this.
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  But God gets glory because he causes the growth.
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  And just to marvel at that and like, really, this is going to
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  be the 100th episode Basil for the Mustard Seed.
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  You know, we, we launched the first episode in the very
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  beginning of 2020. Before that, I had a total
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  failure podcast called Not of This World.
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  Don't Go, listen to it. But that was like, you know,
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  just getting my foot in the door and like building that
• 23:45
  confidence to be like, yeah, I have a voice.
• 23:46
  Oh, it hurts to hear my own voice.
• 23:48
  Like I remember, like the first time I heard my own voice, I was
• 23:50
  like was in the running row. Hide in the woods.
• 23:54
  Yeah, it's really bad. But God is doing some unique
• 23:58
  stuff. Gets better.
• 24:02
  Yeah. Well, so let me ask you a couple
• 24:04
  questions, man. You know, with everything that
• 24:08
  you guys are doing and all of the things going on in the world
• 24:11
  right now today, what would you say are some of the biggest
• 24:15
  things for the body of Christ to keep on the radar?
• 24:18
  Like stuff that's in the works? I mean, we can get his
• 24:20
  conspiracy and weird as he want. But give us like an overview,
• 24:25
  like, hey, these two or three different topics, they're hot
• 24:28
  buttons. It's continual.
• 24:30
  It's been escalating year after year.
• 24:32
  And keep your eyes on this. Like, just give us, Yeah,
• 24:35
  whatever your mind does with that.
• 24:37
  Yeah. Oh, there you go.
• 24:37
  Sorry, you froze for a second. Oh, OK, Yes.
• 24:42
  Give me a moment, 'cause, you know, we cover such a range of
• 24:50
  things and we covered things because we think they're
• 24:53
  important. And thankfully there's a lot of
• 24:57
  people doing a lot of good work right now.
• 25:00
  And you know, I came from a a charismatic background.
• 25:04
  That's my Christian tradition. So I'm very familiar and very
• 25:09
  versed in sort of the the depth of the supernatural day-to-day.
• 25:16
  And I think that's there with a lot of current events going on.
• 25:23
  I'll kind of stick with current events because of course we see
• 25:27
  end times prophecy sort of constantly in our faces, whether
• 25:35
  it's the unrest in the Middle East or CBBCSA beast system, you
• 25:41
  know, as fringy as you want to get.
• 25:43
  It's it's interesting because they're all actually very
• 25:46
  connected. So like everything I just
• 25:48
  mentioned is like those are all connected and there's a lot of
• 25:54
  really great people who are connecting the dots, staying,
• 25:58
  staying up on the events and the the connections.
• 26:03
  There's a lot of people who are just coming into the knowledge
• 26:07
  of these things. Thank the Lord you know,
• 26:11
  podcasting has created a an ecosphere of communication that
• 26:18
  I think is directly responsible for a lot of the shifts going on
• 26:24
  around the world in the minds of men.
• 26:27
  Let's go, man. Let's go.
• 26:29
  And you know, that's what was so amazing.
• 26:31
  Again, just to plug my episode with Adam Curry, the episode 165
• 26:37
  of Canary Cry news talk, I'm sorry, Canary cry radio.
• 26:41
  I think it was 688 of Canary Cry news talk.
• 26:45
  You know, he is one of the people responsible for the
• 26:50
  invention of the technology that is podcasting.
• 26:55
  Without his role in the invention of RSS feeds and
• 27:00
  podcasting, the world would look entirely different.
• 27:06
  We are in what's called a fifth generational war, 5th Gen.
• 27:12
  warfare, something that I've been, you know, kind of
• 27:15
  obsessively screaming about for a couple months now.
• 27:18
  And the long and short of it is warfare nowadays can be
• 27:23
  described literally as a war for the not for the minds of the
• 27:29
  people, but a war that is fought on the battlefield of civilian
• 27:34
  minds. OK, the biggest victories that a
• 27:39
  nation state, a corporation or an ideological faction can have
• 27:44
  in the war for the world is to win a battle in the minds of
• 27:51
  civilians around the world. And this goes much deeper.
• 27:55
  But the point is, we've been in a fifth generation war for quite
• 28:00
  some time. It's been happening right under
• 28:02
  our noses. And I don't mean metaphorically.
• 28:05
  This is not a metaphor that there's some sort of war in our
• 28:09
  mind. There is literally a war going
• 28:14
  on that is focused on. I mean, public opinion is the
• 28:20
  spoils of war. And when I say literally, I mean
• 28:24
  the governments around the world officially recognize that there
• 28:29
  is a war going on. 5th generation of war.
• 28:33
  And if it were not for the technology of podcasting, people
• 28:38
  like us would have no hope. We we would have almost no
• 28:43
  access to some long form, easily digestible, easily spreadable,
• 28:52
  easily created, low bar of entry sort of method to try to free
• 28:59
  our minds or at least take some independence in this fifth
• 29:04
  generation war. And of course, you know, Alex
• 29:06
  Jones has been calling it Infowars for a long time.
• 29:09
  And you know, I always kind of thought like, oh, Infowars I get
• 29:14
  is kind of clever. You know, the war is for your
• 29:16
  mind. Like OK, yeah, I get it, but and
• 29:19
  I don't know if he meant it or not, or maybe the Lord used that
• 29:23
  prophetically, but we are now recognized to be in a literal
• 29:27
  5th generation war. Now with that, there's a lot of
• 29:31
  new people coming into the knowledge of biblical prophecy,
• 29:36
  specifically end times prophecy and things are starting to
• 29:40
  unfold in the world. I will say this as a caveat.
• 29:44
  Things are starting to unfold in the world again that are tipping
• 29:48
  people off to, you know, some possible fulfillment of
• 29:52
  prophecy. And with that, there is a bit of
• 29:56
  a danger because when you do go off the beaten path, whether
• 30:03
  that's spiritually, whether that's, you know,
• 30:06
  intellectually, whatever it is, when you go off the beaten path,
• 30:11
  it's a dangerous place to be. And this can manifest in
• 30:15
  people's, in people's lives in in a couple different ways.
• 30:19
  I mean, one of them. We've all seen it that people
• 30:24
  who were always sort of free thinkers, who are always sort
• 30:28
  of, I don't know, intelligent and inspiring.
• 30:34
  You know, a lot of great people, whether they're podcasters or
• 30:37
  not, they can get so wrapped up in the identification of things
• 30:46
  like the beast system, the Mark of the Beast, the Red heifer,
• 30:49
  you know, all these things. It can become so all consuming
• 30:55
  that it's has a potential to actually take away from what a
• 31:02
  lot of what God's doing in their life.
• 31:06
  You know, we are here to. I don't know if you're muted or
• 31:10
  not, but I did see you go wow. Yeah, yeah.
• 31:15
  I mute myself because I I comment like I'm like, oh, and
• 31:20
  people message me and say please mute yourself.
• 31:22
  While they're talking, their name is like oh, but no, that
• 31:25
  was that was a huge bomb you just dropped there.
• 31:27
  Like that is a really big thing that we need to pay attention to
• 31:31
  not getting called up. I'm speaking from experience
• 31:34
  like I don't. I'm not trying to like what I'm
• 31:38
  not doing is trying to be like, oh, look at all these people
• 31:41
  looking at end times prophecy now.
• 31:42
  Well, that's not even cool anymore.
• 31:44
  I mean, chill out. That's not what I'm doing.
• 31:46
  What I'm saying is I've been doing this almost every day for
• 31:52
  going on 11 years now, going on 12 years almost.
• 31:58
  And I have been through every cycle of life while sort of
• 32:06
  wrestling with this end times prophecy stuff.
• 32:09
  And I I can now look back. It's been a long, a long enough
• 32:13
  span of time that there were times when I was so absolutely
• 32:18
  obsessed. And I do.
• 32:20
  I will call it obsessed. Because there's a point where
• 32:21
  you get obsessed, where other parts of your spiritual life
• 32:27
  start to hurt. I mean much less, much less.
• 32:30
  Your family life, your social life, your church life,
• 32:33
  whatever. But there isn't.
• 32:35
  There is a time when your spiritual life can really
• 32:39
  suffer. You find suddenly that you don't
• 32:43
  have peace where you're thinking 24/7 instead of meditating and
• 32:49
  praying on the goodness of God and on the, you know the the
• 32:55
  absolute awe inspiring role of God's hand in your life
• 33:02
  personally, you can. You can lose track of that by
• 33:07
  focusing on the sort of mega structure that is end times
• 33:12
  prophecy unfolding in front of us.
• 33:15
  And I've seen it a lot of times and I've had personal
• 33:17
  conversations with with other podcasters and researchers.
• 33:22
  And again, this is, I'm not going so far as to say, you
• 33:26
  know, to encourage people to ignore what's going on in the
• 33:31
  world. But I would say at some point, I
• 33:35
  don't know what point it is. It's it's everybody's job to
• 33:38
  identify it in their own life. But at some point, it's more
• 33:42
  important to live your day-to-day life as if Jesus is
• 33:47
  coming back tomorrow versus spending all your time and
• 33:54
  spiritual energy on trying to guess when Jesus is coming back.
• 33:59
  You know, we get so wrapped up in trying to trying to set a
• 34:04
  date, whether it's metaphorically or literally.
• 34:07
  You know, we get so wrapped up in trying to anticipate the
• 34:13
  Lord's next moves based on on, you know, the Book of Revelation
• 34:17
  where we forget to rest and every single day.
• 34:27
  And and you know, that's really where the the quality of life
• 34:35
  walking alongside Jesus comes from.
• 34:37
  So that is a big part of it. I mean, that's one big thing
• 34:41
  that I I think more than anything would would change the
• 34:45
  atmosphere in the broad spectrum of what, you know, people are
• 34:51
  learning and living through right now.
• 34:53
  I think that would change the atmosphere in an incredible way
• 34:57
  if if we start developing more of that sense, what is God doing
• 35:02
  right now in this exact moment in my life?
• 35:05
  Not what he's doing in Israel on a global scale or with secret
• 35:11
  societies or whatever. So that's why is robots now hear
• 35:16
  me out. This is an important one.
• 35:19
  This is an important one. OK, so don't don't don't get me
• 35:23
  wrong. We got to pay attention to these
• 35:26
  little metal guys because for a lot of, for a lot of reasons, I
• 35:31
  on my show, I do a it's kind of like a a funny, kind of silly,
• 35:36
  but very serious kind of mini podcast within my podcast.
• 35:42
  It's called the Flippy Update, and Flippy is our colloquial
• 35:45
  name for the disembodied robot arms that are taking our jobs,
• 35:48
  enslaving our children, and flirting with our spouses.
• 35:51
  We use talking about Flippy as a way to explore all the new fun
• 35:55
  and exciting ways that robots are taking over the world, and
• 35:58
  now there's nothing we can do about it.
• 36:01
  Welcome to the Flippy Update, everybody.
• 36:04
  And the reason why the Flippy Update is such an effective
• 36:08
  vehicle in, in my communication is robots.
• 36:15
  It's really not just about will they put us out of work.
• 36:20
  It's really not just about, hey, with robotic manufacturing we
• 36:25
  can have universal basic income and everybody can live a
• 36:29
  socialist sort of Daydream all day because the robots are
• 36:32
  taking care of us. It's not just the fact that with
• 36:37
  a lack of Labor in caregiving industries that robots, one of
• 36:44
  the the number one advancement going on in robots right now is
• 36:48
  we're caring for the elderly. And what does that mean for us
• 36:52
  as human beings and our relationship to the generations
• 36:57
  before and after us? That, you know, it's already so
• 37:00
  sad how difficult it is in America to care for, for an, you
• 37:06
  know, our elders. And I say elders not our elderly
• 37:10
  because they are elders. They, they play a very important
• 37:14
  role in our lives and in our communities.
• 37:17
  But because of the American capitalistic sort of rat race,
• 37:22
  it's become normal to put your elders in a closet and let
• 37:27
  somebody else take care of them. Now the system is built that
• 37:31
  way. The system is built to require
• 37:34
  us to separate ourselves from maybe the most important human
• 37:40
  relationship that we can have, which is our elders, the ones
• 37:44
  who passed down the knowledge and the wisdom from a life
• 37:47
  lived. And instead we are disposing of
• 37:52
  this vital resource in our personal lives.
• 37:56
  And again, listeners, you gotta tweak your brain just a second
• 38:00
  because you're a lot of you. When I, when you hear what I'm
• 38:04
  saying, you're thinking about it in economic terms, you'll say,
• 38:07
  well, I got to go to work. I can't take care of my parent.
• 38:10
  That's why I put them away and and I hear you.
• 38:13
  But part of the battle is to divest yourself from those
• 38:19
  economic terms. Stop thinking of the way that
• 38:23
  our system is set up strictly in economic terms, because it is
• 38:27
  set up in strictly economic terms.
• 38:30
  Problem is, you cannot be a human strictly on economic
• 38:38
  terms. And so what's happening with
• 38:40
  the, yeah, with the labor shortage going on with
• 38:44
  caregivers specifically, the number one threat of robots I
• 38:48
  think right now is not just that they will take care of our old
• 38:53
  people, which they are extremely close to being proficient at.
• 38:57
  It's that these robots will be used to further separate us from
• 39:04
  our most important resource. That is human experience, passed
• 39:08
  down by someone who loves us and who has our best interest in
• 39:12
  mind, 'cause I'll tell you, you think about the world in
• 39:14
  economic terms. No one has your best interests
• 39:18
  in mind. No one.
• 39:20
  Anybody. Outside of your personal
• 39:24
  connection and your entwined well-being, nobody has your best
• 39:32
  interest in mind. Not the government, not the
• 39:34
  corporations, not your mayor, not nobody.
• 39:38
  It is you and your family and the advent of robots.
• 39:44
  One of the biggest problems I see is that, sure, they might
• 39:49
  make work easier. They might make art in a faster
• 39:53
  way, they might do a lot of things.
• 39:55
  But inevitably, inevitably, and almost by necessity, their
• 40:02
  primary function is to separate us from other humans.
• 40:07
  That's the big thing. Anything that you'd get a robot
• 40:11
  involved with almost separates you from a personal connection
• 40:15
  with another person and the powers that be, be they you
• 40:18
  know, the government or whatever, or principalities and
• 40:21
  powers. They are the most powerful when
• 40:25
  we are separated from the the humans around us that we
• 40:28
  actually share our interests with.
• 40:32
  And so Robot caretakers is a big one.
• 40:36
  And and honestly, the list goes on.
• 40:38
  But, you know, it's kind of silly, it's kind of goofy to say
• 40:42
  that robots are one of the, you know, biggest threats to our
• 40:45
  humanity. Because when I say that, you're
• 40:47
  thinking, oh, they're not going to take our jobs.
• 40:50
  All the music they make is bad. All they can't write a poem as
• 40:53
  good as a human, you know, those types of things.
• 40:55
  And it's very intentional that those are the conversations
• 40:58
  going on in the mainstream media.
• 41:01
  You know, you'll see in CNN, Fox News, any news outlet, oh, the
• 41:05
  robots are taking your jobs. Experts are worried that the
• 41:09
  labor market might be affected by blah, blah, blah, blah, all
• 41:12
  economic terms. You will never, ever see a
• 41:17
  mainstream legacy news outlet have a thoughtful analysis of
• 41:23
  how these robots that are so economically advantageous, but
• 41:28
  how they are literally wedging themselves in between humans who
• 41:34
  can earnestly and authentically care for one another.
• 41:38
  And that's in every realm. I mean, don't even get me
• 41:41
  started on the the flirting with our spouses part or the
• 41:45
  enslaving our children part. That's all true in different
• 41:48
  ways, but on its very face, the the the robots are coming.
• 41:59
  They're not not coming. They are.
• 42:02
  They will be in all of our lives very soon.
• 42:07
  And you know, I get a lot of kind of eye rolls talking about
• 42:12
  how soon this is going to happen.
• 42:13
  But I'm telling you, I've been doing this for 12 years and
• 42:17
  almost everything we predicted has come true.
• 42:20
  And it's not because we're prophetic.
• 42:23
  It is because we spend all day, every day paying attention to
• 42:31
  what the the elites are communicating to us through the
• 42:35
  mainstream media and other things.
• 42:37
  And not only do we read 80 articles a week, but we spend
• 42:43
  our time analyzing it. And this is only thanks to
• 42:47
  people who support our show. So I don't want to say that like
• 42:50
  we're prophets of some kind, but what I'm saying is they are
• 42:54
  telling us outright the revelation of the method.
• 42:57
  They are telling us to our faces that these robots are here
• 43:02
  specifically to further separate us from other humans who are our
• 43:07
  only hope if we're going to make it through this next phase of
• 43:12
  civilization with anything resembling sanity.
• 43:16
  And that goes for spirituality, too, They there's a big movement
• 43:21
  in case you haven't heard, folks.
• 43:23
  Tune into the Flippy update. In case you haven't heard, there
• 43:26
  is a huge spiritual movement as it relates to robots.
• 43:33
  Just I'm going to just rattle off some things, but just know
• 43:36
  that there's deeper analysis and there's more than what I'm going
• 43:40
  to rattle off, which is in the East, they are replacing
• 43:44
  Buddhist priests with robots. They are replacing funeral
• 43:51
  workers with robots. In the West, we the pastors,
• 43:56
  sort of tongue in cheek, but some of them not so tongue in
• 44:00
  cheek, are relying on AI. Maybe not to fully write their
• 44:04
  sermon, although there are some who are doing that.
• 44:06
  But to study and search the Bible, even in the most basic
• 44:10
  sense, you have convenient robots coming in between your
• 44:16
  pastor and the pages of his paper Bible.
• 44:20
  You know the not to mention the Church of AI, not to mention the
• 44:24
  idea of a super intelligence governing our countries, which
• 44:29
  is happening right now. Go look at Estonia and the
• 44:34
  Netherlands. Both have voted many times to
• 44:37
  have their country led by AI. And so it's it's not just that
• 44:44
  robots are taking your jobs, but they are surreptitiously,
• 44:48
  slowly, but steadily driving a wedge between humans and other
• 44:54
  humans. A wedge between humans and a
• 44:56
  spiritual life, At least, you know, one that we had previously
• 45:00
  consider authentic. And Dr. Humans, we choose to be
• 45:07
  our leaders. All of these things in some
• 45:12
  aspect are being affected not just by the robots themselves,
• 45:16
  but by the propaganda, the messaging about robots.
• 45:21
  That's the that's kind of the the the secret to the Flippy
• 45:24
  update. We're not just telling you about
• 45:27
  a new robot that exists, but it's dissecting the
• 45:30
  communication, the philosophy, the propaganda and the public
• 45:35
  perception of robots that will ultimately lead to a very
• 45:40
  unhealthy humanity. So there's a fun rant for you.
• 45:45
  What you're saying is is important and you're
• 45:47
  streamlining, like from listening to your podcast, like,
• 45:51
  I understand. Like when you're saying, hey,
• 45:53
  this is just a real quick brief overview of, you know, how these
• 45:57
  bigger puzzle pieces connect together.
• 45:58
  But we could. Literally.
• 46:00
  Spend every hour of the day for the next two weeks breaking down
• 46:03
  one of those rabbit trails, proving that the elites are
• 46:07
  signalling to us, the people, what their plans are.
• 46:12
  Literally, when people are looking at their phone and they
• 46:14
  have, I don't know, five hours of screen time a day.
• 46:18
  And let's say they're in debt, or let's say they're in a bad
• 46:21
  relationship or like we can just see how even the personal usage
• 46:25
  of technology and people negating the fact that there's.
• 46:29
  I don't know a healthier way to live right in front of their
• 46:32
  faces like on an individual basis, like not even like we're
• 46:34
  not even talking big picture at this point from what I'm
• 46:36
  breaking down and it's more like, but that bleeds out and
• 46:40
  what you guys are doing or showing these big overarching
• 46:43
  ideas that just like, yeah this is going down and I love that.
• 46:48
  You know you followed up with one of the most significant
• 46:50
  things you know from my question like hey, what should really we
• 46:53
  be looking out for? How is this fitting together?
• 46:56
  You using technology because? That's one thing that separates
• 47:02
  us from past generations. It's technology.
• 47:06
  Everything that is the same under the everything else is the
• 47:08
  same under the sun. You get angry, you get happy,
• 47:10
  you work hard, you don't make enough.
• 47:12
  You made too much now, right? All the issues are there, but
• 47:15
  now technology. That's why we're such a peculiar
• 47:18
  generation. And I talk about that a lot
• 47:20
  being a millennial, you know, majority of millennials
• 47:22
  listening to the podcast. We're growing up.
• 47:25
  As soon as we start getting a couple of little hairs on our
• 47:27
  chinny chin chin, there comes the the Nextel phones.
• 47:31
  If you remember Basil used to be able to like chirp your friends
• 47:34
  and it was like a walkie-talkie phone.
• 47:37
  So like, you'd be careful what you chirp somebody because they
• 47:40
  could be sitting around like, you know a bunch of parents.
• 47:42
  It's like, Oh well hey, going to get us in trouble.
• 47:44
  But and then the iPhone, you know what is like 2007 or 2008,
• 47:49
  the the first iPhone comes out and and we just see now like I.
• 47:53
  Live outside of Philadelphia, PA Basel.
• 47:55
  If I go to the beach or if I go, like, on a vacation, like, you
• 48:00
  will literally see groups of people walking around staring at
• 48:02
  their phone. They're probably looking at a
• 48:05
  picture of the sunset on their phone while the sun is setting
• 48:10
  in Atlantic City, NJ or Wildwood or wherever they are and it's
• 48:12
  just like, OK. So yeah, that's just my way of
• 48:18
  scratching the surface and just of nodding and applaud to like
• 48:21
  what you and guns do. On Canary Cry news talk because
• 48:25
  it is important and there's definitely needs to be sound
• 48:31
  minds in the airwaves. You know, I said this with
• 48:33
  Michael Basham recently on Fringe radio.
• 48:35
  We were doing a live we had this like cool little collaboration
• 48:38
  going. And I'm saying we need more
• 48:40
  sound minds, people who are able to take their thought captives
• 48:44
  into the obedience of Christ and help us make sense of what's
• 48:47
  going on here. But I'm rambling now too much.
• 48:50
  Let me ask you another question. Right.
• 48:52
  Well, you know, if I could just real quick mention, I mean you
• 48:57
  you pointed it out perfectly and you know, it's it took me about
• 49:02
  a 20 minutes of rambling about two separate topics to get to
• 49:06
  what you said, which is, you know, for people who are either
• 49:10
  waking up to this or they're in this or whatever, they're paying
• 49:13
  attention is what it is. They're paying attention.
• 49:17
  The The biggest piece of advice that I could give to any of them
• 49:22
  is to once in a while let go of the big, overarching, big scary
• 49:32
  picture and personalize it, because it really does.
• 49:37
  What is the use of learning about all the things we're going
• 49:40
  to learn about if we can't focus it on our own lives?
• 49:46
  So no matter what you're looking into, whether it's technology,
• 49:50
  whether it's end times, prophecy, wherever, it's
• 49:52
  whatever, these are very stimulating things to learn
• 49:55
  about and to talk about, but they're useless unless you are
• 50:00
  making a practice on a daily basis of bringing that down to
• 50:07
  the individual level and living in a way that is consistent with
• 50:13
  the grand picture that you're talking about.
• 50:15
  And that's the hardest part. It's very easy to.
• 50:17
  Intellectualize and to let it take over your life and you find
• 50:21
  yourself being scared. You find yourself unhappy.
• 50:24
  You you find yourself short with people who you love.
• 50:28
  You find yourself all all these kind of nasty little, you know,
• 50:33
  death of 1000 cuts in somebody's life.
• 50:36
  It's not one big thing, but it's all these little pieces of
• 50:39
  negativity. And if we're letting our sort of
• 50:43
  intellectual exploration of these things, you know, degrade
• 50:50
  our personal independent experience of life, looking out
• 50:54
  your eyeballs around your family and your personal journey with
• 50:59
  Jesus, then there's no point. You're actually hurting yourself
• 51:02
  more than anything. And one last comment, you
• 51:05
  mentioned technology and sort of in the, you know, in the the
• 51:10
  idea of, you know, we can scream about technology all we want.
• 51:14
  But you know, bringing this down to a personal level, how do we
• 51:19
  live truly with our, with our, you know, aligning with what we
• 51:25
  think about. And for those who are watching
• 51:26
  the video or for those who have watched me in a video anytime in
• 51:30
  the last three years, you'll see that I have a very unattractive
• 51:35
  piece of headgear on and and what it is, in case somebody was
• 51:40
  wondering, I'm sure somebody was it's AVR helmet.
• 51:43
  I am currently in VR and on the outside of VR of the helmet I
• 51:49
  have two gigantic googly eyes. Now the reason for this has a
• 51:55
  couple different twists and turns.
• 51:57
  People think when they first. I mean bro, people get furious
• 52:02
  at me about wearing this. I mean, I've had wonderful
• 52:07
  little old church ladies question my salvation because I
• 52:13
  wear this VR headset on video and you know, I've heard they're
• 52:17
  all I'm I'm sorry if anybody has given me.
• 52:20
  If you're listening and you've given me this criticism, I'm
• 52:22
  sorry for what I'm about to say. But it's very unoriginal.
• 52:26
  What it really is, is they are uncomfortable with what they're
• 52:30
  seeing. And what they're seeing is
• 52:34
  someone who is giving the appearance of having given
• 52:39
  themselves over to sort of the technocracy, to the
• 52:42
  technocratic, you know, utopian vision of of the elites.
• 52:47
  And that's on purpose. It started in 2012.
• 52:51
  In 2012, we started podcasting, and for a couple different
• 52:55
  reasons, you know, I chose a name that is not my legal name.
• 53:02
  Believe it or not folks, Basil is not my birth name and it was
• 53:08
  because 2012 and it's hard for people to go back to 2012.
• 53:12
  Let me tell you about 20/12/2012.
• 53:15
  Nobody knew that they were being spied on on the Internet.
• 53:22
  It seems so obvious now, and it's a daily conversation on
• 53:25
  every piece of media about how everything you do on the
• 53:28
  Internet is catalogued into creating some sort of digital
• 53:31
  clone of you. And then it's used against your
• 53:33
  best interest to make you a more profitable and economically
• 53:37
  viable legal entity within our economic system.
• 53:41
  We all know that now. But in 2012, when you would tell
• 53:45
  somebody like, hey, you know, Facebook is looking at all your
• 53:50
  messages or Facebook, I mean, that's one thing nobody would
• 53:54
  believe. Try to tell them Facebook is
• 53:57
  actually tracking every single click that you do on the
• 54:02
  Internet. Nothing.
• 54:03
  You do a secret and that's when people.
• 54:06
  It seems so quaint now, but that's when people would call
• 54:10
  you a conspiracy theorist and roll their eyes and be like, oh,
• 54:13
  that's Basil, you know, he's one of those tinfoil Hatters.
• 54:17
  That's what 2012 was like. And so I personally, being
• 54:22
  somebody who is a little bit too wrapped up in the paranoia of
• 54:26
  Internet privacy, chose to, you know, try my best to stay sort
• 54:33
  of anonymous or pseudo anonymous or whatever on the Internet.
• 54:38
  And that's just, that's in my entire, that's in my private
• 54:41
  life even, you know. And so that worked all the way
• 54:47
  up until 2012 when we were sort of required by the market to
• 54:51
  start video streaming our podcast.
• 54:55
  And so we needed a solution for me to be on video, and I was
• 55:01
  uncomfortable with my face being out there for anybody to.
• 55:06
  And again, 2020. I'm saying like no.
• 55:10
  People will be able to copy your face and then through deepfake
• 55:13
  technology they'll be able to recreate you and blah blah blah.
• 55:17
  And even in 2020 that was like the 2012 version of Facebook is
• 55:22
  spying on you. People are like, yeah, OK, what
• 55:25
  a like, maybe someday they can do that, you know?
• 55:29
  Time has moved very fast and so is technology, so it's hard to
• 55:32
  remember a time before all these things were so prevalent.
• 55:36
  And so my solution to being on video as an attempted anonymous
• 55:41
  or pseudo anonymous podcaster was to put on AVR headset to
• 55:48
  cover the top half of my face. People found that very off
• 55:52
  putting because it's just a black box on my head.
• 55:57
  So I said hey, OK, I'll do an art project and it really became
• 56:01
  an art project. They say I'm going to put some
• 56:03
  googly eyes on the front. There you go, you can see my
• 56:06
  eyes. And for me sort of personally,
• 56:09
  I'm like wow, this is a brilliant art project.
• 56:13
  I'm making a commentary about the technocratic future and how,
• 56:19
  you know we're all gonna be in VR and digital someday, and the
• 56:24
  only eyes that people can look into is our manufactured eyes on
• 56:29
  the outside of the screen, attached to our face.
• 56:32
  Oh, I had such artsy fartsy like thoughts about it, and I still
• 56:37
  do. I think you.
• 56:38
  Know. Well, let me ask you this, What
• 56:39
  are you looking at right now? Like what's going on in Basil's
• 56:43
  world? Because, like, I'm losing the
• 56:45
  staring contest with you. Like every time I drive.
• 56:48
  Always. But what do you see?
• 56:51
  And that's perfect. That brings me to the the sort
• 56:53
  of point of all this which is so within my VR headset.
• 56:59
  Here I am right now looking over about 100 miles of a beautiful
• 57:08
  mountain range. There's literally birds flying
• 57:12
  in the sky. I'm on some sort of mountaintop
• 57:15
  Chateau. There are, you know, very, very
• 57:18
  hip looking architecture and overlaid over that.
• 57:26
  I have one gigantic screen in front of me, which is where I
• 57:30
  have the video I'm looking at up top.
• 57:32
  I have another gigantic screen which I have the Millennial
• 57:36
  Mustard Seed Apple podcast pulled up there.
• 57:39
  I've got my soundboard over here.
• 57:43
  I've got my recording software down on the left.
• 57:46
  I usually have my live streaming chats over here, so I have the
• 57:51
  equivalent of 123-4567 eight computer monitors of any size
• 57:58
  that I would like to choose. And behind that is a majestic
• 58:02
  mountain range and birds flying. And I had to turn off the
• 58:07
  butterflies because the butterflies would actually get
• 58:10
  in the way of my podcasting. And so I was to my knowledge or
• 58:17
  the knowledge of anybody else that I've asked, and I have
• 58:22
  asked many, you know, fairly high level professionals.
• 58:25
  I am the 1st and most prolific person to be creating podcasts
• 58:32
  in the metaverse. I was doing the math today
• 58:36
  actually. I have about somewhere close to
• 58:39
  2000 hours of content that I've created in this space.
• 58:44
  And again, it goes back to this idea that when someone looks at
• 58:50
  me wearing this get up, it looks ridiculous.
• 58:55
  But what they really are feeling is sometimes they feel anger.
• 59:00
  Sometimes they'll feel that I'm just some sort of clown and
• 59:04
  they, you know, won't respect what I say.
• 59:08
  Sometimes, you know, they'll they, they think it's a joke and
• 59:12
  it'll go away. And they TuneIn next episode and
• 59:14
  it's still there. You know this.
• 59:16
  It's been very interesting. Most of the time it garners
• 59:21
  disrespect because people see, I think, what they fear the most
• 59:28
  when it comes to technology and that it would be so obvious.
• 59:35
  You know, it's one thing to have a phone and be on your phone all
• 59:37
  day. It's kind of a personal thing.
• 59:40
  You know, maybe somebody would see you on your phone, but they
• 59:42
  don't know what you're doing on your phone.
• 59:44
  They don't know how long you spend.
• 59:46
  Maybe they'll see you for 60 seconds on your phone and you
• 59:49
  know it. It's sort of a very private
• 59:52
  thing, but to create 2000 hours of content on the Internet where
• 59:59
  people are forced to reckon with what they know is coming in the
• 1:00:04
  near future, Garner's some very interesting sort of responses
• 1:00:11
  and a lot of hate mail, honestly.
• 1:00:13
  And that's fine. But anyway, so there's just.
• 1:00:18
  I'm so sorry I'm doing so much rambling, but there is.
• 1:00:21
  Another commentary on sort of our technology conversation and
• 1:00:25
  to answer the question for somebody watching this video
• 1:00:27
  wondering what's on my head. It's it's epic, to be honest
• 1:00:31
  with you. And it's it's iconic now.
• 1:00:33
  And really, it does signal in so many ways, Basil, that this is
• 1:00:42
  the world that people are like, not only, like, voting for and
• 1:00:46
  lining up and signing up for oh. Yeah, but I but I heard it once
• 1:00:50
  said also that. If there's something that you
• 1:00:53
  despise in somebody else, it's probably because you struggle
• 1:00:57
  with that same thing yourself. So for the people out there, and
• 1:01:01
  and I'm not trying to drum up, you know, disrespect or
• 1:01:03
  discredit to their, you know, emotional state on how they feel
• 1:01:06
  about seeing the googly eyes just, you know, reaching through
• 1:01:09
  the screen at them. But I mean, really the idea is
• 1:01:13
  what you're doing is so many layers deep and intentional that
• 1:01:18
  most it goes over most people's heads.
• 1:01:21
  And they're just identifying with like a surface level thing
• 1:01:23
  and just, oh, let me express anger or dislike because what's
• 1:01:26
  what's the first thing I can find about this person that is
• 1:01:30
  not normal And then peg them for, for that reason to try to
• 1:01:33
  drum up anger. It's it's really foolish.
• 1:01:35
  We got to grow up a little bit and and really look at the
• 1:01:38
  layers, the depth of why, you know, really sitting like I'm
• 1:01:42
  sitting down with you now. I've never really even thought
• 1:01:44
  about it like that much. I've heard you talk about, you
• 1:01:47
  know, over the years, on and off a little bit.
• 1:01:50
  About the the VR headset, But to sit down and actually like hear
• 1:01:55
  somebody's hard out, you know, like like hey, what's really
• 1:01:57
  going on here? What does this mean for you?
• 1:01:59
  What are you signaling? That's the right way to go about
• 1:02:03
  this, you guys. And that's why I podcast that's,
• 1:02:07
  you know, one of the reasons why is like I'm not alone, like how
• 1:02:10
  can we connect, How can we go through this information
• 1:02:12
  together? And if it's really difficult,
• 1:02:16
  it's going to require more than one person thinking it over.
• 1:02:19
  You know the Bible. Like for all of the people out
• 1:02:22
  there that are Christians, hopefully you're reading your
• 1:02:25
  Bible. I know like on the mustard seed,
• 1:02:28
  like we get new people coming in obviously, right.
• 1:02:30
  And I'm always encouraging that, encouraging people read the
• 1:02:32
  Bible for yourself. You got to study to show
• 1:02:34
  yourself well approved. But ultimately, in a nutshell,
• 1:02:39
  this is a body thing. There's not one man really
• 1:02:42
  heading the show here. Like what I feel really like big
• 1:02:46
  on Basil is. Capturing what people were doing
• 1:02:50
  right and sharing that. You know, like, I've I've tried
• 1:02:54
  to base the The mustard seed on interviewing other people and
• 1:02:58
  yeah, guess what? People I disagree with.
• 1:03:00
  People that are way over here, way over there, but what are
• 1:03:03
  they doing right? Like, isn't the rest of the
• 1:03:05
  world writing books about what we're doing wrong?
• 1:03:07
  You know, God obviously didn't write a book about what David
• 1:03:11
  did wrong. He mentioned it.
• 1:03:12
  But. You know, God wrote a lot about
• 1:03:15
  David being after his own art. And so when we're peering into
• 1:03:18
  the ministries that are going on today with a lot of judgement
• 1:03:21
  going on, and I know I've spoken very big and boldly, I've been
• 1:03:25
  noted for, you know, saying some of the stuff that most people
• 1:03:28
  don't really want to say, like things that need to be said.
• 1:03:30
  But I always kind of like back up and like soften my heart on
• 1:03:34
  it and be like, well, God, how, how do we connect with this
• 1:03:36
  person or reach this person, right?
• 1:03:37
  But the idea. Basil and you guys do this in so
• 1:03:42
  many ways. It's just like reminds me of
• 1:03:44
  Mike Heiser, like going into like the Alien Conferences.
• 1:03:48
  And those people, they're actually like being more, I
• 1:03:51
  don't know, receptive to the message than the congregations
• 1:03:54
  themselves. So you guys are in this
• 1:03:56
  podcasting world and you're finding people that may have
• 1:04:01
  never been able to stumble upon that news, they may have never
• 1:04:03
  heard the perspective like that. You guys bring the table, unless
• 1:04:06
  they had arrived right at you and Gonz's door.
• 1:04:09
  And for what you guys are doing and that's why it's so important
• 1:04:12
  and that's why I'm just humbled, man.
• 1:04:16
  Like I want to fanboy for a second with you because with for
• 1:04:19
  me, you know like I have this honor and respect for you guys,
• 1:04:23
  for you and Gonz just because of the foundation that you guys
• 1:04:26
  have laid. You know, I I literally look at
• 1:04:31
  what's going on in the world. Where the information like
• 1:04:34
  where's healthy information? Where can you really dip and
• 1:04:36
  dive into and figure out how to plug some of this stuff
• 1:04:40
  together. None of us are saying we have
• 1:04:41
  all the answers. None of us are saying, oh come
• 1:04:43
  follow me, I have it all figured out.
• 1:04:45
  It goes right back to the Berean mentality.
• 1:04:47
  Studying through the word daily with the readiness of mind,
• 1:04:50
  accepting that which is true. Not being ignorant to the
• 1:04:53
  devil's devices, being aware of what's going on around us.
• 1:04:55
  So for what you guys are doing, I'm like man, even if I lived up
• 1:05:00
  to like 110th. Of influence that that you and
• 1:05:04
  Gonz have created. Like I'm content and I I often
• 1:05:09
  say on the podcast one more person.
• 1:05:11
  I was one person for you guys, dude, I was just one.
• 1:05:15
  You guys planted the seed as the seed was becoming the little
• 1:05:19
  seed. It's like you guys were watering
• 1:05:21
  it and planting it and. You know, helping me with all
• 1:05:25
  the negative voices in the world and all the people you, you
• 1:05:27
  know, pretty much saying, hey man, you're you're a nobody.
• 1:05:30
  You're not going to make it. You're just some factory worker
• 1:05:32
  outside of Philadelphia. What do you got going for?
• 1:05:33
  You had a 9th grade education, but hearing you guys talk and I
• 1:05:39
  think it was one of the interviews with LA Marzulli back
• 1:05:41
  in the day, Just your boldness. But then the humor too, like
• 1:05:45
  getting the release and being able to laugh and then being
• 1:05:48
  like, you know what? It's OK.
• 1:05:49
  Like this isn't some like, bite your nails.
• 1:05:51
  You have to hide because. Every pastor in America is going
• 1:05:55
  to, you know, they're going to come burn a cross in your front
• 1:05:57
  yard because he talked about the Nephilim or something.
• 1:05:59
  Like, seriously, you know, right.
• 1:06:03
  But some people, like, they do have that where they don't know
• 1:06:06
  how to gauge these topics. It's in the Bible.
• 1:06:08
  But the men of God that are supposed to be looking after
• 1:06:12
  them won't cover their sleep paralysis.
• 1:06:14
  They won't talk about the weird stuff that they're personally
• 1:06:17
  dealing with and then multiply that by the acceleration of
• 1:06:21
  crazy things happening since I don't know.
• 1:06:23
  My whole life, but especially in the last five years.
• 1:06:25
  And you get a lot of emotionally distraught people.
• 1:06:29
  So what you guys have done for me, I couldn't thank you enough.
• 1:06:34
  And I know there's a lot of people that would agree with
• 1:06:36
  that. And I don't say that to puff you
• 1:06:38
  guys up. I say that in the humility of
• 1:06:42
  man, We don't understand the ripple effect all the time, but
• 1:06:46
  God's good and he's causing growth.
• 1:06:48
  Clearly for you guys, the growth has been.
• 1:06:53
  Phenomenal, really. Just blazing a trail and
• 1:06:56
  charting on uncharted areas of anything else like that ever
• 1:07:00
  been done before. So I'm not going to get off the
• 1:07:03
  like the fanboy tip here and just try to get back into
• 1:07:06
  interview mode, but that's that's great.
• 1:07:07
  I mean, I really appreciate that.
• 1:07:09
  I mean, I'll tell you even from first of all, like honestly, I
• 1:07:15
  am nothing but humbled to hear that it's, it's really
• 1:07:19
  incredibly humbling because you know, it's just like anything
• 1:07:27
  else. We only have our perspective.
• 1:07:30
  And when you reach, when you start reaching a certain amount
• 1:07:34
  of people, it actually starts to, it becomes very difficult to
• 1:07:43
  nail down the idea in your mind and in your soul that really
• 1:07:51
  anybody is listening. I mean, it's, you know, we we
• 1:07:55
  try our best. Good point.
• 1:07:57
  Yeah, we we try our best not to pay attention to like numbers
• 1:08:03
  and how many downloads we get and how many viewers on this
• 1:08:06
  platform or this platform and add them all together.
• 1:08:08
  Let's see, you know, A, because it's a lot of energy that we
• 1:08:12
  could use for something else. B.
• 1:08:15
  You know, we learned long ago that whether there's a lot of
• 1:08:18
  people or a little people doesn't actually change what
• 1:08:22
  we're doing or what we want to do.
• 1:08:26
  And you know, there's sort of this also unhealthy technology
• 1:08:30
  thing where like it's just numbers, You know, it's just
• 1:08:32
  numbers on a screen and yeah, a big number good, little number
• 1:08:38
  bad. And you forget that, you know,
• 1:08:40
  each one of those numbers is an actual human person who is
• 1:08:46
  physically listening to the words that I say.
• 1:08:49
  It's sort of mind blowing. It's it's almost too much to
• 1:08:52
  really think about. And so we so we kind of avoid
• 1:08:56
  thinking about it as much as we can.
• 1:08:58
  But moments like this, and meeting guys like you who are
• 1:09:03
  stepping out and taking action, and of course the people who
• 1:09:06
  produce our show are a big you know that that makes them very
• 1:09:09
  real to us as well. But it's it's really a nice
• 1:09:14
  refresher to remember that I'm not just a weirdo sitting in my
• 1:09:22
  Home Office with AVR headset screaming into the void about
• 1:09:26
  robots and you know, red heifers and stuff like this that you
• 1:09:31
  know it it's very it's it's very interesting because doing
• 1:09:34
  Internet work or you know creating stuff on the Internet,
• 1:09:39
  on one hand you're like wow, this is amazing.
• 1:09:42
  I can reach a lot of people but at the end of the day you're
• 1:09:44
  just sitting in your room talking out loud to yourself and
• 1:09:50
  it's it's kind of has a strange juxtaposition.
• 1:09:53
  Just real quick just to let you know I got a little pop up here.
• 1:09:57
  It said an error occurred Media recorder error please contact
• 1:10:02
  support. I can refresh now but down in
• 1:10:05
  this tab it says keep this tab open.
• 1:10:07
  Stay here until your recording is done uploading so your host
• 1:10:12
  gets the full file and it has a progress bar that's at about
• 1:10:17
  38%, so I don't know if you if you're recording on your side.
• 1:10:23
  I see a 99% upload continuous upload of your high quality
• 1:10:26
  recording on Riverside. So yeah, it looks like there is
• 1:10:29
  some sort of okay. So you're probably still
• 1:10:32
  capturing my stuff. Yeah, Okay.
• 1:10:36
  Yeah. Well, yeah, You know what,
• 1:10:38
  again, it's just another reason why I feel like I'm, you know,
• 1:10:42
  the most blessed human alive right now.
• 1:10:44
  Because, you know, I probably wouldn't have it other way.
• 1:10:48
  I don't think my brain and my personality could handle it if
• 1:10:52
  at every moment, you know, I had a running tally of how many
• 1:10:57
  people were listening to my voice at any one moment.
• 1:11:00
  But it really is rewarding to get and sit and talk to people
• 1:11:04
  like you who have listened. I mean, I one of my podcasts
• 1:11:08
  that is currently on hiatus right now, it's called The Joy
• 1:11:11
  Spear Sea Theory. And actually Michael Basham I
• 1:11:13
  think was the last guest I had on that show where I just wanted
• 1:11:19
  to talk to people. It was almost like my way of
• 1:11:22
  making the listeners real to me, where, you know, I would have
• 1:11:27
  listeners on a show, I would talk to them for a couple hours,
• 1:11:31
  learn their story. They'd tell me about how, you
• 1:11:35
  know, they had a supernatural experience or how, you know,
• 1:11:38
  really just like the most incredible life stories.
• 1:11:42
  That's humbling already, just to hear what people have gone
• 1:11:45
  through to stay alive, honestly. You're not kidding.
• 1:11:51
  Yeah, and of course that podcast fell victim to the 50 episodes
• 1:11:55
  slump. But I always tell myself that
• 1:11:58
  I'll pick it back up again one of these days.
• 1:12:00
  Well, let me let me say something real quick so I don't
• 1:12:03
  lose it. That I think is going to be
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  helpful for someone else out there listening.
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  And it'll also be helpful for me just to say this, but you were
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  talking about, you know, kind of like.
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  If you're reaching all these people, but like, you know
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  you're sitting in this chair and like, you don't really like, see
• 1:12:18
  that and and when you were saying that, dude, I was just
• 1:12:21
  thinking like the Apostle Paul is like writing a letter in
• 1:12:25
  prison and he's got like contact with like, you know Timothy,
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  Like there's like nobody else around.
• 1:12:31
  But like little did he know that it would actually go out and
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  affect people. Like people all around the world
• 1:12:36
  would read that and weep and just be like and learn and.
• 1:12:40
  And not not doing a comparison side by side, I mean and argue
• 1:12:43
  about it. But the The thing is, is it's
• 1:12:47
  like the significance we don't always see in the moment.
• 1:12:52
  And I just wanted to say like I I didn't want to lose that.
• 1:12:55
  For some reason, it seemed more grandiose to my I'm at in my
• 1:12:59
  head than it probably did when it came out loud.
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  But I I mean, it's again, this is something that I'm that I'm
• 1:13:05
  constantly sort of having to deal with.
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  I mean, yeah, when it comes to mind, mostly I just ignore it
• 1:13:13
  because it's a lot to think about.
• 1:13:15
  But yeah, no, that's, I mean I think in that goes with that
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  goes for everybody doing good work.
• 1:13:24
  There's a lot of people doing not so great work, but there's
• 1:13:27
  also people doing good work. And you know, the free market
• 1:13:30
  will do what it's going to do. But it is another, it is sort of
• 1:13:36
  another practical part of reality that has just an an
• 1:13:41
  important spiritual sort of analog of it, You know, because
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  in a sense all of us as spirits doing spiritual stuff here in
• 1:13:54
  whatever realm this is we call Earth, whether no matter what
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  shape it is, you know, we are spiritual beings and we're all
• 1:14:05
  broadcasting. We're all broadcasting all the
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  time. And even in in the mean space we
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  have no idea who we're affecting and who.
• 1:14:14
  And I mean that's kind of the just as a sort of tongue in
• 1:14:18
  cheek example, you know, you get to be my age and you get pretty
• 1:14:24
  pretty solidly into your 30s. And then like meeting somebody
• 1:14:31
  you went to high school with again and you've like forgotten
• 1:14:35
  their name and you start talking about high school and they tell
• 1:14:40
  you like things that they never could have told you back then,
• 1:14:45
  like, oh, I admired you. Or oh, I hated you.
• 1:14:49
  And all these types of things. You're like, Oh my gosh, I had
• 1:14:51
  no idea any of that was going on.
• 1:14:54
  You know, it's just sort of an example of how we're all
• 1:14:58
  spiritual beings broadcasting spiritually.
• 1:15:02
  No matter where we are, we have no idea what the result of that
• 1:15:06
  can be. I've always kind of wanted to
• 1:15:08
  ask you, like, have you had a supernatural experience?
• 1:15:12
  Like what? Like, what is one of those
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  things for you that was like, whether dream or vision or seen
• 1:15:17
  something or whatever, do you have one you can share with us?
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  Oh yeah, yeah, a lot. Oh, a lot.
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  OK. I mean, my goodness.
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  Yeah. So I grew up in the charismatic
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  tradition. So, you know, I had the full
• 1:15:37
  experience. I mean, miracles and all all the
• 1:15:42
  way down to kind of the stuff that people don't understand,
• 1:15:45
  whether it's the speaking in tongues or the shaking or
• 1:15:48
  whatever, the falling out, you know, that was all a big part of
• 1:15:52
  it. I also had what I would
• 1:15:57
  described as hauntings as a kid. Like full, full, on bed, shaking
• 1:16:03
  things flying across the room. Hauntings when I was a kid.
• 1:16:07
  Shadow, I mean, even up until college.
• 1:16:09
  Shadow beings, you know, at the foot of my bed, taking naps,
• 1:16:14
  sleep paralysis entities, whispering and whispering in my
• 1:16:20
  ear. You know, all this kind of stuff
• 1:16:23
  and all of this needed to be handled spiritually at at any of
• 1:16:29
  the, you know, at any moment when when the time arose.
• 1:16:33
  And of course, you know the the Lord never failed to intervene
• 1:16:37
  or never failed to teach me my own spiritual authority, things
• 1:16:42
  like that, so I could, I could go on forever.
• 1:16:46
  But one thing then actually I have not, I don't think I've
• 1:16:49
  ever told on air. So I'll choose that one.
• 1:16:53
  If, you know, I've talked about a lot of that stuff in various
• 1:16:56
  podcasts and, you know, talked at conferences and things like
• 1:17:00
  that. But I don't think I've ever told
• 1:17:02
  this one, so I'll do this one. It's a little bit it's it's very
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  valuable to me. So I was at College in a town I
• 1:17:16
  didn't grow up in. I was in the big city.
• 1:17:18
  Is that a Christian college? So of course I was in a
• 1:17:22
  Christian community and you know, had to had to go to Chapel
• 1:17:28
  for school credit. And you know, I was very much in
• 1:17:31
  in in it, but I was having a hard time really finding a
• 1:17:36
  church body that that was doing it for me.
• 1:17:41
  I don't know, it was just a weird part of the country of the
• 1:17:43
  the normal thing wasn't working. So I picked a church that was
• 1:17:49
  about two hours away and I drove in just a totally unnecessarily
• 1:17:58
  long trip and traffic and all these things to to go to.
• 1:18:03
  I think it was like a Wednesday service or something like that.
• 1:18:07
  But you know, and it really was, it really was a big thing.
• 1:18:11
  Like, I'm a college kid, I don't have a lot of money.
• 1:18:14
  I got kind of a junkie car, doesn't have air conditioning, a
• 1:18:18
  long drive, this whole thing. But it was just kind of one of
• 1:18:22
  those times in college where you just kind of get on the road and
• 1:18:26
  you just do it because you want to go experience something else.
• 1:18:32
  And I came to this church and it was pretty similar, pretty
• 1:18:35
  similar to really any Pentecostal or charismatic
• 1:18:40
  church at the time. And I recognized all the songs
• 1:18:44
  and I even, I think I may have even recognized one of the
• 1:18:48
  speakers and whatever, but I'm there alone.
• 1:18:53
  And it goes into a worship service at the end of the
• 1:18:58
  service. And if anybody out there knows,
• 1:19:02
  if you're from the Charismatic or Pentecostal type places, I
• 1:19:06
  mean, yeah, you'll get your sermon, yeah, you'll get your
• 1:19:09
  worship. But then like the weird stuff
• 1:19:11
  starts happening and then the flags come out and the
• 1:19:15
  zambourines and it really gets fired up.
• 1:19:19
  And so it was in the moment where it was really fired up and
• 1:19:21
  I was having a having a good time.
• 1:19:23
  It was really refreshing because I found it hard to find a church
• 1:19:28
  that kind of reminded me of how I was raised.
• 1:19:31
  And suddenly the guy came out and he starts petitioning the
• 1:19:36
  Lord for miracles, as as happens in these types of things.
• 1:19:43
  And you know, he's doing it, he's sweating, he's doing, he's
• 1:19:46
  telling the telling the body what to do.
• 1:19:48
  And he starts walking us through, says, OK, put your
• 1:19:54
  finger on your body wherever you need a miracle, put your finger
• 1:19:59
  right there and we're going to go for it.
• 1:20:02
  And I had been plagued by a severe dental anomaly.
• 1:20:10
  I mean damage. I had some dental damage that
• 1:20:13
  had had attempted to be fixed by dentists, which just made it
• 1:20:17
  worse. And it was just it was really
• 1:20:19
  bad at the time. And so I, at the behest of the
• 1:20:24
  guy leading the meeting, I stuck my finger up into my mouth, into
• 1:20:29
  the back of my teeth, and I put my finger up in this hole,
• 1:20:36
  basically in my teeth. And I'm just close my eyes,
• 1:20:44
  praying, praying to the Lord, saying, you know, this is really
• 1:20:48
  this. I mean, this needs a miracle.
• 1:20:50
  Because it's not. I can't do it.
• 1:20:52
  I'm broke. The dentist has done a poor job.
• 1:20:55
  Like, Lord you, this is your thing now.
• 1:20:58
  And I have felt a there's a really intense light headedness,
• 1:21:05
  which look, you're in a charismatic panisso servers,
• 1:21:07
  you're going to get light headed at some point.
• 1:21:10
  But I get really light headed, a little woozy and then I feel
• 1:21:14
  just of a searing heat in my mouth.
• 1:21:18
  And as soon as I register the searing heat, it's like in my
• 1:21:23
  ears and in my mouth exploded with like, Pop Rocks.
• 1:21:28
  It was like something somebody had jammed a packet of Pop Rocks
• 1:21:33
  up into my into my teeth in the back of my mouth.
• 1:21:37
  And it shocked me. I'm kind of like, whoa, whoa,
• 1:21:39
  whoa. I pull my finger out and I start
• 1:21:42
  feeling that place with my tongue where once there was two
• 1:21:47
  very damaged teeth and I'm poking it with my tongue like
• 1:21:50
  this. And one of the two teeth that
• 1:21:55
  were severely damaged was completely, 100% reconstructed
• 1:22:03
  to its original, to its original form.
• 1:22:07
  And nothing like that had ever, ever happened to me.
• 1:22:11
  I mean, I'd heard about it. Maybe I was in a service where
• 1:22:14
  something happened. But you know you're you build
• 1:22:17
  your faith and you know, but but it's different than actually
• 1:22:21
  having it happen to you. And by this time I had spent 25
• 1:22:24
  years or so in the well maybe not maybe 20 years or so in in
• 1:22:29
  the in the church. And I almost didn't believe it.
• 1:22:34
  I just like I started questioning my own reality like
• 1:22:38
  wait wait OK was that tooth actually really screwed up?
• 1:22:42
  Was that was that re? What?
• 1:22:45
  What what? What did I imagine that, you
• 1:22:47
  know, I was going through this very astounded sort of, I mean
• 1:22:53
  truly astounded sort of reality shaking experience where out of
• 1:22:59
  nowhere, just a perfectly reconstructed tooth was now in
• 1:23:03
  my mouth. Are you still there?
• 1:23:07
  Yeah, OK. Your video went out.
• 1:23:09
  So yeah, it had. It was just, I was just
• 1:23:14
  confused, honestly, more than anything.
• 1:23:17
  And what was even a little bit more confusing was that the
• 1:23:22
  other tooth that was busted was still busted.
• 1:23:28
  Like didn't get healed. It was just the one.
• 1:23:32
  You're only getting 1, Basil. Yeah.
• 1:23:35
  I mean, it was, it was really at the time, a very, very serious
• 1:23:41
  sort of spiritual mystery that I was, that I was living like,
• 1:23:45
  wow, the Lord. I mean, that is full
• 1:23:49
  manifestation of healing, reconstructive, miracle in my
• 1:23:53
  mouth. I cannot believe it.
• 1:23:56
  I had the dental records to show it, but only one of them.
• 1:24:01
  What about the other one? What's going on?
• 1:24:04
  Lord and I, you know, in that same service, I'm like, Oh my
• 1:24:09
  gosh, I got there like, OK, that one worked.
• 1:24:12
  All right, let's go for the next one.
• 1:24:13
  One. More.
• 1:24:14
  One more. Let's go.
• 1:24:15
  One more Again, Lord, let's go. I stick my finger up in there
• 1:24:18
  and I'm. I'm going to petition him.
• 1:24:21
  Really laying into it this time. Just really.
• 1:24:24
  Here we go. My faith is built.
• 1:24:26
  This can happen. It happened once.
• 1:24:27
  It can happen again. It didn't happen.
• 1:24:31
  I walked out of that service with one fully heeled,
• 1:24:37
  reconstructed, miraculous tooth. Full bone.
• 1:24:41
  You know, it's not like it was filled with gold or whatever,
• 1:24:44
  but the other tooth was still crummy and that just really, it
• 1:24:53
  was simultaneously the most incredible connection with the
• 1:25:01
  miraculous that I had personally ever witnessed.
• 1:25:04
  I mean, I've been around miracles, other miracles that
• 1:25:07
  happened to me, but like a full reconstruction of your own body
• 1:25:10
  right in front of your face and you can feel it and it changes
• 1:25:14
  your life. Honestly, just even having that
• 1:25:16
  one tooth fixed, like, changed my life to A to a degree, not
• 1:25:20
  just spiritually but physically, like I could actually chew with
• 1:25:23
  it and you know, an instant upgrade in in sort of quality of
• 1:25:28
  life. But the other one was still
• 1:25:30
  busted. And, you know, I think I spent,
• 1:25:33
  I think I went back to that church, you know, at least a
• 1:25:36
  half a dozen times to try to get this, this other tooth healed.
• 1:25:41
  And I talked, I think I went up, I talked to the pastor, I was
• 1:25:44
  talking to the team, the prayer team, whatever.
• 1:25:47
  And I was telling the story. And everybody's faith was
• 1:25:50
  building. And they were all also kind of
• 1:25:52
  confused about why the second tooth and the second tooth never
• 1:25:57
  miraculously got healed. But it did.
• 1:26:01
  This experience not only built my faith, not only became an
• 1:26:06
  incredible story to tell and a testimony not only all those
• 1:26:10
  things, but it also made it cheaper to go to the dentist to
• 1:26:15
  get the one tooth fixed by a dentist.
• 1:26:21
  And so it's this, like a lot of things I find in my life.
• 1:26:25
  It's this hilarious. I mean, we all know God's got a
• 1:26:31
  sense of humor and my goodness. He created it.
• 1:26:34
  He's really funny, man. He is hilarious because it was
• 1:26:38
  this simultaneous experience where I mean, I the the touch of
• 1:26:45
  the Lord created a creative miracle, created the tooth back
• 1:26:50
  in my mouth, but not the other one.
• 1:26:53
  So I was, I was in this funny place where I was like
• 1:26:58
  Incredible Miracle, go to the dentist, Incredible Miracle get
• 1:27:06
  the dentist to do the job, that he's just a guy who went to
• 1:27:12
  school and it makes his living just poking people's teeth,
• 1:27:18
  scaring kids, creeping people out.
• 1:27:22
  But he's a dentist, and if you need a dentist, he's a guy who
• 1:27:27
  can do it for you. So I now have right next to each
• 1:27:31
  other and I think it's just an illustration that the Lord has
• 1:27:34
  given me that is still a mystery to me.
• 1:27:37
  I'm not gonna say I have this figured out, but like, it is a
• 1:27:40
  lovely touch point that I have in my mouth at any time where
• 1:27:48
  the the the conflict between the Lord bending reality for our
• 1:27:58
  benefit and just doing what needs to be done.
• 1:28:04
  Just going to the dentist and these two teeth sit right next
• 1:28:08
  to each other. The one the Lord healed, full
• 1:28:11
  natural tooth strong. Beautiful.
• 1:28:14
  The one next to it, I had to get a root canal.
• 1:28:17
  It's a crown, you know. It's a fake tooth, but it does
• 1:28:20
  the job, you know. And they're just with they.
• 1:28:24
  They're with me forever. And it just constantly confounds
• 1:28:30
  me whenever I think I sort of understand what the Lord wants
• 1:28:36
  me to do or what the Lord's plan is.
• 1:28:39
  It's really this beautiful mixture right in my life, right
• 1:28:42
  in my mouth, of like the Lord's creative miracles bringing
• 1:28:47
  heaven to earth and dealing with it the regular way, 'cause
• 1:28:54
  sometimes the Lord will touch your life and change you
• 1:28:59
  forever, and then the tooth right next door.
• 1:29:03
  Sometimes you just gotta go to the dentist.
• 1:29:07
  So I don't know if this will help anybody, but it really it
• 1:29:12
  might be the most profound spiritual experience I've ever
• 1:29:15
  had. Not just because of the miracle.
• 1:29:17
  The miracle itself is incredible.
• 1:29:19
  But this message that is in my mouth at all times, where
• 1:29:26
  sometimes the Lord intervenes, sometimes you just go to the
• 1:29:31
  dentist and you know that's life.
• 1:29:34
  That's the mystery of being a supernatural person.
• 1:29:38
  You know, you, you have the the most incredible, miraculous life
• 1:29:42
  experiences. Your faith is growing as you
• 1:29:46
  feel like some sort of spiritual superhero.
• 1:29:49
  And then the next day, where are you?
• 1:29:52
  Lord, what's going on? Do it again.
• 1:29:57
  Do the thing again. God.
• 1:29:59
  I mean, thanks for the first one, but can you do it again?
• 1:30:05
  He's like, no, go to the dentist.
• 1:30:07
  And then I did. So that's it's it's it's a
• 1:30:12
  wonderful spiritual experience for me, both for what it was and
• 1:30:18
  for what it wasn't. And I think about it all the
• 1:30:22
  time. And I don't have any answers, no
• 1:30:25
  true answers. I only have questions.
• 1:30:28
  And that's just like a wonderful question that the Lord has
• 1:30:32
  caused to sort of be constant in my life.
• 1:30:37
  Oh jeez, I can see you're walking through, you know, the
• 1:30:41
  doors and one of the angels says.
• 1:30:45
  Lord, that Basil's here. And he's he's requesting to know
• 1:30:48
  why one tooth was fixed and the other one was not.
• 1:30:55
  He's like, oh, tell him he has more to learn.
• 1:30:58
  He didn't figure it out yet. Yeah.
• 1:31:00
  Send a message to Sarah Basil. That's young cherubin.
• 1:31:05
  It's like this. This is epic, man.
• 1:31:07
  That is no. Thank you so much for sharing
• 1:31:09
  that because there's so much to that.
• 1:31:14
  You know, it's kind of like in our weaknesses, Powers made best
• 1:31:19
  known. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 1:31:23
  That was, that was deep, man. That was actually really good.
• 1:31:26
  I I was literally trying not to blow up my microphone by.
• 1:31:29
  I wanted to laugh so hard so many times there, 'cause I'm
• 1:31:33
  like. That needs to be made into like
• 1:31:36
  a little mini sniffet cartoon. Like young Basil goes out on an
• 1:31:41
  adventure with the Lord, you know, he's like leaves, leaves
• 1:31:44
  college, like a pilgrimage that asked me everything, money.
• 1:31:49
  I didn't have time that I could have been used studying.
• 1:31:53
  It was just like such a big deal.
• 1:31:57
  And then just to have the resolution be literally a
• 1:32:00
  lifelong non resolution, it's just like a a, the the
• 1:32:07
  hilarious. I mean I I can't help but laugh
• 1:32:11
  about it every time, but yeah, I mean that's how it is sometimes,
• 1:32:15
  man. I mean it.
• 1:32:16
  It almost truly is like a biblical type story, you know.
• 1:32:21
  I wonder if there was ever a leopard that got like half
• 1:32:24
  healed right down the middle. You know, it's like this side
• 1:32:26
  looks great. This side over here, you know,
• 1:32:31
  there literally is a story in the Bible about that.
• 1:32:34
  I forgot what it is. Wow.
• 1:32:36
  I What was it? It's like a partial healing, I
• 1:32:39
  think, remember? Anyways, I don't know if we need
• 1:32:42
  to track it down, but let's do the quick thing.
• 1:32:44
  Partial healing. Yeah, let's look into that
• 1:32:47
  Bible. Maybe.
• 1:32:49
  I mean, look, it's taken me 15 years.
• 1:32:51
  Mark records the partial healing of the blind man.
• 1:32:54
  That's what it. Is.
• 1:32:55
  What is that? Let me pull it up here, OK?
• 1:32:59
  Just ask. ChatGPT bro.
• 1:33:00
  What are you fucking me? Mark 8 starting at verse 22 They
• 1:33:07
  came to Bethesda. They have Beth Sada here.
• 1:33:11
  Yeah, I see Beth Sada too. In the KGB, this was this was
• 1:33:14
  the the pool of Beth. There's yeah, OK Beth Sada, I'll
• 1:33:17
  call it that. They came to Beth Sada and some
• 1:33:19
  people brought a blind man and begged Jesus to touch him.
• 1:33:24
  See, look at that. They carried the guy, brought
• 1:33:27
  the blind man and begged Jesus to touch him.
• 1:33:30
  He took the blind man by the hand and led him outside the
• 1:33:34
  village. I see outside the village.
• 1:33:37
  Got to travel a couple hours there when he had spit on the
• 1:33:41
  man's eyes and put his hands on him.
• 1:33:43
  Jesus asked, do you see anything?
• 1:33:45
  He looked up and said, I see people, they look like trees.
• 1:33:48
  Walking around. Once more.
• 1:33:50
  Jesus put his hands on the man's eyes.
• 1:33:53
  Then his eyes were opened, his sight restored, and he saw
• 1:33:57
  everything clearly. 26 Jesus sent him home saying don't even
• 1:34:01
  go into the village. I think other translations say
• 1:34:04
  don't tell anybody. That guy got it.
• 1:34:08
  That guy got the full thing. OK, now you've got me on a Now
• 1:34:15
  you've got me on a tangent here. Let's see here.
• 1:34:18
  Apparently partial healings is a big topic on the Internet.
• 1:34:25
  Very interesting. For any more references, Second
• 1:34:29
  Colossians. Oh, thorn in the flesh.
• 1:34:32
  Yeah, of course. Paul's thorn in the flesh.
• 1:34:34
  Well, yeah, the thorn in the flesh, that that's actually what
• 1:34:37
  was like my first thought when you were telling me that it's
• 1:34:39
  like because we're made perfect in our weak, like his power
• 1:34:44
  works perfect in our weakness, right.
• 1:34:46
  And it's like, and then, you know, thinking about the
• 1:34:48
  leopards because maybe for some reason, if you would have got 2
• 1:34:52
  teeth that night, maybe you would have forgot about it.
• 1:34:55
  Yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, it really is the fact
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  that the difference of exactly. I mean that's the thing.
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  Miraculous things happen to us. And a lot of people listening,
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  I'm sure, can identify with this.
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  I've had plenty of other miraculous things happen, but
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  the one that sticks out the most, the one that is a constant
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  mystery of which I'm seeking God to guide me through, is the one
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  tooth healed. The other one the dentist did,
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  yeah, because I certainly have experienced lot.
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  Like I said, lots of weird spirit, like, you know,
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  supernatural stuff. But that one is just like
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  overarching, just like hovers over me all the time.
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  And I like it now. I like not having the answer.
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  Someday I know I'll get the answer, but right now it's just
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  like well. Clearly it's intentional and and
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  laughter is as medicine. So I mean I I couldn't help
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  myself but laugh. There's going to be people
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  listening to this when whenever these says they're going to be
• 1:36:03
  laughing they're going to be like that is just wild and and
• 1:36:07
  God's the creator of humor and we think about relationship.
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  It's it's personal. It's how we relate to one
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  another. So like, when we have a
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  relationship with the Lord, that's a special thing with you
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  and him. And I just think that's
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  beautiful. Thank you so much for sharing
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  that with me, man. And yeah, no problem.
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  Thanks for the opportunity. Yeah, that was really cool.
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  Now I really want to have you back someday in the future.
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  I I it was great just to get you introduced to my audience.
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  Most of them probably already know who you are.
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  Anyway, this is just like awesome for me to.
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  Talk with you and just get this one out there.
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  You're my 100th episode, man. So just hit 3 digits.
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  And. And and Basil is the one.
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  So super creep. Yeah, dude did it.
• 1:36:52
  You did it. Yeah.
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  But it only took me like, you know, almost five years to do
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  it. So yeah, no, I get it.
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  So weird. I mean, so weird.
• 1:37:02
  Think about it. Canary Cry Radio is 12 years old
• 1:37:06
  almost, and there's 165 episodes or something.
• 1:37:10
  Like, yeah, we definitely know what it's like to not quite hit
• 1:37:14
  every week. But you're doing great, man.
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  No, that's really cool. I mean, this has been a very
• 1:37:20
  humbling experience. I'm so glad we found the time to
• 1:37:23
  do it. I want a big shout out to, you
• 1:37:27
  know, all your listeners, but especially if there's any Canary
• 1:37:30
  Cry listeners out there, You know, send me a little message,
• 1:37:33
  send send me a little e-mail or something at
• 1:37:36
  canarycryradio@gmail.com and just say like, hey crazy on
• 1:37:40
  Millennial Seed podcast, a Millennial Mustard Seed podcast.
• 1:37:44
  And, you know, tell me how great I did and that'll make me feel
• 1:37:48
  better, better about it. Tell me about your partial
• 1:37:51
  healing story. So shout out to to everybody.
• 1:37:54
  If you have never heard my work or the work that the Lord has so
• 1:38:00
  graciously done in spite of me, go check it out.
• 1:38:04
  You know there's a lot I me personally, I've got kind of a a
• 1:38:08
  range of stuff out there. We've got Canary Cry radio,
• 1:38:12
  Super Fringy interviews, high production quality type of
• 1:38:17
  thing. That's always fun and this
• 1:38:19
  confuses everybody. We've regretted naming this the
• 1:38:22
  same thing every day. Canary Cry Radio is one thing.
• 1:38:27
  Canary Cry News Talk is a totally different show.
• 1:38:32
  That's an in depth media deconstruction and analysis with
• 1:38:36
  a supernatural biblical worldview.
• 1:38:39
  We think you'll like that. It's a little bit more loosey
• 1:38:41
  goosey, a little bit more community oriented, but give it
• 1:38:45
  a couple of tries. And if you really wanna dive
• 1:38:48
  deep into the Basil verse, there's Ravel, which is a
• 1:38:53
  podcast I did with Doctor Christopher Ryan Gates.
• 1:38:55
  We're kind of along the same lines of, you know, your mission
• 1:39:00
  statement here. We're just digging into the
• 1:39:02
  weird stuff. I'd say it's it's probably a
• 1:39:06
  little bit, it's less Fringy in the way that we talk about
• 1:39:11
  Fringy here. It was my attempt to make, you
• 1:39:14
  know, a Fringy Ish feeling to maybe some people who are a
• 1:39:20
  little bit more normie, but some incredibly in depth fascinating
• 1:39:27
  interviews and topics on that one, with a very talented PhD in
• 1:39:31
  Biblical interpretation, Doctor Christopher.
• 1:39:34
  And then if you want to go even real to the bottom of the barrel
• 1:39:38
  of the Basil verse, go check out the Joy Spearcy Theory.
• 1:39:42
  It's just an incredible time hearing people's life stories
• 1:39:48
  and their interactions with the supernatural and the just the
• 1:39:52
  crazy. You know what that show showed
• 1:39:57
  me? I know nothing about what it's
• 1:40:00
  like to be someone else. Other people are just having
• 1:40:05
  such drastically different experiences than me.
• 1:40:10
  So that's a very valuable one as well.
• 1:40:12
  But no matter what you listen to, we got something for you.
• 1:40:15
  We got something for you laying around.
• 1:40:18
  Well, it was an honor to have this discussion with you, man.
• 1:40:22
  And I just you feel like an old friend, you know, You just, I
• 1:40:25
  feel like I've known you forever, just listening to you
• 1:40:28
  all these years and now being able to talk with you.
• 1:40:31
  I'm like, it's just too cool. So I love it, man.
• 1:40:35
  Well, you guys go leave. Canary Cry news talk.
• 1:40:38
  Canary Cry radio joy. Spearcy theories, all Basil's
• 1:40:42
  recommendations. And I'll put some stuff in the
• 1:40:44
  show notes so you guys can just go right down into the show
• 1:40:47
  notes of this episode and give it a click and show them some
• 1:40:50
  love if you don't know who they are.
• 1:40:52
  These guys are the reason that I coughed up enough courage to
• 1:40:56
  start broadcasting my own voice out there into the airwaves.
• 1:41:03
  Guns should be on in the near future.
• 1:41:06
  It's Mustard Seed episode 100. You guys, thank you for taking
• 1:41:10
  this journey with me. And please share this one.
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  Yeah, I don't care how you share it.
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  Just share this episode coming to you from Southeastern
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  Pennsylvania. God bless and goodbye
• 1:41:33
  Southeastern Pennsylvania, you say.
• 1:41:35
  Yeah, we, I know we've got quite a bit of Canarians over on that
• 1:41:41
  side of the country. Really.
• 1:41:44
  Yeah. Yeah, a lot actually.
• 1:41:47
  So many as. It's heavily populated here.
• 1:41:50
  Yeah, that So we're, you know, just exploring the idea of doing
• 1:41:57
  some sort of conference or camp out or you know some sort of
• 1:42:02
  live thing. You know, I don't know what to
• 1:42:09
  call it. We're not calling it anything
• 1:42:10
  yet. And one of the locations that a
• 1:42:15
  producer of the show has offered is some sort of, I don't even
• 1:42:23
  know what to call it, some sort of wilderness camp?
• 1:42:28
  And Camp of the Unknown God East.
• 1:42:31
  Yeah, that might be a good way to do it.