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Introducing Fascination Street · Gone Cold - Texas True Crime

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  Speaker 1: Hey, y'all. If you're looking for something a little lighter
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  Speaker 1: than true crime, we suggest you check out the podcast
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  Speaker 1: Fascination Street, brought to you by our good pal Steve Owens.
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  Speaker 1: Steve interviews folks from practically all facets of life and
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  Speaker 1: life experience, from musicians to businessmen and actors to pop
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  Speaker 1: culture figures. I'll let Steve take it from here.
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  Speaker 2: Do you ever wonder how people got to where they are?
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  Speaker 2: What makes someone become an actor, a musician, an athlete,
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  Speaker 2: an artist? Me too, So I invite you to take
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  Speaker 2: a walk down Fascination Street as I get to know
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  Speaker 2: the answers to these and other questions. My name is
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  Speaker 2: Steve Owens, and I started Fascination Street as a way
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  Speaker 2: to get to know these stories, like do astronauts believe
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  Speaker 2: in sentient life outside of Earth? Was James Earl Jones funny?
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  Speaker 2: What does Don McLean think about rap music? Did this
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  Speaker 2: singer for the Presidents of the United States of America
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  Speaker 2: write a song with kurtko Van's ghost? What is the
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  Speaker 2: real Rachel Dolijaw story? And what did Nelson Mandela listen
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  Speaker 2: to while he was spending time in a South African
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  Speaker 2: prison with nearly four hundred and fifty episodes spanning more
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  Speaker 2: than seven years, You're sure to find some fascinating episodes
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  Speaker 2: to make your work day go a little smoother. Here
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  Speaker 2: are a few short clips astronaut Scott Kelly. Do you
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  Speaker 2: think that there is life outside of this planet? Sentient?
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  Speaker 2: Life off of this planet?
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  Speaker 3: What kind of book?
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  Speaker 2: Sentient? I mean, I don't want to use the word
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  Speaker 2: alien because that sounds dumb, But do you think that.
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  Speaker 3: They're What word did he use? I don't even know
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  Speaker 3: if I understood what that word means?
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  Speaker 2: Oh, sin sentient.
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  Speaker 3: Life, sentient. How do you spell that?
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  Speaker 2: Se n t I e n T sentient sentient?
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  Speaker 3: He looked it up cold on I want. I don't
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  Speaker 3: want to agree with you if I don't know what
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  Speaker 3: the word means. Oh, of course, centient You see, able
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  Speaker 3: to perceive or feel things. Sentient as an adjective, a
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  Speaker 3: creature that can suffer and feel pain, mostly animals and
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  Speaker 3: human sentient being.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Do you think there's life?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, so life that is complicated enough to be sentient?
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  Speaker 4: Yeah?
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  Speaker 2: Life, that's not a plant? Do you think there's non
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  Speaker 2: plant life out there?
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  Speaker 3: I think it would be very unlikely if there wasn't.
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  Speaker 3: If you consider the size of the universe and the
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  Speaker 3: number of stars and potential Earth like planets out there,
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  Speaker 3: and if you believe in science and evolution, then yeah,
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  Speaker 3: I without you know, having any facts, I believe it's
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  Speaker 3: very very likely that there is a lot of life
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  Speaker 3: out there, because you know, if there's just a little bit,
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  Speaker 3: if you believe there's a little bit, then there's probably
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  Speaker 3: an awful lot considering the size of our universe.
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  Speaker 2: So I think so actor Tony Winters.
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  Speaker 5: So generally what you do is you slip booties over
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  Speaker 5: the shoes so that when the actors walking you don't
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  Speaker 5: hear his doesn't sound like a Clydesdale. So after I
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  Speaker 5: had done it shot it a couple of times, the
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  Speaker 5: sound guy said, can we get some? He looked at
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  Speaker 5: my shoes, he said, can we get some black booties
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  Speaker 5: over here?
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  Speaker 6: For Tony?
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  Speaker 5: And James Roll says black booties?
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  Speaker 6: I want some.
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  Speaker 2: Songwriting icon don McLean.
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  Speaker 7: There's so much illiteracy. Of course, that's promoted by rap music,
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  Speaker 7: which is the ultimate illiterate music. It's not even music.
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  Speaker 7: I don't know what it is, but it's lowered the
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  Speaker 7: standards for what one would call a song so far
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  Speaker 7: that the old standards aren't even in view anymore, you know,
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  Speaker 7: melodies and Ryan's and so.
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  Speaker 2: Lead singer from the popular nineties group Presidents of the
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  Speaker 2: United States of America, Chris Blue.
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  Speaker 6: I got a call from President's manager saying that he
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  Speaker 6: had had a call from a place called the Museum
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  Speaker 6: of the Mysteries, and the Museum of the Mysteries had
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  Speaker 6: had a seance the night before. They claimed to have
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  Speaker 6: been contacted by the ghost of Kurt Cobain, who sent
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  Speaker 6: lyrics down from somewhere with the instruction that he wanted
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  Speaker 6: Chris Blue to sing this song. And then he had
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  Speaker 6: a little code. It said, ask Dave Groll about the
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  Speaker 6: odd shaped Mexican beer bottles in the avocado green kitchen.
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  Speaker 6: That was some sort of key, like if I doubted
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  Speaker 6: that it was true, I could ask Dave Grohl to
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  Speaker 6: verify through that little image. So I got the lyrics
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  Speaker 6: and they were not exactly rhyming or anything. They were
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  Speaker 6: just kind of like blobs of lyrics. And I called
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  Speaker 6: Chris Novicela to ask him. I don't have Dave Roll's
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  Speaker 6: phone number, he's too big of a rock star, but
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  Speaker 6: I can call Chris Novsel.
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  Speaker 2: I'll give it to you offline.
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  Speaker 6: Go ahead, it's five IF. So I called Chris and
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  Speaker 6: went over the whole thing with him, and you know,
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  Speaker 6: he gave me his opinion, which was, I don't know.
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  Speaker 6: His opinion was basically like, I'm not going to say
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  Speaker 6: things like this aren't real, but I'm not going to
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  Speaker 6: say it's real. You know. His big advice was just
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  Speaker 6: don't do anything that sort of puts you at the
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  Speaker 6: center of the Nirvana thing, because there's a lot of
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  Speaker 6: darkness in that zone. And so I got off with
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  Speaker 6: him and I was like, I don't know what to do. Well,
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  Speaker 6: you know, then I kind of I realized he said
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  Speaker 6: sing the song. And initially I was thinking I'll record
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  Speaker 6: it and release it. It'll be a thing. But I
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  Speaker 6: eventually realized none of these instructions are to sing it.
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  Speaker 6: So I said it to music. I went out in
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  Speaker 6: the backyard and I sang it, figuring if it is
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  Speaker 6: from the ethereal version of Kurt Cobain, he'll probably hear it.
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  Speaker 2: Rachel dolij'all, I heard you say once in an interview
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  Speaker 2: that race is a social construct. Can you tell everybody
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  Speaker 2: what that means or what you mean by that.
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  Speaker 8: Yeah, well, I'm definitely not the first person to say that.
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  Speaker 8: It's not something I made up. It's well known in academia.
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  Speaker 8: Any one oh one sociology class will tell you just that.
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  Speaker 8: I mean race. The definition of race in connection with
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  Speaker 8: separating the human race into separate categories is and has
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  Speaker 8: been disproven as you know science like it's it's definitely
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  Speaker 8: not a scientific idea. The human race does not meet
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  Speaker 8: the zoological requirements for separate races. Like some species like dogs,
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  Speaker 8: for example, meet that requirement of separate breeds and that
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  Speaker 8: kind of thing, but the human race doesn't. We're ninety
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  Speaker 8: nine percent the same.
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  Speaker 2: Nashville legend and Texas icon Kinky Friedman.
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  Speaker 4: There's a lot of fascinating stuff about Mandela. And one
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  Speaker 4: of the things is that happened in when I was
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  Speaker 4: on a book tour of South Africa and in the
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  Speaker 4: nineties somewhere I was doing some national TV show when
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  Speaker 4: there was this guy there named Tokyo Seshwa. He said,
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  Speaker 4: sex Whale's how to remember it. He was Mandela's right
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  Speaker 4: hand man. So he goes on to tell me, he says,
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  Speaker 4: you know, you know, Mandela was a big fan of yours,
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  Speaker 4: and I said, no, I did not know that. I said,
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  Speaker 4: that's great man. He said, which book is it? He said, well,
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  Speaker 4: it's not the books. He likes your music. But now
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  Speaker 4: don't get a swelled head about this, kinky, because you
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  Speaker 4: were not Mandela's favorite singer. That was always Dolly Parton.
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  Speaker 4: And this rang so true that I knew it was.
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  Speaker 4: And then I chased it back a little bit that
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  Speaker 4: Mandela used to play this stuff late at night, and
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  Speaker 4: they would let him do that. I mean, after trying
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  Speaker 4: to kill him many times, they let him have his
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  Speaker 4: own pirate radio show for the other inmates. Maybe he
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  Speaker 4: will settle people down. I mean, sold American song he
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  Speaker 4: liked very much, and Tokyo heard him play the damn
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  Speaker 4: thing all the time. And then Tokyo said, then one
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  Speaker 4: night he stumbled on ride him jew Boy. And when
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  Speaker 4: he did that, he never let go of it, and
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  Speaker 4: he would play it times, sometimes the same night. And
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  Speaker 4: I was thinking, what a great man Mandela was. This
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  Speaker 4: was not even his beef. I mean, to understand and
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  Speaker 4: care about somebody else's situation and not about the tribal
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  Speaker 4: problems in Africa or the children starving. That way was
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  Speaker 4: always always involved with, but jew Boy was one he understood.
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  Speaker 2: With new episodes every Monday, Fascination Street Podcasts is available
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