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Feminist Movie Friday: Real Women Have Curves · Stuff Mom Never Told You

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Speaker 1: Hey, this is Anny and Samantha, and welcome to stuff.
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Speaker 1: I never told your protection, but I heard you.
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Speaker 2: And as we are releasing this, not necessarily when we're
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Speaker 2: recording it, but because we're a little head, we're getting there, y'all.
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Speaker 2: We are coming to the start of Hispanic Heritage Month.
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Speaker 3: Yay. So we are opening with.
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Speaker 2: The classic movie Real Women have Curves for our feminist
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Speaker 2: movie of the month. And you know what, any I
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Speaker 2: have so many memories about this movie. You have distinct memories,
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Speaker 2: and though it follows a Latina immigrant family, it still
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Speaker 2: somehow made me feel seen, like I felt connected to
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Speaker 2: the movie went. So this was released in two thousand
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Speaker 2: and two. I had just graduated. I was now in
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Speaker 2: college trying to figure everything out. So I really felt
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Speaker 2: like not only was it around my same age and experiences,
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Speaker 2: although I didn't get a full scholarship to Columbia's Lovely,
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Speaker 2: but you know, like feeling this movie was different because
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Speaker 2: we've been talking about all the different you know, old
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Speaker 2: school romantic comedies with a very oftentimes skinny white lead,
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Speaker 2: uh being cutesy, you know, the.
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Speaker 3: Pixie manic. It was that era.
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Speaker 2: So having this type of movie come out was something
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Speaker 2: that spoke a lot to me. Maybe it was the
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Speaker 2: fact that we're seeing an actress that was normal, like
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Speaker 2: she her body type is normal, Like it's not which
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Speaker 2: we will talk about, like it is referred to as
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Speaker 2: being fat.
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Speaker 3: But to me, I'm like, no, this is what normal
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Speaker 3: looks like.
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Speaker 2: And I wish at that point, I'm like, I need
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Speaker 2: to look like that. Like I felt like I was
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Speaker 2: even bigger than her and made me feel some type
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Speaker 2: of way, and just how she loved herself no matter what,
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Speaker 2: like she was a rightly so like you have that
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Speaker 2: ink still in this movie America Farra got that angst.
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Speaker 2: But it could have also been that it was a
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Speaker 2: person of color being a lead in this movie. I
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Speaker 2: love that, and that she wasn't being fetishized or being
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Speaker 2: a stereotype and more confident in herself and trying to
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Speaker 2: bring confidence to her family and even to her community.
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Speaker 2: Like I loved everything about this. Again, it could have
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Speaker 2: been all of these things, but yeah, this movie really
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Speaker 2: felt like it was for normal girls, and it was
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Speaker 2: representing brown and people of color, and for me, who
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Speaker 2: lived in a society that was all white, essentially, seeing
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Speaker 2: this felt awesome, especially because it was celebrated. The movie
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Speaker 2: was actually really well received, so it was celebrated for
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Speaker 2: its cast and content, and as one reviewer wrote about
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Speaker 2: the movie, one of the strengths of Real Women Have
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Speaker 2: Curves is that it isn't about just one thing. It's
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Speaker 2: about many things. A coming of age drama centered on
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Speaker 2: a mother daughter conflict, it also explores the immigrant experience,
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Speaker 2: the battle to accept oneself, imperfections and all, and the
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Speaker 2: importance of personal dignity.
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Speaker 3: And I thought that too.
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Speaker 2: At the very beginning, it was like, how do we
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Speaker 2: describe this movie. There's so many things. It's not just
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Speaker 2: one thing. It's not just a girl going to college.
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Speaker 2: It's not just a romantic comedy. It's not just like
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Speaker 2: so many things, and they.
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Speaker 3: Felt very real. Again.
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Speaker 2: It's a release brought on a much needed conversation about
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Speaker 2: the experiences of Latina girls in US culture, as well
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Speaker 2: as conversations about body image at the time. I think
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Speaker 2: this is where we were finally starting to hit into
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Speaker 2: the body positivity and away from the all of the
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Speaker 2: eating disorders that we saw and all the complications that
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Speaker 2: magazines and media was trying to tell us at the
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Speaker 2: time about what was wrong with women and what was
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Speaker 2: wrong with girls and what they thought was normal. So
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Speaker 2: this was such a great like timing for this movie.
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Speaker 2: It has held up pretty well since this original release
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Speaker 2: and was even recognized in twenty twenty one as part
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Speaker 2: of the Significant Movies and Movie Makers Exhibit at the
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Speaker 2: Academy of Museum of Motion Pictures. But yeah, it also
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Speaker 2: had garnered many awards before then, such as the Sun
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Speaker 2: Dance Film Awards, Special Jury Prize for Acting for both
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Speaker 2: America Ferra and Lupe Antiberos, and so many other awards.
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Speaker 2: And Lupe played the mother she was in Slina too
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Speaker 2: like she's she's caliber actress, and I felt like she
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Speaker 2: made this movie so perfect, like she played that mother
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Speaker 2: figure so too well, too well. And as a side note,
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Speaker 2: this was America Ferrara's movie debut. The movie was directed
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Speaker 2: by Patricia Cardosa and was originally a play written Byosephina Lopez,
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Speaker 2: who makes an appearance in the movie as well. She
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Speaker 2: also co wrote the screenplay as well. From what I gathered,
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Speaker 2: Cardosa hasn't done too many movies since then or to
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Speaker 2: She's directed several TV shows I think, and a few movies,
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Speaker 2: but hasn't done much since then. J just a FINA's
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Speaker 2: play I think is still going there's a musical now, yep.
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Speaker 3: I love a good musical.
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Speaker 1: So many movies we do on here, I'm like, they
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Speaker 1: have a music. I love it.
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Speaker 2: Well. This was originally a play, so to jump into
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Speaker 2: a musical seemed pretty natural, and I could see how
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Speaker 2: this could be a good musical to be honest, like
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Speaker 2: the way you could travel through.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, Like I don't feel like if it's going on,
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Speaker 3: we should go.
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Speaker 2: Try to see it anyway, I know I need to
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Speaker 2: find tickets, so let's jump into it. We have eighteen
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Speaker 2: year old high school senior Anna Garcia played by America Ferrera,
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Speaker 2: who is finishing up her last year at Beverly Hills
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Speaker 2: High School. She's a young girl trying to accomplish her
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Speaker 2: dreams as well as balance her home life and keeping
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Speaker 2: her family happy.
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Speaker 3: Sort of. She's just really frustrated.
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Speaker 2: She has worked hard at school to achieve something different
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Speaker 2: from what her mother tries to push it on to her.
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Speaker 2: Her teacher, mister Guzman played by George Lopez. I love
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Speaker 2: that he just popped up. I forgot he was in this,
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Speaker 2: but anyway has been someone he has been someone who
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Speaker 2: has encouraged her to try for.
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Speaker 3: More, including going to college.
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Speaker 2: He lets her know that he knows the dean from
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Speaker 2: Columbia University and encourages her to submit an application, which
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Speaker 2: she responds that she'll think about it. But you know,
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Speaker 2: she lets him know, my life is not like that.
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Speaker 2: My family's not going to prove it'll be really hard.
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Speaker 2: At home. After school, her family throws her a graduation
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Speaker 2: party to celebrate, and soon the party turns as her mother, Carmen,
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Speaker 2: has already started nagging her about her not eating too
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Speaker 2: much cake because of her weight, and again her prospects
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Speaker 2: of finding a husband.
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Speaker 3: Again.
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Speaker 2: The mother Carmen, she plays it so well. She's got
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Speaker 2: the figure rings to try to get her to get married,
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Speaker 2: like she gave up on her other daughter Estella, who
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Speaker 2: is older but provides for the family. Like so many
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Speaker 2: things in here, so good, And we have mister Guzman
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Speaker 2: stopping by to try to talk to the parents about
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Speaker 2: Anna's prospects for college, but her mother is very resistant,
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Speaker 2: even talking Anna into going to work with her sister
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Speaker 2: at her sister's clothing factory. So she is now a
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Speaker 2: part of this. Even though Anna doesn't want to this,
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Speaker 2: she knows what this is gonna lead to and she's
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Speaker 2: get stuck, but she eventually gives in after some conflicts.
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Speaker 2: Anna tries to help Estella. So Estella's character is fantastic.
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Speaker 2: You don't get to see much about her except through
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Speaker 2: Anna's perspective. To be honest, but Anna's tries to help.
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Speaker 2: She realizes that Estella is doing a lot and tries
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Speaker 2: to help, but oh doesn't always do the right things.
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Speaker 2: Like her attitude is so great and you want her
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Speaker 2: to win, but like the moment where she tries to
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Speaker 2: go to the contractors to get an advance that does
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Speaker 2: not go well, and like Estella is really embarrassed and
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Speaker 2: upset about this.
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Speaker 3: Interaction, not happy.
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Speaker 2: But in the end, and Anna does help as much
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Speaker 2: as she can, whether it's with the addresses or encouraging
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Speaker 2: Estella to do more being more forward in her time There,
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Speaker 2: she gets to confront her mother, who continues to fat
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Speaker 2: shame her and ridicule her and Estella and everybody else
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Speaker 2: in that room. She just goes after everyone. After an
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Speaker 2: especially hot afternoon, Anna takes off her shirt in order
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Speaker 2: to cool down do her mother's dismay, and soon encourages
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Speaker 2: the other ladies as well, and they all talk about
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Speaker 2: their flaws, but also it kind of comes to a
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Speaker 2: point where they start encouraging one another and telling each
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Speaker 2: other to love themselves. Like it's one of those like, yes,
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Speaker 2: this is very real, Like I relate to this a
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Speaker 2: little too hard, where you start like criticizing yourself and
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Speaker 2: then you see other people they criticize themselves and are.
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Speaker 3: Like, well, do none of the thing's wrong with you?
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Speaker 3: And then it because goes back and forth. I love it.
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Speaker 3: It's a great, great scene.
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Speaker 2: And her mother eventually is like, oh my goodness, Okay, okay, okay,
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Speaker 2: you know all these things.
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Speaker 3: You only need to hide that away, be a lady.
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Speaker 3: I love herself that a lot too.
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Speaker 2: At home, and still having to deal with her mother's
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Speaker 2: constant nagging about getting married and having children. Even thinks
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Speaker 2: that she the mother may be pregnant, but turns out
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Speaker 2: she's just going through the change. And then we have
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Speaker 2: that moment which I'm like, oh, no, I relate more
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Speaker 2: to the mother here than I do Toanna.
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Speaker 3: What has happened to me? Ah?
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Speaker 2: But she's talking about, yes, things have changed, she's no
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Speaker 2: longer a woman and all these things.
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Speaker 3: An I was like, mom, that's not how this works.
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Speaker 2: Like she's really like as crass and as annoyed as
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Speaker 2: on I can get. She still was loving her mom
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Speaker 2: and trying to encourage her mom to do to make
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Speaker 2: a change, to think differently. But then soon mister Guzman
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Speaker 2: comes by to let Anna know that not only was
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Speaker 2: she accepted to Columbia University, but that she's gotten a
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Speaker 2: full scholarship as well. Her mother is not happy at all,
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Speaker 2: but her father is pretty excited and very proud. But
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Speaker 2: the excitement goes away when they realize that she would
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Speaker 2: have to move across the country away from her family.
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Speaker 2: And though an I protested, her mother guilts her saying
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Speaker 2: what about her grandfather? Who and her grandfather's relationship is
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Speaker 2: really tight, really sweet, and so she's like, what are
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Speaker 2: you going to do? You gonna abandon him? Which makes
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Speaker 2: Anna stop and think about it. So at the same
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Speaker 2: time doing all of these things, Anna is navigating her
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Speaker 2: dating life, meeting up with a schoolmate who is from
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Speaker 2: a completely different social group. He's trying to learn Spanish
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Speaker 2: curse words like. It's kind of like what, yeah, that's
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Speaker 2: about right, that's about it, right. But she's able to
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Speaker 2: feel confident in herself and her relationship with him, even
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Speaker 2: though they know it's not gonna go anywhere. But she's
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Speaker 2: okay with that. She's like, look at me, see my body,
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Speaker 2: See who I am, this is me.
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Speaker 3: I'm like, you know what, damn girl, go ahead. Love
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Speaker 3: that confidence.
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Speaker 2: Soon she decides to take the opportunity to actually go
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Speaker 2: to college eventually with her father's and grandfather's blessing. She
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Speaker 2: and her dad confront her mother to let her know
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Speaker 2: that she's moving to New York. The day she's about
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Speaker 2: to leave, she says goodbye to her sister, who has
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Speaker 2: to go to work because her sister is constantly working
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Speaker 2: and try to provide for the family, and tries to
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Speaker 2: say goodbye to her mother, who refuses to get out
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Speaker 2: of bed, and then she HEAs to the airport with
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Speaker 2: her father and grandfather. Then we cut to seeing her
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Speaker 2: living the new life in New York with her new
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Speaker 2: clothes and happiness. What I assume end of story. I
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Speaker 2: liked her fashion change when you got to New York,
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Speaker 2: and yeah, I see it, I see it. I like it.
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Speaker 3: I like the changes.
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Speaker 2: So yeah, So there's a movie so great, Like I
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Speaker 2: feel like it's just such a sweet movie without being
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Speaker 2: over the top, like tragedy porn type of thing that
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Speaker 2: people often expect when it talks about immigration and families,
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Speaker 2: refugee families or any of them.
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Speaker 3: Like it's different. The story was different. The story was
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Speaker 3: like real life.
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Speaker 2: I love the shots that they had when they were
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Speaker 2: driving through La or East La, showing the different perspectives
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Speaker 2: different communities.
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Speaker 3: It was.
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Speaker 2: It was a great shot and I think it's such
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Speaker 2: a great movie with that. There comes to themes. Family
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Speaker 2: obviously is a big theme throughout. Her relationship with her
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Speaker 2: mother and sister is so interesting. At first it kind
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Speaker 2: of puts me off, Like the way Anna approached her sister, especially, it.
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Speaker 3: Really was like, oh, what do you mean to her?
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Speaker 3: I was like, Estella's really really.
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Speaker 2: Trying, and you're killing all her dreams. Like Stella probably
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Speaker 2: was one of the most positive yeah characters here because
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Speaker 2: everything she did she did because she loved it. Everything
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Speaker 2: she did because she felt like she was able to
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Speaker 2: prove something about herself her designs, her her ability to
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Speaker 2: make the best quality dresses, her ability to provide for
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Speaker 2: her community and for her friends and her family, Like
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Speaker 2: this is something really really important to her, and yet
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Speaker 2: her mother is like ripping her apart every chance that
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Speaker 2: she gets.
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Speaker 1: Right because she doesn't have the husband. Where are the
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Speaker 1: grandkids that you owe me? That was a line that
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Speaker 1: was like, oof, I have heard that before. It stings.
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Speaker 2: Thank god you have multiple children like my family where
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Speaker 2: they have plenty of grandchildren.
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Speaker 3: I'm like, we're good.
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Speaker 2: You've had to raise grandchildren, right, We're good now, okay, great, thanks,
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Speaker 2: And then like the role of women. I found that
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Speaker 2: interesting because yes, as as much as like her mom
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Speaker 2: talks about supporting her husband and being home for her husband,
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Speaker 2: she's ahead of the family. She makes a lot of
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Speaker 2: the decisions. I mean in the end, yes, the father
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Speaker 2: came in and was like, we're gonna help, but like
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Speaker 2: when she allowed for the teacher to come in, like
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Speaker 2: then father had to talk her into it.
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Speaker 3: Like all these things.
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Speaker 2: She was the head of the household, and she still
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Speaker 2: was like women should not be ahead, you know, like
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Speaker 2: she should not be lead. At the same time, she
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Speaker 2: also very much relies on Stella, who was an a
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Speaker 2: business owner, Like, yeah, she was being taken advantage of,
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Speaker 2: and yeah, the system was not set up to help
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Speaker 2: her prosper.
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Speaker 3: But hopefully that changes. Like if that was a part two,
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Speaker 3: I would love to see.
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Speaker 2: That change, but like she was the breadwinner for the
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Speaker 2: family partially, like not only her father who had the
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Speaker 2: lan who worked in landscape as such, Like she was
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Speaker 2: there providing all of these jobs for others.
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Speaker 3: She is a leader in her community.
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Speaker 2: Yeah.
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Speaker 1: One of the things that really struck me about this movie,
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Speaker 1: well two things. One is it subverts expectations because there's
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Speaker 1: so many scenes where it's like, oh, ostrella's made on
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Speaker 1: a red dress, she'll wear it later. Oh, she's met
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Speaker 1: this guy and he's either gonna be the worst guy
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Speaker 1: the best guy, and they'll be in love for ever.
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Speaker 1: Oh at the end, the relationship with the mother will
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Speaker 1: be solved and it's not right. And I really liked that.
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Speaker 1: I really liked that. But another thing that really stood
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Speaker 1: out to me is in the scene where Anna takes
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Speaker 1: off her clothes and they're kind of in their underwear.
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Speaker 1: She's in her underwear and bra, and then the other
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Speaker 1: women do it except her mom, and her mom is
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Speaker 1: fat shaming everybody and saying that this is shameful, honest, like,
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Speaker 1: but you look like us, why are you doing this?
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Speaker 1: And I feel like a lot of us can relate
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Speaker 1: to having that person in her life who was a woman,
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Speaker 1: and who's holding you to their standard of like, well,
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Speaker 1: I had to work by the age of thirteen and
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Speaker 1: I had to do so you have to do that too,
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Speaker 1: And if you're not, then it's like they feel hurt
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Speaker 1: that they had to do it and they're kind of
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Speaker 1: lashing out on other people, like you should have to
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Speaker 1: do it too, because I had to do it. And
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Speaker 1: so I feel like I saw that a lot with
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Speaker 1: her mom, and I think like even just a bunch
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Speaker 1: of the women having moments like that where you could
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Speaker 1: tell they were angry they were being held to those standards,
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Speaker 1: but they were kind of lashing out at other women, right, yeah,
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Speaker 1: being not doing the thing that they think you should
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Speaker 1: have to do.
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Speaker 2: Right, And like, I think this is something to do
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Speaker 2: with immigrants and refugees as well, and we've seen this
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Speaker 2: and the people who uphold policies that oppress them. I've
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Speaker 2: seen this a lot, and I've seen this like in
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Speaker 2: Asian communities as well, in which they are saying, we
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Speaker 2: as a race did this, so other racist should have
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Speaker 2: to do this as well, and if they can't, it's
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Speaker 2: their fault and they're they're the problem. Instead of seeing
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Speaker 2: the standard of like no, that policy is racist, like this,
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Speaker 2: this is not what you should have to do, and
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Speaker 2: just because you had to do it shouldn't be everybody
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Speaker 2: else has to do it as well. That's that same
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Speaker 2: level of like, well I was able to make it
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Speaker 2: through all these things, but your circumstances are different, Like
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Speaker 2: there are things that that is upheld that only oppress
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Speaker 2: their own and they all they want to have that
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Speaker 2: upheld because they had to go to it too. Same
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Speaker 2: thing with like so many other things, like if I
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Speaker 2: have to suffer, you have to suffer. Yeah, and if
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Speaker 2: you succeed without that suffering, it doesn't count and it's
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Speaker 2: unfair and you shouldn't be able to allow to do that,
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Speaker 2: not realizing the system is held up to.
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Speaker 3: Do that very thing.
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Speaker 2: And yeah, we see that with her talking about it
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Speaker 2: getting a husband, and like her ability to have a
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Speaker 2: husband or her her I guess, yeah, her being able
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Speaker 2: to say she has a husband exempts her from these standards. Now,
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Speaker 2: which is why Estella is a problem. Even though Stella
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Speaker 2: is doing all these other amazing things that she is
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Speaker 2: proud of but won't say she's proud of, she still
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Speaker 2: only sees the fact that she doesn't have a husband
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Speaker 2: and Estella is actually, even though she never really says it,
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Speaker 2: is really supportive of the Vana in making sure like
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Speaker 2: she can go. She wants her to go, but like
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Speaker 2: knowing that this is not her path and not begrudging
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Speaker 2: her of that, realizing you know, I have this path,
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Speaker 2: you have this path, showing her that as well as
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Speaker 2: like yes, like red, that red dress. I really love
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Speaker 2: that scene in which she's like, pretty dresses aren't just
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Speaker 2: for skinny girls, and I was like, oh for And
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Speaker 2: again this is one of those moments where I'm like,
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Speaker 2: but she's not that bad. She's not big, Like I
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Speaker 2: was very annoyed by that situation, but I mean that's
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Speaker 2: the conversation is like she's just a normal sized girl.
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Speaker 3: I'm sure she's more.
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Speaker 2: Than healthy, like by all, like everything that you see
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Speaker 2: on her, Like they talk about celluline, like where don't
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Speaker 2: see it? Like it's just an interesting concept. But then
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Speaker 2: we also have the relationship with her father and grandfather,
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Speaker 2: and it's interesting because I like that they did not
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Speaker 2: do the toxic like machismo perspective on any of them.
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Speaker 2: I really love that it's such a loving relationship. Yes,
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Speaker 2: the toxic relationship comes from the mother, which is a
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Speaker 2: whole different conversation, but the fact that her relationship with
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Speaker 2: her father is so pure, her relationship with her grandfather
18:42
Speaker 2: is so pure, it is lovely to see. Lovely to
18:44
Speaker 2: see a family that gets a loong and not only that,
18:46
Speaker 2: like the mele cousins and others that live around them
18:49
Speaker 2: with them are just as supportive of her. The sarenade
18:53
Speaker 2: congratulating her was the cutest thing. Like, I love that
18:57
Speaker 2: they are able to show really healthy relationships with the
19:00
Speaker 2: men in this family.
19:02
Speaker 3: Like it felt really nice.
19:03
Speaker 2: It was like, oh, thank god, but it's not always true.
19:07
Speaker 2: We know reality is can be different, but we know
19:10
Speaker 2: also this can be true, and this oftentimes is, and
19:12
Speaker 2: it's not celebrated.
19:14
Speaker 3: Enough, especially in the family is of color.
19:18
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was nice. It was nice, and I appreciated
19:21
Speaker 1: sort of the the messiness of it of like you
19:27
Speaker 1: could just it just felt like they really understood a
19:30
Speaker 1: family dynamic. Like this scene where Anna's at the table
19:33
Speaker 1: and she's trying to write her mom is telling that
19:36
Speaker 1: story of the telenovela. It just felt so like, yeah,
19:42
Speaker 1: this is this families like and sometimes you fight and
19:46
Speaker 1: you know each other and you know how to push
19:48
Speaker 1: each other's buttons. But then you come back and you
19:52
Speaker 1: apologize or make up or whatever it is. But it
19:55
Speaker 1: did feel very like a real family and it was
19:58
Speaker 1: nice to see, Yeah they weren't. The men in this
20:01
Speaker 1: situation were very supportive of her and just seemed to
20:05
Speaker 1: know who she was and be like, yeah, she's she's gonna.
20:09
Speaker 2: Go places right, right, and supporting that, wanting that for her,
20:13
Speaker 2: rooting for her, and yeah, that kind of goes back
20:16
Speaker 2: to the feeling like she was supposed to help out
20:18
Speaker 2: her family, she is supposed to get married, Like she's
20:20
Speaker 2: fighting this and internally like there's this level of like
20:24
Speaker 2: her telling mister Guzman, this is not I can't do it.
20:28
Speaker 2: My family's not gonna let me. I have to help
20:30
Speaker 2: my family. But yeah, she's angry because she feels like
20:33
Speaker 2: this is an unfair role for her and why does
20:36
Speaker 2: she have to do this, Like it's such a common
20:39
Speaker 2: conversation of like being there for your family and what
20:41
Speaker 2: do you owe your family and how tight knit they are,
20:44
Speaker 2: and then the cultural expectations of it, and their expectation
20:48
Speaker 2: was she would graduate high school good enough, and now
20:51
Speaker 2: you can help the family. Now you have to be
20:54
Speaker 2: getting a job and putting some money here and help
20:56
Speaker 2: us all out. And we've seen that different cultures as well.
21:00
Speaker 2: And then her trying to break that cycle, being like
21:03
Speaker 2: the generation that breaks that and being able to provide
21:07
Speaker 2: in a different way by investing into herself.
21:10
Speaker 3: I thought that was interesting.
21:11
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, And I think again a lot of us
21:16
Speaker 1: can relate to this. I've told the story before. I
21:19
Speaker 1: felt this pressure at my I was like, I'll marry
21:22
Speaker 1: somebody and have a kid and it'll make my parents happy.
21:24
Speaker 1: That's what I was thinking. I wasn't thinking about like
21:26
Speaker 1: do I want that, or like I was just like
21:29
Speaker 1: I just got to find some guys, which is horrible
21:33
Speaker 1: for this supposed guy, for me, for everyone. But that
21:38
Speaker 1: pressure is real. And when I tell you that line
21:40
Speaker 1: the mom said earlier that I mentioned earlier about like
21:43
Speaker 1: you owe me a grandkid, hit it like, oh my.
21:48
Speaker 2: God, right right, and like her reason for wanting a
21:52
Speaker 2: baby is because no one else will give her a baby.
21:56
Speaker 2: Are thinking she's pregnant, Like, oh damn. That's a whole
21:58
Speaker 2: different conversation, ma'am. And then, of course another thing is
22:01
Speaker 2: coming of age. This definitely was do you have this
22:03
Speaker 2: eighteen year old? And we've talked about this before. We've
22:06
Speaker 2: talked about with other movies, especially a lot of two
22:08
Speaker 2: thousands movies where you're transitioning from high school to college
22:12
Speaker 2: and that is such a big deal, like that era
22:15
Speaker 2: during that time, and I'm sure it's still like like
22:17
Speaker 2: we were talking about the whole high school dramas and
22:20
Speaker 2: then how they came about, and yes, oh, I have
22:23
Speaker 2: to go back because we said we wanted to do
22:25
Speaker 2: an episode I found out. I think they say they're
22:27
Speaker 2: saying that Beverly Hills nine o two. I know it
22:30
Speaker 2: was one of the first dramas like that. Yeah, high
22:33
Speaker 2: school dramas. But then I was like, what about safety
22:34
Speaker 2: about anyway, But the nineties and two thousands really were
22:38
Speaker 2: like thick with high school dramas because it was such
22:43
Speaker 2: a turning of the time for individuals especially. I don't
22:47
Speaker 2: know what it was in the nineties and two thousands,
22:50
Speaker 2: it felt big. I don't know if it came out
22:52
Speaker 2: of all of the media changing, like we're getting Internet
22:57
Speaker 2: and we're getting all those things, and so it just
22:59
Speaker 2: seemed bigger.
23:01
Speaker 3: Everything seemed more at our.
23:02
Speaker 2: Fingertips, but also seemed so far away, like these dreams
23:06
Speaker 2: that we thought we were supposed to have, it may
23:08
Speaker 2: not meet. Our perspective of growing up was no longer
23:13
Speaker 2: growing up, getting married and having children. It was now
23:16
Speaker 2: growing up, finding jobs, going adventuring, finding your soulmate, not
23:20
Speaker 2: just having like all these things.
23:22
Speaker 3: It changed. I feel like during that age.
23:25
Speaker 2: I don't know if there's boomers listening, let me know
23:28
Speaker 2: if you think that your generation was like that too.
23:31
Speaker 2: And it was just me in my own head because
23:33
Speaker 2: I'm from that generation. But there's so much in this
23:38
Speaker 2: that when we see Coming of Age, like it feels huge,
23:42
Speaker 2: and I think again, that's why this movie was felt
23:45
Speaker 2: so like it resonated with me and rewatching it really
23:48
Speaker 2: was like, oh.
23:50
Speaker 3: My god, look at that. First of all, look at
23:51
Speaker 3: that fashion by this come back round.
23:53
Speaker 2: Secondly, yeah, it felt huge because getting into college was
23:56
Speaker 2: a bigger deal than it is now. It's a huge deal,
24:01
Speaker 2: but it seems like it's gotten like up to the
24:03
Speaker 2: ante a little more, whereas all Ivy League that people
24:06
Speaker 2: really want to get into or like the higher level
24:08
Speaker 2: of education or where they can go. Maybe I'm maybe
24:11
Speaker 2: I'm just playing it on my head because for me
24:14
Speaker 2: getting into the University of Georgia, having that internet access
24:18
Speaker 2: with an email that had a little balloon. Oh yeah,
24:24
Speaker 2: balloons come up to show me that I had gotten
24:26
Speaker 2: accepted was huge. It felt life changing, Yeah, life changing.
24:31
Speaker 2: And so for her to experience this, it really was.
24:34
Speaker 2: But on top of that, yes, like you have this
24:37
Speaker 2: idea that you're supposed to experience all of these big
24:40
Speaker 2: firsts either at the end of your high school or
24:42
Speaker 2: at the beginning of college, and that's what.
24:44
Speaker 3: She felt like she had to do.
24:46
Speaker 2: But also accepting of herself because I'll tell you one thing,
24:49
Speaker 2: my confidence was not anywhere any of her confidence.
24:52
Speaker 3: I really wish I did have that confidence.
24:55
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, or learning to have that confidence, even if
24:58
Speaker 2: she was faking it, I really would.
25:00
Speaker 3: I gotta gone there.
25:01
Speaker 1: Oh I like it. One of the first scenes she
25:03
Speaker 1: goes and quits her job and I was like, duggamn girl.
25:10
Speaker 3: So she doesn't say that.
25:11
Speaker 1: It was excellent, Yeah, she she really did. It's kind
25:18
Speaker 1: of amazing because she was confident in the face of
25:21
Speaker 1: a lot of her mom, especially kind of telling her
25:25
Speaker 1: not to be, and she had like kind of a
25:29
Speaker 1: healthy anger about that, which I appreciated. She was confident
25:33
Speaker 1: about her body, which is so rare, and that was nice.
25:38
Speaker 1: And then yeah, I think you're right, because the like
25:43
Speaker 1: during the eighties and nineties, we got so many coming
25:45
Speaker 1: of age movies that we watched grew up with that
25:48
Speaker 1: said like, oh, you go to college and then your
25:52
Speaker 1: life you'll meet someone, or your life will change or
25:54
Speaker 1: whatever it will be. And so I think that was
25:56
Speaker 1: ingrained in a lot of our heads and then for
25:58
Speaker 1: a lot of us too, if you grew up somewhere
26:03
Speaker 1: in a small town, but it doesn't even necessarily have
26:05
Speaker 1: to be a small town, but like, college was the
26:07
Speaker 1: way to like I'm gonna I'm gonna get out of
26:10
Speaker 1: this right dynamic and try something else, which is scary
26:14
Speaker 1: and terrifying, but I think it is one of those
26:20
Speaker 1: really formative scary if this feels life changing, it's past
26:26
Speaker 1: this or pat this right, what are you gonna do?
26:28
Speaker 2: And for her it really was she knew and she
26:31
Speaker 2: said it if I start, And then the people that
26:34
Speaker 2: she worked with said it, if I start working here
26:36
Speaker 2: at this clothing shop, I'm never gonna get out, in
26:39
Speaker 2: which she says, I'm only here until I get a
26:41
Speaker 2: better job, and one of the other ladies like, yeah, okay,
26:45
Speaker 2: we said too, I'm only here I win the lottery.
26:47
Speaker 3: Like they say things like that.
26:49
Speaker 2: And this was a massive moment for her of like, Okay,
26:53
Speaker 2: if I say no to Columbia, that's it.
26:57
Speaker 3: I'm done. This is what I would be.
27:00
Speaker 2: And she had to make that choice and it was
27:02
Speaker 2: huge life changing choices. It also changed her relationship with
27:05
Speaker 2: her mom. I think it's going to be fixed, Like
27:07
Speaker 2: in my head, you know, seeing in the future, it'll
27:09
Speaker 2: be fixed because her mother's gonna be exceedingly proud and
27:11
Speaker 2: want to brag about what her daughter has accomplished. But
27:15
Speaker 2: these are life changing decisions for her moving to New
27:18
Speaker 2: York or not me moving to New York, oh my god,
27:21
Speaker 2: you know, even for again me for going to Athens
27:23
Speaker 2: versus trying to go to a local college. You know,
27:26
Speaker 2: there's massive things that happen that you never know, you know,
27:30
Speaker 2: making a choice of being a social worker versus being
27:33
Speaker 2: you know, like something else completely, Like all of these
27:35
Speaker 2: things are huge choices that you don't know what it's
27:38
Speaker 2: going to be. And then looking back down the road
27:39
Speaker 2: and be like, I wish I could have changed this.
27:41
Speaker 2: I would I'm glad I didn't do this. Like all
27:43
Speaker 2: of these things are huge parts and it really was
27:46
Speaker 2: a dynamic first, like the smaller things not so much
27:49
Speaker 2: when you realize grades don't matter, just the degree, and
27:52
Speaker 2: trying not to come out in.
27:54
Speaker 3: Debt and much debt. You know, all of those things
27:56
Speaker 3: are huge.
27:57
Speaker 2: But like that that conversation of like these are decisions
28:00
Speaker 2: that will make a difference in my life and coming
28:04
Speaker 2: of age is learning that you have to make those
28:06
Speaker 2: decisions really quickly.
28:09
Speaker 1: Yeah, pretty young.
28:10
Speaker 2: Yeah.
28:11
Speaker 1: One thing I thought about to you watching this is,
28:15
Speaker 1: you know when she her family is like you can't go.
28:20
Speaker 1: Her mom is like, what about your grandfather? And they
28:22
Speaker 1: have a really like tight knit family. She's moving across
28:26
Speaker 1: the country before there's like cell phones. It's not like
28:29
Speaker 1: she's gonna be able to like fly home that offer, right,
28:33
Speaker 1: So you know when I I also went somewhere that
28:36
Speaker 1: was like an hour away from my home where my
28:39
Speaker 1: parents were, I had a cell phone, like I could
28:42
Speaker 1: easily call them, But that like was an even bigger
28:46
Speaker 1: decision for her because yeah, she's gonna be across the
28:50
Speaker 1: country with no I mean, I guess you know there
28:53
Speaker 1: are phones, but it just doesn't feel as easy, right.
28:56
Speaker 2: Well. Also, if you don't have a lot of money,
28:59
Speaker 2: flying back, yeah is not a possibility, Like she can't
29:01
Speaker 2: just go home for the holidays, and she can't go home,
29:04
Speaker 2: you know, like all these things. She's going to try
29:06
Speaker 2: to find a job there and stay there and maintain there,
29:09
Speaker 2: Like it's gonna be a while. I've thought about this
29:11
Speaker 2: because going to Uga, I didn't go home often and
29:15
Speaker 2: I had to find a job at Uga, or like
29:17
Speaker 2: or I'd go home for the summer and had to
29:19
Speaker 2: find a job somewhere else.
29:20
Speaker 3: Like it's a signific decision. And yeah, it's only like
29:23
Speaker 3: an hour and forty five minutes away, George.
29:25
Speaker 2: Away, and it's felt like a huge change, Yeah, for
29:29
Speaker 2: so much, and going across country in itself, like going
29:31
Speaker 2: from LA to New York had.
29:32
Speaker 3: To be a culture shock. Oh yeah, you know, like
29:35
Speaker 3: going from Georgia to New York. We're still on the
29:36
Speaker 3: same side of the coast.
29:37
Speaker 2: But still that's significant obviously, so I couldn't imagine. Of course,
29:52
Speaker 2: we have to talk about the fact that they had
29:53
Speaker 2: to throw in the relationship, not throwing I do like
29:56
Speaker 2: that it's a sideline. Yeah, and it's not the majority
30:00
Speaker 2: of this, Like it's not the big part of who
30:02
Speaker 2: she is. It's more about her finding her own footing
30:05
Speaker 2: and being confident with this boy. It's not about this
30:08
Speaker 2: boy or want to stay with this boy or changing
30:10
Speaker 2: her mind for a boy. It was literally about all right,
30:13
Speaker 2: do I feel confident with you? How do I feel
30:16
Speaker 2: with you? And do you do I need to think
30:18
Speaker 2: all these things, like I love where she's like, I've
30:21
Speaker 2: written out topics for us to speak just in case
30:25
Speaker 2: we need.
30:26
Speaker 3: Help, like like things like that. I'm like, that is
30:28
Speaker 3: so honest.
30:29
Speaker 2: I don't know if I would have like I would
30:31
Speaker 2: have done it, but I don't know if I would
30:33
Speaker 2: have told them right right?
30:37
Speaker 1: And I do love I really do love their their
30:41
Speaker 1: sex scene where she just seems to like no, like, yep,
30:46
Speaker 1: I know this is not going to go anywhere. I'm
30:48
Speaker 1: good with it. I want to do it like she
30:50
Speaker 1: just has a good sense of right, I know what
30:53
Speaker 1: I want. That's all right.
30:55
Speaker 2: She prepared, got those condoms, she got on the condoms,
30:59
Speaker 2: she made sure that she he saw her. She's like,
31:02
Speaker 2: turned on the light. I want you to see what
31:03
Speaker 2: I look like. I want you to see who I am.
31:05
Speaker 2: And then her looking at herself like I can't do
31:09
Speaker 2: that today, forty something years old. I'm like, oh, turn't
31:12
Speaker 2: the light off no longer at me? Oh wait, you know,
31:15
Speaker 2: like there're so many things I don't want to look
31:16
Speaker 2: at myself, like I know it's my own confidence things. Yeah,
31:19
Speaker 2: I got this, but you know, like I love that
31:21
Speaker 2: for her, and I love that perspective. I think I'm
31:24
Speaker 2: trying to remember what I felt when I saw that.
31:26
Speaker 2: I think I just felt like shock.
31:29
Speaker 3: I was like, what is what is she doing?
31:31
Speaker 2: What?
31:32
Speaker 3: Turn the all lights off?
31:35
Speaker 1: In my head?
31:35
Speaker 3: I'm like, what are you doing?
31:36
Speaker 2: But it was, it was it was like looking back
31:38
Speaker 2: at it now, as if to look at my old self,
31:42
Speaker 2: I wish I could have been that, you know, like
31:44
Speaker 2: really being confident because she's honest, and honesty in itself
31:50
Speaker 2: is such a strength, you know, and protection and speaking
31:54
Speaker 2: of it.
31:54
Speaker 3: Yeah.
31:54
Speaker 2: Body image was a huge part of this conversation, obviously,
31:58
Speaker 2: as her mother is just chasing her down the road,
32:00
Speaker 2: telling her she needs to stop, but she's too fat,
32:02
Speaker 2: these things, she doesn't look like a lady, all of
32:05
Speaker 2: these things. That was constant heart telling Estella that her
32:09
Speaker 2: telling all the workers there except for that one girl
32:13
Speaker 2: who was somewhat skinny and getting married, like that was
32:16
Speaker 2: the only girl in the entirety of the place that
32:19
Speaker 2: her mother approved of.
32:21
Speaker 1: Yeah, some of the things she said was pretty shock.
32:24
Speaker 1: I have to admit because this was my first time
32:26
Speaker 1: watching it, and I was like it was less than
32:30
Speaker 1: it was shocking, but it didn't stop. It was a
32:34
Speaker 1: non stop.
32:35
Speaker 3: It was.
32:38
Speaker 2: Like wow, wow, wow, And I know, like people have
32:41
Speaker 2: actually experienced this for sure.
32:43
Speaker 3: I don't know.
32:44
Speaker 2: I'm assuming for the writer this was something very personal
32:47
Speaker 2: and that's something she has heard. We know during a
32:51
Speaker 2: certain time, it feels like we're being attacked. Hopefully, you know,
32:55
Speaker 2: some women today, a lot of women today deal with
32:58
Speaker 2: a trauma that was due to up like this. But
33:02
Speaker 2: I do love the fact again that Anna comes back
33:05
Speaker 2: and she is like, look, woman, you birthed us, that
33:10
Speaker 2: you are part of the reason we look like this, and.
33:14
Speaker 3: You don't look much better. I don't understand why you're
33:17
Speaker 3: talking to me like this.
33:19
Speaker 1: Yeah, she's I mean, she came out of the fire
33:25
Speaker 1: like fortune too, something tougher than I would have been,
33:28
Speaker 1: but she was ready right with those those comebacks and like.
33:34
Speaker 3: No, yeah, I think.
33:36
Speaker 2: Part of this is also her confidence with her grandfather
33:39
Speaker 2: and her dad like doting on her and call like
33:42
Speaker 2: you can tell the grandfather loves everything about her. He
33:45
Speaker 2: calls her like his uh you know, pretty princess, all
33:49
Speaker 2: these things, and when she has grown up and feeling
33:51
Speaker 2: a little more confident because of them, thank god, thank god.
33:57
Speaker 2: But with that an understanding, I think like when you
34:00
Speaker 2: have the crossover where she did. She came into Beverly
34:04
Speaker 2: Hills High School, she had to work to get to there,
34:06
Speaker 2: she has to travel, and she has to do this
34:08
Speaker 2: all on her own.
34:08
Speaker 3: This is her own initiatives. No one's helping her.
34:11
Speaker 2: As in fact, her mother was kind of holding her
34:12
Speaker 2: back and be like, you need to stay, you need
34:14
Speaker 2: to cook breakfast for the boys because I don't feel well,
34:16
Speaker 2: and she's like, nah, I gotta go to school. This
34:18
Speaker 2: was my last day of school. I don't know what
34:20
Speaker 2: you're thinking.
34:20
Speaker 3: I gotta go. And like, although everybody.
34:23
Speaker 2: Was kind of like, uh, not cool, mom, they were
34:27
Speaker 2: kind of just letting it be until Anna like stands
34:30
Speaker 2: up for herself and they're like, yeah, yeah, yeah, we
34:32
Speaker 2: got this. Go to school, go to school again, allowing
34:35
Speaker 2: for the mother to also go after a stella again.
34:38
Speaker 2: In this midst of this conversation, which Stilla had nothing
34:41
Speaker 2: to do with it, She's like, why am I getting?
34:44
Speaker 2: What is this friendly fire? I don't understand, But like
34:47
Speaker 2: having all of that and being able to stand up
34:49
Speaker 2: for herself and knowing what she wanted and working hard
34:52
Speaker 2: for it even if she didn't know if it was
34:54
Speaker 2: going to end go anywhere Like that was one of
34:57
Speaker 2: the things. But again having the confidence to call the boy.
35:02
Speaker 2: I loved that scene too, calling him hanging up you
35:05
Speaker 2: land lines those times, Oh.
35:10
Speaker 3: Oh no, I like use her grandpa helping her go
35:16
Speaker 3: on a date. Super cute.
35:18
Speaker 2: Yeah, like cover to cover talking about her breasts. He's like,
35:25
Speaker 2: she's like, are you looking at my boobs? And he's
35:27
Speaker 2: like yeah, yeah, like.
35:31
Speaker 1: No, yes, no, what's the right answer, right.
35:34
Speaker 2: And then coming back and like being like the pretty
35:36
Speaker 2: big boobs, so you should be looking like it was
35:39
Speaker 2: a fantastic role and and America Ferrara, I really felt
35:43
Speaker 2: like she made sure to be a part of this
35:46
Speaker 2: conversation from jump from this to Ugly Betty, like we've
35:50
Speaker 2: seen her play these roles with confidence. The Sisterhood of
35:53
Speaker 2: Traveling Pants, I think that was all. I've never seen those.
35:56
Speaker 3: Have you seen those?
35:58
Speaker 2: I feel like that's a movie that we should be
35:59
Speaker 2: what we should This is out in my generation because
36:02
Speaker 2: it's younger.
36:03
Speaker 1: My friends loved it.
36:04
Speaker 2: Yeah to y'all's age, So I was like, it wasn't
36:07
Speaker 2: necessarily in my time range, but like for our show, we.
36:11
Speaker 3: Probably should watch. It'd be new to both of us.
36:17
Speaker 2: But I mean, Ferrara really portrays this confident role no
36:24
Speaker 2: matter what she is and making sure that we understand
36:28
Speaker 2: it is perfectly normal to look normal. And that's the
36:34
Speaker 2: thing is, like none of these things are conversations about
36:36
Speaker 2: her being big she's it shouldn't be because she's really not.
36:41
Speaker 2: And we talked about this a long time ago in
36:43
Speaker 2: an episode we talked about, you know, what does look
36:45
Speaker 2: like to be a normal body? You know in a
36:48
Speaker 2: world that seems to either celebrate or pay attention to
36:51
Speaker 2: the extremes, right or making it extremes when it's just normal.
36:59
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, And this is still ongoing conversation. And
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Speaker 1: I think, like this was really great in showing a
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Speaker 1: wide showcase of different body types, but that should be
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Speaker 1: the that should be the norm, because it's true, like
37:21
Speaker 1: I have plenty of friends who are women in don't
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Speaker 1: really have curves, and I have plenty of friends who
37:27
Speaker 1: have very big curves. People in the middle. It's a
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Speaker 1: whole range of bondy, right, It's.
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Speaker 2: A whole thing, which is like, you did a great
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Speaker 2: job in portraying in that workshop moment where they all
37:39
Speaker 2: start taking things off to talk about their flaws, like
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Speaker 2: it was such a wonderful moment. I really think that's
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Speaker 2: one of the things that really broke the bearer and
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Speaker 2: in that conversation and everybody was like every woman was
37:52
Speaker 2: like yep, yep, been there, ye doing the flabby dance,
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Speaker 2: like doing all of those.
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Speaker 1: Things you want to see cell.
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Speaker 3: Look at these stretch marks.
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Speaker 2: It's a beautiful conversation and America for ours character, Anna
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Speaker 2: is celebrating at all, well, everybody is like yeah, yeah, yeah,
38:13
Speaker 2: like uplifting each other but tearing their own selves down.
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Speaker 2: It's such a classic moment, and I think it did
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Speaker 2: an amazing job and making something really realistic but humorous
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Speaker 2: but also like heartfelt.
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Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, that seems really lovely because the reason they
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Speaker 1: took off their clothes was because it was so hot
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Speaker 1: and they weren't allowed to use fan because it would
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Speaker 1: get dust on the dresses. But I like that she
38:39
Speaker 1: just kind of was like, well, all right, take off
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Speaker 1: my clothes then, and the other it's like she's a
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Speaker 1: younger person who's sort of leading the older generation like, yeah, come.
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Speaker 3: On, come on now, but I do.
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Speaker 2: I mean, I did feel bad because she's steaming things
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Speaker 2: and so under like the hottest portion of work and
38:58
Speaker 2: so no wonder she was like, I'm dying.
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Speaker 3: I may have a hate stroke.
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Speaker 2: Like fair, No, that was that's intense in an area
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Speaker 2: that doesn't have hardly any air conditioning in LA with
39:09
Speaker 2: no fan.
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Speaker 1: Right, yeah, yep, oh.
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Speaker 2: But yes, I forgot how great this movie is. I
39:15
Speaker 2: think it is really touching, and I think it's a
39:17
Speaker 2: great film for young kids.
39:20
Speaker 3: Like again, I watched this.
39:22
Speaker 2: It came out when I was twenty something, but I
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Speaker 2: think it's such a good conversation to have for those
39:27
Speaker 2: who are looking at the next steps of life and
39:29
Speaker 2: just a great story to be told. Yeah.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, I really liked it too. Like I said, I
39:36
Speaker 1: thought it was so great. It was. It was one
39:40
Speaker 1: of those things where I was like, oh, everything's not
39:43
Speaker 1: solved at the end, because a lot of times those
39:45
Speaker 1: movies are great when you get to the end and
39:47
Speaker 1: you're like, yes, I love this, But sometimes it's nice
39:49
Speaker 1: because that doesn't usually happen to most of us to
39:52
Speaker 1: see things that it's It wasn't horrible by any means
39:55
Speaker 1: it was pretty good, but it's still like not everything
39:58
Speaker 1: was solved or figured out. That's where you are at
40:00
Speaker 1: that point in your life usually like you're figuring things
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Speaker 1: out right, Yeah, And.
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Speaker 2: I forgot to mention at the front that this obviously
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Speaker 2: is a story about a Mexican immigrant family who is
40:13
Speaker 2: just telling their story and what it's like being in
40:15
Speaker 2: the us LA and trying to make it acclimate into
40:20
Speaker 2: a situation where it doesn't always feel welcoming, but you know,
40:24
Speaker 2: with your family, and so not only are you navigating that,
40:28
Speaker 2: you're navigating your family life in a new culture. So,
40:31
Speaker 2: like all of those things is beautiful and I think
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Speaker 2: it's a great way to tell the story. I think
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Speaker 2: they did an amazing job in telling this and having
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Speaker 2: this conversation.
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Speaker 1: Yes, yes, and as you said, it has one a
40:42
Speaker 1: lot of rewards. You can look it up, but it's
40:45
Speaker 1: gotten a lot of recognition rightfully. So well, listeners, please
40:51
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