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- 0:00Joe Bitcoin OG Adam Back just went on the national news and
- 0:05dropped a number of bombshells about the current 2025 bull run.
- 0:10Are we repeating what happened in 2017, or is the price being
- 0:15suppressed like what happened in 2021?
- 0:19In my nine years in the Bitcoin space, I've never seen a bull
- 0:23run where thousands of corporations and institutions
- 0:27are tripping over themselves to buy Bitcoin.
- 0:30And yet here we are. And not only corporations and
- 0:33institutions, nation states as well.
- 0:36Let's begin by diving down the rabbit hole and check out the
- 0:40clip. Here we go.
- 0:42Well, it's, it's hard to predict the timing, but I think we're
- 0:46certainly in the early stages of a bull market at this point.
- 0:50Typically the bull market cycle lasts for a certain period after
- 0:55the halving and so we're still in the earner innings.
- 0:58I think there's very stiff inflows from ETFs buying about
- 1:03two times the Bitcoin mines per day, MicroStrategy and the other
- 1:07Bitcoin treasury companies buying another two times and the
- 1:10retail buyers and dollar cost average investors.
- 1:13So really there's a lot of inflow.
- 1:15I think, you know, temporarily there's some consolidation
- 1:18because some earlier investors sort of midterm investors profit
- 1:22taking. But you know, that overlay would
- 1:25set us up for, you know, a, a price where you start to see
- 1:29Bitcoin competing with gold, perhaps pulling money out of
- 1:32gold ETFs into Bitcoin ETFs. And then of course, if the
- 1:36treasuries come in like the sovereign treasuries, the
- 1:39Bitcoin reserves, that would be something where you'd see
- 1:42sovereign competition. And as soon as one of the bigger
- 1:45countries jumps in, I think the others will feel forced to
- 1:48follow suit. So that would, you know, all
- 1:50bets will be off if that happens.
- 1:53Now, of course, institutional adoption, I think the family
- 1:56offices are faster and more agile, but the institutions are
- 1:59in play. You can see that the ETF 13 F
- 2:04filings, which shows you the institutions that have bought
- 2:06Bitcoin by the ETFs is about 30% institutional.
- 2:10I think there's a lot more capital in the institutional
- 2:12space of pension funds and mutual funds.
- 2:14So there's a lot of room for capital to come in, you know?
- 2:21OK, a couple thoughts. First of all, Opti's with me in
- 2:24the flesh today and of course we got Bitcoin Q&A from Foundation.
- 2:29They make awesome hardware wallets like the Passport and
- 2:32we're going to be making a special announcement on today's
- 2:35show. A couple quick thoughts before
- 2:37we get into discussion. Michael Saylor today was at C
- 2:41PAC, which is a mainstream kind of political convention.
- 2:48Could not have imagined that in a million years.
- 2:50It was actually Senator Cynthia Lummus who retweeted it.
- 2:53And I saw it. I was like, oh, my God, Another
- 2:55thing, Adam Back is on the floor of Wall Street.
- 2:59Like what? What is Adam Back doing there?
- 3:02I think both those examples are testaments to where we are,
- 3:07where Bitcoin adoption is. I think we're on the verge of
- 3:12entering mainstream consciousness in terms of
- 3:14Bitcoin, the ideas of Bitcoin Sailor's speech from C PAC, like
- 3:19literally gave me chills because he was talking about Satoshi, he
- 3:23was talking about broken money. And of course you have Adam
- 3:27back. And, and I got to say Opti
- 3:29simply has better audio than CNBC because holy cow, you could
- 3:33barely hear Adam back with all the people in the in the
- 3:35background. But yeah, I think he was making
- 3:38some incredible points. But also I want to share
- 3:41something with you guys because a lot of things kind of don't
- 3:46make sense in, in, in a lot of ways, because it it, it, it, it
- 3:51does feel weird. It does feel weird in the sense
- 3:54that like supposedly we have all these, you know, corporations,
- 3:59all companies buying Bitcoin and you know, why is the price going
- 4:05sideways? We've been going sideways since
- 4:08November. This doesn't make any sense,
- 4:11right? I actually asked Samson Mao this
- 4:13question when we did. And by the way, should be
- 4:15dropping on Saturday. We did an interview on top of
- 4:18Volcano in El Salvador. I said man, like, look, all this
- 4:21bullish news embrace like it being Bitcoin being embraced by
- 4:25governments, being Bitcoin being embraced by institutions like
- 4:29why is the price going sideways? Here's Samson Mal Bitcoin OG
- 4:33right part of block stream originally.
- 4:35Now he has Jan 3 and he says everyone can feel something is
- 4:38off with the huge disconnect between buy side demand and the
- 4:43price. Everyone could say can see
- 4:45something is off by looking at the price going sideways for
- 4:48days within a tight range. Not everyone is willing to say
- 4:52the words price suppression, though.
- 4:55Here's a quote. It seems like it's it's some
- 4:58sort of price suppression. The quoting Samson, if you look
- 5:00at the price movement, we peak and then we stay steady and chop
- 5:04sideways. It's good.
- 5:05You can say it's consolidation, but it looks very manufactured.
- 5:09I actually asked this question to James Lavish a couple days
- 5:12ago. I dropped that pod, I think it
- 5:15was on Saturday said like, you know, what's going on?
- 5:17Is this captured by Wall Street? Like, you know, this doesn't
- 5:21make any sense. Like supposedly you have all
- 5:23this buying and the price isn't going up.
- 5:27Now the argument that I heard, and I just heard Adam back say
- 5:30it on the interview it's on CNBC, was basically along the
- 5:34lines of like you have O GS that bought Bitcoin under $1000 and
- 5:39they're selling a lot of it. The moment that I got to 100K.
- 5:42Think about it, for them, that's more than 100 X they've been
- 5:46holding for a decade. You know, they want to, they
- 5:48want to upgrade their lifestyles.
- 5:49That makes sense. But at the same time, like with
- 5:51the, the amount, the quantity of Bitcoin that MicroStrategy is
- 5:56buying, that these institutions are buying.
- 5:59I, I, you know, it's just common sense.
- 6:03Like I kind of agree with Samsung.
- 6:04Not everyone agrees. Checkmate.
- 6:06He has a different opinion. Here is Sam Callahan.
- 6:09He does amazing analysis and he says I dug through the 13 F
- 6:13filings and by my count there were 1573 institutions with long
- 6:20exposure to Bitcoin and Q 4/20/24.
- 6:23These include banks, hedge funds, Rias, family offices,
- 6:28endowments, pensions, sovereign wealth funds, and other asset
- 6:32managers. Before we get into it, I want to
- 6:34clarify what A13F filing actually is.
- 6:38Every quarter, Larger investment firms must submit this form to
- 6:42the SEC disclosing their holdings of U.S. stocks and
- 6:46equity related assets such as ETFSREITS, options and
- 6:52convertible bonds. What's important to understand
- 6:55is A13F filing only contains a firm's long positions in U.S.
- 7:00equity related assets. So it excludes assets like
- 7:03bonds, real estate, commodities, precious metals, private
- 7:07investments, futures, spot, Bitcoin, cash, foreign equities,
- 7:11currencies, short positions. As a result, A13F provides an
- 7:15incomplete picture of a firm's total portfolio.
- 7:19We don't know a firm's position in other asset classes relative
- 7:23to its allocation to U.S. equity related assets, nor do we know
- 7:28if a long position is just serving as a hedge against a
- 7:31short position elsewhere. I bring this up because I'll be
- 7:34discussing Bitcoin position sizes in these filings, but keep
- 7:38in mind they reflect only the firm's U.S. equity allocation.
- 7:43So he goes on to list a couple. Abu Dhabi discloses $437 million
- 7:49stake in BlackRock Spot Bitcoin ETF that goes on to say with
- 7:55this in mind, the median Bitcoin position across all institutions
- 7:58in this filings was only .13%. We're still early that's tiny
- 8:04and bullish. It suggests Bitcoin is still in
- 8:07the very early innings of institutional adoption.
- 8:10Remember reminder, BlackRock recently recommended A1 to 2%
- 8:15allocation. It goes on to say, but there
- 8:17were a handful of these investment firms that had larger
- 8:20Bitcoin allocations than their peers, and they also just happen
- 8:24to be run by some of the best money managers with proven track
- 8:27record. Here are some of the most
- 8:29interesting filings that caught my eye.
- 8:31First Horizon Kinetics. Horizon Kinetics second largest
- 8:35position is BTC 16.16% with a $1.3 billion exposure.
- 8:43Second up Brace Bridge Capital its largest position is BTC
- 8:4923.6% with $334 million worth of exposure #3 I mean this should
- 8:57be pretty obvious. Tudor Investment Corp, We've all
- 9:00heard Paul Tudor Jones talk about Bitcoin for a very long
- 9:03time now. Tudor's largest position is BTC
- 9:07with 1.625% with a $436 million worth of exposure.
- 9:14Fortress Investment Group, its fourth largest position is BTC
- 9:19with 11.2% worth 70 million worth of exposure #5 Brevan
- 9:26Howard, its second largest position is BTC 8.74% with $1.4
- 9:32billion worth of exposure. Discovery Capital Management,
- 9:37its 5th largest position is BTC 4.6% with $68 million worth of
- 9:43exposure. And it continues.
- 9:45The point that I'm trying to make though, is one of the
- 9:49coping narratives that we used in 2017 when the price was
- 9:53falling, it peaked AT20K, fell down to 3500.
- 9:58In 2018. It was, it was a terrible bear
- 10:01market. We're like the institutions are
- 10:02coming. The institutions are coming.
- 10:04No, they were never coming. But the institutions without a
- 10:07shadow of a doubt are here. And the catalyst was the
- 10:11approval of the Spot Bitcoin ETF and the fact that the ETF, the
- 10:16Bitcoin ETFs, have been the best performing ETFs in history.
- 10:22So make no mistake, what is happening in the background is
- 10:26that Wall Street institutions, corporations, pension funds are
- 10:31all stacking a ridiculous amount of Bitcoin.
- 10:35But I do agree with Samson, if that's the case, why is the
- 10:39price going sideways? Are there that many whales that
- 10:43are just like, you know what? I've held Bitcoin for 10 years.
- 10:46I bought it at 300. I'm sick of it.
- 10:49I'm just going to sell it. Like, is that the argument that
- 10:52that's being made? And last but not least, I want
- 10:55to do this, this comparison, because I have been talking for
- 10:58a while and I want to get Q&A's thoughts and Opti's thoughts.
- 11:01Let's do a cycle comparison, right?
- 11:05So of course you have era one. I'm going to take away era one
- 11:09'cause you know it's era one is obviously it's in the early
- 11:13innings of Bitcoin's history. The market cap was so small, the
- 11:17volatility was obviously going to be really high.
- 11:19Let's compare the last three eras, right?
- 11:21So of course you have the bull market of 2024-2025.
- 11:25You have the bull market of 2020 and 2021 and then you have the
- 11:30where me and Opti come from the bull market of 20/16/2017,
- 11:34right. So if you look at 2021, we would
- 11:38be a lot higher in the 2021. If we were living on the 2021,
- 11:44you know, time scale, we would be significantly higher.
- 11:47I think we would be at a yeah, like the multiple.
- 11:51The multiple is literally two times as much, right?
- 11:55It actually looks a lot more similar to the 2017 era.
- 12:00There was points in this cycle that Bitcoin actually got ahead
- 12:05of the 2017 era. And if you look at it right now,
- 12:08I mean, they look pretty similar.
- 12:10I think Bitcoin is on the verge of, of, of a pump.
- 12:14I, I, I, I think I wouldn't be surprised if, if, if Bitcoin
- 12:17goes upwards, right? So, yeah, I mean, what's going
- 12:20on is the price being suppressed.
- 12:21We know these institutions, solutions are, are adopting it.
- 12:24And if you take a look at where Sailor is talking, where Adam
- 12:29Back is talking, I mean, they literally got Adam back on
- 12:34CNNBC. He's on the floor of CNNBC and
- 12:36he's being interviewed. Five years ago, I don't think
- 12:38people would know who Adam Back was, right?
- 12:42Michael Saylor on a keynote at C PAC.
- 12:45This is the most popular conservative convention in the
- 12:48United States and Michael Saylor is a keynote speaker.
- 12:53That should tell you everything you need to know.
- 12:55So why the F is the price not going up?
- 12:58That's my question anyways. I'm going to start off with OPTI
- 13:01and then of course, let's pass it on to Q&A.
- 13:04Let's pass it on to Q and AQ and AI know you're a self custody
- 13:07guy. I know that this is the price
- 13:10stuff is might maybe might not interest you, but why is number
- 13:14not going up? That is a very, very good
- 13:18question. I like to to keep it as simple
- 13:20as possible. Is there price suppression going
- 13:24on? I think ultimately we're
- 13:25probably never going to know unless there's a huge scandal
- 13:28that potentially comes out one day.
- 13:30But I like to keep it simple. I think, you know, if we're
- 13:32going sideways, then we're around that big mental model
- 13:35number of 100K like you suggested earlier and you know,
- 13:38that will trigger a lot of people to sell.
- 13:41So the fact that we're going sideways, I like to just think,
- 13:43you know, there's probably just an equal match or roughly
- 13:45thereabouts of buyers and sellers.
- 13:48However, with that said, the more and more big players that
- 13:52we get in, you know, you've just been talking about what strategy
- 13:54up to. There's pension funds left,
- 13:56right and centre. There's talk of strategic
- 13:58Bitcoin reserves. There's talk of states,
- 14:00individual states almost by the day putting forward bills to buy
- 14:05Bitcoin at the moment. The more and more big kind of
- 14:08regulated players that we get coming into the space and buying
- 14:12larger and larger amounts of Bitcoin, the bigger the
- 14:15incentive there is for people that have the the powers to be
- 14:18able to manipulate the markets to do so, in my opinion.
- 14:20So I think potentially if there is manipulation going on right
- 14:24now, then the incentive to make that continue is, is probably
- 14:29only going to grow. 100% I also see our our buddy BTC sessions
- 14:33in the chat. Ben, I might rope you in to do
- 14:36the show with me tomorrow here. We'll fit three of us three of
- 14:40us on the table. But no, I completely agree.
- 14:43There's obviously there's buyers and sellers right?
- 14:45Like that's why The thing is going sideways.
- 14:47But like who are all these sellers?
- 14:49That's what I want to know like it must have been a lot of O GS
- 14:53that were just they're sick of it.
- 14:54I mean think about that. That journey psychologically
- 14:58must have been rough, bro. Like going from, you know, sub
- 15:04$1000 Bitcoin to $100,000 Bitcoin, Like it's like you went
- 15:10to war and came back like you're a changed person.
- 15:14The amount of volatility you went through, the amount of, you
- 15:17know, the hacks and like the fact that if you made it over
- 15:20the finish line with your coins intact, you know, is, is
- 15:24definitely pretty crazy. But anyhow, Opti, what's your
- 15:28take here, bro? I know, I know where you're
- 15:30going to go with this. Is the Bitcoin price being
- 15:33suppressed bro? Well, I mean, I'm not against
- 15:37the idea. I obviously hold that idea in my
- 15:39head. I think we all kind of have to
- 15:42think about that, especially kind of what Q&A was saying.
- 15:44It's like we got to remember Bitcoin's a $2 trillion market
- 15:47cap right now. It's still very tiny in the
- 15:50grand schemes of global market. So obviously, as Q&A was saying,
- 15:54if there's an incentive to keep the price low, suppress the
- 15:57price and people are going to do that.
- 15:59But at a certain point, once Bitcoin gets big enough, then
- 16:02they won't be able to move the markets.
- 16:03And remember, like Bitcoin is basically what the size of one
- 16:07of the larger corporations in the world right now.
- 16:09So it's not tiny, but there's still a capability of a lot of
- 16:13people with capital. And this is a global market to
- 16:15kind of keep the price low. I've been kind of doing, you
- 16:17know, as the reigning 45 IQ person on the show, I've been
- 16:21kind of thinking, you know, the billionaire FUD playbook, you
- 16:23kind of FUD it. You keep the price low so you
- 16:25can pack your bags and get your position.
- 16:27And then once you know, you get that position, you start to pump
- 16:29Bitcoin. And we're starting to see people
- 16:31come out there and publicly shield Bitcoin, which is very,
- 16:34very interesting, especially when you kind of look at those
- 16:37numbers that Sam Callahan was saying.
- 16:39And the big one that stuck out to me was obviously over 1500
- 16:43corporations having Bitcoin ETF exposure.
- 16:45Obviously we kind of consider that paper Bitcoin.
- 16:48We want them to hold the real thing.
- 16:49But you know, there, there's some loopholes that they have to
- 16:52go through, hence why it's easier for them to hold ETS,
- 16:54etcetera. But the big, big number to me
- 16:57was that number where he said if you average out or the median
- 17:01holding size of all these corporations only .13%.
- 17:05And as he said, you know BlackRock is recommending 1 to
- 17:082%. So all I'm hearing is we are
- 17:11still super early in people understanding what Bitcoin is.
- 17:15Obviously it's the first, what, second month of the year.
- 17:19And with all the things that Adam Back was saying, it's, it
- 17:22is kind of interesting that we aren't seeing the price go
- 17:26absolutely nuclear. But I think it's only a matter
- 17:29of time. And, and like I was telling
- 17:30everyone in the chat, it's like, I think we all have to kind of
- 17:32lower our, our time preference here a little bit.
- 17:34We got to be a little patient. You know, they yell at us for
- 17:36starting a little late. I'm like, hey, you guys claim to
- 17:38be bit corners and yet we get super impatient on things that
- 17:42don't happen right now. But when we really zoom out, you
- 17:44know, 10 years from now, I'm sure we're going to look back at
- 17:47100K and be like, man, I wish I bought more when it was going
- 17:50sideways for that three months. Like now it's a million plus and
- 17:54I can't get as much. Bars.
- 17:55Bars. No, I think that's definitely,
- 17:58definitely a lot of wisdom there, right?
- 17:59We're gonna be we're definitely gonna be looking at these
- 18:02prices, you know, wait, we got a comment.
- 18:04DB says the markets are not being suppressed.
- 18:07Anyone attempting to pull off such a feat would be taking way
- 18:10too much risk for almost no gain.
- 18:13DB, you wanna, you wanna elaborate a little bit on that?
- 18:15What you mean by that? But it seems like you have a
- 18:18deeper understanding of the markets.
- 18:20I think he's. Saying that, you know if they're
- 18:22if. They're selling in the chat.
- 18:24Let's ask the chat guys. If you think the Bitcoin price
- 18:27is being suppressed, drop one in the chat.
- 18:29If you think the Bitcoin price is not being suppressed, drop 2
- 18:33in the chat. Let us know your thoughts.
- 18:37Brandon B says the manipulation is from the market makers.
- 18:40It's completely natural though. Seems like a lot of people know
- 18:44about markets in the chat W being late the patient will win
- 18:50Brandon BZ logic says 1 so yes again, if you think the markets
- 18:55are being suppressed press 1. The Bitcoin price is being
- 18:58suppressed press 1. If you think the Bitcoin price
- 19:00isn't being suppressed press 2 let us know and of course smash
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- 19:19We have a hell of a show lined up for you guys.
- 19:21We have two videos of Trump, of course, taking credit for the
- 19:26Bitcoin price pumping. And on Air Force One, there's a
- 19:30video of Trump literally saying they're going to audit for Knox.
- 19:36Is the gold there? Is the gold not there?
- 19:38I personally think it's not there.
- 19:40And during the news segment, we actually have a very interesting
- 19:43story for you guys. It's a quick up update about the
- 19:47Nigerian central bank digital currency.
- 19:50The failure there was a Binance executive that was arrested
- 19:54because essentially the government was frustrated that
- 19:57people weren't using the CBDC. That executive was freed.
- 20:02So quick update there. All right, sorry about that
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- 21:27What was the last thing I was saying?
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- 25:09Bitcoin price is 97,960 block height 884,601 sets per dollar
- 25:171000 1021 market cap 1.94 trillion Bitcoin verse gold
- 25:23market cap 9.37% Percentage issued 94.41% declined from all
- 25:29time high -10.3% check this out Opti realize monetary inflation
- 25:35continues to go down .98%. Holy cow man continuing to
- 25:41embarrass Fiat currencies. Anyways, quick orange man
- 25:46update. I mean, that's what it is so
- 25:51interesting things like and I don't know which one should we
- 25:55should start with. Let's start with Fort Knox
- 25:56because we did an episode on that the other day.
- 25:59We're. Going to go into Fort Knox to
- 26:01make sure the gold is there. You know that we're going to go
- 26:04into Fort Knox. Do you know about that?
- 26:08That was that bad bump. Are they going to eliminate more
- 26:12national security positions, civilians there?
- 26:14We'll see what happens. One of the things we do want to
- 26:17look at me, we hope everything's fine with Fort Knox, but we're
- 26:20going to go to Fort Knox, the fable Fort Knox, to make sure
- 26:23the gold is there. No wonder they dude like, no
- 26:32wonder they wanted to kill this dude.
- 26:35Like, like, no wonder, bro, he wants to get rid of the IRS.
- 26:38The doge thing was absolutely crazy.
- 26:41He freed Ross, right? He's talking about strategic
- 26:44Bitcoin Reserve and now he wants to find out if the gold is
- 26:47actually at Fort Knox. Like, I mean, bro, like, you
- 26:51know, no wonder. Anyways, here's another video of
- 26:54President Trump and let's check it out.
- 26:58He's talking about Bitcoin. Jones Industrial Average is up
- 27:022200 points and Bitcoin has set multiple all time record highs.
- 27:07Because everyone knows that I'm committed to making America the
- 27:10crypto capital. We want to stay.
- 27:13We want to stay at the forefront of everything and one of them is
- 27:16crypto. And Miami seems to be the centre
- 27:20of the action, come to think of it.
- 27:25As a fellow Miamian, no, you talk about Bitcoin As a fellow
- 27:30Miamian, no, Miami is not the capital of Bitcoin.
- 27:35I would say it's either Nash or or Austin and and different
- 27:39things. But, I mean, he looked to be
- 27:42fair, to be fair. OK Bitcoin pumped like crazy the
- 27:49moment that everyone found out the election results right
- 27:52under, you know, the previous administration, without a shadow
- 27:56of a doubt, they were attacking the industry as soon as the
- 28:00markets figured out that Trump was going to get elected, You
- 28:04know, it was like trying to hold a beach ball underwater.
- 28:07Like, yeah, as soon as that pressure was released, it just
- 28:11went bananas. So it like, say whatever you
- 28:16want to say about him, technically, he's technically
- 28:20he's right. The price did pump because he
- 28:22won the election. Like technically he's right.
- 28:26And in the Fort Knox thing, man, like dude, like no wonder, like
- 28:30no wonder they hated this guy. No wonder the media attacked
- 28:32this guy. Could you imagine if they like
- 28:36Elon does a live stream goes to Fort Knox, you know, he goes and
- 28:43opens the vaults and there's no gold.
- 28:45Like dude, that would be one of the I don't think they would
- 28:48allow I I don't think, I don't think Trump would would do that.
- 28:51I don't think Trump would do that.
- 28:53Well, I mean, first of all, I don't mean to jump in here, but
- 28:55I don't even think a video of the Fort Knox vault would
- 28:58justify even an audit. Like, to me, it that that
- 29:01doesn't mean anything. It's like, yeah, maybe, you
- 29:03know, they it could be fake. Gold.
- 29:05It could be fake gold just on. A video, it's like literally
- 29:08how, you know, we have Q&A here, you know, and talking about
- 29:11privacy and you know, using a Zoom call to verify the gold's
- 29:15there like that, that that won't do anything that that is, you
- 29:19know, it, it makes us feel good until we get an actual, you
- 29:23know, auditor in there to assail the gold, make sure that it's
- 29:27actually what it is. Or as someone was telling us in
- 29:29the chat, you know, scan the bars, make sure it's actually
- 29:32all gold. A video is not enough for me
- 29:35personally to believe that it's there.
- 29:37But, you know, even if we did see it, I guess that would quell
- 29:40some of the concerns around. Though I did hear kind of an
- 29:43interesting take on Twitter. And this is going into like
- 29:46conspiracy theory land. But someone was saying, what if
- 29:49they did do a video call Fort Knox?
- 29:52And it's not that all the gold's gone, but there's actually more
- 29:55gold in the vault than they claim to have.
- 29:58And the people would wonder. Well.
- 30:00Where did they get all that gold?
- 30:01I don't know. Hey, I'm just, you know,
- 30:03relaying some stuff I heard on Twitter, but going to the next
- 30:07clip before I pass it over to QA because, you know, as you can
- 30:09hear Q as got a a very beautiful accent here.
- 30:12So maybe he doesn't care so much about Fort Knox like we do.
- 30:15But the Trump clip about Bitcoin, there's a few things
- 30:18that I want to mention. First of all is there's been a
- 30:21lot of people in the chat saying recently like, oh, he's a
- 30:24politician. You know, he's just talking his
- 30:26book. He's just making you feel good.
- 30:28He's just sending you some red meat to the audience.
- 30:30He knows that people are interested in Bitcoin or
- 30:33interested in crypto, and this is the only reason why he's
- 30:36talking about crypto. But I think that he's doubling
- 30:38down on this idea. He's like, you know, everyone
- 30:41knows that I'm very interested in Bitcoin, which I think is,
- 30:44you know, further credence to this idea that we've all been
- 30:47kind of talking about. And wondering is how, you know,
- 30:51how much does Trump actually care about Bitcoin?
- 30:53How serious is he about either strategic Bitcoin reserve or,
- 30:58you know, passing good regulations, etcetera?
- 31:00Well, I think hearing him double down multiple times on it, I
- 31:03think is, you know, obviously he's a politician.
- 31:05We're going to kind of have to take him at his word for this.
- 31:07But it does sound like he's very serious about Bitcoin.
- 31:10And as we've heard him say in the past, he's looking at the
- 31:12Bitcoin prices like a second Wall Street.
- 31:14And so he wants it to pump. I think he's incentivized to see
- 31:17it pump and as a Bitcoin holder, hey, I'm all here for this.
- 31:21And then the last point, Nico, that we were talking about, you
- 31:23know, maybe he's been hanging out around too many meme coin
- 31:26people because Miami is definitely not the epicenter of
- 31:30Bitcoin. It's the epicenter of shit
- 31:32coinery. So those are my thoughts here,
- 31:33but let's pass it over to Q&A one. 100% Q and AI mean that
- 31:37dude. Pretty crazy.
- 31:38Pretty crazy. I don't think we would have.
- 31:41I really don't think we would have expected this, you know,
- 31:45three or four years ago, five years ago where, you know, the
- 31:48president of the United States, you make an argument one of the
- 31:52most powerful countries or the most powerful country on the
- 31:55phase of the planet is taking credit for the Bitcoin price
- 31:58pump it. So when we get your thoughts on
- 32:01that Q&A? Yeah, it's, it's, it's look,
- 32:05it's an absolutely wild timeline.
- 32:07If you just said to me when we first, when I first got into
- 32:09Bitcoin around 2018 that that the president of the USA would
- 32:13be boasting about pumping the price, I'd have laughed in your
- 32:16face. So, yeah, it's definitely kind
- 32:20of a surreal position to to, to be in and and to experience this
- 32:25around the point of like, you know, I'm almost reluctant to
- 32:29get optimistic about any politician.
- 32:32I think that's a good kind of mantra to live your life by.
- 32:35But with that said, I think he deserves a lot of credit, but
- 32:37for sticking to his word about freeing Ross.
- 32:39I was absolutely elated to see that happen.
- 32:42I I genuinely didn't think that was ever going to come to
- 32:44fruition. And not only did he he, he went
- 32:47over and above what he said. He said he was going to, I
- 32:50forget the term now. You'll have to help me out.
- 32:51I'm not an American, but it was it was commensurate,
- 32:54commensurate his his commute hit commuter sentence when he
- 33:00actually got like a full acquittal.
- 33:01Again, I'm not sure what you guys call over there in the US,
- 33:04but he went over and above what he said he was going to do and
- 33:07to see Ross walk free and the images that he's had with his
- 33:10been posting with his family and his mother and his wife and
- 33:12stuff is just, it's just wonderful.
- 33:14So I, I'm slow to praise politicians, but for that he
- 33:18deserves a lot of credit. But then I'm also quite big on
- 33:22keeping and holding people to their actions.
- 33:24And you know, day one of his presidency, or it might have
- 33:27even been day -1 him and his wife released their, their
- 33:30coins, which then proceeded to, to dump like 90% the following
- 33:34day. So, you know, very, very
- 33:36cautiously kind of optimistic around the, the, the landscape
- 33:40for the next 4 years. the US for, for better or worse, is, is
- 33:44the superpower of, of the world. And when you guys, you know,
- 33:47when a change happens over in the US, generally speaking, the
- 33:51rest of the world does follow suit.
- 33:52So if the US is heading on a positive trajectory in terms of
- 33:57an outlook for Bitcoin, then that makes me positive for for
- 34:00the outlook for the rest of the world, at least for the next 4
- 34:03years during his presidency. But with that said, always judge
- 34:06people by their actions, not what they say.
- 34:07Yeah, To gain some votes. A. 100% I think that's a really,
- 34:10really, really good point, right?
- 34:12Judge people by their actions and I think two things could be
- 34:14true at the same time. And I think this is like what's
- 34:17really I, I, I think it can be confusing Bitcoiners, which is
- 34:22like Trump, like in the, I think it's true of all politics,
- 34:26right, where there has to be concessions.
- 34:29And like Trump repealed Saab 121 ended, you know, the attack on
- 34:36the industry, fried Ross and you know, to to add to your point
- 34:41Q&A, he went from a he promised to to commute his sentence,
- 34:45which basically means like, you're still guilty, but you
- 34:49know, we're going to let you out of jail.
- 34:51But he gave him a full pardon, right?
- 34:54And I think the reason he gave him a full pardon and I think
- 34:57the opposing party really kind of miscalculated this, all the
- 35:01lawfare that they did on Trump, like trying to stop him from
- 35:05going to office. Now it kind of makes sense when
- 35:07Trump saying like, oh, the fabled Fort Knox, like, we'll
- 35:10see where the gold is at. And like all the fraud that's
- 35:13been discovered with the whole Dodge thing, like, no wonder.
- 35:17But but yeah, I mean, they pissed him off to such an Do you
- 35:20see his portrait? His, his his, his, his
- 35:25presidential portrait is a mug is the same face he made for the
- 35:29mug shot, right? So yes, two things could be true
- 35:32at the same time. Definitely positive for the
- 35:34industry, but at the same time, there's been a ton, ton of of,
- 35:39of of mean coin and crypto degeneracy that's been
- 35:44happening, right? So I agree with Q&A stance,
- 35:47right? It's it's good to be cautious
- 35:49about politicians, but at the same time, we do have to give
- 35:52them credit when they come through.
- 35:53And I think freeing Ross was a huge, huge victory for the
- 35:57Bitcoin movement and the libertarian movement.
- 35:59And one thing that I'll say that perhaps is a little bit
- 36:01unpopular, but I tell our boy Rust in this all the time.
- 36:05I'm like, dude, the Trump did more for the Libertarian
- 36:08movement than any other libertarian candidate in the
- 36:11history of the Libertarian Party, right?
- 36:14So and then Ruston's like, yeah, that's actually right.
- 36:17So anyways, quick update on the orange man.
- 36:20We still have a ton of content for you guys left.
- 36:22We're going to be talking about Nigeria central bank digital
- 36:25currencies. We're going to be talking about
- 36:27how governments are portraying central bank digital currencies
- 36:31as the future of of currency, the future, their ability for
- 36:35them to retain the power and the privilege of being able to
- 36:38create money for free that the rest of us have to work for.
- 36:42They're dropping words like sovereignty.
- 36:44They're dropping words like it's like they're just like crossing
- 36:47the wires, man. One last thing I'll say before
- 36:50we move on to the next segment. Do you remember how they tried
- 36:54to pass that bill that every $600.00 transaction had to be
- 36:58reported? Like that was pure aid, like
- 37:03grade A projection? With the amount of BS that
- 37:07we've, what was it that they've been?
- 37:09They, they sent like $50 million worth of condoms to Mozambique.
- 37:15If you did, if you did the math, if you did the math, that would
- 37:18be like, I think it was like 25 condoms per person.
- 37:24Hey, that's enough. That's enough.
- 37:26Like that's fraud, dude. Like.
- 37:29There's no way to cut it. And I remember the the reporter
- 37:32in the press conference was like, you guys have to clarify
- 37:34this because originally you said that you guys were going to send
- 37:38this to Palestine like these condoms.
- 37:41And then like you have to clarify because they were
- 37:44actually going to Mozambique. And then Elon was like, like,
- 37:48does that make it any better? Like, like, do the American
- 37:52people know that they're paying $50 million worth of taxes?
- 37:56The average taxpayer throughout their entire life pays $500,000
- 38:01worth of taxes. Just do the math, right?
- 38:0450 million of that was going to to paying for like the whole
- 38:10thing is messed up, right? And the root of all of this is
- 38:13central banking. The root of all of this is Fiat
- 38:16money. This is what we're fighting
- 38:17against. This is a peaceful revolution.
- 38:19This is what Bitcoin is all about.
- 38:21And as long as governments have the ability to create money for
- 38:24free, they're going to continue to abuse that power.
- 38:27So even if, even if DOGE goes perfectly, it doesn't fix the
- 38:32root cause. And that is really, really what
- 38:37we're going to continue to hammer on and fix.
- 38:40I mean, talk about here, it's simply Bitcoin.
- 38:42Don't, don't. Say the comments.
- 38:43I'm just referencing the comments.
- 38:45Yeah, that our, our, our live chat is wild.
- 38:47Anyways, guys, help us break 200 likes within the first hour of
- 38:51the show. We're at 169 likes.
- 38:54Smash that like button. I kind of want to drop a poll
- 38:58before we move on to the next segment.
- 39:01Opti, what are you thinking? What are you thinking?
- 39:03You have a poll? No, no, no, that's another poll
- 39:05in the chat. I'm talking about a poll in the
- 39:07Thing. Do it?
- 39:09Yeah. I don't know, Pulling the what?
- 39:11Opti's failing, failing me live. All right, everybody, let's get
- 39:14to the new segment. We still have a ton to talk
- 39:16about. Then the culture segment, we're
- 39:17going to talk about passport and a new segment that simply
- 39:21Bitcoin is is collaborating on, which is going to be really,
- 39:24really exciting. So we will be right back.
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- 41:36your piece of Bitcoin. All right, normally Opti would
- 41:43have the passport in his hands, but he doesn't because he's
- 41:46travelling and you shouldn't travel with your hardware
- 41:48wallet. But he is, he has it in his
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- 41:56And I also saw something in the chat as well and I want to pull
- 41:59it up. Where can I find the chat?
- 42:01Here it is. Q should demo the passport.
- 42:07Get Opti Q doesn't have so yeah, yeah, yeah, just.
- 42:16Imagine it's here the day travel with the.
- 42:18Day that, the day that one of the foundation guys comes on is
- 42:22the only day that AFTI doesn't have the password on him.
- 42:26Yeah, yeah, don't, don't travel with your RE.
- 42:28Well, maybe Q. And A can tell the audience that
- 42:30it's probably not the best OPSEC to go through TSA with your
- 42:33passport. So, you know, maybe I'm doing
- 42:36something right here. Definitely wouldn't advise
- 42:39travelling with your hardware wallet if you don't if you don't
- 42:41need to. However, I will say I make a
- 42:43point of travelling with one of my test ones anywhere I go on a
- 42:46flight and I've never once been stopped.
- 42:48Oh, there you go. There you go, some tea for you
- 42:50guys for. Now for now, like I feel like.
- 42:53That that's not to say. Like that's like that's
- 42:56happening now. But I think like in, you know, 5
- 43:00or 10 years, like, you know, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
- 43:05So, but I think, you know, I think it honestly, you could
- 43:10just say it, dude, it's a, it's a Nokia phone just like like
- 43:15technically, OK, It's like a really, it's a special edition
- 43:19Nokia anyhow, all right, so let's talk about this.
- 43:23What am I doing? Take the comment off.
- 43:26Take the comment off. Oh.
- 43:27Thank you, thank you, thank you. All right, everybody, so let's
- 43:30talk about Nigeria's central bank digital currency, the E
- 43:34naira. Why is this important?
- 43:36Why is this important? Why is this so important?
- 43:39Like, I don't know, it's like a lot of you, most of our audience
- 43:42is based out of the United States, Canada and the United
- 43:45Kingdom and it the rest of the audience is worldwide.
- 43:48And we absolutely love you guys, but maybe you guys don't care
- 43:52what's happening in Nigeria. The reason you should care is
- 43:56because it's a test bed. It's a foreshadowing.
- 44:00This is what they want to do worldwide.
- 44:03Make no mistake. Do you think they're just going
- 44:08to give over the keys and say you guys have found better
- 44:10money? And you know what?
- 44:11Like look at how they've reacted to dosh.
- 44:16Like look at how they've reacted to that.
- 44:18And, and, and I'll put it bluntly, guys, that was straight
- 44:21looting. Like they were looting, they
- 44:24were taking tax dollars and they were assigning those tax dollars
- 44:29to, you know, projects. And they hide behind the
- 44:34nobility of those projects, right?
- 44:35They'll say like, oh, you know, like sending $50 million worth
- 44:41of condoms, you know, to, to, to stop HIV to Mozambique is
- 44:45actually good. But when you kind of like look
- 44:47into the details, you're like, wait a second.
- 44:49Like that's more condoms in the entire population.
- 44:55It's fraud there. It's obviously fraud.
- 44:57How are these pop? How are a lot of these pop
- 44:59politicians worth 10s of millions of dollars off a
- 45:03government salary? It doesn't make sense, right?
- 45:07And that's what happened with the whole USAID thing, right?
- 45:11And it was essentially a slush fund, but you were paying for
- 45:13it. If you're a tax dollar, if
- 45:15you're a taxpayer, you're paying for it.
- 45:16And make no mistake, if you live in a Western country that has a
- 45:21powerful Fiat currency, most likely corruption and fraud and
- 45:28mismanagement, it's probably happening in your country too,
- 45:32right? So this is just the tip of the
- 45:33iceberg. As Bitcoiners, we know the
- 45:36solution to this. The solution to this is the
- 45:39separation of money and state. If you don't separate money and
- 45:42state, they will continue to do this.
- 45:45It's human nature. It there's no self correcting
- 45:50mechanism, there's no incentive for them to change.
- 45:53Like think about it for a second.
- 45:55If you make a bad decision as a business owner, you go out of
- 45:58business. If you make a bad decision as a
- 46:01government bureaucrat, there is no feedback whatsoever to your
- 46:07bad decision. There's no feedback to it.
- 46:10Just print more, right? It's that's it.
- 46:12You can just print it, right? Anyhow, so then I give you guys
- 46:18the context. What happened in Nigeria?
- 46:21Well, the E naira was incredibly unpopular.
- 46:25They rolled it out and there was no adoption of it.
- 46:27Why was there very little adoption of the Nigerian Central
- 46:31bank digital currency? Because it doesn't solve 2
- 46:34problems that Bitcoin solves. Governments will always want to
- 46:39control and censor money, and governments will always want to
- 46:45debase money. In fact, until Bitcoin came
- 46:49along, there was a very solid argument that money couldn't
- 46:54exist without inflation. Now can't.
- 47:00As long as Bitcoin continues, it continues to prove that not only
- 47:05can money can, not only can money exist without inflation,
- 47:09money is actually significantly better without inflation.
- 47:13And unfortunately for governments that have been using
- 47:17the money printer as a form of revenue, you know, they have to
- 47:23ask. They have to answer some very
- 47:24tough questions, right? What happens when their
- 47:27constituents start to say, hey, wait a second, guys like, you
- 47:31tax my income already? We've agreed to that.
- 47:34There's laws, there's a social contract, but I never agreed to
- 47:39my money being taxed via inflation.
- 47:41And you see how they react to this when you see them try to
- 47:46justify it. They'll blame the war in
- 47:48Ukraine. They'll blame the supply chains.
- 47:50They'll blame the weather. This is actually true, right?
- 47:54They'll blame everything and anything but themselves, even
- 47:58though they are the sole cause. How, how could how could the
- 48:02weather debase the currency? That's impossible.
- 48:06So they rely on the fact that people are not educated on the
- 48:09matter and they get away with it.
- 48:11But make no mistake, and if you guys want to take one thing from
- 48:15this episode today, inflation is taxation and it's taxation that
- 48:21isn't agreed upon. And if it's taxation that isn't
- 48:25agreed upon via legislation or via the social contract, that is
- 48:29theft. Let's be blunt.
- 48:31Inflation is theft. You can make the same argument
- 48:35about taxation. You can say taxation is theft.
- 48:38Guess what? They went through Congress,
- 48:40people voted on it. It's the law.
- 48:42So it is. That's your opinion that
- 48:44taxation is theft, but it's in the social contract.
- 48:48It's not in the social contract that we have to pay the money
- 48:52tax. It's not in the social contract.
- 48:54So anyways, I had to give all that context.
- 48:56I know it's a little bit long winded, but the Nigeria central
- 49:01bank digital currency which was a test bed for central bank
- 49:05digital currencies worldwide was an absolute failure.
- 49:09And you know what they did when it failed?
- 49:12They actually arrested one of the Binance executives.
- 49:16And the reason that they arrested him is because they
- 49:19claimed that Binance was causing instability in the country.
- 49:22Why? Because a lot of Nigerians were
- 49:24using Binance as an off ramp to their local Fiat currency.
- 49:30So they're using Binance as an off ramp and they blamed Binance
- 49:35for for essentially facilitating being an off ramp instead of
- 49:38taking responsibility and say, OK, guys, we should probably
- 49:41print less money because, you know, this inflation stuff is
- 49:44going crazy. No, no, no, they blame they
- 49:48blame this, you know, private company incorporation.
- 49:51But anyhow, this guy was sitting in prison for a very long time.
- 49:54This is the news today. This is the update Nigeria freed
- 49:58the How do you say that Opti? I don't know.
- 50:02That's the guy's name. Gamberian.
- 50:04Gamberian. Freed Gamberian in exchange for
- 50:08access to U.S. financial surveillance capabilities.
- 50:12So Nigeria P appears to exchanged finance executive and
- 50:16former IRS criminal investigator Tigran Gamberian for access to
- 50:22US resources and expertise in financial surveillance
- 50:26capabilities as part of a secret deal with the US State
- 50:30Department. Very, very, very, very
- 50:33interesting. So it goes on to say the
- 50:36Nigerian regime is known for being one of the most corrupt
- 50:38and abusive in the world. Additionally, Nigeria became the
- 50:42first country to launch a central bank digital currency.
- 50:47So very, very interesting. This guy is freed.
- 50:50Make no mistake. Don't buy into the gaslighting.
- 50:53The reason that they, you know, they, they, they, the reason
- 50:56that they locked this guy up was because Binance was providing an
- 51:02off ramp for the Nigerian people.
- 51:04But I want to connect this with what's happening in Europe,
- 51:08right? So Nigel, or I think that's how
- 51:11you say his name says Europe needs digital currency for
- 51:15sovereignty. So check that out.
- 51:17I'm going to read that again, right, Because it may it like it
- 51:19contradicts, you know, I always I've came up with the term guys
- 51:23in the same. I'm kind of applying it with the
- 51:26$600, like, you know, the, the law that they tried to pass
- 51:31where every $600.00 transaction had to be, you know, verified
- 51:34and audited. Meanwhile, like they're
- 51:36screaming and saying, you know, like this is a threat to the
- 51:39democracy when when we the people want to audit the
- 51:43government. I came up with the term of
- 51:46central banker and politician projection.
- 51:50So they project onto US what it is they are guilty of
- 51:53themselves. And I find it absolutely
- 51:56hilarious that this guy is basically claiming that without
- 52:01a central bank digital currency, Europe won't have sovereignty.
- 52:06Which is hilarious. Sovereignty for who?
- 52:09Sovereignty for the politicians, sovereignty for the bureaucrats
- 52:13or sovereignty for the people, Right.
- 52:15So anyways, it goes on to say Europe should introduce a
- 52:18digital currency, both for retail and wholesale, used as a
- 52:21sovereign instrument to stand up against private sector forces in
- 52:25global finance. Do you see the wording in that?
- 52:28Private sector forces. OK, so let I'm I'm let's do a
- 52:32close up on me Opti. OK, so let's break it down for
- 52:35for just a second. Can you audit the European
- 52:40Central Bank? No.
- 52:43Can you create more EUR? No.
- 52:47You go to jail, right. Can you create more Bitcoin?
- 52:53Yeah. All you got to do is mine it.
- 52:55Can you audit Bitcoin anytime you want?
- 52:59If you're running your own node, Yeah.
- 53:02What sounds more private and what sounds more public to you?
- 53:07And full circle, this is what I mean by central banker and
- 53:14politician projection. They project onto US what it is
- 53:18they're guilty of themselves. And this article is very clever
- 53:22because what they're doing is they're wordsmithing, right?
- 53:25They're wordsmithing. They're basically saying, hold
- 53:27on, guys, you know, we need a sovereign instrument to stand up
- 53:31against private sector forces. What if the private sector comes
- 53:36up with better money for the people?
- 53:38Because that's what happened. That's what happened.
- 53:42But you can't claim that Bitcoin is controlled by a cabal of
- 53:47people. Bitcoin is completely
- 53:49decentralized. No one controls it.
- 53:51The rules are set in stone. It's just an inconvenience to
- 53:55you that it's just better money than the money that you guys
- 54:00have issued. And I'll tell you something.
- 54:03I don't think Bitcoin would have been invented if it wasn't for
- 54:07the abuses that the central bankers committed.
- 54:12It says it in the genesis block on the chancellor, on the brink
- 54:16of the second bailout for banks. Satoshi inherently knew they
- 54:19were going to continue to debase the currency.
- 54:22So I mean, like it's it's absolutely ridiculous.
- 54:29Like this is it's projection. But one thing is pointing this
- 54:35out, but another thing is, guys, you have to take personal agency
- 54:40and you have to get on top of this because most people aren't
- 54:46consuming simply Bitcoin as content.
- 54:49Most people and a lot of people for whatever reason, are still
- 54:54consuming their information from legacy media.
- 54:58And if you're not aware of what money is, then you're looking at
- 55:02this and you're like, holy cow, you know what?
- 55:05Opti, the private sector, bro, it's a threat.
- 55:07It's a threat to our democracy. Holy cow, this Bitcoin thing is
- 55:11a threat to the democracy. I would, I would say what I
- 55:15would claim is central banking is a clear and present threat to
- 55:21democracy much more than a central bank digital currency
- 55:30anyways. So it goes on to say in AQ and a
- 55:34session at the close of an OMFIF lecture in association with the
- 55:40London School of Economics, Nigel coupled skepticism about
- 55:45developments, developments in the crypto economy with
- 55:49assurances that the European Central Bank would not take
- 55:53risks with undue monetary easing.
- 55:56Speaking at the lecture 10 days before a German general
- 55:59election, he said the closer we get to the neutral rate, the
- 56:03more appropriate it becomes to take gradual approach.
- 56:07It goes on to say proceeding in any data-driven and gradual
- 56:11manner has served the ECB Governing Council well.
- 56:14There is no reason to act hastily in the present present
- 56:17uncertain environment. The data tells us where we need
- 56:20to go. Echoing his French counterpart
- 56:23Governor Whatever, Nigel foresaw inflation in the euro area
- 56:28falling to around the EC BS 2% target by the summer, providing
- 56:32further leeway for potential rate cuts.
- 56:35During the discussion, he left his audience in no doubt about
- 56:38his views on the crypto friendly leanings of the administration
- 56:42of U.S. President Donald Trump.
- 56:44He argued that Bitcoin was not a currency, but more like an asset
- 56:49class, describing it as the opposite of transparent.
- 56:54I'm telling you, the law of central bank politician
- 56:58projection never fails. How the F is their system more
- 57:03transparent than ours, right? It's an open Ledger.
- 57:08Anyone could verify it at any time, right?
- 57:11So don't fall for it. Don't fall for it.
- 57:13It's like that $600.00 law that they tried to pass it.
- 57:16Wait, go back, go back. Read that part OK, I, I got to
- 57:20pull this up. Like they're going to pull,
- 57:22they're going to try to do what they're going to try to do what
- 57:25they, what they did in, in Nigeria.
- 57:28And here it is. CBDC's will play a role in
- 57:31future resilience of Europe, he stated, indicating that this was
- 57:35tied to European sovereignty. Outlining the growing strength
- 57:40of private sector actors, many from the US and the
- 57:44international payments field, he cautioned that these could be
- 57:48used in a digital environment as a form of weapon.
- 57:52Underlying. This is all projection.
- 57:54This is 100% projection. He is projecting what he
- 57:58believes the CBDC can be used for, underlying the need for
- 58:03Europe to establish a means of resistance in the digital
- 58:06sphere. When asked about the impact of
- 58:08digitalization and the introduction of a CBDC on a
- 58:12neutral rate of interest, Nigel said it was too early to tell,
- 58:16but reiterated that a CBDC will have an important role in the
- 58:19future, adding that it is a public good that the monetary
- 58:23authorities should provide. Like dude, no, it, it, it and,
- 58:30and again, just catch them over and over and over and over and
- 58:33over and over and over and again.
- 58:35They hide behind the veneer of it being a public good.
- 58:40Like they hide behind it. They say this is for your
- 58:44safety, if not, it's a threat to democracy.
- 58:47But in reality, they just want power and control.
- 58:50And this is one of the things that I love about Bitcoin is
- 58:52that it exposes incentives. His incentives are being
- 58:57exposed. What?
- 58:58What? OK, let me ask you something in
- 59:01the in the case with Nigeria, they're dealing with double
- 59:04digit inflation. Why do you think people are
- 59:05seeking alternative currencies? They don't want to deal with
- 59:09double digit inflation. What what, why in the US, even
- 59:13with the dollar, which is a relatively stable Fiat currency,
- 59:16relatively stable, why are people still seeking Bitcoin?
- 59:19Because it's better money. So the, the problem that
- 59:24politicians and central bankers have is and they use, you know,
- 59:28like all this very complicated language and all these
- 59:31justifications is how are you going to explain to people that
- 59:36inflation is necessary when clearly it's being proved every
- 59:42single day that Bitcoin continues to survive that it
- 59:45isn't necessary? How are you going to convince
- 59:48them of that? And what happens when people
- 59:51start to realize that when you adopt A Bitcoin standard, your
- 59:54life gets progressively cheaper versus if you're on a Fiat
- 59:58standard, your life gets progressively more expensive for
- 1:00:01the rest of time. How are you going to explain
- 1:00:03that away? So they used.
- 1:00:08People's goodwill and good intention and belief in that
- 1:00:14system and they abused it. And I don't think, I think that
- 1:00:19if they wouldn't have abused it, I don't think Bitcoin would
- 1:00:22exist. I think that if what didn't
- 1:00:25happen in 2008, if what happened in 2008 didn't happen, I don't
- 1:00:30think Bitcoin would exist. Bitcoin was a reaction to the
- 1:00:36crime they committed. And remember, no significant
- 1:00:41central banker or banker in general went to jail for what
- 1:00:47happened in 2008 where the American people, the Main St.
- 1:00:52bailed out Wall Street. And that's what Bitcoins about.
- 1:00:57So don't let them gaslight you. Don't let them use these words.
- 1:01:02Don't let them say that it's because of this and it's because
- 1:01:05of that. And Europe needs sovereignty and
- 1:01:08and you know, it's a it's a public good.
- 1:01:10No question them how's it how let me ask you something.
- 1:01:13How's, how is the central bank more, more public than Bitcoin?
- 1:01:19And watch that they're going to, they cannot answer the question.
- 1:01:23Make them follow their own rules.
- 1:01:26Make them answer those questions.
- 1:01:28They don't have answers to those questions.
- 1:01:30They're relying on the fact that you don't know any better.
- 1:01:35But in the era of the Internet and the era of mass scale
- 1:01:39peer-to-peer communications, AK social media, their ability to
- 1:01:44control the narrative is gone, doesn't exist anymore.
- 1:01:47But we have to use it. We have to take advantage of it.
- 1:01:50This is narrative trench warfare on the battlegrounds of the
- 1:01:53Internet. And what we're fighting for is
- 1:01:55the freedom of humanity from the tyranny of central banking.
- 1:01:58But we have to this is this is, this is about winning over the
- 1:02:01hearts and minds. It's about getting the message
- 1:02:03out there. That's all it's about.
- 1:02:04It's it's not kinetic. It's literally about information
- 1:02:08warfare. Literally talking to the person
- 1:02:10next to you and telling them the truth.
- 1:02:12It's not left versus right. It's not red versus blue.
- 1:02:16It's green versus orange. It's Fiat versus Bitcoin.
- 1:02:19It's Bitcoin or slavery. That's it.
- 1:02:21Drop Mike. I'm going to get Q&A in here
- 1:02:24went on a rant. It just makes me so passionate,
- 1:02:26bro, when I hear these like central bankers and politicians
- 1:02:30just like, you know, like complete gaslight and say stuff
- 1:02:34like, oh, you know what? This is important for European
- 1:02:37sovereignty. Oh, you know what this is
- 1:02:40Bitcoin isn't, isn't isn't public.
- 1:02:42Bitcoin is private. Like it's such BS Q and AI know
- 1:02:46Brit exit happens. I know you know the United
- 1:02:50Kingdom went a separate direction, but like, bro,
- 1:02:53Brussels is going crazy, are they not?
- 1:02:58Yeah, there's just some outrageous comments in there.
- 1:03:01You've obviously touched on all of the big ones that the only
- 1:03:03one that you missed off that I wanted to highlight was earlier
- 1:03:06on in the article where he mentioned that we are not going
- 1:03:09to do anything rash basically, and we're not going to print a
- 1:03:11load of money in response to this.
- 1:03:13And I was just thinking immediately, well, hang on, that
- 1:03:16ship's already sailed. Like you've already printed
- 1:03:18trillions and trillions of EUR and inflation is running rampant
- 1:03:22throughout your territory. Like it's too late for that sort
- 1:03:25of shit. And like you said, that is the
- 1:03:28driver for people to want change.
- 1:03:31It's, it's almost poetic around the timing of the, the 2008
- 1:03:34financial crisis and the launch of Bitcoin.
- 1:03:36It's almost as if it was planned.
- 1:03:37But I, I just dropped into the, into the comments of the of the
- 1:03:40live chat as well. And necessity is the mother of
- 1:03:43innovation. When people get backed into a
- 1:03:45corner, they will look for a solution.
- 1:03:47And clearly that solution at the moment is a. 100%, I completely,
- 1:03:50completely agree with you, Opti, Quick take because I know we're
- 1:03:53we're running a little bit long today and I do want to get to
- 1:03:56the culture segment. Yeah, no, I mean, my take not to
- 1:03:59rehash everything you guys said, 'cause you guys hit the nail on
- 1:04:02the head on most of that stuff. What I find very interesting is
- 1:04:06the part where they start talking about the private
- 1:04:08sector. And I'm currently at the point
- 1:04:11that I'm, I'm starting to believe that we might not even
- 1:04:14actually see a CBDC come out from any central bank cause of
- 1:04:18what we saw in Nigeria, even though, you know what, to Nigel,
- 1:04:21Nigel, whatever his name is, sorry for mispronouncing it.
- 1:04:25Even though they keep pushing this idea that they need a
- 1:04:27central bank digital currency, I'm starting to feel like most
- 1:04:31people at the very least, are waking up to what that actually
- 1:04:35means. And the more they push, the more
- 1:04:36people are going to work against it.
- 1:04:38Obviously just go for the easier route, which is of course going
- 1:04:42into Bitcoin. And so I'm starting to believe
- 1:04:44that even though they keep talking about it, even though
- 1:04:46they keep doing doublespeak around Bitcoin, especially this
- 1:04:49article, it is, you know, quintessential doublespeak from
- 1:04:52or, you know, Orwell's novels here where they're projecting
- 1:04:55everything that, you know, Bitcoin is onto what they're
- 1:04:58creating. And they're trying to spin this
- 1:05:00narrative that, oh, CDC will be good for you.
- 1:05:03And I think this is falling on deaf ears.
- 1:05:05And so I'm, I'm starting to become very bearish on the fact
- 1:05:08that there will even be a CDC coming out of a central bank.
- 1:05:12But like they said, you know, I'm, you guys know me.
- 1:05:14I'm, I'm not above the idea that maybe, you know, the central
- 1:05:18bank digital currency comes from the private sector and hence why
- 1:05:22I'm kind of more anti against stable coins.
- 1:05:24But I think CBDC's aren't going to happen.
- 1:05:27I'm starting like at first, you know, we've been covering this a
- 1:05:29long time. It seemed like it was right
- 1:05:31around the corner. Now it seems like there's less,
- 1:05:34you know, possibility of this happening, especially now we
- 1:05:36have the US essentially saying we're not going to create a
- 1:05:39CBDC, whether from Trump or from Jerome Powell, from power
- 1:05:42central bank. So I'm, I'm starting to be a
- 1:05:44little less bearish and I guess more bullish on the idea that
- 1:05:47Bitcoin is going to take over a CBC is just not going to happen.
- 1:05:51It it's not favorable. People don't want this.
- 1:05:53They'll they'll try, but I think they're going to fail.
- 1:05:55And so that I'm obviously bullish on humanity on this
- 1:05:59point and Bitcoin taking over. Yeah, 100 percent, 100%, like
- 1:06:03100% agree with you guys. We're going to hit the culture
- 1:06:05segment. We have tons to talk about.
- 1:06:08We got Q&A in the house from Foundation.
- 1:06:11We're going to talk about the passport.
- 1:06:13We're going to be talking about a new segment of Simply Bitcoin
- 1:06:17that we are going to be announcing.
- 1:06:18We're going to be rolling out next month.
- 1:06:20It's going to be really, really exciting.
- 1:06:22So stay tuned, guys. We will be right back.
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- 1:08:06back guys. Q&A.
- 1:08:08Do you want them to do the honours or shall we?
- 1:08:13I can jump in. Yeah, absolutely.
- 1:08:15Very, very excited about this guys.
- 1:08:17You know, it's been a bit of work in a background to to bring
- 1:08:20this together. And yeah, it's basically happy
- 1:08:24to announce a a new segment on the Simply Bitcoin show, going
- 1:08:28to be starting off once per month at the moment, and it is
- 1:08:32called the Simply Bitcoin Academy.
- 1:08:35So what the hell is the Simply Bitcoin Academy?
- 1:08:38So the the aim of the game here guys is that we want to help all
- 1:08:41of the Simply Bitcoin and Foundation customers and
- 1:08:44listeners and watchers, viewers, all of the above to get involved
- 1:08:48and get their hands dirty and learn more about using Bitcoin
- 1:08:52and becoming more and more sovereign.
- 1:08:54So that could be literally anything from, you know, basics
- 1:08:57of self custody, how to use a lightning wallet, how to set up
- 1:09:01a multi sig wallet? Which is the best options to,
- 1:09:04to, to purchase as part of your multi sig wallet?
- 1:09:06What the hell is a mobile wallet?
- 1:09:08You know, is Sparrow wallet a good option?
- 1:09:11How the hell do I run a node? How can I become more private
- 1:09:14when interacting with Bitcoin? What the hell is UTXO
- 1:09:17management? How do I test my backups?
- 1:09:20Like those are just some examples that I've brainstormed
- 1:09:22before. What I want to do is I'm going
- 1:09:25to be on hand along with obviously Nico and Opti to take
- 1:09:30your questions in multitude of formats to basically just help
- 1:09:34you level up for anything related to using Bitcoin,
- 1:09:38interacting with Bitcoin. We want to just get you guys
- 1:09:41taken to the next level so that you can level up your
- 1:09:44sovereignty, your security, etcetera.
- 1:09:46And then you can go and do that with your friends and family as
- 1:09:48well so that we can continue to grow the hive mind.
- 1:09:52Beautiful, beautiful. I'm I'm extremely excited.
- 1:09:54I think it's going to add a tremendous amount of value for
- 1:09:57all of you guys. A lot of the a lot of the
- 1:09:59questions that we get is, you know, people just don't know how
- 1:10:03to take self custody. So we're going to have a
- 1:10:04dedicated, we're going to have a dedicated segment in the show it
- 1:10:10that after the culture segment and it's just going to be about
- 1:10:15learning how to take self custody, learning how to use the
- 1:10:18passport device and they just announced a new device as well.
- 1:10:22We're going to be talking about that in a little bit and
- 1:10:25learning how to use all those features because guys, you have
- 1:10:29to understand the pivotal moment we are in history.
- 1:10:32We're transitioning from the analog era to the information
- 1:10:35age. And, you know, in the
- 1:10:38information age, taking custody of your digital identity, taking
- 1:10:43custody of your, of your wealth is possible.
- 1:10:47And it, it could be a little bit intimidating for a lot of people
- 1:10:52because they're not used to that.
- 1:10:54They've been, you know, living in the Fiat matrix for most of
- 1:10:57their lives. And they've been outsourcing
- 1:10:58that responsibility to banks. They've been outsourcing that
- 1:11:01responsibility to governments and you can make a very solid
- 1:11:06argument that that, that that has been abused, right?
- 1:11:09So it's time for people to take back their actual sovereignty,
- 1:11:14not the sovereignty that that Mother Effer was talking about
- 1:11:17in that article, but the way that you do that sovereignty,
- 1:11:21taking back your sovereignty comes with great responsibility
- 1:11:23because there is no one 800 number to call if you make a
- 1:11:27mistake. There is no, you know, there
- 1:11:31there is no support line, right. You know, we recommend we're
- 1:11:35very picky on who we choose to partner with.
- 1:11:38You know, we have foundation we have Casa makes makes it makes
- 1:11:42self custody even even easier with their multi sig setup and
- 1:11:45all that stuff. So there's so many partners that
- 1:11:48you guys could choose over that, that we're with that allow you
- 1:11:52make this journey easier. And and I can say, you know,
- 1:11:55without a shadow of a doubt, the passport device.
- 1:11:58One of the reasons I like recommending it is they don't
- 1:12:01sacrifice security for convenience, right?
- 1:12:05We have to remember that, you know, like it seems easy, but
- 1:12:11like the whole concept of it of like writing down 12 words and
- 1:12:17those 12 words are your money is a very radical concept, right?
- 1:12:22Like remember the early days of when you were getting into
- 1:12:24Bitcoin, right? And So what I love about what
- 1:12:27the passport guys do is they make, they try to make that
- 1:12:31transition as seamless as possible.
- 1:12:36And part of that is the education.
- 1:12:38So, you know, the Simply Bitcoin Academy is going to be part of
- 1:12:43that educational front. We're going to have slideshows
- 1:12:46for you guys. We're going to have live
- 1:12:48previews and of course we're going to have Q&A here to answer
- 1:12:53any Q&A's that you might that you guys might have, right.
- 1:12:56So I'm going to pull up the foundation website and just show
- 1:13:00off the, the, you know, the, the two products that you guys have.
- 1:13:05Of course the passport, which we guys have been recommending for
- 1:13:08a long time now. Opti, can you put the QR code
- 1:13:11please? Oh, so sorry about that.
- 1:13:15So yes, this is a passport, guys.
- 1:13:18It's an amazing hardware wallet. It is compatible with Casa, by
- 1:13:22the way. So if you're using the Casa
- 1:13:24product, you can use the Passport as one of the keys.
- 1:13:27It's very seamless. You don't even have to connect
- 1:13:29it with the computer. You can just use the cameras.
- 1:13:32It's very, very cool. And again, it's if you're
- 1:13:35familiar with the Nokia, right? If you're as old as me, as Opti,
- 1:13:40right, you're very familiar with with this type of device.
- 1:13:43It's very user friendly. It's very easy to use and it's
- 1:13:47completely air gapped. So it's not even it's never
- 1:13:49connected to the Internet. The USBC thing that you see at
- 1:13:53the bottom that's just to power up the battery, but you can you
- 1:13:58can sign transactions in two different ways.
- 1:14:01Maybe Q&A is is going to RIP me a new one, but I believe it's
- 1:14:04only two different ways, correct through the camera and which is
- 1:14:09I love signing through the camera.
- 1:14:11It's it's super awesome. And then via the SD card, right,
- 1:14:15both of which are really, really cool because you don't actually
- 1:14:18connect the device to a computer.
- 1:14:21Computers are, you know, connected to the Internet.
- 1:14:23You know, obviously, you know, more than likely it's fine,
- 1:14:27right? But if you're a paranoid
- 1:14:29bitcoiner like a lot of us, right, you want your keys
- 1:14:32completely air gapped, right. So of course you guys know about
- 1:14:36the passport. We've been talking about it for
- 1:14:37a while. It connects with the Envoy app
- 1:14:41on your phone and the Envoy app is incredibly easy to use.
- 1:14:45It's really, really awesome. It's your Bitcoin wallet and the
- 1:14:48Envoy app actually allows you to connect to your node, right?
- 1:14:52So you technically you can, you can connect with foundations
- 1:14:57node, right? And I'm I'm sure those guys
- 1:14:59aren't doing anything with your UTX OS.
- 1:15:01But let's say you're like, no, I don't trust Q&A.
- 1:15:04He's that British accent doesn't, doesn't doesn't inspire
- 1:15:08trust to me. I'm not trusting that you can
- 1:15:10actually connect to the Envoy app with your own note.
- 1:15:14If if you just you want to trust minimize the whole situation.
- 1:15:19The passport is completely open source.
- 1:15:21You don't have to trust anyone you know the you can you can
- 1:15:24audit the software yourself and it's it's a really, really
- 1:15:28awesome device. You can scan the QR code on your
- 1:15:31screen. Use promo code simply you won't
- 1:15:34get Opti, but you will get a discount on the on the passport.
- 1:15:38Now they just announced the, the passport prime and it's pretty,
- 1:15:46pretty awesome. It's pretty, pretty cool.
- 1:15:48And it does something more than just securing your Bitcoin,
- 1:15:55your, your, your seed words. And I'll pass it on to Q&A cause
- 1:16:00Q&A is going to do the pitch a whole lot better than I can.
- 1:16:04This this device has not been released yet, but you can
- 1:16:08reserve it now. So Q&A, can you tell the
- 1:16:11audience right now we have 2753 people watching live about the
- 1:16:17newly released Foundation product, the Passport Prime.
- 1:16:23Yeah, Firstly, I think you did a great job with with going
- 1:16:25through Passport, Nico, that was that was beautiful.
- 1:16:27Just one thing I want to add before I start talking about
- 1:16:29Passport Prime, which you can see on screen and this is a good
- 1:16:32problem to have, but the the listeners and our customers have
- 1:16:36literally bought out all of our stock from our US factory.
- 1:16:39So we are working double time to re up and to manufacture those
- 1:16:43as quickly as possible. We're on a rough shipping
- 1:16:45timeline of two to three weeks at the moment.
- 1:16:47So if you place your order today for a Passport then that will be
- 1:16:50shipped out in around two to three weeks.
- 1:16:53And we appreciate your patience and thank you for clearing out
- 1:16:55all of our stock. We didn't see it come in.
- 1:16:57So yeah, that was that was wonderful to to see happen.
- 1:17:01So yeah, just a couple of weeks, bear with us and we'll be back
- 1:17:04in stock and shipping next day. With that said, what you see on
- 1:17:08screen is Passport Prime, our new device.
- 1:17:11I'm being very careful here to not call this device a hardware
- 1:17:14wallet. That's for for two reasons.
- 1:17:17The 1st is that it does way more than that.
- 1:17:20And the second one is that it has different kind of trade off
- 1:17:24models to the existing Passport device that Nico's just been
- 1:17:27talking about. With Passport, as Nico said,
- 1:17:30it's entirely air gap, it's completely offline.
- 1:17:32It is the most secure way that you can keep your Bitcoin safe,
- 1:17:36secure and offline. You can't interact with it via
- 1:17:39USB, you can't plug it into a computer and you have to
- 1:17:42interact with it via QR codes or micro SD cards.
- 1:17:45Again, that's intentional and that's to maintain the maximum
- 1:17:47level of security that we can. However, that poses some UX
- 1:17:52hurdles, which we've done at our best to lower the barrier to
- 1:17:56entry of, but you can only go so far with an A gap device.
- 1:17:59You still have to bridge that gap by doing, you know, QR code
- 1:18:03scanning or micro SD card passing back and forth, which
- 1:18:06can be a little bit of a hurdle for some people to kind of gain
- 1:18:08an understanding of what's going on.
- 1:18:11So with Passport Prime, along with a bunch of new features
- 1:18:14which I'll get onto in a second, we've added additional
- 1:18:16connectivity options, namely NFC and encrypted Bluetooth
- 1:18:20communications that we're calling Quantum Link.
- 1:18:23What that means is that you can do all of your usual Bitcoin
- 1:18:26kind of transactions and management with Envoy or mobile
- 1:18:31app or any of the other wonderful open source
- 1:18:33alternatives that are on the market.
- 1:18:35But if you don't want to do that via QR code or micro SD card,
- 1:18:38you can have it kind of happen magically over NFC with a quick
- 1:18:42tap or via our encrypted Bluetooth communications as
- 1:18:45well. Such that what that means is
- 1:18:47that basically everything can happen kind of on the Passport
- 1:18:50Prime screen. And it's a much more of a
- 1:18:52seamless experience so that you, you don't have to kind of juggle
- 1:18:55the two devices back and forth. It's a much faster operation and
- 1:18:59it kind of makes things a lot faster and easier onto the the
- 1:19:03additional functionalities. We're calling Passport Prime A
- 1:19:07personal security platform. The reason that we're doing that
- 1:19:10or or we're calling it that should I say is that of course
- 1:19:14it will secure your Bitcoin. It will have all of the features
- 1:19:16that the existing passport has in terms of all of the Bitcoin
- 1:19:20management software. So additional seeds,
- 1:19:23passphrases, multi sig QR codes, all of that stuff, all will all
- 1:19:27be in Prime. It will be a feature parity at
- 1:19:29launch, but alongside that we've added in loads of other core
- 1:19:33functionalities such as you can now have your two FA Codes app
- 1:19:36so that you can secure all of your online accounts and have
- 1:19:39those offline stored on Prime. You can have your Fido security
- 1:19:43keys similar to kind of how Apple does their pass keys.
- 1:19:46You can have those stored on Passport Prime.
- 1:19:48You can have a seed vault as well, which is kind of like the
- 1:19:52the vault where you can keep all of your different seeds so it
- 1:19:55can act as an additional backup for all the different mobile
- 1:19:58wallet seeds that you have. So if you use say Sparrow or you
- 1:20:02have a mobile wallet on Blue wallet or you use something like
- 1:20:05nunchuck, you can have all of those backed up in in Passport
- 1:20:08Prime as well. What else have I missed?
- 1:20:12Oh yeah, we also have an encrypted file storage as well.
- 1:20:14So you can keep 50 gigabytes worth of your most important
- 1:20:19files encrypted and offline on your Passport Prime as well.
- 1:20:23And just so you can get an idea for the form factor, this is
- 1:20:27roughly 2/3 the height of an iPhone.
- 1:20:30So it's very portable and easy to to be much more of a of a
- 1:20:34daily carry device when compared with your, you know, something
- 1:20:39like an offline, a gap hardware like Passport.
- 1:20:42As you've probably seen from the images, it is a touch screen
- 1:20:44device. So it will feel very intuitive
- 1:20:46to well everybody on the planet that owns a smartphone and we
- 1:20:50default to a very slick NFC Shamir secret sharing backup
- 1:20:54scheme. What that means is that
- 1:20:56essentially you can get set up and backed up in about 5
- 1:21:00minutes. You just tap 2 cards to the back
- 1:21:03of the to the back of the device and then a third Shard or third
- 1:21:08piece of your seed is encrypted and sent off to your iCloud or
- 1:21:12to your Google account. Now that might make some
- 1:21:14hardcore bitcoiners shoulder the thought of like 1 Shard of their
- 1:21:18their kind of private key going up to the cloud again, that is
- 1:21:21completely optional. But the the idea with prime here
- 1:21:24is that we are further lowering that barrier to entry to make
- 1:21:27this ready for the masses. And the most important part for
- 1:21:31me is that you can get it in two colorways, which you can see on
- 1:21:33screen and as a as the resident dark mode maximalist that passed
- 1:21:37that foundation. Very, very, very happy to
- 1:21:39announce that we are now shipping a dark mode device so
- 1:21:42that you can get that stealth look.
- 1:21:45Yeah, I don't I don't even know why there's white mode like now
- 1:21:49that there's like dark mode, like I feel like, you know, like
- 1:21:53if you are using like X on white mode, like I don't want to be
- 1:21:57your friend. You're a psychopath.
- 1:21:58Yeah, like I don't want to be your friend.
- 1:22:01So yeah, No, the colors are absolutely beautiful.
- 1:22:04The design of the device is absolutely beautiful.
- 1:22:07And yeah, again, you guys, this is all about like the I want to
- 1:22:12talk about the two FA thing for a little bit just to kind of
- 1:22:16give you guys an example. So if you guys have a Gmail
- 1:22:21account or something, you know, more than likely you have two FA
- 1:22:26signed up. If for whatever reason you're
- 1:22:29using SMSI, highly recommend against that.
- 1:22:33There's a lot of SIM swapping and a lot of things going
- 1:22:35around. So you probably have two FA on,
- 1:22:39you know, in two FA as you scan AQR code on your phone and you
- 1:22:44have Google, I forget what it's called Google Bolt.
- 1:22:48What is it? I forgot.
- 1:22:51But anyhow, you have a, you have a, you know, a Google
- 1:22:54Authenticator on your phone or offi and you have all your two
- 1:22:59FA codes on, you know, on your phone.
- 1:23:03Problem is that your phone is, is hot.
- 1:23:07It's connected to the Internet, right?
- 1:23:09And now for whatever reason, Authenticator even is allowing
- 1:23:13cloud backups, which I think is fucking crazy.
- 1:23:16Excuse my language. So this is awesome because you
- 1:23:20can now have your two FA codes on an air gap device, right?
- 1:23:25That's very, very important. Also, this is really cool.
- 1:23:30I actually didn't know about this, but you guys have 50
- 1:23:35gigabytes of encrypted storage on the device itself.
- 1:23:39So if there's any type of very sensitive documents or any types
- 1:23:44of sensitive data that you have, I don't recommend putting it on
- 1:23:48your phone. You know, this is this is a
- 1:23:51great to have it on the device itself.
- 1:23:55So it's more than a hardware wallet, you know, it, it has a a
- 1:23:59lot of this functionality that a lot of your sensitive data and
- 1:24:03this digital world that we live in.
- 1:24:05You know, as much as that central banker was like, we got
- 1:24:07to get ready for digitalization by rolling out CBDC.
- 1:24:10And he is, he is right about the world becoming more digital.
- 1:24:16Yeah, you got to, you got to take care of your, of your
- 1:24:18online, you know, on your online identity and your keys.
- 1:24:21You got to do it the right way. So yeah, definitely get yourself
- 1:24:25a passport. Prime reserve it now.
- 1:24:28The passport is available now. You you guys aren't
- 1:24:31discontinuing the passport, right?
- 1:24:33Because that's a fan favorite. Absolutely not.
- 1:24:35That's going that is going nowhere.
- 1:24:37We just sold out temporarily for the next couple of weeks.
- 1:24:39You can still place an order passport as you as you see it is
- 1:24:42going nowhere and little bit of alpha news for for the
- 1:24:46listeners. We may or may not be releasing a
- 1:24:49very, very, very minor twist on the current passport in the
- 1:24:53coming months. No need to hold out in terms of
- 1:24:57is it going to be a big improvement in any sort of
- 1:25:00functionality or any, you know, abilities.
- 1:25:04It will be similar in that respect.
- 1:25:07Just a very slight different option to cater to different
- 1:25:11tastes is also I'll say. Yeah, good, good sneak peek.
- 1:25:14I don't even know what it is, but I, I'm not going to guess,
- 1:25:17but Q and AI do want to jump in here because there were a few
- 1:25:19good comments in the chat and I think it'd be good to hit on
- 1:25:22those live before we wrap up today's show.
- 1:25:24So you responded to them in the chat.
- 1:25:26I don't have access to my computer right now, but if you
- 1:25:29just want to rehash the questions and then give those
- 1:25:32answers and then we can roll out today.
- 1:25:35Yeah, so Kaifo me asked if we have a stateless mode support.
- 1:25:40Yes, we absolutely do in both passport and passport prime.
- 1:25:43And for those that aren't aware what that means, that's
- 1:25:46basically, you know, the ability to use passport or prime as in
- 1:25:51kind of like seed signer mode where the, the seed or the
- 1:25:54master secret is never ever saved to the device.
- 1:25:57What that obviously that poses with it some UX hurdles in that
- 1:26:00you have to load the seed into the device every time.
- 1:26:02But some of the more advanced users do prefer that rather than
- 1:26:06the seed being active or be it secured by the secure elements
- 1:26:09all of the time on the device. So we, we support that.
- 1:26:12You can choose your own journey. You can have the seed saved
- 1:26:14permanently, which is the traditional way, or you can use
- 1:26:17it in stateless mode as well. We Keith in the chat says I'm
- 1:26:22calling it Q convince Zach to drop a blacked out passport.
- 1:26:26I could not possibly comment on that over the wise smile.
- 1:26:32Oh my God, someone asked. Does it have a lock screen with
- 1:26:38a passport but with a password? Yeah, absolutely.
- 1:26:41You can choose a numerical PIN or proper alphanumeric password.
- 1:26:46Incredible, incredible. So Anthony asked.
- 1:26:50So this device is just storing my BTC not a bit.
- 1:26:53Not able to use regular for service.
- 1:26:56I don't know what that means. Yeah.
- 1:26:57I'm not sure what the last bit is, but yeah, it will store your
- 1:26:59Bitcoin like a traditional hardware.
- 1:27:01Well, it would, but it does all of the extra things that I just
- 1:27:04mentioned as well, you know 2FA code, security keys, additional
- 1:27:07seeds, file browser, etcetera, etcetera.
- 1:27:09And the bit I kind of failed to to mention is that we're
- 1:27:13building this on a on an open source operating system called
- 1:27:16key OS that we built from the ground up.
- 1:27:18Obviously that is like everything that we do completely
- 1:27:21open source. And what that means is that you
- 1:27:24Passport Prime users are not wholly relying on us to produce
- 1:27:28apps for the device. So if you have, you know, let's
- 1:27:31say Casa is a great example. If Casa wanted to build their
- 1:27:35own app for Passport Prime, they could go and do that.
- 1:27:38They could just integrate with us.
- 1:27:40They don't even need our permission.
- 1:27:41Obviously, we'd love them to do that, but the sky is the limit
- 1:27:44for what this device can do. Basically, we are not the
- 1:27:47gatekeepers. We're going to open source
- 1:27:50everything as always, we'll have a kind of an open app platform.
- 1:27:54And if if you have a popular wallet, let's say, I don't know,
- 1:27:57Nuncho Cake wallet, or let's say it doesn't even need to be
- 1:28:00Bitcoin focused, it could be a password manager like Bit
- 1:28:03Warden. If you wanted to build an app
- 1:28:05and have it live on Prime, we would welcome that.
- 1:28:07We would help you do it. And, well, more importantly, we
- 1:28:09can't stop you from doing that. Incredible.
- 1:28:13Last question here is how much is it by money 2247?
- 1:28:17Yeah, good question. I should have mentioned that
- 1:28:19that it's 299 U.S. dollars you can reserve.
- 1:28:22Now we have a handful of early access units remaining and I do
- 1:28:28literally mean a handful of of those.
- 1:28:30They are due to ship in the beginning of April.
- 1:28:34And then you but you can also pre-order just a general,
- 1:28:38general sort of sales device which are due to ship after we
- 1:28:41complete the 1st 1000 early access units.
- 1:28:44So that will be towards the end of April, beginning of May.
- 1:28:48Incredible incredible guys scan the QR code you can use promo
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- 1:29:08your your sovereignty, your your digital sovereignty in general.
- 1:29:14Q&A is going to be joining us on the show.
- 1:29:16It's going to be a new segment. Incredibly excited for it.
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