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Reaction to Azzurri wins in World Cup Qualifying - Ep. 276 · The Calcio Guys

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  Speaker 1: And breathe. That's what our capture and social media caption
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  Speaker 1: said after the game today, Italy versus Israel one of
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  Speaker 1: the weirdest World Cup qualifying games will ever see. One
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  Speaker 1: of the weirdest Italy games you'll ever see. Three points
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  Speaker 1: is three points. They don't ask how, they ask what.
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  Speaker 1: That's what we're going with today, Uh, Ichiano, Janny and Nicholas.
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  Speaker 1: and the Couture guys, Johnny Hair, guys doing.
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  Speaker 2: I just I was just start to breathe now, I mean,
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  Speaker 2: what else is this to say? I've been pacing back
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  Speaker 2: and forth. Thank god, my Nona brought these these pepert
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  Speaker 2: and Chini's here. You know how superstitiousless Italians are, right,
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  Speaker 2: I've been holding them in my hands, in my pockets,
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  Speaker 2: pacing up and down all game long. Guys, it's so
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  Speaker 2: you're in for a treat for tonight's episode. If you
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  Speaker 2: have your pepper and Chinos, you know, keep them close
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  Speaker 2: to you. Uh.
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  Speaker 3: But yeah, I'm doing good, Johnnio.
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  Speaker 4: Honestly, I'm okay right now. But let let's talk about
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  Speaker 4: this for a second game time. Both times I was not, Okay,
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  Speaker 4: why is it? I feel like a qualification game has
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  Speaker 4: to feel like an elimination game, like every freaking time.
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  Speaker 4: It just it's annoying me that we've reached this point
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  Speaker 4: when it comes to the AZUITI that like, even a
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  Speaker 4: fucking World Cup qualifier game feels like it's life or death.
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  Speaker 4: It's it's it's annoying. I I want to feel this
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  Speaker 4: come round of sixteen, not World Cup qualifiers, you know.
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  Speaker 1: Anyways, that's exactly what I was thinking of today, is
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  Speaker 1: just watching it's like it's three cycles now where it's
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  Speaker 1: just getting to a point and these games against smaller teams,
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  Speaker 1: against smaller nations, it should it shouldn't be stressful straight up,
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  Speaker 1: Like back in the day, these qualify these qualifys were
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  Speaker 1: pretty much practice for the Azuti on their way to
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  Speaker 1: you know, qualification for World Cup. And unfortunately we've gone
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  Speaker 1: to the point, we've repeated it time and time again.
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  Speaker 1: We know we can't take qualification for granted. Apparently the
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  Speaker 1: players haven't learned that yet because it's still the same
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  Speaker 1: song and dance, right, it's you know what it started
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  Speaker 1: off well, five nothing aginst to Sotnia. We'll talk about that.
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  Speaker 1: But recently, Bias, we got to talk about this five
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  Speaker 1: to four gam against Israel. But guys, it's crazy. If
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  Speaker 1: you told me before these two matches that Italian players
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  Speaker 1: would score twelve goals in these two games, I'd be
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  Speaker 1: over the moon. I'd be ecstatic. Unfortunately, two of those
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  Speaker 1: our own goals. By look, Katalian Bustoni ten goals. It's
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  Speaker 1: still great. And unfortunately, what nearly killed Italy today was
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  Speaker 1: the thing that for cent for decades was Italy's backbone,
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  Speaker 1: and that was defense. And it got us nervous. And
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  Speaker 1: they look so disjointed defensively. You know, I'm gonna have
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  Speaker 1: to criticize Gatuzo for even the subs he made. Bring
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  Speaker 1: on Malden when it was four to three, Why you
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  Speaker 1: bring on a four just throwing on another defender. But
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  Speaker 1: even the players, how many of the goals just left
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  Speaker 1: open Israel players in the box to have free will.
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  Speaker 4: It was.
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  Speaker 1: It was pretty embarrassing. This is type of the defending
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  Speaker 1: you see when you watch daf Montreal games in the MLS.
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  Speaker 1: So yeah, I mean, look, guys, let's get into it.
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  Speaker 1: The first half I think is not Italy strong suit right.
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  Speaker 1: I know Local Telly had the the own goal sixteenth minute.
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  Speaker 1: There was another goal that was waived off for a foul,
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  Speaker 1: and I know Kean did score in the fortieth so
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  Speaker 1: they did finish the half one one. But you could
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  Speaker 1: tell it was a bit it was a bit disjoined
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  Speaker 1: in the first half.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, big time.
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  Speaker 2: I mean from the get go r like you said, Nick,
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  Speaker 2: the you know that, I was like, okay, woof, you know,
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  Speaker 2: we got away with one with the with the foul
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  Speaker 2: and on the room of there the the opening goal
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  Speaker 2: there that would have been I think it was like
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  Speaker 2: in the third or fourth minute if I'm not mistaken,
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  Speaker 2: and then it's like okay, you know what, what's what's
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  Speaker 2: settle in here and and and let's let's go forward.
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  Speaker 2: And you know, uh, I mean I had I had
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  Speaker 2: quite a lot to say it for the uh for
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  Speaker 2: the own goal. I mean the local tell you it
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  Speaker 2: just it just it's terrible. It's like it leave it
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  Speaker 2: to the Azuri to make it more difficult than it
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  Speaker 2: has to be. It seems like we're you know, we've
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  Speaker 2: had a habit of doing this, uh, you know for
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  Speaker 2: a nation, like I've always said that has you know,
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  Speaker 2: four World Cups, you know historically has been you know,
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  Speaker 2: uh a cultural powerhouse. You know we're struggling against and
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  Speaker 2: again no no disrespect and all whatever, but like against
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  Speaker 2: Israel guys, like even you know, against Estonia that first
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  Speaker 2: half if you want to throw that in there, because
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  Speaker 2: it was like we kind of spoke off Aeroniic, you know,
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  Speaker 2: a bit of a wash of the first half.
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  Speaker 5: So uh, you.
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  Speaker 2: Know, I think they got away with uh it in
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  Speaker 2: the first game, you know, the five nil kind of
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  Speaker 2: you know, it looks good and I will get more
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  Speaker 2: into it as as the episode goes on, but just
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  Speaker 2: for this this this opening game, I mean that's opening
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  Speaker 2: sorry half for this game just.
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  Speaker 3: Again not good enough.
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  Speaker 2: You go behind, like I said on the own goal
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  Speaker 2: and you're playing catch up and you know what again,
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  Speaker 2: we'll talk about it more, but you know, thank god,
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  Speaker 2: we have finally something that you know is or someone sorry,
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  Speaker 2: that is finding the back of the end multiple multiple players,
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  Speaker 2: which that has been our biggest cry as a Zuti
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  Speaker 2: fans for the past how many tournaments since I couldn't
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  Speaker 2: even tell you, like how long ago it's been.
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  Speaker 3: It's been like.
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  Speaker 2: Forever that we've been waiting for a number nine. We've
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  Speaker 2: been waiting for goals. And like you said, and I
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  Speaker 2: don't definitely agree, and I don't know if we'll probably
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  Speaker 2: get into it right now, but you know, something that's
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  Speaker 2: been synonymous with with with with the Azuri, with with
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  Speaker 2: the Italian national team, with you know, you know, just
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  Speaker 2: the way you know, the SETI eye is and just
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  Speaker 2: our our culture around culture is you know, defensive, right,
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  Speaker 2: It's been tactical, it's been defensive.
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  Speaker 3: It's been defensively sound.
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  Speaker 2: You know, even in the you know, even in the
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  Speaker 2: in the days where you know, maybe some of the
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  Speaker 2: you know, the cornerstone defenders weren't called up whatever, the
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  Speaker 2: Italian just knew how to defend. And I'm sorry, but
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  Speaker 2: you know, it really wet us down in these two
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  Speaker 2: well in this match. Obviously we didn't get scored on
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  Speaker 2: in the first match, but still it's against Estonia and Israel.
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  Speaker 2: And again no no disrespect to these nations, but fuck guys,
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  Speaker 2: if we're Italy and we're and we're struggle against these
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  Speaker 2: team types of teams, like I could only imagine what
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  Speaker 2: happens when we play you know, a France or a
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  Speaker 2: Germany or you know, in England, a Portugal, Spain, you know, uh,
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  Speaker 2: these types of nations. So it's uh again, I don't
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  Speaker 2: know where you want to circle towards in the conversation, guys,
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  Speaker 2: but the defense is just was just terrible.
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  Speaker 3: I guess we could maybe start there.
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  Speaker 1: You feel like you're the technician. You probably saw everything
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  Speaker 1: that went wrong. Wow, four goals against well, so.
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  Speaker 3: I just want to because those two other.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, but they saw it to put the ball in
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  Speaker 4: the area to generate those own goals, right, yeah, I
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  Speaker 4: hear you.
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  Speaker 1: One thing I'll say about the own goals themselves. Just
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  Speaker 1: where's the technique? These guys are professional footballers. That's not
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  Speaker 1: how you clear a ball. That's how you stop all. Look,
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  Speaker 1: I haven't I haven't played soccer in almost ten years.
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  Speaker 1: I never I didn't play at a high level. I
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  Speaker 1: know that's not how you stop the ball. I know
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  Speaker 1: there's a proper technique to it. These guys know there's
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  Speaker 1: a proper technique, especially the local Telli one that was
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  Speaker 1: that was that was awful.
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  Speaker 4: It was a slow ball. It's a slow ball.
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  Speaker 1: The guy looks like he wants to go light down
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  Speaker 1: for a nap and the ball ends up the other
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  Speaker 1: way even you know, even the goal that was disallowed
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  Speaker 1: doing a ruma not good technique, punch it away. It's
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  Speaker 1: it's almost as if it's almost down to mindset, right,
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  Speaker 1: Like are they playing down to Israel's level? Do they
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  Speaker 1: think going to the all it's gonna be easy. It's
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  Speaker 1: Israel this and that, And then it gets into their
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  Speaker 1: heads and then they kind of forget the basics. I
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  Speaker 1: don't know. I don't know, John, you tell me so
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  Speaker 1: in the.
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  Speaker 4: Defense of these defenders, right, like I said in the
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  Speaker 4: group chat and shout out to Chris DeSantis for you know,
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  Speaker 4: kind of somewhat correcting me in a sense of like
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  Speaker 4: uh formations that they're used to play in. But majority
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  Speaker 4: of these players don't play in a three man back line.
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  Speaker 4: They don't. They don't. It's not like the years of
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  Speaker 4: like when we had the BBC of Bazagi, Bonuccin and Killini,
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  Speaker 4: that they've always played in the three man back line,
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  Speaker 4: that they were used to each other and they could
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  Speaker 4: function in any type of pivot like these guys. These
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  Speaker 4: guys don't. Uh Mancini in a sense where like he
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  Speaker 4: has like under Dranieti, there were moments he was playing
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  Speaker 4: with a four man back, and there was times were
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  Speaker 4: playing with a three man back, but the only times
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  Speaker 4: he would play in a three man back was under Ranieti.
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  Speaker 4: Besides that, Mancini was playing in a four man back
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  Speaker 4: line throughout most of his career. Bastoni is the one
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  Speaker 4: we can say out of all of them that has
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  Speaker 4: the experience of come back line. The Lorenzo should not
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  Speaker 4: be playing in the three man back. He is a
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  Speaker 4: four man back right back. He is not a three
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  Speaker 4: man back right back like he's on a He's not
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  Speaker 4: a natural CP that can handle that kind of responsibility.
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  Speaker 3: But they were playing for it. They were playing forth
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  Speaker 3: the back.
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  Speaker 4: Yes, but games it start off as four, but as
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  Speaker 4: you see it opened up, it opened up to three.
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  Speaker 4: It like officially was four. Like I agree with you,
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  Speaker 4: I agree with you, Adrian, But as soon as they
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  Speaker 4: had possession, it pivoted to a three, which looked weird
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  Speaker 4: to me. Honestly, it looked absolutely weird to me. But
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  Speaker 4: I mean, like, hey, if Gattuso wants to run it
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  Speaker 4: that way, like Gatuso run it that way. But like
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  Speaker 4: that back line themselves did not seem to be in
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  Speaker 4: sync with anything. Uh, you know, and That's that's what
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  Speaker 4: I think what the issue is that needs to be
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  Speaker 4: solved before the serious competition comes along. Because when you're
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  Speaker 4: when you're caught scrambling, especially when your first goal is
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  Speaker 4: an own goal, you're caught scrambling, and more often than not, like, uh,
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  Speaker 4: it's easy to capitalize in chaos. That's how that's how
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  Speaker 4: Israel was able to score the goals that they did
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  Speaker 4: because they caught they caught the Italian defense in a disarray.
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  Speaker 4: And like, I'm not gonna blame him Don Duman on
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  Speaker 4: the second goal that was a well play shot, the
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  Speaker 4: one where yea, yeah, yeah, well play shot nearly point blank.
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  Speaker 4: It's hard to save that. It's really hard to save that,
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  Speaker 4: so yeah, I'll give him the benefit of it out there, Uh,
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  Speaker 4: the one with the header, it's like he's a bit
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  Speaker 4: weird too in but also that like play went a
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  Speaker 4: bit quick, Like who's who's covering I can't remember the
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  Speaker 4: name of the player was scored, but who's covering him?
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  Speaker 4: It seemed like nobody had anyone And that's what it
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  Speaker 4: came down to. Nobody was talking, Nobody said I have
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  Speaker 4: this guy. Nobody's sicking to a man. That second goal
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  Speaker 4: that they scored Israel, like Local tell he seems like
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  Speaker 4: he wants to commit to the guy, but then he
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  Speaker 4: goes then he lets off. It's as if he's like
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  Speaker 4: he it's like he's about to commit, then he lets off,
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  Speaker 4: And I'm like, why the fuck is this guy letting up?
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  Speaker 4: Like I'm not shitting Locatelliti here like it, Like I'm
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  Speaker 4: I'm not hitting him just to shit on him. I'm saying, like,
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  Speaker 4: why do you mentally want to let off the guy,
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  Speaker 4: like like commit to him, put a two on one,
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  Speaker 4: you know what I mean, like force choke up the ball,
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  Speaker 4: you know, don't like you're respecting him too much. You know,
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  Speaker 4: it's okay to commit. You have guys like and and
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  Speaker 4: that call, Like I said, it causes a disarray. And
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  Speaker 4: I think that's what pretty much cost them this game,
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  Speaker 4: because it seems like offensively, there's things that are clicking
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  Speaker 4: and and this was what this was basically what Gatuso
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  Speaker 4: was Monopoly that offensively they were good, but their back
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  Speaker 4: half of the game was lacking like some depth, you know,
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  Speaker 4: so like it helped that you have players like le
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  Speaker 4: Bale and stuff to kind of mitigate that. But all
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  Speaker 4: in all, if you don't have players that are used
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  Speaker 4: to this kind of formation, you're gonna put them in
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  Speaker 4: positions to lose. So I think that that's that like
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  Speaker 4: they need to work on that, I think. But in
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  Speaker 4: his defense, is Gatuso's second game with the team, he's
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  Speaker 4: trying to find something that works, and he's going with
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  Speaker 4: with what he knows and uh.
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  Speaker 3: And we spoke about it a lot.
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  Speaker 2: I think was the last week, you know what, you know,
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  Speaker 2: what what formation do you like?
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  Speaker 4: Do we think we're gonna we're gonna see with him?
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  Speaker 4: And I know you brought it up.
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  Speaker 2: I think it was last week, Jenny and I we
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  Speaker 2: saw multiple right, we we we definitely saw multiple facets
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  Speaker 2: of of his for whatever formations he wanted to put
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  Speaker 2: out that.
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  Speaker 3: The first game was more you know a four two
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  Speaker 3: three one, you know, kind of a four three three.
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  Speaker 3: We saw a bit of the four four two.
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  Speaker 2: Uh that that weird three back if you want to say,
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  Speaker 2: because I feel like a lot of we really we
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  Speaker 2: had a we had a high line.
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  Speaker 3: I think, especially in the first game, we had a
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  Speaker 3: really high line.
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  Speaker 2: We got away with it in terms of, you know,
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  Speaker 2: we were able to produce on their side and still
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  Speaker 2: not let anything back. But this game, I think we're
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  Speaker 2: still playing a bit of a high line. You know,
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  Speaker 2: you kind of have some of these defenders that like
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  Speaker 2: to go forward. I know calor Fiody didn't get minutes today,
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  Speaker 2: but he's a player that likes to go forward as
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  Speaker 2: as a center back, you know, buts Tooni, we know
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  Speaker 2: he can do that as well.
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  Speaker 4: And you know, even even our wing backs.
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  Speaker 2: Like those guys though those through forward. So somebody has
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  Speaker 2: to kind of fill in the fill in the gaps
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  Speaker 2: in the back. And if it be a guy with now,
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  Speaker 2: if it be a guy with but if it be
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  Speaker 2: you know, a guy like local Telly today, you know
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  Speaker 2: it's uh so we've seen so far in a short
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  Speaker 2: sample size, small sample size rather uh you know, different formations,
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  Speaker 2: a bit of different players obviously, And to be honest
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  Speaker 2: with you, I didn't mind the shape of it.
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  Speaker 3: I just think.
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  Speaker 2: The way we committed too much forward and and Gatuso
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  Speaker 2: said it in the press conferences.
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  Speaker 4: I went specifically to watch these press conferences you.
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  Speaker 2: Know pre uh you know, pre uh pre match.
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  Speaker 4: No.
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  Speaker 3: I was because we had we had we had a point.
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  Speaker 2: On that right nick back when when it was POWETI
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  Speaker 2: in the s POETI days where it was always like
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  Speaker 2: this philosophical answer in the in the press conferences, everything
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  Speaker 2: was always good and nothing, you know this and that.
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  Speaker 2: And it's like I knew I wasn't gonna hear that
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  Speaker 2: with Gatuzo because he's no nonsense and we all know that.
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  Speaker 3: I just wanted to see, like what he was going
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  Speaker 3: to say.
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  Speaker 2: And you know he even he even said for for
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  Speaker 2: the for for the ise game before the zero game,
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  Speaker 2: you know, he said yesterday.
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  Speaker 3: In the press, in the press, you know this team
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  Speaker 3: is still dangerous.
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  Speaker 2: This is you know, they might not be as physical
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  Speaker 2: as maybe like an Estonia or or you know, those
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  Speaker 2: types of nations, but you know they'll catch you on
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  Speaker 2: the counter and they'll there they'll be able to hurt.
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  Speaker 3: You, and they'll be able to score goals.
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  Speaker 2: I mean, was it always a counter attacking goal that
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  Speaker 2: you know we suffered from today. No, But at the
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  Speaker 2: same time they were dangerous. They attacked us, you know,
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  Speaker 2: they they put the pressure on us instead of only
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  Speaker 2: absorbing our pressure.
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  Speaker 3: So he called it.
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  Speaker 2: And you know, it's unfortunately that they couldn't put it
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  Speaker 2: together in terms of on the pitch, because again, like
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  Speaker 2: if it wasn't for this, this slug fest back and
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  Speaker 2: forth any other day.
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  Speaker 3: That's you know, guys, that's a loss. Yeah, and that's
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  Speaker 3: what hurts.
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  Speaker 4: And I'm happy you brought it up about uh, like
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  Speaker 4: strangeness and like different things like like and especially but
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  Speaker 4: Barella that you brought up, like Barella today played as
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  Speaker 4: a winger, which did not make.
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  Speaker 2: It before to fourth two you was out. He was
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  Speaker 2: left side from uh Politano right was on the right.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, and that's why I made that tweet where I'm like, like,
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  Speaker 4: Barela has to always play the strangest and weirdest positions
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  Speaker 4: on the national team. Against the Switzerland game, mind you,
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  Speaker 4: was due because of injuries and because of limited what
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  Speaker 4: we had on the bench, but you have to play
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  Speaker 4: put him as a defensive mid in the Switzerland game.
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  Speaker 4: In the Euros when we lost two zero, it's like
• 15:30
  Speaker 4: Badola should be at lowest center mid, at lowist. Besides that,
• 15:35
  Speaker 4: he put him you put him in the offensive half.
• 15:37
  Speaker 4: But anyways, but like and then you would see him
• 15:39
  Speaker 4: at one point on the right side, but it was
• 15:40
  Speaker 4: all the way and the bottom left, you know, supporting
• 15:43
  Speaker 4: the d and stuff like he was all over the place.
• 15:45
  Speaker 4: Because I'm pretty sure Badella himself had no idea what
• 15:49
  Speaker 4: to do, not like and the thing. But that's the
• 15:51
  Speaker 4: thing about playing under Gatuzo, like because you could see
• 15:54
  Speaker 4: like a player like Dimaco and Barella will be appreciated
• 15:57
  Speaker 4: by Gatuzo because even though they're not having the best
• 15:59
  Speaker 4: technical game, these guys are always playing with their heart
• 16:01
  Speaker 4: and he's always gonna, like give them the time and
• 16:03
  Speaker 4: the minutes for it. You know. That's why I think Cambiaso,
• 16:06
  Speaker 4: by the way, if you if you want to change
• 16:07
  Speaker 4: to a three man backline or format, if you're gonna, sorry,
• 16:09
  Speaker 4: if you're gonna go towards the format back line, tryout
• 16:11
  Speaker 4: Cambiasso on the right. I think Cambiaso is the perfect
• 16:14
  Speaker 4: Totoso player. But that's just me.
• 16:17
  Speaker 2: You know what he's pushing even for DeMarco spot if
• 16:19
  Speaker 2: I'm honest, because you know he's come on and again
• 16:24
  Speaker 2: small sample size that I don't want to we shouldn't
• 16:26
  Speaker 2: be like, you know, glazing these players out their performance
• 16:28
  Speaker 2: like today, but you know he's come on and he's
• 16:31
  Speaker 2: made somewhat of an impact.
• 16:32
  Speaker 3: You know, is he the most defensively sound That's that's
• 16:34
  Speaker 3: the thing.
• 16:34
  Speaker 4: I was like, like, I don't think we're placing them. No, no, no, no,
• 16:37
  Speaker 4: but just you know what I mean, yeah.
• 16:39
  Speaker 2: Yeah, no, you know what I mean, Like you know,
• 16:43
  Speaker 2: he's come on, he's he's he's made an impact. You know,
• 16:45
  Speaker 2: DeMarco in this second game looked a little bit. In
• 16:48
  Speaker 2: my opinion, he looked better in the first game, if
• 16:49
  Speaker 2: I'm honest, and then this second game, you know, both
• 16:52
  Speaker 2: times that he came off and Cambiaso came on, you know,
• 16:56
  Speaker 2: mut he made an impact. So it's something and again
• 16:59
  Speaker 2: that that's that's that's a good problem to have, you know,
• 17:01
  Speaker 2: like to have those options to come off the bench.
• 17:03
  Speaker 3: You know, if it be you know, de Marco in
• 17:05
  Speaker 3: the first.
• 17:06
  Speaker 2: Half and and and you can be also on the
• 17:08
  Speaker 2: second or vice versa. You kind of have that flexibility
• 17:10
  Speaker 2: of going tours and then you know, I mean, I
• 17:14
  Speaker 2: don't know, even Tonali, man, it's guy.
• 17:15
  Speaker 3: They run all game long.
• 17:18
  Speaker 2: Like it's it's crazy, like we saw you know, Barella
• 17:23
  Speaker 2: on the left on the left side with with DeMarco.
• 17:28
  Speaker 2: But if you if you're playing those three midfielders play
• 17:32
  Speaker 2: the fourth three to three, like you know, I don't
• 17:35
  Speaker 2: get it, Like you had the three midfielders you had Barella,
• 17:38
  Speaker 2: Tonali look at Eli and you had the three attackers
• 17:42
  Speaker 2: keen the taggy and Politano play the fourth three three
• 17:46
  Speaker 2: attack that way, I know, we know Politano will do
• 17:52
  Speaker 2: the dirty work if he wants to go up and
• 17:53
  Speaker 2: down and it shifts to that four to fourth two
• 17:55
  Speaker 2: like we end up scene throughout the game and we
• 17:59
  Speaker 2: know he'll do that dirty work.
• 18:00
  Speaker 3: He works well obviously with the Orenzo on his on
• 18:02
  Speaker 3: his right hand side.
• 18:03
  Speaker 2: You know they play together and not so that connection
• 18:06
  Speaker 2: is there, but you know, like it just kind of
• 18:09
  Speaker 2: still looked lost, and honestly, it's a shame because it
• 18:13
  Speaker 2: almost felt and I always hate this guys, and you know,
• 18:16
  Speaker 2: me playing not to lose rather than going out to
• 18:19
  Speaker 2: win like that is my biggest pet peeve with sports
• 18:23
  Speaker 2: in general, especially cult because we see a lot in
• 18:27
  Speaker 2: in in in in football and soccer. So I don't know,
• 18:32
  Speaker 2: like it was. It was one of these things. And
• 18:34
  Speaker 2: it's crazy because you have a guy like Gattuso and
• 18:38
  Speaker 2: maybe I'm gonna be a bit with the blinders and
• 18:40
  Speaker 2: I'm gonna have more of a softball for the for
• 18:42
  Speaker 2: Gatuso because I'm such a fan, like I love Gatuzo,
• 18:47
  Speaker 2: but you have a guy like that on the bench
• 18:49
  Speaker 2: that is gonna is gonna, it's gonna eat you if
• 18:52
  Speaker 2: if you make a mistake, right, and.
• 18:54
  Speaker 3: And he's gonna and he's gonna really like show all
• 18:57
  Speaker 3: the passion. And again I don't know the half they woke.
• 19:00
  Speaker 2: They looked slow, they did they weren't there Like the
• 19:03
  Speaker 2: Lorenzo I think didn't have a great game today as well.
• 19:06
  Speaker 2: I mean not many players didn't. But you know, it's
• 19:10
  Speaker 2: just one of these things. And I don't know Nick
• 19:12
  Speaker 2: anything to add, like.
• 19:15
  Speaker 4: But before before Nick got sorry, I have to agree
• 19:17
  Speaker 4: with you there, but it's just just agree with your
• 19:19
  Speaker 4: point about the the fact that Gottuzzo is not gonna
• 19:22
  Speaker 4: accept He's not like he's not gonna accept. Yeah, And
• 19:26
  Speaker 4: but we see that with the players though, we see
• 19:27
  Speaker 4: the fact that we do yeah, like like like I'm sorry,
• 19:30
  Speaker 4: this is the first time I actually started like like
• 19:33
  Speaker 4: when especially like especially when when Israel scored the second goal,
• 19:39
  Speaker 4: like uh, like there was half a second where I'm like, fuck,
• 19:42
  Speaker 4: like nail the coffin. But then I'm like like like
• 19:46
  Speaker 4: after readily afterwards, when Moisten scored, I'm like, oh fuck,
• 19:48
  Speaker 4: this is a different group like you could see the
• 19:50
  Speaker 4: mentality is different now, it's it. They're definitely they they
• 19:55
  Speaker 4: definitely have that grinta and he's definitely gonna reward those
• 19:58
  Speaker 4: players that demonstrate the fact that it's like, okay, enough
• 20:01
  Speaker 4: with these fucking embarrassments for the past like eight years,
• 20:03
  Speaker 4: eight ten years. Now it's time to change things up.
• 20:06
  Speaker 4: Like he doesn't like gatoosos me to kind of coach
• 20:08
  Speaker 4: where he's like, I don't care if we lose in
• 20:09
  Speaker 4: a quarterfinal or a semi final, but if we go
• 20:12
  Speaker 4: down fighting, that's all I care about. That's that's the
• 20:14
  Speaker 4: type of manager he's like, he just wants to go
• 20:16
  Speaker 4: down fighting. If you win, fantastic and if you lose,
• 20:19
  Speaker 4: like go with Like at least you could say you
• 20:20
  Speaker 4: could leave the pitch and say like I did everything
• 20:22
  Speaker 4: I could.
• 20:23
  Speaker 3: Head head held high.
• 20:24
  Speaker 4: Yeah, that's and that the end of the Sorry, no,
• 20:28
  Speaker 4: I just want to say, like, especially with that tonality goal,
• 20:31
  Speaker 4: like it it showed the team. They showed with the
• 20:33
  Speaker 4: team like yeah, I know we're not fucking round and
• 20:35
  Speaker 4: also before just a less little point. Yeah, first time
• 20:39
  Speaker 4: ever in Italian soccer history that they have scored five.
• 20:44
  Speaker 2: Goals onto back to back games, no, but on the
• 20:48
  Speaker 2: road for a quality. And also it's the first time
• 20:51
  Speaker 2: in the history that they've scored consecutive games with five goals.
• 20:54
  Speaker 3: They've never it's never happened.
• 20:56
  Speaker 2: So things are changing there is and I agree what
• 21:00
  Speaker 2: you're there and the.
• 21:01
  Speaker 3: Players have even said it too.
• 21:02
  Speaker 2: Uh you know, what's the differences with you know under
• 21:06
  Speaker 2: Gutuoso this and that.
• 21:08
  Speaker 3: Besides you know the tactical stuff he's like, well, you know,
• 21:11
  Speaker 3: they he woke us up.
• 21:12
  Speaker 2: You know, the value of the talent was there, but
• 21:14
  Speaker 2: we had we needed you know, we needed that kick
• 21:17
  Speaker 2: in the ass a bit.
• 21:18
  Speaker 3: You know, you need a brutal hula a bit.
• 21:20
  Speaker 2: You know, you gotta you gotta, you gotta have that
• 21:22
  Speaker 2: a little bit of fire, right, So, and and it
• 21:25
  Speaker 2: shown because and I agree again, sorry to cut you off, Nick.
• 21:29
  Speaker 3: I agree with what you said, Johnny, because what.
• 21:33
  Speaker 2: Post euros up until maybe this point, we would have
• 21:38
  Speaker 2: probably watched this game we best tie and I don't
• 21:42
  Speaker 2: think and that nail in the coffin comment that you made,
• 21:45
  Speaker 2: we would have been sunk. Like if we would have
• 21:47
  Speaker 2: been down, we wouldn't have been able to come back
• 21:50
  Speaker 2: and back and back like two or three times in
• 21:53
  Speaker 2: a in a match. I don't least I don't think.
• 21:55
  Speaker 4: So I get, like.
• 21:56
  Speaker 2: I said, post that little down period, post Euros till
• 21:59
  Speaker 2: I guess the end of Spalletti era. So there's a change, Like,
• 22:06
  Speaker 2: don't get me wrong, there is a change. It speaks volumes.
• 22:08
  Speaker 2: You know the stat that you said, Johnny, five goals
• 22:10
  Speaker 2: on the road the qualifier, two back to back games
• 22:13
  Speaker 2: consecutively scoring five goals, the first time in Italian national
• 22:16
  Speaker 2: team history, Like these are these are these are big
• 22:19
  Speaker 2: stats that I was gonna even say to myself.
• 22:22
  Speaker 3: I was like, and I was gonna bring it on tonight.
• 22:24
  Speaker 2: If if I didn't see that started earlier, I was like,
• 22:26
  Speaker 2: when the fuck did we ever see five goals for Italy?
• 22:28
  Speaker 2: We never see five goals. We want five goals, we
• 22:31
  Speaker 2: never see it. Today, you know this window, we get
• 22:33
  Speaker 2: two back to back games. So there is some change,
• 22:36
  Speaker 2: but I think there needs to be more. Obviously that
• 22:38
  Speaker 2: that comes in the future.
• 22:41
  Speaker 1: The reason I put up this jersey is because this
• 22:45
  Speaker 1: is the last time the team scored this many goals
• 22:48
  Speaker 1: as far as I can remember. The men engineer at
• 22:50
  Speaker 1: the twenty nineteen the qualifying for the Euros. I just
• 22:53
  Speaker 1: need a. I just need to pull it up because
• 22:58
  Speaker 1: remember there was games like nine to nothing in Player
• 23:00
  Speaker 1: when they qualified for Euro twenty.
• 23:02
  Speaker 3: Twenty seven nothing whatever, Yeah.
• 23:06
  Speaker 1: Nine to one against Armenia in Clermo November twenty eighteen.
• 23:11
  Speaker 1: They beat Linkednstein Linkedinstein in five nothing, but it wasn't
• 23:15
  Speaker 1: back to back games. So yeah, that that that was
• 23:19
  Speaker 1: their best recent qualifying campaign. Okay, mind you it's the Euros.
• 23:23
  Speaker 1: It was the Euros, but that was the stretch where
• 23:26
  Speaker 1: they win what thirty four, thirty five, thirty six seven
• 23:28
  Speaker 1: on beats and whatever. It was obviously, you know, capping
• 23:30
  Speaker 1: off with the Euros win. But that's guys, that's the
• 23:33
  Speaker 1: next point. I wanted to bring up. Offense. Look, ten
• 23:36
  Speaker 1: goals scored well, two by Rittigie against Estonia, King won
• 23:42
  Speaker 1: against Estonia, two today against Israel Respiratory one each. BOSTONI
• 23:46
  Speaker 1: won for Italy won against Italy. Politano added the goal.
• 23:50
  Speaker 1: What I really liked though, Retta four assists and some
• 23:53
  Speaker 1: of those is just were beautiful, the back he the
• 23:56
  Speaker 1: back heel against so only. I did a similar thing
• 24:01
  Speaker 1: today with Respiratory. For me, I really like Politano. For me,
• 24:08
  Speaker 1: I really like the fact that they're playing two sh
• 24:11
  Speaker 1: shriggers up top. I know you guys are just talking
• 24:13
  Speaker 1: about formation this and that, but they look good together.
• 24:16
  Speaker 1: And it's surprising because these are two guys that never
• 24:19
  Speaker 1: played together at the club level, have barely played together
• 24:22
  Speaker 1: at the national team level. And there are two guys
• 24:26
  Speaker 1: that I don't know if you could describe Ritigiz chip
• 24:29
  Speaker 1: on shoulder, you know, chip on the shoulder type of guy,
• 24:32
  Speaker 1: but definitely keen right, yes, yes, small his hype and
• 24:36
  Speaker 1: you know him going if you're in Tina, proving himself.
• 24:38
  Speaker 1: But you know what, even Ritter Gee coming in kind
• 24:40
  Speaker 1: of kind of an unknown right both to the national
• 24:43
  Speaker 1: team and to the city. Yes, now he got his
• 24:46
  Speaker 1: big contract, he's in Saudi Arabia, but even at the
• 24:49
  Speaker 1: national team level, he st has to prove himself, right,
• 24:52
  Speaker 1: you know, one game one name I even want to
• 24:54
  Speaker 1: throw Respiradoria as well. Uh still needs to prove himself.
• 24:57
  Speaker 1: And look, eight goals now is in nine?
• 25:02
  Speaker 3: Yeah?
• 25:02
  Speaker 4: Ten?
• 25:02
  Speaker 1: With the goal today already passed twenty with the amount
• 25:05
  Speaker 1: of goals.
• 25:05
  Speaker 4: No, sorry, it might be eleven. I think it's eleven.
• 25:08
  Speaker 4: It's nine today.
• 25:09
  Speaker 3: He was tired with ten.
• 25:12
  Speaker 1: No, I thought he was remember we were discussing the.
• 25:14
  Speaker 4: Other probably had eight and four in four years. It
• 25:16
  Speaker 4: was probably it was ten.
• 25:17
  Speaker 3: It was ten. Chuck chucked the chucked the somebody checked
• 25:19
  Speaker 3: the message.
• 25:20
  Speaker 4: I'm on my finnational team top scoreres typing it up
• 25:23
  Speaker 4: right now.
• 25:26
  Speaker 1: Eleven goals.
• 25:28
  Speaker 3: I told you eleven with today's goal.
• 25:30
  Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly, so now he passed Yeah so eleven years. Yeah. Look,
• 25:36
  Speaker 1: the all time score for Italy is I think thirty
• 25:39
  Speaker 1: five goals. Like we're going to see it in our lifetime.
• 25:41
  Speaker 1: Who's going to exactly thirty five goals? Not a lot,
• 25:46
  Speaker 1: But it's just because over the years there's never been
• 25:49
  Speaker 1: a consistent goal scorer. Anyways.
• 25:51
  Speaker 4: Uh, but Lot, he's got twelve goals. That's crazy, very
• 25:55
  Speaker 4: but lot. The oh I love he's got twelve. This
• 25:59
  Speaker 4: guy has ship it from an offensive dugging out to
• 26:01
  Speaker 4: it just a defensive four and he's got.
• 26:05
  Speaker 1: How many How many were in that game against the
• 26:07
  Speaker 1: Armenia back in twenty nineteen anyways, Yeah, so yeah, I
• 26:19
  Speaker 1: really like King, Like obviously I think the fact that
• 26:22
  Speaker 1: he kind of redeemed himself. But I want to see
• 26:25
  Speaker 1: this against you know, coming up, the next set of
• 26:28
  Speaker 1: games is against Moldova, Uh, Sonia, Moldova, it's Israel, and
• 26:35
  Speaker 1: it's Israel and Sonia again. Yeah, and then Moldova and
• 26:38
  Speaker 1: Norway at the end. So you know, what's important is
• 26:42
  Speaker 1: the consistency right the two games. Yeah, but I yeah, like,
• 26:48
  Speaker 1: like I said, what I liked is it is the chemistry,
• 26:51
  Speaker 1: the fluidity between players who never really played together, even
• 26:54
  Speaker 1: even you know, throwing red to ge with respidor Retigi
• 26:56
  Speaker 1: with Politano. Yes, Respidori and Politano which other but Rettigee
• 27:01
  Speaker 1: doesn't know the other two as well up besides the
• 27:03
  Speaker 1: national team. They never played together at the club bubble.
• 27:06
  Speaker 1: But obviously you guys think this is something they have
• 27:09
  Speaker 1: to move forward with the two strikers at least at
• 27:11
  Speaker 1: least for now. Stay with the hot hand, right, keep
• 27:14
  Speaker 1: it keen Ri to ye, there's no question about it.
• 27:16
  Speaker 4: Yeah. If it's not broken, don't fix it like that's
• 27:18
  Speaker 4: that's that's what it is, like it. If you're developing
• 27:20
  Speaker 4: a winning formula from this, then then keep it up,
• 27:23
  Speaker 4: keep on. Like It's like, I don't think there's much
• 27:26
  Speaker 4: to discuss. I feel like maybe Adri you might feel
• 27:28
  Speaker 4: the same way about me. It's like it's working great,
• 27:31
  Speaker 4: leave it as is, like, because like, if we're getting
• 27:33
  Speaker 4: this crazy offensive production from these two, let's keep that's
• 27:36
  Speaker 4: always been the biggest bane of our fucking existence. Where
• 27:39
  Speaker 4: it's like, offensively really hasn't been the strongest nation. But like,
• 27:42
  Speaker 4: if we can have some kind of offense right now,
• 27:44
  Speaker 4: maybe that's what we need to head start heading towards.
• 27:46
  Speaker 4: Maybe that might be the fix to this, to the
• 27:49
  Speaker 4: woes of the national team. I know we've always been
• 27:52
  Speaker 4: a team of formation tactics and defensive soundness, but you know,
• 27:56
  Speaker 4: in an error where our defense isn't as as potent
• 28:00
  Speaker 4: as he used to be, let's look at what we
• 28:02
  Speaker 4: can offer offensively, especially when we have a very strong
• 28:04
  Speaker 4: myth to support them too, Like our midfielders are phenomenal already.
• 28:07
  Speaker 4: So I feel like, as if not broken, don't fix it,
• 28:10
  Speaker 4: go keep on keeping on.
• 28:12
  Speaker 2: Yeah no, I just add I like it too, I
• 28:15
  Speaker 2: don't get me wrong. And again, with the fluidity of formations,
• 28:18
  Speaker 2: that can can definitely that can arise in the future.
• 28:21
  Speaker 2: Whatever Gatuzo kind of sticks with or changes in game,
• 28:25
  Speaker 2: you know, allows to have you know, the multiple forwards
• 28:28
  Speaker 2: up top. Again, I don't know is he did he
• 28:31
  Speaker 2: start with with these these two forwards, because he knew
• 28:34
  Speaker 2: he needed results fast. He knew he needed to catch
• 28:37
  Speaker 2: up in the you know, in the goal differential if
• 28:39
  Speaker 2: he if they really want to try to push for
• 28:41
  Speaker 2: that first in case, you know, Norway slips up somewhere
• 28:44
  Speaker 2: along this way till the end, it's possible.
• 28:47
  Speaker 4: I I don't know.
• 28:49
  Speaker 2: The only thing that scares me, not scares me, but
• 28:51
  Speaker 2: worries me a bit is if you know, who comes
• 28:53
  Speaker 2: off the bend tray? Who who's that? Who's that super
• 28:57
  Speaker 2: sob if you want to say, I know what els
• 28:59
  Speaker 2: but he has been has been kind of getting that
• 29:01
  Speaker 2: in these his past two games. But what's what's after that?
• 29:06
  Speaker 2: Because if you kind of throw all your all, you know,
• 29:10
  Speaker 2: throw all your I don't know what you want to
• 29:11
  Speaker 2: throw out, all your your bullets out and what you
• 29:15
  Speaker 2: have on.
• 29:16
  Speaker 3: What do you have?
• 29:16
  Speaker 4: You know?
• 29:16
  Speaker 2: And your host right so there, you know, it's that's
• 29:19
  Speaker 2: the only thing that kind of worries me, you know,
• 29:21
  Speaker 2: in this call up with you know, with again, I
• 29:23
  Speaker 2: know Scamaka doesn't really show up for the national team,
• 29:26
  Speaker 2: but again you lose a guy like Skamakah for these games.
• 29:30
  Speaker 2: You know, congratulations too, Posito, who got his his his
• 29:34
  Speaker 2: debut in the game against Estonia. There he looks like
• 29:38
  Speaker 2: an interesting obviously profile that I think it would be
• 29:42
  Speaker 2: nice to kind of get him more acclimated.
• 29:45
  Speaker 3: But then again, like you know, who who who comes on?
• 29:48
  Speaker 2: If if you're if you're playing only the if you're
• 29:50
  Speaker 2: playing with these two forwards that are really hot right
• 29:53
  Speaker 2: now and that are producing for you.
• 29:55
  Speaker 3: If that doesn't work, then what's the plan?
• 29:57
  Speaker 2: B I want to be I want to see that,
• 29:59
  Speaker 2: like I want to h I want to see what
• 30:01
  Speaker 2: Gatuso chooses.
• 30:02
  Speaker 3: And what he what he goes towards.
• 30:05
  Speaker 2: Is he gonna, you know, stick with the you know,
• 30:08
  Speaker 2: the two forwards and and he's lucky that a guy
• 30:10
  Speaker 2: like Keem can kind of play all over like.
• 30:12
  Speaker 3: It's two forwards.
• 30:13
  Speaker 2: Yes, but you know if you kind of play that
• 30:15
  Speaker 2: four three three, you're adding that that the other winger.
• 30:18
  Speaker 2: So in this case, you know, it be a Politano
• 30:20
  Speaker 2: if it could be. Uh, you know, we saw it's
• 30:22
  Speaker 2: like Kanye in the first game. Who again, I know
• 30:24
  Speaker 2: he kind of got a bit of ship for his game,
• 30:26
  Speaker 2: but I didn't find him all too bad in the
• 30:28
  Speaker 2: first In the first Uh, in the first game, a
• 30:32
  Speaker 2: guy like Orsolini that can come on as well, even
• 30:35
  Speaker 2: though again I didn't find he really looked the best
• 30:39
  Speaker 2: if I'm if I'm being honest when he came on.
• 30:41
  Speaker 2: But again, you know what Nick said earlier, Uh, you
• 30:45
  Speaker 2: bring off, you take off, sorry a guy like uh
• 30:49
  Speaker 2: the taggy late in the game. You bring on Daniel Maldini.
• 30:52
  Speaker 2: You know that's not the that's not the sub that
• 30:54
  Speaker 2: I want to I I mean, don't get me wrong.
• 30:57
  Speaker 2: I like Daniel Malnedy sure, but doesn't really push the
• 31:00
  Speaker 2: needle for me coming off the bench. You know, we
• 31:01
  Speaker 2: need a killer, and you bringing on Daniel Maldini was
• 31:04
  Speaker 2: more of an attacking midfielder if you want to call them,
• 31:07
  Speaker 2: maybe a winger if you if you want.
• 31:09
  Speaker 4: He's not really a true striker.
• 31:10
  Speaker 2: So that's the only thing that I'm kind of keeping
• 31:13
  Speaker 2: in the back burner and want to see what happens
• 31:15
  Speaker 2: the if.
• 31:17
  Speaker 3: But like you guys kind of teed it up there.
• 31:19
  Speaker 4: You know, these guys are.
• 31:20
  Speaker 2: They're informed, they're playing well, they have the hot foot
• 31:24
  Speaker 2: if you will, and they're scoring. And you know, us,
• 31:28
  Speaker 2: the Italians, we can't what were we going to say?
• 31:31
  Speaker 2: We've been waiting for a striker for how long now,
• 31:34
  Speaker 2: you know, after what about telli Era there we had
• 31:38
  Speaker 2: you know, iMobile Cheatoh yes, but again it took some
• 31:43
  Speaker 2: fucking some uh you know, some pushing and shoving for
• 31:47
  Speaker 2: him to get going. You know, a guy Bilotti too,
• 31:49
  Speaker 2: he had his moments. But you know, let's see if
• 31:52
  Speaker 2: these guys are the next two. Personally, I think Keen
• 31:56
  Speaker 2: is more confident. You see it, You see it that
• 31:59
  Speaker 2: when you put he's a more confident player. I think
• 32:03
  Speaker 2: he's found a bit of a home at field in
• 32:05
  Speaker 2: Tina that's helped him grow for sure. So listen if
• 32:11
  Speaker 2: it keeps on going, and I say continue with it,
• 32:14
  Speaker 2: Like I said, I like the f fluidity with it that,
• 32:16
  Speaker 2: you know, because in my in my eyes, he is
• 32:21
  Speaker 2: a true nine. I think Keen is a nine as well.
• 32:25
  Speaker 2: But like if you think protypical number nine, I look
• 32:28
  Speaker 2: towards maybe a bit more like a guy like the tegy,
• 32:30
  Speaker 2: but Kean can also play that role. But he's so
• 32:33
  Speaker 2: dynamic that he can play wherever he wants in the
• 32:35
  Speaker 2: front line, and I think he can produce.
• 32:37
  Speaker 3: He has the speed. They play off well with each.
• 32:39
  Speaker 2: Other, and they've even said it in there in there,
• 32:41
  Speaker 2: you know they're to the bits and press conferences and whatever.
• 32:44
  Speaker 2: You know, they like to play with each other. And
• 32:46
  Speaker 2: again I wasn't sure if that was gonna work. We
• 32:49
  Speaker 2: hadn't really seen it. Put to his faith in these two,
• 32:53
  Speaker 2: and they're so far they're repaying that that trust and
• 32:56
  Speaker 2: that faith. But again, two games, it's small sample size.
• 33:02
  Speaker 3: It's not enough.
• 33:03
  Speaker 2: We still need We need to win out. Who said
• 33:05
  Speaker 2: it last week? I think Nick said it. We need
• 33:06
  Speaker 2: to win out right, Nick, like guys like, it's it's
• 33:09
  Speaker 2: as simple as that. We need to win out. And
• 33:12
  Speaker 2: if it takes playing these two forwards in addition to
• 33:18
  Speaker 2: potentially a third uh you know, if it'd be a
• 33:20
  Speaker 2: fourth through three of that the other winger again, whoever,
• 33:22
  Speaker 2: it might be on the right hand side or left
• 33:24
  Speaker 2: hand side, So so be it.
• 33:27
  Speaker 4: What would it be? I say, like you guys said,
• 33:29
  Speaker 4: I say, go go for it.
• 33:31
  Speaker 2: But but yeah, it just I hope it continues.
• 33:35
  Speaker 4: I don't know if it will, but I hope it
• 33:36
  Speaker 4: continues because.
• 33:39
  Speaker 3: And what burns me even more is those two own goals.
• 33:43
  Speaker 2: Like currently we're in second place with this win, right,
• 33:45
  Speaker 2: nine points were a plus five goal differential.
• 33:48
  Speaker 3: I'm not mistaken. One above Israel now six behind.
• 33:53
  Speaker 2: Uh norway right, those two goals, those two empty, those
• 33:58
  Speaker 2: two empty and that goals, so two own goals. Sorry,
• 34:00
  Speaker 2: they don't they don't go their way, Israel's way. We're
• 34:03
  Speaker 2: a plus seven, we're only what four goals behind. So
• 34:07
  Speaker 2: you know, it's these small details, guys that I think
• 34:09
  Speaker 2: they need to iron out, because Gatuzo.
• 34:11
  Speaker 3: Has said it.
• 34:12
  Speaker 2: You know, uh, you know, we we were playing well,
• 34:18
  Speaker 2: we're doing well. But it's crazy how an Italy side
• 34:21
  Speaker 2: like this allows these incredible goals from the opposition at
• 34:26
  Speaker 2: such ease. At such ease, we're basically allowing them to
• 34:31
  Speaker 2: show out against us, which is the thing I think
• 34:33
  Speaker 2: they need to really work on. I kind of wanted
• 34:35
  Speaker 2: to maybe circle back to we spoke about the attack.
• 34:37
  Speaker 2: I kind of want to maybe circle back to the
• 34:38
  Speaker 2: defense quickly after. But I'll want you to go, Nick,
• 34:40
  Speaker 2: I think you had something to add in there.
• 34:42
  Speaker 1: No, I want to talk about the standings because I
• 34:45
  Speaker 1: kind of rute it up. It would have been yeah,
• 34:46
  Speaker 1: I wouldn't to. I wanted to transition about that way.
• 34:49
  Speaker 1: Toll points four games play. They played tomorrow against Moldova.
• 34:52
  Speaker 1: It'll leads right behind four games nine points. Israel's right there,
• 34:56
  Speaker 1: they have the extra game, five games, nine points. Uh
• 34:59
  Speaker 1: So how it works, type ckers. The first is goal
• 35:02
  Speaker 1: differential for all the games, so goal differential for all
• 35:07
  Speaker 1: the game all so today, like you said, the own
• 35:10
  Speaker 1: goals really counted.
• 35:11
  Speaker 4: It's hurt. It hurts.
• 35:13
  Speaker 1: They're basically six behind Norway right now. Okay, you take
• 35:16
  Speaker 1: you take away three from the game against Norway. You know,
• 35:20
  Speaker 1: if you want to compare just the games played outside
• 35:24
  Speaker 1: of Italy Norway, Norway has gone in higher differential against
• 35:29
  Speaker 1: the same opponents as Italy. Look, they played away against
• 35:32
  Speaker 1: Israel four two, so there's that two goal differential that
• 35:36
  Speaker 1: Italy could have even done better on today Norway played.
• 35:41
  Speaker 1: This is where Italy kind of has the advantage. Norway
• 35:43
  Speaker 1: beat Estonia one nothing, so you know, in that regard
• 35:47
  Speaker 1: it's a bit, you know, maybe a bit more even. Anyways, obviously,
• 35:50
  Speaker 1: what what what it's really going to come down to,
• 35:52
  Speaker 1: as we know, November sixteenth, Italy Norway at the San Ziero. Obviously,
• 35:57
  Speaker 1: if Norway drops points, it gives Italy a big advantage.
• 36:01
  Speaker 1: But if Norway doesn't drop any points and Italy wins
• 36:03
  Speaker 1: out between now in that game, it's gonna come down
• 36:09
  Speaker 1: to gold differential. Italy might have to win by three
• 36:12
  Speaker 1: or four goals just to just to finish first. But guys,
• 36:16
  Speaker 1: I don't know about you, but at one point in
• 36:19
  Speaker 1: this game, I was thinking, like shit, Italy's at risk
• 36:23
  Speaker 1: of not even making the playoffs right now for the
• 36:25
  Speaker 1: qualifying right, because if they tie this game, I think
• 36:29
  Speaker 1: it would have been what Italy had seven points Israel ten. Yes,
• 36:34
  Speaker 1: Israel would have had the game of the extra game.
• 36:36
  Speaker 1: But that that that's Italy was putting themselves. They were
• 36:39
  Speaker 1: playing with fire today, right, Yeah, they were putting themselves
• 36:42
  Speaker 1: in a dangerous spot. Okay, yes they got the three points.
• 36:45
  Speaker 1: Everything is good, but at this point I'm worried they
• 36:48
  Speaker 1: might not even make the playoffs. Yes, again, it'll helped today,
• 36:54
  Speaker 1: you know. Israel. Moving forward, they only have three games
• 36:56
  Speaker 1: against Norway, Italy and Moldova. So two are the three
• 37:00
  Speaker 1: tough games for Israel. Like I said, Italy does play
• 37:03
  Speaker 1: against Estonia in Estonia October eleventh and then October for fourteenth,
• 37:10
  Speaker 1: they host Israel than you toay and then the last
• 37:12
  Speaker 1: two games are November thirteenth they're in Moldova and then
• 37:16
  Speaker 1: November sixteenth they host Norway.
• 37:19
  Speaker 3: So guys, maybe four games, four games.
• 37:24
  Speaker 1: It's gonna go by fast. Like we said at the
• 37:25
  Speaker 1: top of the show, guys, it's uh, it's stressing, especially guys.
• 37:30
  Speaker 1: Forty eighteen World Cup. We thought it'd be a lot
• 37:32
  Speaker 1: easier for Italy to qualify. Come on, it's schools gold, right.
• 37:38
  Speaker 4: So like that's that's that's, that's what it is. Like,
• 37:41
  Speaker 4: that's what I'm saying, Like every game feels like an
• 37:43
  Speaker 4: elimination game, like you have to win every game now,
• 37:45
  Speaker 4: and that's and it shouldn't be like this, but it is.
• 37:47
  Speaker 4: That's the reality of the situation. Now. I'll be honest
• 37:50
  Speaker 4: with you, I think just judging from these first two games,
• 37:53
  Speaker 4: I actually have a new hope where they're willing to
• 37:55
  Speaker 4: destroy every team they play against. They're able to score
• 37:58
  Speaker 4: these many goals, and I do think that we actually
• 38:01
  Speaker 4: because of like our like what the trend is right now,
• 38:05
  Speaker 4: I feel like as if like we will win the
• 38:07
  Speaker 4: second game versus Norway and our differential will be higher
• 38:10
  Speaker 4: than theirs come that time. I have confidence in this
• 38:13
  Speaker 4: group now. But whereas before Gatuzzo's first two games, I
• 38:17
  Speaker 4: was like, Okay, maybe not, I feel like this game
• 38:19
  Speaker 4: was a bit of an anomaly. I feel like as
• 38:21
  Speaker 4: if this game was necessary for them to be like,
• 38:24
  Speaker 4: oh shit, okay, like it exposed issues for the team,
• 38:28
  Speaker 4: and these guys they don't seem like a group of idiots.
• 38:31
  Speaker 4: They're not like, they're not brain dead morons. I honestly
• 38:36
  Speaker 4: believe that these guys are like, Okay, well, we understand
• 38:38
  Speaker 4: how tactics work and what our issues were this game.
• 38:41
  Speaker 4: Let's see if you can fix it going forward. Like
• 38:43
  Speaker 4: I don't, I have faith in this in this team
• 38:46
  Speaker 4: to to you know, adjust to their mistakes. And I
• 38:51
  Speaker 4: think Gatuzo needed to see that. Okay, He's like, okay,
• 38:53
  Speaker 4: maybe having a transitional four to a four man back
• 38:56
  Speaker 4: to a three man back is not the way to
• 38:58
  Speaker 4: go with this team. Maybe I need to do something else.
• 39:00
  Speaker 4: Maybe I need Kiza to come back to put in
• 39:02
  Speaker 4: the right wing spot slot or like in this right
• 39:04
  Speaker 4: wing slot in the midfield, rather than put forcing battle
• 39:06
  Speaker 4: at the play in a position that he's not he's
• 39:08
  Speaker 4: not willing to work in. Because I feel like Kieza
• 39:11
  Speaker 4: under Gatuso will be a different player. I think it's
• 39:14
  Speaker 4: I think we might get the Kieza of old under Gatuzo.
• 39:16
  Speaker 4: I I I think that I like Gatuso is the manager.
• 39:20
  Speaker 4: And I've said it in previous episodes. People can go
• 39:22
  Speaker 4: back and and quote me on this, and I said
• 39:24
  Speaker 4: this before he hired him on the team. Katuso is
• 39:27
  Speaker 4: a transitional manager. He's not going to be a guy
• 39:29
  Speaker 4: who's got a long term plan. And and I'm not
• 39:32
  Speaker 4: saying this is an insulting type of way, but Gatuzo's
• 39:34
  Speaker 4: the guy you call in if you need to knock
• 39:37
  Speaker 4: heads together and get get people back to their senses.
• 39:41
  Speaker 4: You know, he's He's the coach that will make a
• 39:44
  Speaker 4: team that is like that, they're struggling at the bottom
• 39:47
  Speaker 4: of the basement of like whatever league you watch. We'll
• 39:50
  Speaker 4: get them to like mid table, have promising chances at
• 39:53
  Speaker 4: the top table, to just show them like, guys, you
• 39:56
  Speaker 4: can do this. And then you bring in a tactical
• 39:59
  Speaker 4: mass her mind to put them over that hump and
• 40:01
  Speaker 4: get them there. But Guatuso will be the guy to
• 40:04
  Speaker 4: get them there from their from the basement, from the slump. Now,
• 40:07
  Speaker 4: I I hope that Goattuso is a type of coach
• 40:09
  Speaker 4: that can do even more with them. And I feel
• 40:11
  Speaker 4: like as if like I'm not calling Gatuso an idiot.
• 40:13
  Speaker 4: Like I'm not saying he's not he's not smart enough
• 40:15
  Speaker 4: to be a tactician. But Gatuzo does best is the
• 40:20
  Speaker 4: way he was as a player. He talks, he talks,
• 40:23
  Speaker 4: he tells us straight, he's a straight shooter, he'll he'll
• 40:26
  Speaker 4: tell you to wake the fuck up if you have to,
• 40:29
  Speaker 4: and a guy that's always going to be in the
• 40:30
  Speaker 4: trenches for you. So the players, I think they see that,
• 40:33
  Speaker 4: they feel that that they know that Gotuzo's going to
• 40:35
  Speaker 4: be in the trenches with them. Immediately took to the
• 40:38
  Speaker 4: field with them, joined in on the little quarrel that
• 40:41
  Speaker 4: they're having with the Israeli players, like they're like, he's
• 40:43
  Speaker 4: he's he's there with them, And I feel like because
• 40:46
  Speaker 4: of that, the players are going to be willing to
• 40:48
  Speaker 4: fight for Janado, And I think that like this is
• 40:53
  Speaker 4: going to be like their wake up call and then
• 40:55
  Speaker 4: going forward, like you know what, Bucket, let's guys, we
• 40:57
  Speaker 4: can do this. Let's score these goals, let's bang out
• 40:59
  Speaker 4: these games, and then come second play through with Norway,
• 41:02
  Speaker 4: I feel like the result will be different and I
• 41:04
  Speaker 4: have more confidence than this team to actually have a
• 41:06
  Speaker 4: like this differential does suck right now, because of today's game.
• 41:09
  Speaker 4: But I don't think it's I feel like this is
• 41:11
  Speaker 4: a one off. I feel like this sloppy thing is
• 41:13
  Speaker 4: a one off. I feel like they're gonna, you know,
• 41:15
  Speaker 4: wake up a bit next next time come around. I
• 41:16
  Speaker 4: feel like as if they don't want to embarrass themselves again.
• 41:19
  Speaker 4: And I think the players are not gonna embarrass themselves again.
• 41:24
  Speaker 2: Yeah, one thing I want to add then again, I
• 41:26
  Speaker 2: think think you said earlier, and I agree one with everything
• 41:31
  Speaker 2: you said.
• 41:31
  Speaker 3: And it's it's it's the truth.
• 41:34
  Speaker 4: You know, Gatuzzo's gonna, he's gonna, he's gonna.
• 41:37
  Speaker 3: Fight with you, for you, against you whatever.
• 41:41
  Speaker 2: Like he's you know what they say, DINOI right, he's
• 41:44
  Speaker 2: one of us, Right, he's.
• 41:45
  Speaker 4: One of the guys.
• 41:46
  Speaker 3: He's he's a he's a true he's he's just.
• 41:49
  Speaker 4: Embodies so much, you know. Uh.
• 41:53
  Speaker 2: And And I think, like you said, Jenny, I think
• 41:55
  Speaker 2: the players do see that. It's still I think a
• 41:59
  Speaker 2: bit of a mentality thing. That is the only thing
• 42:02
  Speaker 2: that's kind of that bothers me a bit, is because
• 42:05
  Speaker 2: a game like today, and maybe it is the one
• 42:07
  Speaker 2: off and the only way we'll know it's a one
• 42:09
  Speaker 2: offer that will see as the one off is next
• 42:11
  Speaker 2: win international window right in October and the other one
• 42:15
  Speaker 2: in November. Was this really a one offer? What is
• 42:18
  Speaker 2: this something that there's a deeper issue with.
• 42:22
  Speaker 5: I hope that these players open their ears, listen and
• 42:28
  Speaker 5: see what Gatuoso was trying to bring and wake up
• 42:31
  Speaker 5: because I don't want them to go down.
• 42:33
  Speaker 2: This path of this mental lapse and stuff like that,
• 42:37
  Speaker 2: because honestly, like again today against a better opposition, I'm
• 42:42
  Speaker 2: sorry and as much as you know, guys, I love
• 42:44
  Speaker 2: when the national team is on, how much we love it,
• 42:48
  Speaker 2: but I personally think against a better team today with
• 42:51
  Speaker 2: the performance that we had, that's instead of a three points,
• 42:54
  Speaker 2: that's zero.
• 42:55
  Speaker 3: It's a loss. I'm going to start it's it's a loss.
• 42:58
  Speaker 2: And I love the two I love what he's brought,
• 43:01
  Speaker 2: and I've said it it's not like already like a
• 43:02
  Speaker 2: broken record, but that's a lot. It would be a loss.
• 43:06
  Speaker 2: And that's what these players have to understand. If they
• 43:09
  Speaker 2: haven't already fucking understood from these past two Miss World Cups, Like,
• 43:14
  Speaker 2: if that's not already an embarrassing fact.
• 43:16
  Speaker 4: For these players, I don't know what.
• 43:18
  Speaker 2: I don't know what is, So you know, I think,
• 43:22
  Speaker 2: what is it, Geovanni Leoni, he's eighteen years old, he's
• 43:25
  Speaker 2: the youngest player on the team.
• 43:27
  Speaker 4: Like, has he has he seen?
• 43:29
  Speaker 2: Has he seen Italy in a in a World Cup,
• 43:33
  Speaker 2: you know, knockout match?
• 43:34
  Speaker 1: That No, I don't think so. I think the commentator
• 43:38
  Speaker 1: that he's saying something heard that the first game, he
• 43:40
  Speaker 1: actually brought that up. Uh shit, I have to I
• 43:42
  Speaker 1: have to look this up, look it up, because I
• 43:44
  Speaker 1: don't think you've ever seen Italy in a World Cup
• 43:46
  Speaker 1: knockout game. No, he hasn't. Born December twenty first, two
• 43:49
  Speaker 1: thousand and six, he was he was seven years old,
• 43:52
  Speaker 1: he has he didn't even turn eight the last time
• 43:54
  Speaker 1: Italy played in a World Cup. And with with these
• 43:56
  Speaker 1: jerseys right here exactly, that's crazy. That's a whole generation
• 44:00
  Speaker 1: of kids that, yes, they've seen Italy win neuros, but
• 44:03
  Speaker 1: they haven't seen them or don't remember them in a
• 44:05
  Speaker 1: World Cup exactly right.
• 44:07
  Speaker 2: So that's that's another thing that should be put into
• 44:11
  Speaker 2: their into their heads and you know, to go forward,
• 44:14
  Speaker 2: you know, with with more positivity and and again I
• 44:17
  Speaker 2: I think Gatuoso is the guy to do it. You know,
• 44:20
  Speaker 2: it seems like everybody is everybody seems to.
• 44:24
  Speaker 3: Be bought in.
• 44:27
  Speaker 2: They just cannot have these types of lapses like today,
• 44:31
  Speaker 2: because it's it's going to be only worse, especially if
• 44:35
  Speaker 2: this is you know, we get into the tournament, let's say,
• 44:38
  Speaker 2: and you know this is a a knockout game. It's
• 44:40
  Speaker 2: a big game, and that's how you go out, Like
• 44:42
  Speaker 2: that's not acceptable, Like for Italy, it's not acceptable.
• 44:45
  Speaker 3: I'm sorry, like go out and fight, okay, but we
• 44:50
  Speaker 3: cannot two own goals.
• 44:52
  Speaker 2: Who's knocking the ball and it goes right it like
• 44:54
  Speaker 2: it's like who's not marking? We're playing total compo or
• 44:58
  Speaker 2: fucking I don't know what we're playing in the back line.
• 45:02
  Speaker 4: It's crazy.
• 45:03
  Speaker 2: So you know, even though the room, I like, he
• 45:06
  Speaker 2: looked okay today, but it's still him to a bit off.
• 45:08
  Speaker 2: He worked off and I don't know, these guys, it's
• 45:10
  Speaker 2: so weird to me. They go from looking all like amazing,
• 45:14
  Speaker 2: like talk you know, number one whatever, and then they
• 45:17
  Speaker 2: go come today and it's like a different I don't know,
• 45:20
  Speaker 2: different air. I don't know if it's you know a
• 45:23
  Speaker 2: little bit of the stories outside of this this this game.
• 45:26
  Speaker 3: You know, they were playing hungry.
• 45:28
  Speaker 2: You know, the the Israel before the I'm not getting
• 45:31
  Speaker 2: into politics, but I don't know if it's because of that,
• 45:33
  Speaker 2: but it just lock in, fight, get the three points,
• 45:39
  Speaker 2: go home, and and and and we need to do
• 45:41
  Speaker 2: that four more times. So I'm confident. Don't get me wrong,
• 45:45
  Speaker 2: I am confident. But the defense is what and it's
• 45:51
  Speaker 2: I don't even know how I'm saying this, but it's
• 45:52
  Speaker 2: the defense that that that is an.
• 45:56
  Speaker 4: Issue for me that currently.
• 45:59
  Speaker 2: Shouldn't be with the players that we have, and I
• 46:01
  Speaker 2: honestly think even with the players that we do have,
• 46:03
  Speaker 2: yes bad games, they should be able to kind of.
• 46:07
  Speaker 4: Pocket some of these nations that we're going.
• 46:09
  Speaker 2: Okay, you want to say you have a struggle with
• 46:11
  Speaker 2: early in Holland, Okay, fine, I'll give it to you.
• 46:14
  Speaker 3: You know what, he's one of the best players, best
• 46:17
  Speaker 3: strikers in the world.
• 46:17
  Speaker 2: Okay, he has all the talent, he scores goals at will,
• 46:20
  Speaker 2: he's huge, his frame, his profile, I get it. But
• 46:24
  Speaker 2: against who scored the Parretts Joshua Peretz, who scored the
• 46:28
  Speaker 2: Slobo SloMo was on the Solomon Like, if we have
• 46:33
  Speaker 2: a problem with Slom, what the fuck is going.
• 46:35
  Speaker 3: To happen when we come against you know.
• 46:37
  Speaker 4: Every time I hear Schlovo, I think a wedding crashers.
• 46:40
  Speaker 2: But that's right, it's no, it's no. I don't want
• 46:45
  Speaker 2: to sound like I'm coming from a bad place, but
• 46:47
  Speaker 2: it's it's just it's crazy, like I'll give it to you. Know,
• 46:51
  Speaker 2: you have a bad game against early in Holland. But
• 46:53
  Speaker 2: if you have a game against this Parretz guy that again,
• 46:56
  Speaker 2: no disrespect to him. He plays, I have no idea
• 46:59
  Speaker 2: where and he's you shouldn't be toying with the Italian
• 47:02
  Speaker 2: defense or you know, like I said Solomon, I saw
• 47:05
  Speaker 2: that Baribo guy. I don't know who's causing problems after
• 47:08
  Speaker 2: the match.
• 47:09
  Speaker 4: Uh.
• 47:11
  Speaker 3: That's where I have an issue.
• 47:13
  Speaker 2: And our players personally, I think, are like with the
• 47:17
  Speaker 2: players we have barring up bad like even with okay,
• 47:20
  Speaker 2: I'll give you have a bad game, okay, but still
• 47:22
  Speaker 2: your bad game should still be able to mitigate what
• 47:26
  Speaker 2: these types of nations, smaller nations have to offer against you.
• 47:30
  Speaker 4: In my personal opinion, we need to have team scared
• 47:33
  Speaker 4: of us again. That's what it is exactly, have teams
• 47:36
  Speaker 4: scared of us again, and thank you. You need to like
• 47:39
  Speaker 4: and that's why I'm saying with a manager like Catuso,
• 47:42
  Speaker 4: he's going to make them like realize this, like guys
• 47:44
  Speaker 4: like it's you need to get out of it. And
• 47:46
  Speaker 4: I think that's what attributes to like why are we
• 47:48
  Speaker 4: having these type of games, is because when they put
• 47:50
  Speaker 4: on the national team jersey like it's it's it's the
• 47:53
  Speaker 4: trauma of like previous failures that come back, you know,
• 47:56
  Speaker 4: like yes they exercise some demons by winning the euro Cup,
• 47:59
  Speaker 4: but yes, it's it doesn't seem like it's gone away.
• 48:01
  Speaker 4: And by the way, I think having legacy players like
• 48:04
  Speaker 4: Bonuccin Buffon perfect idea mentality. I've been saying this many times,
• 48:08
  Speaker 4: like players like that all see there and stuff. You
• 48:10
  Speaker 4: have legacy players to be like, I don't care if
• 48:12
  Speaker 4: they're an assistant coach, role director, role mentor. You have
• 48:16
  Speaker 4: these guys there to wake up this dude generation and
• 48:18
  Speaker 4: say like, you guys can do this. Make them scared
• 48:22
  Speaker 4: of you, Like that's that's what it is. Like if
• 48:25
  Speaker 4: you have players willing to fight with our players at
• 48:26
  Speaker 4: the end of the game, they're not terrified. They don't
• 48:28
  Speaker 4: have their tails between the legs, you know, like today,
• 48:30
  Speaker 4: even though even though we won the game, I'm pretty
• 48:32
  Speaker 4: sure Israel's walking away. We're like, you know what, we
• 48:34
  Speaker 4: could probably win next game. I'm pretty sure they're probably
• 48:36
  Speaker 4: thinking that. I like, like you should, like you should
• 48:40
  Speaker 4: have that circled on the board, Like these guys don't
• 48:42
  Speaker 4: respect us. Let's show them who we are as a
• 48:45
  Speaker 4: footballing nation, right, so we need to Like that's where
• 48:48
  Speaker 4: I think like having people like Bonucci Catuzoon in some
• 48:53
  Speaker 4: capacity in the team, I think that's gonna come back
• 48:57
  Speaker 4: over time. I don't know how, I don't know when.
• 49:00
  Speaker 4: I wish I could say that, but I have faith
• 49:02
  Speaker 4: in those men to instill it in the younger generation
• 49:06
  Speaker 4: to be like like no, like you know.
• 49:09
  Speaker 2: And they they should listen because you know, okay didn't
• 49:12
  Speaker 2: win the World Cup, but you know these.
• 49:14
  Speaker 3: Guys are winners. Yeah, these guys know what it takes.
• 49:17
  Speaker 2: And these players, if they're smart, if they have a
• 49:20
  Speaker 2: half a Travella upstairs, they should listen to guys like
• 49:23
  Speaker 2: this because you know, they've been there, they've done that,
• 49:27
  Speaker 2: they've won whatever there is to win everything. Pretty much
• 49:31
  Speaker 2: all these players they've won the guys you're naming, so
• 49:35
  Speaker 2: when they speak, they speak from not only experience, but
• 49:38
  Speaker 2: they they have just playing the game for a long time,
• 49:41
  Speaker 2: but the experience of winning and knowing what it tastes that,
• 49:45
  Speaker 2: what victory tastes like, what winning tastes like, lifting a
• 49:48
  Speaker 2: trophy of that, of that magnitude, you know, being in
• 49:51
  Speaker 2: the World Cup.
• 49:52
  Speaker 3: Let's say for Buffoon and Gatuzzo.
• 49:54
  Speaker 2: These players they see that, They're like, well, what he's
• 49:58
  Speaker 2: saying is is is the truth?
• 50:00
  Speaker 3: It's fox right, Like, it's not just because I want
• 50:03
  Speaker 3: to yell.
• 50:03
  Speaker 2: And scream and uh and get picked up by the
• 50:07
  Speaker 2: the broudio, the audio on the broadcast broadcast every every
• 50:10
  Speaker 2: every game. That's all you hear gatoos on the on
• 50:12
  Speaker 2: the sideline yelling. Right, it's not only for the show.
• 50:15
  Speaker 2: There's something behind that, right, So I agree, I agree,
• 50:19
  Speaker 2: And you know what, uh, you know, Gatuzo's is at
• 50:23
  Speaker 2: the helm, so obviously then they need to listen to
• 50:25
  Speaker 2: him first.
• 50:26
  Speaker 3: I definitely agree.
• 50:28
  Speaker 2: Having a guy like before in the building, a guy
• 50:31
  Speaker 2: you know, Bonucci, I didn't know he he wanted to
• 50:34
  Speaker 2: go this route that post career, and you know, if
• 50:37
  Speaker 2: it works for him, it's good.
• 50:38
  Speaker 4: You know, it's it's it's it's positive.
• 50:41
  Speaker 2: We saw what happened when you know guys like even Mancini, right,
• 50:45
  Speaker 2: you know, he was a past player, you know, they
• 50:48
  Speaker 2: they he did a lot in in the walley really, right,
• 50:52
  Speaker 2: you know, even when we brought into Rossi right in
• 50:54
  Speaker 2: that period too. So it's not always gonna translate to
• 51:00
  Speaker 2: ranking old players or former players into whatever situation, and
• 51:04
  Speaker 2: it's automatically automatically going to be you know, a complete
• 51:07
  Speaker 2: one to eighty. But I think there's something too, There's
• 51:10
  Speaker 2: something there that you know, players listen to these types
• 51:15
  Speaker 2: of figures and you know good things will happen.
• 51:17
  Speaker 4: I think.
• 51:19
  Speaker 1: Manucci, it's crazy like he was still part of the
• 51:21
  Speaker 1: team two years ago. His last game really was June fifteenth,
• 51:24
  Speaker 1: twenty twenty three, So he's he's he's part of the team.
• 51:28
  Speaker 1: I you know, I seeing him today was it's funny.
• 51:30
  Speaker 1: It is funny because he's obviously a player I watched
• 51:34
  Speaker 1: for a long time, whether it's with Italy or or
• 51:39
  Speaker 1: Juve obviously, so it is funny to see him in
• 51:41
  Speaker 1: that coaching role a bit more, I guess. I mean,
• 51:44
  Speaker 1: he was always a level headed player, but a bit
• 51:46
  Speaker 1: more calm, right, you have to be a bit more
• 51:47
  Speaker 1: calm in the coaching role than when you play. But
• 51:50
  Speaker 1: like you said, this guy, this is the guy who
• 51:51
  Speaker 1: won the Euros four years ago, and then he's a coach.
• 51:55
  Speaker 3: Guys, I don't know what's his role though, what's his role?
• 51:57
  Speaker 3: I didn't catch with Leuci.
• 51:59
  Speaker 4: I don't know.
• 52:00
  Speaker 3: He's just assistants on the bench.
• 52:03
  Speaker 1: He get a near piece and so yeah, I saw
• 52:05
  Speaker 1: that and really do something.
• 52:07
  Speaker 2: There was that clip where thetuso's going and he's pointing
• 52:10
  Speaker 2: and he's going like this on the sideline touch line
• 52:12
  Speaker 2: and then There'sci behind him doing like the same, the
• 52:15
  Speaker 2: same emotions, you know what.
• 52:16
  Speaker 4: They made me laugh like what like what that? Like?
• 52:18
  Speaker 4: The US was like just like it could be just
• 52:21
  Speaker 4: like like I honestly technical advisor, but somebody who assists
• 52:25
  Speaker 4: with the training.
• 52:25
  Speaker 3: But he went to I.
• 52:26
  Speaker 2: Saw him going for his uh. He wants to get
• 52:29
  Speaker 2: into the coaching. I think I had seen him in
• 52:32
  Speaker 2: his UH when they were doing a COVID channel. They
• 52:34
  Speaker 2: were doing a big thing for for you know, new
• 52:37
  Speaker 2: coaches or whatever.
• 52:38
  Speaker 4: Well, there was a there was a statement released recently
• 52:40
  Speaker 4: that he had his like he's he's like like he
• 52:42
  Speaker 4: said something on the lines that I could have win
• 52:43
  Speaker 4: as a player, but I would like to coach you
• 52:45
  Speaker 4: to a Champions League title, like like if he has
• 52:47
  Speaker 4: ambitions for that, you know, good for him, Like I
• 52:50
  Speaker 4: hope it doesn't happen because it's you. I'm just kidding. Yeah,
• 52:53
  Speaker 4: but can't you know he couldn't reality reality like like
• 52:58
  Speaker 4: like jokes aside reality if it like he had, like
• 53:02
  Speaker 4: he could do it, Like I I feel like as
• 53:05
  Speaker 4: if he's still very close to the game, that he's
• 53:07
  Speaker 4: still able to understand that he's not out of touch
• 53:09
  Speaker 4: with it. And that's why I'm saying players like him
• 53:12
  Speaker 4: and Befon right now, what they're doing is phenomenal, Like
• 53:14
  Speaker 4: I don't give a shit if their legacy players are like,
• 53:17
  Speaker 4: like you bring guys like these are not legacy players,
• 53:19
  Speaker 4: like guys that are in your seventies or eighties that
• 53:21
  Speaker 4: want it way back when, you know, like these are
• 53:23
  Speaker 4: legacy players that want it four years ago. They want
• 53:26
  Speaker 4: something major four years ago. So you bring these guys
• 53:29
  Speaker 4: in to tell the players like, hey, like this is
• 53:32
  Speaker 4: what we had to do, like like, do do as
• 53:35
  Speaker 4: we say, and you know you could find more or
• 53:38
  Speaker 4: less the same success because what makes what makes us
• 53:42
  Speaker 4: successful has never been individual talent. It's always been it's
• 53:46
  Speaker 4: has always been united effort. It's always been smart, masterclass tactics.
• 53:51
  Speaker 4: You know, it's always been a team. It's always been
• 53:54
  Speaker 4: the same effort. It was never like we don't we've
• 53:56
  Speaker 4: never had like a superstar, like we've had superstars, like
• 54:00
  Speaker 4: don't get me wrong. I mean more like it's one
• 54:02
  Speaker 4: guy and it's one superstar and ten other guys. You know,
• 54:05
  Speaker 4: it's like we never had that, and it's it's.
• 54:07
  Speaker 3: Well even with even with the era.
• 54:09
  Speaker 2: Like again, for anybody that's only listening to the audio
• 54:12
  Speaker 2: and doesn't have a visual on this, but you know
• 54:14
  Speaker 2: falls falls on social so you can see the clips
• 54:16
  Speaker 2: and all that and and YouTube and subscribe there. But
• 54:19
  Speaker 2: you know Johnny's background, right, those are that group of players, right,
• 54:23
  Speaker 2: you know, the Maldini's, the Nesta's, the kind of tales
• 54:26
  Speaker 2: that the pianos that are on in his backdrop here.
• 54:29
  Speaker 2: You know, we had all those guys, but they came
• 54:32
  Speaker 2: together as a team and produced. Yes, they were great
• 54:35
  Speaker 2: on their own, don't get me wrong. For the respective
• 54:37
  Speaker 2: clubs or even at the national level. They you know,
• 54:40
  Speaker 2: they were obviously good individual players, but as a team,
• 54:44
  Speaker 2: like just to echo what you're saying, Johnny and I
• 54:46
  Speaker 2: agree hundred percent. And again Gatuso said it again because
• 54:49
  Speaker 2: he was in that environment, right, like, you know, did
• 54:52
  Speaker 2: they have like we love them?
• 54:55
  Speaker 3: Like those are our idols?
• 54:56
  Speaker 2: Those are you know, we we have such fun memories
• 54:57
  Speaker 2: of O six and stuff like that. Right we're across
• 55:01
  Speaker 2: the board where all those like all the greatest players
• 55:03
  Speaker 2: in the world.
• 55:04
  Speaker 3: Maybe not right to to certain people, but what happened.
• 55:08
  Speaker 2: They came out, They came as a group under the
• 55:11
  Speaker 2: guidance of Marcellillippian and you know they won the World Cup.
• 55:14
  Speaker 3: Same thing in twenty twenty one. Right, it was the team.
• 55:17
  Speaker 2: It was the group right singing Maquala did right, all
• 55:21
  Speaker 2: those Nabodana songs right there that they were singing every
• 55:23
  Speaker 2: after every game. It wasn't the individual. Yes, there was
• 55:26
  Speaker 2: individual moments, but it all captured with the group. And
• 55:31
  Speaker 2: again another thing again, I don't know how much homework
• 55:34
  Speaker 2: I did.
• 55:34
  Speaker 3: I haven't done this much homeworking. I don't know how
• 55:36
  Speaker 3: much and how long.
• 55:37
  Speaker 2: But you know, again another thing that Cautuzo said, and
• 55:39
  Speaker 2: again I agree.
• 55:40
  Speaker 3: I wanted to bring it up.
• 55:41
  Speaker 2: Is you know, you you can only go so far
• 55:44
  Speaker 2: with with with individual talent. With these players. You know,
• 55:47
  Speaker 2: it's it's it's bringing the mentality all together as a cohesion.
• 55:54
  Speaker 3: As one, you know, bringing that that team effort.
• 55:57
  Speaker 2: You need to build a team rather than just having individuals,
• 56:00
  Speaker 2: because you can have all the individual talents you want,
• 56:02
  Speaker 2: but to bring it as a team, it's a different
• 56:05
  Speaker 2: dynamic and that's where you know you can can succeed.
• 56:07
  Speaker 3: So I find you know, it's there, Don't get me wrong,
• 56:14
  Speaker 3: It is there. Even though with the crazy game today.
• 56:17
  Speaker 2: And a lot of people listening to this or watching
• 56:19
  Speaker 2: this or what have you, they'll probably say, you know what,
• 56:22
  Speaker 2: the guys, you guys are being not as maybe overcritical, but.
• 56:26
  Speaker 4: We are guys like, don't get us wrong.
• 56:28
  Speaker 2: It's there's problems to be solved, don't get us wrong.
• 56:31
  Speaker 2: But I think there is some sort of positivity, you know,
• 56:38
  Speaker 2: going in the right direction. There has to be, because
• 56:42
  Speaker 2: when was we haven't seen five goals? And when was
• 56:45
  Speaker 2: the last time you said, Nick twenty nineteen twenty eighteen,
• 56:48
  Speaker 2: what was it nineteen twenty nineteen against Armenia and fucking
• 56:54
  Speaker 2: Liechtenstein or licktin too or whatever.
• 56:56
  Speaker 3: I don't even know how to pronounce it right. So it's.
• 57:01
  Speaker 2: We don't see five goals very often, guys like, we
• 57:04
  Speaker 2: have to be somewhat positive. I think, going back even
• 57:10
  Speaker 2: to the first game, I just I don't know if
• 57:13
  Speaker 2: we didn't really talk about it. I don't know if
• 57:15
  Speaker 2: you guys want to maybe bring it up a bit,
• 57:16
  Speaker 2: but it seems to be I think another issue. And
• 57:21
  Speaker 2: I don't know if you guys agree, but I don't
• 57:24
  Speaker 2: know why we get off to a sole start. The
• 57:27
  Speaker 2: first halves have been in both these games have been
• 57:30
  Speaker 2: the first one. Forget it. It was the first game
• 57:32
  Speaker 2: against Estonia.
• 57:33
  Speaker 3: I forget it. It was it was a wash. It was
• 57:35
  Speaker 3: like we had chiances.
• 57:36
  Speaker 2: Don't get us wrong, don't get me wrong, like we
• 57:38
  Speaker 2: were pressing, we had it.
• 57:39
  Speaker 4: We had like I was wow. I was like shocked.
• 57:41
  Speaker 4: I was like, wow, they're actually.
• 57:42
  Speaker 3: Trying to go forward, they're trying to attack whatever.
• 57:44
  Speaker 2: But couldn't finish. And I thought that was going to
• 57:46
  Speaker 2: be our downfall. Couldn't finish. Thankfully, I was wrong, and
• 57:49
  Speaker 2: they were able to score five in each match. But
• 57:52
  Speaker 2: what do you guys maybe pinpoint to the sole start.
• 57:55
  Speaker 2: Is it the early nerves and their gatuzzo or is
• 57:57
  Speaker 2: it what is mentality?
• 57:59
  Speaker 1: I think I think mentality maybe lack of I want
• 58:02
  Speaker 1: to say lack of preparation. I don't know what goes
• 58:04
  Speaker 1: on at COVID Channel. I think it doesn't help that
• 58:07
  Speaker 1: the lineup is also such a mishmash of different players
• 58:13
  Speaker 1: from different clubs, and at the same time they're here
• 58:16
  Speaker 1: to play two games. This is not a tournament, right
• 58:19
  Speaker 1: and even when there are tournaments, we know Italy is
• 58:21
  Speaker 1: slow at starting and tournaments, but they get better as
• 58:24
  Speaker 1: the tournament goes on, right, So it is tough for
• 58:28
  Speaker 1: these players to come and they play one coach, one system,
• 58:32
  Speaker 1: one team, and then you know, on Sunday or Monday
• 58:36
  Speaker 1: whatever they leave they go to Covert Channel. Yes they
• 58:38
  Speaker 1: spend time training each other. Yes, it's maybe ten days
• 58:41
  Speaker 1: or together. The professionals they know what they're doing, but
• 58:45
  Speaker 1: even their opponent they don't know what to expect. Sometimes, yes,
• 58:51
  Speaker 1: you don't want them to play down to their opponent,
• 58:54
  Speaker 1: opponent like Estonia, but they're almost going to the game.
• 58:57
  Speaker 1: I'm sure they're studying video, I'm sure they're looking at
• 59:00
  Speaker 1: their past matches. But even from a player, their opponents
• 59:04
  Speaker 1: they don't know them. It's not like playing a city
• 59:06
  Speaker 1: at match where you've played these guys god knows how
• 59:08
  Speaker 1: many times before, whether it's that specific club or let's
• 59:13
  Speaker 1: say there, let's say there's a winger going up against
• 59:15
  Speaker 1: the fullback, whether you've played them on that team or
• 59:18
  Speaker 1: another team. You know his tendencies, you know his his everything. Right,
• 59:23
  Speaker 1: they don't know much about these Estonian players. I don't
• 59:25
  Speaker 1: know anything about these Estonian players. Do you know anything
• 59:27
  Speaker 1: about these Nstonian players? I doubt it?
• 59:30
  Speaker 3: No, No, I don't know.
• 59:31
  Speaker 1: Do you know where Estonia is?
• 59:33
  Speaker 3: That's in Europe?
• 59:34
  Speaker 1: No? No, I hope so I believe it's near Finland,
• 59:40
  Speaker 1: God bless them. Yeah, so yeah, there you go. It'll
• 59:44
  Speaker 1: be interesting to see when Italy has to travel there
• 59:47
  Speaker 1: in October. It's probably gonna be cold, but yeah.
• 59:51
  Speaker 4: There we go.
• 59:51
  Speaker 3: Where we're gonna say, you know what I mean, I
• 59:53
  Speaker 3: Randy Dan and Estonia, like, what's gonna happen?
• 59:55
  Speaker 4: Right? So I don't know. I think that's that's besides.
• 59:59
  Speaker 2: Now this again maybe one off maybe not one off
• 1:00:03
  Speaker 2: for the for the defense, you know, kind of leaking
• 1:00:06
  Speaker 2: goals of it. The early game mentality, I think is
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 2: a is another thing too, to to say, sorry.
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 4: My dog is barking all here. Yeah, dog does too
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 4: it's it's incredible.
• 1:00:21
  Speaker 1: You guys have dogs. I mean, you guys get paid.
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 4: Yeah, you guys get paid. It reminds me of I'm
• 1:00:28
  Speaker 4: gonna show how much of a nerd I am where
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 4: it's like, uh it's was a blizz Con and people
• 1:00:32
  Speaker 4: were talking about how Blizzard announced like a Diabolo game
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 4: that was gonna be mobile, a game that's been always
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 4: like on the computer. They're like, oh, We're gonna release
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 4: a new Diablo game on on mobile, and people were complaining,
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 4: like the fuck, like like like it's it seemed like
• 1:00:46
  Speaker 4: a like a like a money like it's called a
• 1:00:49
  Speaker 4: gatcha game where you have to invest money just to
• 1:00:51
  Speaker 4: be good or whatever those type of things. And one
• 1:00:54
  Speaker 4: of the creators of the game is like, do you
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 4: guys not have phones? It's like imagine like vocalizing like
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 4: we don't like this. You guys don't have foods. That's
• 1:01:04
  Speaker 4: not the point here, it's not what the game is anyways.
• 1:01:07
  Speaker 1: Whatever us complaining about Italy not making World Cups. You
• 1:01:11
  Speaker 1: guys don't have plans in the summer. You guys don't
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 1: have anything better to do.
• 1:01:16
  Speaker 6: Oh my god, on a World Cup here, like like
• 1:01:20
  Speaker 6: like World Cup summers are some of the most magical
• 1:01:24
  Speaker 6: things and I miss those and I'm tired.
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 4: I'll say it. I don't like the events where you
• 1:01:29
  Speaker 4: have to have the World Cup during the winter. It
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 4: is not it's not the same. It is not the same.
• 1:01:35
  Speaker 4: But anyways, whatever, that's a different discussion for a different day.
• 1:01:37
  Speaker 4: All I'm saying.
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 1: Hopefully will enjoy this summer watching Italy and Canada in
• 1:01:41
  Speaker 1: the World Cup Final July nineteenth, twenty twenty six.
• 1:01:45
  Speaker 4: As holy shit, oh.
• 1:01:47
  Speaker 1: My god, I don't know which team singleonard will Chier four. Honestly,
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 1: if that ever happens, at this point, I'm at the
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 1: point people always people always ask us, right at this point,
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 1: I'll cheer for whoever. Just give me you ever, I'll
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 1: be honest.
• 1:02:03
  Speaker 4: If it's in Italy Canada final, I'm going to Italy first.
• 1:02:05
  Speaker 4: It's just it's always been that way for me. It's
• 1:02:08
  Speaker 4: it's just I I know, like, this is the country
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 4: I was born in and raised in. But like, like
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  Speaker 4: you guys have gone through the same experiences too, we're
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  Speaker 4: not far off from our roots. We're one or two
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  Speaker 4: generations away. So like for me, it's like I've never
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  Speaker 4: really felt Canadian like I'm Canadian, but I never you know,
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  Speaker 4: I'm Jenny Beatino type of me right now. It's like
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  Speaker 4: today I feel today, not never never never never.
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  Speaker 2: No, no no.
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  Speaker 4: But we didn't grow up with that, Like we don't
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  Speaker 4: have that.
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  Speaker 3: I always I don't. I couldn't. I could speak for
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  Speaker 3: us to. We didn't really grow up with that.
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  Speaker 4: That's why I got a Canadian a type of you
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  Speaker 4: know what I mean.
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  Speaker 2: That's why I can't like I feel you, I feel that,
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  Speaker 2: but you know and yeah, no, I agree. It's that's
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  Speaker 2: why I can give me ah. It is battery in
• 1:03:02
  Speaker 2: the World Club, like I'm going. I want Canada to
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  Speaker 2: do well, don't get me wrong. And it's funny because
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  Speaker 2: over here we're Italian, but we've over there we're a Canadian, right,
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  Speaker 2: or we're a Medigan right, So yeah, we can never win,
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  Speaker 2: right by GANI by here where or yeah, exactly here
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  Speaker 2: we are Italian over there in Italy we're Canadian.
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  Speaker 4: I always make sure to emphasize, yeah, but we can
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  Speaker 4: never we can never win.
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  Speaker 2: But you know, hopefully hopefully Italy wins, hopefully knad Of wins,
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  Speaker 2: like but I agree in a final, it's unfortunate, but
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  Speaker 2: even when you introduce yourselves like people, it's like what
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  Speaker 2: are you?
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  Speaker 3: I mean to I don't go around.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, Canadian. So I've had this argument with Jordan, right Marquez,
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  Speaker 4: like I've had this Chris, Yeah, one of my I
• 1:03:46
  Speaker 4: I love him like a brother. So what's he gonna say?
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  Speaker 4: Is that Canadian?
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  Speaker 3: Portuguese Italiana.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah, that's what I'm saying. Like you'll say like you'll say, like, no,
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  Speaker 4: I'm Canadian. My mother's side is Italian, my father's side Portuguese.
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  Speaker 4: But but it's because he makes fun of me that
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  Speaker 4: every time, like oh, what are you? And I'm like
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  Speaker 4: i tell people I'm Italian. Because when people ask you,
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  Speaker 4: like if you're in Canada or even in USA, if
• 1:04:08
  Speaker 4: somebody has Canadian, like, they're not asking if they ask
• 1:04:11
  Speaker 4: you what are you. They're not asking you from like
• 1:04:13
  Speaker 4: where you're born. They ask you. They're asking you ethnically
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  Speaker 4: what are you? And I will always say I'm Italian
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  Speaker 4: because that's because like like a Canadian asking me another
• 1:04:21
  Speaker 4: thing like like my students will ask me, sir, what
• 1:04:23
  Speaker 4: are you, Like I'm I'm not going to tell them
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  Speaker 4: I'm Canadian. I'm telling them, oh, I'm Italian. Because that's
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 4: what that's what That's what they're looking for because they're interested,
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 4: like like they know I'm from Canada because I like
• 1:04:33
  Speaker 4: I still speak English and French, but they want to
• 1:04:34
  Speaker 4: know where have liked Yeah, like nobody's ever going And
• 1:04:38
  Speaker 4: that's what I love about this. It's like like that's
• 1:04:40
  Speaker 4: that's why we ad that's that that's the benefit of
• 1:04:42
  Speaker 4: being in Canada. It's like the first thing when people
• 1:04:44
  Speaker 4: ask you that question, like they don't mean because they
• 1:04:47
  Speaker 4: want to know, like, oh, were you born in Canada
• 1:04:49
  Speaker 4: like us? Because Canada is not about being Canadian first.
• 1:04:51
  Speaker 4: It's about, you know, celebrating whatever heritage you are, so
• 1:04:54
  Speaker 4: they ask where.
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  Speaker 3: It depends where you are in Canada.
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  Speaker 4: If you're an Alberta, forget about it.
• 1:04:59
  Speaker 3: I'm you're probab to be Canadian.
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  Speaker 4: Yeah I'm proud to be Canadian too, but I'm sure
• 1:05:04
  Speaker 4: but I have that hyphen I have it. Yeah Italian
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  Speaker 4: Canadian anyways. But anyways, long story.
• 1:05:09
  Speaker 2: Show the where the culture guys now now yeah Cochina
• 1:05:12
  Speaker 2: guys at guys to culture guys right, yeah, where everything
• 1:05:17
  Speaker 2: in between?
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  Speaker 4: One now we need to go to Kuchino Guys one
• 1:05:20
  Speaker 4: day when we hit our fifties are gonna be talking
• 1:05:23
  Speaker 4: about we're gonna be.
• 1:05:25
  Speaker 3: Doing the podcast on the machines.
• 1:05:26
  Speaker 4: But yeah, but but.
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  Speaker 2: No, I think just going just going back, you knowwards
• 1:05:35
  Speaker 2: October eleventh, October fourteenth, cent.
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  Speaker 1: Yep, yeah, yeah, forte eleven fourteenth.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, eleven fourteenth. These are it's gonna happen fast, It's
• 1:05:47
  Speaker 2: gonna come quick. I'm just hoping these guys are ready
• 1:05:49
  Speaker 2: for it. And I think it's been it's it's been
• 1:05:52
  Speaker 2: even a short time. And I know I asked you
• 1:05:54
  Speaker 2: guys or you know the or Nick answered the question,
• 1:05:57
  Speaker 2: but you know, what's with the slow starts and.
• 1:06:00
  Speaker 3: You know, mentality and and and I agree. And at the.
• 1:06:04
  Speaker 2: End of it, guys, they've only been with with Gatuzo,
• 1:06:08
  Speaker 2: like before the first game, like they were with him
• 1:06:09
  Speaker 2: for what three four days? Yeah, four days, like Max,
• 1:06:13
  Speaker 2: let's say they were. They were together, they put some
• 1:06:16
  Speaker 2: training sessions together, and they kind of you know, spoke
• 1:06:21
  Speaker 2: and and whatnot, and then they went out to play.
• 1:06:23
  Speaker 3: So it's I'm just curious to see.
• 1:06:27
  Speaker 2: What these guys do with against quote unquote bigger opposition.
• 1:06:32
  Speaker 3: Like That's why I want to see where this team
• 1:06:35
  Speaker 3: can get to. That's why I want to just qualify
• 1:06:39
  Speaker 3: for the World Cup.
• 1:06:41
  Speaker 2: And I want to see us against you know, a
• 1:06:43
  Speaker 2: bit more of I don't want to say better whatever,
• 1:06:47
  Speaker 2: but just higher quality competition, just kind of see where
• 1:06:51
  Speaker 2: we're really at, you guys.
• 1:06:52
  Speaker 4: Honestly, I don't think we're far off.
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  Speaker 2: I think with the mentality and and and just the
• 1:07:00
  Speaker 2: getting the group together, I don't think we're far off. Personally,
• 1:07:03
  Speaker 2: like we have.
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  Speaker 4: We have quality.
• 1:07:07
  Speaker 2: I think we have quality players, maybe not all at
• 1:07:11
  Speaker 2: at the highest of levels, but I think we do
• 1:07:13
  Speaker 2: have a good I don't know, five six quality players
• 1:07:20
  Speaker 2: and others that are good enough to like be national
• 1:07:24
  Speaker 2: team quality in my opinion, maybe ten, maybe ten quality players,
• 1:07:27
  Speaker 2: I don't know whatever. Maybe we have a certain I
• 1:07:29
  Speaker 2: don't even know, but like just to say, I think
• 1:07:31
  Speaker 2: we have a good sixty.
• 1:07:33
  Speaker 3: Eight quality players. But after that it's it's it's good players.
• 1:07:38
  Speaker 2: That can that can suit up and and and and
• 1:07:40
  Speaker 2: do well under under whoever be at the helm this
• 1:07:43
  Speaker 2: case Catuso for the time a national team.
• 1:07:45
  Speaker 3: So I'm hoping this quality and and this and this
• 1:07:49
  Speaker 3: grinta and this.
• 1:07:50
  Speaker 2: You know this, this togetherness prevails and and and sets
• 1:07:54
  Speaker 2: us up for for you know, four wins from four
• 1:07:57
  Speaker 2: because again, like we said earlier, that's that's what we need.
• 1:08:00
  Speaker 2: So what a storyline? Though it would be a Gatuzzo
• 1:08:05
  Speaker 2: getting into the World Cup at San Siito, his former home,
• 1:08:09
  Speaker 2: couldn't read it. The only better thing it would be
• 1:08:11
  Speaker 2: is if it was in Calabria, this this match, that
• 1:08:13
  Speaker 2: would be.
• 1:08:14
  Speaker 4: I don't know if you guys have been seeing these
• 1:08:15
  Speaker 4: videos there.
• 1:08:17
  Speaker 3: I've been.
• 1:08:17
  Speaker 4: I send you guys.
• 1:08:18
  Speaker 3: Really, I don't know, man, but this guy he just
• 1:08:20
  Speaker 3: goes on.
• 1:08:20
  Speaker 2: A big, big runt and and and he's always praising
• 1:08:24
  Speaker 2: that he's from.
• 1:08:25
  Speaker 4: Calabria and everything.
• 1:08:26
  Speaker 3: I love it.
• 1:08:27
  Speaker 4: I love it. Listen. I don't know.
• 1:08:28
  Speaker 3: I love I love the italianational team.
• 1:08:30
  Speaker 2: Sue me, but I'm we need to be better and
• 1:08:33
  Speaker 2: hopefully come October eleventh, Uh, you know we'll be We'll
• 1:08:37
  Speaker 2: be there, right, We'll be.
• 1:08:38
  Speaker 1: There, guys, that will I think that'll do it for us.
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  Speaker 2: Uh.
• 1:08:42
  Speaker 1: Great to talk about the Zudio with you. I feel
• 1:08:44
  Speaker 1: like there was so much built up after watching the
• 1:08:47
  Speaker 1: game today. Good to let it all out. Big weekend
• 1:08:50
  Speaker 1: in the city this weekend, derby Detal. Yeah, we got Bologna, Milan, Bologna, Romatrino.
• 1:08:55
  Speaker 1: So we'll be back next week. Farantine Annapoli is also
• 1:08:58
  Speaker 1: an interesting game. We'll be back next week, guys, talk
• 1:09:00
  Speaker 1: about it, and we won't have to rant about the ensuit.
• 1:09:04
  Speaker 1: You might have to rant about our own team.
• 1:09:05
  Speaker 2: So in a month's time, guys, wait till another month,
• 1:09:07
  Speaker 2: we'll have to do this this all over again. But yes, guys,
• 1:09:11
  Speaker 2: just wrap up again. Like Nick open the show with,
• 1:09:13
  Speaker 2: we'll close the show with, thank you so much for
• 1:09:15
  Speaker 2: all the support, the follows, the likes, the subscription, whatever
• 1:09:20
  Speaker 2: made the listens like. We appreciate all the support, guys,
• 1:09:22
  Speaker 2: thank you so much. I love that we get together,
• 1:09:26
  Speaker 2: especially with the national team.
• 1:09:28
  Speaker 3: You know, we get a.
• 1:09:28
  Speaker 2: Lot more uh crazy engagement, it seems like with when
• 1:09:32
  Speaker 2: the national team comes on, so there's always something to
• 1:09:34
  Speaker 2: talk about. But yes, guys, follow support at the culture
• 1:09:38
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• 1:09:41
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• 1:09:57
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  Speaker 1: Thanks Susten, Joah Mine