Latest / SILVER / GOLD / $UFD Meme Coin Investing & Global Economics / Luca Netz - CEO of Pudgy Penguins SPECIAL GUEST!
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- 0:01The UFD community continues to grow, continues to strengthen.
- 0:06In about 10 minutes, we'll be joined by Luka Nets.
- 0:10He's the CEO of Pudgy Penguins. I'm going to ask him for his
- 0:13advice for our community. He's a guy who's been a leader
- 0:17in the meme coin and NFT sector for a few years now.
- 0:21We've got that to look forward to.
- 0:23But first, thank you for being here.
- 0:24Dusters, horns up. OK, we are on a good trip
- 0:29together. We got a lot of fun stuff to
- 0:31cover today. I want to start by going out and
- 0:34doing a check up on our social dominance.
- 0:38We know that's where we've been excelling lately.
- 0:41Emma gave us another great update yesterday.
- 0:44Today marks four days in a row yesterday that UFD had been
- 0:47ranked in the top ten of social dominance among meme coins.
- 0:52And yet again today, UFD is the only coin in the top 10 not
- 0:57valued in the hundreds of millions or billions of dollars.
- 1:02So there we are #8 on the list. You can see Pengu, who's right
- 1:07above us. Again, we're supposed to be
- 1:09joined by Luca here in about 10 minutes, but just look at some
- 1:13of these coins, look at their market cap compared to ours,
- 1:1710/20/30, almost 100 times higher than where we are.
- 1:21UFD Radar trends continue to outperform other major meme
- 1:26coins at 121,000 post. You guys are knocking it out of
- 1:31the park and despite the rough market condition, our holders
- 1:35stand at almost 41,000 people, 41,000 dusters.
- 1:44Pat yourself on the back horns up dusters, right?
- 1:48We are converting more and more butter cups by the day into
- 1:52dusters who are then turning into diamond hooves.
- 1:55We know what that means right? That means eventually we will
- 1:58have a bean shortage, eventually we will have a beanopoly and
- 2:03good times will be ahead for all of us.
- 2:05Hey, I wanted to mention something.
- 2:07I've been getting some emails from people or direct messages
- 2:11saying that I'm interacting too much with people on Twitter that
- 2:15don't have enough followers. I just want to be real clear
- 2:18with you guys. Look, I'm going to interact with
- 2:21people at every duster matters. Actually, one of the funnest
- 2:25things that I get to do is when I'm on the timeline and I see
- 2:29someone announce for the first time that they bought UFD, that
- 2:32they bought some beans and I can send them a direct message and
- 2:36say, hey, welcome to our community.
- 2:38Thank you for being here. Thank you for being part.
- 2:40I will always interact with the narwhals and the whales.
- 2:44Yes, of course they're very, very important.
- 2:47But I'll also interact with the people that have 100 beans or
- 2:511000 beans. To me, everyone matters, right?
- 2:54Whether it's my garbage man or the person at the McDonald's
- 2:57drive thru or my doctor or my lawyer, I treat them all the
- 3:02same. And I think that that's an
- 3:04important part of our community. We all matter.
- 3:07Of course. The whales matter, the narwhals
- 3:10as we call them, but also even that person that has the fewest
- 3:14amount of beans. We all matter.
- 3:16We all stick together, OK, Because remember, remember, I
- 3:21despairs repeating so important. We're so different from a lot of
- 3:26the other meme coins, especially with what's been going on
- 3:29recently. And we've got some big news out
- 3:31of the SEC that we're going to cover here in a second.
- 3:34However, don't forget guys, right?
- 3:37This is the insider dinner. This is the big secret meeting,
- 3:42right? And within Unicorn Fart Dust,
- 3:46you know some of these coins that have been launching lately,
- 3:48they have secret dinners where they distribute coins.
- 3:52And this is our secret dinner. And you get to choose from the
- 3:55menu, you get to choose what color Jelly Bean you want.
- 3:58You want an orange Jelly Bean, a green Jelly Bean or a blue Jelly
- 4:01Bean? The choice is yours.
- 4:03That's part of what makes us different.
- 4:06Every single duster matters, no doubt about it.
- 4:09OK, let's go look at this interesting information that
- 4:13came out from the SEC. This is breaking news as of
- 4:18today, and I believe good news for us because we're on the good
- 4:22side of the fence. The SEC Announces Cyber and
- 4:25Emerging Technologies Unit to Protect retail Investors for
- 4:31Immediate release The SEC today announced creation of the Cyber
- 4:35an Emerging Technology Unit to focus on combating cyber related
- 4:41misconduct and to protect retail investors from bad actors in the
- 4:46emerging technology space. Led by Laura de Laird replaces
- 4:50the crypto asset in Cyber UNIC and is comprised of
- 4:53approximately 30 specialist. OK quote.
- 4:57Under Laura's leadership, this new unit will complement the
- 5:00work of the Crypto Task Force led by Commissioner Hester
- 5:05Pierce. Importantly, the new unit will
- 5:07also allow the SEC to deploy enforcement resources
- 5:11judiciously. Easy for me to say.
- 5:15The unit will not only protect investors, but we'll also
- 5:19facilitate capital formation and market efficiency by clearing
- 5:24the way for innovation to grow. It will root out those seeking
- 5:29to misuse innovation to harm investors and diminish
- 5:33confidence in new technologies. Specifically that will utilize
- 5:37the staff substantial fintech and cyber related experience to
- 5:41combat misconduct as it relates to securities transactions.
- 5:45And they're going to be rooting out fraud committed using
- 5:48emerging technologies, using social media and dark web or
- 5:52false websites to perpetrate fraud.
- 5:55Hacking to obtain material non public information takeovers of
- 6:00retail brokerage accounts, fraud involving blockchain technology
- 6:04and crypto assets and regulated entities, compliance with
- 6:08cybersecurity rules and regulations and public issuer
- 6:12fraudulent disclosure relating to cybersecurity.
- 6:17So guys, it looks like they are stepping up their game in an
- 6:21effort, right to maybe maybe root out some of this, some of
- 6:26the shenanigans. Is it safe to say that look,
- 6:29look, you know, we focus on the positive.
- 6:31We focus on the good, right? That's what Unicorn fart does,
- 6:35does that's what our community does.
- 6:37But we know, and of course, the big one just recently was the
- 6:41Libra situation with Argentina, that there's been possibly some
- 6:49people in the meme coin sector that do things differently than
- 6:52the way we do it. We focus on honesty, integrity,
- 6:56reliability, community, good, attracting good.
- 7:00And let's just say I think you know what we're talking about,
- 7:03that there's some other actors out there.
- 7:05You know it. I still stand by this very, it's
- 7:08very important for us to remember this, right?
- 7:11The crazier things get or the crazier that they got over the
- 7:15last few weeks, the better we looked.
- 7:17And we're seeing that now with a renewed level of momentum and
- 7:22attention back on UFD. We just keep showing up.
- 7:27We keep doing good and it's paying off.
- 7:30It's it's paying dividends for us as we as we continue to grow
- 7:34and continue to have this great experience together.
- 7:37OK, let's go take a look here. Hopefully Luca will be joining
- 7:42us in just a few minutes, but we had a few fun things to take a
- 7:46look at. I thought this was actually
- 7:49something very interesting. Men is a guy that I look up to a
- 7:53person who has helped me on the German's dynasty and he put this
- 7:59out just yesterday that today I bought a good amount of UFD that
- 8:03would be us Dusters said from last week I'd given up on meme
- 8:07coins. The culture we used to love
- 8:10suddenly became all about money, money, money and with it
- 8:14heightened greed and diabolical levels of extraction.
- 8:18As I said before, I felt this shift immediately after the
- 8:21Trump plus Melania, especially after Melania's launch.
- 8:26Ron in the UFD community he's talking to you have stood
- 8:30strong. And if you've watched his last
- 8:33few streams, he's starting to also deeply understand crypto.
- 8:36Wow, that's a big compliment. I don't know that I'd go that
- 8:39far, but thank you, men. The narrative has not changed at
- 8:44all. Think about what he just said,
- 8:46guys. Our narrative, our story, right?
- 8:49Our core beliefs that we operate on have not changed at all.
- 8:55If anything, through this chaos, it's it's gotten even stronger.
- 8:59I've been less vocal about my favorite meme coins over the
- 9:02last few weeks because the environment has just been weird.
- 9:06I would agree with that. Now it's hard for me because
- 9:08I've only been in meme coins for about 10 weeks, but my belief in
- 9:12this movement has never wavered. Meme coins may never get back to
- 9:16what they once were, but I know one I know what things I'll be
- 9:21holding. And then he posted that picture
- 9:24of that interesting looking character that you Oh no, I
- 9:27forgot to share that. Sorry, guys, I apologize.
- 9:32You were looking at the SEC thing.
- 9:34There's men's. There is men's post all the way
- 9:38through. I read it to you line by line.
- 9:41So welcome to the basement, right?
- 9:43Welcome to live streaming with Ron.
- 9:47So very interesting men is a guy who's highly respected within
- 9:52the crypto world. Very, very smart.
- 9:55Sorry. I should have told you that I
- 10:01didn't even notice it myself, but he did get a super chat from
- 10:03Don Ho. So thank you.
- 10:05Thank you, Don for the Super chat.
- 10:06Susie, you want to say hello to everybody?
- 10:09Good afternoon, everybody. Thank you, Susie.
- 10:15OK, so sorry about that guys. I forgot to share the
- 10:18appropriate screen yet again. We got a few more fun things to
- 10:23look at here. Let me pull that up and look at
- 10:29this piece of art put together by one of our one of our fellow
- 10:34Duster's UFD Duster's feet, Luca Nets.
- 10:38And Luca hopefully here is going to be joining us in just a few
- 10:41seconds. You know, he's a highly
- 10:43respected person within the crypto arena.
- 10:48Obviously there he is. All right, speak of him.
- 10:51I'm gonna put him on Luca. Hey Ron, how you doing?
- 10:57I'm doing great. Thank you so much for joining us
- 10:59today. I'm happy to be here.
- 11:01I love that big Penguin in your background.
- 11:05Hey, not only that, hold on, I'll move my microphone.
- 11:08I am wearing my sweatshirt. So yeah, you know, I've always,
- 11:12I felt, always felt a certain camaraderie with with pudgy
- 11:15Penguins and you. And so thank you.
- 11:19Now I got to tell you, hold on. I'm going to pull up the full
- 11:21screen because there's actually 3 Penguins on the screen.
- 11:25So later I'm going to see if you can point them all out for us.
- 11:28OK, I love that. It's going to be like one of
- 11:29those games that I played when growing up on the book.
- 11:32That's right. Exactly.
- 11:33Yeah. The the giant, the giant
- 11:35Penguin. You know, it's interesting.
- 11:36About this time of day, the sun comes in from one of the windows
- 11:40and lights them up really well. So perfect timing.
- 11:43You know, I didn't I totally blanked on this, but I'll I'll
- 11:46text you after this stream. But if you're streaming, there's
- 11:50a we we have abstract, which has like the native crypto streams.
- 11:54You'll be able to like earn rewards, you know, future
- 11:56AirDrop and things like that. I, I, I popped into it.
- 12:00I was like, I should have told Ron, we should have done it on
- 12:01abstract because it's got its own audience, got people viewing
- 12:04it anyway. And plus, you know, when, when
- 12:06that kind of comes to fruition, you'll be able to like earn some
- 12:09free monies that I think could be pretty cool.
- 12:12Yeah, that sounds awesome. You know, I've read about
- 12:14abstract a little bit and can you, can you like, can you just
- 12:18briefly explain it to me like what it is and how it works?
- 12:22Yeah, So we, we decided to start building a blockchain about six
- 12:25months ago. And I think like whatever the
- 12:27problems that we were looking to solve, I think there was really
- 12:292, which was, you know, the 0 to one in crypto is impossible.
- 12:33So if you go to ABS dot XYZ, you can kind of go through that
- 12:35flow. And I think we have the best
- 12:37zero to 1 onboarding in crypto e-mail code, you're in, you have
- 12:40your wallet, you have your full set up.
- 12:42And I think the other side of it is like, how do you actually
- 12:45create an ecosystem that's vertically integrated into one
- 12:48singular domain that is really predicated around entertainment,
- 12:51right? So the whole, the whole
- 12:53ecosystem is really, you know, built around fun applications.
- 12:56You have streamers making content around these fun
- 12:58applications. All of that kind of ties into
- 13:00this one singular interface. And the whole goal and the
- 13:03objective is to really make crypto easy for, you know, the
- 13:06person, maybe like yourself or or your friends and your family
- 13:09members. You're pretty experienced now.
- 13:10All right. But like, as, as you know, when
- 13:12you first came into this, you're like, right, it's kind of hard
- 13:15to put the pieces together. So you got to make it easy to
- 13:18put the pieces together. Yeah, keep it.
- 13:20Keep it simple. Did I see this morning that you
- 13:23can now use Pengu to pay on? Was it Shopify or something
- 13:29along those lines? On Shopify baby, so I think
- 13:32there's a couple thousand websites now that have Pengu
- 13:35integrated and we got some big ones coming, so I'm excited for
- 13:37that. So you can actually use it as as
- 13:40as a payment when you buy, when you, when you purchase things.
- 13:43Yeah. Wow, wow.
- 13:45Congratulations. I appreciate that and I, I was,
- 13:51I was going to reach out to you about something I wanted to do
- 13:53like a little product with the, with the Unicorn.
- 13:56I know we, I know we talked about that last time we spoke,
- 13:58but we got to get into that. I yes, I would be very, very
- 14:03interested in talking to you about that.
- 14:05I feel there's AI guess a kinship, I can call it, or the a
- 14:11shared value system between pudgy Penguins and Unicorn
- 14:16Bartus. And I know that the community
- 14:19feels the same way and I know that you have an expertise and
- 14:24in taking, you know, products to market.
- 14:26And I think it's something that that I'd be very interested in
- 14:29talking to you about. Luca.
- 14:31Absolutely. You know I'm ready to
- 14:33rock'n'roll. Yeah, yeah.
- 14:35So let me ask you a question. I saw a tweet that you put out a
- 14:39couple days ago that you something along the lines of are
- 14:43the good guys going to win like within this environment within
- 14:46meme coins? And do you care to comment on
- 14:48that at all at this point? Yeah, I think, I think we will.
- 14:54I think it's been a really rough last 6-8 weeks.
- 14:58I know you felt that. I know I've felt that.
- 14:59I think all of our communities have felt it basically like
- 15:02every meme coin is took in a 7080% haircut and it doesn't
- 15:07feel good. And I think ultimately it's a
- 15:09byproduct of a lot of these bad actors coming in and taking
- 15:11something that is really fun and meaningful and I think has a ton
- 15:16of potential and then just using it.
- 15:18And you know, but ultimately bad, bad actors don't make a
- 15:22category. I think the good actors do and
- 15:27and they will win. They will win it just in
- 15:30moments, in moments like I think the last couple of weeks, it
- 15:33feels like they're not going to, or you can start second guessing
- 15:36it, but you know, it's kind of like a mean to reversion.
- 15:39You know, when the country goes so far left and we go right or
- 15:42we go so far right, you go left. It's like kind of everything,
- 15:45you know, it's a societal thing. And I think right now mean coins
- 15:49have gone so far left to like the worst of what I think they
- 15:53they could be. And so like the mean will revert
- 15:57now. I think we'll go, we're going to
- 15:58start getting right in the right direction and I think you know
- 16:02you myself, you know a couple others I think are are going to
- 16:05be a benefactors of that. Yeah, it feels like and I've
- 16:09only been in this for 10 weeks, right, Luca?
- 16:11So. But even within those 10 weeks,
- 16:14it. Seems like 10 weeks.
- 16:16What A10? What's that, buddy?
- 16:19What a 10 weeks to be a part of it.
- 16:21You, you picked a crazy 10 weeks.
- 16:23I'll tell and I'll tell you, Ron, you, you, you survived
- 16:26these these type of 10 weeks. I've been here for seven years,
- 16:3188 years now. Wow, I've been here for eight
- 16:34years. This is as bad as it's gotten.
- 16:36This is this because usually there's like, it's never been
- 16:41this angry and aggressive. It's only been this way off the
- 16:45backs of black Swans. This is the first time there
- 16:48hasn't been a Black Swan in which people are just out to
- 16:51kill. And they're just so resentful
- 16:53and so angry. It's just a, you know, it just
- 16:57feels so dire. So you, you, I, I told, you
- 17:00know, I've been telling people around me this like you make it
- 17:03out of this one. You'll you'll, you'll you'll
- 17:05make it out of anything in this space, I think.
- 17:07Yeah. And, and do you feel like like
- 17:10your community, your the, the pudgy Penguin community?
- 17:13Because I feel this with UFD, it doesn't feel like we're maybe
- 17:17expanding a lot in the last few weeks by numbers, but it feels
- 17:21like the community is like galvanizing and and becoming
- 17:26forged even stronger throughout this like difficult period.
- 17:31Red Red candles make community. You don't have a community
- 17:34without red candles, right? The green can the green, the
- 17:37community built around green candles is not a community.
- 17:41It's, it's, it's, it's people, you know, piling into the
- 17:45opportunity, which is totally fine, right?
- 17:47Communities forged during the downturns, right?
- 17:50Like one of the, you know, you don't know too much about the
- 17:52purchase of Pudgy Penguins. I bought it, right?
- 17:54So I'm not the creator or the founder.
- 17:56I actually bought it because I saw the opportunity.
- 17:58An interesting thing for you that like, and for the people
- 18:01listening, one of the reasons why I bought it was because
- 18:05Pudgy's run went from like zero and a .1 ETH to four ETH and
- 18:09then through like a bunch of chaos and FUD, you know, went to
- 18:12like point 6.5. I think .5 was a low point 6.7
- 18:17kind of want to hover that so very much an 8085% retrace in
- 18:20which they kind of stood there for a little bit.
- 18:23And the fascinating part for me and one of the like the when I
- 18:27was like looking at the vectors as to like what, why should I
- 18:30buy this was like, it wasn't going to 0, you know, And if it
- 18:37and if and if it didn't go to 0, then I think that presented a
- 18:40really unique opportunity where I felt like the community was
- 18:45buying this, not for any other reason outside of the love for
- 18:49the Penguin. And then being able to hold that
- 18:52line and build that camaraderie and build that community and
- 18:56build that friendship was really indicative of me of something
- 18:59that was going to stand the test of time.
- 19:02But you wouldn't know that if you don't know that.
- 19:05Like you wouldn't know that if you don't go down 80% or 85%.
- 19:09I mean, these are blessings. Doesn't feel like that, you know
- 19:11what I mean? Like we're all human.
- 19:13And, you know, community members could be frustrated.
- 19:15You could be frustrated, I could be frustrated.
- 19:17But ultimately, like the beauty and these assets to like look at
- 19:22doge, look at anything that's ever broken through, like these
- 19:26assets are going to have. This is not going to be be the
- 19:28first time this is going to happen, right?
- 19:30And, and it's going to happen many times.
- 19:32If, if your destiny is truly pure preordained and if you
- 19:36actually are going to be something that is going to be
- 19:38great within this industry, right?
- 19:40It's going, it's going to have to have these, these moments.
- 19:44And there's either 2 directions. It's either going to die and
- 19:47wither away or it's going to come back, right?
- 19:50And, and I think it's too early to tell.
- 19:52I think we're, you know, it feels like the bottom.
- 19:55We'll see, you know, and, and, and, and, but you know, you make
- 20:00it back from this. You're on a path towards
- 20:02greatness. So let's see, let's see what the
- 20:04Unicorn fart dust community is made-up.
- 20:06Let's see what the Pengu community is made-up.
- 20:08And hopefully I see you guys at the top and I, I have every
- 20:11expectation that both of our communities will be there.
- 20:14Yeah, I was going to say I have a feeling we're both going to be
- 20:16there at the top because, yeah, the other component is, you
- 20:19know, like you're a steady presence within the Pengu
- 20:23community. I'm a steady presence within the
- 20:25UFD community. There's something to be said for
- 20:29continuing, you know, the March forward through the hard times,
- 20:33like you said, like, you know, like it's it's it's easy to be
- 20:37feeling good when and and quote UN quote growing when there's a
- 20:41bunch of green candles. But the, the true test comes
- 20:45during the hard times and, and it feels like, you know, as I
- 20:49observe your community and I observe what's going on in ours
- 20:53that we're, that we're proving that.
- 20:56And I've only been at this for 10 weeks, but we're proving that
- 21:00we're here to stay. And it's, it's becoming,
- 21:02becoming stronger. Well, I'll, I'll speak to you.
- 21:05And this is like, you know, most people in moments like this curl
- 21:09up in a ball and fold, right? And so you showing up and being
- 21:12present, like, let that be a testament to your community.
- 21:14I think that was really important for me these last
- 21:16couple of weeks is like, OK, like, now's not the time to not
- 21:20do the interviews and to not do the podcast.
- 21:23Like now is the time to do as many of those, right?
- 21:25Because I, I feel just the same as I did six weeks ago, 8 weeks
- 21:31ago, when we're at all time highs.
- 21:32That hasn't changed, right? Like maybe the price has and the
- 21:36market has, but my condition in this, my belief in this, in this
- 21:40community, in this IP, in this entity, you know, and, and if
- 21:44anything, like I should be championing it now more than
- 21:46ever because the trade's gotten better, right?
- 21:48So, you know, let, let that, let that be a symbol of, you know, a
- 21:53lot of respect for you, Ron, especially as a newcomer, right,
- 21:55somebody who hasn't been been in this for very long.
- 21:59There's a lot shows a lot of of your character.
- 22:01Yeah, yeah. So, so as you've built Pudgy
- 22:05Penguins, I wanted to ask you what are what are some of the
- 22:08big lessons you've learned about community and what makes the
- 22:11difference between some of the other communities and what
- 22:15you've been able to accomplish with with Pudgy Penguins?
- 22:18Yeah, I think, you know, part of it is what we just spoke about
- 22:21now, which is like the tenacity to survive and to and to be
- 22:25there, like resilience, right, Is such an important part of the
- 22:28community. I think, I think the ability to
- 22:33just like communicate in a line and try to be in there with
- 22:37them. I I don't think like any founder
- 22:39who's taking the approach of like an ivory tower might have
- 22:41succeeded in the past. I don't think they'll succeed in
- 22:43the future. I think, you know, you are the,
- 22:48you know, you are a piece of the hive mind.
- 22:50You are not the singular mind, right?
- 22:52It is, it's a group of people who are here together and you
- 22:55know, I'm, I have a big organization.
- 22:57So I tell our organization like, you know, we're the muscle to
- 23:00the, to the mind that is everyone who's aligned here.
- 23:05That's probably a really important one.
- 23:07And then I think just like, you know, having something that in
- 23:14like having something that I think is bigger than yourself to
- 23:16believe in, I think is important, You know, especially
- 23:19in times like this, it this, this, I can't stress enough.
- 23:22Like these are the times. These this is this is the, this
- 23:25is the, this is the, this is the crux of it, all right?
- 23:29Like this is this is the crutch moments like this, because when
- 23:32everything's going up into the right, it doesn't tell you
- 23:34anything. It doesn't it doesn't
- 23:36necessarily mean anything. It means something for the
- 23:38community because elephant in the room is things cost money.
- 23:41People are spending money, right?
- 23:42You don't want to ignore that. That's important.
- 23:46But I think it's just like the beauty of like what it, when you
- 23:49remove that from the equation, why are you here, right?
- 23:52Because if you don't have your why, it just becomes a trade
- 23:56and, and look like anyone here is making a trade, like
- 23:59shouldn't be here at this moment, right?
- 24:01Like the, the trade is, you know, the, the OR, or, you know,
- 24:05you should have a plan and they, they shouldn't be watching live
- 24:08streams or engaging in the content.
- 24:10A lot of the people that are here right now watching this or
- 24:13participating in, you know, other parts of the ecosystem,
- 24:15whether it's yours or mine, like those are believers.
- 24:18Those are people who have a greater purpose.
- 24:20And that, that is the, the thing that people lose sight of very
- 24:24quickly, right? Is like, well, why do, why, why
- 24:28was I even in this in the 1st place?
- 24:29There's really 2 buckets you're in to make a trade in which you
- 24:33have a plan and you, your likelihood of participating in
- 24:37streams like this or watching things like this, or probably,
- 24:40you know, in the singular percentage tile or you're in the
- 24:43other bucket where you, where you genuinely believe in
- 24:45something, right? And, and why do you believe in
- 24:48it, right? Well, you, did you believe in it
- 24:51because of the price? Well, that was a farce, right?
- 24:53Did you, or did you believe in it because maybe the, the future
- 24:56price is a thing, But like, there has to be something more,
- 25:00right? There has to be something more
- 25:02there in it. And that's something more.
- 25:03Doesn't need to be toys or products.
- 25:06Or it can be camaraderie, It can be friendship.
- 25:09It's community, right? A mission, a mission, a shared
- 25:14mission. Yeah.
- 25:15You know, as you, as you were talking, I was thinking about
- 25:17community. And like, as I, as I look at, I
- 25:20think, I guess any community, it's like a network of, of all
- 25:24these different relationships between all these different
- 25:27people that have a like a shared goal and a shared reason why,
- 25:33right. And when I think about about and
- 25:35you, you're, you're, you're the, the, the CEO and the, the
- 25:39expert. But when I think about pudgy
- 25:41Penguins and what I've learned about them and I, when I think
- 25:44about Unicorn fart dust, I feel like we kind of share this idea
- 25:49of like fairness and trust and good and, and being like a, like
- 25:56a, like an opportunity for normal everyday people to get
- 26:00engaged and have these relationships with each other.
- 26:04But also be part of this bigger, I guess mission, for lack of a
- 26:08better way to say it, where, where we are wanting good, not
- 26:13just like, I don't know, I don't want to use Libra as an example,
- 26:17but like it's just a situation that's just purely about making
- 26:21money, right? Like we have a bigger, a bigger,
- 26:25a bigger. Why behind us.
- 26:26Does that? Does that make sense?
- 26:28Totally. I mean and and and that that is
- 26:31the difference between I think the groups that will stand the
- 26:33test of time. I mean, what is, you know, you
- 26:36know, I, I learned this a hard way.
- 26:38It's like an anecdotal experience, but like, you know,
- 26:40making money is futile if there's not a why, nor is it
- 26:43that enjoyable after a certain point, right?
- 26:46So like there, there needs to be, Hey, look, there's, there's,
- 26:50you know, you want to make money, go on the pump fun
- 26:52trenches and start clicking until your eyes fall off, right?
- 26:56Or or believe in something and and and figure out your why and
- 27:00and align on that. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
- 27:02I saw a post on your on the pudgy Penguins earlier, Like
- 27:07there was a walk that people were doing, I think in Hong
- 27:10Kong. And you know, just like, and
- 27:13that's, I think with UFD where we aspire to get at some point,
- 27:17right, where people are having meetups and doing these things
- 27:21for good. Do you think events like that
- 27:24even further galvanized your your community?
- 27:27It it makes the difference, right?
- 27:29Price up 100%, down 70%, doesn't matter.
- 27:32We're still all hanging out together.
- 27:34You know, we're all there for one another.
- 27:37There isn't a city or country in the world that you can't go find
- 27:41somebody who's aligned with pudgy Penguins who won't help
- 27:43you if you need help. That is the value, right?
- 27:46And, and, and that value compounds specifically in an
- 27:50industry where the reason why that matters, right?
- 27:53Because like some traditional people could roll their eyes and
- 27:56be like, that's a farce, right? Or that's a story that they're
- 27:58trying to tell in an industry like this.
- 28:02It is really relevant because it's so digitized and it's so
- 28:07volatile and can be so angry that that actually has a, a
- 28:13ginormous premium, right? And it matters actually so much
- 28:18because it is it is very much the light, you know, in a very
- 28:21dark tunnel, right? The dark tunnel being technology
- 28:25and, you know, financial motivations and like all of
- 28:31that, like, you know, stuff that, you know, on, on your
- 28:35deathbed, like doesn't matter, you know, but what matters is
- 28:39people, it's friends, it's camaraderie, It's, it's being
- 28:42there for one another. It's going and saying, Hey, I'm
- 28:45going to consensus in Hong Kong, but let me go rally with 100
- 28:48people to go on a hike and enjoy nature and, you know, share
- 28:51information and, and, and just be with one another in, in, in,
- 28:56in, in some parts of the world, that's common in our crypto
- 29:00universe. It is not right.
- 29:02And, and so that, that is actually where the, that, that's
- 29:06the floor, right? That sets the floor as to like,
- 29:10you know what I mean? You know, the ceiling, you can't
- 29:12control the ceiling, right? To some extent, you can control
- 29:16a floor at some point. I can't control what the market
- 29:18is, but at some point you got to buy, you know, at some point
- 29:21you're going to buy a pudgy Penguin and a pengu because the,
- 29:24because there's a, there's an intrinsic floor to that, right?
- 29:28And, and people will be a part of that at some point.
- 29:32And that's that that I think is important.
- 29:35In the in the in what I've learned, and you correct me if
- 29:38I'm wrong, Luca, but what I've learned is like the real value
- 29:43in a meme coin is in the community, right?
- 29:47That's really all that all that it is.
- 29:49And, you know, I read something about four weeks ago that that
- 29:54made me feel good about what I'm doing, you know, is my small
- 29:57part within the, within the UFD community.
- 30:00And that what I read was that. And it made sense to me that
- 30:03there's an an epidemic of isolation going on in the world
- 30:07now and that people are hungry for connection and people are
- 30:12hungry to be parts of community and people are hungry to have
- 30:16like a mission. And I thought that it like a big
- 30:19light bulb. I've got a few light bulbs left
- 30:21up there. They can still come on.
- 30:23But a big light bulb went on. And I thought that's what we're
- 30:26doing, right? That's the why I think you said
- 30:29that earlier behind behind what I think a lot of the the good
- 30:34communities are doing is giving people, you know, that
- 30:38opportunity to be involved and that opportunity to have a why.
- 30:42And I think that's a good thing. Yeah, I totally agree.
- 30:46Yep, Yep. Well, thank you.
- 30:50It's always great to talk to you.
- 30:51Now before you leave, you got I'm gonna I'm gonna quiz you and
- 30:54see if you can find you're ready to play.
- 30:56Find the three Penguins. There's all right, There's all
- 31:00right. Luca, can you see the whole
- 31:01screen? There's three Penguins.
- 31:03I think you found one of them already.
- 31:05You see the second one? I found the second one on the
- 31:07bear. On the bear.
- 31:09Now the third one's hard. Top right chef's hat.
- 31:13Yep, you got him. Actually, I got to tell you.
- 31:15Oh, you know what? Susie wants to say hi to you
- 31:17too. Hold on a second.
- 31:19You know, I don't know if you know this, but Susie, my wife
- 31:22talks to me via walkie-talkie. Oh, there's four.
- 31:26There's four. What do you mean there's four?
- 31:31Susie, is there another Penguin? It's.
- 31:34On. You.
- 31:35Oh, it's on me. That's right.
- 31:36There's one on my shirt. Yes.
- 31:38There we go. There's one on my shirt as well.
- 31:40You want to say hi to Luca real quick?
- 31:42Hi. Luca, it's great to have you on
- 31:45today. Thank you so much for your time.
- 31:48We, we appreciate you, Susie, for taking care of Ron.
- 31:51Ron looks so good. I mean, Ron, you're, you're, you
- 31:54know, you look 40. Well they I'm 55, yesterday was
- 31:58my birthday so. Happy birthday, man.
- 32:00Your skin's better than mine. You're glowing.
- 32:02You're looking good dude. Well, you know, I, I, I, I got
- 32:05to be honest with you, Luca. I was nervous before this.
- 32:09I always get nervous. I've said that before, but you
- 32:12are somebody that I really look up to.
- 32:16I think I may have told you this story, but like the second night
- 32:19into my Unicorn fart dust journey, I watched a video
- 32:23someone had sent me of Murad, this speech he did at the
- 32:26Singapore conference. And then you popped up next and
- 32:30within like I'm, I'm serious within like 3 minutes of
- 32:33listening to you talk, I'll just be honest with you.
- 32:36I thought this, this young man is a gene is a genius.
- 32:39So the opportunity to get you on here and I think, you know, I
- 32:44don't know how to describe it, but I feel a real camaraderie
- 32:48between our communities and that we're aligned on a lot of the
- 32:51same things. I know a lot of people in the
- 32:55UFD community are also in the the pengu community, pudgy
- 32:58Penguin community. And I just have a lot of respect
- 33:02for you and what you've accomplished in such a short
- 33:06time. But the but at the same time,
- 33:09what I just know is a very solid community.
- 33:13So thank you. OK.
- 33:15I appreciate that Ron, and the respect is mutual and I hope you
- 33:18have a great rest of your day. You too.
- 33:20Thanks Luca. See you later.
- 33:21And I got to get you on abstract.
- 33:23I got to get you streaming on abstract.
- 33:24If you're going to stream, it's the same setup.
- 33:26So I'm going to set you up on that.
- 33:27Can I do it through? I use stream yard, can I do it
- 33:30through? It's the exact same thing you
- 33:31would do anywhere else. OK, All right, we're.
- 33:34Just going to get points that are or XP that's going to
- 33:37convert to money and it might just be I might be able to get
- 33:40you and and misses UFD maybe a lake house one day.
- 33:47I'm all in favor of that buddy. Thank you.
- 33:49And if let's talk in the next week or so about a maybe a joint
- 33:53product as well. I think that would be really,
- 33:56really awesome. I know the community would be
- 33:59super excited about it as well. I'm ready to rock, boss.
- 34:02Have a great rest of your day. All right, All right.
- 34:04Thanks, Luca. Bye.
- 34:05Bye. All right, guys.
- 34:08Wow. And that's the truth.
- 34:10The story I told about about Luca listening to an interview
- 34:16that he did on like the second night that I was in the UFD,
- 34:20I've always felt a real camaraderie.
- 34:23I said it already with with the Pudgy Penguin community.
- 34:26So hey guys, thanks for being here.
- 34:29Thank you for being part of the UFD community, part of Duster
- 34:34Club. You know, it's I just really
- 34:37feel like our momentum is continuing to grow and
- 34:41continuing to grow, but that's only happening because like Luca
- 34:45talked about and we and I talked about, right, because of these,
- 34:48these relationships that are being formed within our
- 34:52community, people looking out for each other, people trusting
- 34:56each other. And I think even most
- 34:58importantly, and I'm glad he brought that up.
- 35:00You know the why behind, like what is the why behind what
- 35:04we're doing and the why is good attracts good, but why is a fair
- 35:10and level playing field. But why is you know, the the way
- 35:14that UFD was created and and and really the way it was created
- 35:19was because of a community takeover from you from day one.
- 35:24So keep up the great work. Again, I want to say thanks to
- 35:28Luca for joining us today and go Penguins, go UFD and I'll see
- 35:34you guys tomorrow. Thank you.