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The Kenny Report | 17 September · The Kenny Report

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Speaker 1: Line from the Skying New Center.
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Speaker 2: This is the Kenny Report.
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Speaker 1: Thanks for joining me tonight.
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Speaker 3: Anthony Albanezi gets another rebuff in the Pacific as Papua
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Speaker 3: New Guinea stalls on signing a new defense treaty. The
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Speaker 3: labor government tips another billion dollars into net zero policies
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Speaker 3: as a coal mine closes and the bias of its
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Speaker 3: climate risk report is exposed. Israel accused of genocide by
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Speaker 3: a UN body that includes China, Cutter and Cuba. I'll
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Speaker 3: get an expert take to on that false equivalence in
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Speaker 3: the report into Islamophobia in Australia. Also Pauline Hansen, James
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Speaker 3: Bold and Justin Smith on Susan Lee talking empowerment and
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Speaker 3: Charlie Kirk's alleged killer in court.
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Speaker 1: Let's get into it.
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Speaker 3: The Albanezi Labor government and their Greens and Teal mates
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Speaker 3: really ought to get there story straight. They spend every
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Speaker 3: waking moment telling us that global warming is going to
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Speaker 3: cook us as they run a perpetual fear campaign about
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Speaker 3: climate change to justify their crazy climate and energy policies.
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Speaker 3: But at the same time they seem to think that
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Speaker 3: it can all be fixed by higher taxes. And more
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Speaker 3: government spending. They tipped out another billion dollars today for
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Speaker 3: a so called low carbon fuel fund.
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Speaker 4: Climate change poses an extreme economic risk, and net zero
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Speaker 4: provides us with a very substantial economic opportunity. Can't separate
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Speaker 4: the climate threat from the net zero economic opportunity.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, what genius.
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Speaker 3: Perhaps this will burn as much taxpayers money as the
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Speaker 3: exploding cigar of the green hydrogen revolution. All this is
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Speaker 3: of course an economic boom for China. As we discussed
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Speaker 3: last night, All this makes us poorer and weaker, and
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Speaker 3: it makes China richer and stronger.
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Speaker 1: That's why you have to get used to in the climate.
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Speaker 3: And energy debate. Black is white, up is down, and
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Speaker 3: flood is drought.
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Speaker 1: They tell us it will.
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Speaker 3: Never rain again, the rivers will run dry, and that's
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Speaker 3: climate change. Then it doesn't stop raining, and the dams
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Speaker 3: overflow and we get floods, and they say that's climate
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Speaker 3: change too. They say climate change means the snowfields won't
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Speaker 3: have enough cover for ski season, and then good falls.
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Speaker 1: See the ski season extended.
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Speaker 3: They say sea levels are rising, but they don't, and
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Speaker 3: waterfront properties keep selling. And then they tell us again
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Speaker 3: global warming, we'll see coastal areas inundated, but the beachfront
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Speaker 3: properties get no cheaper. I'm ready to pounce when they fall.
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Speaker 3: They say there are more cyclones, but there are actually fewer.
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Speaker 3: They say they'll be worse, but they're not. They say
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Speaker 3: our maximum heat records are broken, but they forget to
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Speaker 3: mention that's only because they reduced the earlier records, adjusted
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Speaker 3: them downwards. They say the cost of inaction, which is nothing.
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Speaker 3: If we do nothing, it'll make no difference. They say
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Speaker 3: that cost will always be more than the hundreds of
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Speaker 3: billions of dollars they're spending. This is just lunacy, of course.
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Speaker 3: Yet it's this lot that say their critics are nuts.
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Speaker 4: The Liberal Party is run now by this weird collection
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Speaker 4: of cookers and crackpots. And nowhere is that more obvious
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Speaker 4: than when it comes to net zero.
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Speaker 1: The whole thing is just so damaging and dishonest.
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Speaker 3: I told you last night that one of the ways
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Speaker 3: you could tell the Climate Risk Report was so unscientific
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Speaker 3: was that it failed to mention any benefits from global warming.
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Speaker 1: It was all doom and destruction.
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Speaker 3: Well, that was highlighted in a Senate inquiry yesterday. You see,
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Speaker 3: when it comes to deaths from weather around the world
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Speaker 3: and including here in Australia, there are far more deaths
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Speaker 3: from cold in winter than there are from heat in summer.
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Speaker 3: Even the IPCC reports admit that in net terms, a
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Speaker 3: warmer climate will save more lives than it will take
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Speaker 3: so National Senator Matt Canavan questioned the Climate Service about whether,
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Speaker 3: as well as generating fear about heat deaths.
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Speaker 1: From global warming, they also.
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Speaker 3: Calculated lives saved from a warmer winter.
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Speaker 5: Have a look, did you estimate the potential reduction in
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Speaker 5: deaths from cold.
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Speaker 6: And no, we did not.
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Speaker 5: Well, I might say more people from cold and peat.
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Speaker 6: In Australia, we sat climate houses, so it was out
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Speaker 6: of scope for a report.
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Speaker 5: That isn't if the climate warms might be fewer cold.
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Speaker 6: We were looking at physical risk from climate houses specifically,
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Speaker 6: and that the transition risk, which has included any changes
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Speaker 6: to do with mitigation, were out of scope.
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Speaker 5: But this is not a mitigation risk. This is a
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Speaker 5: direct result, presumably of the climate warns there'll be fewer
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Speaker 5: people who die because it's too cold, them missing something.
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Speaker 1: That was that side of our scope.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, good news was out of scope. Brilliant work by
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Speaker 3: Senator Canavan.
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Speaker 1: That's it. That's game, set and match.
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Speaker 3: They are not interested in science, They are not interested
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Speaker 3: in cost benefit analysis, they are not interested in facts.
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Speaker 3: They are only interested in producing climate fear porm. Shame
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Speaker 3: on them and the government that directs them. It's time
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Speaker 3: the opposition and the public put the heat on the government. Sadly,
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Speaker 3: while Shadow Defense Minister Andrew Hasty has called out the
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Speaker 3: net zero farce, saying he'd resign if the coalition again
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Speaker 3: adopted a net zero target, he's revealed today that most
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Speaker 3: Liberal MPs don't agree with him.
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Speaker 7: Most of my colleagues, in fact, don't support my position.
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Speaker 1: So I'm in the minority here.
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Speaker 7: I mean, if you pulled out a spreadsheet, spreadsheet, Pete,
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Speaker 7: you'd find that a lot of people don't support my
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Speaker 7: energy position. So I am in the minority here, and
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Speaker 7: I know that that's a worry.
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Speaker 3: It means either that the majority of liberal MPs are
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Speaker 3: not across the facts, or more likely, the majority of
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Speaker 3: liberal MPs reckon it's better to follow polls and try
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Speaker 3: to say what they think the majority wants, rather than
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Speaker 3: doing what's right for the country and trying to bring.
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Speaker 1: People with them.
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Speaker 3: It's especially worrying because the Opposition leader Susan Lee gave
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Speaker 3: a major speech today outlining how the size of government
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Speaker 3: spending and government debt, and the over reliance of people
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Speaker 3: on government are serious problems that the coalition needs to tackle.
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Speaker 8: If this period has taught us anything it is that
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Speaker 8: trying to give everyone a slice of the government pie,
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Speaker 8: regardless of need, is a recipe for fiscal failure. Universal
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Speaker 8: free everything might sound nice, but in reality it drains
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Speaker 8: resources from those who need help most.
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Speaker 3: Great But one of the prime areas where government spending
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Speaker 3: is too high, where it subsidizes too much, and where
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Speaker 3: it's handing out too much money all to the detriment
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Speaker 3: of the nation is in the pursuit of net zero.
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Speaker 3: It's costing hundreds of billions of dollars and it's undermining
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Speaker 3: our economy. It should be the first target for cutting
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Speaker 3: government spending and making government smaller, smarter and better, which
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Speaker 3: is supposed to be what the opposition leader is all about.
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Speaker 8: Moving to empower is about restoring the right balance between
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Speaker 8: what citizens provide for themselves and what taxpayers provide as
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Speaker 8: a safety net. It's about reaffirming that government can do
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Speaker 8: a lot of good, but it cannot and should not
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Speaker 8: do everything.
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Speaker 3: Fair enough, but we need to see the detail of
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Speaker 3: how you're going to do that. As for Labor and
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Speaker 3: most of the Canberra Press Gallery, they're so insulated from
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Speaker 3: reality and political history that they've tried to undermine Lee's
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Speaker 3: speech by saying it's an echo of Joe Hockey when
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Speaker 3: he was Treasurer more than a decade ago.
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Speaker 1: We are a nation of lifters, not leners. But that's
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Speaker 1: not a Hockey maxim.
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Speaker 3: That was just the treasurer at the time, using a
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Speaker 3: key phrase in the Liberal philosophy, and this is something
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Speaker 3: Lee is wise to rely on. The division between lifters
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Speaker 3: and leaners was a central phrase used by the Liberal
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Speaker 3: Party founder Robert Menzies when he outlined the core principles
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Speaker 3: that should always guide the Liberal Party.
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Speaker 2: The instinct to give them a chance in life, to
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Speaker 2: make them not leaners but lifters, is a noble instinct.
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Speaker 2: Leaners grow flabby, lifters grow muscles.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, lifters and leaners. We have too many leaners and
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Speaker 3: not enough lifters. More than half the country now draws
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Speaker 3: some sort of benefit from government. The Liberals have to
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Speaker 3: start to turn that around because, to paraphrase another great
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Speaker 3: Conservative leader in Margaret Thatcher. The trouble with Labour's socialist
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Speaker 3: left faction and their ILK is that eventually they will
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Speaker 3: run out of other people's money.
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Speaker 1: The ABC has been added again.
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Speaker 3: They're America's editor John Lyons, a serial media lefty who's
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Speaker 3: been bashing Israel and Donald Trump at taxpayer's expense for years. Well,
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Speaker 3: he decided to challenge the President over his business dealings
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Speaker 3: and Lions got exactly what he wanted.
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Speaker 9: The appropriate President Trump that a president in office should.
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Speaker 10: Be engaged in so much Pitt's activity, Well, I'm really not.
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Speaker 11: My kids are running the business and you know at
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Speaker 11: the activity. Where are you from, I'm from the.
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Speaker 1: Australian broad County.
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Speaker 11: Of Age and Paul corn and profile the Australias. You're
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Speaker 11: hurting Australia right in my opinion, you are hurting Australia
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Speaker 11: very much right now. But they want to get along
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Speaker 11: with me.
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Speaker 10: You know your your leader is coming over to see
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Speaker 10: me very so I'm going to tell him about you.
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Speaker 11: And you said a very bad talent.
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Speaker 1: Well go ahead from even better for Lions and the ABC.
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Speaker 1: The White House then lashed out.
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Speaker 3: On social media, calling Lions a rude foreign fake news loser,
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Speaker 3: which might all be true, but it gave Lions the
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Speaker 3: chance to play media hero.
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Speaker 12: The response I've had from media here has been extraordinarily supportive.
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Speaker 12: This is a time where the media is under siege
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Speaker 12: in America.
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Speaker 1: Of course they're backing him.
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Speaker 3: He's just part of their obsessive anti Trump crusade and
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Speaker 3: the media under siege.
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Speaker 1: The media is kidding, isn't he.
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Speaker 3: Well, because the public are calling out their lives. But
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Speaker 3: there's much more to all of this. First up, of course,
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Speaker 3: Trump's response was churlish and unreasonable. It was typical Trump's
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Speaker 3: self centered and arrogant. I mean, the idea that our
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Speaker 3: Prime minister's desperate bid to get some face to face
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Speaker 3: time with Trump should be influenced by the behavior of
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Speaker 3: an Australian journalist, even one paid for by taxpayers. Well,
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Speaker 3: it's just not the way diplomacy should work in Western
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Speaker 3: liberal democracies, and as the leader of the free world,
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Speaker 3: Trump should be able to take and deal with any
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Speaker 3: questions without resort to personal abuse.
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Speaker 1: But that's Trump.
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Speaker 3: He's unconventional and uncouth, and just as they have for
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Speaker 3: the past decade, too many people have been too fixated
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Speaker 3: with making that obvious point and wasting their time on
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Speaker 3: character assessments rather than examining what he's actually doing, what
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Speaker 3: his policies and actions mean for the US and the world.
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Speaker 3: And this is where the Lion's questioning is so illustrative.
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Speaker 3: He's entitled to ask any question he likes. But of
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Speaker 3: all the issues you could raise with Trump, this is
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Speaker 3: what this ABC reporter chooses. It underlines again how the
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Speaker 3: ABC is having a lend of taxpayers, taking more than
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Speaker 3: a billion dollars a year and using it to indulge
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Speaker 3: themselves rather than serve taxpayers. I mean, remember, way back
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Speaker 3: eight years ago when the ABC put together a three
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Speaker 3: part series running the Russia collusion conspiracy against Donald Trump.
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Speaker 3: It must have cost more than a million dollars just
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Speaker 3: to run what was already back then a discredited leftist
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Speaker 3: conspiracy theory about Trump being a puppet of Vladimir Putin.
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Speaker 13: Hello, and welcome to four Corners. Tonight we begin our
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Speaker 13: special three part investigation into the story of the century,
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Speaker 13: the election of US President Donald Trump and his ties
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Speaker 13: to Russia. The Kremlin's puppetmaster now has America dancing to
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Speaker 13: his discordant tune. He couldn't have planned it better.
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Speaker 3: Since then, multiple official investigations and inquiries have confirmed that
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Speaker 3: this whole conspiracy theory was not just all wrong, but
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Speaker 3: was actually largely cooked up by the Democrats. Yet the
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Speaker 3: ABC hasn't corrected or apologized for it. You can still
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Speaker 3: watch this junk on their website, and the reporter, Sarah Ferguson.
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Speaker 1: Hosts their main nightly current affairs show.
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Speaker 3: And now they have this America's editor in the US
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Speaker 3: doing another four corners piece, and what would he be
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Speaker 3: Examining The difficult but successful push to control America's borders,
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Speaker 3: which were out of control for so long, The rise
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Speaker 3: of radical leftist groups and their manifestation in political violence
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Speaker 3: such as the assassination attempt on Trump and the killing
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Speaker 3: of Charlie Kirk, the gag, crime and drugs, and social
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Speaker 3: dysfunction in America's big cities, and how to solve those problems.
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Speaker 3: The transformation of the US from energy importer to energy exporter.
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Speaker 3: Perhaps they might even examine the business dealings of Joe
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Speaker 3: and Hunter Biden and the rest of the Biden family.
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Speaker 1: Issues the ABC studiously.
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Speaker 3: Ignored while Biden was in power, and which they remain
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Speaker 3: incurious about now, even though in his last hours in power.
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Speaker 3: Biden offered extensive and preemptive pardons to all of his
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Speaker 3: family that they're spending your money letting lions indulge his
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Speaker 3: usual less leftist conspiracy tendencies.
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Speaker 1: Probing Trump's business dealings.
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Speaker 3: No doubt we'll learn a lot like Trump is rich
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Speaker 3: and he's getting richer because he's a deal maker, and
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Speaker 3: he's probably leveraging all of his contacts as president.
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Speaker 1: Hold the presses, dog bites, man, Now, it's all valid.
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Speaker 3: It's all a valid line of inquiry, of course, But
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Speaker 3: it's a question of priorities.
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Speaker 1: They're obsessed with.
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Speaker 3: Tearing down the man Trump rather than examining the real
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Speaker 3: issues that affect all of us. It's personal attacks on
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Speaker 3: right of center targets that preoccupy our abc rather than
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Speaker 3: the big issues that matter. Just this week, Four Corners
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Speaker 3: did a hit job on a Christian church, the Plymouth Brethren,
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Speaker 3: accusing them of being a cult and not supporting a
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Speaker 3: quality for women, and particular slamming them for.
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Speaker 1: Handing out how to vote cards for the Liberal Party.
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Speaker 3: I must have missed their Four Corners programs looking at
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Speaker 3: Islam's fundamentalism in this country and extremist hate preachers and
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Speaker 3: women forced to wear burkers. I also must have missed
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Speaker 3: their reports on the manipulation of our weather data, or
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Speaker 3: the destruction of our energy grid, or the shameless and
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Speaker 3: unscientific climate alarmism that, rather than.
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Speaker 14: Expose, the ABC helps to orchestrate. Maybe they could examine
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Speaker 14: whether the tills are actually a political party controlled by
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Speaker 14: a millionaire rather than a collection of like minded independents.
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Speaker 14: No way, the ABC and political activists like John Lyons
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Speaker 14: have a worldview like undergraduate protesters, and they indulge it
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Speaker 14: at our expense. They're having a lend of us because
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Speaker 14: no matter that taxpayers fund them to the tune of
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Speaker 14: one point two billion dollars a year. They don't behave
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Speaker 14: like it's our ABC or your ABC. No, they reckon
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Speaker 14: it's their ABC.
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Speaker 3: I'm going to catch up live with Pauline Hanson in
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Speaker 3: just a moment, but first let's go to the news
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Speaker 3: from the US and Tyler Robinson, the man accused of
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Speaker 3: assassinating Charlie Kirk, has faced court via video link for
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Speaker 3: the first time today. Here's the latest from sky News UK.
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Speaker 1: Could you state your name, Tyler James Robinson?
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Speaker 12: Dressed in a suicide prevention vest, he appeared via video
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Speaker 12: link from the Utah County Jail to face seven charges,
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Speaker 12: including aggravated murder.
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Speaker 4: Taylor James Robinson intentionally or knownly caused the death of
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Speaker 4: Charlie Kirk.
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Speaker 12: The prosecution pursuing a death sentence. According to prosecutors, Hit
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Speaker 12: text at a room met his partner, drop what you
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Speaker 12: were doing? Look on under my keyboard where the room
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Speaker 12: met a le Did we find a note reading I
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Speaker 12: had the opportunity to take out to Charlie Kirk, and
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Speaker 12: I'm going to take it. When asked why, he said
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Speaker 12: to have replied, why did I do it? I had
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Speaker 12: enough of his hatred. Some hit can't be negotiate.
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Speaker 3: At eight, let's bring in One Nation leader Pauline Hanson,
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Speaker 3: he joins me from Queensland. Good to talk to you again, Pauline.
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Speaker 3: This has just been such a shocking event.
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Speaker 1: It's great that they've got a suspect and the wills
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Speaker 1: of justice are in motion.
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Speaker 3: The fact that a death penalty is going to be
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Speaker 3: pursued is going to reignite debate, not just in the US.
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Speaker 1: But around the world.
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Speaker 3: Here, what's your view on the death penalty being pursued here?
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Speaker 15: I'm all for it. I don't have a problem with
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Speaker 15: it at all. I see that, you know, charges for
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Speaker 15: murderings in this country as well, it's just going down.
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Speaker 15: There's no real penalties for the crimes to look committed.
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Speaker 15: And for those tenous crimes like the Daniel Morcambe murder
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Speaker 15: or Shannie Kinney Kenny. You know, these are people I
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Speaker 15: believe you forfeit your lives. We don't have a safest anymore.
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Speaker 15: How many people living in fear. And I think that
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Speaker 15: if there was the death penalty for some crimes that
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Speaker 15: are proven that there's no doubt and it was premeditated murder,
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Speaker 15: that they've gone out there to take these people's lives,
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Speaker 15: why should the taxpayer be funding these people in prisons
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Speaker 15: for over one hundred and fifty thousand dollars a year.
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Speaker 15: Why are we doing that? You know, I want to
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Speaker 15: save society. And if you put tough sentences in say well, mate,
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Speaker 15: if you want to go out and take life for someone,
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Speaker 15: well then be prepared to lose your own. I'm sure
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Speaker 15: a lot of them wouldn't go out there and commit
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Speaker 15: these murders. And don't forget the families, the loved ones.
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Speaker 15: They've lost their loved one for life. I just don't
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Speaker 15: believe they have a right to live.
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Speaker 14: You mentioned the Chaun Kingiy murder that was for people
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Speaker 14: outside of Queensland.
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Speaker 1: Another particularly horrendous.
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Speaker 14: Child abduction, rape and murder where they got the couple
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Speaker 14: that were responsible for that.
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Speaker 1: They both since died in prison, I think. But do
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Speaker 1: you think that.
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Speaker 3: There's there is a realistic market, if you like, for
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Speaker 3: one of a better word, for a discussion of the
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Speaker 3: death penalty in this country that's been and gone, hasn't it.
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Speaker 15: I think it has, Chris, and I think we're past
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Speaker 15: it because we're a signa tree to the un which
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Speaker 15: won't allow for this to happen. So you're going to
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Speaker 15: have all these people up and arms screaming about it.
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Speaker 15: But I tell you what, Chris. When I was in prison,
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Speaker 15: I was in there with Fate Cram. She was the
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Speaker 15: one who actually was responsible for the murder of Shanny Kinney.
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Speaker 1: And I said.
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Speaker 15: Opposite her, and I just said to her, I said,
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Speaker 15: if you were the one anyone laid a hand on
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Speaker 15: my daughter as you have done, I said, I'd be
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Speaker 15: the one that actually would pull the trigger.
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Speaker 1: You spoke directly to the killer.
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Speaker 14: You spoke directly to the killer, and you told her
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Speaker 14: that she should die.
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Speaker 1: Yep. I was in Christmas with her, you know, with
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Speaker 1: this heart.
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Speaker 15: She just looked at me. She couldn't say anything.
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Speaker 1: I got on.
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Speaker 15: I got on all right, you know, with them, and
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Speaker 15: I had to. I was in those circumstances. I couldn't
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Speaker 15: do anything think about it, and they threw him in
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Speaker 15: with these murderers and you know, child abuses and different ones.
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Speaker 15: But I made my point very clear to thank you
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Speaker 15: how I felt about these things.
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Speaker 1: I didn't.
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Speaker 15: I didn't back away from it.
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Speaker 14: Chris extraordinary, what an extraordinary experience, what a henus crime,
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Speaker 14: and to come front face to face with the with
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Speaker 14: the woman involved, just extraordinary. I want to go on
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Speaker 14: to the fallout from Charlie Kirk and show you what
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Speaker 14: the Independent Senator Fatima Payment has said about it online.
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Speaker 1: Here we go. So what do I think about.
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Speaker 16: Charlie Kirk and obviously his assassination. I think he was
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Speaker 16: a pretty awful person and he doesn't deserve all the
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Speaker 16: recognition he's getting. You know, it would have been best
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Speaker 16: to not have him assassinated and for him to remain
21:48
Speaker 16: a footnote in the Trumpian era of the United States. Yeah,
21:53
Speaker 16: Charlie Kirk got shot and he's rap. Whatever you want
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Speaker 16: ira Pe to stand for. Some people will say it's
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Speaker 16: not peace. So fill in the blanks. People fill in
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Speaker 16: the blanks.
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Speaker 3: Look, there are some people on the online saying Rip
22:12
Speaker 3: stands for something else, horrendous and insulting.
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Speaker 1: I just find that.
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Speaker 14: The only reasons she regrets the political assassination of Charlie
22:21
Speaker 14: Kirk is because it's drawn attention to his movement and
22:25
Speaker 14: his arguments. What sort of behavior is that from a
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Speaker 14: senator in this country?
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Speaker 1: To me?
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Speaker 15: Does a vile comments that she made? And when I
22:37
Speaker 15: questioned her on the Flora Parliament about her citizenship, she
22:41
Speaker 15: was screaming at me. She was calling me a racist
22:43
Speaker 15: in all these names, just because I questioned her ability
22:47
Speaker 15: or not her ability that she had the right to
22:50
Speaker 15: be in Parliament due to the Section forty four of
22:53
Speaker 15: the Strain Constitution and the vial that came out of
22:56
Speaker 15: her mouth then calling me names. You know, I'm going
23:00
Speaker 15: to do everything that I can. I want to see
23:01
Speaker 15: the back end of her. She's up a reelection at
23:04
Speaker 15: the next federal election and I'm going to do everything
23:07
Speaker 15: I possibly can to actually win that seat. So she
23:10
Speaker 15: doesn't get back into Parliament. I want to see these
23:13
Speaker 15: people go on. You know, I've been criticized for years,
23:15
Speaker 15: Chris and I've been called all different names. I should
23:17
Speaker 15: be witch, bird at the stake, racist, santaphobic, all these
23:21
Speaker 15: things that I've been called. But you know, just because
23:24
Speaker 15: I have a difference of opinion and I say my
23:26
Speaker 15: facts the same as Charlie Kirk. You know, he's a
23:30
Speaker 15: person that wasn't bild people. He treated them with respect.
23:34
Speaker 15: If he didn't agree with them, he told them, but
23:36
Speaker 15: he asked them their opinions and why they thought that way.
23:39
Speaker 15: You know, this is not a person to be ridiculed
23:42
Speaker 15: the way that he is. His person to be respected
23:44
Speaker 15: for his freedom of speech and allowing other people have
23:47
Speaker 15: their say as well. I'm you know, I'm so disappointed
23:50
Speaker 15: with these people and as a member of Parliament, I
23:53
Speaker 15: hope she's gone.
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Speaker 14: Thanks for joining us, Pauline. I appreciate that Pauline hands
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Speaker 14: in their lives from Scenic Rim and Queensland.
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Speaker 3: Now, as I mentioned at the top of the program,
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Speaker 3: Anthony Albaneze has been humiliated for the second time in
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Speaker 3: as many weeks, first in Vanuatu, where he failed to
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Speaker 3: seal the deal there on a security agreement, and now
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Speaker 3: in Papua New Guinea where the signing of a defense
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Speaker 3: treaty has been delayed, A lot can change in twenty
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Speaker 3: four hours. The PM was all smiles yesterday saying everything
24:18
Speaker 3: was going to come together.
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Speaker 1: Here he was with Kieran Gilbert.
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Speaker 8: The cabinet hasn't authorized it yet Marape's cabinet.
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Speaker 1: Should we be concerned by that?
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Speaker 17: Or they're all off celebrating. That's the thing. They all
24:33
Speaker 17: went to their respective homelands and so they didn't have
24:40
Speaker 17: korum at the cabinet meeting. And that's understandable. This is
24:46
Speaker 17: about celebrating fifty you know you're.
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Speaker 12: Worried about it.
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Speaker 2: The treaty's on the treaty or crack on, not at all.
24:54
Speaker 14: Yeah, they're all off celebrating, but they didn't come back
24:56
Speaker 14: and sign up today. Let's go to Michael Schudbridge from
24:59
Speaker 14: Strategy JIK Analysis Australia joins us from Canberra.
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Speaker 1: How much of a setback is this, Michael?
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Speaker 3: Both Anthony Alberanzi and the PNG Prime Minister Marape say
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Speaker 3: it will be signed in a matter of days or
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Speaker 3: weeks once their P ANDNG cabinet has ratified it.
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Speaker 18: Well, Chris, you mentioned the Prime minister failing to get
25:20
Speaker 18: that other big bilateral deal with van Huatu signed just
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Speaker 18: a week ago, and now we've got this with p ANDNG.
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Speaker 18: It reminds me of that saying. For a prime minister
25:31
Speaker 18: to turn up in one country and failed to get
25:33
Speaker 18: a big deal done is understandable. For him to turn
25:37
Speaker 18: up in two countries and failed to get deals done
25:41
Speaker 18: smacks of carelessness. So this one who advised him to
25:47
Speaker 18: sign a big new defense treaty with Papua New Guinea
25:51
Speaker 18: on the fiftieth anniversary of Papua New Guinea declaring independence
25:55
Speaker 18: from Australia. If ever there was a time for sovereignty
25:59
Speaker 18: cent activities to be peaking in p and G, it's
26:03
Speaker 18: right when they're looking back fifty years ago to when
26:06
Speaker 18: we ran the place.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's absolutely a failure. That's a very good point
26:11
Speaker 3: on the timing. It's absolutely a failure of diplomacy. To
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Speaker 3: set up for a signing like this and then for
26:16
Speaker 3: it to fail is dismal. I only imagine what Mary
26:20
Speaker 3: hell Labor would make in opposition if this was a
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Speaker 3: coalition government. To what extent do you believe the technacles
26:26
Speaker 3: of China could be trying to undermine.
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Speaker 1: This deal, as we believe they were in Vanuatu.
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Speaker 18: Well, now that the Prime Minister has opened the door
26:37
Speaker 18: to this whole thing unraveling, the prospects of China playing
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Speaker 18: a big hand are very real. We heard from P
26:45
Speaker 18: and g's Prime Minister Marape don't worry, everything's on track.
26:49
Speaker 18: But actually I'm sending my defense minister right now to
26:52
Speaker 18: go to China to explain this deal. And then he
26:56
Speaker 18: said everyone should respect China and he's got a one
26:59
Speaker 18: China policy. The important to him. So China now has
27:03
Speaker 18: leverridge over this treaty.
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Speaker 1: Just what we're on China.
27:07
Speaker 3: What do you make of the Victorian premier just into
27:09
Speaker 3: Alan's trip to China and is she being used for
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Speaker 3: Chinese propaganda purposes or will Victoria benefit greatly out of this?
27:19
Speaker 18: Look Jacindra Allen is going down the same cul de
27:23
Speaker 18: sac on China that Dan Andrews did. She seems to
27:26
Speaker 18: have learnt nothing from that experience. She again is saying,
27:30
Speaker 18: as a state leader, I've only got to worry about
27:33
Speaker 18: jobs and I love China.
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Speaker 1: She's out of.
27:37
Speaker 18: Step with the bigger security picture on China and she
27:42
Speaker 18: doesn't seem to care. That's all bad news for cohesive
27:45
Speaker 18: policy in Australia on China.
27:48
Speaker 1: David, thanks for joining us, David.
27:51
Speaker 3: Michael Shutbridge, sorry, I always make that mistake with your brother,
27:54
Speaker 3: of course the world.
27:55
Speaker 1: I'll have to get your brother on soon.
27:57
Speaker 3: But that's Michael Shute street Bridge from Strategic Analysis Australia.
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Speaker 3: His brother is David Schubridge, the Green's Senator for.
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Speaker 1: New South Wales. We're going to take a break. On
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Speaker 1: the other side of that.
28:07
Speaker 3: I'm going to catch up with an economics professor to
28:10
Speaker 3: get her view on the net zero scare.
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Speaker 1: Gigi Foster joins me now.
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Speaker 3: In her keynote speech today, Susan Lee focused on government spending,
28:21
Speaker 3: on debt and reducing reliance on the government. Here's a
28:25
Speaker 3: little of the opposition leader's speech.
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Speaker 8: Unfortunately, in the past few years the pendulum has swung
28:32
Speaker 8: too far towards dependency. It's become almost taboo in politics
28:38
Speaker 8: to suggest that not everyone is entitled to a government benefit.
28:43
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's all true enough, but easier said than done.
28:45
Speaker 3: I asked the University of New South Wales economics professor
28:48
Speaker 3: Gigi Foster what she made of Lee's speech.
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Speaker 19: I mean, I think she's definitely right. I mean, she
28:54
Speaker 19: could go a lot further. But this is also a
28:57
Speaker 19: bit of too a little too late, in the sense
28:59
Speaker 19: that we now in twenty twenty five face such a
29:03
Speaker 19: monstrosity of sclerotic bureaucracy unresponsive to the people's needs, that
29:09
Speaker 19: it's really going to take a lot to untangle that.
29:12
Speaker 19: In fact, I wrote something I think three years ago
29:14
Speaker 19: entitled the New Gordian Knots, because that's what it feels like.
29:17
Speaker 19: It feels like it's a Gordian knot of intertwined, interdependent
29:22
Speaker 19: government control, regulation, and, as she correctly notes, an attitude
29:28
Speaker 19: by the population that promotes that kind of dependency on government.
29:31
Speaker 19: And this is one of the reasons why I've been
29:33
Speaker 19: doing a lot of what I've been doing the last
29:35
Speaker 19: few years, including founding Australians for Science and Freedom, having
29:38
Speaker 19: a lot of community engagement. I'm trying to get people
29:40
Speaker 19: to recognize they need to be the stewards of their
29:43
Speaker 19: way of life and we need to be the overseers
29:45
Speaker 19: on those in power.
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Speaker 1: Yees spot on. Look, this is cool Liberal Party philosophy.
29:50
Speaker 1: Though there's no detail in this from Susan Lee.
29:53
Speaker 3: But the Liberal Party is supposed to be about small
29:56
Speaker 3: government and self reliance and choice. Now drifted away from
30:00
Speaker 3: that I over recent years, I suppose. But she's just really
30:03
Speaker 3: outlined what should be the core tenant of liberal policy.
30:07
Speaker 1: Yet there's no detail. We hardly ever hear.
30:09
Speaker 3: From the Shadow treasure at Ted O'Brien, and there was
30:12
Speaker 3: no plans.
30:14
Speaker 1: There was no outline in the speech today about where
30:16
Speaker 1: they would cut spending.
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Speaker 19: Well, that's very true, but you have to understand the
30:20
Speaker 19: politics here, right. The reason for that lack of detail
30:23
Speaker 19: is because if she were to propose anything specific, a
30:26
Speaker 19: huge number of vested interests would cry foul. So this
30:30
Speaker 19: is the problem with the Gordian not issue that we face.
30:33
Speaker 19: It's just there are too many people with their snouts
30:35
Speaker 19: in the trough and so if you propose anything specific,
30:39
Speaker 19: it looks like you're taking things away, and people don't
30:42
Speaker 19: want to have their current situation disturbed, particularly those who
30:46
Speaker 19: are benefiting from the government person on the handouts. So
30:49
Speaker 19: this is a real problem, and you see in the
30:50
Speaker 19: United States the type of radicalism in a sense that
30:53
Speaker 19: is needed to try to break through some of the
30:56
Speaker 19: strangulation that has developed over the last twenty or thirty years.
30:58
Speaker 19: And even there, I think a lot of the attempts
31:01
Speaker 19: that are being made are not going to go as
31:03
Speaker 19: far as the people would like them to go, or
31:05
Speaker 19: as it would be good for the people, because there's
31:07
Speaker 19: just so much, so much dependency, and so much intertwining
31:12
Speaker 19: of vacid interest with politics.
31:15
Speaker 3: One of the areas where government has expanded exponentially is
31:18
Speaker 3: in climate and energy policy. Lots of funds, lots of
31:22
Speaker 3: specific grants, lots of subsidies, lots of tax breaks, and
31:26
Speaker 3: the government today announced another billion dollar fund for so
31:30
Speaker 3: called low carbon fuels. The Treasurer was out this announcement.
31:34
Speaker 3: Here's what he had to say.
31:35
Speaker 4: The worst possible outcome from an economic point of view
31:38
Speaker 4: and an environmental point of view, would be if we
31:41
Speaker 4: walked away from net zero, as our political opponents want
31:44
Speaker 4: us to do.
31:46
Speaker 1: Now.
31:46
Speaker 4: The Liberal Party is run now by this weird collection
31:50
Speaker 4: of cookers and crackpots. And nowhere is that more obvious
31:53
Speaker 4: than when it comes to net zero.
31:57
Speaker 1: Isn't it.
31:58
Speaker 14: The pursuit of net zero flies in the face of
32:01
Speaker 14: science and economics.
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Speaker 19: Yes, I mean this is classic. We have seen this
32:06
Speaker 19: throughout the COVID period as well the projection is jaw dropping.
32:10
Speaker 19: Who are the crackpots the people who are saying we
32:13
Speaker 19: must pursue net zero at all costs. That is a fanatical,
32:16
Speaker 19: dogmatic statement. That is not an economic statement, mister Chalmers.
32:20
Speaker 19: And unfortunately, I see the same pattern here as I
32:24
Speaker 19: saw during the COVID era, which is that there's an
32:26
Speaker 19: output from a statistical model in somebody's computer somewhere that
32:31
Speaker 19: hasn't been proven, hasn't been tested in reality. And by
32:34
Speaker 19: the way, these climate catastrophists predictions from twenty thirty forty
32:38
Speaker 19: years ago have not come to fruition. So I'm not
32:41
Speaker 19: sure why we would now believe these predictions. And then,
32:43
Speaker 19: based on that simple so called science, which it is
32:47
Speaker 19: not but just a model, all sorts of sacrifices are proposed,
32:51
Speaker 19: so supposedly in order to get us into avoiding horrible damage,
32:56
Speaker 19: but there's no cost benefit analysis, and there's certainly no
33:00
Speaker 19: even recognition of the costs of those sacrifices. And so
33:04
Speaker 19: I just find this completely on economic. It's the opposite
33:06
Speaker 19: of what Jim Chalmers is saying. It's anti scientific, and honestly,
33:11
Speaker 19: if the government really believed its projections, it wouldn't be
33:14
Speaker 19: investing in this net zero stuff with the subsidies for companies,
33:17
Speaker 19: it would be trying to protect the people of Australia
33:20
Speaker 19: from these rising sea levels, especially if he's doing other
33:23
Speaker 19: kinds of investment, and we never hear anything about that.
33:25
Speaker 19: So that tells me either they don't believe their own
33:27
Speaker 19: nonsense or they're just too lazy to try to work
33:31
Speaker 19: around all the vested interests who are benefiting from these subsidies.
33:34
Speaker 3: Just briefly, then the finish, give me your logical rise over.
33:37
Speaker 3: The phrase that the cost of inaction will always be
33:41
Speaker 3: higher than the cost of any action unbelievable.
33:45
Speaker 19: When has that ever been true? You always, in economics,
33:48
Speaker 19: must compare the cost of whatever option you're considering, including
33:52
Speaker 19: doing nothing, to the benefit that you're getting, and you
33:55
Speaker 19: only keep on the table those alternatives including doing nothing,
33:58
Speaker 19: that actually give you a positive benefit. And I've seen
34:01
Speaker 19: no estimates of a positive net benefit from this net
34:04
Speaker 19: zero madness.
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Speaker 3: Thanks for joining us again, Jiji, appreciate it, my pleasure.
34:10
Speaker 3: She always astounds me a university economist who makes sense.
34:14
Speaker 3: Now coming up, I'm also getting going to get an
34:16
Speaker 3: expert take on the false equivalence of that report into
34:21
Speaker 3: Islamophobia in Australia. Now, I want to address this horrible
34:28
Speaker 3: and jaundice report from the United Nations saying that Israel
34:32
Speaker 3: is committing genocide in Gaza. The absurdity of this finding,
34:37
Speaker 3: the way they are so desperate to demonize Israel is
34:40
Speaker 3: just so wrong and of course dangerous. No army in
34:45
Speaker 3: the history of armed conflict has done more to minimize
34:49
Speaker 3: civilian casualties than the Israeli defense force, making phone calls,
34:54
Speaker 3: sending text messages, dropping leaflets, providing safe passage, sending in aid,
35:00
Speaker 3: or to keep Ghars and civilians away from the attacks
35:03
Speaker 3: on Hummas. And no terrorist or military force has ever
35:08
Speaker 3: used civilians more deliberately as human shields than Hummas has.
35:14
Speaker 3: They've built five hundred kilometers of tunnels under Gaza's civilian areas,
35:19
Speaker 3: where they keep hostages, weapons, and move terrorists around to
35:23
Speaker 3: attack the IDEF. They base themselves in and under schools
35:28
Speaker 3: and hospitals and places of worship. They dress as civilians,
35:33
Speaker 3: as journalists, as AID workers. They threatened to kill Garzans
35:37
Speaker 3: who try to flee to safe zones. They've sabotaged AID efforts,
35:42
Speaker 3: They've commandeered and stolen AID Yet this UN report says
35:47
Speaker 3: that Israel's efforts are intended to kill as many Palestinians
35:53
Speaker 3: as possible. Now, look, even if you stridently are opposed
35:58
Speaker 3: to Israel, you know that this is a blatant lie
36:02
Speaker 3: because Israel's military capability is so strong and sophisticated, and
36:08
Speaker 3: Gaza is so small that if Israel had wanted to
36:12
Speaker 3: wipe out Gaza and everyone in it, this would have
36:14
Speaker 3: happened within a few days. The claim is a nonsense,
36:17
Speaker 3: and it flies in the face of everything we know.
36:21
Speaker 3: It is, in effect just the United Nations acting as
36:24
Speaker 3: a mouthpiece for HMAS propaganda. The report, by the way,
36:29
Speaker 3: was authorized by the United Nations Human Rights Council. And
36:34
Speaker 3: what countries are on that body, Well, there are lots,
36:37
Speaker 3: but let me name just a few.
36:39
Speaker 1: There are the.
36:40
Speaker 3: Arab League nations of Algeria and Kuwait. There's the communist
36:46
Speaker 3: nations of Cuba and China. Yeah, China.
36:51
Speaker 1: And there's the terrorist funding Gulf state of Qatar. Yeah.
36:56
Speaker 3: These are the countries lecturing Israel on human rights. If
37:02
Speaker 3: it weren't so tragic, it'd be hilarious. Okay, let's bring
37:09
Speaker 3: in the Wednesday Rangel and joining me on the desk
37:11
Speaker 3: is James Bolt, Sky News contributor filling in for Denika
37:15
Speaker 3: de Georgio.
37:16
Speaker 1: Good to have you on board, James. I'll try my best.
37:18
Speaker 3: And in Melbourne we've got to broadcast a columnists man
37:22
Speaker 3: about Melbourne. Justin Smith, Good to have both of you.
37:25
Speaker 3: What do you make of that UN report? Justin tell
37:27
Speaker 3: us how this is genocide? It must be the most
37:30
Speaker 3: incompetent genocide in human history.
37:35
Speaker 1: Well I find yeah, I'm like you.
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Speaker 14: I can't find much of a laugh in it, mate
37:41
Speaker 14: to be honest, But I mean you talked about the
37:44
Speaker 14: might of the Israeli defense force. If they were so
37:48
Speaker 14: incredibly good at what they were doing, why have so
37:52
Speaker 14: many people been killed that shouldn't have been killed. I mean,
37:57
Speaker 14: whatever side you want to take on this, and if
38:00
Speaker 14: you don't want to take any side at all, what
38:02
Speaker 14: is happening in Gaza at the moment is just absolutely heartbreaking,
38:06
Speaker 14: is it not.
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Speaker 1: I'm not going to be sticking up for the UN.
38:08
Speaker 1: They can make their own.
38:09
Speaker 14: Decisions, but surely we've got to agree that what's happening
38:12
Speaker 14: in Gaza is heartbreaking and needs to stop.
38:15
Speaker 1: It's terrible. It's absolutely terrible.
38:17
Speaker 3: It's gone on for almost two years now, and it's
38:19
Speaker 3: all at the hands of hummus who've perpetrated it.
38:21
Speaker 1: But two years of intense war.
38:23
Speaker 14: Warfare in a heavily populated small area of Gaza with
38:27
Speaker 14: two million people, the idea that Israel is trying to
38:31
Speaker 14: kill as many Palestinians as it can is patently absurd.
38:35
Speaker 20: Jans it is, and it's just this concocted, long standing
38:38
Speaker 20: effort from organizations like the UN so really paint Israel
38:41
Speaker 20: as the demon and as the aggressor in the war.
38:44
Speaker 20: If the report really wanted to end the Gaza warts tomorrow,
38:47
Speaker 20: it should do what Israel is doing and say, hey,
38:49
Speaker 20: this is all going to go away if the hostagees
38:51
Speaker 20: are released. It's such a it's so heartbreaking what is
38:54
Speaker 20: happening in Gaza. It's so tough to watch the footage
38:57
Speaker 20: that's coming out of there. But apparently it's not that
38:59
Speaker 20: tight for the leadership of a mass because they still
39:02
Speaker 20: hold on to these hostages.
39:04
Speaker 1: Exactly exactly.
39:05
Speaker 3: Let's go to the US now and talk about the
39:08
Speaker 3: way the ABC journalist John Lyons has confronted Donald Trump.
39:13
Speaker 1: Let's replay that exchange.
39:16
Speaker 9: This is an appropriate President Trump, that a president in
39:19
Speaker 9: offers should.
39:20
Speaker 1: Be engaged in so much bits of activity.
39:23
Speaker 16: Well, I'm really not.
39:23
Speaker 11: My kids are running the business and you know at
39:26
Speaker 11: the activity. Where are you from.
39:28
Speaker 1: I'm from the Australian broad couthy.
39:30
Speaker 11: With rage and full corn and prof Australias. You're hurting
39:32
Speaker 11: Australia right in my opinion, you are hurting Australia very
39:36
Speaker 11: much right now that they want to get along with me.
39:39
Speaker 10: You know your your leader is coming over to see
39:42
Speaker 10: me very I'm going to tell them about you.
39:44
Speaker 11: You said a very bad talent.
39:46
Speaker 3: Well go ahead, Trump, Yeah, now justin of course a
39:49
Speaker 3: Trumpian response, a silly response, and and of course Lyons
39:54
Speaker 3: is entitled to ask.
39:55
Speaker 1: Any question he'd like. But really, is.
39:58
Speaker 14: That the biggest issue from the ab you see the
40:00
Speaker 14: four corners to look at whether Trump's making money in business?
40:03
Speaker 1: That's just pathetic.
40:05
Speaker 14: Well yeah, but I mean have a look at the
40:08
Speaker 14: Orange Prince's reaction there. Maybe and look, I don't have
40:12
Speaker 14: no idea what story John Lyons is working on, but
40:15
Speaker 14: maybe just maybe judging by that reaction, he he might
40:19
Speaker 14: have touched a nerve there. Maybe he's onto something. He
40:21
Speaker 14: should be able to ask these questions and it is
40:23
Speaker 14: outrageous for someone, any world leader, to be going after
40:28
Speaker 14: a journalist like that for asking questions. I would say
40:31
Speaker 14: the reaction show. But look, don't worry. I mean anyone
40:34
Speaker 14: who is a Trump supporter, don't worry. There are plenty
40:37
Speaker 14: of other journalists sick a fantic, bum licking journalists that
40:40
Speaker 14: will be around him to ask him some nice, easy questions,
40:44
Speaker 14: you know, don't restraint.
40:50
Speaker 3: I just think it's pathetic. I mean Trump's response, of course,
40:53
Speaker 3: is silly and abuse. I mean, any journalists, it makes
40:56
Speaker 3: John Lyon's day.
40:57
Speaker 1: That's the best thing that's ever happened to him. Have
40:59
Speaker 1: Trump him. But my point is about we're paying for this.
41:02
Speaker 1: Taxpayers are paying for this.
41:04
Speaker 3: You don't think we'd want to be examining what Trump
41:06
Speaker 3: is doing to try and sort of the war in
41:08
Speaker 3: Ukraine or the Middle East, or what's happened with borders
41:12
Speaker 3: and drugs in the US. No, it's it's just a
41:14
Speaker 3: character job on Trump.
41:16
Speaker 13: Yeah.
41:16
Speaker 20: One thing I want to say to start off with
41:18
Speaker 20: is that Donald Trump has already forgotten this entire state.
41:22
Speaker 20: The other thing is like, I'm repeating what you said
41:25
Speaker 20: in your editorial because you're now at which is this
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Speaker 20: man is paid by US Australian taxpayers to inform Australians
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Speaker 20: and of all the issues in the world, not.
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Speaker 14: Just and Trump is paid by American taxpayers and he
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Speaker 14: should answer question.
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Speaker 20: So I'm like with this, I mean, it's not even
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Speaker 20: something to do with the with Australia. I mean, Australia
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Speaker 20: has its own concerns. When are we meeting Donald Trump?
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Speaker 20: When how Good's orchest situation? If that is the case, But.
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Speaker 14: Who do you put in charge of who's the letter
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Speaker 14: ask what question? Who's going to be what's due respect
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Speaker 14: to you, mate, but who's going to who's going to
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Speaker 14: be the arbiter of I know you're not allowed to
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Speaker 14: ask that question because it falls outside You really want
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Speaker 14: the media to be able to work like that where
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Speaker 14: someone will come into Chris, Chris, we've had a look
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Speaker 14: at your run down, this, this and this.
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Speaker 1: You're not listening, justin you're not listening.
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Speaker 3: Nobody's nobody is questioning John Wrights, John Lyon's right to
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Speaker 3: ask any question he likes. What we're questioning is what
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Speaker 3: it shows us about the priorities of the A B C.
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Speaker 3: Our tax dollars are paying for this, and it's just
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Speaker 3: a little personal, sort of lefty hit job on Trump
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Speaker 3: when there are so many serious issues that the ABC
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Speaker 3: should be looking at it. If you're going to protect Trump,
42:40
Speaker 3: I mean costing Trump. You're asking, you're talking somebody likes
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Speaker 3: Trump about how his business, how his business.
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Speaker 14: Relations work with work in with his job. Now, I
42:52
Speaker 14: think that's an incredibly fair question. We don't know what
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Speaker 14: his story. John Lyons is working on a bottle behind it?
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Speaker 1: Why was he not.
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Speaker 14: Able to ask that? Asked you and you that are
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Speaker 14: defending Trump, I'm not defending Trump. Wasn't he Wasn't he
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Speaker 14: got your Prime minister on you exactly, which is why, Justin,
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Speaker 14: I don't remember you suggesting the ABC should be probing
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Speaker 14: Joe Biden's finances.
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Speaker 1: This is the killer, isn't it. Isn't it? James? There was?
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Speaker 1: Don't you tell me what I think?
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Speaker 12: Mate?
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Speaker 1: Do you not tell me what I thin?
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Speaker 14: I would have no problem with them asking Joe Biden,
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Speaker 14: no problem, Justin.
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Speaker 3: We would like James to get a few words in.
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Speaker 3: There's a contrast, that's sorry, there's a hell of a
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Speaker 3: contrast there with the lack of curiosity about the Biden family,
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Speaker 3: isn't there?
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Speaker 18: Yeah?
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Speaker 20: Completely, and it's just this like, I'm not saying that
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Speaker 20: he can't ask questions, but he needs to apply to
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Speaker 20: the president to ask the questions. And look, John Lyons
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Speaker 20: has more experience in the game than I do. You, gentlemen,
43:51
Speaker 20: have more experience in the game than I do. I
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Speaker 20: kind of feel if that's the first question is straight
43:56
Speaker 20: to the juggular that you know, you should be a
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Speaker 20: bit more courteous. Be a warm up question before you
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Speaker 20: get into that. But let's just advice here and there.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, I just think that John Lyons is having a
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Speaker 3: lot of fun indulging his own political activism at taxpayers expense.
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Speaker 3: And I think the ABC's got some bigger fish to fry.
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Speaker 3: But we will see. We're going to take a break.
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Speaker 1: And come back with the angle after this short break.
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Speaker 1: Back to the panel in just a moment.
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Speaker 3: But we've been able to catch up with Greg Craven,
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Speaker 3: the former vice chancellor of the Australian Catholic University.
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Speaker 1: He joins us joins us live from Sydney. Good to
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Speaker 1: talk to you, Greg, goes really keen.
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Speaker 3: To catch up with you after your column in The
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Speaker 3: Australian Today where you cast an eye of scrutiny over
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Speaker 3: that report released last week into Islamophobia in Australia and
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Speaker 3: the false equivalence here. When we've seen so much strife
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Speaker 3: when it comes to Andy Semitism, both around the world
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Speaker 3: and in Australia, the government felt the need.
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Speaker 1: To produce this report. You've had a good look at it.
44:56
Speaker 1: What do you make of it? Look, it's not really
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Speaker 1: a report.
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Speaker 9: I mean there's only about twenty pages of actual discussion
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Speaker 9: in it. Then there are a lot of photographs and
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Speaker 9: blank pages and the odd recommendation. The reality is that
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Speaker 9: it reflects the whole debate around Islamophobia. It's simply there
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Speaker 9: to try and counter the real antisemitism that we're facing
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Speaker 9: now in Australia.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, it seems the case, as you point out as
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Speaker 3: well in your column, that every time the government mentions antisemitism,
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Speaker 3: they seem to feel the need to tack on Islamophobia
45:30
Speaker 3: as well. The two, of course, are both appalling, and
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Speaker 3: we should condemn either of those forms of prejudice should
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Speaker 3: they arise anywhere. But one is a palpable problem in
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Speaker 3: our community. The other, thankfully is not.
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Speaker 1: Well.
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Speaker 9: We've had two synagogue fires, we've had one bombing, of
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Speaker 9: a childcare center. There's been nothing like that, thank God,
45:54
Speaker 9: with our Muslim community. But the fact is with antisemitism,
45:58
Speaker 9: we're in the middle of a pogrim and somebody will
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Speaker 9: die as a result of this.
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Speaker 1: They will be Jewish Australians.
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Speaker 9: I don't know how many, but you look at the
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Speaker 9: course of the thing, that's where it's going.
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Speaker 14: Sobering the thoughts, Greg, thanks so much for joining us.
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Speaker 14: Good Craven there the former vice chancellor of the Australian
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Speaker 14: Catholic University. Let's get back to James Bolton, Justin Smith. Now,
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Speaker 14: just a couple of issues I want to get your
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Speaker 14: thoughts on. First up, but the footy stadium in Hobart.
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Speaker 1: James, the Goblin's going to plow ahead no matter what.
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Speaker 1: What do you reckon?
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Speaker 20: I just think in an election campaign both caparties come
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Speaker 20: out of its sort of like they've just woken up
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Speaker 20: in a blackout night on the town, like, oh I
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Speaker 20: promised what, I agree to build what? And that's where
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Speaker 20: Tasmania kind of finds itself. The stadium is a bad idea.
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Speaker 20: It's never going to work. I have to announce some
46:43
Speaker 20: sort of conflict of interest. I'm a Richmond, Tiger's fan.
46:46
Speaker 20: Tasmania's inclusion will impact our rebuild and still out of
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Speaker 20: our list, but Land, thank you. Well, finally some common ground.
46:54
Speaker 20: We'll we'll get a question to try.
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Speaker 14: Of course you're both Tiger's supporters, which pleases me, know
46:59
Speaker 14: end because you didn't make the finals. The thing is,
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Speaker 14: the thing is I think justin this is going to
47:04
Speaker 14: cost oh you've got made.
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Speaker 1: This is going to cost a bow. Yeah, but these
47:08
Speaker 1: things always work out.
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Speaker 3: You look at the Opta Stadium in Perth, you look
47:12
Speaker 3: at Adelaide Oval redevelopment, you look at Marvel in Melbourne.
47:17
Speaker 3: They always become great assets for the community.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's something.
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Speaker 14: I mean, you're building a team for the future unity,
47:25
Speaker 14: You're not trying to build it for next season or
47:27
Speaker 14: even the season after that.
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Speaker 1: It is.
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Speaker 14: It is going to take a while, but you know,
47:32
Speaker 14: we know that people in Tasmania are an enormous are
47:35
Speaker 14: enormous supporters. We know that the AFL is only growing
47:38
Speaker 14: and it is still incredibly popular. I mean, you don't
47:42
Speaker 14: want to do it at the expense of people, but
47:45
Speaker 14: you're trying to build it for the States. So I've
47:47
Speaker 14: got to admit I'm not a person who's worked out
47:50
Speaker 14: all the facts and figures on it.
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Speaker 1: But at heart I'm still very much a supporter of it. Yeah, yeah,
47:55
Speaker 1: me too.
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Speaker 3: I don't know whether they are named after Peter Hudson
47:58
Speaker 3: or David Boone.
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Speaker 1: Will have to wait and see. Now, just a quick
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Speaker 1: thought from each of you. You catch a virgin flight,
48:03
Speaker 1: someone sits next to you, they got a dog under
48:05
Speaker 1: their chair? Do you want to walk off and fly
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Speaker 1: with quotas?
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Speaker 20: I want to pat it, Chris, like you've got your
48:10
Speaker 20: own show, like you've made it.
48:12
Speaker 1: Why the anger about pets? I'm scared of dogs, but
48:17
Speaker 1: I don't like them.
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Speaker 3: I'm flying Quantus, then I'm not going to sit next
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Speaker 3: to a dog, Justin, what about you?
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Speaker 14: I would rather fly with a dog than most people
48:26
Speaker 14: that I meet on a fly, So I have a
48:31
Speaker 14: and James has not included in that. Now that I've
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Speaker 14: found where his allegiances truly lie, I'd be very happy
48:37
Speaker 14: to sit next to him, you know, compared to most people,
48:40
Speaker 14: I'd rather be with a dog.
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Speaker 1: There you go. Great to have you on board, James
48:44
Speaker 1: and Justin. We'll catch up with you next time. Have
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Speaker 1: we've got time.
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Speaker 3: To mention Robert Redford just a bit of time to
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Speaker 3: squeeze that in because I know he would have meant
48:52
Speaker 3: so much to so many of you. The sad pace
48:54
Speaker 3: passing of Robert Redford today, aged eighty nine. What a
48:59
Speaker 3: fantastic actor he was, and of course went on to
49:01
Speaker 3: be a brilliant director as well, and also did so
49:04
Speaker 3: much for the film industry, of course by founding that
49:07
Speaker 3: Sundance Film Festival every year. Such a such a such
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Speaker 3: a brilliant actor. A great life well lived, and he'll
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Speaker 3: be missed. Thanks for joining us always play to get
49:18
Speaker 3: us through here there on the Kenny Report, Peter.
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Speaker 1: Kretlin's up next. I'll see you tomorrow.