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The Skol Hop Beer brewing process, The Justin Jefferson Contract, the Kirk Cousins Conundrum, and an Interview with Dustin Baker and Wes Joh · The Skol Hop

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  All right, Hey, Vikings fans, welcome into another episode of the School
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  Hot. I'm Evan, I'm Austin. We're just a couple of dudes from
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  Iowa. We like drinking beer and we like talking about the Vikings. Yeah
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  we do. We always do school Oh man, this is my beer tonight.
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  Yeah, you brought the beer and we already did our TikTok. Go
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  check out the first taste TikTok if you haven't already, what did you bring
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  us tonight? Yeah, So this is Gazelleg. We're pretty sure we're pronouncing
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  that correctly. Gazelig Company out of Newton, Iowa. Of course, we
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  only drink Iowa beer here on the School Hop. And I spotted this one
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  on the shelf at the store the other day and I was like, hey,
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  we haven't had Gazellig yet. Yeah, so here we are. We're
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  trying it for the first time. Thank you, Gazellig. We'll be sure
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  to mention you in our descriptions and all that when we post her episode.
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  But this is their lucky Irish red ale. So and it actually just occurred
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  to me right before we started recording that we're coming up on Saint Patrick's days.
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  Yeah, yeah, I have a little fun, little happy happenstance there.
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  Yeah, Saint Patty's Day, special day in my household. It's the
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  legal day that my wife and I got married, which not everybody knows,
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  but now I know that story. I forgot that that was the date.
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  But yeah, yeah, I might get yelled at for that, but she
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  doesn't listen anyways, So I'm Randa. Yeah. I like this one a
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  lot so far. Yeah, it's got not as heavy as a flavor as
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  I thought it would based off the way it looks, because it looks pretty
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  dark, but it's a nice, light refreshing flavors and it's still like an
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  ambery red flavor that's just nice and light and refreshing, and it's not overbearing.
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  It's really smooth, easy drinking. I like it. Yeah, good
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  stuff. Also, Gazelleg. We are not entirely sure if we're pronouncing that
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  name correctly, although in looking up information about them, they have a pretty
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  active Facebook account, so maybe if we tag them, they will let us
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  know how much we butchered their name, or if we got it right and
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  let us know some of their other viewers. We should try, Yeah,
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  because based off this one, we should definitely try some more of theirs.
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  Yeah, yeah, we'll definitely have to find some more on the shelves and
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  pick some more up. But I think our first skull was kind of an
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  iffy one, so I think we need to do it again, right ready,
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  skull that was better, a little bit better. We'll make the one
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  at the end of the episode the best one we've had better. But yeah,
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  all right, Well, in addition to good beer, we've got,
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  I've got the vikings. They're always there for us. They're always there.
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  I don't know if they're there for us in the way that you just said
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  that they were. They're there and they accept our emotional support. Yeah,
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  it's not always given back to us. That's fair. It is the off
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  season, and there seems to be a lot of storylines that are there.
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  Fair ye here, I am trying to just be a pessimist out of nowhere.
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  Just sorry. I mean, if you've listened to the show for any
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  length of time, you know that's the dynamic. I'm the optimist, you're
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  the pessimist, and that's fine, and we balance each other out. That's
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  why our listeners listener and or listeners enjoy us. I mean, it's it's
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  kind of like our beer tastes too. That is true. I much more.
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  Yeah, which we could probably talk about that a little bit too.
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  I mean, yeah, our last episode was our brew Day episode. Yeah.
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  So if you caught our last episode, episode twenty eight, we were
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  live on location in Austin's garage, as live as you can be on a
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  pre recorded podcast. Yeah. Well, I mean you gotta take it for
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  what it is, but yes, we were on location in the garage and
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  you probably heard through the microphones if you were listening to us some of the
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  noise that was in the garage, and that was the brewing equipment. So
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  our friend Forrest Yep front of the show Forest, who's been on before.
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  He's a pretty good brewer, yeah, I must say, and he agreed
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  to help us brew the skull Hop beer. Yeah. So it's currently fermenting
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  in your basement. I think most of the fermentation is done at this point.
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  I did the round. There's only one round of dry hopping, for
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  those of you that know what that is, and for those of you that
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  don't, dry hopping is. You know, several days after you start the
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  fermentation process, you add in more hops, which just enhances the hoppy flavor.
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  So I just did that today, what a week and a couple of
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  days after we did the initial brewing, so it's well on its way.
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  We will be we will be drinking the skull Hop in no time. Nice.
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  Yeah, I'm excited for that, and we'll hope to share that with
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  you the audience as well. So we're excited to share that and I'm looking
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  forward to trying that. Yeah, I mean everything from the war to just
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  smelling everything to watching the process. It was exciting. It was a lot
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  of fun. It's you know, brew days are always great days. And
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  we partook in a few of other beers. Yeah, we sure did,
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  even I wo beers. So we're still holding true yep. So that'll be
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  on the horizon in the next I don't know, a handful of weeks,
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  maybe maybe month or less. Yeah, yeah, sometimes we need a timeline
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  plan out the official tapping event or situation. But we're planning on doing some
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  bottles too, So I made up some labels and made sure we have the
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  caps and everything. So yeah, well out keg and some bottles and it'd
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  be a good time. That'll be fun. I'm excited. This is my
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  first beer brewing experience. You've done it a few times, a couple of
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  times with Forrest, and I've assisted. And my version of assisting was like
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  when you're a kid and you're holding the flashlight for your dad in the car
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  when he's fixing something. It's like I might have held the flashlight. Okay,
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  So I think I've brewed with him for three four ish times and he
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  is the master and I am still I'm not even the apprentice yet. I'm
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  just the guy in the room. So you definitely had more of an understanding
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  of the process than I did. I was just I was the guy behind
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  the camera for most of it. I'm just like, I'm just going to
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  document, but do it happen. You did do a few you added all
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  the grains, and you asked very intelligent questions and thanks. And I would
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  say, the next time we brew the skull Hop, because this is going
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  to be an amazing beer, because and we're going to have to brew it
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  again. The next time we brew it, you will know way more and
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  be way more comfortable than you came in, as you know a week ago.
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  So well, I'm looking forward to it. I'm looking forward to to
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  trying it too. It's gonna be great. It'd be great. Well,
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  that's a lot of beer talk, and we are a Vikings podcast as well.
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  It's true, and even though it's the off season, there are a
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  couple of things we can talk about. Some things even came out today.
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  Yeah, so you were just right before we started recording, you were reading
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  an article about a possible JJ departure. Yeah, and which, of course
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  you have to take any of this with the grain of a grain of salt.
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  Yeah, absolutely, And as I was reading the article, I was
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  kind of telling you about it, and you were like, hold on,
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  don't say anymore, Like, we have a podcast that we can talk about
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  these these things on so I stopped. But this article just posted today from
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  other friend of the show, Dustin Baker, who you may be hearing his
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  voice in just a few minutes. Actually you will be hearing his voice in
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  just a few minutes. Actually gone. Yeah, yeah, but before that,
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  he did post a article today titled Patriots themed site claims Justin Jefferson trade
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  is more than just a rumor, or more than a rumor, and he
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  basically I'll let you guys go to Vikings Territory dot com and find that article
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  but basically Mike Fisher of si dot Com basically alluded to the idea that the
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  Vikings and the Patriots have discussed about a trade for that number three overall pick,
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  and that Justin Jefferson could have been brought up in those talks when you
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  cut me off and I was trying, I was starting to tell you my
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  opinions on this. I genuinely don't believe Justin Jefferson is going anywhere. With
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  the way he has been talking in the media. It's been very you know,
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  professional and very cordial, but you can be professional and still say like
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  I would like a new situation, I'd like a new place. He has
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  still very much been saying like, I appreciate Minnesota. I like Minnesota,
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  I like playing here. It's been great for me. Let's keep this going
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  pretty much. And then you got Quasi, Dafamensa and Koc. They've the
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  whole time, everybody in this whole conversation has all been saying we want Justin
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  Jefferson to be a Viking and be a Viking for a long time. So,
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  I mean, I could kind of believe an idea that you trade him
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  for, even if it's you know, requisite value if there was negative energy
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  around this whole thing, at least publicly. But I think the only negative
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  part of the whole justin Jefferson's situation, is that he doesn't technically have a
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  deal signed yet. And as far as the public goes, that's all we
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  know. We're not in those negotiation rooms. We don't really know what happens
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  behind closed doors. But all we know is in front of the public,
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  everybody's saying the right things in a positive manner. He doesn't appear to be
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  frustrated by the timing of all of this. If I had to guess,
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  now, maybe he is. And maybe you know, again, behind closed
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  doors, he and his agent are just like, oh my gosh, why
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  don't we have a deal done yet? Like it like, if this doesn't
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  happen soon, we're just gonna have to throw in the towel on Minnesota and
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  go somewhere else where they can pay me. Like it doesn't seem like that's
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  the case. It seems like, at least on the outside, he's being
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  patient. He wants to know what's going to happen with Kirk. He is
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  hoping to be near or at the top in terms of the wide receiver market,
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  and he has a very strong case to be there. But I if
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  he truly is being patient and just trying to kind of wait things out,
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  kind of get through this whole process, all the power to it, like
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  oh yeah, like yeah, that's this is the type of player that we
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  want to deal with. Absolutely. We don't want the headache. We don't
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  want the disgruntled that I want this and if you can't meet my demands,
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  then I'm leaving kind of player the guy that'll tweet out some random, dark
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  sounding quote from nowhere, or the guy like or the guy will go into
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  the locker room after skipping practice a few days with his hood basically covering his
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  entire face and just complain, but say no, I like it here.
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  You don't want that, And that's not what JJ is doing. To your
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  point, everything has been very professional. It's just the only negative is that
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  there's not currently a deal signed. And everybody knows and is okay with the
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  fact that JJ is probably going to get the highest non quarterback salary in the
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  league history. And I think he's performed well and requisite of that kind of
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  a contract. One other article I do kind of want to mention I think
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  it was posted today or it came out today, or at least I saw
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  it today from Matthew Caller, and this is on Purple Insider. He basically
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  kind of wrote up an entire article about It's titled on Justin Jefferson Moneyball in
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  the Minnesota sports History, And basically the biggest point of that is the Vikings
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  have time leverage on JJ, Like he is under contract with his fifth year
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  option this coming twenty twenty four season, that's already a done deal, and
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  then they have the ability to franchise tag him one, two, even three
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  times, like he is essentially under the Vikings control contract wise for at least
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  the next two or three seasons, as long as the Vikings are willing to
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  pony up the franchise tag money, which he's going to be getting that kind
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  of money anyway, so we're not under the clock. It's not like they
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  need to sign him or he's a free agent, you know, on March
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  thirteenth, like the Kirk Cousins type deal. But to that point, JJ
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  knows that he knows that he could you know, whine and complain and be
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  this you know, pr nightmare and probably force his way out or he can
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  wind and complain and be a pr nightmare and still be stuck with the team.
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  And it sounds like he's okay with being a Viking that it's yeah,
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  it's just getting the deal signed. So and I think it would be advantageous
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  for the organization to sign him now rather than wait, because it's kind of
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  like like when you're buying a house and rates are going up, like you
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  don't want to wait, and you know, you could buy a house at
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  five percent now, or you could wait a year and buy a house at
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  seven percent next year, Like no, let's just buy the house now.
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  Like sure, Yeah, he's gonna reset the market. He is going to
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  probably be the top wide receiver ever in terms of contract dollars. Yeah,
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  let's let him take that and then someone else will reset that down the road.
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  These deals always get you know, trumped over. Yeah, And it's
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  just we're on this constant escalation of contracts. I feel like, and to
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  that point, if they had signed him to a mega contract this time last
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  year, it would have probably been like a ten percent cheaper contract or somewhere
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  in that. And if they wait another year, it's gonna be another ten
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  to twenty percent higher of a contract than it would be if they signed it
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  right now. So I mean, ultimately, we can as fans complain like,
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  oh, he's too much money or oh the contract, but like I
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  mean, it's not our money. So if the team is willing, and
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  this is for any player, the team is willing to dish out a bunch
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  of money on a guy like that's that's on them. I don't remember hearing
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  a ton of complaints when the team signed Marcus Davenport last year. Yeah,
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  there might have been some question marks and some people saying like, well,
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  he's kind of injured and he's that's a lot of money, but yeah,
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  we'll see how it goes. He's really good and yeah that one didn't work
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  out. But I mean those deals happen all the time. Big money is
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  sent out all the time. It's just jj outside of it, outside of
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  injury is pretty much a guarantee to deliver on that on those dollars. So
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  I mean, even in a very short season for him this year, he's
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  still broke a thousand yards and was a big contributor, and a short season
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  with in major inconsistency, he's at quarterback. Yeah, yeah, I mean,
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  it all just If anything, the quarterback situation just made him look even
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  better. Like, look, look what he did in a you know a
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  little more than half of a season with you know, a handful of different
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  quarterbacks like mostly Nick Mullins. Yeah, which, and the guy's a gunslinger,
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  so people get their yards. But still, like I mean, he's
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  gonna get his money and he's gonna produce. He's not a question mark.
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  The only thing is like, the only question mark would be injury. But
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  that's for anybody, Like you know, you're getting production and good pr shoot
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  the NFL. He's like one of the faces of the NFL. So he's
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  he's a good marketable player. It'd be surprising if he was, you know,
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  in the back of a police car anytime, or said anything that didn't
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  uphold the shield any time. Like you're not worried about that as of yet,
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  Like anybody could do anything. Kirk Cousins could get arrested, like he'd
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  be shocked. But like, JJ is somebody that you feel good about paying
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  for sure. I think one of the biggest question marks for him and maybe
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  a transition for us, is who's going to be throwing him the ball?
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  And that's we've said it now. For weeks, we've beat this horse to
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  death. It has just been the talk of the off season. What is
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  going to happen with Kirk Cousins. And there was some video that came out
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  today. He was on a tennis court of all places. Yeah, yeah,
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  which was weird, but he was doing four step drops planting that.
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  I don't know if was he planting his torn achilles or was he planting his
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  healthy I think he tore his right achilles. Correct, I'm trying to remember,
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  Yes, yes, he tore his right achilles. Ow man, I
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  guess I don't it might be his left either way. In the video,
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  he was stepping back and dropping and making definitive plants. Yeah and yeah.
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  He posted two videos. They were both like six or seven seconds long.
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  Maybe, for all we know, they filmed like five hours worth of everything
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  and maybe only got fourteen seconds worth of good video, or which is more
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  likely, he filmed fourteen seconds worth of video and posting them out. But
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  it seemed like he's healthy. I'm not a doctor. I don't know what
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  milestones he should be hitting at this point as far as his achilles and movement
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  and everything. I was trying to think back of the timeline of Aaron Rodgers
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  this year, Like when did they start saying, oh, he's throwing passes
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  on the sideline, Like, I don't remember that well. I mean there
• 18:33
  was all that talk that Aaron Rodgers would technically have been available for the Super
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  Bowl, yeah, had had the Packers made it that far. And I
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  don't know if I believed that timeline. I mean, there was an outside
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  chance that Kirk would have been available at that point had needed him, had
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  the Jets made it. You said, the Packers, the Jets. You're
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  I'm sorry, but yeah, you're right. Kirk did have that quote where
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  he was basically talking about like, hey, anything Aaron's doing. I was
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  like, I don't remember what he said, Like I was like eight weeks
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  behind him, so you could theoretically think i'd be about eight weeks behind that.
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  But then Kirk did say, like, shoot, if the Vikings made
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  the super Bowl and I was healthy, like, they probably wouldn't want me
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  because they've probably got something going that got them to the super Bowl. They
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  didn't even make the playoffs. But that's okay. Yeah, I mean,
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  maybe Kirk is way ahead of where he's supposed to be or right on time.
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  But either way, he posted a video of him doing football activities in
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  a practice setting. But I mean I was impressed. I'm sure every other
• 19:34
  armchair GM was impressed as well. You commented though, on the timing of
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  it all, because I think I think you found the timing to be pretty
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  poignant. Oh yeah, and in terms of the just the general like NFL
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  calendar, right, I mean I was one of millions of people that tweeted
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  out and said, like, pretty interesting that this is happening right at the
• 19:57
  start of the combine whenever everybody is definitely not supposed to but definitely is talking
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  about contracts and general idea of who people could sign for how much, general
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  idea. So yeah, it was Kirk is a businessman, He is savvy.
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  Yep, this wasn't just some twenty year old kid tweeting something out on
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  a whim. Like he definitely knew what he was doing, and everybody else
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  knew what he was doing too. It's like, yeah, he is showing
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  everybody I'm healthy. And I did see somebody else tweet today, which it's
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  an obvious point, but I hadn't thought of it. So it's a really
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  good point. The Vikings know where he's at healthwise, like they He wasn't
• 20:41
  telling the Vikings, hey look how I'm doing. He was telling everybody else,
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  Hey look how I'm doing. Like if anything like that video was not
• 20:52
  great for the people that are desperate to have Kirk Cousins back in Purple because
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  it was more of a advertising to everyone else, like I'm doing okay at
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  least at this point. Like I can back up what I said a few
• 21:03
  weeks ago that I'd be good for OTAs. So Yeah, ultimately, I
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  don't think he's going to be back in Purple. I'd love it at the
• 21:11
  right price, but the price has kind of been brought up in the in
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  the news lately too. Yeah, and that the number seems to fluctuate.
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  I mean it seems to be one crazy number one day and then oh nice,
• 21:26
  lovely hometown discount the next. Yeah, And it depends on the source,
• 21:30
  It depends on the day. I mean, I don't know, It's
• 21:36
  been kind of an odd situation, and I don't know if one player has
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  ever been the focus of the entire league. It seems like, I mean,
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  like it's not just the Vikings. Obviously, the Vikings have a lot
• 21:48
  riding on this one decision and this one player. But he is the quarterback
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  market right now. I mean it's him and then there's no one else.
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  Well yeah, like we mean there are other people, but like he is
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  the best available player, yeah, best available quarterback for sure in the league,
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  because I mean, yeah, he's still technically under contract with Vikings,
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  but he's available. Like he at any moment could be like, yeah,
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  Vikes, I'm I don't. You could give me two hundred billion dollars like
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  I'm not gonna sign. Or he could be like yeah, Vikes, give
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  me thirty million and I'm good, let's go, or the Vikings. You
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  know, that's the whole point of this whole decision. Like everybody's got a
• 22:30
  part of their decision, and somebody may be upset or happy either way.
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  Yeah, you're right, this does seem very unique. It's not like he's
• 22:37
  not Pat Mahomes, but it's not like anyone else's It's not like Pat Mahomes
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  is available. Maybe last year during that whole Lamar Jackson time when he was
• 22:45
  a tendered player. Yeah, and anybody technically could negotiate with him, which
• 22:51
  I'm still weird about. Like nobody everybody was like going out of the way
• 22:55
  to say nope, we're not going to go after him. So I don't
• 22:56
  know why, but yeah, maybe that's the we've had to this kind of
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  a situation. Like it wasn't even this way with Aaron Rodgers. I misspoke
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  earlier, but yes, when he left the Packers to go to the Jets,
• 23:08
  like, there wasn't this like Aaron Rodgers sweepstakes. Almost it was like,
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  nope, he's leaving in Nope, this other green team's gonna pick him
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  up. Yeah all right, yeah with that, it was always weird.
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  It was like, okay, there's some adversity between Aaron Rodgers and the Packers.
• 23:27
  Maybe they will move on. I don't know. Some of the fans
• 23:32
  were saying, yeah, Aaron's just not getting it done anymore. We need
• 23:34
  to move on, like and then once it was more and more public,
• 23:38
  it was like immediately like, oh, yeah, it sounds like the Jets
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  might be the most interested. And then of course he went on Pat McAfee
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  and said it's my intention to play and play for the Jets, like so,
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  yeah, you're right. There wasn't like a who's he gonna go to?
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  Like it was always the Packers or probably the Jets. Like, yep,
• 23:56
  so Kirk could go anywhere. I still think it's either Pittsburgh or Land.
• 24:00
  That's my official guess. Well, and there have been a ton of
• 24:03
  other locations for him too, I mean Vegas is one that I've heard.
• 24:11
  I mean, there are some definite outliers. But like I mean, even
• 24:17
  Chicago is needing a quarterback depending on who you ask, and I would say,
• 24:22
  yeah, they need one. They also hold the number one pick,
• 24:26
  so it's true. They are the winners of the Kila Williams sweepstakes. Like,
• 24:30
  like I said, they're an outlier for sure. Yeah, if they
• 24:33
  wanted to put their stock in a veteran quarterback who's proven himself in the league,
• 24:41
  you know, Kirks not that far away. Yeah, absolutely. I
• 24:47
  think he's a Chicago native or from around there in Michigan. Well, I
• 24:52
  think that his family moved to Michigan. Like, I'm pretty sure he was
• 24:56
  born in or near the Chicago area and lived there for a few years.
• 25:00
  I might be totally wrong, let me know if I'm wrong, but I
• 25:03
  thought that was the case. Holland and Michigan, right, And I think
• 25:06
  that's where it's hometown. Yeah, where he went to high school. Yeah,
• 25:10
  yeah, interesting, Well, a lot still riding on that decision,
• 25:15
  and no doubt will continue to be a part of the conversation for at least
• 25:22
  the next few weeks. I just keep hoping every day, like I just
• 25:26
  hope something happens, yeah, like, and just give us something it could
• 25:30
  I mean, with the combine, that's probably the best chance for We'll definitely
• 25:33
  hear rumors, like we've been hearing rumors the whole time, but we'll definitely
• 25:37
  hear some rumors and then I mean I've heard, Yeah, we might have
• 25:41
  a resolution this week or next week about what could you know, at least
• 25:45
  a more focused idea of what could happen with Kirk. So we'll see and
• 25:51
  then you never know, there could be some surprise craziness happening. But quarterbacks
• 25:56
  not the only position the Vikings need to take a hard look at this offseason.
• 26:02
  I think running back is definitely an area of need. Dustin Baker posted
• 26:07
  a video today Monday talking about Like he mentioned, the Vikings don't have a
• 26:12
  quantity problem of at the running back position because they have quite a few guys
• 26:18
  under contract. Do they have a quality problem? I mean, yes,
• 26:23
  it's no secret Alex Madison isn't a running back one Cam Akers I think is
• 26:29
  technically about to be a free agent. But even if he wasn't, he's
• 26:33
  torn his second achilles within two or three years knee Wanglu just for whatever reason
• 26:38
  can't produce as a running back. He's a pretty good kick returner, like
• 26:44
  pretty electric one, but just can't figure it out as a running back when
• 26:48
  he does get some limited opportunities. Ty Chandler's kind of a wild card,
• 26:53
  shown flashes but hasn't had a lot of opportunity. So then what Miles Gaskin
• 27:00
  and Dwayne McBride Wayne McBride, Yeah, and then yeah, so what do
• 27:07
  you think there's there's a lot of the big name running backs from last season
• 27:11
  that we're complaining, Oh, we don't get paid, and then some of
• 27:14
  them got franchise tagged or one year contracts, and Schefter Adam Schefter tweeted today
• 27:18
  that a handful of those guys are basically going to be able to hit free
• 27:22
  agency. And you're talking Josh Jacobs and Saquon Barkley and Derrick Henry and Tony
• 27:30
  Pollery and Austin Eckler, like the big names, but also like on the
• 27:33
  older side. So do the Vikings take a flyer for a year or two
• 27:37
  with one of those guys, or do they draft one of the Michigan kid
• 27:41
  or look elsewhere in the draft? Like, what are your thoughts? How
• 27:45
  do you think they'll go about that? I think you have to clear some
• 27:48
  room in the running back room first. I think you let Cam Akers go
• 27:52
  in free agency. I've said that before already. I mean we spent almost
• 27:57
  an entire episode going through I think we've spent a couple episodes now going through
• 28:03
  that really lengthy list of free agents that the Vikings have. And I've stood
• 28:08
  firm that cam Akers was great when he was healthy. It should have been
• 28:15
  RB one, but for whatever reason they never did that should have been yes.
• 28:21
  But now that he's torn both of his achilles in the last couple of
• 28:25
  years, I think it's time to move on from him. I could see.
• 28:29
  Unfortunately, and we've already said, right, the other guys in that
• 28:34
  room aren't a high caliber product on the field, at least as of right
• 28:41
  now, at this point in their careers. I mean, there's no question
• 28:45
  Derrick Henry is an elite maybe Hall of Fame guy Josh Jacobs had a pretty
• 28:51
  decent season last year with the Raiders. If I remember right, Eckler has
• 28:55
  always been a touchdown machine, but he seemed to have lost a step in
• 28:59
  the second half of the year last year. Yeah, there's not. It's
• 29:02
  not like prime Adrian Peterson is about to hit the market, like I think.
• 29:07
  My thoughts are, if you can snag one of those guys at a
• 29:11
  really good rate, not I mean, we're not paying a ton hashtag don't
• 29:18
  pay running backs. Yep, even like five million would be too much for
• 29:22
  one of those guys in my opinion, probably, But I think if you
• 29:26
  can snag one of those guys, and it probably doesn't matter who, maybe
• 29:30
  it does. Maybe if you can get the youngest and the healthiest of the
• 29:36
  batch, yeah, you know, and maybe hope that you can be in
• 29:42
  a position to bring them back in future years and keep them healthy and get
• 29:47
  more production out of them long term. You know, maybe maybe you play
• 29:51
  the long game that way. But at least for a year, if you
• 29:55
  can get one of them under five I think why not. I mean,
• 30:02
  it's not gonna kill the cap and we need something we need. Our running
• 30:07
  game was so abysmal, horrible for most of the season that something has to
• 30:14
  change. And so I do like the idea of drafting, and I like
• 30:18
  those Michigan kids. Well, I guess it's just the one, really,
• 30:21
  Korum. Yeah, and I think there's a couple other good options in the
• 30:25
  draft that you could consider as well. I can't remember any of them off
• 30:27
  the top of my head. Yeah, we will know more about the drafted
• 30:32
  guy or the upcoming rookies as the draft gets closer. But yeah, but
• 30:37
  and maybe maybe that's the strategy. Maybe it's a both, and maybe you
• 30:41
  do try to find a veteran in free agency that can be cheap but productive,
• 30:45
  and you also find somebody in the draft that you can bring in and
• 30:51
  develop and hopefully turn into that next generation talent. I mean, shoot,
• 30:57
  I think Dalvin cook my be a free agent as well. Who knows,
• 31:00
  Maybe maybe you look at a reunion there. Yeah, that wouldn't be the
• 31:04
  worst idea. He's got the he's the one they know in the most about
• 31:10
  so if they were to bring him in, that would be very telling for
• 31:12
  me. I don't I don't expect that to happen, but if they were,
• 31:17
  like it, would you like, Yeah, they know this guy,
• 31:18
  he knows these guys, Like it is kind of like he's kind of this
• 31:22
  is a really awful analogy, and I don't mean it to be like it's
• 31:30
  no reflection on him as a person, but like just like he's kind of
• 31:34
  like a used car, like like you just you know what you're getting,
• 31:38
  like you've it's a used car that you've driven for a yeah, like you
• 31:42
  know the problems with it, you know how to you know Jimmy the lock
• 31:45
  and you know, like he's injury prone and he's had fumble issues before.
• 31:52
  Like we know some of those things about Dalvin Cook, and we would know
• 31:56
  what we're getting into. Yeah, if we him back. And I think
• 32:00
  it's a good analogy. I like that one. But on the flip side,
• 32:02
  and I think you'd agree with us too, Like you you are comfortable
• 32:07
  with some of the used cars, like yeah, yep, Like yeah,
• 32:10
  it might not be the flashy, brand new all the technology everybody else has,
• 32:15
  but like you know what you're gonna get. I think I'm just reiterating
• 32:20
  what you just said. Yeah, and it works and you know what could
• 32:23
  break down and what to do about that. Like some people in their cars,
• 32:28
  they know they need to bring extra a gallon of water because the radiator
• 32:30
  is gonna overheat or something, but they know that, so they have a
• 32:34
  gallon of water. So I don't know what that overheating radiator would be for
• 32:37
  Dalvin Cook. But like his shoulder has always been a problem, I feel
• 32:44
  like he's dealt with some other just nagging injuries that have never really fully gone
• 32:49
  away. And part of that was just because the Vikings just relied on him
• 32:52
  so heavily, and he was the bell cow for his whole career until he
• 32:58
  left. And I mean all that to the point that he was top three
• 33:06
  running backs in Biking's history, at least top five, like statistically he may
• 33:10
  even be like the second best running back in Biking's history, but he was
• 33:14
  easily top five running backs in Bikings history. So if there's anything there,
• 33:19
  I wouldn't I wouldn't turn my nose at it. But there's probably better options
• 33:22
  out there, and maybe even cheaper. I don't think Dalvin's commanding fourteen million
• 33:27
  dollars at this point, but I mean, if you can get Dalvin for
• 33:30
  two or three like that would be huge, and I may be way off.
• 33:34
  That may be just way too little amount of money from what he's going
• 33:37
  to get this offseason, but maybe that used car might be a nice thing
• 33:42
  to get. Yeah, and I feel like, I mean, that whole
• 33:45
  group of running backs that tried to kind of will their way to bigger contracts,
• 33:49
  that it just kind of blew up in their face. Yea, the
• 33:51
  NFL won. They strong armed them, not saying maybe the running backs definitely
• 33:54
  had a hill to to stand on there, but the NFL was like,
• 33:58
  Nope, running acts most easily replaced position out there, maybe outside of punter,
• 34:02
  Like there's a million of you guys, we'll just have somebody else and
• 34:07
  pay them a lot less. Well, we should talk about all of these
• 34:13
  things in our interview that you're gonna watch here in just a moment. Yeah,
• 34:19
  yeah, that's a good idea. We should bring up some of these
• 34:21
  points with Dustin. I think we've got somebody else coming with him to Wes.
• 34:25
  But yeah, we're about to dive into an interview with Dustin Baker,
• 34:30
  and then we'll be back and give our more thought out opinions of this this
• 34:36
  lucky what is it called again? Look like the Irish read from Gizelikzel.
• 34:44
  That's right, all right? Yeah, enjoy the interview and we'll catch up
• 34:47
  with you when that's done. All right, Skulhoppers, Welcome in. You
• 34:57
  just heard the first half of our podcast. We kind of talked a little
• 35:00
  bit about some of the news points that have hit early this week, and
• 35:05
  now we're diving in. We're welcoming back Dustin Baker for the third time,
• 35:09
  and we've got another new face, another new voice to the show. Welcome
• 35:15
  in, Wes Johnson. Welcome to the show man. Thanks for having me.
• 35:20
  Yeah, yeah, So I'm not too familiar with you. Dustin said,
• 35:23
  he's my homie, so of course we wanted to have him on.
• 35:27
  Have you on, and would you mind kind of giving us and the few
• 35:31
  listeners we do have at this point, kind of an intro to who you
• 35:35
  are and a little bit of your backstory. Yeah. Absolutely. I'm a
• 35:39
  second generation Vikings fan born in Rockford, Illinois. My dad is a Vikings
• 35:47
  fan and just grew up following the Vikings because I like tagging along with my
• 35:55
  dad to tailgates or just watching Vikings game with him at home, and that
• 36:08
  hasn't ever left. I've bounced kind of all across the country. I've lived
• 36:14
  in Baltimore, Maryland, Los Angeles, I'm now in San Francisco, and
• 36:21
  yeah, I always been a big Vikings fan, and I met Dustin at
• 36:24
  the beginning of the pandemic and we hit it off, became fast friends,
• 36:30
  and he recruited me to write for Vikings Territory. I did that for about
• 36:38
  a year year and a half, taking a little hiatus with work picking up
• 36:46
  so well, I haven't want to write. I just don't have the time
• 36:51
  right now. But maybe one of these days I'll be able to get back
• 36:55
  into it. Awesome, awesome Sea Rockford's not too terribly far from where Evan
• 37:00
  and I are, like in the Quad Cities, Iowa, right on the
• 37:05
  border of Iowa Illinois there, So yeah, a little familiarity with that area
• 37:12
  too. Being a Vikings fan in San Francisco, it's got to be pretty
• 37:15
  interesting sometimes, especially this season. The Monday night game we had that must
• 37:20
  have been fun. Absolutely yeah, So yeah, thanks for coming on.
• 37:27
  We're really glad to have you. Really looking forward to the conversation here,
• 37:31
  so yeah, I guess we can just kind of dive right into it.
• 37:36
  There was some cool stuff that happened at the Combine today. I guess it
• 37:38
  kind of started officially today, being Tuesday here Koc and Quacy Dafamensa both had
• 37:47
  short press conferences which there were some good nuggets from both of them in there.
• 37:52
  Dustin, was there anything super surprising from either of those press conferences to
• 37:58
  you? There's a couple for me, but I'll give you a chance to
• 38:00
  talk first. There was a couple surprising elements, only because we've gone on
• 38:05
  a drought for those that follow this stuff intensely. The only real news we've
• 38:09
  had in the last month are THEO Jackson back on, you know, a
• 38:14
  one year contract, whatever it was. TJ. Hawkinson had surgery, and
• 38:16
  then a couple coaching hires before today of guys you'd never really heard of.
• 38:21
  Of course, Josh McCown got hired today and most folks know who he is.
• 38:23
  So yes, there were surprising elements for me because I was craving knowledge.
• 38:28
  The first bit of surprise was Kevin O'Connell his acceptance to exploring free agency
• 38:36
  in the draft for a running back, and back to back seasons the Vikings
• 38:38
  have ranked in a bottom six per rushing Dvoway and I think I've said on
• 38:43
  the show before, the Vikings offense will never be unlocked unless they can run
• 38:46
  the football. I'm not talking about like Mike Zimmer where they have to run
• 38:50
  it over half the time. But when you get a lead like twenty one
• 38:52
  to three, there's a reason why teams always come back, and that's because
• 38:55
  the Vikings can't move the sticks by running the ball. We always made fun
• 39:00
  of Mike Zimmer for running out the clock. Well, sometimes you just need
• 39:02
  to do that and not make every damn game a one score game. So
• 39:07
  Kevin O'Connell said that we will look at an infusion that was his word,
• 39:12
  at from free agency or the draft for running backs. So that shows me
• 39:15
  that they're going to adjust the personnel. And then the other obvious one from
• 39:20
  Quasi Daffamensa was not necessarily what he said when asked about trading Justin Jefferson.
• 39:27
  It was the chip on his shoulder when he said it. He said,
• 39:30
  any any of his noise, you said, he said, it's false,
• 39:32
  and he put like a big F into the f's and then he just said
• 39:37
  that he's never even considered trading Justin Jefferson. So the ten or so websites
• 39:40
  or dudes that have sprung up and say, hey, the Vikeys might trade
• 39:44
  their best player to pave the way for the future. That was all just
• 39:47
  speculative hearsay, generate to you know, think about daydreaming ideas about what the
• 39:52
  Vikings could do. They were never going to get right to the end of
• 39:55
  a competitive rebuild and trade their best player. I mean, what do we
• 39:59
  think They were never going to do that. So yeah, it was the
• 40:02
  affirmation that Jefferson is safe, although most of us on the show knew that
• 40:07
  all along. And then an honest to goodness look at the running back position,
• 40:10
  not just lip service of saying, hey, Alexander Madison, we like
• 40:14
  them. They actually just really glossed over Madison. Both guys during that press
• 40:17
  conference. They were like, yeah, I did a good job last year,
• 40:20
  and that was it. Yeah, I guess we can dive into the
• 40:22
  running back position a little bit later. But one thing I noticed you posted
• 40:28
  on Viking's Territory, like not even an hour or two ago, was kind
• 40:32
  of looking at that running back position a little bit. And one thing I
• 40:37
  kind of found interesting was the depth chart of who is currently on the roster
• 40:43
  that you listed out. You had alex Madison at the position I think he's
• 40:46
  best at, which is running back too I think that's a valid football position,
• 40:52
  is back up running back, and I think alex Madison is crimed for
• 40:57
  that position, not necessarily the starting tailback, but you had ty Chandler at
• 41:01
  running back one, which I thought was pretty interesting and I definitely agree with
• 41:06
  it. But I don't think the coaching staff from what they showed us last
• 41:09
  year, are super quick to say, yeah, ty Chandler, he's our
• 41:14
  number one right now, before free agency or the draft or anything. Well,
• 41:16
  I'm a huge Kevin O'Connell guy, and same with Quasi Aafamensa. But
• 41:21
  I will tell you right now, if they trod into Week one with Alexander
• 41:23
  Madison getting seventy five percent of the carries, I will start to question his
• 41:27
  intelligence. Not because I dislike Madison. I just know Madison is best carved
• 41:30
  out for that role behind Douve in a roll, behind Chandler, and I
• 41:35
  think it's clear, beyond the shadow of a doubt now that that is obvious.
• 41:37
  That's not a hot take. So and they spent the whole the whole
• 41:42
  press conference in the running back section talking about ty Chandler. His name came
• 41:45
  up first. So right now, I believe we're at a spot, especially
• 41:47
  for fantasy football heads like Wes, where you're trying to figure out if Chandler
• 41:52
  is going to be a quasi belcow or if they're going to go sign DeAndre
• 41:55
  Swift, who I wouldn't mind from free agency, or they you know,
• 41:59
  get a pretty damn good running back like Marshall Lloyd or somebody in the draft.
• 42:01
  So I think we will spend the next two maybe even two weeks to
• 42:06
  bring on what they do in free agency, trying to decide if a Chandler
• 42:07
  is the solution or not. For sure, I think, I said.
• 42:10
  I think it was last week's episode of the skull Hoop. I said,
• 42:14
  if they trot into Week one with the same running back room that they finished
• 42:19
  last season with, I'll be just severely pissed off, like just I'll be
• 42:23
  so angry and like you said, kind of questioning what what are you doing
• 42:28
  here? Like that? Obviously it didn't work. Like so, yeah,
• 42:32
  I guess from the press conferences today, I thought it was interesting Quacy while
• 42:38
  in an active, you know, public negotiation with a star player, he
• 42:44
  said he kind of gave all the verbal leverage to JJ, saying yeah,
• 42:49
  he not only is he one of the best wide receivers. He's one of
• 42:52
  the best non quarterbacks, and he should be compensated like that. It was
• 42:57
  interesting to hear somebody say that where you GMS are like, yeah, we'll
• 43:00
  keep those talks in house, and we're not really gonna say anything. I
• 43:04
  mean, Quacy, it wasn't, you know, super detailed, but he
• 43:07
  did say like he's JJ's gonna get a nice contract. So yeah, I
• 43:13
  guess Evan West, did you, guys, did you see the press conferences
• 43:16
  at all? Did you pick up any nuggets from those things? I saw
• 43:22
  highlights. I didn't see the full thing in its entirety, but I did
• 43:27
  see some snippets and things on Twitter, so okay, I I had a
• 43:35
  chance to see a few different things. One thing I like from QUESI is
• 43:42
  you know he's not gonna tip his hand to contracts. It's all gonna be
• 43:45
  kept in house, which I agree with. He then followed up, like
• 43:53
  Dustin said and shot down that any rumors are completely false, but that not
• 44:00
  tipping the hand to contracts. I think that goes a long way with players
• 44:04
  as well. Players don't want their business out in the street, and when
• 44:09
  pen signs on paper at that point then it's you know, celebration amongst both
• 44:15
  the team and the player. I like that they mentioned that they're listening to
• 44:22
  Jefferson for his input. Who's going to quarterback the future. I think it's
• 44:28
  quite clear after the press conference that they do want to bring Kirk Cousins back.
• 44:34
  But I also read through the tea leaves too. I do think that
• 44:38
  they plan on drafting a quarterback early. And they talked a lot about sustain
• 44:46
  sustaining for the future from twenty four and beyond. And one of the things
• 44:52
  that Crazy said was he didn't do good enough job last offseason in providing depth
• 45:04
  for this team, and that showed once there were injuries that popped up,
• 45:09
  you know, none more critical than the quarterback position. So I think as
• 45:15
  long as they're having an open dialogue with Kirk Cousins and letting them know,
• 45:21
  like, hey, you're getting up there in age, this isn't us,
• 45:25
  I mean, this is us drafting your replacement. This isn't us ushering you
• 45:29
  out the door either. My guess is Kirk's team wants somewhere around a three
• 45:37
  year deal. Vikings probably want a two year deal. I could see them
• 45:42
  kind of meeting in the middle and settling on a three year deal, but
• 45:46
  also with more of a team friendly contract to a company incoming rookie as well.
• 45:55
  So that's just my Galaxy Bran on what I could read into from all
• 46:02
  that. Yeah, and I think I think you're right in what the Vikings
• 46:07
  would want to. I think they would agree with you. Everybody would agree
• 46:09
  that, Yeah, the Vikings would want probably that that two ish maybe even
• 46:14
  one ish year deal. But I kind of agree with with Dustin too anytime
• 46:19
  he's talked about Kirk and the upcoming deal that Kirk will get from probably a
• 46:23
  team other than the Vikings. That I mean, there is no team or
• 46:28
  there is no hometown discount that's really going to be taking effect. I don't
• 46:31
  think, and I don't think Kirk should take any kind of discount like that.
• 46:36
  And it wouldn't be the ten million dollars a year. It would be
• 46:38
  the thirty five forty five, a lot, a lot of money that he's
• 46:43
  probably requisite of earning based on the way he was playing before he got injured
• 46:47
  last year. I thought KOFC said all the right things as Kirk's coach and
• 46:53
  friend, and I thought Quac said all the right things as you know,
• 46:59
  a cheerleader for Kirk, but also the GM of the team in that they'd
• 47:04
  never committed to anything. But they also said, yeah, we'd love to
• 47:06
  have him back, So kind of company lines there too. But yeah,
• 47:09
  it'll be an interesting couple of weeks here for sure, especially with Kirk.
• 47:15
  Does the Josh McCown hire change anything. I mean, when I saw that
• 47:22
  today and then I started to read a little bit more, you know,
• 47:25
  you start to connect some dots and you see that he coached Drake May in
• 47:30
  high school in North Carolina. Like for you guys that are maybe a little
• 47:35
  more kind of involved in some of these things and maybe have a little more
• 47:39
  knowledge. I mean, is the writing on the wall? Are they going
• 47:43
  to pursue Drake May in the draft? I know, Dustin the last time
• 47:46
  you were on with us, you seem to think that that was maybe the
• 47:51
  best choice for the Vikings in the draft at quarterback. I don't know what
• 47:54
  are your guys' thoughts that way. Yeah, I sure as hell hope.
• 47:57
  So I've made no secret of that. Want to be my guy. It
• 48:00
  was influenced by Wes. Way back in September. I was talking to Wes
• 48:04
  and he said for the way the Vikings do things. He'd rather have Drake
• 48:07
  May than Kayleb Williams, and I didn't know. I hadn't dug into either
• 48:09
  quarterback yet because we're just getting to the regular season. And then I figured
• 48:13
  out why Wes was saying that. I believe in an O'Connell offense, which
• 48:15
  at heart is a pocket passer offense. I believe that May's discipline, unlike
• 48:22
  Caleb Williams anarchy at all times. I think Drake May would fit better within
• 48:27
  the Vikings offense that Kevin O'Connell runs. And I really do think that.
• 48:30
  Well, I know that we're overdue for the Vikings to draft a quarterback in
• 48:34
  the top ten. They never have, so it's time, you know,
• 48:37
  we have one of Super Bowl, so let's try something different. I was
• 48:39
  listening to or I saw on Twitter where the Buffalo Bills general manager Brandon bean
• 48:44
  Today talked about the thought process of drafting Josh Allen a few years ago.
• 48:49
  That's exactly what I've been saying about. Why you swing for the fences.
• 48:52
  If you get the pick wrong, the stuff that you traded is going to
• 48:57
  trickle back to you by the time you realize your picks, and in Brandon
• 49:00
  Beid's case, he said he's not gonna work here anymore, so he didn't
• 49:04
  give a shit. He was gonna be fire if he struck out on Josh
• 49:06
  Allen. And then if you get the pick right, which I think Drake
• 49:08
  May will be, nobody any but anywhere will care that you spent three or
• 49:14
  four draft picks on the whole for it. So yeah, I do believe
• 49:17
  there's a little credence to the Josh McCown thing with Drake May. I think
• 49:22
  it's probably like, hey, we like this guy a lot, and you
• 49:25
  know the guy, why don't you come work for us? And McCown already
• 49:30
  thinking like, well, yeah, i'd like a sweet jet. He was
• 49:31
  just quarterbacks coach for the Panthers. But the problem with McCown is he's probably
• 49:36
  gonna be an offensive coordinator at this time next year if he does well with
• 49:38
  Kirk or Drake May. So I wouldn't really look at that as a huge
• 49:43
  long term thing. But yeah, I love the fact that there's a tie
• 49:45
  to Drake May because that just so happens to be my guy. Yeah,
• 49:49
  do you think Josh McCown could be like a coach in waiting for a Vikings
• 49:53
  offensive coordinator job. If Phillips in this you know here situation of the Vikings
• 50:00
  are successful, I think Phillips right the OC, the current OC, he
• 50:05
  would be looked at for for a head coaching job somewhere else. Some account
• 50:09
  could slide right in there. Well, if he quits drinking, yeah,
• 50:14
  probably I can tell you all about that. But in all honesty, I'm
• 50:19
  guessing that DUI probably set him back a few years of his goal. My
• 50:22
  hedge coach, well, I mean you think about it. I think you
• 50:24
  probably need a year or two buffer for people to forget about it. And
• 50:28
  then assuming he either just I mean, Wes and nine are recovered alcoholics,
• 50:34
  so what we see a DUI Usually that's a little bit more implicative of something
• 50:37
  else going on behind the scenes. Sometimes folks just get popped and they made
• 50:40
  a mistake. And I doubt Wes Phillips is a stone cold alcoholic like I
• 50:45
  I guess was or a depending on how you like to use that verbiage.
• 50:49
  But yeah, I don't think Wes Phillips is going to get any head coaching
• 50:51
  interests for a couple of years. You've got to get that stink off of
• 50:52
  you. But that was one of the things I thought about when I saw
• 50:55
  them account Higher was, Hey, this would be a good OC candidate.
• 50:59
  Same thing with Keenan McCardell, who is DUI list. He would be a
• 51:02
  good Vikings offensive coordinator. So yeah, I really do like the McCown higher.
• 51:07
  And even if it's Kirk coming back, I'm sure he and Kirk will
• 51:09
  get along just fine. Was it McCown that was getting some steam for the
• 51:14
  Texans job a couple of seasons ago? Was the beef was he didn't have
• 51:19
  any experience and they were ready to allegedly take the plunge with him without any
• 51:22
  NFL coaching experience. I think, if I'm not mistaken, I'm pretty sure
• 51:28
  he applied for that position the first time when he was still a player with
• 51:34
  the Texan That was kind of interesting too. Yeah, well, and he's
• 51:39
  got some McCown specifically has some Vikings history here. What was it three knocking
• 51:45
  the Vikings out of playoff contention as a cardinal. Yeah, the famous Paul
• 51:51
  Allen call in one of his first famous calls, I think was just the
• 51:55
  whole Oh, I know, well, I interested to see how McCown does.
• 52:02
  Unfortunately, with those like lower those specific position coaches, you never really
• 52:07
  know. I mean, I guess we kind of know with like Keenan McCardell.
• 52:09
  He seems to be a positive influence with the with the wide receivers on
• 52:14
  the team, but you never really know. Eric the Enemy was a great
• 52:17
  running backs coach when Adrian was here, so and now he's I don't think
• 52:22
  he's in the league right now. So yeah, always did he go to
• 52:25
  r c LA? Okay, yeah, yeah, It's it's always interesting how
• 52:30
  these guys can turn out as coaches. One thing I do want to note
• 52:34
  too, is how koc opened the press conference. He was absolutely gushing about
• 52:40
  having all three coordinators return. So I think that staff continuity will go a
• 52:49
  long way. I can imagine that's got to be such a an awesome thing
• 52:52
  for your guys if you're a head coach and your you know, assistant coaches
• 52:57
  get better positions and start moving up the ladder. But it's gotta be frustrating
• 53:00
  too, Like you think any job, if you have a team of you
• 53:04
  know, all your teammates and then if they start dropping like flies, maybe
• 53:07
  a good team that you're on can struggle and show some weaknesses. And areas
• 53:13
  that you didn't see because you had great coaches. So yeah, I can
• 53:16
  imagine it's really nice, especially the Brian Flores Dustin. I was going to
• 53:20
  ask you about that too. Why do you think Brian Flores didn't even publicly
• 53:24
  take an interview? At that point, I started thinking, like is it
• 53:29
  him? Like is he not wanting to take these interviews yet? Like somebody
• 53:31
  had to have been interested in him this year, right, Like, Yeah,
• 53:36
  I'm gonna start off by saying, I don't think the Vikings have had
• 53:38
  full coaching continuity since, like entering the twenty sixteen season, we always we
• 53:44
  always had the carousel on offense and then Donna tell to Flores. My theory
• 53:49
  on it on Brian Flores is not from insider intelligence. It's just that he
• 53:54
  got screwed hardcore by the Dolphins last time in terms of allegedly him to tank
• 54:00
  and all this stuff. And I think he even said, or it was
• 54:05
  leaked last year that he was only going to jump at a reputable head coaching
• 54:08
  job, and this time that would have been the Patriots, but they were
• 54:12
  smoking for immediately. So I'm going to guess that he wants to try to
• 54:15
  see this Vikings thing through for an extra year and then look at the lay
• 54:20
  of the land when there there's a job that he knows, either the owner
• 54:24
  or the general manager. Because I don't think what he wants to go to
• 54:29
  the Panthers and then just get stepped on by some rogue general manager who tossed
• 54:34
  drinks is on people. I think he wants to go to a franchise that's
• 54:37
  renowned for stability, and he deserves that, especially after what happened to him.
• 54:42
  So I don't know that it's like an Eric the Enemy feeling blackballing of
• 54:45
  Flores, because I'm with you, he probably would have got some nibbles.
• 54:50
  He interviewed for the Cardinals job last year. That's what held up our entire
• 54:52
  search. So yeah, I'm gonna guess it was his own prerogative because he
• 54:57
  didn't want to deal with bullshit this time, and then maybe bring the Vikings
• 55:00
  defense into the top ten and then see what the chips fall, because like
• 55:04
  you, hey, the Cowboys job will probably be open after we all know
• 55:07
  they'll lose the playoffs before the NFC Championships, so stuff like that. Yeah,
• 55:12
  well, and you had alluded. I think one of the first time
• 55:15
  you're on the school op here that you had some information that Flores is financially
• 55:22
  doing well. Yeah, with the Vikings the highest paid defensive coordinators in the
• 55:25
  in the NFL, if not the highest. Yeah. So I'm sure it's
• 55:30
  not a money motivation for these coaches. I'm sure money. Some of these
• 55:34
  guys would even coach for free if you gave him the right opportunity. So
• 55:37
  so yeah, I wonder if it's if it's that he's waiting for the right
• 55:43
  opportunity and the right situation. Yeah, I wouldn't want to go somewhere where
• 55:47
  I knew the GM was going to be crazy and fire everybody after, you
• 55:52
  know, hiring them just months before. So yeah, and the and the
• 55:55
  Vikings have a good thing. Remember those NFLPA rankings that came out of year
• 55:59
  ago. Oh, I think we'll have another batch this year, even though
• 56:01
  they only finished seven and ten last year. They have a culture and a
• 56:06
  building and a mission statement in people that other players and coaches like coming to
• 56:09
  work for. And I don't think that's hogwashed. So you have to remember
• 56:12
  those things. Think about your own job, Like if you were making mucho
• 56:15
  de naro and somebody was dangling a title in front of you, but you
• 56:17
  had everything that you wanted with great people, you might attempt it this day.
• 56:21
  And I think that's what Flora is doing, at least for another year.
• 56:23
  Yeah, I think the only thing Minnesota doesn't have going for it is
• 56:29
  the weather. I mean, the owners seem to be ready and willing to
• 56:32
  dish out money for facilities and players whenever requisite. I mean, even the
• 56:38
  last regime of Coach and GM. Sure they were a little bit more hardcore
• 56:43
  than it feels like the current regime is, but they've always seemed to be
• 56:45
  good for players to come and play for and play with, and obviously the
• 56:51
  current regime seems to be very player friendly. I think the only thing Minnesota
• 56:54
  doesn't have is maybe property tax or income tax and the weather. If this
• 57:00
  same organization was plucked and put in like, you know, the Florida or
• 57:05
  the Carolina area like that would be just the cream of the crap. Well,
• 57:08
  I guess on that note, how we're all Vikings fans. We've seen
• 57:14
  Quac and Kevin for the last you know, I guess two full years at
• 57:19
  this point now, because they were both hired around this time in twenty twenty
• 57:23
  two, correct, so how how do we think they're doing How are we
• 57:29
  feeling as fans and obviously as people that pay a little bit more attention than
• 57:32
  just the person that turns on the game and maybe falls asleep on Sunday afternoon,
• 57:37
  Like like, we're in it. We're following everything, We listen every
• 57:40
  word. What do we feel these leadership positions are doing and are we okay
• 57:46
  with it? Take that one first West, Sure, Yeah, I think
• 57:51
  so. I think that they are doing a good job so far. They
• 57:57
  came in and they stated they wanted to do a competitive rebuild, and I
• 58:04
  think for the most part, they've remained competitive. Last year, we found
• 58:12
  a way to get competitive after such a horrendous start to the season. I
• 58:21
  mean a lot of that start to the season was shooting ourselves in our own
• 58:24
  foot, the turnovers. If the ball bounced a different way, and you
• 58:31
  know, three of those games we could have very well been four on one
• 58:35
  instead of one and four. Then we were able to sustain not having Justin
• 58:43
  Jefferson for six weeks. Yeah, and then we lost her cousins and were
• 58:51
  able to sustain that even without Justin Jefferson. Ultimately, though, the wheels
• 58:57
  fell off right after Thanksgiving, and I think that also lended its hand to
• 59:06
  maybe FLOORA is not getting as many opportunities because the well the the defense had
• 59:12
  been performing well. It's kind of I'll say the Kirk Cousin defense where October
• 59:17
  November lights out and then December came and it kind of cracked the bed.
• 59:22
  But a lot of that is just lack of talent, lack of depth in
• 59:30
  certain areas. But I think through this process they've done a good job of
• 59:38
  turning over the roster while still being able to maintain being competitive, also adding
• 59:49
  the youthful pieces that have talent, be it in the draft, free agency
• 59:54
  or undrafted free agency. Ivan paced as a testament to that. Uh.
• 1:00:00
  He had a phenomenal season last year. I I don't know if Harrison Smith
• 1:00:08
  gets brought back or not, but I hope he does. He's obviously the
• 1:00:15
  oldest player on our roster. Uh, I think so Yeah, Okay,
• 1:00:24
  everybody forgets the long snapper. Yeah, he probably likes Yeah. So I
• 1:00:32
  mean I think we have the pieces. Uh. Again, this is another
• 1:00:37
  important offseason. Was last year the results that I think any of us were
• 1:00:44
  looking for. No. But at the same time, when you take into
• 1:00:49
  account everything that transpired throughout the season. Ah, I think moves were made
• 1:00:54
  on the on the fringes to attempt to aid and help this this ball club.
• 1:01:02
  Josh Dobbs. They picked him up for was it seventh rounder? Yeah,
• 1:01:07
  I think it's essentially a free pick now. It's a free pick now,
• 1:01:10
  yeah, because he didn't mix the seventh round pick swap. Oh yeah,
• 1:01:15
  okay, And then isn't it void now because he didn't meet certain amount
• 1:01:22
  of if If if Dobbs across a certain threshold, then the Cardinals would just
• 1:01:29
  keep the sixth rounder. But now the Vikings get the seventh rounder back.
• 1:01:32
  So it was just like an NBA pick swap, just wag the hell down
• 1:01:37
  lower rounds. So I mean it. I like those types of moves.
• 1:01:43
  They they don't really cost a whole lot, but they they're done on the
• 1:01:47
  fringes in an attempt to elevate and make things work for your team. And
• 1:01:55
  for a couple of weeks they did work for the Vikings. Was fun for
• 1:02:00
  about four quarters, yeah, exactly. So I think they're doing well.
• 1:02:07
  They've had a few misses, but nobody's going to be perfect in this job,
• 1:02:12
  and and any job for that matter. So I think a lot of
• 1:02:20
  us need to just take a step back, look at it from you know,
• 1:02:24
  thirty thousand feet up and see what's being moved around the board here and
• 1:02:30
  approach it in that way. I think they're doing well. Yeah, Yeah,
• 1:02:35
  I tend to agree Evan. Any other thoughts, how do we think
• 1:02:38
  GM and coach are doing? Yeah? I mean overall, I think they
• 1:02:43
  get passing grades, both of them do. I think Quasi is going to
• 1:02:47
  be known for the competitive rebuild, whether that's successful or not, That's what
• 1:02:54
  I think he's going to be known for. He's kind of rung that bell
• 1:02:59
  time and time again, and he's come back to that philosophy a lot.
• 1:03:04
  So if it works, he's going to be known for that, and if
• 1:03:07
  it doesn't, he's going to be known for that. I think as well.
• 1:03:09
  I think the leash on Kevin O'Connell will be a little more generous.
• 1:03:15
  I think he'll be given a little more time to be successful, perhaps in
• 1:03:19
  Minnesota. And I think even if the Vikings decide to move on from him,
• 1:03:23
  I think he'll have other head coaching opportunities as well. Not to say
• 1:03:28
  that Quacy won't have opportunities beyond the Vikings, But I don't know. I'm
• 1:03:34
  usually the optimist and now I'm kind of sounding pessimistic, which is interesting.
• 1:03:38
  But yeah, that's my take. I think they're doing well. I think
• 1:03:43
  the Vikings have to give him a few more years, at least one more
• 1:03:47
  year for sure, and then you know, beyond that, I don't know,
• 1:03:52
  the proof will be in the pudding. Right. If we can find
• 1:03:55
  success, if we can make our way into the playoffs, perhaps make our
• 1:04:00
  way to that elusive NFSCY championship game, you know, then I think they've
• 1:04:05
  they've bought themselves some more time. Yeah, all right, Dustin, what
• 1:04:13
  do you think? What are they getting a passing grade from? Oh?
• 1:04:15
  Dustin? Definitely. I think one of craziest problems is he's one of the
• 1:04:20
  only general managers that has put a title on what he's doing in a competitive
• 1:04:25
  rebuild. For example, in twenty sixteen, the Chiefs quietly revamped their roster
• 1:04:30
  and they got Patrick Mahomes for it. The Bills did the same thing in
• 1:04:32
  twenty seventeen and twenty eighteen, got Josh Allen, and then the Eagles in
• 1:04:36
  twenty fourteen and twenty fifteen. That's how they ended up with Carson Wentz.
• 1:04:41
  So they were doing the rebuild gradually. It's just that they didn't have a
• 1:04:44
  title on it. And it worked. So nobody went back with to say,
• 1:04:47
  hey, you did tank, baby, what were you thinking. They
• 1:04:49
  just accepted that a gradual process worked rather than a strip it down to the
• 1:04:54
  studs type of tanking bullshit rebuild. So I think that's the difference in you
• 1:04:59
  know, what Quasy is doing in terms of like why isn't he all in
• 1:05:01
  and why isn't he tanking? He's just doing something that's been done in the
• 1:05:04
  past without a formal title. When you look at it, since those two
• 1:05:09
  took over, Quac and Kevin, the Vikings have the NFL's ninth best record
• 1:05:13
  while absolutely turning over the roster. It's just nobody really realizes it because Kirk
• 1:05:17
  Cousins is still or was still the quarterback. My friend Luke Brown tweeted last
• 1:05:23
  week all of the roster from twenty twenty two and they took over are the
• 1:05:27
  end of twenty twenty one with all of the lines crossing out the players that
• 1:05:30
  are gone, and it is one of the most dramatic overhauls in the NFL
• 1:05:32
  over the last two years. It's just we keep this stupid ass talking point
• 1:05:36
  that says, why are the Vikings running it back? Well, they're not.
• 1:05:40
  They've completely overhauled the roster. It's just we tend not to believe it
• 1:05:43
  at times. And I don't buy the narrative that you know, Kuais doesn't
• 1:05:47
  know how to draft. I think Lewis scene was beset by a grusom.
• 1:05:51
  I know he was beset by a gruesome leg injury. And I have a
• 1:05:56
  personal deadline of twenty twenty four week one to see if he's actually going to
• 1:06:00
  play. He could be a bust, but I think he deserves a little
• 1:06:02
  bit more time. And then you have Jordan Adison, which looks like a
• 1:06:05
  home run pick, but Kayle Black I think will be good. Nobody,
• 1:06:09
  for some strange reason, wants to give Quazy credit for Ivan Pace. They
• 1:06:13
  claim the general managers you know this was more of a Wilf thing. I
• 1:06:15
  don't know why they say it. Yeah, but I don't understand why we
• 1:06:19
  look at these last two drafts and we think they're all bad. I think
• 1:06:21
  they are decent, with Rube to get even better if Andrew Booth plays.
• 1:06:26
  But I will say all this, all of this stuff that we've the four
• 1:06:30
  of us have chatted. None of it matters if they swing and miss on
• 1:06:31
  the quarterback if they get to this April, or god forbid they wait till
• 1:06:36
  next April and they don't draft a guy who is I would say at least
• 1:06:43
  Dak Prescott or better. That's kind of my personal test, because otherwise you
• 1:06:45
  just have Kirk or you have something actually below Kirk. So for certain,
• 1:06:50
  if they don't nail that draft pick, Kevin O'Connell will be gone in however
• 1:06:55
  many years, and then Quaysy would probably be on the hot seat or gone
• 1:06:59
  as well. So not to say sound like a you know, a big
• 1:07:01
  you know, alarmist, but as much as I respect what they've done,
• 1:07:04
  it's all a grand march to this crescendo or climax for who they draft a
• 1:07:09
  quarterback. Yep, that's that's the lynchpin decision for this team. For Quacy
• 1:07:15
  and Kevin, it will determine their jobs kind of like you just mentioned earlier
• 1:07:19
  with the Bills GM. I mean, if if we miss this, they're
• 1:07:25
  not, it's their job. Like either way, they're either going to keep
• 1:07:28
  their jobs for the next twenty years or they're going to be out in two
• 1:07:30
  or three and we're gonna start all this over again. I think for me
• 1:07:35
  Quacy and Kevin Bolth get passing grades as well. I'm excited at what they're
• 1:07:40
  doing. They haven't hit a bullseye on every move, but nobody does.
• 1:07:43
  I think the Wilfs kind of did that mentality of like, hey, we
• 1:07:47
  we can't just do what we've always done with these hires, like we gotta
• 1:07:51
  we gotta try something different to get different results. And that's what you get
• 1:07:56
  when you hire an analytical non football guy to be your GM and a former
• 1:08:00
  player, great football mind to be your head coach. Interesting moves and so
• 1:08:06
  far, like you said, the ninth best record since they've been hired.
• 1:08:12
  That's nothing to be mad about. Yeah, I mean, I think Vikings
• 1:08:15
  fans won't be happy until we get a Super Bowl and I'm probably in that
• 1:08:21
  group as well. Just not allowed and obnoxious, you know, I hate
• 1:08:26
  everything. Well, we got a few more minutes here left. I guess
• 1:08:30
  I always kind of want to give you guys an opportunity to talk you guys
• 1:08:34
  up, give some plugs on things you've been doing or people you want to
• 1:08:40
  kind of point the direction too, So Wes, is there anything you want
• 1:08:44
  to kind of give a plug too, Maybe send our listeners to go check
• 1:08:46
  out if you're looking for fantasy content. As a Vikings fan, Cody Spears
• 1:08:53
  who Dusk and I also do another show with He's just coming on to the
• 1:08:59
  scene. He's producing some great content, so give him a follow in the
• 1:09:03
  draft. I would love to see the Vikings target. Kamani Vidal from Troy
• 1:09:10
  has a lot of Jalen Warren to his game. I think he would be
• 1:09:15
  a good complimentary back and a set of backs in that backfield. So we'll
• 1:09:20
  see how he performs at the combine. If he pops, he could be
• 1:09:26
  a riser up the board. Otherwise, the film on him looks good and
• 1:09:34
  he could be somebody that we could just throw out there. And he's not
• 1:09:40
  a home running hitting back. He gets caught from behind, but he could
• 1:09:45
  definitely turn out first down at the first down. So awesome, Dustin anything
• 1:09:49
  you want to plug really quick? An getting cut off this time? Last
• 1:09:56
  time? I feel like an idiot. Yeah. Wikey's territory dot com.
• 1:10:00
  There's a lot of great dudes who write there. Giannic Eckhart is probably the
• 1:10:03
  best because of his volume and then his attention to detail. He's from Germany.
• 1:10:09
  We have Ted Schwarzler who writes about the Twins on Twins Daily and about
• 1:10:13
  the Vikings Vikings Territory. Adam Knu he's our voice from England, Ali Sadiki.
• 1:10:17
  He kind of writes all over the place. He's settled on Vikings Territory.
• 1:10:20
  So yeah, we have a lot of good content there. Jeff Diamond
• 1:10:24
  writes a piece per week. I'm about to edit and post up his piece.
• 1:10:27
  He's the guy that drafted Randy Moss and found Chris Dolman and Chris Carter.
• 1:10:31
  Yeah, yeah, yeah, just kind of he found those last two
• 1:10:34
  dudes in the same offseasonn undrafted. It was wild. And then I want
• 1:10:39
  to formally recommend that the Vikings sign Rashid Shahed as WR three. The guy
• 1:10:43
  is going to be really affordable. He's probably gonna get a deal for two
• 1:10:45
  or three million bucks. He's an all pro punt returner. He's kind of
• 1:10:49
  a volume guy. If you get him in the mixed kind of gadgety and
• 1:10:53
  I think he would be a wonderful WR three. Soquazy if you're listening Shaheed
• 1:10:59
  new Orleans Saints. I'm on board, Evan and anything last minute here.
• 1:11:03
  No, this has been great, thanks guys for coming on. We appreciate
• 1:11:06
  it. Yeah, yeah, it's been awesome. Thank you guys so much.
• 1:11:11
  Dustin West, we'd love to have you guys back on anytime. It's
• 1:11:15
  our official welcome anytime you want, and Dustin, any of the guys you
• 1:11:18
  just named, Wes the guy you named, we'd love to have anybody on.
• 1:11:23
  I like talking Vikings and talking to everybody else. So I've had a
• 1:11:27
  blast. I hope you guys have had fun. Hopefully our listeners have had
• 1:11:30
  fun as well, and we didn't get cut off. Good job, guys,
• 1:11:40
  All right, welcome back. I hope you enjoyed that interview with Dustin,
• 1:11:43
  and it was fun getting to know Wes as well through that interview.
• 1:11:47
  So yeah, good stuff and some good beer here, great beer. I
• 1:11:53
  like this a lot. Yeah, oh yeah, I like it. That's
• 1:11:56
  I just got to give my generic, you know, reaction for Miranda.
• 1:12:00
  At least she'll never hear this. But yeah, I do like this a
• 1:12:02
  lot. I say it every time I'm waiting for the day that I'm like,
• 1:12:08
  oh, this is a nasty beer, because then it'll be like,
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  oh, you know, Austin's selling the truth, like I am telling the
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  truth. This is a good beer. I've had my eye on some beer,
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  not that it probably won't be bad, yeah, but it's definitely like
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  way outside of our wheelhouse, and one of these days I'm gonna do it
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  and we're just gonna have to deal with it. Maybe maybe if the Vikings
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  just have like a another forty to nothing loss and it's like, you know
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  what, misery loves come, Yeah, we have earned this by way of
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  Maybe that'd be a good time. Or like if they don't do anything
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  hates us, might as well have a beer that hates us too, you
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  know. But then we run the risk of like, oh, hey,
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  I Brewery, like your beer is terrible. I think what all of this
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  is telling us is that there's some really good beer that's brewed in Iowa.
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  That's true. We have yet to have had a bad Iowa beer. Forrest
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  tried last week with the Grange Hemp beer he tried, I mean, I
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  think he knew it wouldn't be like garbage, but he also heard me say
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  the week before, like that four to twenty beer I had was terrible.
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  So he got something that sounded like it was in the same category and it
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  wasn't bad. It was pretty It was pretty good beer. I liked that.
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  Yeah, so I don't know, maybe maybe it's me. I don't.
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  I just like beer other than the couple that I didn't like. But
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  this one, the Lucky Irish Red Gazelleg we Zelig Lucky Irish Red. We
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  need more of those beers, Gazelleg's beers. Yep. Did you get that
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  at our regular spot? Yep? Ive nice. So yeah, we'll definitely
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  be trying some more Gazelic beer in the future. And I will, and
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