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- 0:06Speaker 1: Drama, Darling Drama, Darling.
- 0:15Speaker 2: Drama, Darling. Hello, Hello, Darlings. Today is the Secret Lives
- 0:25Speaker 2: of Mormon Wives Day. Emily Daresis is with me? Are
- 0:29Speaker 2: you with us?
- 0:30Speaker 3: Emily?
- 0:30Speaker 2: Come in, Emily, I am so with you you emotionally
- 0:35Speaker 2: and physically turn around.
- 0:37Speaker 1: Audienced.
- 0:38Speaker 2: My god, she's right behind me always. You remember that
- 0:43Speaker 2: movie Monsters, Inc. And his name is like Ras and she's.
- 0:46Speaker 3: Like always watching you know that character. Yeah, Oh I
- 0:52Speaker 3: love that. She's like a snail or whatever with the paperwork.
- 0:56Speaker 2: Mattie went through a monster's ink phase of horse, as
- 1:01Speaker 2: all people do. And we have like all the characters
- 1:05Speaker 2: and we'd like slide that around and she'd be like, ah,
- 1:08Speaker 2: wait walking It was so cute.
- 1:13Speaker 3: Oh how they grow so big? Now? AnyWho?
- 1:17Speaker 2: Okay, you guys, we're talking, uh Secret Lives of Mormon Wives.
- 1:22Speaker 2: And before we like full on get into the recap,
- 1:26Speaker 2: we have something to talk about.
- 1:27Speaker 3: What happened?
- 1:29Speaker 1: God, we should say we're doing episode one through three
- 1:31Speaker 1: season four, we should say.
- 1:34Speaker 2: We should say that, but we're not going to. No,
- 1:37Speaker 2: don't say we're not going to say it. They'll figure
- 1:40Speaker 2: it out and then by the end of the show
- 1:41Speaker 2: they'll be like, well, what happened they stopped episode three?
- 1:47Speaker 2: Why okay, you guys were doing episodes one through three
- 1:51Speaker 2: because we need to, like, you know, milk this and
- 1:54Speaker 2: enjoy it for what it's worth. They're putting it out
- 1:57Speaker 2: like every single time I start this show, and like
- 2:00Speaker 2: they are living their lives in fast motion. The amount
- 2:04Speaker 2: of stuff that happens in this group of Mormons or
- 2:08Speaker 2: ex Mormons, you just can't wrap your head around it.
- 2:12Speaker 1: And it's all back to back because it's like we're
- 2:15Speaker 1: on the heel. So the last season we haven't even
- 2:17Speaker 1: filmed the reunion yet. Like, I'm so confused getting into this,
- 2:21Speaker 1: Like when do we all make up?
- 2:23Speaker 3: I don't know.
- 2:24Speaker 2: I have to say, like, as we're going along, we're
- 2:27Speaker 2: just gonna have to pretend like we know what the
- 2:30Speaker 2: timeline is, because if we actually stop and try to
- 2:33Speaker 2: do the math, it's going to be more complicated.
- 2:35Speaker 1: I did the math.
- 2:36Speaker 2: I did the math too. I didn't do it on paper,
- 2:38Speaker 2: but I did it in my head.
- 2:41Speaker 1: All I have is they primarily film this during the
- 2:44Speaker 1: fall of twenty twenty five, and they wrapped up in
- 2:46Speaker 1: late November or early December twenty twenty five. And I
- 2:51Speaker 1: know that maybe we'll get there. It's just that I
- 2:53Speaker 1: had to in my head be like when did Jesse
- 2:55Speaker 1: drop that thing about Demi and the peed, Like I'm.
- 2:59Speaker 2: So we're not gonna do that math on it because
- 3:01Speaker 2: I think that we'll just get too much in the
- 3:03Speaker 2: weeds and we're just gonna go along with you know,
- 3:05Speaker 2: as the show leads us and kind of folds in,
- 3:09Speaker 2: it's kind of like time. It sort of folds in
- 3:11Speaker 2: on itself. It's sort of like the the Secret Lives
- 3:14Speaker 2: of Mormon Wise, they're kind of like in a black hole,
- 3:16Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying. Time and space are becoming one.
- 3:20Speaker 2: As they're filming season and they're filming a season while
- 3:25Speaker 2: they're filming a reunion, and then they go into filming
- 3:27Speaker 2: and then that reunion turns into the filming of the
- 3:30Speaker 2: other filming of the season of the filming of the reunion,
- 3:34Speaker 2: and so that's it's to become. You know what it is,
- 3:37Speaker 2: it's quantum physics, that is right.
- 3:39Speaker 1: It's diverse, it is Time doesn't wait for anyone.
- 3:43Speaker 2: No, Okay, how about we take a little detour into
- 3:47Speaker 2: Stephen Hawking, you know, and see what he has to
- 3:49Speaker 2: say about the Secret Lives of Mormon.
- 3:51Speaker 1: Oh yeah, quantum physics.
- 3:53Speaker 2: He's gonna speak on it. He's gonna speak on it,
- 3:57Speaker 2: Speak on it.
- 3:58Speaker 3: Daven Okay, Daven.
- 4:03Speaker 4: Okay, Dark Holes, Dark Holes.
- 4:05Speaker 2: We are going to look at this season of the
- 4:08Speaker 2: Secret Lives of Mormon Wives in a quantum Phisics kind
- 4:12Speaker 2: of way. So before we get into episodes one through three,
- 4:18Speaker 2: let's discuss what's happening in the world of Taylor Frankie
- 4:22Speaker 2: Paul today, because you know, she is the leader. She
- 4:25Speaker 2: is the leader of mom talk, which was made very
- 4:29Speaker 2: clear in episode three of season four by Jesse so
- 4:35Speaker 2: Emilay m hm. We got word from TMC. Yeah, apparently
- 4:42Speaker 2: they have ceased filming as of right now due to
- 4:47Speaker 2: an upset between Dakota and Taylor. They have a custody
- 4:53Speaker 2: court battle that's happening, and the headline says custody court
- 4:58Speaker 2: battle blew up months. But as they've been duking it
- 5:02Speaker 2: out in court, so they say something happened. I would
- 5:08Speaker 2: say the shiit hit the fan in some way.
- 5:10Speaker 3: We don't know.
- 5:11Speaker 2: They didn't specify, but producers decided to shut down production temporarily. Temporarily.
- 5:18Speaker 2: This is according to TMZ, and I guess Dakota went
- 5:23Speaker 2: to court over custody and support of their son Ever
- 5:26Speaker 2: back in June twenty twenty five. Then Taylor filed their
- 5:29Speaker 2: response and a counterclaim a couple of weeks later, and
- 5:33Speaker 2: it looks like a proposed order on custody support and
- 5:37Speaker 2: parenting time was filed in the case around September, But
- 5:40Speaker 2: in December court docs were filed regarding Dakota's income. Then
- 5:45Speaker 2: there wasn't any movement, and then within the last couple
- 5:50Speaker 2: of weeks they're reporting that some drama has exploded and
- 5:56Speaker 2: they have shut down the show temporarily.
- 6:00Speaker 1: You know, honestly, they could use a break, because what
- 6:03Speaker 1: we what that is saying is they're already filming season five.
- 6:07Speaker 2: So they went and they filmed season four, which we
- 6:10Speaker 2: are now watching, and they went and probably did that reunion.
- 6:13Speaker 2: But before they even did the reunion, they probably already
- 6:16Speaker 2: continued filming, just like this season. Just like this season,
- 6:21Speaker 2: they're white age. It's too much weight, Yeah, it's too much.
- 6:24Speaker 1: They are making it like all that the housewives have
- 6:27Speaker 1: breaks because there are other cities to do it.
- 6:29Speaker 2: This is too much, well too much, and their lives
- 6:33Speaker 2: are in such chaos all the time, and not even
- 6:36Speaker 2: necessarily bad chaos, but like even good chaos. You know,
- 6:39Speaker 2: you get babies, and you get Broadway babies in Broadway?
- 6:43Speaker 3: What else do you need?
- 6:44Speaker 2: You know? Dirty sodas. By the way, did you know
- 6:50Speaker 2: that dirty sodas are? Like now they've made their way
- 6:53Speaker 2: into other states?
- 6:55Speaker 1: What do you are we talking about? Like swig and
- 6:59Speaker 1: putting flavors in your soda? Okay, we're not talking about.
- 7:05Speaker 2: No, we're not talking about the fruit loop scandal. Okay,
- 7:07Speaker 2: dirty soda is the worst name for the exact thing
- 7:11Speaker 2: that you just said, because you say dirty soda to
- 7:15Speaker 2: me disgusting and I'm thinking about someone pison, you know.
- 7:20Speaker 1: Yes, yes, And that is why we I mean honestly,
- 7:24Speaker 1: like I really think that because of Mormon wives. I
- 7:27Speaker 1: don't think that because of any I mean, I mean, yeah,
- 7:30Speaker 1: I guess I kind of would have thought about now
- 7:32Speaker 1: I really think.
- 7:33Speaker 2: Oh no, yeah, because it's also like the soaking thing,
- 7:37Speaker 2: and it's like, oh do you want to soaking soda?
- 7:39Speaker 3: Like gross, what are you guys doing? Stop it?
- 7:41Speaker 2: Mormons? Like I'm kidding, Mormons, I'm kidding.
- 7:44Speaker 3: But like it's it's everywhere.
- 7:47Speaker 2: Okay. So I was at BJ's last night.
- 7:52Speaker 1: Oh yeah, this is kidding, worse disgusting.
- 7:58Speaker 2: I can't even Okay, we went to see Hoppers. Okay, okay,
- 8:03Speaker 2: that's a kid's movie.
- 8:04Speaker 3: Relax.
- 8:05Speaker 1: Not the toilet, not the toilet, keep going?
- 8:08Speaker 3: Is a toilet in Britain?
- 8:12Speaker 1: Got to use the hopper in growing up? In growing up, yeah,
- 8:17Speaker 1: we called it that on the East Coast.
- 8:19Speaker 2: Really, I never heard that before, got to use the hopper?
- 8:24Speaker 3: Wow? No, I never heard that.
- 8:28Speaker 1: Well, welcome, welcome in.
- 8:31Speaker 3: No, I don't like it. I'm kidding. We all have
- 8:39Speaker 3: our stuff, you know what I mean.
- 8:40Speaker 2: I mean we had had so basically, dirty sodas are
- 8:47Speaker 2: taking over. Were at Bjay's last night and they're on
- 8:50Speaker 2: the menu, all these little sodas popping up with like
- 8:55Speaker 2: there's just a bunch of shit in this soda, you know, dirty.
- 8:59Speaker 2: It says dirty soda on the menu.
- 9:02Speaker 1: And you get all those pumps in the back, all
- 9:04Speaker 1: the flavor pumps.
- 9:06Speaker 2: Interesting, you know, I didn't get my eyes on the
- 9:09Speaker 2: flavor pumps, but I imagine that's what's happening behind the scenes,
- 9:12Speaker 2: you know. Yeah, although BJ's is kind of a forward
- 9:15Speaker 2: facing bar, I imagine, but we were outside. Listen, this is
- 9:19Speaker 2: taking a detour or The point is is that the
- 9:22Speaker 2: Mormon effect, the Secret Lives of Mormon wives effect, is happening,
- 9:26Speaker 2: and it's taking over mom talk. Okay, So basically we
- 9:33Speaker 2: now know that they are taking a pause from filming,
- 9:37Speaker 2: and surprise, surprise, it's because of the drama between Dakota
- 9:42Speaker 2: and of course Taylor. Now we should welcome ourselves into
- 9:47Speaker 2: the official recap of episodes one through three. Hi hi, hi, hi, Hello, hello,
- 9:56Speaker 2: thanks good, How you doing? As we're talking about Taylor
- 10:01Speaker 2: and Dakota, this is what we're gonna do. We're gonna
- 10:05Speaker 2: kind of go through maybe each couple and each friend.
- 10:07Speaker 2: You know, We're gonna kind of do these in clumps.
- 10:09Speaker 2: We're not gonna go chronologically through each episode.
- 10:11Speaker 1: You can't, you can't, you won't. I didn't, Okay.
- 10:20Speaker 2: So basically we've got we've got these funking guys go
- 10:25Speaker 2: into the villa, okay, which we're gonna circle back to.
- 10:29Speaker 2: We're gonna land there, Emily, don't you worry?
- 10:31Speaker 3: Okay?
- 10:33Speaker 1: Good?
- 10:34Speaker 4: I hate Jordan.
- 10:35Speaker 1: Keep going.
- 10:35Speaker 3: I hate Jordan. I hate Jordan. Okay.
- 10:40Speaker 2: So then they come back from the villa and none
- 10:43Speaker 2: of these guys can keep their mouth shut, which is great,
- 10:46Speaker 2: and that's what we want, of course, but Jordan is like.
- 10:50Speaker 3: I won't.
- 10:51Speaker 2: I'll have to keep this one hundred with my wife,
- 10:53Speaker 2: and I'm gonna tell her everything despite any of you.
- 10:57Speaker 2: And so he's like, he had a three way kid,
- 11:00Speaker 2: which is so he didn't exactly say he had sex yet, Dakotakota.
- 11:06Speaker 2: He didn't say he had sex yet, but he told
- 11:08Speaker 2: Jesse that he had a three way kiss, and he
- 11:11Speaker 2: told mikaylab At right, So we told him that in
- 11:12Speaker 2: the kitchen. Then it Then later he told Jesse that
- 11:17Speaker 2: he had sex at the villa.
- 11:20Speaker 3: I don't know where in the villa. I don't care.
- 11:22Speaker 3: I don't need to know.
- 11:24Speaker 2: So then we find out that this is gonna make
- 11:29Speaker 2: its way, you know, back to Taylor, and it sure
- 11:32Speaker 2: does when she comes. What a weird scene she comes over.
- 11:36Speaker 2: I don't know how they lured her there, I can't remember,
- 11:39Speaker 2: but they're up in a closet.
- 11:41Speaker 3: Oh a dress.
- 11:42Speaker 1: Dresses for the reunion for season three.
- 11:46Speaker 3: Three thank you.
- 11:48Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 11:49Speaker 3: I kind of loved.
- 11:52Speaker 1: That. She's like, can I borrow a dress?
- 11:53Speaker 5: Like?
- 11:54Speaker 1: I like he was like borrowing a dress?
- 11:57Speaker 2: I little it too, Emily, Yeah, I loved it too,
- 12:01Speaker 2: and she's like, I pulled some options and I'm like, Jesus,
- 12:05Speaker 2: you have a lot of options.
- 12:07Speaker 3: Yes, dang, okay.
- 12:10Speaker 2: So Taylor's up there, she's like okay, So Jordan's in
- 12:13Speaker 2: this walk in like run in closet. The thing is
- 12:18Speaker 2: like enormous because that's what you can get in Utah.
- 12:20Speaker 3: Apparently laps.
- 12:22Speaker 1: You can do laps, and you.
- 12:23Speaker 3: Can do laps.
- 12:24Speaker 2: It's a lap in uh closet, lap closet. It's a
- 12:26Speaker 2: lap closet. So you're in there and Jordan's like behind
- 12:30Speaker 2: the island, which you have, of course, and Jesse's just
- 12:33Speaker 2: sitting in like a recliner, and Taylor's like, what this
- 12:39Speaker 2: is weird? Like this is weird right because you can
- 12:41Speaker 2: just get catch the vibes. And then finally Jordan's like, well,
- 12:44Speaker 2: you know how I ah told you that I wasn't
- 12:46Speaker 2: going to say anything about how you and that Ben
- 12:50Speaker 2: and you know Ben and Ben's in your life, and
- 12:52Speaker 2: you know I promised you I wouldn't say that. And
- 12:53Speaker 2: she's like, oh great, he said it to Dakota and
- 12:56Speaker 2: he's like, well I didn't, and she's like she is
- 13:00Speaker 2: so quick that she goes, what did Dakota do did
- 13:04Speaker 2: he sleep with someone in the villa? I was like,
- 13:06Speaker 2: how did you get from that to Dakota slept with
- 13:11Speaker 2: someone in the villa? She knew, she instantly knew.
- 13:15Speaker 1: Well, I also think like she probably had to know immediately,
- 13:21Speaker 1: you know what I mean?
- 13:21Speaker 3: Like, but when at what point?
- 13:23Speaker 1: At what point when they booked the trip?
- 13:28Speaker 2: Right, she probably knew it was going to happen deep down,
- 13:33Speaker 2: but she was also completely shocked. I mean you have
- 13:36Speaker 2: to like look at it from her perspective in a
- 13:37Speaker 2: way where you're like, you know, he goes low real fast, right,
- 13:42Speaker 2: but to go somewhere and then like to sleep with
- 13:44Speaker 2: someone on TV for the world to see, is I'm
- 13:52Speaker 2: so messy. It's so dirty soda.
- 13:54Speaker 1: I am still it is dirty soda. I am still
- 13:57Speaker 1: reeling from literally the re union that is about to
- 14:01Speaker 1: film and last season when we which is like weeks ago,
- 14:07Speaker 1: he's fucking around with her mom's friend, and now he
- 14:11Speaker 1: set the villa fucking on camera. Like, I don't know
- 14:15Speaker 1: what else we need?
- 14:16Speaker 2: His death show tailor well, I think we needed those
- 14:19Speaker 2: two things. I think you know, she she's she's the
- 14:23Speaker 2: kind of person that needs to go to the depths
- 14:27Speaker 2: of like the worst possible equation in order to like
- 14:32Speaker 2: either learn that lesson or to finally feel like she
- 14:34Speaker 2: can move on. And I feel like those things needed
- 14:38Speaker 2: to happen, you know.
- 14:40Speaker 1: But I'm also like, and I'm not a Dakota fan
- 14:42Speaker 1: at all.
- 14:43Speaker 3: Oh, I don't understand.
- 14:44Speaker 2: I know you you're wearing a se me and all
- 14:47Speaker 2: the guys like I feel like I went to the
- 14:49Speaker 2: villa because like when all the guys came back from
- 14:50Speaker 2: the villa and they're like they love Dakota so much,
- 14:53Speaker 2: I'm like, finally someone gets it.
- 14:54Speaker 6: You know.
- 14:55Speaker 1: He's so funny, like we could like my stomach hurts
- 14:58Speaker 1: from laughing.
- 14:59Speaker 4: Oh what a what a character?
- 15:01Speaker 1: You know?
- 15:02Speaker 2: Anyway, go on, you're not a Dakota fan, but.
- 15:05Speaker 1: Well, I'm just pointing out Taylor is going on the
- 15:09Speaker 1: Bachelor's I'm kind of like, well, it's kind of fair
- 15:14Speaker 1: game what happened at the villa. I'm still upset about
- 15:17Speaker 1: him fucking around with the mom friend or family friend
- 15:20Speaker 1: or whatever that was. I thought I thought that was
- 15:24Speaker 1: like we are done done at that point, and that's
- 15:26Speaker 1: what yeah, is still.
- 15:28Speaker 2: Like that was the thing that was like we're done
- 15:31Speaker 2: done now you you're right it was like, now you've
- 15:34Speaker 2: made it to the family. You couldn't do anything worse
- 15:38Speaker 2: than to destroy a family unit, right, Yeah, and then
- 15:44Speaker 2: trust is gone.
- 15:45Speaker 1: It's so far away from us.
- 15:47Speaker 2: So she kind of like moved on. But it was
- 15:49Speaker 2: only three months that she moved on because she said
- 15:52Speaker 2: three months, so we know that, right. So they weren't
- 15:55Speaker 2: technically together for three months and then the villa thing happened.
- 16:02Speaker 2: But the problem is is that he keeps telling her
- 16:06Speaker 2: all this stuff like I love you, like I want
- 16:08Speaker 2: to be a family when she tries to go away,
- 16:11Speaker 2: so he never really lets her go. He always keeps
- 16:14Speaker 2: going after her. He sort of pursues her. I mean,
- 16:16Speaker 2: he respects her wishes that they need to separate and
- 16:19Speaker 2: that she's going to move on from him and all
- 16:21Speaker 2: this stuff, but he still is trying to love bomb
- 16:25Speaker 2: her in these ways and he gets her every time,
- 16:27Speaker 2: whether she acknowledges it or not.
- 16:30Speaker 3: And then you realize that.
- 16:32Speaker 2: She believes it when she's heartbroken again by something that
- 16:36Speaker 2: he did, because she is crying her ever loving heart out.
- 16:40Speaker 3: I mean, you just feel so bad.
- 16:41Speaker 1: Yeah, she could book the bachelorette for the next ten
- 16:45Speaker 1: years straight. And I think Dakota could worm his way
- 16:48Speaker 1: in on only Wednesday, and we're right back at square one.
- 16:52Speaker 3: Lonely Wednesday. You know I'm going to costo.
- 16:56Speaker 1: You know that's my best EMO band, Lonely Wednesday.
- 17:02Speaker 2: It is, it is. You talk about it a lot.
- 17:04Speaker 2: What are you guys touring next?
- 17:06Speaker 1: Oh man, we just want to get it. We just
- 17:08Speaker 1: want to get a song together. Man, we just can't
- 17:10Speaker 1: even get that together. But like a.
- 17:13Speaker 2: Guess, are a mess, total mess.
- 17:20Speaker 3: Start with this as your beat. Okay, we all have
- 17:25Speaker 3: only one day.
- 17:29Speaker 2: By the way, their dresses in the opening sequence of this,
- 17:33Speaker 2: the blue ones, I think they're designed by Betsy Johnson,
- 17:36Speaker 2: like custom.
- 17:39Speaker 1: I'm sorry, I didn't know. I didn't know that.
- 17:42Speaker 2: I read an article, I saw a headline. I don't
- 17:45Speaker 2: know if I'm one hundred percent sure it's Betsy Johnson.
- 17:47Speaker 1: That's the new I read a book. I just like,
- 17:50Speaker 1: read a headline, read the back of the jacket. I
- 17:53Speaker 1: read it. It's like, yeah, I read a headline, I
- 17:55Speaker 1: read a headpoint, I read an article, I read a headline.
- 17:57Speaker 4: I read a tweet.
- 18:01Speaker 1: Oh Amy's really in the weeds on her research.
- 18:05Speaker 3: I love a little R and D.
- 18:06Speaker 2: So anyway, she is so destroyed by this news about
- 18:12Speaker 2: the villa, and is it like any worse than him
- 18:17Speaker 2: getting with someone in her family. No, it's actually not
- 18:19Speaker 2: as bad, you know, but like to her because she's
- 18:24Speaker 2: on camera a lot, you know what I mean, she's
- 18:25Speaker 2: tiktoking left and right, and she's on this show. So
- 18:29Speaker 2: in a way, she's like, Oh, you came into my world,
- 18:33Speaker 2: which is you know, TV, and then you made a
- 18:37Speaker 2: fool of me on TV. That's almost worse than making
- 18:42Speaker 2: a fool of me and my own family. So I
- 18:43Speaker 2: feel like that's the way that she's seeing it. I
- 18:46Speaker 2: don't know, I'm just trying to come up with some stuff.
- 18:48Speaker 2: Even know what I'm saying.
- 18:49Speaker 1: It is hard because again, we're fucking with timelines that
- 18:52Speaker 1: don't exist in a normal human brain. And so that's
- 18:56Speaker 1: why I'm just like, when did you guys fix any
- 19:00Speaker 1: of this? You are pissed your family came out and
- 19:03Speaker 1: screamed at him right at the reunion, But it did.
- 19:08Speaker 2: And I can't trust can't trust the fucking thing you say.
- 19:12Speaker 2: I can't trust a motherfucking anything you say. Deco, fucking uh,
- 19:16Speaker 2: like her dad was putting f bombs where they don't
- 19:19Speaker 2: belong and it was amazing.
- 19:21Speaker 1: He's a tough guy.
- 19:23Speaker 3: Oh, he's so tough, a tough guy. You know.
- 19:25Speaker 2: Finally he comes around after all these years, and I
- 19:29Speaker 2: still am I'm still going to be mad at him
- 19:31Speaker 2: for life after that. Why knock that outdoor picnic table? Anyway,
- 19:36Speaker 2: So point being, she's destroyed, she goes and gets a
- 19:42Speaker 2: breast augmentation and comes out and is just crying on
- 19:46Speaker 2: the table, you know, in her recovery room. Because here
- 19:50Speaker 2: she is just broken hearted and her mom's there looking great.
- 19:55Speaker 2: Her face is settled a little more, and you know,
- 19:59Speaker 2: so we can see little bit more empathy on her
- 20:01Speaker 2: face and stuff.
- 20:02Speaker 3: So that's good.
- 20:03Speaker 2: So, but getting back to what you said about the Bachelorette, Okay,
- 20:10Speaker 2: I understand what you were saying about that, like, yeah,
- 20:13Speaker 2: the deal's off, she's going to the bachelorette. A couple things.
- 20:16Speaker 2: One would Dakota have even known that she even got
- 20:19Speaker 2: that job at that point, because I feel like he
- 20:22Speaker 2: was at the villa when she got it. Or look,
- 20:27Speaker 2: this is spacetime continuum that we cannot keep up with.
- 20:30Speaker 2: So you do think that he knew before he went
- 20:32Speaker 2: to the villa that she was going to be the bachelorette.
- 20:35Speaker 1: I'm gonna say yes, but I'm not sure.
- 20:37Speaker 2: Let's just say he didn't know. It's still shitty what
- 20:41Speaker 2: he did. And also it's different, because different than the Bachelor,
- 20:45Speaker 2: because really you're not going to the villa to find love.
- 20:49Speaker 3: You're going to the villa to.
- 20:52Speaker 2: You know, get some villa do get some dirty soda, right,
- 20:55Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying. You're going there for that.
- 20:59Speaker 2: So what the bachelorette, even though you're not leaving with love.
- 21:04Speaker 2: You know, you're leaving with like a proposal, like you know,
- 21:07Speaker 2: maybe a Neil Lane ring on your finger, and then
- 21:10Speaker 2: you're looking down two months of like press and then
- 21:12Speaker 2: a breakup. I mean, that's pretty much where you're gonna go. However,
- 21:17Speaker 2: the intention is to find love. You're putting the work
- 21:20Speaker 2: in to find someone who's compatible with you, and that's
- 21:23Speaker 2: really just like an opportunity for you as a personality
- 21:28Speaker 2: and as a star to be showcased.
- 21:31Speaker 3: And so he could.
- 21:32Speaker 2: Have gone to the villa and been had the same opportunity,
- 21:36Speaker 2: but he didn't have to sleep with anybody. That's what
- 21:38Speaker 2: I'm saying. It's like, no matter how you slice it,
- 21:41Speaker 2: he's still a pos and the fact that he did
- 21:45Speaker 2: that on camera is so dirty soda.
- 21:49Speaker 1: It is so dirty soda. Also, Taylor is flying in
- 21:53Speaker 1: random TikTok country musicians to her home, literally at the
- 21:59Speaker 1: airport or pick up drop off at Dakota's. So I
- 22:03Speaker 1: guess that's why I'm kind of like, I get, I
- 22:05Speaker 1: get what you're saying, but I kind of think like
- 22:09Speaker 1: he should have had more. There's a there's a level
- 22:12Speaker 1: of respect he should have had, but he didn't have
- 22:15Speaker 1: to have. Well, she's fucking that guy from Countrytown, USA,
- 22:22Speaker 1: TikTok that she's flown in, Yes, allegedly, Listen, I am
- 22:29Speaker 1: over here defending. Don't you dare defend that motherfucker again?
- 22:35Speaker 1: He is he went over there.
- 22:38Speaker 3: He did not, He should not. He did not.
- 22:40Speaker 2: He should not have done that, And that's just so
- 22:42Speaker 2: nasty of him. Nasty. She can fly in anybody. I
- 22:46Speaker 2: don't care who she flies in, but she's gonna have
- 22:49Speaker 2: more decorum than he is. Okay, let's talk about ben
- 22:53Speaker 2: in this guy. So she slides into his live Okay, yeah, girl,
- 23:00Speaker 2: what are you doing? That's how she and Dakota met.
- 23:03Speaker 2: That's how she and Dakota met. Taylor lives and breathes TikTok,
- 23:08Speaker 2: and that is a problem. That's where she shows her
- 23:12Speaker 2: you know, her life, but she also begins relationships.
- 23:16Speaker 3: You know.
- 23:16Speaker 2: That's how she met Dakota. But I think he slid
- 23:20Speaker 2: into her DMS and then she like entertained it, right,
- 23:24Speaker 2: But now she's taken it to the next step, which
- 23:27Speaker 2: is you're popping into someone's live and you're just like, hey,
- 23:31Speaker 2: can you play this?
- 23:32Speaker 1: And as they said, like, he looks just like Dakota,
- 23:35Speaker 1: except for he has a mustache.
- 23:37Speaker 2: Yeah, he's on like a different speed, you know.
- 23:40Speaker 1: Yeah, it's like Snoopy's cousin with a mustache.
- 23:42Speaker 3: He's the same person, Yeah, exactly.
- 23:47Speaker 2: But this guy and then he's sitting with all these people,
- 23:50Speaker 2: all these gals of mom talk in that living room,
- 23:52Speaker 2: and he's just like, oh, yep, oh I.
- 23:59Speaker 1: That's how I know they're not taking it slow. Like
- 24:01Speaker 1: she's just like, get over here and film with this
- 24:04Speaker 1: guy and immediately give him a platform.
- 24:08Speaker 2: Yeah, she's not making smart decisions and I'm going to
- 24:12Speaker 2: say it and I did.
- 24:14Speaker 1: Yeah, And she wouldn't need to make smart decisions if
- 24:18Speaker 1: she didn't have this Dakota shit. Like, so that's kind
- 24:23Speaker 1: of where I'm at. I'm like, I want her to
- 24:24Speaker 1: be able to be young and dumb and make dumb decisions.
- 24:27Speaker 1: I loved that for her, except for Dakota with the
- 24:31Speaker 1: kid is going to make that really hard. And I
- 24:34Speaker 1: do wonder with the pausing or whatever. I wonder if
- 24:38Speaker 1: he's requested film footage or something. And that's why Hulu's like,
- 24:42Speaker 1: we're going to pause because we don't want to be
- 24:44Speaker 1: a part of Discovery in some way. Like I have
- 24:46Speaker 1: no idea what that's about.
- 24:48Speaker 3: But I'm just saying, why are you talking about?
- 24:51Speaker 1: What are you what are you attacking? I'm just saying
- 24:54Speaker 1: I don't know why.
- 24:55Speaker 3: Oh Ben Ben wants footage. No, I'm kidding Dakota.
- 24:59Speaker 1: Yeah, Ben wants it for is real.
- 25:00Speaker 3: Yeah, because he.
- 25:01Speaker 2: Did some of that footage where I'm sitting with all
- 25:04Speaker 2: those those talks they're called mom talk. Yeah, okay, And
- 25:09Speaker 2: then I want to send it to Dollywood because I'm
- 25:13Speaker 2: thinking about, you know, opening up for another you know,
- 25:17Speaker 2: national only Wednesday.
- 25:19Speaker 3: Only Wednesday's lonely Wednesday.
- 25:23Speaker 1: But yeah, I just think like Taylor's going to be
- 25:26Speaker 1: paying because of fucking Dakota. Any mistakes she makes, she's
- 25:31Speaker 1: going to be paying for at times ten and that
- 25:32Speaker 1: I feel bad about that.
- 25:34Speaker 3: She's making the same mistake.
- 25:36Speaker 4: Well, that's also true.
- 25:38Speaker 2: It's the same thing you cannot tell me. Like, girl,
- 25:43Speaker 2: it's not that you can't meet cool people on TikTok.
- 25:45Speaker 2: You probably can mm hmm, but you probably.
- 25:49Speaker 3: Shouldn't right now, you know what I mean?
- 25:51Speaker 2: Yeah?
- 25:51Speaker 1: No, I agree.
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- 35:08Speaker 2: don't we discuss Marciano and of course Demi? So now
- 35:16Speaker 2: in real time, you guys, look okay, So between episodes
- 35:19Speaker 2: one and three, we know that you know, Demi alleges
- 35:24Speaker 2: that she like was essayed by Marciano and that they
- 35:31Speaker 2: only kissed, and that whatever happened next was like not
- 35:38Speaker 2: she was not inviting it and she didn't want it.
- 35:41Speaker 2: Am I correct when I say those words.
- 35:43Speaker 1: I think that that is that is accurate?
- 35:45Speaker 3: Okay?
- 35:45Speaker 2: Thank you allegedly allegedly and so now Marciano has denied this,
- 35:51Speaker 2: and that's when we're watching the show, and and he's
- 35:55Speaker 2: filed a lawsuit against Demi and the producer alleging that
- 36:01Speaker 2: her statements are false and like that his reputation is
- 36:04Speaker 2: you know, so on and so forth. Right, So, in
- 36:07Speaker 2: real time we have a verdict on the producer's end
- 36:15Speaker 2: of the lawsuit, which is that that has been right
- 36:18Speaker 2: dropped because he does not have any footing because he
- 36:23Speaker 2: signed a contract saying and this is like kind of
- 36:28Speaker 2: boilerplate reality TV contract where you essentially say you agree
- 36:33Speaker 2: and you sign on the dotted line too. Yeah, this
- 36:36Speaker 2: person can humiliate me. This person can allege things about
- 36:40Speaker 2: me that aren't true. This person can lie about me
- 36:42Speaker 2: on TV. They can make me look bad. You sign
- 36:47Speaker 2: away everything when you go on a reality show. Yes,
- 36:53Speaker 2: so to a point, and mostly if you are kind
- 36:57Speaker 2: of newer now, if you've been in the reality TV
- 37:00Speaker 2: aim for a long time, you're gonna get a lawyer
- 37:02Speaker 2: to come in here, and then they might be able
- 37:03Speaker 2: to negotiate certain things. But for the most part, that's
- 37:08Speaker 2: like the boiler plate standard. So anyway that one in
- 37:12Speaker 2: this case against the producers, so he cannot see the producers,
- 37:17Speaker 2: but you know him is I don't the lawsuit against Demi.
- 37:22Speaker 2: I don't know where that stands.
- 37:24Speaker 1: Well, shout out to Bravo docket. I listened to part three.
- 37:29Speaker 1: I've listened all three, and then today I was listening
- 37:31Speaker 1: to I listened to part three and I only listened once,
- 37:34Speaker 1: and a lot of it is like I have to
- 37:36Speaker 1: listen to some of that again just to make sure
- 37:38Speaker 1: I got it right. But it's basically like there's still
- 37:41Speaker 1: the slander among the two and Demi has fired back
- 37:45Speaker 1: in terms of like, you know, you can't, you don't
- 37:48Speaker 1: sign all that paperwork and you can't and you can
- 37:51Speaker 1: and it means you can go ahead and commit a
- 37:53Speaker 1: crime and there's no consequence.
- 37:55Speaker 2: But the thing is like, right this criminal right exactly? Yeah,
- 38:00Speaker 2: it's not a criminal case. She never called the police,
- 38:03Speaker 2: So if she would have called the police and in
- 38:06Speaker 2: that situation called nine one one whatever and reported something
- 38:09Speaker 2: that's different, she would have had grounds, right.
- 38:13Speaker 1: And I mean I get and believe me, I all
- 38:16Speaker 1: day long. I get why people don't call the police
- 38:19Speaker 1: on something like that, or.
- 38:21Speaker 3: They should and they should.
- 38:22Speaker 1: Yeah, but I guess what I'm saying is it's there
- 38:27Speaker 1: are still a lot of this that is needing to
- 38:30Speaker 1: be decided. But but in terms of the reality show
- 38:34Speaker 1: contracts that do you think that they're out of it?
- 38:37Speaker 2: That's a no go. It's a no go, okay, which
- 38:41Speaker 2: totally makes sense, And that doesn't surprise me one bit.
- 38:46Speaker 1: It surprises me only because one thing that they mentioned
- 38:50Speaker 1: in the docket was that they have a hunch that
- 38:54Speaker 1: they had Mauricio Mauricio.
- 38:57Speaker 2: God, oh my god, why are you everywhere, Mauricio, Get
- 39:00Speaker 2: down from there?
- 39:01Speaker 3: Get down from the villa.
- 39:02Speaker 4: Mauricio.
- 39:03Speaker 2: Probably he probably is, Hey, guys, we're opening up on
- 39:06Speaker 2: agency and the inside of the vander Pump Villa.
- 39:14Speaker 1: Marciano, you know, comes back on in films last season
- 39:18Speaker 1: at the end of season three and the doc it
- 39:22Speaker 1: was like, wait, he had he had signed on the
- 39:24Speaker 1: vander Pump Villa side of things, but he hadn't signed
- 39:27Speaker 1: on the Mormon Wives. Think do you think that they
- 39:30Speaker 1: had they tricked him into coming on at the end
- 39:32Speaker 1: of the season just to sign those papers. So I
- 39:36Speaker 1: don't I that I want to listen to again. But
- 39:38Speaker 1: that was like.
- 39:38Speaker 2: Whoa, oh my god, yeah, yeah, wow, Okay, yeah.
- 39:45Speaker 1: So anyway, it's it's all very tricky, but reality TV
- 39:48Speaker 1: at this point, and it's not even Bravo. I mean,
- 39:50Speaker 1: this is Hulu. They all know what they're doing. And
- 39:53Speaker 1: so it's not to say, like, if you think you
- 39:56Speaker 1: have a case, you you will find a lawyer that
- 39:58Speaker 1: will try to know argue that. But you know, it
- 40:01Speaker 1: just seems you're coming up against the rocks.
- 40:05Speaker 2: You rock the Alcatraz, Alcatraz. I've been there, Yeah, I've
- 40:10Speaker 2: been there.
- 40:11Speaker 1: Did you know? Can I ask you? Was just a
- 40:13Speaker 1: sidebar because I know the darlings are dying to know.
- 40:15Speaker 3: You welcome to Alcatraz.
- 40:17Speaker 1: Talk that the guards lived on the island and there's
- 40:21Speaker 1: housing and everything like that.
- 40:23Speaker 3: Yes, I did know that.
- 40:24Speaker 1: I didn't know that till this past weekend. Bye bye, everybody.
- 40:28Speaker 2: No, no, no, no, keep talking. It's an audio podcast.
- 40:30Speaker 2: Don't mess it up.
- 40:31Speaker 3: I was it was screwing around with the graphics. Okay,
- 40:34Speaker 3: go on, Emily, Yeah.
- 40:35Speaker 1: Well that's it. I just sidebar. I learned that this
- 40:37Speaker 1: weekend and I did.
- 40:38Speaker 3: Not know that. And did you think that they commuted
- 40:42Speaker 3: from like you know that.
- 40:47Speaker 1: I thought that they escaped they all to swim in
- 40:49Speaker 1: a tunnel to get to work. I didn't know their
- 40:52Speaker 1: families all lived there. I didn't know that there was
- 40:54Speaker 1: such a virgeous residency.
- 40:57Speaker 3: Of absolutely stunning, just gorgeous.
- 41:00Speaker 1: Yeah, we're just we'rgeous California.
- 41:03Speaker 3: You got it.
- 41:04Speaker 2: Gorge anyway, Okay, I want to talk about the amazing
- 41:11Speaker 2: song we saw recorded by.
- 41:15Speaker 3: Brad and Demi weeping.
- 41:19Speaker 2: So this was one of the greatest scenes we've seen
- 41:23Speaker 2: an editor just mess with and really screw them, you know,
- 41:26Speaker 2: screw someone. I mean, you get you get messy editors,
- 41:30Speaker 2: and then you get some editors that have what feels
- 41:33Speaker 2: like this is personal, Like I need to make Demy
- 41:37Speaker 2: look as bad as possible because she personally harmed my family.
- 41:41Speaker 2: Like that's what this felt like. The way that they
- 41:45Speaker 2: dragged her was. I mean, it was art because like
- 41:52Speaker 2: and and don't get me wrong, I don't think it's
- 41:54Speaker 2: that big of a deal, Like, who cares. It's a
- 41:57Speaker 2: it's a funny joke. But at the end end of
- 42:00Speaker 2: the day, she thinks she's a good singer, and she
- 42:03Speaker 2: needs to be told she's that.
- 42:04Speaker 3: I'm sorry.
- 42:05Speaker 2: She needs she needs to have this awakening, and she
- 42:09Speaker 2: needs to she she lives in a bit of a
- 42:12Speaker 2: delusional world. Yeah, in general.
- 42:15Speaker 1: She's noting on top of being a bad singer, she's
- 42:19Speaker 1: giving notes aggressively.
- 42:23Speaker 2: The fact that she sounds as not great as she does,
- 42:27Speaker 2: and then is like micromanaging Brett when he actually is
- 42:32Speaker 2: doing a very good job.
- 42:34Speaker 1: I mean, I don't I can't speak for the whole band,
- 42:37Speaker 1: but I'm saying right now, if Lonely Wednesday Wednesday Brette
- 42:40Speaker 1: as our front man, like headlining at Dollywood, Well, I'm
- 42:46Speaker 1: just saying.
- 42:47Speaker 2: Ben would love that too, Ben would love to probably
- 42:50Speaker 2: work with you.
- 42:53Speaker 1: He was actually I've never I'm impressed.
- 42:56Speaker 2: I just was like, wow, okay, yeah, like yeah, Well
- 43:00Speaker 2: when he wasn't there were in the car and they
- 43:02Speaker 2: did the vocal warm ups. I was like, no, what
- 43:05Speaker 2: are we what are we looking at here? I was
- 43:07Speaker 2: like what is happening? And then I was like okay, okay.
- 43:12Speaker 2: So it seems like a lot of like Mormons in Utah,
- 43:19Speaker 2: they grew up singing. You know, they're singing hymns, they're
- 43:21Speaker 2: singing hers, they're singing left and they're singing songs. So
- 43:25Speaker 2: everyone probably has a singing standard that grew up like that.
- 43:31Speaker 2: That's my guess. Okay, oh yeah, heathery're gay Piere about
- 43:35Speaker 2: Heather Brittany Lisa away, and I mean she thinks she's great. Like,
- 43:42Speaker 2: so all these people are singing.
- 43:44Speaker 4: They think they're Lisa singing.
- 43:47Speaker 3: Oh we Ninger, no crip for.
- 43:52Speaker 6: His head, his head, we need a grim for this
- 44:02Speaker 6: baby's head.
- 44:06Speaker 4: Just said, okay, so face Lisa.
- 44:10Speaker 1: A crip for his head. That's gorgeous, Lisa.
- 44:14Speaker 2: So they just don't think they can sing because then
- 44:18Speaker 2: the fact that Demi like walks out and she's just.
- 44:20Speaker 3: Like, oh I needed that. Oh I need to.
- 44:23Speaker 2: I just need to shine like that, you know, everywhere,
- 44:25Speaker 2: Like I really should be doing more of that, like
- 44:27Speaker 2: and I just it's hard.
- 44:29Speaker 3: It's hard to watch. Okay.
- 44:31Speaker 2: Brett is very excited to defend Demi at this reunion,
- 44:35Speaker 2: and we saw backstage what was happening that little Zach
- 44:39Speaker 2: and Brett thing. You know, it is wild, he really does.
- 44:42Speaker 2: I mean, I'm glad he believes in his wife, and
- 44:44Speaker 2: I'm glad he's defending his wife. It would be really
- 44:46Speaker 2: weird if he wasn't. So I'm okay with that. I
- 44:49Speaker 2: don't have any problems with Brett at this point. But
- 44:54Speaker 2: except for his vocal exercises. That was just like, you know,
- 44:57Speaker 2: but I want to discuss Jen and Zach. They weren't
- 45:03Speaker 2: on the Vile Files, and Zach and Jen like because
- 45:07Speaker 2: Jen is saying, oh, yeah, Demi sat on Marciano's lap
- 45:11Speaker 2: and kissed him. So all these allegations are happening, and
- 45:15Speaker 2: Demi is basically saying, no, I didn't sit on his lap.
- 45:20Speaker 2: Nothing more happened. But Demi is owning the fact that
- 45:23Speaker 2: she kissed him. Is that correct?
- 45:27Speaker 1: Uh? Yes, this gets really murky for me. I don't
- 45:32Speaker 1: know what's done.
- 45:34Speaker 2: It's the black hole we're in it because it seemed
- 45:37Speaker 2: like she wasn't denying that.
- 45:42Speaker 1: Wait is it the type of kiss? Is that what
- 45:44Speaker 1: it is?
- 45:45Speaker 3: Too?
- 45:45Speaker 1: Here's with Demi. I think this is what happened. And
- 45:48Speaker 1: I think she got a little ahead of herself with
- 45:52Speaker 1: Marciano and then is backtracking really quickly. And I wouldn't
- 45:58Speaker 1: even be surprised if some of the things that she
- 46:00Speaker 1: texted him or happened happened after she was feeling like
- 46:06Speaker 1: she wanted to pull back.
- 46:08Speaker 3: Well, that's her defense going.
- 46:10Speaker 2: Remember, she was like, I was just towing the line
- 46:12Speaker 2: until I could, like, you know, keep your enemies closer
- 46:15Speaker 2: type of thing, and it just it doesn't make sense.
- 46:20Speaker 2: And when Brett's like defending his wife for the things
- 46:23Speaker 2: that she's saying in text messages to him about swallowing,
- 46:29Speaker 2: you know, yeah, I mean what are you talking about?
- 46:33Speaker 2: So it's very strange, strange.
- 46:37Speaker 1: So Marciana is a piece of shit, Like in terms
- 46:39Speaker 1: of what we've seen on the villa, he does not
- 46:42Speaker 1: have a lot of respect seems for women, and and
- 46:46Speaker 1: like he treated that Galhanah so badly, right Hannah, Yeah,
- 46:51Speaker 1: but you know that again, that could have been for
- 46:52Speaker 1: the show. So it's just hard to know. And with
- 46:55Speaker 1: Demi's it is, this part specifically on what happened is
- 47:04Speaker 1: confusing because I feel like that timeline changed and she
- 47:10Speaker 1: started getting really pissed out of nowhere about it and
- 47:14Speaker 1: that and that clouded out the way she was explaining it,
- 47:17Speaker 1: and I understand how that can happen. So I she was.
- 47:22Speaker 2: Trying to backtrack the whole time. Yeah, and double down,
- 47:25Speaker 2: double down, double down. So remember the healer?
- 47:29Speaker 1: Oh god, yes, we got to get in on that.
- 47:33Speaker 1: How can we heal?
- 47:35Speaker 2: I mean, we could have done a way better job.
- 47:37Speaker 2: I was like, who is this? Did you just get
- 47:39Speaker 2: her from swig, like was she working again?
- 47:41Speaker 1: Recapping the show? She came there to heal, but she's
- 47:45Speaker 1: just recapping. She's like, didn't you guys you have a
- 47:49Speaker 1: salon and you guys hang out a lot.
- 47:51Speaker 3: Great, Yeah, She's like, we get that.
- 47:53Speaker 2: So like you if I could just like say something,
- 47:56Speaker 2: I feel like you are having an emotional affair, but like, yeah, so,
- 48:03Speaker 2: but Demi apparently has seen this healer before and she
- 48:09Speaker 2: in the past to this healer that she's had emotional affairs.
- 48:14Speaker 2: She's confessed that to her because like at some point
- 48:17Speaker 2: in the show, Demi was like, oh, yeah, I've had
- 48:21Speaker 2: emotional affairs, Like I've admitted to this, but wasn't with Marciano.
- 48:25Speaker 2: So she's admitting to other emotional affairs that she has
- 48:28Speaker 2: had but not Marciano. And that's why she was like that,
- 48:32Speaker 2: I wish that something would have happened because it would
- 48:34Speaker 2: have been so much easier for me to just say
- 48:37Speaker 2: that instead of having to try and defend myself and all.
- 48:40Speaker 3: It's just so convoluted.
- 48:42Speaker 1: I didn't know what she meant that, So that's a
- 48:45Speaker 1: good take on that. I hear what you're saying.
- 48:48Speaker 2: Yeah, And she just wanted to have it be over with,
- 48:51Speaker 2: like just I wish it. I wish I could just
- 48:52Speaker 2: admit I had an affair emotional and physically, and now
- 48:57Speaker 2: I'm trying to work it out in my marriage. I
- 48:59Speaker 2: wish I just say that, but I can't because that's
- 49:02Speaker 2: not what happened. And instead, now it's bringing up all
- 49:06Speaker 2: this other stuff. And so she's alluding to her past
- 49:09Speaker 2: because remember on the reunion, she said, I've experienced some things,
- 49:13Speaker 2: some trauma in my past, and so she's talking about
- 49:17Speaker 2: that and now it's like, no one believes me, and
- 49:21Speaker 2: then it's all coming crashing in on each other and
- 49:23Speaker 2: you just are like, Okay, I have got to believe her.
- 49:27Speaker 2: And then you're like looking at all the other mom
- 49:30Speaker 2: talkers and they're just they seem to have her number.
- 49:33Speaker 2: They're like, she's so full of it. She's lying. All
- 49:35Speaker 2: she does is lie. This is not true.
- 49:37Speaker 3: And then you're like, well, what where are we.
- 49:39Speaker 2: Supposed to be as a as an audience. I think
- 49:42Speaker 2: we're all confused, except for Zach, because Zach's like, oh,
- 49:45Speaker 2: I believe Marciano, I mean one hundred percent because he
- 49:49Speaker 2: was remorseful and honest, and you know what guys. I mean,
- 49:52Speaker 2: it's more Demi and Jesse than it is him, because
- 49:55Speaker 2: you know, they're the married ones and so it's more
- 49:58Speaker 2: their fault. And you know what Arciano said that they're
- 50:01Speaker 2: that more than a kiss happened with Demi, And I'm like, Zach,
- 50:03Speaker 2: go fuck yourself because at.
- 50:06Speaker 5: This point saying Dakota's funny, Yeah, I know, but you know, yes,
- 50:11Speaker 5: we have the It is wild that we've got two
- 50:14Speaker 5: of these mom talkers that went to the villa and
- 50:16Speaker 5: all this stuff happened, and then Jesse can just like
- 50:19Speaker 5: laugh it off and be like, well, mine didn't happen
- 50:21Speaker 5: at the villa.
- 50:22Speaker 3: It happened after Sorry not sorry? Am I kidding too far?
- 50:24Speaker 1: What?
- 50:25Speaker 3: You know?
- 50:25Speaker 2: Like Jordan and Jesse, holy moly, what a hot mess.
- 50:30Speaker 2: They need to get away from each other. To see
- 50:34Speaker 2: them fight is tough. Her going to a hotel every
- 50:39Speaker 2: few days, and like they're going to therapy. I mean,
- 50:41Speaker 2: they are definitely giving it, they're all, but I think
- 50:44Speaker 2: it's all for not Like I just do not think
- 50:46Speaker 2: that they can work it out.
- 50:48Speaker 1: Do you know he's clout chasing in plain sight?
- 50:52Speaker 2: Well, how excited he got to go to the villa?
- 50:55Speaker 2: Was it was actually disturbing the amount of yessy and he.
- 51:00Speaker 1: Puts her face in it. He's like, no, like, h guys,
- 51:04Speaker 1: no matter what you ever do, you exist because of
- 51:08Speaker 1: mom talk. Just cash the checks, do your little dad
- 51:12Speaker 1: talk thing with your dumb hats, and that's fine, you'll
- 51:15Speaker 1: make some money, but know that it is mom talk.
- 51:18Speaker 1: I don't care what happened at the villa. It is
- 51:20Speaker 1: about mom talk because all of all of whatever your
- 51:25Speaker 1: world is and that culture is dad talk. So the
- 51:28Speaker 1: fact that mom talk has come out of it, that's it.
- 51:32Speaker 3: I mean, that's that's.
- 51:33Speaker 1: The unique cool Thingugh.
- 51:36Speaker 3: I know it's so gross. Yeah, okay.
- 51:40Speaker 2: So the scene when Jordan tells Chase and Dakota that
- 51:46Speaker 2: he told Jesse and Mikayla that Dakota had like a
- 51:52Speaker 2: four or three way kiss or something, right, and they're
- 51:56Speaker 2: out at this restaurant and Chase going off on Jordan
- 52:01Speaker 2: was very satisfying. I'm not gonna lie. I'm not saying
- 52:06Speaker 2: I know we all hate you, but I was like,
- 52:09Speaker 2: I was like snapping, I'm like yes, and he did
- 52:14Speaker 2: not stop, and I was like, okay, well that that's enough,
- 52:17Speaker 2: all right, You've done it. And he's like and I
- 52:19Speaker 2: mean really dude, like bro like he just kept going,
- 52:23Speaker 2: I mean, and then it got Dakota going.
- 52:26Speaker 3: It was kind of.
- 52:28Speaker 1: Because you can see Mason and Chase going for the
- 52:33Speaker 1: crown together. They're like, we are going to take this
- 52:35Speaker 1: motherfucker down.
- 52:36Speaker 2: They did, and they did and they did, and honestly,
- 52:40Speaker 2: I'm like, Chase, welcome in because this guy is going
- 52:43Speaker 2: to bring some dirty soda to this show like he
- 52:45Speaker 2: always does. He does, he has and he does. And
- 52:48Speaker 2: the fact that he brought up the incident where they're
- 52:52Speaker 2: like take ownership, take ownership on the lawn hm and
- 52:56Speaker 2: Jordan was like, no, I mean I did that because
- 52:58Speaker 2: my wife and I and you know where you are
- 53:01Speaker 2: trying to have everything be one hundred percent. And he's like,
- 53:04Speaker 2: take ownership full circle, motherfucker. Actually he said that the
- 53:08Speaker 2: wrong way. He was like, he was like take circle.
- 53:11Speaker 2: He's like he's like circle full motherfucker.
- 53:14Speaker 3: I was like, all right, you.
- 53:16Speaker 1: He gets on here and shows his ass and I'm like,
- 53:18Speaker 1: not bad kids.
- 53:19Speaker 2: I know. I'm like, good job, Okay, all right, well
- 53:22Speaker 2: we'll see on the field next week. You know, I mean,
- 53:24Speaker 2: I am here for it. Him going after Taylor. You
- 53:29Speaker 2: know this thing in the beginning when we first started
- 53:32Speaker 2: the Macy thing. Okay, wait, so then the tailor at
- 53:35Speaker 2: the very beginning, you know, she's like, well, i'm moving,
- 53:37Speaker 2: you know, and he's there and he's helping her move
- 53:39Speaker 2: and all this stuff. You're like, whoa, because it we
- 53:41Speaker 2: left off in season three where he's like, maybe we
- 53:43Speaker 2: should date and she's like what. So we know it's
- 53:48Speaker 2: pretty clear with her she's not going to go there.
- 53:50Speaker 2: But then the word gets back to Miranda that they're
- 53:55Speaker 2: you know, they went on at what is this a
- 53:56Speaker 2: date or a not date? And so, and it was
- 53:58Speaker 2: really sad to see Miranda start crying about like the potential,
- 54:03Speaker 2: like is she gonna do this? I would hope she
- 54:05Speaker 2: wouldn't do this. So then she's got to like sit
- 54:08Speaker 2: and fester in the idea that this is going to
- 54:10Speaker 2: happen maybe, And so she's crying and then then thank god,
- 54:14Speaker 2: they talked and then they moved on. I'm like, you know,
- 54:16Speaker 2: they're just going through all of these things, like person
- 54:19Speaker 2: to person, and then we've got three babies that were born,
- 54:22Speaker 2: Like we haven't even mentioned the babies.
- 54:25Speaker 1: I mean, they're not doing much these babies right now.
- 54:27Speaker 1: It's Okay, they're not too much.
- 54:29Speaker 2: But they had three babies, and then like we've got
- 54:31Speaker 2: three postpartum mom's. We've got two of them moving to
- 54:35Speaker 2: LA for Dancing with the Stars, which was crazy. And
- 54:39Speaker 2: then they're going and they're dancing on Dancing with the Stars.
- 54:42Speaker 2: They're rehearsing. They're living in this house because they don't
- 54:45Speaker 2: end up all living there. They end up finding another airbnb.
- 54:48Speaker 2: But then they go to the reunion. Then the next day,
- 54:51Speaker 2: Whitney has a freaking event that they all have to
- 54:53Speaker 2: show up to. I'm like, these people don't stop.
- 54:56Speaker 1: They don't and I'm worried. I'm worried about some of them.
- 55:00Speaker 1: It's Macie's husband's name. I want to have a word, Jacob, Yes,
- 55:04Speaker 1: with a high five.
- 55:05Speaker 2: Chase Jase, Jacob, that's Chase or Chase Cha Chase up.
- 55:12Speaker 1: Jace is not long for this marriage. We know that,
- 55:15Speaker 1: right because that's coming. We saw that, yeah with Michayla.
- 55:19Speaker 1: But Jacob high fiving his bros about what went down
- 55:24Speaker 1: the villa.
- 55:25Speaker 3: No, no, he is so, he is so hard up. No,
- 55:30Speaker 3: he's so.
- 55:32Speaker 2: He's so hard for Dakota and his new bro Chase,
- 55:36Speaker 2: Like they're on a high they just got back from
- 55:40Speaker 2: the villa and they broke out so hard and like
- 55:44Speaker 2: to the point where Jacob is like, yeah, work it
- 55:48Speaker 2: out with Chase Michayla, even though he said on his
- 55:53Speaker 2: Freaking Dad podcast the Michayla basically got attention because she's
- 56:01Speaker 2: a single mom because she lost her husband. Oh my god,
- 56:04Speaker 2: Mary Macey. Sorry, guys, we're.
- 56:08Speaker 1: All America is doing it Amy.
- 56:10Speaker 3: It is not just so. I'm sorry, guys, I'm sorry.
- 56:13Speaker 3: I'm so sorry.
- 56:15Speaker 2: What a horrible thing to say. And his apology can
- 56:19Speaker 2: go fuck itself.
- 56:20Speaker 1: Yeah, see that's what I'm talking about.
- 56:22Speaker 2: And her husband's sitting there like that's a fine. He
- 56:25Speaker 2: should have been groveling to her.
- 56:29Speaker 1: Yeah, oh yeah, no, I agree.
- 56:31Speaker 4: I agree.
- 56:32Speaker 2: Horrible thing to say, horrible mother. All right, m hm, well, okay,
- 56:44Speaker 2: they're at some sort of weird arcade with their babies.
- 56:47Speaker 2: I don't know where we were. I don't know if
- 56:49Speaker 2: we were in La, I don't know.
- 56:50Speaker 3: If we were in Utah. I don't know if we
- 56:52Speaker 3: were in the villa.
- 56:53Speaker 2: It doesn't matter. I'm just like, we're in some random,
- 56:57Speaker 2: large place with video games, and.
- 57:01Speaker 1: I think we've been there before and or these are
- 57:04Speaker 1: all over Salt Lake. Oh there's just multiple of these.
- 57:09Speaker 3: Oh right, okay, that makes sense.
- 57:11Speaker 1: Good wholesome, fun, honestly right an arcade. So and then
- 57:14Speaker 1: David busters, I'm right there, me.
- 57:16Speaker 2: And Yeah from the valley, Yeah right, and they Jordan
- 57:23Speaker 2: and Demi are like fighting in the car hot Mike moment. Yeah,
- 57:28Speaker 2: and then they get out they go into this arcade
- 57:30Speaker 2: and she just completely breaks down, and and Layla's like,
- 57:34Speaker 2: I fucking hate Jordan. She hates him so much. And
- 57:39Speaker 2: Demi's freaking out. She doesn't know what she's gonna do.
- 57:42Speaker 2: And then Layla and Jordan have a conversation because Jordan
- 57:48Speaker 2: is like, yeah, your last couple of boyfriends have told
- 57:50Speaker 2: me that you cheated on them.
- 57:54Speaker 3: I get so now, Yeah, this piece of shit.
- 57:57Speaker 1: Also, I'm not love the dark.
- 58:01Speaker 3: Uh.
- 58:01Speaker 1: Jesse and Jordan both dyed all their hair, facial hair
- 58:05Speaker 1: and head, hair, brows, everything is a darker amber this year,
- 58:11Speaker 1: and I don't I'm not into it.
- 58:13Speaker 2: Who jaasob Jordan Jessop jessuph Visus.
- 58:22Speaker 1: Okay, Jesse and Jordan oh dyed their hair this year. Yeah,
- 58:27Speaker 1: He's dyed his beard darker, dyed her brows, darker.
- 58:30Speaker 2: Her brows, hair darker, pissing me off. Her brows and
- 58:33Speaker 2: her hair are pissing me off. I'm sorry she's.
- 58:36Speaker 1: Going through it. You were so empathetic when Duri dyed
- 58:41Speaker 1: her hair. She was going through something. Now, let Jesse
- 58:44Speaker 1: dye her hair dark. Yeah I wasn't.
- 58:48Speaker 2: I don't remember that, but okay, yeah, yeah, okay, So yeah,
- 58:52Speaker 2: of course everybody dyes their hair when they're going through stuff.
- 58:55Speaker 2: So Jesse in this season, even though she's dyed her
- 58:58Speaker 2: hair and her eyebrows, her face is like you know
- 59:03Speaker 2: what it is. But after this season films, meaning the
- 59:08Speaker 2: one that we're watching, she goes and does a ton
- 59:11Speaker 2: of work on her face, like she full on gets like,
- 59:14Speaker 2: I don't know another person's face put on her face.
- 59:18Speaker 2: And she just said she had a nose job and
- 59:23Speaker 2: tons of other things done. And I don't know what
- 59:26Speaker 2: she has said now in real time that she feels
- 59:29Speaker 2: like she has ruined her life. She hates the way
- 59:34Speaker 2: she looks, she's embarrassed, she doesn't want to go anywhere,
- 59:37Speaker 2: she doesn't want to film anything, and she is having
- 59:41Speaker 2: huge regrets.
- 59:43Speaker 1: So wow, I know I feel bad for her. Yeah,
- 59:46Speaker 1: she I saw an after picture. I mean honestly, like
- 59:51Speaker 1: I didn't think she looked that different, and I thought.
- 59:53Speaker 4: She was gorgeous before.
- 59:54Speaker 3: I Yeah, I.
- 59:56Speaker 1: Mean, you know, it's all you know, she's got to
- 59:59Speaker 1: deal with what she's going to do deal with mentally,
- 1:00:00Speaker 1: but like I barely noticed.
- 1:00:05Speaker 2: Well, we'll have to see, you know, the next season,
- 1:00:07Speaker 2: which starts next week. No, all right, I do want
- 1:00:13Speaker 2: to mention Taylor calling Dakota when she found out about
- 1:00:19Speaker 2: him sleeping with someone at the villa, because that is
- 1:00:23Speaker 2: like the way she acted makes every person watching it
- 1:00:29Speaker 2: feel like that's kind of like what you do when
- 1:00:33Speaker 2: you kind of snap and you just go for it
- 1:00:35Speaker 2: and you just want to like lose your shit on
- 1:00:37Speaker 2: the person that you're upset about, and then later you
- 1:00:40Speaker 2: might regret it. But like this is a good example
- 1:00:42Speaker 2: of like what not to do, you know what I'm saying.
- 1:00:44Speaker 1: Like, yeah, because Jesse was like, what is the point?
- 1:00:48Speaker 1: You're not gonna and Taylor just finds a loophole. No,
- 1:00:51Speaker 1: I just want to know what he had.
- 1:00:53Speaker 3: He doesn't after it, don't need to.
- 1:00:58Speaker 1: I'm just gonna ask him what it was. This was
- 1:01:01Speaker 1: dinner good that night?
- 1:01:02Speaker 3: I just would know. You don't need to know. Jesse
- 1:01:05Speaker 3: was so funny.
- 1:01:06Speaker 2: You don't need to know, Okay, please don't do you
- 1:01:10Speaker 2: don't need to oh god, and she's like, did you
- 1:01:13Speaker 2: I just need to know?
- 1:01:13Speaker 3: Did you enjoy it?
- 1:01:15Speaker 1: Did you enjoy it? No?
- 1:01:17Speaker 2: Tailor, of course I didn't. Okay, Well do you love her? No, Taylor,
- 1:01:23Speaker 2: of course I don't. Oh so you didn't even know her. Well,
- 1:01:26Speaker 2: I'm not saying, so she's just a hoe. Well, Taylor,
- 1:01:30Speaker 2: of course she's just a hoe. I mean, Taylor, No,
- 1:01:33Speaker 2: I loved her, Taylor, Taylor, Oh my god, these two people,
- 1:01:38Speaker 2: these two people.
- 1:01:39Speaker 3: And then he's like, you push me away, Taylor. What
- 1:01:43Speaker 3: was I supposed to do?
- 1:01:44Speaker 2: Taylor? I never didn't want you, Taylor. You made it impossible, Taylor.
- 1:01:50Speaker 2: So I had to go sleep with your friend, Taylor.
- 1:01:53Speaker 2: And then I had to go sleep with your aunt
- 1:01:55Speaker 2: because you didn't want.
- 1:01:56Speaker 3: Me, Taylor.
- 1:01:57Speaker 2: So it's your fault, Taylor. And then you said I
- 1:01:59Speaker 2: don't want you because I slept with your aunt and
- 1:02:01Speaker 2: your best friend, Taylor. So I went to Europe and
- 1:02:04Speaker 2: I slept with someone they Taylor, and you know.
- 1:02:06Speaker 1: Who it was, Taylor, Lisa vander Pump Taylor.
- 1:02:12Speaker 3: It was fabulous.
- 1:02:14Speaker 2: I've never done this before, but he's so hilarious.
- 1:02:18Speaker 3: I had to. I just love him so much. He's irresistible.
- 1:02:24Speaker 1: Hold my dog, can fuck this young man?
- 1:02:31Speaker 2: Next season? On The Secret Lives of Mormon Wives.
- 1:02:36Speaker 3: Oh, hello, Taylor, we finally.
- 1:02:39Speaker 1: Need Speaking of Taylor, my dress is tailored. My glouse too.
- 1:02:48Speaker 3: We have a lot in common.
- 1:02:51Speaker 1: By the way. You know what I noticed at the
- 1:02:53Speaker 1: end of episode two is all of the goals the
- 1:02:58Speaker 1: Mormon Wives are executive producers, with the exception it's Demi.
- 1:03:03Speaker 1: Really yes, I don't know when that happened. The credits.
- 1:03:09Speaker 2: No, wait, that's amazing. We should go back, we should
- 1:03:12Speaker 2: go by and look.
- 1:03:13Speaker 1: Well yan On IMDb it just says season one, episode
- 1:03:17Speaker 1: one that they are executive producers, which I already know
- 1:03:20Speaker 1: is not correct because I saw it on episode two.
- 1:03:23Speaker 1: So I'm thinking, like IMDb hasn't caught up yet, But
- 1:03:27Speaker 1: I wonder if they are all EPs for this season,
- 1:03:30Speaker 1: which is huge.
- 1:03:32Speaker 2: It's huge and good for them. Yes, the fact that
- 1:03:37Speaker 2: Demi stopped doing she wasn't going to do interviews, and
- 1:03:40Speaker 2: the way that they kept leaning into that joke was sick.
- 1:03:44Speaker 1: Oh yeah, with the crickets. They played that crickets back
- 1:03:47Speaker 1: to back on different things, and I was like, all right,
- 1:03:49Speaker 1: we get there too.
- 1:03:50Speaker 3: Much of the crickets.
- 1:03:51Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah that was funny. So but h Jesse
- 1:03:58Speaker 2: says that the Bachelorette will be good.
- 1:04:02Speaker 3: Sorry, Jesse cracks me up.
- 1:04:05Speaker 2: After Taylor was like Rena reaming Dakota out on the phone.
- 1:04:10Speaker 3: Did you enjoy it? Taylor?
- 1:04:14Speaker 2: In her confessional, Jesse was like, I'm just so hoping
- 1:04:17Speaker 2: that the Bachelorette will be a good detox for her and.
- 1:04:26Speaker 1: She has a really healthy space.
- 1:04:29Speaker 3: And it will help her move on. I was like,
- 1:04:31Speaker 3: what is this world?
- 1:04:36Speaker 2: I mean, Jesse had some wild things to say in
- 1:04:39Speaker 2: her confessionals. Oh and also she said at some point,
- 1:04:42Speaker 2: She's like, it just feels like Taylor's been, you know,
- 1:04:45Speaker 2: stuck in this toxic cycle with Dakota for so long
- 1:04:48Speaker 2: because and you know, like Taylor is the leader of
- 1:04:51Speaker 2: mom talk, so there's like this constant turmoil in her life,
- 1:04:54Speaker 2: and like it does affect the group as a whole.
- 1:04:58Speaker 2: And so I'm just really not sure if like I
- 1:05:01Speaker 2: made the right decision telling Taylor right before.
- 1:05:04Speaker 3: The reunion, oh the way I lolled, I mean.
- 1:05:10Speaker 2: It's so good, It's just so so good. I'm like
- 1:05:13Speaker 2: constant turmoil, Like, yeah, but aren't you in constant turmoil
- 1:05:18Speaker 2: the last like two years? I mean, oh, it's no
- 1:05:21Speaker 2: different anyway.
- 1:05:22Speaker 1: Yeah. No, once the turmoil stops, I mean, they will
- 1:05:26Speaker 1: stop filming. And it doesn't seem like they're gonna stop filming,
- 1:05:29Speaker 1: and the turmoil is cranking. So yeah, good job, Jesse.
- 1:05:35Speaker 1: Good on you, Jesse.
- 1:05:37Speaker 2: Good on you, Jesse. All right, well we gotta wrap
- 1:05:42Speaker 2: this sucker up. What a fun time talking about talking
- 1:05:46Speaker 2: about this show. Can't wait to do more of it.
- 1:05:48Speaker 2: We'll probably do four through.
- 1:05:50Speaker 3: Six next week.
- 1:05:51Speaker 2: It'll be fun. Yeah, Okay, Well listen. If you don't
- 1:05:55Speaker 2: see podcasts on the public, head on over to patreon
- 1:05:59Speaker 2: dot com slash drama Darling. You can get ad free
- 1:06:02Speaker 2: episodes as well as video over there if you are
- 1:06:04Speaker 2: tier two and thanks for listening.
- 1:06:06Speaker 3: Bye bye, Emma, goodbye.
- 1:06:10Speaker 1: Lonely Wednesday's playing in Dollywood this summer.
- 1:06:13Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I'm gonna be opening up, Darling. Ben, Hey,
- 1:06:19Speaker 3: I've been here this whole time.
- 1:06:22Speaker 1: Is Lisa opening Yeah,