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NFL Week 1 Reaction: Giants UPSET Cowboys on SNF, Bills OUTLAST Texans in Thriller, Ravens DOMINATE Colts · 3 and Out with John Middlekauff

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  Speaker 1: And then if you're me, you talk into a mic
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  Speaker 1: about what you saw. And that's what we will do today.
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  Speaker 1: So the Giants get a big win. Some craziness today.
• 2:38
  Speaker 1: All-time Packers meltdown. Bears score like 150 points. Josh Allen,
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  Speaker 1: Lamar dominate. Might have to apologize to you Ravens fans.
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  Speaker 1: Bengals defense might be sweet. A lot going on. Arch
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  Speaker 1: Manning saves Steve Sarkeesian in the fourth quarter. Maybe Steve
• 2:57
  Speaker 1: Sarkeesian saves Arch. I don't know. That was a crazy
• 2:59
  Speaker 1: Saturday night. So a lot of football to discuss. Tyler
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  Speaker 1: Shuck just refused to die against the Lions, who look
• 3:08
  Speaker 1: like kitty cats for about a half on defense, who
• 3:11
  Speaker 1: might not be great on defense. But they're clearly not.
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  Speaker 1: also did an instant reaction video. as the Packers were
• 3:50
  Speaker 1: actually mid-melting down and the Eagles were trying to hold
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  Speaker 1: on on all the action on Sunday. So let's just
• 3:58
  Speaker 1: dive into some football. Giants-Cowboys, to me, feels like week
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  Speaker 1: one Sunday night football. The problem has been is both
• 4:07
  Speaker 1: franchises have been all over the map, and specifically the Giants, right?
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  Speaker 1: Once they fired Coughlin, the McAdoo, Eli, Daniel Jones, Brian Dayball,
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  Speaker 1: Pat Shermer, nothing has worked. And they put all their
• 4:23
  Speaker 1: chips in the table this offseason to go in for
• 4:26
  Speaker 1: John Harbaugh, who, let's face it, was coming off a
• 4:29
  Speaker 1: devastating season in Baltimore. I mean, it peaked two or
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  Speaker 1: three years ago when he had Mike McDonald and Todd
• 4:36
  Speaker 1: Munkin and Lamar's the MVP. And I thought they were
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  Speaker 1: going to win the Super Bowl. And I was like,
• 4:41
  Speaker 1: John Harbaugh is going to win his second Super Bowl.
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  Speaker 1: And then they got just unraveled in that AFC Championship game.
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  Speaker 1: And then they just kept taking steps back. And I
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  Speaker 1: think it was fair to ask. I totally understood why
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  Speaker 1: they did it. And they needed to get a grown-up
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  Speaker 1: in the building. They have all this young talent that
• 5:02
  Speaker 1: he gets to inherit. And then he gets with trading
• 5:05
  Speaker 1: Dexter Lawrence, two young players. But, like, does John Harbaugh
• 5:09
  Speaker 1: still have his fastball? And, you know, for those of
• 5:12
  Speaker 1: you that are Giants fans that follow the team probably
• 5:15
  Speaker 1: closer on a day-in, hour-in, out basis during training camp,
• 5:20
  Speaker 1: I follow it relatively closely. Jordan Renan, buddy of mine,
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  Speaker 1: I follow his work. I keep a close eye on
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  Speaker 1: what's going on. I've known Matt Nagy since I started
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  Speaker 1: with the Philadelphia Eagles. I love Nagy. And tonight was
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  Speaker 1: a huge night for the Giants organization that, like, we
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  Speaker 1: got it grown up in the house. And John Harbaugh
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  Speaker 1: still has his fastball. And Matt Nagy knows how to
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  Speaker 1: call an offense. And Abdul Carter, who anyone with a
• 5:49
  Speaker 1: pulse that has watched football, that watched him play at
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  Speaker 1: Penn State went, this guy could be a Micah Parsons-level player.
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  Speaker 1: And last year, the disasters that were happening off the field,
• 5:59
  Speaker 1: coming late, not starting, it's like popped immediately off the screen.
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  Speaker 1: Obviously the quarterback who we'll get into here in a minute.
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  Speaker 1: But even going into tonight in the fourth quarter, when
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  Speaker 1: they were out playing the Cowboys, controlling the line of scrimmage,
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  Speaker 1: controlling the clock, just looking like a buttoned up real
• 6:20
  Speaker 1: NFL franchise, which let's face it, has not happened with
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  Speaker 1: the New York Giants for a long time. I didn't
• 6:28
  Speaker 1: know anything about the NFC East besides from far away,
• 6:31
  Speaker 1: living on the West Coast. And when I got hired
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  Speaker 1: by the Eagles, I remember going to the regular season
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  Speaker 1: games against the Giants. In 2010 and 2011, 2012, 2013,
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  Speaker 1: when Tom Coughlin was there, obviously they won their second
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  Speaker 1: Super Bowl in 11. The high-level guys they had on
• 6:49
  Speaker 1: that roster, the size and the physicality they had on
• 6:53
  Speaker 1: the line of scrimmage, was always such an eye-opening experience
• 6:57
  Speaker 1: for me. Their defensive linemen were all fucking huge. They
• 7:01
  Speaker 1: just had so many pros on their offensive line. Obviously, Eli,
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  Speaker 1: when he got hot, was as good as anybody. But
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  Speaker 1: at the end of the day, Tom Coughlin was essentially
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  Speaker 1: like a military general. And it just kind of worked.
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  Speaker 1: And then they kind of went the opposite way. Because
• 7:18
  Speaker 1: that's what you typically do with coaches. When you have
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  Speaker 1: a disciplinarian... When you fire that guy, you go to
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  Speaker 1: a player's coach. When you have a player's coach and
• 7:26
  Speaker 1: you fire that guy, you go to a disciplinarian. And
• 7:29
  Speaker 1: going from Dayball, who, you know, I root for bald guys,
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  Speaker 1: so I want to like them. But they were an
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  Speaker 1: embarrassment last year. I mean, game after game after game,
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  Speaker 1: blowing them in the fourth quarter to the, you know, the.
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  Speaker 1: peak of it all happening in that day in Denver
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  Speaker 1: which I'm pretty sure led to Dayball getting fired and
• 7:50
  Speaker 1: I don't know if you've checked in it's not going
• 7:52
  Speaker 1: well for him currently in Tennessee with the quarterback that
• 7:56
  Speaker 1: I know he liked Jackson Dart so I give him
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  Speaker 1: credit on that but he liked Cam Ward more and
• 8:01
  Speaker 1: I think sometimes organizations get a little lucky that the
• 8:05
  Speaker 1: Jackson Dart situation that he falls late in the first
• 8:08
  Speaker 1: round into the 20s I mean you look at him
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  Speaker 1: now like Okay, if people knew how good Jackson Dart
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  Speaker 1: would have been, in his draft, he would have been
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  Speaker 1: the number one overall pick. He showed flashes last year,
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  Speaker 1: but this is why you bring in a guy who
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  Speaker 1: knows what he's doing. Because you build structure around the player.
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  Speaker 1: You give the guy certain milestones that he has to hit.
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  Speaker 1: You demand certain things out of their talent. And John
• 8:36
  Speaker 1: has multiple guys. Joe Flacco's made like $ 200 million in
• 8:40
  Speaker 1: the league. won a Super Bowl with him. And the
• 8:45
  Speaker 1: irony is Lamar, you know, is a much better player
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  Speaker 1: than Joe Flacco, just has yet to kind of get
• 8:51
  Speaker 1: over the hump in the playoffs. But Lamar Jackson was
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  Speaker 1: a 32nd pick in the draft, was his fifth quarterback
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  Speaker 1: in his own class. So when John looks at Jackson Dart,
• 9:03
  Speaker 1: and listen, do I think he's like Nagy and Callahan
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  Speaker 1: and Greg Roman? He's not telling him about his footwork
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  Speaker 1: and coaching him on all these fundamentals. He has a
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  Speaker 1: staff to do that. But I do think the leadership,
• 9:18
  Speaker 1: the vision, what his expectations are for the player, and
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  Speaker 1: what will not be tolerated. And, you know, you can't
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  Speaker 1: play as reckless as he played last year and have
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  Speaker 1: a shot because he kept going to the blue tent
• 9:32
  Speaker 1: over and over and over. You won't have a long career.
• 9:36
  Speaker 1: And you watched him the night and you went– This
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  Speaker 1: feels much more like a buttoned-up player, a modern buttoned-up player.
• 9:44
  Speaker 1: If you watch Caleb, if you watch Josh, if you
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  Speaker 1: watch Lamar, those guys are buttoned-up, modern players. Jalen had
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  Speaker 1: flashes today, the big run toward the end of the game. Mobility,
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  Speaker 1: to me, is a must in my quarterback in 2019. 2026,
• 10:00
  Speaker 1: men moving forward. And if you watch football on Saturdays,
• 10:04
  Speaker 1: they all can move. But at the end of the day,
• 10:08
  Speaker 1: to be a great player in the NFL and in college,
• 10:12
  Speaker 1: you can get by a little with college. At least
• 10:14
  Speaker 1: we've seen examples, extreme examples, Tebow, I mean, Cam became
• 10:19
  Speaker 1: such an explosive pastor in the NFL. I know he
• 10:22
  Speaker 1: was a decent pastor in college, but his running ability
• 10:25
  Speaker 1: was unlike anything we've ever seen from a physical standpoint.
• 10:28
  Speaker 1: Johnny Manziel, you just run around, right? Even Bryce against
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  Speaker 1: Oklahoma had the big run. In the NFL, you've got
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  Speaker 1: to sit in the pocket and you've got to deliver strikes.
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  Speaker 1: And you watch Jackson tonight, there were some stretches, we'll
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  Speaker 1: get into the Cowboys defense later, where guys are wide open.
• 10:44
  Speaker 1: When a guy is wide open and that is your read...
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  Speaker 1: A good quarterback hits them 100% of the time. Now,
• 10:51
  Speaker 1: that wide receiver might drop a wide open pass. We
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  Speaker 1: have seen that happen. But he hits them in the
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  Speaker 1: hands 100% of the time. And it felt like tonight,
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  Speaker 1: Jackson Dart hit all the wide open guys right in
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  Speaker 1: the hands 100% of the time. And that is the
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  Speaker 1: price of admission. but where I was blown away. And
• 11:08
  Speaker 1: even Collinsworth talked about this on the broadcast. And you
• 11:11
  Speaker 1: can tell Collinsworth was impressed because it was an impressive performance,
• 11:15
  Speaker 1: especially if you watch football all day, like all of
• 11:18
  Speaker 1: us degenerates, and you watched, I mean, Josh Allen, Lamar Jackson,
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  Speaker 1: who are two of the great talents of my lifetime.
• 11:26
  Speaker 1: I'm not talking accomplishments, though they have three MVPs combined.
• 11:31
  Speaker 1: I'm just talking, I know they haven't won Super Bowls,
• 11:34
  Speaker 1: but just in terms of talent and physical capabilities, all-time talents.
• 11:40
  Speaker 1: And it sure seems like Caleb Williams is now throwing
• 11:42
  Speaker 1: his hat in that ring, too. But those guys, when
• 11:45
  Speaker 1: it really has to happen, sometimes sit in the pocket,
• 11:48
  Speaker 1: a seven-yard out route, a slant where a guy is
• 11:52
  Speaker 1: draped over your wide receiver and he's likely in stride,
• 11:55
  Speaker 1: likely in stride. It's like, what a pass. And listen,
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  Speaker 1: the guy might catch it, he might not, but you
• 12:01
  Speaker 1: got to put him in position to complete that pass
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  Speaker 1: and keep the chains moving. And to me, I watched
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  Speaker 1: art tonight. As Michael Jordan once said, the ceiling is
• 12:12
  Speaker 1: the roof. I mean, the sky is the limit because
• 12:16
  Speaker 1: that was a dramatic. And listen, he was played sparingly
• 12:22
  Speaker 1: because of injuries. Pretty impressive, I thought, as a rookie.
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  Speaker 1: But what we witnessed tonight was in a completely different universe.
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  Speaker 1: It truly was. Because of the plays throwing under control
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  Speaker 1: from the pocket. I know he can run for a
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  Speaker 1: first down. I know he can scramble and throw. He's
• 12:41
  Speaker 1: been doing that stuff probably since high school. But to
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  Speaker 1: win in the NFL against the Cowboys, against the Eagles,
• 12:48
  Speaker 1: next week against the Rams, there are going to be
• 12:50
  Speaker 1: several times, especially if the game is close, in a 10-10, 17-17,
• 12:55
  Speaker 1: you're up seven, you're down four, where it's like it's
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  Speaker 1: 36 at the 50-yard line. And likely he's cutting across
• 13:02
  Speaker 1: the field with a DB or a safety or a
• 13:04
  Speaker 1: linebacker all over his ass. And you have a tiny,
• 13:08
  Speaker 1: tiny little window. And we have seen all shapes and
• 13:11
  Speaker 1: sizes be great. Drew Brees, smaller, weaker arm. Peyton Manning, taller,
• 13:15
  Speaker 1: weaker arm. Tom Brady, taller, strong arm. None of them
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  Speaker 1: could really move. You see Lamar, Josh, when they get
• 13:22
  Speaker 1: in that position, they're playing well, they hit it. And
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  Speaker 1: he hit it tonight. I was like, damn. You know, damn.
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  Speaker 1: And it also crossed my mind of like, Mark Andrews
• 13:31
  Speaker 1: is a really good player and had an excellent career.
• 13:34
  Speaker 1: I've been rooting for him since Oklahoma. There were rumors
• 13:38
  Speaker 1: last year about a potential trade out of Baltimore and
• 13:40
  Speaker 1: extending likely. I'm not saying they regret it because the
• 13:44
  Speaker 1: Ravens look incredible, but likely tonight looked like, and they
• 13:48
  Speaker 1: mentioned this on the broadcast, Isaiah thought that he was
• 13:52
  Speaker 1: never going to be a feature dude with the Ravens.
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  Speaker 1: And it was true because when he was there, he wasn't.
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  Speaker 1: Yet in some of the biggest moments when you watched
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  Speaker 1: him play, even I was watching the game, eating dinner
• 14:03
  Speaker 1: with my wife, and Maria looks at me and she goes,
• 14:06
  Speaker 1: that guy's huge. I'm like, yeah, he's like 6'6, tight end.
• 14:11
  Speaker 1: She's like, what's his deal? I'm like, big free agent signing,
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  Speaker 1: came with Harbaugh from Baltimore. Like transfer portal, a little
• 14:16
  Speaker 1: more cash. And he was incredible tonight. And the rapport
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  Speaker 1: with Dart. And the other thing for a young quarterback,
• 14:24
  Speaker 1: any quarterback, when you have a big target, Like, obviously,
• 14:28
  Speaker 1: Mahomes and Tyreek Hill or Edelman and Brady, right? But
• 14:33
  Speaker 1: there is something to be said about, look at Purdy
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  Speaker 1: the other night. Who did he throw to? Mike Evans.
• 14:40
  Speaker 1: I mean, it's much easier when you have a guy,
• 14:45
  Speaker 1: Mahomes for a long period of time with Travis Kelce. Today,
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  Speaker 1: Josh Allen with Kincaid. Lamar has been feasting off his
• 14:51
  Speaker 1: tight ends forever. It's a little easier because they're just bigger, right?
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  Speaker 1: And you feel comfortable throwing. And they're working the middle
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  Speaker 1: of the field. So, you know, if you're hesitant or
• 15:01
  Speaker 1: you're a little late on the outside routes, you can
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  Speaker 1: overthrow it, you can underthrow it, you can get a
• 15:06
  Speaker 1: PBU because you're a little off. It's a much more
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  Speaker 1: direct path with the tight end. And it looks like
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  Speaker 1: they got one. I mean, we already knew he was talented,
• 15:16
  Speaker 1: but how quickly he assimilated in. And the other thing is, like,
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  Speaker 1: the Harbaugh culture thing, that moment at the end of
• 15:25
  Speaker 1: the game, where Jackson Dart turned around and handed the
• 15:29
  Speaker 1: ball to Malik Nabors, it's just like, okay, they kind
• 15:34
  Speaker 1: of just get it. This team, and I'm not acting,
• 15:38
  Speaker 1: by no means am I even putting this team in
• 15:40
  Speaker 1: the playoffs yet. Got a long way to go. But
• 15:43
  Speaker 1: there is a power. This is the one sport, like ultimately,
• 15:49
  Speaker 1: NBA coaches bounce around, right? And it's like, oh, they
• 15:53
  Speaker 1: signed this guy, or Taylor Jenkins went here, this guy
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  Speaker 1: went there. It's like, if you don't have one of
• 15:58
  Speaker 1: the best players in the league, I don't give a
• 16:01
  Speaker 1: shit about your schemes. I mean, look at Eric Spolster.
• 16:04
  Speaker 1: Didn't he get smoked in the play-in game? And it's like,
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  Speaker 1: he's the greatest coach in the league. It doesn't matter
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  Speaker 1: if you don't have the players. In football, to win
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  Speaker 1: a Super Bowl, you're going to need some high-end guys.
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  Speaker 1: But you can win a lot of games by developing players.
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  Speaker 1: And clearly the Giants have talent. I mean, Abdul Carter
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  Speaker 1: was a top pick. Arvel Reese was a top pick.
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  Speaker 1: Jackson Dart was a first-rounder. Malik Nabors was a first-rounder.
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  Speaker 1: They have multiple offensive linemen who are first-rounders. Kayvon Thibodeau
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  Speaker 1: was a first-rounder. I'm not acting like they got scrubs.
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  Speaker 1: But football, you see it in college, you see it
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  Speaker 1: in the pros. A lot of teams. Look at Clemson
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  Speaker 1: last year. I think I heard this on college SiriusXM
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  Speaker 1: radio recently. That was the most players Clemson had ever
• 16:52
  Speaker 1: had drafted in a year. Don't quote me on that.
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  Speaker 1: I don't know if it's 100% a fact. But it
• 16:56
  Speaker 1: made sense because they had like nine. They had a
• 16:59
  Speaker 1: ton of guys go in the top like three rounds.
• 17:02
  Speaker 1: They were terrible. They were awful. You see it in
• 17:05
  Speaker 1: college basketball all the time. It's like, oh, this guy's
• 17:07
  Speaker 1: got three of their five players are going to be
• 17:11
  Speaker 1: lottery picks. And then they're like a nine seed. You
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  Speaker 1: see it in the NFL all the time. It's like, God,
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  Speaker 1: they have a lot of talent. They won eight games.
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  Speaker 1: Because coaching matters so much. It's not even just coaching
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  Speaker 1: the play calls. And Nagy made some great play calls tonight.
• 17:27
  Speaker 1: The one touchdown to Likely on the motion throwback looked
• 17:33
  Speaker 1: exactly like peak Chiefs Travis Kelsey from Mahomes. That's clearly
• 17:38
  Speaker 1: a play that they've used in Kansas City for years.
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  Speaker 1: And it was executed brilliantly. I would imagine the Giants
• 17:44
  Speaker 1: run game is going to be better. Why? Greg Roman's
• 17:46
  Speaker 1: good at the run game. There's a reason the Harbaugh
• 17:49
  Speaker 1: brothers love the guy. Even though Jim recently fired him.
• 17:52
  Speaker 1: But they still love him. His brother immediately hires him.
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  Speaker 1: It's about the daily message. And you know, it's... I'm
• 18:00
  Speaker 1: guilty of this too. It's easy to make fun of
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  Speaker 1: John's stupid pregame speech to start training camp about we're
• 18:07
  Speaker 1: the New York Giants. I bet if you read around
• 18:11
  Speaker 1: to every speech during training camp or OTAs, not every
• 18:15
  Speaker 1: single one is Al Pacino in any given Sunday. Not
• 18:20
  Speaker 1: every speech is going to win an Oscar. Andy Reid
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  Speaker 1: addresses the team for like five minutes every day. Like,
• 18:27
  Speaker 1: less than that. Kyle's team meetings are notoriously long. Andy's
• 18:31
  Speaker 1: are notoriously short. Every coach is a little bit different. Right?
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  Speaker 1: But the key is, do the guys believe in you?
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  Speaker 1: Do they want to follow you? And it feels like
• 18:42
  Speaker 1: the Giants haven't had one of those guys since they
• 18:43
  Speaker 1: had Tom. And, listen, I... Tom had an intensity and
• 18:50
  Speaker 1: a swag to him for an old dude. You just...
• 18:53
  Speaker 1: Kind of scared you a little bit. And I would
• 18:56
  Speaker 1: say this version of John... You know, a lot of
• 18:58
  Speaker 1: these college coaches aren't GLPs. It's very clear. Clearly, John,
• 19:03
  Speaker 1: if you follow the Giants, like, that guy's in the
• 19:04
  Speaker 1: gym every day at 5. Looks fantastic for a guy
• 19:07
  Speaker 1: in his early 60s. And he... He looks pretty motivated because,
• 19:11
  Speaker 1: you know, you get fired. You get told you're not
• 19:14
  Speaker 1: good enough. The owner says, yeah, you were going to
• 19:16
  Speaker 1: get fired even if you won that game regardless. We
• 19:18
  Speaker 1: were moving on. And listen, it was probably time. Just
• 19:23
  Speaker 1: because something, the time has run up, doesn't mean that
• 19:26
  Speaker 1: it's not, doesn't light a little fire in your ass.
• 19:29
  Speaker 1: And I do think the Giants have a very, very
• 19:31
  Speaker 1: motivated John Harbaugh. It showed tonight because they looked fucking good.
• 19:38
  Speaker 1: And on the flip side, I'm a cowboy believer coming
• 19:41
  Speaker 1: into the season. I'm gonna try not to totally overreact
• 19:45
  Speaker 1: to all these games week one, which is difficult. I'm
• 19:48
  Speaker 1: not one of those people in this business that goes
• 19:51
  Speaker 1: this is a show that doesn't overreact no I just
• 19:54
  Speaker 1: I literally react to what I see that's the business
• 19:57
  Speaker 1: we're in but like if some random guy has a
• 20:01
  Speaker 1: great game I don't go that guy's the next Josh
• 20:04
  Speaker 1: Allen Just like when Deshaun Watson hits a beautiful ball
• 20:07
  Speaker 1: at the end of that. It's like, God, he's got
• 20:09
  Speaker 1: it in him. Like, no, he doesn't. If you're in
• 20:11
  Speaker 1: the NFL, you could hit a play, right? But we
• 20:14
  Speaker 1: are going to react to what we saw. And part
• 20:16
  Speaker 1: of the, one, there was a stretch in the second
• 20:19
  Speaker 1: quarter where you're like, Dak Prescott looks incredible. Dak Prescott's
• 20:23
  Speaker 1: a stud. And then all of a sudden at the
• 20:25
  Speaker 1: end of the half, he throws the pick, which is
• 20:28
  Speaker 1: an inexcusable play. which is a play Jackson Dart in
• 20:32
  Speaker 1: his second year should make, knock Dak Prescott, who's going
• 20:34
  Speaker 1: to make $ 500 million playing quarterback, who in theory should
• 20:38
  Speaker 1: be in the peak of his powers mentally in the sport.
• 20:41
  Speaker 1: That's a throw that, and I got a couple texts
• 20:45
  Speaker 1: from different scouts in the league, like, what the hell
• 20:47
  Speaker 1: was that? And that's a great question, because those are
• 20:51
  Speaker 1: the type plays that Dak's made in the playoffs over
• 20:54
  Speaker 1: the years, that you're like, what did, what just happened?
• 20:59
  Speaker 1: Because he had a stretch of back-to-back series where he
• 21:01
  Speaker 1: just looked in complete control. Dominating from the pocket. Even
• 21:06
  Speaker 1: some of the balls that weren't completed are bouncing off Pickens' hand.
• 21:09
  Speaker 1: This guy's playing really well. The moment he threw that pick,
• 21:12
  Speaker 1: the game unraveled. And I do think big picture, the Cowboys'
• 21:17
  Speaker 1: offense is going to be fine. They've got two blue-chip
• 21:20
  Speaker 1: wide receivers. They've got a good running back. They've got
• 21:22
  Speaker 1: a good tight end. Smith will come back on the
• 21:25
  Speaker 1: offensive line. I'm not... terrified about an offensive performance which
• 21:30
  Speaker 1: wasn't great they ran for 69 yards and Dak threw
• 21:34
  Speaker 1: for 175 yards I mean box score wise wasn't good
• 21:39
  Speaker 1: they didn't have the ball that much because the Giants
• 21:41
  Speaker 1: controlled the clock what was a little concerning is beside
• 21:46
  Speaker 1: the Caleb Downs hit on dart which was pretty sweet
• 21:50
  Speaker 1: the defense was ass sheiks I mean that was an
• 21:53
  Speaker 1: embarrassment Now, I get it's the first game, you got
• 21:57
  Speaker 1: a new coordinator. There were multiple times, and I give
• 22:01
  Speaker 1: Jackson credit just because guys open, you got to hit them,
• 22:03
  Speaker 1: you got to catch it, and they did. But guys
• 22:05
  Speaker 1: were wide open because the DBs had no clue where
• 22:07
  Speaker 1: they were going. And this guy comes from the Fangio tree.
• 22:12
  Speaker 1: Part of the Vic Fangio tree, this is not Brian Flores.
• 22:17
  Speaker 1: I think I heard someone say that Brian Flores blitzed
• 22:18
  Speaker 1: like 79% of the time today. Like Brian Flores, he
• 22:22
  Speaker 1: probably would blitz 100% of the time if the head
• 22:24
  Speaker 1: coach would let him. That is not going to be
• 22:27
  Speaker 1: the Fangio school of thought. The Fangio school of thought
• 22:31
  Speaker 1: is actually much more simple. It's like the KISS method,
• 22:35
  Speaker 1: keep it simple, stupid. It's like just kind of be
• 22:38
  Speaker 1: where you're supposed to be. And if we play fundamentally,
• 22:41
  Speaker 1: we don't let guys behind us. And, you know, you
• 22:43
  Speaker 1: got to have some good players in that because a
• 22:45
  Speaker 1: lot's just going to be rushing forward. But we're not
• 22:49
  Speaker 1: going to give up big plays, and there's not going
• 22:52
  Speaker 1: to be just wide open spaces to run because we're
• 22:54
  Speaker 1: going to have a guy in the area. And tonight,
• 22:57
  Speaker 1: on so many occasions, two guys went with each other.
• 23:02
  Speaker 1: And it wasn't good. It definitely was a little concerning
• 23:08
  Speaker 1: because they don't have a snowball's chance in hell to
• 23:12
  Speaker 1: be a good team if their defense is going to
• 23:14
  Speaker 1: show similarities of last year. And to me, the miscommunication stuff,
• 23:19
  Speaker 1: when guys are just lost, is always concerning. Because it's
• 23:25
  Speaker 1: easy for, you know, I play it safe, don't overreact guy,
• 23:29
  Speaker 1: to be like, oh, they'll get it figured out. And
• 23:31
  Speaker 1: that's easy to say. I've been watching football for 30 years.
• 23:34
  Speaker 1: I've seen a lot of teams that like week in,
• 23:37
  Speaker 1: week out, it's like, eh, they actually never figured it out.
• 23:39
  Speaker 1: It never really got better. They never were on the
• 23:41
  Speaker 1: same page. Hell, it happened to the Cowboys four or
• 23:44
  Speaker 1: five years ago. Now, it was the Rona season, but
• 23:48
  Speaker 1: Nolan's defense, it was a nightmare. And then they got
• 23:51
  Speaker 1: Dan Quinn in, and it kind of settled down. But
• 23:54
  Speaker 1: this was a pretty big transition, and tonight was ugly.
• 23:59
  Speaker 1: And the Giants kind of embarrassed them with Jackson Dart,
• 24:02
  Speaker 1: Cam Scadaboo, and Isaiah Likely. I mean, I felt like
• 24:06
  Speaker 1: those three guys were just dominating this game. I mean,
• 24:09
  Speaker 1: dominating this game. Whenever in the second half they needed
• 24:13
  Speaker 1: a big play, it was Dart to Likely. Dart to likely.
• 24:17
  Speaker 1: Dart to likely. And then it's like third and seven.
• 24:20
  Speaker 1: It's like run out the clock. Give it to the
• 24:22
  Speaker 1: fucking hammerhead. And he's lowering his shoulder. Cam Scadaboo is
• 24:26
  Speaker 1: a talented runner. I know everyone makes fun of him
• 24:29
  Speaker 1: because he's like this meathead, you know, CTE guy. I'll
• 24:33
  Speaker 1: tell you this. When Cam Scadaboo is healthy, he could
• 24:36
  Speaker 1: play for my team any day of the week and
• 24:38
  Speaker 1: twice on Sundays. Cam Scadaboo is a ball player. That
• 24:42
  Speaker 1: was an impressive opening night, powerful night with the anniversary
• 24:49
  Speaker 1: over the last couple days of 9-11 in New York,
• 24:51
  Speaker 1: them all wearing the hats. It was just, that was
• 24:57
  Speaker 1: cool for the Giants. And the franchise kind of needed
• 25:00
  Speaker 1: it because they haven't had a really cool moment, it
• 25:02
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• 25:06
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• 26:27
  Speaker 1: in love those three games last year, the Bears and Packers,
• 26:31
  Speaker 1: the rivalry, and living in Arizona, the amount of people
• 26:36
  Speaker 1: I know that are from the midwest that are bears
• 26:41
  Speaker 1: fans i meet i met a packer fan last night
• 26:43
  Speaker 1: at dinner he's like are you we were kind of
• 26:46
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• 26:48
  Speaker 1: and he called me over to his table and we
• 26:50
  Speaker 1: were leaving with jack and maria and i started talking
• 26:53
  Speaker 1: to the guy and he's like you look familiar he's
• 26:54
  Speaker 1: like you do this with colin coward like yeah i'm
• 26:57
  Speaker 1: like uh he said he was from the midwest i
• 26:59
  Speaker 1: said are you a big bears fan he's like no
• 27:01
  Speaker 1: actually we're packer season ticket holders i meet a ton
• 27:04
  Speaker 1: of vikings fans these people live here six months of
• 27:07
  Speaker 1: the year It's good living if you can. Go back
• 27:09
  Speaker 1: and forth somewhere. And that division and those games last
• 27:15
  Speaker 1: year were just pretty special. And I have a lot of–
• 27:20
  Speaker 1: I grew up when Brett Favre got there. It was
• 27:24
  Speaker 1: when the Packers kind of 30-plus year run started. They've
• 27:29
  Speaker 1: been a major, major brand in the boom of the NFL.
• 27:34
  Speaker 1: John Madden falling in love with them. over the course
• 27:37
  Speaker 1: of LaFleur transitioning off Rodgers to Love and continuing to
• 27:40
  Speaker 1: make the playoffs. And when I did Fox over the summer,
• 27:45
  Speaker 1: one of Collins' take was the least hot or quietest
• 27:52
  Speaker 1: hot seat in the league is Matt LaFleur. And even
• 27:54
  Speaker 1: I thought, like, eh, I don't know, he got an extension.
• 27:56
  Speaker 1: And then you start realizing how many games they blow.
• 28:01
  Speaker 1: how last year unraveled, and then you look currently at
• 28:04
  Speaker 1: this year. Before today happened, or at least right before
• 28:08
  Speaker 1: the start of the day. If I would have told
• 28:10
  Speaker 1: you at the beginning, or during breakfast, if you give
• 28:15
  Speaker 1: me $ 1, 000, I will 10x your investment at the end
• 28:19
  Speaker 1: of the day. If you pick the LaFleur and Harbaugh
• 28:23
  Speaker 1: brother that will win their game commandingly, one will win
• 28:28
  Speaker 1: by 8, the other will win by 15, every single
• 28:32
  Speaker 1: person would have picked Jim and Matt. Instead, it was
• 28:36
  Speaker 1: Mike and John. And I think Mike LaFleur gets an
• 28:41
  Speaker 1: incredible win. I mean, he beats the crap out of
• 28:43
  Speaker 1: Jim Harbaugh. And Matt LaFleur, his team, in the blink
• 28:48
  Speaker 1: of an eye, was in complete control. And I don't
• 28:50
  Speaker 1: think Matt's a bad coach. Like, Colin's whole thing is,
• 28:54
  Speaker 1: there's something that he lacks, a killer instinct. And I'm
• 28:58
  Speaker 1: a huge believer in this. Some football coaches are just, like, tough.
• 29:03
  Speaker 1: There's just something about them. It doesn't mean that, like,
• 29:07
  Speaker 1: Tom Coughlin wasn't beating up anybody. Like, Nick Saban at
• 29:11
  Speaker 1: 68 wasn't going to get into a fight. But when
• 29:13
  Speaker 1: you're around Nick Saban or you're around Tom Coughlin, like,
• 29:16
  Speaker 1: this guy's just a tough SOB. Like, it's easy to
• 29:19
  Speaker 1: understand Dan Campbell's a tough guy, right? Because he's intimidating.
• 29:22
  Speaker 1: He's a big guy. But there are a lot of small, like,
• 29:25
  Speaker 1: Lou Holtz. Tiny little Lou Holtz. That guy was a badass.
• 29:31
  Speaker 1: and we'll get into Sark later, he's just not a
• 29:33
  Speaker 1: tough guy. But if you're not a tough guy, that's okay.
• 29:37
  Speaker 1: You can instill those people in your organization. Kyle Shanahan's
• 29:42
  Speaker 1: not a super tough guy. But he's big on investing
• 29:45
  Speaker 1: in the defensive side of the ball. And he takes
• 29:47
  Speaker 1: his defensive coordinator really seriously. And I see LaFleur, like,
• 29:52
  Speaker 1: his two tough guys, Micah Parsons, who knows when he's
• 29:56
  Speaker 1: coming back. Today, when it's 19-10... and the Packers are
• 30:00
  Speaker 1: in complete control. I think Jordan Love's playing pretty well.
• 30:02
  Speaker 1: Christian Watson looks like a pro bowler. That's when Micah
• 30:06
  Speaker 1: Parsons would have been all over Carson Wentz's ass because
• 30:10
  Speaker 1: Carson's not running away from him at this point, but
• 30:12
  Speaker 1: he's just one of the rare guys that tore his
• 30:15
  Speaker 1: ACL last year who's not remotely close to coming back
• 30:18
  Speaker 1: on the sideline, which is no one's fault. You get injured,
• 30:21
  Speaker 1: and it is what it is, but his recovery is
• 30:24
  Speaker 1: clearly slower than most. And then you got Josh Jacobs,
• 30:27
  Speaker 1: who Ian Rapsheet reported this morning, the NFL is doing
• 30:29
  Speaker 1: everything humanly possible to get a hold of that tape.
• 30:32
  Speaker 1: And by all accounts, it doesn't seem like there's a
• 30:34
  Speaker 1: lot of good visuals on that tape and that tape
• 30:38
  Speaker 1: comes out which honestly a little surprised it hasn't I
• 30:42
  Speaker 1: saw a story that Jacobs lawyers got the judge I
• 30:48
  Speaker 1: don't even know all the legal terms but basically did
• 30:51
  Speaker 1: not allow it in evident or whatever but it's just
• 30:53
  Speaker 1: kind of hidden right now we know how quick those
• 30:55
  Speaker 1: things can change there's a chance we never see Josh
• 30:57
  Speaker 1: Jacobs again and the two most physical players offensive and
• 31:01
  Speaker 1: defensively were Micah Parsons and Josh Jacobs well those guys
• 31:03
  Speaker 1: are gone And then you have a chance to make
• 31:07
  Speaker 1: it an eight-point game and kick the field goal. They
• 31:09
  Speaker 1: get the penalty, and you're like, well, instead of it's
• 31:11
  Speaker 1: fourth and six, it's fourth and one. Let's go for it. Like, bro,
• 31:14
  Speaker 1: you go up eight against, make Carson Wentz beat you.
• 31:18
  Speaker 1: And I know he actually threw a beautiful bomb to
• 31:21
  Speaker 1: Justin Jefferson. Crazy start for Kyler Murray. I mean, just
• 31:24
  Speaker 1: scrambles out. For a split second, you're like, is he dead?
• 31:27
  Speaker 1: Did that just end his career? Kevin O'Connell said after
• 31:33
  Speaker 1: the game he got up and he was talking, but
• 31:35
  Speaker 1: I would imagine he'll for sure be out a week.
• 31:38
  Speaker 1: They keep winning with Carson Wentz. I could see them
• 31:40
  Speaker 1: just riding with Carson Wentz. But to be up 19
• 31:43
  Speaker 1: to 10, and then in like the blink of an eye,
• 31:47
  Speaker 1: I mean, it felt like in real time, it was
• 31:49
  Speaker 1: under like 20, 25 minutes for it to go from
• 31:52
  Speaker 1: that to 39 to 22. And they scored 21 points
• 31:56
  Speaker 1: in like under two minutes of game time. It had
• 31:59
  Speaker 1: to be like 10 minutes of actual human time. These
• 32:03
  Speaker 1: are type things that it's hard to shake. And the
• 32:05
  Speaker 1: other thing, the Packers, and I don't know that area
• 32:08
  Speaker 1: that well. I've spent two or three days there when
• 32:12
  Speaker 1: I went out with Colin to do the Live Golf
• 32:16
  Speaker 1: before that thing unraveled. At the time, they had the
• 32:18
  Speaker 1: Saudi money, and the tournament on-site was actually pretty cool.
• 32:22
  Speaker 1: But being in Chicago, and then we went out a
• 32:25
  Speaker 1: couple times, him explaining how close Green Bay is, and
• 32:28
  Speaker 1: you kind of understand how small this town is. And
• 32:30
  Speaker 1: I was texting with Gottlieb, who's coaches in the city.
• 32:33
  Speaker 1: that the Bears historically are horrendous on offense. Never had
• 32:38
  Speaker 1: a 4,000-yard passer. When you just think about the Chicago Bears,
• 32:41
  Speaker 1: it's Trubisky's, Rex Grossman's. They've never had good quarterbacks in
• 32:46
  Speaker 1: my life. They've just never been good on offense. And
• 32:48
  Speaker 1: the Packers have just not been the bar in the division, typically,
• 32:53
  Speaker 1: because they've had Favre and Rodgers. They own the Bears.
• 32:56
  Speaker 1: And they were kind of the offensive-oriented team Operation, right?
• 33:02
  Speaker 1: McCarthy to LaFleur. And now you look, if you're a
• 33:05
  Speaker 1: Packer fan, we're just unraveling game after game. And I
• 33:08
  Speaker 1: look down the road, Ben Johnson's a star. Like, obviously
• 33:14
  Speaker 1: Caleb is physically like, he's way better this year. Much
• 33:18
  Speaker 1: more accurate today. Running around like he's Lamar Jackson with
• 33:21
  Speaker 1: some power. And they ran for 290 yards. They had
• 33:25
  Speaker 1: 200 yard runners. He's the Midwest Kyle Shanahan. Because Ben
• 33:29
  Speaker 1: Johnson wants to run the rock. Now, I don't know
• 33:32
  Speaker 1: how good the Bears are on defense. Probably not that good.
• 33:35
  Speaker 1: But they weren't last year either, and they won the division.
• 33:38
  Speaker 1: But if you're a Packer fan, you go, they don't
• 33:41
  Speaker 1: just have the better coach. It ain't even close. You know,
• 33:44
  Speaker 1: for a long time, like when the Packers had Rodgers,
• 33:48
  Speaker 1: it's like, what are the Vikings and the Bears? The
• 33:51
  Speaker 1: Lions were terrible then. Like, what are they supposed to do?
• 33:54
  Speaker 1: Because the gap was that wide. It's how it kind
• 33:56
  Speaker 1: of feels with Ben Johnson compared to Matt LaFleur right now. Like,
• 34:01
  Speaker 1: he is dramatically better. And then if you just watch
• 34:05
  Speaker 1: some of the bare stuff they post about him, he
• 34:09
  Speaker 1: is not, he's a serious badass. And there's something, I
• 34:14
  Speaker 1: know LaFleur tries to portray that, but his team doesn't
• 34:18
  Speaker 1: show that identity. And I just wonder, like, this thing
• 34:23
  Speaker 1: could get weird and this thing could get weird faster.
• 34:26
  Speaker 1: He needs to rattle off a couple wins to just
• 34:28
  Speaker 1: quiet everything down. Because I've come over when I think
• 34:33
  Speaker 1: Ben Johnson is only going to add fuel to the
• 34:35
  Speaker 1: fire and make that look even worse. And I saw
• 34:38
  Speaker 1: some people online, like former NFL players before the, I
• 34:42
  Speaker 1: think Booger McFarlane. You know, it's like, this was before
• 34:46
  Speaker 1: the Bears game kicked off. I've heard, I think, Urban
• 34:49
  Speaker 1: Meyer or maybe it was Jimmy Johnson. I think a
• 34:51
  Speaker 1: lot of coaches were a little, or maybe it was
• 34:53
  Speaker 1: Mangini who comes from the Belichick. When Ben Johnson goes,
• 34:57
  Speaker 1: I want the best offense in the league, when he
• 35:00
  Speaker 1: says that, I think that makes a lot of coaches uncomfortable.
• 35:02
  Speaker 1: Because I think a lot of coaches are kind of insecure.
• 35:06
  Speaker 1: So they come, well, you never say anything because it's
• 35:07
  Speaker 1: really hard to back up. Ben Johnson said it because
• 35:10
  Speaker 1: he believes it. And I was actually met a guy
• 35:13
  Speaker 1: probably like a month ago. And I was introduced to
• 35:17
  Speaker 1: him by a guy, didn't know anything about him. He
• 35:20
  Speaker 1: said he grew up in Philly. We started talking eagles,
• 35:22
  Speaker 1: like most human beings I interact with. Our conversation comes
• 35:26
  Speaker 1: to football. And we talked for like 10 minutes, saw
• 35:29
  Speaker 1: him before I ate dinner. And then after I ate dinner,
• 35:31
  Speaker 1: he came back by with his wife. And I probably
• 35:34
  Speaker 1: talk football the majority of our conversations. And after I
• 35:37
  Speaker 1: found out, this guy is the CEO. This guy's been
• 35:41
  Speaker 1: in his mid-60s. CEO of one of the biggest companies
• 35:44
  Speaker 1: in the state of Arizona. I think by market cap,
• 35:46
  Speaker 1: they're a public company. It is. And you never would
• 35:50
  Speaker 1: have known it. And I think it's always impressive when
• 35:52
  Speaker 1: you meet a guy who's really, really successful, and you
• 35:54
  Speaker 1: tell someone, like, he's the most humble guy I've ever met.
• 35:57
  Speaker 1: You wouldn't even... The guy might have been like the
• 35:59
  Speaker 1: janitor at the high school for a while. He never
• 36:02
  Speaker 1: even came up. And then you meet some people, and
• 36:04
  Speaker 1: we all know these people. We've heard stories about these
• 36:06
  Speaker 1: people that are just pretty arrogant and cocky. And a
• 36:10
  Speaker 1: lot of times that human rubs the majority of people
• 36:14
  Speaker 1: the wrong way. I don't have a huge issue with
• 36:18
  Speaker 1: it if you back it up. And I'm not just
• 36:21
  Speaker 1: talking athletes, business. Some people just carry themselves. Good-looking people
• 36:26
  Speaker 1: carry themselves like this. Their shit don't stink. Well, you
• 36:30
  Speaker 1: can't carry yourself like your shit don't stink if you
• 36:32
  Speaker 1: can't afford the rent. You know, you can't carry yourself
• 36:36
  Speaker 1: like you're the best coach ever when you've never had
• 36:38
  Speaker 1: a winning record. But when you say you're one of
• 36:40
  Speaker 1: the best offense of all time and you go on
• 36:42
  Speaker 1: the road week one, I'm not acting like this is
• 36:45
  Speaker 1: the 85 Bears, the Carolina Panthers. You score 59 points.
• 36:49
  Speaker 1: It'd be one thing. It's like, well, they had three
• 36:51
  Speaker 1: defensive touchdowns. They were all offensive touchdowns. They were all
• 36:55
  Speaker 1: offensive touchdowns. Caleb's hitting balls left and right. Running backs
• 36:59
  Speaker 1: are busting runs left and right. Caleb's running left and right.
• 37:02
  Speaker 1: It was remarkable. The Panthers' offense wasn't even that bad.
• 37:06
  Speaker 1: They scored 37 points. I looked around like, how many
• 37:08
  Speaker 1: teams today scored more than the Panthers? I mean, it
• 37:14
  Speaker 1: was the Ravens did. And is that it? Like, who
• 37:20
  Speaker 1: else scored? The Ravens did. I think that's it. I mean,
• 37:26
  Speaker 1: the Panthers scored more. The Bills, who we're going to
• 37:29
  Speaker 1: talk about right now, we're all going to be like,
• 37:31
  Speaker 1: what a game. The Panthers scored more than the Bills. Now,
• 37:34
  Speaker 1: the Bears' defense isn't very good, and that's an issue,
• 37:37
  Speaker 1: but that's a personnel issue. But, like, Ben said that.
• 37:41
  Speaker 1: I rubbed a lot of people the wrong way. He
• 37:42
  Speaker 1: kind of backed it up. You know who rubbed a
• 37:45
  Speaker 1: lot of people the wrong way for a long time
• 37:47
  Speaker 1: early in his career? Kyle Shanahan. I bet a lot
• 37:49
  Speaker 1: of people over the years have talked a lot of
• 37:51
  Speaker 1: shit about McVay. Sometimes the talented people make other people
• 37:55
  Speaker 1: envious because they wish they were that good. And I
• 38:00
  Speaker 1: think Ben Johnson is just a superstar. And they had
• 38:03
  Speaker 1: a comment on the broadcast. One reason I was slow
• 38:07
  Speaker 1: to come around is because I'm like, you know, he
• 38:10
  Speaker 1: comes from Jared Goff, who's the opposite style player. You
• 38:13
  Speaker 1: look at Ben Johnson, the type of player he would
• 38:16
  Speaker 1: have been. He doesn't even relate to Caleb's capabilities. And
• 38:20
  Speaker 1: it was a little rocky last year. And they mentioned
• 38:23
  Speaker 1: on the broadcast, after he proved it to him last year,
• 38:25
  Speaker 1: he's like, when you got to run, run. I don't
• 38:28
  Speaker 1: be you, essentially. And you saw today a couple times
• 38:31
  Speaker 1: when he ran for his two sweet touchdowns. I think
• 38:35
  Speaker 1: Caleb's very comfortable in trying to impress or not trying
• 38:42
  Speaker 1: to impress and just play Ben Johnson. For a long
• 38:45
  Speaker 1: time with Lincoln, they were just in it together. I'm
• 38:48
  Speaker 1: not trying to impress you. We're just kind of a team.
• 38:51
  Speaker 1: And I think Ben, like even after the game, when
• 38:53
  Speaker 1: he's giving out game balls, he's giving out game balls
• 38:55
  Speaker 1: to DeAndre Swift. He's giving out game balls to the
• 38:57
  Speaker 1: offensive line. I don't feel he feels obligated to like,
• 39:00
  Speaker 1: I got to give a game ball to my quarterback,
• 39:01
  Speaker 1: to our relationship. Like the relationship's great. Caleb's got the
• 39:04
  Speaker 1: mustache going. His physical capability is, like you watch Lamar
• 39:10
  Speaker 1: and Josh today, it's right there. And his horsepower throwing
• 39:14
  Speaker 1: the ball is obviously greater than Lamar's. And his speed
• 39:17
  Speaker 1: is probably not as top end as Lamar, but probably
• 39:21
  Speaker 1: faster than Josh. I mean, he is he is a,
• 39:23
  Speaker 1: he's a special talent. And, and my knock always was like,
• 39:27
  Speaker 1: you know, he just, the inaccuracy looked pretty accurate today.
• 39:31
  Speaker 1: I mean, he was, he was accurate. The touch pass,
• 39:33
  Speaker 1: the touchdown to commit. That's, that's football porn. That, that play, the,
• 39:40
  Speaker 1: the play designed by Ben, the execution and throw by,
• 39:43
  Speaker 1: by Caleb, uh, incredible catch by their number two tight
• 39:48
  Speaker 1: end pass catching wise. I mean, Loveland, obviously is a
• 39:50
  Speaker 1: more dynamic pass catcher than Komet. But if Komet's, Komet
• 39:54
  Speaker 1: can play for my team any day of the week
• 39:55
  Speaker 1: as well. So the Bears, I always admire young coaches
• 40:00
  Speaker 1: that like running the ball because that's how you add
• 40:03
  Speaker 1: physical presence, you know, to a game. And they just,
• 40:07
  Speaker 1: I think Caleb said, I haven't seen the clip. I
• 40:11
  Speaker 1: just saw a headline that he was shaking Canales' hand, said,
• 40:14
  Speaker 1: you have a great defense. Maybe he was just trying
• 40:16
  Speaker 1: to be nice. Maybe he was being tongue in cheek.
• 40:18
  Speaker 1: I don't know. I got to go back and watch it, but. man,
• 40:22
  Speaker 1: the Bears and the Packers feel like they're going in
• 40:24
  Speaker 1: opposite directions. The opposite directions. And sometimes that happens with franchises,
• 40:30
  Speaker 1: and it feels like it's on full display right now.
• 40:33
  Speaker 1: Speaking of guys both going in the same direction, Josh
• 40:36
  Speaker 1: Allen and Lamar Jackson, they both looked incredible today. Quick,
• 40:41
  Speaker 1: I don't want to apologize, only week one, but I
• 40:45
  Speaker 1: didn't pick you guys to make the playoffs. I said
• 40:47
  Speaker 1: I didn't know about Declan Doyle. You know, you never
• 40:50
  Speaker 1: know with a first-time head coach. What's Lamar going to be?
• 40:53
  Speaker 1: It'll be fun. Because, listen, Colts probably not a playoff team,
• 40:57
  Speaker 1: but it's not like you're playing the Miami Dolphins. Colts
• 40:59
  Speaker 1: should win seven, eight games. They beat the living crap
• 41:03
  Speaker 1: out of it. That was, if you were doing an
• 41:05
  Speaker 1: AP poll for tomorrow, I would have the Ravens won.
• 41:10
  Speaker 1: It'd be like Ravens-Bills-Niners or something, you know? Seattle would
• 41:15
  Speaker 1: be right there, too. But the Ravens just... The reason
• 41:19
  Speaker 1: you'd have the Ravens over the Bills, like, we still
• 41:20
  Speaker 1: got a Bills defense, got some holes. The Ravens today,
• 41:25
  Speaker 1: I mean, Derrick Henry looks like he's 24 for like
• 41:28
  Speaker 1: 10 straight years. Lamar, just peak of his powers. Now,
• 41:31
  Speaker 1: they did have some injuries, but defensively, I mean, maybe
• 41:34
  Speaker 1: Jesse Minter is the next Mike McDonald. I mean, he
• 41:37
  Speaker 1: literally replaced him, essentially, for Jim Harbaugh, and then never
• 41:41
  Speaker 1: left Jim Harbaugh. And then it was with Jim Harbaugh, they...
• 41:45
  Speaker 1: Chargers actually looked good on defense, which they did not
• 41:47
  Speaker 1: today when Jacoby and the boys were lighting them up
• 41:50
  Speaker 1: like a Christmas tree. But that was a beatdown. That
• 41:57
  Speaker 1: was an absolute beatdown in Indianapolis. And I think if
• 42:01
  Speaker 1: you're indie, you just hope, well, it might just be
• 42:03
  Speaker 1: the best team in the league. Let's just lick our
• 42:04
  Speaker 1: wounds and figure it out next week. Or it's like,
• 42:09
  Speaker 1: we have no chance against good teams. So I apologize.
• 42:13
  Speaker 1: I was wrong. At least through one week, but clearly
• 42:16
  Speaker 1: the Ravens. A little weird to me. I don't know DaCosta.
• 42:21
  Speaker 1: Tried to introduce myself to him at the Combine. He's
• 42:25
  Speaker 1: a little bit of a cold guy. He's an East Coaster.
• 42:29
  Speaker 1: I'm a West Coaster. A little oil and water. Usually
• 42:33
  Speaker 1: some of my lines work, create a conversation. It did not.
• 42:36
  Speaker 1: It actually backfired. So, you know, you have an interaction
• 42:40
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• 42:42
  Speaker 1: I know some people that know him that aren't the
• 42:44
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• 42:48
  Speaker 1: I do think it's a little bizarre being on the
• 42:50
  Speaker 1: sideline in your suit the entire game for your young
• 42:55
  Speaker 1: coach's first game. A little weird. Is he on the
• 42:58
  Speaker 1: sideline for every game? I don't know. The Max Crosby thing,
• 43:05
  Speaker 1: he's done it a lot. He's just... He's good at
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• 44:28
  Speaker 1: like the Texans today. And my take was simply like,
• 44:30
  Speaker 1: you know, styles make fights. It's just a bad matchup
• 44:33
  Speaker 1: for bills. Um, last year they sacked Josh eight times
• 44:37
  Speaker 1: and it could have been 15. Yeah. You know, my
• 44:42
  Speaker 1: biggest question Mark was like, is CJ Stroud going to
• 44:45
  Speaker 1: be a solid player this year? And today he was solid.
• 44:49
  Speaker 1: He just played the best player on the planet. I mean,
• 44:53
  Speaker 1: What Josh Allen did today, besides his one play he
• 44:57
  Speaker 1: got bailed out on, which it's football, it happens, he
• 45:00
  Speaker 1: was remarkable. He was a man playing with boys. Kincaid
• 45:06
  Speaker 1: was a dominant tight end today. DJ Moore had an
• 45:09
  Speaker 1: incredible sideline catch that he took to the house. And
• 45:13
  Speaker 1: Josh had a couple runs that were just like Cam
• 45:17
  Speaker 1: Newton-like in his prime. So I believe in Joe Brady.
• 45:23
  Speaker 1: And listen, call me a sap, quick interaction with him
• 45:27
  Speaker 1: off his introductory press conference. I just think he's really,
• 45:29
  Speaker 1: really impressive. And a lot like Minter, you never really
• 45:33
  Speaker 1: know these great coordinators to the beginning. You immediately see
• 45:36
  Speaker 1: their power. Like Minter, defense, awesome. Joe Brady, offense, awesome.
• 45:42
  Speaker 1: And the other thing is he like empowers Josh. Like
• 45:46
  Speaker 1: this is not, I'm not like a jockey pulling back
• 45:50
  Speaker 1: on you, getting you to slow down. I want you
• 45:52
  Speaker 1: to let it rip. Play free. I thought both Lamar
• 45:56
  Speaker 1: and Josh were just like, rains off. And even Ben
• 45:59
  Speaker 1: with Caleb. Let it rip. Be you. Let your talent shine.
• 46:04
  Speaker 1: Steve Kerr's greatest attribute that he brought to the Warriors
• 46:07
  Speaker 1: was like, Steph, dude, just do whatever you need to do.
• 46:10
  Speaker 1: If you're going to shoot from half court, I don't
• 46:12
  Speaker 1: give a shit. Just be you. Cook. Sometimes it's going
• 46:17
  Speaker 1: to look weird. Sometimes it'll backfire. But more often than not,
• 46:21
  Speaker 1: Your talent will supersede, exceed, and just overmatch whoever our
• 46:27
  Speaker 1: opponent is. And that's what it felt like Josh did.
• 46:31
  Speaker 1: I watched the Texans extremely closely last year. I had
• 46:34
  Speaker 1: multiple shackles on them for different things. And they got
• 46:41
  Speaker 1: off to a slow start, but their defense never, I
• 46:44
  Speaker 1: don't ever remember it looking like this. They were getting
• 46:48
  Speaker 1: smoked all game long. I got news for you. I
• 46:51
  Speaker 1: don't think it'll look like that very often anymore either.
• 46:54
  Speaker 1: You know why they don't play Josh Allen every week.
• 46:57
  Speaker 1: I mean, it was absurd. They were last year's a
• 47:02
  Speaker 1: good player. They were attacking him. They were attacking the
• 47:05
  Speaker 1: middle of the field. They were just attacking. Now the
• 47:08
  Speaker 1: problem with the bills and maybe this will get better
• 47:11
  Speaker 1: with Jim Leonard is their defense does not look great. Uh,
• 47:16
  Speaker 1: I don't know if maybe CJ was playing well or
• 47:18
  Speaker 1: their defense just isn't good. Time will tell. Obviously, CJ,
• 47:22
  Speaker 1: I think people will crush him for melting down on
• 47:24
  Speaker 1: that final drive. The only thing I'd knock him on is, like,
• 47:29
  Speaker 1: if you watch Deshaun Watson, which, by the way, anyone
• 47:34
  Speaker 1: watching Lioness, that show, it's when I stayed in L.A.
• 47:38
  Speaker 1: for the week to do FS1, I just downloaded them
• 47:40
  Speaker 1: all and I just powered through. And now I'm just
• 47:42
  Speaker 1: watching this new season. It's, it's, it's right up my alley.
• 47:45
  Speaker 1: It's made for me. Well, in this new, in the
• 47:48
  Speaker 1: latest season, like the, the star kind of like lead
• 47:52
  Speaker 1: Navy SEAL chick has been abducted by Russians. And I
• 47:56
  Speaker 1: think they're trying to get her out of the country
• 47:57
  Speaker 1: to give to Iran so they can just like do
• 48:00
  Speaker 1: all sorts of heinous stuff to her. But she's currently
• 48:03
  Speaker 1: kind of being tortured in like, in like safe houses that,
• 48:08
  Speaker 1: our Navy SEAL group kind of can't find. And it looks,
• 48:11
  Speaker 1: I mean, she's got a toe cut off. It looks
• 48:13
  Speaker 1: pretty miserable. She could have been waterboarded, just different torture techniques.
• 48:18
  Speaker 1: It looks miserable. When your team sucks at football forever,
• 48:23
  Speaker 1: it's the football equivalent of being waterboarded. That's what I
• 48:26
  Speaker 1: felt like. Like, I don't know that many Browns fans.
• 48:30
  Speaker 1: I know there are a lot of them. It's a
• 48:32
  Speaker 1: big football area. I feel for you because it sucks.
• 48:38
  Speaker 1: When your team just sucks in perpetuity, it's like, oh,
• 48:42
  Speaker 1: we got a lot of picks now. Oh, we're doing
• 48:44
  Speaker 1: this move. Oh, we're doing that. It's like nothing ever changes.
• 48:46
  Speaker 1: Not that anyone expected it to change this year because
• 48:49
  Speaker 1: you got Deshaun Watson, but you're going to be forced
• 48:52
  Speaker 1: to watch him play. Titans too. I mean, the Titans
• 48:56
  Speaker 1: and Browns, they stink. Think how lucky the Giants are
• 49:03
  Speaker 1: because Brian Dayball desperately wanted to get Cam Ward. He
• 49:08
  Speaker 1: was offering first round picks, second round picks, and they
• 49:10
  Speaker 1: were told no. And it ended up giving you Jackson Dart.
• 49:14
  Speaker 1: It's why the draft is such a crazy exercise. So
• 49:17
  Speaker 1: many variables, so many unknowns. things you think at the time,
• 49:21
  Speaker 1: like you love this player over this player. Three years later,
• 49:25
  Speaker 1: you're gifted the player you didn't like as much because
• 49:27
  Speaker 1: the way the draft fell. And then you look back
• 49:30
  Speaker 1: and you go, that is insane. I saw this thing
• 49:32
  Speaker 1: on my Instagram where Todd Haley, I forget where he
• 49:37
  Speaker 1: was doing the interview. But he was working for the
• 49:39
  Speaker 1: Browns at the time, and he was begging Jimmy Haslam. Now,
• 49:42
  Speaker 1: maybe he's just saying it now. It's like when Danny
• 49:45
  Speaker 1: Ainge used to say, like, we were going to draft
• 49:47
  Speaker 1: Drayvon Green. Well, you had two picks, and you didn't
• 49:49
  Speaker 1: take them. It's like, easy to say now. It's like,
• 49:51
  Speaker 1: we had this guy number three on our board. Everyone
• 49:53
  Speaker 1: says it like four years later. It's like, I had
• 49:56
  Speaker 1: Dak Prescott in the top ten. But Todd Haley was
• 50:00
  Speaker 1: telling Jimmy Haslam, because they had the first pick and
• 50:03
  Speaker 1: the fourth pick. And they ended up taking Baker and
• 50:05
  Speaker 1: Denzel Ward. So, not bad. He wanted to take Saquon
• 50:08
  Speaker 1: at one and Josh Allen at four. He was adamant
• 50:11
  Speaker 1: about it. He was telling me, like, I kind of
• 50:15
  Speaker 1: believe him. But sometimes you don't, or if you're the Bills,
• 50:21
  Speaker 1: imagine if that happened. You don't end up with Josh Allen.
• 50:24
  Speaker 1: Maybe you end up with Baker, or you end up
• 50:26
  Speaker 1: with Sam Darnold. Like, the butterfly effect of this stuff,
• 50:30
  Speaker 1: when you look back, has massive ramifications. And Josh Allen, obviously,
• 50:36
  Speaker 1: I think it's fair to say, is by far the
• 50:41
  Speaker 1: best thing that ever happened to the Bills. Sometimes it's
• 50:44
  Speaker 1: a coach. You could say Mahomes and Andy are tied
• 50:52
  Speaker 1: because the Chiefs were a complete joke. But obviously Mahomes
• 50:55
  Speaker 1: took them to another level. I think you'd say the
• 50:57
  Speaker 1: same thing for Walsh and Montana. You know, if you're
• 51:00
  Speaker 1: the Cowboys in the 90s, you'd say like Jimmy Johnson.
• 51:03
  Speaker 1: You know, every situation is a little bit different. With
• 51:05
  Speaker 1: the Bills, it's not even... It's just... Sean McDermott played
• 51:09
  Speaker 1: a big role. And he was very important. But Josh Allen,
• 51:13
  Speaker 1: to me, is much closer to like LeBron... Like an
• 51:16
  Speaker 1: NBA-level player impact. Like what Jokic is to the Denver Nuggets. Like...
• 51:21
  Speaker 1: This guy is the franchise. I see it with the
• 51:23
  Speaker 1: Warriors with Steph Curry. Like, this guy is the franchise.
• 51:26
  Speaker 1: If you remove this guy... It's like when I watch
• 51:29
  Speaker 1: Ole Miss play with Trinidad. If you put like Arch
• 51:32
  Speaker 1: Manning or Bryce Underwood or one of those type guys
• 51:35
  Speaker 1: for Ole Miss, I don't even think they'd win six games.
• 51:38
  Speaker 1: You watch the Bills, if they just had like a normal,
• 51:41
  Speaker 1: if I just put Kirk Cousins on the Bills, I
• 51:44
  Speaker 1: don't think they'd win six games. I don't. If you
• 51:49
  Speaker 1: put Jared Goff on the Bills, I would remove, and
• 51:53
  Speaker 1: I think Jared Goff, hell, he might be my, I
• 51:55
  Speaker 1: picked him to win the MVP like two weeks ago.
• 51:59
  Speaker 1: I think they would struggle to win 10 because he
• 52:01
  Speaker 1: can't move. It's remarkable how much this guy means to
• 52:08
  Speaker 1: the franchise. And it's fun to watch. Where the Texans
• 52:10
  Speaker 1: are a good example, they don't need CJ Stratton to
• 52:12
  Speaker 1: be that. They've seen him kind of play like today.
• 52:15
  Speaker 1: But one thing, and I got off tangent there, is
• 52:18
  Speaker 1: he backs up too far in the pocket. And then
• 52:22
  Speaker 1: he gets kind of choppy feet. Where you've got to
• 52:24
  Speaker 1: step up in the pocket to deliver. Because he made
• 52:26
  Speaker 1: a ton of nice throws today. He played much better
• 52:30
  Speaker 1: than I expected. He played much better today, I thought,
• 52:34
  Speaker 1: as a whole, than the guy we witnessed last year.
• 52:37
  Speaker 1: And if he plays like that, they'll be okay. Bengals,
• 52:42
  Speaker 1: Jalen Hurts, Tyler Shuck. I think the best part about
• 52:45
  Speaker 1: the Bengals' win today is that Joe Burrow was okay.
• 52:49
  Speaker 1: Jamar Chase had two catches. Joe Burrow threw a pick six.
• 52:53
  Speaker 1: Trust me, Joe Burrow's on my fantasy team. I was
• 52:56
  Speaker 1: wanting like four or five touchdowns. That did not happen.
• 52:59
  Speaker 1: It's not like Joe Burrow looked like Josh Allen or
• 53:01
  Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson today. Or Caleb Williams. He was fine. But
• 53:07
  Speaker 1: like the guy everyone's like, this guy's going to demand
• 53:09
  Speaker 1: a trade if it doesn't work. That's not one of
• 53:12
  Speaker 1: the best players in the league we saw today. Little
• 53:14
  Speaker 1: rocky start. Typically when the Bengals have that, they lose. Well,
• 53:18
  Speaker 1: their defense, they forced four fumbles. Got all four. Their
• 53:23
  Speaker 1: defensive line, and I was talking to Colin earlier today, like,
• 53:27
  Speaker 1: their fumbles on Baker were legit. Like, okay, this is
• 53:31
  Speaker 1: a physical team. That's why I believed in them. Because
• 53:34
  Speaker 1: I think this team is well-rounded. Like, you watch them
• 53:38
  Speaker 1: and you watch the Steelers, and I get it, you know,
• 53:40
  Speaker 1: McCarthy's first game. Like, the Bengals are better than the Steelers.
• 53:45
  Speaker 1: And Even a couple years ago when the Ravens were good,
• 53:49
  Speaker 1: the year after they were the one seed and they lost,
• 53:51
  Speaker 1: I think, to the Bills in the second round when
• 53:54
  Speaker 1: Mark Andrews dropped the ball, the Bengals lost twice to
• 53:57
  Speaker 1: them when they went 9-8, but their defense allowed like
• 54:00
  Speaker 1: 700 points in those two games. And I think Burrow
• 54:03
  Speaker 1: combined for nine touchdowns in the two games. They lost
• 54:06
  Speaker 1: them both. So if you just get a more well-rounded team,
• 54:09
  Speaker 1: you can be a real contender. It's why I thought
• 54:12
  Speaker 1: their defense was going to be better, and their defense
• 54:14
  Speaker 1: today definitely was better. Now, are the Bucs as potent
• 54:18
  Speaker 1: on offense as they've been in years past? Probably not.
• 54:21
  Speaker 1: I mean, Baker made some nice plays. You lose three
• 54:26
  Speaker 1: fumbles as a quarterback, one in the red zone. I
• 54:29
  Speaker 1: would guess if we did a study, you lose 95%
• 54:31
  Speaker 1: of the time. Three fumbles and lose them all, that's
• 54:36
  Speaker 1: pretty bad. But that's part of Baker. Because he ran
• 54:40
  Speaker 1: in a touchdown doing what he did when he loses
• 54:42
  Speaker 1: his fumbles. He kind of just runs around. And I'm
• 54:44
  Speaker 1: a Baker fan. But it's a little bit of a
• 54:46
  Speaker 1: rollercoaster ride. I think the Bucs would be fine. Relative, like,
• 54:50
  Speaker 1: 9-10 win game. 10 wins wins that division for sure,
• 54:54
  Speaker 1: the South. Where the Bengals, like, you want to win
• 54:58
  Speaker 1: the North. I mean, the Steelers are just going to
• 55:01
  Speaker 1: win a lot of games. And obviously the Ravens play
• 55:03
  Speaker 1: like that. They're going to win a ton of games. Like,
• 55:04
  Speaker 1: it probably takes 12 or 13. Like, you got to
• 55:07
  Speaker 1: be good. And today I feel pretty good because I
• 55:09
  Speaker 1: would expect Higgins made some sweet catches, but Jamar Chase,
• 55:15
  Speaker 1: two for 12, like he's going to have some 12
• 55:17
  Speaker 1: for 200. And when that happens, the offensive scoreboard will
• 55:21
  Speaker 1: light up. And the final score, I think that they
• 55:25
  Speaker 1: won by six, but it felt they were dominating. They
• 55:28
  Speaker 1: were dominating when Joe threw the pick six to Trotter
• 55:32
  Speaker 1: and the game became a little closer than it actually was.
• 55:35
  Speaker 1: Sometimes scorers, don't reflect what you witness watching on your couch.
• 55:39
  Speaker 1: Like the Cardinals score. The Cardinals beat the crap out
• 55:43
  Speaker 1: of the Chargers. The Chargers got worked. Now, do I
• 55:49
  Speaker 1: think the Chargers are going to be bad this year?
• 55:51
  Speaker 1: I don't. But, like, don't love the running back. You know,
• 55:56
  Speaker 1: McConkie got crushed over the middle. We'll see. He come
• 55:59
  Speaker 1: back in that game. You know, special teams mishap. It's...
• 56:05
  Speaker 1: Definitely concerning. The Cardinals are a weird, bad team. I mean,
• 56:09
  Speaker 1: technically they're 1-0 right now. They have a lot of
• 56:11
  Speaker 1: good players. Offensively, they're pretty loaded. And Jacoby's been playing
• 56:14
  Speaker 1: well now for like 12, 13 straight games. This isn't
• 56:18
  Speaker 1: some random guy, you know, lifetime nobody. Like, this guy's
• 56:23
  Speaker 1: played a lot of football, and he's clearly playing the
• 56:24
  Speaker 1: best football of his life. But that was a beatdown.
• 56:27
  Speaker 1: Justin Herbert, awful interception. They kept showing Madison Beers. The
• 56:33
  Speaker 1: NFL and these networks are clearly, when these people have
• 56:37
  Speaker 1: popular girlfriends, they're doing everything humanly possible to involve the
• 56:42
  Speaker 1: female demo. It is so evident with them showing this
• 56:46
  Speaker 1: stuff because they know your girlfriends and wives, if they're younger,
• 56:50
  Speaker 1: know exactly who this person is. I don't even know
• 56:52
  Speaker 1: who this person is. Actor or singer? Actress or singer?
• 56:55
  Speaker 1: I don't even know. I don't even care. Good for Justin.
• 56:58
  Speaker 1: I know this. Jim Harbaugh wants you to play better.
• 57:01
  Speaker 1: They got worked. They got worked. I can't believe Mike
• 57:06
  Speaker 1: LaFleur won and Matt LaFleur lost. It's stunning that that happened.
• 57:14
  Speaker 1: The Eagles, Jalen started off well. Jalen is, I do
• 57:20
  Speaker 1: believe he's like one of the most bizarre players in
• 57:22
  Speaker 1: NFL history. Because if you watch a good drive, you're like, God,
• 57:25
  Speaker 1: he's really good. Look at that beautiful ball. Look at
• 57:28
  Speaker 1: that deep go route perfectly placed. Look at that nice
• 57:31
  Speaker 1: touchdown on the back of the end zone. Like, look
• 57:34
  Speaker 1: at that fantastic run. And then they'll have stretches where
• 57:37
  Speaker 1: they'll have, like, three-place punt, five-place punt, three-place punt, six-place punt.
• 57:45
  Speaker 1: You're like, how is this possible? And he had a
• 57:49
  Speaker 1: long run today in the fourth quarter. I do think
• 57:53
  Speaker 1: if he would run more, I know he ended up
• 57:55
  Speaker 1: with seven for 42, but, like, I never feel like Lamar...
• 58:01
  Speaker 1: Josh and now Caleb, like they'll do whatever it takes
• 58:04
  Speaker 1: to get the first down. Jalen at his core wants
• 58:07
  Speaker 1: to be this pocket passer. Like he's kind of got
• 58:10
  Speaker 1: the Russell thing going. If he would just let it
• 58:12
  Speaker 1: rip running and passing, I think their offense would just
• 58:18
  Speaker 1: get less like put in neutral. And part of it
• 58:21
  Speaker 1: is their offensive line is clearly not as good as
• 58:23
  Speaker 1: it once was. Some of the guys that they invested
• 58:25
  Speaker 1: in are just not playing as well because they can't
• 58:28
  Speaker 1: just lean on Saquon and run for a buck 40.
• 58:32
  Speaker 1: I mean, he had 80 yards a day and 40 plus,
• 58:35
  Speaker 1: I think 43 of them came on the one carry.
• 58:37
  Speaker 1: And then he basically had 14 carries for 40 yards. So,
• 58:41
  Speaker 1: I mean, back in his great season, he just had
• 58:43
  Speaker 1: a lot of 150 to 180-yard games. So you could
• 58:46
  Speaker 1: just lean on the guy. And that's why you don't
• 58:49
  Speaker 1: go three and out as often when your running back's
• 58:51
  Speaker 1: going for $ 1. 50. Ask Ben Johnson and the Bears. Ask
• 58:55
  Speaker 1: Jesse Minter, Lamar Jackson, and the Ravens. When you have
• 58:57
  Speaker 1: a guy going for 130, 140, 150 yards– like you're
• 59:01
  Speaker 1: just not gonna have that many three and out punts.
• 59:04
  Speaker 1: And when you have three and out punts, even if
• 59:07
  Speaker 1: you're better than the other team, you just keep them
• 59:09
  Speaker 1: in the game. You just do, especially if it's coming
• 59:14
  Speaker 1: off a score from them because you're going to give
• 59:15
  Speaker 1: them decent field position. They're going to get the ball
• 59:17
  Speaker 1: at like 30 or 40 yard line more than likely.
• 59:21
  Speaker 1: But they're 1-0. Some cool shots of their coordinator in
• 59:24
  Speaker 1: the press box. I love a good coordinator press box shot.
• 59:29
  Speaker 1: especially a young guy. That's just like, yeah, the Ken
• 59:33
  Speaker 1: Dorsey one where he was really pissed off. There was
• 59:36
  Speaker 1: David Blau. I was listening. I think Brady was calling
• 59:39
  Speaker 1: the game when they, uh, said that he learned how
• 59:42
  Speaker 1: to call plays on Madden. Not what I love to hear.
• 59:46
  Speaker 1: I often think about Colin whenever I see Dan Quinn,
• 59:49
  Speaker 1: the backwards hat. I'm like, Hey, can't love that. Uh,
• 59:52
  Speaker 1: Sonny styles did made, I mean, blitz of the day
• 59:54
  Speaker 1: blew up Saquon. I like that pair. Uh, What else?
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 1: I mean, the story of the day before the day
• 1:00:02
  Speaker 1: even started. This Miles Garrett thing is a problem. It
• 1:00:08
  Speaker 1: really is. Because if you watched him play, which everyone did,
• 1:00:11
  Speaker 1: I can imagine on Netflix, millions upon millions of people
• 1:00:14
  Speaker 1: watch that game. He not only looked just bad and
• 1:00:17
  Speaker 1: out of it, he looked like out of shape. Because
• 1:00:20
  Speaker 1: when your knees banged up, it's hard for you to
• 1:00:22
  Speaker 1: stay in shape because it's hard for you to work out.
• 1:00:25
  Speaker 1: It's hard for you to practice. Well, now he's getting
• 1:00:27
  Speaker 1: knee surgery, so that's only going to accelerate the negative,
• 1:00:33
  Speaker 1: you know, out of shape, not being able to practice.
• 1:00:35
  Speaker 1: It's only going to get worse. This could be a disaster.
• 1:00:38
  Speaker 1: There is no such thing as a super team in
• 1:00:41
  Speaker 1: the NFL. It does not exist. It has never existed
• 1:00:44
  Speaker 1: in the salary cap era. Pre-salary cap era, it existed.
• 1:00:48
  Speaker 1: You could be the Niners and just buy a bunch
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 1: of players and have a two deep. Your backup quarterback
• 1:00:53
  Speaker 1: could be Steve Young and he just can't lead the franchise.
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 1: The Cowboys had a loaded roster and the guys were
• 1:00:57
  Speaker 1: just kind of stuck. That's not the case anymore, especially nowadays.
• 1:01:01
  Speaker 1: There is no such thing. And when guys are available,
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 1: they're typically available for a reason. Micah Parsons is an
• 1:01:09
  Speaker 1: elite player. I wouldn't say he's the perfect player off
• 1:01:13
  Speaker 1: the field. I'm not talking like in trouble. I'm just
• 1:01:17
  Speaker 1: talking like football character stuff. There's only so many guys,
• 1:01:21
  Speaker 1: especially on defense, that are Aaron Donald. He's like, hardest worker,
• 1:01:30
  Speaker 1: most in shape, most dominant player, great leader. Everyone loves him.
• 1:01:36
  Speaker 1: Sitting in the front of the room with notes. A
• 1:01:39
  Speaker 1: lot of defensive guys are fucking wild cards. And Myles
• 1:01:42
  Speaker 1: Garrett's always been a little bit of a wild card.
• 1:01:44
  Speaker 1: But he was an unstoppable pass rusher, which was true.
• 1:01:48
  Speaker 1: Because he's like 6'5, can bend, he's powerful, doesn't get tired,
• 1:01:52
  Speaker 1: he's a beast. Now he's injured. and you just traded
• 1:01:55
  Speaker 1: a boatload for him. And one of them is just
• 1:01:59
  Speaker 1: Jared Verse, who I'd have to check the game logs,
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 1: but has Jared Verse missed a lot of games over
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 1: the last couple years? Could be wrong, but I don't...
• 1:02:13
  Speaker 1: He's never missed a game in two years. He played
• 1:02:18
  Speaker 1: all 17 his rookie year, started 16 of them, and
• 1:02:20
  Speaker 1: last year was 17 for 17. 17 games, 17 starts.
• 1:02:24
  Speaker 1: So one quality he's brought, he's not as good as
• 1:02:28
  Speaker 1: Myles Garrett, and obviously from a sack standpoint, he only
• 1:02:31
  Speaker 1: has 12 sacks in two years. Last year he improved
• 1:02:33
  Speaker 1: on a 7.5. He was a durable player. He was
• 1:02:37
  Speaker 1: durable and cheap because he drafted in the middle of
• 1:02:39
  Speaker 1: the teens. Then you bring this guy who makes a
• 1:02:41
  Speaker 1: ton of money, who wants to go to L.A., girlfriend
• 1:02:44
  Speaker 1: lives there, super team, all this hype, and now he's
• 1:02:48
  Speaker 1: just injured. Sometimes an injury, and no one wants to
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 1: get injured, But it's football and it happens. It happened
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 1: to the Packers and Micah Parsons derailed their franchise. There's
• 1:03:00
  Speaker 1: no way to, like, get around it. The injury, that
• 1:03:04
  Speaker 1: day Micah Parsons got injured, ever since to this day
• 1:03:07
  Speaker 1: today that I'm recording this Sunday night, September 13th, it
• 1:03:10
  Speaker 1: has derailed the Packers. They've acquired Myles Garrett. He barely
• 1:03:16
  Speaker 1: could function week one. And now he's just gone. So
• 1:03:20
  Speaker 1: think about, they'll go into next week, like, What's the
• 1:03:23
  Speaker 1: difference between their pass rush and the Giants' pass rush?
• 1:03:25
  Speaker 1: I mean, Brian Burns is a high-level player. Kayvon's solid.
• 1:03:30
  Speaker 1: And Abdul Carter has, like, should be a pro bowler. Now,
• 1:03:34
  Speaker 1: if Aaron Donald plays, like, Aaron Donald hasn't played in
• 1:03:36
  Speaker 1: two years. He wasn't ready to play week one. They
• 1:03:40
  Speaker 1: couldn't even travel him to the game. So, maybe he'll
• 1:03:43
  Speaker 1: be ready this week. Maybe he won't. I don't know.
• 1:03:44
  Speaker 1: Time will tell. But Myles Garrett is MIA. And part
• 1:03:48
  Speaker 1: of the super team was him. So... I never understood
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 1: the super team. They're a good team, just like a
• 1:03:55
  Speaker 1: lot of the other good teams. I think this notion
• 1:04:00
  Speaker 1: of you just plug this guy in, it's unstoppable. That's
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 1: just not how football works. This isn't baseball. When the
• 1:04:07
  Speaker 1: NFL and Tyler Shuck and the Lions, what a game.
• 1:04:13
  Speaker 1: When it was 21-0, I'll be honest, I kind of
• 1:04:15
  Speaker 1: stopped really paying attention to it. And then I look
• 1:04:18
  Speaker 1: back over, and they're driving, and it's like 21-17, and
• 1:04:20
  Speaker 1: they hit valet. in the corner of the end zone,
• 1:04:23
  Speaker 1: they're like, God, it's kind of a game. And I
• 1:04:27
  Speaker 1: would say the first half as someone that has, let's
• 1:04:30
  Speaker 1: just say a lot of stock in the saints, the
• 1:04:34
  Speaker 1: Ravens look like the best team ever. And the saints
• 1:04:36
  Speaker 1: look like the worst team ever specifically Tyler shock. I went,
• 1:04:39
  Speaker 1: I'm an idiot because if your quarterback is going to
• 1:04:42
  Speaker 1: look that bad, you have no chance. Tyler shock could
• 1:04:46
  Speaker 1: not have looked much worse in the first half. Like
• 1:04:48
  Speaker 1: it was, it was like arch Manning level. This is,
• 1:04:51
  Speaker 1: it was worse than arch. fumbles, tripping over himself, skipping ball.
• 1:04:56
  Speaker 1: It was awful. By the end of the fourth end
• 1:04:59
  Speaker 1: of the overtime, dude was slinging that rock. Olave just
• 1:05:05
  Speaker 1: play after play. He had Olave score on like three
• 1:05:08
  Speaker 1: different bombs. Obviously the one that led to the game
• 1:05:12
  Speaker 1: tying touchdown. They got him back in the game when
• 1:05:16
  Speaker 1: they were down 21-0 in overtime. I mean, Olave was
• 1:05:20
  Speaker 1: incredible today. Johnson, the tight end, was awesome. The Lions
• 1:05:25
  Speaker 1: treated Gibbs like Kyle Shanahan has treated Christian McCaffrey forever.
• 1:05:29
  Speaker 1: It felt like they gave it to him every play.
• 1:05:32
  Speaker 1: And when they weren't giving it to him, they were
• 1:05:33
  Speaker 1: either throwing to Jamison Williams, it was bouncing off his hands,
• 1:05:36
  Speaker 1: or they were throwing to Amon Ross St. Brown, like
• 1:05:38
  Speaker 1: a little curl route. But the downfall of the Lions
• 1:05:42
  Speaker 1: is not going to be, their offense is going to
• 1:05:44
  Speaker 1: be fine. Their defense, beside Aiden Hutchinson, it's got a
• 1:05:47
  Speaker 1: lot of question marks. I mean, they can't cover a
• 1:05:50
  Speaker 1: soul Tyler Shuck was shredding their defense for a team
• 1:05:56
  Speaker 1: that I thought could be the number one seed. I
• 1:05:58
  Speaker 1: was like, you know, I'm a little nervous about their defense.
• 1:06:00
  Speaker 1: I'm really nervous about their defense. That is a problem,
• 1:06:04
  Speaker 1: and Dan has to know it. I mean, they've invested
• 1:06:06
  Speaker 1: in that position from Brian Branch, Torres Achilles, to Terran Arnold,
• 1:06:09
  Speaker 1: who allegedly kidnapped some people and got cut. They just
• 1:06:13
  Speaker 1: got some issues. So Anzalone's now on the Bucs. You just,
• 1:06:20
  Speaker 1: it's just not good. And it puts a lot of
• 1:06:23
  Speaker 1: pressure on your offense. I think they've got to be
• 1:06:25
  Speaker 1: kind of careful. Gibbs is an incredible player. I mean, incredible.
• 1:06:30
  Speaker 1: I thought, like, I'm not a huge fantasy guy playing
• 1:06:32
  Speaker 1: in my first league. No big deal. Everyone's like, Gibbs, Gibbs, Gibbs, Gibbs.
• 1:06:36
  Speaker 1: Are you sure he's number one pick? I'm like, yeah.
• 1:06:39
  Speaker 1: Number one pick. I get it. Especially if they're going
• 1:06:41
  Speaker 1: to give him the ball, you know, get him like
• 1:06:44
  Speaker 1: 40 touches a game. I think you've got to be
• 1:06:46
  Speaker 1: a little careful with that. Like, if I'm a Lions fan, like, hey,
• 1:06:49
  Speaker 1: we got Jameson. Can you catch the ball? just so
• 1:06:52
  Speaker 1: we don't have to give it to him, this guy
• 1:06:53
  Speaker 1: on every play, because you know St. Brown's going to
• 1:06:55
  Speaker 1: get his 10 to 14 targets and catch most of them.
• 1:06:59
  Speaker 1: But I'd just be a little nervous that, like, I
• 1:07:02
  Speaker 1: don't know, can he maintain this? He's never had to
• 1:07:04
  Speaker 1: do it. And they're going to be so dependent on
• 1:07:07
  Speaker 1: him and the entire offense because their defense, Swiss cheese. Like,
• 1:07:10
  Speaker 1: if they played the Bears, I think 50, you'd have
• 1:07:15
  Speaker 1: to get above 50 to win that game, you know,
• 1:07:18
  Speaker 1: because the Bears probably scoring 45 to 50 in that game. Again,
• 1:07:21
  Speaker 1: the Lions, today they kind of hit a little rut
• 1:07:24
  Speaker 1: for a while. You know, new coordinator. But I felt
• 1:07:28
  Speaker 1: good that Chuck heated up, hit some plays, because he
• 1:07:31
  Speaker 1: looked like not trying to overreact. He looked like a
• 1:07:35
  Speaker 1: practice squad player in the first half. I don't know
• 1:07:38
  Speaker 1: if it was the pressure. I think I said on
• 1:07:40
  Speaker 1: last week's pod the game was in New Orleans. It
• 1:07:42
  Speaker 1: was in Detroit. So on the road, tough spot against
• 1:07:46
  Speaker 1: a really good team. It could have really gotten off
• 1:07:49
  Speaker 1: the rails. And he didn't just get that thing back
• 1:07:51
  Speaker 1: on the train tracks. He got it. He was making
• 1:07:54
  Speaker 1: play after play, throwing dimes. Just threw some beautiful passes.
• 1:08:00
  Speaker 1: I think he threw for almost 400 yards. That game,
• 1:08:05
  Speaker 1: the morning, the amount of fireworks on passes and touchdowns
• 1:08:09
  Speaker 1: was pretty fun. The afternoon games felt like a pretty
• 1:08:16
  Speaker 1: strong comedown. Not a drug guy, but I can imagine
• 1:08:19
  Speaker 1: what a drug comedown feels like is like the afternoon
• 1:08:22
  Speaker 1: slate today. Because the morning with Houston and Buffalo, which
• 1:08:26
  Speaker 1: was incredible, with the Bears game, which was just touchdown
• 1:08:30
  Speaker 1: after touchdown, to the Ravens game, just so much action
• 1:08:35
  Speaker 1: to then go to the afternoon. It was tough. It
• 1:08:38
  Speaker 1: was tough. I think highest scoring day, which makes sense because...
• 1:08:44
  Speaker 1: Dudes were scoring left and right. Now, part of that's
• 1:08:46
  Speaker 1: the rules, but typically this is a bad offensive performance week,
• 1:08:51
  Speaker 1: and that was not the case. Let's see if I
• 1:08:54
  Speaker 1: have any time. I'll just spend five minutes on this.
• 1:09:11
  Speaker 1: Really quick on the college. Arch Manning did not create
• 1:09:14
  Speaker 1: the hype on himself. And sometimes I push back against
• 1:09:18
  Speaker 1: it because I see all these media people that try
• 1:09:22
  Speaker 1: to say he's going to be the number one pick.
• 1:09:24
  Speaker 1: And I just think from a pure football standpoint, that's
• 1:09:27
  Speaker 1: an absurd notion based on the way he's played. Because
• 1:09:31
  Speaker 1: there's no position that ebbs and flows more than how
• 1:09:36
  Speaker 1: you play in college at quarterback. You can be a
• 1:09:39
  Speaker 1: great position player and have an up and down season,
• 1:09:43
  Speaker 1: and you still get drafted high. We see guys go
• 1:09:45
  Speaker 1: in the second round who are like five stars that
• 1:09:47
  Speaker 1: were complete underachievers their entire career when you do not
• 1:09:51
  Speaker 1: play well at quarterback you not get drafted and when
• 1:09:53
  Speaker 1: you play well at quarterback in college you get drafted
• 1:09:56
  Speaker 1: but you have to play well not just have the
• 1:09:59
  Speaker 1: physical capabilities and the talents those guys go in the
• 1:10:02
  Speaker 1: later rounds to get drafted number one overall you got
• 1:10:07
  Speaker 1: to do a lot in college and based on what
• 1:10:09
  Speaker 1: i saw last year that just wasn't the case and
• 1:10:11
  Speaker 1: based on that first half i just don't think he
• 1:10:13
  Speaker 1: could play much worse And it looked like Sark was
• 1:10:17
  Speaker 1: going to get fired. It looked like Arch was not
• 1:10:20
  Speaker 1: going to be long for that gig. And then somehow
• 1:10:22
  Speaker 1: it just shifted. He made a bunch of plays, and
• 1:10:25
  Speaker 1: they had just a historic comeback in front of, I
• 1:10:28
  Speaker 1: would guess, 20-plus million people watched that game. That game
• 1:10:31
  Speaker 1: was incredible to watch on television. I woke up this morning,
• 1:10:37
  Speaker 1: Sunday morning, still in shock in awe of what we witnessed.
• 1:10:41
  Speaker 1: And part of it was like, I don't really believe
• 1:10:44
  Speaker 1: in Sark. because he never wins that game. And he did.
• 1:10:49
  Speaker 1: And one major difference for him, in the first half,
• 1:10:51
  Speaker 1: arches all over the map. They're dropping balls. He's overthrowing balls.
• 1:10:55
  Speaker 1: He's leading guys by way too much. Second half, especially
• 1:10:59
  Speaker 1: the fourth quarter, he's hit them. He made plays. His
• 1:11:02
  Speaker 1: wide receivers made plays. They made plays as a team.
• 1:11:05
  Speaker 1: And Ohio State just kind of crumbled. And that moment,
• 1:11:10
  Speaker 1: you know, to be born into a family, like, I'm
• 1:11:14
  Speaker 1: not envious of these guys that get born into these
• 1:11:18
  Speaker 1: public situations of whether it's royalty, whether it's... I remember
• 1:11:23
  Speaker 1: Marcus Jordan, Michael's son. I see it with Charlie now,
• 1:11:28
  Speaker 1: Tiger's kid. You just carry the weight of the world
• 1:11:31
  Speaker 1: as the guy's kid. Arch is not Peyton or Eli's son.
• 1:11:35
  Speaker 1: He's Cooper's. But the way he's talked about, he might
• 1:11:39
  Speaker 1: as well be Peyton Manning's son. It's like, his dad...
• 1:11:43
  Speaker 1: I forget exactly what happened, but once he got to college,
• 1:11:47
  Speaker 1: had to quit anyone that's seen the Manning story because
• 1:11:50
  Speaker 1: I thought it was some sort of disease that was
• 1:11:53
  Speaker 1: just not going to allow him to play football. So
• 1:11:55
  Speaker 1: he had to quit in college. And Peyton, remember, dedicated
• 1:11:57
  Speaker 1: his college career to Cooper. But like, Cooper never played
• 1:12:01
  Speaker 1: in the NFL. But we discuss Arch as basically Peyton,
• 1:12:05
  Speaker 1: not even Eli, Peyton's kid. It's like, guys, Cooper's his dad.
• 1:12:10
  Speaker 1: But the pressure of that name Tell Jack all the time.
• 1:12:14
  Speaker 1: You wear that Middlecoff name, we go around town. You
• 1:12:16
  Speaker 1: wear that thing with pride. And the weight of that
• 1:12:19
  Speaker 1: is fucking hard. Don't worry, Jack can't speak English yet
• 1:12:23
  Speaker 1: or understands what I said. I've never said that to him.
• 1:12:25
  Speaker 1: But that smile he had on his face after they won,
• 1:12:29
  Speaker 1: it was hard not to be kind of happy for
• 1:12:31
  Speaker 1: the guy. Because I can't even imagine the pressure he's felt.
• 1:12:36
  Speaker 1: And listen, he hasn't been that good. Hell, I didn't
• 1:12:39
  Speaker 1: even think he was that good. I mean, he was
• 1:12:40
  Speaker 1: mostly bad in that game besides a couple series at
• 1:12:43
  Speaker 1: the end of the game. And his teammates let him
• 1:12:46
  Speaker 1: down a little bit. I saw someone that covers Auburn said, like,
• 1:12:49
  Speaker 1: welcome to the Cam Coleman experience. He'll catch some sweet
• 1:12:52
  Speaker 1: plays against, when you're playing nobodies, when you play the
• 1:12:55
  Speaker 1: better teams, it's not quite as good. I don't think
• 1:12:58
  Speaker 1: Ohio State throws to Jeremiah Smith enough. He had eight
• 1:13:01
  Speaker 1: catches for 160 yards. He should have 15 catches. I
• 1:13:05
  Speaker 1: would throw him the ball like every three plays. I
• 1:13:07
  Speaker 1: would treat him like Mike Tice did Randy Moss. We're
• 1:13:09
  Speaker 1: going to throw him the ball once a series. you know,
• 1:13:13
  Speaker 1: once every three downs. I don't think they force feed
• 1:13:16
  Speaker 1: him enough. He can't be stopped, even if you throw
• 1:13:19
  Speaker 1: it again to him. And I'm not a big Ryan
• 1:13:24
  Speaker 1: Day guy. I haven't liked that program since Urban went there.
• 1:13:27
  Speaker 1: Ryan Day's a big chip guy. I definitely do not
• 1:13:30
  Speaker 1: root for him, but I respect their program. And that
• 1:13:36
  Speaker 1: game's stunning because no one believes Sark could win it.
• 1:13:40
  Speaker 1: And then at halftime when he's getting his teeth kicked in,
• 1:13:42
  Speaker 1: it felt like they were going to lose 40-10. And
• 1:13:45
  Speaker 1: Ohio State is just, whether you like them or you
• 1:13:49
  Speaker 1: root for them, I think we all agree that when
• 1:13:51
  Speaker 1: they lose, it is a stunning thing to watch. It
• 1:13:54
  Speaker 1: was stunning when they lost to Indiana in the conference championship.
• 1:13:59
  Speaker 1: It was stunning when Indiana pulled that off. It was
• 1:14:02
  Speaker 1: stunning when Miami pulled it off. It was stunning when
• 1:14:06
  Speaker 1: Texas pulled it off. It's a pretty good spot to
• 1:14:08
  Speaker 1: be in for a program. When people are shell-shocked when
• 1:14:12
  Speaker 1: you lose. And that's with most of us. Oregon, that
• 1:14:17
  Speaker 1: program's in shambles. And I don't know, it's the pressure
• 1:14:22
  Speaker 1: of the expectations. They play like they hate each other.
• 1:14:26
  Speaker 1: They play like they can't stand each other. They play,
• 1:14:30
  Speaker 1: you know, Joe Klatt had mentioned when I was on
• 1:14:33
  Speaker 1: with Colin that this is the best defensive line Oregon's
• 1:14:36
  Speaker 1: ever had. I don't see how that's possible, given that
• 1:14:39
  Speaker 1: I remember scouting a defensive line that had Deion Jordan,
• 1:14:42
  Speaker 1: who was drafted third overall. His career got derailed because
• 1:14:46
  Speaker 1: he had personal issues. And Eric Armstead and DeForest Buckner,
• 1:14:49
  Speaker 1: who I think have made a combined like $ 250- $ 300
• 1:14:52
  Speaker 1: million in the NFL. And all three guys are 6'5.
• 1:14:56
  Speaker 1: Two of them are 6'7. Two of them are also
• 1:14:59
  Speaker 1: still playing in the NFL. So I watch this defensive line.
• 1:15:03
  Speaker 1: I go, I don't see it. Their offensive line is
• 1:15:04
  Speaker 1: not that good. They just don't look that good. I
• 1:15:07
  Speaker 1: don't know what else to say besides Oregon looks terrible.
• 1:15:11
  Speaker 1: And that quarterback for Oklahoma State, the Tech State transfer,
• 1:15:15
  Speaker 1: I always want to call him Zach Mettenberger, but it's
• 1:15:17
  Speaker 1: like messing. I don't want to screw up his name.
• 1:15:21
  Speaker 1: He said his favorite player is Josh Allen. I wouldn't
• 1:15:24
  Speaker 1: call him quite Josh Allen, but he had some Josh Allen.
• 1:15:26
  Speaker 1: I was like, he lit him up like Christmas tree.
• 1:15:28
  Speaker 1: That's embarrassing. My guy Jeff Schwartz tweeted out he played
• 1:15:32
  Speaker 1: at Oregon in the 2000s. It's the most embarrassing loss
• 1:15:34
  Speaker 1: in program history. They're like a four-touchdown favorite. Oklahoma State
• 1:15:39
  Speaker 1: hadn't won a Division I college football game in like
• 1:15:43
  Speaker 1: over two years. They just lost to Tulsa the week before,
• 1:15:47
  Speaker 1: who's an in-state program that is not as high level
• 1:15:51
  Speaker 1: as Oklahoma State. And that game really wasn't close. Honestly,
• 1:15:56
  Speaker 1: the score made it seem a lot closer than the
• 1:15:58
  Speaker 1: game actually was. I watched most of the second half.
• 1:16:01
  Speaker 1: Definitely was really dialed in the fourth quarter. It was
• 1:16:04
  Speaker 1: not a close game. And I don't I think Oregon's
• 1:16:08
  Speaker 1: in shambles because what we've witnessed now is not really
• 1:16:11
  Speaker 1: a fixable thing. And I shit on this guy last
• 1:16:14
  Speaker 1: week and I will give him credit. And the same
• 1:16:16
  Speaker 1: thing I will say about Arch. I really admire a
• 1:16:19
  Speaker 1: lot of these young guys in college that the pressure
• 1:16:22
  Speaker 1: in 2026 was social media. I know they're getting paid,
• 1:16:26
  Speaker 1: but that brings a level of pressure, too. you obviously
• 1:16:29
  Speaker 1: got a lot more money in your bank account, but
• 1:16:30
  Speaker 1: if it doesn't go well, they will cut you. If
• 1:16:32
  Speaker 1: Bryce Underwood continued to play like that, he would not
• 1:16:35
  Speaker 1: have been on the team next year. Hell, he wouldn't
• 1:16:36
  Speaker 1: have been the starter in like two weeks. And I
• 1:16:40
  Speaker 1: don't want to say he played great. Just like, I
• 1:16:41
  Speaker 1: don't think Arch played great, but he definitely played way
• 1:16:45
  Speaker 1: better than he did the previous week. And one question
• 1:16:48
  Speaker 1: I had was like, this is this great dual threat quarterback.
• 1:16:51
  Speaker 1: He never runs. And he busted a long touchdown run,
• 1:16:55
  Speaker 1: just made more plays with his feet. I mean, he
• 1:16:59
  Speaker 1: was the better quarterback in the game. Now, the bar
• 1:17:01
  Speaker 1: was low because I had Oklahoma as a national championship contender.
• 1:17:06
  Speaker 1: I thought John Mateer was a Heisman sleeper. I said
• 1:17:09
  Speaker 1: this last week that Bryce Underwood stinks. John Mateer stinks.
• 1:17:16
  Speaker 1: I mean, you talk about a guy with no touch
• 1:17:20
  Speaker 1: on the football. You see some of these quarterbacks that, like,
• 1:17:25
  Speaker 1: when a guy's going across the middle, you don't always
• 1:17:28
  Speaker 1: need to throw 100-mile-an-hour fastballs. You don't need to throw
• 1:17:31
  Speaker 1: a lobber, but you just need to lead the guy
• 1:17:34
  Speaker 1: so it's a catchable ball. He has no touch on
• 1:17:37
  Speaker 1: his football. You can't function with that level of quarterback
• 1:17:41
  Speaker 1: against good defenses. Michigan's obviously an elite defense. I can't
• 1:17:45
  Speaker 1: imagine what Mateer looks like in– what I wonder about
• 1:17:48
  Speaker 1: Mateer and Underwood– in practice against their defenses? Do their
• 1:17:53
  Speaker 1: offensive coaches just chalk it up, well, we're playing one
• 1:17:55
  Speaker 1: of the best defenses in the country? Because there have
• 1:17:57
  Speaker 1: to be some days when you leave the practice field
• 1:17:59
  Speaker 1: where you're like, did we gain many yards in the air?
• 1:18:02
  Speaker 1: Because maybe Mateer was feeling the pressure of 110,000 people,
• 1:18:07
  Speaker 1: super loud. I don't know. I don't know. But that
• 1:18:12
  Speaker 1: was a horrendous quarterback performance by John Mateer. I saw
• 1:18:17
  Speaker 1: people say, like, Dante Moore played bad. I think he's
• 1:18:20
  Speaker 1: like the least of Oregon's issues. Their defensive line stinks.
• 1:18:24
  Speaker 1: They can't cover a soul. And their offensive line got
• 1:18:29
  Speaker 1: worked by Boise and was getting kind of handled by
• 1:18:31
  Speaker 1: Oklahoma State. I'm not saying Dante Moore's perfect, but to me,
• 1:18:36
  Speaker 1: the criticism, he's down the line. Where you watch Oklahoma,
• 1:18:41
  Speaker 1: you're like, that was the quarterback. Like, the quarterback lost
• 1:18:45
  Speaker 1: you that game. If you just had B-minus quarterback, I
• 1:18:49
  Speaker 1: think Oklahoma wins that game by like 15 points pretty easily.
• 1:18:53
  Speaker 1: It's not like Michigan was running away. It's not like
• 1:18:55
  Speaker 1: Bryce Underwood threw four touchdowns. Mateer was that horrific. It
• 1:18:59
  Speaker 1: was awful. Terrible. Rough day to be a Sooner. Rough day.
• 1:19:09
  Speaker 1: You lose... And then you're kind of celebrating. We're like,
• 1:19:12
  Speaker 1: at least Texas is going to suck too. And then
• 1:19:16
  Speaker 1: they come pull off. And you're like, college football. College
• 1:19:19
  Speaker 1: football is the best. NFL is the best. I'm glad
• 1:19:21
  Speaker 1: football is back. I will talk to you tomorrow. Good night.
• 1:19:25
  Speaker 1: Good day. Good morning. See you. The Volume.