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Full Show Podcast: 08 October 2026 · Early Edition with Ryan Bridge

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Speaker 1: The issues, the interviews and the insight.
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Speaker 2: Andrew Dickens on Early Edition with Spark for Business.
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Speaker 1: Technology that keeps business moving. Newstalk ZB.
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Speaker 3: Good morning to you. Welcome to your Thursday. I'm Andrew
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Speaker 3: in for Ryan. Now the program today. Why have teacher
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Speaker 3: enrollment surged by 40 percent? We'll have that story for
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Speaker 3: you in five. We're going to dissect National's 47-point plan
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Speaker 3: for small businesses in 10. And just before 6, we'll
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Speaker 3: take a look at Labour's new banking plan. They hope
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Speaker 3: to flood the market with competition. We'll have correspondents from
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Speaker 3: right around New Zealand, and you can have your say
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Speaker 3: on the text machine. The number is 9292. It's 7
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Speaker 3: after 5. All right, it's Thursday the 8th of October.
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Speaker 3: What a kerfuffle in Tennessee. Death row inmate Krista Pike
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Speaker 3: is conscious and she is now speaking after surviving a
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Speaker 3: botched execution. Her lawyers say her recovery is unprecedented and
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Speaker 3: she's believed to be the only person... to survive not
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Speaker 3: just one lethal injection, but two.
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Speaker 4: Her legal team are asking the governor of Tennessee, Bill Lee,
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Speaker 4: to commute her sentence to life without the possibility of parole.
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Speaker 4: They're back in court for a status hearing shortly when
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Speaker 4: they will ask the court to preserve evidence-related evidence to
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Speaker 4: the attempted execution, and they may well in due course
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Speaker 4: argue that double jeopardy applies in this case.
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Speaker 3: Now we're speaking to our correspondent Nick Harper very shortly,
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Speaker 3: in about half an hour's time, because the lawyers for
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Speaker 3: Krista Pike are about to make more statements, and we'll
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Speaker 3: keep you up to date with that story. To France
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Speaker 3: and the troubles. France has now suspended stun grenades during
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Speaker 3: student protests because a stun grenade took off a 15-year-old's hand.
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Speaker 3: The police said he picked it up Eyewitnesses said he'd
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Speaker 3: been hit directly.
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Speaker 5: The boy's mum said he was a quiet, good teenager
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Speaker 5: and that his life had now been ruined.
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Speaker 3: And the interior minister says they'll stay off the streets
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Speaker 3: until the incident's been clarified and claims of disproportionate police
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Speaker 3: force dismissed. OK, it's a sad day for Israel today.
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Speaker 3: They are marking three years since the Hamas-led October the
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Speaker 3: 7th attack. Remember it. Always remember it. 1,200 people were killed,
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Speaker 3: 251 taken hostage. Memorials are being held across the country,
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Speaker 3: flags have been lowered to half-mast, and there is a
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Speaker 3: nationwide minute's silence.
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Speaker 6: MUSIC PLAYS.
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Speaker 3: And to the UK. Wow, Jeremy Clarkson called for it
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Speaker 3: and now the Tories have done it. They've promised to
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Speaker 3: abolish inheritance tax on family homes if they get elected.
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Speaker 3: But that's not all.
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Speaker 7: On top of that, couples will be able to leave
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Speaker 7: an additional £ 1 million tax-free.
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Speaker 1: And these changes.
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Speaker 7: These changes mean every inheritance tax bill will be cut
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Speaker 7: and the number of families paying inheritance tax will fall
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Speaker 7: by more than half.
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Speaker 3: Oh, they like that. It's nine minutes after five.
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Speaker 3: Well, the decision to call time on a retrial of
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Speaker 3: David Tamahiri is disappointing for all involved. And David's first
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Speaker 3: reaction was indicative of that. He's relieved, obviously. I mean,
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Speaker 3: trials are exhausting and very challenging if you're the guy
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Speaker 3: in the dock. But he also said he's pissed off.
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Speaker 3: And he's pissed off because he was looking forward to
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Speaker 3: having a definitive finding of his innocence, but that's not happening. Meanwhile,
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Speaker 3: the police do not have their man because Tamahere's trials
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Speaker 3: have been judged to have been unfair. That doesn't mean
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Speaker 3: they shouldn't have done the trials. The trials should have
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Speaker 3: been done, but the fact that they've been judged to
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Speaker 3: be unfair, well, the police are disappointed with that. It's
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Speaker 3: always circumstantial in this case, and circumstantial is the hardest
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Speaker 3: case to prove. And the passage of time It means
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Speaker 3: the circumstantial evidence has been compromised as memory fades and
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Speaker 3: stuff has been lost. But you know, worst of all
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Speaker 3: in all of this is that the families of the
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Speaker 3: murdered Swedish couple have no closure. They have no idea
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Speaker 3: what happened to their kids down here, really. And they
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Speaker 3: have no idea what's happened in the 30 years since.
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Speaker 3: So David Tamahiri has paid a heavy price and he's
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Speaker 3: looking for compensation, maybe. But David Tamahiri's heavy price pales
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Speaker 3: into insignificance compared... to what the Swedish families have had
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Speaker 3: to go through. Yeah, OK, it's 11 after five. So
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Speaker 3: all of a sudden, education seems to be at the
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Speaker 3: middle of the election debate after Chris Hipkin's comments yesterday
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Speaker 3: about charter schools and about the one hour of reading
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Speaker 3: and writing and all that sort of carry on. But meanwhile,
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Speaker 3: some good news in the teaching sector. There is a 40%
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Speaker 3: uplift in new teacher enrolments. So we're talking to Chris Abercrombie,
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Speaker 3: the PPTA president, about this in just a few moments' time.
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Speaker 3: How come teaching is now looking like a good thing
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Speaker 3: to get into? 12 after 5.
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Speaker 3: 14 minutes after 5. Erica Stanford's a happy woman this morning.
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Speaker 3: She's celebrating a 40% uplift. in new teacher enrolments since
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Speaker 3: she got hold of the portfolio. Obviously, she wants to
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Speaker 3: take the party's education record to the election. It's suddenly
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Speaker 3: becoming quite an issue. And she's warning that choosing Labour
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Speaker 3: puts all their hard work over this term at risk.
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Speaker 3: And that includes the mandated hour of reading, writing and maths,
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Speaker 3: which Chris Hipkins said in the debate he would repeal
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Speaker 3: if he was re-elected. He says it's the choice of schools.
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Speaker 3: Chris Abercrombie is the president of the Post-Primary Teachers Association.
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Speaker 3: Excuse me.
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Speaker 8: Hello, Chris.
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Speaker 3: Welcome into the show. So here we go. Happy to
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Speaker 3: hear this. A 40% uplift in new teacher enrolments.
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Speaker 8: You know, that's fantastic to hear. It's definitely something that
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Speaker 8: we want to see. We want to be increasing our
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Speaker 8: homegrown teachers here in New Zealand.
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Speaker 3: Okay. Can the National Party take credit for their changes
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Speaker 3: to the education system, making teaching more attractive, or was
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Speaker 3: it a societal shift?
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Speaker 8: It's a bit of both. So we know during uncertain
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Speaker 8: economic times, teaching is seen as a safe career. And
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Speaker 8: so we know there's always an uptick during those times.
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Speaker 8: But also the fact there's been some changes to the system,
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Speaker 8: particularly around in-school training, definitely would have had an impact
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Speaker 8: on that as well.
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Speaker 3: So are there jobs waiting for these new teachers on
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Speaker 3: the other side?
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Speaker 8: Definitely in secondary. There's still significant shortages in secondary. So
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Speaker 8: it'd be great to be able to fill those with
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Speaker 8: New Zealand teachers, with New Zealand educator teachers. So it'd
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Speaker 8: be great to be able to have those in the profession.
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Speaker 9: All right.
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Speaker 3: So in the debate, Christopher Luxen grilled Chris Hipkins on
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Speaker 3: his education record. And we had Chris Hipkins coming out
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Speaker 3: talking about charter schools. He doesn't support them. He wants
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Speaker 3: to assimilate them. And he also talked about the hour
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Speaker 3: of mandated reading, writing and literature. So is education a
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Speaker 3: weak point in this election for Labour? And did they
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Speaker 3: get it wrong?
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Speaker 8: I think there was lots of aspects to the education system.
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Speaker 8: I mean, Labour was making changes to the system. I
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Speaker 8: think from a sector point of view, it was too slow.
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Speaker 8: The change was taking too long to implement. And so, yeah,
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Speaker 8: I think there's going to be some few questions to
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Speaker 8: be asked about this. But at the end of the day,
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Speaker 8: teachers want good education policy and we want to end
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Speaker 8: the political football about education.
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Speaker 3: OK, do you, as the PPTA president, support Labour's move
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Speaker 3: to remove the mandate for an hour of reading, writing
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Speaker 3: and maths for our primary kids?
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Speaker 8: Oh, I think it's... I don't really have an opinion,
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Speaker 8: to be honest, on it. I think it's been very
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Speaker 8: helpful for a lot of aspects, but to think that
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Speaker 8: that already wasn't happening before this mandate suggests, you know, so...
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Speaker 8: I think it's been helpful in lots of aspects, but
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Speaker 8: at the end of the day, we just want good
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Speaker 8: education policy, and if it makes good changes, then we'll
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Speaker 8: support it.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, well, this is the thing that got me, because
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Speaker 3: Christopher Hipkins said it's up to the school to choose that. Well,
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Speaker 3: if they hadn't been choosing that, why didn't they choose that,
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Speaker 3: if it makes such sense to you and.
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Speaker 1: Me and everybody?
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Speaker 8: Well, I mean, as I say, schools are already reading
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Speaker 8: and writing the maths before the change, and if it changes,
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Speaker 8: schools will continue to read and write the maths. So
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Speaker 8: I think it just depends on how it's done. and
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Speaker 8: what it means and what implications there are, you know,
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Speaker 8: and we've got to be careful that we don't narrow
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Speaker 8: the curriculum too much. There's lots of aspects to it, but,
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Speaker 8: I mean, we want literacy and numeracy. It's really important.
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Speaker 8: And so, but it can't be at the detriment of
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Speaker 8: everything else.
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Speaker 3: Good stuff. Thank you very much for your time today.
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Speaker 3: That is Chris Abercrombie, the PPTA president. Enjoy those 40%
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Speaker 3: more teachers coming into the system. Good news, isn't it?
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Speaker 3: Grant has already texted. Stanford, next Prime Minister after Luxon.
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Speaker 3: You heard it here first. Grant, you're not first. It
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Speaker 3: is 18 minutes after five. So, election time, we get
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Speaker 3: policies all over the place. National's got a 47-point plan
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Speaker 3: to cut red tape for small businesses. And it was
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Speaker 3: Cameron Brewer who actually presented all this yesterday. So has
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Speaker 3: small business read all the 47 points? Are they new
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Speaker 3: or are they fun or what?
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Speaker 10: I don't know.
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Speaker 3: Phil Wicks is the Small Business New Zealand founder. He
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Speaker 3: joins me next.
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Speaker 1: Before the news breaks, hear it first.
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Speaker 2: Andrew Dickens on Early Edition with Spark for Business, technology
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Speaker 2: that keeps business moving.
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Speaker 1: Newstalk ZB.
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Speaker 3: 5.20, David writes to me, Andrew, that gentleman would never be...
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Speaker 3: happy with any national education policy. Hold on a minute there, David.
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Speaker 3: Did you not notice that he was, grudgingly, happy with
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Speaker 3: what the situation is right now? Okay, so Nationals got
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Speaker 3: a 47-point plan to cut red tape for small business.
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Speaker 3: Here's the minister in charge, Cameron Brewer.
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Speaker 11: We will also review the GST registration threshold. It has
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Speaker 11: been stuck at 60,000 since 2009.
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Speaker 3: It wants to introduce a tell government once service. They
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Speaker 3: want to speed up stuff around employment. They want simpler
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Speaker 3: health and safety rules as well. Phil Wicks is the
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Speaker 3: Small Business New Zealand founder, director of BSB Advisory and
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Speaker 3: joins me now.
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Speaker 8: G'day, Phil.
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Speaker 1: G'day.
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Speaker 12: How are you going?
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Speaker 8: Good.
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Speaker 3: Have you read it? Do you like it?
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Speaker 12: I think there's quite a lot here that small business
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Speaker 12: owners will recognise. I mean, the 47 points sounds like
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Speaker 12: a lot, but the themes are generally pretty simple. Make
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Speaker 12: it easier to employ people, reduce the time owners spend
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Speaker 12: dealing with government, improve cash flow, make it easier for
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Speaker 12: businesses to invest and grow. So, you know, overall fairly straightforward,
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Speaker 12: I think.
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Speaker 3: How much of it was stuff we already do?
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Speaker 12: Quite a bit, in all honesty. I mean, but, you know, anything...
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Speaker 12: that can sort of take away those areas of friction,
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Speaker 12: give small business owners a bit more certainty is a
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Speaker 12: good thing. You know, most small businesses, what they're really after,
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Speaker 12: small business owners, sorry, is confidence and, you know, confidence
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Speaker 12: to employ another person or invest in another piece of equipment.
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Speaker 3: OK, well, Cameron Brewer says, and he says of the
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Speaker 3: 47 points, the big hold up for small businesses are
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Speaker 3: all the employment rules. And he wants to simplify them.
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Speaker 3: and he's talking about the Employment Relations Authority, and he's
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Speaker 3: talking about the whole employment disputes process. How can you
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Speaker 3: simplify that?
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Speaker 12: Well, I guess the issue isn't about removing anybody's rights.
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Speaker 12: I think it's when a relatively straightforward disagreement becomes enormously
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Speaker 12: expensive or time-consuming for both sides. Those sort of things
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Speaker 12: can be simplified. So it's good if you can resolve,
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Speaker 12: you know, smaller disputes faster and proportionately. I think it's
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Speaker 12: also good for, you know, for that sole trader who's
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Speaker 12: taking on the first employee. You know, there's a huge
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Speaker 12: step there. Suddenly you've got employment agreements, payroll, leave, ACC
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Speaker 12: and those sorts of things. So, you know, anything that
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Speaker 12: can simplify that, I think, is a good thing.
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Speaker 3: And how do you feel about that 60,000 GST threshold?
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Speaker 3: Should it be higher?
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Speaker 13: Yeah.
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Speaker 12: Yeah, I've said this before. I think last time I talked, yes,
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Speaker 12: I think it should be. I mean, in Australia, I
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Speaker 12: think it's around 90,000, and it's been 60,000, I think,
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Speaker 12: since 2009. So, yeah, I mean, I think it should
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Speaker 12: be higher.
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Speaker 1: I've thought about.
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Speaker 12: That for a while.
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Speaker 3: Well, what's your reasoning behind that?
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Speaker 12: Because, you know, again, the majority of small businesses that
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Speaker 12: start up or a fair proportion will fail. And anything
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Speaker 12: that can actually make that process a little bit easier. And,
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Speaker 12: you know, when $ 60, 000, when you think about that's turnover,
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Speaker 12: that's not profit. So it's not a heck of a
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Speaker 12: lot when you think of it that way.
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Speaker 7: Hmm.
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Speaker 3: All right, Phil, I thank you for your time today.
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Speaker 3: Phil Wicks, the Small Business New Zealand founder. He's also
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Speaker 3: a director of BSB Advisory. And speaking of business news,
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Speaker 3: I don't know if you've heard this, but toy billionaire
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Speaker 3: Nick Mowbray wants to take over Mattel, or they think
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Speaker 3: he is. According to Australian's Data Room column, Mowbray's privately
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Speaker 3: owned toy and consumer products business, Zuru, has apparently sought
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Speaker 3: proposals from Australasian investment banks, and it's looking to buy Mattel. Mattel,
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Speaker 3: which makes, you know, like Hot Wheels, American Girl, and Uno. Mattel,
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Speaker 3: which makes Barbie. Yes, everyone's shouting Barbie. Yes, Mattel makes Barbie.
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Speaker 3: Nick Mowbray from Zuru, a New Zealander, is thinking about
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Speaker 3: buying it. Can you imagine that? Barbie as a Kiwi.
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Speaker 3: Barbie is going to need jandals. I'm here because Ryan's
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Speaker 3: been doing some telly stuff. He did it yesterday. He
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Speaker 3: did the Future of New Zealand debate. I'm going to
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Speaker 3: run you through that in just a few moments' time.
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Speaker 3: It's 5.24. News Talks FB. So I'm Andrew Dickens, and
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Speaker 3: I'm the fill-in guy, and I'm filling in for Ryan Bridge,
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Speaker 3: and I'm filling in all week, and I'm doing three
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Speaker 3: days next week and three days the week after. And
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Speaker 3: the reason for that is that Ryan is preparing to
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Speaker 3: do telly stuff with Harold now. And last night he
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Speaker 3: was doing the first of the big ones. It was
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Speaker 3: a 90-minute thing called the Future of New Zealand. Now,
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Speaker 3: it had politicians. It had seven politicians. Yeah, we had
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Speaker 3: some politicians. But the big thing about this, the difference
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Speaker 3: was all the other people, all the business leaders, all
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Speaker 3: the entrepreneurs, all the tech bros were all having their
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Speaker 3: say about the future of New Zealand. There was even
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Speaker 3: a dancing robot. And to see Ryan Bridge dancing with
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Speaker 3: a dancing robot on telly was actually quite some sight.
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Speaker 3: So here are some highlights if you haven't seen it.
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Speaker 3: Of course, after Jack Tame suckered us into the billionaires
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Speaker 3: moral debate, Timothy Paul the Green had some ideas. She reckons, obviously,
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Speaker 3: that billionaires are immoral.
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Speaker 10: I think being a billionaire is immoral. Billionaires don't just
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Speaker 10: get there because they're better than anybody else. Often they
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Speaker 10: are utilising public infrastructure to allow them to innovate. They
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Speaker 10: are utilising government grants.
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Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah. Meanwhile, Mr John Key was there as well
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Speaker 3: and he thought it was nuts. If we're going to
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Speaker 3: sit there and say, oh, we're going to celebrate the
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Speaker 3: warriors and the all blacks.
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Speaker 1: Who are sports people or artists or whatever.
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Speaker 3: Oh, but if you've built a world-class space company like
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Speaker 3: Peter Beck, oh, that's morally offensive. That is nuts. OK,
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Speaker 3: so I talked about the dancing robot, right? Well, there
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Speaker 3: was a futurist there by the name of Francis Valentine
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Speaker 3: who said that Kiwis are going to have to get
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Speaker 3: used to robots living amongst us. We're going to have
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Speaker 3: to get used to Ryan Bridge dancing with the robot.
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Speaker 1: A lot of that's already here.
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Speaker 3: Flying cars, there are a number of certified companies now.
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Speaker 13: There's more than 25 around the world.
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Speaker 3: Humanoids, we're seeing a really huge rise in humanoids.
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Speaker 13: And then there's this exponential plan to grow.
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Speaker 3: Somebody's got to stop those humanoids from breeding.
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Speaker 5: Hello.
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Speaker 3: Meanwhile, we had some more of that crazy... That crazy...
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Speaker 3: word-heavy nutsness from Matua Shane.
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Speaker 14: The gouging, villainous ways of the Gentailers, which is not
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Speaker 14: only beggaring businesses, but it's leading to de-industrialisation. I really
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Speaker 14: respect the CEO from Contact Energy turning up tonight. I
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Speaker 14: hope he still talks to me after we've split his
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Speaker 14: business in half.
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Speaker 3: The Shakespeare of New Zealand. Anna Polly's laid out their
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Speaker 3: vision for New Zealand.
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Speaker 13: We want a New Zealand where hard work gets you ahead.
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Speaker 7: We can't unleash New Zealand's potential if we keep cutting
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Speaker 7: it down at the knees.
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Speaker 8: Everyone has a home.
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Speaker 6: Our tamariki have clean water, have access to prosperous pathways.
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Speaker 5: We need political consensus on infrastructure, health, education.
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Speaker 14: A future where we've got a reservoir of wealth because
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Speaker 14: our savings have expanded.
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Speaker 10: My mokopuna will stay here, they will be raised here
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Speaker 10: and I want that for all of our mokopuna. We
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Speaker 10: have to celebrate success, not just punish it with more taxes.
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Speaker 3: OK, well the reaction online was super positive. There was
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Speaker 3: an old socialist down in the South Island who used
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Speaker 3: to be a talkback star with the first name Alan.
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Speaker 3: And he wrote, what a future.
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Speaker 1: Wow.
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Speaker 3: At a time when New Zealand is spiritually bankrupt, along
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Speaker 3: comes a program like this, the future of New Zealand,
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Speaker 3: a bland title for the most uplifting thing I have
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Speaker 3: ever experienced. Featuring a bunch of people I have mostly
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Speaker 3: never heard of before. Vicky wrote, this is the stuff
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Speaker 3: we need to hear. Inspiring stuff, not personality, you know,
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Speaker 3: bitch fests that we normally have with our leaders debate.
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Speaker 3: So congratulations, Ryan. It's online. And you can check it out.
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Speaker 3: Go to the herald.co.nz website. Ryan will be back one day,
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Speaker 3: but he's got a.
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Speaker 15: Lot of work.
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Speaker 3: And he's doing good work, it seems. On the way,
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Speaker 3: Nick Harper out of the United States as the Krista
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Speaker 3: Pike lawyers start arguing about her freedom.
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Speaker 2: The news you need this morning and the in-depth analysis.
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Speaker 2: Early edition with Andrew Dickens and Spark for Business. Technology
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Speaker 2: that keeps business moving.
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Speaker 1: Newstalk ZB.
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Speaker 10: Good morning to you.
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Speaker 3: On Nick Mowbray and Zuru possibly making a bid for
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Speaker 3: Mattel and therefore getting the Barbie. I get a text
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Speaker 3: here from Brian who says good morning Andrew. Maybe they're
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Speaker 3: going to have to make a Barbie doll dressed in
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Speaker 3: pyjamas going to a Kmart with a Woody in jandals.
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Speaker 3: The Kiwi Barbie could be coming. You never know. All
18:34
Speaker 3: of you loving Ryan's TV show yesterday. It was last
18:37
Speaker 3: night at 7 o'clock, 90 minutes of it. The Future
18:39
Speaker 3: of New Zealand. It's still on the Herald website. Wendy
18:42
Speaker 3: says we loved it. It was so much positivity and
18:44
Speaker 3: energy in the room. Big ups to the production team.
18:46
Speaker 3: Very slick. Ryan was outstanding. And another texter says, thoroughly
18:49
Speaker 3: enjoyed it. It was well run, better than the Tuesday
18:51
Speaker 3: show on TVNZ. Now, actually, on the subject of Ryan,
18:57
Speaker 3: you may remember a couple of weeks ago when Mike
18:59
Speaker 3: Hosking gave him a hard time about his camel hair
19:01
Speaker 3: Zara trench coat that he was wearing while he was
19:04
Speaker 3: on air. And he said, what, you're just not in
19:06
Speaker 3: this cheap coat. And Ryan's excuse was, no, well, they
19:11
Speaker 3: actually filmed the show and they used clips from it
19:14
Speaker 3: on the Ryan Bridge Today show. And, of course, I'm
19:16
Speaker 3: wearing an unironed, rumpled shirt that I put on at
19:20
Speaker 3: 3 o'clock in the morning, so I'm covering it up
19:21
Speaker 3: so I look okay. And we all laughed. We all thought, yeah, yeah, yeah, no,
19:24
Speaker 3: you just love that freaking coat, don't you, mate? Well,
19:27
Speaker 3: I got a text from the boss yesterday. He said,
19:30
Speaker 3: you may or may not know this, but they're taking
19:31
Speaker 3: clips from the early edition show and they're playing it
19:34
Speaker 3: on the Ryan Bridge Today show. And while it's very
19:37
Speaker 3: cool that you love Nirvana, you may want to think
19:42
Speaker 3: about that T-shirt in the future. So Ryan was right.
19:46
Speaker 3: And so today I have a dress shirt and I
19:50
Speaker 3: have a jacket on, just in case they use our clips.
19:53
Speaker 1: News Talk ZB. It's 23 to 6.
19:56
Speaker 3: We're around the country right now into Dunedin. Callum Proctor,
19:58
Speaker 3: good morning to you.
19:59
Speaker 8: Morning, Andrew.
20:00
Speaker 3: A bit of grave hunting going down in Dunedin. How
20:03
Speaker 3: gothic is this? Yeah, and the.
20:05
Speaker 11: Council's needing the public's help here to piece together the
20:09
Speaker 11: history of unmarked graves. which are linked to former psychiatric
20:12
Speaker 11: and welfare institutions here in the past. The council has
20:16
Speaker 11: received a chunk of funding for this from the government,
20:18
Speaker 11: $ 189, 000 back in June to research these unmarked graves that
20:23
Speaker 11: are linked to facilities such as the old Seacliff Lunatic
20:26
Speaker 11: Asylum and Cherry Farm. Dozens of public submissions already have
20:30
Speaker 11: helped researchers, but they say more info is needed, particularly
20:34
Speaker 11: from those with connections to former patients. Andrew, the ultimate
20:38
Speaker 11: goal here is to develop an appropriate memorial to recognise
20:42
Speaker 11: all those former patients.
20:43
Speaker 3: Dunedin's weather, Callum?
20:45
Speaker 11: Bit of morning drizzle, mostly cloudy, winds turn north-east to
20:48
Speaker 11: high only 12 today.
20:49
Speaker 3: Good stuff. Claire Sherwood from Christchurch, good morning to you.
20:52
Speaker 3: Good morning. So what's the latest about the Orana Wildlife Park,
20:55
Speaker 3: which is in strife?
20:56
Speaker 6: Yeah, well, it doesn't sound like Christchurch City Council has
20:59
Speaker 6: actioned plans to reach out to neighbours for help. Councillors
21:02
Speaker 6: here in Christchurch agreed, of course, to give the zoo
21:05
Speaker 6: $ 1. 2 million towards a $ 4. 1 million funding gap. That was
21:09
Speaker 6: several weeks ago now, but the council did declare that
21:12
Speaker 6: they wanted both Salwin and Waimakarere to contribute to this
21:15
Speaker 6: as well. But we've spoken with Selwyn Mayor Lydia Glidden,
21:18
Speaker 6: who says she's yet to get a formal request for help.
21:21
Speaker 6: She says there is no doubt that Orana Park is
21:23
Speaker 6: a nostalgic place, but just like any other proposal, this
21:26
Speaker 6: would need to be worth it for residents of Selwyn.
21:29
Speaker 6: She says the council doesn't have big amounts of money
21:32
Speaker 6: just to hand out, so any request would need to
21:34
Speaker 6: go through the long-term plan process as.
21:36
Speaker 3: A formal ask. How's the weather for Canterbury today?
21:40
Speaker 6: Should be mostly cloudy, a bit of drizzle about later,
21:42
Speaker 6: light south-west, at least turning north-east as we make our
21:45
Speaker 6: way to 16 degrees.
21:46
Speaker 3: Thank you, Claire. Good morning. Max Toll from Wellington. Good morning. So,
21:50
Speaker 3: the council's under fire again. What this time?
21:53
Speaker 9: Yes, a story in the Post this morning. The Wellington
21:55
Speaker 9: City Council apparently bypassed the central government tendering website for
21:59
Speaker 9: its Christmas and New Year events, seemingly because of self-confidence
22:04
Speaker 9: in its own tender process and advertisements. That backfired because
22:09
Speaker 9: only two bids were made, and the contract ultimately went
22:12
Speaker 9: to a company in the dog box, a company called
22:15
Speaker 9: Chameleon Events. They've been doing seasonal events here in Wellington
22:18
Speaker 9: for about 15 years. They're also the company that cocked
22:22
Speaker 9: up last year by producing shows for several hundred thousand
22:25
Speaker 9: dollars it wasn't allowed to due to a lapsed contract.
22:28
Speaker 9: They're the ones who copped flack a couple of years
22:30
Speaker 9: ago for their road cone Christmas tree. And so last year,
22:33
Speaker 9: the council said Chameleon would never be hired again. And
22:36
Speaker 9: that has proved short-lived. The council is defending its process,
22:40
Speaker 9: saying it was sceptical the government electronic tender service would
22:43
Speaker 9: reach the right people. Certainly not the biggest misstep by
22:47
Speaker 9: the council in recent months, but perhaps a little emblematic
22:49
Speaker 9: of its recent failings.
22:51
Speaker 3: So Wellington's weather has been banging this week. Max, what
22:54
Speaker 3: about today?
22:55
Speaker 9: Yeah, mostly fine this morning. A little cooler with some south-easterlies.
22:58
Speaker 9: And then a little cloud and perhaps some showers this afternoon.
23:01
Speaker 9: A high of 14.
23:02
Speaker 3: And I thank you. Niva Retimanu from Auckland joins me.
23:04
Speaker 1: Hello. Good morning.
23:05
Speaker 3: What's happening with rubbish truck drivers in Auckland?
23:07
Speaker 16: Yeah, well, look, Workers' First Union's claiming multiple Auckland rubbish
23:11
Speaker 16: truck drivers are being made redundant and then being brought
23:14
Speaker 16: back as contractors. So the union's saying 17 out of 23...
23:19
Speaker 16: soon-to-be-redundant waste management drivers. They're going to become owner-drivers who
23:25
Speaker 16: have to buy their own trucks. So workers' first organiser,
23:28
Speaker 16: that's Justin Wallace, says it's a dodgy plan. He says
23:31
Speaker 16: under the model that these contractors won't have employment rights,
23:34
Speaker 16: such as the ability to take sick leave and take
23:36
Speaker 16: time off, waste management says this is incorrect. He says
23:40
Speaker 16: there's no contractor requirement when it shifts parts of south
23:43
Speaker 16: and east Auckland. So, you know, the drivers there to
23:46
Speaker 16: this independent contractor model. So argy-bargy both sides. Watch this space.
23:50
Speaker 3: Auckland's weather.
23:51
Speaker 16: Fine weather. High of 20 here in Auckland.
23:53
Speaker 3: It was 19 degrees and fine yesterday when I went
23:55
Speaker 3: to Loosehead Len's funeral, which was held at the Ponsonby
23:59
Speaker 3: Rugby Club.
24:00
Speaker 1: Naturally.
24:01
Speaker 3: If you've read The Eight O'Clock or The Star back
24:02
Speaker 3: in the 80s, you'll know about that. It was epic.
24:06
Speaker 3: Joe Stanley, the former All Black, was an emcee, and
24:08
Speaker 3: he was sure and he was funny. From ZB, I
24:12
Speaker 3: was there. Tyler Adams was there. I first worked with
24:14
Speaker 3: Phil in 1987 at Radio Hauraki. We have 40 years
24:17
Speaker 3: of friendship. Tyler, of course, was Simon Phil's producer. Murray
24:20
Speaker 3: Deeker was there speaking. Dame Valerie Adams. And Val flew
24:24
Speaker 3: for 30 hours from Europe to be there. And she
24:27
Speaker 3: landed only two hours beforehand. And her speech was funny
24:31
Speaker 3: and wise and emotional. And she was crying. Another great
24:33
Speaker 3: speech came from Simon Barnett, who was charming and self-deprecating
24:37
Speaker 3: and surprisingly profane because that's what happens when you're friends
24:40
Speaker 3: with Phil because Phil was a down-to-earth guy and he
24:43
Speaker 3: had an earthy tongue. So you tell some stories, you
24:45
Speaker 3: get some swear words and Simon got the biggest laughs.
24:48
Speaker 3: At this funeral, there were All Blacks there. There was
24:50
Speaker 3: Buck Shelford, the Black Adders, Todd and son Ethan, Sue
24:53
Speaker 3: John Kerman there. But here's the thing. You couldn't help
24:56
Speaker 3: but feel that age is starting to creep up on
24:58
Speaker 3: a golden generation. B.G. Williams was there. Ponsonby Rugby Club
25:04
Speaker 3: stalwart in a wheelchair. Sir Peter Leach was there, the
25:07
Speaker 3: bad butcher. I haven't seen the old mate for years.
25:09
Speaker 3: We caught up and we laughed. But at the same time,
25:11
Speaker 3: I had to remind him of my name because he's
25:14
Speaker 3: got some troubles with names these days. Phil obviously loved music.
25:18
Speaker 3: Midge Marsden was there, the great blues guy. He's had
25:21
Speaker 3: a touch of the cancer. His memory's a bit looser,
25:22
Speaker 3: but he was energetic and great company. He's actually a
25:25
Speaker 3: relative of mine in a very strange way. And look,
25:27
Speaker 3: the whole thing went long, but that's because the room
25:30
Speaker 3: was full of raconteurs and storytellers and achievers. But that
25:33
Speaker 3: was Loosehead Len, the very best storyteller, the kindest man.
25:37
Speaker 3: I thought I had a great friendship with him, but
25:39
Speaker 3: this week I realized the man had thousands of friends
25:42
Speaker 3: like me, and many were even closer. It was a
25:45
Speaker 3: great afternoon. Phil Gifford would have loved it. It's 16
25:50
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25:54
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25:56
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25:59
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26:03
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26:06
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26:36
Speaker 3: you get sorted. So the developing story, we go to
26:46
Speaker 3: America right now, the developing story right now is Krista
26:48
Speaker 3: Pike and her lawyers have asked the court to preserve
26:51
Speaker 3: evidence after a botched execution.
26:56
Speaker 15: Maintain jurisdiction over this case. We've argued that both requirements
26:59
Speaker 15: of the transfer statute aren't met. I think the case
27:03
Speaker 15: that was closed on the Chancery Court docket administratively could
27:07
Speaker 15: certainly be reopened under your equitable powers. And then I
27:12
Speaker 15: think we can look at Rule 60.02.5.
27:16
Speaker 3: So joining us to fill in more of the details,
27:18
Speaker 3: Nick Harper from the United States. Good morning to you, Nick.
27:21
Speaker 1: Good morning, Andrew.
27:22
Speaker 3: So what's happening?
27:24
Speaker 5: Yeah, this hearing underway, the lawyers trying to get that
27:26
Speaker 5: court order to preserve the evidence. They say that essentially,
27:29
Speaker 5: as we know, it was a botched execution, but they
27:32
Speaker 5: say that it was done in a very bad way.
27:34
Speaker 5: There were problems around the IV lines that were meant
27:37
Speaker 5: to be administering the drugs into Krista Pike's system. They
27:41
Speaker 5: say that at least seven needles were used to try
27:44
Speaker 5: and get that into her system. One of those needles
27:47
Speaker 5: was even bent at a 90 degree angle. There's also
27:51
Speaker 5: some evidence suggesting that Krista Pike herself was advising the
27:55
Speaker 5: nurses who were there how best to get the needles
27:58
Speaker 5: into her arm. Of course, those were meant to be
28:01
Speaker 5: lethal injections that were not lethal. Two sets of injections
28:04
Speaker 5: given to her, both of them failing, with her ending
28:07
Speaker 5: up in hospital. But we have heard in the last
28:09
Speaker 5: 24 hours that she is now awake and she is communicating.
28:13
Speaker 5: We may get more details from the lawyers at this hearing,
28:16
Speaker 5: but of course she would have been the first woman
28:18
Speaker 5: to be executed in the state of Tennessee in 200 years,
28:21
Speaker 5: all because of the 1995 murder when she killed a
28:27
Speaker 5: school friend with her then boyfriend in what appeared to
28:29
Speaker 5: be a satanic ritual.
28:31
Speaker 3: So the question is, will the lawyers be successful in
28:33
Speaker 3: actually having a stay of that execution, or will Tennessee
28:36
Speaker 3: try again?
28:36
Speaker 5: Well, the likelihood is that they probably will try again.
28:40
Speaker 5: I mean, this is, of course, a death sentence that
28:44
Speaker 5: she was given. And she's in hospital, but at some
28:47
Speaker 5: point will be transferred back into a prison system. And
28:50
Speaker 5: probably the prosecution will be pushing for that death penalty
28:53
Speaker 5: to go ahead.
28:53
Speaker 3: All right. And I thank you so much, Nick Harper
28:55
Speaker 3: out of the United States. It is 10 minutes to six.
29:00
Speaker 3: So to banking, and Labour is promising to shake up
29:03
Speaker 3: the sector if re-elected. They want to flood the market
29:05
Speaker 3: with competition, making it easier for smaller banks to compete
29:08
Speaker 3: with the big four. Also on the wish list is
29:10
Speaker 3: access to 24-7 real-time payments by 2030, so you can
29:15
Speaker 3: do your banking seven days a week.
29:17
Speaker 17: Labour's approach is not going to be to use the
29:19
Speaker 17: bully pulpit to tell the banks that they need to
29:22
Speaker 17: reduce their profitability. We need the small competitors to do
29:26
Speaker 17: the work of competing away some of those big margins.
29:28
Speaker 3: So Claire Matthews is the head of Massey University's School
29:31
Speaker 3: of Accountancy, Economics and Finance and joins me right now. Hello, Claire.
29:35
Speaker 13: Marina Andrew.
29:36
Speaker 3: Could this work?
29:38
Speaker 13: Well, I guess anything. can work. It all depends how
29:41
Speaker 13: it comes together at the time.
29:43
Speaker 3: Well, what do you reckon?
29:45
Speaker 13: I think there's some things that can be done that
29:49
Speaker 13: will make a difference, but I think they're probably hyping
29:52
Speaker 13: it up more than they.
29:54
Speaker 13: Really should be. In terms of real-time payments, we already
29:59
Speaker 13: have pretty close to that. We're not quite there. There's
30:02
Speaker 13: a lot of work already being done, so it's not
30:04
Speaker 13: really anything fantastically new. There's no particular timeframe. The Reserve
30:09
Speaker 13: Bank is leading it at the moment. They're still working
30:12
Speaker 13: on exactly how they're going to do it. But it's
30:14
Speaker 13: also important to remember that real-time payments is not, I
30:19
Speaker 13: want to say costless, that's not probably quite the right word,
30:21
Speaker 13: but there is a risk associated with it. At the moment,
30:25
Speaker 13: because there's a little bit of a delay between when
30:27
Speaker 13: you generally make a payment and it goes through, there's
30:30
Speaker 13: a small window if... and I'm thinking specifically of scams here,
30:34
Speaker 13: not if you make a mistake, that's less likely to
30:36
Speaker 13: be an issue, but if you're subject to a scam
30:39
Speaker 13: and you suddenly realise, if the payment hasn't actually finished,
30:43
Speaker 13: then you've got a small window in which you can
30:45
Speaker 13: get it back. Once you've got real-time payment, that's gone.
30:47
Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly. I get that. Now, I thought it was
30:49
Speaker 3: a little bit hyperbolic when they said we're going to
30:51
Speaker 3: flood the market with competition in banking, but the only
30:54
Speaker 3: way they're going to be doing that is by changing
30:55
Speaker 3: the rules and regulations. But are there people actually with
30:59
Speaker 3: the money and the infrastructure who, around wanting to come
31:02
Speaker 3: in and be a new bank in this country or was,
31:05
Speaker 3: you know, really, are they really going to come just
31:07
Speaker 3: because the rules and regulations change a little?
31:11
Speaker 13: I definitely agree it's hyperbolic. There's a lot of work
31:15
Speaker 13: being done and there's a lot of fintech companies coming
31:17
Speaker 13: in already. We're not really talking banks, we're talking smaller institutions.
31:21
Speaker 13: I'm a little concerned about the suggestion that they're going
31:24
Speaker 13: to change the rules for them and make it easier.
31:26
Speaker 13: These people are dealing with people's money. There are companies
31:31
Speaker 13: that are busy doing stuff at the moment. It all
31:34
Speaker 13: just takes time. and it's a matter of it actually
31:39
Speaker 13: being profitable. It's all very well to have these wonderful ideas,
31:43
Speaker 13: but it's how do you monetize that? How do you
31:45
Speaker 13: actually make money from whatever you're doing?
31:46
Speaker 3: Very good point there, because in this unicorn world with
31:50
Speaker 3: so many banks all over the place, how do we
31:52
Speaker 3: know that Kiwis will actually save, or will we just
31:55
Speaker 3: have even more banks making mega profits?
31:59
Speaker 13: I'm not sure that you'd get a whole lot more
32:01
Speaker 13: banks making mega profits, and I don't think these institutions
32:04
Speaker 13: are going to be banks. But it's difficult to know
32:09
Speaker 13: how much money they will take off the banks in
32:11
Speaker 13: actual fact, to what extent they will actually replace bank
32:13
Speaker 13: services and to what extent they will be actually offering
32:16
Speaker 13: something different in addition to what the banks are doing.
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Speaker 3: Claire, I thank you for your time today. Claire Matthews
32:20
Speaker 3: from Massey University. Word of the day, hyperbolic. Seven to six.
32:26
Speaker 2: Andrew Dickens on Early Edition with Spark for Business. Technology
32:30
Speaker 2: that keeps business moving.
32:32
Speaker 1: Newstalk ZB.
32:34
Speaker 3: Mike Hosking, have you seen Have you seen the Jaguar
32:37
Speaker 3: Type 01 Grand Tourer.
32:40
Speaker 13: EV?
32:41
Speaker 15: It's 01.
32:41
Speaker 18: And here's the Type 0. Now, the only reason I
32:43
Speaker 18: say that is they've made a big deal out of it,
32:45
Speaker 18: and I was watching a bunch because it got globally
32:47
Speaker 18: released yesterday.
32:48
Speaker 17: Yes.
32:48
Speaker 3: And it's a major deal for Jaguar.
32:50
Speaker 15: Yes.
32:51
Speaker 18: It's the only car they make at the moment, and
32:53
Speaker 18: it's got to work. Otherwise, it's the end of Jaguar.
32:56
Speaker 18: So the reason for the zero as opposed to the
32:58
Speaker 18: O is the 00 emissions. And so it goes back
33:02
Speaker 18: the E type, the D type, the old one. So
33:04
Speaker 18: type 00 emissions won the first of its kind.
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Speaker 5: Mate.
33:08
Speaker 3: I've always wanted a Jaguar because they're elegant and classical cars.
33:10
Speaker 3: You don't like them? Oh, my God. This car, what
33:13
Speaker 3: is it? Two meters wide, 5.2 meters long. It's more
33:17
Speaker 3: of tank than car. Everyone's saying it's a gargantuan getaway
33:21
Speaker 3: vehicle for the mafia. It's as ugly as. No, I disagree.
33:27
Speaker 1: It will be.
33:28
Speaker 3: It's divisive.
33:29
Speaker 18: There's no question about that. But they set out to
33:31
Speaker 18: make it divisive. And so it'll either be loved or hated.
33:34
Speaker 18: And so I like that. I mean, you look at
33:36
Speaker 18: the Chinese boxers. I mean, they're indistinguishable. There is no
33:40
Speaker 18: design quality in any of them. This at least makes
33:42
Speaker 18: a statement. So some will love it, some won't.
33:44
Speaker 3: Well, have you seen the aerodynamic breakdown of it?
33:47
Speaker 9: I have indeed.
33:47
Speaker 1: It's useless.
33:48
Speaker 9: I have indeed.
33:49
Speaker 3: It's a flying brick. It's a Volvo from the 70s.
33:52
Speaker 3: It's what EVs are. No, it's not.
33:55
Speaker 18: The level of weight carried in an EV versus the
33:58
Speaker 18: power of an EV, you can overcome anything.
34:01
Speaker 3: But if you're going to have the weight, you're going
34:02
Speaker 3: to have to have the aerodynamics. But we could argue
34:04
Speaker 3: about this all day. But I think it's a freaking
34:05
Speaker 3: ugly car.
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Speaker 18: $ 300, 000.
34:07
Speaker 13: Yeah, I know.
34:08
Speaker 3: Which doesn't help.
34:10
Speaker 18: Anyway, Mark Greatbatch on the cricket this morning.
34:12
Speaker 3: Mark Greatbatch used to be the goalkeeper on my football
34:15
Speaker 3: side and we put him in because he was big.
34:19
Speaker 3: See you
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Speaker 16: Tomorrow.