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Bob Nightengale's Trade Deadline Intel: Skubal's next stop, Mason Miller trade odds + Braves-Jays rift? · Foul Territory

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  Speaker 1: back with us.
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  Speaker 2: Let's go to the headliner, Bob.
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  Speaker 1: Percentage chance that you think Derek Scoogle is on a
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  Speaker 1: different team early next week, and what those teams on
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  Speaker 1: the high list could look like right now in your
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  Speaker 1: mind that would give up a big package and take them.
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  Speaker 3: I think about eighty percent chance, if not a little higher.
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  Speaker 3: I just think that the way they have played, being
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  Speaker 3: you know, six games under five hundred, so they have
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  Speaker 3: no choice. I think they're going to try to thread
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  Speaker 3: the needle here and say, you know what, tall teams
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  Speaker 3: will trade them, but we need to start back that
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  Speaker 3: can fit in rotation right now and get some help
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  Speaker 3: in the future. I think they're going to try to
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  Speaker 3: do both ways because they don't want to upset the
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  Speaker 3: fan base. They don't want to upset the club, the
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  Speaker 3: players in the clubhouse. I think they should keep them
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  Speaker 3: because I think that rotation scary. But I think they
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  Speaker 3: kind of desperate to make sure they get something out
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  Speaker 3: of them, so I think you're gonna move them, but
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  Speaker 3: I do think it gets the major league's return. I
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  Speaker 3: still think the Dodgers are number one fit Uh. Remember
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  Speaker 3: now he's still got nine and a half million bucks
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  Speaker 3: in that payroll. I'm in his contract. That's tough to uh,
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  Speaker 3: you know for a lot of teams to pay the Dodgers.
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  Speaker 3: I think they need the guy, I mean Otani. Now
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  Speaker 3: it said last night he's got a bicep problem. You know,
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  Speaker 3: where do you know about his knee problem? So you
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  Speaker 3: really can't count him in the postseason. So you got Yamamoto.
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  Speaker 3: Snells only pitch three innings all year?
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  Speaker 4: Uh?
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  Speaker 3: Sasaki? You know he's not a given you know what,
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  Speaker 3: you can get a glass now, Robleski. Uh, you know
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  Speaker 3: it's already passes. Uh, you know, career high innings. So
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  Speaker 3: I'll go Dodgers one Atlanta to uh Tampa three Milwaukee four?
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  Speaker 5: Wow. Wow.
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  Speaker 4: Okay, that was my question. Where do you think he
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  Speaker 4: ends up? Apparently l A. Why wouldn't Why why would
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  Speaker 4: the Rays or Brewers not do this? Is it simply
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  Speaker 4: because of the rental situation and he's only possibly going
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  Speaker 4: to be there for one year and they don't want
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  Speaker 4: to give up what they would need to give up?
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  Speaker 4: Is that why you don't see the Rays or Brewers
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  Speaker 4: making a huge splash, because those are the teams with
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  Speaker 4: the best records right now.
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  Speaker 3: No great. I mean I think the Rays will be
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  Speaker 3: in and unfor sure. I think they might be more
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  Speaker 3: aggressive in Milwaukee. The Brewers just have never done this.
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  Speaker 3: Uh yeah, they got the top farm system or you know,
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  Speaker 3: top three. If I'm the Brewers, I'd do it. Pair
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  Speaker 3: him with Menzerowski as a scare rotation, and they're not
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  Speaker 3: gonna have a chance to knock out the Dodgers less
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  Speaker 3: they move make a move like this. You know another
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  Speaker 3: you know, teams are talking about Parolta, but pretty parra Alta.
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  Speaker 3: You know, you know, nice pitcher, but he's not care
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  Speaker 3: at schoolball. I would love to see that Brewers go
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  Speaker 3: all in and finally get over the hump and get
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  Speaker 3: back to the World Series. Man, but nineteen eighty two
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  Speaker 3: a long long.
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  Speaker 6: Time, Bob, you said eighty percent, What on earth would
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  Speaker 6: happen for the twenty percent? Nobody gives them more than
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  Speaker 6: what they'd get back from a qualifying offer.
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  Speaker 3: But I think the America League is just so bad.
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  Speaker 3: It's like, okay, I think that they face the A's
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  Speaker 3: after this, they go to Sacramento. You know what, if
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  Speaker 3: they're even in the wild card and race only what
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  Speaker 3: three back in the lost column or right there? Uh,
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  Speaker 3: and kind of looking around, maybe they say, you know what,
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  Speaker 3: let's go with this guy. I think they got a
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  Speaker 3: great rotation. My stays healthy. They can knock off anybody.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, it's different than the National League because nationally
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  Speaker 3: you still got to go up against the Dodgers, Phillies, Brewers, Atlanta.
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  Speaker 3: The America League, who you got to go up against,
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  Speaker 3: there's nobody that scares you. You know, probably the most
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  Speaker 3: powerful team in the America League right now, it's proably
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  Speaker 3: the Red Sox.
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  Speaker 5: All Right, Mason Miller.
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  Speaker 6: We if we're doing percentages, what's the percentage chance that
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  Speaker 6: they that they trade Mason Miller? But the Padres aren't
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  Speaker 6: cashing it in because Prowler never cashes it in.
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  Speaker 3: No, but it's got a new ownership coming in. You're
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  Speaker 3: drawing more than three million fans a year. I think
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  Speaker 3: maybe fifteen or twenty percent chance if they do. They
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  Speaker 3: got to get some pitches, return starts, a return get
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  Speaker 3: you only got about two starters. So I would do
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  Speaker 3: it because I think a lot of times, you know,
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  Speaker 3: he's been a kind of wasted this year. He's got
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  Speaker 3: a couple of times this year. But he's gotten you know,
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  Speaker 3: five days without pitching, six days up pitching, and we
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  Speaker 3: have an elite closing like this, you got to use them.
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  Speaker 3: So uh, you know, I think they end up keeping
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  Speaker 3: them just because same thing. I mean, all they got
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  Speaker 3: to do is beat out Pittsburgh and uh in Arizona
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  Speaker 3: for that last walk Ard spot. With the way the
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  Speaker 3: Phillips has struggled, you might even get the number five
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  Speaker 3: seed instead of the sixth seed.
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  Speaker 4: Wow, what does it? What does a deal for Mason
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  Speaker 4: Miller look like? We know what they had to give
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  Speaker 4: up to get him, is it would they be looking
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  Speaker 4: for if it did happen the same type of return
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  Speaker 4: that they had to give up to get Mason Miller
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  Speaker 4: from Sacramento, they would.
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  Speaker 3: I just don't see eighteen getting him. I mean giving
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  Speaker 3: up like that, that was a ton they gave up.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, we haven't seen, you know, a package like
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  Speaker 3: that since the one Soto deal that the National has
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  Speaker 3: got from San Diego. So even when San Diego flipped them,
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  Speaker 3: they didn't get the same return. I think, same thing here.
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  Speaker 3: They're not gonna get back what they gave up to
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  Speaker 3: Oakland or gave up to the Age to begin with.
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  Speaker 6: If Mason's not really available or most likely not available
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  Speaker 6: without a big haul, who's that next best closer that's
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  Speaker 6: available because teams are looking for that position.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean they could trade on Moro hon and uh,
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  Speaker 3: you can go that way. The setup guy. I mean, uh,
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  Speaker 3: he's a lefty. Every team could use them, but fasos
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  Speaker 3: Dodgers in the in the playoffs, you know, Dodgers went
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  Speaker 3: fi their top seven guys or left handed otherwise, you know,
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  Speaker 3: it drops off O'Brien. Maybe with Saint Louis.
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  Speaker 7: Uh.
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  Speaker 3: I think you know we're talking about you know, Harper's
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  Speaker 3: comments in Pulley before you know we're talking last week.
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  Speaker 3: I think Hoffman Jeff Abmin would make a lot of
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  Speaker 3: sense there. He was with them before. They like him.
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  Speaker 3: He knows everybody there. But I could see Hoppin, you know,
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  Speaker 3: at least be a setup guy for Duran in Philadelphia.
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  Speaker 4: Wow, Okay, closers are going to be popular, Bob, But
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  Speaker 4: closers are going to be popular. I'm gonna go to
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  Speaker 4: my favorite team. We all know who this is, the
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  Speaker 4: White Sox. Will the White Sox actually do something? I've
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  Speaker 4: heard they're really going to be aggressive. They're really going
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  Speaker 4: to try. But will they make the big splash. They
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  Speaker 4: are in first place, the American League is down. Will
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  Speaker 4: the White Sox really go for it?
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  Speaker 3: They won't, just because they've gone to the thanks a lot.
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  Speaker 3: But when you think about it, you know, if they
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  Speaker 3: go for it and trade with their top prospects, it
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  Speaker 3: doesn't work out in the same position they were in.
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  Speaker 3: Got two guys fired already over that. So if there's
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  Speaker 3: a picture available and you know, just take this contract
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  Speaker 3: and not give up much, so I'll do it. I
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  Speaker 3: can't see them giving up a top ten prospect unless
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  Speaker 3: it's like you get a redet Meers or showing you
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  Speaker 3: know that's already got two and a half years of control.
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  Speaker 3: I just don't think they'll go all in just for
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  Speaker 3: a rental. Yeah, yeah, I think they make the playoffs.
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  Speaker 3: They don't want a playoff game. It's an unbelievable season.
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  Speaker 3: I think there'll sell more season tickets next year anyway.
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  Speaker 3: But I just don't see them giveaway prospects just just
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  Speaker 3: to go for it this year.
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  Speaker 6: Is there anything saying that they wouldn't take on you said,
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  Speaker 6: you said possibly, if they get somebody, they'd be taking
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  Speaker 6: on somebody's contract. It Pittures contract, Like, is there a
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  Speaker 6: possibility that there's some money there for Jerry to allow
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  Speaker 6: Chris Getz to spend.
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  Speaker 3: I think there's definitely money there. I think their attendance
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  Speaker 3: is up at least projected to be up four hundred
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  Speaker 3: and five hundred thousand over over what they thought at
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  Speaker 3: least over a year ago. And there's gonna some more
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  Speaker 3: season tickets next year too, just because you know, the
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  Speaker 3: team got Pivo excited. So there's so many money in there.
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  Speaker 3: I think they got the third lowest payroll. They just
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  Speaker 3: don't want to give up the prospects. But like you'll say, ah,
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  Speaker 3: you know Array of the Giants. You know he's making
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  Speaker 3: twenty family of a year. If it doesn't cost mentioned prospects,
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  Speaker 3: you know, I can see him going there.
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  Speaker 4: And then what other teams, Bob, since you broke my
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  Speaker 4: heart in the White Sox, what other teams are all talked?
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  Speaker 4: Then you're saying that the White Sox aren't going to
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  Speaker 4: do anything. Brewers raise braves. Some of these teams, which
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  Speaker 4: are these other mariners? Which of these teams are all
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  Speaker 4: talked to need help? And they're just like the White
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  Speaker 4: Sox break break my heart some more, Bob.
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  Speaker 3: Well, it is different. I mean, Seattle, it's a complete
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  Speaker 3: disaster if you don't make the playoffs. I mean, what
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  Speaker 3: a waste of a pitching staff again. And then I
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  Speaker 3: think people's jobs are on the line. I think they
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  Speaker 3: you know, whether it's the manager, where's the GM. I
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  Speaker 3: think they got to make the mom to get a bat.
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  Speaker 3: No choice with the rais no big deal. They you know,
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  Speaker 3: nobody expect the Raised to be in this position. I
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  Speaker 3: think the Raised internal projections were ninety wins. But you know, uh,
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  Speaker 3: they don't have to make that big move. I think
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  Speaker 3: Atlanta would love to get our starter. They had their
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  Speaker 3: eyes on Sunny Gray before the Red Sox got hot.
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  Speaker 3: So I'm not sure Scooba fits in with them. But
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  Speaker 3: you know some other guys would for sure, you know,
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  Speaker 3: they'll go after read det Mers or something like that.
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  Speaker 3: But neil uh a Pralta. But I'm not sure you
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  Speaker 3: know that Atlanta says we got to go get Schooble.
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  Speaker 3: I'm not sure they believe that there should be all
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  Speaker 3: in either.
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  Speaker 6: You said, the Brewers just don't do that. They don't
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  Speaker 6: go all in for a Tereric scouble. What is all
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  Speaker 6: in for the Brewers? What type of move or who
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  Speaker 6: is that type of move in that category for the Brewers?
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, I could see him. If you don't get a
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  Speaker 3: you know Schooball, you know, getting someone like a uh,
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  Speaker 3: I'm not even sure, you know, getting at least a
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  Speaker 3: Rodney and Ray getting another reliever. I think they got
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  Speaker 3: to get and get in their beat. If they could
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  Speaker 3: go get a big bat. I don't know if maybe
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  Speaker 3: it's a Versha a Hoffin combination from Toronto or something
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  Speaker 3: like that, but you know, their last in the league
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  Speaker 3: and home runs, they could use another late anyone leave
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  Speaker 3: for sure, and they definitely need their starter if they're
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  Speaker 3: giving you serious about taking out the Dodgers.
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  Speaker 4: Boh, the Brewers? What would be? How would the fans
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  Speaker 4: react if they do this again and they don't. I
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  Speaker 4: mean it's been twenty eighteen, they finally they did win
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  Speaker 4: a playoff series last year. You mentioned nineteen eighty two.
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  Speaker 4: They haven't been to the World Series. There you said
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  Speaker 4: the Mariners could be a wasted year if they don't
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  Speaker 4: make it. Is the Brewers. Do you start looking at
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  Speaker 4: the Brewers as wasting years of this team that has
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  Speaker 4: been so special. I know they keep turning it over
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  Speaker 4: and they keep winning, but if they don't ever do
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  Speaker 4: it and they never make it to that World Series,
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  Speaker 4: do you consider it them wasting years? Also?
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  Speaker 3: Because they're so so young. It's not like I said,
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  Speaker 3: your Dodgers got to win now because the team get older,
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  Speaker 3: or like the Phillies have got to win now. I
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  Speaker 3: think what happened would helped them in big time last year,
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  Speaker 3: just the fact then knocked off the Cubs in the playoffs.
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  Speaker 3: I was there for Game five to set a game.
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  Speaker 3: You would have thought they won the World Series. You
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  Speaker 3: knew they weren't going to be the Dodgers because they
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  Speaker 3: spend all their energy just knocking off the Cubs. So
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  Speaker 3: you know this year what they're supposed to win eighty
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  Speaker 3: three the four games back in the playoffs. Again, they
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  Speaker 3: could end up with the best record in baseball. So
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  Speaker 3: I think they I didn't think I at least get
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  Speaker 3: the NLCS. Then I think the fans would be happy.
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  Speaker 3: But I think the fans would go, you know, absolutely
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  Speaker 3: ballistic if they got a guy like Scooba. Uh, but
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  Speaker 3: you know, they sell so many tickets anyway, It's not
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  Speaker 3: like they're gonna have a huge jumping season ticket sales.
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  Speaker 3: But it was certainly exact a fan base, and of
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  Speaker 3: course everybody in that club goes.
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  Speaker 6: You mentioned the Phillies window. Essentially you said the window
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  Speaker 6: is closing for this team. How aggressive and what moves
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  Speaker 6: do you feel like are in store for Dave Dombrowski
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  Speaker 6: and the Phillies.
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  Speaker 3: But they got to get another reliever. You know, losing
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  Speaker 3: miss Keller was huge to them, So they got to
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  Speaker 3: get a setup guy for Duran and they got to
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  Speaker 3: get in her Bet. You know, that's why maybe you
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  Speaker 3: know that that hopping on varshow combination makes a lot
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  Speaker 3: of sense. And again to Joe Adell from Anaheim, that
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  Speaker 3: would make a lot of sense. But I don't think
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  Speaker 3: they're gonna They're not could be there on August fourth
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  Speaker 3: without addressing those two things, like you in our starter,
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  Speaker 3: But that's kind of least of their concerns right now.
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  Speaker 3: It's pretty much those two guys to have a chance.
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  Speaker 3: I mean, you talk to Phillies and you talk to
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  Speaker 3: the front office. They believe they should have had a
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  Speaker 3: world series by now, you know, since twenty twenty one,
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  Speaker 3: if not two rings, this might be the weakest, you
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  Speaker 3: know team of those five. But I think they got
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  Speaker 3: to get those two guys. And you know, like you
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  Speaker 3: guys are talking about what Harper said, they're all saying
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  Speaker 3: the same thing. They've ben't seeing that for a month now,
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  Speaker 3: the front office knows that it's just a yeah, I
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  Speaker 3: was surprised at badally the wrong way like that. But
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  Speaker 3: remember Don Sun's the GM, so it might be a
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  Speaker 3: little sensitive there.
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  Speaker 4: I forgot about that ball. That's smart. I forgot Preson's
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  Speaker 4: the GM. So I'm like, hey, leave my kid alone,
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  Speaker 4: Leave my son alone, Bob. That's like you when I
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  Speaker 4: say bad things about the Twins beat writers, you say,
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  Speaker 4: leave my son alone. A kidding.
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  Speaker 5: Oh, it's understood.
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  Speaker 4: It's interested. One team we didn't talk about, we haven't
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  Speaker 4: even mentioned yet, and we're deep in this conversation is
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  Speaker 4: the New York Yankees. They don't usually make these huge splashes,
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  Speaker 4: but they do have some holes. Is there a move
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  Speaker 4: out there that can fix the Yankees? And by the way,
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  Speaker 4: before you answer that, do we have an Aaron Judge
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  Speaker 4: status update other than he gets more imaging like once
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  Speaker 4: a week.
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  Speaker 3: Hey, what they're more they're more worried about Judge than
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  Speaker 3: they let on. They don't know whether it's coming back
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  Speaker 3: or not. We'll see, and they're keeping their fingers crossed
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  Speaker 3: saying their prayers at night. But you know, if he
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  Speaker 3: hasn't come back, you know then it's like, Okay, how
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  Speaker 3: aggressive you really want to be? You know I can
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  Speaker 3: win the World Series without Aaron Judge, So yeah, they
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  Speaker 3: got to get in our bad You know they'd love
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  Speaker 3: to go all in a Bason Miller. You know, you
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  Speaker 3: get them for four years, you know, be there, you know,
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  Speaker 3: guy to be the be the Mario Rivera for them
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  Speaker 3: and get them where they want to be. So I
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  Speaker 3: think they'll be aggressive, but I don't think they're going
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  Speaker 3: to go absolutely crazy just because of the Judge status.
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  Speaker 3: And they know for sure Judge would come back. But
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  Speaker 3: you're talking about even it became Bennett. You spissed so
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  Speaker 3: much time, you know how you know, what does he
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  Speaker 3: have left in the tank to help him this year?
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  Speaker 1: Big second half of the season coming up, there might
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  Speaker 6: Do you see any specific teams acting differently because of
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  Speaker 6: the uncertainty of twenty twenty seven here at this trade deadline?
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  Speaker 3: I think the only thing is you talk to GMS
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  Speaker 3: is that, okay, if there's a salary cap next year,
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  Speaker 3: those young guys not making money and be more valuable
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  Speaker 3: than ever, so you really don't want to give them up.
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  Speaker 3: So I don't hear anybody's talking about acting different, because
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  Speaker 3: if it's gonna be a shorter season, we're just going
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  Speaker 3: to half the season, lose the whole season. But nothing
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  Speaker 3: like that. But just if there's a salary cap and
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  Speaker 3: you've got a big market team, you're gonna have to
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  Speaker 3: start blopping off some salaries. You know. I think it'll
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  Speaker 3: right away, but certainly you're gonna have to do it
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  Speaker 4: Bob, A lot of catchers, A lot of catchers, A
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  Speaker 4: lot of teams need catching. I love catchers, crafts loves catchers.
• 16:57
  Speaker 4: Catchers are the smartest people, usually the best looking on
• 17:00
  Speaker 4: a team. Right, won't there be any catchers traded? I mean,
• 17:03
  Speaker 4: Hunter Goodman, We've heard Salvi Perez basically came out and
• 17:06
  Speaker 4: said he won't. He doesn't think you'll waive as no
• 17:08
  Speaker 4: trade clause, or do you think there'll be any catchers? Addly,
• 17:11
  Speaker 4: Pasaio's obviously not going anywhere, but do you think there'll
• 17:13
  Speaker 4: be any catchers move? Because that is a position of
• 17:16
  Speaker 4: need for a lot of these teams.
• 17:19
  Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't see good moving neither. I mean, you
• 17:21
  Speaker 3: got them for four more years, and the guys have
• 17:23
  Speaker 3: study hit more home runs, you know, on the road
• 17:26
  Speaker 3: in that courtse field. I think I know the Twins
• 17:29
  Speaker 3: are in this thing. I think Ryan Jeffers can still
• 17:31
  Speaker 3: be traded. They got Karatini there, they can do both,
• 17:34
  Speaker 3: still stay in the race. Get some help, especially they
• 17:37
  Speaker 3: need some bullpen help, you know. With the Twins, a
• 17:40
  Speaker 3: gotta be kicking themselves, as you know, giving away Louis
• 17:42
  Speaker 3: Barland last year, tradding away Duran if they had just
• 17:46
  Speaker 3: kept one of them, just say, Barlin is a local
• 17:49
  Speaker 3: kid not making money. That might be win that division
• 17:51
  Speaker 3: by five games. So I'm sure that decision haunts them
• 17:56
  Speaker 3: every single night. But they could trade Jeffers to get
• 17:58
  Speaker 3: some bullpen help. He's gonna leave anywhe at the end
• 18:01
  Speaker 3: the year.
• 18:04
  Speaker 6: What about the Mets? What what about the Mets? A
• 18:06
  Speaker 6: team that has been out of it for two months,
• 18:09
  Speaker 6: they should be the most prepared for this trade deadline.
• 18:13
  Speaker 3: I know they've been prepared for the Beltron party in Cooperstown.
• 18:17
  Speaker 3: But yeah, yeah, they're gonna move everybody, and uh, they'd
• 18:21
  Speaker 3: love to move a ut Lindor at some point. They
• 18:23
  Speaker 3: don't think they can do it now, just with the money.
• 18:25
  Speaker 3: It's so complicated. For if Londora's moved, it would more
• 18:29
  Speaker 3: be in the off season where teams can figure out
• 18:32
  Speaker 3: their payroll and everything else. But I'd be surprised to
• 18:35
  Speaker 3: see him still with the Mets a year from now.
• 18:38
  Speaker 3: I just think they want to shake things up. And
• 18:40
  Speaker 3: you know, I know how popular he is, you know,
• 18:42
  Speaker 3: But so it was Alonzo and they moved, so I
• 18:45
  Speaker 3: could see a lot of activity with Lindor, uh you
• 18:48
  Speaker 3: know this winner, but but not now. But yeah, otherwise,
• 18:52
  Speaker 3: I think just about everybody else else in the team
• 18:54
  Speaker 3: except the young guys are available.
• 18:57
  Speaker 4: Well, you mentioned Carlos beltromp So I'm going to ask this,
• 19:00
  Speaker 4: and it's kind of a little bit off the subject
• 19:02
  Speaker 4: of trades, which I love when we don't have to
• 19:04
  Speaker 4: talk about trades twenty four to seven, But is Carlos
• 19:06
  Speaker 4: Beltron going to be the manager of the Mets? I
• 19:08
  Speaker 4: know he already was and he got fired because of
• 19:10
  Speaker 4: the cheating thing with the trash can, but keep hearing
• 19:13
  Speaker 4: his name popping up all over the place. Andy Green's
• 19:16
  Speaker 4: I don't think is a long term solution for what
• 19:19
  Speaker 4: they want to do. But is Carlos Beltron going to
• 19:21
  Speaker 4: be the first, their first baby option, their first interview
• 19:25
  Speaker 4: for who they want.
• 19:27
  Speaker 3: I think he's been to have the job they really do,
• 19:29
  Speaker 3: and they asked me one it this summer, you know,
• 19:32
  Speaker 3: when they fire Mendoza, and he passed on it because
• 19:35
  Speaker 3: I think be as the Hall of Fame. Really it's like, okay,
• 19:37
  Speaker 3: I'm not going to do this. I got to prepare
• 19:39
  Speaker 3: for Cooper's Down. I'd be gone for a few days,
• 19:42
  Speaker 3: like to have a fresh start. So I think he's
• 19:45
  Speaker 3: the guy. I mean, they're having, you know, the big
• 19:47
  Speaker 3: lavish party at Cooper's Down for him having the ceremonies.
• 19:52
  Speaker 3: They love the guy. I think it's his job. I
• 19:55
  Speaker 3: still hear Chris Swinbert's name a little bit too as
• 19:59
  Speaker 3: far as the guy by a lacking interview, but I'd
• 20:01
  Speaker 3: be surprised or maybe even semi shocked it was not Beltron.
• 20:06
  Speaker 3: I thought I should have kept the job to begin with.
• 20:08
  Speaker 3: I that was ridiculous that he got fired when all
• 20:11
  Speaker 3: he was was a player during that scandal. It wasn't
• 20:13
  Speaker 3: like he was a GM or manager, and yet he
• 20:15
  Speaker 3: got punished the most.
• 20:18
  Speaker 6: You said the Mets should listen to anybody except for
• 20:20
  Speaker 6: the young guys. Who's the most valuable piece is Luke
• 20:22
  Speaker 6: Weaver because he's he's still locked in for another year
• 20:26
  Speaker 6: and he's pitching the best. Who's the most valuable piece
• 20:28
  Speaker 6: that that teams are going to inquire the most from
• 20:31
  Speaker 6: about from the Mets.
• 20:34
  Speaker 3: It might be play homes. You know, he's had a
• 20:36
  Speaker 3: couple of rehab assignments. Now he's probably going to opt
• 20:39
  Speaker 3: out anyway. It's only going to be about twelve Milly
• 20:41
  Speaker 3: dollars on his contract for next year if he doesn't
• 20:44
  Speaker 3: opt out. So I think people like him a lot
• 20:46
  Speaker 3: because he can do the you know, both ways, and
• 20:49
  Speaker 3: you need a reliever, you know, put kolds your bulk
• 20:51
  Speaker 3: and need a starter or do that where he could
• 20:53
  Speaker 3: do way uh you know the Phillies are talking about
• 20:56
  Speaker 3: if they got homes, he could start, you know, for
• 20:58
  Speaker 3: the rest of the year and then him in the
• 21:00
  Speaker 3: bullpen come postseason time. So I think he'd have a
• 21:03
  Speaker 3: little bit more of value than we would.
• 21:09
  Speaker 5: Last Oh.
• 21:12
  Speaker 4: No, I'm just I'm just surprised by that because you know,
• 21:14
  Speaker 4: wea were for at the beginning of your Mets fans
• 21:16
  Speaker 4: are ready to strangle him and Devin Williams and now
• 21:19
  Speaker 4: here they both are ended up actually having pretty good
• 21:22
  Speaker 4: years for both of them. Though it's kind of funny
• 21:24
  Speaker 4: that that's the thing. Also, it's a bother. There's one
• 21:26
  Speaker 4: more team that we haven't mentioned, the Cubs. The Cubs
• 21:28
  Speaker 4: the DFA Jameson tie On. They need pitching. We all
• 21:32
  Speaker 4: know they need pitching. Maybe another battle. Well, the Cubs
• 21:34
  Speaker 4: make a move not to win the division because Jed
• 21:37
  Speaker 4: Hoyer said, oh, we only want to do it if
• 21:39
  Speaker 4: we can beat get the buye right. Well, if the
• 21:41
  Speaker 4: Cubs fans, they're just happy they're in the playoffs, they
• 21:44
  Speaker 4: have a chance to win. So does that mean Jed
• 21:46
  Speaker 4: Hoyer won't make the big move because they're probably not
• 21:48
  Speaker 4: going to win the division.
• 21:50
  Speaker 3: I think they'll make a big move. I think they'll
• 21:52
  Speaker 3: be in on all the all the starters, you know,
• 21:54
  Speaker 3: whether it's say, you know, School Bawl or anybody else.
• 21:58
  Speaker 3: But I think, you know, I think Matt saw It
• 22:00
  Speaker 3: is a great trade piece. I think they get a
• 22:02
  Speaker 3: lot by using Shaw and the trade, but they got
• 22:05
  Speaker 3: to have a starter. If they weren't serious about that,
• 22:07
  Speaker 3: they want to you know, DFA tie on Who's so
• 22:10
  Speaker 3: poper that clubhouse, and there was a big wake up
• 22:12
  Speaker 3: call to those guys. But I think it's also a
• 22:14
  Speaker 3: sign that, hey, we're in this thing, you know, just
• 22:17
  Speaker 3: like you know, heard some feelings here, but we're going
• 22:20
  Speaker 3: for it. So no, I think, you know, they got
• 22:23
  Speaker 3: to go get a starter. I think they feel like
• 22:25
  Speaker 3: if they get a starter to at least have a
• 22:27
  Speaker 3: chance against the Dieters. So and right now, the way
• 22:30
  Speaker 3: they're you know, trending, they could get the number four seed,
• 22:34
  Speaker 3: so at least you to have home field advantage in
• 22:36
  Speaker 3: that wildcard round until the next play the next division series.
• 22:41
  Speaker 2: Bob, you are the best. Thank you.
• 22:42
  Speaker 1: We got to a lot. That's why it's night in
• 22:44
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• 22:46
  Speaker 1: on the Sunday column that I love so dearly for
• 22:48
  Speaker 1: many years. Appreciate you. We'll talk again very soon about
• 22:52
  Speaker 1: trade deadline.
• 22:53
  Speaker 3: Look forward to it. Thank you, guys, Thank you, thank you.
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  Speaker 5: Yeah, that's what he said.
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  Speaker 2: That's what he said.
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  Speaker 5: That's what he said.
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  Speaker 2: That's what he said.
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  Speaker 1: Guys, I thought this was interesting. Ken Rosenthal hopping on
• 24:02
  Speaker 1: Hammer Territory Brave show that's part of the FT Network,
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  Speaker 1: and they asked a question that I just didn't even consider.
• 24:09
  Speaker 1: Alexanthopolis and his relationship with the Blue Jays. Blue Jays
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  Speaker 1: could be big sellers over the next few days. Braves
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  Speaker 1: definitely have some interest in their players. Let's run with
• 24:20
  Speaker 1: Ken said.
• 24:22
  Speaker 8: Do you see any world where the Blue Jays sell
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  Speaker 8: off some pieces and would Gosman be a guy that
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  Speaker 8: they could potentially pivot to.
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  Speaker 2: I see that world.
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  Speaker 8: I definitely see the Blue Jays potentially selling pieces. What
• 24:34
  Speaker 8: I have a harder time saying is the Blue Jays
• 24:37
  Speaker 8: trading with Alexanthopolis.
• 24:39
  Speaker 7: There are feelings There's got that way, There are.
• 24:42
  Speaker 9: Emotions there, and Anthopolis, of course would not work for
• 24:46
  Speaker 9: Mark Schapiro, who is now the team president. I would
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  Speaker 9: think Toronto would have a hard time dealing with Alex now.
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  Speaker 7: If he makes the best offer for Gossman and it's
• 24:56
  Speaker 7: in the best interest of both, I don't know why
• 24:58
  Speaker 7: you wouldn't you put all that past side. It's been
• 25:01
  Speaker 7: ten years now almost, But you.
• 25:04
  Speaker 8: Guys know, sometimes personal feelings do come into play, and
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  Speaker 8: I could see it in this case more.
• 25:10
  Speaker 7: Than maybe in some others. If like the GM doesn't
• 25:12
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• 25:21
  Speaker 5: But that could be a roadblock.
• 25:26
  Speaker 1: And aj the same people are there, right, Like Mark
• 25:28
  Speaker 1: Shapiro is still running the Blue Jays front office, so
• 25:32
  Speaker 1: if there was some past beef, you know, his front
• 25:35
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• 25:38
  Speaker 1: Atlanta side and potentially helping them win a World Series
• 25:43
  Speaker 1: is tough when people have personal feelings.
• 25:45
  Speaker 2: So do you think that this.
• 25:47
  Speaker 1: Could preclude a trade from going down between these two teams?
• 25:51
  Speaker 4: I hope not, but yes, Ken summed it up. We
• 25:53
  Speaker 4: all know personal feelings happen. I remember with the White Sox,
• 25:56
  Speaker 4: you'd hear all the time certain people didn't want to
• 25:58
  Speaker 4: deal with the White Sox front office. White Sox front
• 26:00
  Speaker 4: officer say, I don't want to deal with this guy
• 26:02
  Speaker 4: on this team because he screwed me fifteen years ago
• 26:04
  Speaker 4: in the past. Or I don't want to deal with
• 26:06
  Speaker 4: this agent because I don't like the way he cost
• 26:09
  Speaker 4: us this draft pick or whatever it is. So I
• 26:11
  Speaker 4: hope it doesn't happen. But we're human beings, and we
• 26:14
  Speaker 4: get emotional and we get mad at people, and we
• 26:17
  Speaker 4: hold grudges and we keep receipts and then, oh, I
• 26:21
  Speaker 4: got a chance to screw this guy over, I'm gonna
• 26:23
  Speaker 4: take every advantage because of what he did to me
• 26:25
  Speaker 4: twenty years ago. Trust me, I'm one of the worst
• 26:27
  Speaker 4: at It's one of my bad qualities that I had
• 26:29
  Speaker 4: that I definitely try to work on. But it's just hard.
• 26:34
  Speaker 5: Obviously I don't know this beef.
• 26:35
  Speaker 6: Obviously, I know, you know the Anthopolis didn't want to
• 26:38
  Speaker 6: work for Shapiro. But I do know what AJ was
• 26:41
  Speaker 6: talking about. What year did Garcia get traded from the
• 26:45
  Speaker 6: White Sox to the Phillies.
• 26:46
  Speaker 4: Do you remember, Uh, No, it's two thousand and seven.
• 26:52
  Speaker 4: Maybe it was when they got Geo Gonzalez back. I
• 26:55
  Speaker 4: think it was two thousand and seven.
• 26:57
  Speaker 6: Essentially, this was five years later, and I had no
• 27:00
  Speaker 6: idea what was happening. I heard somebody from the Philly say,
• 27:05
  Speaker 6: we won't do we won't do any we won't do
• 27:08
  Speaker 6: any trades with the White Sox because of the Garcia trade.
• 27:12
  Speaker 5: And I was like, what happened?
• 27:13
  Speaker 6: And he told me, and I was like, okay, But
• 27:15
  Speaker 6: this was five plus years after that.
• 27:18
  Speaker 5: They don't they don't forget.
• 27:20
  Speaker 6: It's like until that person's out of that position, we're
• 27:23
  Speaker 6: not making a move because people don't trust them, or
• 27:26
  Speaker 6: you know, whatever happened with Anthopolis and Shapiro. Hey, I
• 27:30
  Speaker 6: won't work for you. You know that's that's real. These
• 27:33
  Speaker 6: moves are will sometimes it's robots and analytics and computers.
• 27:38
  Speaker 6: These moves are made by humans. And you have to
• 27:40
  Speaker 6: trust the person that you're getting, you know, the player
• 27:43
  Speaker 6: that you're getting from that team.
• 27:47
  Speaker 1: December sixth, two thousand and six, that was when the
• 27:51
  Speaker 1: trade went down.
• 27:52
  Speaker 4: I nailed that pretty good about myself. I nailed that,
• 27:56
  Speaker 4: I said for two thousands.
• 27:59
  Speaker 1: Still got it better than yours, is better than mine.
• 28:01
  Speaker 2: I'll I'll tell you that.
• 28:02
  Speaker 1: Yeah, Freddie Garcia of the Phillies for Gavin Floyd and
• 28:06
  Speaker 1: Geoe Gonzalez.
• 28:08
  Speaker 4: I forgot Gavin Floyd came over now. But I remember
• 28:10
  Speaker 4: Geo because the White Sox traded drafted Geo traded him
• 28:15
  Speaker 4: for Jim Tolemy, got him back for Freddy, and then
• 28:18
  Speaker 4: traded him to Oakland for Swisher, And he didn't pitch
• 28:20
  Speaker 4: for I don't know if you ever pitched for the
• 28:22
  Speaker 4: White Sox until later on in his career, but he
• 28:24
  Speaker 4: never like he came up originally, and they he had
• 28:28
  Speaker 4: been traded like three times from and away from the
• 28:31
  Speaker 4: White Sox without ever pitching for him.
• 28:36
  Speaker 2: Grudges are real. They are.
• 28:38
  Speaker 1: And also there are ownership grudges that we probably don't
• 28:43
  Speaker 1: even know about, and those are the most real. Do
• 28:45
  Speaker 1: you want to know why? Because they are allowed to
• 28:48
  Speaker 1: act with emotion. Most front offices have to shove a
• 28:52
  Speaker 1: lot of that aside, but then when it comes to
• 28:54
  Speaker 1: actually getting approval, the owner has to be okay with
• 28:58
  Speaker 1: that move, right. That's why the division thing happens all
• 29:01
  Speaker 1: the time, because if you're an owner of a team,
• 29:03
  Speaker 1: you're feeling the most affected by and paying the most
• 29:07
  Speaker 1: attention to what's going on in your division. I would
• 29:09
  Speaker 1: say more so than the front office. Would you agree
• 29:12
  Speaker 1: with that? Aj Like, if you're an owner of a team,
• 29:15
  Speaker 1: you're telling your front office, hey, be careful here. I
• 29:18
  Speaker 1: don't want to be known as the guy that helped
• 29:20
  Speaker 1: a team in our division, while the front office is going, hey,
• 29:22
  Speaker 1: they're giving us the best offer. I want whatever's going
• 29:25
  Speaker 1: to help our team up its value a little bit
• 29:28
  Speaker 1: over the next few years.
• 29:30
  Speaker 4: You mean the Jerry reins Worf won't trade in his division?
• 29:32
  Speaker 4: Was that last year?
• 29:33
  Speaker 5: We heard that rumor?
• 29:34
  Speaker 4: And then he's like, that's absolutely not true, But they
• 29:37
  Speaker 4: still don't think. And they also had a thing where
• 29:39
  Speaker 4: they would never trade with the Cubs for a long time.
• 29:40
  Speaker 4: But I think that one's passed also, So I don't know. Yeah,
• 29:44
  Speaker 4: do I think it's yes? We're human being Scott. How
• 29:46
  Speaker 4: many times I go to say this? People are human,
• 29:48
  Speaker 4: This is a human game. This is not just fantasy land.
• 29:51
  Speaker 4: There's human feelings of all there's I mean, listen, I
• 29:54
  Speaker 4: remember for years the White Sox had a thing, we
• 29:56
  Speaker 4: will not take a Scott Boris client because they didn't
• 29:58
  Speaker 4: want to deal with Scott Boris. And that was because
• 30:00
  Speaker 4: he screwed him over I don't even remember what it was.
• 30:02
  Speaker 4: Some somewhere along the way a draft pick got messed
• 30:04
  Speaker 4: up and he didn't sign or something. So the Whites
• 30:07
  Speaker 4: actually screw him. He's impossible to deal with him. They
• 30:09
  Speaker 4: wouldn't get a Boris player. So, I mean, stuff happens.
• 30:13
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that only works for a little bit of time
• 30:15
  Speaker 1: until you look at pre agency and you're like, uh,
• 30:19
  Speaker 1: there's a lot of guys that we would not be
• 30:22
  Speaker 1: able to call about it is. I mean that stuff
• 30:25
  Speaker 1: gets a little soft hey there. That occurs when owners
• 30:30
  Speaker 1: get affected by thinking they have a player and then
• 30:33
  Speaker 1: feeling as if name that agent you know, used him
• 30:37
  Speaker 1: for leverage, and it's like, I'm sorry, that's how the
• 30:39
  Speaker 1: free agency game works, you know, and they get personally
• 30:41
  Speaker 1: mad about it. I actually I think the Mets got
• 30:43
  Speaker 1: mad about wasn't it. Wasn't it Stephen Mattz that that
• 30:46
  Speaker 1: Cohen talked about a little bit years back. There's something there.
• 30:51
  Speaker 1: If one of you talk, I'll find it in five seconds.
• 30:53
  Speaker 1: But there was something there where there was a little
• 30:56
  Speaker 1: free agent dance. I think it was Matts. Yes, yes,
• 31:02
  Speaker 1: I found it. Cohen publicly criticized Stephen Mattz's agent in
• 31:07
  Speaker 1: November twenty twenty one after he chose to sign a
• 31:10
  Speaker 1: four year, forty four million dollar contract with the Cardinals
• 31:13
  Speaker 1: instead of returning to the Mets. He said he had
• 31:16
  Speaker 1: never seen such unprofessional behavior exhibited by a player's agent,
• 31:19
  Speaker 1: adding that words and promises don't matter. Agent Rob Martin
• 31:25
  Speaker 1: defended the decision, stating Matts loved his time, made the
• 31:28
  Speaker 1: best choice for his family after multiple competitive offers. I mean,
• 31:31
  Speaker 1: I was totally on Matt's side on this one. Like what,
• 31:34
  Speaker 1: you didn't have a deal done? I mean, Boba Schett
• 31:36
  Speaker 1: didn't have a deal done with the Phillies. You can
• 31:38
  Speaker 1: have a conversation. You can go over parameters if another
• 31:41
  Speaker 1: team wants to match that, It's called free agency. Most
• 31:44
  Speaker 1: players have to wait a decade to get there. It's
• 31:46
  Speaker 1: part of the game.
• 31:48
  Speaker 4: Look, I had this happen. I had this exact thing
• 31:50
  Speaker 4: happened to me one time. I mean not to the
• 31:52
  Speaker 4: point where I had, you know, people mad at me.
• 31:54
  Speaker 4: But in twenty ten, I was a free agent before
• 31:57
  Speaker 4: the twenty eleven season in I thought I was to
• 32:00
  Speaker 4: be a Dodger. I called my mom and said, hey,
• 32:02
  Speaker 4: I'm going to be a Dodger. We had gotten to
• 32:04
  Speaker 4: the point where literally it was done. All that was
• 32:07
  Speaker 4: waiting was Frank McCort was on a plane flying somewhere.
• 32:11
  Speaker 4: And he was on a plane and Ned Coletti, the
• 32:14
  Speaker 4: GM of the Dodgers, said hey, do we have a deal.
• 32:16
  Speaker 4: My agent said, once McCord finalizes it, i'll call it
• 32:20
  Speaker 4: AJ and finished this deal up. And in that time
• 32:24
  Speaker 4: before we said yes, in that time, the White Sox
• 32:26
  Speaker 4: called and said, hey, we'll offer you a two year deal.
• 32:29
  Speaker 4: It was for less money, but do you want to
• 32:30
  Speaker 4: come back? And I took it. So, yeah, it happens.
• 32:33
  Speaker 4: It happens now. I remember Jermaine die before he signed
• 32:36
  Speaker 4: with the White Sox in the two thousand and four.
• 32:37
  Speaker 4: Before the two thousand and five season, he agreed to
• 32:40
  Speaker 4: a deal with the White Sox. Another team came in
• 32:43
  Speaker 4: and said, hey, we'll give you more money. He said, oh, guys, sorry,
• 32:45
  Speaker 4: it's too late. I already agreed to terms. So I
• 32:47
  Speaker 4: give him a ton of credit for honoring his word.
• 32:49
  Speaker 4: And like I said, if I would have agreed and
• 32:52
  Speaker 4: said yes to my agent, yes, let's be a Dodger,
• 32:55
  Speaker 4: I would have not been able to say yes to
• 32:57
  Speaker 4: the White Sox because I would not have been able
• 32:59
  Speaker 4: to honestly looked myself and I screwed this team. And
• 33:03
  Speaker 4: luckily for me, I had not gotten to that point.
• 33:06
  Speaker 4: But it was. It was. We were fourth, we were
• 33:08
  Speaker 4: first and goal on the half yard line, and we
• 33:10
  Speaker 4: had Jalen Hurts ready to do the the you know,
• 33:12
  Speaker 4: the tush push four times to get in to win
• 33:14
  Speaker 4: the Super Bowl.
• 33:16
  Speaker 2: And you felt loyalty to the White Sox.
• 33:19
  Speaker 4: Yeah, but still, I mean, if I had already said yes,
• 33:21
  Speaker 4: I wouldn't have It wouldn't have mattered. It wouldn't have
• 33:23
  Speaker 4: mattered to me because I would have felt awful. Because
• 33:26
  Speaker 4: you know, if I say yes to something. I try
• 33:29
  Speaker 4: to keep my word.
• 33:30
  Speaker 2: To it right.
• 33:32
  Speaker 5: Well.
• 33:33
  Speaker 1: In conclusion, the Blue Jays and Braves might make a
• 33:36
  Speaker 1: deal or they might not. And if they don't, we
• 33:39
  Speaker 1: could hear more about this, but it was a great
• 33:41
  Speaker 1: point by the Hammer Territory crew and by Ken and
• 33:43
  Speaker 1: lastly on the Blue Jays front. Adding injury to injury,
• 33:48
  Speaker 1: Bladdy Junior was removed from last night's game with right
• 33:52
  Speaker 1: hamstring tightness.
• 33:53
  Speaker 2: He's been dealing with the back this season.
• 33:55
  Speaker 1: That's been the word on what's going on with him,
• 33:58
  Speaker 1: just sapping the power.
• 33:59
  Speaker 2: I guess yes. Ah.
• 34:01
  Speaker 1: He was so freaking good in the playoffs last year.
• 34:05
  Speaker 1: They could not figure out how to get him out
• 34:07
  Speaker 1: and he was the complete player good kind of like
• 34:09
  Speaker 1: how we see you guard an operas this year where
• 34:12
  Speaker 1: it's hit tool and its power tool at the elite level.
• 34:15
  Speaker 3: H he was.
• 34:16
  Speaker 4: He was that player. Remember a couple years ago when
• 34:18
  Speaker 4: he said that was just the opening act. I'm gonna
• 34:20
  Speaker 4: win the Oscar or whatever MVP. And he's had spurts
• 34:23
  Speaker 4: where you see it and then it just goes away
• 34:25
  Speaker 4: and then like this year, he has the year where
• 34:27
  Speaker 4: there's no power. I don't know, I don't know. Maybe
• 34:29
  Speaker 4: the hamstring was bothering him. I don't know, but it's
• 34:33
  Speaker 4: been a rough year for the Blue Jays.
• 34:35
  Speaker 5: Sorry.
• 34:36
  Speaker 1: Yeah, he gave him their money's worth though in October.
• 34:38
  Speaker 1: I mean that run for Toronto and October doesn't happen
• 34:41
  Speaker 1: without Bladdy Junior.
• 34:42
  Speaker 2: And I'm not saying it's.
• 34:43
  Speaker 1: An excuse for him to not play well the next
• 34:46
  Speaker 1: season and not have the pop and the pop at
• 34:48
  Speaker 1: home and all of that. But this is looking like
• 34:50
  Speaker 1: a last year for Toronto. The Classic World Series, hangover
• 34:54
  Speaker 1: situation going on, and they're what around ten games under
• 34:57
  Speaker 1: five hundred. This is an opportunity, though, Kratz, I think
• 35:00
  Speaker 1: you look at Toronto and say, Okay, there's three to
• 35:03
  Speaker 1: five pieces that they can get some significant, significant return on.
• 35:06
  Speaker 1: It's a team that needs to do a little farm
• 35:08
  Speaker 1: system replenishing.
• 35:10
  Speaker 2: And I don't think there's.
• 35:11
  Speaker 1: Anybody that doubts they can be a serious contender again
• 35:14
  Speaker 1: next year.
• 35:15
  Speaker 6: Because they're going to try to be a contender, just
• 35:17
  Speaker 6: like they tried to be a contender this offseason. And
• 35:19
  Speaker 6: maybe they falsely evaluated their roster based on the run
• 35:25
  Speaker 6: that they made last year and they didn't realize, Hey,
• 35:28
  Speaker 6: you know what, George probably isn't going to have the
• 35:31
  Speaker 6: same year. Now they have to replace that is I'm
• 35:36
  Speaker 6: completely forgetting Santander. Is he going to be able to
• 35:39
  Speaker 6: step into that role that they paid him two years
• 35:41
  Speaker 6: ago to be next year.
• 35:43
  Speaker 5: Because that's still in the contract. Is Barger going to
• 35:46
  Speaker 5: be there?
• 35:47
  Speaker 6: All those things they have to evaluate, and they have
• 35:49
  Speaker 6: to evaluate it here at this trade deadline, and I
• 35:52
  Speaker 6: think I think they have the chance to have a
• 35:55
  Speaker 6: lot of value that they can trade. But you Adviti's
• 35:58
  Speaker 6: back only hurt in Toronto? Is that why he has
• 36:01
  Speaker 6: zero home runs in Toronto? Which is a crazy stat.
• 36:05
  Speaker 6: But if it is, is the turf going to be
• 36:09
  Speaker 6: getting to Vladdie and start breaking his body down? All
• 36:12
  Speaker 6: those things need to be evaluated and taken into next
• 36:15
  Speaker 6: offseason because this this year's cooked, especially after the trade
• 36:18
  Speaker 6: deadline up.
• 36:18
  Speaker 5: I won't even watch a Jay's game.
• 36:21
  Speaker 1: Right, they might trade Gosman, they might trade they should
• 36:24
  Speaker 1: trade bar Show, Right, he's a free agent after this year.
• 36:27
  Speaker 1: Bardrie said the surgery the other day, there's going to
• 36:29
  Speaker 1: be a different looking roster heading into next season, but
• 36:32
  Speaker 1: there's still a good core there and it does start
• 36:34
  Speaker 1: with Flatty Junior. Flatty Junior looks MVPSH. It's a totally
• 36:37
  Speaker 1: different ball club.
• 36:39
  Speaker 2: All right, good?
• 36:42
  Speaker 5: Oh yeah, yeah.
• 36:43
  Speaker 1: I mean Cease is one of the best signings of
• 36:44
  Speaker 1: the off season. I don't know if you were on
• 36:46
  Speaker 1: the other day, but we were talking about oh yeah,
• 36:48
  Speaker 1: it was Monday, coming off the CG one twenty Pitch
• 36:52
  Speaker 1: Gem and Fenway Park. Dylan Ceese has been freaking awesome
• 36:56
  Speaker 1: this year and continues the durability train that is still
• 37:00
  Speaker 1: very underrated in our sport.
• 37:02
  Speaker 6: The thing I don't like about the Jay's not doing
• 37:04
  Speaker 6: well is this is when the rest of the league,
• 37:06
  Speaker 6: the analytically driven teams go see, see just making contact
• 37:12
  Speaker 6: doesn't really play. Yes, they caught a heater last year.
• 37:16
  Speaker 6: This doesn't play. This type of baseball doesn't play. You know,
• 37:19
  Speaker 6: it's an easy cherry pick of see the Brewers lose
• 37:23
  Speaker 6: in the NLCS, this type of this type of baseball
• 37:27
  Speaker 6: doesn't play. So that that's the thing that I like.
• 37:31
  Speaker 6: I bristle at when these types of seasons happen.
• 37:37
  Speaker 1: I mean, it's one of those criticism games. See not
• 37:41
  Speaker 1: enough power, Okay, well, oh willia domis thirty homers in
• 37:45
  Speaker 1: San Francisco.
• 37:45
  Speaker 2: Well, he's not good enough either. We don't like this, this,
• 37:47
  Speaker 2: and that, like, Okay, there.
• 37:49
  Speaker 1: Are a few flawless players, very few flawless players in
• 37:52
  Speaker 1: the sport.
• 37:53
  Speaker 2: Totally yeah, gotta love that.
• 37:55
  Speaker 5: I can't think of any Honestly.
• 37:57
  Speaker 2: No, everyone's perfect.
• 37:59
  Speaker 4: I mean if you no, I'm saying I can't think
• 38:01
  Speaker 4: of any any flawless players.
• 38:04
  Speaker 2: I was not chartistic.
• 38:06
  Speaker 5: Oh, I know.
• 38:10
  Speaker 6: He sucks in the he sucked the defense. Oh he
• 38:13
  Speaker 6: can't stay healthy. Show hey, show Hey might be flawless.
• 38:17
  Speaker 6: I'm just gonna say it, showy show injury.
• 38:20
  Speaker 2: That's the closest.
• 38:23
  Speaker 5: You can't.
• 38:24
  Speaker 2: Can't, dude, can't pitch.
• 38:26
  Speaker 5: I love that. I love that conversation.
• 38:28
  Speaker 6: We won't get into it, but the he's he may
• 38:30
  Speaker 6: not win the m v P because he's not pitching
• 38:32
  Speaker 6: right now.
• 38:33
  Speaker 5: I love it. I love that conversation.
• 38:35
  Speaker 2: Say that it's a it's an August combo.