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The Bolt Report | 6 January · The Bolt Report

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  Speaker 1: Goodness into the Bolt Report.
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  Speaker 2: Good evening and welcome to the Bolt Report.
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  Speaker 3: I'm Danikiti Giorgio coming up on the show tonight. What
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  Speaker 3: a con job, half a million dollars of your money
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  Speaker 3: wasted on pointless virtue signaling.
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  Speaker 2: I'll have my say on the welcome to country wrought shortly.
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  Speaker 3: We might have only started the new year, but Anthony
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  Speaker 3: Albneazi has well and truly kicked off his unofficial election campaign.
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  Speaker 3: National's leader David Little Proud will join me. Another vile
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  Speaker 3: anti Semitic attack rocks the streets of one of Australia's
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  Speaker 3: most Jewish suburbs, yet Labor is still weak to respond.
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  Speaker 3: More on that soon, and it's the battle of Trump's friends.
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  Speaker 3: Elon Musk takes a swipe at one of the president's
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  Speaker 3: key supporters. Nigel Farage will head to the UK for
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  Speaker 3: the latest. But first yesterday, as I was driving to
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  Speaker 3: Perth Airport to come back here to Sydney, I was
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  Speaker 3: taken aback by the plethora of virtue signaling on display.
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  Speaker 2: Firstly, it was Perth Airport's.
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  Speaker 3: Nungah welcome sign, which, according to the airport, gives visitors
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  Speaker 3: a unique welcome.
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  Speaker 2: And an introduction to Nungar culture.
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  Speaker 3: I then went to the gate where the sign on
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  Speaker 3: the boarding gates said, Gadigul country. Now you'd forgive me
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  Speaker 3: for being confused as to which city I was flying into.
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  Speaker 3: I mean Sydney would have been simple enough, but no,
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  Speaker 3: and it didn't stop there. Landing in Sydney. Quantus then
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  Speaker 3: welcomed me to country, the country.
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  Speaker 2: I live in.
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  Speaker 3: It's quite a handful of woken identity politics in the
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  Speaker 3: space of only a few hours.
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  Speaker 2: Now.
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  Speaker 3: In saying that it feels like the tide is turning,
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  Speaker 3: people seem to be realizing that the Welcome to country
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  Speaker 3: has gone above and beyond, so much so that Melbourne
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  Speaker 3: Storm has banned it at games. Elders in a North
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  Speaker 3: Queensland Shire are also voted to ban welcome to Country ceremonies,
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  Speaker 3: saying they.
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  Speaker 2: Have been abused.
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  Speaker 3: But the only people being abused by welcome to country
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  Speaker 3: is you and I. We are being conned by the activism.
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  Speaker 3: It's a con job, one big money making exercise that
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  Speaker 3: we are paying for. In fact, welcome to Country ceremonies
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  Speaker 3: at Australian government events have cost Ozzie tax payers more
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  Speaker 3: than four hundred and fifty thousand dollars in the past
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  Speaker 3: two years four hundred and fifty thousand dollars, and if
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  Speaker 3: you do the math, it's almost thirteen hundred dollars per
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  Speaker 3: ceremony for what it certainly doesn't improve the lives.
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  Speaker 2: Of Indigenous Australians.
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  Speaker 3: All it does is divide us by the color of
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  Speaker 3: our skin. It makes those who are not Aboriginal feel
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  Speaker 3: unwelcome in their own country.
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  Speaker 2: And the frustrating part.
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  Speaker 3: Is we feel obliged to just sit there and accept
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  Speaker 3: the welcome to country at every event, to be polite
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  Speaker 3: while we get pelted with this nonsense.
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  Speaker 4: And I'm here this evening to perform a ceremony, the
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  Speaker 4: ceremony of welcome to country. A welcome to country is
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  Speaker 4: not a welcome to Australia. Within Australia, we have many
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  Speaker 4: Aboriginal lands and we refer to our lands as country,
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  Speaker 4: so it's always a welcome to the lands you're gathered on.
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  Speaker 4: A Welcome to country is not a ceremony that we've
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  Speaker 4: invented to cater for white people. It's a ceremony we've
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  Speaker 4: been doing for two hundred and fifty thousand years plus BC,
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  Speaker 4: and the BC stands for before cook.
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  Speaker 3: Well, that certainly wasn't a welcome. In fact, it was
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  Speaker 3: an insult, especially when this Welcome to Country was not
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  Speaker 3: invented two hundred and fifty thousand plus years BC, but
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  Speaker 3: in nineteen seventy six by television presenter Ernie Dingo and
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  Speaker 3: musician Richard Wally, who performed what they claim was Australia's
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  Speaker 3: first contemporary welcome to Country for non Indigenous Australians, and
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  Speaker 3: since then it's stretched far and wide by activists across
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  Speaker 3: the country.
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  Speaker 2: Have a look at the breakdown of the costs.
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  Speaker 3: The Australian Institute of Sport racked up a bill of
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  Speaker 3: forty seven thousand dollars in two years for welcome to
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  Speaker 3: Country at events.
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  Speaker 2: The Department of Prime.
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  Speaker 3: Minister and Cabinet alone spent over forty one thousand dollars.
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  Speaker 3: The National Indigenous Australians Agency paid Aboriginal and Torres Strait
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  Speaker 3: Islander representatives more than sixty thousand dollars during the same period.
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  Speaker 3: Almost thirty one thousand was spent by the Industry, Science
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  Speaker 3: and Resource Department, and over thirty five thousand in taxpayer
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  Speaker 3: cash was handed out by the Federal Infrastructure Department, and
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  Speaker 3: it goes on. Now, imagine how that money could have
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  Speaker 3: been spent on improving the lives of Aboriginal peace people
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  Speaker 3: and actually on closing the gap. Yet we have a
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  Speaker 3: situation where counsels are the same. Brisbane rate payers were
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  Speaker 3: slugged one hundred and thirty five thousand dollars in the
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  Speaker 3: past two years alone. A new South Wales surf club
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  Speaker 3: wanting to hold carnivals and a fundraising swim on a
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  Speaker 3: public beach was charged two thousand dollars to pay for
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  Speaker 3: welcome to country ceremonies. So how did the closing the
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  Speaker 3: Gap and reconciliation movement become a cash cow?
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  Speaker 2: Well, it's simple.
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  Speaker 3: It's an exercise in self loathing from the left. They
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  Speaker 3: always need something to feel good about, don't they. And
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  Speaker 3: this is why the culture wars matter, because this next
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  Speaker 3: generation is being brainwashed into feeling guilty about the stolen
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  Speaker 3: generation or feeling bad about being proud of this country.
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  Speaker 3: Educational curriculum is being infiltrated. Kids are being welcome to
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  Speaker 3: country in the classrooms. They're being told to apologize to
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  Speaker 3: the stolen generation. And it's the same woke who year in,
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  Speaker 3: year out call for the date of Australia day to
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  Speaker 3: be changed. And you see, the progressive left has been
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  Speaker 3: slowly infiltrating and ultimately seeking to tear down the values
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  Speaker 3: and traditions of the Australia that once was. They want
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  Speaker 3: to destroy everything that British settlers brought to this country.
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  Speaker 3: And so here we are today with an almost five
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  Speaker 3: hundred thousand dollar bill to help the left feel better
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  Speaker 3: about themselves, and Labor continues to pedal the narrative. Its
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  Speaker 3: politics of racial division was on full display when Labor
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  Speaker 3: MP Anika Wells had to pause her press conference last
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  Speaker 3: week because she was not standing in front of the
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  Speaker 3: three flags of Australia.
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  Speaker 5: Sorry flags in front.
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  Speaker 1: That's thoughts even literally what I'm supposed to do? Well, look,
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  Speaker 1: it's you can't see the toy Street islander.
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  Speaker 6: Just bring it into the left of bit and bring
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  Speaker 6: the Australian when a time it closer to you.
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  Speaker 7: Thank you perfect yep? Okay, all right.
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  Speaker 3: Ready because uncomfortable every time you watch that clip and
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  Speaker 3: it's not even the Australian flag that she stands in
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  Speaker 3: front of, it's the Aboriginal. The goodwill of the Australian
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  Speaker 3: people only extend so far, but how many more of
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  Speaker 3: these things are we supposed to sit through? At almost
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  Speaker 3: half a million dollars, it's clear that this is a
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  Speaker 3: business venture which is achieving nothing now except for backlash.
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  Speaker 3: And remember sixty percent of us voted no to that division.
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  Speaker 3: And as the old saying goes, we are Australian. Jody
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  Speaker 3: by now is National's leader, David Little proud, David, good
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  Speaker 3: to see you, Thank you so much. I want to
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  Speaker 3: firstly get your reaction to the fact that five hundred
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  Speaker 3: thousand dollars or close to it has been sped on
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  Speaker 3: welcome to countries by government.
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  Speaker 2: How do you feel about that?
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  Speaker 7: Yeah, well, these Welcome to countries have become more about
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  Speaker 7: the money than the meaning and there's no need to
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  Speaker 7: spend that sort of money for departments to have their
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  Speaker 7: own welcome to country to get cultural training on how
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  Speaker 7: to do welcome to countries. That's obscene. Anthony Albernezey has
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  Speaker 7: already wasted four hundred and fifty million dollars of your
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  Speaker 7: hard earned money on a failed voice referendum. We're Australia
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  Speaker 7: has made it very clear on the very clear principle
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  Speaker 7: that not only do we want more bureaucracy, but we
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  Speaker 7: live by a simple tenan in this country. No matter
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  Speaker 7: your race, no madaia, religion, we're all equal, all twenty
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  Speaker 7: seven million of us, and we've all got the same
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  Speaker 7: representation and we all stand behind one flag. That one
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  Speaker 7: flag unites us as a nation. Now, we've got a
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  Speaker 7: history that you can't run away from, but we've got
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  Speaker 7: a history we should be proud of. Yes, there were
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  Speaker 7: some mistakes that we made, but we've been big enough
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  Speaker 7: to face up to them ourselves without someone else having
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  Speaker 7: to tell us, and to make sure that in this
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  Speaker 7: country no one is left behind. We have a generosity
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  Speaker 7: of spirit and there's a generosity of financial support. But
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  Speaker 7: when that financial support gets abused, then I think Australians
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  Speaker 7: do say enough is enough. I think there is a
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  Speaker 7: time for a mature conversation about the use of welcome
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  Speaker 7: to countries where they should be used, and they've been
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  Speaker 7: overused and they've lost their meaning, not only I think
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  Speaker 7: in the sense of it being a money making enterprise,
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  Speaker 7: but they've lost their meaning about what the traditional, real
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  Speaker 7: traditional owners actually want and believe in. So I think
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  Speaker 7: it is time for us to pay it back, and
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  Speaker 7: not for the Australian taxpayer have to fork out that
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  Speaker 7: sort of money when it could go in to practical
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  Speaker 7: measures the change and shift the dial from digitus Australians.
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  Speaker 3: And to actually closing the gap. And this is ridiculous.
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  Speaker 3: It's become a business model now and we're the ones
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  Speaker 3: who are paying for it.
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  Speaker 2: Now. Look, let's talk about the election.
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  Speaker 3: Listening to Anthony Arbenezi today, I felt like he's really
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  Speaker 3: running out of material. He fired the unofficial starting gun
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  Speaker 3: on the twenty twenty five election campaign, launching a three
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  Speaker 3: state blitz to start the new year. Is splashing cash
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  Speaker 3: in Queensland for a road project. He's then going to
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  Speaker 3: travel to the Northern Territory and to Wa. But this
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  Speaker 3: is when you know he has nothing to show for,
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  Speaker 3: when it's just an easy point to just attack the opposition.
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  Speaker 2: Have a listen.
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  Speaker 8: The two thousand and five twenty five election will be
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  Speaker 8: a clear choice labor building Australia's future or a coalition
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  Speaker 8: determined to return Australia backwards and costing more under Peter Dutton.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, David, as I said, I think running out of material.
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  Speaker 3: There is this the unofficial start to the campaign though
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  Speaker 3: in your view, yeah, what.
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  Speaker 7: It is And look the fact that he started so
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  Speaker 7: early says that things don't look as good as what
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  Speaker 7: he'd like them to be. The fact that he's come
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  Speaker 7: back early and he's spending a lot of your money.
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  Speaker 7: You don't solve the nation's problems by keep spending your
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  Speaker 7: money because ultimately it runs out and you can't keep
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  Speaker 7: paying tax. You have to fix the fundamentals. And to
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  Speaker 7: fix the fundamentals in this country, it's not more government,
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  Speaker 7: it's less government because the people who create jobs in
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  Speaker 7: this country are small business people, not governments. The only
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  Speaker 7: jobs we create you pay for. So you've got to
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  Speaker 7: fix the fundamentals. Proper industrial relations policy and a proper
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  Speaker 7: energy policy that will drive down inflation, drive down your
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  Speaker 7: interest bill. And that's about having a mixed, non all
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  Speaker 7: renewables approach. That's the common sense solution. The strong leadership
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  Speaker 7: that Peter Dunton and I will bring as a coalition
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  Speaker 7: if we're given the opportunity to lead, and I'll start
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  Speaker 7: the very first day. We'll get on with the job.
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  Speaker 7: We won't have this reckless spending and will fix the fundamentals.
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  Speaker 7: By pulling the policy leaders on energy and on immigration,
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  Speaker 7: we will determine who comes to this country, the skills
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  Speaker 7: they have, and where we want them to live. If
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  Speaker 7: we've got a housing crisis, we might start to think
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  Speaker 7: about bringing some sparky, some electrit, some plumbers, and some
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  Speaker 7: tilers rather than dog groomers and martial arts instructors and
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  Speaker 7: brothel managers. So we're just going to bring some common sense.
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  Speaker 7: And when you see today splashing seven billion dollars on
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  Speaker 7: the Bruce Highway, just put this into perspective how desperate
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  Speaker 7: he has become and how lack of vision he has had.
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  Speaker 7: Is that he ripped four hundred and eighty eight million
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  Speaker 7: dollars out of the Bruce Highway funding when he got
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  Speaker 7: into power. It was over nearly one hundred and nine
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  Speaker 7: million dollars that would have been spent on upgrading the
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  Speaker 7: Bruce Highway since he came to power. Now he's for
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  Speaker 7: some reason had an epiphany while over that period and
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  Speaker 7: last year, I sadly there's been over forty lives lost
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  Speaker 7: in the Bruce Highway that now he decides, in some
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  Speaker 7: moment of desperation, he's going to go and go back
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  Speaker 7: to an eighty twenty split that he took away from
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  Speaker 7: the funding of that. I mean, this guy is bereft
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  Speaker 7: of ideas. He's desperate and delusional, and unfortunately Australians have
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  Speaker 7: paid the.
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  Speaker 3: Bill absolutely running out of material David little Brown. Now, look,
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  Speaker 3: Australia's decade of lost living standards won't be recovered until
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  Speaker 3: at least twenty thirty. That's been revealed in a fresh
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  Speaker 3: analysis of the government's mid year economic and fiscal outlook. David,
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  Speaker 3: I'm sure that if you asked many Australians if their
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  Speaker 3: lives have improved in the last two and a half years,
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  Speaker 3: many would in fact say no. But this analysis suggests
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  Speaker 3: that there is more pain to come.
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  Speaker 9: Yeah.
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  Speaker 7: Well, look, I think Australians will ast themselves for the
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  Speaker 7: next election. Do they feel better off after two and
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  Speaker 7: a half years of Anthony elk and will it get
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  Speaker 7: better with another three years? And his own department, his
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  Speaker 7: own his own treasury is telling the Australian people it
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  Speaker 7: won't get better in the next three years under Anthony Albinezi.
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  Speaker 7: Your living standards have been lost and it's not going
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  Speaker 7: to get better for until two thy and thirty. And
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  Speaker 7: this is because he hasn't actually fixed the fundamentals. He's
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  Speaker 7: worked on ideology, not the practical reality. Of what drives
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  Speaker 7: an economy. Our job as a federal government is to
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  Speaker 7: get out of people's lives and get out of business
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  Speaker 7: live as quickly as it can. And that's proper industrial
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  Speaker 7: relations policy, proper energy policy. Short term, a lot more gas.
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  Speaker 7: We've got to get gas into the system quickly. They'll
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  Speaker 7: bring your bills down in the here and now, but
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  Speaker 7: long term we've got to bring nuclear energy into the
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  Speaker 7: grid as well, and then basically have a sensible migration policy.
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  Speaker 7: And this all is something you could be done without
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  Speaker 7: having to keep giving some He spent six and a
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  Speaker 7: half billion dollars in subsidies in trying to live up
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  Speaker 7: to the promise that he made you before the last
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  Speaker 7: selection of a two hundred and seventy five dollar reduction
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  Speaker 7: in your energy bill. I've gone up by over seven
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  Speaker 7: hundred dollars. So the ideology of labor is being felt.
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  Speaker 7: We're not there yet. This is going to be a
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  Speaker 7: tough campaign, but all Peter Dutton and I are going
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  Speaker 7: to do is get back to basics. We can get
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  Speaker 7: this country back on track with just some pure common
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  Speaker 7: sense and some policies and pulling policy leavers rather than
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  Speaker 7: just spending billions and billions of your heart earned money.
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  Speaker 2: Absolutely.
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  Speaker 3: Well, Look, it's going to be a fascinating campaign. As
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  Speaker 3: I said, it feels like it's the campaign already, but
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  Speaker 3: we haven't inspired the starting gun just yet.
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  Speaker 2: David Little Proud, good to see you.
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  Speaker 3: Thank you very much for joining me on the show
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  Speaker 3: this evening. Well, I want to show you a video
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  Speaker 3: which really shows the impact of anti Semitism in this country.
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  Speaker 3: This is Yvonne Strasser, a Jewish woman, reacting to another
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  Speaker 3: vile act of due hatred in Sydney overnight.
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  Speaker 2: My father was killed.
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  Speaker 7: In the holicles.
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  Speaker 10: This is how it starts.
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  Speaker 11: Who doesn't killed with the polpless motherwords, I'm saying it's
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  Speaker 11: mother wolves.
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  Speaker 9: What read through your mind when you saw this this morning?
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  Speaker 12: Well, I heard it was racial slurst, but I didn't
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  Speaker 12: I thought it would be anti Israel.
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  Speaker 1: Did think it be antist.
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  Speaker 3: And it's only the start of the year and already
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  Speaker 3: we are at crisis point and the Labor government is
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  Speaker 3: as unimpressive and weak as ever.
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  Speaker 2: That's why it's so scary.
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  Speaker 3: The Prime Minister, who was once praised by Hamas over
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  Speaker 3: his stance on the war, can't quite grasp the fact
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  Speaker 3: his actions are encouraging anti Semitic attacks in this country.
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  Speaker 3: In the latest incident, a car was graffitied overnight with
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  Speaker 3: the slogan f the Jews. It happened in Sydney's Eastern Suburbs,
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  Speaker 3: which has a large Jewish population. Now, of course this
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  Speaker 3: adds to a string of hate, violence and intimidation directed
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  Speaker 3: at Jewish Australians since October seven, and every day it
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  Speaker 3: gets worse.
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  Speaker 2: Yet here was albow this morning.
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  Speaker 8: There is no tolerance for anti Semitism in Australia from
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  Speaker 8: my government, nor should there be tolerance from anyone else.
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  Speaker 8: Any Semitism is a scourge and any event such as
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  Speaker 8: this targeting people because of who they are, is not
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  Speaker 8: the Australian values that I hold dear and the Australian
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  Speaker 8: values that are held dear by overwhelmingly Australians.
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  Speaker 3: Times do we have to hear that there is no
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  Speaker 3: tolerance for anti Semitism in Australia because the tolerance has
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  Speaker 3: warm thin. It wore thin a while ago. It's been
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  Speaker 3: fifteen months. What has he actually done to stamp out
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  Speaker 3: anti Semitism that he says will not be tolerated. Well,
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  Speaker 3: the answer is nothing. It's It's the same old line
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  Speaker 3: from a pre rehearsed script, delivered with zero conviction and
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  Speaker 3: zero energy. It's the same old elbow in twenty and
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  Speaker 3: twenty five. Joining me now is Victorian Libertarian Party and
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  Speaker 3: P David Limbrick and The Australians Associate editor Graham Lloyd.
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  Speaker 3: Hi to both of you. Thank you so much for
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  Speaker 3: joining me. Graham, how many more times can we hear
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  Speaker 3: these same lines from the Prime Minister before he actually
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  Speaker 3: does something?
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  Speaker 13: It's good evening. It's really that thing is that you
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  Speaker 13: have to smile with your eyes, that you have to
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  Speaker 13: mean what you say. And the problem the Prime Minister
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  Speaker 13: now finds himself in he's really going through the motions
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  Speaker 13: in saying the right things. He's in a bind because
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  Speaker 13: he's relying on law enforcement and other things to take
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  Speaker 13: up the challenge. But it's fair to say that he
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  Speaker 13: hasn't really led with the figure that's going to get
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  Speaker 13: that to come about. The opportunity was missed at the beginning,
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  Speaker 13: and the more this is allowed to get out of
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  Speaker 13: the bag, the harder it's going to be to put
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  Speaker 13: back in.
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  Speaker 3: I completely agree, but it's gone too far now. I mean,
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  Speaker 3: it's been fifteen months of saying we don't tolerate it,
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  Speaker 3: we don't tolerate it, and we are literally at a
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  Speaker 3: point in this country where it is being tolerated. And
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  Speaker 3: this is the scariest part of it all. In fact,
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  Speaker 3: it's so dangerous, David, I played that video of a
• 18:26
  Speaker 3: Jewish woman in tears over this latest anti Semitic attack
• 18:29
  Speaker 3: in Sydney. Are we at a point now where it's
• 18:32
  Speaker 3: fair to say that Jews are no longer safe in
• 18:34
  Speaker 3: this country?
• 18:38
  Speaker 5: Look, I'd say, firstly, it breaks my heart to see
• 18:41
  Speaker 5: Australians being attacked like this because of their religious beliefs.
• 18:47
  Speaker 5: I know that there's many Jewish people that do not
• 18:49
  Speaker 5: feel safe in Australia at the moment, and my heart
• 18:51
  Speaker 5: goes out to them. But like our Constitution was set
• 18:55
  Speaker 5: up with the idea in Section one sixteen that we
• 18:59
  Speaker 5: should be freedom of and from religion, and you know,
• 19:04
  Speaker 5: people shouldn't be attacked because of their religious beliefs. But
• 19:07
  Speaker 5: I would say this also, we've got to be very
• 19:10
  Speaker 5: careful about knee jerk responses by government that might make
• 19:15
  Speaker 5: the problem worse. In Victoria, we've got a situation where
• 19:18
  Speaker 5: the Victorian government is trying to implement these you know
• 19:22
  Speaker 5: what they call social cohesion laws. My concern is that
• 19:25
  Speaker 5: despite their good intentions, these type of laws will actually
• 19:30
  Speaker 5: backfire and make the problem worse. We need to rely
• 19:33
  Speaker 5: on the foundations of Western liberalism, which is freedom of
• 19:39
  Speaker 5: and from religion. That's what we need to rely on,
• 19:42
  Speaker 5: and not bring in more laws that will take away
• 19:45
  Speaker 5: the freedoms of Australians in the process. We need to
• 19:48
  Speaker 5: avoid that sort of response.
• 19:50
  Speaker 3: I do agree in that sense that we need to
• 19:52
  Speaker 3: avoid the over governing of it. But the problem is
• 19:56
  Speaker 3: is in this country we've gone so far now over
• 19:59
  Speaker 3: the la last fifteen months that we have a serious
• 20:02
  Speaker 3: scourge of anti Semitism.
• 20:04
  Speaker 2: And I do agree when it comes to freedom.
• 20:05
  Speaker 3: Of speech, but when people are feeling unsafe, I think.
• 20:10
  Speaker 2: That completely goes out the window.
• 20:11
  Speaker 3: But I do understand what you're saying here, and similar
• 20:15
  Speaker 3: to this, Muslim Australians in Australia say that they are
• 20:18
  Speaker 3: increasingly vigilant of radicalization since the rise and fall of
• 20:22
  Speaker 3: Islamic State.
• 20:23
  Speaker 2: Lebanese leader Jamal.
• 20:24
  Speaker 3: Riefi's comments come after former Home Affairs Chief Mike Pizzulo
• 20:28
  Speaker 3: sounded the alarm over of a revitalized isis that sought
• 20:31
  Speaker 3: to exploit anger over the war in Gaza from Muslim communities. Graham,
• 20:35
  Speaker 3: The reality is is that Muslim leaders have a very
• 20:38
  Speaker 3: big part to play, a big role to play in
• 20:40
  Speaker 3: this country in condemning that, but also in condemning anti Semitism.
• 20:49
  Speaker 13: Yes, they do. I think this is one of the
• 20:51
  Speaker 13: big lessons that was learned from the previous conflicts in
• 20:55
  Speaker 13: the Middle East that we really need religious leaders to
• 20:59
  Speaker 13: come out and speak on behalf of their religion, but
• 21:02
  Speaker 13: also the community of religious leaders across the board. It's
• 21:08
  Speaker 13: something that has been exercised very well in the past,
• 21:13
  Speaker 13: but we need now to have much greater effort in
• 21:16
  Speaker 13: this area, particularly following the fall in Syria and the
• 21:22
  Speaker 13: other problems in the Middle East. Now is the time
• 21:25
  Speaker 13: where we need a united stand for humanity and that's
• 21:29
  Speaker 13: something that all religious leaders can certainly agree and advocate for.
• 21:35
  Speaker 3: Yeah, and David, what role do you think the Muslim
• 21:37
  Speaker 3: leaders can play in this?
• 21:42
  Speaker 5: I think all religious leaders need to think, you know,
• 21:45
  Speaker 5: if they're in Australia, we need to think about what
• 21:48
  Speaker 5: is in Australia's best interests. I think that there's many
• 21:51
  Speaker 5: Australians that are very tolerant of all different religions, but
• 21:55
  Speaker 5: they're sick and tired of people bringing in conflicts from
• 21:58
  Speaker 5: foreign lands into this country and trying to stir up
• 22:02
  Speaker 5: discontent and hatred within Australia. These conflicts in many ways
• 22:08
  Speaker 5: have nothing to do with Australia and we need to
• 22:11
  Speaker 5: look at you know, focus on Australia first, Focus on
• 22:15
  Speaker 5: what makes us great in Australia, rather than bringing in
• 22:19
  Speaker 5: these conflicts from foreign lands into Australia. I think that
• 22:22
  Speaker 5: that is very destructive. The idea that Australia can solve
• 22:26
  Speaker 5: problems in the Middle.
• 22:27
  Speaker 2: East is fanciful.
• 22:29
  Speaker 5: We need to focus on what's important here first.
• 22:32
  Speaker 3: Yeah, absolutely, we should be putting Australia first. Now, look,
• 22:35
  Speaker 3: the ghosts of the rud Gillard Rud era are really
• 22:38
  Speaker 3: circling this Labor government. The Nations Offshore Asylum Processing Center
• 22:42
  Speaker 3: in Nauru now holds more than one hundred asylum seekers
• 22:45
  Speaker 3: who reached Australia by boat, the biggest surge in detaining
• 22:49
  Speaker 3: numbers on the Pacific Island since the final months of
• 22:52
  Speaker 3: the Gillard rud government. Graham, why has Labor really never
• 22:56
  Speaker 3: been able to get a handle on border security?
• 23:00
  Speaker 13: Well, I think it's true to say that I geologically
• 23:04
  Speaker 13: the large sections of the Labor Party are not really
• 23:08
  Speaker 13: that committed to the sort of border protection that's required
• 23:12
  Speaker 13: to get the sort of results that were achieved under
• 23:16
  Speaker 13: former coalition governments. I think there is a grudging recognition
• 23:20
  Speaker 13: that border security is a big issue and if it
• 23:23
  Speaker 13: gets out of hand, it's something that can potentially swallow
• 23:27
  Speaker 13: the government. We're not at that stage, but we're certainly
• 23:31
  Speaker 13: seeing the number of illegal attempts at arrival increase. The
• 23:36
  Speaker 13: detention centers are filling up again, and we need to
• 23:40
  Speaker 13: make it absolutely clear that people smugglers can't get back
• 23:45
  Speaker 13: in the business.
• 23:46
  Speaker 3: No, we cannot possibly go back to those Guillard ride years,
• 23:50
  Speaker 3: can we? David, do you think that people smugglers are
• 23:52
  Speaker 3: really testing the resolve of labor because it feels like
• 23:56
  Speaker 3: deja vu.
• 24:00
  Speaker 5: Look, I think we need to get some perspective here.
• 24:02
  Speaker 5: We're talking about one hundred people. I think if you
• 24:05
  Speaker 5: looked at the United States or Europe and the number
• 24:08
  Speaker 5: of like millions of illegal immigrants that they're having in
• 24:11
  Speaker 5: those countries, in those areas, that one hundred would be
• 24:15
  Speaker 5: pretty manageable. I think that Australia has done a very
• 24:18
  Speaker 5: good job of undermining incentives of people smugglers, and we
• 24:23
  Speaker 5: need to remain vigilant in the future. At the moment,
• 24:26
  Speaker 5: it's very small numbers and I hope that it remains
• 24:29
  Speaker 5: that way.
• 24:30
  Speaker 3: I agree, but I do think that there has been
• 24:32
  Speaker 3: more well that the statistics shower. There has been more
• 24:35
  Speaker 3: asylum seekers reaching the mainland than what we have seen
• 24:38
  Speaker 3: under the previous coalition government, and I think that that
• 24:41
  Speaker 3: stands for something, because the people smugglers are certainly testing
• 24:44
  Speaker 3: the result of labor. But we're right, it is one hundred,
• 24:47
  Speaker 3: but still the ghosts of circling. David Limbrick, Graham Lloyd.
• 24:51
  Speaker 3: Good to have you both on. Thank you very much
• 24:53
  Speaker 3: for joining me on the show this evening. We'll stay
• 24:55
  Speaker 3: with us after the break. Tennis superstar Novak Djokovic says
• 24:58
  Speaker 3: he suffers from trauma every time he returns to Melbourne
• 25:02
  Speaker 3: after his COVID fiasco. Sky News host Liz Storer has
• 25:05
  Speaker 3: a lot of things to say about this.
• 25:07
  Speaker 2: That's next.
• 25:11
  Speaker 3: Welcome back to the program. Joining me now is Sky
• 25:13
  Speaker 3: News's host Liz Stora. Liz, good to see you, Thanks
• 25:16
  Speaker 3: so much. Here we go again. Now, look, I want
• 25:20
  Speaker 3: to start our chat. I spoke earlier about the conjob
• 25:23
  Speaker 3: that is welcome to Country ceremonies. We've now find out
• 25:25
  Speaker 3: that almost five hundred thousand dollars has been spent by
• 25:28
  Speaker 3: government departments in the last two years.
• 25:31
  Speaker 6: We are funding this.
• 25:33
  Speaker 2: This is a problem. You and I are paying for it.
• 25:35
  Speaker 2: We are home, We're all paying for this. It's a
• 25:37
  Speaker 2: con job, it's a business transaction.
• 25:39
  Speaker 6: Well, what this is now is a class war in Denika,
• 25:42
  Speaker 6: like out and out, just a class war because, especially
• 25:46
  Speaker 6: after the referendum last year, we all know what the.
• 25:49
  Speaker 2: Vast majority of Australians think about this.
• 25:52
  Speaker 6: We voted no to all this divisive nonsense that actually
• 25:56
  Speaker 6: means nothing and doesn't help anyone get ahead in life.
• 25:59
  Speaker 6: So what we have now are the elites, the leaders,
• 26:02
  Speaker 6: whatever you want to call them, whether it's in the
• 26:04
  Speaker 6: corporate world, the sporting bodies, or our own governments, whether
• 26:09
  Speaker 6: it's local, state or federal, forcing this down our throats regardless.
• 26:15
  Speaker 2: So this is out and out a class war.
• 26:17
  Speaker 6: And what I have been doing, and I encourage anybody
• 26:20
  Speaker 6: else to join me, is letting out a small boom because,
• 26:24
  Speaker 6: like you, I flew to Perth and I had to stop.
• 26:27
  Speaker 2: Over in Melbourne.
• 26:28
  Speaker 6: So I had several different landings across the course of
• 26:32
  Speaker 6: my holidays and I just let out an audible groan
• 26:36
  Speaker 6: or a small little boo, nothing too.
• 26:38
  Speaker 2: You know, you didn't get a megaphone and announce them.
• 26:40
  Speaker 6: No no, But it's like a horror boom, and all
• 26:44
  Speaker 6: I get are smiles. Because what I want people to
• 26:48
  Speaker 6: start doing now is do something about it. Because we
• 26:52
  Speaker 6: are the majority here, these elites. We out number them,
• 26:55
  Speaker 6: hundreds of thousands to one. We said no, they ignored us.
• 27:01
  Speaker 6: And so if you're not the audible kind of person,
• 27:03
  Speaker 6: send an email to the person who organized the event
• 27:06
  Speaker 6: that you were attended, whatever it is, take some action,
• 27:10
  Speaker 6: because until these guys get enough pushback, as per the
• 27:14
  Speaker 6: footy which you showed a clip earlier in the show,
• 27:17
  Speaker 6: people were just audibly doing saying we are not taking
• 27:21
  Speaker 6: this anymore. We need to make it so people just
• 27:24
  Speaker 6: drop this off their agendas for their meetings, their sporting
• 27:28
  Speaker 6: arrangements because they know it's wildly unpopular. And it's actually
• 27:32
  Speaker 6: become embarrassing because the people have been so audible about
• 27:35
  Speaker 6: saying we don't like this, we don't want this. You
• 27:38
  Speaker 6: guys are virtue signaling we're not on board and it's
• 27:41
  Speaker 6: an entire nonsense.
• 27:43
  Speaker 3: I completely agree, and I almost feel like the tide
• 27:45
  Speaker 3: is turning. You've got Melbourne storm, You've got elders up
• 27:48
  Speaker 3: in North Queensland saying it's now being abused. If they're
• 27:52
  Speaker 3: saying it, then the rest of us should be listing.
• 27:54
  Speaker 3: So no, I completely agree with you. But look, let's
• 27:57
  Speaker 3: move on. Because Australian Open champion Novak Job has revealed
• 28:00
  Speaker 3: he suffers traumatic experiences whenever he returns to Melbourne after
• 28:05
  Speaker 3: being detained by Australian Border Force officers and eventually deported.
• 28:09
  Speaker 3: You remember over his refusal to reveal his COVID vaccine
• 28:12
  Speaker 3: status three years ago. Now he says he has mixed
• 28:15
  Speaker 3: feelings about the Victorian capital, which of course became the
• 28:19
  Speaker 3: lockdown capital of the world after the way he was
• 28:21
  Speaker 3: treated back in twenty twenty two.
• 28:24
  Speaker 2: Liz, I don't blame him.
• 28:25
  Speaker 3: He went through an absolute saga and half with the
• 28:28
  Speaker 3: Victorian government.
• 28:29
  Speaker 6: And I love that he's still raising this because lest
• 28:32
  Speaker 6: we forget, this man did nothing wrong. He had a visa,
• 28:36
  Speaker 6: he was granted a visa, he had as many as
• 28:38
  Speaker 6: three sporting bodies. Say yes, this man can come.
• 28:42
  Speaker 2: They were all fully aware that he was unvaccinated.
• 28:45
  Speaker 6: At the time. He put up his hand and said, look,
• 28:48
  Speaker 6: I'm more than happy to be tested.
• 28:49
  Speaker 2: On the hour.
• 28:50
  Speaker 6: If that's going to give you peace of mind. I
• 28:53
  Speaker 6: don't mind that whatsoever. And this guy was treated like
• 28:57
  Speaker 6: a criminal on Australian soil after he had done absolutely
• 29:01
  Speaker 6: nothing wrong, and our government's excuse for doing so. I'm
• 29:04
  Speaker 6: paraphrasing here, but I remember watching online the court case
• 29:08
  Speaker 6: that ensued as these guys in whigs were battling this out,
• 29:13
  Speaker 6: and I was hoping against hope that we'd see sanity prevail.
• 29:16
  Speaker 6: Our government was worried that because this man was a
• 29:20
  Speaker 6: champion of those of us who refused to be denied
• 29:24
  Speaker 6: bodily autonomy during that terrible period in our nation's history,
• 29:29
  Speaker 6: that he would inspire others to do the same. That's
• 29:31
  Speaker 6: what it came down to. They were the thought police
• 29:34
  Speaker 6: and they wanted to kick him out of the country.
• 29:36
  Speaker 6: They successfully did so, which I think bit them in
• 29:40
  Speaker 6: the backside because more people were inspired by that seeing
• 29:44
  Speaker 6: this man persecuted for doing nothing more than saying, hey,
• 29:48
  Speaker 6: I'm one of the most elite athletes in the world.
• 29:52
  Speaker 6: I'm not taking this thing for my own reasons. He
• 29:55
  Speaker 6: wasn't getting on a pedestal and encouraging others to.
• 29:58
  Speaker 2: Do the same.
• 29:59
  Speaker 6: He was simply taking a stand for himself. They couldn't
• 30:03
  Speaker 6: stomach it. No, and so no won day. He's like, Man,
• 30:06
  Speaker 6: I get traumatic flashbacks because I was kicked out of
• 30:09
  Speaker 6: the country just because the government didn't like what I
• 30:12
  Speaker 6: chose to do with my own body.
• 30:14
  Speaker 2: No, he was treated like a criminal.
• 30:15
  Speaker 3: You're right, and you know, all these years later, nobody
• 30:17
  Speaker 3: bats an eyelid anymore of your vaccination status.
• 30:20
  Speaker 6: Oh yeah, in fact is a thing the following The
• 30:23
  Speaker 6: following year, the Australian Open allowed COVID positive players to play.
• 30:28
  Speaker 2: There you go.
• 30:29
  Speaker 6: They just said, look, if you're feeling well enough, it
• 30:31
  Speaker 6: doesn't matter that you've tested positive, go for.
• 30:34
  Speaker 1: It your cause.
• 30:36
  Speaker 3: Such double standards, it's just it's absolutely ridiculous.
• 30:38
  Speaker 2: Now.
• 30:39
  Speaker 3: Look, A Politzer Prize winning cartoonist has resigned from The
• 30:41
  Speaker 3: Washington Post after the newspaper refused to publish her satirical
• 30:45
  Speaker 3: sketch and Telannay's cartoon depicted the American Publications billionaire owner
• 30:51
  Speaker 3: Jeff Bezos kneeling before Donald Trump, offering the President elect
• 30:55
  Speaker 3: a bag of cash, Liz, I don't like this. I
• 31:00
  Speaker 3: am an advocate for freedom of the press. This goes,
• 31:03
  Speaker 3: in my opinion, completely against it.
• 31:06
  Speaker 6: Well, I don't believe in freedom of the press. I
• 31:08
  Speaker 6: think it's a great idea. But the truth of the
• 31:11
  Speaker 6: matter is every single media outlet is owned and operated
• 31:15
  Speaker 6: by people who have biases, and who wouldn't you and
• 31:19
  Speaker 6: I included, of course, if we had that kind of say,
• 31:22
  Speaker 6: we'd be like, well, we're not platforming certain things that
• 31:25
  Speaker 6: we want highlighted, and we're going to highlight things that
• 31:28
  Speaker 6: we do want highlighted. And in many ways it still
• 31:31
  Speaker 6: works because if you're a lefty you read The Guardian
• 31:33
  Speaker 6: and you watch that absolutely, and if you're of my persuasion,
• 31:37
  Speaker 6: you'll probably watch Sky News and read the Australians. So
• 31:40
  Speaker 6: horses for causes, it all comes out in the wash.
• 31:42
  Speaker 6: But I love it when stories like this make it
• 31:45
  Speaker 6: into the media because every story that you hear of,
• 31:49
  Speaker 6: whether it's a cartoonist, we know that the same was
• 31:52
  Speaker 6: true for our now dearly departed Michael Lunig lost his
• 31:56
  Speaker 6: job because he had to make these really high hitting
• 32:00
  Speaker 6: and truthful like this cartoon, very truthful.
• 32:04
  Speaker 2: Bezos and others have.
• 32:05
  Speaker 6: Donated millions of dollars to Trump and supported him in
• 32:09
  Speaker 6: other ways. So this was a depiction simply of the
• 32:13
  Speaker 6: absolute truth who these guys are throwing.
• 32:15
  Speaker 2: Their weight behind.
• 32:17
  Speaker 6: But depending on the outlet, they say no, we're not
• 32:20
  Speaker 6: allowing this. And I love it when this makes it
• 32:23
  Speaker 6: into the public sphere because people need to be reminded. Yeah, truly,
• 32:28
  Speaker 6: there's no supreme freedom of the press.
• 32:32
  Speaker 2: Every single one of.
• 32:33
  Speaker 6: Us is playing a game to some extent, and people
• 32:37
  Speaker 6: just follow the ones that they like.
• 32:40
  Speaker 3: I just don't agree with her losing your job. I mean,
• 32:41
  Speaker 3: I just think it's ridiculous. That's what I don't agree with.
• 32:44
  Speaker 2: And God on her for going public. But oh, you
• 32:46
  Speaker 2: have to speak up about these things now.
• 32:49
  Speaker 3: Look, Lisa Wilkinson's contract with Channel ten has come to
• 32:51
  Speaker 3: an end after two years off air on a one
• 32:54
  Speaker 3: point seven million dollar contract the broadcaster. It's nice some
• 32:57
  Speaker 3: of that buff has officially called time on the network,
• 33:01
  Speaker 3: saying my time at Channel tens officially drawn to a close.
• 33:03
  Speaker 3: And yes, the last couple of years have been pretty challenging,
• 33:06
  Speaker 3: but there were still plenty of good times.
• 33:07
  Speaker 2: Here's to twenty twenty five and new beginnings. I mean
• 33:11
  Speaker 2: she's got one point seven oh all the way away exactly.
• 33:15
  Speaker 2: I mean, look, can't to feel sorry for that. You
• 33:18
  Speaker 2: can't feel sorry for it. It had to come to
• 33:20
  Speaker 2: an end. It's been a messy few years, yes, and.
• 33:22
  Speaker 6: I remember when all of that first unfolded. I was
• 33:25
  Speaker 6: just thinking a journal of her years and experience had
• 33:30
  Speaker 6: to know now unfairly, Channel ten definitely threw her under
• 33:34
  Speaker 6: the bus, saying, oh, it was all on her, and
• 33:35
  Speaker 6: it was like, hang on a minute, you guys, you
• 33:38
  Speaker 6: can't say that you were completely unaware of what.
• 33:40
  Speaker 2: Was going on.
• 33:41
  Speaker 6: But at the end of the day, this mess with
• 33:44
  Speaker 6: a serious criminal trial that graced our headlines for far.
• 33:47
  Speaker 6: I can't remember a time before Bruce Lemon Brittany Higgins
• 33:52
  Speaker 6: was in the headline go back to a simpler time
• 33:54
  Speaker 6: on a weekly basis, And obviously that drew it out
• 33:59
  Speaker 6: massively and caused huge problems. We know that the criminal
• 34:02
  Speaker 6: trial then came to a grinding hole. We'll never know
• 34:04
  Speaker 6: how much what Lisa Wilkinson's did, the part that she
• 34:08
  Speaker 6: played in that, you can't you can't quantify it, but
• 34:13
  Speaker 6: there had to be serious consequences, so obvious Lee Channel
• 34:16
  Speaker 6: ten seemingly made her a bit of a scapegoat here,
• 34:20
  Speaker 6: but heck, one point seven million for twiddling for two
• 34:23
  Speaker 6: years five. I think she'll land on you.
• 34:26
  Speaker 3: She'll be absolutely fine. Liszta, good to see you. Thank
• 34:28
  Speaker 3: you so much for joining me on the show this evening.
• 34:31
  Speaker 3: We'll stay with us after the break. It's the Battle
• 34:33
  Speaker 3: of Trump's Friends. Elon Musk takes a swipe at one
• 34:36
  Speaker 3: of the president's key supporters, Nigel Farage.
• 34:39
  Speaker 2: Well head to the UK for the latest after this.
• 34:44
  Speaker 4: Well.
• 34:44
  Speaker 3: Ice Hockey Australia has scrapped holding World Championship matches in
• 34:48
  Speaker 3: Melbourne amid fears Israel's presence would make it too dangerous
• 34:52
  Speaker 3: for players and fans.
• 34:53
  Speaker 2: The event was originally scheduled for April and.
• 34:56
  Speaker 3: May and was expected to be a landmark occasion for
• 34:59
  Speaker 3: Australians s thoughts, marking the first time since twenty eleven
• 35:02
  Speaker 3: this country would host the division championships. Joining me now
• 35:05
  Speaker 3: is former Speaker of the House Bromwin Bishop and former
• 35:08
  Speaker 3: City of Sydney Labor councilor Linda Scott. Hi to both
• 35:11
  Speaker 3: of you, thank you so much for joining me on
• 35:13
  Speaker 3: the show this evening. Browen is Sport now capitulating why
• 35:17
  Speaker 3: should sport be dictating who should be allowed into this
• 35:20
  Speaker 3: country and who shouldn't.
• 35:21
  Speaker 11: Well, they shouldn't, But the problem remained exactly the same.
• 35:25
  Speaker 11: You've got weak leadership from Albanesi on the anti Semitism issue,
• 35:29
  Speaker 11: and it filters all the way down. And it's in
• 35:32
  Speaker 11: Victoria where you've got a weak labor government and you've
• 35:36
  Speaker 11: got a police force that was able to arrest her
• 35:38
  Speaker 11: women and the pajamas who tweeted during COVID, but unable
• 35:43
  Speaker 11: to say, well, years, go ahead with your championship in Melbourne,
• 35:48
  Speaker 11: we'll look after it. So it comes back to that
• 35:51
  Speaker 11: question of leadership all the time. And I just listened
• 35:55
  Speaker 11: to urban Esy today making a statement about the anti
• 35:59
  Speaker 11: Semitic act in the Eastern suburbs today of that painting
• 36:03
  Speaker 11: on the side of the car, and honestly, the words
• 36:06
  Speaker 11: are so.
• 36:07
  Speaker 2: Medimouth they mean nothing.
• 36:08
  Speaker 11: So why are we surprised that an institution like a
• 36:12
  Speaker 11: nice hockey organization would say when you can't come here
• 36:16
  Speaker 11: because the Israelis are coming. And to say it's intolerable
• 36:21
  Speaker 11: is to tolerate the intolerable. It's just it is just
• 36:26
  Speaker 11: words which have no meaning and no backup.
• 36:28
  Speaker 3: But we've heard the same script over and over every
• 36:31
  Speaker 3: time we have an anti Semitic attack in this country,
• 36:34
  Speaker 3: and there have been multiple, it's the same script.
• 36:36
  Speaker 2: We won't tolerate it, and that's the problem.
• 36:38
  Speaker 11: Unacceptable.
• 36:39
  Speaker 2: What meaning has that got left? Nothing?
• 36:41
  Speaker 3: There's just no meaning, Linda, you know what message are
• 36:45
  Speaker 3: we sending to Jewish Australians when we won't even allow
• 36:49
  Speaker 3: Israel to compete in a sporting championship in this country.
• 36:53
  Speaker 9: Well, look, there's a lenked email that it seems that
• 36:56
  Speaker 9: sadly James Patterson has politicized and done a news story
• 37:01
  Speaker 9: about the organization itself, because let's not forget, this is
• 37:05
  Speaker 9: a private event, it's not a government event. Has been
• 37:08
  Speaker 9: its seems canceled from the email. The Victorian Police have
• 37:12
  Speaker 9: come out today and said that they didn't give any
• 37:14
  Speaker 9: advice to cancel the event. So I think it still
• 37:17
  Speaker 9: is a little bit unclear at what is actually going
• 37:20
  Speaker 9: on here, and I think it is disappointing to see
• 37:23
  Speaker 9: the opposition and James Patterson yet again come out and
• 37:26
  Speaker 9: try and sort of politicize what may well be a
• 37:29
  Speaker 9: sort of police and security event.
• 37:31
  Speaker 2: I think that is incredibly.
• 37:33
  Speaker 3: Victoria Police said that they weren't aware of any threats.
• 37:36
  Speaker 3: But this looks like it has come from the sporting
• 37:39
  Speaker 3: division itself. Why should sport be getting involved in these matters?
• 37:44
  Speaker 9: Well, look, I mean there's lots of hockey events going on.
• 37:46
  Speaker 9: A friend of mine's playing in Ballarat next week at
• 37:49
  Speaker 9: the National Underwater Hockey National Championships, so you know, I
• 37:53
  Speaker 9: think these are all really important sporting events. But mostly,
• 37:57
  Speaker 9: like every sporting club in Australia, run by well meaning,
• 38:01
  Speaker 9: wonderful volunteers, I don't think we should again politicize these
• 38:06
  Speaker 9: good people who are running a sporting event and doing
• 38:09
  Speaker 9: their very best. And that sadly is what we're seeing
• 38:12
  Speaker 9: from James Patterson and the opposition.
• 38:13
  Speaker 11: Linda, you can't say those things about James Patterson. He's
• 38:18
  Speaker 11: merely saying what the facts are and people understand that
• 38:22
  Speaker 11: the Prime Minister is weak and there is no leadership
• 38:25
  Speaker 11: and it just filters all the way down.
• 38:28
  Speaker 2: Yeah.
• 38:28
  Speaker 3: Absolutely, Well let's move on because Perth councils are polling
• 38:31
  Speaker 3: rate payers on whether or not Australia Day celebrations should
• 38:34
  Speaker 3: be held on January twenty six, Cottaslow and Subiaco Councils,
• 38:38
  Speaker 3: which both currently host citizenship ceremonies on.
• 38:41
  Speaker 2: The original date.
• 38:42
  Speaker 3: Are the latest to announce the issue will go to
• 38:44
  Speaker 3: a vote for the polls set to.
• 38:45
  Speaker 2: Go out later this year. Brob, When here we go again.
• 38:48
  Speaker 11: Why well, there are a couple of other met mayors
• 38:50
  Speaker 11: who are talking about this polling business. One of them
• 38:53
  Speaker 11: is a mayor Carter, and he simply says, this is Australia.
• 38:56
  Speaker 11: They well get knowne with it. That's leadership. Another one
• 39:00
  Speaker 11: is mayor I think you pronounced it Bueggi. She says, Oh,
• 39:04
  Speaker 11: I've got to get guidance from the federal government to
• 39:06
  Speaker 11: tell me because we don't know whether we should have
• 39:09
  Speaker 11: a citizenship that is not of leadership. So get resign,
• 39:14
  Speaker 11: Get a mayor in who knows what they're doing. The
• 39:16
  Speaker 11: bottom line is there are two very good reasons for
• 39:18
  Speaker 11: celebrating the twenty sixth. The first is the rather than
• 39:21
  Speaker 11: the first fleet. The second is that on the twenty
• 39:25
  Speaker 11: sixth of January, it became law that all people who
• 39:30
  Speaker 11: resided in Australia hithertofore were British subjects became Australian citizens.
• 39:36
  Speaker 11: Everybody born in Australia became an Australian citizen on the
• 39:41
  Speaker 11: twenty sixth of January nineteen forty nine, and it was
• 39:44
  Speaker 11: cocky Corwell who brought him the legislation. So you know
• 39:48
  Speaker 11: there's good president for this prime minister to take it
• 39:52
  Speaker 11: up and be strong about it, not say three days
• 39:55
  Speaker 11: of leeway. Maybe you'd like to have it that day,
• 39:57
  Speaker 11: but you don't have through.
• 39:58
  Speaker 3: I mean, it's come out, be honest, show some leadership.
• 40:02
  Speaker 3: You're a former councilor yourself, Linda, where do you sit
• 40:05
  Speaker 3: on this?
• 40:06
  Speaker 2: Do you support councils going out there polling people on it?
• 40:09
  Speaker 9: Look, there's five hundred and thirty seven councils across Australia
• 40:12
  Speaker 9: and it's their job to represent their communities and they're
• 40:16
  Speaker 9: all very different.
• 40:17
  Speaker 2: That's the job.
• 40:18
  Speaker 9: And the wonderful thing about local government.
• 40:22
  Speaker 10: Excuse me, I served as the National President of Local Government. Sorry, no,
• 40:26
  Speaker 10: that's all right, under Prime Minister Scott Morrison and under
• 40:30
  Speaker 10: Prime Minister Anthony Eveneazy. And in all that time the
• 40:33
  Speaker 10: Australian Federal Government under Prime Minister Morrison as well, held
• 40:37
  Speaker 10: their Australian Australia Day.
• 40:39
  Speaker 9: Ceremonies the night before. They held it at night because
• 40:42
  Speaker 9: it was cool and they held it the night before
• 40:44
  Speaker 9: the public holiday. So councils do all sorts of things
• 40:48
  Speaker 9: that are different across Australia and I think that that
• 40:50
  Speaker 9: is suitable. Many of them can't afford paying people on
• 40:54
  Speaker 9: a public holiday that is very expensive. In the City
• 40:57
  Speaker 9: of Sydney, when I was a councilor for twelve years,
• 40:59
  Speaker 9: we held citizenship ceremonies in the morning and then in
• 41:03
  Speaker 9: the afternoon we held the jab And Festival, a great
• 41:06
  Speaker 9: cultural celebration of Indigenous culture in the inner city of Sydney.
• 41:11
  Speaker 9: Councils do things differently. That's their job, that's their essence,
• 41:17
  Speaker 9: is to represent their local committees.
• 41:19
  Speaker 2: Remember why can't they just stick to roads, rates and rubbish.
• 41:22
  Speaker 9: Well, councils do lots of different things in remote parts
• 41:25
  Speaker 9: of Australia. They're running water utilities, They're ensuring that there's
• 41:28
  Speaker 9: local infrastructure like libraries and early education, as well as
• 41:32
  Speaker 9: providing roads, rates and rubbish. I mean, without local government,
• 41:36
  Speaker 9: most of the nation wouldn't be able to run.
• 41:38
  Speaker 2: So I think it is critical.
• 41:40
  Speaker 9: Let's not tell councils what to do. Let's let Australians
• 41:43
  Speaker 9: elect them and get on with doing the job of
• 41:46
  Speaker 9: representing their local community.
• 41:47
  Speaker 11: Gender councils carry out citizenship ceremonies under the aus disease
• 41:53
  Speaker 11: of the federal government. The federal government says to councils,
• 41:56
  Speaker 11: we give you the authority to carry them out and
• 41:59
  Speaker 11: to these people turn them into citizens. So I can't
• 42:02
  Speaker 11: tell you how many I've been to and the most
• 42:04
  Speaker 11: joyous ones are in the heat of the morning sun
• 42:07
  Speaker 11: on the beach at Newport, when people still stop me
• 42:11
  Speaker 11: in the supermarkets. How fantastic it was when you made
• 42:13
  Speaker 11: me a citizen.
• 42:14
  Speaker 9: But from when councils do citizenship ceremonies throughout the year.
• 42:17
  Speaker 2: In the city of we had.
• 42:19
  Speaker 9: One months so we did not an issue about it.
• 42:23
  Speaker 11: But the best ones were always on Australia Day.
• 42:26
  Speaker 2: I think Australia.
• 42:27
  Speaker 3: I feel like Australia Day is the right day to
• 42:29
  Speaker 3: do it. But look, before I let you guys go,
• 42:30
  Speaker 3: one more question. Climate Change and Energy Minister Chris Bowland
• 42:33
  Speaker 3: has quit elon Musk's social media platform X for Blue Sky,
• 42:36
  Speaker 3: saying that X is no longer the place for informed
• 42:39
  Speaker 3: and respectful conversation.
• 42:41
  Speaker 2: Linda, is it just quitting?
• 42:43
  Speaker 3: I mean, come on, he's a minister, honestly, nobody gets
• 42:46
  Speaker 3: here would get coop flak all the time here here.
• 42:49
  Speaker 9: I mean, I have to say I do have an
• 42:50
  Speaker 9: ex account. I haven't looked at it for months since
• 42:52
  Speaker 9: I left local government, but every time I went on
• 42:55
  Speaker 9: it it was abusive, run by bots, and to be honest,
• 42:58
  Speaker 9: there was quite a lot of pawn on there.
• 43:01
  Speaker 2: It out you're a middle stay. How you communicate with
• 43:04
  Speaker 2: your audience?
• 43:05
  Speaker 9: Please move to other social media platforms?
• 43:07
  Speaker 2: Good on? What do you think Brown?
• 43:08
  Speaker 11: I think it's pathetic. I mean, seriously, the man is
• 43:12
  Speaker 11: so pathetic.
• 43:12
  Speaker 9: Do you have an account from Win?
• 43:14
  Speaker 2: Do you have?
• 43:14
  Speaker 4: No?
• 43:14
  Speaker 11: I do not, No, I do not, and I don't
• 43:17
  Speaker 11: involve myself in social media. I do look at social media,
• 43:22
  Speaker 11: but I don't participate in it. But I have to
• 43:25
  Speaker 11: say in Blowhard Bowen all honest, speed's quit the man.
• 43:31
  Speaker 3: The man's that's as simple as that man a quitter exactly.
• 43:35
  Speaker 3: We have to go Browan, Bishop, Linda Scott, good to
• 43:37
  Speaker 3: have you both on. Thank you so much for joining
• 43:39
  Speaker 3: me well in an extraordinary intervention. Elon Musk, a right
• 43:43
  Speaker 3: hand man of incoming President Donald Trump, has called for
• 43:45
  Speaker 3: a new political leader of one of Britain's political parties.
• 43:49
  Speaker 3: Must call for Nigel Farage to stand down, insisting he
• 43:53
  Speaker 3: doesn't have what it takes. Joining me is writer and
• 43:55
  Speaker 3: commentator Esther Krakhu. So thanks for joining me. Help us
• 43:58
  Speaker 3: to understand exactly what has happened here. Okay, well, unfortunately
• 44:12
  Speaker 3: we have lost Esther. I want to talk about Nigel
• 44:15
  Speaker 3: Farage this evening and stunning intervention by Elon Musk overnight
• 44:20
  Speaker 3: saying that no he should have been leader of the party.
• 44:23
  Speaker 3: We do have Esther back. Let's try and get it back. Esther,
• 44:26
  Speaker 3: thank you for joining me. So as I was saying,
• 44:28
  Speaker 3: explain exactly what's happened here? Why does Elon Musk want
• 44:32
  Speaker 3: Forage to go?
• 44:34
  Speaker 1: Yes?
• 44:35
  Speaker 12: I think this is really kind of arn the cat
• 44:36
  Speaker 12: amongst the pigeons, because for the last few weeks the
• 44:38
  Speaker 12: media here has been obsessed with the one hundred million
• 44:42
  Speaker 12: dollar alleged donation that Elon Musk.
• 44:44
  Speaker 1: Wanted to meet to the Reform Party.
• 44:46
  Speaker 12: But basically the reason behind this has kind of it's
• 44:49
  Speaker 12: basically political gossip that's filtered down and at the heart
• 44:52
  Speaker 12: of it is Tommy Robinson, who's currently serving eighteen months
• 44:55
  Speaker 12: in prison for being in contempt.
• 44:57
  Speaker 1: Of court for releasing a docum.
• 45:00
  Speaker 12: Entry that the Quarter allegers was libelous against a fifteen
• 45:02
  Speaker 12: year old Syrian refugee here.
• 45:04
  Speaker 1: In the UK.
• 45:05
  Speaker 12: Now, what ignited this, and I'm sure you saw, was
• 45:07
  Speaker 12: Elon Musk's intervention about you know, the grooming gangs, which
• 45:11
  Speaker 12: really should be called the rape gangs here in the UK,
• 45:14
  Speaker 12: where thousands of white British girls predominantly were sexually assaulted,
• 45:19
  Speaker 12: preyed upon.
• 45:19
  Speaker 1: Groomed, raped, gang raped by predominantly.
• 45:23
  Speaker 12: British Pakistani men met or British men mainly Pakistani miss
• 45:28
  Speaker 12: some heritage.
• 45:29
  Speaker 1: And this has caused a.
• 45:30
  Speaker 12: Storm because you know, it's something that has really discussed
• 45:32
  Speaker 12: a lot of Americans on social media and they're confused
• 45:34
  Speaker 12: by the lack of outrage or the seemingly lack of
• 45:37
  Speaker 12: outrage here in the UK. I mean, just to put
• 45:40
  Speaker 12: into context, last year, in February twenty twenty four, we
• 45:43
  Speaker 12: had Parliament here in the UK descendant to madness.
• 45:47
  Speaker 1: Basically Westminster evolved into.
• 45:48
  Speaker 12: This pantomime mess where MP's were storming out of Westminster
• 45:53
  Speaker 12: because of a vote on Gaza, which is the territory
• 45:55
  Speaker 12: thousands of miles away from the UK. But the Parliament
• 45:57
  Speaker 12: never devolved into madness or any form of victim, any
• 46:01
  Speaker 12: sort of theater over thousands of white British girls being
• 46:05
  Speaker 12: let down by counselors, politicians, police officers because of political
• 46:09
  Speaker 12: correctness and that they're reluctance to tackle this cancer here
• 46:13
  Speaker 12: in the country. So, you know, Elon Musk ignited the story.
• 46:15
  Speaker 12: He was releasing court documents which which just basically detailed
• 46:18
  Speaker 12: the harrowing ordeal of many of these victims who you know,
• 46:22
  Speaker 12: had been burnt. Some of them had been burnt to live,
• 46:25
  Speaker 12: some of them had had their houses burned. So whether
• 46:26
  Speaker 12: them had been had had.
• 46:28
  Speaker 1: Objects inserted into them.
• 46:29
  Speaker 12: They some girls as young as eleven were gang raped
• 46:32
  Speaker 12: by up to four men.
• 46:33
  Speaker 1: I mean, it was just the stuff of nightmares.
• 46:35
  Speaker 12: And so from there, yeah, but so from their Twitter
• 46:39
  Speaker 12: basically devolved into too political gossip and people were saying,
• 46:41
  Speaker 12: Tommy Robinson raised this issue years before it became fashionable,
• 46:47
  Speaker 12: which is true. But I mean Tommy Robinson was in context,
• 46:50
  Speaker 12: really quite far along the line of people that were
• 46:52
  Speaker 12: trying to raise this. You had labor MPs that were
• 46:54
  Speaker 12: harangued by their own party for trying to raise this.
• 46:57
  Speaker 12: You had people, you know, politicians, counselors, embarrassters police officers
• 47:03
  Speaker 12: that were basically handled out of a job were told
• 47:05
  Speaker 12: not to speak about it for fear of upsetting the
• 47:07
  Speaker 12: ethnic vote in those communities. And then you know, Elon
• 47:11
  Speaker 12: Musk found out that Tommy Robinson is currently saving solitary
• 47:14
  Speaker 12: confinement and time in prison, and then it all went
• 47:17
  Speaker 12: from there. But I think Nigel was actually quite smart
• 47:20
  Speaker 12: to say, listen, this is a separate issue. Tommy Robinson,
• 47:23
  Speaker 12: for people that don't know, has a long rap sheet.
• 47:25
  Speaker 12: I mean some of his criminal convictions include financial and
• 47:28
  Speaker 12: immigration fraud. I mean, just because he was right about
• 47:31
  Speaker 12: the grooming scandal doesn't mean that, you know, reformers are
• 47:33
  Speaker 12: now working with open arms. So that's basically the whole tale.
• 47:37
  Speaker 3: Look, it's quite complicated, this grooming game scandal, and we
• 47:40
  Speaker 3: don't have a lot of time esther, but I want
• 47:42
  Speaker 3: to ask you what has the labor government over there
• 47:45
  Speaker 3: had to say about this.
• 47:47
  Speaker 12: Well, that's another that's an even bigger storm because just Phillips,
• 47:51
  Speaker 12: who is the Secretary for the Protection of Safeguarding of
• 47:54
  Speaker 12: Women and Girls, has refused to back a national inquiry
• 47:57
  Speaker 12: into this. Now, just to put this into context, and
• 48:00
  Speaker 12: has been going on for well of the two decades
• 48:01
  Speaker 12: and there's evidence that is still continuing today. There were
• 48:04
  Speaker 12: many council, local councils, politicians and police officers that either
• 48:09
  Speaker 12: turned the blind eye or even worse, were complicit in this,
• 48:12
  Speaker 12: and only backing a local inquiry doesn't give the councils
• 48:15
  Speaker 12: the resources to really investigate this, and many in the
• 48:17
  Speaker 12: councils were seen to be complicit in this. So it's
• 48:20
  Speaker 12: like getting a student to mark their own homework. So
• 48:22
  Speaker 12: that the Labor Party has faced a lot of backlash,
• 48:25
  Speaker 12: especially because at the time were many of these people
• 48:28
  Speaker 12: and starting to.
• 48:28
  Speaker 1: Be brought to justice.
• 48:30
  Speaker 12: Guess who was the leader the head of the Crown
• 48:31
  Speaker 12: Prosecution Service are at the time the Prime Minister kir Starmer.
• 48:35
  Speaker 1: Wow, So there is all these allegations.
• 48:37
  Speaker 12: That you know that she's trying to stop the real
• 48:39
  Speaker 12: scrutiny into to the Labor Party, to the politicians, and
• 48:42
  Speaker 12: to ultimately kis Starmer's responsibility in this.
• 48:44
  Speaker 3: Esther, I wish we had more time to discuss it
• 48:46
  Speaker 3: because this is a really serious story unfolding over in
• 48:49
  Speaker 3: the UK and we hope to speak to you again
• 48:51
  Speaker 3: about Esther Cracker. Thank you so much for joining me
• 48:54
  Speaker 3: this evening. Well that's all we've got time for. Stay
• 48:56
  Speaker 3: with us here on Sky News. Up next is the
• 48:58
  Speaker 3: Lake debate.
• 48:58
  Speaker 2: Good night, oh,