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(Podcast) How Trump’s 2025 Agenda Destroys the Earth — and U.S. Business · Uncensored Objection

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  OK,
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  so,
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  you know,
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  things are pretty intense right now and we're all trying to
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  make sense of it.
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  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, it's a lot.
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  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
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  So today we're going to like really get into this article by
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  attorney Mitch Jackson.
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  SPEAKER_00: Oh, yeah.
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  SPEAKER_00: Mitch Jackson.
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  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_01: It's on his uncensored objection substack.
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  SPEAKER_00: That's a great substack, by the way.
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  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, it is.
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  So he's breaking down,
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  like,
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  all this political news and,
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  you know,
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  where we are right now.
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  SPEAKER_00: Right now, yeah.
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  SPEAKER_01: And,
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  SPEAKER_01: you know,
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  SPEAKER_01: I think a lot of people are feeling,
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  SPEAKER_01: like,
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  SPEAKER_01: pretty alarmed,
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  SPEAKER_01: you know,
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  SPEAKER_01: with a convicted felon who's been twice impeached as,
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  SPEAKER_01: like,
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  SPEAKER_01: The president.
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  SPEAKER_00: The current president of the U.S.
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  SPEAKER_00: It's unbelievable.
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  SPEAKER_01: Right.
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  SPEAKER_01: So we're going to kind of do a deep dive on this and like see,
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  SPEAKER_01: you know,
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  what are like the key takeaways from this article and what does
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  this mean,
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  SPEAKER_01: you know,
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  SPEAKER_01: going forward?
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  SPEAKER_01: Especially like,
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  SPEAKER_01: you know,
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  we're really going to be focusing on environmental policies and
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  business today.
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  SPEAKER_01: Sounds good.
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  SPEAKER_01: So Mitch Jackson right off the bat is like,
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  SPEAKER_01: you know,
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  SPEAKER_01: really concerned about this whole 2025 agenda.
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  SPEAKER_00: Oh, yeah.
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  SPEAKER_00: He's sounding the alarm.
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  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_00: Loud and clear.
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  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_01: And he's, you know, a lawyer and he's also like a business executive.
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  SPEAKER_01: So he really understands this stuff.
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  SPEAKER_00: It's got the experience.
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  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_01: And he's basically saying, like, this is a huge threat.
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  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_01: To not just like, you know, the planet's health, but also like the U.S.
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  SPEAKER_01: economy in the long run.
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  SPEAKER_00: Exactly.
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  SPEAKER_00: He's talking about these executive orders, the rollbacks.
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  SPEAKER_00: I mean, it's.
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  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, it's scary stuff.
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  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_01: And he's saying this is not just like some partisan, you know, opinion.
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  SPEAKER_01: Right.
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  SPEAKER_01: This is like a stark reality.
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  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, this is the reality we're facing.
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  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
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  And we're already seeing the impacts across,
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  you know,
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  so many different sectors.
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  SPEAKER_00: Absolutely.
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  SPEAKER_00: It's affecting everyone.
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  So let's start with this whole thing about this national energy emergency.
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  SPEAKER_00: Oh boy.
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  SPEAKER_01: Like that sounds super intense.
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  SPEAKER_00: It does sound intense, doesn't it?
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  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_00: And it is.
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  SPEAKER_00: I mean, Jackson really breaks it down in this article.
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  SPEAKER_00: It's essentially this declaration, you know, from the administration.
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  SPEAKER_01: Right.
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  SPEAKER_00: Saying that our energy supply is far too inadequate.
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  SPEAKER_01: Inadequate for what?
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  SPEAKER_00: Well, that's the thing.
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  SPEAKER_00: It's like inadequate for what?
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  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_00: They're not really clear on that.
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  It's just this general statement to push through all these
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  fossil fuel projects.
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  SPEAKER_01: And bypass environmental laws.
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  SPEAKER_00: Oh, yeah.
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  SPEAKER_00: That's a big part of it.
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  SPEAKER_00: I mean,
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  SPEAKER_00: they're basically trying to say,
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  SPEAKER_00: look,
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  SPEAKER_00: we've got this emergency,
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  SPEAKER_00: so we can't be bothered with all these pesky regulations.
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  SPEAKER_01: What's the excuse?
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  SPEAKER_01: Like, what's the story they're selling?
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  SPEAKER_00: Well, they're saying it's all about, you know, lowering fuel prices.
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  SPEAKER_01: OK.
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  SPEAKER_00: Which, you know, sounds good on the surface.
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  SPEAKER_00: Right.
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  SPEAKER_00: And then they're talking about national security.
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  SPEAKER_00: Like we're too reliant on foreign oil.
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  SPEAKER_01: Right.
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  And that somehow,
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  you know,
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  by drilling more here,
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  we're going to be more secure.
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  SPEAKER_01: Right.
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  SPEAKER_00: Which is completely illogical.
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  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_00: I mean, we were already a top producer.
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  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_00: Before all of this.
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  SPEAKER_01: Right.
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  And then they're saying,
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  oh,
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  the regulations are strangling energy production.
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  SPEAKER_01: Right.
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  SPEAKER_00: It's all just rhetoric, you know.
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  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, it sounds like the same old song and dance.
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  SPEAKER_00: It really is.
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  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_00: It's like they're dusting off the same playbook from like decades ago.
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  SPEAKER_01: And Mitch Jackson's like hauling BS on all of this, right?
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  SPEAKER_00: Oh, yeah.
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  SPEAKER_00: He's like, hold on a second.
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  SPEAKER_00: This is a manufactured excuse.
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  SPEAKER_01: Right.
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  SPEAKER_00: He's laying out the facts.
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  SPEAKER_01: Uh-huh.
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  SPEAKER_00: The U.S.
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  SPEAKER_00: was already the world's top producer of oil and gas.
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  SPEAKER_01: Right.
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  SPEAKER_00: Like you said, there was no shortage.
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  SPEAKER_00: Right.
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  SPEAKER_00: This is all about giving the oil companies free reign.
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  SPEAKER_01: So no oversight.
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  SPEAKER_00: No oversight.
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  SPEAKER_00: Exactly.
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  They want to do whatever they want,
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  wherever they want,
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  with zero accountability.
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  SPEAKER_01: And that's terrifying.
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  SPEAKER_00: It is terrifying because we know what that means.
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  SPEAKER_00: It means more pollution, more environmental destruction.
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  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_00: And ultimately it hurts everyone.
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  SPEAKER_01: So let's talk about like the specific dangers here.
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  SPEAKER_01: Like you mentioned, you know, bypassing the Clean Water Act.
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  Yeah,
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  the Clean Water Act is like a bedrock environmental law in this country.
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  SPEAKER_01: Oh, yeah.
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  SPEAKER_00: It's been protecting our rivers, our lakes, our wetlands for decades.
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  SPEAKER_01: Right.
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  SPEAKER_00: And they're just trying to sweep it aside.
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  SPEAKER_01: And then the Endangered Species Act, too.
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  SPEAKER_00: Oh, yeah.
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  SPEAKER_00: I mean, think about all the amazing wildlife we have in this country.
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  SPEAKER_00: Right.
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  SPEAKER_00: From bald eagles to gray wolves to sea turtles.
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  SPEAKER_00: And this act is what helps protect them from extinction.
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  SPEAKER_00: Right.
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  SPEAKER_01: Right.
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  SPEAKER_00: But with this so-called emergency,
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  SPEAKER_00: they can just fast-track pipelines through critical habitats.
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  SPEAKER_01: And just drill wherever they want.
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  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, exactly.
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  SPEAKER_00: They don't care about the consequences.
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  SPEAKER_01: So we're talking about more oil spills.
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  SPEAKER_00: Yeah,
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  SPEAKER_00: we've seen what those can do to our oceans,
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  SPEAKER_00: our coastlines,
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  SPEAKER_00: the devastating impacts on wildlife and communities.
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  SPEAKER_00: Right.
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  SPEAKER_00: And then there are the methane leaks.
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  SPEAKER_01: Right.
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  SPEAKER_00: Methane is an incredibly potent greenhouse gas.
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  SPEAKER_01: Right.
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  SPEAKER_00: Far worse than carbon dioxide in terms of its warming potential.
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  SPEAKER_01: And it just gets worse and worse for the climate.
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  SPEAKER_00: Exactly.
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  SPEAKER_00: It's like they're trying to accelerate climate change.
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  SPEAKER_01: Right.
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  SPEAKER_01: And what about like public health?
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  SPEAKER_01: This has got to have serious implications for people's health.
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  SPEAKER_00: Oh, absolutely.
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  I mean,
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  think about all the air pollution that comes from drilling and
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  burning fossil fuels.
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  SPEAKER_00: Right.
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  SPEAKER_00: We're talking about more asthma, more heart and lung disease.
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  SPEAKER_00: Right.
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  SPEAKER_00: And then you have the water contamination from spills and leaks.
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  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_01: It's like they're putting profits ahead of people's lives.
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  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_00: It's a classic case of corporate greed over people and planet.
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  SPEAKER_01: And what about like the business perspective on all of this?
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  Mitch Jackson is really critical of this from like an economic
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  standpoint too,
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  right?
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  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, he is.
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  SPEAKER_00: He's basically saying this is shooting ourselves in the foot.
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  SPEAKER_01: Right.
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  SPEAKER_00: The world is moving towards clean energy.
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  SPEAKER_01: Right.
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  And by clinging to fossil fuels,
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  we're missing out on this huge opportunity.
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  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_00: We're going to be left behind.
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  And what about like investors,
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  people who are putting money into clean tech?
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  Yeah,
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  they're looking at this and saying,
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  wait a minute,
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  what's going on here?
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  SPEAKER_00: They're seeing instability.
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  SPEAKER_00: They're seeing uncertainty.
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  SPEAKER_00: Right.
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  SPEAKER_00: And they're taking their money elsewhere.
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  SPEAKER_01: And that's bad for the U.S.
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  SPEAKER_01: economy.
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  SPEAKER_00: It's really bad.
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  SPEAKER_00: It's like we're actively sabotaging our own economic future.
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  SPEAKER_01: It's mind boggling.
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  SPEAKER_00: It really is.
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  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_00: It's like they don't understand how the world works anymore.
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  SPEAKER_01: So this whole energy emergency is not about real security.
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  SPEAKER_00: No, it's not about security at all.
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  SPEAKER_01: It's about propping up the fossil fuel industry.
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  SPEAKER_00: Yes.
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  SPEAKER_00: But protecting their profits no matter the cost.
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  SPEAKER_01: And it's also about like, you know, our global leadership.
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  SPEAKER_00: Oh, yeah, absolutely.
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  SPEAKER_01: You know, we were at least trying to be leaders in the climate fight.
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  SPEAKER_00: Right.
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  SPEAKER_00: We were making some progress.
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  SPEAKER_01: And now we're just reversing all of that.
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  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_00: We're basically saying we don't care about climate change.
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  SPEAKER_01: We're out.
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  SPEAKER_00: We're out.
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  SPEAKER_00: Exactly.
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  SPEAKER_00: And that sends a terrible message to the rest of the world.
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  SPEAKER_01: Right.
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  SPEAKER_01: And it creates a vacuum.
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  SPEAKER_00: Exactly.
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  SPEAKER_01: You know, if we're stepping back, other countries are going to step in.
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  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, countries like China and the EU.
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  SPEAKER_00: Right.
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  SPEAKER_00: They're investing heavily in clean energy.
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  SPEAKER_01: Right.
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  SPEAKER_00: They see the writing on the wall.
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  SPEAKER_01: And they're going to be the leaders of the future.
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  SPEAKER_00: We're going to be left in the dust.
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  SPEAKER_01: So let's talk about this next thing,
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  SPEAKER_01: this unleashing American energy,
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  SPEAKER_01: which is just like deregulation on steroids.
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  SPEAKER_00: Oh, yeah.
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  SPEAKER_00: This one's a doozy.
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  So this is basically an executive order to just like dismantle
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  all these rules.
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  SPEAKER_00: Anything that the fossil fuel companies don't like.
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  SPEAKER_01: They're just going to get rid of it.
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  SPEAKER_00: Gone.
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  SPEAKER_01: Wow.
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  SPEAKER_00: Just like crazy.
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  SPEAKER_01: Crazy.
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  SPEAKER_01: And it's not just like, you know, energy stuff.
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  SPEAKER_01: It's like across the board.
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  SPEAKER_00: Yeah,
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  SPEAKER_00: they're going after environmental regulations,
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  SPEAKER_00: worker safety,
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  SPEAKER_00: anything that gets in their way.
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  SPEAKER_01: And they're revoking all these climate initiatives.
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  Yeah,
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  all the progress we made under the previous administration just
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  wiped out.
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  SPEAKER_01: And freezing funding for clean entering projects?
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  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, they're trying to starve the clean energy sector.
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  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_00: It's really unbelievable.
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  SPEAKER_00: And the justification they're giving is just laughable.
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  SPEAKER_01: So what are they saying?
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  SPEAKER_01: Like, what's their excuse this time?
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  SPEAKER_00: Oh, the same tired lines, you know, cutting job killing regulations.
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  SPEAKER_01: Right.
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  SPEAKER_00: Unleashing economic growth.
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  SPEAKER_00: Right.
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  SPEAKER_00: Creating jobs, although those jobs are mostly in polluting industries.
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  SPEAKER_00: Right.
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  SPEAKER_00: And they love to throw around the term green boondoggles.
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  SPEAKER_01: Right.
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  SPEAKER_01: Like anything that's good for the environment is just a waste of money.
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  SPEAKER_00: Exactly.
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  SPEAKER_01: And they say they're doing all this to keep energy prices low.
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  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_00: Right.
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  SPEAKER_00: Because that's worked so well in the past.
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  SPEAKER_01: But Mitch Jackson's like, no, these regulations are vital.
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  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_00: He's like, this is not about burdensome red tape.
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  SPEAKER_00: Right.
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  SPEAKER_00: This is about protecting our health, our environment, our future.
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  SPEAKER_01: Right.
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  SPEAKER_01: These are like safeguards.
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  SPEAKER_00: Really?
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  SPEAKER_00: They're there for a reason.
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  SPEAKER_01: And by getting rid of them, we're just inviting more pollution.
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  SPEAKER_00: More mercury, more smog, more carcinogens.
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  SPEAKER_00: Right.
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  SPEAKER_00: More carbon emissions.
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  SPEAKER_01: Right.
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  SPEAKER_01: And more health problems for people.
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  Yeah,
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  especially for communities that live near these polluting facilities.
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  SPEAKER_00: Right.
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  SPEAKER_00: They're the ones who bear the brunt of it.
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  Yeah,
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  they're the ones who are breathing in the toxic air and
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  drinking the contaminated water.
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  SPEAKER_00: Exactly.
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  SPEAKER_00: And this administration just doesn't seem to care.
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  SPEAKER_01: And what about the economic impact?
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  SPEAKER_01: Like you mentioned halting clean energy investments.
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  SPEAKER_00: Yes, that's a huge problem.
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  SPEAKER_01: We were seeing so much growth in those sectors.
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  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_00: Solar, wind, electric vehicles, battery technology.
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  SPEAKER_00: Right.
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  SPEAKER_00: All these industries were booming.
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  SPEAKER_01: And now they're just like slamming on the brakes.
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  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_00: It's like they're trying to kill the clean energy sector.
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  SPEAKER_01: And that's going to cost us jobs.
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  SPEAKER_00: Tons of jobs.
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  SPEAKER_01: And it's going to create uncertainty for businesses.
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  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_00: Who wants to invest in a sector where the rules are constantly changing?
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  SPEAKER_01: Right.
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  SPEAKER_00: It's just too risky.
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  SPEAKER_01: So we're talking about like a huge economic self-sabotage.
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  SPEAKER_00: Absolutely.
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  SPEAKER_00: We're shooting ourselves in the foot again.
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  SPEAKER_01: And then there's the whole thing with the EV sector.
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  SPEAKER_00: Oh, yeah.
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  SPEAKER_00: They're really going after electric vehicles.
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  SPEAKER_00: Right.
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  SPEAKER_00: They want to end the EV mandate.
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  SPEAKER_00: Right.
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  SPEAKER_00: They want to roll back fuel efficiency standards.
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  SPEAKER_01: And that's just going to hurt American automakers.
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  SPEAKER_01: Right.
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  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_00: The ones who are finally starting to make EVs.
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  SPEAKER_00: Right.
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  SPEAKER_00: It's like they're trying to help foreign companies.
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  SPEAKER_00: Right.
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  SPEAKER_00: Like they want China to dominate the EV market.
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  SPEAKER_01: So once again, it's like we're seeding leadership.
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  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_00: We're giving up our position as a leader in clean technology.
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  SPEAKER_01: And we're just going to be left behind.
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  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
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  We're going to be stuck in the past while the rest of the world
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  moves forward.
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  SPEAKER_01: It's so frustrating.
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  It is frustrating because we have the potential to be leaders
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  in this space.
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  SPEAKER_01: Right.
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  SPEAKER_00: But this administration is just determined to hold us back.
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  SPEAKER_01: All right.
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  SPEAKER_01: So let's talk about the Paris Climate Agreement.
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  SPEAKER_00: Oh, boy.
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  SPEAKER_00: Here we go again.
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  SPEAKER_01: This is like the second time they're trying to pull us out.
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  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_00: It's like a bad sequel.
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  So they're instructing the State Department to like pull out of everything.
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  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
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  SPEAKER_00: All the related accords, all the climate finance initiatives.
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  SPEAKER_01: Wow.
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  SPEAKER_00: It's like they're trying to isolate us from the rest of the world.
• 9:59
  SPEAKER_01: And what's their excuse this time?
• 10:01
  SPEAKER_00: Oh, the same old tired lines.
• 10:03
  SPEAKER_01: Bad deal for America.
• 10:05
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 10:05
  SPEAKER_00: Unfairly burdens the U.S.
• 10:07
  SPEAKER_00: Right.
• 10:08
  SPEAKER_00: Globalist intrusion.
• 10:09
  SPEAKER_01: Right.
• 10:09
  SPEAKER_01: Like it's some kind of conspiracy.
• 10:11
  SPEAKER_00: Exactly.
• 10:12
  SPEAKER_01: But Mitch Jackson is like, this is a major setback for the entire planet.
• 10:17
  SPEAKER_00: Oh, yeah.
• 10:17
  SPEAKER_00: He's not mincing words.
• 10:19
  SPEAKER_01: Right.
• 10:19
  SPEAKER_00: He's saying this is a disaster for the global climate fight.
• 10:22
  SPEAKER_01: Because it gives other countries an excuse to backslide.
• 10:25
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 10:25
  SPEAKER_00: If the U.S.
• 10:25
  SPEAKER_00: isn't going to take it seriously, why should they?
• 10:28
  SPEAKER_01: Right.
• 10:29
  SPEAKER_00: And it also sends a terrible message.
• 10:30
  SPEAKER_01: Right.
• 10:30
  SPEAKER_01: Like we're not reliable partners.
• 10:32
  SPEAKER_00: We can't be trusted.
• 10:33
  SPEAKER_01: So what are the actual consequences?
• 10:35
  SPEAKER_01: Like what are we looking at here?
• 10:37
  SPEAKER_00: We're talking about more extreme weather.
• 10:39
  SPEAKER_00: Right.
• 10:39
  SPEAKER_00: More hurricanes, more droughts, more wildfires.
• 10:42
  SPEAKER_00: And those things have a direct impact on people's lives.
• 10:45
  SPEAKER_01: Right.
• 10:46
  SPEAKER_00: People lose their homes, their livelihoods, their loved ones.
• 10:49
  SPEAKER_01: And it also has huge economic costs.
• 10:51
  SPEAKER_00: Oh, yeah.
• 10:51
  SPEAKER_00: The cost of rebuilding after these disasters is astronomical.
• 10:56
  SPEAKER_00: And then you have the impact on agriculture.
• 10:58
  SPEAKER_01: Right.
• 10:58
  SPEAKER_00: On insurance.
• 10:59
  SPEAKER_01: On everything.
• 11:00
  SPEAKER_00: On everything.
• 11:01
  SPEAKER_00: Exactly.
• 11:01
  SPEAKER_01: And we're also losing out on all these economic opportunities.
• 11:05
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 11:06
  SPEAKER_00: And clean technology and climate solutions.
• 11:08
  SPEAKER_00: Right.
• 11:08
  SPEAKER_00: We'd be leading the world in these areas.
• 11:10
  SPEAKER_01: But instead, we're just sitting on the sidelines.
• 11:12
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 11:12
  SPEAKER_00: Watching other countries take the lead.
• 11:14
  SPEAKER_01: And it's all because this administration is so short sighted.
• 11:17
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, they can't see past their own noses.
• 11:19
  SPEAKER_01: It's really sad.
• 11:21
  SPEAKER_00: It is.
• 11:21
  SPEAKER_00: It's sad for our country, and it's sad for the planet.
• 11:24
  SPEAKER_01: Okay, so let's move on to this next issue.
• 11:27
  SPEAKER_01: This whole thing about pillaging Alaska's wilderness.
• 11:29
  SPEAKER_00: Oh, this one makes me so angry.
• 11:31
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, it's just like a blatant grab for resources.
• 11:34
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, they're basically saying Alaska's open for business.
• 11:37
  SPEAKER_01: Come and get it.
• 11:38
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, baby drill.
• 11:39
  SPEAKER_01: It's sickening.
• 11:40
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 11:41
  SPEAKER_01: So they're talking about opening up the Arctic National Wildlife Refuge.
• 11:45
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, one of the last truly wild places on Earth.
• 11:48
  SPEAKER_01: Right.
• 11:48
  SPEAKER_00: Home to caribou, polar bears, all sorts of incredible wildlife.
• 11:52
  SPEAKER_01: And the Tongass National Forest.
• 11:54
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, the largest national forest in the U.S.,
• 11:56
  SPEAKER_01: And it's a huge carbon sink.
• 11:58
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 11:58
  SPEAKER_00: It absorbs tons of carbon dioxide from the atmosphere.
• 12:00
  SPEAKER_01: Right.
• 12:01
  SPEAKER_00: They just want to cut it all down.
• 12:02
  SPEAKER_01: And then they want to build all these roads.
• 12:04
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 12:04
  SPEAKER_00: Through pristine wilderness areas.
• 12:06
  SPEAKER_01: It's just insane.
• 12:07
  SPEAKER_00: It really is.
• 12:08
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 12:09
  SPEAKER_00: And they're trying to sell it as, you know, job creation.
• 12:11
  SPEAKER_01: Energy independent.
• 12:12
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 12:12
  SPEAKER_00: Empowering local communities.
• 12:14
  SPEAKER_01: But it's all a lie.
• 12:15
  SPEAKER_00: It's a complete lie.
• 12:16
  SPEAKER_01: Mitch Jackson breaks it all down.
• 12:18
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 12:19
  SPEAKER_00: He exposes their lies one by one.
• 12:21
  SPEAKER_01: So let's talk about the actual consequences of this plan.
• 12:25
  OK,
• 12:25
  well,
• 12:25
  first of all,
• 12:26
  it's going to destroy these incredible ecosystems.
• 12:29
  SPEAKER_01: Right.
• 12:29
  SPEAKER_00: We're talking about irreparable damage.
• 12:31
  SPEAKER_01: And it's going to increase carbon emissions.
• 12:33
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, at a time when we need to be reducing them.
• 12:35
  SPEAKER_01: Right.
• 12:35
  SPEAKER_00: It's like they're deliberately trying to make climate change worse.
• 12:39
  SPEAKER_01: And there's also the risk of stranded assets.
• 12:41
  Yeah,
• 12:42
  they're going to pour all this money into these fossil fuel projects.
• 12:45
  SPEAKER_00: And then the world's going to move on.
• 12:46
  SPEAKER_01: And we're going to be stuck with these worthless assets.
• 12:48
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, it's going to be a huge economic loss.
• 12:50
  SPEAKER_01: And then there's the impact on public health.
• 12:52
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 12:53
  SPEAKER_00: From the pollution, from the drilling, from the mining.
• 12:56
  SPEAKER_01: Right.
• 12:56
  SPEAKER_00: It's going to be devastating for communities in Alaska.
• 12:58
  SPEAKER_01: And it's also going to hurt industries like tourism.
• 13:01
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 13:01
  SPEAKER_00: People come to Alaska to see the wilderness.
• 13:03
  SPEAKER_01: Right.
• 13:04
  SPEAKER_00: Not to see oil rigs and mines.
• 13:06
  SPEAKER_01: So it's really short sighted.
• 13:08
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 13:08
  SPEAKER_00: It's like they can't see past the next quarter's profits.
• 13:11
  SPEAKER_01: And it also undermines our global leadership.
• 13:14
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, we're supposed to be a leader in conservation.
• 13:18
  SPEAKER_01: Right.
• 13:18
  SPEAKER_00: But we're acting like a rogue state.
• 13:20
  SPEAKER_01: It's embarrassing.
• 13:21
  SPEAKER_00: It really is.
• 13:22
  SPEAKER_01: Okay, so let's talk about this attack on clean energy development.
• 13:26
  SPEAKER_00: Oh, yeah, this one's a classic.
• 13:27
  SPEAKER_01: So they're specifically targeting wind power.
• 13:30
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, they seem to have a real vendetta against wind turbines.
• 13:33
  SPEAKER_01: I know, it's weird.
• 13:34
  SPEAKER_01: They're withdrawing federal areas from wind leasing.
• 13:38
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, they're basically saying no more offshore wind farms.
• 13:41
  SPEAKER_01: And they're pausing all these ongoing projects?
• 13:43
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, putting them on hold for a review.
• 13:46
  SPEAKER_01: Right.
• 13:46
  SPEAKER_00: Which is probably just a way to kill them.
• 13:49
  SPEAKER_01: And their justification is just ridiculous.
• 13:52
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, they're saying they're concerned about wildlife.
• 13:54
  SPEAKER_01: Like birds and whales.
• 13:55
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, but it's all a smokescreen.
• 13:57
  SPEAKER_01: Right.
• 13:58
  SPEAKER_00: They don't actually care about wildlife.
• 13:59
  SPEAKER_01: Right.
• 14:00
  SPEAKER_00: If they did, they wouldn't be doing all this other stuff.
• 14:01
  SPEAKER_01: Like opening up the Arctic Refuge and gutting the Endangered Species Act.
• 14:06
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, it's all about protecting the fossil fuel industry.
• 14:09
  SPEAKER_01: So Mitch Jackson's like, this is completely disingenuous.
• 14:12
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, he sees right through their lies.
• 14:14
  And he's saying this is going to have a huge negative impact on
• 14:17
  the clean energy sector.
• 14:18
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, it's going to slow down investment.
• 14:19
  SPEAKER_01: Right.
• 14:20
  SPEAKER_00: It's going to cost jobs.
• 14:21
  SPEAKER_01: Right.
• 14:22
  SPEAKER_00: And it's going to make it harder for us to meet our climate goals.
• 14:25
  SPEAKER_01: Right.
• 14:25
  SPEAKER_00: It's a bad move all around.
• 14:27
  SPEAKER_01: And it's also going to hurt public health.
• 14:29
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, because we're going to be more reliant on fossil fuels.
• 14:33
  SPEAKER_01: Which means more air pollution.
• 14:35
  SPEAKER_00: Exactly.
• 14:36
  SPEAKER_01: And more respiratory problems.
• 14:37
  SPEAKER_00: And more premature deaths.
• 14:39
  SPEAKER_01: It's just not worth it.
• 14:40
  SPEAKER_00: It's really not.
• 14:41
  SPEAKER_01: And it's also going to undermine our global leadership.
• 14:44
  SPEAKER_00: Again.
• 14:45
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 14:45
  SPEAKER_00: We're supposed to be a leader in clean energy.
• 14:48
  SPEAKER_01: Right.
• 14:48
  SPEAKER_00: But we're acting like we don't even care.
• 14:50
  SPEAKER_01: It's so frustrating.
• 14:52
  SPEAKER_00: It is.
• 14:52
  SPEAKER_00: It's like they're deliberately trying to make us look bad.
• 14:55
  Okay,
• 14:55
  so let's talk about this dismantling of environmental justice initiatives.
• 15:00
  SPEAKER_00: This one's really disheartening.
• 15:01
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 15:01
  SPEAKER_01: It's basically saying we don't care about communities of color.
• 15:05
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 15:05
  SPEAKER_00: Or low income communities.
• 15:06
  SPEAKER_00: Right.
• 15:07
  SPEAKER_00: The ones who are already disproportionately impacted by pollution.
• 15:10
  SPEAKER_01: So they're eliminating all these EJ programs.
• 15:13
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 15:13
  SPEAKER_00: They're shutting down offices.
• 15:14
  SPEAKER_00: They're cutting funding.
• 15:15
  SPEAKER_01: And they're ending the Justice40 initiative.
• 15:18
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 15:19
  SPEAKER_00: Which was a huge step forward in terms of environmental justice.
• 15:22
  And they're basically saying environmental justice is reverse discrimination.
• 15:26
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, it's unbelievable.
• 15:28
  SPEAKER_01: They're trying to frame it as some kind of attack on white people,
• 15:31
  SPEAKER_01: but it's just a way to silence the voices of marginalized communities.
• 15:36
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, the ones who are most affected by environmental problems.
• 15:38
  SPEAKER_01: So what are the consequences of this?
• 15:40
  SPEAKER_01: Like, what's going to happen?
• 15:42
  SPEAKER_00: Well,
• 15:42
  it means that these communities are going to continue to be
• 15:45
  disproportionately
• 15:46
  SPEAKER_00: impacted by pollution.
• 15:47
  They're going to continue to suffer from higher rates of asthma
• 15:51
  and cancer.
• 15:52
  SPEAKER_01: Right.
• 15:52
  SPEAKER_00: And they're going to have less access to clean air and clean water.
• 15:56
  SPEAKER_01: And it's going to deepen inequality.
• 15:57
  SPEAKER_00: Absolutely.
• 15:58
  SPEAKER_01: It's going to make the rich richer and the poor poorer.
• 16:00
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 16:01
  SPEAKER_00: And it's going to make the healthier, the sick, sicker.
• 16:03
  SPEAKER_01: And it's also going to hurt businesses.
• 16:04
  SPEAKER_01: Right.
• 16:05
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, because businesses need healthy workers.
• 16:08
  SPEAKER_00: And they need communities that are thriving.
• 16:10
  But this administration is just creating more division and more suffering.
• 16:15
  SPEAKER_01: And it's also going to undermine our global leadership.
• 16:18
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 16:19
  SPEAKER_00: Again, we're supposed to be a beacon of hope for the world.
• 16:22
  SPEAKER_01: Right.
• 16:22
  SPEAKER_00: But we're acting like we don't even care about human rights.
• 16:25
  SPEAKER_01: It's shameful.
• 16:26
  SPEAKER_00: It really is.
• 16:27
  SPEAKER_01: All right.
• 16:27
  SPEAKER_01: So lastly, let's talk about this whole people over fish mentality.
• 16:30
  SPEAKER_00: Oh, yeah.
• 16:31
  SPEAKER_00: This one's a doozy.
• 16:32
  SPEAKER_01: So they're basically saying we need to divert more water to people.
• 16:37
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 16:38
  SPEAKER_00: Even if it means harming the environment.
• 16:40
  SPEAKER_01: So they're scaling back environmental flows in the California Delta.
• 16:43
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 16:44
  SPEAKER_00: Which is already a really fragile ecosystem.
• 16:46
  SPEAKER_01: And they're overriding Endangered Species Act protections.
• 16:49
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 16:49
  SPEAKER_00: They don't care about the fish.
• 16:50
  SPEAKER_01: And they're saying this is all about helping people.
• 16:53
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 16:53
  SPEAKER_00: They're saying it's about providing water for farmers and cities.
• 16:57
  SPEAKER_01: But Mitch Jackson's like this is a false dichotomy.
• 17:00
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 17:00
  SPEAKER_00: He's saying we need both people and fish.
• 17:03
  SPEAKER_00: We need a healthy Delta ecosystem.
• 17:05
  SPEAKER_01: Right.
• 17:06
  SPEAKER_00: And we need to manage our water resources sustainably.
• 17:09
  SPEAKER_01: So what are the actual consequences of this policy?
• 17:12
  SPEAKER_00: Well, it's going to harm fish populations.
• 17:14
  SPEAKER_00: Right.
• 17:14
  SPEAKER_00: It's going to damage the Delta ecosystem.
• 17:16
  SPEAKER_00: Right.
• 17:16
  SPEAKER_00: And it's going to create water shortages in the long run.
• 17:19
  SPEAKER_01: Right.
• 17:20
  SPEAKER_00: Because if we destroy the Delta, we're not going to have any water left.
• 17:24
  SPEAKER_01: And it's also going to have public health impacts.
• 17:26
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 17:26
  SPEAKER_00: From contaminated water.
• 17:28
  SPEAKER_01: Right.
• 17:28
  SPEAKER_00: And it's going to hurt California's economy.
• 17:30
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 17:30
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 17:31
  SPEAKER_00: Because agriculture is a huge part of our economy.
• 17:33
  SPEAKER_01: Right.
• 17:33
  SPEAKER_00: And tourism, too.
• 17:34
  SPEAKER_01: Right.
• 17:35
  SPEAKER_00: People come to California to see the natural beauty.
• 17:37
  SPEAKER_00: Right.
• 17:37
  SPEAKER_00: Not to see a dried up wasteland.
• 17:39
  SPEAKER_01: So it's really a lose-lose situation.
• 17:41
  SPEAKER_01: Right.
• 17:42
  Yeah,
• 17:42
  it's like they're trying to kill the goose that lays the golden egg.
• 17:45
  SPEAKER_01: And it also undermines our global leadership.
• 17:47
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 17:48
  SPEAKER_00: Again, we're supposed to be a leader in water management.
• 17:51
  SPEAKER_01: Right.
• 17:52
  SPEAKER_00: But we're acting like we don't even care about the environment.
• 17:55
  SPEAKER_01: It's so disappointing.
• 17:57
  SPEAKER_00: It really is.
• 17:58
  So,
• 17:58
  yeah,
• 17:58
  this deep dive into Mitch Jackson's article has been pretty alarming.
• 18:03
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, it's a lot to take in.
• 18:04
  SPEAKER_01: It's like a horror show of environmental rollbacks.
• 18:07
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, it's like they're deliberately trying to destroy the planet.
• 18:10
  So the key takeaways are like they're prioritizing fossil fuels
• 18:14
  above everything else.
• 18:17
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 18:17
  SPEAKER_01: They're dismantling all these crucial protections.
• 18:20
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 18:20
  SPEAKER_01: They're abandoning international cooperation.
• 18:23
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 18:24
  SPEAKER_01: And they're just disregarding environmental justice.
• 18:26
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 18:27
  SPEAKER_01: So what does this all mean for us?
• 18:29
  SPEAKER_01: What can we do?
• 18:30
  SPEAKER_00: Well, first of all, we need to stay informed.
• 18:32
  SPEAKER_01: Right.
• 18:32
  SPEAKER_00: We need to know what's going on.
• 18:34
  SPEAKER_01: Right.
• 18:34
  SPEAKER_00: And we need to speak out.
• 18:36
  SPEAKER_01: Right.
• 18:36
  SPEAKER_00: We need to let our elected officials know that we're not okay with this.
• 18:39
  SPEAKER_00: Right.
• 18:40
  SPEAKER_00: I need to vote for people who care about the environment.
• 18:42
  SPEAKER_01: Right.
• 18:43
  SPEAKER_00: And we need to support organizations that are fighting for change.
• 18:45
  SPEAKER_01: Right.
• 18:46
  SPEAKER_00: Like Mitch Jackson.
• 18:47
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 18:48
  SPEAKER_01: So go check out his sub stack.
• 18:49
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 18:50
  SPEAKER_00: It's called Uncensored Objection.
• 18:51
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 18:52
  SPEAKER_01: And subscribe and share his articles.
• 18:53
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 18:54
  SPEAKER_00: And leave comments.
• 18:55
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 18:55
  SPEAKER_01: Let's get a conversation going.
• 18:56
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah.
• 18:57
  SPEAKER_00: Because we need to do something.
• 18:58
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah, this is not sustainable.
• 19:00
  SPEAKER_00: No, it's not.
• 19:01
  SPEAKER_01: So let's end on this thought.
• 19:02
  SPEAKER_01: Okay.
• 19:03
  SPEAKER_01: Given everything we've talked about today,
• 19:06
  SPEAKER_01: what single action do you think would have the biggest impact?
• 19:10
  SPEAKER_00: Ooh, that's a tough one.
• 19:11
  SPEAKER_01: Yeah.
• 19:12
  SPEAKER_00: I think it's about getting people engaged.
• 19:15
  SPEAKER_01: Okay.
• 19:15
  SPEAKER_00: Like really engaged.
• 19:17
  SPEAKER_01: Oh, like getting people to vote.
• 19:18
  Yeah,
• 19:18
  to vote,
• 19:19
  to contact their representatives,
• 19:20
  to donate to environmental groups.
• 19:22
  SPEAKER_00: Right.
• 19:23
  SPEAKER_00: To make their voices heard.
• 19:25
  SPEAKER_01: Because if enough people speak up, then things can change.
• 19:28
  SPEAKER_01: Absolutely.
• 19:29
  SPEAKER_01: So yeah, let's all do our part.
• 19:31
  SPEAKER_00: Yeah, let's save the planet.
• 19:32
  SPEAKER_01: Thanks for joining us for this deep dive.
• 19:34
  SPEAKER_00: It's been a pleasure.