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- 0:03Speaker 1: Bueno, como esta? Oh, oh, oh, here's Mike and Bo.
- 0:07Speaker 2: You guys are the most entertaining sports program in the world.
- 0:12Speaker 3: Drop it, Bo.
- 0:13Speaker 1: Drop it, baby.
- 0:14Speaker 4: No, no, stop twerking. You and I are a couple eating, like,
- 0:16Speaker 4: Lady and the Tramp. You're the lady on the tramp.
- 0:19Speaker 1: Yeah, come on. Come on, baby.
- 0:22Speaker 4: I wish I was Boopy. Boopy McClain, man. That's a
- 0:25Speaker 4: great name.
- 0:25Speaker 1: All aboard! Good morning, Charlotte. Welcome aboard. It is Mac
- 0:44Speaker 1: and Bone Radio Showtime. We have made it to a Thursday.
- 0:47Speaker 1: We have made it to a Thursday. And we have
- 0:50Speaker 1: a doozy of a night for Hornets fans to discuss.
- 0:54Speaker 1: Con can nipple hurt again. And the Hornets lose to
- 0:58Speaker 1: the lowly Brooklyn Nets. We are also lowly, we need
- 1:02Speaker 1: to point out as well. We've got Thursday night football tonight, Jags, Ravens.
- 1:07Speaker 1: We've got some college basketball tonight of local interest, a
- 1:10Speaker 1: bunch of games. So we will talk about that, let
- 1:12Speaker 1: you know what's going on there as well. It's time
- 1:15Speaker 1: to start talking about football. the Denver Broncos, and their
- 1:18Speaker 1: dastardly coach, Sean Payton, who come here to Charlotte on Sunday.
- 1:22Speaker 1: We've got injury reports. We've got Mike Florio talking about
- 1:28Speaker 1: the Bryce Young contract report that he had. The things
- 1:32Speaker 1: are well. down the road towards a $ 50 million a
- 1:35Speaker 1: year contract extension for Bryce. And if you didn't hear
- 1:39Speaker 1: it yesterday, at the end of the show, 6 o'clockers,
- 1:41Speaker 1: you'll get to hear from cornerback Mike Jackson of your
- 1:44Speaker 1: Carolina Panthers. He's doing a very cool charity event on Saturday.
- 1:48Speaker 1: He was in studio with us yesterday to get the
- 1:50Speaker 1: word out, but also to talk about Averro's firing, about
- 1:54Speaker 1: how close he is to returning. Seems like we've got
- 1:57Speaker 1: a shot at next weekend and much, much more. on
- 2:00Speaker 1: that one with Mike Jackson. So that's coming up at
- 2:04Speaker 1: about 6.30. A little replay for you. Sam Farber joins us.
- 2:09Speaker 1: We need the sunshine. I don't know if the sunshine
- 2:12Speaker 1: can cut through the clouds, but he will try.
- 2:15Speaker 4: No one is more prepared for these moments. You think
- 2:17Speaker 4: he's got it, Boone? I don't doubt he has it. Okay,
- 2:20Speaker 4: all right, because I need some sunshine. You're not breaking
- 2:23Speaker 4: this man in November. Hell no. You're not breaking this
- 2:26Speaker 4: man sometimes in March. You cannot break the farm dog.
- 2:32Speaker 1: Oh, my God.
- 2:32Speaker 3: And if he breaks, we are in some trouble.
- 2:34Speaker 1: Yes.
- 2:35Speaker 5: Oh, yeah.
- 2:35Speaker 1: That is a titanic situation.
- 2:38Speaker 3: This would be like Mr. Rogers having a neighborhood rampage.
- 2:41Speaker 1: All right. We will see if Sam can conjure up
- 2:45Speaker 1: some sunshine for Hornets Nation. We got a Panther fan
- 2:48Speaker 1: roundtable with the two stars, Granny Pat and Weatherman Mark,
- 2:53Speaker 1: the two stars. star players of the fan roundtable. So
- 2:57Speaker 1: that's coming up later on here as well. And Fitty,
- 3:02Speaker 1: we are on, I've been told to be on Fitty
- 3:04Speaker 1: toilet watch. If he says anything about going to the bathroom,
- 3:08Speaker 1: I've been told to follow him bone and make sure
- 3:10Speaker 1: he does not go to the lobby bathrooms.
- 3:13Speaker 4: How many people, Matt, came into our side studio yesterday
- 3:16Speaker 4: and said, Fitty, man, what happened? We were up to
- 3:18Speaker 4: like seven people that came in and asked Fitty what happened.
- 3:20Speaker 1: It was unbelievable. It was crazy, Bo. I don't know
- 3:22Speaker 1: how that was happening. And it's weird. I saw you
- 3:25Speaker 1: talking to each of those people before they went in.
- 3:28Speaker 4: It was coincidence, I guess. No, I was telling people, hey,
- 3:31Speaker 4: let's not bring it up. I was telling our engineers.
- 3:35Speaker 4: I was telling salespeople, promotions people, don't walk in there.
- 3:38Speaker 4: and harass the radio god. Let him do his work.
- 3:42Speaker 4: I got your back on this one.
- 3:43Speaker 6: Yeah, Bone, you weren't escorting these people to the studio
- 3:46Speaker 6: like they were red carpet people in Hollywood.
- 3:50Speaker 4: The look on Flounder's face when he found out that
- 3:52Speaker 4: his guy was involved was just of utter disdain. And
- 3:55Speaker 4: if you missed it, Fiddy, we had emails that came
- 3:57Speaker 4: out on Tuesday about the lobby bathrooms were compromised. They
- 4:01Speaker 4: were shut down. Someone did something dastardly in the bathrooms.
- 4:04Speaker 4: And it turns out the evidence points back and the
- 4:07Speaker 4: admission of guilt goes back to one Fiddy Marlowe.
- 4:09Speaker 1: I mean, Flounder can't be shocked, though, right? Weren't they
- 4:12Speaker 1: all hanging out at their buddy NASCAR Brad's house and
- 4:15Speaker 1: blew the toilet up, clogged it up, and said, smell
- 4:17Speaker 1: you later? Yep. And he said, no, I smell you
- 4:19Speaker 1: right now. It's horrible.
- 4:21Speaker 4: The Hornets clogged up a toilet last night. Yes, they've
- 4:25Speaker 4: got a few. They've got as many clogs as Fitty
- 4:27Speaker 4: does at this point. How different?
- 4:31Speaker 1: It feels like a distant memory. The second half of
- 4:36Speaker 1: the year Hornets last year and some of the most
- 4:38Speaker 1: enjoyment I ever had in my life watching this basketball team.
- 4:41Speaker 1: Because this is the complete opposite of that experience. The
- 4:45Speaker 1: complete freaking opposite. They lose by 10 to Brooklyn last night.
- 4:49Speaker 1: And I mean, that's just the start of it. The
- 4:52Speaker 1: con canipple injury. He makes it six minutes. I thought,
- 4:55Speaker 1: and I'm sitting there, I'm like, Kobe's long been out
- 4:57Speaker 1: because apparently Kobe can't play more than like three minutes stretches.
- 5:01Speaker 1: Played only 18 minutes last night as his restrictions continue.
- 5:04Speaker 1: But I was like, man, he was like the last
- 5:08Speaker 1: or next to last starter in when they started subbing.
- 5:11Speaker 1: And I'm like, okay, he must be doing all right.
- 5:14Speaker 1: And then he dribbles a ball off his foot. And, like,
- 5:18Speaker 1: bends over, and next thing you know, he's grabbing his leg,
- 5:22Speaker 1: and we didn't see him for the rest of the
- 5:24Speaker 1: damn night. They're saying it's a left leg injury. The
- 5:27Speaker 1: hamstring injury was the left. And here we are. You're wondering...
- 5:33Speaker 1: Was he ready to come back last night? How long
- 5:35Speaker 1: is he going to be out? You know how these
- 5:38Speaker 1: soft tissue injuries work.
- 5:39Speaker 4: Yeah, it didn't really take much time to put him
- 5:41Speaker 4: back out, did it? Just the ball came near him,
- 5:44Speaker 4: he reached down, and then all of a sudden he's gone.
- 5:46Speaker 4: So that, I mean, it wasn't like he was sprinting
- 5:49Speaker 4: down the court, Mac, and trying to chase down a
- 5:51Speaker 4: layup or trying to make a layup or doing something
- 5:53Speaker 4: that was like overextending himself early into his return. It
- 5:58Speaker 4: was a very basic movement that put him out. And
- 6:01Speaker 4: that's the thing with those injuries. The soft tissue injuries, Mac,
- 6:05Speaker 4: have become a major problem, as we talk about in
- 6:06Speaker 4: baseball all the time. And that was one of those
- 6:08Speaker 4: ones where you'll see a first baseman, Mac, reach down
- 6:11Speaker 4: and all of a sudden there goes an oblique or
- 6:12Speaker 4: a quad or whatever. It was one of those type
- 6:15Speaker 4: of things where you look at it and go, how
- 6:16Speaker 4: did that hurt? But now how long does it put
- 6:18Speaker 4: him out for, though? The very basic movement puts him
- 6:21Speaker 4: out now for how long, probably. But this one isn't
- 6:24Speaker 4: like it came out of the blue. This one was
- 6:26Speaker 4: Duke's first quarterback from a hammy injury. So there's a
- 6:31Speaker 4: lot of questions that can be asked about it. Um,
- 6:35Speaker 4: it just sucks.
- 6:36Speaker 1: Like it just, it's gone back to being very annoying
- 6:39Speaker 1: and sucky to be a Hornets fan. Like I just, I,
- 6:42Speaker 1: my Hornets energy today is, is horrible. And I'm sure
- 6:45Speaker 1: I'm far from alone. No, no. That's a terror.
- 6:47Speaker 3: That's a whore.
- 6:48Speaker 4: That's a, that's one of the worst Hornets nights in
- 6:51Speaker 4: a while, but based off the result of who you
- 6:53Speaker 4: lost to and who you lost in the game and
- 6:56Speaker 4: guys that were in the game that just completely no
- 6:59Speaker 4: show their performance.
- 6:59Speaker 1: Yeah. It's this whole season has been injuries, uh, Missed
- 7:04Speaker 1: shots and turnovers. It's three horrible things in basketball. And
- 7:08Speaker 1: it's just been over and over and over again. The
- 7:11Speaker 1: Hornets shoot 30% from three last night. Brandon Miller, I mean,
- 7:19Speaker 1: so much for the Brandon Miller back-to-back 30-point games and
- 7:22Speaker 1: me on here making declarations about how his bag of
- 7:26Speaker 1: ways to score is bigger than Santa's bag. I mean, like,
- 7:31Speaker 1: he has not been efficient at all since then. Last
- 7:34Speaker 1: night was an absolutely horrible performance from Brandon Miller. Like,
- 7:39Speaker 1: I love the kid, man. I've stumped for him. I've
- 7:41Speaker 1: stand for him. You watch a game like last night,
- 7:45Speaker 1: it brings up a lot of damn questions. Two of
- 7:47Speaker 1: 15 from the floor, one of 10 from three. He
- 7:50Speaker 1: couldn't create anything. Bro, how many times in the second
- 7:53Speaker 1: half did they get him on a switch on Joe Wolfe?
- 7:57Speaker 1: And he isn't attacking Joe Wolfe.
- 7:59Speaker 3: Danny Wolfe.
- 8:00Speaker 1: Danny Wolf, whoever the hell the Wolf is, dude, I
- 8:02Speaker 1: don't care if it's Mr. Wolf from Raleigh. All right.
- 8:05Speaker 1: I don't give a damn what Wolf it was. It was,
- 8:09Speaker 1: it was a dude that they should have cleared the
- 8:11Speaker 1: F out and this $ 209 million man should have been
- 8:15Speaker 1: able to get a jumper off against. I mean, he
- 8:17Speaker 1: couldn't score over the top of Mikel Brown twice. I just,
- 8:22Speaker 1: it was infuriating. I've tried to tell people who have
- 8:26Speaker 1: been saying all season, oh, my God, the Lomelo trade
- 8:29Speaker 1: and this. I just– I'm not– I don't know if
- 8:32Speaker 1: I'm built for this, Bone. I don't know if I'm
- 8:34Speaker 1: built for this, man. This is horrible.
- 8:36Speaker 4: We knew that it may get off to a slow
- 8:38Speaker 4: start with injuries, with the change, but– For the offense
- 8:41Speaker 4: to look this bad, no matter who's in there in
- 8:44Speaker 4: this system, it's shocking. Mack, one of our Owens last night,
- 8:47Speaker 4: we've got multiple Owens on the Hornets beat, right?
- 8:50Speaker 3: We've got your Watterson. We've got your O'Connors. I'm not
- 8:53Speaker 3: trying to divide Owens here.
- 8:54Speaker 4: But Owen O'Connor, he's the Hornets writer for SI, friend
- 8:57Speaker 4: of the program, tweeted out last night, the Hornets offensive
- 9:01Speaker 4: rating right now is at the lowest point.
- 9:03Speaker 3: Since the 2014 season. And think about that for a second.
- 9:08Speaker 4: Think about the basketball and how bad it's gotten at
- 9:11Speaker 4: times since the 2014 season. And it's the lowest it's
- 9:15Speaker 4: been since right now. It's horrible.
- 9:17Speaker 3: It's the lowest it is right now.
- 9:18Speaker 1: And again, it's impossible not to think to what they
- 9:20Speaker 1: were in the second half last year offensively. and sit
- 9:23Speaker 1: here and rage or throw a pity party or cry.
- 9:27Speaker 1: And some of it's not their doing. Some of it's
- 9:31Speaker 1: just injuries and guys having to play bigger roles. A
- 9:34Speaker 1: guy that's frustrating me at times trying to carry more
- 9:37Speaker 1: weight offensively than he probably should is Nas Reid. but
- 9:40Speaker 1: I'll be damned if last night he didn't carry us
- 9:42Speaker 1: in the second half. I mean, they're playing through Nas
- 9:45Speaker 1: Reed and he is posting on the wing and hitting
- 9:48Speaker 1: turnaround jumpers and getting to the spot and jump hook
- 9:50Speaker 1: over and over again. But I'm here to tell you
- 9:53Speaker 1: that is not the role Nas Reed's supposed to be
- 9:54Speaker 1: playing on a basketball team. It's just not. And Grayson Allen,
- 9:59Speaker 1: I mean, if it isn't for his first half, Bone,
- 10:01Speaker 1: you know, we don't even lead probably at halftime. But
- 10:04Speaker 1: where was Grayson Allen in the second half? He has
- 10:06Speaker 1: two points. They can't get him the ball. They can't
- 10:08Speaker 1: get him looks. He got injured in the first half
- 10:10Speaker 1: for a minute. Everybody did. I was injured in the
- 10:15Speaker 1: first half for multiple minutes. I am emotionally injured. This
- 10:19Speaker 1: is tough to watch.
- 10:20Speaker 4: I got to say something. A texter right now, it's
- 10:23Speaker 4: not the day today. I will maul you. I will
- 10:25Speaker 4: rip your eyeballs out and send them to you. Hype C,
- 10:29Speaker 4: today's not the day, my friend.
- 10:30Speaker 1: Enough.
- 10:31Speaker 3: Enough Hype C. I will end you, Hype.
- 10:34Speaker 1: I will end you.
- 10:34Speaker 3: And I want to. I want to do it right now.
- 10:36Speaker 1: Why are you so mad at Hype C?
- 10:38Speaker 4: He said the only players that get injured in the
- 10:40Speaker 4: NBA are Duke players.
- 10:42Speaker 3: Dookie fifth. Kobe White just came back from UNC, you clown.
- 10:45Speaker 1: Who are we kidding? There's 700 players injured in the
- 10:47Speaker 1: NBA right now. That's the thing.
- 10:49Speaker 4: There are certain days where hype is funny. Right now,
- 10:51Speaker 4: I'm not in the mood for the giggles and the ha-has.
- 10:55Speaker 4: So take your giggles and your ha-has and shove them.
- 10:58Speaker 1: I will say this. I do want to acknowledge....
- 11:02Speaker 3: That everybody's injured in the NBA.
- 11:04Speaker 1: Like I, I don't want to act like it's just
- 11:05Speaker 1: us bone, like the entire league, it feels like is injured.
- 11:08Speaker 1: So I will acknowledge that, but it's just, it's, it's just,
- 11:13Speaker 1: it's tough, man. We had momentum last year and I know,
- 11:16Speaker 1: and I know, I know the Lomelo stuff's coming. I
- 11:18Speaker 1: know the Lomelo trade stuff's coming. And I understand it.
- 11:21Speaker 1: And I'm trying to keep on a good face and
- 11:24Speaker 1: realize that move was not made for the here and now.
- 11:26Speaker 1: It was made for the future. But it's just really
- 11:28Speaker 1: eyesore basketball to watch. It really is, man. And Dennis Schroeder,
- 11:33Speaker 1: when he airballed that damn layup last night, I'm telling
- 11:36Speaker 1: you right now, I just, and again, he was hurt
- 11:38Speaker 1: last night. He was, you know, playing through stuff. Nas Reed,
- 11:43Speaker 1: by the way, his ridiculously amazing game last night, it
- 11:46Speaker 1: was while injured.
- 11:48Speaker 4: He had some sort of back injury or something he
- 11:50Speaker 4: was battling through. So I give him credit for that.
- 11:52Speaker 4: I mean, Kobe got poked in his eye last night.
- 11:54Speaker 4: No foul call. No and one. Poked in the damn eye.
- 11:58Speaker 4: I was hoping that when he came back, he'd bring
- 12:00Speaker 4: Khan with him. Hey, go back there and get Khan
- 12:02Speaker 4: back out here. That didn't happen.
- 12:04Speaker 1: Is Kobe not in basketball shape? What's going on with him?
- 12:09Speaker 1: He played three minutes in the fourth quarter. He played
- 12:10Speaker 1: the first. He sat out, by the way, about the
- 12:12Speaker 1: last six or seven minutes of the third quarter, which took,
- 12:16Speaker 1: by the way, about seven hours. That's another thing, too.
- 12:20Speaker 1: It was just a miserable game to watch with all
- 12:21Speaker 1: the fouls and free throws. Like the referees and the
- 12:24Speaker 1: flow of the game and then the hacks that are
- 12:27Speaker 1: these nets like Mo Wagner. What a goon. What an
- 12:30Speaker 1: absolute no talent goon. Seriously. But anyway.
- 12:33Speaker 3: The hype C of the Brooklyn Nets.
- 12:36Speaker 1: I digress. What was I saying? I'm trying to say something.
- 12:39Speaker 4: If Kobe's not ready to go, do you really want
- 12:43Speaker 4: to bring him back and get ready within the games?
- 12:45Speaker 4: That doesn't make a lot of sense to me. If
- 12:46Speaker 4: he's not ready, he's not ready. It hurts the team
- 12:49Speaker 4: if he can't go in full. I understand restrictions, but
- 12:53Speaker 4: this is a whole other level of that where is
- 12:55Speaker 4: the guy ready to go or is he just getting
- 12:57Speaker 4: back to practice level?
- 12:58Speaker 1: He sat out the last six or seven minutes of
- 13:00Speaker 1: the third quarter and And he came in to start
- 13:03Speaker 1: the fourth quarter. And then he left three minutes later
- 13:05Speaker 1: and sat out the final nine minutes. He played 18 minutes.
- 13:08Speaker 1: It's just such extreme Uber restrictions. And you can see it.
- 13:11Speaker 1: He is not up to speed. He was two and
- 13:13Speaker 1: nine from the field. It's just, it's, it's hard. It's
- 13:16Speaker 1: a hard watch. It really is, man. Anyway.
- 13:21Speaker 5: Anyway.
- 13:22Speaker 1: Sunshine Sammy. Can Sunshine Sammy come in studio and do
- 13:26Speaker 1: like a therapy visit with me? Because it's hard to
- 13:29Speaker 1: see the sunshine right now. I'm surprised the team plane
- 13:32Speaker 1: didn't land in our parking lot out here. Oh, my God.
- 13:37Speaker 1: So anyway, it's a bit frustrating. And I'm pretty sure
- 13:40Speaker 1: y'all are seeing the same things. And I'm trying not
- 13:42Speaker 1: to do the whole thing about the Lomelo trade, but
- 13:45Speaker 1: y'all are going to. And I'm trying... to give some
- 13:50Speaker 1: grace to Brandon. But my God, man, like we need
- 13:54Speaker 1: more than two of 15 from the floor in situations
- 13:57Speaker 1: like that against the freaking Nets. I, I calculate at
- 14:01Speaker 1: one point he had missed his first seven shots.
- 14:02Speaker 3: I'm not sure when he actually made his first job.
- 14:04Speaker 1: Oh, of eight. Oh, of eight.
- 14:05Speaker 3: Yeah, it was right there.
- 14:06Speaker 4: Matt, can I give, I know this is dangerous. Can
- 14:09Speaker 4: I give a shout out to a team playing good
- 14:10Speaker 4: basketball in the city? That would be the Queens Royals,
- 14:14Speaker 4: who played the morning game against Winthrop on Monday, traveled
- 14:18Speaker 4: 3,000 miles to California, played Loyola Marymount last night, won
- 14:23Speaker 4: it at the very end, 96-95. And they're starting to
- 14:27Speaker 4: get some national run where people are saying, This Queens
- 14:30Speaker 4: team for their level and their conference is a loaded
- 14:33Speaker 4: up roster right now.
- 14:34Speaker 3: They are very good.
- 14:35Speaker 1: There you go. There you go, baby.
- 14:37Speaker 4: They got to see your man. He's at 23 a
- 14:39Speaker 4: game through the first two. They've got a freshman ball
- 14:42Speaker 4: and they've got a sophomore named Watford. Shout out to Queens, man.
- 14:45Speaker 4: They look like they're going to be a major factor
- 14:47Speaker 4: this year.
- 14:47Speaker 1: There you go. Coach Leonard and his sweaters, man. Good
- 14:50Speaker 1: start to the season for them. So I like to
- 14:52Speaker 1: see that. Tonight, you get to watch Duke play basketball, Bo.
- 14:55Speaker 3: Praise God.
- 14:56Speaker 1: You've got that going on. Duke Coastal, Wake Forest with
- 15:01Speaker 1: an interesting test against Vanderbilt. And Charlotte back in action,
- 15:05Speaker 1: their home opener for the season against Georgia State. How
- 15:09Speaker 1: about Charlotte pulling in that four-star, West Miller Portland, a
- 15:12Speaker 1: four-star top 150 recruit? That's that's pretty damn nice.
- 15:18Speaker 4: How many times in our time here have they had
- 15:20Speaker 4: a four star and a top 50 player going at
- 15:24Speaker 4: the same? I mean, I know it's not, but I'm
- 15:26Speaker 4: just saying West Mill already bringing in players that we've
- 15:29Speaker 4: not seen at that level for Charlotte in our time here.
- 15:32Speaker 3: In our time here.
- 15:34Speaker 1: Yes. He's doing work, man. He's doing work. So I'm
- 15:37Speaker 1: interested in watching them a little bit tonight as well.
- 15:40Speaker 1: We've got the Tillery Kid Bone is at 29 in
- 15:45Speaker 1: the opener. He looked really good against UNC in the exhibition.
- 15:49Speaker 1: He's playing so well that Charlotte fans are texting and saying,
- 15:52Speaker 1: I wonder what Big 12 or SEC school he will
- 15:54Speaker 1: play at next year. Shout out, AC was one of them.
- 15:57Speaker 1: It's like, but let's try to just enjoy him for
- 16:01Speaker 1: this season and put those thoughts out of our mind.
- 16:04Speaker 1: Thursday night football tonight, Bone. Jacksonville against Baltimore. Baltimore down
- 16:10Speaker 1: to their third string quarterback. The kid that I have
- 16:15Speaker 1: not seen, Bone, play football. I saw him play Sunday,
- 16:18Speaker 1: but the last time I saw him before that was
- 16:20Speaker 1: when he beat Duke last year. This Fignano kid.
- 16:24Speaker 5: Yeah.
- 16:26Speaker 1: I think the competition's a little tougher, though, in Duke's
- 16:28Speaker 1: defense last season, though, unfortunately.
- 16:30Speaker 4: I do remember that. We will have the Ravens next, right? No,
- 16:34Speaker 4: I've been screwing that up.
- 16:35Speaker 2: Oh, okay.
- 16:36Speaker 1: I've been screwing that up. We have the Saints next.
- 16:37Speaker 3: Saints next.
- 16:38Speaker 1: And then the Ravens is the week after that. I've
- 16:40Speaker 1: been screwing that up, and I've been screwing everybody else up.
- 16:42Speaker 4: But we will see Jacoby Brissett most likely during that
- 16:45Speaker 4: time period, as the Ravens are finalizing the deal for
- 16:48Speaker 4: Jacoby Brissett.
- 16:49Speaker 1: And we literally came up with that plan. Do you
- 16:52Speaker 1: think the Ravens have the studio bug, Boney? Because we
- 16:56Speaker 1: were literally saying when we found out Snoop Huntley's out
- 16:58Speaker 1: for the season, Lamar's on IR, that they need to
- 17:02Speaker 1: trade for a quarterback. And then Boney says, what about
- 17:06Speaker 1: Jacoby Brissett? Just got benched. And I said, yeah, final
- 17:10Speaker 1: year left on this deal. You just rent them. And
- 17:12Speaker 1: sure enough, the Ravens are renting them, Bo.
- 17:13Speaker 4: You know what people say about us, Matt, talking football?
- 17:15Speaker 5: What's that?
- 17:16Speaker 3: Good football show.
- 17:18Speaker 1: Because we know ball. Don't try to play us, kid.
- 17:21Speaker 3: Because I know ball.
- 17:23Speaker 4: Shout out to Willie, who we assume right now is
- 17:26Speaker 4: at Wegmans getting his day started.
- 17:29Speaker 1: Oh, daddy, yes.
- 17:30Speaker 4: When we come back, our first look at the Panthers
- 17:33Speaker 4: and Broncos injury reports. Mike Florio talks about his Bryce
- 17:38Speaker 4: contract report. And Mike Jack, if you missed it yesterday,
- 17:42Speaker 4: it's a can't-miss interview with the Panthers DB that we had.
- 17:45Speaker 1: What's the next?
- 17:45Speaker 3: Sports Radio, 92.7 WFNZ.
- 17:58Speaker 1: All right. Mac and Bone with you. A very curious
- 18:30Speaker 1: musical choice, Bone, by one DJ, Fitty Marlowe over there.
- 18:37Speaker 1: Is this some sort of secret, like, dedication? To your sweetheart, Fetty, Maddie?
- 18:43Speaker 1: Or to Sam Farber. Did you tell her? Did you
- 18:46Speaker 1: tell her, hey, listen, 625, play a little song for you, baby.
- 18:51Speaker 1: What is this all about, Fetty? No, you wanted some
- 18:54Speaker 1: sunshine on a cloudy day. Oh, okay, okay. All right.
- 18:58Speaker 1: I went and got a little temptations, Mac. Okay, I
- 19:00Speaker 1: thought we were now, Bone, doing romantic dedications over there.
- 19:04Speaker 1: What do you think I am, a simp? I think
- 19:06Speaker 1: you are a smitten kitten.
- 19:07Speaker 4: You're under fire, Finney, because it was noted on the
- 19:11Speaker 4: highly reviewed Hornets pregame show last night, Walker Mail. was
- 19:15Speaker 4: our guest, that you asked Walker last week or a
- 19:18Speaker 4: week and a half ago, whenever it was, to join
- 19:20Speaker 4: the bandwagon again for the Hornets, as you often do.
- 19:23Speaker 4: They have not won a game since you asked to join.
- 19:25Speaker 4: Five straight outs. You were leaving the Knicks. You were
- 19:27Speaker 4: going to join the Hornets in full. Now we realize
- 19:31Speaker 4: that you have no desire right now to join that bandwagon.
- 19:35Speaker 1: That's not true. I'd love to be a full-fledged Hornets fan.
- 19:39Speaker 1: He just completely clogged our Hornets toilet. I think Walker's right.
- 19:44Speaker 2: I think.
- 19:49Speaker 1: Walker's right. Phitty's bad news for the Hornets. You know
- 19:52Speaker 1: what I mean?
- 19:52Speaker 4: Panther Phitty's one thing. The text line is calling him
- 19:55Speaker 4: El Clago, by the way.
- 19:57Speaker 1: El Clago.
- 19:57Speaker 3: Which I believe translates to the clog.
- 20:00Speaker 1: Is there not a show, by the way, my name
- 20:01Speaker 1: doesn't come up on? I come up on the Wes
- 20:03Speaker 1: and Walker show all the time.
- 20:05Speaker 3: Because you enter the studio and you get on the
- 20:07Speaker 3: air a lot.
- 20:07Speaker 1: The station, baby. The station, Phitty. You know, Smoke will
- 20:10Speaker 1: bring me up with KB. I'm making Hornets pregame. There
- 20:14Speaker 1: is not a show where I'm not the topic of
- 20:16Speaker 1: the day.
- 20:16Speaker 4: You lawyer outside the window like Tampa Tammy does, and
- 20:19Speaker 4: if they bring up your name, you waddle in here.
- 20:22Speaker 1: Wanderer.
- 20:22Speaker 3: I shouldn't say waddle.
- 20:24Speaker 4: That's applying that you're not fit.
- 20:27Speaker 1: Of course he's fit. Anyway, you're the station, baby. You
- 20:31Speaker 1: are the station, man. You are the Nas Reed. What
- 20:33Speaker 1: would we do without Nas Reed last night? Without Grayson?
- 20:35Speaker 1: You're the Nas Reed or Grayson Allen of this operation.
- 20:37Speaker 3: You would have lost.
- 20:39Speaker 1: By a lot more. I can tell you that right now.
- 20:42Speaker 1: But anyway, all right, let's talk about the Panthers. We're
- 20:45Speaker 1: going to get to this Mike Jackson interview from yesterday
- 20:47Speaker 1: towards the end of the show. Want the 6 o'clockers
- 20:50Speaker 1: to hear it. It was definitely very interesting. And you'll
- 20:53Speaker 1: hear him talk about maybe when we can expect him
- 20:55Speaker 1: back on the field. But let's start first with Mike
- 21:00Speaker 1: Florio's report from yesterday. It broke during our show, became
- 21:04Speaker 1: a big conversation on the air. Florio reporting that he
- 21:08Speaker 1: is hearing chatter that the Panthers and Bryce are far
- 21:12Speaker 1: down the road towards... a uh 50 million dollar plus
- 21:16Speaker 1: per year contract extension for Bryce yesterday on his pro
- 21:21Speaker 1: football talk uh show with Chris Sims they both talked
- 21:26Speaker 1: about Florio's intel here.
- 21:28Speaker 7: Bryce Young who was the first pick in 2023 and
- 21:31Speaker 7: who like CJ Stroud is still waiting for a new
- 21:34Speaker 7: contract I caught wind yesterday that they're pretty far down
- 21:37Speaker 7: the road on getting a deal done To keep Bryce
- 21:40Speaker 7: Young in Carolina, which is kind of surprising. When you
- 21:43Speaker 7: look at his passer rating, he's just above Kyler Murray.
- 21:46Speaker 7: But they're happy with him. They benched him. They brought
- 21:48Speaker 7: him back. And I heard the number is going to
- 21:51Speaker 7: be north of 50. And that would be fair. Don't
- 21:54Speaker 7: be afraid of hearing $ 50 million anymore, folks. The cap
- 21:57Speaker 7: keeps going up. The owners keep making more money. The
- 22:00Speaker 7: market has gone up. There's like 12 guys making $ 50 million.
- 22:03Speaker 1: Or more right now.
- 22:04Speaker 2: Yeah, you're exactly right.
- 22:05Speaker 5: That's right.
- 22:06Speaker 2: And they feel that the play from Bryce Young there
- 22:09Speaker 2: from last year to this year has been good enough.
- 22:12Speaker 2: So good for them that they feel that way.
- 22:15Speaker 1: You know me.
- 22:15Speaker 2: I don't know if I would be able to throw
- 22:17Speaker 2: that money at a Bryce Young, but it's been good play.
- 22:21Speaker 2: He knows how to play the position. Certainly, maybe early
- 22:25Speaker 2: in his career, don't look at them and him now
- 22:27Speaker 2: and go, oh, he's kind of the downfall of the team. No,
- 22:30Speaker 2: he does a lot of good stuff. He still needs
- 22:32Speaker 2: support around him. He's not a bigger guy like we
- 22:34Speaker 2: saw in Green Bay. There can be moments of, eh,
- 22:38Speaker 2: but regardless, yeah, I can understand why they feel like
- 22:41Speaker 2: he's the guy going forward.
- 22:42Speaker 4: We take that from Chris Sims, right? He threw in
- 22:45Speaker 4: a couple of things where he mentioned he doesn't really
- 22:47Speaker 4: like him all that much. But I feel like on
- 22:49Speaker 4: the Sims level of annoyance, that wasn't as.
- 22:52Speaker 3: High as usual.
- 22:53Speaker 1: No, that was fairly positive from Chris Sims and Florio.
- 22:58Speaker 1: Both those guys have... Florio's been kind of the Robin
- 23:01Speaker 1: the Sims Batman in this battle versus the Panthers and
- 23:04Speaker 1: their social media team and everything. I was just glad
- 23:07Speaker 1: Chris Sims didn't work in a... wussy wussy wussy wussy wussy.
- 23:11Speaker 4: Cats i couldn't take another one of those not on
- 23:13Speaker 4: a day where i feel like we've already got a
- 23:15Speaker 4: little bit of uh a little bit of sports angst
- 23:19Speaker 4: here this morning we're one wussy away from from an
- 23:22Speaker 4: old snapperoo.
- 23:23Speaker 1: 704 704 number says mac the panthers and hornets are
- 23:28Speaker 1: pissing us off it feels like the the good old.
- 23:31Speaker 4: Days Now, to his point there about what $ 50 million
- 23:35Speaker 4: is now. So, Mac, if Bryce goes for 50-plus now,
- 23:39Speaker 4: it'll put him in a certain area of money, obviously,
- 23:42Speaker 4: and we'll discuss who he's with with those quarterbacks. But
- 23:44Speaker 4: how long, Mac, until the number becomes all these quarterbacks
- 23:49Speaker 4: getting $ 60 million, $ 65 million? How long until Bryce just
- 23:52Speaker 4: trends down to where he's like the 20th highest-paid quarterback
- 23:55Speaker 4: in the league?
- 23:55Speaker 5: Yeah.
- 23:56Speaker 4: Two years from now, when all these young quarterbacks sign
- 23:59Speaker 4: and the next group signs and all these guys sign
- 24:01Speaker 4: their deals, it's not about where you are today, per se.
- 24:05Speaker 4: It's about during the contract where you will end up.
- 24:08Speaker 4: So don't necessarily look at where Bryce ranks today with quarterbacks.
- 24:11Speaker 4: It's where he's going to be when all these other
- 24:13Speaker 4: contracts get signed as well.
- 24:14Speaker 1: And the way they're talking, like if it's just literally 50, that's,
- 24:19Speaker 1: I mean, we talked about it yesterday. Jalen Hurts is
- 24:21Speaker 1: at 51. If he literally gets $ 50 million per, he's
- 24:25Speaker 1: the 14th highest paid quarterback. And then to your point,
- 24:29Speaker 1: in two years, what will he be? 18th 19th something
- 24:32Speaker 1: like that florio brought up the salary cap is increasing
- 24:36Speaker 1: constantly as the owners just continue to load their pockets
- 24:40Speaker 1: with money so yeah i don't think we need to
- 24:43Speaker 1: get sticker shock over the 50 million but that will
- 24:46Speaker 1: not stop some fans from getting sticker shock over the
- 24:48Speaker 1: 50 million i know you know you're not paying it
- 24:50Speaker 1: what do you care but the cap bone but the
- 24:53Speaker 1: cap Um, uh, anyway, I, you, and as far as, Hey, Bryce,
- 24:58Speaker 1: these get offensive line, you go draft them first and
- 25:00Speaker 1: second round next year. You literally just go first round
- 25:02Speaker 1: tackle again. And you go first round guard. I like that.
- 25:06Speaker 1: That's to me, it's that important, the offensive line. Um, uh,
- 25:11Speaker 1: but I'm cool with it because to me, it beats
- 25:13Speaker 1: the alternative going back in the quarterback, um, queue. Because
- 25:17Speaker 1: that is a miserable place to be. And some teams, Bone,
- 25:20Speaker 1: don't get out of it for freaking years.
- 25:22Speaker 4: And that would feel like the progress that we thought
- 25:25Speaker 4: we were making, step back to now we're trying to
- 25:28Speaker 4: figure it out again. You want to build with Price,
- 25:30Speaker 4: figure out how to make things better for him, rather
- 25:33Speaker 4: than go back into, I wrote down a word, Mac,
- 25:35Speaker 4: for that quarterback cycle.
- 25:37Speaker 1: Pure hell, actually.
- 25:38Speaker 5: Yeah.
- 25:39Speaker 4: We don't want to go back to pure hell.
- 25:41Speaker 1: 704 number says, Mac, are we now just conceding that
- 25:43Speaker 1: the progress we thought the Panthers and the Hornets were
- 25:46Speaker 1: making has now been canceled until further notice? I don't know, man.
- 25:52Speaker 1: I don't know. My stomach hurts. I mean, we'll see.
- 25:55Speaker 1: Let's see how the Panthers do. Todd Walsh at D.C.
- 25:57Speaker 1: We'll see when and this will lead us to our
- 26:00Speaker 1: conversation with Mike Jack. We'll see when Mike Jack and
- 26:02Speaker 1: Horn get back, when Jalen Phillips gets back. Let's we're
- 26:06Speaker 1: still in the NFC South. Let's let's see. Let's let
- 26:08Speaker 1: things play out. But to act like that's not a
- 26:11Speaker 1: legit concern on both fronts. Obviously. Obviously it is, man.
- 26:15Speaker 4: It's almost like there could be a topic back at
- 26:17Speaker 4: some point of who do you have more concerns with
- 26:18Speaker 4: right now, the Panthers or the Hornets?
- 26:20Speaker 3: Oh, jeez.
- 26:21Speaker 1: Are we talking Panthers or the Hornets? All right. Let's
- 26:25Speaker 1: do the injury report real quick here. Just simply, Panthers
- 26:28Speaker 1: didn't practice yesterday. They're doing this thing they did off
- 26:30Speaker 1: the bye where they practice Monday and Tuesday and have
- 26:34Speaker 1: the Wednesday off day instead of the normal Tuesday off day.
- 26:38Speaker 1: So yesterday's injury report is just a projected injury report.
- 26:42Speaker 1: Jalen Phillips, Damian Lewis, Bobby Okereke with a foot injury,
- 26:46Speaker 1: and Will Lee all listed as not practicing. So this
- 26:50Speaker 1: will be A big couple of days for those four gentlemen,
- 26:53Speaker 1: no doubt about it. Needs to be mentioned on the
- 26:56Speaker 1: Denver side, they might be getting Pat Bryant, one of
- 26:59Speaker 1: their wide receivers, back from IR. He practiced in full
- 27:03Speaker 1: after being designated to return. Fellow wide receiver Jalen Waddell
- 27:07Speaker 1: was a full participant with a chest injury. Hafonga, their
- 27:11Speaker 1: safety is probably the best concern. player, might be the
- 27:15Speaker 1: only starter bone that is a DNP for them. So
- 27:19Speaker 1: they seem healthier than us, and they seem slightly hotter
- 27:22Speaker 1: than us, having won four in a row.
- 27:23Speaker 4: Because their secondary guys were out for a while, but
- 27:26Speaker 4: of course they have come back now. Sertan has come back, so.
- 27:31Speaker 1: Sometimes it's a matter about when you get a team.
- 27:33Speaker 4: We got Philadelphia when they were all types of banged
- 27:35Speaker 4: up as they've been, but Denver feels like they're relatively
- 27:39Speaker 4: a whole lot healthier compared to what they were a
- 27:40Speaker 4: couple weeks ago.
- 27:41Speaker 1: Yeah, defense is playing better after a rough start by
- 27:44Speaker 1: their high standards. And even Bo Nix has looked pretty
- 27:48Speaker 1: darn good the last couple of games, especially fourth quarter.
- 27:51Speaker 4: And Sean Payton looks extra punchable with that big Waffle
- 27:54Speaker 4: House menu that he reads off.
- 27:55Speaker 1: He does.
- 27:56Speaker 3: I like to grab that thing and hit him over.
- 27:58Speaker 1: The head with it.
- 27:58Speaker 4: He's built to hold that giant menu, though, and he
- 28:00Speaker 4: didn't look the same without holding that menu for a while.
- 28:02Speaker 4: And by the way, what a sham that was. Yeah,
- 28:04Speaker 4: we want Davis Webb to call the play. He took
- 28:05Speaker 4: that back so quick. He knew what he was doing.
- 28:07Speaker 4: He basically saved the guy on his staff to give
- 28:10Speaker 4: him a job and then took it back.
- 28:12Speaker 1: It seems pretty low.
- 28:13Speaker 5: A weasel move.
- 28:14Speaker 1: But, yeah, it tracks. It definitely tracks. All right, let's
- 28:19Speaker 1: let you hear Mike Jackson, our conversation yesterday with the
- 28:22Speaker 1: Panthers corner in studio. How do we start this? Finney,
- 28:27Speaker 1: toss to the interview. How do we start this interview?
- 28:29Speaker 1: Let everybody know.
- 28:29Speaker 6: Yeah, it's him talking about the frustrations he has while
- 28:33Speaker 6: being injured and seeing the defense struggle.
- 28:37Speaker 8: That's frustrating because you want to be out there with
- 28:39Speaker 8: your guys. And a lot of people don't know, like,
- 28:43Speaker 8: when you get hurt and you go to IR, now
- 28:45Speaker 8: you're on a completely different schedule. So, like, the first
- 28:49Speaker 8: couple weeks, you're not in me's. You're just rehabbing, going home.
- 28:52Speaker 8: So it's guys you might not see for, like, three,
- 28:54Speaker 8: four weeks. And y'all work in the same building, but
- 28:57Speaker 8: y'all in and out at different times. So it's just
- 29:00Speaker 8: nice to be back around the guys. and have a
- 29:03Speaker 8: chance to just get back out there and compete, because
- 29:06Speaker 8: it's like, right now, like, only compete I'm doing is
- 29:09Speaker 8: with my son playing video games.
- 29:11Speaker 5: And, like, we be in the house, like, wrestling, and
- 29:13Speaker 5: it's like.
- 29:15Speaker 8: like i hit him one time like i kind of
- 29:17Speaker 8: hit you a little too hard right there.
- 29:18Speaker 1: You got you got all that pent up i'm like
- 29:22Speaker 1: man you gotta understand like daddy ain't played football in
- 29:25Speaker 1: a little minute like.
- 29:27Speaker 4: How old's your how old's your son and what's the
- 29:30Speaker 4: what's the go-to video game right now.
- 29:31Speaker 8: Uh he's eight so right now we're playing 2k uh
- 29:36Speaker 8: madden and we play college.
- 29:38Speaker 1: Oh nice nice this is good ones there we're talking
- 29:41Speaker 1: with mike jackson in studio um uh we're going to
- 29:44Speaker 1: tell you all about this awesome uh holiday event they've
- 29:48Speaker 1: got going on a thanksgiving drive-thru giveaway uh here in
- 29:51Speaker 1: charlotte on saturday i'm gonna tell you all about that
- 29:54Speaker 1: um Have you been, because a lot of young guys, man,
- 29:57Speaker 1: with you and JC at the same time, that is
- 29:59Speaker 1: the killer. A lot of the young guys thrown in,
- 30:02Speaker 1: you know, just thrown into the wolves, right? Will Lee,
- 30:05Speaker 1: the Rook, Caleb Evans, and now he's on IR with
- 30:08Speaker 1: you guys. Marco Wilson found his way out there. Have you, like,
- 30:12Speaker 1: even though you're not around as much, have you, like,
- 30:14Speaker 1: been texting? Like, do you try to, you know, give
- 30:17Speaker 1: them advice.
- 30:18Speaker 5: Or not really?
- 30:19Speaker 8: Yeah, like, the first week I went out, we played Detroit.
- 30:25Speaker 8: And so every year before the year, like in the summertime,
- 30:29Speaker 8: all the top receivers, I have notes on them. So
- 30:32Speaker 8: like I gave Willie my notes and I'm like, bro,
- 30:35Speaker 8: don't ever question if I like you. Don't ever like,
- 30:38Speaker 8: I'm giving you my notes. That took me like hours
- 30:41Speaker 8: to do. So, and it's just like little simple stuff,
- 30:43Speaker 8: like break it down to where it's real easy to like,
- 30:50Speaker 8: to see. So if one of them was just example,
- 30:52Speaker 8: like Amon St. Brown, He moves and runs just like
- 30:56Speaker 8: David Moore on our team.
- 30:58Speaker 5: Interesting.
- 30:58Speaker 8: Yeah, so it's like stuff that you wouldn't expect. And, like,
- 31:03Speaker 8: I gave it to him, and when he went out there,
- 31:05Speaker 8: he was just like, bro, you weren't lying. Like, they
- 31:07Speaker 8: moved the exact same.
- 31:09Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 31:09Speaker 8: But people wouldn't think that because they're like, Well, no,
- 31:11Speaker 8: he's this player and he's that.
- 31:13Speaker 1: I would never make an observation. Yeah, but it's like.
- 31:16Speaker 3: That's great leadership, too.
- 31:17Speaker 5: Yeah, it's just body type.
- 31:19Speaker 1: Do you, let me, do you, okay, so are your
- 31:22Speaker 1: notes just like as you're watching them in game week
- 31:26Speaker 1: and you just save them? Or are you like spending
- 31:28Speaker 1: off-season time on them?
- 31:29Speaker 5: Oh, no, this is off-season. Like last year, St. Brown had.
- 31:32Speaker 2: Wow.
- 31:32Speaker 8: 164 targets, or 72, one of them.
- 31:37Speaker 5: Yeah. Yeah, so it's like, I go through and watch
- 31:40Speaker 5: all the targets.
- 31:41Speaker 1: So you know who, so when you know who you're
- 31:42Speaker 1: playing the next year, you just then.
- 31:45Speaker 8: Yeah, I just go through, watch all, like, him, J-Mo, like, everybody,
- 31:50Speaker 8: and it's like, I try to, so I watch the notes,
- 31:53Speaker 8: I mean, I watch the film, see how teams is
- 31:55Speaker 8: using them, and then when it's game week, see.
- 31:57Speaker 5: Is that still true.
- 31:59Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 31:59Speaker 5: Because, like, for.
- 32:01Speaker 8: It was one team we were playing and he wanted
- 32:05Speaker 8: me to give the notes, but I'm like, bro, I
- 32:06Speaker 8: don't want to give you the notes because I don't
- 32:08Speaker 8: know if they still running this. And I don't want
- 32:10Speaker 8: you to be out there banking on this.
- 32:12Speaker 5: And it ain't that.
- 32:14Speaker 8: So I was like, just watch the film and just
- 32:16Speaker 8: play what you see this week. Cause it was like, uh,
- 32:20Speaker 8: they had changed officer coordinators.
- 32:21Speaker 1: Okay.
- 32:22Speaker 8: So I was like, I'm not even gonna set you
- 32:23Speaker 8: up like that.
- 32:24Speaker 5: Like, nah.
- 32:24Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 32:25Speaker 1: That's some great behind the scenes.
- 32:26Speaker 3: That's awesome.
- 32:27Speaker 4: When did you start with the notes? Is that within
- 32:29Speaker 4: the league or in college? Like when did this?
- 32:32Speaker 8: Like, um, so guys, everybody has like favorite moves. Everybody
- 32:37Speaker 8: has certain things they like to do. So it's like,
- 32:40Speaker 8: you just take the time, sit and watch.
- 32:43Speaker 5: Like, you don't know.
- 32:44Speaker 8: So I probably started OTAs. I try to give myself
- 32:49Speaker 8: a solid, like, two months. Two, two and a half
- 32:53Speaker 8: months just to watch it because there's going to be
- 32:55Speaker 8: days where I don't feel like watching film.
- 32:58Speaker 5: That way I don't feel like I have to watch
- 33:00Speaker 5: it today.
- 33:01Speaker 8: Like, just spend a couple, because we talking, like, I
- 33:05Speaker 8: think it was Jamar Chase. Dude, I had almost like
- 33:09Speaker 8: 200 targets last year. He was like 192 or something.
- 33:12Speaker 1: That's plenty of film to watch.
- 33:13Speaker 5: That's what I'm saying. That's a lot to watch.
- 33:16Speaker 1: I'd throw to him 200 times if he was my guy.
- 33:18Speaker 4: When I hear that, that's almost like you're a player
- 33:21Speaker 4: with a coach mentality. You've got a long way to go,
- 33:25Speaker 4: but is that something you have interest in when you're
- 33:27Speaker 4: done playing? Because that feels like a coach mind right there.
- 33:30Speaker 8: I feel like I told my wife that once I'm
- 33:34Speaker 8: done playing, I'll coach high school. I don't want to
- 33:37Speaker 8: coach college and NFL because then it's kind of like
- 33:41Speaker 8: now I'm back into that schedule.
- 33:43Speaker 5: The grind. Yeah, I'm away from my kids.
- 33:46Speaker 1: Yeah, that makes sense.
- 33:47Speaker 8: I don't want to be into it that much, but
- 33:49Speaker 8: I know I'm going to have that itch.
- 33:51Speaker 1: Yeah, that makes sense. Mike Jackson's hanging out with us
- 33:53Speaker 1: here in studio of your Carolina Panthers. Says hopes to
- 33:56Speaker 1: be back here in the next couple weeks. Not this week,
- 33:58Speaker 1: but hopefully in the next couple weeks. That's great news.
- 34:01Speaker 1: Bad news, though, for you guys on defense is Zero
- 34:05Speaker 1: of Arrow getting fired. Jonathan Cooley, too, who I know
- 34:08Speaker 1: you're real tight with as well. How did that hit you?
- 34:12Speaker 1: I mean, because for you, I know like Derrick Brown
- 34:14Speaker 1: said yesterday, it kills him because it's like, I was
- 34:19Speaker 1: part of that happening. You know what I mean? Like,
- 34:20Speaker 1: what could I have done? For you, it probably hit
- 34:23Speaker 1: you like, there's nothing I could have done. I'm injured. Like,
- 34:26Speaker 1: I couldn't help him. How did that hit you?
- 34:28Speaker 5: It hit me because I was just like, Mike, you
- 34:31Speaker 5: don't get hurt. Like, this is.
- 34:34Speaker 8: This is honestly the first time in my life I've
- 34:36Speaker 8: ever been actually injured.
- 34:38Speaker 5: You feel me?
- 34:39Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 34:39Speaker 8: So for me, it was kind of like, wherever you
- 34:42Speaker 8: was out there, not saying it wouldn't happen, but like
- 34:45Speaker 8: the chances might have been a little different. So that
- 34:49Speaker 8: and then me and Cooley like tight, like he didn't
- 34:52Speaker 8: change my game.
- 34:53Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 34:54Speaker 5: But at the same time, it's a business.
- 34:56Speaker 8: And I always say like, I've learned whatever somebody teach you,
- 35:01Speaker 8: absorb it because you're gonna have to use it before
- 35:03Speaker 8: you think you have to use it so all the
- 35:06Speaker 8: little tips on how to watch film how to play
- 35:09Speaker 8: certain receivers like i have to use that now you
- 35:13Speaker 8: feel me because he's not in the building yeah so
- 35:15Speaker 8: it's basically like i feel like everybody you just got
- 35:18Speaker 8: to readjust yourself and like understand like It's messed up,
- 35:23Speaker 8: but we still got to go get the job done.
- 35:25Speaker 5: Yeah.
- 35:26Speaker 4: What's Todd Walsh like? It feels like this guy has
- 35:28Speaker 4: some fire from what we understand.
- 35:30Speaker 8: Yeah, he's a typical D-line coach. Like, that's the best
- 35:34Speaker 8: way to put it. Like, typical D-line coach. He just
- 35:36Speaker 8: wants you to go out there, play hard, play fast, and, like,
- 35:39Speaker 8: have fun.
- 35:39Speaker 1: Do you have a relationship with D'Angelo Hall? Because were
- 35:42Speaker 1: you here when he– Yeah, I was, yeah.
- 35:44Speaker 8: Yeah, okay.
- 35:44Speaker 1: You had some crossover.
- 35:45Speaker 5: Yeah.
- 35:46Speaker 1: Is he a guy you're kind of looking forward to
- 35:48Speaker 1: working with?
- 35:49Speaker 5: Yeah.
- 35:49Speaker 1: Is he different? He was intense as heck when he played.
- 35:51Speaker 5: Yeah, like D. Hall– first off, it's D.
- 35:54Speaker 3: Hall.
- 35:55Speaker 8: Like, can't even talk about the coach D. Hall without
- 35:59Speaker 8: saying the player he was.
- 36:00Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah.
- 36:00Speaker 5: Like, dude caught five– what, four picks in a game? Yeah,
- 36:04Speaker 5: he did.
- 36:04Speaker 8: Jay Cutler, like– So for me, it's kind of like
- 36:08Speaker 8: I have, in my mind, a Hall of Famer in
- 36:10Speaker 8: the room. Like, you look at his numbers, he has
- 36:14Speaker 8: a chance to get in. So that's just going to
- 36:17Speaker 8: be dope. And his biggest thing is, like, man, go
- 36:20Speaker 8: out there and have fun.
- 36:21Speaker 5: Like, make plays.
- 36:23Speaker 8: Like, you know, you watch a film and you read
- 36:27Speaker 8: your keys and all that. But on Sunday, like, you're
- 36:29Speaker 8: the best player in the world. Like, I even stole
- 36:32Speaker 8: his celebration, like how he run to the end zone and, like,
- 36:35Speaker 8: look up to the sky.
- 36:36Speaker 1: Oh, yeah.
- 36:36Speaker 5: Yeah, I definitely took that one from him.
- 36:38Speaker 1: So you'll be glad to work with him, even though
- 36:40Speaker 1: you're sad Cooley's gone.
- 36:41Speaker 4: Everybody's taking JC's celebration now, all the college kids. Everybody's
- 36:45Speaker 4: got his– Yeah, I'm like– Everybody's seatbelting.
- 36:47Speaker 8: I said, it's kind of getting watered down now. Like,
- 36:49Speaker 8: you got D-Lon doing it. Like, I get it. I seen, like,
- 36:57Speaker 8: you know how– the quarterback would throw the ball and
- 37:00Speaker 8: get tipped at the line of spares. And, like, a
- 37:01Speaker 8: line man, an offensive line man would come and knock
- 37:03Speaker 8: the ball down. I seen one of them do it.
- 37:05Speaker 1: Oh, that's shameless.
- 37:07Speaker 5: That's sad. J.C.
- 37:08Speaker 1: Got worked up earlier this year because he saw someone
- 37:10Speaker 1: not doing it right.
- 37:11Speaker 3: He didn't like the.
- 37:12Speaker 1: Way they were.
- 37:12Speaker 5: Yeah.
- 37:14Speaker 8: I'm like, that ain't me. I guess I'm old school.
- 37:17Speaker 8: You're not going to see me do that.
- 37:21Speaker 1: Oh, man. Real quick, because I know we've got to
- 37:23Speaker 1: spend some time talking about– what you're doing at what's
- 37:26Speaker 1: next ministry on Saturday, which is freaking awesome. I wanted
- 37:29Speaker 1: to ask you about the scheme because like you've, and
- 37:34Speaker 1: you've heard this noise, I'm sure been asked by the
- 37:35Speaker 1: media about it, but the fans have re were, were,
- 37:39Speaker 1: had really nitpicked DeVero's scheme. And again, we don't really,
- 37:43Speaker 1: I don't know how much we know what we're talking about.
- 37:45Speaker 1: But they'll bring up things like, oh, those soft zones
- 37:49Speaker 1: or why are the corners? It's third and four and
- 37:52Speaker 1: the corners are giving big cushions. Like, do you understand? Like,
- 37:56Speaker 1: were there some things there that, I mean, do these
- 37:58Speaker 1: things kind of get to you too? Or do you
- 38:00Speaker 1: think fans just don't kind of understand maybe?
- 38:03Speaker 8: Like, I feel like everybody different. So, like, when I
- 38:07Speaker 8: come back, you're still going to see me playing off.
- 38:09Speaker 8: Because I caught five picks playing off.
- 38:11Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 38:11Speaker 5: So with playing off.
- 38:13Speaker 8: You do have to understand, like you got to be
- 38:16Speaker 8: more situationally aware. Like if it's third and four and
- 38:19Speaker 8: I'm off, I'm probably going to be off at like
- 38:21Speaker 8: six or seven and I'm going to be flat footed.
- 38:24Speaker 8: And most of the time, quick game, you're going to
- 38:26Speaker 8: get stick where number two goes to the flat, number
- 38:28Speaker 8: one runs like.
- 38:28Speaker 5: A five yard hit.
- 38:29Speaker 1: Yeah.
- 38:30Speaker 8: But how one runs the hitch, he kind of like
- 38:34Speaker 8: stems in and then goes and then sits. But, like,
- 38:39Speaker 8: there's no other route in the whole route tree where
- 38:42Speaker 8: number one stems, and there's a cut split, and he
- 38:44Speaker 8: stems in within, like, the first two yards of the
- 38:47Speaker 8: line of scrimmage.
- 38:48Speaker 2: Yeah.
- 38:49Speaker 5: So that's my key, like, you finna sit down.
- 38:51Speaker 8: But some guys can see that, some guys can't. Like,
- 38:54Speaker 8: I learned that from Gilmore when I was in New England.
- 38:56Speaker 1: So you feel like I can read it if it's
- 38:59Speaker 1: in front of me and I can get to it
- 39:00Speaker 1: quick enough.
- 39:00Speaker 5: I can get to it.
- 39:01Speaker 8: Like, it was a play I made against Buffalo. The
- 39:04Speaker 8: same exact route. It might have been second and ten, but... Still, like,
- 39:09Speaker 8: I know I can get there. So I feel like
- 39:11Speaker 8: the illusion is, like, go up and press, which don't
- 39:16Speaker 8: get me wrong, you can. Like, there's nothing wrong with
- 39:18Speaker 8: going up and putting hands on guys. But at the
- 39:21Speaker 8: same time, you have guys like Brent Grimes, who was
- 39:24Speaker 8: a baller. Regardless, pressed off, he was a baller, and
- 39:29Speaker 8: he was out there getting the ball, because that's the
- 39:31Speaker 8: whole name of the game.
- 39:32Speaker 3: We want the ball.
- 39:34Speaker 5: If you can get the ball being pressed, cool. If
- 39:36Speaker 5: you can get it being off, cool.
- 39:38Speaker 1: Is it your choice, or does a coordinator tell you situationally,
- 39:43Speaker 1: or is it what you're comfortable with? How does that work?
- 39:45Speaker 8: One, it depends on where you're at. So you have
- 39:49Speaker 8: some teams where we want you to press. But then
- 39:52Speaker 8: you have some teams where it's like, okay, if it's
- 39:56Speaker 8: third and 10, you don't really have to press. You
- 39:59Speaker 8: don't have to unless you want to. Some guys, it
- 40:02Speaker 8: can be third and 25. And they want to get
- 40:04Speaker 8: up in the game.
- 40:04Speaker 5: There's nothing wrong with that.
- 40:06Speaker 8: But then you have just how in y'all business, you
- 40:11Speaker 8: have to earn trust and earn respect. You have to
- 40:14Speaker 8: do that with certain people and They allow you to
- 40:17Speaker 8: play how you want to play it, as long as
- 40:19Speaker 8: you make the play.
- 40:20Speaker 1: There you go. That is Mike Jackson. Interesting, informative stuff.
- 40:25Speaker 1: I even messed up Bone, who they play next week,
- 40:27Speaker 1: when asking Mike Evans about his injury status. But it
- 40:31Speaker 1: does seem like there's a chance. It's the Saints, not
- 40:33Speaker 1: the Ravens, Mac, you dummy. But it does seem like
- 40:36Speaker 1: there is a chance for next week that he could
- 40:39Speaker 1: come back.
- 40:40Speaker 5: Yes.
- 40:41Speaker 3: Said Mike Evans.
- 40:42Speaker 1: Mike Jackson. They play the Saints. The player's name is
- 40:46Speaker 1: Mike Jackson. Clean up all the aisles you want. Clean
- 40:51Speaker 1: them all up.
- 40:52Speaker 4: All right, we come back here on the Mac and
- 40:54Speaker 4: Bone Radio. We're just here to help out. We come back.
- 40:57Speaker 4: You're doing too much. I'm doing too much, apparently. A
- 41:00Speaker 4: segment that features people that are just simply doing too
- 41:02Speaker 4: much or even, in some cases, maybe not enough.
- 41:05Speaker 3: Sports Radio 92.7 WFNZ. I eat too much.
- 41:07Speaker 1: I drink too much.
- 41:09Speaker 3: I want too much.
- 41:26Speaker 1: Sports Radio 92.7 WFNZ. Who is doing too much? We're
- 41:30Speaker 1: going to tell you in a second. Can I nominate
- 41:33Speaker 1: Gas House Earl as maybe doing too much this.
- 41:35Speaker 8: Morning, Bo?
- 41:35Speaker 3: He's normally on that list. I haven't really seen what
- 41:38Speaker 3: he's up to today.
- 41:39Speaker 1: And listen, full disclosure, Gas House Earl has provided a
- 41:43Speaker 1: fine service to this radio show. I did not hear
- 41:46Speaker 1: Mike K's interview with KB. He alerted me to it.
- 41:49Speaker 1: We've gone back. We've listened to it. And he is right.
- 41:53Speaker 1: Mike K, without like calling out Florio by name or
- 41:57Speaker 1: saying Florio's report is BS, was kind of asked about
- 42:02Speaker 1: it by KB yesterday. And Mike K is essentially saying
- 42:05Speaker 1: that I haven't heard anything about any movement on the contract.
- 42:11Speaker 1: So let's throw that out there into the Panther world.
- 42:16Speaker 1: Whereas Florio says, hey, I got a source saying they're
- 42:19Speaker 1: working towards something. Mike K says, I haven't really heard
- 42:22Speaker 1: anything about that. Hey, Gas House Earl, you listen every day.
- 42:25Speaker 1: You realize that it's not our report, right? That we
- 42:28Speaker 1: yesterday were reading the report of a guy in the know,
- 42:32Speaker 1: and Mike K.
- 42:32Speaker 4: Very much is, too. Yeah, he wants us— We were
- 42:34Speaker 4: reading the report. Don't act like it was our report
- 42:37Speaker 4: that we had. We were passing along what Florio said.
- 42:40Speaker 4: So it wasn't like Mack and Bone reporting this. I
- 42:42Speaker 4: know how you think, Earl, and I don't like it.
- 42:44Speaker 4: I think the way Earl thinks, first of all, it
- 42:47Speaker 4: is just real serious. In all seriousness, it's good info
- 42:50Speaker 4: for us. But Earl is continuing, like he's very, very
- 42:56Speaker 4: aggressive about this.
- 42:58Speaker 1: And what I think is, I think Earl wants to
- 43:00Speaker 1: believe the Mike Kay report and not believe the Florio report.
- 43:03Speaker 1: I think Earl doesn't want there to be any contract
- 43:06Speaker 1: talks right now. So I think he is very much
- 43:09Speaker 1: hoping that Mike Kay is correct. And Mike Kay's locked in, obviously,
- 43:14Speaker 1: with the organization. So anyway, you've got those two different
- 43:17Speaker 1: reports out there. We will watch the Panthers, and we
- 43:20Speaker 1: will watch things play out. Yes, sir.
- 43:23Speaker 4: Thank you for your service, Gas House Earl. That is
- 43:26Speaker 4: the first you're doing too much of the day is
- 43:27Speaker 4: Gas House Earl.
- 43:28Speaker 1: There you go. There you go. Who are you throwing
- 43:31Speaker 1: in there, Bone? Who's doing too much right now? Mac,
- 43:33Speaker 1: are you familiar with the work of one Carl Bushby?
- 43:37Speaker 1: Not really. Of England? Well, I've got the news for you, Mr. Bush.
- 43:41Speaker 4: He has probably done a little too much walking because
- 43:44Speaker 4: in 1998, he took a flight to Chile and he
- 43:49Speaker 4: decided he was going to walk around the world with
- 43:51Speaker 4: no help. No motors. No form to transportation. Mackie walked
- 43:55Speaker 4: around the world and just came home this past weekend
- 43:58Speaker 4: to his family for the first time since 1998.
- 44:01Speaker 1: That's nice of you. I'd like you to make a
- 44:03Speaker 1: cameo appearance back at the house.
- 44:04Speaker 4: They caught up with his now-grown son, and they said,
- 44:06Speaker 4: do you resent your dad.
- 44:09Speaker 3: For walking around the world your whole life?
- 44:11Speaker 7: He said, no, no.
- 44:12Speaker 4: He had to do what he had to do. His
- 44:13Speaker 4: son's got no problem with it? No, apparently not. What
- 44:15Speaker 4: the heck? First of all, he probably just had a
- 44:20Speaker 4: couple more dads as this guy started walking.
- 44:22Speaker 1: Ha ha ha. Also, I didn't know that was an
- 44:24Speaker 1: option to leave the family for 28 years and your
- 44:27Speaker 1: kids still love you when you get back.
- 44:29Speaker 4: I didn't think that was in play. Could you imagine
- 44:32Speaker 4: back to a list of chores, though? This guy has
- 44:33Speaker 4: racked up from his wife after 28 years. Hey, I
- 44:36Speaker 4: know you just walked for 28 years. You got to
- 44:38Speaker 4: go to the grocery store for me. I've got things
- 44:40Speaker 4: we got to do. That honeydew list is longer than
- 44:42Speaker 4: the Hornets injury list. And the Panthers injury list, for
- 44:45Speaker 4: that matter. Carl Bushby, it's about time you headed on home.
- 44:48Speaker 4: You done did too much. You did too much walking
- 44:50Speaker 4: and not enough parenting, sir. I believe that is a
- 44:52Speaker 4: fair way of putting it. Mac, when this guy goes
- 44:56Speaker 4: to a store, he goes out for errands, are you
- 44:58Speaker 4: going to trust this guy's coming back? When dad or
- 45:02Speaker 4: husband here goes out for a few minutes, are we sure, Mr.
- 45:04Speaker 1: Bushby? We're not thinking there might be 28 more years? Yeah,
- 45:10Speaker 1: I do not think he is. He may not be trustworthy, Bone.
- 45:13Speaker 1: May not be someone you can count on in that family.
- 45:16Speaker 1: Although the hard stuff's over. Maybe that's why he's probably
- 45:19Speaker 1: back now because they're grown. He doesn't have to do
- 45:20Speaker 1: any actual parenting. The hard stuff's over. He met his
- 45:24Speaker 1: son and his grandkids. There you go. That's nice. That's
- 45:26Speaker 1: nice for him. Good moment for him. All right. Anyway,
- 45:30Speaker 1: my God, some people. Anyway, I'm going to tell you
- 45:33Speaker 1: who's doing too much at our house, Bone. It's Bacon
- 45:36Speaker 1: the dog. I don't know if anybody else has a
- 45:39Speaker 1: couple of dogs and has this sort of dynamic, but
- 45:42Speaker 1: our dog Bacon is obsessed and addicted to licking our
- 45:48Speaker 1: other dog Rocket's ears. I mean, it's like he'll do
- 45:52Speaker 1: it for hours. And the other day, Rocket got an
- 45:56Speaker 1: ear infection. And lo and behold, you can look it
- 46:00Speaker 1: up on the internet. A dog can get an ear
- 46:03Speaker 1: infection if another dog is licking his ear excessively. I
- 46:08Speaker 1: am pretty sure that that bill we just got from
- 46:13Speaker 1: Banfield Pet Hospital is because of Bacon's obsession with ear licking.
- 46:17Speaker 1: We now have to separate the.
- 46:19Speaker 3: Two of them.
- 46:20Speaker 1: We now have to put Bacon in jail, up in
- 46:22Speaker 1: the bedroom, upstairs. Bacon, you're doing too much, man. How
- 46:26Speaker 1: the heck is licking an ear that enjoyable? It's unbelievable.
- 46:31Speaker 3: What are his ears?
- 46:32Speaker 1: It's like prime rib.
- 46:34Speaker 3: I want to check that out, Mac, and see what's
- 46:35Speaker 3: going on there.
- 46:36Speaker 1: You want me to start and see? Maybe I'll find
- 46:39Speaker 1: myself into it.
- 46:39Speaker 4: I'll tell you what, my dog Murphy also, Mac, is
- 46:42Speaker 4: probably in the you're doing too much category because he
- 46:46Speaker 4: is now, first of all, I've instituted a much like
- 46:50Speaker 4: college basketball five fouls a day rule. where he gets
- 46:53Speaker 4: five moments a day, and if he goes over that, Mac,
- 46:56Speaker 4: he's got to go in the crate for the rest
- 46:57Speaker 4: of the day.
- 46:57Speaker 3: He's out of the game.
- 46:58Speaker 4: So he's got to use them wisely, right? He picks
- 47:00Speaker 4: up three fouls by 2 p.m. He's probably not going
- 47:03Speaker 4: to be out much longer. So use your fouls wisely, Murph.
- 47:06Speaker 4: He is now in his official humping era. The dog's
- 47:11Speaker 4: at the park. Chuck upstairs. The DoorDash driver.
- 47:14Speaker 1: The couch.
- 47:15Speaker 3: This guy's on a humping. He didn't do it before.
- 47:17Speaker 4: All of a sudden, this guy is going like he's
- 47:20Speaker 4: Ric Flair in the 80s.
- 47:23Speaker 3: Or actually, probably Ric Flair now.
- 47:24Speaker 1: Is he fixed? Yeah. Okay. All right. So there's nothing.
- 47:27Speaker 1: The other day he came up to me. It's pointless humping.
- 47:29Speaker 4: The other day he came up to me and I
- 47:30Speaker 4: thought it was for conversation. I said, hey, what's going on?
- 47:32Speaker 4: All of a sudden, next thing I know, I said,
- 47:33Speaker 4: we don't do that.
- 47:34Speaker 1: Around here, right?
- 47:36Speaker 3: We're not from, insert your area here.
- 47:39Speaker 1: We're not from there.
- 47:39Speaker 3: We don't do that.
- 47:40Speaker 1: Add that to the list. Murphy already had a sizable
- 47:42Speaker 1: list of things that he does.
- 47:44Speaker 3: Here's another one. Add humping to the list. Here's another one, Mac.
- 47:46Speaker 4: This is in Scotland at the Kelvin Grove Art Gallery.
- 47:52Speaker 4: They are under fire, and it's being called stupid and
- 47:55Speaker 4: ignorant after they removed mummies because they realized the mummies
- 48:00Speaker 4: did not consent to being in the art galleries. People
- 48:05Speaker 4: are saying this is the dumbest thing ever. How could mummies,
- 48:08Speaker 4: which is bones, how could they consent to being on
- 48:12Speaker 4: display there? People are saying, Kelvin Grove, our gallery, you've
- 48:16Speaker 4: done too much.
- 48:17Speaker 1: That's part you're doing too much, part what the bleep.
- 48:20Speaker 1: I mean, that is crazy. Spoiled lettuce says he's either
- 48:26Speaker 1: going to lick beer or ear or butt. Dogs be dogging. Oh,
- 48:33Speaker 1: it's true. It's true. They're either humping, they're ear licking,
- 48:36Speaker 1: causing ear infections. But for some reason, Bone, somebody, and
- 48:40Speaker 1: I don't know who the first human was, thought, oh,
- 48:43Speaker 1: those things are cute. How about I bring that thing
- 48:45Speaker 1: from outside into the house and it lives with me?
- 48:48Speaker 1: Must have been an extremely lonely individual. But whoever that
- 48:51Speaker 1: person is, man, all these things that make us shake
- 48:54Speaker 1: our head that our.
- 48:55Speaker 4: Dogs do, it's because of them. Murphy's got a double
- 48:58Speaker 4: ear infection, Maxwell. I also got that bill from Banfield, the...
- 49:02Speaker 4: Same hospital, my area. So now Murphy is blind in
- 49:05Speaker 4: one eye, and I'm not sure he can hear out.
- 49:07Speaker 1: Of either ear.
- 49:07Speaker 4: He's only one years old. He's already passing Mabel on
- 49:10Speaker 4: the medical scale. Have you been licking both those ears?
- 49:12Speaker 4: How'd you get that ear infection? I was trying to
- 49:13Speaker 4: get him off me from his current era that he's in.
- 49:15Speaker 4: All right, we come back here on the Mac and
- 49:18Speaker 4: Bone radio program. Should we expect big changes from the
- 49:21Speaker 4: Panthers defense under Todd Walsh? Is switching to the 4-3
- 49:25Speaker 4: a worthwhile idea? Mac, Bone, Sports Radio, 92.7 WFNZ.