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Ep. 756: Sounding Off and Feral Hogs | MeatEater Radio Live! · The MeatEater Podcast

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  Speaker 1: Smell us now, lady, Welcome to Meet Eater Trivia, the
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  Speaker 1: Metater Podcast. Welcome to me Eater Radio Live. It's eleven
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  Speaker 1: a m. Mountain time. Phil's giggling again because I missed
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  Speaker 1: the exact timing of this intro, but oh well, we'll
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  Speaker 1: keep on going. Eleven am Mountain time. That's eight pm
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  Speaker 1: for our friends in Latvia. What up, Linda, gasparskuts bars
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  Speaker 1: everybody else. It's Thursday, August twenty eighth, and we're live
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  Speaker 1: from me Eater headquarters in a fall like Bozeman, Montana.
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  Speaker 1: I'm your host, Yannis ptelis joined today by Randall Big,
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  Speaker 1: Randy Williams, and Brody of Care Are you in the
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  Speaker 1: Henderson's Henderson I was a tongue twister. Like I said.
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  Speaker 1: It feels a lot like fall and that has me
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  Speaker 1: fired up. The aspens are showing a sprinkling of yellow leaves.
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  Speaker 1: The high today is only sixty five degrees. I heard
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  Speaker 1: a bugle last night on Tana's archery season opens in
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  Speaker 1: nine days and my broadheads are flying.
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  Speaker 2: Oh true, oh my.
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  Speaker 1: Today on the show, we'll hear about my and Brody's
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  Speaker 1: recent trip to Alaska. An audio project called Hide hunters,
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  Speaker 1: our favorite sounds from the outdoors, and a new trail camera.
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  Speaker 1: Photo contest Rich Frohning is phoning in to tell us
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  Speaker 1: about the hardest moment in CrossFit competition. And finally, we'll
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  Speaker 1: chat with me eater guest star Parker Hall about trapping
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  Speaker 1: feral pigs in Florida to save sea turtles. Boys. Does
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  Speaker 1: it feel like fall to you too?
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  Speaker 3: It does? But you know, you know summer is coming back.
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  Speaker 4: I know.
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  Speaker 1: I checked the weather today after we because this rain
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  Speaker 1: was unexpected to me at least, I had not been
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  Speaker 1: checking the weather. And then yesterday and today it's all
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  Speaker 1: like coolny, great weather.
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  Speaker 3: For running in I've been enjoying that.
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  Speaker 1: I haven't done any running.
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  Speaker 2: I'm just hoping that this puts an end to fire season.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I didn't check that this morning. Either. Do you
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  Speaker 1: know if any of the fires were extinguished from rain?
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  Speaker 2: No idea, but thinking hopeful thoughts.
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  Speaker 1: But are you guys jack too. It's not quite September,
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  Speaker 1: but we're almost there. Oh yeah, man, it's like it's here.
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  Speaker 1: It's on Monday is.
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  Speaker 3: Grouse Opener will be out there and that's like the
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  Speaker 3: official start.
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  Speaker 2: I'm not quite there yet. I'm not quite.
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  Speaker 1: You're not feeling it.
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  Speaker 2: Well, I'm excited, but I don't feel like it's at
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  Speaker 2: the doorstep quite yet. We've got a little travel up
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  Speaker 2: ahead of us, and.
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  Speaker 3: His broadheads aren't flying true like yours.
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  Speaker 2: Well, my broadheads are still hanging on the rack at
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  Speaker 2: a store somewhere because I'm just waiting to burn some powder.
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  Speaker 1: Uh huh. I know. See, that's the thing you got.
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  Speaker 1: If you want to really get fired up at the
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  Speaker 1: end of August, you kind of got to be an
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  Speaker 1: upland hunter like Brody or an arch tree hunter. Now
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  Speaker 1: you mentioned we're doing some traveling, we might as well
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  Speaker 1: get this out of the way. Randall and I are
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  Speaker 1: going to be in Columbus, Ohio on Saturday. Do you
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  Speaker 1: have the exact location? Handy?
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  Speaker 5: I do not.
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  Speaker 1: Well, while he's Randall's looking that up. We're doing the
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  Speaker 1: tailgate tour again and Randall and I going to be
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  Speaker 1: there for the Ohio State in Texas, Yes game on Saturday,
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  Speaker 1: hanging out. So if you're in the area, go to
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  Speaker 1: the website. I'm sure you can get all the DCE
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  Speaker 1: there on where to find us. Randall might have it
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  Speaker 1: pulled up there.
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  Speaker 2: We will be at the Dublin Market at Bridge Park.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, Dublin Market at Bridge Park. It's gonna be early
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  Speaker 1: because the game starts at eleven, so.
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  Speaker 2: It'll start at noon. I'm sorry, We're gonna start at
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  Speaker 2: nine am.
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  Speaker 1: At nine am kick off, so you've probably roughly got
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  Speaker 1: two hours to come and see us. Nine to eleven
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  Speaker 1: Saturday morning. Come and hang out, tell me hunt story,
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  Speaker 1: take a picture, whatever you want to do. We'd love
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  Speaker 1: to see you.
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  Speaker 3: Does it say where I'm going to be on where
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  Speaker 3: ours is? On the twenty seventh TBD on your local.
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  Speaker 3: We'll have to come back to that.
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  Speaker 2: Yeah, we'll revisit that.
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  Speaker 1: Uh, Brody, we got back. What has it been now?
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  Speaker 1: Has it been a week or two? Two too odd
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  Speaker 1: time wise? Yeah, we were at fish Shack, Renella's fish
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  Speaker 1: Shack on Prince of Wales Island. Randell, you've been there
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  Speaker 1: for Bear Hunt, I have, Brody, you've been there a
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  Speaker 1: whole bunch with your family. This is the first time
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  Speaker 1: I took my family there. My biggest worry going into
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  Speaker 1: this one was like how my kids, my girls were
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  Speaker 1: going to deal with Steve.
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  Speaker 2: A little bit.
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  Speaker 1: But they've been around him enough, they've kind of grown
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  Speaker 1: up with him that they kind of know what to
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  Speaker 1: expect and they get my I coach them on how
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  Speaker 1: to deal with that too, you know, and so that's
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  Speaker 1: not too big deal because they've been around him. But No,
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  Speaker 1: the Southeast Alaska's sort of constant rain, the constant fifty
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  Speaker 1: five degree temperature that's really not warm, not cold, but
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  Speaker 1: you know, it's like if you're wet in that those
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  Speaker 1: tempts it can it can be uncomfortable.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, and you're always wet even when it's not raining totally.
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  Speaker 1: The living conditions up there, it's not unsanitary or anything,
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  Speaker 1: but it's very sparse, well, you know, it's it's it
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  Speaker 1: is a shack.
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  Speaker 2: When I was up there, I couldn't get all of
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  Speaker 2: the mink shit off my bed that I was sleeping in.
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  Speaker 2: That's the danger of most of the minkshit. But I
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  Speaker 2: couldn't get all of it.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, because you were probably the first one there for
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  Speaker 3: the season, so you had to deal with all that.
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  Speaker 3: Luckily we were there after all that had been taken.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, each consecutive group just scrapes off a little more minkshit,
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  Speaker 1: and by the time you're the last group like us,
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  Speaker 1: no more minkshit.
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  Speaker 2: Yep.
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  Speaker 1: But we last group. Man, I would rather be the
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  Speaker 1: first group. I've only done that like one, Maybe I
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  Speaker 1: would rather be a middle group. Oh, you're right, yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Uh.
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  Speaker 1: The reason we're saying that like middle, like there's a
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  Speaker 1: there's actually four owners of the fish shack, and so
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  Speaker 1: there's a period of probably a span of maybe close
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  Speaker 1: to two months roughly, yeah, six weeks, and the first
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  Speaker 1: group comes. You got to do the job of opening
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  Speaker 1: the place up. But then there's like group two, three,
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  Speaker 1: and four who like get to just roll in, do
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  Speaker 1: their thing and leave. Now there's work to be done
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  Speaker 1: for every group, but the opening and then the shutting
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  Speaker 1: the place down is like it takes a day. It
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  Speaker 1: took us a day to shut the place down.
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  Speaker 2: On our pulling motors off boats and oh it's back
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  Speaker 2: getting the water lines all cleared out.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah. But to finish my original thought here, as I
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  Speaker 1: was worried about my girls and how they were going
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  Speaker 1: to do there. My wife, I know she's gonna be fine,
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  Speaker 1: no big deal. Uh, they like excelled exceeded expectations. Not
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  Speaker 1: only did they never once uh like even kind of
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  Speaker 1: talk about the weather. Like I don't think they talked
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  Speaker 1: about the rain, the adults are bitching about the rain,
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  Speaker 1: but the kids like, don't bring it up. They're just
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  Speaker 1: like whatever, man, we put our slickers on and we're going.
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  Speaker 1: And that's my.
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  Speaker 3: Bigby put them on and just run around wet.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, and bro my girls, I'm like, you girls are
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  Speaker 1: gonna learn a lesson Brod. He's like I told you,
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  Speaker 1: Brody gets after his kids when they're making mistakes like
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  Speaker 1: run around without raincoats. But anyways, the kids excelled. They
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  Speaker 1: didn't give a shit about the rain. And that water
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  Speaker 1: is roughly.
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  Speaker 3: What in the fifties.
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  Speaker 1: In the fifties, those kids swim every single day of
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  Speaker 1: our trip. The water would come in, the tide would
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  Speaker 1: get high, and they would be in the cove just
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  Speaker 1: splashing around like they were at the beach in North Carolina.
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  Speaker 3: Ya couldn't care, Matt rene mad He runs around in
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  Speaker 3: shorts and crocs, like, no rain gear. And the kid's
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  Speaker 3: impervious to the weather. Yeah, it's like it doesn't affect him.
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  Speaker 1: My oldest received this prestigious Cock of the Cove award,
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  Speaker 1: Stephen Renela. To put this in perspective, we actually have
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  Speaker 1: to plan when we're gonna eat dinner. The rest of
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  Speaker 1: us without Steve knowing, because if you eat dinner, we
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  Speaker 1: were eating dinner kind of late. I felt like a
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  Speaker 1: couple of nights, and I was like, man, let's eat
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  Speaker 1: a little bit earlier. And yeah, that chef Andy Rajalowski's like, yeah, sure,
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  Speaker 1: we can eat it earlier. But and I didn't really
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  Speaker 1: get the butt. I guess I wasn't listening what happens
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  Speaker 1: the next night we eat earlier, we're done at like seven,
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  Speaker 1: there's like ninety minutes maybe two hours of kind of
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  Speaker 1: some light left. Well, everybody else wants to like play
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  Speaker 1: banana Grams and have another beer. Steven Arnella is like
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  Speaker 1: looking out the window and he's like, well.
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  Speaker 6: We got plenty of time to dig a hole. We're
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  Speaker 6: gonna carry some rocks. We're gonna chain one of the
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  Speaker 6: big rocks in the hole. They we're gonna cover up
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  Speaker 6: the hole and chain it to my new floating dock.
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  Speaker 6: And everybody's kind of looking around like he's like, who's
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  Speaker 6: with me?
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  Speaker 1: No one raises a hand. So that's the problem with
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  Speaker 1: eating too early. So after that we were really person
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  Speaker 1: that when we finished eating, there would not be quite
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  Speaker 1: enough time to get another chore done. It could just
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  Speaker 1: be a little bit of relaxation and time for better.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, that was like we had never done the eating
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  Speaker 3: early before.
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  Speaker 1: You never tried it.
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  Speaker 3: No, it's always like you eat and go to bed,
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  Speaker 3: which like you gotta you get you know, it's a
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  Speaker 3: long day, but it doesn't leave any time for you.
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  Speaker 3: Just eat, go to bed.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, I've said this to let you all know that
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  Speaker 1: when you're at Reneul's fish shack, and I'd like to
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  Speaker 1: know if you had the similar experience. But there's work
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  Speaker 1: to be done. There's like uh shack improvement projects that
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  Speaker 1: are ongoing. There's just general upkeep of engines and like
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  Speaker 1: you name it. And then there's the daily stuff just
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  Speaker 1: to keep yourself alive, cooking and eating and cleaning up
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  Speaker 1: after yourself and all that stuff. Well, the cock of
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  Speaker 1: the cove gets the award when like you're always Johnny
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  Speaker 1: on the spot. You're raising your hand when at like
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  Speaker 1: six pm, no one else wants to go pull shrimp pots.
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  Speaker 1: Steve's like we're going to pull shrimp pots? Who wants
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  Speaker 1: to go? You raise your hand or dinner's over. Everybody
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  Speaker 1: else is chilling, rubbing their bellies, adjusting their belts. There's
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  Speaker 1: a lot of dirty dishes. You get up and start
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  Speaker 1: doing the dishes, right, that sort of stuff. Oh, you
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  Speaker 1: got to make another run back from the boats to
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  Speaker 1: get more bait. I'll go run back to get more bait. Right. Well,
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  Speaker 1: my daughter very proud of her. She chipped in and
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  Speaker 1: was crushing it, and Steve awarded her Cock of the Cove.
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  Speaker 2: Well, does that entitle her to any sort of liberties
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  Speaker 2: the next time around or diminished?
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  Speaker 3: No, your slate is clear.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, pat yourself on the back and move on.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah.
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  Speaker 3: Hayde, my kid, Hayden was awarded Chief filet Officer.
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  Speaker 1: Oh that's a prestigious honor.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, he was after it this.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, Randon, when you were there, did you feel like
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  Speaker 1: you worked your ass off?
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  Speaker 2: Not really.
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  Speaker 7: Uh.
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  Speaker 2: We didn't do a ton of projects because we were
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  Speaker 2: filming and so the focus was on like getting stuff done.
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  Speaker 1: It's interesting because usually even when I've been up there
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  Speaker 1: in the past filming, Steve will be like, Okay, we
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  Speaker 1: did eight hours of film, and now let's do four
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  Speaker 1: hours of may La.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah.
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  Speaker 2: Well, we were like we were a little under the
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  Speaker 2: gun until I killed my bear and then it was
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  Speaker 2: like because we had we had two bear tags to fill.
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  Speaker 2: And so the first two, you know, we flew in,
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  Speaker 2: couldn't hunt, and we had a day where we didn't
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  Speaker 2: Steve and I chased a couple didn't get an opportunity.
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  Speaker 2: Then we had a day where it just rained all
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  Speaker 2: night and all day and bears didn't come out. Steve
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  Speaker 2: and I sat in the rain. So at that point
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  Speaker 2: there was a little bit of anxiety. But when I
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  Speaker 2: was up there, I I just sort of decided that
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  Speaker 2: I was going to fill the generator, which brought me
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  Speaker 2: back to my days working in Alaska, just filling fuel
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  Speaker 2: cans and pouring them and things, and that was I
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  Speaker 2: felt like that was a solid contribution.
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  Speaker 1: Oh, you got to keep the Jenny running.
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  Speaker 3: Nothing worse when Yeah, we had narrator problems this year.
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  Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, we had all kinds of mechanical problems.
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  Speaker 3: Anything else? Do you want to mention about our great trip?
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  Speaker 8: No?
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  Speaker 3: I mean Seth and I kind of talked fishing up
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  Speaker 3: there last was it last week?
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  Speaker 1: So he covered off on this, covered off on how
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  Speaker 1: Seth kept taking out Renel's kids and his Renel's kids
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  Speaker 1: would catch giants.
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  Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I let people know if you want to
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  Speaker 3: get a big halbit, you get in cessed boat.
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  Speaker 1: That's right. Yeah, it's pretty funny. Did you let people
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  Speaker 1: know that Steve missed the gaff shot or not the
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  Speaker 1: gaf shot the harpoon shot on your wife's big fish.
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  Speaker 3: I can't remember if we talked about that. I think
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  Speaker 3: we may have, and he didn't miss it, the helbit
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  Speaker 3: dodged the harpoon.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, according to I don't think he's come forward with
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  Speaker 1: his story yet. He should discuss it on on a
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  Speaker 1: future Mediator podcast episode. But I once was just ridden
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  Speaker 1: to hell. I was there about a why am I
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  Speaker 1: missing that word? A harpoon throat? I had never done it.
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  Speaker 1: I didn't realize. I thought it was kind of like
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  Speaker 1: a haia, you know, you just like know it. No,
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  Speaker 1: you gotta put it in there, and you gotta let
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  Speaker 1: him eat, you know.
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  Speaker 2: I got to harpoon the big one that Steve caught,
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  Speaker 2: and it was one of my favorite things ever done
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  Speaker 2: in my life because I'm a big moby dick guy.
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  Speaker 8: Hmmm.
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  Speaker 2: And also when I was guiding up there, like netting
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  Speaker 2: a big king is like a pretty intense situation, you know,
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  Speaker 2: like because the one end of the fish is going
• 13:43
  Speaker 2: to be hanging out of the net and if it's
• 13:44
  Speaker 2: the if it's not the ass end, that thing's going
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  Speaker 2: to swim away. So like brought me back again to
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  Speaker 2: the pressure of getting that fish in the boat. But
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  Speaker 2: a harpoon. Oh, it's just something very romantic about it.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, I got it, nailed.
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  Speaker 2: It, but the film crew was beachcombing at the time,
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  Speaker 2: so it didn't make it into the episode. My crowning achievement. Yeah,
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  Speaker 2: I know, man, but they found something cool on the beach.
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  Speaker 2: I think I don't know what.
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  Speaker 1: They say, Randall, if it didn't happen on camera, it
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  Speaker 1: didn't happen. Yes, Carrie's fish somehow got wrapped up in
• 14:21
  Speaker 1: the anchor line. Well, I mean it's like they kind
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  Speaker 1: of got that freed up. She was but she wasn't
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  Speaker 1: even in the boat with Steve. No, everything was cool,
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  Speaker 1: Oh it was everything was cool. The halbit was coming up,
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  Speaker 1: here comes Steve jumps in their boat and that's when
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  Speaker 1: chaos ensued. You're kidding.
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  Speaker 4: He was always the common denominator.
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  Speaker 2: That's great.
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  Speaker 1: Why did he feel like he needed to jump in
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  Speaker 1: the boat.
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  Speaker 3: Because he really wanted to carry to get that thing.
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  Speaker 3: It wasn't like you're doing it I don't think it
• 14:52
  Speaker 3: was like, oh, you guys are doing something wrong. He
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  Speaker 3: wanted her to get sure sure, and he wanted it
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  Speaker 3: too much.
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  Speaker 1: And it'll help if I'm in the boat with you.
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  Speaker 3: Yeah, look man, like it's fun to like point the finger,
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  Speaker 3: but shit goes wrong with those big ones.
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  Speaker 1: All extremely fun. Yeah. No, we lost more big ones
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  Speaker 1: that week than we then we landed percent, especially when
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  Speaker 1: you got like kids like that are around ten years
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  Speaker 1: old plus or minus whatever a couple three years, and
• 15:23
  Speaker 1: like you're kind of helping hold Rod real Rod, and
• 15:26
  Speaker 1: you're like, I can feel the the you know, levity
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  Speaker 1: is a situation.
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  Speaker 2: On that run, the last fish you want to lose.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, and you're just like, Maddie, do the best you can, buddy.
• 15:40
  Speaker 1: Speaking of hides, bear hides, you got one when you're
• 15:43
  Speaker 1: up there, But uh, you have a project about some
• 15:46
  Speaker 1: hides you're working on.
• 15:47
  Speaker 2: Yes, Yes, The next The next edition of Meat Eater's
• 15:51
  Speaker 2: American History is available for pre order right now wherever
• 15:54
  Speaker 2: you get your audio books. This is volume three Mediator's
• 15:58
  Speaker 2: American History, The Hide Hunters eight teen sixty five to
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  Speaker 2: eighteen eighty three, where we dive into the industrial scale
• 16:06
  Speaker 2: slaughter of the American Buffalo, as Steve likes to say,
• 16:09
  Speaker 2: in the period following the Civil War. It will be
• 16:12
  Speaker 2: released officially on October fourteenth, So if you pre order
• 16:17
  Speaker 2: it now, it'll just be on your phone on October fourteenth,
• 16:20
  Speaker 2: and you can give it a listen on your drive
• 16:22
  Speaker 2: to hunting camp.
• 16:23
  Speaker 1: Or can you give me a little snippet of, like
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  Speaker 1: one of your favorite stories from this.
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  Speaker 2: Wo boy favorite stories.
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  Speaker 1: Well, maybe a factoid that you found interesting.
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  Speaker 2: So one of the more interesting things is there were
• 16:38
  Speaker 2: several stories about skunks. One was a guy named Skunk Johnson,
• 16:44
  Speaker 2: and these guys would big build what they called dugout shelters,
• 16:47
  Speaker 2: so they dig into the side of a stream bank.
• 16:50
  Speaker 2: And he was famous for having a really big, elaborate one.
• 16:54
  Speaker 2: And at one point he was surrounded by a group
• 16:57
  Speaker 2: of I believe comanches and he just was sort of
• 17:01
  Speaker 2: stuck in there. He holed up like it was a
• 17:03
  Speaker 2: siege and he survived only by eating skunks.
• 17:07
  Speaker 1: Wow.
• 17:08
  Speaker 2: And then there was another guy who was bitten by
• 17:12
  Speaker 2: a rabid skunk. They're like two or three guys bitten
• 17:14
  Speaker 2: by rabid skunks, one of which he crawled under a
• 17:20
  Speaker 2: watering station along the railroad tracks like those big towers,
• 17:23
  Speaker 2: you know, I guess to get out of the sun,
• 17:25
  Speaker 2: and he just died. He never left that place. He
• 17:27
  Speaker 2: crawled under it and died. And then another guy was
• 17:31
  Speaker 2: bitten by a bitten by a rabid skunk, and when
• 17:36
  Speaker 2: he felt one of the bouts of hydrophobia coming on,
• 17:39
  Speaker 2: he took some of the stryc nine that they used
• 17:41
  Speaker 2: to poison the hides for scavengers, and he went out
• 17:45
  Speaker 2: back and he swallowed a slug of strych nine and
• 17:48
  Speaker 2: killed himself.
• 17:49
  Speaker 3: That's interesting because I almost feel like you got to
• 17:51
  Speaker 3: try to get bit by a rabid skunk.
• 17:53
  Speaker 2: I mean, it makes you wonder how many there were
• 17:55
  Speaker 2: out there. Yeah, you know, fascinating stuff. And then there's
• 17:58
  Speaker 2: another guy that they think he got bit by a
• 18:00
  Speaker 2: rabbit skunk, but they don't know the skunk either scratched
• 18:03
  Speaker 2: him or bit him while he was sleeping. It got
• 18:05
  Speaker 2: on his face.
• 18:07
  Speaker 1: I mean, if you're sleeping in a dugout cave in
• 18:11
  Speaker 1: a stream bank along a stream, I mean, all those
• 18:14
  Speaker 1: critters run those streams and you're in there asleep, and
• 18:17
  Speaker 1: they just come in and share whatever, squat at it.
• 18:20
  Speaker 2: And I think that's my I think that's one of
• 18:23
  Speaker 2: my more fascinating discoveries from the research is just four
• 18:26
  Speaker 2: stories about skunks.
• 18:29
  Speaker 3: The thing I think is cool about is like debunking
• 18:32
  Speaker 3: the myth that these guys were like just blood thirsty,
• 18:37
  Speaker 3: like they're somehow doing it out of malice and when
• 18:40
  Speaker 3: actually it was like, yeah, it was like a good
• 18:43
  Speaker 3: job to have at the time.
• 18:44
  Speaker 2: Yeah, we get into that. I mean that in the
• 18:46
  Speaker 2: larger context is like after the Civil War, there's just
• 18:50
  Speaker 2: a lot of sort of restless veterans and displaced people,
• 18:54
  Speaker 2: especially if their hometown had been destroyed in the South
• 18:58
  Speaker 2: or whatever else, Like they come back from war and
• 19:00
  Speaker 2: life doesn't go back to normal for them, so they
• 19:03
  Speaker 2: head out west. And also, like the eighteen seventies, there
• 19:06
  Speaker 2: a time of a lot of economic upheaval and business
• 19:09
  Speaker 2: is failing and bankruptcies and stuff like that. So yeah,
• 19:12
  Speaker 2: like there's a resource that's free for the taking, and
• 19:14
  Speaker 2: it's understandable that these guys would go out there and
• 19:17
  Speaker 2: try to make a living, especially if they're kind of
• 19:19
  Speaker 2: predisposed to be like adventure seekers.
• 19:22
  Speaker 1: So I'm going to save listening to it. My daughter
• 19:25
  Speaker 1: and I are road trip into Wisconsin for the rifle season.
• 19:29
  Speaker 1: This year, and I'm going to save it for.
• 19:31
  Speaker 4: That perfect It'll get you through.
• 19:33
  Speaker 1: I'm going to make her listen.
• 19:35
  Speaker 2: To It'll get you through. I think six and a
• 19:36
  Speaker 2: half hours of your drive something like that. So well
• 19:40
  Speaker 2: that's like a third Yeah, maybe get four hundred miles
• 19:43
  Speaker 2: out of it, that'd be good, totally.
• 19:48
  Speaker 1: Let's see what else we got in our little chit
• 19:50
  Speaker 1: chat section here shooting with the families. Roddy and I
• 19:54
  Speaker 1: went out and did a little plinking, set up some gongs.
• 19:58
  Speaker 1: I need more stands for the go so we can
• 20:00
  Speaker 1: have more distances yep, and not have the same like
• 20:04
  Speaker 1: two gongs on one frame.
• 20:05
  Speaker 3: Yeah, get them dial in weird distances like you know,
• 20:09
  Speaker 3: in between distances. Yeah, we were just getting started. We
• 20:13
  Speaker 3: didn't get quite as far along with the competition thing
• 20:18
  Speaker 3: you're just getting I had a brand new rifle that
• 20:20
  Speaker 3: had never been shot.
• 20:22
  Speaker 2: Yeah, the guys should let me know. I'm just on
• 20:24
  Speaker 2: the other side of the mountain.
• 20:25
  Speaker 1: I know. Well, I mean I get I come back
• 20:28
  Speaker 1: from doing one of these, and then there's always like, oh,
• 20:30
  Speaker 1: I should have called Randall. I should have called you know, Mike,
• 20:33
  Speaker 1: because he's got a kid that also wants to shoot
• 20:35
  Speaker 1: but I will say, like we had just we were
• 20:39
  Speaker 1: at the max amount of like how many guns can
• 20:41
  Speaker 1: be going out at once. It's different if it's all adults.
• 20:44
  Speaker 3: You're trying to watch kids that are shooting, they can
• 20:46
  Speaker 3: get hectically.
• 20:47
  Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't need to shoot. I can just help.
• 20:49
  Speaker 2: We can just be there to hear the bang.
• 20:51
  Speaker 1: Oh okay, well, then definitely we could use it.
• 20:54
  Speaker 3: Luckily, we had some quiet bangs going on, at least
• 20:56
  Speaker 3: until Johannis broke out the rifle with the brake on it.
• 21:00
  Speaker 1: Man, it's like, yeah, the brakes are tough these days,
• 21:03
  Speaker 1: but when you go to Canada, you gotta you gotta
• 21:05
  Speaker 1: shoot break. I will say, It's funny how I told
• 21:10
  Speaker 1: my girls going into it. I'm like, I would like
• 21:12
  Speaker 1: you guys to try to shoot about a box or
• 21:14
  Speaker 1: the whole box, you know, twenty rounds apiece, however you
• 21:17
  Speaker 1: want to do it. Well, they get through like ten,
• 21:19
  Speaker 1: they've hit every gong, and they're kind of like, eh,
• 21:23
  Speaker 1: you know, we've shot enough. I'm like, no, you haven't.
• 21:25
  Speaker 1: You know, we might get to do this one maybe
• 21:27
  Speaker 1: two times. But before we go on the youth hunt,
• 21:30
  Speaker 1: like we need to shoot a bunch and I'm like, okay,
• 21:33
  Speaker 1: let's do a little competition. You got to hit two hundred,
• 21:36
  Speaker 1: three hundred, four hundred and then come it and then
• 21:38
  Speaker 1: and then bring it back and we're gonna time you
• 21:41
  Speaker 1: you know, and every miss counts for fifteen seconds or whatever.
• 21:45
  Speaker 1: And as soon as that was down, all of a sudden,
• 21:47
  Speaker 1: everybody's like, all right, let me go, let me go,
• 21:49
  Speaker 1: let me go at it, let me go at it.
• 21:50
  Speaker 1: And then they each got another whatever that was six shots,
• 21:53
  Speaker 1: five shots, yeah, quickly, And uh, it's really good because
• 21:57
  Speaker 1: that little bit of stress of that competition tition, that
• 22:02
  Speaker 1: is what it's going to feel like when there's a
• 22:04
  Speaker 1: buck and you have limited amount of time and there's
• 22:08
  Speaker 1: all of a sudden there's stress. Stress in the situation,
• 22:10
  Speaker 1: self induced usually when you're out hunting, right, but like,
• 22:13
  Speaker 1: there is that stress, but it's you can you can
• 22:16
  Speaker 1: mimic that by doing a little bit of a competition.
• 22:18
  Speaker 1: I think it's really good for any shooter. You know,
• 22:21
  Speaker 1: kids get a lot out of it, but that's great
• 22:23
  Speaker 1: for any shooter. Yeah, I got other stuff I'd love
• 22:28
  Speaker 1: to tell you guys about. All Right, one last thing,
• 22:30
  Speaker 1: I promise Phil Philip's already like this is gonna be
• 22:32
  Speaker 1: the longest episcon checking on the longest episode.
• 22:37
  Speaker 4: Jesus the chat just complaining that Giannis won't shut the
• 22:39
  Speaker 4: hell up. No, they are, everyone's loving it. I'm just
• 22:43
  Speaker 4: I'm just joshing.
• 22:44
  Speaker 1: All right, this is great. Uh. Sunday morning, we're having breakfast,
• 22:50
  Speaker 1: kind of a late late brunchy breakfast the family, and
• 22:53
  Speaker 1: someone looks over and it's like, holy, look at Vegas
• 22:56
  Speaker 1: his leg and on his like lower Uh. I forget
• 23:00
  Speaker 1: which which front leg is on. I think it's his left,
• 23:02
  Speaker 1: but you know, maybe six or eight inches above his paw,
• 23:05
  Speaker 1: big old gash like two inches long, and it's kind
• 23:08
  Speaker 1: of spread open, like a solid inch maybe more. I'm like, yee,
• 23:13
  Speaker 1: you know, like that looks bad. I wondering, like, who's
• 23:16
  Speaker 1: gonna Who's gonna be the one that takes him to
• 23:18
  Speaker 1: the vet.
• 23:18
  Speaker 3: And just for like people are listening, you kind of
• 23:21
  Speaker 3: let him roam around and do his own thing.
• 23:23
  Speaker 1: Yeah, we don't have a fence. We don't have a
• 23:25
  Speaker 1: fence yard. He wears his GPS callar every single day
• 23:30
  Speaker 1: of his life and then that way when he's usually
• 23:33
  Speaker 1: he's not much of a roamer until it gets h
• 23:36
  Speaker 1: evening time and it cools off and then all of
• 23:38
  Speaker 1: a sudden he starts to roam.
• 23:39
  Speaker 2: I'm the same way.
• 23:43
  Speaker 1: And uh anyway, so it probably happened the evening before
• 23:47
  Speaker 1: no one noticed it, and then the next morning like, hey,
• 23:50
  Speaker 1: look at that. Well, all of a sudden, everybody else
• 23:52
  Speaker 1: has somewhere to beat. So I'm left with Mingus and
• 23:55
  Speaker 1: his open wound, and they're like, take care of it,
• 23:58
  Speaker 1: and I forget. I had to go. I'm where too,
• 24:00
  Speaker 1: so I didn't have that much time. But I take
• 24:03
  Speaker 1: a picture send it to my buddy Jake. I'm like,
• 24:05
  Speaker 1: what would you do right now? He's like, that looks
• 24:07
  Speaker 1: pretty fresh. I think you can just staple it up.
• 24:11
  Speaker 1: I'm like, okay, I have bought the staple gun already.
• 24:14
  Speaker 1: I'm prepared, sitting in my truck in case we have
• 24:16
  Speaker 1: a mountain lion, you know, mishap.
• 24:19
  Speaker 2: And it's like the first thing you need to buy
• 24:21
  Speaker 2: when you're a houndsman. Yeah, a GPS collar and a
• 24:25
  Speaker 2: staple gun.
• 24:25
  Speaker 1: Totally, and so I've got that. I watch a couple
• 24:29
  Speaker 1: of YouTube videos irrigate it with, you know, some warmed
• 24:35
  Speaker 1: hot sailing solution. Irrigate the hell out of it. Maybe
• 24:39
  Speaker 1: scrub it a little bit and uh, Stapler shut and
• 24:42
  Speaker 1: you're on your way. And so I did that. I
• 24:46
  Speaker 1: got to the oh. I later we had to meet
• 24:48
  Speaker 1: at a volleyball game for my oldest and I'm like
• 24:50
  Speaker 1: showing them pictures and telling them my story. They were incredulous.
• 24:56
  Speaker 1: They were like, you didn't do that. You went to
• 24:59
  Speaker 1: the vat. I'm like, no, no, no, I like, watch the
• 25:01
  Speaker 1: YouTube video on Staple of my dog up. It wasn't
• 25:03
  Speaker 1: that hard. And they're looking at it and they're like, well,
• 25:05
  Speaker 1: it looks pretty good, dad, you know. I'm like, well, like,
• 25:08
  Speaker 1: it wasn't that hard. But they're very much like, nice,
• 25:11
  Speaker 1: did you really do this? And then not Later though,
• 25:15
  Speaker 1: I caught a lot of scrutiny about like pussing a lot.
• 25:18
  Speaker 1: Maybe you look swollen? Are you sure you did it right? Anyways,
• 25:23
  Speaker 1: I felt like I should be a vet.
• 25:25
  Speaker 2: Sure that's great.
• 25:26
  Speaker 1: After doing that, I'm like, I'm.
• 25:28
  Speaker 3: Super glueded dog.
• 25:29
  Speaker 1: But not.
• 25:30
  Speaker 3: But staplelan like did he squirm or yelp?
• 25:33
  Speaker 1: He gave me like a false uh when I irrigated,
• 25:39
  Speaker 1: but the staples he barely flinched. Yeah, And I didn't
• 25:43
  Speaker 1: unesssize him.
• 25:45
  Speaker 3: Was it like like barbed wire kind of cutter, That's
• 25:49
  Speaker 3: what I'm thinking, you know, especially in that spot.
• 25:52
  Speaker 1: Yeah, and there's plenty of barb wire on our property,
• 25:55
  Speaker 1: you know. So all right, thank you all for Uh,
• 25:59
  Speaker 1: that's the folks coming. We're halfway through. We're gonna interview
• 26:08
  Speaker 1: Rich Throning now. In this interview, this first one is
• 26:11
  Speaker 1: brought to you by none other than Mountain Ops. Whether
• 26:15
  Speaker 1: you're training for the mountain or just trying to feel
• 26:18
  Speaker 1: your best every single day, Mountain Ops has your back.
• 26:24
  Speaker 1: Speaking of performance, we're joined today by one of the
• 26:28
  Speaker 1: most accomplished athletes in the world of fitness, four time
• 26:32
  Speaker 1: CrossFit Games champion and the man often called the fittest
• 26:35
  Speaker 1: on Earth. You just thought that was me, but no,
• 26:38
  Speaker 1: we're talking about Rich Frowning and he's here bringing that
• 26:44
  Speaker 1: all together in a brand new podcast called In Pursuit,
• 26:48
  Speaker 1: where he's exploring how the grit of competition and the
• 26:51
  Speaker 1: challenges of the wild connect to something deeper in all
• 26:55
  Speaker 1: of us. Rich, welcome to meet Eater Radio Live. How
• 26:59
  Speaker 1: are you?
• 27:00
  Speaker 8: What's up? Boys?
• 27:01
  Speaker 2: How we doing excellent?
• 27:02
  Speaker 1: We're doing great? Is it feeling Rich? You're down in Nashville?
• 27:05
  Speaker 9: Correct, a little bit east uh in Cookfield. But man,
• 27:09
  Speaker 9: it's it's it feels like fall here. Man, it's getting
• 27:12
  Speaker 9: me fired up. Mornings are Chris you know, hot during
• 27:14
  Speaker 9: the day, but it cools off pretty good at the evening.
• 27:17
  Speaker 8: So man, we just had Velvet Hunt this week and
• 27:18
  Speaker 8: I didn't actually get to go out.
• 27:19
  Speaker 9: I was in Texas, but seeing the pictures, man, it's
• 27:22
  Speaker 9: getting me fired up.
• 27:23
  Speaker 1: Oh man, I love to hear it. I was thought,
• 27:25
  Speaker 1: you're gonna tell me it's just been still hot as
• 27:27
  Speaker 1: balls and it's still summertime, but it sounds if you
• 27:29
  Speaker 1: made it.
• 27:29
  Speaker 9: Drop this week, and man, it's just your walk outside
• 27:32
  Speaker 9: expecting to just get knocked down by a wall of
• 27:35
  Speaker 9: humidity and there's none. It's it feels feels like fall.
• 27:38
  Speaker 1: Wonder lovely Rich, can you give our listeners a quick
• 27:43
  Speaker 1: behind the scenes peak and what inspired you to do
• 27:49
  Speaker 1: the in Pursuit podcast? Like, what's going on with this podcast?
• 27:53
  Speaker 5: Yeah?
• 27:53
  Speaker 9: Man, it's just a good time and it's honestly, it's
• 27:55
  Speaker 9: just me nerding out and listening to some specialists in
• 27:58
  Speaker 9: different areas. Whether it you know, we had Joel Turner
• 28:01
  Speaker 9: that episode just launched today. We had Kip Folks, who
• 28:05
  Speaker 9: runs a he's gonna outfit her up in Alaska.
• 28:08
  Speaker 8: For Grizzly Moose and all that.
• 28:10
  Speaker 9: And then Joel we've had on just talking about shot
• 28:13
  Speaker 9: iq stuff and the high stress stuff you're talking about
• 28:16
  Speaker 9: with shooting rifles we do. He does a lot with bows.
• 28:20
  Speaker 9: So it's just cool to talk to those guys and
• 28:21
  Speaker 9: pick their brains. We had a NFL guy that Zach Steeler,
• 28:25
  Speaker 9: that just actually signed a forty five million dollar contract
• 28:28
  Speaker 9: a couple of days after he left here, so you know,
• 28:31
  Speaker 9: we asked him for a percentage of that since we
• 28:33
  Speaker 9: probably helped with that. But man, it's just it's my own,
• 28:37
  Speaker 9: I guess pursuit for knowledge for lack of better terms
• 28:40
  Speaker 9: of just getting exposed to different guys and what they're
• 28:42
  Speaker 9: doing and in the hunting and then also just in
• 28:45
  Speaker 9: in sport and how we can relate that to the outdoors.
• 28:49
  Speaker 1: On that note, like there's just reading through sort of
• 28:53
  Speaker 1: the ideas behind in pursuit. There's like the grit of
• 28:56
  Speaker 1: mountain hunting and then how that aligns with you know,
• 28:59
  Speaker 1: fishy performance and the disciplines of CrossFit, Like how do
• 29:04
  Speaker 1: you how do you see those two? Like where's that
• 29:06
  Speaker 1: intersection for you? Man?
• 29:08
  Speaker 9: I think it's just being a well rounded ath. I mean,
• 29:11
  Speaker 9: you just finished one hundred mile Old race, what couple
• 29:13
  Speaker 9: of weeks ago.
• 29:14
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's been a month now, but still feel it best.
• 29:17
  Speaker 8: Yeah, I bet you're still feeling it.
• 29:19
  Speaker 1: Yeah, you know.
• 29:19
  Speaker 9: It's so with crossbit obviously, the idea is, you know,
• 29:25
  Speaker 9: without getting too nerdy in it, you know, you don't
• 29:28
  Speaker 9: want to be the strongest guy in the room. You
• 29:30
  Speaker 9: don't want to be the guy that has the most power,
• 29:32
  Speaker 9: But you also don't want to be the you know, long,
• 29:34
  Speaker 9: slow guy. You want to kind of be a mix
• 29:36
  Speaker 9: or have have some ability at each of those spots.
• 29:40
  Speaker 8: And so yeah, the idea is, like, man, we just
• 29:43
  Speaker 8: want to be.
• 29:43
  Speaker 9: As prepared for the mountains, preferably, you know, that's where
• 29:47
  Speaker 9: my heart is. We got a bunch of guys here
• 29:48
  Speaker 9: that are Eastern hunters, and I've in the last little
• 29:51
  Speaker 9: bit started doing some white tail, but my heart's still
• 29:53
  Speaker 9: out west as much as uh, you know, I'm stuck.
• 29:56
  Speaker 8: Here in Tennessee.
• 29:57
  Speaker 9: But you know, we're going on two l hunts and
• 30:00
  Speaker 9: the next couple of weeks archery, and so just being
• 30:02
  Speaker 9: prepared for that me personally, but also taking that and
• 30:07
  Speaker 9: just helping people that want to go out and be
• 30:10
  Speaker 9: able to go after something.
• 30:14
  Speaker 1: What tell me I was thinking about this? I had
• 30:16
  Speaker 1: some during that one hundred mile race. There are some
• 30:18
  Speaker 1: real low points. Oh yeah, I could probably I could
• 30:21
  Speaker 1: point to a couple of moments that were like what
• 30:23
  Speaker 1: I would describe is the hardest, And we'll get to that.
• 30:26
  Speaker 1: I'm actually gonna come down and visit rich and we're
• 30:28
  Speaker 1: gonna talk about this business. But uh, what in all
• 30:34
  Speaker 1: of your career of competing and CrossFit, is there a
• 30:38
  Speaker 1: moment that stands out to you where you're like, oh,
• 30:40
  Speaker 1: during this competition and this moment, I struggled and had
• 30:45
  Speaker 1: to get through this low point to to make it
• 30:47
  Speaker 1: to the other side.
• 30:49
  Speaker 8: Man, I probably had too many to list.
• 30:51
  Speaker 9: Probably the most infamous one was my first CrossFit Games
• 30:56
  Speaker 9: as an individual. I you know, the final event I
• 30:58
  Speaker 9: was leading going into the final and a rope climb
• 31:02
  Speaker 9: is the There was like a three part event and
• 31:04
  Speaker 9: the final part was a rope climb with some burpees
• 31:07
  Speaker 9: in there, And really didn't think anything about it until
• 31:09
  Speaker 9: I started getting to the rope and having done two
• 31:11
  Speaker 9: workouts before that, just couldn't get up the rope.
• 31:13
  Speaker 8: A lot of guys are using their feet.
• 31:15
  Speaker 9: When I was a kid, my dad told me not
• 31:16
  Speaker 9: to use my feet because that's for you know, use
• 31:19
  Speaker 9: whatever acronym you want to use, or whatever do you
• 31:21
  Speaker 9: want to use their I didn't know if it's PG
• 31:23
  Speaker 9: or PG thirteen show, and so I just never used
• 31:25
  Speaker 9: my feet. And so all these guys are going up
• 31:27
  Speaker 9: and down the rope. Well, I got up in a
• 31:29
  Speaker 9: couple times and fell pretty good. I think it was
• 31:32
  Speaker 9: about twenty feet. There's if you type in rich Frohning
• 31:35
  Speaker 9: falls off rope on YouTube, you're welcome. But man, yeah,
• 31:38
  Speaker 9: you just I ended up losing the Cross of the
• 31:40
  Speaker 9: Games by three points, which is three places throughout the
• 31:43
  Speaker 9: whole weekend.
• 31:44
  Speaker 8: And man, I was just in a bad spot.
• 31:46
  Speaker 9: And so you know, there's different things that you can
• 31:48
  Speaker 9: look back on, and man, I just I hate losing.
• 31:51
  Speaker 8: I hate being that guy that It's just I.
• 31:54
  Speaker 9: Was born into a family of thirty two first cousins,
• 31:57
  Speaker 9: twenty five of us are boys. My entire life has
• 31:59
  Speaker 9: been a petition and so I hate losing, I hate failure,
• 32:03
  Speaker 9: I hate all that.
• 32:04
  Speaker 8: So man, it just used it as a motivator.
• 32:06
  Speaker 9: In the next couple of years, I was like man,
• 32:08
  Speaker 9: I don't want to have that shame and you know,
• 32:10
  Speaker 9: huge in my faith, and so that was a that
• 32:11
  Speaker 9: was a big kind of a eye opener to that
• 32:13
  Speaker 9: of like, man, just do it for something else, do
• 32:16
  Speaker 9: it for something bigger than just yourself.
• 32:20
  Speaker 1: Awesome, it sounds like quite the fall. I'm definitely youtubing
• 32:23
  Speaker 1: that I ain't random yeah pulled up.
• 32:26
  Speaker 2: I don't know if the sounds on my computer, so
• 32:28
  Speaker 2: I don't want to fire it up right now, but
• 32:29
  Speaker 2: it's lined up all.
• 32:30
  Speaker 8: Right, always ready.
• 32:32
  Speaker 1: Rich Richie mentioned Joel Turner, kip uh uh me who
• 32:38
  Speaker 1: else you got that's uh that's coming on to talk
• 32:41
  Speaker 1: on in pursuit that you're excited about. Man, we had.
• 32:44
  Speaker 8: Andy Gallpin and doctor Andy Gallpin.
• 32:46
  Speaker 7: He's a.
• 32:48
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 32:48
  Speaker 9: Man, that was a cool meat. You know, being a nerd,
• 32:50
  Speaker 9: being a fitness nerd. Uh, this is my background, is
• 32:53
  Speaker 9: my degree in so being able to like nerd out on.
• 32:56
  Speaker 8: That type of stuff was a ton of fun.
• 32:58
  Speaker 9: I've got another guy, Todd Anderson, which is he's become
• 33:01
  Speaker 9: a friend of mine.
• 33:02
  Speaker 8: He's really into sleep.
• 33:03
  Speaker 9: That'll be a ton of fun of like you know
• 33:05
  Speaker 9: what we think just some minor changes you can make
• 33:08
  Speaker 9: to improve performance, because I think one of the biggest
• 33:11
  Speaker 9: things in recovery is sleep. We've got a couple of
• 33:15
  Speaker 9: new maybe some nutrition has lined up, and athletic therapists
• 33:18
  Speaker 9: or an athletic trainer.
• 33:19
  Speaker 8: So just like you know, we all see the.
• 33:21
  Speaker 9: Like CrossFit style stuff or the ultra and durant stuff,
• 33:25
  Speaker 9: but you know, the taking care of your body when
• 33:28
  Speaker 9: you're not in the gym or not, you know, training
• 33:30
  Speaker 9: for something even outdoors.
• 33:32
  Speaker 1: I can tell you that was my favorite part about
• 33:34
  Speaker 1: running one hundred miles was the two weeks of recovery
• 33:37
  Speaker 1: and taking that very seriously, which basically means you just
• 33:40
  Speaker 1: sleep your ass off, sleep lot of naps. Is this
• 33:44
  Speaker 1: guy you're gonna talk to, is he a nap proponent,
• 33:46
  Speaker 1: because I've been hearing that some people.
• 33:49
  Speaker 8: We didn't really we haven't gotten into it yet. He's
• 33:51
  Speaker 8: coming on in the.
• 33:52
  Speaker 9: Next couple of weeks. Man, I can't nap. I just
• 33:56
  Speaker 9: my brain doesn't shut off.
• 33:57
  Speaker 1: During the day.
• 33:57
  Speaker 8: As bad as that sounds like, once I'm up, I'm up.
• 34:01
  Speaker 8: And so we'll see.
• 34:03
  Speaker 2: Man.
• 34:03
  Speaker 8: Now I'll ask him about naps. I'll make sure to
• 34:05
  Speaker 8: put that one on there. When we're on there, I'll
• 34:06
  Speaker 8: say johnis wants to know about naps.
• 34:08
  Speaker 1: Oh, definitely, yeah, because I listened to one. I think
• 34:10
  Speaker 1: it was actually on Gallup and Show. He was talking
• 34:12
  Speaker 1: to sleep researcher from the Army, and a couple of
• 34:15
  Speaker 1: big takeaways was one, Yeah, naps are great, don't go
• 34:19
  Speaker 1: over twenty minutes. And then Lebron James takes three to
• 34:22
  Speaker 1: four a day.
• 34:23
  Speaker 2: That's what I was going to say. Napping is huge
• 34:25
  Speaker 2: in the NBA, especially with late tip offs.
• 34:28
  Speaker 9: Yeah, yeah, that would do it. So, yeah, you gotta
• 34:31
  Speaker 9: control those cortisol fluctuations.
• 34:33
  Speaker 1: So and I mean, you want to talk about a
• 34:35
  Speaker 1: crossover for ELK Cunting. If I don't get my midday
• 34:39
  Speaker 1: nap in on ELK Hunt, I am just I'm going
• 34:41
  Speaker 1: to be going.
• 34:42
  Speaker 2: Down hill a little reset.
• 34:44
  Speaker 1: I gotta get that little midday napping, all right, man.
• 34:47
  Speaker 1: I'll look forward to hearing some episodes. Where can we
• 34:51
  Speaker 1: find in pursuit.
• 34:53
  Speaker 9: The mediat podcast network, it's I think today we just
• 34:56
  Speaker 9: dropped the one with we Kip was two we weeks
• 35:00
  Speaker 9: ago and this today was Joel Turner.
• 35:02
  Speaker 8: So those will be on there on I guess the
• 35:05
  Speaker 8: channel that this.
• 35:06
  Speaker 1: Is on, so perfect we'll check them out there well,
• 35:08
  Speaker 1: thanks for cod joining us taking time away from your
• 35:11
  Speaker 1: busy day. And yeah, I look forward to hanging out
• 35:14
  Speaker 1: in Nashville here and I can get down there to
• 35:16
  Speaker 1: talk running.
• 35:17
  Speaker 8: Come on, boys, appreciate it all right?
• 35:19
  Speaker 1: Thanks? Rich?
• 35:20
  Speaker 2: See it?
• 35:23
  Speaker 1: Okay? That was Rich frowning the In Pursuit podcast. I
• 35:28
  Speaker 1: haven't listened yet, but I need to, especially if he's
• 35:30
  Speaker 1: gonna talk start talking about sleep. Man, I'm into staying
• 35:33
  Speaker 1: up on my sleep.
• 35:34
  Speaker 2: Nothing like talking about sleep.
• 35:36
  Speaker 1: I'm serious.
• 35:37
  Speaker 2: I know, I know, I'm serious, but it's also sort
• 35:40
  Speaker 2: of funny.
• 35:40
  Speaker 1: It is it is, but people like you just said,
• 35:43
  Speaker 1: people don't take it seriously enough. Man, you're not performing
• 35:47
  Speaker 1: at like.
• 35:48
  Speaker 2: I can't even sleep in the night time.
• 35:49
  Speaker 3: But yeah, oh I take my sleep very seriously.
• 35:53
  Speaker 1: Well, everybody does. But I feel for you because I
• 35:56
  Speaker 1: know a lot of not a lot, but I know
• 35:57
  Speaker 1: quite a few people in my life that don't have. Sorry,
• 36:00
  Speaker 1: guests to have a hard time.
• 36:02
  Speaker 2: In bed, well, in bed for hours just staring at
• 36:05
  Speaker 2: the walls. Get up, walk around.
• 36:08
  Speaker 1: Go read a book, take a cold shower, read.
• 36:11
  Speaker 2: Until my eyes closed on the page, and then do
• 36:13
  Speaker 2: that three more times and then I'm probably ready. Okay,
• 36:16
  Speaker 2: working through the right stuff right now, book about airplanes
• 36:20
  Speaker 2: and uh space travel about the astronauts. Actually right as
• 36:23
  Speaker 2: in w R as in r I t h r
• 36:26
  Speaker 2: r r I t h l r I g H
• 36:29
  Speaker 2: try sleep yeah, Chuck Yeager.
• 36:34
  Speaker 1: All right, real quick, this won't take five minutes. Moultree
• 36:38
  Speaker 1: Mobile Trailcam. I say that, guys because in my little
• 36:41
  Speaker 1: script here it says roughly how long these little bits.
• 36:44
  Speaker 2: It's good. We can make up some time here.
• 36:46
  Speaker 1: Moby Moultree Mobile Trailcam Photo Contest Round three. Okay, it's
• 36:52
  Speaker 1: called titled Big Bull Elk. You can go to how
• 36:57
  Speaker 1: to enter your photographs. You go to there can be
• 37:00
  Speaker 1: article I think we're dropping it today on Mediatter website
• 37:03
  Speaker 1: and you can submit your Big Bull Elk Trail Camp photos.
• 37:07
  Speaker 1: We'll pick the top four photos to showcase during next
• 37:11
  Speaker 1: week's show and then have the chat. So if you
• 37:15
  Speaker 1: come and listen next week live, you're gonna get to
• 37:17
  Speaker 1: actually pick the winner. The chat will do it.
• 37:20
  Speaker 2: Prizes are tell them what they're gonna win you, honess.
• 37:22
  Speaker 1: Here you go two Edge two first light Spectr Camo
• 37:27
  Speaker 1: addition Moultari cameras with ten watt solar power pack bundles
• 37:33
  Speaker 1: I can't say enough about those solar pack bundles. Man,
• 37:36
  Speaker 1: it makes them completely hands off. The cameras are hands off.
• 37:40
  Speaker 1: Now if they could now just make a function where
• 37:43
  Speaker 1: the solar panel usually kind of well, the one that's
• 37:45
  Speaker 1: attached comes out of the top. A lot of them
• 37:47
  Speaker 1: have separate solar panels that you just attach the cord,
• 37:50
  Speaker 1: which actually like better because that way you can have
• 37:52
  Speaker 1: the solar panel facing south camera facing north. But what
• 37:55
  Speaker 1: they need now is another thing where a set of
• 37:58
  Speaker 1: like big clippers comes out of the bottom. Because what
• 38:01
  Speaker 1: happens to me is I set them up in the spring,
• 38:03
  Speaker 1: nothing's growing, and then right about now, all of a sudden,
• 38:07
  Speaker 1: it's like this in front of my cameras. And most
• 38:09
  Speaker 1: you just needs to have a little thing that comes
• 38:11
  Speaker 1: out and just and can reach out about three feet and.
• 38:14
  Speaker 3: If the dowse the stuff around the camera with some herbicide.
• 38:19
  Speaker 1: Listen that has thought that thought has crossed my mind,
• 38:23
  Speaker 1: All right.
• 38:23
  Speaker 2: Well then I get a drone that'll just hang them
• 38:26
  Speaker 2: for you. Be set.
• 38:28
  Speaker 1: There's three prizes. It doesn't say if there's like a
• 38:31
  Speaker 1: number one, number two, number three prize. They're all good prizes.
• 38:33
  Speaker 1: Prize number two, two hundred and fifty dollars gift card
• 38:36
  Speaker 1: to the Meat Eater store, a two hundred and fifty
• 38:40
  Speaker 1: dollars gift card to First Lights, my goodness, and prize four.
• 38:43
  Speaker 1: I'm sorry, there's four prizes. A case knives, Brent Reeves
• 38:48
  Speaker 1: signature mini trapper knife.
• 38:50
  Speaker 3: Yeah it donet the winner.
• 38:51
  Speaker 2: Just get all that stuff that seems excessive.
• 38:55
  Speaker 3: Oh maybe maybe, Phil, Have we just been picking one
• 38:59
  Speaker 3: winner for those, haven't we?
• 39:00
  Speaker 1: Damn?
• 39:01
  Speaker 4: Yeah, one winner gets everything?
• 39:03
  Speaker 3: Oh my god.
• 39:04
  Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, I gotta set up some trail cameras.
• 39:08
  Speaker 1: Get a quick, awesome bull elk picture. My guess if
• 39:13
  Speaker 1: if I could just like look into the future a
• 39:15
  Speaker 1: little bit, h it's gonna be something with a bull
• 39:18
  Speaker 1: elk in a wallow.
• 39:20
  Speaker 3: That's a typical spot for a trail cam.
• 39:23
  Speaker 1: Yep. And you get some water splashing, maybe a bowl
• 39:26
  Speaker 1: on his back pissing all over himself.
• 39:30
  Speaker 3: You could put it on a telephone pole outside man
• 39:32
  Speaker 3: with mammoth hot springs too.
• 39:34
  Speaker 5: And you do all right?
• 39:35
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, I don't know if the park's gonna let
• 39:37
  Speaker 1: you put a camera.
• 39:38
  Speaker 2: Just keep it quiet.
• 39:40
  Speaker 1: Okay. Now we're on to uh answering a few questions
• 39:43
  Speaker 1: from the chat Phil, What do we got to that?
• 39:45
  Speaker 3: Yeah?
• 39:45
  Speaker 4: And Jannis already said so, just to reiterate, the article
• 39:47
  Speaker 4: is not up yet, but it will be up later today. Okay,
• 39:50
  Speaker 4: So yeah, keep your If you want to check back
• 39:52
  Speaker 4: this evening on the Mediator dot com, it should be
• 39:54
  Speaker 4: pretty obvious. Submit you're it's a multi trail cam.
• 39:56
  Speaker 1: Foot you know what is up right now? Though, Phil
• 39:59
  Speaker 1: is my most recent on the Hunt episode. Right went
• 40:01
  Speaker 1: to Wyoming to shoot a prong horn. Check that out
• 40:05
  Speaker 1: trophy prong horn trophy. I was going for a trophy.
• 40:09
  Speaker 1: I learned a lot about judging trophy prong horn on
• 40:12
  Speaker 1: this trip.
• 40:13
  Speaker 4: You guys want to watch Rich fall off of a rope?
• 40:15
  Speaker 1: Yes?
• 40:15
  Speaker 2: Please?
• 40:15
  Speaker 4: Okay I felt bad doing it when he was on
• 40:18
  Speaker 4: the line.
• 40:19
  Speaker 1: But here's Rich going up. He's only using his arms.
• 40:22
  Speaker 3: Oh dang, Rich, that's a that could have been a
• 40:27
  Speaker 3: broken tailbad there. And that Spartan race me and Hayden did.
• 40:32
  Speaker 3: We watched a guy you gotta swing from ring to ring,
• 40:35
  Speaker 3: you know, yeah, and a big muscular guy like Rich
• 40:39
  Speaker 3: made the big long swing but didn't hold on, landed
• 40:42
  Speaker 3: a flat on his back and broke his collar bone
• 40:44
  Speaker 3: like we heard it snap?
• 40:47
  Speaker 1: How did you do on those rings?
• 40:49
  Speaker 3: I did alright, because I'm like skinny and spry.
• 40:53
  Speaker 1: Oh wait, till right, right, right right? Yeah, dang, that
• 40:58
  Speaker 1: looks rough and he's still took third place.
• 41:00
  Speaker 2: Have you ever broken your tailbone?
• 41:02
  Speaker 1: No, it's not fun. I mean I've had it. Would
• 41:05
  Speaker 1: you do it? Have you done it?
• 41:06
  Speaker 5: Yeah?
• 41:07
  Speaker 2: There a story playing basketball post the guy up he
• 41:10
  Speaker 2: thought it'd be funny to just wap with a knee.
• 41:13
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, oh that did it?
• 41:15
  Speaker 2: Yeah, no kidding, Well it was awful, awful your.
• 41:19
  Speaker 3: Cosicks, Randall, can't take those hard fouls.
• 41:23
  Speaker 2: Nope.
• 41:24
  Speaker 1: I like the fact that you're a you're a b
• 41:26
  Speaker 1: ball player. I'm gonna get my hoop down here from
• 41:30
  Speaker 1: my house.
• 41:31
  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, and then in the winter time we should
• 41:33
  Speaker 2: set up in my barn and Max.
• 41:34
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, that's a good idea. I know that we
• 41:37
  Speaker 1: have Max, you and uh Nick Tapia. All right, let's
• 41:45
  Speaker 1: get a question in Phil.
• 41:46
  Speaker 4: Sure, it's good a question and uh let's see here,
• 41:51
  Speaker 4: Trey Woods is asking for some cruise score predictions for
• 41:55
  Speaker 4: the tailgate Tour, something like college Game Day. Randall, you
• 41:57
  Speaker 4: got any predictions predictions you want to you want to share,
• 42:00
  Speaker 4: at least for the game you're going to.
• 42:02
  Speaker 2: I guess what I'm thinking is I just don't want
• 42:06
  Speaker 2: them to lose at home first game of the season.
• 42:11
  Speaker 2: It's gonna be really coming as defending national champions. I mean,
• 42:16
  Speaker 2: there's just there's a lot of pressure in arch Manning.
• 42:19
  Speaker 2: I mean, I don't know. I just it's gonna be
• 42:22
  Speaker 2: a bad scene if they lose. So I'm thinking positive thoughts,
• 42:25
  Speaker 2: but as you can tell, I'm also thinking negative thoughts.
• 42:27
  Speaker 1: So well. They still have that literal highlight reel of
• 42:32
  Speaker 1: a wide Jeremiah Smith. Yeah, that guy is incredible Jeremiah Smith.
• 42:36
  Speaker 2: For Heisman.
• 42:37
  Speaker 4: That was actually one of the questions here, Randall, was
• 42:40
  Speaker 4: your predictions for Heisman this year?
• 42:41
  Speaker 2: You want to know some Heisman trivia?
• 42:44
  Speaker 1: Yeah.
• 42:44
  Speaker 2: The figure on the statue, uh huh. That's Jay Berwanger.
• 42:49
  Speaker 2: It's a quarterback at the University of Chicago back when
• 42:52
  Speaker 2: we were at Powerhouse.
• 42:54
  Speaker 3: Mhmm. Interesting.
• 42:56
  Speaker 1: I like that, Randall. You're full of stuff like that. Yeah.
• 42:58
  Speaker 4: Another one Phil that was from Trey John asks Jannis,
• 43:02
  Speaker 4: have you seen anyone doing a one hundred k barefoot?
• 43:05
  Speaker 1: Nope, I haven't.
• 43:07
  Speaker 4: Is that a thing that happens?
• 43:09
  Speaker 1: I think maybe a little bit there's there's some of
• 43:13
  Speaker 1: that barefoot or like super minimalist shoe stuff going on.
• 43:18
  Speaker 1: The thing you see sometimes there's these running sandals that
• 43:24
  Speaker 1: they are they're very minimalists. I mean, I mean the
• 43:26
  Speaker 1: soul is flat and it's like a quarter inch and
• 43:29
  Speaker 1: then there's just a couple straps going over the foot
• 43:32
  Speaker 1: to hold the soul underneath you. That's the closest I've
• 43:35
  Speaker 1: seen to anybody doing one of these barefoot, and I
• 43:39
  Speaker 1: don't know if you if you train in it, they
• 43:41
  Speaker 1: probably finish.
• 43:45
  Speaker 2: Sorry I misspoke. Jay Burwanger with a halfback.
• 43:48
  Speaker 4: Uh hm, I'm disappointed. Nathan asks crew, what are some
• 43:53
  Speaker 4: planed slash traditions that you have on Labor Day weekend?
• 43:57
  Speaker 4: If you have any. Do you guys have any sort
• 43:58
  Speaker 4: of go to activities or stuff to do with the.
• 44:01
  Speaker 3: Family, camping, fishing and or hunting.
• 44:05
  Speaker 2: Yeah, camping. It's a great camping weekend, it is. It
• 44:10
  Speaker 2: is just send off to the summer before.
• 44:13
  Speaker 1: Yeah, we're gonna do a little barbecue with the neighbors.
• 44:17
  Speaker 1: Catch up. We haven't seen him in a little while.
• 44:20
  Speaker 1: My oldest daughter just made Pat on her back again
• 44:23
  Speaker 1: twice in one episode. She made the Bosman high school
• 44:28
  Speaker 1: freshman volleyball team, the A team, and I've now realized
• 44:33
  Speaker 1: that it's a fall sport and it's going to affect
• 44:37
  Speaker 1: our fall activities.
• 44:38
  Speaker 3: Oh yeah, my son's figuring that out with the cross country.
• 44:42
  Speaker 9: Yeah.
• 44:43
  Speaker 1: Luckily for you season, they don't. It's not gonna affect.
• 44:47
  Speaker 3: It's not We're good for Antelope opener and U season.
• 44:50
  Speaker 1: All right, all right, and those are the two big
• 44:51
  Speaker 1: ones for us right now. Do you want to do
• 44:54
  Speaker 1: another one? Phil?
• 44:55
  Speaker 8: Yeah?
• 44:55
  Speaker 4: I don't know how much has been announced or how
• 44:57
  Speaker 4: much we can say, but az Or King asks, when
• 45:01
  Speaker 4: is the Mediator crew going to do live podcast tours again?
• 45:04
  Speaker 2: I don't think we can say. Okay, I would say
• 45:06
  Speaker 2: just that right, Just keep your eyes I don't want to.
• 45:09
  Speaker 4: Do it open. I don't want to do I'm not
• 45:11
  Speaker 4: doing anything.
• 45:11
  Speaker 2: I'm not gonna just stay posted.
• 45:13
  Speaker 4: It'll hang on, keep your eyes open.
• 45:15
  Speaker 1: Yeah, it's not gonna be yeah.
• 45:17
  Speaker 4: Yeah, I don't know about like the I.
• 45:19
  Speaker 3: Don't even think you should have clicked on this question
• 45:21
  Speaker 3: the optimy and stay posted.
• 45:24
  Speaker 4: There, Brodie.
• 45:24
  Speaker 1: Yeah, if you like live in the southeast part of
• 45:27
  Speaker 1: the country, you're probably gonna be pretty excited.
• 45:31
  Speaker 2: I get a call from the c suite here in
• 45:33
  Speaker 2: a minute.
• 45:34
  Speaker 1: If nobody has said we can't talk about it, so
• 45:37
  Speaker 1: what the hell?
• 45:38
  Speaker 2: I just assume I can't talk about it anymore. They
• 45:40
  Speaker 2: tell me lines of communication around here. If they're gonna
• 45:42
  Speaker 2: be mad, Let's move on.
• 45:44
  Speaker 3: We got a lot of stuff to cover.
• 45:46
  Speaker 4: All right, all right, all right, Bernie says, no more questions.
• 45:49
  Speaker 4: All right, sorry, I guess we can do a lot.
• 45:52
  Speaker 2: We can do a long ending question session.
• 45:54
  Speaker 1: On to our next interview. Many of you know Parker
• 45:59
  Speaker 1: Hall from me Eater season eight episode Flathead Catfish and
• 46:03
  Speaker 1: Gray Squirrels, where he taught Steve how to eat sunflower
• 46:07
  Speaker 1: seeds properly, specifically had to build a little gravy in
• 46:11
  Speaker 1: the seeds. This was alongside bank poll fishing for flatheads
• 46:16
  Speaker 1: and squirrel hunting with his feiz Ruby. This episode is
• 46:20
  Speaker 1: recently released on the YouTube channel as part of season
• 46:24
  Speaker 1: eight being released there that started I think about a
• 46:27
  Speaker 1: month ago. This is the first episode in season eight.
• 46:31
  Speaker 1: Highly recommend you check it out.
• 46:33
  Speaker 3: There's a very good tutorial on how to fry fish
• 46:36
  Speaker 3: the right way in there too.
• 46:38
  Speaker 1: Yes, I still do things that I learned from Parker
• 46:42
  Speaker 1: on that trip. One being speaking of fried fish. Parker's
• 46:45
  Speaker 1: probably he's not on yet. He can't even talk. I'm
• 46:49
  Speaker 1: talking for him. But Parker seasons his fish before bredding it,
• 46:54
  Speaker 1: which I think is crucial. The other day we did
• 46:56
  Speaker 1: a breading that had mixed sizes of the breading itself,
• 47:00
  Speaker 1: like there was some panco, there was some flowers, some cornstarch.
• 47:03
  Speaker 1: As the breading got used up, the big stuff the
• 47:07
  Speaker 1: panco was gone. It was turning into a just flour
• 47:10
  Speaker 1: and corn starts breading, which is why, if you think
• 47:13
  Speaker 1: about it, salt and pepper are similarly sized, right, They're fine.
• 47:16
  Speaker 1: And that's why Parker does all seasons of fish first,
• 47:19
  Speaker 1: because if it's in your breading, that salt and pepper
• 47:22
  Speaker 1: are not getting onto the fish as much as whatever
• 47:25
  Speaker 1: bigger chunks of breading you have on there. Say it's
• 47:28
  Speaker 1: corn meal or whatever, right, So if you want even seasoning,
• 47:31
  Speaker 1: you gotta season the fish first. Thanks Parker. All right,
• 47:35
  Speaker 1: let's see.
• 47:38
  Speaker 4: Watching this cannot say anything. Okay, let's see, we don't
• 47:43
  Speaker 4: even We don't even need to bring him on anymore.
• 47:45
  Speaker 4: I think you just covered it.
• 47:49
  Speaker 1: Parker and I stay in touch via text, usually sending
• 47:53
  Speaker 1: each other videos of our dogs barking on trail or
• 47:56
  Speaker 1: treat if you know you know. Work is the state
• 48:01
  Speaker 1: director of the USDA's Wildlife Services Florida program, and his
• 48:05
  Speaker 1: main focus is alleviating damages associated with ferreal swan. This
• 48:10
  Speaker 1: includes protection of agriculture, natural resources, threatened and endangered species,
• 48:15
  Speaker 1: and disease monitoring. Today he's joining us while he's taking
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  Speaker 1: DNA samples from chapped hogs that are threatening sea turtles?
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  Speaker 1: Did you know that that could be a thing? No,
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  Speaker 1: Welcome to the show, Parker. Oh I can't hear him.
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  Speaker 4: I don't think it's my fun. I got your mic on, Parker.
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  Speaker 5: How about now.
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  Speaker 1: Led it. Did you like that introduction, Parker?
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  Speaker 5: That was great.
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  Speaker 7: That was perfect introduction and also perfect description of why
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  Speaker 7: you should bread, I mean season your fish first.
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  Speaker 5: Excellent, excellent description. Perfect o.
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  Speaker 1: Kay I see that you have a it looks to
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  Speaker 1: be either a dead or a neesssized pig in front
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  Speaker 1: of you. What are you doing with that thing?
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  Speaker 5: So thank you for the introduction and good overview.
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  Speaker 7: This this is a dead pig, not an esecized So
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  Speaker 7: something we do in the state is protect, like you said, agriculture,
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  Speaker 7: threatened dangerous species, sea turtles, people, who are trying to
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  Speaker 7: manage their land and being overrun with pigs. We are
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  Speaker 7: not actually doing sea trouble protection day, although we do
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  Speaker 7: it all over the state. This is a land manager
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  Speaker 7: that's trying to manage here in turkeys and warm seasoned
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  Speaker 7: grasses and all those kind of things. So we had
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  Speaker 7: a group of pigs captured today, and part of what
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  Speaker 7: we do with USDA Wildlife Services is also monitor for diseases.
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  Speaker 7: There's a number of diseases that we take samples we
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  Speaker 7: take and we look at, including pseudo rabies, brucellosis, classical
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  Speaker 7: swine fever, African swine fever, we look some of the
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  Speaker 7: flu viruses HPAI, all sorts of things. So as part
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  Speaker 7: of that, all the pigs that we capture we do
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  Speaker 7: take samples of them. And I was just going to
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  Speaker 7: kind of go through that today and show you guys
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  Speaker 7: what we take and then if there's any questions you
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  Speaker 7: have about what we're looking for, why we're looking.
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  Speaker 1: For it, that'd be perfect, all right, So move on,
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  Speaker 1: all right.
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  Speaker 5: So we have to do is make sure we put
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  Speaker 5: on our ppe. It's kind of.
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  Speaker 7: It's good to wear ppe when you're taking samples and
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  Speaker 7: dealing with fero swine, and most of you guys know.
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  Speaker 7: And one thing that we deal with in the Southeast,
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  Speaker 7: particular with fero swine to an extent, is sudor rabies
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  Speaker 7: and brucellosis. So sudor rabies is not a zoonotic disease,
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  Speaker 7: meaning we can't people can't get it, but brucellosis you can.
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  Speaker 7: And for those of you that are cleaning feral swine
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  Speaker 7: and those things that the brucellosis kind of hangs out
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  Speaker 7: in the reproductive tract and the lactating areas and those
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  Speaker 7: kind of things, it's always a good idea to use
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  Speaker 7: use some protection when you're when you're cleaning ferris wine,
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  Speaker 7: if you're if you're gonna consume them, and all these
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  Speaker 7: diseases that we're talking about, some of them could be
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  Speaker 7: transferred to people, some can't, but it's they're all all
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  Speaker 7: killed if you cook it to.
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  Speaker 5: A proper temperature. So something The first thing I'm gona
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  Speaker 5: do is gonna take some blood.
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  Speaker 7: Hopefully this animal has been dead for some time, so
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  Speaker 7: hopefully it's not convealed too much, so pressure's on. What
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  Speaker 7: I'm doing is trying to make a heart stick and
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  Speaker 7: going in the top of the heart and then that
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  Speaker 7: goes into a vial and these these vals are pressureised
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  Speaker 7: as you could see. All right, that's this goes into
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  Speaker 7: my collection kit. Then I'll take a couple more samples.
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  Speaker 7: This next sample, I'll just get a little drop of
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  Speaker 7: blood and put it on a on a Q tip
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  Speaker 7: and then that goes in some media which I cannot open.
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  Speaker 7: Get m Q tip out.
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  Speaker 1: Hey Parker, if you've got a helper there, would you
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  Speaker 1: mind asking them just to angle that camera just up
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  Speaker 1: just the hair. We're mostly looking at the bottom half
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  Speaker 1: of your faith.
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  Speaker 5: Okay, how's that there?
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  Speaker 9: We go?
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  Speaker 1: Perfect better?
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  Speaker 5: Okay, good, all right? And this this goes into media.
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  Speaker 7: And this, this one particular, is looking for a foreign
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  Speaker 7: animal's eve African swine fever. We don't we do not
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  Speaker 7: have that in in the United States, but it's in
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  Speaker 7: Haiti and and down that those type of areas. It's
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  Speaker 7: in Africa. It's pretty bad. We don't want it in
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  Speaker 7: in feral swine in the United States. And the reason
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  Speaker 7: we look for a lot of these diseases and feral
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  Speaker 7: swine is for protection of our domestics. So some of
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  Speaker 7: them we used to have we've eradicated and we're trying
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  Speaker 7: to keep them out. The feral swine all over the
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  Speaker 7: country can act as a reservoir, right, so if a
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  Speaker 7: disease gets in those wild population, it's much more difficult to.
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  Speaker 5: Get rid of or treat or do whatever you need
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  Speaker 5: to do.
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  Speaker 7: The ones that are in captivity and the ones we
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  Speaker 7: use are for food source, we could treat those animals
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  Speaker 7: and kind of stamp out diseases. So it's really bad
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  Speaker 7: if they get in the in the in the wild.
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  Speaker 7: Try to keep them, you know, try to keep monitoring
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  Speaker 7: and if we see something, then we can take proper
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  Speaker 7: precautions and talk with our state ag and our state
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  Speaker 7: wildlife agencies and then they can take the steps that
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  Speaker 7: they're they're going to do.
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  Speaker 5: So got that one, and the last sample I'll take
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  Speaker 5: off of this animal is DNA genetic sample. That's just
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  Speaker 5: an air clip. We take that and put that into
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  Speaker 5: this media and then that scent.
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  Speaker 7: And what we're trying to do in us A is
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  Speaker 7: get a map of feral swine all over the all
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  Speaker 7: over the continental in.
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  Speaker 5: The United States, to see movements, to see.
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  Speaker 7: If animals came from one area been relocated to another area,
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  Speaker 7: Try to stop translocation, try to see natural movements and
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  Speaker 7: how they're doing.
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  Speaker 5: Pigger pigs are.
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  Speaker 7: Really taken off all over the country and we're learning
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  Speaker 7: a lot of valuable information using this genetic technique.
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  Speaker 5: So those are the three main samples that we would get.
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  Speaker 7: That all goes onto a data sheet and you can
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  Speaker 7: notice they have these bar codes, so when we send
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  Speaker 7: that in, the bar code matches with the vile scan
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  Speaker 7: scan scan and goes into you know, the list. And
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  Speaker 7: then all of our exile Excel spreadsheets get sent to
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  Speaker 7: us and people go through those and take them, take
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  Speaker 7: a look and see what our prevalence prevalences are. Like
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  Speaker 7: I said, mostly in the southeast sud AB's brucellosis is
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  Speaker 7: the ones we have and along with trip trick and
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  Speaker 7: osis leftoh those those types of things. We also we
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  Speaker 7: also look and when we first get the animal, we
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  Speaker 7: just kind of go over it and see if there's
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  Speaker 7: any lesions or anything that look that's looking abnormal. And
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  Speaker 7: if there there are something we see some blistering, some
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  Speaker 7: sluffing of the hoofs, then we contact our our state
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  Speaker 7: veterinarians and maybe get them involved to see if there's
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  Speaker 7: something that that you know, was on the landscape that
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  Speaker 7: we haven't seen or something we don't want.
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  Speaker 3: Hey, Parker, like what percentage of the pigs you're examining
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  Speaker 3: have one of these diseases? Like can you make a
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  Speaker 3: ballpark on that?
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  Speaker 5: Actually know the answer to that? Oh about if I
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  Speaker 5: believe it or not?
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  Speaker 7: About twenty five percent of the pigs that we have
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  Speaker 7: in Florida are positive for pseudo RABS.
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  Speaker 5: Now let me say that's that's not not it so
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  Speaker 5: people can't get it.
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  Speaker 7: But it's fatal in dogs and some other animals and
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  Speaker 7: a little to a lesser extent brucellosis, which is about
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  Speaker 7: fifteen percent or so, so it isn't.
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  Speaker 1: I have lots of questions, but if you guys have some,
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  Speaker 1: please go.
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  Speaker 2: I don't have a question. I just wanted to say
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  Speaker 2: that had I known you were waiting with a dead
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  Speaker 2: hog for us, I would have insisted that we interview
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  Speaker 2: you first, so you'dn't have to sit there with your
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  Speaker 2: dead hog and your ppe for forty five minutes. But
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  Speaker 2: appreciate you having your own Parker.
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  Speaker 1: You met a world. You mentioned the translocation and that
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  Speaker 1: your guys are kind of keeping an eye on that.
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  Speaker 1: I'm assuming that that's being done by humans and that
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  Speaker 1: it's probably being done by hunters that want to hunt
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  Speaker 1: berreal swine in their area. Is that true? Is that
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  Speaker 1: what you guys are fighting a little bit.
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  Speaker 7: Yeah, that's what we find. So USDA is non regulatory.
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  Speaker 7: But if we have a new population show up where
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  Speaker 7: they've never been before in the middle of the country,
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  Speaker 7: we're able to some of those and then we work
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  Speaker 7: with our state game and fish agencies. I feel like
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  Speaker 7: these came from you know, we're in South Dakota and
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  Speaker 7: these genetically go back to Orlando or whatever that area.
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  Speaker 7: So there's some valuable information that's that's being gained there,
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  Speaker 7: and we can tell that there's certain areas in the
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  Speaker 7: country where a lot of pigs are coming from. And
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  Speaker 7: it's it's pretty neat stuff to be able to see
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  Speaker 7: where those hogs are being moved from and where to.
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  Speaker 5: So yes, can you right?
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  Speaker 1: I was just going to say, can you just tell
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  Speaker 1: us just quickly as we can spread the message of
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  Speaker 1: why translocating pigs is a bad idea if you don't know.
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  Speaker 7: Well, other than the disease issues I've talked about and
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  Speaker 7: all of the P and E species, agriculture, uh, you know,
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  Speaker 7: destruction in the woods, competing with deer in turkeys, there
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  Speaker 7: are non native invasive species, so it's just like any
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  Speaker 7: other non native invasive species. They don't belong here, they
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  Speaker 7: didn't involve on the landscape, and they compete with all
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  Speaker 7: of our native animals and give our agricultural community a
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  Speaker 7: pretty big headache.
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  Speaker 1: I love Parker's job. Parker, you love your job, Love
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  Speaker 1: my job? How would you I think there's there's got
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  Speaker 1: to be some kids out there listening, some young people,
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  Speaker 1: maybe some old people that want to change their career.
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  Speaker 1: If someone wanted to get into doing like what you
• 58:25
  Speaker 1: get to do on a daily basis, was just every
• 58:26
  Speaker 1: time we talk to you, I'm like, man, that sounds
• 58:28
  Speaker 1: like fun. What Parker's doing, Like what do they need
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  Speaker 1: to do in school? And then what do they need
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  Speaker 1: to do after school sort of to get the experience
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  Speaker 1: to get in that line of work.
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  Speaker 5: And thank you for asking that question.
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  Speaker 7: We're kind of a smaller agency in wildlife services, so
• 58:45
  Speaker 7: we do have, believe it or not, trouble getting applicants sometimes.
• 58:48
  Speaker 5: So we have different levels of.
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  Speaker 7: So technicians, you know, they're they can come to work
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  Speaker 7: with wildlife Services with no college degree. They need some
• 58:58
  Speaker 7: experience in the outdoor trapping, you know, animal damage kind
• 59:04
  Speaker 7: of stuff, any of those types of things. They can
• 59:07
  Speaker 7: come to work in those jobs. Those employees are the
• 59:10
  Speaker 7: backbone of wildlife services. They do all the work and
• 59:13
  Speaker 7: we get all the credit. Just like this trap behind
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  Speaker 7: me in these feros wine that were trapped, I didn't
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  Speaker 7: do it. I was too busy doing spreadsheets. One of
• 59:23
  Speaker 7: my good technicians did it. And so those people are
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  Speaker 7: out there and it's a great job. A lot of
• 59:29
  Speaker 7: our jobs are posted on USA Jobs. That's the government website.
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  Speaker 7: You can also look up your Each wildlife services state
• 59:36
  Speaker 7: has a web page. You can go and call the
• 59:38
  Speaker 7: state director or call the district supervisor. Ask around in
• 59:41
  Speaker 7: the state. They know as you move up you do
• 59:44
  Speaker 7: need a college degree, like a four year degree in
• 59:47
  Speaker 7: some sort of natural resources, biology, wildlife, all those sorts
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  Speaker 7: of things, and that gets you up to that biologist level.
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  Speaker 7: And then after you get to that you can work
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  Speaker 7: work your way up. But the crux and the heart
• 1:00:00
  Speaker 7: and soul is is our technicians. You know, are are
• 1:00:05
  Speaker 7: people who are in the woods making a difference.
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  Speaker 1: Yeah, were those pigs pretty easy to trap or were
• 1:00:10
  Speaker 1: these some of those difficult pigs that you've talked about
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  Speaker 1: in the past with us.
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  Speaker 5: No, these were these ones are pretty easy.
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  Speaker 7: These these haven't been messed with a whole lot, so
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  Speaker 7: they weren't too difficult.
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  Speaker 5: And some of them get super hard.
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  Speaker 7: And you know, we're talking about a little earlier protecting
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  Speaker 7: UH sea turtle nests and that's a big thing that
• 1:00:29
  Speaker 7: that we do. And some of those guys get squirrely
• 1:00:31
  Speaker 7: because we chase them, We chase them pretty hard. They'll
• 1:00:34
  Speaker 7: get out, you know, Florida being what a deal. We
• 1:00:36
  Speaker 7: have so much coastline and so many nesting sea turtles
• 1:00:40
  Speaker 7: and ferrel swine are and high populations here, So those
• 1:00:43
  Speaker 7: pigs will get out on the beach and just dig
• 1:00:45
  Speaker 7: up turtle nests after turtle nests, after turtle nests, and
• 1:00:47
  Speaker 7: some of those can get can get kind of squirrely
• 1:00:50
  Speaker 7: to get to.
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  Speaker 1: If I had known as a younger person that wildlife
• 1:00:55
  Speaker 1: tech also included trapping and possibly hunting these animals, I
• 1:01:00
  Speaker 1: could be on a completely different career path.
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  Speaker 3: Not too late, honest, all.
• 1:01:05
  Speaker 1: Right, thanks thanks for that, Parker. I hope that you
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  Speaker 1: actually get some people that call you up interested and
• 1:01:10
  Speaker 1: possibly working UH for that agency. Now, before I invited
• 1:01:15
  Speaker 1: Parker to come on this show. He had text me
• 1:01:18
  Speaker 1: and said, hey, man, what you guys should do one
• 1:01:20
  Speaker 1: time on one of your podcast thingies. That's the term
• 1:01:23
  Speaker 1: you use, is that you guys should name your top
• 1:01:27
  Speaker 1: three favorite sounds from the woods. And he had already
• 1:01:31
  Speaker 1: at that time. At that moment, he sent me the
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  Speaker 1: list his top three favorite ones, along with the video
• 1:01:38
  Speaker 1: where you could hear one of the sounds that he said, Now, Parker,
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  Speaker 1: do you want to tell me what your do you
• 1:01:46
  Speaker 1: remember what your three are that you that you sent
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  Speaker 1: to me in text?
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  Speaker 5: I do remember. I do remember.
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  Speaker 7: Well, I think I remember my three because they don't
• 1:01:54
  Speaker 7: really change. But before we get to the three, I
• 1:01:58
  Speaker 7: think it's super important to point out please that we
• 1:02:02
  Speaker 7: do in building up in the outdoors. We go through
• 1:02:07
  Speaker 7: a lot of preparation, a lot of things and getting
• 1:02:10
  Speaker 7: already in the excitement and then all of a sudden
• 1:02:12
  Speaker 7: you're there. But when you hear a sound, you know
• 1:02:16
  Speaker 7: it's all come to fruition, something's about to happen. And
• 1:02:19
  Speaker 7: so I started thinking about that, and I was like, man,
• 1:02:22
  Speaker 7: sound is such an important thing, you know, when you're
• 1:02:25
  Speaker 7: when you're outside, you know, recreating, hunting, fishing, doing all
• 1:02:29
  Speaker 7: those sorts of things.
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  Speaker 5: So I do know my three.
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  Speaker 1: All right, Well, I'm gonna let you start then, and
• 1:02:34
  Speaker 1: I want you to start with the the number number three,
• 1:02:39
  Speaker 1: and then go to two and then go to the
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  Speaker 1: top one.
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  Speaker 7: Okay, number three for me is probably a tree dog.
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  Speaker 7: And I love the sound of a tree dog. You know,
• 1:02:53
  Speaker 7: I have Ruby, and you have your your good blue dog, who,
• 1:02:56
  Speaker 7: by the way, has a beautiful voice and it echoes
• 1:02:59
  Speaker 7: out through them mouth man.
• 1:03:01
  Speaker 5: I can't get enough of it. I show it to somebody, like,
• 1:03:03
  Speaker 5: listen to this doll. I love it. And you know
• 1:03:09
  Speaker 5: you're you're running the track, run the track, run track,
• 1:03:12
  Speaker 5: and then that changes that chop.
• 1:03:15
  Speaker 7: Man.
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  Speaker 5: You know something's about to happen. So I really love
• 1:03:18
  Speaker 5: that part.
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  Speaker 2: Oh yeah, what.
• 1:03:32
  Speaker 1: Beautiful Phil? Do you also have Parker's Ruby? All right, Parker,
• 1:03:45
  Speaker 1: what's your number two favorite sound in the woods or
• 1:03:48
  Speaker 1: the outdoors?
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  Speaker 7: My number two sound is a drag singing just when
• 1:03:53
  Speaker 7: you hook up to the fish in that draft. You
• 1:03:58
  Speaker 7: know better that you know it's it's just something that
• 1:04:02
  Speaker 7: that gets your heart going. You know something good is
• 1:04:04
  Speaker 7: about to happen.
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  Speaker 5: So that's number two.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, we're gonna play it right now, that's what I'm yeah. Last, Paul,
• 1:04:23
  Speaker 1: we got to fish similar water to what Parker is
• 1:04:26
  Speaker 1: fishing there on the coast at Florida. We were on
• 1:04:28
  Speaker 1: the coast of Louisiana and I'm assuming that was a
• 1:04:31
  Speaker 1: redfish in that video, and uh, we got to experience
• 1:04:35
  Speaker 1: a lot of that. And you can't help but giggle,
• 1:04:39
  Speaker 1: like when that is happening and that reel is going
• 1:04:42
  Speaker 1: backwards and making that sound singing, you just can't help
• 1:04:45
  Speaker 1: but giggle. I mean, it is just one of the best,
• 1:04:48
  Speaker 1: all right, number one sound in the Turkey Woods, Parker.
• 1:04:52
  Speaker 1: Then the best sound now, oh sorry, in the woods
• 1:04:55
  Speaker 1: I meant to say in the.
• 1:04:58
  Speaker 5: Woods is when you you are hunting a turkey and
• 1:05:02
  Speaker 5: you've been working in for some time and all's quiet,
• 1:05:05
  Speaker 5: and you in the game.
• 1:05:07
  Speaker 7: You know he's coming, but you don't know where he's
• 1:05:09
  Speaker 7: gobbled last about twenty minutes ago, and you're just frozen,
• 1:05:13
  Speaker 7: and all of a sudden, you hear that drum and
• 1:05:17
  Speaker 7: you on top of you, buddy, and I'm telling you,
• 1:05:22
  Speaker 7: it gets your heart pumping so fast you freeze rock
• 1:05:25
  Speaker 7: solid and you hear it again.
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  Speaker 5: That's the best sound in the woods, if you ask
• 1:05:33
  Speaker 5: me beautiful.
• 1:05:34
  Speaker 1: Now, for those of you, a turkey drumming the spit
• 1:05:39
  Speaker 1: you can kind of catch on camera. But that sound
• 1:05:42
  Speaker 1: of the drum itself, it's one of those sounds that is,
• 1:05:45
  Speaker 1: for whatever reason, a microphone has a hard time picking
• 1:05:48
  Speaker 1: up that hum.
• 1:05:49
  Speaker 3: It's so low frequency, right, And like new Turkey Hunters,
• 1:05:53
  Speaker 3: I think here that like it doesn't even register with that.
• 1:05:58
  Speaker 3: Like I've tried to point it out to people in there,
• 1:05:59
  Speaker 3: like what are you I don't hear anything?
• 1:06:02
  Speaker 1: You know, you guys want to go next? Or do
• 1:06:05
  Speaker 1: you want me to go?
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  Speaker 9: Go?
• 1:06:07
  Speaker 1: All right, I'm gonna I'm gonna speed mine up a
• 1:06:09
  Speaker 1: little bit. We already heard my number third. Number three
• 1:06:13
  Speaker 1: was Mingus barking Treed. We already heard Mingus number two.
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  Speaker 1: This is also a video I sent to Parker. I
• 1:06:21
  Speaker 1: was really thinking about, like what makes me happy when
• 1:06:23
  Speaker 1: I hear sound? And I was thinking, man, when I
• 1:06:26
  Speaker 1: drop in some fish or some turkey nuggets into some
• 1:06:30
  Speaker 1: oil and that and that oil just is crackling away.
• 1:06:36
  Speaker 1: Oh yeah, ah, that is a good sound. And like
• 1:06:40
  Speaker 1: Parker said, you know something's good. It's about to happen.
• 1:06:43
  Speaker 1: You're gonna about to put that stuff in your mouth that.
• 1:06:45
  Speaker 3: Changes a little too, like when you first throw it
• 1:06:48
  Speaker 3: in versus when it's ready.
• 1:06:49
  Speaker 1: Yeah, that's good. That's a good point. That's a good point,
• 1:06:52
  Speaker 1: all right, number one. And I will say, man, there's
• 1:06:55
  Speaker 1: a lot of good sounds out there, but this is
• 1:06:59
  Speaker 1: what came to mind in the last twenty four hours
• 1:07:01
  Speaker 1: I was putting some effort into making this come together.
• 1:07:05
  Speaker 1: Is a deer walking through the woods, crunching leaves underfoot,
• 1:07:10
  Speaker 1: specifically a heavy deer in oak leaves. I don't were
• 1:07:17
  Speaker 1: you able to pull anything like that up, Phil.
• 1:07:19
  Speaker 4: No, because this is literally the first time I'm hearing
• 1:07:21
  Speaker 4: out this.
• 1:07:22
  Speaker 1: Okay, but you all, if you're a deer hunter out there, Randall, Brody,
• 1:07:28
  Speaker 1: you guys have both been there Pennsylvania, Ohio. It's like
• 1:07:32
  Speaker 1: another sound that you don't really see it before it happens.
• 1:07:37
  Speaker 1: It's like a lot of times for me when I'm
• 1:07:38
  Speaker 1: in a tree stand, that's what tips me off to
• 1:07:41
  Speaker 1: the presence. And somehow, I don't know how, but I
• 1:07:44
  Speaker 1: feel like I'm getting to the point where I can
• 1:07:46
  Speaker 1: tell the difference between one hundred and twenty pound doer
• 1:07:50
  Speaker 1: and one hundred and seventy five to two hundred plus
• 1:07:54
  Speaker 1: pound buck, like I couldn't do that.
• 1:07:56
  Speaker 2: It's been so long since I sat in a tree
• 1:07:58
  Speaker 2: stand that as you're describing this, all I can think
• 1:08:00
  Speaker 2: about is how similar squirrels sound to deer in my
• 1:08:04
  Speaker 2: in my memory.
• 1:08:05
  Speaker 1: Yes, And the moment you think you got that figured out,
• 1:08:08
  Speaker 1: you're like, it's a squirrel. You look over there and
• 1:08:11
  Speaker 1: there's the buck you've been waiting after.
• 1:08:12
  Speaker 2: Like, how does the squirrel make that much noise?
• 1:08:14
  Speaker 1: But man, when I hear that sound the same thing. Man,
• 1:08:18
  Speaker 1: it's just like you know it's about to go down.
• 1:08:21
  Speaker 1: You know, whether it's a dough or a buck, whatever,
• 1:08:24
  Speaker 1: you better like you need to get into predator mode
• 1:08:26
  Speaker 1: and get your bow in your hand, get your release
• 1:08:29
  Speaker 1: clipped on, and start focusing real fast because it's it's
• 1:08:33
  Speaker 1: about to go down, all right, Who's next?
• 1:08:39
  Speaker 3: It doesn't matter, Randall?
• 1:08:40
  Speaker 2: You sure I can go? I brought in a prop
• 1:08:44
  Speaker 2: for my first sound.
• 1:08:45
  Speaker 1: Oh, Randall's opening a breakdown rod case.
• 1:08:50
  Speaker 5: Brody, if you'll hold this there?
• 1:08:53
  Speaker 2: Sure?
• 1:08:54
  Speaker 8: Now?
• 1:08:54
  Speaker 3: Is this gonna hurt me?
• 1:08:55
  Speaker 2: No, ran I just need you to hold that nice.
• 1:08:57
  Speaker 3: Oh, I know where he is going with this.
• 1:09:00
  Speaker 1: Now we go, Randall's gotta we go.
• 1:09:02
  Speaker 2: Picture this. You're sitting by a riverbank at night, you
• 1:09:06
  Speaker 2: cast your bait out, settles on the bottom nicely.
• 1:09:09
  Speaker 3: A warm summer night with crickets.
• 1:09:11
  Speaker 2: A warm summer night. You click off your headlamp and
• 1:09:13
  Speaker 2: you crack open an ice cold beverage, and then all
• 1:09:17
  Speaker 2: of a sudden you hear put that by your mic,
• 1:09:20
  Speaker 2: and then you hear and that's how you know, old
• 1:09:29
  Speaker 2: mister Katatterfish has your bait. Nothing more exciting than hearing
• 1:09:34
  Speaker 2: that bell ring when you're when you're calfishing at night.
• 1:09:38
  Speaker 2: Number two, picture this. It's deer season. You're with your buddy.
• 1:09:47
  Speaker 2: He goes one way, you go the other. You're hiking
• 1:09:51
  Speaker 2: five minutes, ten minutes, whatever, and you guys are the
• 1:09:55
  Speaker 2: only guys out there. Then all of a sudden, your
• 1:10:01
  Speaker 2: buddy shoots.
• 1:10:02
  Speaker 3: M What about the the thwap is good too.
• 1:10:06
  Speaker 2: I was thinking specifically of when we're in Mexico and
• 1:10:09
  Speaker 2: we were listening on the radio and our buddy shot
• 1:10:12
  Speaker 2: a buck and he hit it good, but it went
• 1:10:15
  Speaker 2: off and we could hear him kind of scrambling like
• 1:10:18
  Speaker 2: I don't know if like where is he? Where is
• 1:10:19
  Speaker 2: he looking from looking for him? We're sitting there like
• 1:10:22
  Speaker 2: biting our lips and then all of a sudden you
• 1:10:24
  Speaker 2: hear boom, he found him. Just a gunshot where you
• 1:10:29
  Speaker 2: know exactly what happened. That's the best sound in the world. Actually,
• 1:10:34
  Speaker 2: that's number two.
• 1:10:35
  Speaker 1: That's number two. I'm tracking. You have two great sounds
• 1:10:38
  Speaker 1: so far.
• 1:10:39
  Speaker 2: Picture this. You're deer hunting in Idaho. It's four thirty.
• 1:10:45
  Speaker 2: You got a long hike ahead of you, driving down
• 1:10:48
  Speaker 2: a bumpy road. You're listening to maybe a podcast, maybe
• 1:10:51
  Speaker 2: the met Eater podcast. Maybe you're listening to some music
• 1:10:53
  Speaker 2: that'll pump you up, rock and roll, hip hop, whatever
• 1:10:57
  Speaker 2: your thing is. You get there, you put your head
• 1:11:00
  Speaker 2: lamp on, you shut the car off, get outside, and
• 1:11:05
  Speaker 2: you close the door. Perfect silence when all that noise
• 1:11:11
  Speaker 2: just stops. I feel like whenever I close my truck
• 1:11:13
  Speaker 2: door and it's there's nothing. It's like something just washes
• 1:11:17
  Speaker 2: over you.
• 1:11:18
  Speaker 1: M M. The sound of silence.
• 1:11:20
  Speaker 2: The sound of silence, your number one, of silence, that's
• 1:11:28
  Speaker 2: my number that's my top three.
• 1:11:29
  Speaker 1: Good job, random, top three. I enjoyed that, Rody.
• 1:11:34
  Speaker 3: My number three would be a grouse flushing right at
• 1:11:37
  Speaker 3: your feet. You got the noise phill. Yeah, that's a
• 1:11:44
  Speaker 3: very exciting sound. If you're a grouse center and it
• 1:11:49
  Speaker 3: can take you by let's take you by surprise a
• 1:11:51
  Speaker 3: lot of times too, and it means good things. So
• 1:11:55
  Speaker 3: that's a good one for me and my dog. My
• 1:11:58
  Speaker 3: Number two is uh a magpie called called the whisper song.
• 1:12:04
  Speaker 1: Got that, Phil.
• 1:12:11
  Speaker 3: It almost sounds like they're talking a little bit when
• 1:12:13
  Speaker 3: they're doing that, like human talking.
• 1:12:14
  Speaker 2: Sometimes I'm only familiar with the whisper song by the
• 1:12:18
  Speaker 2: Ying Yang twins.
• 1:12:19
  Speaker 3: Not familiar.
• 1:12:20
  Speaker 2: This is the whisper song.
• 1:12:22
  Speaker 3: This one's way better than that because careless whisper, because
• 1:12:26
  Speaker 3: this is often out west the sound of a successful
• 1:12:30
  Speaker 3: big game hunt, oftentimes very soon after you shoot and
• 1:12:37
  Speaker 3: walk up to you know, mule, deer, elk, what have you,
• 1:12:41
  Speaker 3: You're gonna hear that song pretty quickly and it and
• 1:12:44
  Speaker 3: it goes on the whole time while you're breaking that
• 1:12:47
  Speaker 3: animal down because they know a big meals.
• 1:12:50
  Speaker 1: Coming so good the horizon.
• 1:12:52
  Speaker 3: Yeah, So that that's a sound I love. My top
• 1:12:57
  Speaker 3: one similar to Randall's, a little more specific. It's it's
• 1:13:02
  Speaker 3: when you because I think this is a very rare
• 1:13:05
  Speaker 3: thing to hear, which is like you get to the
• 1:13:07
  Speaker 3: glass and knob, you sit down and it usually takes
• 1:13:11
  Speaker 3: a little while to sink in and you realize that
• 1:13:13
  Speaker 3: is completely quiet. There's no background noise, no cars, no
• 1:13:19
  Speaker 3: planes flying overhead, no dogs barking, no cows moving. It's
• 1:13:24
  Speaker 3: it's very rare to hear. It may be a little
• 1:13:27
  Speaker 3: more common out here in the wide open spaces of Montana,
• 1:13:31
  Speaker 3: and it's tough to find, probably in Wisconsin. But like,
• 1:13:36
  Speaker 3: it's almost jarring when it sinks in. Oh yeah, when
• 1:13:40
  Speaker 3: you're you're like, oh my god, there's like no background.
• 1:13:43
  Speaker 1: Like, no wind, noise.
• 1:13:44
  Speaker 2: Even they're no longer panting from the hikes.
• 1:13:46
  Speaker 3: Yeah, you get that that rare, super still day. It's
• 1:13:52
  Speaker 3: it's it's the best man.
• 1:13:54
  Speaker 1: You've always got me fired up. I was fired up
• 1:13:56
  Speaker 1: an hour and ten minutes ago, fifteen minutes ago, you guys.
• 1:14:00
  Speaker 1: Now with the sounds of nature the top ones, I
• 1:14:04
  Speaker 1: might just take the rest of the day off and
• 1:14:05
  Speaker 1: go fish and so I can hear real sing. Or
• 1:14:07
  Speaker 1: go fry some fish, or go find a spot in
• 1:14:09
  Speaker 1: the woods that is silent.
• 1:14:11
  Speaker 2: I want to go somewhere and just see if I
• 1:14:13
  Speaker 2: get surprised by a gunshot.
• 1:14:16
  Speaker 4: Everyone.
• 1:14:17
  Speaker 1: Hey Parker, thank you for joining us, Thank you for
• 1:14:20
  Speaker 1: bringing your work to light. Here and to share. For
• 1:14:26
  Speaker 1: sharing and for coming with the idea of the top
• 1:14:29
  Speaker 1: three favorite sounds. I'm sure we're gonna use that one again.
• 1:14:32
  Speaker 2: It was an inspired suggestion.
• 1:14:34
  Speaker 1: Thank you very much, so for all of you at home,
• 1:14:38
  Speaker 1: thanks for watching and listening. We still got to do
• 1:14:42
  Speaker 1: more feedback. I figured Phil was just gonna cut me off.
• 1:14:45
  Speaker 1: You are free to go, man. Thanks.
• 1:14:47
  Speaker 2: You can walk away from that dead hawk now, see
• 1:14:53
  Speaker 2: he's a good sport.
• 1:14:54
  Speaker 4: Hey, well, how about this be honest. I'm gonna call
• 1:14:56
  Speaker 4: it quick audible instead of doing questions, how don't we
• 1:14:58
  Speaker 4: go over? The chat had a lot of great suggestions
• 1:15:01
  Speaker 4: for sounds from the outdoors. Oh yeah, I haven't really
• 1:15:03
  Speaker 4: I haven't been reading all of them. But we can
• 1:15:05
  Speaker 4: just kind of, you know, play it by ear Keith says,
• 1:15:08
  Speaker 4: drumming of a rough grouse, the song of a red
• 1:15:11
  Speaker 4: winged blackbird, and the thwack of an arrow connecting like
• 1:15:17
  Speaker 4: Texas Smoking says, turkeys wouldn't even make his list, which
• 1:15:20
  Speaker 4: seems controversial.
• 1:15:21
  Speaker 2: It seems like a hot take, Texas Smoking, I like it.
• 1:15:24
  Speaker 4: Wood duck as the sun comes up. It's pretty nice.
• 1:15:29
  Speaker 4: The first western meadow lark of spring.
• 1:15:32
  Speaker 3: M that's a good.
• 1:15:33
  Speaker 2: I like sandhill cranes. Yeah, so fun.
• 1:15:38
  Speaker 4: Spencer Newhart says, a big buck walking through the woods
• 1:15:40
  Speaker 4: sounds the same as a squirrel.
• 1:15:41
  Speaker 1: That's true, Spencer, you don't know he hunted in uh
• 1:15:47
  Speaker 1: North Dakota. They don't have leaves at the at the
• 1:15:49
  Speaker 1: deer crunch.
• 1:15:50
  Speaker 4: On, Andrew says, an era slicing through the air, turkey
• 1:15:56
  Speaker 4: gobbling in the distance, and a bullock screaming at you
• 1:15:58
  Speaker 4: from thirty yards away. You guys didn't hear this, Randam,
• 1:16:03
  Speaker 4: when you were talking about your gun shot. I played
• 1:16:05
  Speaker 4: a gunshot, but I didn't have I didn't have the
• 1:16:08
  Speaker 4: audio in the room up so but the chat heard
• 1:16:10
  Speaker 4: it and apparently it was timed perfectly.
• 1:16:12
  Speaker 1: So did a job once again?
• 1:16:14
  Speaker 2: Did it go with my boat?
• 1:16:15
  Speaker 1: Did it did go?
• 1:16:16
  Speaker 9: It was?
• 1:16:17
  Speaker 2: It was this I look forward to watch. Oh, I
• 1:16:18
  Speaker 2: look forward to watching this on YouTube.
• 1:16:20
  Speaker 4: Okay, that'll be fun.
• 1:16:22
  Speaker 1: Randall, I liked it. It was that your friend shoots.
• 1:16:25
  Speaker 1: Spenser is arguing with you, says that they do have trees,
• 1:16:28
  Speaker 1: so not with leaves.
• 1:16:29
  Speaker 2: When you when you when someone when you were like
• 1:16:31
  Speaker 2: with someone and they're like, I'm gonna go after that
• 1:16:33
  Speaker 2: deer and you're just sitting there and like you lose
• 1:16:35
  Speaker 2: sight of your body and you lose sight of the
• 1:16:37
  Speaker 2: deer and you're just waiting and then all of a
• 1:16:38
  Speaker 2: sudden boom, it's just like what happened? You want to know?
• 1:16:45
  Speaker 2: You do get There's nothing.
• 1:16:46
  Speaker 4: Better, Jude says, one million duck calls all at once
• 1:16:50
  Speaker 4: on public lands.
• 1:16:52
  Speaker 1: No, that's not my not my job.
• 1:16:54
  Speaker 4: And yeah, a lot of we got a lot of
• 1:16:57
  Speaker 4: upland birds flushing. So yeah, thanks for thanks for sharing
• 1:17:00
  Speaker 4: your thoughts chat appreciate it. Yanni, you are completely off
• 1:17:03
  Speaker 4: camera right now.
• 1:17:04
  Speaker 1: Oh sorry, I'm just kicking back reading along with you.
• 1:17:09
  Speaker 3: We could do least favorite sounds sometimes too.
• 1:17:13
  Speaker 1: Dwell on the negative.
• 1:17:14
  Speaker 3: Yeah, but you know it's part of life, things going
• 1:17:17
  Speaker 3: wrong out.
• 1:17:17
  Speaker 1: There, all right, So no questions today, Phil, You know
• 1:17:22
  Speaker 1: we're at a good time.
• 1:17:22
  Speaker 4: You guys. You guys don't seem very receptive to question.
• 1:17:25
  Speaker 2: No, I'd love to hit a couple of questions. We love,
• 1:17:27
  Speaker 2: we got plenty of.
• 1:17:28
  Speaker 1: The only reason that I would get finished right now
• 1:17:31
  Speaker 1: is for your time, Phil. I want to be respectful
• 1:17:34
  Speaker 1: of you.
• 1:17:34
  Speaker 4: That doesn't mean a lot. I didn't have breakfast and
• 1:17:36
  Speaker 4: it's lunchtime and I'm getting them get a little hungry. Uh,
• 1:17:40
  Speaker 4: let's see. Spencer is asking, he says, ask the guys
• 1:17:42
  Speaker 4: how the sig Range Day competition went? In parentheses? Who won?
• 1:17:47
  Speaker 4: Is he talking to you?
• 1:17:50
  Speaker 1: I don't even know what range Day competition he's talking about.
• 1:17:53
  Speaker 3: Oh, when we were out at the but it.
• 1:17:56
  Speaker 4: Was the whole crew.
• 1:17:58
  Speaker 2: Who did with the whole crew except for me and
• 1:18:00
  Speaker 2: Steve recording the audiobook?
• 1:18:02
  Speaker 1: Are you there, Brody?
• 1:18:03
  Speaker 3: Yeah?
• 1:18:04
  Speaker 1: Was I there?
• 1:18:05
  Speaker 3: Yep, we were shooting together.
• 1:18:08
  Speaker 1: Who won? Spencer won? Good job?
• 1:18:12
  Speaker 2: Question?
• 1:18:13
  Speaker 1: What does just have to do?
• 1:18:14
  Speaker 4: He just wanted to talk smack. He's just sad he's
• 1:18:17
  Speaker 4: not here right now. He's well, that's the thing is
• 1:18:20
  Speaker 4: like this happens with Randall and Randall's in the chat.
• 1:18:21
  Speaker 4: Sometimes they're the ones fielding questions, so people just ask
• 1:18:25
  Speaker 4: them questions for.
• 1:18:25
  Speaker 1: The whole show. When are we doing another live podcast tour,
• 1:18:31
  Speaker 1: possibly at the end of this year.
• 1:18:34
  Speaker 4: Nate's question, which let's see at the bottom at the bottom,
• 1:18:39
  Speaker 4: Oh yeah, yeah, Nate asks what it says Phil? What
• 1:18:41
  Speaker 4: was Randall's score on trivia if he played yesterday's game?
• 1:18:44
  Speaker 2: Yet he is legit I got a perfect game driving
• 1:18:48
  Speaker 2: into the Sorry, I mean I felt like questions one
• 1:18:53
  Speaker 2: through five were just gimmes for me.
• 1:18:56
  Speaker 1: Chronograph I can't believe bro I both had the same wrong.
• 1:19:02
  Speaker 2: Answer Great basin National Park.
• 1:19:05
  Speaker 4: Oh people. People in the YouTube comments Yanni were angry
• 1:19:09
  Speaker 4: about the about Nate's tree stand answer. They said that
• 1:19:13
  Speaker 4: that should have been accepted.
• 1:19:14
  Speaker 3: No, it shouldn't have.
• 1:19:16
  Speaker 1: But it wasn't me to make the final calls that
• 1:19:19
  Speaker 1: Sure was hosting. So all right, I agree with him,
• 1:19:22
  Speaker 1: it wasn't the right answer. Let's go.
• 1:19:26
  Speaker 4: Let's call the show there, guys.
• 1:19:28
  Speaker 2: You don't want to end on a good one, no, Phil.
• 1:19:31
  Speaker 1: Saying there's no good questions left. Randall, Well, here here's
• 1:19:34
  Speaker 1: the thing.
• 1:19:34
  Speaker 4: I I I love everyone who watches this show every week.
• 1:19:37
  Speaker 4: If you if you're asking questions in the chat, you're
• 1:19:39
  Speaker 4: you're you're doing a great job. But a lot of
• 1:19:41
  Speaker 4: the questions are sort of like, hey, can I have
• 1:19:43
  Speaker 4: some tips about deer hunting? And we need to get
• 1:19:45
  Speaker 4: more specific with the questions.
• 1:19:47
  Speaker 1: You know that's at there just a weird question.
• 1:19:51
  Speaker 3: We get a weird one, weird question Randall does doesn't
• 1:19:55
  Speaker 3: want to go.
• 1:19:55
  Speaker 4: I normally don't flag this super weird question. Okay. Freddie
• 1:19:59
  Speaker 4: Rick said he was late to the show because he
• 1:20:00
  Speaker 4: was butchering an antelope, and then he followed up with
• 1:20:02
  Speaker 4: what is a good use for the outside round besides
• 1:20:05
  Speaker 4: jerky or grind?
• 1:20:06
  Speaker 1: Outside round is a different term than what I know.
• 1:20:10
  Speaker 1: Is is he talking about top round?
• 1:20:12
  Speaker 3: I don't know if he's talking top or bottom.
• 1:20:14
  Speaker 1: It's gotta be one of those two. Oftentimes. I mean
• 1:20:18
  Speaker 1: I just roast it.
• 1:20:21
  Speaker 3: They both of the rounds make good.
• 1:20:24
  Speaker 5: Yeah, a lot of round.
• 1:20:25
  Speaker 1: Sticks totally if it's and what I'll do sometimes if
• 1:20:28
  Speaker 1: I cut one and it's a little bit chewy, the
• 1:20:31
  Speaker 1: next time I make that same cut, I just give
• 1:20:33
  Speaker 1: it a little pounding, sure, and it's fine.
• 1:20:35
  Speaker 3: And listen, man, I feel like people don't use enough
• 1:20:39
  Speaker 3: good cuts off the hind court. If you want good burger,
• 1:20:42
  Speaker 3: use good cuts. If all you use is shank and
• 1:20:45
  Speaker 3: shoulder for burger, it's not gonna be great burger.
• 1:20:48
  Speaker 1: Preach that ship, Brody. Do any of you eat your
• 1:20:53
  Speaker 1: wild game brains?
• 1:20:55
  Speaker 9: No?
• 1:20:55
  Speaker 4: That's from Peter.
• 1:21:00
  Speaker 1: But they want to know why not. Peter don't want
• 1:21:02
  Speaker 1: to know why not?
• 1:21:06
  Speaker 3: A yeah, that's my answer too.
• 1:21:11
  Speaker 1: I guess like no one's ever come to me and
• 1:21:13
  Speaker 1: been like, hey, this is a good idea, it's delicious.
• 1:21:17
  Speaker 1: You should prepare it this way, like I just you know,
• 1:21:20
  Speaker 1: you hear of some tribes also eating some brains every
• 1:21:23
  Speaker 1: now and then.
• 1:21:24
  Speaker 3: There's also like and I don't want to be like
• 1:21:28
  Speaker 3: scaring like people for no reason. There's also like disease
• 1:21:31
  Speaker 3: concerns with eating brain some brains of some animals like
• 1:21:35
  Speaker 3: c w D collects in the nervous system and you
• 1:21:38
  Speaker 3: know brain. Remember that, wasn't there some rumor flying around
• 1:21:43
  Speaker 3: about eating squirrel brains one time? That's right? So yeah,
• 1:21:47
  Speaker 3: I just don't do it.
• 1:21:50
  Speaker 4: See here's an example of one I'm not sure, Like Brodie,
• 1:21:52
  Speaker 4: I want your take, since you're you're you're giving. You
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  Speaker 4: pulled me back in Gabriel ass put in for my
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  Speaker 4: first hunt in southern Indiana and drew a bow tag
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  Speaker 4: from middle of October. It's a unit that he can't
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  Speaker 4: get into beforehand. A scout, he has two days to hunt.
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  Speaker 4: Any advice or points.
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  Speaker 3: I think, y'all, this is not a question for me
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  Speaker 3: because it's like a white tailed bow archery hunting question.
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  Speaker 3: So I'll pass it off the honest.
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  Speaker 1: And you know I can't get into beforehand, so there's
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  Speaker 1: no scouting and he has starting roll in.
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  Speaker 9: Yeah.
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  Speaker 1: Year, you know a lot of people say that October
• 1:22:31
  Speaker 1: is the time for afternoon hunts. Going on that notion,
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  Speaker 1: and whether that was the case or not, I would
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  Speaker 1: spend at least the first half of the first day,
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  Speaker 1: maybe more, maybe three quarters of that day just pounding
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  Speaker 1: the ground and looking for sign and learning those woods
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  Speaker 1: and trying to figure it out. I'm guessing it's a
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  Speaker 1: sounds like it's a good tag to have if it's
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  Speaker 1: so limited, so maybe there's not a lot of pressure.
• 1:23:00
  Speaker 1: I think that you pounding around and trying to figure
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  Speaker 1: it out for three quarters of a day, that just
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  Speaker 1: then leaves you like an evening hunt and then possibly
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  Speaker 1: you know, a morning and evening the next day. That
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  Speaker 1: is time better spent than just going in there off
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  Speaker 1: of a and like a little bit of not that
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  Speaker 1: you should definitely do a whole bunch of onyx gals
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  Speaker 1: ahead of time, but like you can't rely and don't
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  Speaker 1: be like that's gonna be the perfect saddle. You just
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  Speaker 1: don't know. You got to go there and look, you
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  Speaker 1: should find out maybe call down there and see what
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  Speaker 1: the acorn crop is like this year. Like in Wisconsin,
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  Speaker 1: this year we have a booner crop, but find out
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  Speaker 1: what's going on down there for feed ahead of time. That'll,
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  Speaker 1: you know, educate on where you need to go, what
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  Speaker 1: you need to do. But I think my number one
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  Speaker 1: thing would do to do was just be to take
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  Speaker 1: the time on the ground the first day and pound
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  Speaker 1: the ground. Find the sign and you don't have to
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  Speaker 1: find rubs and scrapes and all that. Find like some
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  Speaker 1: good looking deer trails that look recently used, fine fresh scat.
• 1:24:03
  Speaker 1: I think that you're gonna be well on your way.
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  Speaker 3: One thing I would add, even though this isn't mine
• 1:24:09
  Speaker 3: type of hunt, but if if this guy is talking
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  Speaker 3: public land, I'd be looking on on X for something
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  Speaker 3: that presents difficult access for a lot of other hunters.
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  Speaker 2: Sure got a hike over ridge.
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  Speaker 1: But the difficult access might have already been overcome or
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  Speaker 1: been sort of presented through this draw of at tag
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  Speaker 1: or whatever.
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  Speaker 3: Maybe it's Indiana, so there seems like there's gonna be hunters,
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  Speaker 3: you know, true, true, good luck.
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  Speaker 1: Gabriel's start last one, last one here that this one's
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  Speaker 1: for randall if they could, oh h.
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  Speaker 3: I oh, I cannot support that. As a Penn State.
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  Speaker 1: Fan, thank you all for listening and watching it home.
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  Speaker 1: Hope you enjoyed this episode of Meat Eater Radio Live.
• 1:25:00
  Speaker 1: Who's hosting next week? Is it one of you?
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  Speaker 2: I'm hosting Randall cal and Seth.
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  Speaker 1: Hey, hey, that sounds like a banger of an episode.
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  Speaker 1: It's gonna be tune in. They're gonna choose the winner
• 1:25:12
  Speaker 1: of the Moultrie uh Big Big Bowl trail camera will be.
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  Speaker 4: Choosing the winner. Okay, but you guys, you have to
• 1:25:21
  Speaker 4: be watching live to vote.
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  Speaker 1: Okay, Randall's gonna present. We're gonna choose the top four.
• 1:25:26
  Speaker 1: Randall's gonna present the top four. And to leave you
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  Speaker 1: one more time, let's listen to Randalls one of his
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  Speaker 1: favorite sounds. Until next time,