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Masculinity, Money, and Messiness: RHOBH Reunion Part One with Alexis Bellino · Reality with The King

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Speaker 1: Reality with the King is hosted by me, Carlos King.
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Speaker 1: I'm an executive producer who have produced some of your
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Speaker 1: favorite shows from the Real Housewives in Atlanta, New Jersey
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Speaker 1: and my own creation, The Love and Marriage Franchise and
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Speaker 1: Bell Collective. Every episode, we recap reality television from the
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Speaker 1: Real Housewives Franchise to The Bachelor or Selling Sunset, in
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Speaker 1: addition to celebrity guests, whether in the unscripted space or
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Speaker 1: scripted as well. Hey, rain drops. On today's episode Reality
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Speaker 1: with the King, Alexis Jansen and I are back to
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Speaker 1: talk about part one of the Real Housewives of Beverly
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Speaker 1: Hills reunion. Alexis is recovering, so if she sounds a
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Speaker 1: little muffled.
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Speaker 2: Well, well we'll just say I have had an elective
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Speaker 2: procedure done and everyone's gonna have to wait and just
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Speaker 2: see next week or the week after just what I
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Speaker 2: will unveil on Carlos King.
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Speaker 1: I can't wait to see the end result of whatever
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Speaker 1: it is that you're doing, because I know one thing, Honey,
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Speaker 1: you will look just as gorgeous as the ladies of
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Speaker 1: Beverly Hills did it as reunion.
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Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, right stunning. I wanted to talk about
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Speaker 2: their fits. I didn't know if you were going to
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Speaker 2: go there, but okay, let's go there. Who was your favorite?
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Speaker 1: Oh good, ques, you know what? Okay, because maybe unpopular opinion.
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Speaker 1: I don't know. I haven't seen what people have been saying.
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Speaker 1: I like rachel Zoe's.
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Speaker 2: The most well shocker.
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Speaker 1: Well, I know, right, no, because she's rachel' zae. Although
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Speaker 1: it was it was very covered up from like neck
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Speaker 1: to fucking toes. I just thought it looked really regal
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Speaker 1: and yeah, and.
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Speaker 2: Well it was. It was vintage jade that Mendel. Did
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Speaker 2: you say that? No, it was vintage Jamie Mendel, So
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Speaker 2: that's really rad. But I loved hers. I loved well.
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Speaker 2: I loved the way Kyle looked because I just thought
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Speaker 2: it's such a different, unique look for her. But freakin
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Speaker 2: Jennifer Tilley when she came out on one of the
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Speaker 2: clubs from from when it's half her faces on the gown,
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Speaker 2: I mean, what, oh my gosh.
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Speaker 1: I love it, love it, love it. I can't wait
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Speaker 1: to see her in next week's episode. But I love
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Speaker 1: that too. With you, I thought Kyle looked very I
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Speaker 1: didn't know the back was out, so I liked that
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Speaker 1: the back was out. Yeah, she had a perfect hair
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Speaker 1: make up for it. Durie looked pretty and soft. I
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Speaker 1: like bows.
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Speaker 2: I love bows over the top. She was like she
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Speaker 2: was like an ornament. Not I mean, she was just
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Speaker 2: over the top. But I just I loved all their outfits.
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Speaker 2: We keep going, you go down the line, so then
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Speaker 2: and then Erica Jane looked great, stunning, yep.
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Speaker 1: Always and some looked nice.
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Speaker 2: I loved setting stressed for her. I thought that was so.
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Speaker 2: That's such a good look for her. Yeah, love and Amanda's.
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Speaker 2: I thought Amanda's was so. I loved something about that.
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Speaker 2: I don't know if it was the light paint that
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Speaker 2: was on it or if the fact that it slit
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Speaker 2: went all the way up to her booty. I don't know.
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Speaker 2: I liked that one too.
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Speaker 1: No, I thought that was good too. Thought it was
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Speaker 1: really good. But nah, I thought all the girls looked gray.
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Speaker 1: And my favorite part of the reunion is how it
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Speaker 1: began when the re arrives on stage and she has
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Speaker 1: enter on the side of where Kyle and Eric car
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Speaker 1: is sitting at and she walks by them and doesn't speak.
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Speaker 2: Well when she walks in. Though, first of all, It's hilarious.
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Speaker 2: She has someone walking in with her because her heels
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Speaker 2: were too high and her dress had guess had was
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Speaker 2: it a train? Did have a train? I mean, why
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Speaker 2: did she have someone walking with her? But anyway, she
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Speaker 2: did come in and go hi girls, like as soon
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Speaker 2: as she got on set.
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Speaker 1: So I think that was.
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Speaker 2: Her way of getting around saying hi to everyone individually,
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Speaker 2: you know, like so she could just walk past Kyle
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Speaker 2: and Erica.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, it was. It was so awkward. And what made
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Speaker 1: things even more awkward is when Andy asked at the
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Speaker 1: top of the reunion if they see any reconciliation, and
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Speaker 1: you know, Dere's like, she's always hopeful, and Kyle kind
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Speaker 1: of said the same thing, and Erica says she has
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Speaker 1: no hope.
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Speaker 2: I know the others are trying to be a little
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Speaker 2: bit like, okay, maybe you should leave a little room open,
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Speaker 2: and Erica like slammed that door.
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Speaker 1: Erica's like, I'm done with this. I think she knows
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Speaker 1: that Derey is going to gaslight her way out of
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Speaker 1: her answers and not hold herself accountable. That's what I
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Speaker 1: got from it. But yeah, I don't think that. I
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Speaker 1: think Erica's just like it is what it is is
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Speaker 1: going to be Derie and there's nobody that can change her.
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Speaker 1: So to start it off that way, because you can
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Speaker 1: tell Andy's like, look, he wants this show to go
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Speaker 1: on with the same cast and maybe a newbie, but
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Speaker 1: he also knows that it has to make sense that
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Speaker 1: they're friends, Yeah, which is why he wanted to sort
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Speaker 1: of like address it at the top so that he
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Speaker 1: can't implant in their minds like get it together, girls.
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Speaker 1: But Eric is like, no, I'm not.
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Speaker 2: I don't believe so do you don't you think it's
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Speaker 2: like Okay, when I thought that Derey would have watched
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Speaker 2: the whole season, you know, play out and see it
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Speaker 2: play on in front of her and watch all the episodes,
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Speaker 2: I thought she was going to come into the reading
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Speaker 2: and softer. I really did, because I thought she was
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Speaker 2: going to see how maybe she wasn't having as much
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Speaker 2: empathy for all the other women as she should have been,
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Speaker 2: And she came in harder. She's harder.
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Speaker 1: No, that's like, that's who she is. I'm telling you, geez, geez.
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Speaker 2: I mean there's I mean, even on this part when
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Speaker 2: they on this part of the ring and when they
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Speaker 2: were saying, you know, Derey. You know, we all have
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Speaker 2: things going on. She still seemed like I was going
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Speaker 2: through a lot in the Hampton's, you know, and this
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Speaker 2: and that and or in Italy, and it's like, so
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Speaker 2: were all the other women. She never it just is
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Speaker 2: like over her head. It goes right over her head.
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Speaker 1: No, it was insane. So we'll get into that. Speaking
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Speaker 1: of things going over the head, we got again into
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Speaker 1: this Rachel Zoe beat that occurred when she talks about Roger,
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Speaker 1: her ex husband, and Andy's like, look. First of all,
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Speaker 1: he gave her a big compliment. He said that, you know,
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Speaker 1: when it comes to her being on the show, he
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Speaker 1: never thought he'll see the day that she would be
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Speaker 1: on this couch. We all love her and know her
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Speaker 1: from the Rachel Zoe project, when now she's on the Housewives,
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Speaker 1: and he thought she's doing a great job. Once he
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Speaker 1: talked about Roger and acts if Roger was happy or
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Speaker 1: had any things with the way he saw her talk
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Speaker 1: about him, she admitted that he isn't happy with it,
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Speaker 1: but she doesn't have any regrets either, and that you know,
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Speaker 1: that's just the way it is in terms of their relationship.
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Speaker 1: But the one that's thung the most is when she
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Speaker 1: says she can never see herself being friends with Raga's girlfriend.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, and I you know, I had a I had
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Speaker 2: kind of a weird feeling when she said that, because
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Speaker 2: in my mind it's like, I mean, I'm not going
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Speaker 2: to be best friends with them or whatever, but it's
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Speaker 2: like I actually did become best friends with one of
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Speaker 2: Jim's ex girlfriends. I mean, she was at my wedding
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Speaker 2: for God's sakes, really, and she was really good to
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Speaker 2: my kids when they were together, and you know, she
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Speaker 2: even helped me with my kids when I need them
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Speaker 2: to stay somewhere. She would, you know, and I'd watch
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Speaker 2: her daughter and her daughter come to stay with me,
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Speaker 2: and we were like just one big, happy family. So
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Speaker 2: I do think there's room for, you know, if you're
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Speaker 2: going to have someone else in your kid's life, for
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Speaker 2: there to be a friendship there, and who knows where
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Speaker 2: it'll come from, you know.
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Speaker 1: But how did you navigate fad yourself? Because I was
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Speaker 1: waiting to talk to you about this because I'm like,
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Speaker 1: what did this ex due to Rachel that she seems
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Speaker 1: to hate her. She didn't say those words I'm saying yet,
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Speaker 1: but the way she responds to her on the show,
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Speaker 1: talks about her on the show. It appears to me
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Speaker 1: she hates her, you mean.
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Speaker 2: Roger's girl, like you mean Rachel appears to hate Roger's girlfriend. Yes, yeah,
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Speaker 2: I get that too. I mean, I'm picking up on
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Speaker 2: that as you are. But I think here's the dell
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Speaker 2: first of all time, heals everything. I mean, I wasn't
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Speaker 2: friends with with this said girlfriend of Jem's at the time,
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Speaker 2: and when we first when they first got together, I
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Speaker 2: was Withdrew and they it was it was kind of contentious,
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Speaker 2: and it was like, you know, she'd be mad where
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Speaker 2: I parked in the driveway and I shouldn't park there,
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Speaker 2: and I need to do this, and it was just
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Speaker 2: like there was just a little stupid crap that was
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Speaker 2: going back and forth between us the whole while I'm
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Speaker 2: just trying to keep friendly with in front of the kids.
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Speaker 2: You know, it's all about the kids when you're doing
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Speaker 2: pick up and drop off. But then over time it
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Speaker 2: just became where we became friends, and then some a
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Speaker 2: huge thing happened and then her and I got really
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Speaker 2: really close and we've been good friends ever since then.
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Speaker 2: Been broken up now for like three years or something
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Speaker 2: or other. But four years probably, but we're just really
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Speaker 2: good friends, and I just think I think Rachel's just
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Speaker 2: gonna have to get over the factor unless unless Carlos,
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Speaker 2: there's something more missing that happened between Roger's girlfriend or
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Speaker 2: something about her that we don't know. That is why
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Speaker 2: Rachel hates her so much, because I would think Rachel
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Speaker 2: would want to have some kind of conversation about you know,
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Speaker 2: they're with the kids, that she has the kids part
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Speaker 2: of the time. So yeah, there's got to be something
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Speaker 2: more to the story.
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Speaker 1: The thing that isn't clear is whether or not this
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Speaker 1: is the woman that you think broke up your marriage. Now,
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Speaker 1: granted Roger broke up your marriage, I wouldn't say she did.
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Speaker 1: Even if they had an affair, she's part of it,
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Speaker 1: but your husband was the one that had the commitment. True,
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Speaker 1: But I don't. I don't think that Roger's girlfriend was
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Speaker 1: his mistress.
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Speaker 2: I wish we would know that because you know what,
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Speaker 2: though now you just said that, I have the recollection
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Speaker 2: of when Kayas said, oh, then I realized that is
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Speaker 2: the girl. That would mean that's the girl that broke
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Speaker 2: up the marriage. So it is the mistress, and that's
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Speaker 2: how his mother describes her yet right, So then in
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Speaker 2: that case, Carlos, it changes the whole scenario. I get
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Speaker 2: where Rachel's coming from, because it's like, you didn't have
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Speaker 2: the audacity to at least make this, you know, do
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Speaker 2: it the proper way, and you all had an affair,
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Speaker 2: even though it's not really the girl's fault. I mean,
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Speaker 2: at the end of the day, it takes two and
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Speaker 2: it's Roger was the married one, you know. But I mean,
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Speaker 2: but it does change things, and I can see where
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Speaker 2: if that is the truth, and I think, now you're right,
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Speaker 2: I think that must be the mistress.
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Speaker 1: But that's the thing. We don't. But but the thing is,
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Speaker 1: we don't know whether or not she was the mistress
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Speaker 1: or she is the right We don't. Rachel hasn't said it.
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Speaker 1: Maybe Lissa, if she is, and she hasn't said it,
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Speaker 1: is it because she can sue you, which I'm like,
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Speaker 1: if you are the mistress, that's right, whatever, But I
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Speaker 1: don't I don't think she's the mistress. I think I
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Speaker 1: just don't. Listen, Rachel strikes me as the type of
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Speaker 1: woman who wants to see Roger suffer, and what makes
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Speaker 1: her upset is he's not suffering. And he's moved on
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Speaker 1: and she can't deal with that. I think when I
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Speaker 1: think when people are going through a divorce, I do
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Speaker 1: think there are couples where you don't want the best
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Speaker 1: for your ex, you know what I mean? Like the
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Speaker 1: Karda do you kind of want him to be a
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Speaker 1: shell of himself? You you want him to struggle. And
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Speaker 1: I think when it comes to Dread and Rachel, that's
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Speaker 1: what they have in comment. Their exes have moved on
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Speaker 1: and they haven't.
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Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, I mean, I don't know. I feel like
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Speaker 2: I wish I wish Rachel didn't have so much resentment
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Speaker 2: towards Roger because it actually it actually is only gonna
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Speaker 2: fester in Rachel and make Rachel more unhappy. You know,
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Speaker 2: she could just move on and move past it. You know,
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Speaker 2: she had the hot guy Sasha on the red carpet,
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Speaker 2: so holy heck, I mean, spend more time with that guy,
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Speaker 2: but right, I mean he was he was good look good,
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Speaker 2: and they've like a very cute couple. Yeah, I wish
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Speaker 2: she would would move on past that pasty anger.
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Speaker 1: The thing is, Rachel I saw the pick of Sasha.
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Speaker 1: She definitely has a type. She likes a pretty boy,
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Speaker 1: because Roger was a boy here. Yeah, she likes metro
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Speaker 1: sexual man.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, but it doesn't look Yeah. I dont wonder if
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Speaker 2: he's too young for her, or maybe he likes the
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Speaker 2: older woman too. He looked he looks about He looked
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Speaker 2: ten or so years younger. I don't know, but they
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Speaker 2: look really cute together.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, she's because the thing is this, she's fifty.
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Speaker 2: Four, Yeah, and he looks thirty five ish.
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Speaker 1: He definitely looked like he's in his thirties. Yeah, so
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Speaker 1: she has a type. She liked you an that looks
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Speaker 1: a little. He's into his his skincare, he's into fashion.
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Speaker 2: Okay.
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Speaker 1: He likes a manny petty. He likes to blowout, you
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Speaker 1: know at dry bar.
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Speaker 2: Well. I make John go get manny petties with me,
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Speaker 2: So don't make fun of that.
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Speaker 1: I take a pot. I'm just saying that does John
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Speaker 1: like a blowout?
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Speaker 2: And no, he has his He definitely has his set
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Speaker 2: dates on when he gets his hair done. He gets
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Speaker 2: his hair cut every every four weeks at the exact
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Speaker 2: same time like he's he's he takes care of himself.
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Speaker 2: I'll just say that it's it's nice. He's very groomed.
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Speaker 1: I love it. That's what I'll say. Rachel likes a
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Speaker 1: very groomed Yeah.
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Speaker 2: She's not gonna be dating the mountain man with the
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Speaker 2: beard and the and the cowboy hat. You know, she
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Speaker 2: likes the She does like the the clean cut, groomed guy.
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Speaker 2: But I mean it's Rachel Zoe. Look at her, hello, No, everything.
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Speaker 1: She's everything, beautiful woman.
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Speaker 2: Did you notice when did you notice when Andy asked
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Speaker 2: Rachel about what he does and she was Andy was
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Speaker 2: talking about that, And did you notice Amanda's looks wheneverever
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Speaker 2: Andy would say something about he was a online motivator
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Speaker 2: or whatever, and all the way Amanda would look like
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Speaker 2: she was like she was smirking, and I don't know,
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Speaker 2: I wondered what was going through her head.
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Speaker 1: I am going to give you my strong POV of
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Speaker 1: this ship right here. Okay, brain drops. It was revealed
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Speaker 1: that you know, Rachel's dating this guy, and I thought
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Speaker 1: it was too the way she was sort of like
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Speaker 1: very diddy, because you know, like you know, as girls,
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Speaker 1: when you first fought to love, you're just like, oh
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Speaker 1: not love. When you put the butterfly you like somebody,
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Speaker 1: you wait.
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Speaker 2: Carlos, she was acting like they're just friends. You think
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Speaker 2: they're more, because she was like, we are friends, we
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Speaker 2: are friends or friends. I mean she was acting like, no,
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Speaker 2: they're more.
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Speaker 1: Okay, I think listen, do I think they're they're exclusive?
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Speaker 1: Maybe not, but they're definitely boinking. Their friends would be
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Speaker 1: their friends would benefits, and she was getting over this guy.
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Speaker 1: The best part was when it was revealed that Rachloseau's
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Speaker 1: boyfriend as a relationship coach and personal development expert, how
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Speaker 1: he does like love and intention And you look at
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Speaker 1: Amanda and I'm like, Racheloseau, you big hypocrite. You dragged
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Speaker 1: what Amanda did for a living throughout the entire season.
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Speaker 1: I don't understand your manifestation courses. Her man sells online
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Speaker 1: courses as well. He does things with alignment, intention, love
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Speaker 1: and all that shit, so does Amanda. You thought it
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Speaker 1: was a crockets shit with Amanda do it, but because
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Speaker 1: of your groomed boyfriend with the dry bar blowout, because
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Speaker 1: he does it too, it's acceptable. But I was mad
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Speaker 1: because Alexis. I wish Amanda would have said something like
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Speaker 1: I need you to clock in. I would have said, well,
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Speaker 1: how rich is that, Rachel? How rich is that?
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Speaker 2: You're so right? I didn't even think about it. I
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Speaker 2: didn't think about she was, but you know what, you
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Speaker 2: know what happens, Tonny, when you're at those reunions. Sometimes
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Speaker 2: you'll remember something and it'll kind of fester in you,
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Speaker 2: like when you have your hour lunch break or whatever,
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Speaker 2: and then when it comes on Amanda and they're talking
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Speaker 2: to Amanda, that might be when she looks at Rachel
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Speaker 2: and addresses it. There might be another time where it
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Speaker 2: actually registers in Amanda that that just happened and she
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Speaker 2: can go, you know, and I didn't appreciate the fact
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Speaker 2: that your cracking on me, but your boyfriend does almost
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Speaker 2: what I do. You know, there might be a time
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Speaker 2: it might come back and you don't leave hoping Amanda
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Speaker 2: yet Amanda had clocked in. I will say that she
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Speaker 2: does not. She clocks in for this season. She doesn't
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Speaker 2: miss a beat.
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Speaker 1: So she did, she did, and we'll get to her too.
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Speaker 1: So No, I just thought that was very rich because
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Speaker 1: to say they he does things with like mind body alignment.
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Speaker 1: I'll was like, once again, Amanda is vindicated right now.
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Speaker 1: She was vindicated again in the rest of the episode.
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Speaker 1: But up next we have Erica Jane, who by the
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Speaker 1: way looked gorgeous. Is she clocked in? I felt like
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Speaker 1: she was co hosting the reunion, by the way, right.
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Speaker 2: I just love her. I just I just love her.
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Speaker 2: I don't know. And even after this episode, like the
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Speaker 2: whole season actually, but then this, you know, this reunion,
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Speaker 2: I just I just love her. I just think she's
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Speaker 2: got she's got so much more to her than She's
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Speaker 2: kind of one of those that slow rolls out, you know,
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Speaker 2: like throughout the last ten years she's been on or
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Speaker 2: whatever nine years it's been, she kind of slow rolls out.
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Speaker 2: But I just you get to know more about her,
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Speaker 2: and it's just like, yeah, and she did. She was
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Speaker 2: she was basically running the show.
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Speaker 1: I loved it. I loved it. I loved it. What
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Speaker 1: she talked about in her package was, obviously she spoke
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Speaker 1: about the fmastic abuse. She was yes, and she said
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Speaker 1: the way she left the relationship was her calling mine
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Speaker 1: one one, which you know, she talked about that to
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Speaker 1: Denise Richards. But the stuff that surprised me was when
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Speaker 1: she was talking about her ex husband, Tom Gerardi, when
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Speaker 1: she said that he was emotionally and financially abusive.
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Speaker 2: Can you even believe that she was with him for
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Speaker 2: that many years and pulled it together on a national
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Speaker 2: television show all the while, and did not let us
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Speaker 2: see one glimpse of that when they would film together,
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Speaker 2: that he was emotionally abusive to her. I just can't
18:43
Speaker 2: even I can't believe it. It's so hard. She lived
18:46
Speaker 2: a lot of years like that. Weren't they together twenty yes?
18:50
Speaker 2: Good God?
18:54
Speaker 1: And then when she said he did not talk to
18:57
Speaker 1: her for six weeks.
18:59
Speaker 2: Your husband, who you live in a house with, guarantee
19:02
Speaker 2: this week. But yeah, yeah, Carlos. Their house is the
19:04
Speaker 2: size of a hotel, so it doesn't matter. They could
19:06
Speaker 2: be in someone could be in Barbados and someone else's
19:08
Speaker 2: as Mohamas. It's fine, but like, but no, it stills still.
19:12
Speaker 2: It's like, oh my gosh, six weeks is like, what
19:15
Speaker 2: would you do. I wouldn't be able to do that.
19:17
Speaker 2: I'd go sit down and say, let's talk. Like I
19:19
Speaker 2: couldn't go six weeks. I couldn't even go six hours.
19:22
Speaker 1: I'm gonna say, I, okay, what was the longest time
19:28
Speaker 1: you every day? Your husband or anybody in the past.
19:34
Speaker 1: The silent treatment.
19:36
Speaker 2: I don't want to talk about like boyfriends. I would
19:37
Speaker 2: only talk about like my husband or John or Drew,
19:40
Speaker 2: because those are my three main relationships in life. I
19:43
Speaker 2: would say not even twenty four hours. I mean like,
19:48
Speaker 2: I mean, if if one of like Drew, lived on
19:50
Speaker 2: the other over a mountain and I lived here, and
19:52
Speaker 2: I think I think one day we got into something,
19:54
Speaker 2: he left and we didn't talk that night, and then
19:56
Speaker 2: we talked the next morning. I mean, it's nothing. It
19:59
Speaker 2: would not be. I can't. I can't sit on stuff
20:02
Speaker 2: like that, you know. I I got to talk it through.
20:05
Speaker 1: That's why I'm shot. The longest I gave my ex
20:08
Speaker 1: was I mean, listen, I'm a talker like you. I
20:11
Speaker 1: want to say maybe, I don't know, six seven hours,
20:17
Speaker 1: you know. And then he I remember him saying this
20:21
Speaker 1: to me because he's like, of course, this is when
20:24
Speaker 1: we made up. He said, I'm with you because you're
20:28
Speaker 1: talking to him. So your solid treatment bothers me because
20:32
Speaker 1: it's sort of like who he doesn't recognize me? So
20:37
Speaker 1: to go six weeks of living in a house with
20:42
Speaker 1: somebody and they're not talking to you ghost to show
20:46
Speaker 1: you how emotionally abusive, narcissistic, what the type of man
20:53
Speaker 1: he was, which is why unfortunately to listen I don't
20:57
Speaker 1: wish battle anybody, only God right us. But it goes
21:01
Speaker 1: to show you that the stuff that you did to
21:06
Speaker 1: these victims, it goes to show you that Tom never
21:10
Speaker 1: really had a genuine heart.
21:13
Speaker 2: Well, there's two things I want to say. First of all,
21:15
Speaker 2: what would you do if you were with one of
21:18
Speaker 2: your people, the people you've dated, and they just wouldn't
21:22
Speaker 2: talk to you? And like, in my mind, I'm like,
21:24
Speaker 2: did Erica even try? Did she go in and try
21:26
Speaker 2: to talk to him and he would just not talk
21:27
Speaker 2: to her? Or did they did he literally like just
21:30
Speaker 2: leave the house and not come back, or like because how?
21:32
Speaker 2: Because I would be like I would follow John around
21:35
Speaker 2: until he finally just sat down with me. I'd be
21:37
Speaker 2: like the little annoying and okay, well now what you know,
21:39
Speaker 2: and just follow him around? So what what would you do?
21:43
Speaker 1: Hey, listen, I'm like you. The thing is this, I
21:47
Speaker 1: would do the solid treatment. And because I knew that
21:51
Speaker 1: I have power in the situation, just based on me
21:54
Speaker 1: being a talker and Alexis I was always right. So
22:00
Speaker 1: but I want to say there was one time he
22:02
Speaker 1: gave me the solid treatment, and I just remember giving
22:07
Speaker 1: him his space, right because I gave him a space,
22:12
Speaker 1: but I've made sure I was in the house. And
22:14
Speaker 1: then we had this rule where we had to say
22:19
Speaker 1: good morning to each other somethink. The next morning I
22:21
Speaker 1: said good morning and he was like, good morning, and
22:25
Speaker 1: that broke the eyes. So I can't imagine doing that
22:28
Speaker 1: for two months.
22:30
Speaker 2: But that was that was good that you guys have
22:32
Speaker 2: that rule, is what I want to say. But yeah,
22:34
Speaker 2: I just can't even I can't even put myself in
22:36
Speaker 2: the position of where Erica was to where you go
22:40
Speaker 2: for six weeks and you don't because I mean, even
22:42
Speaker 2: if I'm mad at John or something, I'm still we
22:45
Speaker 2: still say Hi. It's like Hi, we still talk, you know,
22:47
Speaker 2: like it's like, yeah, we really get mad very often.
22:49
Speaker 2: I'm just saying, but it's like it happens. But it's
22:51
Speaker 2: like I can't And if you and I don't look
22:53
Speaker 2: at it as silent treatment with my relationships, I look
22:56
Speaker 2: at it as we both need to process and think
22:58
Speaker 2: about what just happened and then talked about it a
23:00
Speaker 2: few days A few not a few days, excuse me
23:02
Speaker 2: a few hours later, Like I don't look at it
23:04
Speaker 2: as I don't think silent treatment is a very healthy thing.
23:07
Speaker 2: So I really try to still stare clear that what
23:10
Speaker 2: about the fact that Tom never went to any of
23:12
Speaker 2: her Broadway shows or any of her performances or read
23:16
Speaker 2: or read her book. Wouldn't I mean John would probably
23:20
Speaker 2: be in on every page I was right as I
23:21
Speaker 2: was writing it. If I was writing a book like interested,
23:24
Speaker 2: you know what I mean, Like it's so weird.
23:26
Speaker 1: But I'm gonna tell you. I'm gonna tell you what
23:28
Speaker 1: that means to me. What because he had the money
23:33
Speaker 1: in the relationship, and because he and this is this
23:39
Speaker 1: is Tom Gerrawi's mind. To me, he felt like I
23:44
Speaker 1: rescued you from a waitress, and I've given you this
23:51
Speaker 1: great life we live in. We live in the Pacific Palisades,
23:56
Speaker 1: you get to jet say and do all these things.
24:00
Speaker 1: He's like, I don't have to do much. I can
24:03
Speaker 1: do the bare minimum because of what I've given you,
24:06
Speaker 1: you would still be waiting on tables. You're so right.
24:09
Speaker 1: It wasn't for me so to know why he never
24:14
Speaker 1: showed upting her events or her Broadway shows, he did
24:17
Speaker 1: not read her book, and how she admitted that she
24:20
Speaker 1: protected him even on the show, and then to add
24:25
Speaker 1: insult to injury when she said how she would be
24:32
Speaker 1: so afraid to film with him because she never knew
24:36
Speaker 1: what would come out of his mouth.
24:37
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, no, it wasn't that. Well, maybe she said
24:40
Speaker 2: that too, But the other part was she was worried
24:42
Speaker 2: about what she was going to say and then what
24:44
Speaker 2: ramifications would happen when she got home. Yeah, she said,
24:47
Speaker 2: I was worried about what I would say, and I
24:49
Speaker 2: had to worry about constantly, worry about what I would
24:51
Speaker 2: say and if it was going to be bad, and
24:52
Speaker 2: give her a silent treatment again for six weeks. You
24:54
Speaker 2: know that she lived twenty years of agony. You know,
24:59
Speaker 2: I'm sure there were a good time thrown in there, Carlos,
25:01
Speaker 2: But you know, and that I think a lot of
25:04
Speaker 2: men do think that. I think a lot of men
25:05
Speaker 2: think if they've got the money, that I'm doing my job.
25:08
Speaker 2: I don't have to do a lot of ELTs. I
25:09
Speaker 2: don't have to have the emotional connection or the physical
25:12
Speaker 2: It's just I'm I'm the money provider and here you are,
25:14
Speaker 2: You're the candy on my arm kind of thing.
25:16
Speaker 1: You know. That's it. That's how they feel.
25:19
Speaker 2: And I'm just so glad that it didn't break Erica
25:21
Speaker 2: and she literally like flourished during that time, like she
25:24
Speaker 2: still was obviously you know, giving time for her talents
25:27
Speaker 2: and knowing that she was a talented human and and
25:30
Speaker 2: didn't just curl up in a ball and and you know,
25:33
Speaker 2: she look at what she blossomed into.
25:36
Speaker 1: It.
25:36
Speaker 2: It was it was a great story.
25:39
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was. It was really really really sad to
25:42
Speaker 1: know that this was what she was going through at
25:46
Speaker 1: that time. And when Andy said, if you could ask
25:50
Speaker 1: him one question, what would it be? And she said,
25:55
Speaker 1: why did you throw me out like this? Yeah, for
25:59
Speaker 1: me to with all of the stuff that I have
26:01
Speaker 1: to go through.
26:03
Speaker 2: And by the way, stuff I didn't know about lies
26:05
Speaker 2: and things you did behind your my back and you
26:08
Speaker 2: left me in this position.
26:09
Speaker 1: H It's it's just it's it's and that's.
26:13
Speaker 2: Why I get really frustrated with dere because when you
26:15
Speaker 2: because I could even feel in my stomach is heavy
26:17
Speaker 2: and my heart's heavy right now for Erica knowing all
26:20
Speaker 2: of that, and it's like, how can Duret, who was
26:22
Speaker 2: one of her best friends, simply on the reunion even
26:25
Speaker 2: just kind of like washed by it, Like, well, I'm sorry,
26:27
Speaker 2: you weren't talking about it, so I'm sorry.
26:30
Speaker 1: Yeah, like someone's.
26:31
Speaker 2: Saying it's like someone's saying, well, I'm sorry your mom died.
26:35
Speaker 2: You don't talk about it, but I'm sorry she died.
26:36
Speaker 2: And it's like, well, I don't have to talk about it.
26:38
Speaker 2: She died and I think about her every day and
26:40
Speaker 2: it's very sad, and you know, it's like that's where
26:43
Speaker 2: it feels like it's so it's like just because you're
26:45
Speaker 2: not talking about it every minute of the day, the
26:47
Speaker 2: pain's not there, right.
26:50
Speaker 1: And it's not and that and that's the thing for me,
26:52
Speaker 1: is like it's not even fair. But no, I thought
26:58
Speaker 1: Erica gave some much more insight in her world because
27:02
Speaker 1: we know she's private, which of course is an oxymoron
27:06
Speaker 1: because she's on a reality show, but nonetheless she nonetheless
27:10
Speaker 1: you know she is. She is still private, and even
27:15
Speaker 1: Teddy Mellencamp said on her podcast that de Re definitely
27:19
Speaker 1: knew that Erica went through all of that at this time,
27:24
Speaker 1: even prior to the show, which is why it was
27:26
Speaker 1: her like, I just don't believe anything to Reed says,
27:30
Speaker 1: but alexis one of the best moments, and listen, maybe
27:36
Speaker 1: the best moment of this reunion is doing the commercial
27:41
Speaker 1: break yes to read if she is using the chandel
27:46
Speaker 1: makeup kiss she gave her a few years ago. Reges, yes,
27:51
Speaker 1: that's how much she meant to me, and Erica screams
27:55
Speaker 1: same and rolls her eyes, and I'm like.
28:01
Speaker 2: And then and then Erica goes under her breath, Erica goes,
28:04
Speaker 2: you get what you give. Oh, it's great, great?
28:11
Speaker 1: What did you think about that? Like, why do you
28:13
Speaker 1: think Eric coughs up in me to make a point of.
28:16
Speaker 2: That, because she's trying to say, I love you so much.
28:20
Speaker 2: I bought you a makeup bag and you're still using it,
28:22
Speaker 2: and it's like, that's how close we are, Like, and
28:25
Speaker 2: that's a Channel makeup bag, that's a three thousand dollars
28:27
Speaker 2: makeup bag. So it's like, you know, I love you
28:29
Speaker 2: this much and you love me enough that you're still
28:30
Speaker 2: using it. So I think she wanted to make a
28:31
Speaker 2: point and be like, we used to be real friends,
28:34
Speaker 2: like we used we used to be true friends, and
28:37
Speaker 2: you're forgetting all of our history and then you want
28:40
Speaker 2: to act like someone you've known two seasons is better
28:42
Speaker 2: friends with you than what the decade we've had a friendship.
28:46
Speaker 2: It's all deeper. It's deeper than just that makeup bugs.
28:49
Speaker 1: That makes sense, That makes sense, and do you think
28:56
Speaker 1: what do you think they're knew what she was trying
29:01
Speaker 1: to do, which is why she made that comment of yes,
29:05
Speaker 1: And this pretty much goes to show you how much
29:07
Speaker 1: I care about you, Like I don't think I shouldn't
29:10
Speaker 1: make up kid meant that. And I also wanted to
29:13
Speaker 1: clarify did Erica gift her the bag? Did she loan
29:20
Speaker 1: it to her? And did we never gave it back
29:22
Speaker 1: to her?
29:23
Speaker 2: That me no, because Erica said, is that that bag
29:27
Speaker 2: I gave you at that one holiday? And it's like
29:30
Speaker 2: Erica couldn't even remember if as a birthday or Christmas
29:32
Speaker 2: or what And Dreik goes, yeah, and that's how much
29:36
Speaker 2: I think. Honestly, Erica was just trying to be a
29:38
Speaker 2: little bit of a you know, a little bit of
29:39
Speaker 2: a fucker and saying being like, look, girlfriend, you know
29:43
Speaker 2: like I gave you good gifts, you gave me good
29:44
Speaker 2: gifts where you were friends. Like I think she was
29:46
Speaker 2: just trying to stir the pot and make a good
29:48
Speaker 2: little teaser for the break, which she did. She clocked
29:51
Speaker 2: in at that moment.
29:52
Speaker 1: It was so good, It was so good. I love
29:53
Speaker 1: that speaking of Dree, she talks about p K, and
30:02
Speaker 1: in this moment, she accuses Kyle of telling Mauricio things
30:08
Speaker 1: that Durit was saying on camera, and then Mauricio would
30:12
Speaker 1: take those things that Kyle told him and he would
30:16
Speaker 1: tell p K. And then she said, p K will
30:20
Speaker 1: taunt her, texting her saying oh you're not doing well,
30:26
Speaker 1: pretty much the same thing that you know she's saying.
30:29
Speaker 2: You know, I really didn't believe much of that, though.
30:33
Speaker 2: I don't. I don't know what do you were do
30:35
Speaker 2: you said on it? I don't really believe. I think
30:37
Speaker 2: I think Durit it's very easy for Durit to say
30:40
Speaker 2: it got back to PK. Because PK is not talking
30:42
Speaker 2: to any of those women. It's very easy for Durit
30:43
Speaker 2: to say whatever she wants about PK. So I don't
30:46
Speaker 2: think PK really heard every anything and was like, was like, oh,
30:49
Speaker 2: you're not doing well. I just I just think I
30:52
Speaker 2: think d wants everyone to you know, think that.
30:56
Speaker 1: I agree with you, because my thing is this, if
30:58
Speaker 1: you felt that way, you would not have wanted to
31:01
Speaker 1: meet with Mauricio one on one.
31:04
Speaker 2: But yeah, good point, Like you're sitting there, you're actually
31:06
Speaker 2: braining fueled with the fire because you're meeting with PK's
31:09
Speaker 2: best friend right now, and you lost that fight. You
31:12
Speaker 2: lost that that round.
31:14
Speaker 1: You know, which is why she's acting that way. She's
31:18
Speaker 1: acting that way because she lost that battle. She lost
31:21
Speaker 1: the battle of try to turn the audience against Pique
31:25
Speaker 1: by using Mauricio sit down, and because of backfire, that's
31:29
Speaker 1: why she's now making these accusations towards Kyle.
31:33
Speaker 2: I agree, I agree, And I think Kyle handled it fine.
31:37
Speaker 2: She didn't blow up, and it kind of just it
31:39
Speaker 2: was a very short snippet of it, and I think,
31:41
Speaker 2: you know, I mean, Kyle's got a lot of anger
31:44
Speaker 2: in her though. You can see she's going to go
31:45
Speaker 2: off this reunion, I can see it.
31:48
Speaker 1: Do you think Kyle wasn't the wrong when Dared said,
31:51
Speaker 1: you know, she doesn't understand why Kyle's worried about her
31:54
Speaker 1: spending habits. Rachel Zeau had a friend who closed the
31:59
Speaker 1: store down, and Deree wanted to spend money because the
32:03
Speaker 1: frank closed the store down, and she wants to make
32:06
Speaker 1: sure that, you know, he got something out of it,
32:08
Speaker 1: and she spent four thousand dollars. But Kyle was like,
32:14
Speaker 1: you are not in the same I'm not in the
32:16
Speaker 1: same financial position as you.
32:19
Speaker 2: I don't think there's anything wrong with saying that it's true.
32:22
Speaker 2: I mean, do you you you don't agree with me?
32:25
Speaker 2: I mean I think I think there's I don't think
32:27
Speaker 2: it's anyone. Let me say it this way, it's not
32:29
Speaker 2: really anyone's business what Dereit decides to do with her money.
32:31
Speaker 2: But I mean, with how much Derrett has has kind
32:35
Speaker 2: of crapped on the other girls in the group this season,
32:37
Speaker 2: I mean, I don't think it's any wrong that Kyle
32:39
Speaker 2: says to her. You know you you don't You're not
32:42
Speaker 2: in the same financial situation. I mean, Carlos, her house
32:45
Speaker 2: is getting foreclosed on. So four thousand dollars is a
32:50
Speaker 2: lot of money when you think your house is getting
32:52
Speaker 2: foreclosed on. So I mean, there's just not much else
32:58
Speaker 2: to say than that. And and I don't think there's
33:00
Speaker 2: anything wrong with Kyle pointing it out, Like maybe it's
33:03
Speaker 2: nobody's business. But at the same time, you're on a
33:05
Speaker 2: reality show trying to pull all these things out of
33:07
Speaker 2: each other.
33:07
Speaker 1: So I think listen, all is fair in love, money,
33:15
Speaker 1: and war. So if you're going to say that, you
33:19
Speaker 1: know you better hope that one day you don't be
33:23
Speaker 1: in my position. And Kyle's like, I'm not in your
33:25
Speaker 1: same financial position, like I'm just not. I think that's
33:28
Speaker 1: fair to say, because listen, I don't think Kyle is
33:31
Speaker 1: saying to her, you know, poor reed, the way Ston
33:35
Speaker 1: did last season, right, poor read. I think Colin saying,
33:41
Speaker 1: don't try to even put that on me, because I
33:46
Speaker 1: know how much money is spent, I know who's paying
33:50
Speaker 1: the mortgage. I'm aware of where my money is coming
33:54
Speaker 1: and going, right, And I think that's what Kyle was
33:57
Speaker 1: trying to say. But again she said in a very
33:59
Speaker 1: snippy way, and I think I thought it was fair
34:02
Speaker 1: to say that.
34:03
Speaker 2: So I killed you good point about what you just said,
34:06
Speaker 2: because here's the thing they asked story point blank. They said,
34:09
Speaker 2: but do you know that PK is paying off the
34:11
Speaker 2: house now or did you know he was going to
34:13
Speaker 2: pay off the house? And she said I thought he was.
34:16
Speaker 2: So their point is you're not on top of the finances.
34:18
Speaker 2: You're not on top of knowing what's being done and
34:21
Speaker 2: what's being paid because it didn't get paid, and so
34:23
Speaker 2: that was part of their point. So that was you're right,
34:26
Speaker 2: You're absolutely right.
34:27
Speaker 1: About that, and that's why.
34:28
Speaker 2: Wow, that's why she ended up sent Kyle ended up saying,
34:31
Speaker 2: and I'm not in the same financial situation as you. Like,
34:33
Speaker 2: that's part of that too. It all ties in together.
34:37
Speaker 1: If it is what it is, And that's why when
34:40
Speaker 1: she when Deie was trying to say, like, you know,
34:42
Speaker 1: I don't have any money problems, and Erica under her
34:45
Speaker 1: breath was like, but your home, your home is being
34:47
Speaker 1: proclosed on, and she addresses the foreclosure by saying that
34:53
Speaker 1: p K p K is going to bring the house
34:58
Speaker 1: current and they will then look for a house. Baby,
35:03
Speaker 1: you are delusional. P K is not Why the world
35:09
Speaker 1: would p K pay his past due balance and then
35:16
Speaker 1: find you a brand new house. It makes no sense.
35:20
Speaker 2: And why wouldn't have already paid it all off exactly?
35:23
Speaker 2: Why wouldn't it already been if he was going to
35:24
Speaker 2: do it, what's he waiting for? It would be made
35:27
Speaker 2: current already.
35:30
Speaker 1: And that's the what calls like, bitch, I'm not we're
35:33
Speaker 1: not the same financial position, because not And we'll learn
35:36
Speaker 1: this next week. Kyle owns half of the agency.
35:40
Speaker 2: I know. Wasn't that a I was like, I mean,
35:43
Speaker 2: it's true, you're on half of whatever your partner and
35:45
Speaker 2: you have together as long as you're married, so it's
35:48
Speaker 2: not like it's legal. She gets half of it period.
35:52
Speaker 2: I don't even think Mauricio is the type that cares.
35:54
Speaker 2: I don't think he's good. She's gonna be no a
35:57
Speaker 2: non factor in it. She just gets part of the money.
35:59
Speaker 2: She's not to be an operating fact.
36:02
Speaker 1: You know, yeah, I heard. The reason why I don't
36:05
Speaker 1: think he cares either is because I think for him,
36:09
Speaker 1: I think he's just like he. I think Mauricio understands
36:17
Speaker 1: that Kyle, because she said this. She was the one
36:20
Speaker 1: that encouraged him, like we're both going to take our
36:24
Speaker 1: real estate exams, okay. And when he did lead Kathy
36:31
Speaker 1: Hilton's husband Rick Hilton's the Hilton Incorporated Agency, they had
36:38
Speaker 1: a falling out and Kyle still by his side. Kyle
36:42
Speaker 1: and Kathy did not speak for years because Marie, you know,
36:48
Speaker 1: and I think Mauricia knows that you encouraged me to
36:51
Speaker 1: take my real esteat exam. You encourage encourage for your
36:57
Speaker 1: brother in law's company. You urged me to start this
37:01
Speaker 1: company with you. And on top of that, let's be
37:05
Speaker 1: fucking clear, this massive show that you've been up for
37:08
Speaker 1: fifteen years, helped thank you be a household name. Thank
37:14
Speaker 1: you so thank you Kyle. I could. I think Marisa
37:18
Speaker 1: knows I literally could not do this with value.
37:21
Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree, And you know, I also think that
37:25
Speaker 2: they have such a love for each other, like like
37:27
Speaker 2: they're not like the typical divorced people getting going through
37:31
Speaker 2: this operation. I think they both have such a love
37:33
Speaker 2: for each other that even though they're not going to
37:35
Speaker 2: be married, or maybe they will work it out in
37:37
Speaker 2: five years, who knows, but I think that they just
37:39
Speaker 2: they don't have that animosity about, you know, and they
37:42
Speaker 2: have three beautiful daughters together. I just think they have
37:45
Speaker 2: a really there They're the epitome of what you would
37:48
Speaker 2: want a divorce to look like, you know, annakable, not
37:51
Speaker 2: fighting over money, just understanding the value each of you
37:55
Speaker 2: bring to the table, because they both bring value. M hm.
38:00
Speaker 1: I can agree. More so, then Erica tries to give
38:05
Speaker 1: advice to Derey, saying she knows what exactly she needs
38:13
Speaker 1: to do. But I feel like is falling on depth airs.
38:17
Speaker 1: For I just think the refeels like I got this
38:19
Speaker 1: all figured out and the staff part is and this
38:22
Speaker 1: is no shade to the ree I just think dry.
38:26
Speaker 1: I don't think dere is savvy enough to understand the
38:29
Speaker 1: mechanics of how to get out of the situations he's in,
38:34
Speaker 1: because she also, you have to know how you got
38:39
Speaker 1: in it to get out of it. Yes, you know
38:42
Speaker 1: what I mean, Alexis and I don't think. I don't
38:45
Speaker 1: think she has the tools to hold herself accountable when
38:50
Speaker 1: it comes to you put yourself in this situation.
38:55
Speaker 2: Well, I wonder if even if they're inamicable enough place,
38:59
Speaker 2: dre And and Piquet to talk about it at all,
39:03
Speaker 2: like the way he would sit down and tell ladurit
39:04
Speaker 2: and say this is what we need to do to
39:05
Speaker 2: get out of it. I feel like they're they're almost
39:07
Speaker 2: like like do they ever even talk about it? Like
39:10
Speaker 2: what are the next steps that need to happen?
39:12
Speaker 1: Yeah, well she did say that they're cordial now and
39:17
Speaker 1: she yeah, yeah.
39:21
Speaker 2: I didn't know if I should believe that or not.
39:23
Speaker 1: What do you think it's true?
39:25
Speaker 2: I don't know, Carlos, It's just like they're it's like
39:27
Speaker 2: they're never they never have been. I just wonder why now.
39:30
Speaker 2: Maybe because he saw how bad it was when they
39:32
Speaker 2: weren't talking, so maybe they should be amicable.
39:34
Speaker 1: I don't know, yeah, yeah, yeah, it's it's.
39:39
Speaker 2: I just I'm sad because I really really really thought
39:42
Speaker 2: and I loved to Ree and you've told you this,
39:43
Speaker 2: like I am going to read her books. I think
39:44
Speaker 2: she's fascinating. But I'm sad because I really thought she
39:48
Speaker 2: was going to come in softened after watching herself. And
39:53
Speaker 2: it just makes me sad because I think she is
39:54
Speaker 2: a good person and I think she's just does she's
39:57
Speaker 2: a little she's not singing clearly right now.
40:00
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, I just don't think she has the I
40:06
Speaker 1: don't think she has the tools to be sensitive or
40:09
Speaker 1: to hear people out. I think I think it is
40:12
Speaker 1: what Erica said. I think she's just self absorbed.
40:16
Speaker 2: But is that because it's something new or was she
40:18
Speaker 2: like this on other like the last couple of seasons.
40:21
Speaker 1: I believe she was always like this. It's just now
40:23
Speaker 1: more compounded because she is unapologetic about it, because she's
40:29
Speaker 1: being rewarded for being like this because it gives her
40:31
Speaker 1: airtime and she gives to keep her job. So it's
40:35
Speaker 1: having a good performance review based on her.
40:38
Speaker 2: Employer at the expensive two of your best friends.
40:41
Speaker 1: Though, I think she feels like I care more about
40:45
Speaker 1: me and not being left on the streets. I think
40:51
Speaker 1: I think Derie has big concern about being poor and
40:56
Speaker 1: that means I lose two friends out of it. That
41:03
Speaker 1: I do believe that. How did you feel when dere
41:07
Speaker 1: wanted to make sure that she addressed Amanda's comment that
41:12
Speaker 1: Amanda made to her husband this season where she said
41:16
Speaker 1: that is to be mad because she outsourced her financial
41:21
Speaker 1: will being to a man and it did not go well.
41:26
Speaker 2: Pretty brutal to say. And I agree with Rachel Zoe
41:30
Speaker 2: because when she said, you know that it kind of
41:32
Speaker 2: attacks women who want to be a stay at home mom,
41:35
Speaker 2: because that's where the category I fell into, you know,
41:37
Speaker 2: Jim and I agreed I would quit my career and
41:40
Speaker 2: I would be a stay at home mom and it
41:42
Speaker 2: didn't make me any lesser of a you know, hard
41:45
Speaker 2: working human. But it was just it was kind of
41:49
Speaker 2: a low blow. I didn't love that. Erica said that,
41:53
Speaker 2: what did you think or did you think it or
41:55
Speaker 2: Amanda said that I know, I'm sorry abandoned or did
41:58
Speaker 2: you think that that was a well deserved thing to say?
42:01
Speaker 1: Well, look, I think it's shade for shade. I think
42:04
Speaker 1: I think if we go back to where Amanda was
42:07
Speaker 1: at the time she said it. This was right after
42:11
Speaker 1: Derte would not stop talking to her about her issues
42:15
Speaker 1: when she had formed her Today is the anniversary of
42:18
Speaker 1: my son's death, and Dery still felt the need to
42:21
Speaker 1: attack her verbally. I think Amanda at that time of
42:26
Speaker 1: when she said it again, I believe in you can't
42:30
Speaker 1: teach me how to fight fair when you when you
42:32
Speaker 1: do the first glow. Now, if she would have said
42:35
Speaker 1: that independently and Dere's crying, then I yeah, that's a
42:40
Speaker 1: fucked up thing to say. But I think based on
42:43
Speaker 1: the history of Derit and Amanda at that time she
42:47
Speaker 1: said it during filming, I think Amanda was warranted.
42:52
Speaker 2: That's a good point. I forgot about the fact about
42:55
Speaker 2: that it started with Derete and Amanda's first He was
42:58
Speaker 2: talking about her firstborn died and it seemed like Dorit
43:02
Speaker 2: had not one compassion in her body. But that goes
43:04
Speaker 2: back to what I've been saying all season, is that
43:07
Speaker 2: Dery just doesn't have empathy for anyone right now. But
43:10
Speaker 2: you're right, it started there. I just I don't know.
43:12
Speaker 2: I still just I guess I feel like maybe the
43:14
Speaker 2: low blows don't just don't need to keep going like
43:16
Speaker 2: maybe you know, but I do. I do appreciate that
43:19
Speaker 2: Amanda apologize. She did say, yeah, I can see how
43:22
Speaker 2: you've be taken that way, and I apologize for that.
43:24
Speaker 2: So I like that she turned that around. Amanda makes
43:27
Speaker 2: things positive even when that's negative.
43:29
Speaker 1: So that's good, yes, and that's why I love Amanda
43:32
Speaker 1: for the show. Speaking of Amanda, here is a time
43:35
Speaker 1: where Honey, Andy Cohen is ready to talk to Amanda
43:41
Speaker 1: about what she has going on, and he says, not
43:45
Speaker 1: since Camill Grammar let up an audience, which is a
43:52
Speaker 1: that's a heavy statement to make because I remember the
43:54
Speaker 1: Camill Grammar days.
43:56
Speaker 2: What was what did? What did Camille do that let
43:59
Speaker 2: everyone up so much? What her persona like?
44:01
Speaker 1: Okay, so season one of Beverly Hills, Camille was unapologetically herself.
44:08
Speaker 1: She will brag about having four nannies because she has
44:13
Speaker 1: four kids, and she's like, I need a nanny for
44:15
Speaker 1: each child, and she said it in a way that
44:19
Speaker 1: you were like, oh, okay. But but then she would
44:24
Speaker 1: say because I'm so busy, and then you would cut
44:27
Speaker 1: through her ling by the pool. You're like, ah, we
44:30
Speaker 1: want to get busy doing right and then she would
44:33
Speaker 1: just say certain things that wasn't PC. So Camille Grammar
44:40
Speaker 1: was on the cover of US Weekly magazine with the
44:44
Speaker 1: title the most Hated Housewife.
44:47
Speaker 2: Oh so she So the audience did not like it, Like,
44:49
Speaker 2: they didn't take her.
44:50
Speaker 1: They didn't like her, no, which is why, because she
44:53
Speaker 1: was polarizing.
44:54
Speaker 2: Got it.
44:55
Speaker 1: So when Andy made that reference to Amanda, it's sort
44:59
Speaker 1: of like, well, I want that she took it as
45:02
Speaker 1: a compliment or not. But her eyes did light up
45:05
Speaker 1: and she like feathered her hair. Was like, let's be clear,
45:09
Speaker 1: Amanda loves the moment. You know, she manifested it for her,
45:15
Speaker 1: So she loved it. And this is the part that
45:19
Speaker 1: I'm curious how you're gonna feel because I feel very
45:23
Speaker 1: strongly about this. The ladies have it out for a
45:31
Speaker 1: Manda doing this segment. All the ladies, yes, when they said,
45:38
Speaker 1: we do feel like you emasculate your husband. Yes, the
45:43
Speaker 1: way you talk about bringing the breadwinner, the way you
45:45
Speaker 1: talk about you bought the house. You know, these are
45:48
Speaker 1: things that men don't like. And we're trying to tell
45:50
Speaker 1: you that this isn't a good look and no man's
45:54
Speaker 1: gonna stand up for it. And in my mind. I
45:58
Speaker 1: felt this way. All Amanda has to say is will
46:02
Speaker 1: raise your hand if you're so married? Oh, because apparently
46:09
Speaker 1: it's working for me. And I think this, this is
46:11
Speaker 1: how I feel. But I would love to get your
46:12
Speaker 1: thoughts because you and you and these women besides Amanda,
46:16
Speaker 1: y'all are the same age and come from a different generation.
46:20
Speaker 1: So I wanted to get your thoughts on this.
46:22
Speaker 2: I mean, I am not the same age as them.
46:23
Speaker 2: I am forty nine. I am not sixty. Most of
46:25
Speaker 2: them sixty.
46:27
Speaker 1: The only one who was six sons sixty. Dere no,
46:30
Speaker 1: dere is young.
46:32
Speaker 2: Oh okay, okay, gonna know I'm like, I am not sixty. Okay,
46:37
Speaker 2: you after after what you're looking at.
46:39
Speaker 1: Right now, you think I was, well, babe, you'll be
46:43
Speaker 1: twenty nine next week. Okay. So with that being said,
46:50
Speaker 1: I felt that Amanda. I didn't think Amanda deserved their
46:57
Speaker 1: advice in terms of what a man doesn't appreciate when
47:04
Speaker 1: Amanda this comes from a very different generation, and I
47:10
Speaker 1: think the women of a couch comes from a generation
47:14
Speaker 1: to where yes, you don't talk about your husband that way,
47:19
Speaker 1: especially on camera, even if you are the breadwinner. And
47:24
Speaker 1: when Rachel said I would have never done it. Rachel Zo,
47:28
Speaker 1: I love you, but I gotta keep you honest. I
47:31
Speaker 1: watch all five seasons of the Rachel Zel Project, and
47:36
Speaker 1: Rachel zol you did talk to Roger that way. Rachel,
47:40
Speaker 1: you emasculated Roger and his bangs. Definitely used to talk
47:46
Speaker 1: crazy to your husband. And I'm not gonna say this
47:50
Speaker 1: because it's made come across from me and I'm not
47:52
Speaker 1: trying to be Maybe that's why you guys are having
47:57
Speaker 1: issues today because Rachel was not was not, you know,
48:05
Speaker 1: the kindest to Roger. Well, I took it at y'all
48:10
Speaker 1: worked together, and maybe that's just the dynamic y'all have.
48:14
Speaker 1: But what do you think? Do you think the Ladies
48:16
Speaker 1: Wow was warranted for the advice they gave.
48:19
Speaker 2: Okay, well, first of all, yes, I think they're warranted
48:24
Speaker 2: because this is a show about you're supposed to you're
48:25
Speaker 2: supposed to give advice and feelings and you're supposed to
48:27
Speaker 2: talk things through. So yes, I think it's warranted. Here's
48:30
Speaker 2: the thing I think when like, like my ex husband
48:34
Speaker 2: was the breadwinner and the one that made all the
48:36
Speaker 2: money and I raised the kids. He didn't go around
48:39
Speaker 2: talking about it and bragging about it. He just everyone
48:42
Speaker 2: knew like stays home. She's she's the stay at home mom,
48:45
Speaker 2: and I'm I'm the one that brings in the money.
48:47
Speaker 2: So I just feel like, like I don't really know
48:50
Speaker 2: many men whose wives I know are the stay at
48:52
Speaker 2: home wives that go around boasting about, Oh but I
48:55
Speaker 2: bought the house, not my wife. Oh but I bought
48:58
Speaker 2: the cars, not my wife. Oh but I paid for
49:00
Speaker 2: the kid's school, not my wife. I just don't I
49:02
Speaker 2: bought my bags, not my wife. I don't know that
49:04
Speaker 2: that's just a normal thing. So I think if you
49:06
Speaker 2: look at it and from that kind of perspective, like
49:09
Speaker 2: whether it's male or female, man or woman, I just
49:12
Speaker 2: think it's awkward to be the one that goes I
49:14
Speaker 2: did all this. You know, if you're in a loving relationship,
49:16
Speaker 2: it's teamwork, and it's every it's everything. Everything's everyone's but
49:20
Speaker 2: so and I do think the women came from a
49:23
Speaker 2: place of, especially Erica Jane, a place of your husband's
49:27
Speaker 2: going to resent you at some point. It does get
49:29
Speaker 2: down there in fester and even though he acts like
49:31
Speaker 2: it doesn't, he's trying to play it cool. He wants
49:33
Speaker 2: to look like the you know, the big guy you
49:35
Speaker 2: know there's times people hurt my feelings and I brush
49:39
Speaker 2: it off and say, no, that didn't know. It doesn't
49:40
Speaker 2: bother me at all, But it hurts. Didn't hurt my feelings,
49:42
Speaker 2: But you don't want to make a big deal about it.
49:44
Speaker 2: You know, there's a chance for her husband could be
49:46
Speaker 2: doing that and be like, I don't want to make
49:47
Speaker 2: a big deal about this, you know, because I know
49:50
Speaker 2: that Erica or I know that Amanda is very strong
49:55
Speaker 2: in her career and strong in her belief system that
49:57
Speaker 2: women should rule this world and or be you know,
49:59
Speaker 2: be su We'll not rule the world, but be very
50:01
Speaker 2: successful and manifest what they want. I don't know, So
50:05
Speaker 2: I just think that if if she just would lessen
50:09
Speaker 2: it a little bit, it's fine. I mean, she said
50:10
Speaker 2: one thing like, you know, I'm just really proud of
50:12
Speaker 2: myself because I've actually bought our house, and that's the
50:15
Speaker 2: only thing she said on the whole time about bragging
50:18
Speaker 2: about everything that she does. I think it would it
50:20
Speaker 2: wouldn't be a big deal. I don't think the husband
50:22
Speaker 2: would care at all. But when it's every single time
50:24
Speaker 2: they're sitting down talking, it seems like she's always the
50:27
Speaker 2: one saying that It's like, how many times do the
50:28
Speaker 2: women need to hear that? They know now and so
50:30
Speaker 2: does all of America. I feel bad for the husband,
50:33
Speaker 2: and he seems like a great guy, you know, he.
50:35
Speaker 1: Does no he's mine. But I do like the fact
50:39
Speaker 1: that he did tell her that one comment that bothered
50:42
Speaker 1: her because he said it made it seem like he
50:44
Speaker 1: just pretty much wasn't doing anything right.
50:46
Speaker 2: So that just shows you, Carlos, that just shows you
50:49
Speaker 2: if that one comment he was honest about, there's four
50:51
Speaker 2: more that he didn't say. Oh, just let you know.
50:56
Speaker 2: There's there's more that bothers in that he's just letting.
50:58
Speaker 2: He just mentioned the one hoping he could get her
51:01
Speaker 2: attention and maybe she sh'd stop, But that means there's more.
51:04
Speaker 2: So Erica Jane is right. It's gonna sit in fester
51:06
Speaker 2: in him, and in ten years you don't know what
51:08
Speaker 2: resentment comes out of that, which is not good. That's
51:10
Speaker 2: why I tell John when I first met him, I said,
51:12
Speaker 2: we have to talk everything through, doesn't matter how small
51:14
Speaker 2: it is. If we have a problem one of us
51:17
Speaker 2: doesn't like something, you talk it through right that minute,
51:19
Speaker 2: even if it seems small, because the small thing's not small.
51:21
Speaker 2: In ten years they grow. He's clapping his hands. You
51:28
Speaker 2: can't hear him.
51:28
Speaker 1: But oh, that's good advice. That's okay, that's good.
51:32
Speaker 3: I No, you got me with if he mentioned that
51:40
Speaker 3: one thing that bothered him, oh, trust and believe there
51:43
Speaker 3: was four others before that.
51:45
Speaker 1: Oh well.
51:46
Speaker 2: It's kind of like they say, there's that saying that
51:48
Speaker 2: it says if people one person think, if one person
51:52
Speaker 2: says it, there's seven others that are What is that saying?
51:56
Speaker 2: I can't think of it now, but it's the ratio
51:57
Speaker 2: of one in seven. It's like, if one person thought it,
52:00
Speaker 2: seven others thought it too. I don't know, I can't.
52:03
Speaker 2: I shouldn't have started.
52:04
Speaker 1: That that that actually makes sense. But the other thing
52:10
Speaker 1: with Amanda too is I do feel like when they're
52:13
Speaker 1: saying you lead with the money, you lead with the
52:16
Speaker 1: the the labels you have, And she was like, but
52:21
Speaker 1: I'm on a show with other women who are also
52:24
Speaker 1: rich and they like labels. And I'm like, again, I'm
52:28
Speaker 1: not trying to take the for Amanda all the time.
52:30
Speaker 1: But I unders like Andy said, the fucking set is
52:35
Speaker 1: Dalo Drive. There's a big right here, there's shopping bags here,
52:39
Speaker 1: there's mannequin Donald Royce. Yeah, like, what are we doing here?
52:44
Speaker 1: So and then Erica said, you told me camera guy
52:48
Speaker 1: to get the to get your person. She was like
52:51
Speaker 1: it was a cute perse. And maybe I'm a little
52:54
Speaker 1: bit non affected by or none by it because I
52:58
Speaker 1: am a producer and who did Housewives, so I can
53:03
Speaker 1: tell you this. We were told to show those things,
53:09
Speaker 1: and the women knew they had to show up wearing it.
53:11
Speaker 1: And not only that, the girls would I'll speak for
53:15
Speaker 1: my cast when I did a lantern jersey, those housewives
53:19
Speaker 1: would definitely say, okay, bitch, get my shoes. But I
53:23
Speaker 1: how about the car I got? But Alexis, they were
53:26
Speaker 1: get excited, Carlows, but I got some a good old
53:31
Speaker 1: nasty shoe for you today, And I'm like, oh, I
53:34
Speaker 1: get wait to see it. So I didn't think that
53:37
Speaker 1: was a big deal. Because Jennifer Tilly talks about her
53:39
Speaker 1: forty thousand dollars Gucci bag that broke, I don't know.
53:44
Speaker 1: I thought they would be too hard on her there.
53:45
Speaker 2: I think it's I think they were too hard on
53:47
Speaker 2: her about that only because they also they also don't
53:50
Speaker 2: like her a ton right now because they're thinking she's
53:52
Speaker 2: not letting them, Like Erica said, you're not letting us
53:54
Speaker 2: see your heart. You're only talking about your money and
53:57
Speaker 2: what you can buy and what you do, and you're
53:59
Speaker 2: not talking about like you're not You're not letting us
54:00
Speaker 2: see who you are. So I think that part of
54:04
Speaker 2: it is they they don't want to hear any more
54:06
Speaker 2: about her money. And I think it's also Jennifer Tilly
54:08
Speaker 2: doesn't go around talking about her money all the time.
54:10
Speaker 2: She talked about her forty thousand dollars back because it's
54:13
Speaker 2: lost its nose and its ear and its tongue. So
54:15
Speaker 2: you know, I feel like I feel like it's totally different.
54:20
Speaker 2: I mean, if one of the girls say one thing
54:21
Speaker 2: about an item, no one's gonna care about it. They're
54:23
Speaker 2: going to move on. But it's because of the fact
54:25
Speaker 2: that Amanda keeps reiterating all of it throughout and I'm
54:30
Speaker 2: I'm with you. I mean, you are on a TV
54:32
Speaker 2: show with a lot of rich people, and that is
54:33
Speaker 2: what all these shows are about. You want to see
54:35
Speaker 2: the style, you want to see what they're coming out,
54:36
Speaker 2: and you want to Yeah, you know, it's half the fun.
54:39
Speaker 1: You want to see it, and shit, I want to
54:42
Speaker 1: see it. The moment that Bows you know I love you,
54:52
Speaker 1: and I said before this is your greatest season. I'll
54:56
Speaker 1: all call this or a sophomore's slump. This moment officially
55:03
Speaker 1: was the final nail the coffin of Bows. This is
55:08
Speaker 1: the worst season for you. So amandam Bows are going
55:12
Speaker 1: at it and Bowse decides to tell Amanda because they're
55:17
Speaker 1: talking about the online courses, and Amanda's like, but you
55:21
Speaker 1: told me your courses were losing money, and was like,
55:24
Speaker 1: I would never tell you that. Why would I say
55:26
Speaker 1: that to you. We weren't even close like that, while
55:29
Speaker 1: I tell you my business if that was the case,
55:31
Speaker 1: and it's not the case. I teach at Harvard. I
55:34
Speaker 1: do all the means of Harvard, and it's like, both,
55:37
Speaker 1: I love you, my dog. A diver can get into Harvard.
55:41
Speaker 1: At this point, Harvard is not. And this is no shame.
55:45
Speaker 1: This is no shade Harvard. And I need people to
55:49
Speaker 1: understand this in case they don't know. There is Harvard
55:54
Speaker 1: University where college students are there based on their academia.
56:02
Speaker 1: How then there's Harvard where Harvard has these business courses.
56:09
Speaker 1: Tarvard Banks took these courses. My personal friend in the
56:13
Speaker 1: business went to Harvard, and she was in the same
56:16
Speaker 1: class as Michael straighthand for two days. And you walk
56:21
Speaker 1: away with saying you went to Harvard because Harvard is
56:25
Speaker 1: so prestigious that just blurting the word out and having
56:29
Speaker 1: any association with Harvard means a lot of people. And listen,
56:33
Speaker 1: kudos to you. And I want to say this, it
56:36
Speaker 1: ain't free right when you when you're doing this. So
56:40
Speaker 1: when when bo says she was teaching at Harvard, it
56:44
Speaker 1: was like you were a professor. You were doing things
56:47
Speaker 1: based on what that particular institution has. That makes it
56:52
Speaker 1: more welcoming for other people who are getting in based
56:57
Speaker 1: on their academic record, right right. So when she was
57:02
Speaker 1: talking about that, and then once again she said, I
57:06
Speaker 1: never said it. Oh baby, in the world, how Richard's
57:10
Speaker 1: to Nancy. I mean, Natalie, Natalie, you were forgotten already.
57:16
Speaker 1: No Shade rolled that beautiful bean footage and bows. Alexis
57:26
Speaker 1: Bowles said it verbatim.
57:30
Speaker 2: Yes, I don't make any money on that. She said
57:32
Speaker 2: those words and then, but she never owned up to it.
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Speaker 2: I don't think that they showed her the be roll.
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Speaker 2: I don't think they showed Bose the b roll. No,
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Speaker 2: they didn't so Bo still has no idea until she
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Speaker 2: watches this reunion that she looks like a dumbass on
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Speaker 2: that section, like like she said it, she said it.
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Speaker 1: Wow.
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Speaker 2: I mean, I you know you you have kind of
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Speaker 2: had it out for Bose, like she's irritated you all
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Speaker 2: season because you know, I guess you loved her so
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Speaker 2: much last seas them. But maybe she'll come around next season.
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Speaker 2: Maybe now she's in her she'll be in her junior years.
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Speaker 2: There's something about her that I really like her though.
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Speaker 2: I just love there's even her outfit. I know it's
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Speaker 2: over the top. I know it's crazy. I know people
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Speaker 2: are probably like, Okay, what in the hell she's wearing.
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Speaker 2: I freaking loved it. I thought it was awesome.
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Speaker 1: No, she looked gorgeous. She looks stunning. And for me,
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Speaker 1: now listen, the thing I like about her is listen.
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Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell you exactly the mistake that bowls may
58:28
Speaker 1: and both. If you're listening, feel free to go on
58:30
Speaker 1: my DMS and it'll be fine. The thing with Bows
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Speaker 1: is this Bows last season was a breadth of fresh
58:39
Speaker 1: air because she was in her own element. What happened
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Speaker 1: with Bows was the fact that she survived her first season.
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Speaker 1: Everyone liked her, I think, and they all do it.
58:57
Speaker 1: So Bows's no different than any other realities are. When
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Speaker 1: you're so herald did your first season, you kind of
59:05
Speaker 1: go into your second season filling yourself and you want,
59:09
Speaker 1: especially on Housewives, and you want to make sure that
59:15
Speaker 1: you're a part of the cool girls. Because I don't
59:18
Speaker 1: care what anyone says, there is an element to Beverly
59:21
Speaker 1: Hills Housewives, unlike any housewives, where everybody wants to be
59:25
Speaker 1: a part of the clique, which is why Deree is
59:27
Speaker 1: saying Kyles want to get her army, and I think
59:30
Speaker 1: Bowles felt comfortable knowing that she had she survived her
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Speaker 1: first season and she had these friendships, and Bowles fell
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Speaker 1: into the unfortunate trap of hazing the new girl because
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Speaker 1: it was an easy target. Ah, it was an easy
59:44
Speaker 1: target to get Amanda Yeah. And what Bows didn't, what
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Speaker 1: Bose underestimated, was the audience liking Amanda.
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Speaker 2: Yeah, and both forgot how hard it was to be
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Speaker 2: the new girl that she was once sat in those shoes,
1:00:00
Speaker 2: That's what she quickly forgot.
1:00:01
Speaker 1: Also, yes, yes, yes, that's exactly what happened. So that's
1:00:05
Speaker 1: why for me It's one of those things where I'm
1:00:07
Speaker 1: just like, I think Bowse listen, She's gonna be fine.
1:00:13
Speaker 1: But I think bows Is going to have to realize
1:00:15
Speaker 1: that we fell in love with you because you stood
1:00:18
Speaker 1: on your own. We didn't mind you befriending your your
1:00:22
Speaker 1: you know, to read, because we saw how it made
1:00:25
Speaker 1: sense for you. So we said, okay, fine, but this you,
1:00:30
Speaker 1: you teaming up with the ladies to go against a
1:00:33
Speaker 1: new girl was a bad move. And you're caught lying twice.
1:00:41
Speaker 1: You lied about referencing her with the mask. I did
1:00:45
Speaker 1: say that.
1:00:46
Speaker 2: Oh I forgot about that one.
1:00:50
Speaker 1: Yeah, yes you did. Then my man was like, you
1:00:55
Speaker 1: said you were losing money, and I would why would
1:00:57
Speaker 1: I tell you that? I don't know you. I would
1:00:59
Speaker 1: never tell you that. Yeah, only to say, you know,
1:01:02
Speaker 1: I lost money on my businesses and I'm fine with that. Yeah,
1:01:08
Speaker 1: so will the real bowl stand up? Who is the
1:01:13
Speaker 1: slim shady? And That's how it ended. But I will
1:01:16
Speaker 1: say this, Alexis, you were right because I said, oh gods,
1:01:20
Speaker 1: three parbar unions and maybe filler. But this first part
1:01:24
Speaker 1: was really good.
1:01:26
Speaker 2: Yeah, and see I thought this first part was boring,
1:01:28
Speaker 2: but I watched the Root for the next one, and
1:01:29
Speaker 2: I'm like, oh, it's gonna be good. Now. They had
1:01:31
Speaker 2: to do that little the little beginning of it of
1:01:33
Speaker 2: what they did just now, But the next two are
1:01:35
Speaker 2: going to be so good.
1:01:38
Speaker 1: Yeah. I was into it. I was into it. So
1:01:41
Speaker 1: rain jobs. Let Alexis Jansen and I know what you
1:01:44
Speaker 1: thought about it. Tweet us hashtag and Reality with the
1:01:47
Speaker 1: King and maybe, just maybe you will see Alexis making
1:01:51
Speaker 1: a pie. Yeah.
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Speaker 2: We all right, by guys.
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