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Episode 22: The Lying Game By Ruth Ware Book Review | Illinois Dumb Crimes & Laws | Meeting Shemar Moore! · This Is My Circus

• 0:03
  Welcome to, this is my circus.
• 0:05
  That was much better.
• 0:06
  I needed the cue.
• 0:07
  I needed you to point to me, like throw it back to me.
• 0:10
  Hot potato.
• 0:11
  So what's going on?
• 0:12
  Oh, I missed you guys.
• 0:13
  You inre.
• 0:14
  I know.
• 0:14
  We have not been in person in like a month.
• 0:16
  I know.
• 0:16
  It's crazy.
• 0:17
  It's crazy.
• 0:18
  So not as crazy as you though.
• 0:20
  Well, so I have been doing several job interviews.
• 0:26
  Okay.
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  And just the process is just, Takes forever.
• 0:29
  Yeah.
• 0:29
  Um, so I've got two second interviews today, so I'm excited about that.
• 0:34
  just trying to, you know, continue to build that momentum.
• 0:36
  Yeah.
• 0:36
  But, no helicopter job.
• 0:39
  I got a rejection.
• 0:43
  Do they list a reason like underqualified?
• 0:46
  We've decided with other candidates.
• 0:49
  That's probably a good decision, but you know, at least they like let you know most.
• 0:54
  That.
• 0:55
  So, yeah, yeah, yeah.
• 0:57
  Yeah.
• 0:57
  I got a couple today though.
• 0:58
  I'm excited about it.
• 0:59
  They're remote, they're work from home, so that's, you know, kind of what I really want.
• 1:03
  Yeah.
• 1:03
  Jackson started high school officially.
• 1:05
  Oh my gosh.
• 1:06
  I know, I know.
• 1:07
  So it's, crazy.
• 1:09
  Yeah.
• 1:09
  God, it's crazy.
• 1:11
  But, the traffic at the high school just turning in.
• 1:14
  Yeah.
• 1:15
  It's if people would just do it and people would just go, I dunno the right way to do it, but I know the right way.
• 1:22
  I think you should do it.
• 1:24
  You know, the logical way.
• 1:25
  Right, the common sense.
• 1:27
  Yes, totally.
• 1:29
  So, anyway, it's been good.
• 1:31
  You know, a lot's happened and nothing's happened, if that makes any sense.
• 1:33
  I know, know, like you're always busy, but like there's.
• 1:38
  Um, so we went to the Clover football scrimmage Friday night.
• 1:41
  That was fun.
• 1:42
  We had kids over all weekend.
• 1:43
  That was fun.
• 1:44
  Um, had a going to college party yesterday for somebody, which was really, really smart.
• 1:50
  I'm gonna put this in my back pocket because everybody has like a graduation party, you know, everybody does that.
• 1:55
  So it's like sometimes you have to miss some because you're committed to others and all that.
• 1:59
  So, Wait until the end of the summer and do it then.
• 2:02
  I like that a lot.
• 2:03
  I like that idea too, that because, and that way everybody gets one more time together.
• 2:08
  Um, right before they go.
• 2:09
  Yeah.
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  Go off note to self.
• 2:11
  Um, no graduation party.
• 2:12
  Off the college party, off the college party or off to the workforce or whatever they choose to do.
• 2:16
  Um, um, well on that note, I saw this like years and years and years ago and I saved it on Pinterest, so.
• 2:23
  You know, Dylan was obsessed with Toy.
• 2:25
  Yes.
• 2:25
  Every kid was.
• 2:26
  Yeah.
• 2:26
  But like, they had a whole, like all the toys lined up as, as he's walking out Oh, like a picture of like, yes.
• 2:33
  Yeah.
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  Just their back of, of everybody.
• 2:35
  I know.
• 2:35
  That's crazy.
• 2:36
  I saw somebody actually sent me a picture.
• 2:37
  Oh, go ahead.
• 2:38
  I have Dylan's collection and I've been like slowly adding like the toys that he never got, like the Jesse doll and whatever.
• 2:44
  So I'm, I'm prepared for that to happen.
• 2:47
  Yes.
• 2:48
  Somebody sent me a picture the other day of, you know, how, Buzz and Woody were on the van or car, whatever, trying to get in.
• 2:56
  Like somebody had that rigged up on their car and I was like, oh, that's, I would love to see that in person, but I can totally see that flying off on the highway.
• 3:03
  Oh yeah.
• 3:04
  Hitting somebody's windshield and causing a 14 crash.
• 3:07
  Right.
• 3:07
  And then somebody dies because of Woody and Buzz.
• 3:09
  Wow.
• 3:10
  That just took a laughter Mom brain.
• 3:15
  Right.
• 3:15
  We automatically go to what could happen.
• 3:19
  Dylan's first aid driving to school.
• 3:22
  Yes.
• 3:22
  So how, how was your heart?
• 3:24
  So, well, he picked up Jonas.
• 3:25
  Okay, perfect.
• 3:28
  Last night was like, what time do I have to get up?
• 3:29
  They start school at seven 15.
• 3:31
  Yeah.
• 3:31
  Or they, they have to be there around seven 15.
• 3:33
  school doesn't start till seven 30.
• 3:34
  Mm-hmm.
• 3:35
  I was like, well, you probably have to leave at six 30.
• 3:37
  I said, well, are you riding solo or what's going on?
• 3:40
  Yeah.
• 3:40
  Yeah.
• 3:40
  And he's like, well, me and Jonas, I'm gonna take Jonas.
• 3:42
  So I was like, okay.
• 3:44
  Well, I only want you driving one kid.
• 3:45
  Yeah.
• 3:45
  Like, I don't, yeah.
• 3:46
  They can only have two passengers in the car either way.
• 3:49
  Okay.
• 3:50
  But one kid is perfect though.
• 3:51
  Let them have ox and manage the radio.
• 3:53
  Yeah.
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  Because that's what scares me the most is them get distracted with that kind of stuff.
• 3:57
  Yeah.
• 3:57
  So copilot that does.
• 4:04
  Followed him on Live 360 the whole way.
• 4:06
  Oh, I would've too, because he, and he's driven by himself before.
• 4:09
  Yeah.
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  And like he's been going like Walmart and he's been going, you know what, when we were at the World Championship, he would run out and like, get stuff if we forgot stuff or, you know, run out and whatever.
• 4:17
  So he was helping there.
• 4:19
  Um, he has not driven on a highway yet.
• 4:21
  Like a real highway.
• 4:22
  Yeah.
• 4:22
  So Can't take long trips yet.
• 4:24
  Yeah, because he's not, yeah, he doesn't even wanna try the highway yet.
• 4:27
  Oh my gosh.
• 4:28
  I cannot believe he's driving like that.
• 4:30
  I know, but he's driven back and forth to Rock Hill like a million times preparing for Okay.
• 4:37
  School.
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  That's smart.
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  Like get comfortable with the drive.
• 4:39
  So, yeah.
• 4:42
  But, and he made it.
• 4:42
  Yeah.
• 4:43
  Good.
• 4:44
  And then they get out early, right?
• 4:46
  They do.
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  so they don't have practice.
• 4:48
  They get out at 10 40.
• 4:49
  Okay.
• 4:49
  I don't, I mean, I know it's kind of nice for the high school, and I know the reason that high school.
• 4:54
  Doesn't start till nine.
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  It's calls, busing and, and getting kids to all the multiple schools if you have multiple kids.
• 4:59
  But starting at nine just feels so late.
• 5:01
  Well, so when I was in school, like up in Pennsylvania, I dunno if it was like this year, like way back when we were in school million years ago, but.
• 5:09
  The high schoolers went to school first so that they could watch the younger kids siblings when they get home.
• 5:15
  Yeah.
• 5:15
  So they can get their siblings off the bus and the parents didn't have to worry about like, oh, that makes sense.
• 5:19
  Childcare.
• 5:20
  So when Dylan started school here, like it was so absurd.
• 5:23
  I'm like, oh my God.
• 5:23
  Like yeah.
• 5:24
  They start school at seven o'clock in the morning.
• 5:26
  This is crazy.
• 5:27
  Yeah.
• 5:27
  for, you know, kindergarten.
• 5:29
  So he was super excited to start school.
• 5:31
  Like he was never excited about school.
• 5:33
  Yeah.
• 5:34
  But, um, you know, he's stoked to to new school.
• 5:36
  Yeah.
• 5:37
  And to meet everybody.
• 5:38
  I can't wait to hear how he.
• 5:40
  Like, I know he's been excited about this change, but I can't wait to hear about, how his first week goes.
• 5:45
  Yeah, lacrosse doesn't start till next Monday.
• 5:46
  Okay.
• 5:46
  So that's what he's really looking obviously forward to, so, but yeah, like they get out at 10 40 if it I know.
• 5:52
  I really like that.
• 5:54
  I really like that.
• 5:55
  Yeah.
• 5:55
  And we have looked into sending Jackson to this school, but their football program dis Yeah.
• 6:00
  For him.
• 6:00
  It wasn't Yeah.
• 6:02
  What he wanted, even though he could still play at Clover, it just wasn't worth all the, well then you don't get the benefit of being done with sports and being done with everything by two o'clock.
• 6:10
  Yeah.
• 6:10
  It, it just didn't make sense.
• 6:12
  Yeah.
• 6:12
  So, um, but I think it's a great school, so I'm sure he'll have great Dylan.
• 6:16
  So when he turns 16, he wants to get a job.
• 6:18
  Um mm-hmm.
• 6:19
  Like.
• 6:20
  You can only work 20 hours a week.
• 6:21
  Yeah.
• 6:21
  You know, whatever.
• 6:21
  So he's like, now I can get, still get good hours out at two every day.
• 6:27
  Yeah.
• 6:27
  And not getting home at, you know, 11 o'clock at night.
• 6:30
  Yeah.
• 6:30
  Yeah.
• 6:30
  So, well, we'll see.
• 6:32
  What if he actually gets a job because, He was supposed to get a job this summer and he didn't.
• 6:36
  And he's like, well, like he's gonna get the truck.
• 6:38
  Like we're gonna give him the truck.
• 6:39
  It has, it has to go into the shop to get worked on this week.
• 6:42
  But, after that, that's what he'll be driving.
• 6:44
  So I was like, and he's like, well, you know, so and so.
• 6:46
  I was like, well, so and so also paid for half their car.
• 6:49
  Right?
• 6:49
  We'll max you dollar for dollar.
• 6:51
  But yeah, I mean, yeah, no, I know some of these kids that I see drive and you know, if that's what you give your kid that.
• 7:00
  Started driving me either and seeing some of these kids, like in the parking lots and stuff, especially like school parking lot where it's nothing but kids, that's no Jackson's getting like an old 1980.
• 7:12
  Something.
• 7:13
  Dude, I just saw it on the Facebook marketplace and I was like, oh my God, I want it, it was like the OG Bronco, like the 1989.
• 7:20
  Like really?
• 7:20
  OG Bronco.
• 7:21
  Was it white?
• 7:21
  Like It was, it was, um, but it was like 17,000 or whatever.
• 7:27
  It had less than hundred thousand miles on it.
• 7:29
  Yeah.
• 7:29
  And I was like, dude, I, I'm like, oh, he's like, That.
• 7:32
  He's like, that's fire mom.
• 7:33
  That's fire.
• 7:34
  That's fire.
• 7:34
  That, that's fire was like, okay.
• 7:36
  That's funny.
• 7:37
  That's funny.
• 7:37
  Yeah.
• 7:38
  Jackson and his friends lately, I've been catching them, say, you messing with that?
• 7:42
  Are you messing with that?
• 7:43
  And I'm like, yeah, all this new lingo.
• 7:46
  You guys just speak your words, Uhhuh.
• 7:48
  Yeah.
• 7:50
  Um, what?
• 7:51
  Oh, I don't know.
• 7:52
  How was the, how was the corn championship?
• 7:54
  I never made it.
• 7:55
  I'm sorry.
• 8:00
  Really, I'm still recovering because like the, it's never been nine days long before.
• 8:05
  Okay.
• 8:05
  Um, this year they made it nine days and so I wasn't home for nine days.
• 8:09
  I mean, like I was home to sleep, but like, that was really weird.
• 8:11
  But that's exhausting because I know like when I do work things that are like over a weekend, like some kind of a user group, it's emotionally because I'm not.
• 8:19
  Always people.
• 8:20
  And that's exhausting.
• 8:22
  Yeah, the last day I was like, I told Brandon, I told everybody that was like, you, like I'm done peopling today.
• 8:27
  Yes.
• 8:27
  I have nothing left in me.
• 8:28
  Yeah.
• 8:29
  Just so if you're gonna come near me, this is your warning.
• 8:32
  This is your warning.
• 8:33
  I'm not in the mood of people.
• 8:34
  No.
• 8:35
  Um, nine days is a long time.
• 8:37
  It was, but it was awesome.
• 8:38
  Um, good.
• 8:38
  You know, we met a lot of awesome people.
• 8:41
  We saw our team.
• 8:42
  Yeah.
• 8:42
  It was really, really good.
• 8:45
  And I met Shamar Moore.
• 8:49
  I just got chills, girl.
• 8:51
  I didn't want a fan girl, like, right.
• 8:53
  And so my, my friend Tori, had already met him Uhhuh, and so she's like, girl Shamar is right there.
• 8:59
  so our, Booth was diagonal.
• 9:01
  Okay.
• 9:01
  And so he was in the line for the beer booth.
• 9:03
  Okay.
• 9:03
  And she's like, oh, he's right there.
• 9:05
  Go say, I was like, I'm good.
• 9:06
  Like I, I don't want everybody's going up to him.
• 9:09
  It's annoying at some point, you know?
• 9:11
  And she's like, uhm, hold on.
• 9:13
  And so she goes, she's like, Hey, I'm girl.
• 9:14
  One more time for you, but can you go over and meet my girl Stephanie?
• 9:18
  Because she's like in the booth and she can't go over there.
• 9:27
  Gimme some love, and I was, oh.
• 9:31
  What kind of love are you wanting?
• 9:33
  I mean, do we need to leave?
• 9:36
  Uh, proposal?
• 9:38
  I do.
• 9:39
  I do.
• 9:40
  So he gave me a big hug and like, you know, he's like, you wanna get the picture?
• 9:43
  And I'm like, heck yeah.
• 9:45
  And that's when I texted you.
• 9:46
  So this, yes, you should have jumped on him like a spider monkey girl.
• 9:51
  Everybody was, but he was like the coolest.
• 9:54
  Like, I was like, your baby is so cute because you know, it's all on Instagram.
• 9:57
  And he's like, oh my gosh.
• 9:59
  Oh, she's six months old.
• 9:59
  Like, I can't believe she's six months old.
• 10:01
  We should start talking about kids.
• 10:02
  Yeah.
• 10:03
  Typical, right?
• 10:03
  Yeah.
• 10:04
  So he was so nice.
• 10:05
  Um, he was also in this, what they call the super hole, which is like the celebrity cornhole match.
• 10:10
  Ooh.
• 10:11
  He plays cornhole though, like on the regular, like he is like, has like a whole freaking, they have, call it Airmail City, his backyard, and it's all cornhole.
• 10:18
  Set up for Cornhall.
• 10:19
  Wow.
• 10:20
  He has all the pros over that live in, like, did he invite you over?
• 10:22
  No, gosh.
• 10:24
  But we might be gonna the California event in like two weeks and like he holds like a big party there for like all two weeks.
• 10:30
  And I'm like, take me, do you need me to go with your assistant?
• 10:35
  I have, my schedule is wide open right now.
• 10:39
  So that was really, really cool.
• 10:41
  So he was, he was like, Up in the stands during the, the super and like, you know, taking pic selfies with people and like, I'm so glad, and like you said, I know that's gotta be annoying, but to have people like that, that are just okay and chill.
• 10:56
  Yeah, yeah.
• 10:56
  No, he was like, probably like the nicest I could have ever expected.
• 11:02
  I mean, like, yeah.
• 11:03
  So it was cool to see that it was cool to, um, you know, and he put on a show, you know.
• 11:08
  Yeah.
• 11:10
  Kind of like that we've seen with matte, like he's, he, he does.
• 11:21
  Well, that is very exciting.
• 11:22
  You need to put the picture on our Facebook page.
• 11:24
  Yes, I episode, um, I.
• 11:34
  Yeah.
• 11:35
  Did it take you a minute for like your adrenaline to down?
• 11:38
  No, I was like right away, like he walked away.
• 11:40
  I was like, my phone picture, like, oh my, so my, and it was a cute picture.
• 11:47
  Yeah, I know.
• 11:48
  I was like, would be offended if you got like a 16 by 20.
• 11:52
  Well, so I, I said, Don't worry, baby girl.
• 11:58
  Yeah, something like that.
• 11:59
  Something like that, yeah.
• 12:00
  And so every time Brandon was a jerk, I would just be like, do play it.
• 12:05
  That's smart.
• 12:06
  That's so funny.
• 12:07
  Um, but yeah, so he, uh, was awesome.
• 12:09
  Um, the Super Bowl though, so Dylan, you know, we had, um, we bought like a whole row of seats, uh, for the event.
• 12:15
  And um, because it did sell out, there was like standing room only for that event.
• 12:19
  He asked who was gonna be there.
• 12:21
  Yeah.
• 12:21
  So he, um, we went through, he knew the sports guys, not that I did.
• 12:26
  Um, and yeah, he was from Vikings.
• 12:31
  You were purple.
• 12:32
  Yeah.
• 12:32
  Oh, there was a basketball person there.
• 12:34
  Okay.
• 12:34
  And, um, do you remember Keenan and, yeah.
• 12:40
  Dylan that was, um, Kel was there and Dylan only knows him from Good, good, good Burger.
• 12:46
  Yeah.
• 12:47
  So, uh, we, we turned to Brandon and, and was like, dude that's from Kel.
• 12:52
  He was like, I, who that is, like how do that is?
• 12:55
  And um, I'm Good Burger like movie.
• 12:59
  And he was like, I, I don't know.
• 13:00
  I've never seen it.
• 13:01
  So we all turned and we're like, welcome to good work.
• 13:04
  Yeah.
• 13:06
  So it was, it was good.
• 13:08
  Um, but he didn't stay for pictures.
• 13:09
  He didn't say bummer.
• 13:10
  So, um, Dylan didn't get to, you know, meet him, him or whatever, but, um, you know, he was excited about all the, you know, it was just a cool vibe.
• 13:18
  Like it was like, you know, like the music and the flashing lights and like, they would made it, it was almost like Harlem Globetrotters.
• 13:24
  Yeah.
• 13:24
  You know, that kind of thing.
• 13:25
  Yeah.
• 13:25
  Oh.
• 13:26
  But they really wanna win.
• 13:27
  Yeah.
• 13:28
  Um, and then they, they batch up with pros.
• 13:30
  Um, so the pros get, I don't think that the, the, the star people get anything.
• 13:35
  I don't know, maybe they split it.
• 13:36
  I don't dunno if they do, but the, um, pros get cash prize.
• 13:39
  Yeah.
• 13:40
  Okay.
• 13:40
  For winning.
• 13:41
  So, um, it was really cool.
• 13:42
  Yeah.
• 13:43
  Good.
• 13:43
  So I'm, I'm done though.
• 13:44
  I'm, I'm done.
• 13:45
  And trying to recover.
• 13:47
  Yeah.
• 13:47
  It's gonna take a minute.
• 13:48
  Yeah.
• 13:48
  Yeah.
• 13:49
  Um, but now our, um, yeah, like now it's negotiation season, trying to decide.
• 13:56
  We wanna keep, if you know, we wanna try to get other people sponsorships.
• 14:01
  It's, this is like our, and then I'm sure you're working on your fall stuff too.
• 14:03
  Yeah, yeah.
• 14:04
  All the new bag colors, all the new pictures.
• 14:06
  It's just, oh my goodness.
• 14:07
  So yeah.
• 14:08
  My life is just back to little crazy right now.
• 14:11
  Back to, yeah.
• 14:12
  Crazy.
• 14:13
  Yeah.
• 14:13
  So, well, with your craziness, did you get a chance to read a book?
• 14:17
  I did so well, I mean, I've had like three weeks, so.
• 14:19
  Well, I mean, but you have been like unbelievably crazy.
• 14:22
  So it was The Lying Game by Ruth Ware.
• 14:24
  Yes.
• 14:25
  So I haven't read books by her before, which I haven't loved.
• 14:28
  Okay.
• 14:29
  Um, this one, I mean, I liked it.
• 14:30
  Mm-hmm.
• 14:31
  I, I, it was, it was good.
• 14:32
  It just wasn't my favorite book by her.
• 14:34
  Okay.
• 14:34
  Um, I think, like, I had different expectations Okay.
• 14:37
  Um, for it, but let me pull up the little blurb.
• 14:40
  So this is Ruth Ware, the Lang game on the cool June morning.
• 14:43
  A woman walking her dog in the I Coastal Village of Salton, along the Reach.
• 14:48
  Perfect.
• 14:51
  Funky words before she can stop him.
• 14:56
  The dog charges into the water to retrieve what first appears to be a wayward stick, but to her horror turns out to be something much more sinister.
• 15:03
  The next morning, three women in and around London, Fatima, Thea, and Isa, received the text they had always hoped, would never come from the fourth, and they're formally inseparable, Kate, that only says I need you.
• 15:15
  Mm-hmm.
• 15:16
  The four girls were best friends, assaulted in the secondary boarding schools set near the cliff of the English channel, each different in their own way.
• 15:22
  The four become inseparable and were notorious for playing the lion game.
• 15:25
  Telling lies that every turn to.
• 15:28
  Fellow and faculty, but their little game had consequences and as the four converge in present day, and they realized their shared past was not as buried as they had once hoped.
• 15:40
  Okay.
• 15:42
  So I think like, so.
• 15:45
  It goes back and forth, um, from present day to like when they were in school.
• 15:49
  Yes.
• 15:50
  Yes.
• 15:50
  And one I can never imagine being sent away to a boarding school.
• 15:53
  Wow.
• 15:53
  And like these girls weren't, like, sent away, like for good reasons they were sent away because they were naughty in the, in the way.
• 16:00
  Yeah.
• 16:01
  Um, So there's that like, you know, like they all had like feelings of like abandonment.
• 16:07
  Mm-hmm.
• 16:07
  They all had all these, so like they, you know, were Yep.
• 16:09
  This kind of, at first I thought like they were like the popular girls.
• 16:13
  Um, but I really think that they were like the misfits of the school.
• 16:15
  Uhhuh, I got that vibe too.
• 16:17
  Like that outcast, they Yeah.
• 16:18
  The people that, yeah.
• 16:20
  Yeah.
• 16:20
  So I, that I guess threw me first because I thought this was gonna be like a mean girl thing.
• 16:26
  Mm-hmm.
• 16:27
  Which I mean, kind of, sort of was, but not really.
• 16:29
  Yeah.
• 16:29
  Um, so.
• 16:31
  Um, I had thought the dad was gonna be like, super creep.
• 16:36
  Yeah.
• 16:36
  But I don't really think he was a super creep.
• 16:38
  I think he was just like a hippie type of vibe.
• 16:41
  Yes.
• 16:41
  He just had a different perspective on a lot of things.
• 16:44
  Yeah.
• 16:44
  So therefore he, no, and I don't even know if the things that he did were questionable.
• 16:49
  Like you can use your imagination with some of the, you know, experiences or whatever, but, I don't what I'm trying to say.
• 16:55
  Does that make sense?
• 16:56
  Yeah.
• 16:56
  No.
• 16:57
  I had mixed feeling reading.
• 17:02
  Um, I don't know.
• 17:03
  Yeah.
• 17:03
  What was your take?
• 17:04
  Well, same thing.
• 17:05
  So with the, with the dad being very involved in the kids' lives and, um, and the girls, and that's the thing.
• 17:12
  There were girls.
• 17:13
  Yeah.
• 17:13
  So that's, I think what was so iffy.
• 17:16
  You were saying before we got jacked up?
• 17:19
  Um, that the character development?
• 17:22
  Yeah, Luke.
• 17:23
  So like initially when we started this book, you know, you start trying to think, okay, he did it, she did it, whatever.
• 17:30
  And you have these thoughts and then you're like, oh, nevermind.
• 17:33
  It's not him, and then it is him and it's not him.
• 17:35
  And it did so.
• 17:36
  I enjoyed that back and forth with some of these characters.
• 17:38
  Um, Luke took a left for me.
• 17:42
  Um, he was a troubled boy, quote, um, that that was in this book.
• 17:49
  So he, he just had a fascinating story.
• 17:54
  Yeah.
• 17:55
  I didn't see the No.
• 17:59
  At all.
• 17:59
  Like that totally was a good twist for me.
• 18:01
  Yeah.
• 18:01
  I'm trying not to do spoilers.
• 18:03
  Me too.
• 18:04
  Yeah.
• 18:04
  But yeah, it was, it was a welcome twist.
• 18:07
  Yeah.
• 18:07
  Um, and I really thought that, um, ISA and Luke had a much more.
• 18:15
  Intimate relationship when they were young is like what I thought it was gonna turn into.
• 18:19
  Yeah.
• 18:19
  But you know, like there was, there were so many like unexpected, right.
• 18:22
  Um, I guess, right.
• 18:25
  I wanna say outcomes.
• 18:26
  Well, no, but even with like, um, ISA and her Huss or her baby daddy.
• 18:30
  Yeah.
• 18:30
  Like that dynamic.
• 18:32
  I did think it was, it was, fascinating.
• 18:34
  I'm trying to say that instead of interesting because I say interesting all the time, the way that these women, so they went to school together and they met back up however many years later we said, but they came back, of course, with adults, with adult problems.
• 18:45
  Yes.
• 18:46
  And the things that they were doing to cope with some of the things in their past.
• 18:52
  Mm-hmm.
• 18:52
  Um, Which should have, I felt like, jumped out at me.
• 18:56
  Like, oh, they've all are doing, you know, this, this, and this and this.
• 18:59
  Yeah.
• 18:59
  And did it, you, did you grab it until they, until they like, laid it out for me.
• 19:03
  Like, this one is struggling with alcoholism or whatever.
• 19:06
  Yeah.
• 19:07
  Um, it, it just, it it was developed really well.
• 19:10
  Yeah.
• 19:11
  Um, so I liked it.
• 19:13
  I thought it was good.
• 19:14
  I it was probably like a seven outta 10.
• 19:15
  Yeah.
• 19:16
  Yeah.
• 19:16
  Um, but uh, definitely I would, it was worth the read.
• 19:19
  Yeah.
• 19:20
  I think, um, and like I said, it mean unexpected ending.
• 19:22
  Yes.
• 19:22
  Um, which I like.
• 19:24
  Yeah.
• 19:24
  Um, a lot of different pieces for me that were.
• 19:27
  But out of the norm.
• 19:29
  Um, so they were fun to read.
• 19:31
  Yeah.
• 19:31
  Because it's not, we have been so.
• 19:39
  Seduces or whatever.
• 19:41
  So, um, so it was good.
• 19:45
  Yeah.
• 19:45
  I mean, like you said, I enjoyed it about an eight.
• 19:47
  I, yeah, I would and I think I would, I don't think I've read her before.
• 19:50
  Um, so I think I would, I know I would read her again.
• 19:52
  Yeah.
• 19:52
  She was different.
• 19:53
  I've read probably a good handful and that's why this was on my list.
• 19:56
  I've read I think two or three, three of her other books.
• 19:59
  Yeah.
• 19:59
  And they've all been wonderful.
• 20:01
  Yeah.
• 20:01
  And maybe like, I just had a different expectation because I've read.
• 20:04
  Um, but I mean, again, it was a good book.
• 20:06
  Um, it just wasn't my favorite of hers.
• 20:09
  Yeah, I get it.
• 20:10
  I get it.
• 20:10
  Definitely would recommend that.
• 20:11
  Did we, we didn't give any trigger warnings in that one.
• 20:14
  No.
• 20:15
  I don't think there are anything to be triggered.
• 20:18
  I, and there was like a, a mention of child abuse Yeah.
• 20:21
  Um, with one of the backstories.
• 20:23
  Yeah.
• 20:24
  So that would be the only, that's the only thing.
• 20:26
  Yeah, you're right.
• 20:27
  You're right.
• 20:27
  So, yeah.
• 20:28
  Yeah.
• 20:30
  Um, but it was good.
• 20:31
  So next we have hidden pictures.
• 20:33
  I just started it today.
• 20:34
  I've already finished it.
• 20:35
  Is it good?
• 20:36
  I like this.
• 20:37
  Okay.
• 20:37
  Um, hidden Pictures by Jason Uhhuh.
• 20:41
  Um, yeah.
• 20:42
  Okay.
• 20:43
  I liked it.
• 20:43
  So that'll be good.
• 20:44
  And we are coming to the end of our, um, book list.
• 20:48
  Mm-hmm.
• 20:49
  We have this one and then three more.
• 20:52
  Oh.
• 20:53
  And so, um, we definitely need some book recommendations to continue to add to what's next.
• 20:58
  So please send those, we want all of those so we can add those to the list we're building.
• 21:03
  Yep.
• 21:04
  Um, yeah, there's actually some good ones.
• 21:08
  Okay.
• 21:09
  Well, yeah, so, um, definitely we love doing this.
• 21:12
  We love doing the reviews.
• 21:13
  Yes.
• 21:14
  Um, try spoilers.
• 21:21
  You're trying to get people to guess something, but you can't say these words.
• 21:23
  Yeah, that's what I feel like we're doing So find Illinois some and some, um, So I wanna start, if you don't mind.
• 21:37
  No, go ahead with my dumb criminal.
• 21:39
  Okay.
• 21:40
  Okay.
• 21:41
  So no, I love a dumb criminal.
• 21:42
  Yes, yes.
• 21:44
  And since we've missed a couple weeks, this one's a doozy.
• 21:46
  Okay.
• 21:46
  And we did Illinois Uhhuh.
• 21:48
  Okay.
• 21:48
  So I'll start.
• 21:50
  So the year was 2009 and things were a lot different back then.
• 21:53
  Um, TikTok wasn't embedded and people believe that Limp Biz was a great rock band.
• 21:57
  I love Limp Biz does too.
• 22:01
  Yeah.
• 22:01
  How could he not?
• 22:02
  Yeah.
• 22:03
  How can he not?
• 22:04
  Plus these from, from right up here in Gus.
• 22:06
  Did you know that?
• 22:07
  No.
• 22:07
  Oh, he went to Hunter Hus.
• 22:08
  Shut up.
• 22:09
  I'm pretty sure.
• 22:10
  Yeah.
• 22:11
  Okay, so part one, this has three parts.
• 22:13
  Okay.
• 22:14
  Part one, bill was inside of a woman's car trying to hot wire it to get outta there.
• 22:18
  The woman approached him and said, what are you doing?
• 22:20
  The woman told Billy, well, it's my car.
• 22:22
  The cops are coming.
• 22:23
  So Billy ran towards an expressway, leaping a fence, and taken off.
• 22:27
  Cops had a description, what he was wearing, and one key thing, he had a giant growth hanging from his left ear.
• 22:33
  Part 2.
• 22:35
  Bill walks into the local police station.
• 22:38
  Yes.
• 22:38
  The guy trying to steal a woman's car went to the cops.
• 22:41
  He said he was in the lobby and he was asking people for money.
• 22:45
  He needed a bus ticket to Bloomington.
• 22:47
  Billy thought he had this all figured out.
• 22:49
  He changed his clothes.
• 22:50
  There's no way he was getting busted with a different, still has the.
• 22:55
  Significant growth on his ear.
• 22:57
  The police chief happened to look into the lobby, noticed the guy with this giant growth hanging from his ear.
• 23:02
  It can't be.
• 23:03
  So the chief invited him into his office, complete with the suitcase, with the old outfit Billy was wearing when he tried to steal the car.
• 23:10
  He goes into the cop's office.
• 23:12
  He was arrested and sentenced for being stupid like I, I.
• 23:20
  Okay.
• 23:21
  So we gotta add this to our like dumb criminal hand guide.
• 23:24
  Okay.
• 23:25
  If you have significant growths Okay.
• 23:28
  Don't commit crimes.
• 23:30
  Yes.
• 23:30
  Okay.
• 23:32
  Um, all right, so this was back in thousand 15 talking about going to extremes to try to get away with a crime in 2015 Gordon.
• 23:40
  Uh, this person's last name is Gordon.
• 23:41
  Okay.
• 23:42
  Worked at a bowling alley and decided to rob it, but she wanted she, mm-hmm.
• 23:46
  A female.
• 23:46
  Mm-hmm.
• 23:47
  Mm-hmm.
• 23:47
  She wanted to make it look like she had prevented the robbery and was assaulted, so she took a bowling ball and hid herself in the head twice.
• 23:55
  But Gordon's crazy actions were definitely caught on surveillance.
• 23:59
  Oh my gosh.
• 24:00
  How, how?
• 24:02
  Not once, but you hit yourself twice with a bone in the head.
• 24:07
  How?
• 24:08
  Oh my gosh.
• 24:09
  Yeah.
• 24:10
  Not like a little, like I scraped my face up or something.
• 24:14
  So, you know what that reminds me of though is do you remember the Lulu, is it Lulu women?
• 24:18
  Mm-hmm.
• 24:19
  Um, like the athletic wear.
• 24:20
  Yeah, the murder in the store.
• 24:22
  Oh yeah.
• 24:22
  Where the girl assaulted herself.
• 24:24
  Yeah.
• 24:25
  And tied herself up.
• 24:26
  Yeah.
• 24:27
  To make it look like that there was somebody else that did it.
• 24:29
  Yeah.
• 24:29
  Yeah.
• 24:29
  So that's what that totally reminded me of.
• 24:31
  Hey, speaking of, we're both true crime people.
• 24:34
  Yeah.
• 24:35
  What's the most fascinating true crime, like unsolved solved?
• 24:39
  Did that matter?
• 24:39
  Like what?
• 24:41
  What is your quote?
• 24:42
  Favorite.
• 24:43
  Oh my.
• 24:43
  Or what?
• 24:44
  Are just like seriously fascinated by, oh God, that's a hard one.
• 24:48
  Can next I'll, we'll, next well did dumb.
• 24:55
  I did.
• 24:56
  Um, I'm looking for right now.
• 24:58
  Okay.
• 24:59
  While you look in illegal, make faces.
• 25:05
  Oh my gosh.
• 25:06
  Like what can sit, like, what's a face?
• 25:09
  Like a smiling, a face?
• 25:10
  Is it like sticking your tongue out?
• 25:12
  Like, I do that to Rex.
• 25:16
  Oh yeah.
• 25:17
  24 hours a day.
• 25:18
  Oh yeah.
• 25:18
  I would be in jail.
• 25:19
  Oh yeah.
• 25:20
  it's illegal to give a pet a cigar.
• 25:22
  I, there's a.
• 25:26
  It's illegal to give whiskey to dogs and I a hundred percent stand behind that.
• 25:30
  Yeah, let's not do that.
• 25:31
  Mo my old dog that died, um mm-hmm.
• 25:34
  He used to go by like, we would have parties and he would go by and like over a beer can and then do it.
• 25:41
  I swear to God.
• 25:42
  That is so funny.
• 25:44
  That is so funny.
• 25:46
  That is funny.
• 25:47
  Um, it's illegal to take a French poodle to the opera.
• 25:50
  And I could see like this totally happening and it happens to make this a law like Yeah, Gerald, like the dog's name was like, something like that.
• 25:57
  Yeah.
• 25:59
  Um, it's illegal to eat in a burning building.
• 26:01
  So do not take your marshmallows into a burning building to make your smores.
• 26:05
  Yes.
• 26:06
  Um, it's illegal for a man with a mustache to kiss a woman.
• 26:09
  And I kind of agree with that.
• 26:10
  What if it's, yeah.
• 26:12
  What if it's a woman with a mustache?
• 26:15
  You better get, you wax.
• 26:16
  It just, it's his man though.
• 26:17
  It doesn't say woman.
• 26:18
  It doesn't.
• 26:18
  So woman with a mustache can kiss, can kiss anybody.
• 26:21
  A man or a woman.
• 26:22
  Yes.
• 26:22
  Whatever you, yeah.
• 26:24
  In Chicago it's illegals to go fishing in your pajamas.
• 26:27
  Kids these days would have a tough time with that.
• 26:29
  Dylan would?
• 26:30
  Yeah.
• 26:31
  He wears his pajama pants all winter long and summer.
• 26:34
  Yeah, like Jackson still Dylan's like shorts also.
• 26:37
  Yeah, he's shorts.
• 26:38
  Most of winter.
• 26:39
  Yeah.
• 26:39
  But days he doesn't wear shorts he's wearing, but he wear pants in the house.
• 26:43
  Like Jackson, when he gets outta shower, he puts on pants, doesn't the um, it's to mispronounce.
• 26:50
  Well, now I'm not gonna say it'cause I'm gonna say it wrong.
• 26:53
  Joliet.
• 26:54
  As Joliet.
• 26:55
  Oh, well I guess they got sick of people mispronouncing.
• 26:59
  Yeah.
• 26:59
  Um, in Kenworth, a rooster must stand back 300 feet from a residence if it wishes to crow, because in Illinois, animals can be sent to jail.
• 27:10
  The first instance was a monkey was served five days in Chicago jail for shoplifting.
• 27:15
  Those monkeys.
• 27:16
  I could totally see that.
• 27:18
  They're crazy.
• 27:19
  Those monkeys are crazy.
• 27:20
  Do you think that the owner trains them to do that?
• 27:23
  To do that?
• 27:23
  Oh yeah.
• 27:24
  Of I'm sure.
• 27:25
  Course monkey in Monkey Jail, you know, you go, are they in like the gen pop?
• 27:30
  Probably solitary.
• 27:32
  Mm-hmm.
• 27:36
  Um, it's illegal to spit on the sidewalk in Ottawa.
• 27:39
  I agree with that.
• 27:40
  Oh, totally.
• 27:41
  I hate it.
• 27:41
  Yeah.
• 27:42
  Yeah.
• 27:42
  Um, I think that was all mine as well.
• 27:44
  Yeah.
• 27:45
  So, yeah, I, which was your funniest?
• 27:47
  Like what do you think was like the worst?
• 27:49
  The funny, I like that monkey one.
• 27:53
  That pretty, I mean, poor monkey.
• 27:57
  I could totally did go to, did he take the stand, kind, make.
• 28:15
  I just hope I didn't wake Brandon up.
• 28:17
  I know he's been working really hard.
• 28:18
  He's on the other side of the house.
• 28:19
  Okay.
• 28:19
  Oh my gosh, that was good.
• 28:20
  Okay.
• 28:21
  Um, um, oh, and I wanted to say that I found a book called The Stupid Crook book that is nothing but dumb crooks and it is by Leland Gregory.
• 28:31
  I thought that was funny.
• 28:32
  Did you read it again?
• 28:33
  No, I just found it last night.
• 28:35
  Um, so this was Illinois.
• 28:37
  What do you wanna do next time?
• 28:39
  Um, Minnesota.
• 28:41
  Minnesota.
• 28:43
  I like your accent.
• 28:46
  Cool.
• 28:47
  so yeah, that was, that was a hard episode to get through because of all of our technical malfunctions.
• 28:55
  And, I mean, looking at this right here, you would never know it.
• 28:58
  We're here guys.
• 28:59
  Hello.
• 29:00
  I think this is perfect.
• 29:01
  I.
• 29:06
  What's that show with, um, oh yeah, with, with the neighbor You Can Only Wilson.
• 29:15
  It's, it's, it's lovely outside backdrop.
• 29:19
  You have a beautiful backyard into the pool.
• 29:26
  Was yesterday, the day before.
• 29:27
  Um, and he had an AirPod in Oh no.
• 29:30
  And they're like waterproof up to his room.
• 29:31
  Are they?
• 29:32
  Oh, okay.
• 29:32
  But it fell outta his ear and like he could, didn't know if it fell out like before he jumped in or after, so we were like looking, did you find it?
• 29:39
  I did find it.
• 29:39
  Well, he like said, you know, he ran inside to get whatever, and I was like, it's right there.
• 29:44
  How did you miss it?
• 29:45
  It's easier to when you're outside.
• 29:54
  Yeah.
• 29:54
  House.
• 29:54
  And so now I'm missing one.
• 29:56
  And I feel like he probably picked up one of mine.
• 29:59
  I think so.
• 30:00
  And because I was, have you seen my, he's like, no, but I the time.
• 30:04
  That's what kind I was getting at.
• 30:06
  Yeah.
• 30:07
  Pick up one of looking for yours.
• 30:12
  So, well, that was, um, I thought that this was fun even with all the.
• 30:18
  Yeah.
• 30:18
  It's okay.
• 30:19
  It's okay.
• 30:19
  It's life.
• 30:20
  It, it's our circus.
• 30:21
  It's our circus.
• 30:22
  We made it work.
• 30:23
  Made it work.
• 30:24
  Alright, well, um, next week we'll do m You do it Minnesota.
• 30:28
  Minnesota, yes.
• 30:30
  And our book is, um, the Jason Hidden Pictures.
• 30:34
  Yes, yes.
• 30:35
  Yeah.
• 30:35
  Totally blank on his name.
• 30:36
  But it's, it's, it's a weird last name.
• 30:38
  Hidden Pictures.
• 30:38
  Jason R.
• 30:41
  Alright, well thank you guys for listening.
• 30:42
  Leave us a review.
• 30:43
  Yes.
• 30:43
  we are still at the same amount of reviews, so you people are Slack.
• 30:47
  Slack guys.
• 30:48
  I mean, even though we've Slack the past couple weeks with, um, giving you new content Oh, oh, oh.
• 30:52
  And, and the new book, for, nicole comes out next week.
• 30:55
  Yes.
• 30:56
  Rocker Comeback comes out August 22nd.
• 30:58
  Yep.
• 30:58
  Um, so I have it on pre-order.
• 30:59
  I'm excited.
• 31:00
  Yay.
• 31:01
  I do think I'm gonna sign up for her monthly group, Where they meet, you know, once week or whatever, some tools.
• 31:07
  So, um, I.
• 31:12
  Yeah.
• 31:13
  Manifesting and stuff.
• 31:13
  So I think it'd be cool.
• 31:15
  I'm gonna, I think try it out.
• 31:16
  awesome.
• 31:17
  And we shall see.
• 31:18
  Good.
• 31:19
  Okay.
• 31:19
  Cool.
• 31:19
  Please leave us a review, and subscribe Yep.
• 31:22
  To the show so that you get alerts when we come on and, follow us on social.
• 31:27
  Yep.
• 31:28
  That's it.
• 31:29
  Oh, and, and I'll post that picture.
• 31:30
  Yes.
• 31:32
  Thank you guys.
• 31:33
  Thank you.
• 31:33
  Have a good week.
• 31:35
  Bye.