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The Rita Panahi Show | 4 March · The Rita Panahi Show

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Speaker 1: On scorn littles Australia.
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Speaker 2: This is the Wada Panalkey Show.
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Speaker 1: Good evening and welcome to the Rita Panekey Show. I'm
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Speaker 1: Danika di Giorgio coming up tonight, and your report finds
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Speaker 1: social cohesion has crumbled under the Albanesi government. Are we surprised?
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Speaker 1: I'll get into that with my panel. Iran's regime Alexa
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Speaker 1: new leader as the IDF launches a wave of strikes
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Speaker 1: across Iran. Peter Jennings will break down the latest developments.
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Speaker 1: The US and UK have fallen out spectacularly over Iran
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Speaker 1: after Donald Trump absolutely demolished Prime Minister Kiir Starmer Josh
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Speaker 1: Hammer is coming up another day, another blow for Australia's
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Speaker 1: renewables only experiment, with another green company cutting part of
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Speaker 1: its workforce. I and Climber will weigh in and of
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Speaker 1: course left he's losing it. Imagine the Left's reaction to
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Speaker 1: this bagger.
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Speaker 3: Aetla Haamine's dead.
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Speaker 1: But first tonight, the Isis bride saga has taken another turn.
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Speaker 1: There are reports that new South Wales prison guards are
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Speaker 1: being trained to watch over the Isis brides via a
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Speaker 1: specialized course called Women in Violent extremism. According to sources
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Speaker 1: who have spoken to the Australian training teaching teachers guards
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Speaker 1: how to work with Category five prisoners, that is, female
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Speaker 1: inmates who are deemed a special risk to national security,
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Speaker 1: such as those involved in or inciting terrorism related activities.
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Speaker 1: One Nation leader Senator Pauline Hansen says New South Wales
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Speaker 1: prison guards have contacted her out of concern for public
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Speaker 1: safety and their own welfare. For more on this, let's
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Speaker 1: bring in News Corps senior writer Patrick Carlyon and Institute
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Speaker 1: of Public Affairs Research fellow Colleen Harken. Good to see
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Speaker 1: you both again. Thanks for joining me. Patrick. So you know,
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Speaker 1: now these brides become possibly the issue of prison bosses
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Speaker 1: who then have to babysit them. I just think this
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Speaker 1: saga gets worse and worse. What do you make at
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Speaker 1: the developments?
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Speaker 4: Well, look, this latest news sort of suggests that they're
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Speaker 4: definitely coming back, doesn't it Now. I think paul Enhanson
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Speaker 4: got it right. Some people might call Pauline devices, but
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Speaker 4: I think one hundred percent of Australians think that these
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Speaker 4: people should not be allowed to come back, and there's
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Speaker 4: been a very shadowy sort of process they're allowed to
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Speaker 4: renew their passports, they started coming back. It's unclear really
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Speaker 4: how much government involvement has been put into bringing them back.
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Speaker 4: And the point is none of us want them back.
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Speaker 4: They're dangerous and the fact that they're going to be
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Speaker 4: you know, it looks after in prisons. Who's paying for that?
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Speaker 4: I mean, I think we are all very united on
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Speaker 4: this issue.
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Speaker 1: Look, Absolu's a good point. Who's going to pay for it? Exactly?
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Speaker 1: And Colleen, I just think that this goes to show
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Speaker 1: no government department seems to know how to handle these brides,
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Speaker 1: and yet by all accounts, they're likely to come back.
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Speaker 1: But the problem here, and it stems from the heart
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Speaker 1: of this issue, is that they should not even be
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Speaker 1: allowed back here in the first place. Well, that's right.
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Speaker 5: I mean, these people left knowing full well where they
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Speaker 5: were going. It was actually illegal at the time for
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Speaker 5: them to leave. They've gone to assist in isis Islamic
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Speaker 5: regime scenario. Nobody wants them back. Our government is hell
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Speaker 5: bent on shutting down free speech. If you have an opinion,
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Speaker 5: that's going to be criminalized, and yet we're helping these
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Speaker 5: people come back into a place where it is endagering
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Speaker 5: national security, UK, for example, has been able to handle
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Speaker 5: this by stripping iss brides of their citizenship. I don't
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Speaker 5: understand why Australia is not taking those measures as well.
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Speaker 5: They've been able to do it under the basis that
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Speaker 5: they have parental heritage of other countries and or about
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Speaker 5: national security. Our government's not even looking at these things.
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Speaker 1: No. I mean, of course, because our boy's got a
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Speaker 1: panda to you to his base. Is he's doing it
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Speaker 1: all for votes as he has been for the last
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Speaker 1: two years now, speaking of we knew this and our
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Speaker 1: research has confirmed that social cohesion is crumbling under the
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Speaker 1: Albanese government. Who would have thought. A report by the
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Speaker 1: Australian Strategic Policy Institute says Australia is at a point
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Speaker 1: of national reckoning after more than two years of increasingly
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Speaker 1: radical protests, some of which, of course have featured the
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Speaker 1: flags of terror groups. There's been chance of where are
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Speaker 1: the Jews from the River to the Sea globalizing into
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Speaker 1: FATA two and more recently tributes to the dead Iranian
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Speaker 1: dictator Ayatola Hamani Patrick, what do you make of the report?
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Speaker 6: Look?
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Speaker 4: I think the report now? Is it? Danika? This has
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Speaker 4: been ongoing since October twenty twenty three. And the problem
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Speaker 4: is that these extreme sort of symbols have been allowed
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Speaker 4: to flourish here in Australia. They haven't been condemned as
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Speaker 4: they should have been. And I think the report makes
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Speaker 4: a very good point in saying, you know, there should
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Speaker 4: be joint statements from the major parties to condemn sort
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Speaker 4: of actual incidents of extremism, to make the point, this
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Speaker 4: is not our Australia, this is not who we are.
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Speaker 4: We will not tolerate this. So I think the report
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Speaker 4: is very timely and very welcome.
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Speaker 1: I couldn't agree more. And Colleen, you know what on
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Speaker 1: earth has labor done to try and unite the country
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Speaker 1: in these two and a half years since October seven.
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Speaker 5: Well, it's not only just about immigration and mass immigration.
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Speaker 5: Freedom comes with responsibility and cohesion comes from an agreed
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Speaker 5: adherence and loyalty to our rule of law, our democracy
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Speaker 5: and our values. And that hasn't been what's been promoted
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Speaker 5: for quite some time, not just in the last couple
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Speaker 5: of years. If we look at, for example, the Bondi scenario,
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Speaker 5: the alleged government was born here and went through our
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Speaker 5: education system, and part of our education system is actually
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Speaker 5: teaching kids to be ashamed of our country, and they're
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Speaker 5: deliberately undermining our social cohesion, teaching the kids to be
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Speaker 5: a global citizen, not a nationally proud citizen of Australia.
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Speaker 5: We have third party providers who give content to schools
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Speaker 5: that teach the kids to sit for the national anthem.
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Speaker 5: We have teachers in schools, we're in kafirs. It's not
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Speaker 5: just at this sort of adult level that this social cohesion,
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Speaker 5: the lack of social cohesion.
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Speaker 1: Is an issue. It's in our schools as well. Yeah,
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Speaker 1: and it's sad that the next generation have basically been
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Speaker 1: brainwashed into this sort of ideology. I think it's really
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Speaker 1: really concerning now. Look, the war in Iran has happened
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Speaker 1: at just the right time for the Treasurer Jim Chalmers,
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Speaker 1: who's been under increased scrutiny in recent weeks amid surging
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Speaker 1: inflation and worsening living standards. Economist Judah Sloan has warned
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Speaker 1: in the Australian Today to get ready for Jim's flood
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Speaker 1: of global uncertainty excuses, writing that we will be asked
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Speaker 1: to forget about the economic difficulties that had been apparent
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Speaker 1: and concentrate on the economic consequences of global developments in
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Speaker 1: the Middle East. Well, you know, Patrick, we know he
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Speaker 1: loves to blame the Ukraine War has been at the
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Speaker 1: top of his list for years, then global heads and
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Speaker 1: what do you think Iran's just perfect now?
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Speaker 4: Really, I think we're still blaming COVID down here in
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Speaker 4: Victoria for a two hundred billion dollar death. Judith is
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Speaker 4: quite right, and I mean there are these underlying issues,
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Speaker 4: as you pointed out, the high inflation, the statement living standards,
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Speaker 4: the budget deficits that we're being forecast. This is all
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Speaker 4: pre existing what's happened in Iran in the past few days.
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Speaker 4: But I'm sure as weeks go by this continues, it
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Speaker 4: will be because of Iran. Iran will be blamed for
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Speaker 4: every economic problem that we have. And there is history
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Speaker 4: on this going back on both sides of the political fence.
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Speaker 1: Yeah. Absolutely. And then by the time that the budget
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Speaker 1: gets handed down, Colleen, you know they'll make and break
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Speaker 1: their promises and say, oh, well, we had to change
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Speaker 1: course because Iran happened. It's all too predictable.
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Speaker 5: I think Dr Chalmers can't believe his luck. But I'd
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Speaker 5: like to think that the Australian people are not that stupid.
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Speaker 5: We have for a couple of years the pressure on
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Speaker 5: the cost of living. We've felt the consequences of the
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Speaker 5: overspend of government and the inflation. You know, we've sat
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Speaker 5: here feeling it and experiencing it. So I don't think
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Speaker 5: anybody's really going to copy it. That just in the
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Speaker 5: last couple of days has made all the difference. You know,
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Speaker 5: our woes don't belong in the Middle East. Our woes
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Speaker 5: actually have started and begun in Canberra.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, they absolutely have from the top down for sure.
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Speaker 1: Let's talk about what's going on in both your state
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Speaker 1: right now, Victorian Premier just into Allen's in a world
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Speaker 1: of pain. A new poll by fresh Water Strategy has
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Speaker 1: found that seventy four percent of voters want the state
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Speaker 1: Labor government to be properly investigated, potentially through a Royal commission,
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Speaker 1: regarding criminal infiltration and the corruption of the CFMAU and Victoria.
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Speaker 1: According to that poll, fifty three percent of voters also
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Speaker 1: say the allegations and Labour's weak response would influence their
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Speaker 1: vote come the election in November. You know, Patrick, the
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Speaker 1: fact the Premier keeps, you know, fobbing this off as
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Speaker 1: no Biggie is breathtaking. What are the fallbacks? What are
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Speaker 1: the consequences?
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Speaker 4: Look, you're talking about fifteen billion dollars, Danika, which since
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Speaker 4: Alan argues about she says it's less, but she doesn't
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Speaker 4: want to find out how much it actually is. She
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Speaker 4: doesn't want to find out who was involved, who is
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Speaker 4: to blame, and what we can do to make sure
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Speaker 4: that this doesn't happen again. And at best, I mean
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Speaker 4: I would call that dishonest, just the way she's gone
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Speaker 4: about it. But at best it's disingenuous. And I'm really
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Speaker 4: pleased to see that the electorate has cotton on it
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Speaker 4: is and said this is nonsense. We need to know.
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Speaker 4: And if c Cintra Allen loses the election, there will
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Speaker 4: be a royal commission and it will have much wider
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Speaker 4: terms of reference than the one that she should call now,
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Speaker 4: So she might want to reconsider that the politics of
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Speaker 4: actually doing nothing, because it's not working for her government
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Speaker 4: at all.
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Speaker 1: No, clearly, and it's not just some CFMU. Of course,
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Speaker 1: it's crime. There's so many problems going on there, Colleen.
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Speaker 1: But you know, to Patrick's point, it's good to s
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Speaker 1: the electric responding, what do you make of the polling. Well,
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Speaker 1: I think.
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Speaker 5: It's a great opportunity for the coalition and for Jess
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Speaker 5: Wilson in particular, because the average person looks at this
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Speaker 5: and says, it's fifteen billion dollars of our money that
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Speaker 5: we want to know where it's gone. And the big
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Speaker 5: question is why, why wouldn't you investigate that? Why did
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Speaker 5: she trying to hide it?
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Speaker 1: Push it back?
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Speaker 5: It's a simple question to say, this money's gone somewhere,
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Speaker 5: Where is it uncovered? We want the transparency. So I
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Speaker 5: think it's a great opportunity for the opposition. They should
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Speaker 5: be pushing it harder and longer so that it becomes
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Speaker 5: a real issue at the time of the election campaign
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Speaker 5: rather than just sort of a bubble that goes away.
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Speaker 1: Yeah. Absolutely, And now look before you both go, we've
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Speaker 1: got to talk about this Kyle and Jackie O saga.
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Speaker 1: Isn't it fascinating? Who would have thought? Former co host
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Speaker 1: of the Kyle and JACKIEO Show on KSFM, Jackie O Henderson,
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Speaker 1: She's addressed her bombshell exit from the decades long part
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Speaker 1: a ship that she had with Kyle Sandalans after he
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Speaker 1: mocked her on air. Now she's told reporters today that
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Speaker 1: she is quote feeling good and that she's healing, but
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Speaker 1: could not comment on whether that she would actually return
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Speaker 1: to the airwaves. Patrick, I thought they're on air blow
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Speaker 1: up was a stunt initially when I first taught it Sawa.
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Speaker 1: But wow, I mean, they're so highly paid as it is,
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Speaker 1: and they just couldn't reconcile.
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Speaker 4: It's amazing, isn't it. It's the biggest media breakup of
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Speaker 4: all time. That's two hundred million dollars they were being paid,
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Speaker 4: reportedly over ten years, and you sort of think for
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Speaker 4: that sort of money, you'd probably try and work it out.
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Speaker 4: And a lot of insiders were saying it was a stunt,
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Speaker 4: or perhaps it was a stunt. Plainly it wasn't, And
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Speaker 4: plainly it's going to cost Kyle potentially tens of millions
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Speaker 4: of dollars because he sort of basically got to show
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Speaker 4: why he has not been sort of guilty of serious misconduct.
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Speaker 4: So the way this will play out over the coming
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Speaker 4: weeks and months is absolutely fascinating.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, And I just wonder, Colleen, if the only people
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Speaker 1: who are going to benefit from this are now the lawyers.
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Speaker 5: Well, I'm pleased to tell you Danika. I've never listened
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Speaker 5: to an episode of their radio show, but I have
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Speaker 5: read articles from time to time, and I have to say,
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Speaker 5: I think that Jackie O, whatever her name is, has
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Speaker 5: got a bit of a glass jaw, because my understanding
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Speaker 5: of this show is that for years they have denigrated
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Speaker 5: other people and bullied other people, and you know, it's
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Speaker 5: been pretty unpleasant behavior on their part until it has
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Speaker 5: come to her. And now that she's sort of been
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Speaker 5: ridiculed or teased or whatever you want to call it,
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Speaker 5: she's called it and said, you.
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Speaker 1: Know, I've had enough.
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Speaker 5: But this has been their behavior as far as I
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Speaker 5: understand about other people, for a very long time, and
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Speaker 5: they've made a lot of money out of it. So
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Speaker 5: I don't have a lot of sympathy for either of them.
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Speaker 1: No, And I mean, if you're going to dish out,
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Speaker 1: you've got to be prepared to take it, you know,
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Speaker 1: to be able to take it. That's just the way
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Speaker 1: it is. I agree. Fascinating though, I look forward to
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Speaker 1: seeing how it plays out. Patrick Carlin and Colin Harken,
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Speaker 1: good to see you both again, Thanks for joining me. Well,
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Speaker 1: the IDF has begun launching, what it says, our broad
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Speaker 1: wave of strikes targeting various military sites and infrastructure across Iran.
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Speaker 1: At the same time, Iranian opposition media is reporting a
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Speaker 1: new Supreme Leader has been elected to replace Ayatola Ali
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Speaker 1: Hamene moch Taba Hamone has been selected to replace his father.
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Speaker 1: Joining me now is adjunct fellow at the Institute for
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Speaker 1: Public Affairs and former Deputy Secretary for Strategy with the
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Speaker 1: Australian Government Defense Department. Peter Jennings, Peter, appreciate your time
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Speaker 1: as always, thank you. Is the regime desperately trying to
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Speaker 1: resurrect itself here? Does it have any success in doing
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Speaker 1: so even as the IDF ramps up its attacks.
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Speaker 7: Well, it's certainly desperate days for them. And in Muaitaba,
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Speaker 7: I think they've found a very lesser figure to become
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Speaker 7: the Supreme leader. No theological credentials whatsoever that was used
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Speaker 7: to be regarded as critical for the job. And his
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Speaker 7: real claim to fame is that he's been the leader
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Speaker 7: of a group called the Bassage, which is the thugs
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Speaker 7: on motorbikes that go around suppressing crowds in Tehran and
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Speaker 7: other cities. So if people want a Nazi analogy, this
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Speaker 7: is the Ernst Room character, the guy who's in charge
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Speaker 7: of the secret police thugs. He is not a person
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Speaker 7: that's going to be able to negotiate with the Americans
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Speaker 7: or anybody else. I think it does reflect very desperate
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Speaker 7: days as far as the regime is concerned, the authoritarian
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Speaker 7: regime is concerned. But I guess there are plenty of
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Speaker 7: others that can fill that role if Mutaiba finds him
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Speaker 7: self dead in the next few days, and so the
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Speaker 7: Americans and the Israelis will just kind of keep working
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Speaker 7: through the order of the leaders that they have to
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Speaker 7: deal with.
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Speaker 1: It does sound like they are getting desperate. How big
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Speaker 1: is a threat of proxies Now we've seen, you know, Hesbala,
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Speaker 1: the Hooti. What happens here and would that be of
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Speaker 1: concern to the United States.
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Speaker 7: Well, we can't dismiss the threat that they're there. They
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Speaker 7: in isolated cases, have the capacity to launch missiles or drones.
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Speaker 7: The Hooties in particular, I think, have got some reasonably
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Speaker 7: sophisticated defense equipment, but they're much reduced. They've lost their
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Speaker 7: command structures. They're clearly not going to be getting direction
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Speaker 7: or support from the Iranian regime any longer. So I
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Speaker 7: think they have declining strength. They can still do damage.
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Speaker 7: But I don't think this presents a strategic threat anymore
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Speaker 7: to Israel or to the American military presence through the
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Speaker 7: Middle East.
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Speaker 1: Now, look, Donald Trump has said that he launched this
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Speaker 1: Operation Epic Theory against Iran because he was convinced that
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Speaker 1: the Islamic regime was going to attack first. Here's what
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Speaker 1: he said overnight.
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Speaker 3: No, I might have forced their hand. You see, we
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Speaker 3: were having negotiations with these lunatics, and it was my
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Speaker 3: opinion that they were going to attack first. They were
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Speaker 3: going to attack if we didn't do it. They were
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Speaker 3: going to attack first. I felt strongly about that. And
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Speaker 3: we have great negotiators, great people, people that do this
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Speaker 3: very successfully and have done it all their lives, very successful,
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Speaker 3: and based on the way the negotiation was going, I
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Speaker 3: think they were going to attack first.
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Speaker 1: Has he got a case there, Peter, that had he
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Speaker 1: not moved, Iran would have first.
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Speaker 6: Well.
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Speaker 7: I think the context is that Iran has been at
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Speaker 7: war with Israel and the United States, and I'm going
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Speaker 7: to say even Australia. Let's not forget those terrorist acts
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Speaker 7: that Iran commissioned in Australia in late twenty twenty four.
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Speaker 7: Iran has been at war with the Democratic West for years,
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Speaker 7: and Trump's concern in particular was, well, what happens if
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Speaker 7: it gets to a point that they can reprocess that
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Speaker 7: uranium to turn it into and all of a sudden
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Speaker 7: they've got Nicklear bombs with missiles capable of carrying them.
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Speaker 7: I don't know if Iran was close to an attack
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Speaker 7: forty eight hours ago seventy two hours ago, but certainly
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Speaker 7: the broader context is they've been in a fight for
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Speaker 7: a very long time, and I don't think any American
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Speaker 7: president could really take the risk of finding an Iran
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Speaker 7: all of a sudden equipped with nuclear weapons. So this
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Speaker 7: has been something that the last three or four American
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Speaker 7: presidents have struggled with, but only Donald Trump has had
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Speaker 7: the courage to take it to a military operation to
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Speaker 7: stop Iran from acquiring those weapons of mass destruction. And
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Speaker 7: so I think he made a necessary call based on
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Speaker 7: a piece of tactical information, which was the gathering of
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Speaker 7: the Supreme Leader commenty with forty of his closest friends,
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Speaker 7: and that was reason enough to start the attack at
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Speaker 7: the time they did. Perhaps the American plan would have
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Speaker 7: been for forty eight hours later who can say, But
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Speaker 7: you know, broadly, I think America was acting essentially in
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Speaker 7: self defense, understanding that Iran was a threat, and Iran
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Speaker 7: was determined to acquire in nuclear weapons, and you put
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Speaker 7: those things together and that becomes a threat which America
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Speaker 7: just could not tolerate.
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Speaker 1: No, there's a threat to the West as well to
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Speaker 1: the whole world. Absolutely. Now, Iran has vowed to widen
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Speaker 1: its retaliatory strikes. It's threatened to cripple Middle East economic
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Speaker 1: centers if the US and Israel did not relent. Iranian
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Speaker 1: drones have already struck the US consulate in Dubai and
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Speaker 1: earlier the US embassies in Saudi Arabia and Kuwait. How
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Speaker 1: do you see this now playing out in terms of
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Speaker 1: any retaliation. I mean, Trump is already very firmed, firmly
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Speaker 1: warned Iran not to Surely the US and Israel have
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Speaker 1: the upper hand here.
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Speaker 7: Yes, I think they do, and I think the nature
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Speaker 7: of the Iranian retaliation has actually been very limited. They
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Speaker 7: seem to have.
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Speaker 8: Now.
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Speaker 7: That is, the US in Israel just largely destroyed Iran's
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Speaker 7: capacity to launch faster, more damaging missiles. What they're left
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Speaker 7: with is slower, smaller drones, which certainly are dangerous things,
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Speaker 7: but they're not going to destroy embassies for example. And
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Speaker 7: you know, largely now the Americans have sunk the Iranian Navy,
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Speaker 7: so Iran's ability to close the oil trade through the
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Speaker 7: Straits of Whimers I think is extremely constrained. That's not
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Speaker 7: to say, Jeneka that they mightn't be able to get
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Speaker 7: one fast small boat onto close to a tanker and
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Speaker 7: do some damage, but their ability to shut the region
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Speaker 7: down I think has now been pretty much destroyed by
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Speaker 7: the first few days of the American and Israeli attack.
19:54
Speaker 7: And what's going to go now is a sort of
19:56
Speaker 7: a comprehensive process of the Americans and Israeli's step through
20:00
Speaker 7: the Iranian order of battle to make sure that their
20:03
Speaker 7: capacity to do more damage is progressively further limited. I
20:09
Speaker 7: would be very surprised if Run at this point is
20:11
Speaker 7: going to be able to map massive attacks, maybe one offs,
20:16
Speaker 7: but not things that are going to cripple the oil
20:20
Speaker 7: flow through the straitsil for Moose.
20:21
Speaker 6: For example.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, and I mean maybe Donald Trump that is right
20:24
Speaker 1: when he says, you know, I've got the upper hand
20:26
Speaker 1: on them on them right now, especially as they seem
20:29
Speaker 1: to be so much more weakened and diminished. Peter Jennings,
20:32
Speaker 1: We've got to leave it there. Great to have you
20:33
Speaker 1: on as always Fear Analysis. Thank you for joining me.
20:37
Speaker 1: Still to come left, He's losing it. Plus Donald Trump
20:40
Speaker 1: demolishes UK Prime Minister Kiir Starmer over Iran. I'll play
20:44
Speaker 1: you his comments and get Josh Hammer's reaction next. Now
20:58
Speaker 1: it is time for lefties losing it and I have
21:00
Speaker 1: to start on a positive note. Have a listen to
21:02
Speaker 1: this Iranian woman absolutely giving it to the deluded Democrats.
21:07
Speaker 9: Crats are brainwashed. I don't understand how you guys can
21:11
Speaker 9: support the killing of forty thousand people over the past
21:14
Speaker 9: three weeks. But yet when Trump bombs your on this
21:17
Speaker 9: is what they were asking for. They were asking to
21:19
Speaker 9: be bombed so that the government can go away. Now
21:23
Speaker 9: you guys are upset that like an elementary school of
21:25
Speaker 9: children was killed, Well, what about all the forty thousand
21:28
Speaker 9: people that were killed before. This doesn't make any sense.
21:31
Speaker 9: You guys are fake humanitarians.
21:34
Speaker 1: I may perfectly said, She's not wrong, is she? Because
21:37
Speaker 1: the Democrats and the left have absolutely lost their marbles
21:42
Speaker 1: over the Iranian strikes, even though this was a murderous
21:45
Speaker 1: regime and one with its finger on the nuclear trigger.
21:48
Speaker 1: And this is what freedom looks like. Have a look
21:50
Speaker 1: at the Iranian women's national football team who refused to
21:54
Speaker 1: sing the national anthem of the Islamic regime at the
21:56
Speaker 1: Asian Cup. This is courage, this is bravery, and the
22:22
Speaker 1: hope for freedom is now in song and swam.
22:26
Speaker 3: Supreme Leader Atla Harmine is dead, dead dead dead dead
22:34
Speaker 3: dead dead.
22:38
Speaker 1: Atla Harmine is dead.
22:49
Speaker 3: All harmony, he's dead.
22:57
Speaker 1: Play that at nightclubs, absolutely love it. And look from
23:02
Speaker 1: that banger to now, well, this flapping chicken. You take
23:08
Speaker 1: out the Supreme Leader. It doesn't matter what I think
23:10
Speaker 1: of Iran.
23:11
Speaker 10: It's not to be Iranian people, it's not not to
23:14
Speaker 10: the United States and the European Union.
23:17
Speaker 1: And everybody had to tell a sovereign conte how they
23:20
Speaker 1: should run that contet, and they were not checking anybody. Seriously,
23:23
Speaker 1: shut up, you hysterical imbecile. I mean, the left are
23:27
Speaker 1: seriously so dumb, deranged and delusional. They weren't threatening anybody.
23:32
Speaker 1: She says, well, how about you take yourself to downtown
23:35
Speaker 1: Tehran and find out and thank god this woman put
23:38
Speaker 1: her in her place, you know, what you're doing. We're running.
23:42
Speaker 1: I don't know what they are doing exactly. Now back
23:47
Speaker 1: to the Democrats, they are tying themselves in knots of hypocrisy.
23:51
Speaker 1: After these commentsary surfaced of Nancy Pelosi where she defended
23:55
Speaker 1: the then Obama administration's decision to strike Libya without the
23:59
Speaker 1: congres rational authorization that she believes Donald Trump should have
24:03
Speaker 1: got before he struck Iran.
24:05
Speaker 4: I'm saying that the president did not need authorization initially
24:10
Speaker 4: and still does not need any.
24:12
Speaker 2: Authorization from Congress.
24:14
Speaker 1: One Libya, yes, and now have a listen to House
24:18
Speaker 1: Minority Leader. How came Jeffrey's word salad? When he was
24:22
Speaker 1: asked about this on Fox News.
24:25
Speaker 9: Back in twenty eleven, Nancy Pelosi said that then President
24:28
Speaker 9: Obama didn't need congressional approval to bamba Libya.
24:31
Speaker 7: Now how Democrats say President Trump needs that approval to
24:34
Speaker 7: obamba rn. What's the difference?
24:36
Speaker 2: Well, obviously Libya and the circumstances connected to that were
24:40
Speaker 2: very different than the circumstance that we face in Iran
24:43
Speaker 2: right now. I mean, I don't even understand the genesis
24:45
Speaker 2: or basis of that question. I suggest that you're not
24:47
Speaker 2: asking it in good faith Libya when not actually seen months,
24:50
Speaker 2: as I've indicated, first of all, was not in Congress
24:55
Speaker 2: at the time, So we're dealing with what we're dealing
24:57
Speaker 2: with right now, which is a cintash endless war.
25:02
Speaker 1: I mean, he can't even pretend to plead ignorant when
25:05
Speaker 1: he really and truly is as thick as two planks
25:08
Speaker 1: of wood. I Meanwhile, Nancy Pelosi has released a statement
25:11
Speaker 1: saying she stands by Obama's decision not to seek congressional
25:15
Speaker 1: approval on Libya. She says there is an absolute distinction
25:18
Speaker 1: between the limited military operations in Libya and the broad
25:22
Speaker 1: escalating war with Iran initiated by President Trump. I mean,
25:27
Speaker 1: she's grappling as usual, grappling at straws, and is a
25:30
Speaker 1: complete and utter embarrassment. And now it's time for derangement
25:34
Speaker 1: gone mad. Why is it always the white liberal women
25:38
Speaker 1: that are number one in the lunatic asylum ranks?
25:42
Speaker 9: And literally, if you have any part to play in
25:45
Speaker 9: the American military industrial complex.
25:49
Speaker 1: Literally you, I hope you never make it home. I'm
25:55
Speaker 1: so serious. So hang on a minute. She actually says,
25:59
Speaker 1: heroic you s troops who put their lives on the
26:02
Speaker 1: line for the country should never make it home. I mean,
26:06
Speaker 1: these lefties do not actually value lives. But of course
26:09
Speaker 1: they will tell you they are the most loving and
26:12
Speaker 1: tolerant of them all. And we'll even use force when necessary,
26:16
Speaker 1: as this guy found out. Why don't you leave America?
26:20
Speaker 11: Why don't you leave?
26:22
Speaker 1: You hate this imperialist country. Why don't you leave?
26:26
Speaker 12: When Iranian women were written and murdered by their government,
26:30
Speaker 12: none of you said.
26:31
Speaker 1: You're fake activist? Why don't you sneak.
26:34
Speaker 12: About the fifty thousand Iranian.
26:36
Speaker 13: Some recute and I want to call out the fact
26:39
Speaker 13: that you pretend, Oh, don't touch me.
26:42
Speaker 12: Meanwhile, you're presenting me.
26:48
Speaker 6: And I'm going to go, that's okay. You can't imprison me,
26:53
Speaker 6: you fucking fake terrorist cosplaying children.
26:58
Speaker 1: I mean, they're absolutely crazy, aren't they. And let's be honest,
27:02
Speaker 1: none of those cosplaying children would even have jobs. They
27:06
Speaker 1: just hoped from one protest to another so that they
27:08
Speaker 1: can feel so much better about themselves. And speaking of
27:12
Speaker 1: white liberals, never underestimate their stupidity.
27:16
Speaker 10: Saudi Arabia said to Trump on Sunday. On Sunday, sorry,
27:22
Speaker 10: a few days ago, No way, you're not going to
27:25
Speaker 10: use our military biass. Saudi Arabia is now against UE.
27:30
Speaker 10: So it's Saudi Arabia guitar and Jordan, I think, and
27:34
Speaker 10: Turkey and Egypt. I'm confused of all, but there's the
27:39
Speaker 10: Saudi Arabia Jordan Quitar said, America, if you want to bomb.
27:44
Speaker 1: Me Ryan, you're not going to use our VSS. That's
27:46
Speaker 1: it finished, finished. Yep, she's got no idea, no idea,
27:51
Speaker 1: has she And guess what we're actually confused by you
27:53
Speaker 1: two love And speaking of confusion, CNN's Abby Phillip just
27:57
Speaker 1: got demolished on her own show.
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Speaker 14: If bomb's dropping on the nuclear program and destroying them
28:06
Speaker 14: last year didn't help move forward those objectives of deterring
28:11
Speaker 14: the regime, why do we think that suddenly this is
28:14
Speaker 14: going to do the same.
28:15
Speaker 1: Thing because the people who weren't deterred are now dead.
28:19
Speaker 1: I don't know how Scott Jenny's does it. I don't know.
28:20
Speaker 1: I give the guy a middle for bravery for even
28:23
Speaker 1: taking pot. Now, can someone plays do a welfare check
28:26
Speaker 1: on Nick Fuentes.
28:29
Speaker 12: Just look at Trump and you're filled with disgust. You
28:33
Speaker 12: look at him, He's a totally diminished figure watching him
28:38
Speaker 12: on Friday declare this war in his sad little hat,
28:43
Speaker 12: no tie with a black curtain. He's eighty years old.
28:47
Speaker 12: He doesn't even care. You look at Trump and it's like,
28:51
Speaker 12: I don't know you. I don't know who you are.
28:54
Speaker 12: I don't know what you are. You are demonic, You
28:58
Speaker 12: are a demonic force.
29:00
Speaker 1: And your hands are demonic. I mean, the guy is
29:03
Speaker 1: seriously unhinged. He claims there that Trump is a diminished figure.
29:08
Speaker 1: The President just took out the leader of a murderous
29:10
Speaker 1: regime in a daylight operation. That does not scream diminish
29:15
Speaker 1: to me. It screams boss. And now here's Jasmine Crockett
29:19
Speaker 1: with her latest crock.
29:21
Speaker 15: Of you know what, let me tell you something. I
29:24
Speaker 15: am here because this is truly life or death. We
29:27
Speaker 15: have an administration that is not only killing people, but
29:30
Speaker 15: it is a dream killer.
29:32
Speaker 1: Right now, and to crazy Kamala Harris, who's back on
29:36
Speaker 1: the wines, back on the gin and tonic, back on
29:38
Speaker 1: the words salads, and back backing up illegal immigrants.
29:43
Speaker 8: Minneapolis, just look at what we've been seeing. It's so fantastic.
29:47
Speaker 8: People coming out with their whistles, their saff and videotaping
29:53
Speaker 8: and you know, with perfect strangers and in aiding perfect strangers.
29:59
Speaker 1: It's been so.
30:00
Speaker 14: Beautiful to see.
30:01
Speaker 8: And again this is what I mean about we have
30:05
Speaker 8: the late inside of us.
30:06
Speaker 1: Well, the US and UK have fallen out spectacularly over
30:10
Speaker 1: Iran after Donald Trump absolutely demolished Pm Kiir Starmer. Have
30:14
Speaker 1: a look at this.
30:15
Speaker 3: This is not Winston Churchill that.
30:18
Speaker 11: We're dealing with.
30:20
Speaker 1: I meanwhile, Kirstarma has released this week and woke ad
30:24
Speaker 1: on Iran talking to European leaders.
30:28
Speaker 4: Ahde Friedrich really could to hear from you.
30:31
Speaker 11: I think we are all concerned about what could happen
30:34
Speaker 11: within the next couple of original dates.
30:36
Speaker 1: We weren't involved, as we've made clear in the strikes. Oh, Emmanuel,
30:42
Speaker 1: Emmanuel and Friedrich. I mean please joining me now? Is
30:45
Speaker 1: Newsweek Senior editor at large Josh Hammer. Josh, good to
30:48
Speaker 1: see you as always, Thanks for joining me. What is
30:50
Speaker 1: it with the UK leader's obsession suddenly with saying, oh, no,
30:53
Speaker 1: we're not involved in the strikes. It's like, of course
30:56
Speaker 1: you weren't. You're a spineless fool. I mean, he is
30:59
Speaker 1: no Churchill.
31:02
Speaker 16: No, I think that's probably the understatement of the century. Frankly,
31:05
Speaker 16: I here Stammer. Currently his approval rating if you look
31:09
Speaker 16: at the polls during in the UK, he's somewhere between
31:11
Speaker 16: forty and fifty points underwater. That's not exaggeration. He is
31:15
Speaker 16: at this point in his prime minister tenure, the least
31:19
Speaker 16: popular prime minister in the history of modern British political polling.
31:24
Speaker 16: It's utterly catastrophic and Labor is going to get absolutely
31:27
Speaker 16: walloped whenever the next election, whether it's scheduled or snap election,
31:30
Speaker 16: ends up and ends up happening. Query who will benefit
31:34
Speaker 16: the most? Personally, I would place my own wager on
31:36
Speaker 16: Nigel Farage and reform UK there. But no, the UK
31:40
Speaker 16: has been in declining power for a very very long time.
31:43
Speaker 16: By the way. That makes me upset. I'm actually an
31:45
Speaker 16: Anglo file myself. I'm an American obviously, but I think
31:47
Speaker 16: that I think that the Western world, the civilized world
31:50
Speaker 16: in general, owes a huge debt of gratitude to the
31:53
Speaker 16: British for all that they gave us. For centuries and
31:55
Speaker 16: centuries of the English common law and various modern conceptions
31:58
Speaker 16: of individual liberty and justice and equal protection. A lot
32:01
Speaker 16: of this really does come from the British tradition. But
32:05
Speaker 16: this country is just a shell. It is an absolute
32:08
Speaker 16: shell of what it was. I mean, not even just
32:11
Speaker 16: three four hundred years ago, but really what it was.
32:13
Speaker 16: As Donald Trump said during World War Two, I mean,
32:15
Speaker 16: Winston Churchill is rolling in his grave frankly looking at
32:19
Speaker 16: here Starmer right now Starmar is now trying to do
32:21
Speaker 16: some mop up a business. He's trying to say, Okay,
32:24
Speaker 16: you know, maybe you can actually use our bases first
32:27
Speaker 16: actions when it comes to Iran there. But I mean,
32:29
Speaker 16: how stupid do you have to be to let your
32:31
Speaker 16: country get completely overrun with jihadis, which was tragically is
32:35
Speaker 16: increasingly what the UK has done to itself, not just
32:39
Speaker 16: these Pakistani rape gangs, also just this harrowing anecdotal footage
32:42
Speaker 16: of all these marches to the streets of London supporting
32:45
Speaker 16: Hamas and this and that. They're how dumb do you
32:47
Speaker 16: have to be to willfully subject your own count chat
32:50
Speaker 16: and then and then to try to make some moralistic
32:53
Speaker 16: points about how we'd enjoined the American strike on Oh wait, yeah,
32:57
Speaker 16: the world's number one state sponsor the very jihad that
32:59
Speaker 16: we just will lend the front door. It's just so
33:01
Speaker 16: totally perverse. Again, as an angle of fhiol I take
33:04
Speaker 16: no pride in it. But unfortunately it.
33:05
Speaker 1: Is where we are well. Absolutely, and it's very clear
33:07
Speaker 1: that all Kirstarma is doing is pandering to votes, that
33:11
Speaker 1: that's only wants in certain sections of the community. That
33:14
Speaker 1: is absolutely all that he wants. Now, look, I thought
33:17
Speaker 1: that's the Secretary of State Marco Rubio, he was very
33:20
Speaker 1: strong as well in his commentary. He's hit back at
33:23
Speaker 1: the critics of the strikes.
33:25
Speaker 13: Have a listen, let me explain to you guys, this
33:27
Speaker 13: is simple English, okay. Iran is run by lunatics, religious
33:31
Speaker 13: fanatic lunatics. They have an ambition to have nuclear weapons.
33:35
Speaker 13: They intend to develop those nuclear weapons behind a program
33:38
Speaker 13: of missiles and drones and terrorism that the world will
33:41
Speaker 13: not be able to touch them for fear of those things.
33:43
Speaker 1: And this is the weakest they've ever been. How much
33:46
Speaker 1: pressure Josh is the administration under to explain the strikes
33:50
Speaker 1: even though it is just so obvious, as Marco Rubio
33:53
Speaker 1: just said, Donald Trump keeps saying Iran would have been
33:56
Speaker 1: the one to pull the trigger first had they not intervened.
34:00
Speaker 16: So the polling overall of the American electorate is pretty split. Actually,
34:04
Speaker 16: just before you, un I started chatting Danika, the most
34:06
Speaker 16: reason Paul I saw actually had literally a dead heat
34:09
Speaker 16: fifty to fifty approved disapprove on a straight up thumbs
34:12
Speaker 16: up thumbs down. Now, Republicans overwhelmingly support this, and by
34:16
Speaker 16: the way, contrary to to what you hear from the
34:18
Speaker 16: lights of Tucker Carlson and Megan Kelly and folks like that,
34:22
Speaker 16: contrary to that, it's actually self identified macro Republicans who
34:25
Speaker 16: support the strikes at a considerably even higher clip than
34:28
Speaker 16: just normy Republicans. There So the president's base is enthusiastically
34:33
Speaker 16: entirely behind these strikes. Democrats principally are are pretty much
34:37
Speaker 16: lining up all their ducks in a row against it. There,
34:39
Speaker 16: So that leaves, as is often the case, they're the
34:43
Speaker 16: persuadable middle. So I think when you hear from administration,
34:46
Speaker 16: when when you hear from Secretary of Rubio, when you
34:47
Speaker 16: hear Secretary of Hegstath, when you hear from the Chairman
34:50
Speaker 16: of the Joint Chiefs of Staff Dan Kine, first of all,
34:54
Speaker 16: they're trying to do their jobs, right, I mean, that's
34:56
Speaker 16: that's the most important thing. They're trying to actually fulfill
34:58
Speaker 16: their task. The Secretary of State, Secretary of War, and
35:00
Speaker 16: chairman of the Joint Cheese. But if there's a political
35:03
Speaker 16: spill over there that they're really just trying to play
35:04
Speaker 16: to the middle of the electorate. The thing though, about
35:07
Speaker 16: Donald Trump, did he goes. I don't think he actually
35:08
Speaker 16: particularly cares about the polling on this issue. He's been very,
35:12
Speaker 16: very consistent on the issue of Iran for a very,
35:15
Speaker 16: very very long time. In fact, if you look at
35:18
Speaker 16: all the issues that Donald Trump has been outspoken about
35:21
Speaker 16: for decades, there, from my vantage point, there is perhaps
35:24
Speaker 16: only one issue that Donald Trump has a longer and
35:26
Speaker 16: more consistent track record on than Iran, and that's the
35:30
Speaker 16: issue of tariffs and trey, where he has been just
35:32
Speaker 16: remarkably consistent for the better part of a half century.
35:35
Speaker 16: But there's this clip circulating over the past forty eight
35:37
Speaker 16: hours or so of Donald Trump going on a talk
35:39
Speaker 16: show during the Tehran hostage crisis when the regime in
35:42
Speaker 16: its infancy then storm the embassy. The US embassy there
35:45
Speaker 16: in Tehran sees a lot of hostages for fourns or
35:48
Speaker 16: forty four days before Ronald Reagan freed them, and Trump
35:51
Speaker 16: back then nineteen eighty was essentially complaining that Jimmy Carter
35:54
Speaker 16: presidency in this old cliff. He complained that they were
35:56
Speaker 16: not using the US military to go in at and
35:59
Speaker 16: minimum try to free American hostas, and Maximan tried to
36:02
Speaker 16: overthrow this tyrannical regime in its then infancies. He's been
36:05
Speaker 16: very consistent. His very first speech down the Gilded Escalator
36:08
Speaker 16: at Trump Tower in June twenty fifteen. People remember it
36:11
Speaker 16: for his comments about the Mexicans and the border and
36:13
Speaker 16: all that there, and that's true, that was memorable part.
36:16
Speaker 16: But he also had a line in that very speech,
36:18
Speaker 16: but how Iran is a major threat, will never get
36:20
Speaker 16: a nuclear weapon. He's been remarkably consistent there. The only
36:24
Speaker 16: crazy part is that the Molas apparently didn't believe him,
36:26
Speaker 16: and boyd they found out the horror way that Donald
36:28
Speaker 16: Trump is not bluffing.
36:29
Speaker 1: Yeah, exactly. They did not suspect that this would ever come.
36:33
Speaker 1: I think you're absolutely spot on, and I really honestly
36:36
Speaker 1: think that if all goes to plan here, this could
36:38
Speaker 1: be one of the best foreign policy achievements in modern history.
36:42
Speaker 1: I mean, what Donald Trump has done here has been extraordinary.
36:45
Speaker 1: We've got to talk about New York Mayor Zora and
36:47
Speaker 1: mem Darmi on I just think this guy is a
36:51
Speaker 1: real waste of space in that role. He's added his
36:54
Speaker 1: two useless sense in he can't even say whether or
36:57
Speaker 1: not Iran is better off with or without the Eyela.
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Speaker 11: I have a little and I've also said that while
37:03
Speaker 11: I may be a young mayor, I am old enough
37:06
Speaker 11: to remember the devastating consequences of our country pursuing a
37:11
Speaker 11: war with the intent of regime change in that very
37:14
Speaker 11: same region, not that many years ago.
37:17
Speaker 1: He is dangerous. He is a typical socialist Josh. The
37:20
Speaker 1: Eyetola is responsible for the debts of hundreds of thousands
37:24
Speaker 1: of people, and this guy can't even give a straight answer.
37:30
Speaker 16: So let's not forget that Zoramdani was actually found and
37:33
Speaker 16: we owe some credit here to a normalization called memory
37:35
Speaker 16: the Middle East Middle East Media Research Institute, they actually
37:39
Speaker 16: uncovered this footage Zormamdani speaking on the very first day
37:43
Speaker 16: of Ramadan at an Iranian regime linked mosque, a mask
37:47
Speaker 16: that's actually on all of the FBI watch list because
37:50
Speaker 16: it's connected to various Iranian regime front groups. The United
37:53
Speaker 16: States or Mam Donnie chose that mosque in New York
37:56
Speaker 16: City to speak at on the very first Day of
37:58
Speaker 16: Ramadan that was literally just a week week and a
38:00
Speaker 16: half ago, give give or take. This is a guy
38:03
Speaker 16: who was the founder when he was in college up
38:06
Speaker 16: in Maine. He was the founder of his so called
38:08
Speaker 16: Students Were Justice in Palestine chapter, otherwise known as s JP.
38:12
Speaker 16: S JAP is deeply connected to Hamas and the Muslim Brotherhood.
38:16
Speaker 16: It's essentially a Muslim Brotherhood front group organization here also
38:20
Speaker 16: has some ties to the Chinese Communist Party. Ma'am, Donnie's
38:24
Speaker 16: a lunatic. Yeah, he's very glib. He's smooth talking, he's
38:27
Speaker 16: good looking, he knows how to string a sense together.
38:30
Speaker 16: He's basically Barack Obama two point zero, except he's actually
38:33
Speaker 16: substantially more dangerous. And Barack Obama was pretty dangerous, but
38:36
Speaker 16: Zormamdani's actually much more dangerous, potentially, God forbid if he
38:40
Speaker 16: gets higher than his current already pretty high perch there.
38:43
Speaker 16: Because he is the singular encapsulation of what I referred
38:46
Speaker 16: to and many others referred to as the red green alliance,
38:48
Speaker 16: of this deeply unholy alliance of convenience between the Marxists
38:52
Speaker 16: on the one hand and the Islamus on the other.
38:54
Speaker 16: He is absolutely a Marxist is a guy who has
38:56
Speaker 16: quoted Carl Marx his Communist Manifesto to each accurtant their need.
39:00
Speaker 16: He literally, you go to his Twitter feed, he's living
39:02
Speaker 16: quoting the Commis Manifesto for years. There. He also has
39:06
Speaker 16: sympathy to the Iranian regime, as you correctly know, and
39:09
Speaker 16: to various other radical Islamis factions. There a guy who
39:11
Speaker 16: couldn't condemn or or even bring himself to dis him
39:14
Speaker 16: himself from the genocidal calls to globalize the into fada.
39:18
Speaker 16: He only withdrew from endorsing that phrase under immense, immense pressure,
39:23
Speaker 16: and he did so basically halfway through his mayoral campaign.
39:26
Speaker 16: So the guy is a subversive fifth column frankly in
39:29
Speaker 16: my view, and tragically he's been elected to lead the
39:32
Speaker 16: nation's most important city. There the only silver line I
39:35
Speaker 16: have Denika is One of my favorite quotes is this
39:38
Speaker 16: notion from hl mank in the twentieth century newspaper columnists
39:41
Speaker 16: that democracies Democracy is the theory that the people know
39:45
Speaker 16: what they want to the compul and know what they want,
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Speaker 16: then they deserve to get it good and hard, and
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Speaker 16: they're getting it good and hard. In New York hopefully
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Speaker 16: they wake up sooner rather than later.
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Speaker 1: Well, look, you certainly hypees and let's not forget man
39:55
Speaker 1: Zori mm Dami was a rapper, a singer. I mean,
39:58
Speaker 1: he had a list of olda's different random jobs, and
40:00
Speaker 1: then suddenly he gets this epiphany that he wants to
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Speaker 1: become mayor and everything was meant to be free, and
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Speaker 1: suddenly he's, you know, an expert in foreign policy as
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Speaker 1: well as just extraordinary. Now, look, Donald Trump has threatened
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Speaker 1: to cut off trade with Spain, so he came out
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Speaker 1: today he accused the NATO ally of failing to meet
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Speaker 1: defense spending commitments and refusing to allow US forces to
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Speaker 1: use Spanish bases to support operations related to strikes against Iran.
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Speaker 1: I wonder if he'll make good on this, on this threat, Josh,
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Speaker 1: what impact could this have?
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Speaker 16: Well, he definitely might. Look this is this administration takes
40:36
Speaker 16: a fairly skeptical approach towards towards Western Europe. I think
40:39
Speaker 16: that's been pretty clear. We opened our conversation talking about
40:42
Speaker 16: Cure Starmer and Donald Trump's very harsh words for a
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Speaker 16: cure Starmer. He's Trump's had very harsh words when it
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Speaker 16: comes at times to Emmanuel Macrone in France as well
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Speaker 16: there and and Spain is currently led by but by
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Speaker 16: a zealous left winger, a guy who was sent who
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Speaker 16: was accused Israel of genocide there, who is not particularly
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Speaker 16: things to say about the United States and various other
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Speaker 16: Western powers in general there. So no, I think it
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Speaker 16: is absolutely not past Donald Trump to try to impose crippling,
41:08
Speaker 16: potentially terri of sanctions. Who knows. I don't think he
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Speaker 16: particularly cares. Frankly, this pain is is in NATO. Why,
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Speaker 16: Because the United States is the ultimately guarantor of NEO.
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Speaker 16: The United States is the ultimate guarantor of essentially all
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Speaker 16: of these invariably semi effectless to fall on feckless Western
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Speaker 16: transnational institutions. There, the United States is the only reason
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Speaker 16: that NATO still exists, that the Nine Nations still exists,
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Speaker 16: that all these various organizations still exists there. So that's
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Speaker 16: that's kind of besides the points. And you know, really
41:35
Speaker 16: the administration's approach towards Europe, which we saw, probably adds
41:39
Speaker 16: apex we saw with these with these two Munich Security
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Speaker 16: Conference speeches last year from the Vice President jad Evance
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Speaker 16: this year from Secretary of State Mark or Rubio, where
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Speaker 16: they both take a very skeptical approach toward towards Europe.
41:51
Speaker 16: The way to view this is that America is trying
41:53
Speaker 16: to bring Europe back to its glory. America wants Europe
41:57
Speaker 16: to be what it was in the not so distant past.
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Speaker 16: It's pretty ironic, isn't it, that, in the aftermath of
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Speaker 16: the joint US is really campaign against the Irani regime
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Speaker 16: that pretty much all the various Arab countries in the region,
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Speaker 16: Saudi Arabia, Yui, Bahrain, Kuwaits, even Katari, Iran's erstwhile ally
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Speaker 16: they all came out in support of the of the
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Speaker 16: United States and Israel, and it was the UK and
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Speaker 16: France above all that were equivocating. Germany was initiallyquivted, came
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Speaker 16: they seemed to have essentially gotten in line. But that's
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Speaker 16: a very strange state of affairs, isn't it. Right, Where
42:29
Speaker 16: there's this military campaign against this Muslim country and the
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Speaker 16: Muslim world is much more supportive than Western Europe. That's
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Speaker 16: not the way it should be there, And I think
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Speaker 16: that's ultimately really kind of deep down what's animating this
42:40
Speaker 16: standoup between the US and Spain as well.
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Speaker 1: Yeah, look, absolutely. And let's not forget I mean, Donald
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Speaker 1: Trump's pushed other countries as well well, if they'd defense
42:47
Speaker 1: spending that he was even pushing for Australia too. So look,
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Speaker 1: I'll be very interested to see what happens here. Josh
42:53
Speaker 1: hammert nice to catch up with you. Thanks very much
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Speaker 1: for joining me on the show. Still to come another day,
42:58
Speaker 1: another blow for Australia renewables only experiment. Ian Plymer is
43:03
Speaker 1: next on the latest green company to slash its workforce.
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Speaker 1: Welcome back, well. Energy Minister Chris Bowen has tried to
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Speaker 1: reassure us that he's got everything under control amid predictions
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Speaker 1: that petrol prices will soar by more than forty cents
43:25
Speaker 1: per liter in the coming days. Here, he was there
43:28
Speaker 1: is no.
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Speaker 17: Need to rush to the service station and fill up.
43:31
Speaker 17: I do understand people's concerns, but it's important that people
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Speaker 17: know we do have a good stock of petrol in
43:38
Speaker 17: reserve in Australia.
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Speaker 1: Joining me now is esteemed geologist and author professor Ian Plymer.
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Speaker 1: Ian great to see you again, so Bowen says, no, Look,
43:47
Speaker 1: it's fine, no worries, nothing to see here. So I
43:51
Speaker 1: guess we can all take a breath.
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Speaker 6: Well, I guess we have to be really worried about you,
43:58
Speaker 6: and I'm still waiting for a two hundred and seventy
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Speaker 6: five dollars. I've seen what a mess that he's made
44:03
Speaker 6: with our power system, and if he's going to make
44:05
Speaker 6: anything equivalent to that powers is the mess, then we're
44:08
Speaker 6: going to be out of fuel now. We need diesel.
44:11
Speaker 6: We need diesel more than petrol. We needed to plow,
44:14
Speaker 6: we needed to seed, we need to weed, we needed
44:16
Speaker 6: to harvest. We needed to transport food to the cities.
44:20
Speaker 6: Once the food is in the cities, we've got to
44:22
Speaker 6: transport it around using diesel. He doesn't seem to understand
44:26
Speaker 6: that this whole country runs on diesel. He's talking about petrol.
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Speaker 6: He's absolutely clueless. He's completely destroyed our energy system in
44:35
Speaker 6: this country, and he's now starting to think, well, maybe
44:39
Speaker 6: we should be destroying the PETROLLIU ministry. The only solution
44:43
Speaker 6: is what the French did in nineteen seventy three when
44:45
Speaker 6: there was a petroleum crisis, and that is to build
44:48
Speaker 6: nuclear power stations. This is why France is a nuclear
44:52
Speaker 6: power country. This is what we should be doing in
44:55
Speaker 6: this country. We should be drilling for our own oil.
44:57
Speaker 6: We should be converting coal into petroleum products, as Germany
45:02
Speaker 6: did in the Second World War, as South Africa did
45:06
Speaker 6: when they were embargos. There is the technology out there.
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Speaker 6: We are prepared for absolutely nothing in this country.
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Speaker 1: No we aren't. So just like the renewables only facade
45:17
Speaker 1: that we're on now as well, he's got no one
45:20
Speaker 1: idea about the petroleum industry. We're in really great hands
45:23
Speaker 1: and rain hands now. Look. A fascinating report in The
45:27
Speaker 1: Australian has shed light on the disturbing environmental impacts of
45:30
Speaker 1: the killing fields that are wind farm projects. Researched by
45:33
Speaker 1: Cans based conservation group Rainforest Reserves Australia has found that
45:38
Speaker 1: tens of thousands of hectares of native forest and woodland
45:41
Speaker 1: of high biodiversity value are set to be affected by
45:44
Speaker 1: more than twelve hundred proposed renewable energy projects. So we're
45:47
Speaker 1: talking forests being cleared, Mountains are being blown up and flattened,
45:51
Speaker 1: all to make way for these monstrosities, some of which
45:55
Speaker 1: are two hundred and fifty meet as tall. Of course,
45:57
Speaker 1: there's you know the damage well to birds, You've got
46:01
Speaker 1: these dead bats and bird life is also been found
46:05
Speaker 1: at the basis of these towers ian. But this is
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Speaker 1: not what the left wants you to see or know,
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Speaker 1: is it?
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Speaker 6: Well, certainly not. Why is it that the renewable industry
46:14
Speaker 6: can get away with this? Yet if I'm a farmer
46:18
Speaker 6: or a miner or trying to clear some land for
46:22
Speaker 6: a factory, that I would get fined and go to
46:25
Speaker 6: jail for doing what these renewable companies have done. Now,
46:28
Speaker 6: to make it worse, these renewable companies are owned by
46:31
Speaker 6: foreign interests. And to make it even worse, that the
46:34
Speaker 6: hardware that we need for wind and for solar comes
46:38
Speaker 6: from China. So we are taking probably the most environmentally
46:43
Speaker 6: damaging steps we've ever taken in this country. And where
46:47
Speaker 6: is the left. We hear absolutely nothing out of them
46:50
Speaker 6: about them. Where are the greens, We don't hear anything
46:53
Speaker 6: from them. So this is absolute whole scale destruction of
46:58
Speaker 6: the environment, and we hear nothing. Apparently by using Chinese
47:03
Speaker 6: solar and wind equipment that is for the greater good,
47:07
Speaker 6: and therefore we can destroy the environment. You could not
47:10
Speaker 6: do this as a farmer. Why can you do it
47:12
Speaker 6: for someone that's producing very expensive electricity for the average consumer.
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Speaker 1: Exactly, and one that is based on a risk because
47:20
Speaker 1: we don't know if it's even going to work. That's
47:22
Speaker 1: the problem. And now look one of Australia's top renewables developers,
47:25
Speaker 1: this is a Conia Energy, has cut about fifteen percent
47:29
Speaker 1: of its Australian green energy workforce as planning bottlenecks and
47:33
Speaker 1: rising costs continue to stifle investment in the sector. Ian
47:37
Speaker 1: here we go again, more job cuts.
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Speaker 6: What does this suggest, Well, it suggests that ever since
47:43
Speaker 6: the renewables fashion started, we've been told lies. We've been
47:47
Speaker 6: told that this was going to create jobs. It's been
47:49
Speaker 6: the exact opposite. And what we've done is we've lost jobs.
47:53
Speaker 6: We've lost jobs in the coal industry, we've lost jobs
47:55
Speaker 6: in the manufacturing industry. So what we're being told is
47:59
Speaker 6: the exact opposite of reality. Now we should have known this.
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Speaker 6: We've seen it happen in Germany. We've seen it happen
48:04
Speaker 6: in the US, we've seen it happen in the UK.
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Speaker 6: If you want to go renewables, you are going to
48:10
Speaker 6: lose jobs. And to prop up renewables you need gas.
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Speaker 6: Now this goes completely against the ideology which we're being told.
48:18
Speaker 6: But nevertheless we get thrown these lives all the time,
48:23
Speaker 6: and we're meant to lie down and take it. I
48:25
Speaker 6: think enough is enough.
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Speaker 1: Couldn't agree more now, Look, Australia's biggest data center operators
48:30
Speaker 1: have more than doubled their reported carbon emissions over the
48:32
Speaker 1: past five years as artificial intelligence continues to see more
48:37
Speaker 1: and more investment. Gee, don't tell Chris Bowl on that one,
48:42
Speaker 1: but is this just the reality of AI.
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Speaker 6: Well, if you think carbon emissions are harmful, then you
48:49
Speaker 6: should make these II centers nuclear. If you think they're
48:53
Speaker 6: not harmful, that it's plant food and that we're feeding
48:56
Speaker 6: the environment, then we should be emitting carbon into the atmosphere.
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Speaker 6: So for Chris Bone, it's a lose lose situation, and
49:04
Speaker 6: one day he will find that we need AI to
49:08
Speaker 6: run this country. One day we'll find that we need
49:11
Speaker 6: huge amounts of power which sea breezes and sunbeams can't
49:15
Speaker 6: give us, and we're going to have to have power
49:17
Speaker 6: with grunt. It's either going to be nuclear, or it's
49:20
Speaker 6: going to be gas, or it's going to be cold.
49:21
Speaker 6: But it's not going to be wind and it's not
49:23
Speaker 6: going to be solar. And that we know from data
49:26
Speaker 6: centers elsewhere in the world. So I think he's got
49:28
Speaker 6: to get out of the cocoon and start to get
49:31
Speaker 6: some sort of realistic energy program for Australia. Meanwhile, we
49:35
Speaker 6: wither on the vine.
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Speaker 1: Look, we can only hope that one day he might
49:39
Speaker 1: wake up and realize the sort of magical, mystical carpet
49:43
Speaker 1: ride that we're on. Ian PLYMUK, good to see you.
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Speaker 1: Thanks very much for your time, appreciate it. That's it
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Speaker 1: for me. Coming up next is News Nights, good Night,